Dinar Discussion MAY 2008

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Dinar Discussion MAY 2008

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Valerio wrote:

The Dinaradmin is doing a great job with this new pad every month. The old one wasn't even getting slow yet. I love it!
Keep up the good work.
Go Iraq, go dinar!

-- April 30, 2008 11:55 PM


Roger wrote:

Thanks for the new scratchpad, admin.

About Dinars and ISX and the progress in Iraq.

We have had a couple of years of bad news from Iraq, and now we have had about a half a year of good news, but good or bad, no movement of any significance have happened so far.

Eventually the whole thing will break lose, but as we are sitting today, there is not much difference in the economy in Iraq compared with one or two years back, it is quite a difference when it comes to the security scene, and the political landscape, the alliances have shifted and there is a shift in who is winning the war ( we do) and all that, but looking at it from a pure economic viewpoint, not much have happened.

We are getting daily news of contracts signed, new companies, new oil investments, new industry investments, big budgets, big oil revenue surplus and all that.

This will make a difference, but nothing have effectively kicked in, in any significant form.

A good indication of that is the ISX, it is moving slowly upwards, but it is not moving upwards in a dramatic form, more of a very shalow rise. This is not indicative of a country that have billions in oil revenue, and are sitting on one of the largest oil reserves in the world.

The way ISX is behaving right now is more indicative of a "normal country".

The ISX is a mirror of how much the industry is worth, and if Iraq would be in the "boom" condition that we all wish it to be, the ISX growth curve would have been raising much more rapidly.

A boom economy is when the value of the industry is shooting straight up, but as long as the ISX is lingering in the level it is now, and have not gone up significantly from the past, this is a pretty good indicator of how things are going in Iraq as we speak right now.

Good news are good, no question about that, but as usually in that part of the world, a decision not taken is good policy, so things have a tendency to be dragged on forever.

This even when the "good news" are in, it is indecision's, and non action.

Possibly this last battles with the Shiite, AlSadr clans, will be the very last of the major offensives, before all the militias, groups and different factions have come to rest.

Either way, on top political level in Iraq, it's ministries and it's spokes men, and on international level, it looks really good, and I keep hearing daily about new contracts and all that, but from that, to see a real change, that still has to materialize.

We're in a far better position now, than last year with this thing, and it is possible now to say that it is just a matter of time, but still ...nothing.

The value of the Dinar doesn't necessarily show the condition of Iraq, as it is a manipulated currency, but the movement of the stock exchange shows pretty much the actual economical condition.

If you are not speculating in stocks in Iraq, you could still just check out the ISX statistics as time goes by, and you will have a pretty day to day pulse over the Iraqi economy.

-- May 1, 2008 1:50 AM


cornishboy wrote:

New Iraqi currency transfers from London to the Central Bank of Iraq

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I wasn't sure where to place this...in the news section or speculation (please move if needed).

I found this and thought it was curious. It was in a Jordanian newspaper.

Iraq in the Arab press

Iraqi affair in Jordanian newspapers on Sunday April 27

4th paragraph down..

She says Arabs today that Royal Jordanian has succeeded last month in the completion of the tender new Iraqi currency transfers from London to the Central Bank of Iraq in Baghdad. Informed sources reported '"behind" the bid for ownership tender for the transfer of new Iraqi currency, will be declared the winner of the tender soon.

http://translate.google.com/translat...G%26as_qdr%3Dd

-- May 1, 2008 8:11 AM



cornishboy wrote:

Thursday, March 13 / Baghdad / The General Company for banking services currency transfer and achieved sixteen trips to transport currency treasury Rafidain Bank and Rasheed Bank treasury as well as the charter of civil banks and government departments.

Those trips came under (7) and the duties of public quoted company for banking services which amounted to $ (150, 949, 502, 57) dinars (Fifty-seven billion, five hundred and two million nine hundred and forty-nine thousand, one hundred and fifty Iraqi dinars) and the total amount transferred for all banks and Chambers governmental foreign currency (000, 700, $ 3) three million, seven hundred thousand dollars and the number of cars used to transport the currency (and accompanying vulnerable) (24) car
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...language_tools


-- May 1, 2008 8:16 AM





cornishboy wrote:

The good news is that neither the Jordanian airline or their airforce probably have a fleet large enough to accomodate an entire currency swap, like the one in 2003 that required, what, 27 Boeing 747's. At least they would not be able to handle a transport of that magnitude all in one fell swoop and still have planes in service at home. Maybe over a two year period though

Of course, there might be other tenders offered up for the currency transport. Royal Jordanian just happened to win this one.


Airline :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Jordanian

Airforce:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Jordanian_Air_Force

-- May 1, 2008 8:25 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I would like to get the boards opinion about a statement made by the CBI concerning the 25000 dinar note. Paraphrasing, it said the CBI has no intention to remove from circulation 25000 note.

What do you make of this? Without a doubt statements are made from inside the country that are ignored by Western news outlets. I am interested in knowing why the CBI had to make such a statement.

A statement like this may hurry my decision to open an Al-Warka account.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 11:56 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger - Thanks for the update, appreciate the post and your insights, as always. :) Good food for thought.

Cornish_boy - Interesting links and articles, thank you. :)

Rob N - I think there are a lot of holdings out there denominated in that 25000 Dinar note and the CBI is just assuring everyone holding that denomination of their currency that - no matter what happens in the near term future with any lower denoms being brought into circulation - the CBI is not removing the 25000 note from being legal tender currency and having worth.

Sara.

-- May 1, 2008 12:30 PM


Sara wrote:

Iran dumps U.S. dollar for oil trades
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's President, has called the dollar a 'worthless piece of paper.'
April 30, 2008

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran, OPEC's second-largest producer, has stopped conducting oil transactions in U.S. dollars, a top Oil Ministry official said Wednesday, in a concerted attempt to reduce reliance on Washington at a time of tension over Tehran's nuclear program and suspected involvement in Iraq.

Iran has dramatically reduced dependence on the dollar over the past year in the face of increasing U.S. pressure on its financial system and the fall in the value of the American currency.

Oil is priced in dollars on the world market, and the currency's depreciation has concerned producers because it has contributed to rising crude prices and eroded the value of their dollar reserves.

"The dollar has totally been removed from Iran's oil transactions," Oil Ministry official Hojjatollah Ghanimifard told state-run television Wednesday. "We have agreed with all of our crude oil customers to do our transactions in non-dollar currencies."

Iranian oil officials have said previously that they were shifting oil sales out of the dollar into other currencies, but Ghanimifard indicated Wednesday that all of Iran's oil transactions were now conducted in either the euro or yen.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the depreciating dollar a "worthless piece of paper" at a rare summit last year in Saudi Arabia attended by state leaders from OPEC countries.

Iran put pressure on other OPEC countries at the meeting to price oil in a basket of currencies, but it has not been able to generate support from fellow members -- many of whom, including Saudi Arabia, are staunch U.S. allies.

Iranian analysts say Tehran can withstand U.S. pressure as long as it can continue its oil and gas sales, which constitute most of the country's $80 billion in exports.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/04/30/iran.oil.ap/index.html

-- May 1, 2008 12:47 PM


Sara wrote:

Central Bank Denies Cancelling 25000 IDs Note
PUKmedia 2008/05/01

Central Bank of Iraq denied the news of cancelling the 25000 IDs local note.

An official source in the bank said “some Medias published on their websites that there is an intention to cancel the 25000 IDs note to strength the local currency. The news is incorrect and baseless.”

“Iraqi dinar value was refreshed in front of dollar in the past two years. The operation that the Central Bank carried out proves the success of the fund policy in raising the local currency value. News like this aimed to effect on the local economy situation”, the source added.

http://www.pukmedia.com/english/News/news199.htm

Hattip to Keonee

-- May 1, 2008 12:54 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Rob i seem to remember a while back talk of keeping the 25.000 note mainly four large transactions like real estate. It would be a shame to get rid of this note after all it is a work of art.

-- May 1, 2008 1:44 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Gulf States May End Dollar Pegs, Kuwait Minister Says

Gulf States May End Dollar Pegs, Kuwait Minister Says (Update4)
By Fiona MacDonald and Matthew Brown
May 1 (Bloomberg) -- Gulf states are considering dropping their pegs to the dollar after the U.S. currency's decline stoked inflation across the region, Kuwaiti Finance Minister Mustafa al- Shimali said.
``Yes, there are some'' Gulf Cooperation Council states considering dropping their pegs to the dollar, which has fallen 13 percent against the euro in the last 12 months, al-Shimali said in an interview in Kuwait late yesterday without naming the countries. ``Some countries will do what we are doing.''
Al-Shimali's comments may restoke speculation of a change in Middle East currency systems that eased after the United Arab Emirates and Qatar last month ruled out any revaluation or dropping the dollar peg in the short term. The issue will remain a key issue as long as inflation remains high.
``Inflation is rising in the Gulf to a great extent because of loose monetary policy,'' said Marios Maratheftis, head of research for Standard Chartered Plc in the Middle East in a telephone interview from Dubai. ``Tightening monetary policy can only happen if they drop their currency pegs or strengthen the currency, preferably both.''
The U.A.E., Bahrain and Qatar lowered their benchmark interest rates today by a quarter point, matching a cut by the U.S. Federal Reserve a day earlier. The move is needed to maintain the dollar pegs. Saudi Arabia is on its weekend while Oman moves its interest rates in line with the London Inter Bank Offered Rate.
Gulf Inflation
Inflation is running close to 10 percent in Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E., while Qatar's consumer prices rose 14 percent in the fourth quarter.
The Kuwaiti dinar has appreciated 7.9 percent against the dollar since the nation in May became the only Gulf Arab state to drop its peg to the U.S. currency. Contracts to buy U.A.E. dirhams in 12 months time are trading at a 2 percent premium and Saudi riyal forwards are trading at a 1.3 percent premium to the spot price, suggesting that some traders are betting that those countries will follow Kuwait in revaluing. The link to the dollar meant that imports in euros and other currencies that have strengthened against the dollar became more expensive.
The idea of dropping the peg ``has been started by other Gulf countries and they are partially going this way because the dollar has been going down for some time,'' al-Shimali said yesterday.
Forum meeting
``This news has already been in newspapers,'' al-Shimali told reporters at a meeting of the Fourth World Economic Forum in Kuwait today.
Reuters reported today that al-Shimali said he was citing newspaper reports and not expressing his own opinion when commenting to Bloomberg on the future of the Gulf dollar pegs.
When asked at the forum about Gulf states considering dropping their pegs, al-Shimali told reporters that he would not comment on behalf of Gulf states.
Officials at the Qatari, Omani and U.A.E. central banks were not immediately available. The Bahraini and Saudi central banks were closed today.
Revaluation speculation peaked in November after U.A.E. central bank Governor Sultan Bin Nasser al-Suwaidi said he was considering dropping the dirham's peg to the dollar, and a Saudi Arabia central bank official said that Gulf states may revalue their currencies together.
All the GCC states, apart from Oman, are planning to form a single Gulf currency by 2010. The group's central bank governors will meet in June in an attempt to get the project back on schedule.
``The case for currency reform is strong,'' Simon Williams, chief Middle East economist at HSBC Holdings Plc, said in a telephone interview from Dubai. ``The inflationary pressures the Gulf faces not only demand a stronger currency, they also require an independent monetary policy. The issue is not going to go away, but I don't believe that change is close.''
To contact the reporter on this story: Fiona MacDonald in Kuwait fmacdonald4@bloomberg.net; Matthew Brown in Dubai at mbrown42@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: May 1, 2008 10:21 EDT

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide

-- May 1, 2008 2:15 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq PM sends team to Iran to discuss militias
By Khalid al-Ansary and Waleed Ibrahim
May 1, 2008

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has sent a delegation to tell Iran to stop backing Shi'ite militias, officials said on Thursday, underscoring Iraq's unease over the influence of its powerful neighbor.

The delegation from Maliki's ruling United Iraqi Alliance (UIA) left for Tehran on Wednesday amid further accusations from U.S. military officials that large amounts of Iranian weapons have been found in Iraq.

"The UIA has decided to send a delegation to press the Iranian government to stop financing and supporting the armed groups," said Sami al-Askari, a senior legislator in the Shi'ite party and a close confidante of Maliki.

In London, the U.S. military commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, said "very, very significant" amounts of Iranian weapons had been found since Maliki launched an offensive against militias in late March.

Petraeus told the BBC after meeting Prime Minister Gordon Brown this included more than 1,000 mortar and artillery rounds, hundreds of rockets and dozens of amour-piercing bombs. The number found in Baghdad was even greater, said Petraeus.

Washington accuses Shi'ite Iran of arming, training and funding rogue elements of the Mehdi Army militia of anti-U.S. Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. Iran denies the charges.

"It's a very important step (to send the delegation)," U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters in Texas.

"I think that the Iranians do care about what the shape of their future relationship with Iraq will be .... Do they want to work with the government of Iraq or are they going to subvert the government of Iraq?" said Gates.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the delegation had taken questions to Tehran that needed answering.

U.S. military officials had planned to put on display some of the recently captured Iranian weapons but decided to let the Iraqis make their own case to Iran first.

Maliki, a Shi'ite himself, is having to tread a fine line between Tehran and Washington -- two bitter foes that are also at loggerheads over Iran's nuclear program.

But Maliki has also sought to show his independence.
At a news conference on Wednesday, he said: "I am not Iran's man in Iraq." And he launched his offensive in the southern city of Basra without giving the U.S. military much notice.

Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih this week described Baghdad's ties with Tehran as among the most complex it had.

"We cannot afford to have a precarious relationship that could degenerate and go back to a state of conflict that we have had in a previous era," Salih told Reuters.

"The time has come for this relationship to be put on a real sound footing, state to state."

Iran and Iraq fought an eight-year war in the 1980s in which hundreds of thousands were killed. Ties have improved since Sunni Arab strongman Saddam Hussein was ousted in the U.S.-led invasion and a Shi'ite-led government came to power in Baghdad.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4762787

-- May 1, 2008 2:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Kurdistan Region said ready to export 100,000 barrels of oil per day

Nechirvan Barzani has announced that the Kurdistan Region Government (KRG) will soon export 100,000 barrels of oil and [Iraq] oil experts warn that the Kurds should not produce more than the rate of production allocated to Iraq as a whole.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 4:01 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Maliki targets "outlaws" not political factions, says Talabani 01/05/2008 17:17:00

Baghdad (NINA)- President Jalal Talabani said that Premier Nouri al-Maliki has targeted "outlaws and not any political power as some might want it to appear." In an opening speech on the inauguration of the sixth "al-Mada" cultural week Thursday
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 4:03 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Government seeks crisis solution in Iran, says Ubaydi 01/05/2008 15:52:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Salah al-Ubaydi, spokesman for cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said that the government is seeking Iran's mediation to resolve the crisis with Sadrists, who are already negotiating with the president and parliament's speaker to solve the problem.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 4:04 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Security

Tikrit court sentences al-Qaeda-linked group leader to death

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Salah al-Din, 01 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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The Criminal Court in Tikrit on Wednesday sentenced a senior commander of an al-Qaeda-linked group to death, a Salah al-Din police source said.

“The Criminal Court handed down a death sentence on Adnan Faraj, the military commander of the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq in Salah al-Din,” a police source, who requested anonymity, told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).

The source pointed out “the ruling was based on item four of counter-terrorism law after the suspect pleaded guilty to killing an Iraqi army officer in Dhuluyia town during the summer of 2005.”

“The suspect will be also tried in a number of cases after admitting involvement in several operations which were documented by judicial authorities,” he added.

Adnan Faraj, a Dhuluyia resident, was arrested in late 2007 in Mosul while trying to travel abroad with a forged passport.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 4:05 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Strike Kills al-Qaida in Somalia Leader
May 01, 2008
Associated Press
MOGADISHU, Somalia - The U.S. military killed a man believed to be the head of al-Qaida in Somalia and 10 others in an airstrike overnight, an Islamic insurgent group said Thursday.

The U.S. military confirmed an attack on a suspected al-Qaida target but did not identify the target.

Aden Hashi Ayro was killed when the airstrike struck his house in the central Somali town of Dusamareeb, about 300 miles north of Mogadishu, said Sheik Muqtar Robow, a spokesman for the Islamic al-Shabab militia.

Another commander and seven others were also killed, Robow said. Six more people were wounded, two of whom later died, said resident Abdullahi Nor.

"Our brother martyr Aden Hashi, has received what he was looking for - death for the sake of Allah - at the hands of the United States," Robow told The Associated Press by phone.

Capt. Jamie Graybeal, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command, confirmed there was a U.S. airstrike early Thursday in the vicinity of Dusamareeb. Another U.S. military spokesman, Bob Prucha, said the attack was against a "known al-Qaida target and militia leader in Somalia." Both declined to provide further details.

But another U.S. defense official confirmed that the military launched a missile strike targeting Ayro at about 3 a.m. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

The attack comes just before U.N.-sponsored peace talks are due to begin in Djibouti on May 10.

Analysts say the strike is likely to harden extremists and make it more difficult to appeal to moderate elements in the Islamist movement, which contains many clan members, businessmen and members of the Somali Diaspora.

Iise Ali Geedi, an analyst at the Somali University, says the attacks will increase anti-American sentiment. The attack may also weaken the position of the prime minister, who wishes to bring more militant elements into the talks against the wishes of the president.

Over the past year, the U.S. military has attacked several suspected extremists in Somalia, most recently in March when the U.S. Navy fired at least one missile into a southern Somali town.

Somali government officials have said Ayro trained in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and is the head of al-Qaida's cell in Somalia.

He was a key figure in the al-Shabab movement, which aims to impose Islamic law and launches daily attacks on the shaky Somali government and their Ethiopian allies. Ayro also recently called for attacks on African peacekeepers in Somalia in a recording on an Islamic Web site.

Sheik Muhidin Mohamud Omar, who Robow described as "a top commander" in the Al-Shabab, was also killed in Thursday's attack.

"We heard a huge explosion and when we ran out of our house we saw a ball of smoke and flames coming out of the house where one of the leaders of al-Shabab Aden Hashi Ayro was staying," said local resident Nur Geele.

Another resident, Nur Farah, said, "the bodies were beyond recognition, some them cut into pieces, and those wounded have been severely burnt."

Al-Shabab is the armed wing of the Council of Islamic Courts movement. The State Department considers al-Shabab a terrorist organization.

The Council of Islamic Courts seized control of much of southern Somalia, including the capital, Mogadishu, in 2006. But troops loyal to the U.N.-backed interim Somali government and the allied Ethiopian army drove the group from power that December.

Ethiopia's archenemy, Eritrea, has offered assistance to the group, and it is re-emerging. In recent months it has briefly taken several towns, freeing prisoners and seizing weapons from government forces. The insurgents usually withdraw after a few hours but continue to target Ethiopian and Somali forces in an Iraq-style insurgency.

The United States has repeatedly accused the Islamic group of harboring international terrorists linked to al-Qaida, which is allegedly responsible for the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 200 people.

Over the past year, the U.S. military has attacked several suspected extremists in Somalia, most recently in March, when the U.S. Navy fired at least one missile into a southern town targeting Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, a Kenyan suspected in the embassy bombings.

America is concerned Somalia is a breeding ground for terrorist groups, particularly after the Islamic militants briefly gained control of the south and Osama bin Laden declared his support for them.

"As I have said before, we will pursue terrorists worldwide," Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said in Washington. "The U.S. is committed to identifying, locating, capturing and if necessary killing terrorist wherever they operate, train, plan their operations or seek safe harbor."

Fighting between government troops and the insurgents claimed thousands of lives last year and drove hundreds of thousands from their homes.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 1, 2008 4:09 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraqi dinar will see the high value of 2008‏


Iraqi dinar will see the high value of 2008
Experts Iraqi economy was likely to continue to rise in the value of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar during the year 2008, in the event of continued policy of the Central Bank of Iraq in the activation of open auctions and withdraw liquidity.
These experts agreed that the gap between the financial and political cash is the motivation behind Ascending careful of the value of the Iraqi currency, and warned of the danger of inflation on the real value of the Iraqi dinar, and the need to find radical solutions to reduce the impact. The financial and economic expert Dr Majid picture, that "the adoption of Iraq to cover the need for goods and services through imports, led to the resort monetary policy to support the Iraqi dinar exchange rate even reached 1216 dinars to the dollar."

He told the Independent News (Voices of Iraq) that "it is expected to continue to support Pacific Iraqi dinar value as long as inflation factors were continuing." He added that "the basis of the weakness of harmony between monetary and fiscal policy in general, is the absence of clear economic policy, it is trying to hand monetary policy pressure on the money supply in circulation and supporting monetary unit, while fiscal policy to encourage ongoing expenditure policy."

It was that "the presence of the clear economic policy will lead to harmony between policies and all other factors relevant economic development."
Image stressed the need for "economic policy is the promotion of productive expenditure at the expense of consumer spending being." However, he said, "regrettably the budget in 2008 to removed emphasizes the ongoing non-productive expenditure, which represents 72.7% of total spending, while investment spending 27.3%, this is in addition to the fact that most investment spending for projects and service projects Aantegeh not."

Economic Iraqi scientist Abdul Jabbar Alafi, finds that "the high value of the Iraqi currency would continue year 2008, and that this increase stems from the policy of the Central Bank, which he described as flexible policy since in 2004" saying that the explanation that "Iraq is a dollar put incorrect, and that the bank amendment because the Iraqi currency is a national symbol, and it must be achieved real value, a policy of the Central Bank managed to correct the exchange value of the dinar to the dollar, which was dominant to the price of the dinar since 91 almost, and I think it succeeded calendar policy prevailing price of the dollar over the long years, the dollar's worth a thousand Dinar soon, God willing. "

Iraqi businessman, J. Aradi, speaking l (Voices of Iraq) on the pros and cons of the policy of financial support to the Central Bank of ERA selling the dollar and the currency was withdrawn from the market by granting private banks profits estimated proportion (20-25) percent said "the Central Bank of Iraq currently supporting Iraqi currency largely through the sale and purchase of the dollar auction of hand, and the withdrawal of currency from the market by granting profits 20% of the fixed deposits which contributed to withdraw a large part of the cash from the Iraqi market."

But he pointed to the seriousness of this situation that the "banks prefer to transfer all assets of cash to the Central Bank instead diverted to the labor market and Iraqi production because profits content between 10% and 12%, which led to the suspension of the role of these banks in the domestic investment."

Aradi noted that "disruption of the investment that led to the weakness of Iraqi products and the adoption of Iraq to foreign products led to the strengthening of the currency in digital and not real," and said "the prices of goods and services despite the depreciation of the dollar against the Iraqi dinar, which calls for measures economic and financial consolidation and strengthening of local and foreign investment to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar, which measured the quantity of real goods and services obtained by the citizen and not a numerical value of the currency and curb inflation. " Commenting Iraqi economic thinker Dr. Ismail Obeid that the warning of increasing interest rates, which leads to lack of investment, considering that this misguided policy action at all, pointing out that raising the price leads to the result of falling into the so-called Bfaj liquidity, which is the way of risk economically.

He added: "We need a constitutional amendment, so it can build an economy subject to development without a clear and transparent laws determine the course of economic changes, and can only deal with inflation dismissed commodities markets, or increase the supply of goods produced, but that we address inflation through trap this means stopping liquidity increased production capacities and foreign investment, which is also affected."

He said that "the lesson is not strongly Iraqi dinar officially, but strength against other currencies" noting that it is not "only to find the so-called Silhouette prices that presupposes the existence of an information base on imported goods as a kind of border prices and compares them once domestic prices."

Economic researcher Hossam Acommok sent from the anticipated decrease the value of the dollar against the Iraqi currency, but it explained to (vote for Iraq) that this reduction "will be the well-being of the Iraqi citizen, contrary to what was expected, due to increased inflation rate derived from the great imbalance in the economic structure of Iraq.
The lack of coordination between sectors of the government and the Central Bank in its policies, which has made great sacrifices in order to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar, but it failed to achieve tangible results because of indiscriminate actions contradict one another." He added Acommok "at the time the withdrawal of the Central Bank liquidity despite our reservations on the measure, rose Oil Ministry prices of oil derivatives by reached (2150) double what it was before 2003 and put forward this two hundred billion dollars rising inflation."
He concluded his speech by saying "what the monetary policy in Iraq is good, but it is inconsistent with the reality of the situation is correct structure of the Iraqi economy to serve the Iraqi people who have not benefited from reduced practically the dollar."

The Minister of Finance, the Iraqi statement said Zubaidi Jabr told media recently that the Iraqi dinar today much better than some global currency, because behind large amounts of gold and hard currency, noting that the proposal to delete the three zeroes of the Iraqi currency after assuming office in the Ministry of the Week and presentation this proposal to officials in the monetary policy of the Central Bank. He said that the Central Bank at the time was reluctant to accept this idea, but it became a strong dinar, the idea will be discussed by the Central Bank, and that there is a positive atmosphere to the idea.

For his part, the bank denied the existence of such intentions currently, and will remain current currency is adopted in local dealings, but in the faith of all coins withdrawn from circulation and replaced but the same categories of paper and include categories of (25,50,100) dinars.
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-- May 1, 2008 4:12 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Roger,

I read your post. You seem a bit frustrated. It's understandable. Just don't lose hope! I had a thought about what might happen if the dinar suddenly took off. I think it might spiral out of control, upwards. The world is looking for somewhere to park its money, and stop it from declining in value. I think a lot of charlatans would spring up with bogus investment opportunities sort of like the Nigerian boiler room scams, urging people not to miss out. I think the currency may go high if a mania (bubble) occurs, when everyone turns to Iraq as a safe haven for their cash, even with the genuine investment opportunities. So, getting in now while the costs are relatively low, and cashing out when it reaches a high that makes us feel uncomfortable in case the bubble bursts, could be a strategy. Everyone has their threshold - 1 dinar = $0.10, $1, $3, $5, more?

BritishKnite.

-- May 1, 2008 4:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Israeli forces kill Islamic Jihad chief, sources say
April 30, 2008

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- One person was killed and three were wounded Wednesday in an Israeli airstrike targeting a metal shop in Rafah, according to Palestinian security and medical sources.

Israel Defense Forces confirmed the airstrike.

The person killed was the deputy commander of the Islamic Jihad military wing, according to the Palestinian sources, who said he also served as a school headmaster at a United Nations Relief and Works Agency school.

UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunnes said he could not immediately confirm that the person was employed by the United Nations.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/30/gaza.violence/index.html

-- May 1, 2008 5:14 PM


Sara wrote:

About that Presidential race.. (since it affects our Dinar investment who is elected)..
It looks like Hillary has ample reason to remain in the race..
The rise and fall of circumstances - including Jeremiah Wright and how those" clinging to God and guns" in Penn and Ohio - (and voting that way) are interesting to note.

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CNN Poll: Obama losing support
May 1, 2008
A new CNN poll shows Obama losing ground.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new national poll suggests the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination between Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is a virtual tie.

Forty-six percent (46%) of registered Democratic voters questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday support Obama as their party’s nominee and 45 percent (45%) back Clinton, a statistical dead heat when taking into account the poll’s 4.5 percent sampling error on that specific question.

In mid-March, Obama had a 52 percent to 45 percent edge over Clinton, but his support has dropped six points while she has not gained any ground,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. He adds that “six percent now volunteer that they want neither one to be the nominee; no Democrats in the March poll felt that way.”

So why is Obama losing support?

Obama has lost his edge. Is it because of the controversy over his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright? While most Democrats have an unfavorable opinion of Wright, only 19 percent say Wright's statements have made them less favorable to Obama. More than two thirds say they've had no effect at all,” says CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider.

“The bigger problem appears to be Obama's string of losses to Clinton in big states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. Those losses have not driven up Clinton's support. But they may have created doubts about Obama's ability to win,” says Schneider.

But the poll suggests that Wright certainly doesn't help the Illinois senator.

Among all Americans, Wright gets a 59 percent unfavorable rating; only 9 percent of the public has a favorable view and a third are unfamiliar with him. Among Democrats, the figures are virtually the same,” says Holland.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/01/cnn-poll-obama-losing-support/

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Of note also is the Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll for today... since it says that there has been a TEN POINT change away from Obama to Hillary since the Wright press conference:

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the Wright impact is especially evident. Clinton now has a statistically insignificant two-point edge over Obama, 46% to 44%. However, that represents a ten-point swing since Wright’s press conference. Before Pastor Wright appeared at the National Press Club, Obama led Clinton by eight points (see recent Democratic Nomination results).

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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Thursday, May 01, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that Barack Obama’s former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, has had a significant impact on the race for the White House. The news is not good for Obama.

In general election polling John McCain now attracts 46% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 43%. Just before Wright had his press conference on Monday, McCain and Obama were even. A week ago, Obama had a two-point edge. McCain is now tied with Hillary Clinton at 44%. A week ago, McCain had a two-point edge over the former First Lady.

Those figures mean that Clinton now outperforms Obama by three points. A week ago, Obama outperformed Clinton by four. New polling in New Hampshire shows that Clinton has gained ground on McCain in the Granite State while Obama is heading in the opposite direction. That poll also found significant voter concerns about Obama and his former Pastor.

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the Wright impact is especially evident. Clinton now has a statistically insignificant two-point edge over Obama, 46% to 44%. However, that represents a ten-point swing since Wright’s press conference. Before Pastor Wright appeared at the National Press Club, Obama led Clinton by eight points (see recent Democratic Nomination results).

Among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 51% and unfavorably by 45%. (see recent daily favorable ratings). Obama is now viewed favorably by 49% and unfavorably by 48%. For Clinton, the reviews are 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable. At noon Eastern today, Rasmussen Reports will release the President's Job Approval ratings for April.

The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows Democrats leading in states with 200 Electoral Votes. The GOP has the advantage in states with 189.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

-- May 1, 2008 6:25 PM


Sara wrote:

About that Al-Qaeda leader and the other senior terrorist who had killed so many - including foreign aid workers:

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US air strike kills Al-Qaeda leader in Somalia: officials
by Mustafa Haji Abdinur
Thu May 1, 2008

MOGADISHU (AFP) - A US air strike in Somalia killed at least 12 people on Thursday, including a man said to be Al-Qaeda's military leader in the war-torn country, Ethiopian officials and rebels said.

The militant leader was named as Moalim Aden Hashi Ayro who trained with Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and had been linked to the deaths of foreign aid workers in Somalia. He had been a target of a US air strike in 2007.

Ayro was military leader of the Shabab, a group on the US government's terrorist list. Another senior Islamist was among the dead, the militant group said.

Shabab spokesman Sheikh Mukhtar Robow said Ayro and another senior Islamist, Sheikh Muhyadin Omar, were among the dead from the air strike.

Ayro is said to have overseen the desecration of an Italian cemetery in Mogadishu, exhuming and throwing into the sea the remains of hundreds of corpses. He reportedly ordered a makeshift mosque erected there.

In addition to leading operations against Somali and Ethiopian troops and African Union peacekeepers, Ayro has also been linked to the murders of foreign aid workers in Somalia.

Since the Islamists were ousted from Mogadishu in early 2007, they have carried out attacks against government officials, Ethiopian forces backing the Somali government and African Union peacekeepers.

Western intelligence has accused Somali Islamists of having links to Al-Qaeda, which is believed to want to use war-shattered Somalia as a haven.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080501/ts_afp/somaliaunrestusattacks

-- May 1, 2008 6:48 PM


Sara wrote:

A little interesting perspective for you to ponder in light of the sudden TEN POINT move in the opinion polls lately that I just documented (above):

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Obama's Fantastic Flip Flop Won't Help
By Michael J. Gaynor
MichNews.com
Apr 30, 2008

People are finding out that Rev. Wright privately prayed with Obama before Obama publicly announced his presidential campaign, but was "disinvited" from appearing on stage because his sermons were "rough."


Fittingly, rookie United States Senator and presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. used a tactic of Senator John Kerry, the man who gave him a national stage in 2004 by inviting him, then a state senator, to give the keynote address at the Democrat national convention: flip flopping.

After the national media called attention to some of the incendiary comments of Rev. Jeremiah A. "God damn America" Wright, Jr. and Obama took a hit in the polls, Obama chose to deal with the political problem posed by his twenty-year relationship with Rev. Wright by taking about race in America, disassociating himself from Rev. Wright's incendiary statements but refusing to "disown" Rev. Wright, equating that with disowning the Black community or his white grandmother.

In that speech, Obama threw his white grandmother under the bus, telling the world that she had made him cringe by saying that she was concerned about her physical safety when she encountered black men whom she did not know.

Obama did not explain WHY he equated that private grandmother-grandson confidence with Rev. Wright's incendiary statements from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois, including his call for God to damn America, his claim that America invented the AIDS virus to destroy black people, his claim that the terrorist attack on America on September 11, 2001 was explainable as "the chickens coming home to roost and his claim that America is using drugs to incarcerate blacks.

Obama was NOT willing to throw Rev. Wright under the bus that night.

On the morning of April 29, 2008, however, Obama flip flopped bigtime and denounced Rev. Wright, as a matter of political necessity.

Rev. Wright had been on his own campaign explaining himself, beginning with a very friendly interview by Bill Moyers broadcast on April 25, 2008.

During that interview Rev. Wright unambiguously asserted that to the extent Obama had publicly distanced himself from Rev. Wright, he had done so for political purposes, because he is a politician.

Stated otherwise, Rev. Wright essentially said Obama really was with him on the same page and publicly pretending otherwise on the political stage.

Obama did not respond.

Last weekend Rev. Wright addressed an NAACP meeting in Detroit, defending himself

Obama did not respond.

On Monday morning, April 28, 2008, Rev. Wright answered questions before the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.. and received the media's full attention. He explained that the United States is capable of anything, including inventing the AIDS virus to exterminate blacks, reiterated that Obama was a politician who had publicly distanced himself from Rev. Wright to placate the public.

That night Obama responded, mildly.

The next day, however, Obama angrily condemned Rev. Wright.

Rev. Wright had not said anything new on his current "tour" or anything public since Obama's mild response, so Obama'a anger the next morning seemed to be attributable to the grievous political damage to him that resulted from much greater public attention being paid to the same old Rev. Wright.

To be sure, Obama did NOT own up to flip flopping.

Instead he said that Rev. Wright is not the same man he met twenty years ago.

But Rev. Wright's religious and political views did not change significantly over that score of years.

Of course, it was politically necessary for Obama to finally did, but now Obama has two more problems: (1) if he needed twenty years to realize what sort of man the pastor who brought him to Christ, performed his wedding ceremony, baptized his two daughters and gave the sermon from which Obama took the title of his second book (The Audacity of Hope, he's much too oblivious to be President of the United States; and (2) since Obama is generally regarded as very intelligent and perceptive, people are going to conclude that he joined Rev. Wright's church for political advantage, stayed quiet about Rev. Wright's incendiary statement to avoid offending Rev. Wright and finally broke with Rev. Wright for political purposes.

Bottom line: Obama is not a "new" politician who transcends race, but a typical politician who put opportunism before principle and has been the net beneficiary of both race and gender in his race with Hillary Rodham Clinton for the 2008 Democrat presidential nomination, as 1984 Democrat vice presidential nominee Geraldine A. Ferraro honestly said (for which she promptly was vilified by outraged Obamaites who pretend otherwise).

Pundit Dick Morris, (defending Obama):

"...if Wright has come to be the poster child for what America fears in a black public figure, he gives Obama an opportunity to be the opposite."

"By playing off Wright, by attacking his views in depth and detail, Obama can define himself as the un-Wright, reassuring Americans and carving out his identity in opposition to the reverend’s rantings."

The big problems with that analysis are that it presumes a clean slate and if and as Obama does what Mr. Morris suggests, it will become more and more obvious to more and more people that he's doing it as a typical political opportunist who finally HAD to do it.

Mr. Morris: "The key to surviving the Wright challenge does not lie in the history of Obama’s 20-year involvement with his church. That story is a quagmire from which he will have difficulty extricating himself. The answer is, rather, to speak out in the here and now against Wright’s weekend comments in Washington and, thereby, tell us who he is and in what he believes."

That would be true if the Wright challenge was survivable; it's not. People are finding out that Rev. Wright privately prayed with Obama before Obama publicly announced his presidential campaign, but was "disinvited" from appearing on stage because his sermons were "rough."

People will realize that they were fooled and not be fooled again.

Earlier Obama appeared to be a stronger general election candidate than Hillary.

Now the reverse is true, thanks to the national focus on the long-term Obama-Rev. Wright relationship and Obama being caught on tape disdaining Americans who believe in God and exercise their Second Amendment rights as bitter people who "cling" to "religion" and "guns" because they don't have more money.

Mr. Morris: "If Obama continued to base his defense on history, he [would] just wade into deeper trouble. The 'I wasn’t there; I didn’t hear him' defense just invites journalists to interview thousands of members of the congregation to find one who sat next to Obama during one of Wright’s racist and anti-American sermons."

That defense is not comforting to voters either. If the Obamas never learned that there pastor was asking God to damn America and saying other hateful things, how disconnected were they?

Mr. Morris: "Nor will Obama solve his Wright problem by subtly distancing himself from his pastor and condemning his views, in general, as 'offensive' or 'not representative of my campaign.' Rather, he needs to seize the opportunity Wright presents and rebut the pastor’s views, point by point — as he began to do Tuesday — and, in the process, define himself and his candidacy. He needs to rebut all of the spurious points Wright raised in his now-famous 'chickens coming home to roost' sermon and speak up for America, our record and our values. He needs to explain why we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki — to save millions of American and Japanese lives, which would have been lost in an invasion. He should defend our support of Israel and take issue with Wright’s characterization of our backing for its efforts to protect itself as 'terrorism.' He needs to speak out about America’s moral role in the world and differ sharply and publicly with Wright’s worldview. By playing off Wright, he can recapture his identity as the personification of white hopes for a color-blind politics rather than white fears of anti-American and anti-white public figures."

Now it would be too little, and much too late.

It's obvious that such laudable white hopes were misplaced when placed in Obama.

The Obama myth has been exploded.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20151.shtml

-- May 1, 2008 8:38 PM


Sara wrote:

These "Ten Simple Truths About Oil" show us EXACTLY why our investment in the Iraqi Dinar is 'spot on' a great investment.. (the US, as well as the rest of the world, will continue to need the Iraqi oil).
Well worth reading. :)

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Ten Simple Truths About Oil
By Alan Caruba
MichNews.com
Apr 30, 2008

Having written about the energy industry and issues now for a long time, I hope I can be forgiven for being enraged by the comments by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) in response to President Bush’s press conference Tuesday morning. There is simply no way to describe them other than false.

The Democrat Party has long made “Big Oil” their favorite punching bag, confident that the public has no idea what influences the price and supply of oil. Saying anything favorable to Big Oil is immediately deemed evidence that one is in their pay and whatever facts are offered are therefore invalid.

There are, however, some simple truths about Big Oil that cannot and should not be ignored. To do so leaves everyone at the mercy of energy policies that have created the situation in which the United States finds itself today.

Fact #1. The combined ownership of oil reserves by the independent, investor-owned oil companies such as ExxonMobil, Conoco-Phillips, BP, Chevron and others is barely 4% of the total known oil reserves in the world. By itself, ExxonMobil’s share is 1.08%.

Fact #2. Oil is a global commodity sold on mercantile exchanges for whatever price it can command. Speculation in oil prices is the primary reason they have been driven to utterly insane costs per barrel. It has nothing to do with actual supply and demand.

Fact #3. No nation on Earth is or can be “energy independent.” The geopolitics of oil is complex, but as nations such as China and India have seen their economies grow, their need for oil grows with it and thus they compete with long established industrialized nations for existing oil supplies. This competition has an impact on prices.

Fact #4. The OPEC nations, those in the Middle East and including Venezuela, control 77% of the world’s known oil reserves. Like Russia and Mexico, where the oil industry is controlled by the state, it is generally poorly managed. Several Big Oil companies that were induced to undertake exploration and development in Russia and Venezuela actually had their assets nationalized or stolen at prices well below their investment and value.

Fact #5. Energy is the master resource. All nations with any hope of growing their economies require it, mostly in the form of electricity, but also for oil’s role in transportation. The failure to have a national long-range energy policy that is based in reality can severely impact energy prices.

Fact #6. The United States has, for years, pursued an energy policy based on environmental myths such as “biofuels” in which corn is turned into ethanol to reduce the import of oil, but it costs as much to produce ethanol as to refine oil and it provides less mileage per gallon, thus negating any reason for this additive. Likewise, suggesting that wind or solar energy can generate anything more than its current 1% of the nation’s electricity needs ignores their unreliability and the fact they are heavily subsidized, a form of hidden consumer tax.

Fact #7. It costs billions to explore, discover, extract and transport oil. It takes lots of lead-time as well. The United States Congress has, for decades, refused to permit the extraction of vast oil reserves in ANWR despite the fact it would have little or no impact on the Alaskan wildlife reserve. In addition, Congress has declared 85% percent of the nation’s coastal, offshore areas off-limits to any exploration for oil or natural gas.

Fact #8. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, under the mandate of Congress, requires Big Oil to refine oil into some seventeen different formulations in the name of clean air. With three grades of gasoline, that means that refiners must produce some 45 different blends. The quality of air in America is excellent, but the cost of gasoline at the pump continues to rise as the result of these mandates.

Fact #9. America imports two-thirds of the oil it uses. All of its transportation runs on oil. The population continues to grow. Failure to encourage the construction of a single new refinery since the 1970s puts a further strain on the ability of Big Oil to provide the nation’s oil and diesel fuel needs.

Fact #10. Democrats continue to demand that Big Oil’s profits be confiscated in some fashion and some of the inducements offered to explore for more oil be ended. Because the costs of exploration, extraction, refining, and transporting of oil represents billions, the actual profit margin of a company like ExxonMobil is about 10%, well below what industries such as pharmaceuticals and banking enjoy.

For these and many other reasons, Americans are being impoverished at the gas pump because Congress has dithered and failed in one of its most important responsibilities.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20153.shtml

-- May 1, 2008 8:59 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq - Say good bye to US funding

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq

WASHINGTON - A Senate panel has agreed unanimously to block the Defense Department from funding Iraq reconstruction projects worth more than $2 million and to begin to force Baghdad to cover the costs of training and equipping its security forces.

Democrats and many Republicans say it is unfair that Iraq is looking at pulling in as much as $70 billion in oil revenues this year while Americans grapple with soaring fuel prices at the pump.

-- May 1, 2008 9:16 PM


Roger wrote:

BritishKnite,

Oh yes I am frustrated, no doubt on that point, but I have been pretty frustrated for about two and a half years now, so nothing new on that front.

By holding out this long at least I can show, that despite my frustration I am ready for the long haul, and have practicing it, since day one in this game. At the time I didn't know it, but thought this would be a quick affair, but as realities set it, things changed, I have much more understanding of why it is taking this long, and even though I don't agree with it, or dislike it or wish for other economical solutions in Iraq, it will after all be a long haul experience.

I am very frustrated of this endless slow go, slower than watching paint dry, but have come to grips with the pace of thing over there.

There is news coverage, that will try to zoom in on blood and gore, then there is a US "official" version, then there is an Iraq "official" version.

Discarding all the MSM news related to Iraq, and concentrating only on the US and Iraqi "official" version, you feel better about the enterprise. However, the "official" version is also there to sell Iraq, as a success.

I can buy that, but the real status of that country is very well mirrored in their own economics. The "official" news are giving all kinds of good and uplifting news, in all kind o areas of life in Iraq, and that is the kind of news that we rather see.

The reality though, is despite all the good news, nothing significantly has moved yet.

I am bringing this point up especially to point out that the good news that we want to hear, will not in itself do any good, unless they are acted upon.

When it comes to act upon things in Iraq, it is a different story.

From the people I have been in contact with over there, it seems like a decision not made is good policy. It's not only me, that are frustrated with the slow progress. It's probably a long line of US representatives from the President of the US, to the US ambassador to Iraq, to the attaches, to technical support teams, to organizers, to....you name it.....

What I really wanted to point out is that we all like good news, that is what the Iraqis need, the US needs, the troops being there, and even us as investors. I don't want to bring down the "good news" trend, because this is a good trend.

I merely wanted to open the eyes for the fact that "good news" is what we are getting at this point in time, but we are not getting any movement in any significant form. So far, not a big hill of beans, despite the fact that this insignificant hill of beans are praised very much on "official" channels.

So from feeling good about Iraq, to Iraq's actual economical standing in present time, is two worlds.

The bla bla bulletins doesn't mean much, it will make us feel good, but the real barometer, or thermometer if you wish of Iraq's economical situation is seen very much in the value of Iraq's industry. And a straight index of that, is the graph that shows the daily trading.

If it is not highly valued, it will not bring a good price.

At the peak of the insurgency, the index fall to it's bottom level, and I had the idea that ok, now everything will kick in, they have had years of planning, and as soon as the fighting is over, the bulldozer's and excavators will be busy.

The ISX bottomed out pretty much just where I bought most of my stocks, but then the recovery was abysmal. It is a lingering up and down trend, with a slight increase overall, but any significant rise, it is not.

So despite all the good news, the recovery have not even started yet.

It will, but as no decision is a good decision over there, things will take some time before it is into what we can call (and are awaiting for) a boom economy.

I'm sure this year will be a good year for us, but have given up hope to see Iraq come into it's boom condition for this year. Face it, almost the half of the year have passed and not much have happened up until now, so in the last months of the year, it will most probably go a bit better, and that's about it, but no Iraqi wonder boom economy ...sorry I just don't believe that is possible.

The future of the Dinar value will also go hand in hand with the Iraqi economy.

cornishboy,

CBI is up to something.

RobN,

Fun article, AlSad'r wants to have Iran as a mediator, in his affairs with the Iraq government. I am sure he wants Iran to decide, to bring it up in some sort of court, and call it "international" and I am sure he wants all jurors to be Islamic conservatives.

There's a lot of things that AlSadr wants, too bad he doesn't realise that ..... he IS the problem.

Sara,

How does it look if we were to vote right now, would it be Clinton vs McCain??? ...Obama on the slipping and sliding???


-- May 2, 2008 1:59 AM


Roger wrote:

CornishBoy,

I have been looking at it, and this may not mean more than just a reprint of currency, paper currency don't hold up, and have to repeatedly be replaced.

What makes me think that is the small (well it is a big shipment, but still) amount of currency compared with the existing currency.

If this as to be a prelude to a zero lop action, this is far too small of an operation, becuase ALL the bills in circulation have to be replaced in that case, you can not choose to stay with overlapping currency, because the value of all bills have to follow.

So lets say that you will do a 1000 to 1 zero lop for example. You don't get away with printing 1000 times less currency, just because the currency changes value. You must for each and every piece that is out there, replace it with something that is a new substitute.

If they withdrew the coins, and have a lot of curency denominations under the value of 1000 Dinars, they will have a problem, and that's exactly what they have. If they replace the currency with a 1000 to 1 unit, well come in with a 500 Dinar note and ask for something in return and they wont have it. -"Here's a 0.5 Dinar note....".

If they do a 1000 to 1 zero lop then they need to fill the void from the new 1 Dinar note, and the fractions thereof.

Otherwise the Iraqi man will find himself with a Dinar that is worth about a Dollar, and have no change.

Paper money in circulatin don't last too long, and to me this seems like just another infusion of newly printed Dinars of the NID.

-- May 2, 2008 3:39 AM


Roger wrote:

We have about a 10 year turnaround on our paper money , and seldom do we see older than that (coins excepted).

This despite the fact that we live in an almost cashless society, we use cards, we do online banking, we order stuff and have it sent home, and we pay the bills for it, we fuel and we do all kinds of stuff without touching physical currency.

Iraq must have a much much higer wear and tear on their currency than we have. They are a cash society, they have very little banking, and very litte credit cards, and have to haul around that bunch of paper for everything they do. Once that piece of paper have hit the streets, it will be repeatedly folded and unfolded, counted and restacked over and over.

I would say that the lifespan of a NID in Iraq is compared with the US, very low, and the replacement of currency in Iraq is in high demand.

-- May 2, 2008 3:48 AM


cornishboy wrote:

thankyou four your view roger.

-- May 2, 2008 12:47 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger - You asked me my opinion concerning the Presidential election and IF WE WERE TO VOTE RIGHT NOW.. how it would look when you said, "How does it look if we were to vote right now, would it be Clinton vs McCain??? ...Obama on the slipping and sliding???" (end quote)

The statistics I quoted say that if we were only dealing with the popular vote right now then McCain would win the Whitehouse against Obama who has the greater portion of the nationwide general popular vote.

Among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 51% and unfavorably by 45%. (see recent daily favorable ratings). Obama is now viewed favorably by 49% and unfavorably by 48%. For Clinton, the reviews are 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable. The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows Democrats leading in states with 200 Electoral Votes. The GOP has the advantage in states with 189.

So McCain would win the greatest vote of the general populace and win the Whitehouse today according to this poll. Next in popular vote is Obama, so if there were an election today and Obama were running against him, McCain would squeak by a win against Obama. If it was Hillary in opposition to McCain for the Whitehouse, the lead for McCain is even larger, and note she has a 54% unfavorable review from the general public. So the stronger candidate appears to be Obama for the general election by this polling data.

But that is the data for nationwide voting of all people, not the voting within the party as to who should be the candidate for the Democrats - Hillary or Obama. And that is the race they are now working on. In that race, from the polling numbers, we saw that Obama's ten point drop has proven he has lost a lot of support among his fellow Democrats, but this does not sew up the Democrat nomination for Hillary, in spite of how it looks. The two candidates are truly neck and neck for the Dem popular vote for the Democrat candidacy. I pointed out before concerning the Democrat nomination vote that this appears to be going NOT to the popular vote, but to the superdelegates to decide. So this means that even though Hillary is more popular among Democrat voters, she may not end up with the nomination. This was the very thing the Democrats railed against as being "selected not elected" when it went to the electoral college with the vote concerning President Bush. Now they get to wear the shoe on their own foot.. and look the part of hypocrites to their own people who believed in them when they said it was "wrong" to "select not elect" a leader. They are about to do the same thing..

Many say Obama will still win in such a scenerio because he has more superdelegates, even if he is not the most popular among the Democrat people. This is because he looks better in a matchup against McCain as those statistics say, so the superdelegates will want the stronger candidate against McCain to win the nomination process, not just the most popular one in their party. How the Democrat nomination process will finish - for Hillary or McCain - I just don't know.

But whichever of the two faces off against McCain will not win, that I do know (and the polling data suggests). You can see the arguments which will prevail against Obama if Obama wins the nomination all over the press.. and you can also see the way it will go if Hillary wins the nomination. Note again that the Rasmussen poll said:

Among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 51% and unfavorably by 45%. (see recent daily favorable ratings). Obama is now viewed favorably by 49% and unfavorably by 48%. For Clinton, the reviews are 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable.

Hillary already has more than half unfavorable toward her among voters nationwide, and Obama is behind McCain in the nationwide vote as well. Since it is that vote which determines the Whitehouse, it would be squeaky, but McCain would win the Whitehouse if the election were called and people voted the way they feel today, no matter which of the two Democrats McCain faced off against.

Again, circumstances will play a large role in who gets elected. No one predicted the debacle which has just happened to the Obama campaign due to his pastor Wright and his comments and views reflecting back on Obama. But because God is behind the circumstances, it will happen that the public will be moved by their faculty of reason (in spite of a pro-Dem press) to the point where people will vote in large enough numbers for McCain to be in. Simply because, of course, God's will prevails in the end over the machinations (and pouring of money into campaigns) of men. What we are seeing now is just a prelude to what is to come.

I posted an article (above) which said that the VOTING public won't be fooled again. Remember that those who vote are more keen on politics and follow things more closely than those who do not have much to do with politics or voting. I suggest that the assessment that the public who votes won't be fooled and taken in again is correct and as time goes by we will see a further strengthening of McCain against Obama, (and if it is Hillary, she is already facing an uphill battle since 54% see her unfavorably).

While it is not quite a cakewalk or shoe-in for the Whitehouse for McCain, he is going to be seen as the only viable candidate to vote for in the end analysis, and bashing his age or trying to equate him unfavorably to President Bush is not likely to fly as a strong negative in comparison to electing a man who is racist, anti-patriotic, a disloyal flip-flopper, untried politically or militarily during a time when the country is at war, and a friend of a known and convicted domestic terrorist. The "God and Gun clinging" and VOTING American public do have pretty fair powers of recall, and their memories tend to be married to a shred of common sense.. in spite of the fact that many of them intereact with the MSM and follow its biases far too closely.

Sara.

-- May 2, 2008 1:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq presents proof of Iranian meddling: official
By Khalid al-Ansary
May 2, 2008

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - An Iraqi delegation in Iran has confronted Iranian security officials with evidence that Tehran is providing support for Shi'ite militias battling Iraqi government forces, an Iraqi official said on Friday.

"They presented a list of names, training camps and cells linked to Iran," Haidar al-Ibadi, a member of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Dawa party, told Reuters.

"The Iranians did not confess or admit anything. They claim they are not intervening in Iraq and they feel they are being unfairly blamed for everything going on Iraq," he said of the talks, which took place on Thursday.

Ibadi said he had been in contact with the delegation.

Washington has long accused Tehran of backing Shi'ite militias, particularly fiery cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army, providing them with weapons, funding and training. It has displayed some of the weapons, including rockets and mortars.

The Shi'ite-led Iraqi government, however, has generally been more restrained in its criticism of its Shi'ite majority neighbor, which denies the charges and says it supports the government.

Maliki launched a crackdown on the Mehdi Army in the southern oil hub of Basra in late March, provoking a furious response by the militia in southern Iraq and Baghdad, including relentless volleys of Iranian-made rockets against the Green Zone government and diplomatic compound in the capital.

The U.S. military said this week that "very, very significant" amounts of Iranian weaponry had been found in Basra and Baghdad during the offensive. Some of those arms were made in 2008, a senior U.S. military official said on Friday.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there had been a "sea change" in Baghdad's view of Iranian activity in Iraq since the discovery of the weapons.

"Basra changed it for the Iraqis. I'm not sure they believed it before. But they went to Basra and saw it first hand," he said.

Maliki's ruling United Iraqi Alliance, a coalition of Shi'ite Islamist parties, sent the delegation to Tehran to tell Iranian officials to stop backing the militias.

Ibadi said the delegation had presented evidence showing that Mehdi Army leaders in Basra had escaped to Iran to avoid the assault by government troops.

"The delegation also carried evidence of the smuggling of weapons and training of individuals in Iran to enter later into Iraq," he said.

The senior U.S. military official said the delegation had taken with them photographs of the recently seized weapons with markings showing they originated in Iran, as well as testimony from detained militants who had received Iranian training.

In the talks, the delegation stressed Iran should have contacts only with the Iraqi government and not with other groups, Ibadi said.

"The Iranian side confirmed their support for the Iraqi government and the political process in Iraq and their readiness to ... help the government control outlaws," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4772894

-- May 2, 2008 2:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger - It now looks like Obama is being damaged quite badly as today's gallup poll says McCain is up 6 points over Obama.. and Hillary now leads Obama in the popular vote of the DNC nomination process:

===

Gallup Daily: McCain Moves to 6-Point Lead Over Obama
May 2, 2008
Clinton 48%, Obama 46% in national Democratic nomination preferences

PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain has moved to a six percentage point, 48% to 42%, lead over Barack Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of the general election, while he edges out Hillary Clinton by only one point, 46% to 45%.

This is according to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from April 27-May 1 with 4,381 national registered voters.

Although both Clinton and Obama have lost ground to McCain over the past week, the current results may be particularly troubling for Obama in trying to combat Clinton's assertion to superdelegates that she would be the more electable of the two candidates in November.

The current six-point margin for McCain over Obama is the largest lead McCain has had over either candidate since Gallup began tracking general election preferences in early March. The gap between Obama and Clinton's percentage of the vote when both are pitted against McCain is also the largest since the general election tracking began.

The Nomination

Today's results from the Gallup Poll Daily tracking of the Democratic race, based on interviews conducted April 29-May 1, mark the ninth straight day that Clinton and Obama have been statistically tied in the preferences of national Democratic voters. With 48% of Democrats nationwide backing Clinton for the presidential nomination and 46% favoring Obama, neither candidate can currently claim superiority in popular Democratic support. -- Lydia Saad

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106966/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Moves-Point-Lead-Over-Obama.aspx

-- May 2, 2008 2:48 PM


Sara wrote:

I just don't think they are going to put one by the American public on this one, Roger.
QUOTE:

Fifty-six percent (56%) say it’s at least somewhat likely that Obama “shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States.

How does that fit into his chances in the General election against McCain? Exactly how will people vote in the general election if this is what they believe?

===

58% Say Obama Denounced Wright for Political Convenience, not Outrage
Friday, May 02, 2008

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 30% of the nation’s Likely Voters believe Barack Obama denounced his former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, because he was outraged. Most—58%--say he denounced the Pastor for political convenience. The survey was conducted on Wednesday and Thursday night. Obama made his statements about Wright on Tuesday.

Wright held a mini-media tour last weekend capped by a press conference at the National Press Club on Monday. Only 33% of voters believe that Obama was surprised by the views Wright expressed at Monday’s press conference. Fifty-two percent (52%) say he was not surprised.

Fifty-six percent (56%) say it’s at least somewhat likely that Obama “shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States.” That figure includes 26% who say it’s Very Likely Obama holds such views. At the other end of the spectrum 24% say it’s Not Very Likely that Obama shares such views. Just 11% say it’s Not at All Likely.

Just 7% of the nation’s voters agree with Wright’s views of the United States. As you would expect, there are strong partisan differences on these questions.

Just 36% of Democrats believe outrage was the motivation for Obama to denounce his former Pastor. That view is shared by 38% of unaffiliated voters and 16% of Republicans.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/58_say_obama_denounced_wright_for_political_convenience_not_outrage

-- May 2, 2008 5:36 PM


Sara wrote:

Free economic handouts and political benefits, the development of nuclear power including with state-of-the-art technology.. and isn't it amazing Iran said YES to being given all these goodies?
Think that means they will go peaceful and stop trying to aquire weapons?
Or is this the reality:

Anthony Cordesman of Washington's CSIS think-tank said he doubted this would change Iran's mind. "Iran is not proliferating as a hobby, it sees the development of missiles and nuclear weapons as a critical national interest," he said.

===

Major powers agree new incentives offer to Iran
By Adrian Croft and Arshad Mohammed
May 2, 2008

LONDON (Reuters) - Major powers agreed on Friday to make a new offer of incentives to Iran to halt its sensitive nuclear work and a European diplomat said helping Tehran develop civil atomic power remained at the heart of the proposal.

The offer, whose details have not been made public, is based on a package of economic and political benefits laid out by the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and Germany in June 2006 but so far spurned by Iran.

"I am glad to say that we have got agreement on an offer that will be made to the government of Iran," said British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, flanked by senior officials from China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States.

"We very much hope that they will recognize the seriousness and the sincerity with which we have approached this issue and that they will respond in a timely manner to the suggestions that we are making," he added.

The United States and other Western nations suspect Iran of using its civil nuclear program as a cover to develop nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is to generate electricity so that it can export more of its oil and gas.

The 2006 proposal included recognition of Iran's right to develop civil nuclear energy, a promise to support the building of new, proliferation-resistant light water reactors and guarantees that Iran would have access to fuel.

Russia has been the main country to promote the idea of refreshing the June 2006 offer while the United States has made no secret of its skepticism, with U.S. officials saying they saw little reason to expect Iran to change course.

The European diplomat said the heart of the previous offer -- helping Iran develop civil nuclear power, including with state-of-the-art technology -- remained.

"The central part is maintained. It also contains a series of elements that can make the core more attractive," said the diplomat, who asked not to be named. "It relates to economic issues," the diplomat added, declining to elaborate.

Anthony Cordesman of Washington's CSIS think-tank said he doubted this would change Iran's mind. "Iran is not proliferating as a hobby, it sees the development of missiles and nuclear weapons as a critical national interest," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080502/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_dc

-- May 2, 2008 10:20 PM


Sara wrote:

We know that Saddam had the intent to attack the US with WMD as he discussed on those tapes ABC aired..
And he would have had the bomb within one year from the time the US invaded.. as the NYTimes reported
( http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction )

Can the politics be set aside and can we acknowledge the empirical evidence in an apolitical manner?

===

Yes, Iraq Had Unsettling al Qaida Connections
Nicholas M. Guariglia - 5/3/2008

The proposition that Iraq, prior to our intervention, never had a connection to al Qaida, or to any jihadist movement in a broader sense, has prematurely congealed into conventional wisdom. Nevertheless, this exemption of the Hussein family is fallacious and untrue. It would be appropriate if we can look at the history and information we have — the known knowns, let’s say — in an empirical and apolitical manner, separating this discussion from the debate as to whether or not any of this merited war.

Firstly, it should be noted that it was always unclear whether or not al Qaida’s relationship with the Ba’athist government (which it distrusted immensely) had reached a collaborative level; secondly, it should be noted that al Qaida is unique amongst the world’s terrorist networks in that it has few, if not zero, “collaborative” and “operational” relationships with other states and regimes (including their long-time patrons and ideological clones, the Islamists in Sudan and the Salafist Taliban guerrillas); and thirdly, the entire premise behind preemptive/preventative intervention is to prevent such collaboration.

Yet what does the 9/11 Commission report say about the relationship?

Some cite this testimony and are acute in washing their hands of the issue. “Iraq never attacked us, never worked with al Qaida, end of story,” the reasoning goes. But there is more to it than meets the eye. In the same 9/11 Commission report which discounts a collaborative link, there is recognition of long-held attempts by both parties to cooperate against common opponents.

During his time in Sudan, we know that bin Laden himself “met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994… (bin Laden) is said to have asked for space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but there is no evidence that Iraq responded to the request,” the report reads. The next few years saw “additional efforts to establish connections,” as bin Laden and Dr. Zawahiri sent out “a number of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation.”

The investigation continues, stating “Hussein’s efforts at this time to rebuild relations with the Saudis… led him to stay clear of bin Laden.” But in mid-1998, “the situation reversed; it was Iraq that reportedly took the initiative.” The report goes on, detailing how in March and July of that year al Qaida operatives met with Iraqi intelligence agents. In 1999, during a period of “strains” with the Taliban, “Iraqi officials offered bin Laden a safe haven in Iraq. Bin Laden declined, apparently judging that his circumstances in Afghanistan remained more favorable than the Iraqi alternative.” Two years later, Kurdish Islamists in Iraq “with bin Laden’s help… reformed into an organization called Ansar al Islam.” Intelligence suggested at the time, and suggests today, that the “Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy,” namely, the other secular Kurdish leaders Jalal Talabani and Masoud Barzani, who were despised equally by the Islamists and the Ba’athists.

What does this all mean?

The point is not that there was any provable impending doomsday on the horizon, or that the Iraqi Ba’athists and the al Qaida chaps were fond of each other. They were not fond of each other, and were ideologically in disagreement, inasmuch as the Ba’athists in Damascus and their Hezbollah surrogates in Beirut, or the Shi’a mullahs in Tehran and their Sunni beneficiaries in Gaza, conjure up diametrical opposition.

The point is simply that those who discount any unsettling link — or worse, and even more irresponsible, discount the possibility that the two entities might curtail their pride, hold their noses, and collude against innocents — ought to be challenged. And they ought to be challenged by sources and references they themselves cite when they assert there was no reason ever to be concerned.

So, there we have it: requests for basing privileges and offers of asylum, each of which were turned down not due to hostility but due to the unfavorable logistics of the moment. One looks at Hussein’s history of offering safe haven to the world’s most wanted men (Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, etc.), and Iraq’s preponderance to support jihadist groups, affiliated with al Qaida, as far away as Algeria (the GSPC) and the Philippines (the Abu Sayyaf Group), and it should be acknowledged that it was not entirely unreasonable for a statesman to look at Iraq and al Qaida’s unclear relationship and say, “This is as far as it is ever going to get.”

- Nicholas M. Guariglia writes on the issues of national defense and counterterrorism, specifically regarding Middle East geopolitics. He is a student at the John C. Whitehead School of Diplomacy and International Relations at Seton Hall University, where he is studying American foreign policy. Mr. Guariglia also contributes to WorldThreats.com.

http://www.globalpolitician.com/24686-iran-al-qaida-terror

-- May 3, 2008 12:37 AM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

Thanks for the in depth coverage of the Presidential elections, it is indeed one of the cornerstones for the future US/Iraq policies.

This presidential pre nomination, campaign, have been an all out Democratic affair, as the Republicans had it done in no time, so it has been Democrats on the floor almost all the time.

An election is always hard to tell, ideas and support swings. One reporter finds that one of the delegates chopped a head off a frog, and tossed it down the blouse behind a girls neck as a six year old, and will dwell on that story for ten weeks, including animal rights advocates that will do daily testimonies.

The story will not end until that candidate have to do a public apology for his mischiefs with the frog, and he will for the occasion find and invite the girl that was the victim of his prank, and have a big photo op when they are either hugging, or shaking hands with the White House as a backdrop. In the meanwhile as the story was running, his points dropped.

One candidate say something, someone gets offended, and starts a campaign against the candidate. The candidate may very well have been spot on, and very frank, but in pre election times, you better keep your mouth shut, other than saying the generic political phrases commonly accepted.

Close to some point in the election, where the points are hanging in balance, the rival opponents team will usually "leak" some mishaps with a bartender in 1969.

So it is pretty much a thing in the air, candidates have been even stronger in the past and lost at the goal rope.

The mechanisms of swaying voters is usually not logic and reason from the candidate, but scandals and cover ups, leaked from the opposite side.

McCain seems right no to be the strongest one, on the Republican side, he have won all the points needed to get nominated, Clinton and Obama have still to fight it out, but it is right now in a position where none of the candidates actually have got the nomination.

Obama seems to be sliding, and Clinton will probably have a better shot at it because of that, but the internal split in the Democrats seems to be much bigger than I first anticipated, and there is a kind of "new age" Democrats, with Obama, and "Classic" Democrats with Clinton. The two factions , once they have battled out whom to nominate, will probably not unite in the same way as the Republican party.

I bet you, mark my words, that at the Democratic Nomination Congress, there will be some upsets, some that will scream and be taken out by security guards. Some kind of demonstration, some kind of non planned thing that will take place, that will bring the attraction of hordes of photographers. Inside or outside, I don't know, but the Democrats are not as homogeneous as in the past.

If you or I are a Republican or Democrat is of less importance, as the effect of the next presidency will heavily weigh in on future Iraqi policies.

If worse come to worse, and the next president would consider scrapping the whole Iraqi deal, bring the troops back, the Iraqi investment would not collapse, but it for sure would make it very hard on Iraq to get trough for a couple of years, as it would leave Iraq very vulnerable from outside sources.

Probably they would live through it, and as I can understand it, as we speak, the Iraqi Government is already strong enough right now to deal with it's own internal affairs (militias), They still have some shaky legs, and are supported with US expertise, but all in all, the strength is increasing by the day.

The US withdrawal have in fact started already, but it will not be a quick one, and by the time of the next year there will be a completely different scene. Even the most hard nose president that have promised withdrawals as soon as possible, will by the time the presidential post is to be occupied, be in the midst of a withdrawal anyway.

The harder part is if the new president will order a withdrawal that is not in par with the need in Iraq, and is too hastily.

The last battles with a militia is probably what we are seeing now, with the Al Sadr and his criminals, but as with all the other battles, he will be defeated, and the people formerly supporting him, will also say, -"enough is enough".

With that, probably the whole Iraq will be pacified, ( except from rouge elements, probably some elements of Al qaeda, and some freelancing rebels might very well pledge fighting to their death, but as organized big militias are concerned, this is the last of the groups to be subdued). I don't think that more than a month or two is needed in order for the whole thing to start settling down.

That's still far away from any new president.

The new president will actually face a lot more pleasant issues, like the reconstruction of Iraq.

As for security poicies, our interntional politics, and our war on terrorism, things might or might not change with our new president, but as far as the investment and the danger that it might not pan out...naa..Iraq will have a good grip on things by the time this presidential election is over. They actually already have.

-- May 3, 2008 12:48 AM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

Free handouts, to Iran, if they stop their nuclear program.

They will lie, they will say yes, and for sure they take the hand out, but will for sure not stop making nuclear bombs.

-- May 3, 2008 12:58 AM


Carole wrote:

Roger,

You are absolutely right. It amazes me how stupid we can be.....or are we??? Is there some effect that we are being baited for? I sure hope so.

What also amazes me is how upside down journalists ( even conservatives) research their issues.

Wouldn't you have thought that 30 seconds after Rev.Wright announced that he was a strong promoter of Black Liberation Theology, SOMEONE would have researched what that meant and made it public? (I couldn't googles it fast enough)

As Wright was announcing his devotion to Black Liberation Theology, within the same day Obama publicly declared Wright one of the top most gifted and learned Theologians of our time.

So,.....#1. Are we to believe that he had no clue of what WRIGHT really brought to the pulpit.....and #2. WHY DID JOURNALISTS,(ESPECIALLY CONSERVATIVES) not pick up on this?

These revelations, alone would have stopped all of the insanity that is taking place now on the air waves. And more than likely, Obama would not be ahead in anyway as far as delegate votes.

This election year presents a paradox of choices. I guess, the least of the evils,is Mc Cain. But I see him as a dangerous man, soley because his agenda is to be something to everybody. The spin on his legacy as a war hero has grown rusty, and in my opinion, he's looking for a new identity. He is wishy washy, flows with the way the wind blows, terminally looking for away to appear to be a peacemaker and pacifier. DEFINITELY NOT WHAT THIS WORLD NEEDS IN A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT.

Regardless, of what BLACK POLITICIANS, would have the masses believe, we have made phenmonenal strides against destructive racist practices in this country.

As we have made great strides in equality of women. WE THE POEPLE, have done it!

I believe, WE are ready, more than ever, to have a Black President or Woman President......just not Obama, who is not only liberal but under it all anti-foundational and traditional America, or Hiliary, who has had a socialist marxist agenda most all of her adult life.

What a slap in the face to Americans, by presenting these pitiful candidates for us to chose from, especially when so much is at stake globally.

Carole


-- May 3, 2008 10:27 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger, you doubt the good intentions of Iran? You don't believe they will stop all development of weapons and take the nice incentives they are offered instead? What on earth could have led you to that conclusion? LOL

That is PRECISELY the kind of logic and reasoning I expect to prevail in the upcoming election. No one can pull the wool over your eyes (feed you a falsehood which you will receive as truth), and I believe the American people are intelligent like you. There is a limit to how much false information can make inroads into the public mindset when there is freedom of information. The soundbytes of "God damn America" from Obama's pastor now have a place in history and in the collective conciousness of the voting public. Just as you arrived at the conclusion that Iran is LYING to take the incentives and will not stop developing nuclear weapons, so the people of America will permanently make up their minds that Obama shares some anti-America opinions and cannot be trusted with the state secrets of the country. They will decide that the power position of the most powerful nation on earth should not be held by someone who may (knowingly or unknowingly) help some anti-Americans by his sympathizing with their viewpoint (not understanding, sympathizing - holding the same viewpoint toward America).

Obama is like these people who are negotiating with Iran - you disagree that they are obtaining their objectives of disarming Iran and stopping its development of nuclear weapons. As you know, such negotiating with Iran is a top priority with Obama.. and he has said he will invite Ahmadinejad to the Whitehouse to "negotiate" just as this group has.. and likely give Ahmadinejad all kinds of concessions as this group just did, once he is President. You don't think that will work?

As I see it, you don't think that negotiating with Iran went very far to resolve the question of them arming themselves with nuclear weaponry, and I am willing to bet you think that the same strategy won't work at the Whitehouse level with Ahmadinejad directly. That view is one that appears to me to be far more rational and necessary to the security of the American homeland. I believe that Americans will "get it" and their mindset will take into account such positions as Obama and these negotiators hold and their irrationality.. since American lives are indeed at stake here. The lives they save may be their own.

As for Obama's comments about religion - which have continued to bother me - he tried to downplay and rephrase his remarks in a May 1 "Today" interview to be aired today by saying he made the comment when tired at the end of a long day. But he did not retract the words and even his "clarification" shows what he thinks. The context for his remarks about people "clinging to God" were that when people go through tough and troubled times economically, it causes them to rely on God instead of money. The thing that bothers me is this.. he appears to feel it is right to rely on money instead. You see, Jesus said you cannot serve two masters.. you cannot serve God and money. Obama is saying that when people are poor or bad economic times come, they "cling to God".. that means instead of something else.. instead of money. But when they are rich and all is going well, then things are "normal" and they don't need God anymore. See if that is not what he is implying here for yourself.
Here is his context, taken from an article on it:
QUOTE:

BARACK: The comments I made in San Francisco at the end of a long day . . .were very poorly phrased. I should have said "angry and frustrated."

MEREDITH VIEIRA: Instead of "bitter."

BARACK: I should have said "people rely on" their religious faith during these times of trouble. (Note that is bad, not good, according to Barack - Sara.)

VIEIRA: Instead of "cling to."

BARACK: As opposed to "cling to."

But Obama conveniently focuses only on the reference he made in San Franciso to religion. Here is the entire sentence:
QUOTE:

[I]t's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. (end quote)

How would it have been any less insulting for Obama to have said that during tough economic times, people "rely" on "guns . . . or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment"?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/05/01/today-interview-baracks-bitter-gate-rephrasing-no-better

====end article==

The point is, Obama is saying that when tough times come, people "get bitter" (or angry and frustrated) and INCORRECTLY "cling to" or "rely on" religion.. instead of ??? what? Money. Because money is the only other thing people CAN cling to according to Jesus. In troubled times people either cling to money or God.. they cannot go serve something else. There are only two masters to choose from. So Obama is saying, by my reading of it, that he relies on money, not God (what ELSE could he be referring to as the "right" thing to rely upon?) For Christians, relying on money instead of God disqualifies him for office as strongly as if he had said he is an atheist. In times of trouble for the country, Obama will not rely on God for help - he thinks that is a response of "bitterness" and wrong. If he can glibly speak of God and relying on Him with that amount of irreverence, he does not know Him. He does not rely on Him. Can Americans approve of such a sentiment and allow such a person to hold the ultimate concentration of power in the US government - the office of the President of the United States?

Considering his stand against God and for money as what to "cling to" in times of trouble and frustration, along with his penchant for negotiating with and sympathizing with anti-American sentiment and his desire to "negotiate" with terrorists and terrorist countries like Iran - the choice placed before the American public as to who leads the country during this time of war, trouble and frustration is very serious indeed.

Sara.

PS Someone should have asked Obama point blank.. "Then in times of trouble what SHOULD people who get "frustrated and angry" rely upon?" THAT is the telling question.

-- May 3, 2008 12:34 PM


Sara wrote:

What should people rely upon in times of trouble?

Independent defined from its components:

In = In
Deos = God
Pend = it all hangs

To be independent during a time of trouble.. is to rely only and completely on God.
In every situation in the Bible where the people relied on God during troubled times,
they were given victory.
By "clinging" to God during trouble.. they WON.

Obama says "clinging" or relying on God in troubled times is wrong..
what does that say about his brand of religion - (Black Liberation "Christianity")?
(Christianity in brackets because I am having trouble finding Christ in Black Liberation "Christianity.")
Obviously, sermons about relying on God during difficult times were not preached by his pastor Wright.

Sara.

-- May 3, 2008 1:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Sadr snubs Iraq peace overtures
May 3, 2008

NAJAF: Shi'ite radical leader Moqtada Al Sadr yesterday refused to hold talks with Iraqi MPs who had gone to Iran to try to end clashes between his fighters and troops.

"He did not permit his leaders to meet the Iraqi delegation," said Sheikh Salah Al Obeidi, the cleric's spokesman in Najaf.

"Al Sadr insists that the crisis can be solved only through an initiative from parliament which has been backed by President Jalal Talabani and speaker Mahmud Mashhadani."

Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini confirmed the presence of the Iraqi delegation in Tehran but declined to say where Al Sadr was.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=216226&Sn=WORL&IssueID=31043

-- May 3, 2008 4:48 PM


Sara wrote:

Aziz trial adjourned in Iraq
Apr 30, 2008

The trial of one of the best known figures from the Government of the former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has been adjourned shortly after it opened in Baghdad.

Saddam's former spokesman Tariq Aziz is one of eight people accused of involvement in the summary execution of a group of businessmen in 1992.

The prosecution alleges the men were killed for hiking food prices when Iraq was under tight UN economic sanctions.

If found guilty Aziz could be sentenced to death.

The trial was adjourned until next month because another defendant is ill.

The ill man is Ali Hassan Al-Majid, known as Chemical Ali, who has already been sentenced to death in another case.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/30/2231002.htm?section=justin

-- May 3, 2008 4:51 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraqi Citizens Capture Criminal Responsible for Detonating Bomb
Saturday, 03 May 2008
By Multi-National Division – Baghdad

BAGHDAD — Iraqi citizens, who witnessed a vehicle borne improvised explosive device that killed one Multi-National Division – Baghdad Soldier, turned over a criminal to the Iraqi National Police, May 1.

The citizens observed a man parking a vehicle and walking a significant distance away from it. They saw the man using a cell phone before the detonation. After the blast, Iraqi citizens chased the criminal and made a citizen’s arrest. The criminal was turned over to the Iraqi National Police, where he tested positive for explosive compounds.

Two other criminals were also apprehended after they were observed and identified watching the area when the blast occurred. They also tested positive for explosives.

“An American Soldier paid the ultimate price on behalf of his country, his family and the citizens of Iraq,” said Col. Allen Batschelet, the chief of staff for MND-B and the 4th Infantry Division. “We will not relent in our efforts to rid Baghdad of these criminal elements, and today, as many times before, we were aided in that struggle by the people of Iraq.

“The citizens of Iraq have repeatedly shown their displeasure for these criminals operating in their neighborhoods and are continuing to assist American forces to rid these criminals off the streets in Baghdad,” Batschelet said.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19032&Itemid=1

-- May 3, 2008 4:56 PM


Sara wrote:

Six al-Qaeda suspects detained in central Iraq
Saturday, 03 May 2008

BAGHDAD – Coalition forces detained six suspected terrorists during operations targeting al-Qaeda in central Iraq Saturday.

During a precision operation in Baghdad, Coalition forces captured a suspected would-be suicide bomber believed to be targeting an area near Baghdad International Airport.

Two operations targeted AQI in Salah ad-Din province. Coalition forces disrupted the network by capturing a suspected terrorist liaison and three additional suspects 70 miles northwest of Baghdad. Using information from an operation April 23, Coalition forces detained one suspected terrorist believed to be part of the AQI network in the province during a mission 80 miles north of Baghdad.

“We will not allow al-Qaeda in Iraq’s tactics to derail the government elected by the Iraqi people,” said Lt. Col. Maura Gillen, MNF-I spokesperson. “The indiscriminate attacks of these terrorists are contrary to the ideals of peaceful Iraqis and will not be tolerated.”

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19055&Itemid=128

-- May 3, 2008 4:59 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Strike in Baghdad Takes Out Militant Command Center
Saturday, May 03, 2008

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military fired guided missiles into the heart of Baghdad's teeming Sadr City slum on Saturday, leveling a building 55 yards away from a hospital and wounding nearly two dozen people. AP Television News footage showed several ambulances destroyed and on fire, thick black smoke rising from them as firefighters worked to put out the flames.

The strike, made from a ground launcher, took out a militant command-control center, the U.S. military said. The center was located in the heart of the eight-square-mile neighborhood that is home to about 2.5 million people. Iraqi officials said at least 23 people were wounded, though none of them were patients in the hospital.

The U.S. military blamed the militants for using Iraqi civilians as human shields. "This is a circumstance where these criminal groups are operating directly out of civilian neighborhoods," military spokeswoman Spc. Megan Burmeister told The Associated Press in an e-mail.

She said it presents a "complex and very difficult" challenge for U.S. forces to strike the militants when they are "putting themselves next to municipal buildings."

Dr. Ali Bustan al-Fartusee, director general of Baghdad's health directorate, told the AP that no patients in the hospital were hurt, but that some of the wounded included civilians outside on their way to visit patients in the hospital. He also said 17 ambulances were damaged or destroyed. There did not appear to be any damage to the hospital itself.

Shiite extremists are known to have operated in a building next to the hospital, local reporters said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354079,00.html

-- May 3, 2008 6:29 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Carole, Valerio and the others who are Christians on the board, is the left trying to take the evangelical vote? See -

AP: ‘Conservative’ Christian's ‘Manifesto’ Has Few Conservatives Involved
By Warner Todd Huston
May 3, 2008

On May 2, the Associated Press uncritically reported that an effort to clarify where "evangelicals" stand in the culture/political war in America is soon to be released. It is to be called "An Evangelical Manifesto" and is touted by the AP as a statement by "evangelicals" that "faith is now too political." That isn't all. The AP is claiming that it isn't just Christian leaders in general that are saying this but that it is "conservative Christian leaders" who are standing up and denouncing politics in religion. But a little investigation proves that "conservative leaders" is not a very good description of those who have signed onto this "manifesto." In fact, many of the most well-known conservative Christian leaders in the country have decided not to sign onto the "manifesto" and many more weren't even consulted or included in the creation of this highly political document that pretends it stands against politics.

Sadly, this "manifesto" that is claiming to want to take religion back from its political involvement is itself a political statement, one that was created by people that refused to include Christian leaders from the right side of the political spectrum. This so-called "manifesto" seems to be just another attempt by the political left to undermine the devotion of Christians to the political right.

This so-called "manifesto" has not been released, so we do not have a full list of all those who have signed onto the letter. But many details about the contents and those who have signed onto the thing have been reported. And what we find is that a large number of those Christian leaders who are associated with powerful right leaning organizations were refused a place at the table of the creation of this document.

This raises a lot of questions. For instance, if known conservative leaders weren't involved or haven't signed onto this thing, how can it be claimed to be apolitical much less a product of "conservative Christian leaders"?

This project is beginning to look more like a group of Christians with ant-conservative views attempting to steal the mantle of leadership away from those who are now associated with Christianity in America. But to what end? We know that over the last year the political left has made major attempts to claim Christianity for themselves.

The left has made a concerted campaign to take over Christianity and use it for the purposes of the Democrat Party and the cultural left in America today. People like Dr. Tony Campolo, and Jim Wallis have been known to work closely with the Democrat Party. The failed presidential bid by John Edwards also made attempts to work with the Christian left. Various organizations have sprung up since the late 1990s to further the leftist agenda in politics.

Is this "Evangelical Manifesto" just another attempt by the far left in America to co-opt Christianity in America? It's a bit hard to believe otherwise since the people that put this project together studiously excluded so many prominent conservative Christians.

But one thing is for sure, the MSM will present them as "conservative Christian leaders" even as hardly any known and real conservative leaders are involved in this project.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/05/03/ap-conservative-christians-manifesto-has-few-conservatives-invol

-- May 3, 2008 7:34 PM


Sara wrote:

God so loved the world that He did not send a committee. :)

Trying to influence the Evangelical vote by saying their peers don't agree with them concerning the point of being active in politics - while untrue according to this article, it should not work even if it WAS true. Because Christians are supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit and so they should have prayed and had discernment from the Lord on it.

However, one wonders at the state of the church today..

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Calif. Man Accused of Targeting Christians in $25M Nationwide Ponzi Scheme
Friday, May 02, 2008

SANTA ANA, Calif. — Federal investigators arrested a man Friday on a charge of wire fraud and alleged he ran a Ponzi scheme that netted more than $25 million by targeting Christian investors nationwide.

According to the criminal complaint, Jon G. Ervin, 61, of Mission Viejo used Safevest to persuade victims to invest in a fake commodity futures trading program. Investors were told Safevest would use no more than 13 percent of their deposit in hundreds of commodity trades a day on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, with a guarantee of up to 1 percent in returns each day.

Investors could check their returns on a password-protected Web site that was run exclusively by Ervin. The program attracted about 550 investors, officials said.

Investigators alleged, however, that Ervin didn't invest any of the money in commodities trading and instead spent $1 million of the money to invest in a Georgia golf course. He also bought a sport utility vehicle and spent lavishly on air travel, gourmet meals and shopping, said Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office.

Up to 80 percent of investors were churchgoing Christians and many joined the program after being approached by fellow worshippers through a referral system, according to court papers.

Those who referred others in their church would receive a 10 percent "referral fee" from the profits of the new members they solicited; pastors were required to make an initial investment of $5,000, while non-pastors had to put down $25,000, according to federal documents.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354005,00.html

So maybe these people who are sponsoring this "initiative" saying it represents the evangelical church think they CAN hoodwink the evangelical Christian Church into believing them and voting the way the Left wishes them to do.

If there wasn't a shepherd.. and I looked only at the sheeple.. I would worry we were sunk, too.

Sara.

-- May 3, 2008 9:17 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq seeks to establish a large bank transactions

5-2-08

Iraq seeks to establish a large bank transactions

BAGHDAD: Abdel Aziz announced Hassoun, Executive Director of the Association of Iraqi banks that own the banking sector in Iraq needs to activate its activity, especially at the level of his dealings and relations with banks outside Iraq, considering increasing the capital of Iraqi banks and mergers among themselves in a priority sector in the current phases And future.

He told Hassoun in his "life" of London that it was during the ASEAN meeting this week to discuss the banks to perform banking work and ways of development, and most research in which the idea of combining an Iraqi bank to be able to pay large banking transactions and management, seeking to strengthen its course according to international standards .

Hassoun felt that the size of the assets of private Iraqi banks total is still small, compared to assets of any Arab or foreign bank, at 3079.4 billion Iraqi dinars, or about 2.5 billion dollars

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-- May 3, 2008 9:26 PM



cornishboy wrote:


President confirms Iraq's desire to develop relations with China

The President Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi leadership's resolve to expand and develop relations with the People's Republic of China at all levels.
This came during a reception excellencies noon today, Saturday, 3/5/2008 at his residence in Baghdad Chinese Ambassador to Iraq Chen Xiao Dong occasion of the end of his service in Iraq.

At the meeting which was attended by a number of Iraqi officials in addition to the crew of the Chinese Embassy, President Talabani stressed that Iraqi and Chinese peoples are associated with strong historical ties and to strengthen these relations will be reflected positively on the common interests of both countries, again emphasized that the Council presidency and the government are looking forward to expanding Frameworks of cooperation and joint action with China in political, economic, oil, including goodness and mutual benefit to both sides.

Excellencies and touched on developments and achievements and political security, economic and physical throughout Iraq, pointing out that there is ample room for Chinese companies to work in safe areas dependent Kurdistan and the southern provinces and western parts of the country and then throughout Iraq with security and Stability better, valuing the role of Chinese Ambassador to expand and strengthen bilateral relations between Iraq and the People's Republic of China and wished him every success in his work and the conciliator next.

On his part, Chinese Ambassador through its appreciation higher for the efforts made by President Talabani and efforts to strengthen the course of bilateral relations between the two countries and said this regard: not for your interest and your auspices large as the relations between the two countries evolving in this format and solid, and we are proud pioneering role in bridging this Relations necessary for both sides.

Chinese Ambassador also pointed out that there are broader prospects for cooperation and the development of this historic relationship provides a better atmosphere for joint action in all fields, stressing that the Chinese government and people will continue to support the Iraqi government and the political process and always stands with Iraq, and added: We in China have great sympathy with the Iraqi people and we do not want people to this great, but good stability, peace and prosperity.
And stressed that he will continue to support Iraq and its legitimate aspirations and struggle hard wherever it is to strengthen relations between the two friendly countries.

Excellencies grateful for the generous hospitality and expressed his appreciation for the support he received from President Talabani during his service in Iraq. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...-US:unofficial

-- May 3, 2008 9:34 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Either before
Are left (opponents) from deteriorating?

24/04/2008

After a more than 15 centuries is still a question Antara ibn Shaddad Al-Absi commentators in the famous (Will left the poets of the deteriorating) valid for re-floatation again. Today we have the right after 15 centuries to put the question to read .. Do we have the politicians left opponents of Mitrdmanm? If Antara remained busy kissing his sword, blood-blood (p N. emerging gang law) in his time because that glint like the sword (the gaps) Abla his sweetheart, we busy and N. more than file and the issue of where love is no longer a pristine (safe haven) for one of the lovers so Who are like (General) Four Stars specifications Antara.

Every day we keep political opponents new provisions. . With the large number of their tales of tragic dimension but some of the prejudice of humour and entertainment. While differences among themselves to elevate the degree of conspiracies and mutual mistrust, or the ruling party or the other. And sometimes landing to the point of diminishing differences and certainly in a wave of mutual love mysticSmile footage shown by their own television show every leader of the opponents of the corner smiling, which is skilled at dealing with his own photographer photographer who is the repository of the party or sect or denomination Awalachireh and does not necessarily have to be repatriated. These eternal smiles suitable to be encrypted messages to the Baghdad market for securities dealings to open until tomorrow to the sound of those smiles that melted away with an iceberg, even if it is part of frost Siberia. Mahoney messages for the Central Bank to employ those smiles to reduce the demand for the dollar and raise the value of Iraqi dinar at least morally. These letters have gone away to the Wall Street Stock Exchange and exchanges in New York in June next oil delivery.

The next day, where Iraqis wakes to the sound of the dreams of a rosy smile reflected in private channels and not those tendentious and suspicious last night in clashes with everyone rising sun that everything stopped at the last Snapshot smile. .. And between dream and nightmare forcing citizens (Karim usually) a description given him Hatmi generosity of the same channels to restore (Stare) those smiles again .. And not to him or allowed him within the rules of the democratic game only counts teeth Gentlemen officials matrix like the teeth of a comb in recent Snapshot of fixed and movable on the website of the party Awaltaevh because it can count the amount by which the promises that they unleashed since the first smile until the last smile, provided that each fall, which seems to Altkotaibat Their faces because it was such that it can be .. For limited circulation

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-- May 3, 2008 9:52 PM


Roger wrote:

cornishboy,

Iraq and China, well doesn't seem to be to odd of a pair after all, China is getting mighty thirsty for Iraqi oil, so China better come up with good smiles.

How that will fit into the right now up and created new energy hub, where Turkey, Israel, India is the key partners, is a bit of a mystery.

India and China have not too good of a relationship and have even had full fledged firefights in border skirmishes.

Both Inda and China are well on the way of getting their masses of people into motorized vehicles. They are both in the very beginning of the process, but each year the "need for speed" increases sharply both in India and China. They are the two powers that will make the oil have a purchaser in the future, and they will make sure that there are no surplus oil on the market.

India and China have been living with each other for many thousands of years, and very oittle cutural contact have even been possible between the two as the Himalayas are the big divider, but in modern times, their presence, and what this means for each of the two have been moved into awareness more and more.

India and China will be the two competing blocks, that will need the oil, rest of the world will have increasingly bigger need as well, but in general there are well established consumer blocks for petroleum since long time back, and the two gigants, that are now emerging, will therefore see each other as competitors.

I doubt that there will be any earlier type conflicts, when they shoot at each other for three days, and each side then declare victory. Both India and China have developed a deep industrial and business type atmpsphere since, and the pull on the oil will be more like what we are seing here, China will promise Iraq, this and that, India will counter with a proposal of a new refinery if India get this or that.

They will sign treaties, and they will claim that the treaty with the other part is not fair.

Either way, the BS China is now pulling is just that. China and Russia have categorically been against any US involvement in the Middle East, and have acted openly in any UN resolution to that effect about it.

If China would have had it their way, there would still be a Saddam Hussein there.

Here the Chineese are standing, smiling, saying that they're with, and support the Iraqi people and .....bla bla...

As business partner though, Iraq would looooove to have India AND China, nothing is better than a leverage.


Either before,
Are left (opponents) are deteriorating?

Read it , didnt understand it, read it again, didnt get it, read it the third time, gave up.

-- May 4, 2008 1:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Economy




Iraq participates in preparatory meeting for Arab economic summit

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Sunday , 04 /05 /2008 Time 5:12:28




Baghdad, May 1, (VOI) – Head of the economic relations council in the Arab League said on Thursday that Iraq takes part in the Cairo-based preparatory meetings for the upcoming Arab economic summit, scheduled for early 2009.
"One of the goals of the upcoming economic summit, which is due to be held in Kuwait at the beginning of next year, is to fulfill the requirements for an Arab economic integration," Thamir al-Aani told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The statements were made on the sidelines of a two-day meeting at the headquarters of the League of Arab States in Cairo, with the participation of representatives from all Arab states.
Al-Aani attended the meeting in his capacity as the head of the economic relations council and as a representative for his country, Iraq.
"We are currently in a bridging period between an Arab free trade zone and the establishment of a customs federation, which is the second crucial stage for an Arab economic integration. In the coming stage, we will be focusing on the customs federation and the common Arab market…," al-Aani noted.
"The meeting also tackles issues of common concern to the Arab world, economic development in relation to human development, and suggestions to activate Arab economic cooperation and to free up trade between Arab countries…," al-Aani added.
Al-Aani explained that the problems facing Iraq, mainly the misuse of human and industrial resources, and agricultural land, are more or less the problems of the entire Arab world.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 4, 2008 12:13 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

First Lady escapes assassination in Baghdad 04/05/2008 14:40:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The First Lady Hero Talabani –Hero Ibrahim Ahmed- escaped Sunday before noon an assassination attempt in Baghdad when a roadside targeted her motorcade near the National Theatre in central Baghdad.

(www.ninanews.com)

thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 4, 2008 12:19 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

International Relations

White House admits Mission Unaccomplished in Iraq
Five years after Bush’s 'Mission Accomplished' statement, White House says 'paid price' for wrong impression.

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Washington, 02 May 2008 (Middle East Online)
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Source: Middle East Online
Now denying 'Mission Accomplished'
The White House said Wednesday that it had "paid a price" for the "Mission Accomplished" backdrop to US President George W. Bush's May 1, 2003 Iraq speech, saying it left the wrong impression.

"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific, and said, 'Mission Accomplished For These Sailors Who Are On This Ship On Their Mission,'" said spokeswoman Dana Perino.

"We have certainly paid a price for not being more specific on that banner. And I recognize that the media is going to play this up again tomorrow, as they do every single year," she said.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner hanging behind Bush on the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier has become a powerful symbol to his critics of how badly he underestimated the difficulties ahead in Iraq, where more than 4,000 US soldiers have paid the ultimate price.

What has become an annual act of political contrition, mixed with defiance, had special import because of November US presidential elections shaped by the war and its architect -- both hugely unpopular with the US public.

The White House's explanation for the banner repeatedly changed as the insurgency in Iraq revved up, though aides have steadfastly pointed out that Bush never said "mission accomplished" in his speech.

Bush said "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" and declared that "the battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 -- and still goes on."

But even that has drawn pointed questions, with former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld saying he had fought to have the White House remove the phrase from the remarks. The White House denies Rumsfeld's account.

And one week later, on June 5, 2003, Bush told US troops at Camp As Sayliyah in Qatar: "America sent you on a mission to remove a grave threat and to liberate an oppressed people, and that mission has been accomplished."

The White House says that Bush was plainly referring to the goal of ousting Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the chief aim of the March 2003 US-led invasion.

And the official answer to "who put up the banner" has changed -- as the death toll rose, the White House and Bush himself said the sailors had put it up on their own, even though aides had initially boasted of their stagecraft.

Then Bush aides admitted that the White House designed and built it, but insisted they did so at the sailors' request, and that it celebrated the ship and its crew -- not victory in Iraq.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 4, 2008 12:23 PM


Sara wrote:

God's hand is over all circumstances.
Sometimes He takes a direct hand, sometimes it is only His permissible will.
Was this a direct implication of His will for those watching the Democrat nomination process for the Presidential race?

===

Hillary’s Derby Pick Finishes 2nd, Is Put Down
From the Associated Press:

Filly Eight Belles breaks down after 2nd-place Derby finish
By BETH HARRIS

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Filly Eight Belles finished second behind favorite Big Brown in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday, then collapsed with two broken front ankles and was euthanized after crossing the wire.

The field of 20 horses was galloping out around the first turn at Churchill Downs when Eight Belles suddenly went down on both front legs and jockey Gabriel Saez slid off.

An equine ambulance reached her on the track and put Eight Belles down.

There was no possible way to save her,” on-call veterinarian Dr. Larry Bramlage said. “She broke both front ankles. That’s a bad injury.”

===end quote===

Not to make everything political, but isn’t it ominous that Hillary’s pick for the Kentucky Derby — the only filly in the race — broke her two front ankles crossing the finish line in second place and had to be put down?

And she lost to “Big Brown”?

Still, what a senseless tragedy. Something has got to be done about running these poor dumb animals to death.

And I don’t mean our politicians.

Comments:

1) DEZ

And Big Brown takes 1st place.

2) Perdido

Before you guys start getting any ideas you better re-check Hillary’s ankles.

3) HNAV

A really sad moment and a painful loss.

We in this fine Nation treasure life.

So sad others do not.

But I am sorry to wonder, about the Clinton Curse.

It seems almost everyone in contact with these unethical Clintons, has some tragic loss, massive failure, painful memory, or troubling indictment.

Hillary Clinton went out of her way to politicize this poor FILLY in the Race, and now the loss of this incredible Horse, is simply a bizarre irony at this time.

Hillary Clinton is a part of one of the most unethical teams we have seen in modern US Political Memory.

The Clintons not only lied about the genocide in Rwanda, peddled top secrets to the Chinese, appeased the killer named Arafat, gave mindless Loan Guarantees to the corruption at Enron, but they failed to address the growing threats of the Radical Muslim Militants - actually making the USA more vulnerable to attack - even after the first bombing of the WTC in 1993.

It amazes to see the Liberals continue to empower the Clinton Malfeasance.

And after all the deceit, it wouldn’t surprise me, to believe in the existence of some kind of curse…

4) GetBackJack

So, Big Brown wins it and the only girl in that horse race falls down and is shot.

Sweet babbling buddha if that ain’t as prophetic as the co-piot on Flight 800 being named Kervorkian.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hills-derby-pick-put-down-after-2nd-place-finish

-- May 4, 2008 12:41 PM


cornishboy wrote:


Zubaidi ... Receive the delegation of the card company's global smart card

Received in his office Baqir Jabr Al-Zubaidi, Minister of Finance delegation of the company's global smart card company Iraqi contribute to establishing a
system of smart cards for banking Rafidain and Rashid.

He reviewed Mr. director of the company Mr. Bahaa Abdel Hussein stages of achievement and service to be provided by the citizen, especially the "slice and retired state employees covered by the social welfare system.

The Minister said, "our goal is to seek to develop the performance of Iraqi banks for the purpose of keeping pace with developments witnessed by global banks, notably" that Iraq is on the verge of implementation of major investment projects contribute to these banks much effort in providing service to companies and citizens.

He reviewed Mr. Abdul-Hussein Yasiri, General Director of the Rafidain Bank and Fuad Solicitor General Manager Rasheed Bank stages of completing the project, which will contribute advancement at work in Iraq, as the bank will contribute in providing sophisticated service to customers.

At the conclusion of the meeting His Excellency Mr. Minister not to impose any fees on citizens through the use of this service in addition to providing all facilities to them.
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-- May 4, 2008 2:36 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger (and board) - Are the American people stupid enough to accept outright lies and misrepresentations of John McCain's positions? It looks to me like the DNC are grasping at straws here. What do you think? (Clip is of Howard Dean interviewed by Chris Wallace on the distortion ads the DNC is running)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tHzyEgtI1F4

OR also found at:

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=88f084d5-838f-444c-97ec-6576b87f3ffc

Ed Morrissey commented: It’s a remarkably dishonest effort from a remarkably dishonest man. Pay attention to how Dean never actually answers Wallace’s accusations of distortion, changing the subject back to the DNC’s talking points each time. Dean never defends his ads directly, and for good reason; they’re indefensible. Dean found himself overmatched against Wallace.

-- May 4, 2008 6:05 PM


Roger wrote:

Possibly 85 to 90 % of career politicians are leaches, (My own opinion) and the population are trying to sort out whom to trust. They're loking for that personality, that will set them apart from the slime, and are looking for that Karisma or that person they can identify with.

Then there's the big cadre, that never will be presidents, that never make it so big that they are everyday names, but high enough that they can have a say on occasion, that is the general slime of the career politicians.

Mayors that was caught in some criminal activity, A Governor in some state that was uncovered to cheat on his wife, with a boy. Coruption, political missuse and not representing the post they are elected to, is the common theme.

These are the higups, that are not that high that they are seen all the time, but high enough, that they will have a very comfortable wage, and retirement, and they are protecting that part of their life with any means.

Their loyalty (not all of course) is with themselves and to maintain the lifestyle they have created for themselves, and try to make themselves important, and look brave, and look like they are concerned, look like they care, and in the interest of the common good, will disclose or uncover truths, (in general, about their opponents) , may they be the actual truth or not.

The act of getting up on the stage and pointing to something, is the real act here.

On occasion they have to show themselves, so their voters don't forget about them..... that they are indeed concerned citizens.

-- May 4, 2008 10:56 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

10 security towers installed at oil facilities

Work has been completed on a contract to manufacture and assemble ten surveillance and security towers at several oil facilities operated by the state owned Central Refineries Company, according statement issued by the cabinet’s national media center.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 9:52 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Tones Down Anti-Iran Rhetoric
May 05, 2008
McClatchy-Tribune Information Services
BAGHDAD - The Iraqi government seemed to distance itself from U.S. accusations towards Iran May 4, saying it would not be forced into conflict with its Shiite neighbor. And Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the formation of a committee to look into foreign intervention in Iraq.

As the government appeared to back down from its hardening stance against Iran, in Anbar, four Marines were killed in the deadliest attack in the Sunni province in months.

The government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, told reporters May 4 that a committee was formed to find "tangible information" about foreign intervention, specifically Iran's role in Iraq rather than "information based on speculation."

"We don't want to be pushed into any conflict with any neighboring countries, especially Iran. What happened before is enough. We paid a lot," Dabbagh said, referring to the eight years war between the two nations in which an estimated 1 million people died.

While the Iraqi government has long said they would not be used for a proxy war between the U.S. and Iran at odds over Iran's nuclear aspirations, the statement came as the Iraqi government had taken tough stances towards Iran in the past week. This included sending a delegation last week to Iran to urge them to stop the flow of weapons and to refrain from funding to Shiite militias battling Iraqi Security Forces.

U.S. official in Baghdad rejected allegations made May 3 by a senior Iranian official who, according to Iranian state media, accused the United States of attacking Iraqi civilians.

U.S. Embassy spokesman Armand Cucciniello said that the remarks by an unnamed Iranian official "align the Iranian government with these very extremists and criminal elements and against the Iraqi government and people.

"The only appropriate response...to the concerns raised by the government of Iraq is for Iran to immediately cease providing funding, training and arms to extremist militias in Iraq."

In Sadr City, the battle continued with overnight U.S. airstrikes in the northeast Shiite slum and stronghold of cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.

While al-Maliki said he would not stand for enemy "gangs" in Iraq, al-Sadr officials said they were open to negotiation.

Baha al-Araji, a Sadrist lawmaker, condemned attacks on the heavily fortified Green Zone where the U.S. Embassy and Iraqi government offices are located and said that disbanding the Mahdi Army was a legitimate request. The Green Zone has come under heavy rocket fire for over a month.

"There are actions that Islam does not accept including random strikes coming out of Sadr City and into the Green Zone," al-Araji said. "The government requested the disbanding of the Mahdi Army and this is a legitimate request to establish a state of law. But the law should be implemented upon all parties including the militias that entered the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Interior and still take their orders from their parties."

Al-Araji refers to the military wing of their Shiite rival the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, the Badr Organization along with other party militias. The Badr Organization was largely absorbed into the National Police but is known to still take orders from their party.

But he added that the Iraqi government provoked the Mahdi Army after nearly a year of peaceful overtures from al-Sadr, including twice freezing armed activity by his militia. He said he realized during visits to the slum of Sadr City, estimated to have more than 2 million people, how unpopular all political parties, including the Sadrists, had become.

"I believe (al-Sadr) had the idea that he wanted to create a situation in which to disband the Mahdi Army in the southern provinces," al-Araji said. "But what's happened lately caused a mixing of the cards and we returned to square one."

In Sadr City, a day after a U.S. missile strike landed near a major hospital, officials said that the main water supply was badly damaged and the hospital may have to close if it isn't repaired within days.

Sadr Hospital is operating on a backup water supply that wasn't expected to last longer than 48 hours. On May 4, a main street outside the hospital was flooded as workmen tried to repair a series of underground pipes that ruptured when the missiles targeted what U.S. military officials described as a militia outpost a few yards from the hospital.

"If there are no more attacks, we might be able to fix it. We don't know," said a hospital security official who gave his name as Abu Sajjad. "Otherwise, in two days we will run out of water and the hospital can't go on."

The official said that the U.S. strike also damaged 15 ambulances and forced many hospital staff to flee. Not everyone returned to work May 4, leaving a Spartan emergency ward nearly empty of doctors.

The U.S. military said they were unsure when the more than monthlong battle in Sadr City would end. U.S. soldiers are living in abandoned buildings on the edge of the Baghdad district, attempting to build a wall to stem the flow of rockets but are being slowed by sniper fire. Ministry of Interior officials said that 321 persons were killed in Sadr City in April alone, and 834 were injured.

"They are firing at us every single day," said Lt. Col. Steve Stover, spokesman for the Baghdad command. "When it ends is up to the Special Groups," he said referring to Shiite militias.

Also May 4 Iraq's first lady Hiro Talabani survived a roadside bomb attack as she traveled to the National Theatre in Baghdad. Across the capital, mortar and rocket attacks continued. In Mosul, Sarwa Abdul Wahab, a journalist and lawyer, was assassinated.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Most USS Cole Plotters Are Now Free
May 05, 2008
Virginia Pilot
ADEN, Yemen -- Almost eight years after al-Qaida nearly sank the Cole with an explosives-stuffed motorboat, killing 17 sailors, all the defendants convicted in the attack have escaped from prison or been freed by Yemeni officials.

Jamal al-Badawi, a Yemeni who helped organize the plot to bomb the Norfolk-based Cole as it refueled in this Yemeni port on Oct. 12, 2000, has broken out of prison twice. He was recaptured both times but then secretly released by the government last fall. Yemeni authorities jailed him again after receiving complaints from Washington, but U.S. officials have so little faith that he's still in his cell that they have demanded the right to perform random inspections.

Two suspects, described as the key organizers, were captured outside Yemen and are being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, beyond the jurisdiction of U.S. courts. Many details of their alleged involvement remain classified. It is unclear when or if they will be tried by the military.

A week after the Cole bombing, President Clinton vowed to hunt down the plotters and promised, "Justice will prevail." In March 2002, President Bush said his administration was cooperating with Yemen to prevent it from becoming "a haven for terrorists." He added, "Every terrorist must be made to live as an international fugitive with no place to settle or organize, no place to hide, no governments to hide behind and not even a safe place to sleep."

Since then, Yemen has refused to extradite al-Badawi and an accomplice to the United States, where they have been indicted on murder charges. Other Cole conspirators have been freed after short prison terms. At least two went on to commit suicide attacks in Iraq.

"After we worked day and night to bring justice to the victims and prove that these Qaida operatives were responsible, we're back to square one," said Ali Soufan, a former FBI agent and a lead investigator into the bombing. "Do they have laws over there or not? It's really frustrating what's happening."

Al-Qaida trumpets the attack on the Cole as one of its greatest military victories. It remains an improbable story: how two suicide bombers smiled and waved to unsuspecting U.S. sailors in Aden's harbor as they pulled their tiny fishing boat alongside the $1 billion destroyer and blew a gaping hole in its side.

Despite the initial promises of accountability, only limited public inquiries took place in Washington, unlike the extensive investigations that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Basic questions remain about which individuals and countries played a role in the assault on the Cole.

Some officials acknowledged that pursuing the Cole investigation became less of a political priority with the passage of time. A new administration took power three months after the bombing. Then came Sept. 11.

"During the first part of the Bush administration, no one was willing to take ownership of this," said Roger Cressey, a former counterterrorism official in the Clinton and Bush administrations who helped oversee the White House's response to the Cole attack. "It didn't happen on their watch. It was the forgotten attack."

After a long trial, a Yemeni court condemned al-Badawi, the organizer, to death in 2004, though his sentence was reduced on appeal to 15 years in prison. Four other conspirators were given prison sentences ranging from five to 10 years.

The convicts were sent to a maximum security prison in Sanaa, Yemen's capital. They didn't stay there long.

On Feb. 3, 2006, prison officials announced that 23 al-Qaida members, including most of the Cole defendants, had vanished. They escaped by digging a tunnel that snaked 300 feet to a nearby mosque.

It was al-Badawi's second successful jailbreak. Three years earlier, he had wormed out of another maximum security prison in Aden; Yemeni officials said he had picked a hole through the bathroom wall.

Al-Badawi surrendered about 20 months after his second escape. But Yemeni authorities cut him a deal. They said they would let him remain free if he would help them search for the other al-Qaida fugitives.

The arrangement was kept secret until Yemeni newspapers reported shortly afterward that al-Badawi had been spotted at his home in Aden.

U.S. officials said they were stunned. After his first escape, al- Badawi had been indicted in U.S. District Court in New York for the Cole killings, and the United States had posted a $5 million bounty for his capture. But U.S. officials couldn't get their hands on him.

"This was someone who was implicated in the Cole bombing," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said at the time. "He needs to be in jail."

U.S. officials withheld $20 million in aid to Yemen and canceled a visit by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Yemeni officials said they quickly put al-Badawi back behind bars, but reports persist that his incarceration remains a day-to-day affair.

In December, a Yemeni newspaper reported that al-Badawi had again been seen roaming free in public. One source close to the Cole investigation said there is evidence that al-Badawi is allowed to come and go, despite the periodic requests by U.S. officials to inspect his prison cell.

Diplomatic relations soured further in February, when the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa learned that Fahd al-Quso, another Cole conspirator, had been secretly freed nine months before. Like al- Badawi, al-Quso faces U.S. charges in the Cole case and has a $5 million bounty on his head.

U.S. officials have renewed their demands that al-Badawi and al- Quso be extradited so they can stand trial in New York. FBI Director Robert Mueller flew to Sanaa last month to deliver the message personally to Yemen's president, Ali Abdullah Saleh. Yemen has refused, citing a constitutional ban on extraditing its citizens.

"Unfortunately, we now have a stalemate," said Foreign Minister Abubaker al-Qirbi.

Al-Qirbi said the dispute was a politically sensitive one, with many Yemenis opposed to helping the Bush administration. He defended the tactic of allowing the Cole plotters to go free in exchange for help in tracking down other terrorist suspects.

"This is a normal practice," he said. "Everybody makes deals with anybody who cooperates, not just in Yemen, but in the United States."

Yemen's interior minister, Rashad al-Alimi, said the deal- cutting was necessary because al-Qaida has rebuilt its networks in Yemen and is targeting the government.

"Our battle with al-Qaida is a long one," he said. "It isn't our battle only. Our tragedy - and what makes things worse - is that al- Qaida is united. And our coalition is divided, even though we have a common enemy."

Some Yemenis have questioned whether their government has other motives. One senior Yemeni official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Badawi and other al-Qaida members have a long relationship with Yemen's intelligence agencies and were recruited in the past to target political opponents.

Khaled al-Anesi, an attorney for some of the Cole defendants, said Yemen had rushed to convict them. But he said he is still mystified by the government's subsequent handling of the case.

"There's something that doesn't smell right," he said. "It was all very strange. After these people were convicted in unfair trials, all of a sudden it was announced that they had escaped. And then the government announced they had surrendered, but we still don't know how they escaped or if they had help."

Relatives of the 17 sailors who died on the Cole said they are furious at Yemen for releasing the plotters. But they expressed equal disdain for their own government.

The families have fought for years to obtain information from the State, Defense and Justice departments about their inquiries into the attack. "We never really got anyplace," said Andrew Hall, an attorney for the relatives.

With few other options, family members filed a civil lawsuit in 2004 against the government of Sudan, alleging that it had provided support for al-Qaida over the years and therefore was also liable for the Cole attack. In July, a federal judge in Norfolk ruled in their favor and ordered Sudan to pay $7.96 million in damages.

Yemen could not be sued because, unlike Sudan, it is not listed as a state sponsor of terrorism by the State Department.

John Clodtfelter Jr. of Mechanicsville , whose son Kenneth died on the Cole, said the families have tried to meet with President Bush to press for more action.

"I was just flat told that he wouldn't meet with us," Clodtfelter said. "Before him, President Clinton promised we'd go out and get these people, and of course we never did. I'm sorry, but it's just like the lives of American servicemen aren't that important."

Basic questions still remain about which individuals and countries played a role in the 2000 attack.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 9:57 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Most USS Cole Plotters Are Now Free
May 05, 2008
Virginia Pilot
ADEN, Yemen -- Almost eight years after al-Qaida nearly sank the Cole with an explosives-stuffed motorboat, killing 17 sailors, all the defendants convicted in the attack have escaped from prison or been freed by Yemeni officials.

Jamal al-Badawi, a Yemeni who helped organize the plot to bomb the Norfolk-based Cole as it refueled in this Yemeni port on Oct. 12, 2000, has broken out of prison twice. He was recaptured both times but then secretly released by the government last fall. Yemeni authorities jailed him again after receiving complaints from Washington, but U.S. officials have so little faith that he's still in his cell that they have demanded the right to perform random inspections.

Two suspects, described as the key organizers, were captured outside Yemen and are being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, beyond the jurisdiction of U.S. courts. Many details of their alleged involvement remain classified. It is unclear when or if they will be tried by the military.

A week after the Cole bombing, President Clinton vowed to hunt down the plotters and promised, "Justice will prevail." In March 2002, President Bush said his administration was cooperating with Yemen to prevent it from becoming "a haven for terrorists." He added, "Every terrorist must be made to live as an international fugitive with no place to settle or organize, no place to hide, no governments to hide behind and not even a safe place to sleep."

Since then, Yemen has refused to extradite al-Badawi and an accomplice to the United States, where they have been indicted on murder charges. Other Cole conspirators have been freed after short prison terms. At least two went on to commit suicide attacks in Iraq.

"After we worked day and night to bring justice to the victims and prove that these Qaida operatives were responsible, we're back to square one," said Ali Soufan, a former FBI agent and a lead investigator into the bombing. "Do they have laws over there or not? It's really frustrating what's happening."

Al-Qaida trumpets the attack on the Cole as one of its greatest military victories. It remains an improbable story: how two suicide bombers smiled and waved to unsuspecting U.S. sailors in Aden's harbor as they pulled their tiny fishing boat alongside the $1 billion destroyer and blew a gaping hole in its side.

Despite the initial promises of accountability, only limited public inquiries took place in Washington, unlike the extensive investigations that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Basic questions remain about which individuals and countries played a role in the assault on the Cole.

Some officials acknowledged that pursuing the Cole investigation became less of a political priority with the passage of time. A new administration took power three months after the bombing. Then came Sept. 11.

"During the first part of the Bush administration, no one was willing to take ownership of this," said Roger Cressey, a former counterterrorism official in the Clinton and Bush administrations who helped oversee the White House's response to the Cole attack. "It didn't happen on their watch. It was the forgotten attack."

After a long trial, a Yemeni court condemned al-Badawi, the organizer, to death in 2004, though his sentence was reduced on appeal to 15 years in prison. Four other conspirators were given prison sentences ranging from five to 10 years.

The convicts were sent to a maximum security prison in Sanaa, Yemen's capital. They didn't stay there long.

On Feb. 3, 2006, prison officials announced that 23 al-Qaida members, including most of the Cole defendants, had vanished. They escaped by digging a tunnel that snaked 300 feet to a nearby mosque.

It was al-Badawi's second successful jailbreak. Three years earlier, he had wormed out of another maximum security prison in Aden; Yemeni officials said he had picked a hole through the bathroom wall.

Al-Badawi surrendered about 20 months after his second escape. But Yemeni authorities cut him a deal. They said they would let him remain free if he would help them search for the other al-Qaida fugitives.

The arrangement was kept secret until Yemeni newspapers reported shortly afterward that al-Badawi had been spotted at his home in Aden.

U.S. officials said they were stunned. After his first escape, al- Badawi had been indicted in U.S. District Court in New York for the Cole killings, and the United States had posted a $5 million bounty for his capture. But U.S. officials couldn't get their hands on him.

"This was someone who was implicated in the Cole bombing," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said at the time. "He needs to be in jail."

U.S. officials withheld $20 million in aid to Yemen and canceled a visit by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Yemeni officials said they quickly put al-Badawi back behind bars, but reports persist that his incarceration remains a day-to-day affair.

In December, a Yemeni newspaper reported that al-Badawi had again been seen roaming free in public. One source close to the Cole investigation said there is evidence that al-Badawi is allowed to come and go, despite the periodic requests by U.S. officials to inspect his prison cell.

Diplomatic relations soured further in February, when the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa learned that Fahd al-Quso, another Cole conspirator, had been secretly freed nine months before. Like al- Badawi, al-Quso faces U.S. charges in the Cole case and has a $5 million bounty on his head.

U.S. officials have renewed their demands that al-Badawi and al- Quso be extradited so they can stand trial in New York. FBI Director Robert Mueller flew to Sanaa last month to deliver the message personally to Yemen's president, Ali Abdullah Saleh. Yemen has refused, citing a constitutional ban on extraditing its citizens.

"Unfortunately, we now have a stalemate," said Foreign Minister Abubaker al-Qirbi.

Al-Qirbi said the dispute was a politically sensitive one, with many Yemenis opposed to helping the Bush administration. He defended the tactic of allowing the Cole plotters to go free in exchange for help in tracking down other terrorist suspects.

"This is a normal practice," he said. "Everybody makes deals with anybody who cooperates, not just in Yemen, but in the United States."

Yemen's interior minister, Rashad al-Alimi, said the deal- cutting was necessary because al-Qaida has rebuilt its networks in Yemen and is targeting the government.

"Our battle with al-Qaida is a long one," he said. "It isn't our battle only. Our tragedy - and what makes things worse - is that al- Qaida is united. And our coalition is divided, even though we have a common enemy."

Some Yemenis have questioned whether their government has other motives. One senior Yemeni official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Badawi and other al-Qaida members have a long relationship with Yemen's intelligence agencies and were recruited in the past to target political opponents.

Khaled al-Anesi, an attorney for some of the Cole defendants, said Yemen had rushed to convict them. But he said he is still mystified by the government's subsequent handling of the case.

"There's something that doesn't smell right," he said. "It was all very strange. After these people were convicted in unfair trials, all of a sudden it was announced that they had escaped. And then the government announced they had surrendered, but we still don't know how they escaped or if they had help."

Relatives of the 17 sailors who died on the Cole said they are furious at Yemen for releasing the plotters. But they expressed equal disdain for their own government.

The families have fought for years to obtain information from the State, Defense and Justice departments about their inquiries into the attack. "We never really got anyplace," said Andrew Hall, an attorney for the relatives.

With few other options, family members filed a civil lawsuit in 2004 against the government of Sudan, alleging that it had provided support for al-Qaida over the years and therefore was also liable for the Cole attack. In July, a federal judge in Norfolk ruled in their favor and ordered Sudan to pay $7.96 million in damages.

Yemen could not be sued because, unlike Sudan, it is not listed as a state sponsor of terrorism by the State Department.

John Clodtfelter Jr. of Mechanicsville , whose son Kenneth died on the Cole, said the families have tried to meet with President Bush to press for more action.

"I was just flat told that he wouldn't meet with us," Clodtfelter said. "Before him, President Clinton promised we'd go out and get these people, and of course we never did. I'm sorry, but it's just like the lives of American servicemen aren't that important."

Basic questions still remain about which individuals and countries played a role in the 2000 attack.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 9:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Troops mass as attack on Mosul looms
By Abdulhussain al-Khurafi

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05 May 2008 (Azzaman)
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The government is massing troops for an imminent attack on the northern city of Mosul, the interior minister said.

The minister Jawad al-Bolani said the government has deployed “elite units” in the city, home to nearly three million people and currently one of the most violent places in the country.

U.S. troops will assist with aerial bombardment, logistics and artillery. U.S. marines will intervene if necessary.

The battle to overtake Mosul is billed as the ‘last’ major offensive Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki intends to launch to bring the country under control.

Mosul is now a bastion of al-Qaeda whose fighters have been under extreme pressure from the so-called Sahwa (Awakening) Council, a newly formed militia of Sunni tribesmen financed by the U.S., in other Sunni-dominated areas.

Bolani said the troops sent to calm down Basra were being redeployed in Mosul.

Analysts say the battle for Mosul is expected to be one of the bloodiest since the 2003 U.S. invasion.

Mosul is a mixed city. Though predominantly Sunni Arab, it holds sizeable communities of Kurds, Christians, Shebeks and Yezidis.

“The battles in Basra are over. The armed forces and police have completed their preparedness for the battle of Mosul. The Qaeda gangs and criminals face dark future there,” the minister warned.

He predicted the attack to be swift with minimum damage and casualties.

But the analysts expected a long and difficult ‘street-to-street and house-to-house’ fight as the city is almost completely under the Qaeda and other forces resisting U.S. occupation.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 10:01 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi Sadr bloc adopts law cases against Iraqi gov''t

Politics 5/5/2008 12:05:00 AM



BAGHDAD, May 4 (KUNA) -- Sadr bloc party adopted on Sunday a set of legal cases against the Iraqi government for victims of military confrontation in Sadr city in Baghdad.
Saleh Al-Okaili, a spokesman for the bloc in the Iraqi parliament, told KUNA "the Iraqi government rejected all peaceful solutions and adopted a military confrontation solution." "The government is also attempting to pressure citizens in Sadr city to depart and is currently settling refugee camps amid a continuous air strikes campaign," Al-Okaili added.
The spokesman also noted that there are tribal figures from Al-Ramadi, Faluja, Baqouba and other places who will attempt to reach Sadr city next Monday to start a ceasefire initiative against military operations here. (end) mhg.mb KUNA 050005 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 10:06 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I must confess that I have caught some of Rogers pessimism regarding the movement in Iraq. This morning I saw where the offical exchange rate has dropped to 1201. This may not be enough to shake the doldrums.

I also read a piece concerning real estate development inside the green zone. The artist renderings shows a thriving metropolis. I heard the talk of this type of development has began to increase real estate prices in Baghdad.

While the CBI continues its managed rate a pip here and a pip there the big picture for Iraq continues to look bright. I believe the HCLs passage will begin to move us in the direction we are all hoping for.

Instead of focusing on the slow movement, we have to keep our eyes on long term outlook for the country. A peaceful and prosperous Iraq can only mean we reap a great reward.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 12:09 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Oil reserves occupy half the area of Iraq

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5-05-08

D. Ibrahim Bahr Al-Aloom: Oil reserves occupy half the area of Iraq
Dependent characters accuse the ministries of favoritism and factionalism in the selection of Iraqi embassies Supplements
Five billion dollars to build the city of casinos and resorts in the Green Zone

Citizen - and agencies - Secretary Amar
Dr. Ibrahim Bahr Al-Aloom, former oil minister said that about 230 - 250 billion barrels of oil reserves is uncertain in Iraq and comprehensive look at this huge storage it gives an indication that occupies half the area of the country. He agreed with the introduction of Dr. Barham Salih, Deputy Prime Minister on reservists Expected from Iraqi oil, but that there is high confidence the possibility of future expansion of the Qinghai especially in the areas of the Western Sahara from Anbar province of Basra to the south and the island from Anbar to Mosul in the north area includes 65 exploratory constitute a vast area Say counterparts in other States. Conveying that Patches of these processes require intensive exploration and large movements in order to transform this reserve-proven to be uncertain. He continued that the strength of Sea Sciences commensurate with the country's power reserve of energy, especially oil and actual market commensurate with the productive power of that problem in Iraq, we are focused on the possession of surplus production as In the case of Saudi Arabia, which owns 1.5 million barrels of production. He called on relevant agencies to seek to achieve the important steps and re-investment company and develop national oil production capacity so that it can reach the ambitious scheme has produced 5 - 6 million barrels per day in addition to lifting The level of production of natural gas. He stressed that this ambition needs to be cadres of technical and engineering of new and administrative procedures faster.

He noted the Sea of Sciences to the need for Iraq to escalate its production through the drilling of wells and the rehabilitation and the system of export and create the infrastructure damaged during the past three decades and had no landing In refining and energy shortages 30 thousand barrels a descending in total production since the past few years for reasons specific to the processing of crude oil refineries and oil stock issues and administrative matters, all need to pause for a serious upgrade energy.

For his part, accused the official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and other ministries in the government, how favoritism in the selection of attachments commercial, cultural, military or others, explaining that the Foreign Ministry is not concerned with appointments made in Almlhkiet abroad. He said Undersecretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, however, dependent characters, "that" Almlhkiet Whatever kind, are needed according to the state, and the ministry concerned, to facilitate their work and their links with the State where the Protocols, "noting that" Almlhkiet trade with countries that need our commercial relations with the sophisticated side of the embassy and its activities. "He pointed out that" the choice of these Protocols Trading must be done according to criteria and bases far from favoritism, and kinship, and sectarianism. "Dependent characters and stressed that" at the opening Supplement commercial, military or healthy looking with the Ministry of Foreign embassies abroad, and the State concerned on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, the need for the actual existence of such These Almlhkiet, "adding that" the problem lies in the fact that the Foreign Ministry is not concerned with the appointment thereto, but appointed by other ministries of higher education, trade, health, culture, defence and others. "'s Deputy Foreign Ministry, said" these appointments are not dependent On the basis of objective criteria, or professional, "noting it was" linked to the actual current reality in Iraq, what has caused many complaints because, the Foreign Ministry tried to solve but to no avail. "Revealed dependent characters," on "requests from the Ministry of Commerce to open business in five Mlhkiet A number of States did not identify, in addition to requests for cultural Mlhkiet in other countries.

"But he pointed out that" every ministry is working as if the State Government itself, there is no center manages this process to see the need, and form these appointments, and choices, and the connection Status of state until the completion of the institutional problems to deal with this in turn sources said American and international sources that had been developing a plan at a cost of five billion dollars aimed at converting the Green Zone, which is currently stationed where most U.S. and Iraqi facilities in Baghdad, surrounded by fencing under the protection of heavily armed soldiers, to Investment and trade center will be the future backbone of the Iraqi economy. The sources revealed that hotel groups such as the "Marriott" and investment companies such as Saudi Arabia is planning to MBI projects in the region currently, but the informed views stated that the Iraqi government views with concern the file, and look towards a reduction of American influence it. Sources said the plan has the support of the U.S. Department of Defense will bring to the region finest resorts, best brands, including away from the mind pictures of missiles pouring down on the region almost daily, making it an oasis for the Advancement of Baghdad along the lines of cities boomed after the war, such as Sarajevo and Beirut.

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-- May 5, 2008 3:00 PM



cornishboy wrote:

House of Representatives is expected to refer decisions (5 April) to activate the form of legislation

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three important laws to parliament this week


معات House of Representatives is expected to refer decisions (5 April) to activate the form of legislation
بغح BAGHDAD - Al Sabah
يعمقبل، Before the House this week a number of important laws to be discussed and voted upon, most notably the discussion of the election law and ideas that were raised when in order to facilitate the holding of provincial assemblies early next October,


واقرارل ايام. The adoption of amendments agreed between the political forces of law dismissed politicians, is awaiting the law of oil and gas blocs of political talks ended after the government make adjustments and access to the Parliament a few days ago.
في (اتفاقتشريعات. Meanwhile, parliamentary sources said the coming period will witness the activation of the political decisions of the Council for National Security (agreement on April 5), in the House of Representatives by translating the recommendations into laws and legislation.
قاي . The decision of the House of Representatives Mohammed Mahdi Al-Bayati told of the "morning" that the Parliament had "acknowledged that the law dismissed by the politicians, but there are some amendments put forward by some committees because of its great importance to the important segment of the Iraqi people suffered in a time The first expulsion of marginalization and exclusion, "pointing to the existence of an agreement on some amendments, the law will be introduced Tuesday or Wednesday next, after several amendments related to the interests of separated in order to undermine each separated his right hand or the appointment of monthly earned result of the government Years of detention or expulsion.
ت Oil and gas legislation
وب . He said there are some important laws ready and awaiting the House of Representatives to vote or discussion, agreement was made by the Cabinet and Parliament, especially as some delayed more than the time required, explaining that "the law of oil and gas after it was returned to the Cabinet because of some differences in By the leaders of the bloc have been many changes from the government and is now in the possession of the Parliament for discussion, it is legally important for Iraq and its economy and its future ", indicating that it would undoubtedly soon after the first and second reading to him, but he did not specify a date for discussion hidden and certainly that the law Arrived in the House of Representatives.
وكاالعفود. The parliament has approved last February three important laws in one go, namely: the state general budget and a law of amnesty and elections for provincial assemblies and then returned this step a major achievement that opens a new page of reconstruction and the political consensus in the new Iraq.
مبا . The statement pointed out that the electoral law will be raised at a meeting the day after tomorrow, Tuesday, and discussed by the competent committees and members of the House, especially as the law of provincial assemblies identified the first of October, the date for the holding of provincial assemblies, since it without a law can not hold elections.
وكان ودي. The Council of Ministers has issued last month, a draft law on election of provincial and district councils and respects according to the latest amendments, and that the draft law aims to organize elections in a fair and impartial to all provincial and district councils and wards so that these elections will be democratic and transparent, as revealed by government spokesman Dr. Ali Skinner, that the bill will open the existing method that allows voters to choose a candidate from within the electoral lists, according to the individual nomination.
ورمقبلة . He explained that the decision of the House of Representatives tabled in Parliament contains no discussion of the delegation's visit to Iran since the coalition issue with the coalition, particularly after the transfer of some files delegation to Tehran on the security situation and the nature of the events taking place in Iraq from security operations against armed and law-breakers, but it However: "If asked members of parliament to discuss the matter could be discussed in parliament," adding that the committee set up by Parliament and private Sadr City still exist and exercise their role is scheduled to submit its report to the House of Representatives to discuss topics related to some hot topics, as they -- Committee - raised some questions about her visit to Sadr City and Basra and other matters will be discussed during the coming days.
تفعيل مقررت. In the meantime Hassan al-Shamri said Deputy Prime bloc in parliament Virtue: The coming period will witness a referral decisions of the political council of national security to the House of Representatives to convert them into legislation and laws, and confer legitimacy on these recommendations.
وكيع. The Political Council for National Security has issued a recent statement from the 15-item nationally, in the forefront, calling for solution of all militias and disarming and restructuring of the Government of National Unity, the elimination of all judicial organizations illegal, and quickly amend the constitution and condemning outside interference. ـ . He told Al Shammari "Sabah" that the Council's work focuses on the political situation Strutejiat national, as the country's politicians and heads of parliamentary blocs are Shapers him, noting that the Council's decisions will be transferred to parliament for consideration and approval in the form of legislation and laws. For his part, said the Kurdistan Alliance member Mohsen Al - : The decisions of the political council was positive, and endorsed by most of the parliamentary blocs and acceptance. Sadoun stressed in a statement to "Al Sabah" was important to make those decisions through laws making it to be voted upon within the House of Representatives, to be bound by execution, calling the presidency of the political council to send recommendations In the form of a draft law to be legislation in parliament and work out.http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

-- May 5, 2008 3:08 PM


Anonymous wrote:

-- May 5, 2008 3:12 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq Press Roundup

Published: May 5, 2008 at 1:39 PM
By HIBA DAWOOD
UPI Correspondent
In its editorial, the daily Al Sabah newspaper highlighted Monday the role neighboring counties should play in improving Iraq's security, leading to an economic, social and political revival.

With the title "The significant role Iraq's neighbors can play," the editorial said the conference in Kuwait -- attended by major international powers, ministries of 23 countries, foreign ministers of neighboring countries, five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and six Gulf countries -- was the first of its kind.

"In spite of the improvement of the security in Baghdad and other cities, the government's attempt to force the law using Iraqi security and intelligence forces, and its control over the borders, the conference's final statement focused on old issues unrelated to the current security situation," it said.

The paper said that after the successful "march for democracy" in Iraq, there is no need for statements as much as there is a need for real action on opening embassies of, specifically, Arab countries in Iraq.

"Iraq is being accused of being open only to Iran as the latter opened its embassy and consulates in Iraq, but the fact is none of the other countries has made an effort to be present in Iraq," it said.

Al Sabah said it is of importance Arab countries, especially Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, realize it is in their interest to open embassies and offices of representation in Iraq.

The editorial also urged neighboring countries to stop all financial and media support to terrorists, gangs and former Saddamists who want to destabilize Iraq and accuse the Iraqi government of being loyal to Iran.

The editorial also encouraged neighboring countries to support the Iraqi government's efforts in enforcing the law to dissolve Sunnis and Shiite militias, and ensure weapons are in the hands of the state only.

"When clashes in Basra took place, the neighboring countries … gave the media a role to express their view, which contradicted the Iraqi government's goals," it said.

Al Sabah criticized Kuwaiti authorities as they, at the conference, focused on the 5 percent of oil revenue to be given as compensation for the Saddam Hussein-led invasion of Kuwait.

"When that agreement was signed with the old Iraqi government, oil was $50 a barrel whereas now oil has exceeded double that price, a fact that gives Iraq the right to demand a review of the agreement," it said.

The fact Iraq focuses on one aspect of the situation while other countries demand different aspects makes such meetings predictable, it said. The paper said Iraq needs solidarity from Arab countries, Turkey and Iran as Iraq realizes the positive role these countries can play in stabilizing the entire region.http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Emerging_Threats/Analysis/2008/05/05/iraq_press_roundup/8278/


-- May 5, 2008 3:16 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Concerning the National ID Card coming in only 15 months!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GonYKvUi5tQ&feature=related

-- May 5, 2008 6:15 PM


Sara wrote:

In Iraq, a storm before the calm
By Michael Yon
Monday, May 5th 2008

April saw 49 U.S. casualties in Iraq, the highest total in seven months. Does this mean, as some insist, that the enormous progress we have made since the start of the military surge is being lost?

As one who has spent nearly two years with American soldiers and Marines and British Army troops in Iraq - having returned from my last trip a month ago - here's my short answer: no.

We are taking more casualties now, just as we did in the first part of 2007, because we have taken up the next crucial challenge of this war: confronting the Shia militias.

In early 2007, under the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, we began to wage an effective counterinsurgency campaign against the reign of terror Al Qaeda in Iraq had established over much of the midsection of the country. That campaign, which moved many of our troops off of big centralized bases and out into small neighborhood outposts, carried real risks.

In every one of the first eight months of 2007, we lost more soldiers than we had the previous year. Only as the campaign bore fruit - in the form of Iraqi citizens working with American soldiers on a daily basis, helping uncover terrorist hideouts together - did the casualty numbers begin to improve.

Now we are helping the Iraqis deal with a much different problem: the Shia militias, the most well-known of which is "Jaysh al-Mahdi," known as JAM, largely controlled by Moqtada al-Sadr.

To comprehend our strategy here, we need to understand the goals of these militias, which pundits, politicians and the press all too often gloss over. Al Qaeda's aim was to destroy Iraq in civil war. Allegedly devout Muslims, the terrorist savages were willing to rape, murder and pillage their own people just as long as they could catch America in the middle. One reason Al Qaeda in Iraq can regenerate so quickly, despite being hated by most Iraqis, is that, armed with generous funding from outside Iraq, they mostly recruit young men and boys from Iraqi street gangs, giving them money, guns and drugs.

In contrast, JAM and the other Shia militias do not want to destroy Iraq; they want power in the new Iraq. They did not, for the most part, start out as criminal gangs, but as self-defense organizations protecting Shia neighborhoods from the chaos of post-invasion Iraq, including Al Qaeda.

Because the militias are strong, well-organized and long had deep support among the population, and because their goal is political power, not random destruction, some have argued that we should have nothing to do with taking them on. They predict a bloody and futile campaign that would make us once again enemies of the Iraqi people rather than their defenders.

These critics miss a crucial on-the-ground reality: Virtually all insurgencies, however noble their original purpose, eventually degenerate into criminal organizations, classic Mafia-like protection rackets, especially as they achieve their original goals.

With Al Qaeda mostly wiped out of Baghdad, the militias that once defended Shia neighborhoods now prey on them. In Basra to the south, where al Qaeda always feared to tread, the situation is even worse. Practically speaking, that city has been ruled by an uneasy coalition of rival Shia gangs for years.

The great victory of the past year and a half has been the decision of Sunni citizens to turn against Sunni outlaws. Now, neither we nor the Iraqi government can maintain our credibility with the Sunni if the Shia militias are allowed to remain outside the law.

The militias, unlike Al Qaeda, are not insane; we can negotiate with them. But we and the Iraqi government can only capitalize on the shifting sentiments of the Shia neighborhoods if we first demonstrate that we and the government - not the gangs - control the streets.

That means, for the next few months, expect more blood, casualties and grim images of war. This may lead to a shift in the political debate inside the United States and more calls for rapid withdrawal. But on the ground in Iraq, it's a sign of progress.

- Yon is an independent reporter and blogger (michaelyon-online.com). His new book is "Moment of Truth in Iraq."By Michael Yon

Comments:

1) philmon

Wow... so 49 casualties in a month, up from anywhere from 23-40 ... this constitutes "spiraling" casualties. One wonders how people would have described single-day body counts during WWII? According to this guy, when Al-Sadr calls off a cease-fire, they up the body count rate by about one person every two days. Wow, that Sadr guy' just unstoppable! Better tuck tail and head home!

2) saha

(Some comments) make a disgusting attempt to make the US sound like a ruthless warmonger with callous disregard for human life. The U.S. does not carpet bomb cities in Iraq. Was the US in position to employ a counterinsurgency in Dresden? Do you understand the concept of "total war" that was employed by all sides in WWII? It sounds like you agree with Reverend Wright's version of "history".

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/05/05/2008-05-05_in_iraq_a_storm_before_the_calm.html

-- May 5, 2008 6:16 PM


Sara wrote:

US, Shi'a Militiamen clash in Baghdad
May 05 2008

Baghdad - At least ten people were killed in overnight fighting between American forces and Shi'a militiamen in Baghdad, six of them in Sadr City, the US military said on Monday.

The US military said six Shi'a militiamen were killed in Sadr City and four in Mansur, a mainly Sunni district of west Baghdad.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Middle&set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=nw20080505125429396C286378

-- May 5, 2008 6:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq Says It Has Proof Of Iranian Meddling
Tehran Funneling Weapons, Officials Say
By Amit R. Paley
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 5, 2008; Page A10

BAGHDAD, May 4 -- The Iraqi government said Sunday that it has "concrete evidence" Iran is fomenting violence in Iraq and that a high-level panel had been formed to document the proof.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh called reporters late Sunday night to clarify remarks he made at a news conference earlier in the day, when he appeared to say that there was no hard evidence that Iran was allowing weapons to come into Iraq. Dabbagh said his comments had been misinterpreted.

"There is an interference and evidence that they have interfered in Iraqi affairs," Dabbagh said in an interview arranged by a U.S. official. When asked how he would characterize the proof that Iranian weapons are flowing into Iraq, he said: "It is a concrete evidence."

The U.S. government has long accused Iran of providing the powerful roadside bombs known as explosively formed penetrators to Shiite militiamen who attack American troops. Iran has denied any such role.

Dabbagh said that after Maliki launched an offensive last month in the southern city of Basra, weapons were found that were clearly produced in Iran.

"The truth came out; there is evidence of Iranian weapons in Iraq," he said. "Now we need to document who sent them."

Dabbagh said the high-level committee was formed three days ago and includes officials from the Interior and Defense Ministries.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/04/AR2008050401738.html?hpid=moreheadlines

-- May 5, 2008 7:02 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama’s Buddy, Bill Ayers Stomping the American Flag
By John Stephenson
May 5, 2008

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqERY59

There is a huge blogswarm going on about this photo, from Chicago Magazine, of Obama's unrepentant terrorist associate, Bill Ayers stomping on the American flag. The photo was taken in 2001, the same time Barack Obama served on the Woods Fund Board with Ayers. This was also the same time that Ayers donated to Obama's campaign.

Marathon Pundit has similar photo, and many political bloggers are saying it long past due for Obama to disown his association with this controversial radical.

The question that remains is, will the media pick this up or will they write it off as old news? Its worthy of recycling this to further probe into Obama's judgement, the one thing he says he should be measured by.

Photo credit: Jeff Sciortino for Chicago Magazine.

Comments

1) He stomps on the flag by mjg

He stomps on the flag and hates America. He sounds a lot like the reverend.

2) However, by DEVILDOCMOM

However, the "smart, educated pool of voters" (see NB story above) referred to by the nbc reporterette will probably not care. After all, it really does not mean bho has poor judgement...! He is for change.

3) I'm sure if we knuckle by Chris Norman

I'm sure if we knuckle dragging conservatives took the time to give this nuanced thought, if we read between the lines, and delved into the complex intricacies of Ayers, we would fully understand and respect his stomping the American flag. I, for one, am going to heed the moderate and sage advise of Bill Moyers, and give this one some sophisticated thought...hmmm...no, Ayers is still an anti-American terrorist.

4) America! by okiehawk44

Ayers, get off my flag.

5) Yes, a true patriot he is by SickofLibs

Yes, a true patriot he is. How could you and I could ever care as much as him?

6) There implodes another Obama by ahusser

There implodes another Obama nominee for a cabinet position. Ayers probably was up for Sec. Defense, Dohrn for State and Wright for HUD

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/05/05/obama-s-buddy-bill-ayers-stomping-american-flag

-- May 5, 2008 7:43 PM


Sara wrote:

In seeking to understand this man Obama..
This is the BEST explanation for his viewpoints I have ever encountered.
Worth a look!
QUOTE:

Obama is a typical passive-aggressive personality who pretends to be a nice guy by using fuzzy language and a let’s-all-get-together mantra to seduce his acolytes, but who relies on his surrogates – wifey, minister, terrorist endorsements, et al – to express his real agenda..

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Obama's Psyche
By Joan Swirsky
MichNews.com
May 5, 2008

We all know of people who make strange choices, but what about those who make self-defeating choices over and over and over again, so magnetized are they by spouses (and others) who are bad for them? The woman who marries a drunk, then a gambler, then a philanderer – the man who marries a gold digger, then a nag, then an iceberg.

Time after time, this type ends up with a variation on an off-note theme, while friends and colleagues shake their heads and remark, “But he’s so smart…she’s so experienced.”

That seems to be the universal reaction to last week’s near-implosion of Sen. Barack Obama presidential campaign, which left him the daunting challenge of explaining to a mystified electorate why his soft-spoken, non-combative, let’s-get-beyond-race-and-anger agenda has been threatened-cum-sabotaged by the people he is most attracted to.

His archrival Hillary doesn’t have this problem. After decades in the public eye, the electorate is never surprised to learn about yet another unsavory character, shady deal, or questionable legality.

But the seemingly idealistic Obama – who says he stands for “hope” and “change” – has now run into a firewall of opposition. Why?

WHO HATES OBAMA?

Not the American electorate, which in caucuses and primaries over the last many months has awarded him a majority of popular and electoral votes.

Not young people, ages 18 to 45, who have turned out in unprecedented numbers – into the multimillions – to register to vote and who have actually voted for him! This is remarkable given that in every election cycle Democrats have spent zillions to get out the youth vote, but always failed.

Not Independent voters who are turning out in record number to vote for the Illinois senator.

Not the leftwing media whose members have embraced his candidacy with both giddy enthusiasm and undisguised passion.

Not moneybags (like George Soros) and the Socialist and Marxist campus intellectuals who have jumped on the Obamessiah bandwagon.

SO WHO DOES HATE OBAMA?

Which people have so drastically derailed the Obama juggernaut over the past few weeks? We would never have known about any of them if the liberal media had been successful in concealing what they’ve known for years. Thanks only to conservative journalists and pundits were these liberal shills dragged kicking and screaming out of their closets and forced to expose the other “close” relationships Obama has had in both his personal and political life.

Exhibit No. 2 (No. 1 to follow): None other than Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the man Obama has considered for over 20 years his trusted and valued “friend” and “spiritual” inspiration.

As Ben Wallace-Wells reminds us in Rolling Stone, Obama chose this minister and his church very carefully. He “could have picked any church – the spare, spiritual places in Hyde Park, the awesome pomp and procession of the cathedrals downtown. He could have picked a mosque, for that matter, or even a synagogue. Obama chose Trinity United. He picked Jeremiah Wright. Obama writes in his autobiography that on the day he chose this church, he felt the spirit of black memory and history moving through Wright, and `felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams.’"

That was then. Last week, Rev. Wright – bristling at the young upstart’s audacity to go public in distancing himself from his pastor’s egregious anti-American, anti-Semitic, and blatantly racist pronouncements – seized the moment of Obama’s upcoming primaries in Indiana and North Carolina to speak his mind to PBS’s Bill Moyers and the National Press Club. As Daniel Henninger noted in the Wall St. Journal, “the angry and antic prophet Jeremiah rose to smite him.”

The result: effectively to implant Obama’s feet in concrete, the better to deep-six his chance to win the presidency.

The day after Wright’s sabotage, Newt Gingrich told an interviewer that the recently- retired leader of Chicago’s Trinity Church "went out of his way to weaken Obama...I think Reverend Wright has a greater interest in his self-importance."

But Geoffrey P. Hunt of The American Thinker thought otherwise. It was “for a more cynical reason than ego-preservation…[but for] keeping the pledge payments flowing and collection plates full. Wright's root agenda, in perfect alignment with the far-left Democratic Party politics of indignation, has been to capitalize on the misfortunes of others, to stoke both race and class resentment, offer a platform and voice pipe for the permanently aggrieved all to fill his own coffers.”

The reverend’s “worst nightmare,” Hunt adds, “would be Barack Obama as president…because [Wright’s] raison d'etre would evaporate.”

Now for Exhibit No. 1: Obama’s wifey Michelle, who told a crowd in Milwaukee, “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.” Michelle also poured out how “bitter” she was toward America in her Princeton thesis. And proving that an acid nature doesn’t sweeten over time, she told one interviewer that Obama “had bad breath in the morning,” and informed the crowd at a fundraiser in Feb. 2007: "I have some difficulty reconciling the two images I have of Barack Obama. There's the phenomenon…and then there's the Barack Obama that lives with me in my house, and that guy's a little less impressive."

I think it’s safe to say that Exhibit No. 1 and Exhibit 2 – the two most powerfully influential people in Obama’s life – are not on his side!

Okay, you may say, everyone has a few bad apples in their “circles.” A few maybe, but not a bushel!

We have also learned of Obama’s not-so-casual relationship with the indicted Chicago “fixer” Tony Rezko, and a laundry list of associates who openly hate America, among them domestic terrorist William Ayers, and the official blogger of his campaign, Sam Graham-Felsen.

Then there are the America-hating groups and people who endorsed him: Hamas, the Black Panther Party, and the Marxist president of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega, as well as Obama fundraiser Rashid Khalidi, a “confessed domestic terrorist,” according to Aaron Klein of WorldNetDaily.

Why is it that the mild-mannered, seemingly non-combative Obama is attracted to such a large number of America haters? And why does he inspire them to give him their passionate allegiance, their enthusiastic endorsements, and their barrels full of money?

INSIDE OBAMA’S PSYCHE

A caller to a radio show recently theorized that mixed-race "mulattos" like Obama are resentful that while they're half-white, they always come out black. They can never take advantage of their white half because while the black community accepts them, the white community doesn’t.

I’d say this is a legitimate reason for anger, probably the same rage that fuels Rev. Wright, given that he is clearly of “mixed” parentage.

The result, others theorize, is anger at the white parent (or grandparent) – or their symbols, like big bad America – which is probably why Obama wrote in his book “Dreams of My Father: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, which I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

When he was questioned about Rev. Wright’s racist statements, Obama initially replied: “I can no more disown [him] than I can disown my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

Asked to explain this totally weird comparison – 20 years of hearing his pastor’s racist rants vs. his grandmother’s one-time confession – Obama replied that his grandmother was a “typical white person.”

Conclusion: Obama defends the indefensible, embraces those who say the indefensible, and trashes the people who love him.

Why? Because the indefensible crowd speaks for him! It is not in Obama’s nature to be aggressive and confrontational, insulting or hurtful, vicious or adversarial. But all of these traits are clearly in his heart and soul and psyche! Why else would he defend them?

Obama is a typical passive-aggressive personality who pretends to be a nice guy by using fuzzy language and a let’s-all-get-together mantra to seduce his acolytes, but who relies on his surrogates – wifey, minister, terrorist endorsements, et al – to express his real agenda, i.e., getting back! But getting back at whom?

My theory is that Obama wants to “get back” at all those evil capitalists and racist entities that robbed his Marxist mother, father, and stepfather of the respect he thought they deserved. According to the writer Spengler in a riveting L.A. Times article, both his wife and mother “reveal his secret: he hates America.”

HE HATES AMERICA?

That’s crazy, you may say. But it does raise the question of how anyone could love this country and want what both Obama and Hillary – with few variations – have promised:

- A white-flag surrender in Iraq and de facto capitulation to the radical Islamists intent on destroying our way of life. Obama even told the AP that, “preventing genocide is not a sufficient reason to keep American troops in Iraq.”

- The nomination of federal, appellate, and Supreme Court judges who will legislate from the bench and are in line with his stated philosophy that the U.S. Constitution is a “living document” that must be interpreted in the context of the times.

- Weakening America’s military, including, among other things, making defense cuts during war time, cutting spending on national missile defense, refusing to weaponize space, slowing development of future combat systems, and seeking a "world without nuclear weapons.”

- Maintaining his 100-percent approval rating from NARAL by supporting abortion on demand with the same vigor he opposed notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions and the ban on partial birth abortions.

- Handing $845 billion of U.S. taxpayer money to other nations to realize his Global Poverty Act.

- Pushing for sky-high taxes.

- Adding nearly $900 billion to the budget of new, big-government programs over his first term in office.

- Supporting de facto amnesty for illegal aliens, as well as awarding them drivers’ licenses, welfare, Medicaid and participation in Social Security.

- Continued opposition to making English our national language.

- Across-the-board gun control.

- Spending billions on the colossal hoax known as man-made global warming.

Come to think of it, the political philosophies of both Obama and Hillary echo those of all lefties. But where were all these like-minded people when Obama was flailing last week, desperately trying to stanch his fast-ebbing support in Indiana and North Carolina?

In an ominous report, Daniel Henninger remarked: “At Barack Obama's darkest hour, not one prominent ally came forward to support him. Everyone abandoned Everyman.”

No prominent black clergyman came forth…[but] Rev. Wright, now written off as a virtual nut case, got more support from black clergymen than did Obama.”

His famous endorsers vanished from the scene. Henninger lists them: Jesse Jackson, Ted Kennedy, Oprah, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, Patrick Leahy, Tom Daschle, Amy Klobuchar, Claire McCaskill, Jay Rockefeller, John Lewis, Toni Morrison, Roger Wilkins, Eric Holder, Robert Reich, Ted Sorenson, Alice Walker, David Wilhelm, Cornel West, Clifford Alexander, Donald McHenry, Patricia Wald, Newton Minow/

No big-city mayors in Obama’s camp spoke out in his defense: Chicago's Richard Daley, Cleveland's Frank Reynolds, Atlanta's Shirley Franklin, Washington's Adrian Fenty, Newark's Cory Booker, Baltimore's Sheila Dixon.

“Any major op-ed page would have stopped the presses to print a statement of support from Ted Kennedy or such for the senator,” Henninger says. “None appeared.”

Henninger explains that, “Everyone has become used to watching celebrity stars and athletes take it in the neck on their own. Even someone running for the nation's presidency looks like just another personal crack-up.”

But To The Point’s Dr. Jack Wheeler explains it better. “If you could bring the playwrights of Ancient Greece – Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides, Aristophanes – from 5th century Athens to watch the Democrat primary race of today, they would recognize it instantly. It is a perfect Greek tragedy...nothing could be more blindingly obvious…any possible hope of Obama being elected president of the United States has been obliterated by his madman pastor.”

I still think that Obama will win the nomination. And I still hope America is smart enough not to elect him. This ambitious young man needs a few more years to plumb and purge his rage-infested psyche, get rid of the people-baggage who continue to sabotage him, read up on American history, and move to the middle.

Then we’ll talk!

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20182.shtml

-- May 5, 2008 8:04 PM


cornishboy wrote:

ZUCKER TAKES ON THE IRAQ STUDY GROUP AND JAMES BAKER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w77sLtz754

-- May 5, 2008 8:28 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- May 5, 2008 8:40 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- May 5, 2008 8:56 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Amero Coin Goodbye America.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ3F-bZs1hk&feature=related

-- May 5, 2008 9:09 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Cornishboy:

Sorry, America is not done yet. The Amero will not see the light of day. I do not believe even with an American and Canadian alliance that these countries can absorb the wretched Mexican economy.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 5, 2008 9:28 PM


cornishboy wrote:

I hope your rite rob.

-- May 5, 2008 9:40 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I mentioned earlier a plan to make Baghdad a thriving metropolis. This metropolis includes a skate park scheduled to open in July of 2008 and a Disney type park. Folks, hold on to those Dinars. The revaluation, reversion, or free floating of the currency may not happen tomorrow or even next week. I believe the Iraqi Security Forces with American help will gain control of the country. Iraq cannot be built into a nation state by force. The Hydro Carbon Law is set to be discussed this week. Another piece of the puzzle complete if parliment passes the four pieces of legislation making up the HCL.

We are in the right investment at the right time. In the past I've read that every dollar invested in Iraq could yeild a return of $10.00. If this is true. Those invested in the Dinar stand to potentially make a lot of money. To those doubters get in now waiting until later could cost you. If you can increase your position it may be a wise decision to so.

Thanks,

Rob N.


-- May 5, 2008 9:59 PM


cornishboy wrote:

The new law aims to protect investors

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The new law aims to protect investors
BAGHDAD - Hussein Star
The head of the Securities Abdulrazzaq Al-Saadi need to investor protection and the application of the principle of transparency in the work of the Commission, the market and companies working with it.
He said in an interview with "morning" during the conference convened by the Commission and attended by representatives of companies operating in the area of capital and a number of experts and concerned with this area to discuss the new law


Said: "The draft law was in conformity with the principles set by the World Organization of financial markets, law and went to identify bodies and the regulatory and administrative organization of the body and determine the mechanisms of financial, investment and operating companies working in the area of money in Iraq. The draft aimed at investor protection and market for securities Iraq of any possible hazards or crises .. The draft called on to disclose important principle of transparency via the reports issued by the body, the market and companies working with it.
He stressed We aim to form a body away from politics. He added that the draft allows freedom of action trophy in the market for companies operating in it.
He added that the adoption of its budget on central funding for public benefit, and called the draft law to that conflict resolution is in accordance with Iraqi law and corporate law .. Etc. from other law firms.
The president set the goal of the law that calls for action to encourage capital according to fair competition.
In conclusion, he said that this law will serve to support the company shares and holds data subscription and contributes to the legislation and subsequent market players to Iraq for securities through action to deal with cases of fraud, exploitation and contributes to reducing financial risks in Iraq.
Then reopen for the present and participating in the conference, Mohamed Chandler "financial expert" The draft is still vague in terms of identifying a cadre of law and ignoring the role of banks and the Central Bank in the body and senior management on the grounds that the cash based on the central bank and banks operating it, so Must be taken into consideration, said that version is still a language is incomplete and needed to define the terms of the law.
He stressed that reports annual profit realistic we have to take Bnzeralaattabar for the issuance of an annual report clearly defined and noted that their current draft calls for protecting older investors, not younger ones or even the participation of the citizen, yes, that the law allows for some companies operating in Iraq market for securities not disclosed in Some cases, this is contrary to the transparency advocated by the law, but Chandler praised the law by identifying a period of the account by providing companies operating 120 days instead of 150 days as in the old law.
With Mr. Osama Mohammed Ali "financial expert" There are some concepts used is not clear word rackets, it means people work in securities on his own, but for that particular paragraph in the third page of the law did not specify the middleman working or not.
He called for clarification of what is replaced with the term subscription offer, and added that he did not have to add a major in law and clarify the role of the potential participation in economic decision-Iraqi industry, raised the important point about the establishment of joint stock companies especially after the draft defined that the proportion of shareholders not less than 20 % But this point is not clear but not pursued by the founding shareholders and the greed that they now control the company's capital is 100%.
He called for the identification of a specific percentage does not exceed 40% and the rest invites the public to subscribe and to achieve this will protect the small investor.
Professor Ghazi we "journalist and financial expert" opinion that the use of the term "best efforts" in the second page of the draft law is not possible because the word amazement legal terminology in Iraq.
He called for the use of the word mediator allowance trading rackets and stressed that he could not use the term "legal personality" which has no place in Iraqi legislation.
Dr. Magid Image "Expert Aksadi" said the draft needed to be reconsidered in terms of language and questioned the vagueness of the definition of financial paper in Article 4, paragraph c that there are bonds issued by the Iraqi government or on behalf of, and this makes us before the problematic relationship of the Centre Region.
He praised Dr. Magid law adopting the idea of hiring pension funds because of its role in investment and active and fruitful experiments there could be cited as happened in Jordan.
Magid called for reconsidering the law firms in the light of the Iraqi draft law the General Authority for Securities Commission of the need for broader powers under that law not to mention the importance of the Iraqi capital markets.
Asked Professor Nadim Al-Salihi, when reading the draft did not know that the planned legislation and market a new law has market or association or body urged the company to be open to the public from small investors in order to entrench the concept of real savings and pointed out that there are many funds now we treasure without the benefit of remembrance and noted In the case of recruitment of these funds will come within the GNP of Iraq, said Professor Nadim played funds retirees and pointed to the experience of Britain not to give cash payments to families of martyrs, but they founded the company and shares in the company of those who had achieved profits of the task and had projects in Iraq such as the helm of Kut and building Mill house in Camp Sara.
He called for reconsidering the subscription banks, especially a farewell at the Central Bank of Iraq, and stressed that it is essential that there would be easy to dispose of the property rackets .. He called for the development of the market for securities Iraq .. He praised Iraq that race in the stock market and laws, pointing to the Stock Exchange year 1936 "Grain Exchange" Please Hashem representative of the Central Bank of Iraq said we call for commitment to company law is the law and a good catalyst for action in Iraq.
http://www.alsabaah.com/paper.php?so...page&sid=61418
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-- May 5, 2008 10:21 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Energy - Oil & Gas

Iraq Talks with Oil Majors; Deals Seen June
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/30680

-- May 5, 2008 10:27 PM


Roger wrote:

cornishboy,

The Zucker Youtube was hillarious.

RobN.

So I am labelled the pessimist here, oh well, I guess that the color of my clothes that I am wearing nowadays. I am not a downer on Iraq, with no means, but the overnight suspension to look for the daily exchange rate, that is made early morning our time, is gone.

Iraq will do good no doubt, the ingredience I am objecting to, and that is so energy sucking in this affair, is the issue of time.

Cornisboy,

I agree with RobN on the Amero issue, if it is instated, a common currency for Mexico, the US, and Canada, then Canada and the US will in fact buy Mexicos rehabilitation.

Any pull up for Mexico, will be a pull down for the US and Canada.

No can do, but if we get a "global president" that thinks along these lines that the priorities are not what is good for the US, but what is good for corrupt banana republics, and by that in his naivity thinks he is helping the US (or Canada), we might very well get a push for the idea.

If THAT happens, THEN it is time to be loud against it.

This idea didn't come from economists, for them it is a dead issue from the beginning. I am pretty sure if some detective work would be put into it, to trace where the Amero idea comes from, I would not be surprised a bit if they find that it originated in George Soros, camp.

-- May 6, 2008 5:15 AM


cornishboy wrote:

-- May 6, 2008 9:05 AM


cornishboy wrote:

A Simple Guide to Creating MoneyBy Mike Norman June 22, 2006
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I often hear people say that the Fed, or the government, or just the ever-present "they," are "printing too much money." This conjures up an image of rows and rows of printing and stamping presses running wild in the basement of the U.S. Treasury, spewing out endless stacks of worthless paper notes and coins with a metal value less than their face value. Well, this may come as a shock, but that image is wrong.Reality check
True, the Government does create hard currency. However, the money that is printed and minted represents just a tiny -- but important -- fraction of what we call money in our economy. Along with bank reserves, paper notes and coins compose what's known as the monetary base.
But the vast majority of what we call money is "credit money," and it's created in the banking system. It comprises checking or demand deposits, loans, and other forms of credit. Each time a bank makes a loan or extends credit, a deposit is created in the borrower's account, adding to the money supply. Through the miracle of "fractional reserve banking," this can add up very quickly, because the Fed requires banks to hold only 10 percent of their deposits as reserves. For every one dollar that a bank takes in as a deposit or creates by crediting someone's account, it can lend out ten more.

Not even the amount of reserves on hand can hold back a bank's ability to lend; after all, reserves can always be borrowed. There's an actively traded inter-bank market for reserves, with an interest rate matching the Fed funds rate (which I'll get to in a minute). The only limit on the amount of loans or new deposits that a bank can create is its capital, which equals its assets minus its liabilities. (The capital adequacy rule requires that the ratio of a bank's capital to its risk-weighted assets be at least 8%.)

Banks, therefore, have the ability to create huge amounts of money in our economy virtually out of thin air -- and they do. Most of what we call "money" comes from the banking system. Total bank credit in the U.S. is around $8 trillion, while the monetary base -- all those notes, coins, and reserves -- is $837 billion. In accordance with that 10-to-1 reserve ratio, bank credit is 10 times greater than the amount of money the Government prints, mints, or credits.
The Fed
No discussion of money would be complete without looking at the Fed's vital role. By buying and selling Treasury securities for its own account, it controls the level of reserves in the banking system -- and the cost of those reserves.

For example, when the Fed buys Treasury securities, it creates a deposit at the Federal Reserve Bank for the seller's own commercial bank. This tends to add to the overall level of reserves pushing down the cost of those reserves -- also known as the overnight lending rate or the Fed funds rate. When the Fed wants to raise the overnight lending rate, it sells Treasury securities from its own portfolio (usually to big banks and primary dealers). This debits the buyer's account, reducing reserves and leading to a higher Fed funds rate.

The banking system always needs an adequate level of reserves; otherwise, a payments crisis could develop. Depositors might want to withdraw funds, and if the bank does not have enough cash on hand, it could suffer a "run" on the bank. This has happened many times in U.S. history, most notably in 1933. To avoid this possibility, the Fed always acts to maintain the integrity of the banking system.

However, the Fed also wants to avoid injecting too much money; that could cause the economy to overheat, prompting inflation. Rather than trying to guess the proper level of reserves in an ever-fluctuating economy, the Fed only seeks to control the cost of those reserves via the Fed funds rate. By gently adding and subtracting just the right amounts of reserves, the Fed can maintain its target interest rate.

The deflation danger
As I mentioned earlier, the amount of money created in the economy is not determined by the Fed, but by the demand for cash and credit from businesses and the public. The Fed can certainly influence credit conditions, but it cannot force banks to lend, nor borrowers to borrow. If economic conditions provide for few business opportunities, the Fed can exert little influence over monetary growth.

Japan suffered just such a state toward the end of the 1990s, when the economy fell into a serious deflation. Because prices of goods, services, and assets were falling, there was little business opportunity, and therefore little demand for credit. Moreover, the Japanese banking system was getting crushed under the weight of hundreds of billions of dollars in bad loans. The Bank of Japan tried to combat this by pushing interest rates all the way to zero in an effort to stimulate lending, consumption, and money creation. It didn't work. In the end, only massive deficit spending by the Japanese government turned the economy around.

Here in the U.S., many people have been saying that the Fed has been "adding too much liquidity." But although real interest rates were pushed to negative levels from 2002 to 2004, monetary growth rates remain below their five-year average. In other words, despite the Fed's best efforts to print money, it couldn't.

So, next time you hear someone saying, "They're printing money like crazy," don't believe them. Better yet, ask them exactly who is doing the printing, how much is being printed, and how it's being done. Chances are, they'll have no clue. Then you can give them a lesson.
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-- May 6, 2008 9:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Slight drop in the demand for the dollar

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Tuesday , 06 /05 /2008 Time 3:18:46




Baghdad, May 6, (VOI) - Demand for the dollar was slightly down in the Iraqi Central Bank's auction on Tuesday, reaching $127.170 million compared to $133.510 million on Monday.

"The demand hit $6.885 million in cash and $120.285 million in money transfers outside the country, all covered by the bank at an exchange rate of 1,201 Iraqi dinars per dollar, same as yesterday," according to the central bank's daily bulletin which was received by Aswat al-Iraq, Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The 17 banks that participated in the auction offered to sell $1.200 million, which the bank bought at an exchange rate of 1,199 dinars per dollar.

In an exclusive statement to VOI, Ali al-Yasseri, a trader, said that the overall demand for the dollar is above average, following a sharp drop last week.

The Iraqi Central Bank runs a daily auction from Sunday to Thursday.
(www.aswataliraq.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 6, 2008 10:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Shell says in talks to export Iraqi gas via Turkey

Royal Dutch Shell Plc is in talks with Turkiye Petrolleri AO, Turkey's state oil company, to build a pipeline to export Iraqi natural gas via Turkey.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 6, 2008 10:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Hezbollah training Iraqis in Tehran - US

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Baghdad, 06 May 2008 (Associated Press)
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Iraqi Shiite extremists are being trained by members of Hezbollah in camps near Tehran, a US military spokesman said yesterday.

Iraqis are receiving the training at camps operated by the Quds Force, an elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps that has been accused of training and funnelling weapons to Shiite extremists in Iraq.

The group is also known as the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps-Quds Force, or IRGC-QF.

"We have multiple detainees who state Lebanese Hezbollah are providing training to Iraqis in Iranian IRGC-QF training camps near Tehran," Air Force Col. Donald Bacon, a US military spokesman in Baghdad, said.

'Massacre of people'

Meanwhile, Iran dismissed any prospect of new talks with the United States on Iraq, accusing US-led forces of a "massacre" of the Iraqi people.

The two foes last year held three rounds of ground-breaking discussions in Baghdad, easing a diplomatic freeze of almost three decades, but Iraqi officials have expressed frustration that a fourth round has failed to get off the ground.

"Right now, what we observe in Iraq is a massacre of the Iraqi nation by the occupying forces," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hussaini told a news conference.

"Concerning this situation, talks with America will have no results and will be meaningless."

US forces have been fighting daily battles with militiamen loyal to Moqtada Al Sadr in Baghdad.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 6, 2008 10:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Top U.S. Officer says Would Prefer No War on Iran

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JERUSALEM, 06 May 2008 (Reuters)
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U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq would make it difficult to mount any attack on Iran, the Pentagon's top officer said in remarks broadcast on Monday, adding that he would prefer to avoid a new regional war.

"I actually am very hopeful that we don't get into a position where we have to get into a conflict," Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Israel's Channel Ten television when asked if he might recommend that U.S. forces strike Iranian nuclear facilities preemptively.

"It would be a very significant challenge for the United States right now to get into a third conflict in that part of the world," Mullen added, referring to the Bush administration's long-running military commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Washington is leading efforts to curb Iran's nuclear plans through U.N. Security Council sanctions, but has also hinted that war could be a last resort for denying Tehran -- which insists it seeks atomic energy only -- the means to make a bomb.

Jittery since Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 2005 call for the Jewish state to be "wiped off the map," Israeli officials have been lobbying for a tougher global stand against their arch-foe.

"I certainly share the concern about Iran and about the leadership, and I think it is very important that we increase as much as possible the financial pressure, the diplomatic pressure, the political pressure, and at the same time keep all the military options on the table," Mullen said.

Believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. Israeli war planes also destroyed a site in Syria last September which U.S. officials said was that of a secret nuclear program, though Damascus denied having any such facility.

"Certainly the situation with Syria is a troubling one and the development of this nuclear reactor was a troubling one indeed, and it is also indicative of what can be done out of the sight of people," Mullen said.

"You just can't be sure whether someone isn't developing one somewhere else."

Speculation that Israel could attack Iranian nuclear sites alone has been offset by assessments that its armed forces are too limited for the task. Iran is widely expected to retaliate for any such strike by targeting Israel and U.S. assets in the Gulf.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 6, 2008 10:23 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger - I don't see you as pessimistic, just going by the current news, which is as slow as a camel in plodding through the hot Arabian desert. That can change in the blink of an eye. The RV of the Dinar is based on a decision which has to be made and a "bullet' which has to be bitten upon - in other words, the recognition that monetizing their asset (oil) is in the best interest of the country and its people. I tend to think that Rob N is right that they will have to do so because it is truly the wisest choice for them to make for their own good, and to address inflation. That makes a sudden shift in the Dinar's value a probable near-term reality, in spite of how far-fetched it may seem to those who look at things as they are now and see only that continuing as a steady growth potential in the vacinity of years. Of course, the proof is in the pudding, and we haven't seen the sudden shift in its value into anything near normal or true value for the Dinar, even with the talk about wishing the Dinar to be like the past rate of the Dinar OR the monetization of their currency. But that doesn't mean we will not see a sudden shift in value, particularly once the HCL gets into place to protect investors. With assurances to those investing in Iraq that they won't get bilked for doing so, the investment climate changes, and the inflation scenerio Rob N brought out begins to appear. I am very sure the Iraqis and money people have looked at all their options, and I remain hopeful that they will choose to RV to offset the inflation and make their currency worth more so their country can move forward and prosper. There are rumors of RV currently out there which are plausible and they keep a smile on my face. :)

As for the Amero - I think the US could absorb Canada into its orbit without any harm to its economy. Indeed, it may just make for a much easier way to defend that long border between the two (the longest undefended border in the world) and make for ease of monitoring not only for commerce, but also concerning the terrorist problem both nations face. But I do not see that the Mexico addition is likely to be anything very positive for the US. I, too, see Mexico dragging the US down. If the Canadians would agree to a union which allows the US and Canadians to better integrate for the benefit of them both.. WITHOUT any harm to the US Constitution or any of its founding values or documents, it would secure for the Canadians a continued good relationship with their largest trading partner, and give the US security on every border which touches ocean for North America. I see no problems there, only win-win benefits.

Borders, ports and movement of cargo/goods/people across those boundaries must be secured for the US to be properly protected during the GWOT. That benefit is not as apparent with a Mexico merger and I do not see the Canadians pouring over the border and living on US taxpayer expense as is the case with Mexico. The illegal immigration and demographic political/economic changes are not with Canada, but with Mexico. I see no reason for including Mexico in any merger from the point of view of US security. The southern border needs to be enforced, and if they took ALL the border problems away from the northern border with Canada and put the efforts being used there to work on the southern border with Mexico, it could help tremendously. I see Canada and the US managing a currency together for the benefit of them both.. but why on earth include Mexico if it is only going to pull the US down in a spiral of economic and political disaster? Unless the target is to destroy the US economy and its current values as upheld by those who currently have the vote? By making the Mexicans all into voters in the US, it would enrich the left very strongly with their agenda to tax and spend. It would change the political climate radically, disenfrancising the current political power holders and giving power to another block with different values than are currently held. This is not the case with Canada, even if the US ended up morphing into being one country with them. Canadians won't come and take US jobs, nor live on US taxpayer expense. The ONLY reason I can see for allowing Mexican illegals into the US (or merging with the US) in large numbers is to GIVE to them lots of US taxpayer money in exchange for their votes. There are other ways to secure that US border with Mexico that MOST Americans would prefer rather than giving away the country to third world Latin America/Mexico.

From my own viewpoint.. I believe that the Canadian/US merger will have to happen to secure North America's borders from future peril. I also believe that it is God's will and cannot be stopped.. FOR AMERICA'S GOOD. But the southern merger with Mexico I have not seen to be a wise way to go.. and I have no discernment in the question as to whether it is God's will or not. It is a humbling thing that God is not "on tap" in that way. I know it is His will for the US and Canada to merge for their mutual protection.. but the Mexico merger is fraught with difficulties and insurmountable obstacles which could bring harm to the US.. and so I do not see it as wise or desirable. It appears to me that the two proposals have been paired together to try and force the good and bad into one.. much like many bills in Congress have things attached to them which ruin the deals. I think if the US were to consider the US/Canada merger for the benefit of both (without any immigration influx of unskilled personnel or people suddenly living on the US taxpayer dole), it would fly even among Americans considering it for the mutual protection of both. But Mexico?? I am very skeptical it has the plan or blessing of God upon it for any good. These proposals need to be unhitched from one another, and each considered on their own merit. Once the GWOT has another seminal event happen like 911 (which I believe is only a matter of time), the merger logic for the mutual benefit and protection of the US and Canada will appear forcefully. At that time, the two must be unhitched from each other, so that it isn't ruining the US economy and political dynamics with the unsound judgement of uniting Mexico to the inevitable merger of US/Canada. At a time when the US is again feeling vulnerable (after another 911 attack), there will need to be caution so we don't go too far and give away the farm to a third world country while securing our own existence and prosperity.

Thinking toward the endgame of what happens to the US in the aftermath of another attack scenerio unfolding, what possible interpretation could be put upon the words "widespread health disaster" in your mind.. besides the flu, I mean? In the following article, note the reference to those who are badly "burned" (large numbers.. from what?) and have "critical" and "severe trauma" injuries in the recommendations.. what kind of "WIDESPREAD" and "mass casualty critical care event" would take into account burns, critical injuries and severe trauma vitims, then categorize them by age and survivability? Isn't it interesting that this could apply.. not just to the Flu.. but to any "widespread mass casualty critical care event".. including terrorism on US soil? Prudent to prepare for such an event because, "members believe it's just a matter of time before such a health care disaster hits"? Maybe they don't see it as useful in case of terrorism.. but it will be even if they haven't that intent:

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Government Report Answers Who Lives, Who Dies in Flu Pandemic
Monday, May 05, 2008

Doctors know some patients needing lifesaving care won't get it in a flu pandemic or other disaster. The gut-wrenching dilemma will be deciding who to let die.

Who will die? The very old, seriously hurt, severely burned and those with severe dementia, according to an influential group of physicians.

The group has drafted a grimly specific list of recommendations for which patients wouldn't be treated.

The proposed guidelines are designed to be a blueprint for hospitals "so that everybody will be thinking in the same way" when pandemic flu or another widespread health care disaster hits, said Dr. Asha Devereaux. She is a critical care specialist in San Diego and lead writer of the task force report.

The idea is to try to make sure that scarce resources — including ventilators, medicine and doctors and nurses — are used in a uniform, objective way, task force members said.

Their recommendations appear in a report appearing Monday in the May edition of Chest, the medical journal of the American College of Chest Physicians.

"If a mass casualty critical care event were to occur tomorrow, many people with clinical conditions that are survivable under usual health care system conditions may have to forgo life-sustaining interventions owing to deficiencies in supply or staffing," the report states.

To prepare, hospitals should designate a triage team with the Godlike task of deciding who will and who won't get lifesaving care, the task force wrote. Those out of luck are the people at high risk of death and a slim chance of long-term survival. But the recommendations get much more specific, and include:

— People older than 85.

— Those with severe trauma, which could include critical injuries from car crashes and shootings.

Severely burned patients older than 60.

— Those with severe mental impairment, which could include advanced Alzheimer's disease.

— Those with a severe chronic disease, such as advanced heart failure, lung disease or poorly controlled diabetes.

James Bentley, a senior vice president at American Hospital Association, said the report will give guidance to hospitals in shaping their own preparedness plans even if they don't follow all the suggestions.

He said the proposals resemble a battlefield approach in which limited health care resources are reserved for those most likely to survive.

While the notion of rationing health care is unpleasant, the report could help the public understand that it will be necessary, Bentley said.

Devereaux said compiling the list "was emotionally difficult for everyone."

That's partly because members believe it's just a matter of time before such a health care disaster hits, she said.

"You never know," Devereaux said. "SARS took a lot of folks by surprise. We didn't even know it existed."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354135,00.html

Sara.

-- May 6, 2008 1:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Latest NB comedy has some interesting political points.
Worth a watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxkm9HQtukk

-- May 6, 2008 2:53 PM


Sara wrote:

As Obama's supporters in the media try to downplay the Wright controversy, the statistics they are ignoring play into the election:

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Will Media Ignore Bad Wright News in the Exit Polls?
By Tim Graham
May 7, 2008

At this point before the Wednesday morning shows, Matt Drudge is highlighting an MSNBC clip where Tim Russert says we know the nominee will be Obama, and Hillary will be the last to realize it. But will the networks' post-election coverage identify the sour notes for Obama in the exit polls? AP reporter Alan Fram found the Jeremiah Wright connection continues to hurt Obama with white voters (and this is Democratic primary voters)
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Obama, the Illinois senator battling to become the first black president, again failed to gain ground with a crucial voting bloc that has consistently eluded him — working-class whites. But he was piecing together a coalition that besides blacks included the young, first-time primary voters, the very liberal and college graduates, plus sizable minorities of whites....

Wright was a looming factor in the voting, with nearly half in each state saying he was important in choosing a candidate. Of that group, seven in 10 in Indiana and six in 10 in North Carolina backed Clinton.

Those saying Wright did not influence them heavily favored Obama. In North Carolina, Obama got more votes from people saying they discounted the Wright episode than Clinton got from those affected by it, while in Indiana the two groups were about equal in size.

Among whites, eight in 10 in both states who said Wright affected their choice went with Clinton. That was well above the six in 10 whites overall who supported her.

In both states, two-thirds of Clinton's white voters said Wright was important. That compared to eight in 10 white Obama supporters who said Wright was not a factor.

In the latest evidence of bitter feelings between the two camps, just under half of each candidate's supporters in both states said they would support the other against McCain in November.

Fram watered down the most controversial Wright remarks, that the government "may have" invented AIDS, and it "invited" 9/11.
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Wright has said the U.S. government may have developed the AIDS virus to infect blacks and that the U.S. invited the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Obama denounced the remarks last week.

— Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

Comments:

Will they ignore it? by motherbelt

Will they ignore it?

I don't think so. But they will spin it that about half who said it factored into their voting had a favorable view of the way he handled it.

And as usual, come November, the Democrats will revert to the pack and punch the "D" circle.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/05/07/will-media-ignore-bad-wright-news-exit-polls

===end of article===

Why is the white vote so important.. the one Obama lost big time as a result of the Wright affair according to these polling statistics?
As I stated before here: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/03/dinar_discussio.html#134034
Those in the know say the white vote is the swing vote as to who gets into the Whitehouse. (That is why the MSM spends so much time telling whites to "not be racist" and vote for Obama - in spite of any disqualifications or legitimate questioning of his character/discernment/alliances/allegiances as a person and potential leader of the most powerful nation on earth.)
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Voters known as Reagan Democrats (are the) swing voters who have been courted by both parties ever since they tipped the balance for Ronald Reagan in the 1980 presidential election.

"The Obama campaign has not been very successful in connecting with middle-aged, older, white working-class voters," said Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic pollster who has done work for the AFL-CIO and is not affiliated with any candidate. "It is very important for them to understand why that is so because those are the kinds of voters who have been swing voters in the last two general elections."

Brooke Buchanan, a spokeswoman for the McCain campaign, said, "Reagan Democrats support low taxes and less regulation, which Sen. McCain's record has consistently supported."

===end quote==

The point is.. Obama has lost the swing vote and the MSM may be using smoke and mirrors to cover it up, but in a matchup with McCain, over HALF the Democrats are now saying they will support McCain over their rival candidate. Quote, "In the latest evidence of bitter feelings between the two camps, just under half of each candidate's supporters in both states said they would support the other against McCain in November."

That means OVER HALF of these Democrat swing voters WILL support McCain in November (and rising). If these people are as good as their word, you can see clearly that McCain will win the Whitehouse in spite of all the bellyaching and smoke and mirrors of the MSM press trying to recover from and downplay the Wright controversy and how it has influenced how people view Obama. Note that the "win" for Obama was because he held onto 90% of the black vote, and they are not the swing voters concerning the Whitehouse:

CBS News: Hillary Wins Indiana, Obama NC
At least according to CBS News:
Clinton Wins Indiana, Obama Takes N.C.
EVANSVILLE, Ind., May 6, 2008

Clinton pulled off an Indiana win in what was a virtual must-win Midwestern state.

Obama’s win mirrored earlier triumphs in Southern states with large black populations: Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and South Carolina among them.

Late deciders backed Clinton in Indiana by a margin of 62 percent to 38 percent for Obama. In North Carolina, Obama won late deciders by a much smaller margin of 49 percent to 48 percent.

==end quote==

Pretty much as expected.

Of course good to see that our first Post-Racial Candidate ® still has a lock on more than 90% of the black vote.

So the beast/beat goes on.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wins-nc-with-unanimous-black-vote

Note also from the previous article that,
QUOTE:

"Fram watered down the most controversial Wright remarks, that the government "may have" invented AIDS, and it "invited" 9/11."

I think swing voters will remember that Wright said the US government made AIDS (not "may have") and that the United States of America deserved attack (not "invited"), and like those Democrats expressing their support of McCain in this poll, these swing voters will support McCain over someone tainted with close anti-American friends - in spite of whatever distortions the media tries to throw at the McCain campaign. There just isn't much the Obama fawning MSM crowd can do to offset Obama being linked in character to those he chose to be closest to (including his being inspired by Wright's sermon to write his book which was named after a part of a Wright sermon) - he is linked to them in the mind of the swing voters - who are white voters and of whom the article said, "In both states, two-thirds of Clinton's white voters said Wright was important." I don't see that changing over time, in spite of the crooning, minimizing and seducing influences the press hopes to use to soften those views before election time.

As for strong elements which will figure into the vote for McCain, that article I previously posted said,
QUOTE:

McCain is seen as frank, a good leader, strong on defense and opposed to tax increases. McCain's appeal is based on his status as a war hero and his reputation as a political moderate.

The winning hand will yet be played. But if you look closely now, you can see how it will turn out. And from our investment's point of view (as well as our care and concern for the Iraqi people) IRAQ WINS with no hasty pullout happening and their not being left in the lurch.. because circumstances were so moved to bring about that effect. It almost looks like Divine Intervention because God cares about not only the US but about the Iraqi people and the future of their nation, doesn't it?

Sara.

-- May 7, 2008 10:42 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq orders 30 Boeing 737-800 planes
Baghdad: Tue, 6 May 2008

Iraq has ordered 30 Boeing 737-800 commercial airplanes, the first step in re-establishing the country’s scheduled commercial aviation operations.

Iraq has also contracted options for 10 additional 737s, an announcement by Boeing and the Government of Iraq said.

Valued at $2.2 billion at current list prices, the order was previously accounted for on Boeing’s Orders & Deliveries Web site attributed to an unidentified customer, the announcement said.

In addition, Iraq and Boeing are finalising an agreement for 10 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, which will allow an Iraqi national airline to provide longer-range commercial service. The 787s will be added to Boeing’s order book when the contract is completed.

“Today is truly a milestone event for Boeing and for Iraq,” Carson said. “The operational characteristics of the Boeing Next-Generation 737 and 787 Dreamliner are unbeatable and, as we work together in support of Iraq’s plan to build a national carrier, we envision the day when a modern and efficient fleet of airplanes will directly support Iraq’s economic development and growth.”

http://www.tradearabia.com/news/newsdetails.asp?Sn=TTN&artid=142960

-- May 7, 2008 10:54 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Canada renews support for Iraq in trade and economy

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Canada renews support for Iraq in trade and economy

BAGHDAD / long

Canada renewed its ambassador in Iraq to support her country's keenness and durable to meet the needs of the Iraqi people and stressed Margaret Hiossir during her meeting with Trade Minister Abdul Hassan Sudanese farmer on her desire to increase bilateral cooperation and sign agreements aimed at activating the joint relations and agree on common points serve the two friendly nations as a common vision allowing benefit from the experience Held by the Canadian side in the fields of economy and trade.

For his part, the Sudanese During the meeting the importance of the role played by Canada in assisting Iraq in addition to the large role in providing some basic material in the ration card through contracts entered into by the ministry with Canadian companies to provide material wheat characterized by good quality.

He added that there is a common vision between the two countries to develop economic and trade relations in addition to the possibility of benefiting from the Canadian experience in the field of exchanging information and developing the agricultural sector and rehabilitate Iraqi capabilities through the development and increase their expertise.

-- May 7, 2008 2:14 PM


Sara wrote:

Report: Al-Qaida in Iraq leader identified with photograph
Wed May 7, 2008/ AP

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Arabiya television reports it has identified the leader of "al-Qaida in Iraq" and the network broadcast his photograph.

The Dubai-based network, citing an Iraqi police official, said the real name of Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who allegedly heads the Islamic State of Iraq, is Hamid Dawoud al-Zawi.

Originally from Haditha, al-Baghdadi served in the Iraqi army under Saddam Hussein, then joined al-Qaida in 2003, the police official told Al-Arabiya.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080507/world/iraq_al_qaida_leader

-- May 7, 2008 4:16 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq Sunnis urge Arabs to act against Iranian occupation
Wed May 7, 2008

CAIRO (AFP) - An Iraqi Sunni delegation on a visit to Cairo on Wednesday urged Arab countries to act against the Iranian occupation of Iraq.

"We would like a common Arab position to save Iraq and its people ...(in the face of) the Iranian occupation," Sheikh Majid Abdel Razzak al-Ali Suleiman said after a meeting with Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit.

"Such an Arab position, led by Egypt, is necessary to weaken Iran's role in Iraq, because if Tehran occupies this country, it will occupy other Arab countries too," said the head of the Dulaim tribe, which is concentrated mainly in Anbar province, west of Baghdad.

The delegation also called on Arab countries to re-open their missions in Baghdad "so that the territory is not left to Iran."

Suleiman said that all Iraqis, whether from north or south, "are ready to guarantee Arab diplomats' security."

For his part, Abul Gheit said his country was seriously considering sending a security mission to Iraq in order to assess conditions for re-opening an embassy in Iraq, according to his spokesman Hossam Zaki.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080507/world/iraq_unrest_sunni_arab_iran

-- May 7, 2008 4:21 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq ready to pay back some of the money the U.S. has invested

(RTTNews) - Boosted by record oil production and control over its own finances, Iraq has hinted on Wednesday that it is ready to return the United States at least some of the billions of dollars spent for reconstructing the country.

Addressing a press conference with Paul Brinkley, the U.S. undersecretary of Defense for Business Transformation in Iraq, Iraqi Industry minister Fawzi Hariri spoke hopefully of more than doubling the country’s oil production within two to three years with the technical support from the U.S.http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080507\ACQRTT200805071407RTTRADERUSEQUITY_0816.htm&selected=9999&selecteddisplaysymbol=9999&StoryTargetFrame=_top&mkt=WORLD&chk=unchecked&lang=&link=&headlinereturnpage=http://www.international.nasd

Asked what he thought of the Democratic proposal for a ban on providing U.S. aid to rebuild towns or equip security forces unless Iraq matches every dollar spent by the United States, Hariri noted that Iraq has only been able to control its own finances since 2006 and said, "the government of Iraq is doing its best to support industry and housing reconstruction."

Banking on estimated oil revenue of $70 billion this year because of record-high fuel prices, Hariri sounded optimistic in "paying the money back." However, on spending on the security front, he said it is "completely a U.S. decision."

Iraq, which currently produces 2 million to 2.4 million barrels of oil a day, aims to increase the output to 3 million barrels by the end of 2008, Hariri said. Depending on the extent of foreign technology it receives, Iraq can reach an output capacity of 5 million barrels in another two to three years, according to the industry minister.

-- May 7, 2008 6:51 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Samaha met Mr. Amar al-Hakim Tuesday 6/5/2008 Dr. Sinan Alshabibi Iraqi Central Bank Governor

Mr. Amar al-Hakim receives Iraqi Central Bank Governor
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ام الثلاثاء 6/5/2008 ي Samaha met Mr. Amar al-Hakim Tuesday 6/5/2008 Dr. Sinan Alshabibi Iraqi Central Bank Governor
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القدولية . At the meeting studied the financial and banking conditions in the country and vast prospects for their development, thus contributing to the welfare and recovery of the purchasing power of people and supports Iraq's international standing.
للاد . As in the meeting to exchange views and to stress the importance of absorption capacity and the development of youth because of the positive impact on the banking and economic situation in the country.
ن . For his part, the discourse on the need to make efforts to upgrade our financial and banking service for the national interest and improve the pension conditions for citizens.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://alforattv.net/index.php%3Fshow%3Dnews%26action%3Darticle%26id%3D22123

-- May 7, 2008 7:01 PM



Sara wrote:

GREAT posts, cornish_boy!

I really like the one which speaks of the "recovery of the purchasing power of people" and supporting "Iraq's international standing."

Thanks for them, good reads! :)

Sara.

-- May 8, 2008 2:49 AM


Sara wrote:

NC-IN Primary Data the Media Won't Emphasize
By Tom Blumer
May 7, 2008

There can be little doubt now that Old Media is applying full-court pressure to anoint Barack Obama with the Democratic nomination, and on Hillary Clinton to drop out of the race.

The New York Times's stories for tomorrow's print edition ("Support for Clinton Wanes as Obama Sees Finish Line" and "Pundits Declare the Race Over") clearly point in those directions. The first describes North Carolina as "a decisive loss" for Mrs. Clinton. The second shows how determined the Times appears to be to come up with evidence that Obama has the nomination in the bag, as it actually notes the despised Matt Drudge's headline link earier today to Tim Russert's "The Nominee" video.

Wait a minute.

Jim Geraghty at National Review online appears to be about the only person to have caught the obvious: Barack Obama's overwhelming support from African-Americans means that he performed miserably with the rest of the voters.

Did he ever (see graphics below):

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1NVfi9

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1NVwL9

(Sources: ABC for vote totals (as of post time); Geraghty below for Obama's percentages of the African-American vote; the 40% and 16.8% estimates for NC's and IN's African-American percentage of total are consistent proportionally with the turnout in South Carolina.)

I contend that if this were almost any other candidate, the press would be asking him how he can possibly win the general election if he could get only 35% of the non-African-American vote in North Carolina, and just 41% of it in the state just east of his home state of Illinois.

But this isn't any other candidate, Geraghty notes, as he also goes to the selective questioning of the motivations of certain voting blocs

QUOTE :

African-Americans are free to vote for whoever they like, obviously. But as the primary stretches on, and it becomes clear that overwhelming and monolithic support among African-Americans is putting Obama over the top, I wonder how other voter demographics will react.

Obama carried 91 percent of the African-American vote in North Carolina and 90 percent of the African-American vote in Indiana. No other demographic was anywhere near so lopsided in their support; the closest were non-college whites who split 71-26 for Hillary in North Carolina; 65-35 for Hillary in Indiana.

..... African-Americans are voting overwhelmingly for a candidate who shares their skin color, but it's being repeatedly suggested that white working-class voters are motivated by racism. Is this the "national conversation on race" that Obama had in mind in his Philly speech?

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The other question the press isn't asking is how Obama went from sweeping virutally every demographic group except white females in January's South Carolina primary to losing just about every one except African-Americans less than four months later. The deterioration is striking, as is the press's failure to note it.

Adapted and updated from entries (here, here, and here) originally posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/05/07/nc-primary-data-media-wont-emphasize

-- May 8, 2008 3:07 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Central Bank favor of contiuantion of monetary policy

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BAGHDAD - Al Sabah
The Central Bank of Iraq adviser Dr Mazhar favour the continuation of monetary policy aimed at reducing the size of inflation in the national economy, leading to a stable environment for growth


The reduced benefit in a press statement from the influences that can be shown economic recession which is expected to occur in the U.S. economy in the coming term, as economic reports pointed to this. Within the dollar, which linked the economic impacts in the United States, but clarified that the relationship between the decline in the dollar and high oil prices will contribute to modify the impact on Iraqi economy. He expected the emergence of economic power in favour of the third world within the next 20 years, to establish a state of economic balance in addition to the two American and European, which will be the emergence of a special currency to Asian countries growing economically, or as it was dubbed the benefit of "World Chinese currency." Saleh added that Iraq And its trading partners are working
http://www.alsabaah.com/paper.php?so...page&sid=61638

-- May 8, 2008 9:49 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Look who's in Washington May 7th-9th

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The 3rd U.S.-Arab Economic Forum will take place on May 7-9, 2008 in Washington, D.C. These three days of dialogue, will provide a powerful opportunity for leaders from the United States and the Arab world to reinforce existing partnerships and forge new alliances and collaborations between the two regions.
The Forum will unite over 1,000 participants from more than 35 countries including top Fortune 500 executives and over 150 global leaders, in the fields of government, business, technology, academics and policy.
The U.S.-Arab Economic Forum works to secure a future rich with economic growth, cultural discourse, and bold innovation, by engaging the public and private sectors in building knowledge-based societies. The strategic impact of the USAEF is significant. In the past the Forum has had considerable audiences across the U.S. and Arab world. Close to 50 million people accessed coverage of the Forum through extensive media coverage that included CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Al-Jazeera, BBC, LBC, and Al Arabiya.
http://usaef.ameeac.org/

Click on SPEAKERS at the top to see the impressive guest list.

-- May 8, 2008 9:52 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Barzani's Kurdistan province confirms that all Iraqis and is open for investments

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Barzani's Kurdistan province confirms that all Iraqis and is open for investments

. President of Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani in the resort of Salahuddin town of Arbil yesterday, Wednesday, with a large delegation of businessmen, traders and Iraqis living abroad and who are currently on a visit to the territory of ways to invest their money in the Kurdistan region.
. He stressed that during the meeting, Barzani's Kurdistan province for all Iraqis and Iraq is open to investments and there is no difference between Basra and Arbil or Sulaymaniyah and Dohuk Baghdad Awalanbar and they are all Iraqi cities.
. And Businessmen Association Chairman reviewed the work of Iraqis Thamer exclusive Shaykhli obstacles facing investors Iraqis living abroad contending step territorial Government invitation traders and Iraqi businessmen to invest capital in the Kurdistan region that they are in advancing investment forward.
ا . , Praising the role of the prime minister in the government of the Territory Mosques Barzani of the facilities provided by the merchants of Iraqis also reviewed the President of the Assembly of Iraqi businessmen and a number of traders and their views and issues and problems and offered to Barzani, a number of proposals and observations in this regard with a view to finding solutions to them http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiodijla.com/cgi-bin/news/item.pl%3Fid%3D1210236008%26d%3D20080508%26w%3D4%26h%3D12%26m%3D40

-- May 8, 2008 9:55 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Banks eligibility demanding release of the Central Bank the value of bank credits

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Banks eligibility demanding release of the Central Bank the value of bank credits


بم 2003 . Banks appealed to the civil Iraqi government the Iraqi Central Bank by opening the value of their financial allocations and not identified as a certain amount of world countries in order to allow them to move according to market economics and modern to serve the economic transformation plans adopted by the government since 2003.
ة. They asked the Central Bank of Iraq not to determine the ceiling material to their financial allocations, since it represents a hindrance to the expansion of infrastructure bank has successively and thus freezing business dealings, whether external Awaldakhalih.
وال. In this context, the Commissioner said Deputy Director of the Bank Alorca of investment and finance, Mohamed Hassan Said in an interview with "Sabah" that the banks need the support of civil government representative of the Iraqi Central Bank through the opening credits without adherence to a certain ceiling and submitted it to revitalize the national economy, taking into consideration The efficiency of the bank and the package of services provided by the bank and the development processes of restructuring as well as lifting his head like those achieved by the bank to introduce Sovietizing the banking dealings to facilitate services to customers for the first time in Iraq as well as put up a new interest rate on deposits of three types and amount to 12 percent for three months And 13 percent for six months and 14 percent for one year.
. He added that the bank grants in the same context, the smart card serve its customers and ATM and the issuance of guarantees and opening credits low through the Internet service bank "e-bank" and using a password containing the account number and name.

http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

-- May 8, 2008 10:15 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Baghdad Coming To Life

The “protect the population” benefits of the surge tactics continue to be felt by ordinary Iraqis:

Baghdad - There is big excitement on al-Marifah Street. City workers are installing a new transformer to bring power to a part of the southern Baghdad neighborhood of Saidiyah that hasn’t been on the city’s electrical grid for more than a year. “A year ago, dead bodies lay on this street for days; no one dared to pick them up. But now we are getting lights and shops have opened back up,” says Mahdi Jabbar Falah, a 40-year resident who has just moved himself and his family of nine back to their house.
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“Last year, this was a ghost town,” he says, “but now I feel we are alive again.”

“You can’t say there’s perfect safety here now, but it’s much better than before when you didn’t dare go out on the street,” says Ali Latif, a young Shiite who returned to Saidiyah in January after leaving for six months. “There are still terrorists here, but now they stay more hidden,”

Back on al-Marifah Street, grocery merchant Ibrahim says the people – and the Iraqi Army – are not ready for the Americans to go. “The Americans are testing the Iraqi troops, and our sense of security is still very new so the people would be very nervous if the Americans left,” he says. “No, their presence is still 100 percent necessary.”

I hope Obama is listening. It would be a tragic irony if he was the second Hussein to ruin Iraq.

http://www.deanesmay.com/2008/05/07/...oming-to-life/

-- May 8, 2008 10:19 AM


Sara wrote:

Former Gitmo prisoner carried out Iraq attack
By Ben Fox - The Associated Press
May 8, 2008

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — A Kuwaiti freed from Guantanamo Bay carried out a suicide car bombing recently in Iraq, the U.S. military said Wednesday, confirming what is believed to be the first such attack by a former detainee at the U.S. military detention center in Cuba.

Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi took part in one of three suicide bomb attacks last month that targeted Iraqi security forces in the northern city of Mosul, said Navy Cmdr. Scott Rye, a military spokesman in Baghdad. At least seven people were killed in the attacks.

Al-Ajmi’s American lawyer said incarceration at Guantanamo may have turned the Kuwaiti into a terrorist. But the U.S. military says he was already an enemy combatant when he was brought to Guantanamo in 2002 after being captured in Afghanistan.

Up to 36 former Guantanamo detainees have resumed hostilities against the U.S., including some who have been taken back into custody or killed, the Pentagon says. Al-Ajmi is apparently the first to have become a suicide bomber, said Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman.

“There is an implied future risk to U.S. and allied interests with every detainee who is released or transferred from Guantanamo,” Gordon told The Associated Press.

Military documents show al-Ajmi, 29, had a history of discipline problems at Guantanamo Bay. Despite his problems at Guantanamo, in 2005 al-Ajmi was transferred to Kuwait, which was supposed to ensure he would no longer pose a threat.

But in May 2006, a Kuwaiti court acquitted him of being a member of al-Qaida and raising money for the terror organization. The court also acquitted four other former Guantanamo prisoners.

Dubai-based al-Arabiya television last week reported al-Ajmi had carried out a suicide attack, but the U.S. military could not confirm it until Wednesday. Rye said authorities determined he entered Iraq through Syria and that al-Ajmi’s family confirmed his death.

The three suicide car bombings last month killed at least seven people and wounded 28, Mosul officials said. It was not yet known which one al-Ajmi allegedly carried out.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/05/ap_gitmo_suicidebomber_050708/

-- May 8, 2008 12:29 PM


Sara wrote:

Dramatic increase in the demand for the dollar
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Thursday , 08 /05 /2008

Baghdad, May 8, (VOI) - Demand for the dollar was dramatically up in the Iraqi Central Bank's auction on Thursday, reaching $164.635 million compared to $54.635 million on Wednesday.

In an exclusive statement to VOI, Ali al-Yasseri, a trader, said that cash demands rose as expected on Thursday, on which traders pay their bills. However, the drop in the exchange rate was a surprise that urged traders to increase their foreign remittances, driving up the overall demand for the dollar to three times that of yesterday.

The Iraqi Central Bank runs a daily auction from Sunday to Thursday.

http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=78635&NrIssue=2&NrSection=2

-- May 8, 2008 2:54 PM


Sara wrote:

ISX closes with 500,000-share contract
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Thursday , 08 /05 /2008

Baghdad, May 8, (VOI) - The Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX) closed its session on Thursday with a 500,000-share contract at a value of 1,050 Iraqi dinars (1 U.S. dollar = 1,222 Iraqi dinars) per share.

The stock market opened its session this morning with two 2-million-share contracts. The first contract was concluded by an Iraqi company, which bought 1.3 million shares from an oil products transport company at a value of 1,500 Iraqi dinars per share; while the second was concluded by a foreign company, which bought 565,160 shares from the real estate al-Mamoura company at a value of 1,750 Iraqi dinars per share.

The Iraqi Stock Exchange holds three sessions a week: Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday.

http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=78637&NrIssue=2&NrSection=2

-- May 8, 2008 3:00 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

New budget allocations reported


Technicians are working on a power station of Dana Gas Company in Kurdistan Region. PRESS PHOTO
The Globe- Erbil

37.7% of Kurdistan budget allocated for investment.

KRG Minister of Planning, Othman Shwani, says the KRG and Kurdistan Parliament have decided to allocate 37.7% of Kurdistan's total budget to investment projects.

Shwani said the amount is classified into 24.2% for Municipality Ministry projects, 21.3% for Ministry of Electricity projects, 14.6% for the projects of the Ministry of Reconstruction, 5.4% for the Ministry of Health, 4.3% for the Ministry of Education, and 5.5% for the Ministry of Agriculture.
Kurdistan Region gets 17% of the Iraqi budget, which is $7 billion (USD); this amount should increase as the price of oil rises.

Shwani added that this amount, 37.7%, is divided into three parts. The first part will be spent on unfinished projects already started; there are 766 unfinished projects and the KRG has allocated $1 trillion, 84 million dinars to finish them.

The second part of the amount will be spent on 688 new projects proposed by the ministries, for which the KRG has allocated $1 trillion, 299 billion, and 816 million dinars.

The third and last part will be spent on developing the three provinces of Kurdistan: Erbil, Sulaimaniya, and Duhok. The KRG has allocated 495 billion dinars for 677 projects proposed by the three governorates: 180 billion dinars for Erbil province; 200 billion dinars for Sulaimaniya province; and 115 billion dinars for Duhok.

Meanwhile, the Kurdistan Region Parliament passed the distribution of the budgets allocated to the presidencies and a number of ministries. The budget for the presidency of Kurdistan Region is 45 billion, 222 million dinars; presidency of KRG budget is 54 billion, 16 million dinars; and presidency of Parliament budget is 54 billion, 908 million dinars. The Ministry of Education budget is 79 billion, 430 million dinars; the Ministry of Higher Education budget is 191 billion, 619 million dinars; 62 billion, 95 million dinars is allocated to the Ministry of Reconstruction and Housing budget and 353 billion, 728 billion dinars is from the capital of public services. For the Ministry of Agriculture, 116 billion, 212 million dinars is allocated from the expense budget, additionally 48 billion, 624 million dinars is allocated from the capital of the public services. The Ministry of Water Resources could get $13 billion, 488 billion dinars from the budget of works and dinars from the budget and 83 billion, 885 billion dinars as extra from the capital of the projects. The Ministries of Interior and Region received 627 billion, 59 billion dinars, while 21 billion, 450 million dinars was provided to the Ministry of Region alone; 11 billion, 165 million dinars is added to the Ministry of Interior from the capital of the projects.

It is expected that the allocated budgets to the remaining ministries will be set by vote and revealed in the coming sessions.
(www.kurdishglobe.net)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 4:08 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

Did not mean to offend by using the word pessimistic. I understand being a little impatient at the slow movement inside Iraq. Believe me, I to am impatient.

In the long term I know we are both bullish on Iraq, especially the Dinar. If we were not we would not be invested in it.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 4:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraqi army says Iraqi al-Qaida leader arrested
May 8, 2008

BAGHDAD (AP) -- The leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Ayyub al-Masri, was arrested in the northern city of Mosul, the Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman said Thursday. Mohammed al-Askari said the arrest of al-Masri, also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, was confirmed to him by the Iraqi commander of the province. There was no immediate confirmation or comment from U.S. forces.

News of the arrest was also reported by Iraqi state television.

"The commander of Ninevah military operations informed me that Iraqi troops captured Abu Hamza al-Muhajir the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq," al-Askari told The Associated Press by telephone.

Al-Masri took over al-Qaida in Iraq after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed June 7, 2006 in a U.S. airstrike northeast of Baghdad.

U.S. officials said al-Masri joined an extremist group led by al-Qaida's No.2 official. He later joined al-Qaida training camps in Afghanistan in 1999 and trained as a car bombing expert before traveling to Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_AL_QAIDA?SITE=LYCOS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

-- May 8, 2008 4:50 PM


cornishboy wrote:


Money supply more than 6 billion dollars
Baghdad life - 08/05/08

An official source at the Iraqi Ministry of Finance, the money supply more than 8 trillion dinars (about 6.67 billion U.S. dollars), and rolling them over 6 trillion dinars, and it features real purchasing power and stable.

The source ruled out the idea of lifting three zeroes from the dinar, as did Turkey and Italy, saying that, even if it happened in future, will not affect the value of payments, or make it more easily in circulation.

And the possibility of lifting the value of the dinar against other currencies, particularly the dollar, he pointed out that this process is beyond the balance of the market economy and capacity currently, because raise the value of the dinar is not consistent with economic reality and its applications., especially at a time when industrial production did not exceed the 25 Iraqi percent of the Real energy, while the unemployment levels to about 38 percent.

He attributed the source who reviewed the report of the Baghdad Chamber of Commerce, rapid improvement in the value of the dinar a year ago to speculating in foreign currencies, which will improve emergency leave only if the recession.
The source confirmed the Central Bank of Iraq dinar rate stability before foreign currencies.

http://translate.google.com/translat...N%26as_qdr%3Dd

-- May 8, 2008 7:39 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq's next door neighbor..
showing how neighborly and friendly they can be to those in the neighborhood:

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Report: Ahmadinejad Calls Israel a ‘Stinking Corpse’ on its 60th Birthday
Thursday, May 08, 2008

It’s Israel’s party but Iran's president will apparently mock it if he wants to.

While world leaders sent the Jewish state congratulations on its 60th anniversary, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's birthday wish was that the “Zionist regime” be annihilated, according to the Agence France-Presse.

"Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken," Ahmadinejad told the official IRNA news agency.

He went on to compare Israel to a “dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese,” making reference to a 2006 war between the Jewish state and Hezbollah, the AFP reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354645,00.html

-- May 8, 2008 8:06 PM


Anonymous wrote:

traded at 1200 dinar t0 1 dollar today

-- May 8, 2008 9:57 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Cornishboy:

I hate to be negative, but the statement you posted is from an anonymous person from the ministry of finance. I think I will wait for an offical anouncement from the CBI.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 10:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad water shortage
By Tim Cocks
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Baghdad's crumbling roads, burst sewage pipes and chronic water shortages are casualties of war that get little attention amid the daily litany of gunfights, bombs and bloodletting in Iraq.


A U.S. soldier stands guard at the site of the U.S. military proposed water plant project in New Baghdad district April 30, 2008. (REUTERS/Thaier al-Sudani)
As summer approaches, the city is facing an acute shortage of drinking water despite the efforts of officials like Sadiq Shumari, its director of water services.

Temperatures are set to reach 50 Celsius and demand for the precious commodity will outstrip supply.

"We have a huge task to rehabilitate the water system, which has been neglected for decades, but it's a challenge with such poor security," Shumari told Reuters on a trip to the eastern neighbourhood of New Baghdad, one of the city's poorest.

"Insecurity is a problem, but what doesn't get as noticed is how it hinders the provision of services which the people need to live," he said, before two loud blasts nearby sent him and some U.S. troops running for cover inside a building.

Lying far to the east of the Tigris River as it snakes through Baghdad's more upmarket districts, the dusty, overcrowded streets of New Baghdad are visibly poor.

Children in torn clothes play in the dirt, next to festering piles of trash and opaque puddles of stagnant water.

A man wearing a traditional long, white robe sits on a brick outside his house listening to an old battery-powered radio.

Next to him, a child attempts to negotiate a path between a ditch full of foul-smelling rainwater and a manmade mountain of polythene bags, Coke cans, plastic bottles and cigarette packets.

Even the services in Sadr City, a notoriously deprived slum to the north of New Baghdad and home to 2 million people -- where U.S. and Iraqi forces are battling Shi'ite militiamen loyal to populist cleric Moqtada al-Sadr -- are more reliable than here.

SCARCE WATER

For the relatively well-off, scarce drinking water means forking out precious cash on expensive bottled water.

"We're afraid of the tap water because of the germs," said Um-Sara, a 54-year-old housewife, walking out of a shop balancing a 5-gallon water bottle on her shoulder.

Poorer residents, like Sami Mahmoud, use water pumps to draw ground water into storage tanks -- when power permits. But the water isn't safe. Cholera epidemics have flared up in the past from people drilling their own wells into unclean reserves.

It all makes plenty of work for plumbers like Hussein Jawad.

"My business is up in summer," he said. "There isn't enough water, so I install pumps and tanks. We're making good money."

Baghdad authorities say they are working hard to build big water treatment plants with sufficient capacity to slake the thirst of the whole city. But these will not come online until late 2009.

U.S. officials have offered help with a short-term fix.

A project overseen by U.S. Brigadier-General Mike Milano will install purification facilities in a joint U.S. and Iraqi security station, then pipe the water into containers to be distributed to neighbourhoods by truck.

"There's going to be a potable water problem this summer in Baghdad. Programmes ongoing to correct that shortage are not going to be finished in time," Milano told Reuters at the site.

"We're looking at how we can provide capability. This is a bridge between where they are now and where they'll be."

Iraq's services -- its water, sanitation and electricity -- have been in a dismal state since the 2003 invasion to topple Saddam Hussein. Years of war, sabotage and neglect have crippled infrastructure and hobbled reconstruction efforts.

Corruption is endemic and has swallowed up billions of dollars of aid money before it reaches its intended projects.

American support for Iraqi reconstruction has become increasingly controversial at home. Last week, the Senate Armed Services Committee approved a law prohibiting the Pentagon from funding programmes costing more than $2 million.

Many U.S. legislators want the deficit-laden United States to scale back its aid to an Iraqi government running a healthy budget surplus on the back of record high oil prices.

But Milano thinks the United States has a duty to help Iraq rebuild. "Our principle mission is protecting the population. Providing services is protecting the population -- ensuring they have sufficient water, electricity, sewage, health clinics."
(www.thestar.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 10:40 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bolton on whether Bush might bomb Iran before he leaves office: ‘I think so, definitely.’

Think Progress
Thursday, May 8, 2008

In a Fox News interview this afternoon, former UN Ambassador John Bolton discussed his desire to bomb camps inside Iran that are reportedly training and arming Shiite insurgents who fight in Iraq. Fox host Martha McCallum asked, “Can you imagine a scenario where President Bush would do that before the end of his term?” Bolton responded, “I think so, definitely.” He added later, “This is entirely responsible on our part.”
(http://infowars.net/articles/may2008/080508Bolton.htm)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 10:45 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Regarding the above article just posted, I left out one telling statement:

Asked by McCallum whether Israel would be supportive of the strikes given the possibility of Iranian retaliation, Bolton responded, “I think they’d be delighted.”

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 8, 2008 10:50 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Shiite fighting fans Iran-US feud

Political rivalry within Iraq's Shiite majority which erupted into deadly street fighting has swiftly escalated into a new confrontation between arch-foes Washington and Tehran.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 9, 2008 9:23 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad press criticizes officials' performance

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Baghdad, 09 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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An Iraqi newspaper on Thursday criticized the government for setting up a fact-finding committee to investigate Iranian interference in Iraqi affairs, while another paper slammed government officials, citing their poor performance and their attempts to claim authority for themselves.

Dar al-Salam newspaper, the daily mouthpiece of the Iraqi Islamic Party led by Tareq Hashem, said in an article entitled, 'Security committee to examine interference,' that the interference of neighbor Iran in Iraq's domestic affairs is as clear as day. The newspaper said that while some Iraqi politicians expressed their keenness for a new round of U.S.-Iranian talks, which they said will best serve Iraq's interests, Iranians have set conditions for the resumption of negotiations. Quoting an Iranian news agency, the newspaper said that an Iranian delegate called on the U.S. forces to stop "its acts of aggression against the Iraqi people" as a condition for the resumption of talks, in reference to the campaign launched by the government against militia groups in Baghdad and Basra.

"We have never heard of Iranian objections to military operations in Iraq, except for those that have been carried out by joint forces since last month… In fact, the role that Iran played in the occupation of Iraq, which is no longer deniable, does not harmonize with its recent concerns and objections to the aggression against the Iraqi people," the newspaper said.

The newspaper said that the fact-finding committee will be comprised of representatives from the security ministries and government officials, which it said need no further proof of Iranian interference in Iraq.

Meanwhile, al-Daawa, a daily newspaper issued by the Islamic Daawa Party, Iraq Organization, blamed the current destruction and the deteriorating political situation on Iraqi politicians, whom it said are derailing the progress of democracy in the country.

"Participants of the political process should have a national and ethical responsibility to the public," the newspaper wrote, calling on politicians to unify and tolerate differences.

Al-Mawqif, an independent daily, lamented the decline in moral standards and the spread of violence in Iraqi society, which it said has been aspiring for freedom and democracy throughout four decades of its history.

The newspaper further called on religious, social and cultural institutions to rehabilitate society and to foster an understanding of the principles of justice and tolerance in young people.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 9, 2008 9:26 AM


Sara wrote:

Now saying it is "a case of mistaken identity..."

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Al Qaeda leader in Iraq not detained - U.S. military
09/05/2008

BAGHDAD, (Reuters) - A man seized by Iraqi forces is not the head of al Qaeda in Iraq, a senior U.S. military official said on Friday, following an announcement by several Iraqi officials that Abu Ayyub al-Masri had been captured.

Iraqi security sources had already begun to cast doubt on the earlier announcement that Masri, an Egyptian also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, had been captured in an operation in Mosul on Wednesday. One senior security source in Mosul said the man seized in that raid was an Iraqi. "He has not been detained," the U.S. military official told Reuters, without giving further details.

It is not the first time there has been confusion over the fate of Masri. Iraq's Interior Ministry said a year ago he had been killed, but soon afterwards Sunni Islamist al Qaeda released an audio tape purportedly from him.

The detention of Masri would have been another blow for al Qaeda, which has been forced to regroup in northern Iraq after a wave of U.S. military assaults in the past year.

Earlier, Interior Ministry spokesman Major-General Abdul-Karim Khalaf said a detained associate of Masri took Iraqi security forces late on Wednesday to where the al Qaeda leader was hiding.

After being detained, the man confessed to being the al Qaeda in Iraq leader, he said.

Duraid Kashmula, the governor of Nineveh province of which Mosul is the capital, had told Reuters he was certain the detained man was Masri.

http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=1&id=12681

-- May 9, 2008 9:39 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It seems a limited strike on Iran seems to have moved from theory to becoming more likely than not. Even a limited strike could see the price of a barrel of oil increase significantly.

The Dinar in my opinion is still an investment worthy to be involved in. The amount of return could be staggering. A subdued Iran can only benefit our troops on the ground. An Iraq free from the influence of Iran can further the work of the GoI toward a peaceful and prosperous Iraq. Finally, a Iraq free from the influence from Iran will further isolate Al-Sadr and aid to diminish his influence within the country.


Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 9, 2008 9:59 AM


Sara wrote:

I agree with your assessment that things are moving along toward a confrontation, Rob N.
As I said before, the US will have to deal with Iran sooner or later...
they are becoming more and more a problem not only in Iraq, but to the region as well.

Sara.

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AFGHANISTAN: TWO IRANIAN MEN DETAINED ON SUSPICIONS OF SPYING
5/07/08
A EurasiaNet Partner Post from RFE/RL

Two Iranian men have been detained in Afghanistan in separate incidents on suspicion of spying near NATO and Afghan military installations.

Ghulam Dastagir Azad, the governor of Afghanistan’s southwestern province of Nimroz, told RFE/RL’s Radio Free Afghanistan that one of the detained men was captured with documents and photographs that prove he had links with militants.

Azad said the man was captured trying to enter the city of Zarang, on the border with Iran. "He had a camera that had photographs of weaponry indicating clear ties with [Afghanistan’s] enemies," Azad said.

In a second incident, near Afghanistan’s southeastern border with Pakistan, authorities say they detained an Iranian man who was preparing information for what they believe was an attack against NATO and Afghan security forces.

Meanwhile, Afghan security forces say they discovered a large cache of weapons in the western Afghan province of Herat, just 10 kilometers from the Iranian border. Authorities say they suspect the weapons were sent from Iran and were intended for the Taliban.

Ramatullah Safi, chief of border police in western Afghanistan, told Radio Free Afghanistan that some of the weapons contained Iranian markings.

"The cache contained one mortar shell, 785 land mines, and 445 tripod-mounted machine guns," Safi said. "There also was a lot of ammunition -- 2,400 boxes of ammunition for Kalashnikov assault rifles, 85 rocket-propelled grenades, and other ammunition."

The Afghan government has not commented on the significance of the arrests or the discovery of the weapons cache. But Richard Boucher, the assistant U.S. secretary of state for south and Central Asia, told reporters in Paris on May 6 that Iran is interfering in Afghanistan in "a variety of different ways -- perhaps not as violently as they sometimes do in Iraq."

Boucher concluded that Iran is seeking to keep Afghanistan weak and unstable by delivering weapons to the Taliban while ostensibly supporting the central government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai. He said Washington sees "Iranian interference politically" in terms of money that Tehran channels into Afghanistan’s political process, as well as interference aimed at undermining the Afghan state by playing off local Afghan officials against Karzai’s government.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/pp050708.shtml

-- May 9, 2008 11:53 AM


Sara wrote:

In a time when the country is at war..
Surely there is merit to electing a man with combat experience and decorations gained honorably?

==

Navy releases McCain's military record
May 7, 2008
By JIM KUHNHENN

WASHINGTON (AP) - From his five years in a North Vietnamese prison camp to his tenure as the Navy's liaison to the Senate, John McCain's Navy record boils down to a series of unadorned paragraphs that bestow upon him some of the nation's top military honors.

The Navy recently released McCain's military record - most of it citations for medals during his Navy career - after a Freedom of Information Act request by The Associated Press.

McCain was awarded a Silver Star Medal for resisting "extreme mental and physical cruelties" inflicted upon him by his captors from late October to early December 1967, the early months of his captivity, according to the citation. The North Vietnamese, according to the Navy, ignored international agreements and tortured McCain "in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes."

McCain, now the Republican Party's likely presidential nominee, was taken prisoner in October 1967 after he was shot down while on a mission over Hanoi. He wasn't freed until March 1973, after the United States signed peace agreements with the North Vietnamese. His captors tortured him and held him in solitary confinement. Still, he declined an offer of early release until those who had been at the prison longer than him were let go.

That decision earned McCain a Navy Commendation Medal. Although McCain was "crippled from serious and ill-treated injuries," he steadfastly refused offers of freedom from those holding him prisoner. "His selfless action served as an example to others and his forthright refusal, by giving emphasis to the insidious nature of such releases, may have prevented a possibly chaotic deterioration in prisoner discipline," the citation says.

McCain attended the U.S. Naval Academy from 1954 to 1958, and was commissioned as an ensign in June of that year. He retired in April 1981 with the rank of captain. In that time he received 17 awards and decorations. Besides the Silver Star Medal, McCain also received the Legion of Merit with a combat "V" and one gold star, a Distinguished Flying Cross and a Bronze Star Medal with a combat "V" and two gold stars.

Several citations mention his achievements either as a prisoner or as a lieutenant commander flying bombing runs off the deck of the USS Oriskany. Some are signed by then-Secretary of the Navy John Warner, who would become a colleague of McCain's in the Senate.

The citations refer to his "accurate ordinance delivery" and his "aggressive and skillful airmanship." He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down, for participating in a mission over an airfield in Phuc Yen, 11 miles north of Hanoi.

The citation for his Distinguished Flying Cross sums up McCain's misfortune the following day:

"Although his aircraft was severely damaged, he continued his bomb delivery pass and released his bombs on the target. When the aircraft would not recover from the dive, Commander McCain was forced to eject over the target."

Years later, as his Navy career approached its end, McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal. By then, his missions were in the halls of Congress as a liaison to the Senate from the Navy's Office of Legislative Affairs.

He was praised for providing Navy leaders "with sage advice and sound judgment for enacting critical legislation during a period of severe fiscal constraint."

The following year, he ran for Congress from Arizona, and won.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080508/D90H5S3O0.html

-- May 9, 2008 12:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Sadr aide lashes out at Iraq's senior Shiite cleric
Fri May 9, 2008

BAGHDAD (AFP) - An aide to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr lashed out on Friday at Iraq's most revered Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, for keeping silent over clashes that have killed hundreds in Baghdad.

"We are surprised by the silence in Najaf where the highest Shiite religious authority is based," Sheikh Sattar Battat said, referring to Sistani.

"For 50 days Sadr City is being bombed ... Children, women and old people are being killed and Najaf remains silent," he told the faithful at the weekly Friday prayers in Sadr City, Sadr's stronghold.

Battat said the Sadr movement has not seen any "reaction or fatwa (religious decree) from Najaf" criticising the government assault on Shiite fighters in Sadr City.

On Friday, Sheikh Battat also launched a fresh tirade against Maliki, who he said was "murdering people with the help of a foreign state."

"What the government is doing is a crime against the people."

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080509/world/iraq_unrest_sadr_sistani

Actually, endorsing those who are fomenting rebellion against the government and are responsible for the killing of many "children, women and old people" in Iraq would not be a smart move by Mr. Ali al-Sistani. As the article posted here before shows (url and summary below), most of those who are killed are innocents caught in the crossfire and killed with the guns and ammo of the Sadr militiants, not by the US, who has been at pains to keep the civilian casualties as low as possible. If the Sadr militiants simply gave up their weapons and their desire to take over the country of Iraq for their leader and rule it themselves by force - if they would acknowledging the right of the government of Iraq to exist and to impose law on the behalf of all those in Iraq who elected them - the resulting peace would end these slayings they say they deplore. Seeking a sanctioning "fatwa" upon their insurrection and murderous escapades - which harm the Iraqi people and those seeking to uphold the rule of law in Iraq - is not honorable.. nor would it be honorable to grant them such a sanction.

Sara.

CF article: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_1.html#134582 which contains these statements:

"When the government attacks the militias, the victims are civilians. And when the militias fight the government, the victims are also civilians," said Sadik Jabbar Hashem, a neighbor. "The person who fired this knew it would land here among families," he said, referring to the rocket that killed the four people that day.

The ongoing fighting has claimed numerous civilian lives and may be turning public opinion against the Mahdi army and Iran, which United States officials say is a major backer of the militia. The Mahdi army is linked to the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr. Katyusha rockets like the one that killed Kathum and Mansour are fired only by the militia, not by American forces, and the men's family had little doubt where they came from.

"The U.S. Army came an hour after the explosion," Hashem said. "They dug the rocket out of the ground and showed it to me. It had Iranian markings." Several family members cursed Iran and blamed it for trying to destabilize Iraq.

As visitors passed through the room, there was the crash of another rocket landing in the neighborhood, minutes later a second, then a third. Hameed, already nearly hysterical with grief, shouted, "can you imagine? Even more victims in these explosions."

-- May 9, 2008 5:35 PM


Sara wrote:

Note also that the Sadr cleric in Iraq is echoing the words of IRAN:

==

U.S. Rocket Hits Near Hospital
By SHASHANK BENGALI
McClatchy Newspapers
May 4, 2008

BAGHDAD - — A major hospital in Baghdad's Sadr City slum was damaged Saturday when an American military strike targeted a militia command center nearby, the U.S. military said.

The U.S. military is facing growing criticism over what residents describe as mounting civilian casualties in Sadr City, a densely populated slum of some 2.5 million people, which has seen heavy clashes over the past six weeks between U.S. and Iraqi forces and militiamen loyal to the hard-line Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

A senior Iranian official accused the U.S. military of attacking Iraqi civilians, telling the official Fars News Agency that Iran would pull out of talks with the United States on Iraqi security unless the attacks stopped. The countries held three rounds of talks last year on Iraq — the highest level bilateral talks since 1980 — and are due to meet again this year.

U.S. military officials have repeatedly said they try to avoid civilian casualties. They accuse Iran of arming and training Iraqi militias, a charge that Tehran denies.

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-iraq0504.artmay04,0,1337390.story

-- May 9, 2008 5:50 PM


Sara wrote:

Rasmussen gives up on Hillary saying THE RACE IS OVER.. and now moves to Obama vs McCain

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Friday, May 09, 2008

Rasmussen Reports has been tracking the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination daily for nineteen months… since November 2006. For the last few months, the most remarkable feature of the race has been its consistency and stability. Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both running historic campaigns and both have captured the votes and hearts of distinct and important constituencies within the Democratic Party. Obama has won Primaries in states where the demographics favor his campaign and Clinton has won in the states that favor her campaign.

However, while Senator Clinton has remained close and competitive in every meaningful measure, she is a close second and the race is over. It has become clear that Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

At the moment, Senator Clinton’s team is busily trying to convince Superdelegates and pundits that she is more electable than Barack Obama. For reasons discussed in a separate article, it doesn’t matter. Even if every single Superdelegate was convinced that the former First Lady is somewhat more electable than Obama, that is not enough of a reason to deny him the nomination. (See article below)

With this in mind, Rasmussen Reports will soon end our daily tracking of the Democratic race and focus exclusively on the general election competition between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Barring something totally unforeseen, that is the choice American voters will have before them in November. While we have not firmly decided upon a final day for tracking the Democratic race, it is coming soon.

Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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For Superdelegates, Electability Isn’t Enough
A Commentary by Scott Rasmussen
Friday, May 09, 2008

According to press reports, Senator Hillary Clinton sincerely believes she is more electable than Barack Obama. That is the case she wants to make to the Superdelegates who will ultimately decide the Democratic Nomination. As part of her public pitch, Clinton has said, “I'm winning Catholic voters and Hispanic voters and Blue Collar Workers and Seniors, the kind of people that Senator McCain will be fighting for in the general election.”

It is possible to assemble data that shows Clinton would be a stronger candidate than Barack Obama. It’s also possible to assemble data showing just the opposite. The reality is that Clinton and Obama represent different types of general election candidates and it’s impossible to know who would end up as the stronger candidate come November. Clinton is the lower risk candidate with less upside potential while Obama is a higher risk with significantly greater potential in both directions.

If Clinton and Obama were on equal terms at this point, she could probably make a persuasive case that the Democrats should go with the lower risk candidate since the fundamentals are so good for Democrats this year. But, the two Democrats are not on equal terms at this point. Obama has won the most pledged delegates to the convention and will soon have an absolute majority of those delegates. Clinton is asking party leaders to overturn the results of a Primary season on the grounds that she is more electable.

However, the larger reality is that the electability argument doesn’t matter. For one thing, most Democrats remain optimistic about Election 2008 and believe that either Democratic candidate will win this year. From that perspective, even if Clinton is theoretically more electable, it’s a distinction without a practical difference.

More importantly, Clinton’s belief that she is more electable rests upon the assumption that she can get the nomination without tearing the Democratic Party apart. That’s not a credible assumption in the minds of Superdelegates. The conventional wisdom is that handing the nomination to Clinton would create a Democratic civil war. No matter how it was explained, a fair number of Obama supporters would sit out the election or vote for a third party candidate. Some might even vote Republican. The bottom line is that the very process of handing her the nomination would make her unelectable.

But, in that scenario, the problems for Democrats would go far deeper. If Obama is denied the nomination, the collateral damage could reduce the number of House and Senate races that Democrats win this year. Why would any Superdelegate want to risk that?

So, for Senator Clinton, the challenge is not convincing Superdelegates that she’s more electable. Even if she could convince every single Superdelegate of that fact, it’s not enough. The standard now is much higher--Clinton also needs to convince Superdelegates that the party will stay unified behind her if Obama is denied the nomination. Unfortunately for Clinton at this time, that’s a question she cannot answer.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_scott_rasmussen/for_superdelegates_electability_isn_t_enough

-- May 9, 2008 7:39 PM


cornishboy wrote:

good read The Exchange Rate of Foreign Currency in Economic Feasibility Studies http://www.mop-iraq.org/mopdc/index.jsp?sid=1&id=287&pid=266

-- May 9, 2008 11:24 PM


Carole wrote:

Hi,

Just popping in for a minute:

Unless Mc Cain wins presidency....Hilary will be next appointed Supreme Court Justice. I predicted this over a year ago...and I hold to it!

It has been her life long ambition! Why else woud she be hanging on????? HMMMMM? waiting for a deal?????

Of course, nothing else makes sense or ties in to her lifelong agenda.

carole

-- May 10, 2008 2:48 AM


cornishboy wrote:

The Iraqi government and the Shiite al-Sadr movement agreed Saturday to quit the intense fighting

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PUKmedia 12:49 2008/05/10

The Iraqi government and the Shiite al-Sadr movement agreed Saturday to quit the intense fighting that continued since March 25 in Baghdad's Shiite Sadr City, media reports said.
However, Al-Arabiya news channel said gunfire was still heard in the Shiite enclave, despite the agreement between the government and Sadrists to stop the armed clashes.
Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has launched a security offensive codenamed Charges of the Knights against militiamen of Mahdi army loyal to radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
Thousands were killed and wounded during the clashes that lasted for two months in Sadr City, eastern Baghdad.
*****
From: M&C
http://pukmedia.com/english/Daily%20...5-10/news6.htm

-- May 10, 2008 10:32 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Owners calls to help Iraq get out of money in the Section VII

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes

10 / 05 / 2008 at 16:44:06

Called Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Saturday to help Iraq to get rid of international sanctions and exit of money from Section VII and the consequent policy because of his former regime, which he described as "senseless."

A statement issued by the Prime Minister's Office, received the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq) a copy of it, that al-Maliki came during a meeting in his office Saturday, several members of British Parliament from the Group of Friends of Iraq in the British Labour Party.
The statement said that "al-Maliki said today that Iraq is witnessing progress politically and in furtherance of granting freedoms to all its citizens without discrimination which is contrary to what was happening at a time of the former regime from power and the persecution and repression of freedoms," adding that "the image of freedom and democracy to Iraq started to become clear the new features and reflected the reality of work In the fields of Information and Culture, Arts and civil society organizations. "
He continued, al-Maliki, saying, "We are working to promote a culture of building and installing the rule of law and fighting threatens the security of all citizens and our response to terrorists and gangs is a large leap in the way of political process and the performance level of our security forces, and give definite guarantees for the protection of the Constitution and the democratic experiment."
He called al-Maliki, according to the statement, to "help Iraq to get rid of international sanctions and exit from the Section VII and the consequent him because of misguided policy of the former regime," adding that the "new Iraq is no longer governed by a dictator and refuses to be the springboard of its territory for terrorism Aomamra to harm its neighbors and the wider States in the region. "
He also called on Maliki, according to the statement, British companies to invest in Iraq and to contribute to construction projects, reconstruction and development of the Iraqi economy.
The statement quoted the members of the delegation of the British parliament saying that they support the Iraqi government and backers in every effort to achieve security and stability in Iraq and the application of law and respect for the Constitution and state sovereignty, and to stand up for its part in achieving economic and architectural projects.
The item is the seventh of the Security Council resolutions, which authorizes the use of force in any country and played a big role this item in the preface to invade Iraq in 2003.
Dr. S. K. (b) - h. N
Arabic

http://translate.google.com/translat...W4P%26pwst%3D1

-- May 10, 2008 10:36 AM


Sara wrote:

Parliament is close to voting on the law of oil and gasلى قانوالنفط والغاز
May 10, 2008

Scheduled to host the parliament today, Saturday, Agriculture Minister to discuss the problem of water scarcity in parliamentary sources confirmed that the Council is close to voting on the law of oil and gas.

و. The sources emphasized that the witness a match mobility and political developments in the country, noting that the second reading of the law of provincial council elections will be completed by today, Saturday, Sunday Ogden with a view to presenting the entire paragraphs of the law of the vote.

همه. The same sources announced an agreement to distribute money to students to help them meet the aim of the cost of living and provide appropriate conditions for them to start their education, sources quoted the Chairman of the Board of Deputies Mahmoud scene it was decided to host the Minister of Agriculture at a meeting today, Saturday, for the purpose of examining the problem of water scarcity.

و. The Ministry of Water Resources had announced two weeks ago that the revenues of water for the Euphrates and Tigris rivers and tributaries plummeted this year as a result of large scarcity of rainfall throughout Iraq and the rates were very low compared to previous years, where hitting 30 percent of the overall rate of rainfall in the country.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiodijla.com/cgi-bin/news/item.pl%3Fid%3D1210411702%26d%3D20080510%26w%3D6%26h%3D13%26m%3D28
hattip arh777

-- May 10, 2008 11:01 AM


Sara wrote:

Sadr militia agrees to let Iraqi troops into Sadr City
By Leila Fadel
McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Friday, May 9, 2008

BAGHDAD — Followers of rebel cleric Muqtada al Sadr agreed late Friday to allow Iraqi security forces to enter all of Baghdad's Sadr City and to arrest anyone found with heavy weapons in a surprising capitulation that seemed likely to be hailed as a major victory for Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki.

In return, Sadr's Mahdi Army supporters won the Iraqi government's agreement not to arrest Mahdi Army members without warrants, unless they were in possession of "medium and heavy weaponry."

The agreement would end six weeks of fighting in the vast Shiite Muslim area that's home to more than 2 million residents and would mark the first time that the area would be under government control since Saddam Hussein was toppled in 2003. On Friday, 15 people were killed and 112 were injured in fighting, officials at the neighborhoods two major hospitals said.

It also would be a startling turnaround in fortunes for Maliki. Members of Maliki's Dawa Party and the powerful Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq met with Sadr officials on Thursday and Friday to come up with a 14-point agreement to end the weeks of fighting, which has hindered the flow of food and water into Sadr City. The agreement was then passed to Sadr and Maliki for final approval, said Baha al Araji, a Sadrist legislator.

A government supporter said the Sadrists were brought to the table by the anger of Sadr City residents. On Thursday, the Iraqi military ordered Sadr City residents to evacuate in apparent preparation for a major offensive push.

"It is not the government who pressured the Sadrists into entering this agreement," said Ali al Adeeb, a leading member of the Dawa party. "It is the pressure from the people inside Sadr City and from their own people that will make them act more responsibly."

The Mahdi Army, and the Sadr movement in general, has been losing support in the past two months in the face of a government offensive intended to force the militia from its controlling positions in Basra and Sadr City.

In Basra, a city known for culture and music, Shiite extremists had taken control in late 2005 and began shutting down music stories and forcing women to cover themselves.

But after initially resisting Maliki's offensive, the Sadrists ceded their areas, and the change in atmosphere has been palpable. An annual poetry festival, al Mirbed, resumed for the first time in three years, with male and female folk dancers performing in public and poets spouting their verses.

The city isn't free of Sadr influences, however, though the Iraqi army seems ready to quell any resurgence. Sadrists resumed prayer services on Friday for the first time since late March, but as the imam spouted anti-government rhetoric, Iraqi soldiers converged on the mosque and the Sadrists ran, witnesses said.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/36530.html

-- May 10, 2008 4:45 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Could the following be true? If so, it could explain why the HCL has not passed the Iraqi Parliment yet. This was posted on another forum, I thought I would share it here.

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Disclosure of secret deals between Maliki and foreign companies before oil law
The total value of each to about 500 million dollars

Source said that the Iraqi oil industry of Iraq in an advanced stage of talks on an oil services contract with the consortium of companies includes the assumption of the Anandarko and Dom to enhance production by 100 thousand barrels per day maximum to attempt oil.

This comes at a time when the U.S. administration grappling and Tehran to contain al-Maliki government and the political choices internally and externally.

Oil contract in question was the sixth in the group of oil service contracts short-term value of each to about $ 500 million wish in Iraq signed with international companies in June.

Baghdad seeks to increase production by 600 thousand barrels a day through agreements over the country's oil production is currently about $ 2.25 million bpd more than one quarter.

The source said "is expected to hold final round of meetings with the consortium and with all the companies that negotiate those contracts end of this month and that all companies involved in finalizing the documents for the initialling of the agreements in early June."

Participated consortium, which includes oil trading company Ventola and European oil company and gas independent American company Anandarko and Dom, based in Dubai in two rounds of talks with Iraqi officials already in the Jordanian capital Amman regarding the contract. It is to attempt a field in southern Iraq and produces approximately 50 thousand barrels a day.

He said Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Shahrastani last month that he wished to sign service contracts negotiated by Iraq with international oil companies in June, but the Baghdad might abandon its attempt to reach agreements.

And negotiate me. Bi and Royal Dutch Shell and Exxon Mobil each separately on a separate contract. While Shell is negotiating an agreement on the fourth with me. Watch. Bi Cielito are Chevron and Total both talks on the fifth agreement.

The service contract is part of temporary measures to promote production in light of the insistence of the Iraqi Parliament to ratify the Law of oil.

http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=EN&ie=UTF-8

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 10, 2008 11:32 PM


Steve wrote:

-- May 11, 2008 3:23 AM


cornishboy wrote:

2012 Alarm Call : Time To Evolve Ideas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT7Bct372uE&feature=related

-- May 11, 2008 7:45 PM


cornishboy wrote:

2012 Alarm Call : The 5 Year Countdown Has Begun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDLZ9_McBXg&feature=related

-- May 11, 2008 7:56 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Establishing economic conference in Baghdad to address monetary policy in Iraq-MONDAY

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5-11-08

Establishing economic conference in Baghdad to address monetary policy in Iraq

The Chairman of the Federation of Iraqi businessmen, that the economic conference will be held on the morning rally on Monday in the Iraqi capital Baghdad to discuss monetary policy and financial system reform and addressing the issue of inflation in Iraq.

The Blibl Reza Ragheb, the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq), "The conference will be held at ten o'clock tomorrow morning hours of Monday in the Palace Hotel Rashid in Baghdad, will address the monetary policy and Kiffa reform of the financial system and addressing the issue of inflation in Iraq, in a serious attempt to assess the situation Economic and study the findings and recommendations given by this conference. "

Blibl He added that the conference "a direct interest by the Government, through the auspices Adviser to the Prime Minister for Economic Affairs Abdul-Hussein Al-Anbuge of the Conference and the participation of a number of officials in the departments and economic organizations and businessmen."

He continued Blibl that the conference "will witness highlight the many important topics in the Iraqi economy, including state support for the private sector, in addition to the problem of the productive sectors paralyzed today in Iraq." He explained that the main problems of investment in Iraq "stopped more than 85% of industrial enterprises since the eighties of the last century, leads the Iraqi market to rely on imported goods rather than local."
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.alnajafnews.net/najafnews/news.php%3Faction%3Dfullnews%26id%3D56999&prev=/language_tools

-- May 11, 2008 9:48 PM


Steve wrote:


Hi Cornishboy,
Have you tried getting back on that
Feasibility study, it just times out, every time

Iraq has issued the 5,000-dinar note signed by the governor of the Central Bank, Sinan Al Shibeebi. This note was previously signed by the deputy governor, Falih Dawood Salman. The date of the new note is 2006, as opposed to the earlier issue which was dated 2003.

-- May 11, 2008 9:58 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq to participate in Egypt's WEF meetings

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Monday , 12 /05 /2008 Time 4:55:26




Baghdad, May 8, (VOI) – Iraqi politicians and economists will take part in the upcoming meetings of the World Economic Forum (WEF) on the Middle East, scheduled to be held in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm al-Sheikh from May 18-20, an informed source from the Iraqi embassy in Cairo said on Thursday.
"Adel Abdul Mahdi, the deputy prime minister, and a number of ministers concerned with economy and trade are expected to take part in the panels held during the forum," the source, who requested anonymity, told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The 2008 WEF will be organized by the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Industry in the Sharm al-Sheikh resort, with the participation of official and unofficial figures, businessmen, and investors, the source noted. Invitations have been sent to heads of states and foreign and trade ministers from over 70 Arab and foreign countries, he added.
This year's summit will tackle several political-economic and development issues, with particular emphasis on the Middle East, according to the same source.
Among the issues on the summit's agenda are the achievement of stability in Iraq and the effect of international competition, particularly from huge forces like the United States, the European Union, China, Russia, and India on the Middle East, the source explained.
Challenges facing the tourism sector in the Middle East, the optimal use of resources, cash flows, the effect of the higher rates of inflation on local markets and the role of governments in handling the economic crisis are also on the agenda, he added.

The World Economic Forum (WEF) is a Geneva-based foundation whose annual meeting of top business leaders, national political leaders, and selected intellectuals and journalists is usually held in Davos, Switzerland. It was founded in 1971 by a business professor.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 12, 2008 10:47 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Zain Iraq and Nokia Siemens Networks sign a $150m network modernization contract

Zain Iraq, the country’s leading mobile operator has signed up Nokia Siemens Networks in a $150m contract to increase capacity while also simplifying and modernizing its existing core network.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 12, 2008 10:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi military arrest 78 wanted men in Mosul

Military and Security 5/12/2008 4:54:00 PM



IRBIL, May 12 (KUNA) -- The Iraqi military arrested 78 wanted men and 119 suspects during a raid operation in the northern city of Mosul, Iraqi military Command in Ninowa said in a statement on Monday.
The statement noted that an improvised bomb was also discovered during the military raid and inspection operation against terrorists in the city.
Earlier, the Iraqi command lifted the curfew on pedestrians in the early hours today which started last Friday, however the curfew remains active on vehicles inside the city.
The curfew will gradually be lifted completely soon, the statement added.
Two days ago, the Iraqi military command began a wide military campaign against Al-Qaeda in the city.(end) sbr.mb KUNA 121654 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 12, 2008 10:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Disagreements mar truce deal between government and Al Sadr men
By Alexandra Zavis

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Baghdad, 12 May 2008 (Los Angeles Times)
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The Iraqi government and representatives of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Al Sadr have announced that they had struck a deal to halt weeks of fighting in a Baghdad slum. But disagreements over the content of the accord cast doubt on whether it would end the bloodshed.

The extent of the deal between the government and Al Sadr's supporters, which was brokered by lawmakers and was scheduled to take effect on Sunday, quickly became murky.

Under the terms announced by the cleric's lead negotiator, Shaikh Salah Obeidi, Al Sadr's Mahdi Army militia would set aside their weapons and allow the government to pursue individuals wanted for attacks, provided that there is a warrant.

In return, the government would stop what he called "random" raids and open blocked roads into the cleric's Baghdad stronghold, Sadr City.

Obeidi said the document made no mention of the government's demand that the militia disband and surrender its medium and heavy-grade weapons, points the cleric's representatives are not prepared to discuss.

But Ali Dabbagh, a spokesman for Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki, said all sides had agreed that only the government is authorised to maintain an army and impose law.

"The government has the right to raid and search any place that is suspected to contain heavy and medium weapons," he said in a statement.

Obeidi also said the agreement allows only Iraqi forces to conduct raids in Sadr City, not the US military. But Dabbagh said that the deal did not address the role of foreign troops, a point underscored by Hadi Ameri, a member of the ruling alliance's negotiating team.

'US will keep bombing'

"There is no point that prevents the Americans from performing military operations in Sadr City," Ameri said. "The US forces are and will continue bombing ... the places that are launching mortar rounds or rockets at their bases and/or the Green Zone."

Even if the discrepancies can be ironed out, it remains to be seen whether the gunmen who claim allegiance to the cleric in Sadr City will honour the accord.

The US military publicly maintains that those fighting in Sadr City are members of breakaway factions who have disregarded a unilateral ceasefire declared by Al Sadr in August. But commanders privately concede that the uprising in Sadr City has become more widespread in recent weeks.

The US military said it had not been informed of Saturday's truce.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 12, 2008 10:54 AM


Sara wrote:

The claim that President Bush and the "neocons" politicized intelligence to show that Saddam Hussein's regime had weapons of mass destruction has been proven false as the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Silberman-Robb Commission have concluded already.
Quote:

Rethinking the Iraq Critics
By Michael Barone
May 12, 2008

In trying to understand news about the conflicts in Iraq, I work to keep in mind the difference between what we know now about decision making in World War II and what most Americans knew at the time. From the memoirs and documents published after the war, we've learned how leaders made critical judgments. But at the time, even well-informed journalists only could guess at what was going on behind the scenes.

Today we're only beginning to learn about what went on behind the scenes in regard to Iraq. One important new source is the recently published "War and Decision" by Douglas Feith, the No. 3 civilian at the Pentagon from 2001 to 2005. Feith quotes extensively from unpublished documents and contemporary memorandums, just as in the late 1940s Robert Sherwood did in "Roosevelt and Hopkins" and Winston Churchill did in his World War II histories. The picture Feith paints is at considerable variance from the narratives with which we've become familiar.

One such narrative is, "Bush lied; people died." The claim is that "neocons," including Feith, politicized intelligence to show that Saddam Hussein's regime had weapons of mass destruction. Not so, as the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Silberman-Robb Commission have concluded already. Every intelligence agency believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and the post-invasion Duelfer report concluded that he maintained the capability to produce them on short notice. There was abundant evidence of contacts between Saddam's regime and al-Qaida and other terrorist groups. Given Saddam's hostility to the United States and his stonewalling of the United Nations, American leaders had every reason to believe he posed a grave threat. Removing him removed that threat.

Unfortunately — and here Feith is critical of his ultimate boss, George W. Bush — the administration allowed its critics to frame the issue around the fact that stockpiles of weapons weren't found. Here we see at work the liberal fallacy, apparent in debates on gun control, that weapons are the problem rather than the people with the capability and will to use them to kill others. The fact that millions of law-abiding Americans have guns is not a problem; the problem is that criminals can get them and have the will to kill others. Similarly, the fact that France has WMDs is not a problem; the fact that Saddam Hussein had the capability to produce WMDs and the will to use them against us was.

Feith identifies as our central mistake the decision not to create an Iraqi Interim Authority to take over some sovereign functions soon after the overthrow of Saddam. Bush ordered the creation of such an authority March 10, 2003. But it was resisted by State Department and CIA leaders, who argued that Iraqis would not trust "externals" — those in exile — and who were especially determined to keep the Iraqi National Congress' Ahmed Chalabi from power. As head of the Coalition Provisional Authority, Paul Bremer took the State-CIA view and, without much supervision from Washington, decided that the U.S. occupation would continue for as long as two years. Only deft negotiation by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld produced a June 30, 2004, deadline for returning authority to Iraqis. The January 2005 elections placed many of the "externals," including Chalabi, in high office.

Feith admits he made mistakes and misjudgments. He criticizes Bush for not defending the main rationale for invasion — protecting Americans from a genuine threat — and instead emphasizing the subsidiary and iffy goal of establishing democracy. He says little about military operations, beyond noting that Bremer and the military leaders had no common approach to combating disorder.

There's still much to be learned about our decisions, good and bad, in Iraq. But Feith's book is a step forward, as were those of Sherwood and Churchill 60 years ago.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michael/barone.php3

I have to disagree with Feith saying that President Bush should have stuck to ONLY protecting America from threat as the rationale for invasion. It was because President Bush emphasized the good he was attempting to accomplish FOR THE IRAQIS - giving them a free Democracy - that the tide was changed concerning the Iraqi people supporting the American/coalition troops against the terrorists. If he had remained emphasizing ONLY the protection of the US from attack (which is a legitimate goal of any country), the Iraqis would not have seen what they would get out of it, and maybe not supported the US/coalition.. which was a key in turning the battle against the terrorists.

The American and coalition forces needed the support of the people.. they got it, but only because the people of Iraq saw that they would get a free and Democratic country by fighting for it and supporting the American/coalition troops - as they see America once fought for their Independence and a free Democracy. Without emphasizing the goal of Democratizing Iraq and the freedoms it will bring to the Iraqi people, the Iraqi people could have believed it was all an "American plot to get their oil" like the terrorists continued to say it was. Now they see the broader goals involved for their good.. which God (who superintends such megapolitical change) had intended for them from the beginning.

Sara.

-- May 12, 2008 2:05 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

I find this entire discussion about the war in Iraq being illegitimate quite puzzling. As I recall, George H.W. Bush suffered repeated criticism for not outsting Saddam Hussein. George H.W. Bush was painted by the left at the time of the first gulf war as to pensive regarding Iraq.

In contrast, for five years, we have listened to these same critics malign George W. Bush for his Iraq policy. In fact, I have heard some call his Iraqi policy reckless.

What I have learned and have always known concerning Iraq regardless of the "pensive" policy of George H.W. Bush or the "wreckless" policy of George W. Bush neither policy is acceptable because it is authored by a Republican; specifically a Bush.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 12, 2008 2:37 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

If the rest of the U.S. populace had the discernment you have just shown - President Bush's approval ratings would not be so low. The concern I have is that "all it takes for evil to prevail is for good to be silent" - which means that if it is not pointed out to the populace what appears to you and I quite obvious.. then the masses won't get it. They take the opinions of those who speak first and with intent to ridicule as "gospel" instead of listening to both sides:

Pro 18:17 He that is first in his own cause seems just; but his neighbour comes and searches him.

So it is that they which speak first in their own Liberal/Democrat cause - they appear or SEEM just.. but as this article teaches us, the "neighbor" comes and more closely searches out the matter - finding in the end analysis that the cause was NOT just. So that, in time, it is disproved - in the case of such insidious opinions as that "Bush lied, people died" nonsense - and all those who were quick to support those who were first in their own cause.

As you said, those "first in their own cause" start with a prejudice against any Republican opinion - and their discontent foams out of mouths whose hearts are married to their own Liberal cause over what is truly right.. therefore they only APPEAR just for a time. In time, their opinions are overthrown.. but the American public appear to be gullible enough that they are blaming the President for the good call he made and disapprove of his handling of the war. The American public appears to think that if President Bush had chosen NOT to go to war we would be better off or that he should have done things differently than he has. The reality is that the sacrifices made to this day have stopped the needless deaths of millions of American lives on US soil. Not provable, but assuredly the truth. (And all the evidence, as noted in that article above, point to it.) Also, the policies implemented by the Bush Administration have been with great wisdom in dealing with a difficult part of the globe.

In the end, I believe God will judge with truly JUST judgement all those who said these kinds of awful and seditious things against the President (such as Bush lied, people died, etc.) and they will be ashamed in that Judgement Day. Until then, however, the people of America appear (if the polls about President Bush mean anything) to be very deceived - and their disapproval only shows how deep the deceit goes into the heart of the populace. The concern is that a people so easily deceived and led can be led into giving up their freedom and giving in to their own enslavement. A foolish and gullible populace is a sure route to the downfall of any free country, because they will elect wrong leaders who are "first in their own cause" and not in actuality for them or their country, regardless of what it must cost. The cost must be faced beforehand using all the faculties of just reason and rational judgement and then the cost must be paid for freedom to prevail - for Freedom is never free.

Sara.

-- May 12, 2008 3:56 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Central Bank To Abandon Its Tight Monetary Policy: Change The Value!!!!!

Is it happening? Or is the Advisor Advicing??


Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister: the central bank would reduce the hardline policies

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 13 / 05 / 2008 at 03:46:14


The economists are Iraqis, including an economic advisor to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, on Monday, the Central Bank to abandon its adoption of tight monetary policies, because of their negative impact on the national economy., by changing the value of the real exchange rate of dinar and causing a deficit in the general budget.

He said Abdul-Hussein Al-Anbuge, economic advisor to the Prime Minister, before the specialized symposium held in Baghdad on Monday, under the banner of (economic and financial reform and reconstruction in Iraq), that "actions at the Central Bank of hardline Iraqi currency to reduce the mass and raising the rate of disbursement, led to results Damaging the Iraqi economy a whole. "

The Al-Anbuge, during his research entitled (the effects of tight monetary policy ... How long?) In the symposium, that "that the Central Bank of attempts to raise the value of the dinar, changed the value in the market, which led to a decline in the value of resources Oil resident dinars. "

He added that "reflected negatively on increasing the rate of disability, in addition to the resurgence of the economy rental, because the high value of the dinar led to a dependence on imported more industries, which seem cheap imported goods for the Iraqi consumer."

The economic expert, "Despite high oil prices, but the truth is that the economic cycle has become ends in outside diameter," considering that the beneficiary of the rising Iraqi currency "are the ones who remit their profits at home abroad, and not vice versa."

He said Al-Anbuge that monetary policy "did not address the phenomenon of inflation, as demonstrated by the rise of imported goods whose prices have increased because of higher oil prices globally," stressing the importance of monetary policy to be "neutral if were not able to cope with fiscal policy, reduce the gap with inconsistencies Between them. "

Rehn called Ahmed, Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, economists Iraqis to "re-examine the causes of inflation," considering increasing government spending, "one of its main causes, because the expansion of spending is not offset by an increase in production."

Rehn said "For example: How Iraq needs of cement, and how he can produce."

He called on Deputy Governor of Central Bank not to be "load bank unit responsible for what is happening in the Iraqi economy," pointing out that the central lift interest rates to control the volume of cash "that led to bank deposits comes to it, without lending to the private sector."

He pointed out that Rehn (93%) of deposits in the Central Bank "comes from a bank: the Rafidain and Rasheed Gumian", he wondered, "Why does not the government directed banks to lend, rather than deposit the funds in the Central Bank to maximize profits ..?."

A financial expert, Majid image on this last speech by saying that he "does not desired results of the exchange rate to float the dollar, since that will ensure that interest rates will rise to more than the day."

The image that everyone "focus on how to solve immediate problems, namely how to develop the financial process, pressure on the state in order of preference the production process on trade, and finding solutions to reduce unemployment."

But the president of the Economics Department at Mustansiriyah University, Ahmed Al Wazzan expressed his optimism about the economic situation, and said that "groping for the first time in Iraq, the features of the building fiscal and monetary policy after it was everything but the state only."

Wazzan said that the problem of the Iraqi economy "that is still held OWN government control over all the joints," adding that "the time of parental care has ended, and it is time for action, according to indications of the market."

The punitive Hamid, Chairman of the Businessmen Association, that Iraq "stands in front of the economic situation is difficult and very delicate, but it has the ingredients necessary to fill an important position globally."

He agreed with the view of the punitive-Wazzan, the importance of the emergence of the economy "parental care," but he believed that the best solution to the current Iraq situation is "making a mix of cooperation between public and private sectors, and this will not be through investment laws, but also to Improving infrastructure, focusing on the development of human skills and development and introduction of modern technology at work. " Central Bank To Abandon Its Tight Monetary Policy: Change The Value!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is it happening? Or is the Advisor Advicing??


Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister: the central bank would reduce the hardline policies

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 13 / 05 / 2008 at 03:46:14


The economists are Iraqis, including an economic advisor to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, on Monday, the Central Bank to abandon its adoption of tight monetary policies, because of their negative impact on the national economy., by changing the value of the real exchange rate of dinar and causing a deficit in the general budget.

He said Abdul-Hussein Al-Anbuge, economic advisor to the Prime Minister, before the specialized symposium held in Baghdad on Monday, under the banner of (economic and financial reform and reconstruction in Iraq), that "actions at the Central Bank of hardline Iraqi currency to reduce the mass and raising the rate of disbursement, led to results Damaging the Iraqi economy a whole. "

The Al-Anbuge, during his research entitled (the effects of tight monetary policy ... How long?) In the symposium, that "that the Central Bank of attempts to raise the value of the dinar, changed the value in the market, which led to a decline in the value of resources Oil resident dinars. "

He added that "reflected negatively on increasing the rate of disability, in addition to the resurgence of the economy rental, because the high value of the dinar led to a dependence on imported more industries, which seem cheap imported goods for the Iraqi consumer."

The economic expert, "Despite high oil prices, but the truth is that the economic cycle has become ends in outside diameter," considering that the beneficiary of the rising Iraqi currency "are the ones who remit their profits at home abroad, and not vice versa."

He said Al-Anbuge that monetary policy "did not address the phenomenon of inflation, as demonstrated by the rise of imported goods whose prices have increased because of higher oil prices globally," stressing the importance of monetary policy to be "neutral if were not able to cope with fiscal policy, reduce the gap with inconsistencies Between them. "

Rehn called Ahmed, Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, economists Iraqis to "re-examine the causes of inflation," considering increasing government spending, "one of its main causes, because the expansion of spending is not offset by an increase in production."

Rehn said "For example: How Iraq needs of cement, and how he can produce."

He called on Deputy Governor of Central Bank not to be "load bank unit responsible for what is happening in the Iraqi economy," pointing out that the central lift interest rates to control the volume of cash "that led to bank deposits comes to it, without lending to the private sector."

He pointed out that Rehn (93%) of deposits in the Central Bank "comes from a bank: the Rafidain and Rasheed Gumian", he wondered, "Why does not the government directed banks to lend, rather than deposit the funds in the Central Bank to maximize profits ..?."

A financial expert, Majid image on this last speech by saying that he "does not desired results of the exchange rate to float the dollar, since that will ensure that interest rates will rise to more than the day."

The image that everyone "focus on how to solve immediate problems, namely how to develop the financial process, pressure on the state in order of preference the production process on trade, and finding solutions to reduce unemployment."

But the president of the Economics Department at Mustansiriyah University, Ahmed Al Wazzan expressed his optimism about the economic situation, and said that "groping for the first time in Iraq, the features of the building fiscal and monetary policy after it was everything but the state only."

Wazzan said that the problem of the Iraqi economy "that is still held OWN government control over all the joints," adding that "the time of parental care has ended, and it is time for action, according to indications of the market."

The punitive Hamid, Chairman of the Businessmen Association, that Iraq "stands in front of the economic situation is difficult and very delicate, but it has the ingredients necessary to fill an important position globally."

He agreed with the view of the punitive-Wazzan, the importance of the emergence of the economy "parental care," but he believed that the best solution to the current Iraq situation is "making a mix of cooperation between public and private sectors, and this will not be through investment laws, but also to Improving infrastructure, focusing on the development of human skills and development and introduction of modern technology at work. "

Central Bank To Abandon Its Tight Monetary Policy: Change The Value!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is it happening? Or is the Advisor Advicing??


Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister: the central bank would reduce the hardline policies

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 13 / 05 / 2008 at 03:46:14


The economists are Iraqis, including an economic advisor to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, on Monday, the Central Bank to abandon its adoption of tight monetary policies, because of their negative impact on the national economy., by changing the value of the real exchange rate of dinar and causing a deficit in the general budget.

He said Abdul-Hussein Al-Anbuge, economic advisor to the Prime Minister, before the specialized symposium held in Baghdad on Monday, under the banner of (economic and financial reform and reconstruction in Iraq), that "actions at the Central Bank of hardline Iraqi currency to reduce the mass and raising the rate of disbursement, led to results Damaging the Iraqi economy a whole. "

The Al-Anbuge, during his research entitled (the effects of tight monetary policy ... How long?) In the symposium, that "that the Central Bank of attempts to raise the value of the dinar, changed the value in the market, which led to a decline in the value of resources Oil resident dinars. "

He added that "reflected negatively on increasing the rate of disability, in addition to the resurgence of the economy rental, because the high value of the dinar led to a dependence on imported more industries, which seem cheap imported goods for the Iraqi consumer."

The economic expert, "Despite high oil prices, but the truth is that the economic cycle has become ends in outside diameter," considering that the beneficiary of the rising Iraqi currency "are the ones who remit their profits at home abroad, and not vice versa."

He said Al-Anbuge that monetary policy "did not address the phenomenon of inflation, as demonstrated by the rise of imported goods whose prices have increased because of higher oil prices globally," stressing the importance of monetary policy to be "neutral if were not able to cope with fiscal policy, reduce the gap with inconsistencies Between them. "

Rehn called Ahmed, Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, economists Iraqis to "re-examine the causes of inflation," considering increasing government spending, "one of its main causes, because the expansion of spending is not offset by an increase in production."

Rehn said "For example: How Iraq needs of cement, and how he can produce."

He called on Deputy Governor of Central Bank not to be "load bank unit responsible for what is happening in the Iraqi economy," pointing out that the central lift interest rates to control the volume of cash "that led to bank deposits comes to it, without lending to the private sector."

He pointed out that Rehn (93%) of deposits in the Central Bank "comes from a bank: the Rafidain and Rasheed Gumian", he wondered, "Why does not the government directed banks to lend, rather than deposit the funds in the Central Bank to maximize profits ..?."

A financial expert, Majid image on this last speech by saying that he "does not desired results of the exchange rate to float the dollar, since that will ensure that interest rates will rise to more than the day."

The image that everyone "focus on how to solve immediate problems, namely how to develop the financial process, pressure on the state in order of preference the production process on trade, and finding solutions to reduce unemployment."

But the president of the Economics Department at Mustansiriyah University, Ahmed Al Wazzan expressed his optimism about the economic situation, and said that "groping for the first time in Iraq, the features of the building fiscal and monetary policy after it was everything but the state only."

Wazzan said that the problem of the Iraqi economy "that is still held OWN government control over all the joints," adding that "the time of parental care has ended, and it is time for action, according to indications of the market."

The punitive Hamid, Chairman of the Businessmen Association, that Iraq "stands in front of the economic situation is difficult and very delicate, but it has the ingredients necessary to fill an important position globally."

He agreed with the view of the punitive-Wazzan, the importance of the emergence of the economy "parental care," but he believed that the best solution to the current Iraq situation is "making a mix of cooperation between public and private sectors, and this will not be through investment laws, but also to Improving infrastructure, focusing on the development of human skills and development and introduction of modern technology at work. "http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.aswataliraq.info&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

-- May 13, 2008 11:42 AM


cornishboy wrote:

The discovery of three oil fields in Kurdistan is expected to achieve annual revenue for Iraq worth 35 billion dollars

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13/05/08

The discovery of three oil fields in Kurdistan is expected to achieve annual revenue for Iraq worth 35 billion dollars

Horami announced Leste Minister of Natural Resources of the Kurdistan Regional Government discovery of three new oil fields in the province, expected to achieve additional annual revenue for Iraq worth 35 billion dollars.

He Horami about his expectations up that energy production in these fields within the next five years to one million barrels per day, adding that the oil contracts for the Kurdistan region will bring foreign investment to the province valued at 10 billion dollars.

Alhorami statement came during his presentation of the report and his cabinet to the parliament of Kurdistan on oil contracts and the outcome of recent talks between the delegation of Kurdistan province with the central government in Baghdad on the problem of oil contracts.

In this regard Horami said that under the tripartite agreement between President Jalal Talabani and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Masoud Barzani, President of the Territory, all crucial issues concerning the division of oil resources and the restructuring of the Ministry of Oil must be in accordance with agreements based on the Constitution.

He renewed Horami saying that the oil contracts in the Territory and signed with a number of international companies coincide with the Iraqi Constitution and international standards, pointing out that the Kurdistan Government initiative was to start talks with the Centre to avoid differences, he said.

He accused persons Horami in Baghdad without seeking to abolish nominated texts and materials constitutionality of allowing the territory the right to invest oil through the proposed amendments to the Constitution.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...-US:unofficial

-- May 13, 2008 2:07 PM


Sara wrote:

Rumblings..

As you know, recently terrorists fought in Lebanon in an attempted coup against the government there. Apparently IRAN sent their Iranian Revolutionary Guards to fight against the Lebanese government:

EXCLUSIVE From Lebanon: Iran Revolutionary Guard Caught Fighting for Hezbollah
May 12, 2008
By Debbie Schlussel

Although Hezbollah has retreated--by its own choice (and it could easily return and retake)--from Beirut, the Iranian/Syrian-backed, Lebanese terrorist group is fighting in the surrounding hills.

My exclusive Lebanese Intelligence sources tell me that a number of Hezbollah terrorist fighters have been caught, over the weekend, and they cannot speak Arabic, only Farsi. They are Iranian and have identified themselves or been identified by third parties as members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. This is the same group that, under Khomeini, took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and kept U.S. civilians hostage for over 444 days in 1979-81, in Iran.

Iranian Revolutionary Guard: Now Fighting for Hezbo in Lebanon

As I reported, last week, Druze leader Walid Jumblatt (previously a Syria supporter) called for an end to flights to Lebanon from Iran. He claimed that these flights were likely being transport Iranian fighters and their weapons into Lebanon for a big conflagration and takeover.

Now, his claims have been borne out.

Again, Iranian Revolutionary Guard members are fighting on behalf of Hezbollah on the ground of Lebanon, near Beirut.

Iran is expanding its temporary satellite state from South Lebanon to the entire country.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/05/exclusive_from.html

Now, today, Saudi Arabia makes a statement:

'Iran's support for Hizbullah will affect foreign relations'
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
May 13, 2008

Iran's support for Hizbullah's "coup" in Lebanon will affect Teheran's relations with Arab and Islamic countries, said Saudi Arabia Tuesday.

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal called on all Middle Eastern countries to respect Lebanon's independence and refrain from stoking sectarian tensions in the country.

Lebanon has suffered from almost a week of clashes between supporters of the Western-backed government and the Shiite Hizbullah opposition that have left at least 54 people dead and scores more wounded.

"Of course, Iran is backing what happened in Lebanon, a coup, and supports it. It will affect its relations with all Arab countries, even the Islamic ones," said Saud during a press conference in the Saudi capital Riyadh.

"The kingdom calls on all regional parties to respect the independence and sovereignty of Lebanon and to stop meddling in its affairs and inciting sectarian tensions," added the foreign minister from Sunni powerhouse Saudi Arabia.

The recent unrest in Lebanon occurred after the government decided to sack an airport security chief with alleged links to Hizboluah and declared the movement's private telecommunications network a threat to the state.

Within days, Hizbullah and their allies swept through Beirut, displacing pro-government gunmen - a response criticized by Saud on Tuesday.

"What is the crime the (Lebanese) government committed? Transferring ... an officer working at an airport or (challenging) a surveillance system?" said Saud. "Would (government) measures taken to stop that deserve such violent, offensive measures, which aim at an annihilation of people."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1210668624895

respect the independence and sovereignty of Lebanon and to stop meddling in its affairs and inciting sectarian tensions

Sounds like the same words being used concerning Iraq, doesn't it?

How long until the region and world sees Iran as the threat to its neighbors that it is?

The Iranian interference extends not only to Iraq.. but to everywhere else where its religious Dominion mandate extends (the world, starting with the Middle East and moving outward). How many "Poland's" do we need to have before we notice another rising "Hitler"?

Sara.

-- May 13, 2008 2:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Words.. ?
But no action??

Ahmadinejad: Israel to be 'swept away soon'
Middle East World News
13 May 2008

Tehran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that Israel would "be soon swept away" from the Palestinian Territories by the Palestinians. It is the second time within less than three years that the Iranian president predicted the eradication of the Jewish state.

The first time was in 2005 when Ahmadinejad hoped that Israel would be eradicated from the Middle East map.

"This terrorist and criminal state is backed by foreign powers, but this regime would soon be swept away by the Palestinians," Ahmadinejad said in a press conference in Tehran.

Referring to worldwide celebrations for the 60th anniversary of Israel's foundation, he said that "it would be futile to hold a birthday ceremony for something which is already dead."

"As far as the regional countries are concerned, this regime does not exist," Ahmadinejad added.

The Iranian president said last week that the anniversary feasts could not save this "rotten and stinking corpse."

Ahmadinejad caused international outrage in the past by hoping for the eradication of Israel, the relocation of the Jewish state to Europe or Alaska and questioning the historic dimensions of the Holocaust.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/205101,ahmadinejad-israel-to-be-swept-away-soon.html

You judge.. Iran:

Supporting Hizbullah against the Lebanese government..
Supporting Sadr and other militants against the Iraqi government..
Supporting Palestinians against the Israeli government??

Iran is about to go nuclear.. what do you think they might do with those nukes?
Maybe the Palestinians will have a little help with "eradicating" Israel "from the Middle East map"?
They make convenient proxies, don't they?
How do you think he meant the comment that Israel would "soon be swept away"??
Just words? Empty rhetoric? No action?

Sara.

-- May 13, 2008 3:05 PM


Sara wrote:

QUOTES:
"We are concerned that some countries are moving down the nuclear [weapons] path in reaction to the Iranians,"
"Global Interest in Energy May Presage A New Arms Race" ".. nuclear power can give a country the technological expertise and infrastructure that could become the foundation for a clandestine weapons program".
"Without a comprehensive nuclear accord, you will have a proliferation problem in the Middle East, and it will be even worse in 10 years than it is today."

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Spread of Nuclear Capability Is Feared
Global Interest in Energy May Presage A New Arms Race
By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 12, 2008; Page A01

VIENNA -- At least 40 developing countries from the Persian Gulf region to Latin America have recently approached U.N. officials here to signal interest in starting nuclear power programs, a trend that concerned proliferation experts say could provide the building blocks of nuclear arsenals in some of those nations.

At least half a dozen countries have also said in the past four years that they are specifically planning to conduct enrichment or reprocessing of nuclear fuel, a prospect that could dramatically expand the global supply of plutonium and enriched uranium, according to U.S. and international nuclear officials and arms-control experts.

Much of the new interest is driven by economic considerations, particularly the soaring cost of fossil fuels. But for some Middle Eastern states with ready access to huge stocks of oil or natural gas, such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, the investment in nuclear power appears to be linked partly to concerns about a future regional arms race stoked in part by Iran's alleged interest in such an arsenal, the officials said.

"We are concerned that some countries are moving down the nuclear [weapons] path in reaction to the Iranians," a senior U.S. government official who tracks the spread of nuclear technology said in an interview. He declined to speak on the record because of diplomatic sensitivities. "The big question is: At what point do you reach the nuclear tipping point, when enough countries go nuclear that others decide they must do so, too?"

Although the United Arab Emirates has a proven oil reserve of 100 billion barrels, the world's sixth-largest, in January it signed a deal with a French company to build two nuclear reactors. Wealthy neighbors Kuwait and Bahrain are also planning nuclear plants, as are Libya, Algeria and Morocco in North Africa and the kingdom of Jordan.

Even Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the Arab world, last year announced plans to purchase a nuclear reactor, which it says is needed to produce electricity; it is one of 11 Middle Eastern states now engaged in starting or expanding nuclear power programs.

Meanwhile, two of Iran's biggest rivals in the region, Turkey and Egypt, are moving forward with ambitious nuclear projects. Both countries abandoned any pursuit of nuclear power decades ago but are now on course to develop seven nuclear power plants -- four in Egypt and three in Turkey -- over the next decade.

Egypt's ambassador to the United States, Nabil Fahmy, told a recent gathering of Middle Eastern and nonproliferation experts that his country's decision was unrelated to Iran's nuclear activities. But he acknowledged that commercial nuclear power "does give you technology and knowledge," and he warned that a nuclear arms race may be inevitable unless the region's leaders agree to ban such weapons.

"We continue to take the high road, but there isn't much oxygen there, and it is very lonely," Fahmy told the gathering in Washington at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. He added a prediction: "Without a comprehensive nuclear accord, you will have a proliferation problem in the Middle East, and it will be even worse in 10 years than it is today."

Many countries involved in nuclear expansion have stressed their peaceful intentions. Some, such as the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, publicly vowed never to pursue uranium enrichment or fuel reprocessing -- technologies that can be used to create fissile materials for nuclear weapons. But some arms-control experts say the sudden interest cannot be fully explained by rising oil prices.

"This is not primarily about nuclear energy. It's a hedge against Iran," said Ploughshares Fund president Joseph Cirincione, an expert on nuclear policy and author of "Bomb Scare: The History and Future of Nuclear Weapons."

"They're starting their engines. It takes decades to build a nuclear infrastructure, and they're beginning to do it now. They're saying, 'If there's going to be an arms race, we're going to be in it.' "

Iran's neighbors, convinced that a nuclear-armed Tehran is now likely, are keeping their own options open, nuclear experts say.

IAEA officials say they have never previously seen such widespread interest in starting a domestic nuclear power industry. While officials declined to detail their correspondence with specific countries, the list of the newly interested includes several African countries, such as Nigeria and Namibia, and at least half a dozen former Soviet republics that are embracing new Western designs to replace less-reliable Soviet nuclear plants.

Nuclear weapons experts say commercial nuclear power plants, by themselves, pose relatively little proliferation risk, although they are frequently mentioned as possible targets for terrorist attacks. But nuclear power can give a country the technological expertise and infrastructure that could become the foundation for a clandestine weapons program.

Such covert programs can be successfully hidden for years, as was demonstrated in recent months by U.S. and Israeli allegations that Syria was building a secret plutonium production reactor near the desert town of Al Kibar. Plutonium is an efficient fuel for nuclear explosions, as well as for power generation.

Both India and Pakistan built nuclear devices using an industrial infrastructure built ostensibly for nuclear power. Taiwan and South Korea conducted weapons research under cover of civil power programs but halted the work after being confronted by the United States.

A particular concern is rising interest in nuclear enrichment and reprocessing, the commercial enterprise that creates nuclear fuel and then, after its use, separates plutonium from the spent fuel. The business has long been dominated by the United States, Russia and a consortium of European nations.

But since 2004, uranium-producing countries such as Namibia, South Africa, Argentina and Brazil, as well as close U.S. allies such as Canada and Australia, have sought to develop their own enrichment and reprocessing capabilities. All of these nations are seeking to cash in on the future growth in nuclear power generation.

Canada's push for expanded enrichment capacity has already prompted private but intense clashes with the Bush administration, officials said.

"They're all rethinking enrichment, even countries that did it in the past and gave it up," said a senior IAEA official who monitors fuel-cycle development, who agreed to be interviewed on the condition that he not be identified by name. "They already mine uranium and sell it, and now they realize they could make a lot more money if they enrich it."

While no one forecasts a nuclear-armed Canada or Australia, the change could lead to more nuclear materials being transported around the world, among countries in nearly every region with heightened nuclear expertise.

"People stand up and pay attention when you talk about enrichment and the fuel cycle," said the senior U.S. government official who tracks nuclear proliferation. "That's the long pole in the tent" in the acquisition of a nuclear arsenal. He added that, while the extensive system of IAEA inspections and monitoring for such programs is meant to prevent misuse, "that only holds up to the point where the country decides to kick the IAEA out."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/11/AR2008051102212.html?nav=rss_world

Race questions aside..
With these kinds of concerns facing the world..
don't we need someone with experience at the helm of the country?

"We are concerned that some countries are moving down the nuclear [weapons] path in reaction to the Iranians,"
"Without a comprehensive nuclear accord, you will have a proliferation problem in the Middle East, and it will be even worse in 10 years than it is today."

Someone will need to broker a comprehensive nuclear accord among the Middle Eastern nations..
a real statesman, someone with experience.. who?

Sara.

-- May 13, 2008 5:35 PM


Sara wrote:

Worth Reading,
QUOTES:

It's all too easy to say "yes, we can" when you haven't ever had to be the guy people look to to say "yes we did."
A candidate who has faced the kinds of tests the presidency offers - management in crisis, adversity in wartime, sustained political leadership, job creation - can be evaluated more easily by voters than one who has only TALKED about those tests.
Are any of these things disqualifying from the Presidency? No. But electing a man who is so seriously lacking in ALL of them is indeed unprecedented.

POLITICS: Yes, Experience Matters
May 12, 2008
Does Barack Obama's inexperience matter - and should it?

I. Experience Matters In The Presidency

The presidency is an enormous, complex and dangerous job. The president's first and foremost responsibility is as the Commander-in-Chief, with responsibility for reacting, sometimes without time to exhaustively gather and sift the best possible information and explore all the alternatives, and with the need at times to rally the nation to do difficult and painful things. The president is also the head of the vast, sprawling executive branch, the nation's chief law enforcement officer, the head of his or her party, the appointer of life-tenured federal judges and scores of influential bureaucrats, the submitter of budgets and proposer of legislation. No president comes to the job fully prepared for all its demands. But the more of those demands the president comes truly unprepared for, the more difficulty he or she will have in mastering them all at once.

While there are a variety of life experiences that are useful for a president to have, to my mind there are five types of experience that are particularly important:

1. Executive experience: Most of the things the president does are carried out by giving orders to other people, and usually through several layers of other people. A successful executive needs to know who to appoint, how to supervise them, how to delegate authority and set priorities. The public and private sectors alike are strewn with cautionary examples of the difficulty of mastering these tasks in organizations far less massive and diverse than the Executive Branch of the federal government. A president who has never been an executive of any kind - like all three of this year's remaining presidential contenders (the closest any of them comes is McCain's tenure commanding a squadron in the Navy) - faces a daunting task in learning these skills from scratch.

2. Experience with national security and foreign policy: Trouble in foreign affairs comes hard and fast, and the president needs to understand on an instinctual level the array of military and non-military options at his or her disposal in any given situation, as well as the many ways in which a particular decision can affect the situation. Military and defense policy in particular can be bewildering and perilous for a beginner who has never encountered it before, given that so many things the military does are so different from how civilian life works.

3. Political experience: If a lot of the president's job requires managing the Executive Branch, another large component - including the ability to keep the Executive Branch in line - is the ability to marshal and sustain political support, both among Congress and the public, including understanding how to build coalitions and how to deal with the media. Of course, the experience of winning a national election gets any president a leg up in this department, but long experience in politics, especially experience of political leadership and experience in coming back from political setbacks, is important training in this area.

4. Military/combat service: As I said above, understanding defense policy from the top down can be a great challenge, but it undoubtedly helps as well to understand it from the ground up. And since the president's most solemn job is to commit forces to combat, experience in combat is not just a campaign slogan; it is, in fact, an important and useful experience to bear always in mind.

5. Private sector experience: Government exists to serve the people, and what Washington does affects private business and private lives in myriad ways that are unanticipated by policymakers inside the Beltway. Having had the responsibility to live off a private sector paycheck and/or manage a private sector business gives the president irreplaceable insights into the end results of his or her actions.

Now, as important as they are, no one of these experiences is essential; you can cite successful presidents who lacked experience in each of these areas, and campaigns have gone off the rails before by trying to make out one of these as a litmus test. But you'd have a hard time locating someone who was even a credible candidate, let alone a successful president, who was basically lacking in all five; the closest would be the singular exception of Abraham Lincoln, who was truly a unique figure, but even Lincoln had made a living in the private sector as an attorney, storekeeper and railsplitter and had some military command experience as a captain in the Black Hawk War. In each case, he ranks ahead of Obama. And Obama is no Abraham Lincoln.

Consider a contrast: John F. Kennedy. Kennedy and the wildly unsuccessful Warren G. Harding are the only two sitting Senators elected to the White House, neither of them nearly as long-serving as John McCain, but both longer-serving in the Senate than Obama. Kennedy was not as inexperienced as perhaps you might think - in addition to being a combat veteran, he'd been a Congressman for six years and a Senator for eight. But he was relatively young, much of his Senate tenure had been spent in a hospital bed due to back trouble, and he'd never run anything larger than a PT Boat. And the opening of Kennedy's presidency underlined the hazards of being green. He pulled the air support from the Bay of Pigs invasion, after his predecessor had insisted upon it, leading to a humiliating setback that left Cuba in Communist hands to this day; a more experienced leader would have been secure enough to know that whatever you do, you don't mess with an amphibious invasion plan approved by Dwight Eisenhower. Kennedy subsequently impressed Khruschev, in their first meeting, as weak. While Kennedy in some ways had sound instincts on foreign policy, that 1-2 punch at the outset of his tenure provoked repeated challenges by the Communist bloc - Berlin, the Cuban Missile Crisis that nearly led to nuclear war, Vietnam (some historians speculate that Kennedy felt compelled to take a more hawkish stance towards Vietnam because of the earlier setbacks). As we saw with the Chinese spy-place incident in 2001 and Mogadishu in 1993, foreign troublemakers are always willing to put a new president to the test; Kennedy's inexperience contributed to him failing those early tests, with dangerously escalating results in the years that followed. Obama will be a similar standing invitation, especially taking office while the nation is still prosecuting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and crises in Iran, Syria, North Korea and Venezuela.

Former Jimmy Carter speechwriter James Fallows, writing in 1979, aptly described how Carter's leap from the small-time to the big leagues of national politics left him unprepared for the demands of the job:

If his secure position and effortless supremacy in Plains had made Carter calmer than Nixon or Kennedy, it seemed also to have given him too high an estimation of his own gifts. It would have helped him to have spent a little while in a law firm in Boston, or with a movie company in Los Angeles, or as a broker in New York, to acquire that edge of neurosis and compulsion to get the best ideas out of the people on his staff. That Jimmy Carter would have been a less pleasant person; a different background might have denied him the very traits that are now his greatest strength. But it might also have made new ideas seem crucial to him; it would not have left him satisfied, as the real Jimmy Carter too often is, with what burbles up in the usual bureaucratic fashion and with the people who happen to come to hand. In Plains, he had run the business himself, relied entirely upon himself. He did not need to search constantly for people to push and test him, because his unpushed abilities were good enough.

II. Experience Matters To Voters

Experience doesn't only matter because it tests and teaches potential Presidents how to do the job. It also matters because experience reveals things that the voters need to evaluate in a candidate. A candidate who has faced the kinds of tests the presidency offers - management in crisis, adversity in wartime, sustained political leadership, job creation - can be evaluated more easily by voters than one who has only talked about those tests. This is a point that can't be emphasized enough, and at the end of the day it explains why the private lives, personalities and personal history of some candidates - Obama, Romney, Edwards, Bush in 2000, Hart in 1984 & 1988 - are and should be subjected to more minute scrutiny than better-known quantities like McCain, or Dole in 1996, or Mondale in 1984, or Reagan. We already have a wealth of evidence, from his quarter century in the Navy, quarter century in Congress, two presidential campaigns and innumerable appearances on national television, of how John McCain reacts to crises and setbacks, how he approaches tough political decisions, how he answers hard questions, how firmly he will stand for what he believes in, what things he will compromise on, when he will be a loyal party man and when he will go out of his way to go his own way. You may like what you see in McCain's long record or you may not, but very few people are left with much doubt about what kind of man McCain is or how he would approach tough decisions.

Barack Obama, with little experience to reveal his character, his abilities, and his judgment and fewer accomplishments, is explicitly running on a platform that he has the "Judgment to Lead":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti_YgO7xPGI

When McCain talks about judgment, we can test the proof in the pudding. But when Obama says it, how do we know that, other than that Obama says so? He points to his decision to oppose the war in Iraq, and indeed to some extent his talk of "judgment" has just been code for that one position, but even on the Iraq War, Obama had the most minimal responsibility: he did little beyond giving a single speech to a local crowd of like-minded constituents, and was by far less influential in the debate than scores of bloggers, let alone members of the federal government. He didn't even have the burden of confronting the facts - it's significant that the anti-war faction has chosen as its most prominent spokesmen Howard Dean and Obama, who share in common the fact that neither had access to classified intelligence at the time. Obama offers judgment unencumbered by either responsibility or complete information. And beyond Iraq, there's little enough in the file.

So what do we get instead? As voters we're stuck reading tea leaves, looking at who he chooses for his friends, mentors and advisers, poring over his and their every utterance, excavating obscure chapters in his life. Because what we are looking for is some substitute for what we could otherwise glean from his experience.

III. The Role of Advocacy In Politics

Despite the obvious relevance of experience, Lyford - is concerned that "table-pounding partisans" may come off as disingenuous in addressing this issue,
QUOTE:

One of the things that I've resisted doing is criticizing Barack Obama for, in Ronald Reagan's words, "youth and inexperience." Clearly, he has nowhere near the track record or experience that one would like to see in the President of the United States. He's been in the US Senate for less than one full term and he's never held any kind of executive position. Any arguments that he's too inexperienced and callow to be elected are legitimate.

But if I were to make them, it would be a lie. It would be to imply that, if only he weren't so young and inexperienced, I might vote for him. And the fact is, based on his entire career, the people he's chosen to align himself with and his voting record, there are no realistic circumstances under which I would ever vote for him. (end quote)

Not to pick on Lyford, but he's crystallized a common theme here and one worth dispelling, because he's missing a key point about how we make decisions in a democracy - not only does it matter very much that Obama lacks the experience to do the job, but it's very much the job of those of us with strong partisan or ideological attachments to point that out.

The initial misconception here is about the role of partisans - bloggers, pundits, and political professionals who are loyal to one party or whose strong political convictions naturally ally them with one party - in election campaigns. Now, to some extent this is my training as a lawyer talking, but our political system, like our legal system, is adversarial by nature; in the ordinary case, it depends on the partisans of each side to keep the other side honest and marshal the best possible arguments against the other. While there are, of course, exceptions, it's generally true that (a) most political commentary and a lot of the legwork behind it is produced by people with an agenda and (b) most undecided/persuadable voters are less well-informed than the typical partisan commentator. Thus, the partisan commentator's role in providing the best arguments for his or her side is an important and honorable one, without which the system would not work nearly as well.* That's not to deny that there are, just as in the legal system, an enormous number of unprincipled hacks in the field, or that a lot of what you hear can be mind-bendingly hypocritical. In fact, you should always consider the source in any political argument. But the point is that criticism from a position of ideological or partisan commitment is a perfectly respectable way of laying out the things undecided voters need to make up their minds.

Let's use an analogy here. Now, like Lyford, when I look at Obama's view of foreign and national security policy, and his positions on social issues and the kinds of people that would lead him to put on the courts, there's more than enough there to convince me that I could never in good conscience vote for the guy. But does that mean I am indifferent to the fact that Obama is also running on a platform of enormous tax hikes? Of course not; that's another reason to oppose him even if there's already enough reasons to make my mind up. And there's nothing disingenuous about me making the point about Obama's tax-hiking plans to someone who may not have already been decided by his foreign-policy and social-issue views.

Of course, for my own part, I've always put a premium on experience in presidential races even within the GOP, on the theory that ideas don't run for president, people do. And indeed, GOP voters in general have long had a strong preference for experienced candidates. It's the Democrats who often seem to be chasing the New, New Thing, the Next JFK.

IV. Hypocrisy And The Legacy of "Gotcha" Politics

One of the reasons why people take it as somehow hypcritical to criticize Obama's inexperience is the malignant effects of "gotcha" politics. Let me explain. Lots of what goes on in political discourse is about criticizing a politician for doing X. Maybe X is "cheating on his wife" or "experimenting with cocaine" or "cheating on his taxes"; maybe it's "voting for tax hikes" or "supporting the Iraq War." Frankly, if you are trying to bring down a public official or defeat a candidate, it can be tempting to look for the magic bullet that singlehandedly removes him or her from the field. And sometimes, people will go out on a limb to argue in depth that "doing X means you must resign/be voted down/be impeached/be indicted," etc.

There are fair arguments about what things are bad enough that they should be grounds for singlehandedly and categorically disqualifying someone from public office or from receiving your vote. But the problem is that the political commentariat seems to have grown too enamored with the idea that pretty much any basis for criticizing a politician must be (1) grounds for total disqualification or (2) utterly irrelevant. Some high points of this mania include disqualifying Douglas Ginsburg from the Supreme Court for smoking pot and Zoe Baird and Linda Chavez from Cabinet posts for not paying nanny taxes and, in Chavez' case, hiring an illegal immigrant. (Of course, the Clinton impeachment was a field day for these sorts of arguments, which I won't revisit here because, really, this post is already long enough).

The "gotcha" attitude with Obama is to argue that his lack of executive experince isn't a big deal because McCain doesn't have it, lack of foreign policy experience isn't a big deal because Bush didn't have it, etc. As I noted above, taken individually, these are valid points. The perilous logical leap is when his defenders argue that since these weaknesses are not disabling individually, they must not be at all relevant even taken collectively. And if one must speak of hypocrisy, it is rather amusing that we heard Democrats the past few years arguing that various Bush appointees were underqualified hacks who lacked the basic qualifications for their jobs (e.g., Miers, Mike Brown), but those same Democrats who were outraged at appointing "unqualified" people to mid-level jobs in the Administration are suddenly unconcerned about picking a guy without adequate experience for the top job, the guy who appoints all the others.

But for the same reasons why I rejected that style of argument when I came out in opposition to Harriet Miers (here and here) and Mitt Romney, Obama's lack of all the relevant types of experience, taken together, are very much a problem and quite arguably disqualifying by themselves, or at least very substantial reasons to be skeptical of his candidacy. Assuming he does hang on to squeeze Hillary out of the race, Obama is the emptiest vessel ever to get a major party nomination, a man who can't be judged on the results he has achieved because he's scarcely left a trace of results anywhere. It's all too easy to say "yes, we can" when you haven't ever had to be the guy people look to to say "yes we did."

He's never run anything at all, not even a small law practice like John Edwards. Besides his campaign, probably the biggest thing he's ever run was the Harvard Law Review.

He has nothing resembling national security experience or even particularly sustained advocacy on the issue before announcing his candidacy in 2007. The man has apparently hardly even traveled to Europe, to pick one example.

He is running in a contested election outside the insular world of Chicago politics for the first time and has never had any sort of responsibility for political leadership.

He's never served in the military and seems to have scarcely any experience even knowing people who served in the military.

His private-sector business background is negligible.

Are any of these things disqualifying from the Presidency? No. But electing a man who is so seriously lacking in all of them is indeed unprecedented. And that is and should be a central issue in this campaign.

http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2008/05/politics_yes_ex.php

-- May 13, 2008 6:18 PM


Sara wrote:

That last article had a picture which went with it:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV2vmZMJ

Caption: Who ya gonna call?

-- May 13, 2008 7:07 PM


Sara wrote:

A case in point: Obama's flip-flop on Iran recently shows his ineptness and inexperience for the job, quite apart from racial issues.
QUOTE:

It took Obama 10 months between the YouTube debate and this weekend to realize his Goodwill Tour for Bad Men was a crazy idea. But as president, his decisions and policies, even the half-baked ones, would have consequences in real time.

Amateur Hour with Barack Obama!
by Dean Barnett

Much was said over the weekend regarding Barack Obama's abandonment of his previous promise to talk to our most bitter enemies, just like Roosevelt did with Hitler and the Japanese. In case you haven't heard of this little situation, it's quite something.

During the YouTube debate last July, Obama boasted that he would meet “separately and without precondition” with the leaders of the world's worst nations like the crazy guy in Iran who wants to annihilate Israel and Venezuela's crackpot strongman.

The transcript of the debate makes Obama'a diplomatic plans rather unambiguous
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QUESTION: In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since. In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?

OBAMA: I would.

===end quote==
Transcript found here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/us/politics/24transcript.html?pagewanted=13&_r=3&adxnnlx=1210598289-re%20N1oy5ss0FlkEqgu3GuQ

Clambering as ever to claim the moral vanity high ground, the Obama campaign even memorialized this ill-advised pledge on his website. Then on Saturday, the campaign withdrew its aggressive Kumbaya foreign policy via its house media organ, the New York Times. Credulous Times reporter Larry Rohter bought the Obama campaign's spin that the McCain campaign had distorted Obama's ambitious summiting plans and instead “reported” that Obama “does not advocate immediate, direct or unconditional negotiations with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president.” I eagerly await the Times' parsing of this issue and its angry insistence that “during the first year” does not necessarily mean “immediate” and how “leaders” doesn't necessarily mean the guy in charge.

Additionally, the Times’ reportage over the weekend differed markedly from a write-up the Times did of a November interview with the longtime community organizer,
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Making clear that he planned to talk to Iran without preconditions, Mr. Obama emphasized further that “changes in behavior” by Iran could possibly be rewarded with membership in the World Trade Organization, other economic benefits and security guarantees…

Mr. Obama’s willingness to conduct talks at the highest level with Iran … differs significantly from the Bush administration.

===end quote===

Clearly, Obama has had a change of heart regarding whether or not to have a love-in with Ahmadenijad. The real interesting question is what brought this change of heart about.

There are three possible scenarios:

1) Obama always thought that meeting with the world's tin pot despots was a goofy idea, but made such a pledge nonetheless in a craven effort to appeal to the far left of the Democratic party which thinks a hope-based foreign policy is preferable to one based on iron and steel.

2) Obama still believes that a goodwill tour of chatting up the world's worst people is a swell idea, but has abandoned it in a craven effort to appeal to the vast middle of the American body politic which thinks the idea is screwy.

3) Obama originally thought the Kumbaya foreign policy was a good idea, but having considered the matter more fully has since realized that it's rash and naïve and thus has abandoned it.

As to which scenarios is the correct one, your guess is as good as mine. Me, I personally go with door number three. I think he really believed what he said at the YouTube debate at the time, and has since come to appreciate the comprehensive idiocy of the idea.

It's important to note that while this interpretation may seem the most Obama friendly, it actually casts him in the most negative light of the three possibilities. The first two options simply show Obama as a politician eager to appeal to certain factions that will facilitate victory. While this kind of pandering and flip-flopping is ignoble, let's face it – it's what politicians do. I know Barack Obama is supposed to be a completely different kind of politician, the honorable likes of which we have not seen since Abraham Lincoln entered Ford's Theatre, but voters who have yet to swoon at the Obama altar have more reasonable expectations.

Instead of being a craven politician, which is in itself a redundancy, Obama comes across here as inexperienced and having exhibited – you better sit down for this – poor judgment. My biggest unease with Obama isn’t about merely his lack of experience and qualifications. A larger concern is that it often appears that Obama hasn't thought about serious presidential-level issues with any rigor prior to entering the race. When you hear him stumbling while discussing the capital gains tax or ignorantly assessing FDR's negotiating habits, you begin to realize that the typical reader of this magazine has probably given the world's most significant matters more serious thought than the Democrats' presumptive nominee.

Obama's a smart guy. Scratch that – he’s a very smart guy. You don’t graduate Harvard Law School magna cum laude unless you have intellectual firepower to spare. Thus, it was shocking at the YouTube debate that he didn't seem to realize that he was promising an unprecedented and highly risky shift in our foreign policy. He was very blithe about meeting with the world's despots.

What's most concerning about a potential Obama administration is the whiff of amateur hour that the candidate often gives off. Yes, his campaign has done a swell job raising money and corralling voters, but when forced to discuss serious issues without the aid of a teleprompter, Obama often seems ill-informed yet still supremely confident. It took Obama 10 months between the YouTube debate and this weekend to realize his Goodwill Tour for Bad Men was a crazy idea. But as president, his decisions and policies, even the half-baked ones, would have consequences in real time.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#6834
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/05/amateur_hour_with_barack_obama.asp#email

-- May 13, 2008 7:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Shows Encouraging Economic Performance in 2007

The Iraqi economy showed encouraging signs of improvement in 2007. Much remains to be done, however, to consolidate macroeconomic stability and increase economic growth. The economic outlook for 2008 and beyond depends critically on further security improvements and higher investment.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 13, 2008 10:57 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq envoy rejects Democrats' anger over US funding
Iraq's ambassador to the US insisted over US funding for reconstruction.

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13 May 2008 (AFP)
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Iraq's ambassador to the United States insisted Sunday his government was doing more to pay its own way as angry Democrats in Congress push to cut US funding for reconstruction.

Samir Sumaidaie told CNN: "We are taking over as fast as we can. We are taking over on the construction side. We are taking over on the security side.

"And as time goes on, the money spent by the Americans on reconstruction or on our arms (armed) services will come down to zero and we'll take on the full load," he said.

Democrats say that with Iraq profiting from booming oil prices, its government is letting billions of dollars sit idle in US bank accounts as Washington spends up to 12 billion dollars a month in the country.

The Senate's armed services committee has proposed banning US funds for all large-scale projects in Iraq costing above two million dollars, demanding Baghdad assume a larger share of reconstruction costs.

The committee's Democratic chairman, Carl Levin, said on May 1 that it "is unconscionable, it is inexcusable, it makes no common sense" for Iraq's government not to be spending more of its own funds.

Sumaidaie said his government would willingly shell out more on major projects but "there are no qualified international companies coming forward to do them, because of the security situation."

"Plus, we have our own capacity problems within our administration. The government is not yet well organized enough to spend the money under the right kind of controls," the ambassador said.

"So we have our own frustrations."

Sumaidaie said Iraq was already paying the United States for weapons and supplies to its armed forces, and this year hoped to spend 80 percent of available budget funds in general, up from just 20 percent in 2006.

"But let us be very, very clear. The amount of money that Iraqis and the country need to rebuild itself and to stabilize itself are multiple times the amount of money we have available," he stressed.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 13, 2008 11:02 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

UIC, Sadrist blocs announce agreement’s details to end Sadr City crisis

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Baghdad, 13 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Leaders from the Unified Iraqi Coalition and the Sadrist bloc on Monday announced the details of the agreement inked between the two sides to end the security tension in the Shiite Sadr City after one day on entering into force.

This came during a press conference held by the UIC and the Sadrist bloc on Monday afternoon in Baghdad.

Deputy Speaker and member of parliament Khaled al-Attiya read the agreement’s articles which includes “the comprehensive agreement over the principles and basis the two sides agreed on and mapping out a roadmap for normalizing conditions for the stability in Sadr City.”

“The aim of the agreement is to achieve the rule of law throughout Sadr City,” he explained.

The agreement entered into force on Sunday.

Eyewitnesses and residents of Sadr city told Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI) on condition of anonymity that circumstances in their city seemed better and calmer, after applying the agreement between the Sadrists and UIC on Sunday.

“The articles include imposing the state’s prestige and enabling the executive authority to achieve Iraq’s security and stability,” he noted.

Sadr City, a stronghold of Sadr's Mahdi Army militias, has been witnessing armed clashes since Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki announced last month the commencement of a security operation codenamed Saulat al-Forsan (Knights' Assault) in the port city of Basra, Iraq's second largest province and an oil-hub, 590 km south of Baghdad, which he said targeted "outlaws."

Hundreds of Sadr supporters were killed or wounded in intense fighting, which still continues.

“The UIC vowed to follow up the agreement through a committee formed to implement these principles and basis,” al-Attiya continued.

“The agreement also includes compensating damaged people from the military operations,” he said.

For his part, Salah al-Ubaidi, the spokesperson for the Sadrist bloc, said at the press conference “the agreement represent working mechanisms to end the crisis,” noting that the main goal of the agreement is to work hard for putting an end to the crisis throughout Iraq.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said had said earlier that the points approved by the two delegations from the ruling Unified Iraqi Coalition and the Sadrist bloc, or Iraqis loyal to Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr, declared on Saturday, are the same controls the government applies with all blocs and parties.

The UIC meeting with the Sadrists reviewed "issues pertaining to laws in parliament and others to security conditions and economic topics we work on achieving in order to push forward reconstruction efforts and services," al-Maliki said.

An official spokesman for the government had confirmed the agreement reached with the Sadrists on Friday evening with the objective of "sustaining the stability and security in Sadr City."

"There are talks between a UIC delegation and the brothers from the Sadrist bloc, and a 14-point agreement was reached," Ali al-Dabbagh told VOI on Saturday.

The Sadrists' relations with the government have been marred by tension during the last week of March when Iraqi security forces, backed by U.S. troops, launched Saulat al-Forsan (Knights' Assault) in the southern Iraq port city of Basra.

The campaign involved clashes between the government forces and gunmen believed to be members of Sadr's Mahdi Army militias. The clashes extended to Baghdad and other provinces but stopped after a call by Sadr to end all armed activities on the streets.

The clashes, however, renewed on nearly a daily basis in Sadr City, where U.S. warplanes intervened. The tension grew stronger when Maliki called for disbanding the Mahdi Army or else the Sadrists would be denied participation in the provincial council elections, scheduled late this year, but cleric Sadr refused.

The Sadrists have 30 out of a total 275 seats in the Iraqi parliament, which they entered as part of the UIC that comprises Shiite parties including Maliki's Dawa, and Shiite leader Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim's Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC).

The UIC is the largest bloc in the Iraqi parliament with 83 seats.

The Sadrists had quit the Maliki government, where they occupied six ministerial portfolios, in April 2007 due to the government's rejection of their demand to "have a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 13, 2008 11:07 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Noble action likely to failFont Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print ANALYSIS: Greg Sheridan | May 14, 2008
THE Rudd Government's effort to bring a legal action against Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for incitement to genocide is almost certain to fail.

Nonetheless, it is a noble endeavour worthy of every support. Merely bringing the action, or attempting to, increases the moral and political pressure on the Iranian President.

It also should help those people within the Iranian leadership who regard Ahmadinejad as not only extreme but dangerous to Iran's own interests.

Perhaps only marginally, it will strengthen their argument that Ahmadinejad's wild and crazy and profoundly offensive rhetoric damages Iran needlessly, and therefore his nation would be better off if he were no longer president.

Of course, the Rudd Government's action also displays a profound solidarity with Israel - a solidarity that is just in itself and that will be much appreciated in Jerusalem.

It will also, incidentally, have the effect of identifying Canberra as an antagonist of Iran, which is just what it should be while Tehran's leadership is so dangerous and extreme.

However, it is extremely unlikely to succeed as a legal action and contains one small danger.

It is unlikely to succeed as a legal action simply because Iran is too powerful a state, and its oil too important to others.

Too many countries are too dependent on Iranian oil or fearful of Iranian power - both its direct military power and Tehran's long strategic reach provided through its sponsorship of numerous deadly terrorist groups. Very few countries are willing take an open stand against Iran.

Similarly, very few nations are willing to take a public stand on behalf of Israel.

Moreover, anything which requires UN Security Council approval will be vetoed by China, which protects Iran and numerous other tyrannies from any serious consequences at the UN.

The very small danger involved in taking the legal action is that it must not be seen as a substitute for the main game of denying Iran nuclear weapons, if necessary by punitive economic sanctions.

This is why the Israeli has not taken up the charge of incitement to genocide against Ahmadinejad. Israel's overwhelming priority is the physical safety of its citizens from the threat of Iranian nuclear weapons.

It does not want to invest big diplomatic and political resources into a process that will probably fail, or even if it has some partial success will probably produce only a slap on the wrist for Ahmadinejad.

Israel does not want its priorities confused.

Nonetheless, for the civilised world to tell Iran that its President's statements are indeed uncivilised is a righteous act.
(http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 13, 2008 11:20 PM


Carole wrote:

All:

Let's hope Obama is stupid and arrogant enough to elimiinate Hilary as a running mate. If hye does choose her, MC Cain better change his strategy to soliciting and appealing to the religious right, who will be the only ones that can help him pull off this election. They won the election for Bush, and they just might rally for Mc Cain.
His current plan to woo the middle democrats and undecided will not work if HIlary is running mate.

I would be intersted in what everyone thinks about the Libetarian candidate Sen. Barr.

I am also contemplating if it would be a good move or not for Mc Cain to take Joe Liberman as running mate. THEY JUST NEED TO SCRAP THE GLOBLE WARMING CRAP! AND PUSH THEIR SOCIAL AGENDAS THAT DENOUNCE ABORTION ON DEMAND AND THE PROTECTION OF MARRIAGE-- ONE MAN ONE WOMAN!

If they don't Obama WILL be our next President, taking a huge leap to the demise of the US, as we know it.

SCARY, SCARY TIMES.

My other thought is: thinking back to previous presidential election..... I think more than anyother factor as to why Kerry lost.....
his wife could not be seen as a First lady. She presented very poorly, and always looked like she had just fallen off a bar stool.

Somehow I think Michele Obama projects the same revulsion as a possible First Lady. Americans have been very snobby and picky when it comes to First Ladies.

This, in my opinion, influenced Huckabees chances.

Carole

-- May 13, 2008 11:51 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole - I think that many people consider Hillary to be overly ambitious (just saying), and they view her as willing to do almost anything to be President. IF that were the truth, as they perceive her, then Obama choosing her for a running mate is seen as unlikely because IF he attained office, the presumption is that Obama would meet with an "accident" which would then make Hillary President... (just saying what I have read).

I agree that appealing to Conservatives and the Religious Right is the right move for McCain. He seems to think so, too.. I think, because they say that Huckabee is on his short list for VP. I think with the constant scandal in the news about the LDS and the polygamy and abuse issues which have come to light, that Romney (just because he will be tarred with the same brush) could not make a good candidate.

Report: Huckabee tops McCain’s VP shortlist?
May 12, 2008 by Allahpundit

Just this morning, Bob Novak quoted Christian bigwig Michael Farris as saying, “I understand he is not under consideration.” Said Huck himself just two short months ago, “We have been given every signal that is not going to be considered.” And yet,
QUOTE:

Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and defeated contender for the GOP presidential nomination, is currently at the top of John McCain’s short list for a running mate. At least that’s the word from a top McCain fundraiser and longtime Republican moneyman who has spoken to McCain’s inner circle. The fundraiser is less than thrilled with the idea of Huckabee as the vice presidential nominee, and many economic conservatives—turned off by the populist tone of Huckabee’s campaign and his tax record as governor—are likely to share that marked lack of enthusiasm…

Let me add that a top Republican political strategist told me about a month ago that he also believed Huckabee to be the leading veep contender.

==end quote==

What’s changed in two months? For starters, remember that “Anyone but Mitt” campaign by Paul Weyrich and a bunch of other evangelical leaders? McCain can’t help but be jittery at seeing the Christian base taking a keen interest in his VP pick, especially with stories about their remorse for not having backed Huck in the primary circulating. Another thought: Romney’s always been touted as the logical pick for VP because of his fundraising prowess, to help close the money gap with Obama, but revisit this post (url) from early March about Huckabee’s media savvy. By one estimate, the free coverage he received from the likes of Scarborough, Colbert, and the rest of the talk show circuit was worth $125 million in paid ads, more than Mitt could ever raise (especially with McCain accepting public financing). Having not one but two media darlings on the GOP ticket might convince the press to go merely hip-deep into the tank for Obama instead of face-first, like they’re planning. Finally, now that Barry O’s the nominee, McCain has both a worry and an opportunity that he wouldn’t have had opposite Hillary: Turnout among black voters in the south is sure to be huge this year, which, coupled with a weak turnout among southern evangelicals, could be lethal by putting red states in play. Adding a prominent Christian to the ticket solves that problem and frees McCain up to focus on the battlegrounds instead of fighting a rearguard action to preserve his base. Adding Huckabee specifically to the ticket, with his blue-collar populist rhetoric, holds an extra advantage in giving him a shot at Hillary’s base of working-class Democrats in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/12/report-huckabee-tops-mccains-vp-shortlist/

As for Sen. Barr... I don't think he will matter to the race except as a place for people who wish to protest vote, though the issues would have to be addressed which he brings up, of course. Sen. Barr is also JUST like Obama or Hillary, for a pullout from Iraq quickly. He would be a disaster to Iraq and the fortunes of the Dinar.

Barr launches Libertarian White House bid
May 12, 2008
By BEN EVANS

WASHINGTON (AP) - Former Republican Rep. Bob Barr launched a Libertarian Party presidential bid Monday, saying voters are hungry for an alternative to the status quo who would dramatically cut the federal government.

Barr first must win the Libertarian nomination at the party's national convention that begins May 22. Party officials consider him a front-runner thanks to the national profile he developed as a Georgia congressman from 1995 to 2003.

If he wins the White House, he said he would immediately freeze discretionary spending in Washington. He also would begin withdrawing troops from Iraq and consider slashing spending at federal agencies such as the departments of education and commerce - as well as at overseas military bases.

The former U.S. attorney also said he would strictly enforce immigration laws.

"This notion that government owes something to people just because they're here does not resonate with me," he said. "This is not a charity."

Barr, 59, quit the Republican Party two years ago, saying he had grown disillusioned with its failure to shrink government and its willingness to scale back civil liberties in fighting terrorism. He has been particularly critical of President Bush over the war in Iraq and says the administration is ignoring constitutional protections on due process and privacy.

The 2004 Libertarian presidential candidate, Michael Badnarik, took less than 1 percent of the vote, placing fourth behind President Bush, Democrat John Kerry and Independent Ralph Nader.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080513/D90KGVFO0.html

That doesn't inspire me to trust the safety of the country from terrorist attack to this man. Note that the last Libertarian candidate took less than one percent of the vote.

Joe Liberman has said he is not open to being a VP, so that is out. Global Warming may have to be overlooked as an issue (something has to be) and sacrificed in order to get elected. Frankly, someone who can handle the country's concerns about terrorism (foreign and domestic) is a far more important qualification than if they believe in Global Warming. Also, recently McCain showed his willingness to consider the importance of the issue of life to his conservative base and not alienating them by trying to revise the Republican platform to suit his tastes, so that is good. The Left wishes to say he is not moderate unless he changes the GOP platform on abortion, but, quote, "If he were to change the party platform," to account for exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother's life, "I think that would be political suicide," said Tony Perkins, the president of the conservative Family Research Council, to ABC News. "I think he would be aborting his own campaign because that is such a critical issue to so many Republican voters."

Already the Left is saying that means he is flip-flopping, but, quote, "I don't know how you can accuse John McCain of being a flip-flop on a topic where the party rank and file that will be at the convention will support that plank even if his views differ slightly," said Brownback. "Newt Gingrich had the right statement: It's a pro-life party with a pro-choice wing."

So even if McCain believes there should be "exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother's life", I don't think he will change the platform which allows for no exceptions. Of course, we know the original decision by the Supreme Court (under which abortion was allowed legally) was only allowing abortion for those exceptions, and not "on demand". They also stated at the time that it would NEVER BE USED toward abortion "on demand".. though it evolved into that very thing. So legally, precedent shows that road is a road to allowing abortion for any reason. It should never have been allowed by the Supreme Court, and I continue to hope that McCain will not follow the Supreme Court in making the same disastrous mistake.

Sara.

-- May 14, 2008 5:33 AM


Sara wrote:

Actually, Carole, since you asked for opinions I will offer one more. The past two elections saw President Bush in the Whitehouse in large part due to the "silent majority" which are conservative and hold to Christian values. Both Democrats now try to pander to this group with talk about "faith" (in what, though?) and values (whose?). I think that the base they are trying to effect is not happy with the way the war has gone, but they still hold true to the right views of the spectrum. See this image:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV2B2lC9

This image is from a pollster. It shows that the majority voters are much closer to McCain than Obama. McCain's affirmation of the conservative position will bring voters over to him when contrasted with the FAR left views of Obama, simply because he is closer in view to their own opinions. As you can see.. Obama's "Change" rhetoric is very much different in view from what the majority voters believe and are living. As they begin to see that "change" as extreme (Wright, etc), they will gravitate toward McCain over time. As one pundit put it, Barack Obama has already been "Swift-Boated"

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POLITICS: Barack Obama has already been "Swift-Boated"
May 10, 2008

You know, one of the funny things about watching the Democrats is their alternation between fear and bravado about whether Republicans will "Swift Boat" their candidate this time around. Orwell once said that "The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable.'" This is roughly the way the Democrats use the term "Swiftboating" to suggest a political attack of thoroughgoing fraudulence and impropriety concocted out of whole cloth. Never mind that each and every one of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was a combat veteran, including a number of highly decorated veterans; it's casually accepted that they were all liars, knaves and pawns.

But the irony of conducting this discussion in the future tense ignores the fact that, by any reasonable definition, Barack Obama has already been Swift-Boated. A true Swift-Boating proceeds in five predictable stages:

1. The Democrat makes some claim that forms the center of his appeal and convinces his followers on the left that he can reach out to voters in the middle.

Kerry: I served with honor. Thus, you can trust me on national security. Bring it on. That dog won't hunt. Go read Doug Brinkley's book.

Obama: I am a post-racial candidate. I will lead us beyond the age of race-baiting preachers and grievance-mongers. I'm also a religious man who will end the Democrats' secular fixation. Go read The Audacity of Hope.

2. The Democrat's own words are accurately quoted against him, his own actions and associations are turned back on him.

Kerry: The video of his Senate testimony. The Winter Soldier hoaxes he peddled. The Christmas in Cambodia nonsense.

Obama: Rev. Wright, the main who coined "Audacity of Hope," turns out to be just another race-baiting preacher. Obama sneers at other people's faith and has to flee from his own church one step ahead of a bitter gun-toting mob.

3. The Democrat stops answering questions and hopes the media will drop the story.

Kerry: Six weeks where his only interview or press conference was with Jon Stewart.

Obama: Hey, I answered eight questions. Let me eat my waffle. No more debates.

4. The Democrat and his supporters whine and screech about the unfairness of the thing.

Kerry: They questioned my patriotism!

Obama: Racists! Distractions from the Real Issue, which is not my words or my judgment but my...uh....

5. Denial.

Kerry: I'm a strong closer.

Obama: Hey, that was the primaries. Did I mention that John McCain was old?

Comments:

1) Bravo! Well done.

Swiftboating - v. To expose the truth about a politician who is a pathological liar.

Posted by: Jarhead68

2) And..

Step 6: Media rewrite history and affirm denial, believing they have fooled the masses again.

Then,

Step 7: All but the dimmest bulbs among Independents in the electorate detect the pattern.

Step 8: Media insult perceptive Independents in multiple ways for their heresy.

Finally,

Step 9: Independents react to this contempt in the voting booth.

Posted by: Dave

http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2008/05/politics_barack_1.php

From this I think you can see that, in time, the public opinion will gravitate toward McCain once they contrast the two - the stage we are just beginning on now - so long as McCain gives them a distinct CHOICE between the two so that he is seen as much CLOSER to their own opinions. If McCain panders too much to the left in his attempts to appear "moderate" this can go against him by showing little difference between him and Obama (if they are perceived as both LEFT of the voters). He NEEDS to appear slightly to the right of the majority to be seen as a different (contrasting) choice, and he needs to have the Conservative base support him, so changing the Republican platform on abortion (for instance) would not be a smart move if he is playing to attract the conservative voters to his side. It is a short step to McCain, a LONG stretch to Obama, as public opinion will tell. This is why the Left constantly tries to tie McCain to the farther right views of Bush... to drive them to the FAR left where Obama is as a reaction. I think in time as the issues are heard that the public will end up more balanced.. and that means McCain, not Obama.

Sara.

-- May 14, 2008 2:06 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq PM in Mosul to direct al Qaeda offensive
By Waleed Ibrahim and Wisam Mohammed
Reuters May 14, 2008

BAGHDAD: Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki flew to the northern city of Mosul on Wednesday to take charge of a big offensive against al Qaeda in what the U.S. military says is the group's last major urban stronghold in Iraq.

Officials said Maliki went straight into meetings with top generals after arriving in the city, Iraq's third largest.

"The prime minister has arrived in Mosul to supervise the military operation," Defence Ministry spokesman Major-General Mohammed al-Askari told reporters in the city.

It was unclear how long Maliki would stay, but his visit is similar to when he flew to the southern city of Basra in late March to oversee a crackdown on Shi'ite militias there.

Iraqi military officials have said the goal of the operation in Nineveh is to "clean the province of al Qaeda remnants".

Vehicle curfews have been imposed throughout the province, whose capital is Mosul. The U.S. military is providing support, but the operation is Iraqi-led.

PEACE URGED IN BAGHDAD

In Baghdad, Iraq's security forces urged Sadr's movement to do more to ensure the weekend truce took hold and offered cash rewards for militiamen who gave up their weapons.

Major-General Qassim Moussawi, spokesman for Iraqi security forces in the city, said gunmen were still attacking troops in the capital despite the agreement to end nearly two months of fighting that has killed hundreds of people.

Despite the fresh violence, residents in Sadr's eastern Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City and the U.S. military said it was calmer there on Tuesday night compared to recent weeks.

A senior political aide to Sadr has urged patience with the truce and said it might take time to take effect.

http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/05/14/africa/OUKWD-UK-IRAQ.php

-- May 14, 2008 2:53 PM


Sara wrote:

French Iraq recruiters are jailed
14 May 2008

A French court has convicted seven men accused of recruiting young Muslims in Paris to fight against America-led forces in Iraq.

The sentences ranged from 18 months in prison to seven years in prison, with the cell's ringleader being jailed for six years.

The men were tracked down and arrested after a young Frenchman was found dead in the Iraqi city of Falluja in 2004.

Five of the seven men are French and the other two are from North Africa.

They were arrested in 2005, suspected of being part of an Islamist cell recruiting volunteers to join the Iraqi insurgency.

Boubakeur el-Hakim, 24, whose brother was killed in Iraq and himself fought in the country, was said to have incited friends from France to join him in suicide missions in Baghdad. He was given seven years.

The BBC's Alasdair Sandford says the group gained the nickname the "19th arrondissement cell" after the Paris district where most of those on trial grew up.

Investigators said they sent about a dozen Muslims to camps linked to al-Qaeda, although most of those on trial never made it to Iraq themselves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7400154.stm

-- May 14, 2008 2:58 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

Thank you very much. Your thoughts, dialogue, and reasearch exquiste..as usual !

Carole

-- May 14, 2008 3:16 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Baghdad undertakes massive improvement programme

The Mayoralty of Baghdad announced on Monday that it has started work on a road development programme to improve traffic conditions in and around the capital and that it has issued tenders worth IQD 1 trillion to repair the city’s sewage network.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 14, 2008 6:01 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Do you think the following article will complicate even further the relationship between Baghdad and Irbil regarding the pending oil law?
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Scores of tankers carry crude oil from Kurdistan, smuggle it to Iran

The Kurdistan Regional Governmenrt (KRG) has for some time been smuggling crude Iraqi oil in 35,0000 litre oil trucks from Kurdistan to Iran and onto the United Arab Emirates via Iran's southern sea ports, according to an investigative report.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 9:24 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Hydrocarbon law to be discussed after constitutional amendments, says IAF 15/05/2008 15:18:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Official spokesman for the Iraqi Accord Front, Saleem Abdullah al-Jubouri said that the Kirkuk issue, president authorities and article 15 related to regions are the most disputed issues
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 9:41 AM


Sara wrote:

McCain Outlines Vision Of Iraq Victory, Reduced Partisanship
In Ohio, McCain Outlines Vision That Achieves Iraq Victory, Curbed Spending And Bipartisanship
COLUMBUS, Ohio, May. 15, 2008

(AP) John McCain, by the end of a prospective first term, sees "spasmodic" but reduced violence in Iraq and Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden dead or captured and government spending curbed by his ready veto pen.

The Republican presidential contender also envisions April's annual angst replaced by a simpler flat tax, illegal immigrants living humanely under a temporary worker program, and political partisanship stemmed by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.

In a speech being delivered Thursday, McCain concedes he cannot make the changes alone, but he wants to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve.

"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain says in remarks prepared for delivery in the capital city of Ohio, a general election battleground. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem solving will begin."

To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the presumed GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.

While calling for Congress to drop mindless partisanship, McCain also chided the media _ with whom he has enjoyed a generally positive relationship _ for fueling contention with its campaign coverage.

"Campaigns and the media collaborated as architects of the modern presidential campaign, and we deserve equal blame for the regret we feel from time to time over its less-than-inspirational features," he said.

In outlining potential achievements of a first term, McCain implicitly was suggesting he would seek a second term, an attempt to mute suggestions he would serve only four years after being the oldest president ever to take office for a first term.

In particular, he sees a world in which:

_ "The Iraq war has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension. Violence still occurs, but it is spasmodic and much reduced."

_ The Taliban threat in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced.

_ "The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants," McCain said. "There still has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since Sept. 11, 2001."

_ A "League of Democracies" has supplanted a failed United Nations to apply sanctions to the Sudanese government and halt genocide in Darfur.

_ The United States has had "several years of robust growth," appropriations bills free of lawmakers' pet projects known as "earmarks," public education improved by charter schools, health care improved by expansion of the private market and an energy crisis stemmed through the start of construction on 20 new nuclear reactors.

_ Deocrats are asked to serve in his administration, he holds weekly news conferences and, like the British prime minister, answers questions publicly from lawmakers.

McCain also pledges to halt a Bush administration practice of enacting laws with accompanying signing statements that exempt the president from having to enforce parts he finds objectionable.

"I will respect the responsibilities the Constitution and the American people have granted Congress," the senator said, "and will, as I often have in the past, work with anyone of either party to get things done for our country."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/15/ap/politics/main4097910.shtml

-- May 15, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Ceasefire breaches not to end agreement, says Amiri 15/05/2008 13:35:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Lawmaker of the United Iraqi Alliance Hadi al-Amiri, head of the parliamentary security and defence committee, has stated that the breaches reported in implementing the Sadr City ceasefire agreement do not mean ending the agreement.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 9:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Washington hosts seminar on Article 140
UN special rep seeks a political formula, not a "hastily formed referendum"

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15 May 2008 (Kurdish Globe)
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Few U.S. officials have a thorough understanding of Article 140, says Jay Garner, former administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority of Iraq.

In cooperation with Pennsylvania State University, the Kurdish Institute in Washington held a special seminar on May 9 concerning the implementation of Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution.

Hawar Shally, head of the Kurdish National Conference, warned that not implementing Article 140 will harm the security and stability of Iraq.

He said Article 140 contains suitable procedures to address the disputed, Arabized areas. Those problems should be solved according to the Constitution; new views, therefore, should not be presented to address them.

Shally warned that "not implementing Article 140 will negatively affect relations between the people of Kurdistan Region and the Baghdad government."

Article 140 of Iraq's Constitution provides a clear road map for settling the issue of Kirkuk and other disputed territories in the north, all of which were affected by a ruthless campaign of gerrymandering and ethnic cleansing under Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party in order to Arabize the region. Kurds, who control the northern Kurdistan Region, see Kirkuk as their ancient capital. Arabs encouraged to move there under Saddam Hussein want it to stay under Baghdad's control.

Jay Garner, who attended the seminar, said few U.S. officials have a thorough understanding of Article 140. He believes that it can be implemented in the future.

Muhammad Ihsan, Kurdistan Regional Government's (KRG) Minister of Extra-Regional Affairs, said "the UN came into the issue [Article 140] following its delay on December 31, 2007. We are now waiting for the UN initiatives and suggestions. If their suggestions are in favor of the public interests and enable us to bring rights back to those whose rights were confiscated, we will support those suggestions as much as possible."

A referendum had been due by the end of 2007 to decide Kirkuk's status but was delayed for six months, partly to give the United Nations time to come up with proposals for settling the issue. Analysts say a vote on Kirkuk, which sits on one of the world's largest oil fields, could spark a bloodbath.

The UN's special representative to Iraq, Staffan de Mistura, said the status of the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk must be solved through a political formula and not a hastily organized referendum that could trigger violence.

A peaceful settlement of multiethnic Kirkuk's fate, which he called the "mother of all issues" in Iraq, would be vital to long-term stability, said de Mistura.

"Kirkuk needs to be solved through a political formula in which everybody, majorities and minorities, feel comfortable," he added. "Otherwise, no referendum will be able to solve it and there will only be ongoing conflict; the last thing Iraq needs is a conflict about Kirkuk," he added.

De Mistura recently stated that the UN would suggest a formula by May 15 to resolve conflicts on several disputed areas in Iraq that could serve as a template for Kirkuk.

He said he would propose options so Iraq could decide under which authority to put four disputed locations, which he did not identify. These locations would not include Kirkuk.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 9:57 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kurds announce major oil find
By Basel al-Khateeb

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15 May 2008 (Azzaman)
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Excavators have struck three oil fields with reserves estimated at about 2 billion barrels, Kurdish region’s Oil Minister Ashti Horami said.

The discovery is a signal that the region, currently including three provinces, is rich in oil reserves. The find is tempting for foreign oil firms which are vying to win deals to develop oil fields in the region.

The Kurds have signed several production-sharing agreements with companies including Norwegian DNO ASA and Turkey’s PetOil and Gnel Enerji. They have also singed a memorandum of understanding with Australia’s Woodside Petroleum and Heritage Oil and the U.K.’s Sterling Energy.

But the deals are still in question due to resistance from the Oil Ministry in Baghdad which considers them illegal.

But Horami defended the deals, claiming that the Kurdish regional government would reap 90 percent of revenues while other governments only obtained 20-40.

The Kurds have divided their region into small exploration blocks in order to lure medium-size oil firms. “Some majors wanted to have the whole region as one block or at least be divided into two,” Horami said.

He said splitting the Kurdish region into smaller blocks gave the authorities the chance to deal with many companies and strike deals with “much higher profit margins.”

The latest find is the largest in the region so far. But the Kurds say it is of a “very small scale” in comparison to the massive recoverable reserves of the oil-rich region of Kirkuk.

The Province of Kirkuk, which the Kurds want to annex, is one of the richest in Iraq holding reserves estimated at more than 40 billion barrels.

But there is much opposition in Iraq from across the political spectrum for the Kurdish ambition to have Kirkuk as part of their self-rule areas.

Oil companies are attracted to Kurdistan because of its relative safety compared with the rest of Iraq where it is virtually impossible for foreign oil companies to work.

Horami also said his ministry would construct two new refineries with a combined capacity of 100,000 barrels a day. He declined to say which company would build the refinery and which one made the new discovery.

He said the region has so far signed 20 oil development deals with firms from the U.S., Australia, Canada, South Korea, India and Turkey.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 9:59 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

There has been smuggling of oil all along.
I think the region is very thirsty for oil.
In time, Iraq will be the supply for that thirst. :)
That makes it a valuable future resource whose currency is worth more than the less than a penny value it now holds.
(As all of us Dinarians believe.. )

I do not think this particular smuggling, while deplorable, will have much impact on Iraq's economy or future.
Also, the countries taking the smuggled oil will cease to smuggle when Iraq has built facilities to send them their oil.
That is something both parties wish to have.

Iran's instigating instability in Iraq by equipping Iraq's enemies can only hurt them in their desire to secure oil for their future.
I see the smuggling as only a temporary business for opportunists - one which is of quite short duration - a few years.
Pipelines will take over that "market share" in time, and legitimate taxes will be paid on the goods to the Iraqi government.

I am sure the Iraqis are aware and working on the problem, though distracted with more pressing matters.
Perhaps some of the crackdown can be seen as addressing the problem of smuggling.
As they clean up these areas, there will be less smuggling and more government control.
So you can see that these military moves ARE addressing the smuggling, too. :)

Sara.

-- May 15, 2008 10:00 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I know we have not been posting the daily exchange rate from the CBI. I thought todays exchange rate deserved to be posted.
__________________________________________________________

Announcement No.(1166)

D.G. of Foreign Exchange Control

The 1166 daily currency auction was held in the Central Bank of Iraq day Thuresday 2008/5/15 so the results were as follows :

Details Notes
Number of banks 13 -----
Auction price selling dinar / US $ 1199 -----
Auction price buying dinar / US $ ----- -----
Amount sold at auction price (US $) 47.210.000 -----
Amount purchased at Auction price (US $) -----
Total offers for buying (US $) 47.210.000 -----
Total offers for selling (US $) ----- -----
(www.cbiraq.org)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 10:03 AM


Sara wrote:

This will help:

Iraq upgrading more refineries
Wednesday, May 14, 2008

BAGHDAD — Iraq has signed a contract to expand an oil refinery.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry has concluded a contract with a U.S. company, Colorado Industrial Construction Services Co., to modernize the refinery in the southern city of Najaf. Under the $85 million contract, Colorado Industrial would help increase refinery capacity from 20,000 to 30,000 barrels of oil per day. The Najaf refinery was constructed in October 2006. Under the contract, the U.S. firm would build a third production unit by late 2009.

Iraq has been expanding refinery capacity in an effort to ease the gasoline shortage. The Oil Ministry plans to build refineries in Karbala and Nasseriya as part of a plan to increase refinery capacity by nearly 500,000 barrels of oil per day.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/me_oil0133_05_14.asp

-- May 15, 2008 10:11 AM


Sara wrote:

And this..

Iraq Asks Oil Majors To Submit Contract Proposals - Sources
Thursday, May 15, 2008
By Hassan Hafidh
OF DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

AMMAN (Dow Jones) -- Iraq has asked major international oil companies to submit their final contract proposals to boost production at the country's largest oil fields after several rounds of talks in the Jordanian capital, Amman, since the beginning of this year, people close to the Iraqi Oil MinistryOil Ministry said Thursday.

They said technical talks between Iraqi oil officials and senior executives were concluded in Amman last week. Earlier, Iraqi oil sources said that these technical support contracts could be signed as early as June. Each would last two years and could be extended for another year.

Iraq wants to increase production by 600,000 barrels a day in six producing oil fields in northern and southern Iraq. They are Kirkuk in the north, West Qurna 1, Zubair, Missan, Rumaila and Luhais in the south. Iraq is currently producing between 2.3 million and 2.4 million barrels a day from its southern and northern oil fields.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidDN20080515005950#DN20080515005950

-- May 15, 2008 10:17 AM


Sara wrote:

Al Qaida 'prime minister' of 'Islamic state of Iraq' captured
Wednesday, May 14, 2008

BAGHDAD — A senior Al Qaida commander has been captured in Iraq.

The Iraqi Defense Ministry reported the arrest of the chief of the Al Qaida-aligned Islamic State of Iraq. The commander and two of his lieutenants were reportedly located in the Diyala province.

The ministry identified the Al Qaida commander as Khaldoun Abudllah Al Dhalaki. Al Dhalaki was the so-called prime minister of Islamic State of Iraq, which has sought to convert Iraq into an Islamic caliphate.

No other details were given by the Defense Ministry.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/me_iraq0130_05_14.asp

-- May 15, 2008 10:27 AM


Sara wrote:

Interesting how Iran's fears poke themselves into Iraqi affairs..

Strategic Agreement with US is in the Interest of Iraq - Official
14/05/2008
By Shadha al-Jubori

London, Asharq Al-Awsat- Shiekh Jalaluddin al Saghir, a leading member of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC) and member of the United Iraqi Alliance has told Asharq Al-Awsat that the strategic agreement that will be approved this summer between Iraq and the United States is in the interest of Iraq will not harm the interests of Iraq’s neighbors.

Al Saghir’s comments to Asharq Al-Awsat came in response to the objections raised by Hussein Shariatmadari, adviser to the Iranian Supreme Guide Ali Khamanei published in Asharq Al-Awsat Tuesday against the agreement.

Shariatmadari told Asharq Al-Awsat that the strategic agreement is a return to the cold war between Iraq and Iran and the latter’s isolation,” and would turn Iraq into “an American satellite.”

In an editorial published in the Iranian Keyhan Newspaper, Shariatmadari said the agreement allows the United States to use Iraqi territory, airspace, and territorial waters to attack countries in the region and would harm Iraq’s ties with its regional neighbors.

Al Saghir told Asharq Al-Awsat, “It is too early to talk about the agreement since even the first draft is yet to be finalized.”

We understand Iran’s fears regarding this agreement because it will affect a number of countries…it is only natural that Iran expresses its concerns,” added al Saghir.

He went on to affirm that the agreement does not entail the presence of US military bases in Iraq and added that the Americans do not want to establish such bases.

Moreover, al Saghir denied claims made by an Iranian newspaper that the strategic agreement had been forced upon Iraq by the US.

http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=1&id=12746

I am sure the Iraqis always negotiate their agreements with Iraqi security in mind.
Having the ability for the US to use their airspace in the case of impending (military or nuclear?) threat, is in their interest. Not to mention protection of their waters. The US is there at Iraqi request, approved by a UN resolution requesting such aid.

Iran may like a sheep next door, rather than a power to be dealt with.. after all, they fought a long war once.
This shows that Iranian warring attitude toward Iraq never stopped as Iran is doing so again - exerting their influence with force.
They may both be Shiites, but they are sovereign nations and Iraq will follow its own path..
and the Iraqis will pursue whatever the Iraqis see as in their best interests for their country's security,
and they are responsibly doing so without harming the surrounding countries or their security.

Sara.

-- May 15, 2008 11:09 AM


Sara wrote:

Iran adds to drought misery
Dams constructed by the Islamic Republic are siphoning off valuable water resources from some of the neediest, most drought-stricken areas.
15 May 2008 (Kurdish Globe)

While the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has already announced a drought in the region, Iran has constructed several water dams on Alwan and Sirwan Rivers that flow the region from Iran, causing several water shortages in Kurdish region.

Due to lack of water and the drying up of both the Sirwan and Alwan rivers, several officials in the Garmian area in the southern parts of the region fear they may have to evacuate citizens from affected areas.

Garmian District Mayor Tariq Rashid said a survey discovered that 434 out of 758 villages in the district are in dire need of water. "Gradually, the villagers migrate to the towns and cities due to water shortage," Rashid said. "It is possible that 40,000 people could leave the villages during the summer season."

Garmian, an area of around 9,000 square meters, has a total population of 450,000.

Iran's construction of the dams has raised concern among the inhabitants of the area, particularly this year because of the drought and lack of water in the rivers, dams, and wells.

Omer Aziz, a resident of Khanaqeen near the Iranian border, said that water has totally become invaluable in his town.

"It is has been for two months that we don't have water; we are being provided with water by tankers, therefore it's even more valuable for us than gold," said Aziz. "If things go on this way we will all catch diseases, and epidemics [will take hold]."

Ibrahim Hassan Bajalan, head of the Diyala Provincial Council, said that in addition to drinking-water shortages, irrigation has also been seriously damaged and the majority of the cultivated agricultural lands beside Alwan River in Khanaqeen have dried up.

According to figures disclosed by district officials, more than 60% of the residents will face a water shortage this year. Khanaqeen Mayor Mohammed Mala Hassan said they are attempting to solve the problem through various methods currently in development, and clean water is being distributed to all neighborhoods that incur water problems on a daily basis.

Mohammed Amin Faris, from the Ministry of Water Resources, thinks that the central government, not the KRG, should negotiate with the Islamic Republic on the dam issue. To his knowledge, the Iraqi Ministry of Water Resources has contacted Tehran officials but hasn't received a response, and it seems they aren't ready for talks. Faris said they have repeatedly warned Baghdad about the negative impact Iran's project was having on the region's water capacity.

According to Dindar Zebary, KRG coordinator at the United Nations, his government has provided $100 million to fight drought. They contacted UNESCO, UNDP, and the WFP regarding the issue and a special plan has been developed, but he refused to give details. According to evaluations made by government institutions, Garmian will suffer the worst drought effects this summer.

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/31122

the Iraqi Ministry of Water Resources has contacted Tehran officials but hasn't received a response, and it seems they aren't ready for talks.

The Iranians never seem ready to talk about things, do they?
Maybe they are into action, not talk.
And these are the same critics of the Iraqis negotiating a deal to protect their sovereignty with America?
Do you think the Iranians could have less than the Iraqi's best interests at heart - in BOTH cases?

Sara.

-- May 15, 2008 11:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Editorial Highlights 05-15-08
Political pressure to lay Iraqi oil law to parliament before the end of this month (sotaliraq -arabic)
London: Mena Al-uraibi
After 15 months of the approval of the Iraqi Council of Ministers a draft law of Iraqi oil, it remains at a standstill. Iraqi responsible sources said that there are Interior «political pressure» to lay the oil bill in parliament before the end of this month and activate the file, which is still hindered by differences between different political blocs and those between the Iraqi Oil Ministry and the Kurdistan Regional Government. The efforts in Baghdad to involve the parliament in resolving the oil law comes whilst the Kurdistan region continue its oil progress by announcing the discovery of oil fields with the oil reserve of two billion barrels. Sources close to the Iraqi oil file that there are two major issue obstacles to reaching agreement among various political factions, the first issue concerns the contracting and contracting powers, and secondly, the nature of management of oil. While the the Kurdistan Alliance demands the opening oil Management to private sector to develop it, many other parties such as the Dawa Party and the Accord Front want to keep oil decisions central in Baghdad and through a national oil company. An Iraqi official who asked the «Middle East» not to disclose his identity, said that «there is political pressure to speed up the first reading of the bill in the House of Representatives». It is noteworthy that the issuance of petroleum law is an essential objective for the recovery of the Iraqi economy, which will be discussed at the meeting of the International Covenant with Iraq in Stockholm on May 29 . Iraqi deputy Fuad Massoum told «Middle East» that «there is a semi-final return to the February version of the bill last agreed upon by all parties that participated in the government at that time, including Sadrist bloc and the existing Iraqi Accord Front, and ratified It ». He added: «We expect to discuss a draft law in Parliament this month and before the start of the parliamentary recess». The official source said that the Iraqi government is trying to push the petroleum industry forward through «partial» actions by the maintenance of the oil sector but «not live up to the required level and need because of the hindrance of Iraqi petroleum law and the absence of a legal framework t». He added that the government was aware of the need to pass a law on oil to begin investment in the sector and its development.

It is noteworthy that Iraq is now working to expedite a group of oil service contracts of short-term value each to about 500 million dollars. For its part, the Kurdistan Regional Government continue to make progress in the field of oil under the law of the Kurdish oil endorsed by the Kurdish Parliament summer 2007. The Minister of natural resources in the Kurdistan Regional Government, Eshti Horami, announced last night the «discovery of three new oil fields in the province with a reserves of up to two billion barrels». He added that the value of foreign investments in Kurdistan would be 10 billion dollars, and (KRG) will complete, by the end of this year's, two refineries of 40 thousand barrels a day, and work is under way to complete tow more refineries . The minister pointed out to the exploration of three new oil fields in Kurdistan during his ministry period, and expected the oil production in Kurdistan during the next four or five years to hit a million barrels a day, thus reinforcing the general revenues of Iraq and Kurdistan by about 35 billion dollars. Fuad Massoum stressed that the «Kurdistan Regional Government is not in isolation from Iraq and this income is part of general revenue of Iraq». Horami said in front of the Kurdish Parliament: «many in Baghdad want through the new law and to delete those words contained in the articles and paragraphs of the Constitution which give the territorial Government powers in the field of oil». The oil production actually began in the province after drilling the first wells in the region of Zakho in November 2005 by the Norwegian compny DNO. Middle East
(http://iraqog.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 12:30 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Here we are 15 months after the inital HCL draft was submitted to parliment in 2007. Regardless of other articles claiming great progress based upon the above article, we are no closer to its passage and implementation.

If Iraq is to become prosperous in the global economy, they must invest heavily in their petro chemical industry. The oil majors are ready, we are still waiting on the Iraqi's.

Will be here 15 months later asking whether the Iraqi's can pass the HCL?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 15, 2008 3:22 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain Predicts Iraq War Won by 2013 if He's Elected President
By VOA News
15 May 2008

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain says if elected, the United States will have won the war in Iraq by the end of his first term, in 2013.

During remarks Thursday in Columbus, Ohio, McCain predicted Iraq will be a functioning democracy by that time, though small bursts of violence will still occur.

He predicts the Taliban's influence in Afghanistan will be reduced, and al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden will have been captured or killed due to Pakistan's cooperation with the U.S. in successfully adapting counterinsurgency tactics in lawless tribal areas.

He also rejected partisan politics that he says has consumed Washington, and said he will ask Democrats to serve in his administration.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2008/05/iraq-080515-voa01.htm

-- May 16, 2008 12:08 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Putting together a country from scratch is not a quick process, unfortunately. It takes years, but it it not without an end. If McCain can say the war will be won by 2013, then we can see that within that amount of time there will be the HCL law passed, too.

Slow going, I know. But these are megapolitical changes which take much time. The sooner it occurs the better, of course. The news continues to give us gleanings about positive action toward Iraqi economic help and independence - which must include the HCL law being passed to attract foreign investment and development. :)

Sara.

-- May 16, 2008 12:18 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq's al-Maliki offers conditional amnesty to Mosul's armed groups
AP May 16, 2008

BAGHDAD: Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has offered members of armed groups in Mosul an amnesty in exchange for surrendering their weapons.

He says the gunmen have 10 days starting Friday to hand over medium and heavy weapons and receive unspecified monetary compensation in return.

The statement also offers amnesty to those described as "duped" into taking up arms against the government as long as they were not involved in crimes against civilians and did not "have blood on their hands."

Al-Maliki's amnesty offer comes one day after he flew to Mosul to take personal charge of a major crackdown against al-Qaida in Iraq militants in the northern city.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/16/africa/ME-GEN-Iraq-Amnesty.php

-- May 16, 2008 12:34 PM


Sara wrote:

A reasonable explanation for this continuing PATTERN?

Perhaps because of his inexperience Senator Obama surrounds himself with advisers that contradict his stated policies..”

===

Barack Obama sacks adviser over talks with Hamas
Barack Obama had criticised former President Jimmy Carter for holding direct talks with Hamas
May 10, 2008

Tom Baldwin in Washington
One of Barack Obama’s Middle East policy advisers disclosed yesterday that he had held meetings with the militant Palestinian group Hamas – prompting the likely Democratic nominee to sever all links with him.

Robert Malley told The Times that he had been in regular contact with Hamas, which controls Gaza and is listed by the US State Department as a terrorist organisation. Such talks, he stressed, were related to his work for a conflict resolution think-tank and had no connection with his position on Mr Obama’s Middle East advisory council.

Mr McCain has high-lighted the Democrat’s pledge to negotiate directly with nations such as Iran – whose leaders talk of wiping Israel off the map – and a statement from Hamas saying that it hoped that Mr Obama would win the presidency.

The Republican National Committee has amassed a 1,000-page dossier on Mr Obama, with researchers spending weeks in Chicago seeking fresh material. He is already being criticised for his links with Rashid Khalidi, a Columbia University professor who has branded Israel an “apartheid system in creation”.

Mr Malley, asked if the Obama campaign was aware of his contact with Hamas, said: “They know who I am but I don’t think they vet everyone in a group of informal advisers.”

Randy Scheunemann, Mr McCain’s foreign policy chief, suggested that Mr Malley was part of an emerging pattern in which other advisers had been repudiated after throwing confusion over policies on trade and Iraq. “Perhaps because of his inexperience Senator Obama surrounds himself with advisers that contradict his stated policies,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3897414.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=2015164

-- May 16, 2008 12:52 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq Finds Its Arab Neighbors Are Reluctant to Offer Embrace
Sunni States Refuse to Forgive Debt, Send Ambassadors
By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 16, 2008; Page A09

When Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal greeted his Iraqi counterpart with a bear hug at a Persian Gulf conference last month, Bush administration officials watching from the sidelines were all smiles. After years of trying to bring their client state and the Arab giant together, it looked like things were finally starting to click.

But despite U.S. entreaties, there has been no second date. Riyadh -- along with every other Sunni Arab state -- still declines to send an ambassador to Baghdad or to forgive billions of dollars of Hussein-era debt.

To frustrated U.S. matchmakers, it is blindingly obvious that Iraq needs the Arabs and the Arabs need Iraq, as a stable economic and political partner and a regional bulwark against Iran. Iraq may be a Shiite-majority country with a Shiite-dominated government -- like Iran -- they say, but it is Arab, not Persian.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/15/AR2008051503730.html?hpid=moreheadlines

The article has many explanations of why they might not be forgiving debt and sending ambassadors (worth a read), but within it is this statement:

"They will wait for the American election," Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari predicted in a recent interview.

I think the key reason for refusal to help Iraq along.. and a key reason Iraq is not dealing with the HCL law in a timely fashion.. is the US election. What is the point of giving economic support or passing long-term laws when the next President could pull out and put Iraq into a bloody "civil" war (backed by Iran)? The forgiveness of debt is undoubtedly predicated on some goodwill from Iraq toward the donor countries. What goodwill will remain if the current leaders are overthrown in an Iranian sponsored coup and killed? Better to hold onto the debt Iraq owes as a country until it is seen if stability or chaos is about to result for Iraq. The article also says:

Those Arab states who once had representation in Iraq either scaled back or closed their embassies by the end of 2005 -- after Jordan's embassy was bombed, Egypt's ambassador was killed, and Algerian and United Arab Emirates diplomats were kidnapped. Some said security is their only hesitation.

Not the security NOW, but LATER.. after the next election. What if the US pulls out.. what will be their security THEN? The next paragraph is interesting:

The Iraqi government has offered the Arabs space inside the fortified Green Zone, where the U.S. embassy and much of the Iraqi government is located.

THAT is likely why the Sadrists have been keeping up their shelling of the Green Zone.. That is Iranian backed militants saying, "You move there, we will target you.. and if a Democrat takes the Whitehouse.. we will be coming after you in force." The article goes on:

The real basis for Arab reluctance, the U.S. official said, "is political. It's a choice, an acknowledgement that there is a new Iraq, of recognizing that its political structures, its constitution, its government, is in fact legitimate." The Arabs, unsurprisingly, say that is nonsense. "Iraq is an Arab country and we want the same things the Americans want," an Arab official said.

YES, the Arabs want peace and stability just like Americans and everyone else. They are not reluctant to recognize Iraq and its place in the region. But they are not stupid. It is a wait and see attitude until the future is disclosed concerning the path the US will take toward the Middle East region and Iraq. And that is determined by the US elections. Would you go full steam ahead with the appearance now of such a strong possibility that someone may reverse all the gains in Iraq and overthrow all your efforts to help Iraq and Middle East stability in a bloody coup?

Back to Rob N's observation of no improvement toward the HCL law... Will there be the passage of the HCL law before the US elections.. or will the Iraqis (stall and) wait, like everyone else is doing.. to see what exactly is going to happen with the leadership change in the US? What would you do if you were in their shoes? It would take great faith (on the scale of knowing for sure the outcome/will of God in the US election) to move forward with things the way they are now. The elections are a make or break dealmaker for the Iraqi people and their country.. with their very lives on the line. Perhaps the Middle Eastern powers are more practical men of this world who, without concrete physical proof that the direction will be favorable toward them, are not willing to make the leap of faith necessary to move toward the economic and political support we all know Iraq needs.

Sara.

-- May 16, 2008 2:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

I just read your post and I must say it makes sense. Even with a U.S. withdrawl the Arab community has the financial ability to help Iraq and thwart Iran's regional ambitions. It is my hope, the Arab nations can unify in a sense against Iran even if the Obama or Hiliary is elected.

In my opinion, even if Obama or Hiliary beats McCain in the general election. The U.S. presence iraq will continue. What is said on the campaign trail is often different from the White House or Congressional seat.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 16, 2008 3:26 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

If our Dinar investment rests on the outcome of the Presidential Election we could see the downfall of the unity government and see the country divided by ethnicity. The progress made to this point would be lost.

The destruction of the unity government and a return to civil war could not bode well for the New Iraqi Dinar.

For our sakes, it appears regardless of whether you are a democrat or republican it is better for us if John McCain becomes President.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 16, 2008 4:43 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - I must agree with you that, as Dinar holders who wish the good of Iraq, "For our sakes, it appears regardless of whether you are a democrat or republican it is better for us if John McCain becomes President."

True. Also, this gives us a taste of the "tax and spend" mentality of giving goodies that we will be in for long term if a Dem reaches that office.. or they continue to hold sway in the two houses of Congress:

Where is your hard-earned tax money going to? Congress at work..

290 BILLION dollars.. is going to.. among other things.. help black farmers sue the government, apparently...
QUOTE:

Reopen a major discrimination case against the Agriculture Department. Thousands of black farmers who missed a deadline would get a chance to file claims alleging they were denied loans or other subsidies.

===

Congress Sends Veto-Proof Farm Bill to Bush's Desk
Thursday, May 15, 2008

WASHINGTON — With veto-proof margins, Congress on Thursday sent President Bush a bill boosting farm subsidies and money for food stamps to help the poor deal with rising grocery prices.

Bush has threatened to veto the $290 billion bill, saying it is fiscally irresponsible and too generous to wealthy corporate farmers in a time of record crop prices.

But Congress disagreed, with both chambers passing the measure by well more than the two-thirds majority needed to override a veto. About two-thirds of the bill would pay for domestic nutrition programs such as food stamps and emergency food aid for the needy. An additional $40 billion is for farm subsidies, while almost $30 billion would go to farmers to idle their land and to other environmental programs.

Agriculture Secretary Ed Schafer again criticized the bill after Tuesday's House vote, saying it has the wrong priorities.

"It does not target help for the farmers who really need it, and it increases the size and cost of government while jeopardizing the future of legitimate farm programs by damaging the credibility of farm bills in general," he said.

Congress has only overridden one veto, on a water projects bill, during Bush's two terms.

The bill would:

—Boost nutrition programs, including food stamps and emergency domestic food aid, by more than $10 billion over 10 years. It would expand a program to provide fresh fruits and vegetables to schoolchildren.

—Increase subsidies for certain crops, including fruits and vegetables excluded from previous farm bills.

—Extend and expand dairy programs.

—Increase loan rates for sugar producers.

—Urge the government to buy surplus sugar and sell it to ethanol producers for use in a mixture with corn.

—Cut a per-gallon ethanol tax credit for refiners from 51 cents to 45 cents. The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.

Reopen a major discrimination case against the Agriculture Department. Thousands of black farmers who missed a deadline would get a chance to file claims alleging they were denied loans or other subsidies.

—Pay farmers for weather-related farm losses from a new $3.8 billion disaster relief fund.

—Provide the first-ever infusion of federal farm dollars — more than $400 million — to clean up the Chesapeake Bay.

The bill also includes a few home-state provisions inserted by lawmakers, including tax breaks for Kentucky racehorse owners and additional aid for salmon fishermen in the Pacific Northwest.

Despite the overwhelming vote, the bill does have some farm-state critics.

Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, a former Republican chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee, voted against the bill.

"I do not believe our nation is best served by this farm bill that continues to make payments that defy common sense, snubs our trading partners, and balloons taxpayer spending," Lugar said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356075,00.html

The reason it is pointed out very particularly as helping BLACK American farmers would be???
Could it be politically motivated, at all?
Could it help the black community to see that they will be favored for goodies.. if they vote for Obama?
Buying votes.. ??
Or are their motives "pure as the driven snow"?

Sara.

-- May 16, 2008 5:36 PM


Sara wrote:

General Cites Iranian Links to 'Special Groups' Terrorists in Iraq
By Gerry J. Gilmore
May 15, 2008

WASHINGTON - So-called "special groups" terrorists operating in Iraq apparently are receiving training, arms and funding from Iranian sources, a senior U.S. military official posted in Iraq said today.

"Over the course of the last several months, we have publicly discussed numerous times, and shown numerous times, the evidence on four separate occasions on what we have found and continue to find: Iranian-made weapons in the hands of criminals in Iraq," Army Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner told reporters during a Baghdad news conference.

U.S. officials previously have discussed evidence that indicates some Iraqi militants "are being trained in Iran and receiving funding from Iranian Quds forces to conduct violent attacks in Iraq," Bergner said. The Quds Force is a branch of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard widely believed to be responsible for operations, including terrorist operations, outside Iran's borders.

Such Iranian meddling in Iraqi affairs violates Iraq's sovereignty, Bergner pointed out.

"With this evidence, the government of Iraq has recently engaged its neighbor and again sought fulfillment of Iranian commitments previously made to stop the flow of weapons, training and funding" to insurgent groups in Iraq, Bergner said.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has established a committee to collect and analyze the reports of Iranian activity and to develop a unified approach to address the issue, Bergner said.

"We will continue to provide information and evidence we have collected to the government of Iraq, to be considered along with their own evidence from the Iraqi security forces," Bergner said. "As coalition forces, we will continue to fulfill our commitment under the United Nations mandate, together with our Iraqi partners, to support the government of Iraq's efforts to improve security and stability."

U.S. and Iraqi forces are targeting Iranian-supplied insurgents in Iraq, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates applauded Maliki's recent decision to dispatch Iraqi troops into Basra to take on Iranian-backed extremists.

The Iraqi forces "have found substantial caches of Iranian-supplied weapons" in Basra, Gates said. This development, he said, has opened the eyes of the Iraqi government regarding the apparent Iranian complicity in supplying arms and other materials to some insurgent groups in Iraq.

"I think it has awakened them to the reality of the magnitude of Iranian meddling in Iraq," Gates said. "And, so, we are being very aggressive in going after the networks in Iraq and the individuals who are interfering and are supplying weapons from Iran."

The apparent Iranian supply links to some insurgent groups in Iraq is being taken seriously by U.S. and Iraqi officials, Gates noted.

"We have a number of other activities under way" within Iraq designed to undercut Iranian efforts to supply insurgents, the secretary said.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20263.shtml

-- May 16, 2008 6:03 PM


Sara wrote:

Commander Says al-Qaida 'Virtually Destroyed' in Kirkuk
By Jim Garamone
May 14, 2008

WASHINGTON - Violence in Iraq's Kirkuk province Iraq has dropped by 70 percent, and coalition and Iraqi forces have "virtually destroyed" al-Qaida in Iraq in the region, the commander of the U.S. brigade combat team in the area said today.
Army Col. David Paschal, commander of 1st Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, said that as security improves in the strategic northern province, changes are happening in the economy and in governance that help cement the security progress in place.

Four developments have helped the battle against insurgents in the Rhode Island-sized province of 1.5 million, Paschal told Pentagon reporters in a teleconference from his headquarters at Contingency Operating Base Speicher. The developments are:

-- Precision targeting against insurgent leadership;

-- The growing capabilities and capacities of the Iraqi police and army;

-- Establishment of a "Sons of Iraq" program, in which citizens aid in the security effort; and

-- Partnership with Kirkuk's provincial reconstruction team, composed of State Department and military personnel working along with experts from other governmental and nongovernmental agencies to aid local development.

The brigade arrived in September 2007 and has killed or captured 20 high-value targets. U.S. soldiers also captured 63 "persons of interest" in the area, the colonel said. Enemy activity began trending down in August and remains low, he added.

None of this would be possible without the improvement in the Iraqi security forces, Paschal said. Iraqi police are responsible for maintaining security in Kirkuk, a city of roughly 800,000 people. The 15th Brigade of the 4th Iraqi Army Division conducts independent, intelligence-driven operations outside the city. The Iraqi army unit has also conducted joint operations with the fledgling Iraqi air force.

With more security, the Iraqi people are feeling more confident, Paschal said.

The reconstruction team helps rebuild the province and gives the Iraqis the tangible benefits of peace.

Kirkuk is the northern oil center of Iraq, and it is providing the lifeblood to the country. "Since our arrival, there has not been an interdiction on the oil pipeline," Paschal said. "In fact, we have exceeded all ... pre-war level exports. Just last month, the Northern Oil Company exported 13 and a half million barrels of oil, which has been a phenomenal increase in its capacity."

Kirkuk may turn over to provincial Iraqi control in November or December this year. "That will be based on the capability of the Iraqi security forces to maintain the security gains that we've achieved and continue to defeat the insurgents," the colonel said. "I think it all ties back into the economic opportunities that we are working in conjunction with the provincial reconstruction team."

The team also is encouraging outside investors to come to the province. "With the increased security, we've had some outside investors come that are interested in ... conducting some projects within the Kirkuk province," Paschal said.

The Iraqi government also is hosting a small-loans program, anywhere from about $2,500 to $10,000, which opens up small businesses. "With the increased security, what we're starting to see is some of these that I would refer to as smaller 'mom and pop' businesses that are coming back into play," Paschal said.

The challenge ahead is to sustain the new security climate, Paschal told reporters. "When we first arrived, the enemy was the al-Qaida in Iraq," he said. "We have virtually defeated al-Qaida in Iraq within the Kirkuk province. It's important that we continue to maintain the pressure."

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20245.shtml

With such success within our grasp.. why would the American people take the pressure off by electing a Democrat who would overturn all the progress and allow the terrorists to return in force? Have the American people no compassion for what the Iraqi people have suffered.. would they (by their vote) wish that evil back on them again?

Sara.

-- May 16, 2008 6:33 PM


Sara wrote:

Sobering...

For those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.

Recently, God has drawn a contrast for America in the circumstances of the world..
for those who have the eyes to see it, and the ears to hear the instruction it gives.
It is a contrast between governments.

In China, we see a government God has moved with compassion, seeking to help its people during a time of peril.
In Myanmar, we see a government without compassion, who does not care about its people's suffering.
Which things are in allegory.

America stands on the threshold of choosing one of these two government itself.
A government on the one hand under a Republican who has compassion for the Iraqi people..
and which would seek to help and support those people during a time of national peril and terrorist threat.
And on the other hand a government under a Democrat who is without compassion for the Iraqi people,
one which would make the wrong decision and deplorably walk away from the carnage..
leaving men, women and children to suffer and die ignoble deaths at the hands of radical terrorism.

If America should choose a Democrat and the lack of compassion under such a leader..
this will be moved by circumstances back upon her.
She will reap what she has sown:

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

Accordingly, there will come a time of deep sorrow and suffering and death on US soil,
an unfortunate circumstance as unpreventable as these natural disasters have been -
with many lives of American people hanging in the balance and discernment and actions of her leaders.
And in that time, that same inexperience and lack of compassion would be turned back upon the US.
The US populace will have chosen the very same fate for the nation of America they condemned Iraq to.
The American people will be shown no mercy as they have shown no mercy.
They will have no discernment in how to act in the face of an unprecedented terrorist attack/threat..
as they sowed that lack of decernment to the Iraqi people.

God in His mercy before this election has given to America an illustration and a choice.
America:

Deu 30:15 See, I have set before you this day life and good, and death and evil;
Deu 30:16 In that I command you this day to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, that you may live and multiply: and the LORD your God shall bless you in the land...
Deu 30:17 But if your heart turns away, so that you will not hear, but shall be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
Deu 30:18 I denounce to you this day, that you shall surely perish, and that you shall not prolong your days upon the land...
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your decendants may live:

America - choose wisely who you will elect to the office of President, and place in Congress..
the lives you save will be - not just the Iraqi people's - but your very own, and your little ones.

Sara.

-- May 17, 2008 8:36 AM


Sara wrote:

The Iraqis need support to do this..
Significant support:

Iraq PM orders new assault on al-Qaeda in Mosul
SyriaTimes
15-5-2008

MOSUL, Iraq - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered a new assault on al-Qaeda in the main northern city of Mosul on Wednesday, the militants last urban bastion in Iraq according to US commanders.

Maliki travelled to Mosul with top aides to take command of the US-backed drive against al-Qaeda in the province, Defence Ministry spokesman Major General Abdul Kareem Khalaf said. ‏

The Prime Minister, who ordered a similar offensive against militias in the main southern city of Basra two months ago, was accompanied by Interior Minister Jawad Bolani and Defence Minister Abdel Qader Jassim Mohammed.

"Operation Umm al-Rabiain (Mother of Two Springs) has just started against those threatening the civilian population and attacking Iraqi forces in Mosul," spokesman Khalaf told AFP. ‏

"This operation is targeting terrorists and criminals," he said, alluding to al-Qaeda, which has been accused of a string of major attacks across Nineveh province of which Mosul is the capital. ‏

Khalaf said some 560 people had been rounded up in the area since Tuesday. ‏

Earlier this week, security forces announced a "new phase" in their operations in Nineveh, which borders both Syria and Turkey. ‏

Officials said they advanced from the preparatory stage of the campaign to a full-scale offensive on Wednesday in a bid to flush out al-Qaeda in Iraq, who are militants loosely linked to the network of Osama bin Laden. ‏

The US military confirmed that they were providing the Iraqi security forces with air cover, logistics support and intelligence.

"The operation is conducted and led by Iraqi security forces, but we have a significant contribution to that," Major General Kevin Bergner said in Baghdad. ‏

Just one deadly exchange was reported overnight, when US troops killed two men suspected of planting a roadside bomb, a US military spokesman said. ‏

http://syriatimes.tishreen.info/_default.asp?FileName=67857117720080517101441

-- May 17, 2008 8:51 AM


Sara wrote:

Changing:

Pelosi Now Confident Of Iraq Reconciliation
From a dismayed and confused Associated Press:

US House speaker Nancy Pelosi visits Iraq
By SINAN SALAHEDDIN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD - U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a top Democratic critic of the U.S.-led war in Iraq, expressed confidence during a visit to Iraq on Saturday that expected provincial elections will promote national reconciliation.

Pelosi, who led a bipartisan congressional delegation to Baghdad, spoke after the group met with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and Gen. David Petraeus, the top American commander in Iraq.

She welcomed Iraq’s progress in passing a budget as well as oil legislation and a bill paving the way for provincial elections in the fall that are expected to more equitably redistribute power among local officials.

She said the visit was to “pay our respects to our troops and at the same time learn more about what the situation is on the ground here.

Pelosi was hopeful about the upcoming elections after meeting with Iraq’s Sunni parliamentary speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani.

“We’re assured sure the elections will happen here, they will be transparent, they will be inclusive and they will take Iraq closer to the reconcilation we all want it to have,” she said.

Pelosi’s visit comes a day after she led a bipartisan congressional delegation to Israel to mark the 60th anniversary of Israel’s founding…

===end quote===

This is quite a shock, coming as it does from “surrender at any price” Pelosi. Quite a change in tune.

It seems like only three months ago this same Solon was calling Iraq “a failure, a disaster” on CNN.

As we noted at the time, via the Politico:

Pelosi calls Iraq a ‘failure’
By Mike Allen
Feb 10, 2008

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said twice Sunday that Iraq “is a failure,” adding that President Bush’s troop surge has “not produced the desired effect.”

“The purpose of the surge was to create a secure time for the government of Iraq to make the political change to bring reconciliation to Iraq,” Pelosi said on CNN’s “Late Edition.” “They have not done that.” …

Pelosi’s comment came during a discussion of her call for “the redeployment of our troops out of Iraq.”

Anchor Wolf Blitzer asked: “Are you not worried, though, that all the gains that have been achieved over the past year might be lost?”

“There haven’t been gains, Wolf,” the speaker replied. “The gains have not produced the desired effect, which is the reconciliation of Iraq. This is a failure. This is a failur…

===end quote===

Cindy Sheehan must not be polling well.

Too bad Ms. Pelosi will now be far to the right of her party’s standard bearer.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/pelosi-now-confident-of-iraq-reconciliation

-- May 17, 2008 3:28 PM


Steve wrote:

-- May 18, 2008 4:40 PM


Sara wrote:

I keep hearing the Democrats use as a "talking point" a very low blow - the age of Senator John McCain. He is 71. "He's too old to serve. He could die," they say. (God is in control of how long people live, not age.)

Has anyone made the connection that as the Democrat party sows these words - even as they judge and measure Senator John McCain - so they will reap those words right back on their own party? Like with their 76 year old "liberal anchor of the U.S. Senate" whose "current term ends in 2013"?

It would be wiser to wish both of them well.. and leave their fates and the length of their lives in the hands of God - so that those negative "talking points" don't have to be reaped to the uttermost by those who sow them so liberally. Perhaps a change of heart now concerning such comments may prevent any further necessity to reap those comments back upon their own heads.

===

Sen. Ted Kennedy 'Conscious' and Responsive After Suffering Seizures
Sunday, May 18, 2008
Fox News/AP

Sen. Ted Kennedy had a good night sleep and his condition appeared to be improving Sunday as his friends, family and colleagues congregated around him after two apparent seizures sent him to a Boston hospital.

Kennedy spokesman Stephanie Cutter said Kennedy was awake, alert and spending time with his family in between treatments at Massachusetts General Hospital to determine the nature of the episodes that sent him there a day earlier.

Kennedy, 76, did not suffer a stroke and "is not in any immediate danger," said Dr. Larry Ronan, the senator's primary care physician, said Saturday. He was "conscious, talking, joking with family," according to a spokeswoman.

"Over the next couple of days, Senator Kennedy will undergo further evaluation to determine the cause of the seizure, and a course of treatment will be determined at that time," Ronan said.

Kennedy, the liberal anchor of the U.S. Senate and remaining patriarch of the storied Kennedy family, suffered one seizure in the morning, and then another en route to Massachusetts General Hospital.

"He is undergoing a battery of tests at Massachusetts General Hospital to determine the cause of the seizure," Kennedy's Senate office said in a statement. "Senator Kennedy is resting comfortably, and it is unlikely we will know anything more for the next 48 hours."

As word of his condition spread, well-wishers poured out to express their concern and hopes for a swift recovery.

"There'll be some tests I guess on Monday, but he seems to be doing pretty well. And we just hope for the very best for him and are confident he'll be fine," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said Sunday.

Kennedy is the second most-senior member of the Senate. The Democratic senator was first elected in 1962, to fill out his brother John F. Kennedy's term.

In October, Kennedy had surgery to repair a nearly complete blockage in a major neck artery. The discovery was made during a routine examination of a decades-old back injury.

The hour-long procedure on his left carotid artery — a main supplier of blood to the face and brain — was performed at Massachusetts General. This type of operation is performed on more than 180,000 people a year to prevent a stroke.

The doctor who operated on Kennedy said at the time that surgery is reserved for those with more than 70 percent blockage, and Kennedy had "a very high-grade blockage."

Kennedy is the lone surviving son in a famed political family. His eldest brother, Joseph Kennedy, was killed in a World War II airplane crash. President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963, and their brother Robert Kennedy, attorney general in the Kennedy administration, was assassinated in 1968.

Considered a liberal lion in the Senate, Edward Kennedy was re-elected in 2006. His current term ends in 2013. The senator made a failed run for the presidency in 1980.

Despite his health problems, Kennedy maintains an aggressive schedule on Capitol Hill.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356497,00.html

-- May 19, 2008 4:53 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq Has the Largest Oil Reserves in the World

Sunday, 18 May 2008 12:27 Bliss

Iraq Has the Largest Oil Reserves in the World, 350-525 Billion Barrels, and US War Planners Knew it
The Iraq News Agency published an important report by Omar Najib about the new estimates of the Iraqi oil reserves. The report points to the Iraqi oil wealth as the main reason behind the US invasion of Iraq. The report stated that the Saddam Hussain government estimate of Iraqi oil reserves reached 525 billion barrels before the US invasion. But it did not publish its findings to avoid tempting US oil companies to press for a US invasion of the country.
On April 28, 2008, the Iraqi government Kurdish deputy prime minister, Burhum Saleh, announced that Iraqi oil reserves have reached 350 billion barrels. This is a huge difference from the official pre-war estimate of 115 billion barrel.
Announced Saudi oil reserves are 250 billion barrels.
The report also mentioned that Iraqi natural gas reserves are also the largest in the world, exceeding Russian reserves (1.7 trillion cubic feet), and the reserves of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Iran together.
The report further mentioned admissions from Alan Greenspan, Paul Wolfowitz, and John Abi Zaid that the US invasion of Iraq was basically because of the country's oil wealth. Pakistan Daily (www.Daily.pk)

-- May 19, 2008 8:48 AM


mattuk wrote:

Unity urged on Iraq war anniversary

Iraqi civilians have struggled to lead normal
lives amid the continuing conflict [AFP]

Iraq's president has welcomed the removal of the previous leader Saddam Hussein on the fifth anniversary of an invasion by US-led forces, while urging Iraqis to work towards peace.

Jalal Talabani said on Thursday that "the march that started five years ago will not succeed" unless there was "real reconciliation" among Iraqis.

His comments come a day after George Bush, the US president, said that a "surge" of 30,000 US troops to Iraq had succeeded in improving security in Iraq and the wider world.

"Because we acted, the world is better and the United States of America is safer," he said on Wednesday at the Pentagon.

But so far, the war has killed more than 4,000 US and allied soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

Between 104,000 and 223,000 died between March 2003 and June 2006 alone, according to the World Health Organisation.

Reconciliation effort

As the war in Iraq entered its sixth year, Iraq's prime minister said that Iraqis must select the right people to lead the country's provinces.

After five years, was the Iraq war worth it?

Iraq's parliament has so far been paralysed by competition between parties driven by sectarian interests, and a previous provincial vote in 2005 was boycotted by Sunni Muslims.

"Reconstruction and the building of services and culture cannot be achieved in the shadow of economic corruption, manipulation and the placement of dishonest people in sensitive places," Nuri al-Maliki said in a speech in Hillah, capital of Babil province.

"These things must be reviewed before the provincial elections."

Iraq's presidential council on Wednesday signed off a measure which clears the way for a new provincial vote to be held by October 1.

"Now we have enough time to think about who can serve the country and who cannot, who adopts the right thoughts and who adopts destructive thoughts," al-Maliki said.

UN warning

The UN's senior official in Iraq said on Thursday that time is running out for Iraqi politicians to resolve their differences.

In depth coverage on the fifth anniversary of the
Iraq invasion
"They should have more dialogue among themselves because time is short," Steffan De Mistura said.

"We are all here together to work with the Iraqis, but they should know, and they know, but we should remind them today, that the time is short for getting their own acts together as well."

He particularly cited the delay in passing a law which will regulate the distribution of the country's vast oil wealth.

"The political process is not taking enough opportunity from that window of opportunity in order to make sure that the oil law and other laws move forward," De Mistura said.

The oil law has been delayed in the parliament for more than a year due to differences between Shia, Sunni and Kurdish factions.

Surge 'working'

While Bush said on Wednesday that violence in Iraq had dropped as a result of the US troop "surge", he acknowledged that a lot more progress was needed for long-term stability there.

Bush asserted his view that the war in Iraq
is necessary and worthwhile [AFP]

"The gains we've made are fragile and irreversible, but on this anniversary, the American people should know that since the surge began, the level of violence is significantly down, civilian deaths are down, sectarian killings are down," Bush said.

"The surge is working and as a return of the success in Iraq we have begun bringing some of our troops home."

However, he said that US troop withdrawals from Iraq above those already agreed "must not jeopardise" what he called recent improvements in security there.

The war, which is estimated to have already cost the US more than $400bn, has plunged the country into chaos.

Bush faces continued criticism for his administration's strategy on the war, with even General David Petraeus, the commander of US forces in Iraq, telling CNN that "progress is tenuous" in Iraq.

Iraqis and US forces are attacked on a daily basis by armed groups, while fighting between Sunni and Shia factions has continued unabated.

Some progress

Despite continuing security problems, there has been progress towards peace in large areas of southern and central Iraq, where the situation is far less violent than it was a year ago.

Working in a war zone

Five years on: The coalition of the willing in Iraq

Iraq's failing health care system
An increase in US forces, which over the past year raised the level of troops to more than 160,000, has helped reduce the violence.

Tens of thousands of Sunni former armed groups have also been recruited to fight al-Qaeda.

At the same time, Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shia leader, has ordered his powerful Mahdi Army militia to refrain from attacks on Iraqi civilians and security forces.

Armed groups, however, continue to carry out spectacular attacks.

"Certainly there is an effect from the surge, and the US military figures show that attacks are down," James Bays, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Iraq, said on Wednesday.

"But they show that attacks are down to the level of 2005. So it's fair to say that it has gone [down] from extremely bad, but 2005 was not a peaceful time in Iraq. It's still very very dangerous on the streets."

Failed economy

Adding to the security concerns in Iraq, the country's economy is in deep crisis.

US commanders say that a 'surge' of US troops
has contributed to Iraqi security [AFP]
Between 25 and 50 percent of the workforce are unemployed, according to government figures.

Oil exports are the country's main source of income, but have remained a source of contention between rival political factions.

Public services like water and electricity have yet to be fully restored, despite billions of dollars having been spent on often badly managed reconstruction projects.

And government appeals for Iraqi refugees to return to help rebuild the country have been largely ignored.

Fewer than 50,000 have returned from neighbouring Jordan and Syria, while more than two million have fled.

-- May 19, 2008 8:51 AM


mattuk wrote:

Playing the Iraq Oil Card
Friday, May. 09, 2008 By ROBERT BAER

Iraqi flags flutter during the opening ceremony of a new oil refinery plant in the Shiite holy city of Najaf, central Iraq, on March 15, 2008.

If anyone had any doubt that Iraq was a lot about oil, they shouldn't after the recent Capitol Hill appearance by our ambassador to Baghdad, Ryan Crocker. In a closed House hearing, Crocker put the fear of god in Congress. His message: If we leave Iraq, Iraq will destabilize the Gulf, and a destabilized Gulf equals unstable oil prices.
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With oil bumping pushing past $120 a barrel, you can bet you could hear a pin drop in the room. But what exactly was he talking about? Iraqi Shi'a militias invading Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, burning their oil fields, driving the price of gasoline up to $10 a gallon and us into a depression? Crocker wouldn't elaborate on his vague warnings, preferring to leave it at a sense of dread.

There was a time when we could count on Saudi Arabia to make up a shortfall in oil when something like Iraq came up. During the Gulf War Saudi Arabia boosted its production by 3.1 million barrels a day to make up for the 5.1 million barrels a day of Kuwaiti and Iraqi production that was taken off markets. Oil prices rose relatively little.

Today, Saudi Arabia either refuses or can't increase its production. The peak oil Cassandras are convinced the Saudis can't. Saudi Arabia's mega fields like Ghawar are depleted, they say. And we'd better get used to gasoline at $4 a gallon and up.

But Crocker wasn't all bad news. He said that if we were to stabilize Iraq, and attract investors to the oil sector, Iraq could become the largest producer in the world, surpassing Saudi Arabia. Crocker didn't put it in terms this baldly, but he might as well have said: We keep an army in Iraq, and we go back to the days of cheap oil. Anyone can afford to drive an SUV if they want one.

Crocker assured Congress that we are making progress. The Iraqi government retook the port of Basra that week, Iraq's main export terminal. And now that the government is in full control of Iraq's oil infrastructure things will get better.

What Crocker didn't talk about was Iran — and its plans for Iraq's oil. Months before retaking Basra, the Iraqi government started talks with Iran about running an oil pipeline to Abadan, Iran's main export terminal. Iran also has said that it will have a say in Iraq's mega field Majnun, which may contain 30 billion barrels of oil — a rival to Saudi Arabia's larger field. I suspect, though, if he'd been asked about Iran, Crocker would have said it is simply one more reason we should stay in Iraq, to keep Iran at bay.

Crocker could be right. We have no idea what is on the mind of the populist Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. If Sadr were allowed control of the Basra oil terminal, would he shut down Iraq's oil exports? Shell Kuwaiti fields?

Nobody really knows, which is just what the Bush Administration is counting on. They got us into this mess in the first place by preying on people's fears, and now they are continuing to do so. And $10 a gallon for gasoline is his equivalent of an economic WMD.

Robert Baer, a former CIA field officer assigned to the Middle East, is TIME.com's intelligence columnist and the author of See No Evil and, most recently, the novel Blow the House Down.

-- May 19, 2008 8:59 AM


Got Brain? wrote:

Iraq has a quarter of the remaining CHEAP OIL left in the world. The American economy is completely dependent on oil, and would completely collapse without it. Iran is building a nuclear bomb, and will explode one, very soon. A power vacuum would emerge, if Obama is president, and America leaves Iraq. An Iranian Army with nuclear weapons would be impossible to dislodge from Iraq. And the Iranian public wouldn't whine over a few thousand military casualties required to take over Iraq. At over a hundred dollars a barrel, Iran would be happy to control the world's oil. Happy, rich, and very very powerful, and able to buy all the weapons they want from China and Russia and France, who would be happy to sell them to the Iranians. Controlling Iraq, Iran would have Uncle Sam over a barrel. That's what Iran wants. That's what Obama wants. Obama rhymes with Osama for a reason..... It's the president's job to guard the national interest, and the economy, not to put the fate of the American people in the hands of radical terrorists in Tehran.

Barrock Obama is an idiot, or a traitor, or both.

-- May 19, 2008 11:08 AM


Sara wrote:

Got Brain? - Actually, he's a BABE

Those very sage words of wisdom of yours are lost on the young and blindly optimistic whose only hope is for a false peace with no sacrifice or defense of freedom being necessary. All the while Iran makes double time creating their nuclear bombs and pursuing an agenda of world domination. It reminds me of the movie "Independence Day" where the peaceniks all go up on top of a building waving placards for peace.. These are doing the same thing toward the terrorists. Unfortunately, these peaceniks will lead us all to receive the same fate as the ones on Independence Day if cooler heads such as yours do not prevail, as you so aptly noted.

In a time when there is no peace possible with the enemy, these placard-waving peaceniks who would negotiate with the terrorists are as silly as that group was seen to be in the movie. Equally sincere in their beliefs that all we need to do is show ourselves friendly and the other side will immediately cozy up and be our friends, they do not understand that some will never negotiate and are bent on our destruction. Obviously, they never read the enemy's press statements and instead rely fully on the figment of their imagination which allows them to optimistically believe the world is a place simply brimming with peace.

This deceived worldview likely comes from the fact they have never seen war and have been raised in peace to value "peaceful dialog" with unrepentant enemies over freedom. The peaceful circumstances they have been privileged to be raised in have blinded them to the harsh reality of how the world really works. The US does not enjoy peace and safety because she is the greatest diplomat on earth.. but because she is the largest military power on earth. ALL power ultimately flows from the barrel of a gun. We can be polite about it, but that is the fact they have failed to absorb. A little detail their University professors neglected to mention in their fantasies of peace without a history of sacrifice. Those in World War Two who fought so we could have peace and not live under the Nazi claws never thought that their decendants were so stupid as to teach the next generation that peace is preferable to war at any cost - including handing the country over to the enemy and embracing him and his demands as "reasonable".
As Amir Taheri wrote:

Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.

In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.

According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133544

But reasoning with the peacenik folks has never come to anything. They defy logical analysis, as with Obama at whose feet they swoon. They believe he will reconcile them to this enemy with the same fervor that the peaceniks on Independence Day did... and if they were to win the nation and the Whitehouse, with the exact same result as those people got in the movie. It is a fight to the death.. and the peaceniks are not playing. They are fiddling while Rome burns - or waving placards as they do. Truly, for those who are so foolish as to vote Democrat, their choice is to elect a woman or a babe - particularly as concerns foreign policy:

Isa 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead you cause you to err, and destroy the way of your paths.

Truly, this is not a blessing. Both the child in foreign policy (Obama) and this woman (Hillary).. are curses to the people of America. If America were to choose the inexperience of the babe (Obama) or the rulership of a woman - neither is a blessing from God, but a curse to be lamented - a handing of America over to her enemies by God Almighty.

Isa 3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.
Isa 3:5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

This is a curse God gives to a people who will not listen to or follow Him. Such a curse would make the enemies of America very happy, of course. Which is why the terrorists support the babe and the woman and their policies,
QUOTE:

Top Hamas political adviser endorses Obama for President, says they support Obama's "foreign policy vision"

During an interview on WABC radio Sunday, top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said the terrorist group supports Obama’s foreign policy vision.

“We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election...

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_1.html#134498

AND:

Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto
Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence
Posted: March 20, 2008
By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence.

Obama's campaign also did not reply to phone and e-mail requests today for comment.

Obama aide wants talks with terrorists

Malley, an Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_1.html#134297

Mere coincidence that Hamas endorses Obama's foreign policy and that his church published their manifesto?
Why WOULDN'T the terrorists support Obama and hope he wins the election?

As for the constant harping by the Left that such talk is mere "fear mongering".. that is because babies only like peace and safety inside their insulated worlds where their mommies carry them around in snuglis and push them in baby carriers. The "nasty" world (which is unfair) is for grown-ups.. and the American people should elect some adults into office or they will suffer the consequences of the Left's blind Babyland policies, as your post again so aptly illustrated.

Sara.

-- May 19, 2008 2:25 PM


Sara wrote:

Hamas and the other terrorist groups and enemies of the US (including Iran) would be happy if Obama took the Whitehouse.. because such a inexperienced babe could indeed further their plans to attack the US, as President Bush also noted recently,
QUOTE:

President Bush says in an interview that new attack on US is his worst worry
Tuesday, May 13, 2008

WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush said Tuesday he was disappointed in "flawed intelligence" before the Iraq war and was concerned that if a Democrat wins the presidency in November and withdrew troops prematurely it could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States."

He acknowledged concerns about leaving the unfinished Iraq war to a Democratic successor. Both Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton have said they will bring troops home if elected.

Bush said his "doomsday scenario of course is that extremists throughout the Middle East would be emboldened, which would eventually lead to another attack on the United States."

http://www.mworld.com/m/m.w?lp=GetStory&id=306337431

A "fear" the peacenik placard-waving crowd discounts.. just as those on the top of the buildings waving placards discounted any danger in the movie Independence Day.

Sara.

-- May 19, 2008 3:13 PM


Sara wrote:

Good news.. eventually. :)
Hattip Keonee.

Iraq biggest ever emerging market, says deputy PM
Web posted at: 5/20/2008 1:51:40
Source ::: AFP

sharm-el-sheikh • Iraq's deputy prime minister said yesterday that his country was the world's largest ever emerging market, with foreign companies lining up to invest in the war-ravaged economy.

"Iraq is the largest ever emerging market that you can think of," Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh told journalists at the World Economic Forum on the Middle East in Egypt's Sharm-El-Sheikh.

"There is nothing in Iraq that doesn't require investment, but the state cannot solve it and so we look seriously to the private sector."

He said that Iraq was predicting $70 billion in oil revenue this year, with reserves that "could well exceed" 350 billion barrels, and with the International Monetary Fund slating eight percent growth in 2008.

"It hasn't taken off yet, but when it does take off, it will be very fast," Saleh said of the country's economy.

Vaunting Iraq's investment opportunities, Saleh said that a tender to turn a large former army garrison in Baghdad into housing had seen "applications from 30 major international companies, mostly from the Gulf and Egypt."

But Saleh, a former prime minister of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan-run region of Iraqi Kurdistan, stressed that the private sector would itself have to do what the state was unable to accomplish.

"After decades of mismanagement we need to call a spade a spade and admit that the state can't do it," he said of the oil sector.

He admitted that confusion remained for foreign companies wanting to invest in oil exploration and exploitation in the north of the country-over which authority to sign the contracts with, Baghdad or the Kurdistan regional government.

And Saleh said a national oil law to resolve the problem would not be finalised any time soon.

Oil Minister Hussein Al Shahristani said in February that he hoped an oil law would be finalised this year.

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&subsection=Gulf%2C+Middle+East+%26+Africa&month=May2008&file=World_News2008052015140.xml

-- May 19, 2008 8:42 PM


Sara wrote:

House speaker meets Pelosi, expresses concern over U.S. forces pullout
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Monday , 19 /05 /2008

Baghdad, May 17, (VOI) - Iraq’s Parliament Speaker al-Mashhadani met on Saturday his U.S. counterpart Nancy Pelosi currently visiting Iraq, expressing his concern over a non-binding congressional resolution to withdraw the U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2009.

“Despite the improved capabilities of the Iraqi forces to carry out military operation in places such as Basra and Mosul, they are not fully capable to preserve the people of Iraq and its riches,” Mashhadani told reporters after meeting Pelosi in Baghdad.

“I reminded her of the moral duty of the U.S. toward Iraq, to maintain the democracy it initiated in the country. If security was absent, democracy would turn into no more than ink on paper,” Mashhadani added.

For her part, Pelosi who arrived earlier on Saturday in Baghdad, told reporters that she discussed with Mashhadani the forthcoming provincial elections, the progress made by the armed forces, and investments in Iraq.

http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=79544&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1

-- May 20, 2008 1:18 AM


Sara wrote:

Just an interesting snippet in the Global Warming debate for you to consider...

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Obama camp spies endgame in Oregon
by Alice Ritchie Sat May 17, 2008

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Pitching his message to Oregon's environmentally-conscious voters, Obama called on the United States to "lead by example" on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080517/pl_afp/usvote

What exactly does that mean to the US lifestyle of everyday Americans?
No air conditioning in the summer? No heat in the winter?

"That's not going to happen."

Sounds like change to me.
Just wondering what exactly do you envision these changes to be?
What about not driving your SUV... ??
Not eating as much as you "want"...??
What exactly does he have in mind as changes for the country...
all in the name of doing good for the cause of Global Warming?

Oh, for interesting reading.. for the other side of the story:
31,000 Scientists Rejecting Global Warming Theory to be Named Monday
over 31,000 now on the list, all with degrees in science -- including 9,000 PhDs! -- Quote: It is evident that 31,072 Americans with university degrees in science - including 9,021 PhDs, are not "a few." Moreover, from the clear and strong petition statement that they have signed, it is evident that these 31,072 American scientists are not "skeptics."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/05/18/31-000-scientists-rejecting-global-warming-theory-be-named-monday

Sara.

-- May 20, 2008 1:34 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

About your comment on Obama's wife not being first lady material. Normally, I would think such discussions were a side issue to considering the candidacy of the person running for President because usually the spouse is quiet and supportive and not making political statements which make waves - so the Presidential spouses should be left alone - out of the spotlight of a person running for the office of President, since they are not running for the office themselves.

But when I saw Barak's wife speak about the country of America as she did, I had some concerns run through my mind, thoughts like this video expresses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmWEaqxkGtU

She said these words while out on the trail.. it was a pointed political statement of her stance and views toward the country and I think the point this video makes is that she has not been a patriotic American (never been proud of her country), and that means something to most of the voting public (at least those who cling to guns and God, anyway).

If she had not made such a pointed political statement about her view of the country (her lack of being proud of it), there would not be a need to rebut her viewpoint. But she did. Obama saying she should be off limits to rebuttal is nonsense - if she did the crime, she can do the time (before the media/US populace's scrutiny). And if no offense nor crime was committed, it will come out when the people hear both sides of the debate/case. Obama's wish to shield her from intrusive scrutiny is admirable, however, she publicly opened herself to this - it is therefore within the perogative (legal rights) of public debate - and so it has become necessary for those who care about the country to rebut her arguments against it. If it was only about presentation style or dress, that is one thing. But this is something more than that, so I think this case is an exception to the normal rule of not examining with careful scrutiny the spouse of a Presidential candidate.

Sara.

-- May 20, 2008 1:53 AM


Sara wrote:

An interesting contrast on how the fortunes of war could go.
Scenerio A:

Would Obama's Election Mean Mideast Nuclear War?
By Michael J. Gaynor
MichNews.com
May 19, 2008

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Obama (already endorsed by Hamas) is elected President in November (instead of someone Israel could trust to support it), between Election Day 2008 and Inauguration Day 2009, Israel, with or without the aid of the United States, may deem military action against Iran essential to its national security.

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JFK's election as President of the United States of America in 1960 led to the Bay of Pigs fiasco the next year and his meeting in Vienna with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev in 1961 led to the Cuban Missile Crisis the year after that (because Khrushchev concluded that young Kennedy was weak and chose to try to take advance of that perceived weakness by installing offensive nuclear missiles in Cuba, 90 miles from the United States).

Would the election of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. as the 44th President of the United States of America in November of 2008 result in nuclear war in the Middle East, sooner or later, because Israel would conclude that it needs to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons if no one else does, just as it decided to stop the late Saddam Hussein's Iraq from developing nuclear weapons during the Reagan Administration? Would Israel opt to attack, and use its own nuclear weapons to get the job done, BEFORE Inauguration Day 2009?

Team Obama may say that's unthinkable, but the truth is that it was not long ago that Israel took out a facility in Syria being used to develop a Syrian nuclear capacity and Obama's declared willingness to personally talk unconditionally with the rulers of Iran and Syria, the state sponsors of the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists, may well prompt Israel to strike while George E. Bush is still the President of the United States.

Senator William Borah (1865-1940), a Republican isolationist, lamented as Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

Senator Borah was a hopelessly hopeful (and obviously enormously egotistical) optimist whose optimism was not tempered by realism.

Definitely NOT presidential material, especially in the Nuclear Age.

History shows that legitimizing and aggrandizing Hitler made him a greater threat, not a lesser one, much less no threat. The 1938 Munich Pact was a big mistake from the perspective of the appeasers and a big success for Hitler. So too was holding the 1936 Olympics in Germany. Treating Hitler as appeasable strengthened him.

Will the naturally hopeful American people become reckless and entrust the Presidency of the United States of America to a charismatic young fellow who is feckless?

That's what Team Obama wants.

Winston Churchill: "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

Israelis don't feed crocodiles.

Wikipedia: "Appeasement, literally: calming, reconciling, acquiring peace by way of concessions or gifts.... Most commonly, appeasement is used for the policy of accepting the imposed conditions of an aggressor in lieu of armed resistance, usually at the sacrifice of principles. Usually it means giving in to demands of an aggressor in order to avoid war. Since World War II, the term has gained a negative connotation....of weakness, cowardice and self-deception."

Martin Gilbert, The Roots of Appeasement (1968): "At bottom, the old appeasement was a mood of hope, Victorian in its optimism, Burkean in its belief that societies evolved from bad to good and that progress could only be for the better. The new appeasement was a mood of fear, Hobbesian in its insistence upon swallowing the bad in order to preserve some remnant of the good, pessimistic in its belief that Nazism was there to stay and, however horrible it might be, should be accepted as a way of life with which Britain ought to deal."

Neither form of appeasement works.

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the current Pied Piper of Hope and Change, announced during a debate last year that as President of the United States he would negotiate with the repulsive rulers in Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Syria and Venezuela without preconditions.

Obama's chief rival for the 2008 Democrat presidential nomination, Hillary Rodham Clinton, quickly and quite properly described that kind of presidential approach as naive.

Naive: "deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment."

To be sure, the approach to dangerous dictators that Obama declared he would take as President is hopelessly deficient in worldly wisdom and informed judgment.

Reality: On national security, Obama is no Clinton, and Clinton is no John Sidney McCain.

Recently, President Bush did NOT criticize anyone by name, but Obama quickly pretended that he HAD been personally attacked in order to raise himself to presidential level, for his own purposes, thereby demonstrating the value of even a falsified debate with a President of the United States.

In fact, President Bush was wise to reassure Israel, because last year Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, had met with Bashar al-Assad, the President of Syria (in Syria), and this year former President Jimmy Carter, a Democrat, had met with Hamas (in the Middle East too).

Remember, Israel took out Iraq's nuclear facilities during the Reagan Administration and it is thinking very seriously about doing the same to Iran's nuclear facilities.

If Obama (already endorsed by Hamas) is elected President in November (instead of someone Israel could trust to support it), between Election Day 2008 and Inauguration Day 2009, Israel, with or without the aid of the United States, may well deem military action against Iran essential to its national security.

In "Is Barack Obama America's Neville Chamberlain?," Barbara Stock eloquently emphasized why Israel may chose to act quickly if Obama is elected, or even appears likely to be elected:

"Panicked Democrats rushed to any camera and microphone that could be found to feign outrage over President Bush’s insinuation that the presumed Democratic nominee for president would go, hat in hand, to speak to leaders of countries that openly support and fund terrorism around the world. In truth, that is exactly what Barack Obama has clearly stated he would do. As the leader of the most powerful country on the face of the planet, he would meet, without any pre-conditions, with any murderous, tin-plated, dictator who wants to have his picture taken with the president of the United States.

"Hardly a week passes that the Islamic leaders of Iran, using their puppet mouthpiece, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, don’t threaten America’s friend and ally, Israel, with total annihilation. Anyone with more than one active brain cell knows that Iran is not only the greatest and most prolific exporter of terrorism in the world, but may well be only a year away from possessing nuclear weapons...."

Ms. Stock: "President Bush was not engaging in the 'politics of fear' but the politics of honesty. Appeasement has never been successful and never will be. It is no wonder that Barack Obama and his party faithful became hysterical over pointing out the fact that Obama is woefully unprepared to deal with foreign policy."

EXACTLY!

Ms. Stock asked: "Does Obama hold himself in such high regard that he honestly feels he will be able to make the Iranian leaders see the error of their ways, destroy their nuclear weapons program, and give Israel a group hug?"

Even if he does, Israelis are not deluded. And they have nuclear weapons as well as a strong survival instinct.

Ms. Stock: "On the home front, Barack Obama is bad enough with his tax, tax, and tax-some-more policies, but his neophyte and downright gullible views of foreign affairs will get Americans killed."

The man may bring nuclear war in the Middle East merely by appearing likely to be elected President!

Ms. Stock: "The Democratic reaction to President Bush’s remarks, which were general at best, is a clear indication that Obama’s total lack of knowledge of how to deal with our enemies could be an election disaster for the leftists who are backing him and they know it."

Such an election disaster for the leftists would be the best case scenario for the United States, Israel, the rest of the free world and world peace.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20289.shtml

-- May 20, 2008 3:55 PM


Sara wrote:

Contrast that with Scenerio B:

49% Say Victory in Iraq Likely if McCain Elected
Monday, May 19, 2008

If John McCain is elected President, 49% of voters say it is at least somewhat likely that the United States will win the War in Iraq. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 20% believe victory in Iraq is likely if Barack Obama is elected in November.

However, the survey also found that voters believe Obama is more likely than McCain to bring home U.S. troops from Iraq. If Obama is elected, 59% say it is at least somewhat likely that virtually all combat troops will come home from Iraq during his first term. Just 43% believe the troops are that likely to come home if McCain is elected.

Those who believe that winning the War is more important have a high degree of confidence that McCain can achieve that goal--84% believe that victory is at least somewhat likely if McCain is elected.

Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Democrats say it is more important to get the troops home while 72% of Republicans say it is more important to win the War. Unaffiliated voters are evenly divided—47% say bringing home the troops is the top priority while 42% say victory is more important.

Unaffiliated voters are also evenly divided as to the prospects for victory if McCain is elected—46% of unaffiliated voters say victory is likely while 45% say it is not. If Obama is elected, 15% of unaffiliated voters say victory is likely while 77% disagree.

Conservatives, by a 67% to 26% margin, say victory is more important. Liberals, by an 80% to 11% margin, hold the opposite view.

Just 33% of voters under 30 consider victory the top priority.

In the race for the White House, Obama and McCain are essentially tied at this time according to the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/49_say_victory_in_iraq_likely_if_mccain_elected

Contrasting these viewpoints - those who think electing Obama will mean "peace in our time" could get the opposite result - nuclear war in the Middle East precipitated by putting an Israel-unfriendly and unsupportive candidate forward. The US could be FORCED to go to war without wishing to by such a scenerio, while President Bush still is in the Whitehouse.

Interesting.. what are your thoughts board on how this would work out for the Dinar and Iraq's fortunes? Better or worse? The fortunes of the US and coalition forces in Iraq/Afghanistan? Those brought into this conflict as it emerges? How taxed would the US fighting forces become? For the people back in the States, could there be a draft? Certainly this presents the possibility of a chain of events.. with unforseen and long-reaching consequences for the Middle East, Iraq and the world.

Sara.

-- May 20, 2008 4:13 PM


Difference wrote:

-- May 20, 2008 7:54 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

In my estimation, the offering of Hiliary Clinton and Barack Obama as potential Presidential nominees the democratic party is in chaos. Running a woman and and a black muslim indicates the severe trouble the party is in. What I am about to type may not be politically correct but I believe to be the truth. Both Hiliary Clinton and Barack Obama are tokens to satisfy the liberal lefts desire for a candidate.

Knowing the potential loss the party faces it chooses to offer a woman and a black man as their choices. Will Al Gore ride in on a white horse to save the party from its own destructive nature. This is unlikely. They may offer up Hiliary as the sacrifical lamb in 2012. Barack nor Hiliary have the qualifications to be to President. Only John McCain, while I disagree with some of his policies is the best likely candidate to occupy the white house.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 20, 2008 10:06 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Rob N - I agree with you about the Presidential nominees and their qualifications.
Thanks. :)
As for Iraq.. there is progress there. :)
See:

We are making progress in Iraq
The Wall Street Journal, 20 May. 2008
By Nechirvan Barzani

While the media offers mostly images of violence, and many Americans have grown weary of the war in Iraq, I bring hopeful news to Washington this week as I meet with the administration and members of Congress.

Since 2003, we have built the Kurdistan Region as a model for democracy and a gateway for development for all of Iraq. We are willing partners in this transition toward an Iraqi government that is representative of all its people. Through our peshmerga forces, we provide some of the most effective units against al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. We Kurds are committed to a federal, democratic Iraq at peace within its borders and with its neighbours.

We are working with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Iraqi leadership in Baghdad on the difficult issues facing our country. Our relationship with Iraq's federal government has never been better. And progress is being made on an oil law, the status of disputed territories, the proper role for Iraq's neighbours to play, and on relations between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and Turkey.

First, the oil law. We will now start negotiations using a draft drawn up in February of 2007. We'll also establish a process to send the national oil law, the revenue sharing law, and the laws concerning the Iraqi National Oil Company and the Oil Ministry in Baghdad to parliament as one package – to be voted up or down.

New oil contracts will be approved based on agreed-upon guidelines. The oil exploration contracts the KRG has already signed won't present a problem, because they were negotiated based on the highest standards of transparency.

There is also progress in settling the status of Kirkuk and other disputed territories. Previous Iraqi regimes expelled Kurds, Turkmen and Christians from Kirkuk, and gerrymandered provincial borders to change its demography. Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution establishes a legal process to remedy this injustice. We are encouraged that the United Nations Special Representative of the Secretary General is helping to develop a proposal regarding the implementation of Article 140.

As we resolve internal issues, we also understand the importance of a peaceful relationship with all our neighbours, based on mutual respect and noninterference in internal affairs.

To that end, we will continue reassuring our neighbours that a federal Iraq is not a threat. But we will also continue to encourage our neighbours to do what they can to stop terrorists from infiltrating Iraq.

We think it is imperative that Middle Eastern states send their diplomatic representatives to Iraq, and for these states to proactively prevent terrorists from slipping across their borders. Unprovoked and recurring bombardment of the Kurdistan Region by Turkey and Iran must stop.

There has also been a historic step forward in KRG-Turkish relations. On May 1, I represented my government in the first high-level, official bilateral meeting with Turkey. Held in Baghdad, the meeting was conducted in a cordial atmosphere, and both sides stressed similar views on a wide range of issues. We reiterated to our Turkish colleagues our commitment to good neighbourly relations, which is underscored by the growing Turkish investment in the Kurdistan Region. Our talks also focused on the need for practical steps and continued dialogue on all outstanding issues, including the problem of the PKK.

We Kurds understand and share America's frustration with the pace of political progress in Iraq. We are doing all we can to create security, stability and prosperity. While progress has not come fast enough, Iraq remains a worthy cause.

As Americans debate the future of the US role in Iraq, allow me to say that America's mission remains vital to the stability and security of our region. A precipitous withdrawal of US forces could be calamitous. We welcome a US presence in the Kurdistan Region as part of any redeployment of forces.

The Kurdish people of Iraq suffered under Saddam Hussein. And we fought and died alongside Americans to liberate our country. There is no ambiguity about the depth of gratitude that Kurds feel for America's sacrifices in Iraq. Americans who have been killed or wounded in Iraq are heroes to me and to all of Iraq's Kurds. We will never forget what you have done for us.

- Mr Barzani is prime minister of the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq.

http://www.krg.org/articles/detail.asp?anr=24289&rnr=&areanr=60&smap=02010000&lngnr=12

-- May 20, 2008 10:19 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Just dropping in for a looksee...

It's interesting that everyone is giving my own expressed thoughts of a bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities before year end another thought. I have been thinking about this for a long time. I still think this bombing is going to happen before Bush leaves office. Probably after the election for the reasons you all have been discussing.

The Iraqi government is showing signs of reconciliation and action... in the security arena with ground forces and in the discussion of elections and oil law. One can only hope and pray Iraqi officials continue in this vein.

The american agreement for military forces is going forward. I agree with Crocker, that America has to stay involved in Iraq. Even if the Iraqi Government manages to restore civilian services, security and get a government to pass the oil law--- the government of Iraq is not going to be able to defend itself. They have no air force to speak of and they are still getting an army and police trained to guard their borders. The USA is going to have to guard their borders through the air for a time and also their sea lanes. You all have already submitted articles on Iran's views on the same.

Keep up the good work. Just wanted to let you all know, I am still around.

Laura Parker

-- May 21, 2008 3:21 AM


mattuk wrote:

By Wisam Mohammed and Aseel Kami

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi troops set up checkpoints and intensified patrols in strategic streets they had taken over in the Baghdad bastion of Moqtada al-Sadr on Wednesday, testing a truce with the Shi'ite cleric's Mehdi Army militia.

Some 10,000 Iraqi soldiers, backed by tanks and U.S. attack helicopters, have been pushing deep into Sadr City since launching an operation on Tuesday to assert government authority on an area until now outside its control.

A truce 10 days ago between Shi'ite factions largely ended weeks of fighting pitting U.S. and Iraqi forces against the Mehdi Army that killed hundreds of people in one of Baghdad's poorest districts.

Under the truce, the Mehdi Army fighters agreed to lay down their weapons and for Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's government to restore its control over the slum.

"The Iraqi army came. Our relations with them are good. There is an understanding between us," said Salman al-Furaiji, the head of Sadr's office in Sadr City, adding that Iraqi soldiers had even held prayers alongside Mehdi Army fighters.

Iraqi security forces have so far met no resistance as they have moved into Sadr City, securing at least three quarters of the sprawling slum, residents and officials from Sadr's political movement say.

It is in sharp contrast to the fierce fighting sparked when Iraqi forces entered Mehdi Army strongholds in the southern oil port of Basra in March. The fighting quickly spread to towns in the south and Sadr City in the capital.

The operation was coordinated with Sadr's movement to avoid bloodshed, but tensions rose when some soldiers tried to go into mosques and used binoculars, which residents said they feared would enable them to peer at women in their houses. Continued...Furaiji said the police had apologized for trying to enter mosques and agreed not to use binoculars.

"Tensions have eased because of this," he said.

TEST FOR TRUCE

Major-General Qassim Moussawi, a spokesman for Iraqi security forces in Baghdad, said the setting up of checkpoints and patrols was to prepare for a new phase of the operation. He declined to comment further, but an army source said it would involve seizing heavy weapons from militiamen.

That is likely to test the truce as the militiamen have refused to hand over their arsenal, which includes rockets, mortars and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.

The source said a joint committee comprising members of Sadr's movement and the ruling Shi'ite alliance -- the two signatories to the truce -- would enter the city to oversee the army operation.

One Mehdi Army leader, Abu Ammar, said his men had received orders from Sadr's head office in the holy city of Najaf to cooperate with the Iraqi forces as far as possible.

"We received orders not to lose our temper even if we witness a violation," he said.

But another militiaman said the Mehdi Army was poised to retaliate for any misbehavior by the army. Continued..."The Iraqi army should be careful, because they are confined inside the city," Abu Yassir said. "If they commit any violation or harm any civilians, we will defeat them: they are in our hands."

(Writing by Tim Cocks; editing by Sami Aboudi)

-- May 21, 2008 12:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Laura, for the post. Appreciate your views and input. Thanks also Mattuk for the interesting article. I am actually on vacation this week, so I am just popping in and out from time to time. I ran across this article this morning and as it concerns Iraq and the perceptions about it, I thought several relevant parts of it worth condensing and then repeating here:

White House Challenges NBC News to Explain Whether Iraq Is in 'Civil War'
Tuesday, May 20, 2008

The White House is calling on NBC News to declare whether the network still believes Iraq is mired in a “civil war,” escalating a fight that began when NBC aired an interview with President Bush that the White House called the product of “deceitful editing.”

That entire imbroglio is rooted in Bush’s remarks to the Israeli Knesset last week, where he criticized politicians who would speak to and offer “the false comfort of appeasement” to rogue nations.

Obama, the Democratic presidential front-runner, took it as a personal slap, since he has stated he would meet with leaders of nations like Iran and Cuba. That set off a weeklong set of recriminations, mostly between Obama and presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain.

Gillespie initially challenged NBC News about the interview with Bush, during which correspondent Richard Engel asked whether the president’s comments in Israel about the “appeasement” of rogue nations were directed at Barack Obama. The interview aired Sunday night on "Nightly News" and Monday morning on "Today."

Gillespie, in the same letter to Capus, blasted NBC for the interview, saying that a critical portion of the interview had been edited out, and “this deceitful editing to further a media-manufactured storyline is utterly misleading and irresponsible.” He asked that the network air Bush’s response in full on the two programs.

In the interview, Engel asked Bush if he was referring to Obama in his speech.

As it appeared on “Nightly News” Sunday and "Today" Monday, Bush’s response was: “You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has … And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you’ve got to take those words seriously.”

The White House said NBC edited out the following words that Bush said between those two sentences. The full discourse went this way:

“You know, my policies haven’t changed, but evidently the political calendar has … People need to read the speech. You didn’t get it exactly right, either. What I said was that we need to take the words of people seriously. And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you’ve got to take those words seriously.”

The White House routinely pushes back against news stories it does not agree with by issuing “Setting The Record Straight” press releases. But the one against NBC News stands out for its angry tone and its accusation that the news division deceptively and deceitfully edited the president’s words.

It also came personally from Gillespie, one of the top figures in the White House and a veteran politico as former head of the Republican Party. And it was featured prominently on the White House Web site.

“I’m sure you don’t want people to conclude that there is really no distinction between the 'news’ as reported on NBC and the 'opinion’ as reported on MSNBC, despite the increasing blurring of those lines,” Gillespie said.

This new flap refers to when the network rattled the White House in November 2006 when it called the conflict in Iraq a “civil war.” On Monday, White House Counselor Ed Gillespie wrote a letter to NBC News President Steve Capus, looking in part for an explanation of how NBC News now views the war.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said Tuesday the administration is “fed up” with the way NBC News is treating the Iraq war.

"I remember very distinctly, how there was a quite the pomp and circumstance when NBC, on The Today Show, decided to declare that they were declaring Iraq was a civil war. But since then, after the surge and things certainly have improved in Iraq, NBC has never had a corresponding ceremony to say that Iraq is not in a civil war. We're just curious to find out what they believe," she said.

Gillespie noted in his letter that “around September of 2007, your network quietly stopped referring to conditions in Iraq as a ‘civil war.’”

In two statements Monday, he asked for clarification.

“Is it still NBC News's carefully deliberated opinion that Iraq is in the midst of a civil war?” he asked in the letter to Capus. “If not, will the network publicly declare that the civil war has ended, or that it was wrong to declare it in the first place?”

In a brief statement later, he said, “We … look forward to hearing their response to our additional concerns about their labeling Iraq as a ‘civil war.’”

So far, NBC News has not responded.

On Tuesday, the White House also asked NBC News to explain why it "disavowed" government data that showed the economy is not in a recession.

"Just another point on this, President Bush is going to continue to state what United States' policy is for the next eight months and certainly during the six months that there's an election going on. If, for example, if tomorrow President Bush says he believes the tax cuts should be made permanent, that doesn't mean he is attacking anybody, he is stating his policy. And we just want to make sure it's really clear that we're not going to allow the president's policies to be drug, dragged into the '08 election unnecessarily and unfairly," Perino said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356753,00.html

-- May 21, 2008 3:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

CBI attributes higher inflation to intl. increase in food prices

The Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) attributed the rise in the basic inflation rate in April 2008 to the unexpected increase in international food prices.

"Basic inflation index in Iraq was remarkably high in April 2008 due to an external shock that is still affecting the Iraqi economy in the light of a sudden increase in international food prices," the bank said in a statement received by Aswat al-Iraq, Voices of Iraq, (VOI).

The rise in the annual basic inflation index reached 16%, according to the statement.

Food is the most important element in the market basket of goods used in calculating the consumer price index (CPI), which measures inflation at the retail level, the statement explained.

The figures announced by the central bank contradicted those revealed in a report by the Iraqi Central Agency for Statistics and Information Technology yesterday, but both figures demonstrated an increase in the basic inflation index in April.

Iraq's inflation rate index rose by 1.8% in April 2008, compared to March 2008, while the annual inflation rate jumped by 5.5% in the period April 2007-April 2008, the central agency said.

A rise in the CPI reflected an increase in the average price of the following consumer goods and services: foodstuffs (13.6%), furniture (0.8%), medical services and medicines (1.3%), and varied goods and services (0.6%), according to a report released by the agency and received by VOI.

Constituting 20.2% of household spending, the report indicated that the prices of cigarettes and beverages; cloth, clothes and footwear; fuel and lightening; and transport cost were higher by 1.4%, 0.2%, 4.9%, and 2.5% respectively.

The report, which is based on field data about the retail prices of goods and services in local markets, revealed a 20.1% decrease in lightening and fuel prices in April 2008, compared to the same month of last year.
(www.dinartrade.com)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq claims to have the largest proven oil reserves on Earth Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Sonia Verma, Sharm el-Sheikh | May 21, 2008
IRAQ sharply lifted the official size of its oil reserves yesterday after new data suggested they could exceed Saudi Arabia's and be the largest in the world.

Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih said new exploration showed his country had the world's largest proven oil reserves, with as many as 350billion barrels.

The figure is triple the country's present proven reserves and exceeds that of Saudi Arabia's estimated 264billion barrels of oil.

Mr Salih said the new estimate was based on recent geological surveys and seismic data compiled by "reputable, international oil companies ... This is a serious figure from credible sources".

The Iraqi Government has yet to pass an oil law to allow foreign companies to invest.

Mr Salih said the delay was damaging Iraq's ability to profit from oil output, robbing the country of potentially huge revenue.

With oil selling for more than $US125 ($130) a barrel and demand rising, Mr Salih was frustrated that Iraq still struggled to establish a regulatory framework.

"There is a real debate in the Government and among political leaders about the type of oil-management structures we should have. I am for liberalising this sector and allowing the private sector to come in to develop these vast resources."

BP, Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Royal Dutch Shell and Total have been queuing for rights to exploit Iraqi reserves.

Mr Salih confirmed Iraq was negotiating the outlines of two-year deals with some companies.

He was optimistic that a draft law could be approved in the near future.

"We need to recognise after so many decades of mismanagement of the oil industry that we need to call a spade a spade," he told a group of delegates at the World Economic Forum in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt.

"We can regulate it, but we need private investment to develop Iraq's production capacities," he said. Iraq was pumping 2.5million barrels of oil a day at present, earning about $US70billion in revenue this year, he said.

The oil price bounced back to record highs yesterday when OPEC refused to increase supply following Saudi Arabia's promise to the US that it would provide an extra 300,000 barrels a day.

In New York, the price of light, sweet crude for June delivery rose from $US125.92 a barrel to $US126.35.

In London, Brent crude for July delivery was up 82 US cents at $US125.81 a barrel.
(http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23731036-15084,00.html)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

BP Submits Iraq Plan, Exxon Expected Next

BP could become the first major oil company to sign a technical support contract with Iraq if a final proposal it submitted to the oil ministry this week wins approval, industry and Iraqi sources told Oil Daily Tuesday.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Combating terror, corruption kept the cabinet busy during the last period – al-Maliki

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Baghdad, 22 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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During the coming stage the Iraqi Cabinet will focus its efforts on building the state's institutions, depending on experience, qualifications, and reinforcing law superiority, Premier Nouri al-Maliki said on Wednesday.

He noted that during the last period, combating terror and corruption kept the cabinet busy.

This came during a meeting on Wednesday that gathered al-Maliki with the director generals and directorates' chiefs of the cabinet's secretariat general.

"Our efforts in the coming stage should concentrate on building the state's institutions, depending on experience and qualification, and reinforcing law superiority, along with the rebuilding efforts and improving services," a release issued by the premier's office and received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI) quoted al-Maliki as saying.

"Combating terror and corruption kept the cabinet busy during the last period, and curbed the process of building the state and its institutions," he said.

"Iraqis, regardless of their ethnic or sectarian backgrounds, were targeted in a process that aimed at confusing the political process and disturbing the country's stability," he added.

"The national agreement was not against anyone, but for the country, people, and law superiority's interest, and we harvested the fruits of combating and facing challenges," he noted.

According to the release, Premier al-Maliki called "to treat the limpness in the state's joints, and to use the national experiences and qualifications, inside and outside Iraq, to participate in Iraq's rebuilding process."

The release mentioned that al-Maliki "stressed the necessity of building the electronic government, regardless of costs, to establish the state on correct modern bases."

The release said that al-Maliki "received a report concerning the secretariat's accomplishments," and that he commented describing the secretariat as "the heart that operates the cabinet's performance."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad predicts blue skies ahead for struggling Inshallah Airways
Forlorn flag-carrier to spend billions on new fleet but could run into turbulence
By Michael Howard

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Baghdad, 22 May 2008 (The Guardian)
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The day wore on, planes landed and took off again, and fretful passengers at Irbil airport began to play a game as they waited and waited for the 45-minute flight south to Baghdad.

"Spot the Iraqi Airways plane. It isn't as easy as it used to be," said Mudhir Mohammed, a businessman, staring at the runway. "I hope it's not that one," said a friend, nodding towards an ageing Boeing 727, where men gathered around the landing gear, shaking their heads.

A harassed-looking woman then appeared in the lounge with bottles of pop and cupcakes. "The plane you see has a technical problem," she said. "Another one will be with you in two hours, inshallah."

The attractive green-and-white livery of Iraqi Airways - once a familiar sight across the Middle East and beyond - has all but vanished. Much of its fleet lies rusting beside runways in Amman, Tehran and Tripoli, to where 15 planes were sent before the 1991 Gulf war.

Decades of war, no-fly zones, sanctions, and mismanagement have taken their toll. The state-owned airline, the oldest in the Middle East, now struggles to meet its modest flight schedule by leasing old planes. And it appears to be taken as read by passengers that whether it flies or not is a caprice of fate.

"Inshallah Airways," said Mudhir as he boarded. "We'll probably get you there eventually." The phrase is available on a T-shirt. Others on the recent flight to Baghdad said the travails of the once-proud flag-carrier mirrored that of their stricken country. "This is a sad symbol of the state of Iraq," said Aqil Jaber, an NGO worker.

Stricken country

But there may be less turbulent times ahead. Iraqi transport officials plan to expand the fleet, add destinations, and spruce up its infrastructure.

Last week, Iraq signed a $5bn (£2.54bn) deal in Baghdad with Boeing and Canadian plane maker Bombardier for 50 new aircraft it hopes will transform the industry. "We are looking at this as a chance to restructure the whole aviation business in Iraq," said Ahmed al-Saadawi, an adviser to the prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, and head of the office overseeing ports and airports. "The deal is a sign that the new Iraq is finally finding its feet."

He said the state monopoly, which included ground-handling, catering, and cargo, would be streamlined and made competitive. Privatisation is an option. Iraqi Airways employs 3,800 staff. The idea is to move surplus staff to other areas of Iraq's transport infrastructure.

Meanwhile, the first part of the order of 10 Bombardier CRJ900 planes is expected this summer, with the rest spread out over 2008 and 2009. Aircrew and maintenance staff are already being trained in Jordan. The first of 40 next-generation Boeing 737's is due in 2012. Boeing has offered advice and expertise.

Middle Eastern markets appear to justify the optimism. Passenger numbers in the region have soared between 2002 and 2007. And though air traffic is still light compared with North America and Europe, it grew at 18% last year.

Nevertheless, airline analysts believe Iraq will not experience an easy return to a market dominated by well-funded carriers such as Emirates.

"Iraqi Airways is going to have to start almost from scratch, and without a proper plan and continuous effort it will be a monstrous task," said David Kaminsky-Morrow, deputy editor of Air Transport Intelligence, an online civil aviation news service. "Until there can be a sense of normalcy in Iraq ... it will struggle to get back to what it was."

Compensation

As with many other parts of the Iraqi economy, the past could haunt the future. As rumours spread of the impending Boeing deal, lawyers for Kuwait Airways made noises that any new aircraft bought by Iraqi Airways face being impounded to settle a $1bn compensation case brought by the Kuwaiti flag-carrier in the English courts after the Iraqi invasion in 1990. Ten planes belonging to the Kuwaiti carrier were taken by Saddam's troops.

Partly to get around this problem, the purchase of the new Boeings and Bombardiers was made by the Iraqi government, not Iraqi Airways. But Mike McCormick, a transport expert at the US embassy in Baghdad, believes the risks have not diminished: "Iraqi Airways is owned by the state, therefore the government of Iraq has liability for its debts." He said the US had been promoting talks between Iraq and Kuwait. "It is vital this issue is put to rest before the arrival of the new aircraft."

Some said it would be simpler to close Iraqi Airways and start anew. Saadawi, demurred. "I hope that a lot of people will say we want to keep Iraqi Airways as a unifying factor, and that we don't want to let it go. But it doesn't mean we can't have other airlines as well."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Do You Feel a Draft?
May 21, 2008
Military.com|by Colin Clark
In an exchange sure to send ripples of anxiety through the all-volunteer military, the Senate's senior defense spending member asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen if it is time to "consider reinstituting the draft."

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), chairman of the Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee, asked Gates and Mullen the question he said no one wants to ask: "Is the cost of maintaining an all-volunteer force becoming unsustainable and, secondly, do we need to consider reinstituting the draft."

Inouye cited the ever-increasing pay and benefits paid to active and reserve service members, noting that it now costs an estimated $126,000 per service member.

Gates and Mullen both said they thought the current volunteer force was the finest the U.S. has ever fielded. Gates said he "personally" believes that "it is worth the cost."

Mullen was not quite as sanguine.

"A future that argues for, or results in, continuous escalation of those costs does not bode well for a military of this size," he said, adding it the rising costs will eventually force the US to shrink the military, spend less on new weapons or to "curtail operations." The question of pay and benefits for the U.S. military "is the top issue we need to come to terms with," Mullen said.

This marks the first time a senior member of Congress has seriously discussed reinstituting the draft in almost two years. Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY), chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, called for reinstituting the draft in November 2006.

Tuesday's discussion occurred during debate over the pending $70 billion emergency supplemental spending bill. Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday that the bill was unlikely to move before Labor Day, requiring a one month extension of war spending.

In related news, Gates was asked by Republican Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi during the appropriations hearing what would happen if the 2009 defense spending bill were not passed, requiring what is known as continuing resolution to provide the Defense Department with money.

Gates, clearly prepared for the question, said the department would face enormous losses should Congress rely on a resolution, losing nearly $8.7 billion dollars for increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps, and see $246 million for the new Africa Command vanish along with $1.8 billion for base closure and realignment. A continuing resolution effectively funds a department at the levels it received the year before.
(www.military.com)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 9:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Iraqi forces find huge weapons cache in Sadr city

Military and Security 5/22/2008 4:31:00 PM



BAGHDAD, May 22 (KUNA) -- A huge weapons cache was found near a hospital in Sadr city east of the capital, said a security source on Thursday.
Official spokesman in the law enforcement plan, Major General Qassem Attah told KUNA that the cache consisted of large amount of explosives, gun ammunitions, and weapons of all types, indicating that the cache was located in Al-Dakell area in Sadr city.
The Iraqi government is conducting several security missions under the banner of the peace (Salam) operation. During the operations, the Iraqi troops were ordered to arrest wanted figures and also confiscate weapons. The operations witnessed intense clashes between Al-Mhadi army militias, military wing of Al-Sadr bloc, and government troops.
Al-Sadr bloc was controlling the Health Ministry before its leader Muqtada Al-Sadr decided to pullout Sadr ministers for cabinet. (end) ahh.gta KUNA 221631 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- May 22, 2008 10:05 AM


Sara wrote:

Worth noting..
Did you know that the Money for Iraq is now tied up with a provision to give amnesty to 1.3 million illegal aliens?

Senate Committee Approves Illegal Alien Amnesty Amendment to Iraq War Funding Bill
JBS
Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Because the House of Representatives unexpectedly delayed the Iraq supplemental spending bill late Thursday, the full Senate won't be allowed today to vote on the amnesty bill that the Senate Appropriations Committee unexpectedly took up and approved Thursday.

It now looks like the full Senate won't be allowed to act on the amnesty measure for around 1.3 million illegal alien agricultural workers (plus their families) until Tuesday at the earliest.

Particularly interesting is the claim by some Senators that we will fail to harvest crops and feed the world this year without an amnesty for illegal aliens. They made the same claim in each of the last four years. Each time that we beat back the amnesty, the harvests still happened! How many times do Feinstein and other alarmists have to cry wolf (or rotting crops) before people stop paying attention?

We beat them last year because the American people focused for a few weeks reminded their Senators that the citizens of this republic are still the boss.

Please do everything you can to enlist a small army in your community to fight this.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/210508Amnesty.htm

-- May 22, 2008 4:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Would you be suprised to hear we are actually WINNING the war in Iraq?
See this clip called, "Media Blackout: Iraq's success not reported"

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/pvVdA2x-Yon522

-- May 22, 2008 5:16 PM


Sara wrote:

Note that:

This new data shows that an aggressive posture against terrorism works, and deflates the argument that fighting terrorism breeds more terrorism.

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Terrorism on the decline and the surge is working: UN
May 22, 2008
Ed Morrissey

Global terrorism has declined over the last several years despite gloomier analyses by think tanks, the UN stated yesterday
( http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2139567720080521?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsevening ), because of the inclusion of data from Iraq. Calling the consensus “misleading”, the elimination of data from Iraq shows a steady decline in attacks and deaths. And when Iraq does get included, the data show that the surge is, well … working,
QUOTE:

A study released on Wednesday reports a decline in fatal attacks of terrorism worldwide and says U.S. think-tank data showing sharp increases were distorted due to the inclusion of killings in Iraq.

“Even if the Iraq ‘terrorism’ data are included, there has still been a substantial decline in the global terrorism toll,” said the 2007 Human Security Brief, an annual report funded by the governments of Canada, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden and Britain.

For example, global terrorism fatalities declined by 40 percent between July and September 2007, driven by a 55 percent decline in the “terrorism” death toll in Iraq after the surge of new U.S. troops and a cease-fire by the Shi’ite militant Mehdi Army, the brief said.

==end quote==

Can we have Congress take a look at this data? Recall that Hillary Clinton responded to this very assertion from General David Petraeus by claiming that she needed a “willing suspension of disbelief” to accept that the surge had succeeded in a significant decline in violence. Instead of calling a serving American commander a liar, perhaps she and the rest of her Democratic colleagues may have done a better job in checking the data.

The UN criticizes other think tanks for their inclusion of data from Iraq but not from other internal conflicts. Terrorism as defined by those including Iraq should also cover areas like Darfur and other militia-led violence in Africa, but these are usually excluded from their analyses. The spokesperson for the project calls this a”US-centric view of terrorism”, but it’s probably more of a biased analytical viewpoint intended on casting Iraq and the US effort against terrorism in a bad light.

This new data shows that an aggressive posture against terrorism works, and deflates the argument that fighting terrorism breeds more terrorism. Allowing terrorists to operate freely encourages these networks to grow, and only by making such efforts a sure way to a quick death can we keep recruits from flocking to training camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. It will take a long time before terrorists get that message, but as we see in Iraq, even radicals don’t want to get used as meat in a sausage machine when they have no chance to prevail.

Comments:

1) maverick muse on May 22, 2008

Ouch. The UN hath spoke. The Democrats will not be pleased with the words of their Master…

2) JohnAGJ on May 22, 2008

Wasn’t Bush making the world less safe?

3) right2bright on May 22, 2008

Hey, whether voting for him or not,
toast the surge and McCain, folks.

With or without the UN,
Thank God for America!

3) Limerick on May 22, 2008

We’ve got 6 more months till the election. Things are getting better in Iraq by the day. Obambi can’t stop sticking his foot in his mouth. Clinton will sway whichever way the polls do, and the polls might be very different in 6 months.

This is going to be hard (impossible) for the hard left to accept. But that will simply hasten their ridicule by the majority in the US that are sane.

Now all we need is for the public to become aware of the huge global warming extortion scam, and the foundation of the dem campaign platform will crumble completely.

I remain optimistic.

4) Bishop on May 22, 2008

I understand your concern completely, Lim. But the situation on the ground is changing rapidly right now and in our favor.

There’s been all this good and positive news dammed up behind the walls of the msm. That dam is starting to crack and leak some of that good news out. Pretty soon the cracks will widen and more of the truth will come out.

There is a reckoning coming for the msm and the tools in leadership positions in our government. Both should’ve been completely discredited a long time ago, and it can’t happen fast enough to suit me.

I’ve been waiting for this for a long long time. Faster please!

5) MarkTheGreat on May 22, 2008

Quote: Democrats prepare to take credit for the Iraq war succeeding in 3….2….1…. - Bishop on May 22, 2008

That is EXACTLY what is about to happen. Thankfully we’ve got their non-stop defeatism recorded forever on the likes of YouTube.

The contrasts will be stark. Can’t wait.

6) Limerick on May 22, 2008

Maybe this is because Obama said he was willing to talk to them.

Sarc/off (Sarcasm off)

7) Tony737 on May 22, 2008 at

The bottom line is that the stern “no negotiation with terrorists and radicals” backed by an attitude of “unconditional surrender” is reducing the worldwide incidence of terrorism. It is declining faster now that we have a policy in Iraq that matches it. But be sure, our winning in Iraq will not cause them to quit fighting. The terrorists will just move to easier targets.

8) techno_barbarian on May 22, 2008

Good point, Tony, and wise to be clear-eyed. I do not expect them to quit. I expect this to be a Long War. But the thing I’m taking away from the facts on the ground is that our counter insurgency tactics and operations work. That those tactics and policies can be duplicated and replicated in other ME populations with the same expectation of success.

The radicals will always be with us and will continually need to be wiped out. This will take a long time, but we are and have been brilliantly adapting and modifying how we combat the threats.

It’s working and that is extremely encouraging news.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/22/terrorism-on-the-decline-and-the-surge-is-working-un/

-- May 22, 2008 7:04 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Senate passes US$165 billion Iraq war funding bill
Thu May 22, 2008
By The Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Senate has passed $165 billion to fund the war in Iraq until President Bush's successor takes over.

The 70-26 vote came just minutes after a majority voted to add tens of billions of dollars for veterans college aid and extending unemployment benefits to the war funding bill.

But Bush has promised to veto the bill if it contains the domestic measures, and the president still has enough Republican support to sustain a veto.

The Senate also voted 63-34 to block a Democratic plan to urge Bush to begin redeployment of combat troops and place other strings on his ability to conduct the war in Iraq.

The House still has to act on the bill. Last week, the House voted to reject money for continuing the war.

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=w052254A

And:

Senate votes for Afghan, Iraq funding
Published: May 22, 2008

WASHINGTON, May 22 (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to provide $165 billion more for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The supplemental appropriation, enough to pay for the wars through the Bush administration and beyond, was paired with a domestic spending bill that includes a 13-week extension of unemployment benefits and an increase in education aid for veterans, The Washington Post reported. All language setting timetables for troop withdrawals or benchmarks for the Iraqi government was removed.

More than half the Republicans in the Senate joined Democrats to vote for the package.

"There's a long way to go in this process, and fortunately it takes two houses of Congress to send a bill to the president," Bush spokeswoman Dana Perino said. "Our position hasn't changed: This is the wrong way to consider domestic spending, and Congress should not go down this path."

The package passed by a veto-proof majority of 75-22.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/05/22/senate_votes_for_afghan_iraq_funding/1804/

-- May 22, 2008 7:46 PM


Sara wrote:

Icahn Says Obama Would Be `Terrible' U.S. President

By Michael McKee

May 22 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire investor Carl Icahn said Barack Obama would be a ``terrible'' U.S. president whose election would bring higher interest rates and a loss of international confidence in the dollar.

``I don't normally get involved in politics, but this time I am,'' Icahn told an investors conference in New York last night. ``I don't think Obama really understands economics.''

``I personally think he would be a terrible president,'' Icahn said. Obama would probably go on a ``huge spending spree'' that ``the country can't afford right now.''

Coupled with the higher tax rates that the Illinois senator has already endorsed, ``you would have a loss of confidence in the dollar,'' leading to accelerating inflation and ``much higher interest rates,'' Icahn said. His comments, and remarks by other presenters at the conference, were embargoed by the organizers until this morning.

Even worse, Icahn said, would be a Democratic president with a veto-proof supermajority of 60 Democrats elected to the Senate.

`Runaway Legislation'

``It would be devastating,'' he said. ``Then you couldn't stop runaway legislation.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aElyzzHkNwCY&refer=home

-- May 22, 2008 8:30 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama moves to undermine the war effort again..
This time with what only APPEARS to be a pro-GI measure:

McCain says Obama's supposed support of GIs is to detriment of long term service and enlistment
McCain, Obama spar on GI bill
May 22, 2008
By LIBBY QUAID

UNION CITY, Calif. (AP) - Republican John McCain said Thursday that Democrat Barack Obama had no right to criticize McCain's position on military scholarships because the Illinois senator did not serve in uniform.

"And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did," the Arizona senator said in a harshly worded statement issued Thursday.

At issue is an expansion of the GI bill that would guarantee full college scholarships for those who serve in the military for three years. The Democratic-led Senate passed the measure, sponsored by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., and supported by Obama, on Thursday by a 75-22 vote as 25 Republicans abandoned President Bush, who opposed it.

McCain opposes the measure, as does the Pentagon, out of concern that providing such a benefit after only three years of service would encourage people to leave the military after completing only one enlistment even as the U.S. fights two wars and is trying to increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps. In particular, McCain said he worries it would reduce the number of noncommissioned officers.

Instead, McCain and Republican colleagues proposed a bill to increase benefits in conjunction with a veteran's length of service. Senate Democrats blocked the measure last week.

"I want to encourage people to stay in the military and make a career of it," McCain said at an airport rally later in the day in Stockton. "And someone who's never served may not understand the absolute, vital importance of the noncommissioned officer.

"I don't need anyone to tell me what veterans need," he added. "I know them."

McCain went on to say, "For a young man with very little experience, he's done very well, so I appreciate that with his very great lack of experience and knowledge of the issues, he's been very successful."

McCain's campaign said Obama was getting personal by suggesting McCain considered the bill too generous to veterans and by raising the issue of partisan posturing.

In his statement, McCain accused Obama of being motivated by politics.

"Perhaps if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue, he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully," McCain said. "But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080523/D90R0KP03.html

-- May 22, 2008 8:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Who makes the next Congress and President affects the Dinar..
so I am noting the race and what affects it.. since it WILL ultimately affect the Dinar and our investment.
Here, a neglected poll shows where the majority of voters are.. closer to McCain than Obama on these issues.

MSM Ignores Poll: 62% of Voters Prefer Fewer Govt. Services with Lower Taxes
By Terry Trippany
May 22, 2008

It seems that the drive-bys in the mainstream media have decided to keep on driving past a Rasmussen poll that contradicts the message of certain left leaning darlings on the presidential campaign trail. Quote, The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 62% of voters would prefer fewer government services with lower taxes. Nearly a third (29%) disagrees and would rather have a bigger government with higher taxes. Ten percent (10%) are not sure.

Whoa, we're not supposed to think like that. No wonder the tax and spend cheerleaders in the MSM passed it by. Nearly all of the results reported in the Rasmussen report contradict liberal group think.

QUOTE:

Not surprisingly, conservative voters like less government while liberal voters favor a bigger government. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of politically moderate voters prefer smaller government. A separate survey found that most adults (56%) are worried that the next president will raise taxes too much.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of voters think American society is generally fair and decent. Twenty-seven percent (27%) think it is unfair and discriminatory. Those numbers have become slightly more positive over the past month.

Three quarters of voters (75%) think people who move to America from other countries should adopt the nation’s culture. Just 13% think they should maintain their home country’s culture.

==end quote==

Worried about higher taxes? American society is fair and decent? Emphasis on American culture? That's not what the media has been shoveling my way via preferred campaign speech snippets and canned left wing messages.

Thus it is no surprise that I didn't hear about this particular Rasmussen Report until someone outside of the MSM went looking for it.

Terry Trippany is the editor and publisher of Webloggin. All emphasis in the quoted sections are mine throughout.

Comments:

1) The poll is biased! by Foolican

Rasmussen is well-known as an extreme conservative pollster; I know that because I heard him on the Sean Hannity show. Everybody I know wants higher taxes! Those who don't are racist.

2) If the people are actually paying attention... by habbyguy

... McCain will win with 62% of the vote. Obama will get 29% and the 10% of undecided dolts will neglect to push the stylus hard enough to dislodge the chad.

McCain's stock went WAY up with me when I learned that he had NEVER created an earmark in his long career. That should be an absolute requirement for electing congresscritters, IMHO.

3) This has always been by mattm

This has always been, basically, the sentiments of the American people, and it's right in line with the GOP platform. So, why do the RINOs continue to run away from it?

4) Well, no surprise - media misses all polls that... by Gary Hall

Well, no surprise here. The media seems to miss most all polls that clearly illustrate that the media is pushing their own agenda; an agenda that does not lie with the majority of "we the people."

We have watched this play out with other recent and ongoing national issues like: SS reform, tax issues, immigration reform, national security issues such as wiretapping of international phone calls, etc.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2008/05/22/msm-ignores-rasmussen-poll-62-voters-prefer-fewer-government-service

-- May 23, 2008 11:25 AM


Sara wrote:

And this report from WND by a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities published online yesterday says that Obama is likely a Communist MOLE, and the calls from within the party to leave Iraq may tie back to the Communist SDS organization. Of course, Russia and the Communists would benefit greatly from the US pulling out of Iraq as well, wouldn't they? Wasn't it Russia who had those lucrative oil contracts with Saddam which were lost when the US went into Iraq? Certainly, this would be a way to get back those oil fields for Russia after a collapse of Iraq's government from a precipitous withdrawl, and so it would be in the Communist's interests financially as well as politically?? Carole has often referred to the Russian connection.. any thoughts, Carole.. board?

===

Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure
Investigations show ties to radicals who shaped him, helped launch his political career
Posted: May 22, 2008
By Jerome R. Corsi

Barack Obama had extensive ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, in Hawaii and Chicago, according to two new reports released yesterday in Washington, D.C., by two experienced internal security investigators.

Investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, presented evidence Obama was mentored, while attending high school in Hawaii, by Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American poet and journalist who was also a CPUSA member.

The authors, in a separate report, document Obama's ties to radicals in Chicago who helped launch his career.

In a paper entitled "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection," the authors document that in 1948, Davis decided to move from Chicago to Honolulu at the suggestion of what they describe as two "secret CPUSA members," actor Paul Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen Union, or ILWU.

In Chicago, Davis had worked for the Chicago Star newspaper; in Honolulu, he was hired as a reporter for the Honolulu Record, both identified by Kincaid and Romerstein as "communist front newspapers."

In his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," Obama discusses the influence a mentor identified in the book only as "Frank" had on his intellectual development.

Obama described Frank as a drinking companion of his grandfather, who had boasted of his association with African-American authors Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during the time Frank was a journalist in Chicago.

Romerstein, in addition to having served as investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, served in the same capacity with the House Committee on Internal Security and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was the head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the U.S. Information Agency. Romerstein is also co-author of the influential book "The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America's Traitors," which included extensive documentation of the communist activities of Roosevelt administration staffer Alger Hiss.

Kincaid is the founder and president of America's Survival Inc., an independent watchdog group that monitors the U.N. and international terrorism. He is also editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report.

Are you a member of the Communist Party?

Kincaid and Romerstein quote Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979

A transcript of a 1956 hearing before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee discovered by internal security affairs researcher and writer Max Friedman showed Davis took the Fifth Amendment when asked by the subcommittee if he was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party.

In the second report, "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection," Kincaid and Romerstein present evidence supporting their contention the SDS organization from which the Weather Underground organization and radicals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn came, received financial contributions from the CPUSA, which in turn receive its funding from Moscow.

Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.

Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986.

"There has been no explanation of why Ayers et al. played a role in launching Obama's political career," Kincaid wrote.

Kincaid and Romerstein present documentation that Tom Hayden, another major figure in the SDS, is today one of four principal initiators of the "Progressives for Obama" movement, which calls for ending the war in Iraq "as quickly as possible, not in five years."

According to Kincaid and Romerstein, U.S. Peace Council executive committee member Frank Chapman "blew the whistle on communist support for Obama's presidential bid and his real agenda" in a letter to the People's Weekly World after Obama's win in the Iowa Democratic Party caucuses.

"Obama's victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle," Chapman wrote. "Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

Kincaid and Romerstein wrote, "The clear implication of Chapman's letter is that Obama himself, or some of his Marxist supporters, are acting like moles in the political process. The suggestion is that something is being hidden from the public."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

-- May 23, 2008 11:48 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Hi, how is everyone? Hi Sara, Rob N, Carole, (a real spark plug! hope all is well) Roger, Laura Parker, britishknight, mattuk, and there used to be an interesting guy on this site, who worked in Iraq, and liked Thailand, and had some heart trouble at one point, I believe, but I'm sorry I forgot your name, and anyone I missed. (can someone help me with that last name?) I've been starting a new business for the past year, and it's starting to get sane again, and better managed, so I have a bit of extra time now, and can drop by now and then. I haven't kept up that much on the news, other than occasional MSM-BS, and started dropping by here again, to have a look, recently. My liberal brother was going on the other day about how badly the war was going. I suspected, as an intuitive feeling, that that was nonsense, but I couldn't say why. So I thought about it, and then it occured to me that, little as I watch the news and TV, once I watched the news again, after turning it off for a year, that a sharp and abrupt shift in news pattern has occured within the last year. I'm sure you have all sensed it: Anyone can see the number of daily occurances reported on MSM, about roadside bombing, daily reports of casualties, etc, has fallen drastically from a couple of years ago. Which is a very odd thing, if America really is losing the war, which I severely doubt. If bad things were happening, the media would jump on it, like a hungry dog, on a bowl of food. As the saying goes, in the news business, "if it bleeds, it leads" Since the number of lead stories "about the bleed", have slowed down, I naturally assumed America was probably well on it's way to victory, although the MSM wasn't telling me that. It's like in the Sherlocke Holmes movie, The Hounds of the Baskervilles, where Sherlocke asks Dr. Watson if he heard the hounds baying, on the moors, last night? Watson replies no. Exactly, remarks Holmes. Sometimes the most important thing, is the thing we notice, we notice that is not occuring. The sound of a dog, not barking, can be more important, than the sound of a dog barking. I mentioned this to my brother, an anti-Bush liberal who likes detective stories, but naturally he couldn't see the sense in that, and muttered something about Bush, and other words four letter words, I won't repeat.

Then, I came back to this site, and linked to a Fox New blog, a couple days ago, which interviewed Michael Yon, who says America is winning in Iraq. I'll buy his book.

The interview got me thinking, trying to find out which way the wind is blowing, in Iraq, and the American election, which I occasionally follow. Here's my two cents:

Likely Democratic nominee Obama says he would remove American troops from Iraq, but no sooner than a year and a half, after taking office. Author Michael Yon, author of "Moment of Truth in Iraq", who has spent years in Iraq, says we are winning the war in Iraq, and have been winning since the beginning of the year. So, if Obama wins, he will have a huge military victory handed to him, on a silver platter, thanks to President Bush, and the brave soldiers of the American and Iraqi Armies. At that point, Obama could lie through his teeth, and claim it was his brilliant leadership that "turned things around" in Iraq. The Mainstream Media would go along with that lie. Since Obama said he wouldn't take the troops out for a year and a half after he takes office, and since we're winning already, we will have completely won by the time Obama has said he will withdraw American troops, which is more than two years from now. At that point, if it takes a few more months, for total victory, the press will give him some slack, since it will be clear to everyone by then that we have won, since the MSM can't lie forever about what's happening in Iraq. Obama could claim he won the war, and is necessary to keep a few troops in Iraq a bit longer, to help the Iraqi government, and finish "cleaning up Bush's mess". Substantial number of American troops could stay long term, in Iraq, Obama could claim to be a great military leader, and peacemaker, and then, as the oil starts to flow, the revenue from the Iraqi oil fields, now claimed to be the largest in the world, could produce enormous revenue streams that would help the American economy. The economy would boom, and the deficit would be paid down, thanks to President Bush's victory. At that point, President Obama could claim to be a financial genius, as well as military genius, while the gullible, lying MSM plays along, and Obama is pumped up by the media as the best thing to happen since FDR. I think Obama is the best political spinner I have ever seen. So, with all the positive political advantage of riding President Bush's coat-tails, Obama would be re-elected for a second term, with the troops still in Iraq, and the oil money flowing, like the Mississippi River in springtime.

Or, John McCain could win, and the oil and money would still flow.

Either way, I think I should take some advice Rob N gave a year or two back, and buy some more Iraqi dinar, before it's too late.

In the meantime, here' a bet, for anyone interested:

If Obama gets elected, ten bucks says he would take credit for President Bush's victory. Any takers on the bet?

-- May 23, 2008 12:45 PM


Sara wrote:

Welcome back, Tim! :)

Very nice to hear from you. Glad to hear you have a minute or two to pop back in on us again and that it will be more often now, thanks! We missed your input. The gentleman whose name you could not remember is panhandler. I think he is deployed and will not be posting to us again until he gets back home.

I appreciated your views about Iraq and I am glad you found Michael Yon's video enlightening. He is a beacon of light amidst the darkness and I agree with you about silence proving a lot of winning is going on in Iraq which is not being reported. I also agree with you that Obama would claim credit for all the good President Bush has done.. IF he were to get the Whitehouse. But I truly do not believe he will be elected to office, in spite of how it looks right now. That is partly because, as people come to know and understand exactly who Obama is and his associations, his views and his lack of experience penetrate the American mindset, they will not choose such an inexperienced and questionable young person to helm the country during a time of war. Remember, this is Obama's own words about what he would do with the defence of the United States:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

This video (posted by a Democrat) is highly relevant to Obama's aspiration to reach the Whitehouse, because today China and Russia just reached a nuclear cooperation pact.. and they are taking the EXACT same position Obama is in this youtube video. Obama and the Chinese/Russians condemn America for her defence policies. When your enemies and a Presidential hopeful hold the same point of view, what does that say about such a hopeful?
QUOTE:

China and Russia sign nuclear cooperation deal, condemn US missile defense plan
5/23/2008

(RTTNews) - Friday, China and Russia signed a $1 billion nuclear cooperation deal and issued a joint statement condemning the proposed U.S. missile defense shield along Eastern European border. The deal came during Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's two-day visit to China.

Under the nuclear agreement, which strengthens Russia's role as a supplier to China's fast-growing nuclear power industry, Russia will provide technical assistance in building a nuclear fuel enrichment plant costing $500 million. It will also supply semi-enriched uranium worth at least $500 million to China for the next 10 years, the Itar Tass news agency reported.

A joint statement, signed by Medvedev and Chinese President Hu Jintao, said a U.S. plan to create and deploy a global missile defense system "does not help to maintain strategic balance and stability or strengthen international efforts to control nonproliferation."

Medvedev said America's move will harm disarmament efforts.

The leaders also raised their objection to any new arms race in space.

http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=614158

Of course, the position of America is that it is not proliferating nuclear weapons for America to have a DEFENSE system in place. It poses no threat, except to someone who wishes to deploy nuclear weapons toward the United States or her allies. And who would that be likely to be.. her enemies.. like Russia and China, perhaps? Do we truly believe this nuclear cooperation between Russia and China is without the buildup of nuclear armaments, as well as merely fuel?

Unilaterally disarming the cops-of-the-world (America) - as Obama wishes to do - will not make these robbers less proliferous in their moves toward increasing their nuclear arms, as this treaty for "nuclear cooperation and supply" shows.. it will hand over control of the world to them. And it is a nastier world when the robbers rather than the cops rule the world - just ask anyone living in those countries which country they would rather live in - perhaps starting with one of those who lost their only child in the quake in China, because right now many of them are expressing the anger they have toward the Chinese government's intrusive law called the one-child policy - ask them and see which nation they would prefer to be living in, and under which government. Who do the American people want running the world, the cops.. or the robbers? Those who tell you (right down to how many children you can have) what to do - or those who allow you Constitutional freedom?

The unfortunate and nasty truth in the world of megapolitics is - they who have the biggest guns rule the world - not the nice guy who wants to unilaterally disarm and unilaterally negotiate with unrepentant enemies set on America's destruction. As Newsbusted comedy joked today concerning the head of Iran, "he referred to Israel as a stinking corpse that faces complete annihilation. Upon hearing this Barak Obama promised to negotiate a compromise with Iran to wipe out only half of Israel."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkXge4MKhQ

Sara.

-- May 23, 2008 3:35 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Hi Tim Bitts,

Long time since we all heard from you last. Great to hear from you. On your question of the guy from Iraq that liked Thailand, that is Panhandler and he is still in Balad, Iraq. Last I heard, he is helping with the OPS flights that go out at night for security sweeps.

In the political front, I think you are right on what the elections are shaping up to be. I am no taker on your beat, as I am sure you are right-- what Obama would do if he were elected.

Michael Yon is a great person to be reading right now. I have read his book, "Moment of Truth In Iraq" and it is good reading. We are influencing the hearts and minds of normal Iraqi people each day. Yon, who has been with combat troops says the situation is getting better but could go bad if we don't reach the hearts and minds of Iraq's people.

-- Iran is definately a factor in selling weapons to Sadr's group and anyone else who wants to buy them inside of Iraq.

-- Al-Qaeda is still a small force to be reckoned with in Mosul.

--According to Yon, Mosul is a city filled with criminal gangs, corruption, tribal peoples and al-Qaeda inflitrating their large city to get away from American forces.

I think you would enjoy Michael Yon's book, "Moment of Truth In Iraq".

--Another book that I think you would enjoy is "Dead Heat" by Joel Rosenberg. Maybe, enjoy is a strong word. I did not enjoy his prediction of the USA being being targeted by nuclear missiles, but it was sure something to think about. That is what the title is about "Dead Heat". Everyone unfortunated enough to be in a city where a nuclear missile hit is certainly dead and the city left in a mire of heat.

Both of these readings that I have recently read, leaves one with alot of thought about the United States current foreign policy and also, our economic internal policies. Makes one wonder, if we will be around in the end days at the rate we are going.

Tim, it's been nice to hear from you.

Laura Parker

-- May 23, 2008 4:05 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Tim:

Allow me to join in the chorus and express my own welcome back to you. I still am very bullish on the Iraqi Dinar and have increased my position since the last time you visited.

Currently we are still waiting for the passage of the HCL. After what I read today may be in doubt. Some PMs in parliment want Iranian and Saudi sign off on the HCL. If those PMs are able to block the HCL from passage, it may be some time before we see the production sharing agreements needed to monetize Iraqi oil (petro dinars).

Again, welcome back and look forward to reading more of your posts.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 23, 2008 4:23 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kerbala awards IQD 14bn contract to pump underground water

Kerbala governorate has awarded an IQD 14 billion contract to a local company for the execution of the Razzaza Water Project to remove underground water reserves for use agricultural and residential use.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 23, 2008 4:28 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Anyone heard from Turtle?

Laura Parker

-- May 23, 2008 4:42 PM


Sara wrote:

As I said, as people learn more about Obama and his character and views.. they will gravitate toward McCain:

As Obama heads to Florida, Jews there have their doubts
Barack Obama is courting Jewish voters in South Florida this week. Shirley Weitz, in Boynton Beach, Florida, says local people do not like "his attitude toward Israel."
By Jodi Kantor
Published: May 22,

2008BOYNTON BEACH, Florida: At the Aberdeen Golf and Country Club on Sunday, the fountains were burbling, the man-made lakes were shining, and Shirley Weitz and Ruth Grossman were debating why Jews in this gated neighborhood of airy retirement homes feel so much trepidation about Senator Barack Obama.

"The people here, liberal people, will not vote for Obama because of his attitude towards Israel," Weitz, 83, said, lingering over brunch.

"They're going to vote for McCain," she said.

Grossman, 80, agreed with her friend's conclusion, but not her reasoning.

"They'll pick on the minister thing, they'll pick on the wife, but the major issue is color," she said, quietly fingering a coffee cup.

Jews are important to his general election hopes, particularly in New York, which he expects to win; in California and New Jersey, which he must keep out of Republican hands; and, most crucially, here in Florida, where Jews make up around 5 percent of voters.

This is the most haunted state on the electoral college map for Democrats, the one they lost by hundreds of votes and a Supreme Court decision in 2000, and again in 2004.

"The fate of the world for the next four years," mused Rabbi Ruvi New as his Sunday morning Kabbalah & Coffee class dispersed in East Boca Raton.

"It's all going to boil down to a few old Jews in Century Village," he added, referring to a nearby retirement community.

In recent presidential elections, Jews have drifted somewhat to the right. Because Obama is relatively new on the national stage, his résumé of Senate votes in support of Israel is short, as is his list of high-profile visits to synagogues and delis.

The resistance toward Obama appears to be rooted in something more than factual misperception; even those with an accurate understanding of Obama share the hesitations. In dozens of interviews, South Florida Jews questioned his commitment to Israel — even some who knew he earns high marks from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which lobbies the United States government on behalf of Israel.

"You watch George Bush for a day, and you know where he stands," said Rabbi Jonathan Berkun of the Aventura Turnberry Jewish Center.

Many here suspect Obama of being too cozy with Palestinians, while others accuse him of having Muslim ties, even though they know that his father was born Muslim and became an atheist, and that Obama embraced Christianity as a young man. In Judaism, religion is a fixed identity across generations.

"His father was a Muslim and you can't take that out of him," said Chotiner, 51, who said she would still vote for Obama, out of Democratic loyalty. "Do I have very strong reservations? Yes, I do," she said.

Several interviewees said they had reservations about Obama's stated willingness to negotiate with Iran — whose nuclear ambitions and Holocaust-denying president trigger even starker fears among Jews than intifada uprisings and suicide bombings.

American Jews are by no means uniformly opposed to negotiations with Iran, the leaders of several Jewish groups said, but there is no consensus, and everyone fears that the wrong choice could lead to calamity.

Israelis fear Iran "could be the first suicide nation, a nation that would destroy itself to destroy the Jewish nation," Dershowitz said.

Some voters even see parallels between Obama's foreign policy positions and his choice of pastor — in both cases, a tendency to venture too close to questionable characters.

"The fundamentals of meeting with Iran are the same as the fundamentals of meeting with Rev. Wright," said Joe Limansky, 69, of Boca Raton.

Other voters called Obama's endorsement by the Rev. Jesse Jackson problematic, because Jackson once called New York "Hymietown" (even though he later apologized) and has made other comments offensive to Jews.

Some of the resistance to Obama's candidacy seems just as rooted in anxiety about race as in anxiety about Israel. At brunch in Boynton Beach, Bob Welstein, who said he was in his 80s, said so bluntly. "Am I semi-racist? Yes," he said.

Decades earlier, on the west side of Chicago, his mother was mugged and beaten by a black assailant, he said. It was "a beautiful Jewish neighborhood" — until black residents moved in, he said.

Jews, who have long considered themselves less racially prejudiced than other Americans, have been especially wounded by black anti-Semitism, she said, which may help explain why so many Florida voters were incensed about Obama's membership in a church whose magazine gave an award to Farrakhan.

Jack Stern, 85, sitting alone at an outdoor café in Aventura on Sunday, said he was no racist. When he was liberated from a concentration camp in 1945, black American soldiers were kinder than white ones, handing out food to the emaciated Jews, he said.

Years later, after he opened a bakery in New York, "I got disgusted, because they killed Jews," he said, citing neighborhood crimes committed by African-Americans. "I shouldn't say it, but it is what it is," said Stern, who vowed not to vote for Obama.

Senator Lieberman is expected to spend plenty of time in front of Jewish audiences, in Florida and elsewhere. A Democrat turned independent, an Orthodox Jew and one of McCain's closest friends, Lieberman will promote McCain's strong national security résumé and centrist stances.

Until now, Obama's efforts to win over Jewish voters have been low-profile. He made a speech to Aipac, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, shortly after declaring his candidacy, but for months afterward, he concentrated his energies on Iowa and New Hampshire, not exactly hotbeds of Judaic life. Even as the primaries in New York, New Jersey and California approached, Obama left most of his outreach to intermediaries who met with small groups of community leaders.

Aides say Obama will spend as much time in South Florida as possible in the coming months. His aides believe that the negative rumors floating around about him are mere "noise," as one put it, and have had little impact.

His aides also expressed confidence that when Obama officially becomes the nominee, the Democratic Party, including its many prominent Jews, will put their full force behind his efforts in Florida.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/22/america/22jewish.php

-- May 23, 2008 5:11 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I eluded to an article today regarding the passage of the HCL dependent upon agreement with Iran and Saudi Arabia. After reading it, your thoughts are welcomed.
__________________________________________________________

Here is the text ran through the google translator: The Chairman of the Umma Party and deputy example of al-Iraqi, "the law of oil and gas ratified by parliament before approval in the case of Iran and Saudi Arabia him." وأوضح الآلوسي في تصريح صحفي اليوم الجمعة أن "إيران والسعودية ترفضان تطوير قطاع النفط العراقي، لأنه يعني زيادة الطاقة التصديرية للعراق بشكل يضمن عودته كقوة رئيسة بالمنطقة". He told al press today, Friday, that "Iran and Saudi Arabia refused to develop the Iraqi oil sector, because it means increasing the export capacity of Iraq to make sure his return as President of the region." وأضاف الآلوسي أن "الكثير من النواب العراقيين لديهم ارتباطات مع السعودية ومع إيران، وهم يمثلون أجندة الدولتين، ولهذا فإن القانون لن يمرر من دون موافقتهما" على حد تعبيره. He added that al-"many of the Iraqi parliament have links with Saudi Arabia, Iran, however, they represent the agenda of the two countries, so the bill would pass without their consent" as he put it. وأتهم رئيس حزب الأمة العراقية بعض النواب العراقيين بالوقوف وراء عمليات تهريب النفط "لصالح عدد من الدول الإقليمية خلال السنوات الأربعة الماضية، مستغلين نظام المحاصصة الطائفية الذي يغطي على هذه العمليات". He accused the President of the Iraqi Nation Party MPs standing behind the Iraqi oil smuggling operations "in the interest of a number of regional countries over the past four years, exploiting the sectarian system of quotas covering these operations." وأشار الآلوسي إلى أن "قانون النفط والغاز لن يمرر في البرلمان "إلا بصفقة سياسية بين الكتل السياسية، تكون على حساب الشعب العراقي ومصالحه الاقتصادية". He pointed out that al "law of oil and gas will not pass in parliament," not political deal between the political blocs, be at the expense of the Iraqi people and economic interests. "

(my comments)If the HCL (Feb 2007 version) is subject to be hijacked in the Iraqi parliment because of allegiances to both Iran and Saudi Arabia by some PMs it may be a while before we see its passage and the monetization of their oil. No monetization equals no petro-dinar. The New Iraqi Dinar will remain undervalued and the CBI's policy of a managed rate will continue for the foreseeable future.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 23, 2008 5:31 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - I did find it extraordinary that the Iraqis would say that two other sovereign nations would DICTATE whether their HCL legislation would pass or not. I therefore found your interpretation somewhat puzzling and honed in on this sentence,
QUOTE:

He added that al-"many of the Iraqi parliament have links with Saudi Arabia, Iran, however, they represent the agenda of the two countries, so the bill would pass without their consent" as he put it.

That says to me that even though many have links to Saudi Arabia and Iran, they represent the agenda of those countries, not the sovereign interests of Iraq, "SO THE BILL WOULD PASS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT". This says to me that they would DEARLY love the support of those two nations, because they are neighbors and also suppliers of the world with oil - so their support and help to Iraq would be greatly appreciated, however, the Iraqis will go it alone if they have to in order to do what they feel is right and in the interests of the country of Iraq. This makes rational sense to me.

What is your response to the viewpoint I have taken from the article itself?

Sara.
PS I am not sure where turtle went to, Laura.. again, I thought that he would write when he is home from Iraq, but not while serving there.

-- May 23, 2008 5:43 PM


Sara wrote:

I thought I would try to embed this Vets For Freedom ad:

-- May 23, 2008 6:15 PM


Sara wrote:

It was from Hotair and can be found here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/23/vets-for-freedom-obama-will-go-to-iran-but-not-iraq/

Sorry it didn't work.
It says:
Vets for Freedom has a new ad out that attacks Barack Obama for his policies on Iraq and Iran. The video features Sgt. Garrett Anderson, a wounded Iraq War veteran from the Illinois National Guard, speaking about his attempts to meet with Obama earlier this year. Anderson says that Obama couldn’t make time for a veteran from his home state, but apparently wants to make time for enemies of the US

(ad)

Sara.

-- May 23, 2008 6:20 PM


Sara wrote:

150 gunmen surrender under amnesty deal in Iraq

(RTTNews) - Responding to an amnesty deal offered by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri-al-Maliki, 150 gunmen in the northern Salahaddin province surrendered to the local authorities on Friday.

The DPA news agency quoted security sources as saying that the gunmen surrendered their arms in the presence of representatives of the U.S., Iraqi authority in the province and heads of the local clans.

Under the amnesty deal that aims to reduce violence in the Northern Province, U.S. forces and local authorities will pardon those who took arms against the troops, provided "they don't have Iraqi blood on their hands."

If it is found later that the surrendered gunmen have caused the death of any civilian or member of the Iraqi forces, they will be subjected to trial," the report said.

More gunmen will be surrendering to the authorities, according to the security source.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080523\ACQRTT200805231524RTTRADERUSEQUITY_0649.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=150%20gunmen%20surrender%20under%20amnesty%20deal%20in%20Iraq

-- May 23, 2008 6:52 PM


Sara wrote:

Well, I think I have found at least ONE very BIG reason why the RV has not happened.

Here is what IRAN is doing, and saying.. stalling forward progress in Iraq/International relations.
Certainly IRAN is proving itself to be a big stall in moving the country of Iraq forward.. tinkering in the business of sovereign Iraq for its own political agenda, and using inflammatory and empty statements about IRAQ losing Iraqi sovereignty.. to make certain IRAN secures the country of Iraq for their religious viewpoint and financial benefit (oil).
Quote:

Signing security pact with US in Iraq would be betraying Islam - Ayatollah Khatami
Tehran, May 23, IRNA
Iran-Prayers-Khatami

Substitute Friday Prayers Leader of Tehran in his second sermon referred to the efforts made by Washington to sign an "imposed" security pact with Iraq, arguing that signing such a pact would equal betraying Islam, the Iraqi nation, and Shi'a World.

Ayatollah Seyyed Ahmad Khatami added, "If such a pact would be signed and put to effect the Iraqi nation would be belittled and taken captive by the United States for good, but thanks to the strong opposition on the part of grand Islamic Alims, elites, scientists, and some Iraqi statesmen, it has not been signed yet."

According to an IRNA Political Desk reporter, the member of Leadership Experts Assembly referring to one of the articles of the above mentioned pact, said, "According to this article the Iraqi Government would not be entitled to the right to put to trial the US soldiers, which means restoration of Capitulation right for Americans."

Ayatollah Khatami reiterated, "The range of that article is so wide that it would include the US companies, individuals, persons and countries that are US allies, too, while in accordance with another article of this so-called security pact, the United States would enjoy the right to supervise over the affairs of the Iraqi defense, interior, and information ministries for a ten-year period." He reiterated, "Preparing and approving of this pact would equal final eternal slavery of a whole nation, that would be far worse than the reign of Saddam's regime, but I do not suppose any noble Iraqi citizen would yield to such slavery.

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0805231392170318.htm

I think he doth protest too much... because he has his own country's interest at heart, and not the interests of Iraq, or Islam.

I pray this strong opposition to what is ultimately in the best interests of Iraq would be removed. It isn't a betrayal of Islam at all.. it is just not in the Iranian's best interests to have a sovereign Iraq whose security does not rest on bending on their knees to the Iranians for peace. Being secure from Tehran - whom they fought in bloody battle and over 1 million died in that recent war - would mean they would have an EQUAL position to that which Iran now enjoys. Having the lion of America on their side against any nefarious plots to use new nuclear arms against Iraq to destabilize it even more (as they now supply the insurgents with conventional weaponry), would indeed cramp the Iranian's style.. as they have their sights on the oil of Iraq which they thirstily need and a desire to grow their own religious views and influence upon the Iraqi people.

The Iranians have indeed lobbied many to their side using fear of the US (who set up a representative democracy, not a dictatorship - and which is continuing to hand over more and more power to the Iraqis as they can take that control and hold it) and his inflammatory words of being "taken captive for good" and "belittled".. are baseless.

The basis of these inflammatory comments are that the Iraqis could not unilaterally take a US soldier, try, convict and hang him (as they hung Saddam) according to THEIR laws, which the Iraqis have said will take into account Islamic law, whereas the soldier has sworn under the US Constitution to uphold US law. So where those two versions of law conflict, there could be a mismanagement in the eyes of America in an accusation against our own. Those serving under that agreement (the US Constitution as holding supreme to their conscience) would wish a trial acknowledging that, not one which disagrees with that and enforces Islamic sensibilities instead.

Again, religious differences are being protected by the US asking their forces not to be subject under the Iraqi Sharia rules, not criminal ones. Undoubtedly, to the Ayatollah Khatami, there is no distinction in his mind since his mindset allows no other viewpoint to be expressed or held except Islamic law, and he believes that all law must be brought into submission to their own religious view of Sharia law. As an example, if the US were to allow this, Iraq COULD in the future pass acceptable Islamic dress codes and then take females serving in Iraq, try them for not wearing the agreed upon Islamic dress codes, then hang them for it. Many MANY other examples come to mind, too numerous to recount.. where the two diverge. (That was one of the least controversial.)

Iraq will have enough troubles reconciling their version of a Constitution with Islamic law (they have promised to uphold or take into account BOTH), and the US and those serving in support positions in Iraq do not need that ambiguity in law hanging over their heads as they work to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure - hence the perfectly reasonable request for exemption.

The US is not lawless, as numerous convictions of those who have been accused have shown after reasonable trial. To deny this request of the United States is to say that the laws of the US under its mandate of the Constitution is lawlessness.. a position only IRAN would take since it does not acknowledge any other laws but Sharia. Iraq should not submit to this or it is placing itself UNDER the same laws as Iran - with religious laws as supreme. The separation of Church and State must remain in law and in effect over all US/coalition/helping forces, and the Iraqis have yet to deal with this issue, but at this stage the US cannot back down or it will be conceding too much power over US forces and support people, who could then be charged with "violations".

Not to mention when political pressures or disagreements enter in - as such disagreements happen from time to time between sovereign powers, which could complicate such dealings. It could be used as an act of extortion in time, with money paid, such as the scenerio given above. Consider the scenerio given, but think of it as having the laws passed but where women are allowed to dress in Western clothes (though on the books not so according to Iraqi law).. until a political disagreement came up. Then these ladies could be seized and used as political pawns (because it is in law and now they will enforce it). Such extortion can happen and the US cannot give in to the potential for this to happen at this stage of negotiation.

As a matter of principle, the US cannot concede this point, not because they do not wish criminals to be prosecuted, but because they cannot allow the rule of law which does not separate church and state to trump the rule of law which does separate the two. The US has understood the need to not have clergy rulership.. and if Iraq eventually does not understand and uphold that distinction but submits its freedom under the rulership of the clergy, the US must be able to protect its people from what we believe is a misuse of law to enforce religious belief.

It is obvious why IRAN objects so vehemently and says this will change things for GOOD.. (they object because they want the rule of clergy and their religious laws, not freedom to act according to conscience or beliefs which disagree with Sharia restrictions). But Iraqis should not agree with Iran's viewpoint because to separate the rule of law from clergy rule would be for the Iraqi's permanent GOOD.. for Iraqi's freedom from clergy rulership such as is practiced currently in IRAN. Iran, by lobbying these people who are so soon removed from being under incredible oppression and dicatatorship, is seeking to lead them back under the same kind of tyrannical rule instead of into freedom of determination and ability to choose by free conscience personal choices such as dress and personal relationships (ie honor killings for marrying or associating outside of the tribal customs or religious sect, etc.).

Sara.

-- May 23, 2008 9:39 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

I can't but help but wondering how the cost of gas will affect the American election, in the fall. Most experts are saying gas will only go higher. Canada's top economists are predicting oil to hit $200 a barrel, in a year or two. Already, as everyone knows, we are seeing record high gas prices. Now, gas prices are very much a bread and butter issue with most Americans, because more people drive more miles, in the US, than any other country. From memory, I recall that America uses about 25% of the world's oil supply, but has around 5% of the global population. Most Americans can put two and two together, even if they are not that interested in global economics. The fact is, America uses an awful lot of oil. And a very healthy chunk of that supply comes from the middle east. Even Jimmy Carter, the most dovish president in recent history, has publically stated that America must guard and guarantee continuing supply of oil, to America, from the middle east. On energy, Carter was no fool. He knew how dependent America was, on foreign oil

So, Ma and Pa voter are trying to decide how to cast their votes this fall. They know that gas has gone up a lot recently. They feel it, everyday, in their wallets, and on their monthly credit card bill. And they know, in a vague sort of way, because they haven't given it much thought, that oil and gas are somehow related, in part at least, to the war, in Iraq. They are hardworking, good hearted people who follow politics, casually. They don't really like war, and wonder if it is necessary. Occasionally they see something in the news about terrorism, and worry about it. From past casual observation of the news, they know the same middle eastern countries that produce terrorists, produce oil that America is so dependent on, so at least in an intuitive sense, they understand that terrorism, and the price of gas at the pump, and global energy supply, and this election, and the war in Iraq are somehow interlinked and interdependent. Rightly so, this worries them. They aren't fools, and they know things can go wrong in their own lives, or in the broader world.

A recent trend I've noticed, on the Tube, which most voters will notice, is that a lot of energy companies are producing ads about the future of energy. All this creates worry and doubt, in the mind of the consumer. So they wonder, rightly so, how secure America's energy future really is.

So, what do they do? Do they trust a new guy or gal? He and She say they are going to put in new enegy policies, to lessen dependence on foreign oil, and at the same time, withdraw from securing the place that is currently, and for the forseeable future, the source of a great deal of America's energy supply.

They wonder about this. It sounds like the Democrats are in favour of jepordizing the supply of gas and oil, which is already high enough. They wonder, what would go wrong, if, by ending a war, and terrorist states like Iran end up controlling even more of the world's energy supply.

So, anyway, I'm sure you see my point. If enough information is out there, about America's dependency on oil, the vulnerability of supply, the negative consequences of withdrawal from Iraq, in placing in jeapordy, the world's oil supply, well if enough of this information is out there, in media land, in bits and pieces, and is being supplied, not as election propaganda, but as facts, well then, people can draw their own conclusions.

Conclusions like leaving Iraq would endanger the world's oil supply, the American economy, and the price they pay at the pump, every day, for gas. And that John MaCain is the safer choice, because he is guaranteeing to protect America's energy sources, and thus America's economy, and the price Ma and Pa pay at the pump.

If there's one thing most people talk about, and complain about, it's the price of gas. It's right up there, with talking about the weather. The job of Republicans, in the next election, in order to win, should partly to be to discuss a lot of these issues related to energy supply, and how they fit together, and ultimately affect the consumer, namely the voters, all the way to the gas pump.

Pocket book issues, like the price of gas, interest everyone. I was sickened the other day, watching on TV, some oil executives being grilled by members of congress, and effectively being blamed for the high price of gas, which is ridiculous. This issue could help the Republicans, or hurt them very badly, depending on how it's handled. There has to be an argument, and a case made, based on truth, that the high price of gas has to do with supply problems, and that a military withdrawal from Iraq would jepordize the supply of oil and gas. And that the best thing for America to do, to secure their immediate energy future, is to work diligently, in respectful and equal and fair partnership, with the Iraq government, to stabilize that country, both as a democratic ally in the war on terror, but also as what is now believed to be the world's largest supply of oil and gas.

Naturally, the Democrats will try to spin the reality about what is happening in oil and gas, to blame big business, like they did with the oil executives before congress, a few days ago. Or they will blame President Bush, for the high price of oil, which would be the biggest lie of the election. Or they will try to oversimply a very complex war, and say, "aha, it really was about getting oil, you greedy ba#@$rds"

So, it's up to the Republicans to take the lead, in the conversation, on oil and gas, to shape the discussion around truth and sound economics, and not targetting businessmen, or blaming President Bush for the rising price of energy.

Republicans have to handle this issue well, or they will lose the election, in my opinion. The number on issue right now is the economy. The point where this impacts most Americans is every week, when they fill up, at the pump. Every day, Americans worry about high gas prices. I don't think that will change, between now and November. Rising energy costs are already affecting the American economy, in a negative way. It's up to the Republicans to show they know what they are doing, on this issue. It's up to them to make a reasonable case for staying in Iraq. And John MaCain is just the man to do it, if he gets good advice.

-- May 24, 2008 12:22 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and Rob N.,

Rob N., I tend to agree with Sara's interpretation on the article you cite about Saudia Arabia and Iran. I do not believe that Iraq needs the approval of any nation to decide their own national interest concerning the oil law. I believe Sara has the right interpretation on that article.

Sara's comments on the interest of Saudia Arabia and Iran are politically counter to the interests of Iraq. Iran does not want a strong Iraq on it's boarder. Iran wants an Islamic State subject to it's Islamic laws. It certainly does not want an allegiance with the USA.

Saudia Arabia and Iran also do not want oil to come out of Iraq due to the economic consequences that this would have to both nations. As Iraq produces more oil to the world scene, I believe this new production may drive oil prices down. This is counter-productive to the goals of these two countries who want a higher price for their oil. It would therefore be in the oil carte interest to get Iraq to join OPEC to help them control the price of oil from Iraq. It should be interesting to see how this develops in the future.

Tim Bitts and All,

Tim, Icouldn't agree with you more on your comments about the price of oil. Republicans are going to have to make a case for the price of oil and how supply/demand (economics) affects the price.

However, one of my pet peas is fiscal responsibility of the government accounting office. Our government is wasteful in spending tax payer money. There are some fundalmental problems facing our nation that have to be addressed by our do nothing house and senate representatives.

John McCann has said he will cut out all ear marks in federal bills for congress and the house. I certainly hope so.

-Social Security is about 43 Trillion dollars in the red. This issue has to be addressed and congress/house has to be responsible in treating this fund as a trust and stop raiding this fund. Money in the trillon of dollars has to spent on this project or it is going to go belly up---hurting alot of elderly and disabled persons.

-Funding for bridges and flood walls (Civil engineering) has to be addressed.

-Agriculture funding has to be more responsibly addressed. We are currently paying farmers not to plant crops at a time when record food prices are occuring due to lack of food production. The government could save money on this project. More funding to FDA has to be enacted by house/senate to secure the USA food supply. This could be a possible source to divert funds to this process.

-An energy policy in this country has to be addressed. I understand Brazil has gotten completely off of petroleum dependence. We need to study how they did it and start some way of getting this country to be energy independent. I say this for economic reasons, as well as knowing that what we pay for energy goes into the pockets of people who want to support terrorism.

-Immigration policies have to be addressed. Included in these items is border security and port security from ships coming into USA harbors. Also, water and air security from nuclear threats need to be addressed. Ships/cargo ships just inside of USA borders need to be inspected for nuclear missiles security issues and this is not being done at this time.

-FDA needs to be enlarged in funding to protect our citizens from bad products from other countries and this needs to be a joint venture with national security as products left uninspected could be harmful to the public.

These are just some of the issues (not to be seen as all inclusive) that need to be addressed. And, I have not even addressed funding for Iraq war and war on terrorism to be included with our military.

However, even in the area of the military, our government accounting office cannot account for funds and equipment given to Iraq. This is fiscal irresponsibility and accountability needs to be tighten to rule out corruption of USA funds.

My point is the USA needs to have a tight fiscal spending policy for absolutely necessary spending. And, we need to remember the poor in our country. The ones who do not have the necessary money resources to afford the extra costs of food, clothing, energy costs. Those of us who have monetary means need to look out for our neighbors (This may or may not be government help--but help from private citizens). I believe the USA is going to go through fiscal hard times. I also believe the USA has brought alot of the economic hardship on ourselves because of lack of fiscal responsibility of our representatives. Even now, they talk of $5000/for each child in a savings account. A 60's musuem for woodstock in New York. An expensive site for ground zero. And, I am sure many of you can name others.

I am hopeful that McCain can do something to reel in the fiscal irresponsibility of this past administration and of our representatives or the USA will be in really bad bind economically and spiritually. The USA will be faced with the same problems of Russia and fall out of Super Power Status-- if we have not done so already. China maybe number one at this time. They are number one in military numbers of persons in their military personnel. USA is second and Iraq, believe it or not is number 3 according to a CNN. Hopefully, their reporting is correct.

Let me know what you think about my thoughts.

Laura Parker

What is troubling to me is the lastest news of the allegiance of Russia and China on nuclear fuel (supposely for nuclear power plants) but that no one in the intelligence community believes. If any of you have read "Dead Heat" by Joel Rosenberg, it is very simpliar to his thoughts of a new world order. I noticed that one of the press microphone's had "One World Order" on it for their news service. It would seem that this is another factor that could lead to nuclear war as these two countries support Iran and North Korea with the U.N.

-- May 24, 2008 5:21 AM


Valerio wrote:

Don't you think our government has known that gas would go to $4 a gal? They have known for many years. It's a matter of analyzing increasing demand against supply. I laid it out on this board a long time ago, and speculated what it would be like to spend $200 or more to fill up. Well it's now costing me #120, and may go to $150 before it gets better. We knew this was where oil was headed, and this is where Iraq came in. Had we not made this war, we would have eventually paid $8 or $9 per gallon in the US, and certainly this would collapse our economy. We can handle $5 temporarily, with resulting recession, but we would have full blown depression at $9 a gal. Opec was not interested in increasing supply, they're very happy to collect all our wealth by naming their price while conserving their precious reserves. We've been at war with this for years in the political arena, now we have positioned ourselves to win it. They're not giving up without fighting to the last breath, because this was their chance to take down the great American empire. Not with weapons, but economically. Then we couldn't fund a strong military, while they could. Your very naive if you think this war is not about oil, and how it relates to the economic strategies of kingdoms in this era. There are plenty of oppressed people we could help. There are plently of places that can harbor terrorist activities, and they will once we've ran them out of Iraq. You see it don't matter who actually owns the Iraqi oil, as long as it gets pumped out and to the market in huge amounts. This will drive down the cost, and require the others to open their taps as well further driving down the price. This strengthens our economy, and weakens the OPEC nations ecomonies. If this works, we will see gas under $2 a gal. again, and times will be good for the oil importers. It will take time, but the lessons learned about reducing usage, along with greater supplies and cheaper oil, will finance the move toward new energy technologies that will be neccessary to lead the future. The wrong leadership in government at this particular point in time could mean the begining of the end for the great American empire.

-- May 24, 2008 6:41 AM


Carole wrote:

just peaking in.....OH MY GOSH! TIM BITTS IS BACK!

Hi Tim!
How are you. Back in time to give your remarkable perspectives on this insane political arena.

Laura,
I so very much agree with your concepts. New World Order, established durng the Lenin days, is well under way, and advancing everday.
No stopping it now!

Mc Cain, has toasted himself, and does so with every COPD breath that he takes. The Republican Party has dealt mainstream Americans a dirty blow!

I go for the Rush Limbaugh line of thinking. That is let the Democrats take this country for 4 years. Otherwise, Republicans will take the rap for the terrible things that are happening and going to happen this next 4 years, blamming it on Republican Presidency, when in fact it will be the Democratic Cngress, and the "caving in" by Mc Cain to their devious and dangerous strategies.

Short of a middle class revolution, praying for our nations sustained viablity and endurance should be on everyone's agenda.

Mc Cain is the Benedict Arnold of our time....mark my words. Yep, Obama will be our next Pres. Will drive our economy to disaster, will appoint Judical imperialists that will shove us right into a world court jurisdiction and continue to destroy democracy in this country as never seen before. I agree with you, Valerio, the fall of our empire is at hand.......and ...we the people, have LET IT HAPPEN!

This process started 50 years ago, subtly, but now has picked up momentum, and now at full speed.

May God have mercy on us! And forgive us for the moral,social and economic chaos...we, the people, have allowed to permeate our nation.

Democracy, gone awry, creates anarchy, which leads to tyranny!

Carole

-- May 24, 2008 9:16 AM


Carole wrote:

Tim,

Republicans do need to do what you prescribe........but Mc Cain IS NOT a Republican! That is the problem! Soooooooo, we need to get to 2012 to have any hope of survival! DO you think this country can sustain for the next 4 years? Need a miracle!

Carole

-- May 24, 2008 9:27 AM


Carole wrote:

Laura,

In my opinion, Joel Rosenberg, is one of the brightest minds on the planet! He is in tune with Limbaugh, O'Reily and Hannity. However they lack the biblical truths and perspectives to be able to tie it all together as Joel does.
That is why Rush, Bill, and Sean, (and the likes of them)are so vividly perplexed, frustrated and angry.

Have you noticed?

carole

-- May 24, 2008 9:37 AM


Sara wrote:

This is so obvious to us, but I thought the point should be made.. for clarity's sake.
Briefly:
Quote:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

This is the rule that must be established by Iraq concerning its Constitution in order to part the free exercise of religion from its imposition on those who do not believe in that exact way. The US Constitution, in trying to allow free exercise of religion, would allow for Islamic dress codes to be adhered to so long as it is done peacefully and without intent to kill (hiding suicide bombs under the burka). But the idea is that religion can be followed without IMPOSING it upon others.. free exercise without imposition of religious interpretations on others who do not believe that way. Also, while honor killings are prohibited, if members of a sect abstain from contact with others by choice (to keep pure from "unbelievers") that is their privilege, so long as it is not imposed upon others so they have no choice. Free exercise of religion is always accomodated, as far as the state can.. without the imposition of religious convictions on others who do not so believe.

Similarly, in Christianity and some Mormonist sect beliefs, some sect's women by conviction wear dresses as the proper attire of women, while others say women may wear jeans or pants (you may have noticed the Mormon sect in the news, whose women wear dresses, not jeans). And some sects also choose to have their people live apart (also like the sect in the news), and so long as no immediate harm or violation of criminal law is there against the people or outsiders, they are allowed to practice their beliefs. This is what Iraq needs, not clergy rule on these debatable interpretation points. The Burka is not a part of the Islamic religion, it is adhered to only by a small group who thinks that way. That is why most of the country does not wear it, but are still Islamic. Also, freedom of association can be allowed or restricted by a sect's beliefs, but it is not right to impose it on the masses by law, or even their own members who reach the age of majority and no longer wish to believe and adhere to it (this is seen with the Amish who allow their young to choose the sect or leave it at the age of majority). That is why I said it is not against the religion of Islam itself, but against the state's imposition of religious customs where the clergy (acting in the role of the state) would IMPOSE customs derived from individual religious convictions and interpretations on others that it the issue here in which version of law will stand. The law must be, for freedom's sake: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Sara.

PS
OK, I will give it a rest.. but it is affecting Iraq's forward progress AND the RV of the Dinar, because the clergy in IRAN are not comfortable with the curbing of clergy rule and the emergence of a state which is not joined to the edicts of the clergy as law.. hence their opposition to Iraq's forward progress in these areas.. (their opposition to the RV, and opposition to Iraq's security agreement with "unbelievers" BOTH of which are in the interests of Iraq's security, stability and prosperity, but not the clergy's rule/influence). The opposition can even be seen to have reached the point of religious armed opposition by Sadr's sect. The rule of law, not religious sect interpretation, has to prevail for Iraq to remain free from false imposition of religious sect thinking, and yet allow religion to be adhered to by those who so wish. These acts of progress forward for the state of Iraq and its security and economic stability will not harm Islam - only remove radical terrorists from imposing their religious sectarian views on the populace by force.

-- May 24, 2008 10:10 AM


Sara wrote:

timbitts - Good points. :) I like very much the strategy you mentioned for the GOP to emphasize pocketbook issues - the price at the pump - and how a pullout from Iraq could affect the bottom line of what the US populace (mom and pop) pays at the pump. Great point. :)

Laura - You said John McCain should reel in fiscal responsibility. If anyone can do so, he can. As one poster's comment I posted says:

McCain's stock went WAY up with me when I learned that he had NEVER created an earmark in his long career.

That could make a HUGE difference in the way people see him and his stance on fiscal issues - The responsible choice instead of the "tax and spend" and fiscally irresponsible policies of the Left.

As for Russia/China's support of Iran/N. Korea, and their one BILLION dollar nuclear deal they just announced - it is disturbing and the US cannot take their eyes off the ball because nuclear war is a closer threat now than at any other point in history - particularly with the Middle East countries starting to get into the act and proliferating nuclear "fuel" (weapons) in response to Iran's rush to "nuclear fuel" (weapons). It is going to take the statesmanship of McCain - a man with some background and wisdom who isn't going to make foreign policy decisions then backtrack on them like Obama did with his talk about meeting Iran without precondition, HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIlhTVyZfYY

This is no time to put a newbie into the oval office when nuclear war is such a great danger and Iran could be the first suicide-bomber nation in history.

Valerio - I appreciate your comments and am digesting your quotes of, "Had we not made this war, we would have eventually paid $8 or $9 per gallon in the US, and certainly this would collapse our economy. We can handle $5 temporarily, with resulting recession, but we would have full blown depression at $9 a gal. Then we couldn't fund a strong military, while they could."

I would not say that oil was totally UNIMPORTANT in the decision to go into Iraq, but the idea that the US was planning it all along and was motivated to go into Iraq exclusively for the purpose of getting their oil is... debatable, to say the least. (Some conspiracy theorists even go so far as to say President Bush planned going into Iraq "for their oil" even before he was ever elected!) Again, I put GOD in the driver's seat of history. It was HIM who knew your statistics and moved through circumstances to force the US to take actions which have turned out for her good (and Iraq's). It wasn't planned by men (from before President Bush took office), but planned and carefully executed by GOD - His moving the circumstances to be the way they were by His Sovereign ability (911 was quite a large motivating factor God used). People may see the PLAN when they look backward in history, they just attribute it to the wrong source (man, instead of God). If it seems too coincidental to happen by chance.. it is. The funny thing is, though, they don't think there is a planner whose plans are happening IN SPITE of man - whereas I do see His hand in these historic events which have revealed His plan. Though I totally agree with you that, quote, "The wrong leadership in government at this particular point in time could mean the begining of the end for the great American empire."

It is unheard of that such a newbie with so little experience could even be considered for the office of President!

Carole - I vehemently disagree with you and Rush about letting the Dems run the nation for the next four years. If the Democrats were to get into power, there would NOT be another four beyond them for many, many American people. Millions of Americans will be allowed to live under McCain which will not live if Obama is elected. The choice is life and death for many, many American lives. It is not something to become disillusioned and complacent about so as not to fight the good fight of faith. Many lives - AMERICAN lives - hang in the balance on this one.

I also disagree with you that McCain will lose this election, he will win it and it is because God is merciful and has not forsaken His people. God is not finished with America yet. He is a God of miracles and He has a plan for the country which HE will accomplish, and it does not include handing the country over to someone who is so green he doesn't know how many states are in the United States of America.

Sara.

-- May 24, 2008 11:14 AM


Sara wrote:

Valerio - Remember when speaking of God, we are speaking of ..

Eph 1:11... Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will:

He works ALL THINGS after the counsel of His own will.. including wars, elections, events, circumstances, etc.
He causes the outcome of everything to be.. as He intended it to be.
If, God forbid, Obama were to get in.. it would prove God's judgement on America, as even Carole (and Rush) predicted great calamity in that case.
But God is willing to show mercy to us and will not allow Obama the Presidency.
McCain is not perfect, but definitely he is better than the alternative (a merciful choice by Him).

Sara.

-- May 24, 2008 1:56 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq says Qaeda cleared from main northern city
Agence France-Presse

BAGHDAD - A 10-day drive by Iraqi troops has dismantled Al-Qaeda's network in Iraq's northern city of Mosul regarded by the US as the jihadists' last urban bastion, the interior ministry said on Saturday.

"Operation Mother of Two Springs has enabled us to dismantle and weaken the Al-Qaeda network in Nineveh province," spokesman Abdel Karim Khalaf told AFP.

A total of 1,480 people have been detained since the operation began on May 14, Khalaf added.

US Ambassador Ryan Crocker said Iraqi troops had displayed leadership in the Mosul operation and the Al-Qaeda network was close to being completely defeated.

Speaking to reporters during a visit to the Shiite holy city of Najaf in central Iraq on Saturday, Crocker said Iraqi security forces in the past six months had shown they were up to the job of dealing with insurgents.

"I am not saying Al-Qaeda is defeated but they have never been so close to being defeated," Crocker said. "Iraqi forces are leading in Basra, Mosul and Sadr City."

Pointing to the security provided for his Saturday's visits to the holy cities of Najaf and Karbala, Crocker said he was impressed with the deployment of the local security forces.

"Iraqi forces are now protecting foreign visitors," he said in Najaf.

Few clashes have been reported during the Iraqi-led and US backed operations in Mosul and surrounding areas of Nineveh province.

The US military has provided support for the operation in Mosul but it has been conducted and led by Iraqi troops.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=119400

-- May 24, 2008 2:16 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

You are dissolutioned about Mc Cain. Even if he were a true conservative, which he is anything but...... IT is CONGRESS That is going to shut down the war. And if Mc Cain gets presidency?.......you think they were peeved at Bush winning....just wait! The difference is they have all the Power and will muscle Mc Cain( who has proven he is a weasle...and too left for most conservatives)to succumb to their demands, WHICH he has already signaled he has "high regard and respect for...."names of people that make you and I vomit!

He doesn't reach across party lines....he jumps back and forth across them. Several years ago, I sort of profiled him, and I come up with the same conclusions......he is a mental case! Extremely unstable tempermament. Similar to that of a bipolar disorder. I think they have "schooled " him for this campaign. Have you ever noticed how soft spoken he becomes at times, stiffed faced and with obvious almost expressive aphasic communication. I beleive he exerts alot of energy constraining himself.

I say....doomsday for the US is near...let it be a democratic party legacy.

Remember how Bush got the rap for Osama and Saddam....when it was the Clinton years that led to 911 etc etc?

I realize that you think too much is at stake...and that is because you have too much faith in who Mc Cain say he is....BUT IS NOT!

Our only hope for the survival of our nation is some miracle that takes place in the next 6 months.......Mc Cain needs to go away ( by death or default), REV. Wright needs to spill his guts about the real roots of Obama, and God needs to ressurrect a leader who can take on and deal with all of our domestic urgencies and mal-functions as well as address and bring back our world power status on the planet.

That is the tall and the short of it all......any other hope is sheer dissolusionment!

I continually ask myself...why did we go to such great lenghts to become a world power....developing nuclear power, military and intelligence might, technological dynasties, etc. etc.?

So that some tiny third world countries, with evil,demented leaders could bring us to our knees? So that internally we would succumb to the social and moral chaos as an everyday way of life?

We have become too civilized so that the middle class conservative has lost the gumption and concept of revolutionistic mentality. It is what started and grew and Maintained our democracy and freedom. Without that option on the table, we have lost all capability of resistance to the politcal, social, economic and moral predators, who want to destroy us.

The sounds of Kruschev's voice and pounding of his hands on the table claiming..."we will bury you without a single shot..." ring loud in my mind.

Wise, dumb, or indifferent.....it doesn't matter...we are all in for the ride of our lives!

Hang On!

Carole

-- May 24, 2008 9:02 PM


NEIL wrote:

Bless you Carole:

You seem to have an incredible understanding of what is going on in this country. I am a staunch Republican but I find John McCain repugnant insofar as his views on Guantanimo closing, amnesty for illegal immigrants, no enhanced interrogation, no drilling anywhere for oil, paying soldiers $40,000.00 to enlist.

Many say that our venture into Iraq was for oil. I would like for someone to make a connection to oil. We are paying many times the going rate for gas in Iraq while using the gas to fight for the Iraqi's. I do not see that we are getting any benefit from Iraqi oil.

The U.S. economy is in dire straits with familys no longer able to refi their homes and get the inflation profit and with their credit cards almost tapped out, many families are on the verge of bankruptsy. The national debt has gone from 5 tril to 9 tril in the past eight years, and with China holding some 3 trillion of our dollars and other countries holding the remainder of the 9 trillion dollar debt, we are approaching a day of reconing and it will be a sad day.

Republicans do not deserve to get credit for the bad things that are going to happen during the ensueing 4 years so I say let Obama and the Democrats give it their best shot.

-- May 24, 2008 11:24 PM


Sara wrote:

What a shame, Carole and Neil.. that all you care about is who gets the blame when something goes wrong... rather than the lives of Americans. I guess we differ in our viewpoints. McCain may indeed preside over a terrorist attack on US soil.. but he would be a far better person to do so than the inexperienced and error-prone youngster Obama. Obama is so wet-behind-the-ears that his errors and inexperienced judgements would cost many lives. If all you care is who gets the blame, your care for America is very shallow. We are at war... and this person will be the Commander-in-Chief. What he determines will decide the fate of many lives - particularly if there is a terrorist crisis of a large magnitude and/or war becomes necessary with Iran. You want the young puppy named Obama at the helm in such a scenerio? The country is not a political party. Did you think of those who suffered and died on 911 as Americans.. or Republicans and Democrats? God help us all.. we all bleed the same color, and both GOP and Democrats will do so in very great numbers if America chooses wrong. The casualties will be lessened (minimized) if America chooses someone who can lead in a time of war and while under attack.. who alone fits that bill? Certainly not Obama.

Do you really forget.. and think things have changed?
Think they have forgotten? Changed their minds?
Or are they working in the dark until President Bush leaves office?
Remember this post: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133545
QUOTE:

In April of 2007 MI5's London Headquarters' Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre said they were hearing chatter about a planned "large-scale" terrorist attack "with the help of Iran" against the West. Quote, "The report says there is “no indication” this attack would specifically target Britain."

That made me wonder..
A commenter's statement below piqued my interest when he said, My suspicion is that they will wait for Bush to be out of office too.
It fits with the patiently-waiting-and-weaving-carpets scenerio the Iranian spokesman spoke about.

===

Leaked Report: Al Qaeda Planning Hiroshima
From the UK’s Sunday Times: Al-Qaeda ‘planning big British attack’
April 22, 2007
Dipesh Gadher

AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Spy chiefs warn that one operative had said he was planning an attack on “a par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki” in an attempt to “shake the Roman throne”, a reference to the West.

The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.

The report was compiled by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) - based at MI5’s London headquarters - and provides a quarterly review of the international terror threat to Britain. The report: “Recent reporting has described AQI’s Kurdish network in Iran planning what we believe may be a large-scale attack against a western target.

“A member of this network is reportedly involved in an operation which he believes requires AQ Core authorisation. He claims the operation will be on ‘a par with Hiroshima and Naga-saki’ and will ‘shake the Roman throne’. We assess that this operation is most likely to be a large-scale, mass casualty attack against the West.

The report says there is “no indication” this attack would specifically target Britain, “although we are aware that AQI . . . networks are active in the UK”.

===

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Monday, April 23rd, 2007.

Comments:

1) wardmama4

Of course the eurowhinnies don’t want to take this seriously - they just might have to admit that there are bad muslims in the World (not to mention europastan itself). . .

And the morning after they will all call on the despised USofA to help ‘em fight back (i.e. lead the War).

It’s coming - until someone has the backbone and guts to stand up the the imam’s puppet Ahmadinejad and slaps Iran back to the 3rd century that they want the entire world to live in.

Funny how all the islamic righteous use computers, media, cell phones and nuclear weapons and of course American dollars while screeding on how despot and vile the West is. No wonder the libs/dems love ‘em - they are both such amoral hypocrites. Who are going to destroy the World if not stopped.

2) Old Grouch

They spout this stuff often enough without doing anything so the West gets indifferent. “Flying Imams”, Target checkout clerks, etc. They want us to dismiss them as harmless. And drop our guard.

3) pigpaws

My suspicion is that they will wait for Bush to be out of office too.

4) sheehanjihad

If in fact Britain was nuked.. in the event of a nuclear terrorist attack on England, to me, that means that we cant be far behind, and as a matter of fact, I cant believe we arent getting it first…it is so much easier to get a weapon into this country, and set it up unhindered, and set it off without being discovered because there is a PC law against stopping terrorists from doing all three!

Stop them at the border…go to jail like our Border Patrol agents. Deny them a place to live or welfare payments…go to jail like most city managers are fighting to stay out of because they passed laws to keep illegals at bay…point out to anyone that muslim men in a building are acting suspicious, go to jail for a hate crime and profiling….yup, the muzzies have it made here! I think the england thing is a ruse, so they can set it off in a large metropolitain area in this country, and laugh with pelosi and reid for getting it done.

5) Old Grouch

As for nuking us, piece of cake: buy or build one, put it in a cargo ship and sail into NY harbor. Then detonate, long before any inspection. No good way to detect at other than very short range, some lead foil makes that even harder. Or maybe the cargo bay of a charter 747. Gonna happen shortly after they get one. (they have said as much)

6) Phil Byler

Sadly, we are going to be dealing with a nuclear adversary at some point, and they will use the bomb. We could avoid the fate, but it would take people throwing the Democrats out of power now. When the terrible days happen, the left wing Democrats must be driven from public life with unending curses.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/leaked-intel-report-al-qaeda-planning-hiroshima

===end quote===

And just in case we didn't hear it loud enough, this expert opinion says, "Mutually assured destruction is not a deterrent to Ahmadinejad, but an inducement.” in the following article.. well worth the read:

Islamic Historian Warns West Of Global Jihad
From Israel’s Arutz Sheva:
Experts Warn of Global Jihad at Herzliya Conference
Monday, January 22, 2007

Two Islam experts warned participants at the Herzliya Conference on Monday that global jihad is on the rise — and should be taken seriously.

Islamic expert and historian Bernard Lewis spoke back-to-back with former CIA director James Woolsey at the Herzliya Conference Monday, sounding the alarm on the global Jihad and dismissing the concept of a Palestinian state.

“In the self-perception of the Muslim world, their primary identity is to deliver Islam to the world – to not keep it selflessly to themselves but to give it to mankind,” explained Lewis, adding that the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979 signified the first major victory in the global Islamic push toward that goal.

“There are competing leaders to take this fight ahead,” he said. “The Sunni Wahabi cause is represented by bin Laden. Another is the Shi’ite version, which began with the first Iranian revolution, and the second Iranian revolution, taking place at this moment. The whole Arab and Muslim world is experiencing the second stage of the Islamic revolution in Iran.

“I have been told by Iranian friends that Ahmadinejad is indeed crazy, but not stupid,” Lewis warned. “He really believes in the end of days that he is heralding. There is a widespread belief among Shi’ites that that time has come. Mutually assured destruction is not a deterrent to Ahmadinejad, but an inducement.”

James Woolsey, former director of the United States Central Intelligence Agency, addressed the conference next. Unlike many of the speakers, Woolsey, a guest of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs had arrived the previous day and attended nearly all of the conference’s sessions.

Woolsey summarized several opinions that were expressed, lauding UN sanctions, negotiations and the state of the world. “I do not represent a majority view – but on all of these points I beg to differ,” he said.

Woolsey proceeded to lament the fate of Europe, which he sees as already having been compromised in what he calls World War IV – the third having been the Cold War. “I wish we had a partnership with Europe, but I am afraid it is deteriorating,” he explained. “Europe is accommodating Sharia (Islamic law) and becoming increasingly affected by the Muslim demographics in their countries.”

Woolsey said he sees no distinction between the Islamic onslaught in Israel, Iraq or elsewhere. He compared the war against Islamism with that against Nazism and Communism.

As a former director of the world’s largest intelligence agency, Woolsey dismissed claims by Iran and its apologists that the Islamic Republic seeks nuclear capability for peaceful means.

“With its huge oil and natural gas reserves, Iran is not the least bit interested in nuclear power,” he said. “And negotiation with a movement that defines itself by its goal of the destruction of Israel and the United States is like trying to persuade Hitler to give up anti-Semitism.”

Woolsey displayed in-depth knowledge of the various theological movements and streams vying for the soul of the Islamic world. “The Ujutiya – end of time – movement represents a major part of Iranian politics today,” he warned. “If we look at it like a chess game, the nuclear bomb is the queen.”

Woolsey, like Lewis, warned that the Iranian Shi’ite sect is not the only threat posed by Islam.

“In 1979, with the seizure of the great mosque in Mecca and the rise to power of a Shi’ite theocracy in Iran, a rise in Wahabi-ism took place as well. This was funded largely by the increase in the price of oil. Today, little boys are taught to want to be suicide bombers both in Pakistani madrassas and in the West Bank with Wahabi oil money.”

Woolsey said that those warning against Islam’s push to establish Islamic law across the globe are accused of being Islamophobic. “We are not Islamaphobes,” he said, “but we are theocraphobic."

“We, Jews, Christian and others are inheritors of the rule of law,” he said. “Democracy without the rule of law is a mob and capitalism without democracy is theft. Jefferson said, and it is printed on his memorial: ‘I have sworn on the altar of Almighty G-d eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.’ ”

Asked what role he saw the media playing in the current global plight, Woolsey had harsh criticism for most journalists’ inability to classify religious believers as anything but crazy.

“The media on the whole and certainly in the US is not interested in ideology and does not take it seriously. They tend to think anybody who is religiously motivated about his views is crazy – whether religious Christians, Muslims or Jews. And that is a problem, because you can be absolutely crazy about your objectives and extremely shrewd about your implementation. I think our media on the whole is very ostrich-like on this issue.” …

==end of quote==

This is real news insofar as Bernard Lewis is considered by most people to be the foremost historian of Islam in the world.

Some of his books:

* The Origins of Ismailism (1940)
* The Arabs in History (1950)
* The Emergence of Modern Turkey (1961)
* Istanbul and the Civilizations of the Ottoman Empire (1963)
* The Assassins: A Radical Sect in Islam (1967)
* The Cambridge History of Islam (2 vols. 1970, revised 4 vols. 1978, editor with Peter Malcolm Holt and Ann K.S. Lambton)
* Islam: From the Prophet Muhammad to the capture of Constantinople (1974, editor)
* Race and Color in Islam (1979)
* Christians and Jews in the Ottoman Empire: The Functioning of a Plural Society (1982, editor with Benjamin Braude)
* The Muslim Discovery of Europe (1982)
* The Jews of Islam (1984)
* Semites and Anti-Semites (1986)
* History — Remembered, Recovered, Invented (1987)
* Islam from the Prophet Muhammad to the Capture of Constantinople (1987)
* The Political Language of Islam (1988)
* Race and Slavery in the Middle East: an Historical Enquiry (1990)
* Islam and the West (1993)
* Islam in History (1993)
* The Shaping of the Modern Middle East (1994)
* Cultures in Conflict (1994)
* The Middle East: A Brief History of the Last 2,000 Years (1995)
* The Future of the Middle East (1997)
* The Multiple Identities of the Middle East (1998)
* A Middle East Mosaic: Fragments of Life, Letters and History (2000)
* Music of a Distant Drum: Classical Arabic, Persian, Turkish, and Hebrew Poems (2001)
* The Muslim Discovery of Europe (2001)
* What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East (2002)
* The Crisis of Islam: Holy War and Unholy Terror (2003)
* From Babel to Dragomans: Interpreting the Middle East (2004)

When Mr. Lewis warns about a global jihad, the world should listen.

And of course Mr. Woolsey is no slouch either.

Related Articles:

Official Says "Iran Will Slap America Ten Times"
Iran To Conduct Another Round Of Missile Tests
Iran Site: The Mahdi Could Appear This Spring
National Academy Of Science: Iran Needs Nukes
Ahmadinejad: Jews Will One Day Be Wiped Out
Terrorist Grandmother Blows Herself Up In Gaza
Muslim "Feminists" Want To End Islam Myths
Iran Fires Cluster Warhead Missiles In War Games
Ahmadinejad Admits Special Connection To God
4,000 Foreign Terrorists Have Been Killed In Iraq
The Left: No Terrorism In Middle East But Ours
What The Terrorists Want - Their Own Words (II)
Muslim Miss UK: Stereotyping Causes Terrorism

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Monday, January 22nd, 2007.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/reknowned-islam-historian-warns-west-of-global-jihad

-- January 30, 2008 11:32 AM ∞

-- May 25, 2008 1:18 AM


Carole wrote:

Hi Neil
good to hear from you.

Sara,
Mc Cain, Obama,Clinton the queen of Sheeba.........none have what it takes to keep this country safe.

Congress would have shut down thus war had it not been for Condi asnd Bush doing their own redition of terror on Congressmen.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, short of a miracle is going to change what the next 4 years will bring. No matter who wins.

Do you remember many months ago, when I made the observation that Mc Cain was getting more endorsements from democrats than republicans?
He was practically out of the race and it seemed to be a moot point....but not so anymore.

It is important that those who cause disaster,be known. IF we come out even somewhat viable in the next 4 years....we will see revival on all points in all areas in this country.

One other point... if you think that thi country is still under the blessings and protection of God then you do not understand His holy perfection. We deserve and ARE going to feel His perfect hand of judgement......and if not so....then He owes Soddom and Gammorah (spelling?) an apology.

It is only HIs mercy we are experiencing right now, and nothing else. We continue to pray for that everyday....especially those of us who live in California. He is a patient God, very patient, but His Majesty will reign and our nations intolerance, rejection and persecution will force His hand.... at some point. It would be wrong to take advantage of His mercy and graciousness.

Remember the vision He gave you a while back.....do your own reality check...please!
Cause otherwise you are in for a shock.

To me the DINAR seems more unrealsitic than ever.

Carole

-- May 25, 2008 2:01 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

OK, I am willing to make a prediction here.
John McCain will become President..
and then, during the time he is serving in the Whitehouse, there will be another large scale attack on US soil.
Because it is John McCain in that capacity, the response he makes will save lives,
Whereas, if Obama had been allowed to be President, many American lives would not be saved.
The attack is inevitable under either Presidential candidate.
The only difference will be the response.

What we are choosing in this election is wisdom over inexperience.. and the issue involves American lives.
WHICH American lives? Whose lives are at stake? You and I do not know.
The life you save by voting for McCain.. may be your own, or someone you love.
Because both McCain and Obama are "moderate" to "accomodating" to the terrorist position, the first hit is inevitable.

Under President Bush we are safe.
But we would not be under Obama.. and due to the influence of the Democrats in plying McCain..
we are not safe from this first attack under McCain, either.

Look at what I posted about Obama's views on defense..
does that not give you a clue about how things would go if he were to have the Whitehouse?
Obama's own words about what he would do with the defense of the United States:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

Sara.

-- May 25, 2008 11:48 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;
I am well aware of McCain's leanings.
He is not a President Bush at all.
He was asked to be John Kerry's running mate.. as a Democrat.
Their idea he is far right like the President.. is false.

==

Trail of Tall Tales: John McCain
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, May 22, 2008

Sen. John McCain has long presented himself as that rare bird in politics: an inveterate straight-shooter. But does campaign strain have McCain’s Straight Talk Express veering off course?

A string of incidents stemming from the senator’s two presidential runs suggests he’s no less fallible than any other candidate — and just as capable of adjusting facts to suit his purpose.

5. Conversation with Kerry, May 15, 2004
During the 2004 presidential campaign, speculation was widespread that Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, had asked McCain to join him as his running mate in the general election.

Non-truth: McCain told The New York Times that Kerry made no such offer, and when asked whether the two had ever discussed the possibility, even casually, McCain said, after pausing, “No. We really haven’t.”

Truth: McCain was asked again in 2008 about his reported conversation with Kerry, and told The New York Times, “I mean it’s well known. Everybody knows, it’s been well chronicled a thousand times that John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.”

Sources: “Undeterred by McCain Denials, Some See Him as Kerry’s No. 2,” New York Times, May 15, 2004; “McCain Asked About 2004 Conversation with Kerry,” New York Times, March 7, 2008.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/22/trail-of-tall-tales-john-mccain/

Obviously, if John Kerry considered him Democrat material as a running mate..
the idea he is a far right Republican like President Bush does not fly.
The difference the American people get with McCain over Obama..
is his experience in many matters during the aftermath.
McCain is still the better choice to run the country when faced with an unfolding terrorist scenerio in any case.

Republicans and Democrats cannot allow the inexperienced and untried youth of Obama into the Whitehouse.
Lives depend upon it. It isn't a question of political party.. there isn't much choice there.
But it is a question of EXPERIENCE and policy which would make safer and ease the harm in the aftermath.
Witness the Myanmar Junta reaction to the devastation of the cyclone versus the Chinese government's response.
That is the difference between Obama and McCain's responses.
McCain's response will save, Obama's will cost lives.
It is that simple.

Sara.

-- May 25, 2008 12:04 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Thanks to all, for the friendly hello, and welcome back.

Sara, I agree with you, on your last post, as to the danger of radical Islam. However, I think America has been extremely foolish, in some ways, in dealing with this problem. As President Bush said, in his State of the Union Address, a couple of years ago, "America is addicted to oil."

As you likely know, most of the revenue of Islamic countries, that are giving the world such trouble, are oil-rich countries that get most of their revenue from oil. And America uses 25% of the world's oil, despite it's small population, compared to the rest of the world. What this means, in practical terms, is that America is indirectly and inadvertantly funding world terrorism. That's quite a claim to make, isn't it? Well, I'm friendly towards America, but I think it's true. In fact, I know it's true. Americans don't do this knowingly, or willingly, but they do it nontheless. We all fill up our gas tanks, with gas imported from the middle east, the money goes to governments like Saudi Arabia and Iran, that are hostile to America.

Canada is no different. Oil and gas to supply the eastern half of Canada, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritime Provinces, all comes from the overseas oil supply. This is true, even though Canada has a lot of oil and gas. There is not enough pipeline capacity, between eastern and western Canada, for this country to be self-sufficient in oil, despite the fact that Canada has a lot of oil, and exports a lot to the United States. Canada has been slow to build east-west connections with oil and gas, for a reason. We have a free trade agreement with the US, guaranteeing our American neighbors a lot of our oil. We honor that agreement, but what it means is that oil flows north south, on this continent, and the eastern half of Canada gets it's oil from overseas, from the world market, much like America does. That means Canada, like the U.S., sends revenue streams to countries with terrorist links and agendas. The money ends up in the hands of governments that want to destroy the U.S., like Iran.

Iran, without oil, would be a pathetic basket case of a country. They certainly wouldn't be developing nuclear weapons, to challenge and target the U.S. Even with oil, lots of it, at record high prices, the Iranian government has mismanaged their own country so badly, they are barely viable economically right now, even with shiploads of money coming in, from North America, Japan, and Europe. Without oil revenues, their societies would collapse very, very quickly. A loss of most of the oil revenue would mean they could no longer afford developing nuclear potential, or weapons. It would meant they would be weak. It's doubtful if, without oil, most middle eastern countries could even afford to feed their own people. Under those circumstances, Muslim governments in the middle east would be more reasonable, and much much easier to deal with, and much less of a threat.

So, in my opinion, part of an effective strategy of dealing with the threats of global terrorism, and the threat of gloal jihad, is to cut foreign dependence on oil. I totally agree that global jihad is a very serious threat, even more of a threat than the horrible threat that communism was. America faced down communism, and thanks to one of my heroes, Ronald Reagan, destroyed it. The world should be forever grateful to him, for that. But to destroy global jihadism will require a different strategy, than what worked against the Russians.

America was not funding communism. It wasn't underpinning and propping up the Soviet economy. It wasn't providing 80-90% of the revenue for communistic states. It wasn't totally dependent on communist states for a commodity that was what Henry Kissinger called, "the blood of the modern economy" I wish I could say the same thing about America and jihadist states, but I can't. America is, in fact, providing the funding that ends in the hands of hostile governments, working against America's interests. Jihadist states control the blood going into the American economic body. Is this wise? Or suicidal?

You quoted James Woolsey, former director of the CIA. I'm a fan of his. I read a book recently, called Freedom From Oil, by David Sandalow. It talks about specific government policies, that should be put in place, in order to lessen American dependency on foreign oil. James Woolsey praised the book on the back cover, "Superb analysis and recommendations that show how we can break our dependence on oil without further dithering. The next Administration, or this one, could do no better than to go with Sandalow's package."

So, as a friend of America, I would say this: Americans need to think about jihad, and the dangers you described so accurately, and then take a hard and long look in the mirror. Is America part of the problem? Specifically, the way Americans have structured their economy? We all know, American taxpayers are funding the war against terrorism, at great cost to themselves. But are Americans funding the war against their own country? Is that wise? And what can be done to change that?


-- May 25, 2008 12:11 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Thanks to all, for the friendly hello, and welcome back.

Sara, I agree with you, on your last post, as to the danger of radical Islam. However, I think America has been extremely foolish, in some ways, in dealing with this problem. As President Bush said, in his State of the Union Address, a couple of years ago, "America is addicted to oil."

As you likely know, most of the revenue of Islamic countries, that are giving the world such trouble, are oil-rich countries that get most of their revenue from oil. And America uses 25% of the world's oil, despite it's small population, compared to the rest of the world. What this means, in practical terms, is that America is indirectly and inadvertantly funding world terrorism. That's quite a claim to make, isn't it? Well, I'm friendly towards America, but I think it's true. In fact, I know it's true. Americans don't do this knowingly, or willingly, but they do it nontheless. We all fill up our gas tanks, with gas imported from the middle east, the money goes to governments like Saudi Arabia and Iran, that are hostile to America.

Canada is no different. Oil and gas to supply the eastern half of Canada, Ontario, Quebec, the Maritime Provinces, all comes from the overseas oil supply. This is true, even though Canada has a lot of oil and gas. There is not enough pipeline capacity, between eastern and western Canada, for this country to be self-sufficient in oil, despite the fact that Canada has a lot of oil, and exports a lot to the United States. Canada has been slow to build east-west connections with oil and gas, for a reason. We have a free trade agreement with the US, guaranteeing our American neighbors a lot of our oil. We honor that agreement, but what it means is that oil flows north south, on this continent, and the eastern half of Canada gets it's oil from overseas, from the world market, much like America does. That means Canada, like the U.S., sends revenue streams to countries with terrorist links and agendas. The money ends up in the hands of governments that want to destroy the U.S., like Iran.

Iran, without oil, would be a pathetic basket case of a country. They certainly wouldn't be developing nuclear weapons, to challenge and target the U.S. Even with oil, lots of it, at record high prices, the Iranian government has mismanaged their own country so badly, they are barely viable economically right now, even with shiploads of money coming in, from North America, Japan, and Europe. Without oil revenues, their societies would collapse very, very quickly. A loss of most of the oil revenue would mean they could no longer afford developing nuclear potential, or weapons. It would meant they would be weak. It's doubtful if, without oil, most middle eastern countries could even afford to feed their own people. Under those circumstances, Muslim governments in the middle east would be more reasonable, and much much easier to deal with, and much less of a threat.

So, in my opinion, part of an effective strategy of dealing with the threats of global terrorism, and the threat of gloal jihad, is to cut foreign dependence on oil. I totally agree that global jihad is a very serious threat, even more of a threat than the horrible threat that communism was. America faced down communism, and thanks to one of my heroes, Ronald Reagan, destroyed it. The world should be forever grateful to him, for that. But to destroy global jihadism will require a different strategy, than what worked against the Russians.

America was not funding communism. It wasn't underpinning and propping up the Soviet economy. It wasn't providing 80-90% of the revenue for communistic states. It wasn't totally dependent on communist states for a commodity that was what Henry Kissinger called, "the blood of the modern economy" I wish I could say the same thing about America and jihadist states, but I can't. America is, in fact, providing the funding that ends in the hands of hostile governments, working against America's interests. Jihadist states control the blood going into the American economic body. Is this wise? Or suicidal?

You quoted James Woolsey, former director of the CIA. I'm a fan of his. I read a book recently, called Freedom From Oil, by David Sandalow. It talks about specific government policies, that should be put in place, in order to lessen American dependency on foreign oil. James Woolsey praised the book on the back cover, "Superb analysis and recommendations that show how we can break our dependence on oil without further dithering. The next Administration, or this one, could do no better than to go with Sandalow's package."

So, as a friend of America, I would say this: Americans need to think about jihad, and the dangers you described so accurately, and then take a hard and long look in the mirror. Is America part of the problem? Specifically, the way Americans have structured their economy? We all know, American taxpayers are funding the war against terrorism, at great cost to themselves. But are Americans funding the war against their own country? Is that wise? And what can be done to change that?


-- May 25, 2008 12:12 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

I have thought about America's dependence on oil. Even if we stoppped buying oil from the middle east, this action by itself would not stop the threat of terrorism. The middle east would simply sell to other buyers, like China, Russia etc.

Like Joel Rosenberg says, there is truly evil in the world. How does evil thrive?. Through power, money etc. A military threat to the USA would not be averted. I think, USA would still be facing the same future due to the evil intent of the hearts of people wishing to do the USA harm.

The best we can do is to work on policies that we become energy independent, economic free (reduce debt) and to build our national defense to the homeland. Sometimes, I think this country needs a Ron Paul. His views are on isolationism. Unfortunately, the rest of the world who are in the same boat as the USA does not need isolationism. USA will have to build on foreign policy to build friendships!! But Ron Paul has good point--- We (USA) has to stop spending more than the USA takes in!!!!

We need to ask the same question that John Kennedy asked, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country?". Normally, when our country is at war, we would be buying war bonds, and other projects. Not with this war. Go figure. Our very liberty may be at stake in our country, if america is not careful.

Laura Parker

-- May 25, 2008 4:40 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Carole:

Your dissolution with Dinar speaks to your characteristic to be "tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine." I realize this is taken out of context and does not apply to our investment. I think it speaks to the the type of investor you are. A year or so ago when you came here spouting about your R/E freind buying large sums of Dinar, you were very bullish. In fact, I beleive you gave relatives a 25000 dinar note as gifts.

Now, I see you think that this investment is unrealistic. Please explain what has changed your mind? Is it the prospect of Obama being President, which I do not believe. Is it the slow pace of the parliment related to the HCL? If you now believe it is now unrealistic, please sell. I am sure you can make a small profit on what you purchased.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 25, 2008 5:12 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura, your comments about terrorism and oil are fair. Other countries would buy oil, from terrorist states, if Americans don't. Terrorism and threats against the U.S. will continue. That's true. America can't let up on radical Islam, or the world is in trouble. But America is an awful big customer of radical Muslim oil-rich states. If America goes on a crash program of getting off oil, it would do great harm to it's enemies. I would support such an effort.

Also, America is the leading scientific and technological country in the world. If America committed to a large, and long term goal of devoloping and supporting research and technological knowledge to get off oil, it would eventually be successful, on a large scale. There were enormous scientific and practical spin-off benefits to the money spent during the 1960s doing research, getting a man to the moon. The same thing would happen to a large scientific push to get off oil.

If the Age of Oil eventually ends, with the development of alternative energy sources, as many in the scientific community think it will, sometime this century, then the power of radical Islam will be severely diminished. That's something the world can look forward to, and it can't happen too soon. If America develops, lets say, practical and cheap fusion power, and fantastic car batteries that allow vehicles to charge up for as long as cars drive on gasoline today, then if this technology were cheap enough, everyone around the world would want to buy it. This would mean the global power of Islam would be in long term decline, due to shear economic forces. I think that would be great. There is more than one way to defeat an enemy. I wouldn't be surprised if this is, in fact, what eventually happens, some time later this century.

There is a lot of work on various energy technologies, that will eventually pay big dividends for America. I just think America needs to do more, and develop a long term vision for energy independence, and put a lot more money into it.

America has known about it's vulnerability on energy since the energy crises of the 1970s. They didn't get serious about solving the problem back then. There was a reason America didn't get serious. After the energy crisis at that time, the Arab oil producers increased production dramatically and the price went down, and oil was cheap for over 20 years, and America fell asleep. Arab countries lowered the price, to get America, in the president's words, "addicted to oil". It worked. America took the bait. America thought the days of cheap energy would last forever, and neither Republican nor Democratic Administrations got serious about solving this problem. So between the 1970s crisis and today, America became more and more dependent on foreign oil. Bad move.

My view is, the Arabs knew exactly what they were doing, getting America hooked on cheap oil. Arab countries are bleeding America dry, on oil money. And look where they are using America's money. And now many countries like China and India are starting to use more and more oil, and there is a supply problem, and the price is going through the roof. The oil community is divided on the problem of supply right now. A fair number of people are saying the world will run out of oil, this century, as was forecasted by geologist Hubbert, in his Peak Oil Theory, of several decades ago. Other people disagree. But whatever the case, most geologists and economists agree that the days of cheap oil are over. All the cheap oil, that easy to find, has been found. Whatever oil remains is going to be expensive to develop. The exception is Iraq, of course, which has the largest deposit of remaining cheap oil left in the world. Which is partly why I invested in the Iraqi Dinar. It will be worth an awful lot of money some day.

Anyhow, I digress. You made some good points, but I still say depending on oil from middle eastern countries that want to destroy the United States is a foolish strategy. Paying money to people who hate you, and want to kill you, is asking for trouble. Whatever happens in the rest of the world, my point remains, for a variety of reasons, that is is very much in America's interest, in getting off oil, and developing alternative energy sources.

-- May 25, 2008 7:09 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

I am in agreement with you on America's dependence of oil and that it would be my preference that we not buy oil from the middle east. However, the practical reality is that americans are hooked on oil for her economic future.

I have been thinking about this problem for some time. My home is run on electric and due to the south Florida hurricanes, my husband and I had to install a generator for back up electricity. The generator runs on propane and is an expensive form of energy to purchase. The reality is that without the generator, my home would have no water as well as no refrigeration. We would have no water because the water pump to the well runs on electricity. I wish there was some way around this problem other than the solution we generated but for now, this seems to be the only solution.

However, we were was to have installed a solar reflector to heat the hot water heater instead of using nature gas. The system does run on electricity as a back up if needed. This is a savings on the increased costs of electricity that is also going up.

In addition, my husand and I have been shopping for a car that would be run from electricity/battery. We were thinking about the Hybrid Malibu from Chevy but the dealer could not get the 2008. Now we are either looking at the 2009 Hybrid Malibu or possibly a new model coming out in 2010.

Energy conservation needs to be a top agenda item on the minds of all americans and all friends of america. I know, Roger was working on a Hydro-fueled car for a while. I don't think it went well for him though. He got an old car and worked on it in his garage. Too bad. I hoped it would have worked. This is type of research that america needs.

I seemed to have read somewhere that someone invented the hydo car but the fuel industry did not want this model on the market because it would render profits down the drain. This was a lot of years ago. Maybe someone can research this area to see if such a car was a reality.

I do know that if America puts it's mind to it (and maybe Israel--as they have top scientists) that people could figure out what kinds of things americans and others can do to get away with not using petro products.

Laura Parker

-- May 25, 2008 9:48 PM


NEIL wrote:

First, let me say that I am a Republican and will stay a Republican and will vote for McCain but it will be with no enthusiasm. I could have voted for Romney with pride and worked vigorously for him.

This country is in a very precarious position and noone seems to recognize the seriousness of the situation or offers any solution.

We have got to find some way to get off the oil addiction as our very existence depends upon it. OPEC at any time can bring our Country to its knees by cutting off the oil.
Sure, we are getting oil from other places but when OPEC shuts off the spigots, the supply will dry up everywhere.
When the oil stops, so does most everything in the Country just as surely as things would stop if our computers were blocked.

I believe that we are at the point that we have to start thinking America first and make our interest paramount in every decision that we make. I thought that when we got involved in Iraq that we would get some major concessions insofar as oil but I have seen none. It is great to be kind and caring with every country but when we see our foundation collapsing underneath our feet, maybe it is time to get a little tougher with the world and think self-preservation occasionally.

I know we can hang on for a while longer without any detrimental effect but there is dark cloud over America that we are going to have to deal with at some point.

-- May 25, 2008 11:21 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

The paragraph that reads "However we were to have installed a solar reflector..." should have read, However we installed a solar reflector...

Sorry about the mixed up statement. I was re-editing the statement and should have taken out these words in the statement.

Laura Parker

-- May 25, 2008 11:28 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Neil,

I agree with you. America is in a precarious state. I also believe that most people, and most countries, often delay dealing with serious problems, until they are forced to. The conflicts after 9-11, including Afghanistan and Iraq, and the ongoing threat of terrorism, and the recent huge increase in the price of oil, all problems that are linked to American addiction to oil, are the catylist that will eventually force America to realize the seriousness of the issue, and work out bi-partisan solutions, and stop the childish bickering in Washington.

Part of the reason I supported the war in Iraq, unlike most Canadians, was that I think President Bush is very wise. I think he was looking ahead, and he understood how serious a threat radical Islam was, long before other leaders. (still, even now, many leaders and ordinary people are clueless about the seriousness of the issue, including my well educated, but very liberal sister) President Bush knew there had to be a response to 9-11. He has very good instincts. He knew that wars with Muslim countries would rile up Americans, and make them think very seriously about that threat. He also knew that America was addicted to oil, and that a lot of it came from these same Muslim countries. He knew that America had never kicked it's addiction to oil, even though many people in the US have seen this problem coming for decades. President Bush knew people don't take serious action, unless confronted with serious situations, and he knew that a war in the middle east would bring all these problems to the forefront of the minds and emotions of Americans, which was necessary, in order to get people to take them seriously, and to solve them. America is not quite there yet, in terms of comprehending the seriousness of the situation they are confronted with. Neil was quite right in talking about debt, because that is part of the problem, and is an indication of the weakness of the American economy right now. I think President Bush foresaw all this, and everything he did, was to bring the American people along to the point where eventually they clued into the seriousness of these problems. Americans certainly know much much more about the political and religious and other problems in dealing with the Muslim world, than they did before 9-11, due to their experience in two wars. And this experience will stand them in good stead, in the future, because I think the Muslim world will be the focus of global conflict, with America, probably for the next hundred years. So, I think, in the long run, having a war with Iraq will lead to good. And President Bush will be vindicated.

And the wolf's nearly at the door. However, America is always great when the wolf is at the door. And I think the wolf is circling the house, getting ready to knock at the door. The next few years should be very interesting.

Laura,

good for you, for taking an active role in conservation. I helped my brother build a straw bale construction house that was super-efficient once, so this interests me. I read a report on energy efficiency last year that detailed all the energy inefficiencies in the U.S. It turned out the best way to cut back on energy consumption was to increase efficiency, using known technology. America has done a poor job on this, so far. If the whole country had your attitude, the problem would be solved for sure.

Laura,

you quote Joel Rosenberg as saying evil thrives in this world through power and money. Yes, it does. And when Iran goes looking throughout the world, to buy weapons of mass destruction, and the technology to harm America, when they go looking to Russia and China, for weapons and technology they were unable to develop themselves, the quickest way to buy those weapons is with money. Money that comes in part, indirectly, from the United States, since the massive amount oil oil consumption by America drives up the price of energy.

Which is all good and well, but in the end, I still want to do well on this investment, and I believe with every fibre of my being, that I will. America will succeed in Iraq, and we will all do very, very well as a consequence, and byproduct of that. I really believe, that's the way the winds of history will blow. They'll blow in our direction.

-- May 26, 2008 12:34 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

that was me.

-- May 26, 2008 12:35 AM


cornishboy wrote:


Central Bank Governor: the high price of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar by 20% over the past 16 months

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 25 / 05 / 2008 at 21:46:34

Central Bank Governor said that the Iraqi Iraqi dinar exchange rate rose against the dollar by 20% over the past 16 months due to Bank procedures.

Alshabibi explained in a press conference in Baghdad, today, Sunday, that "the improvement in the Iraqi dinar hit 20% during the implementation of the Bank's monetary policy through raising its value against the dollar in the daily auction of the Bank over the past 16 months."

He added that the exchange rate can not be determined because it depends on the evolution of inflation in the country and the supply and demand to buy the dollar.

He pointed out that changing the dinar's exchange rate policy because the central bank concerned the short economic variables, pointing out that Iraq has suffered over the past three years Awalarbah of inflation reached 65%, according to reports from Central Agency for Statistics.

He called Alshabibi Sunday, the Iraqi government to maximize economic growth through interest in industrial and agricultural sectors to cover their growth and reduce inflation.

And between the two types of economic growth, the first monetary growth through higher fiscal revenues and second, the real growth through the provision of services by relying on economic development.

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-- May 26, 2008 9:47 AM


cornishboy wrote:

US gives nod for Gulf forex change

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US gives nod for Gulf forex change
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Doha • A report by the US Treasury to Congress on international economic and exchange rate policies, also known as the FX manipulation report, seems to have given the green signal for a depegging of GCC currencies like the Qatari riyal from the greenback.

According to Merrill Lynch (ML): "The latest (manipulation) report highlights the rigidities in GCC currencies. This represents a modest change in focus, but we believe a big signal for the currencies of the GCC."

ML said there were market concerns the US was reluctant to push the GCC countries into a change in currency regime given the possible negative effects on the dollar. “The fact the US Treasury has become more comfortable in noting the change in sentiment in GCC countries suggests to us that it is more confident about the outlook for the dollar,” said ML.

The US now acknowledges there is pressure on GCC currencies to adopt more flexible foreign exchange regimes which also goes on to suggest the risk to the dollar has lessened.

The manipulation report is in part to determine if US trading partners manipulate currencies and also outlines the currency practices of the US' major trading partners. If a country is found to be manipulating currency, talks must be held with the US government.

However, this is not a hard and fast rule and the US Treasury Secretary need not enter into talks with offenders if he feels it would have a detrimental effect on matters like national security and American economic interests.

ML said: "With the US sending a green light for currency regime change, the focus may shift to domestic constraints. We recognise that there may still be some significant domestic resistance to exchange rate regime changes, but overall we believe that a number of GCC countries will ultimately be forced by the market to let their currencies strengthen."

The Treasury report highlighted the increase in inflation in GCC states which has intensified discussions in the region on revaluation or adjustments in currency rate regimes.

ML said: "As stressed in the Treasury report, some adjustment to real effective exchange rates in the region - especially in Qatar and the UAE - is taking place through rising prices. The root causes of inflation in the GCC are multiple, including higher food prices, strong demand pressures and abundant domestic liquidity."
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-- May 26, 2008 9:51 AM


cornishboy wrote:

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Higher oil prices, services and goods in Iraq in the eyes of economists

Network news: The phenomenon of rising prices for goods and services, food and fuel from the phenomena that had been interested in assurances by counterpart institutions and economists in the world recently, as well as the impact on the political reality and political attention to this aspect of several considerations that this phenomenon is growing and thus increase the economic hardships caused Of peoples and the increasing incidence of poverty throughout the world.

Iraq is one of the countries affected by this crisis has revealed the report in this regard by the Central Agency for Statistics and Information Technology for the sharp escalation in the prices of the Iraqi market .. Asher as the consumer price index this phenomenon and found through the comparison of prices in 2005, 2006 that the annual inflation index has risen for the period of March 2006 from March 2005 rate of 53.4% as it included all the totals rising market (food, etc.), The report concluded that the upward trend in prices that characterized the period, in order to highlight the causes that led to this situation, economic expert said Hilal Hashem Ta `: One of the most important reasons that led to increased prices, particularly food prices, is the imbalance in import Foodstuffs by the Ministry of Commerce, which led to a shortage of some foodstuffs and delayed distribution within the vocabulary (ration card) and thereby increase their prices in the local market in the Iraqi Among those materials (rice, sugar, oil, liquid) and the other factor is the difficulty of flow of goods to various areas The reason of the country due to the harsh security conditions, has had a rise in fuel prices and indirect effects of rapid increase in prices reflected the increase in the cost of transporting goods both coming across the border from neighboring countries or those which are distributed to various provinces of the country. According to Sabah newspaper in Iraq.

Ta `added .. The policy of economic openness also resulted in the convergence of commodity prices with their counterparts in neighboring countries note that the Iraqi market is one of the cheapest markets for that to be addressing economic development aimed at reducing the prices (of goods and services) and take those treated the question of providing goods and services on a regular basis within the vocabulary (the card Supply) with securing strategic stock of food in warehouses of the Trade Ministry to meet the growing demand in the domestic market of Iraq, and to eliminate the phenomenon of smuggling of foodstuffs to neighboring countries through control of border outlets, and work to set up committees to monitor jointly by the Ministry of Commerce and Interior to eliminate The phenomenon of the accumulation (of goods and commodities) in special warehouses so that there is artificial scarcity lead to a clear rise in prices.

His .. Must activate the economic decision that this resolution does not remain imprisoned in the famous remark by saying (that the economic effect to his decision through a political window) because this image reflects the economic role of the marginalized Iraqi, who does not live up to resolution actor, but is at best take the role of referendum Only in the same oriented economic expert said, that the high prices of goods and services resulting from imbalance by GNP, a weak contribution of the commodity sectors to generate output in favour of imports which led to a clear imbalance between supply and aggregate demand since the latter was an increase by increases in wages and salaries, despite The presence of (economic recession) experienced by the Iraqi economy and added .. In order to address this rise in prices must activate the local component of the presentation to be high and will be responsible for coverage of aggregate demand, but noted that the (import content of the presentation of the total) is responsible for coverage of aggregate demand, which explains ups, but monetary policy does not exist now in Iraq to the There are greater increases in the price level, and there is an important aspect must be recalled that the increase (spending on services), although their importance did not contribute to addressing the imbalances in the structure of the gross national product and therefore must be given the amounts allocated to invest a larger portion of the state budget in order to activate the role of Commodity sectors by stimulating the real sector Almttml agriculture, industry and others.

The consequences of rising oil prices

The phenomenon of rising prices of fuel are also no different in terms of attention from their counterparts in the food Economists have warned of the rising global crude oil prices would have negative returns on the Iraqi economy with continued government spending in areas other than investment and continue to rely on goods and services Imported.
The experts agreed that the increase in oil revenues because of high oil prices would aggravate inflation and adversely affect the trade balance if the Iraqi import payments increased because it would lead to the erosion of export refunds and depressed market.

He said Dr. Abdul Sattar Abdul Jabbar teaches at the Department of Economics Mustansiriyah University that the positives of higher crude prices in the short term is concentrated in "the improvement in balance of payments position due to an increase in Iraqi balance of foreign currency resulting from improved trade balance that allows the government to meet the requirements of society, such as building the army and rehabilitation Infrastructure and build new oil refineries and improve public services.
But in the long term we have to carry, the opinion of teaching, negative impacts if not invest oil revenues in a rational, negative impacts in the development of the trade balance and an increase in import payments due to the adoption of Iraq imported consumer goods that leads to erosion of returns and the loss of oil export capacity for government spending, which Inevitable particularly in the area of infrastructure and social security issues.
He said Abdul Jabbar, these conditions contribute to weakening purchasing power of consumers and investors Iraqis and reduce the effective size of aggregate demand and end the incentive for investment and provide agents to expel the Iraqi capital and foreign. According to agency Voices of Iraq.
The economic expert on fears that higher prices of imported goods due to higher general level of prices declined in real incomes for individuals which would lead to increased costs and reduced the volume of profits and weaken the competitiveness of industrial goods exported and stop national industries.

But at the same time, he warned that there is a possibility of instability in the Iraqi economy if a sharp decline in crude oil prices, which constitutes 95% of the imports and 65% of the overall budget, because high oil prices will not last for long, because the search for importers Cheaper alternatives.
Supports this analysis Economic researcher Dr. Hilal Ta `contending that the positive effects of increased world oil prices on the Iraqi economy is concentrated in" increasing the income of the general budget for Iraq, and an improvement in the exchange rate of Iraqi dinar in the global currency market due to increased cash to cover the Iraqi currency of foreign currencies. "

But he recalls that "Iraq is made to import 90% of materials and goods that would need to increase the trade balance deficit Iraqi and thereby increase the deficit in balance of payments on Iraq."

Ta `He pointed out that" the Iraqi government has not yet benefited from increased crude oil prices have not been investing this resource due to optimize the administrative and financial corruption in Iraq is very large. "
And approves economic researcher Dr. Abdul Jabbar Alliance on the implications of rising crude oil prices are purely financial.

He said: "There will be new financial flows at the high price of oil means that the gross domestic product growth will be based on the oil sector only and that the growth of Mali, not developmental."

However, the Head of the Economics Department Mustansiriyah University, Dr. Ahmed Al Wazzan believes that "higher crude oil prices will cause a rise in prices of goods and services produced in general and, consequently, increasing inflation and economic stagnation that has moved from its level at the local level consumers of oil to the global economy."

Wazzan finds that the effects of rising raw Asaralinvt the economics of Petroleum Exporting Countries, including Iraq, based on their policies on the disposition of oil revenues.

According to the Economic States which will invest those proceeds in raising the standard of living for its citizens to avoid import extremist, and support investment in economic projects to create alternative income for crude oil, will benefit more from countries that would fail to dispose of the economic proceeds of oil to suffer from inflation.

He added that the positives Wazzan increase world oil prices will be limited in the short term to alleviate austerity measures resulting from the Iraqi individual or a consumer product such as reducing government expenditure and raising public support gradually on some vital goods and oil derivatives in the ration card because the Iraqi government's commitment to implement the action programmes Structural adjustment in response to pressure from the International Monetary Fund and the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.


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-- May 26, 2008 10:06 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara
I think your predictions are very realistic! I pray we are both wrong about the gloom and doom that possibly lies ahead, but there does not seem to be any roads back...

Rob,

Because of my limited time available, I do not research the Dinar issue. Practicaly everything I know, I get from this blog site.
Standing back and looking at the picture presented by articles, opinions and the world situation, I draw a conclusion that along with everything else, there is a conserted effort to manipulate politics, oil, terrorist countries, the dollar, etc.

I guess, I just lack the imagination to be able to see the mechanisms and powers that would have to be put into REAL MOTION which would allow millions of Americans to become almost instantly MILLIONAIRES!

Neil explained the econmic situation as far as housing so on target. Two years ago, or so when I first started on this blog, I would have been considered a fairly well off individual. Mostly from equities on realestate. My balance sheet looks like swiss cheese right now.

That "big machine" ( one that we spend so much time trying to figure out- who and what and why on)has manipulated the housing market and financial institutions so as to literally rob millions and millions of Americans of their highest life's assests. Probably never to recover. Something so WIDE and so DEEP is not just "happenstance". The government through national and international investors or realestate monies ( financial institutions-lenders)allowed,encouraged and funded our citizens to dig holes that they didn't see coming much less how to get out of them. They were financial land mines. For whatever ends this conspriacy had in mind, ( and that doesn't take too much imagination), they used lenders as the "hit-men" if you will. Now their rewards( the lenders) will be given debt forgivenss and ways to bail out .........but what about the "lendees"? Most are just trying to figure out the easiest way to get out of their houses without disasterous effects to their FICO scores ( which is another farce!). And walk away with their tails between their legs, humiliated, and wondering how and where they will live. AND THIS HAS HAPPENED IN LESS THAN 24 MONTHS!

Eliminating the death tax is almost irrelevant to the middle class anymore. Most large inheritances are derivied from realestate. Most families could not afford the property taxes on any inherited realestate to even make any financial sense to do anything less than let the investment go. Because that "big machine" has robbed all the equity.

SOOOOOO, in my feebled, humbled mind I can not invision any reality in that "big Machine" allowing millions of Americans, or anyone the opporotunity of incredible wealth.

The bullish episodes toward the Dinar should be interpreted as "hope". We have all had it...with Roger at the top of the list. And God only knows how I hope it all works out....but the reality of it has the odds stacked up against it....as I see it.

In my own situation, I never liquidated any of my equities to reinvested in more property,as much of my family and millions did creating double jeporady losses. And, my realestate loans are secured, and not part of the teaser loan scams, the government allowed to millions of middle-class families. But, I have lost 60% of my equity! That is REAL MONEY! The kicker is that if I did want to take the remaining equity out.....there is no one willing or able to make those loans. Why? Because they have shut down all roads to recovery. Knowing that the "bail out" for me would be to take my monies and let them take the houses. THEY AIN'T NEVER GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN! The bail outs are only for the lending institutions.

Thank God, I have always seen precious metals as a neccessity for my financial portfolio. As fortunate as I a to have those assests, they ony cover about 15% of my losses. I truly am not complaining, cause I still feel relatively safe. But my heart breaks for the millions of families from which all hope has been robbed.

The trickle down effect, I fear will impact my tax free municpal bonds. With cities and counties, here in California, facing chapter 13's, the future could be perilous there too. They are insured, but how efficient or dependable that process will be is anybody's guess.

Maybe for my own sanity, I should jump back on the "when the Dinar hits" band wagon and we can all do the Kumbaya ballad, ignoring the gut feeling that the "big machine" will pull the switch at any time.

I know my skepticism is nauseating, but not without good cause. I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade. AND, PLEASE KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO BE TOTALLY WRONG!

Carole

-- May 26, 2008 11:36 AM


Sara wrote:

Neil, Laura, timbitts, Carole and board - no need to feel glum over the "fuel crisis"..

A Very Good Solution.. for Our Self-preservation.. :)

For self-preservation we rely on God and HIS giving to us what we need.
But that is never sitting around HOPING for a solution but moving out in faith,
trusting in the LORD to give us good old American (and for you, timbitts, Canadian) Ingenuity!! :)

My opinion??
Here is what I think is the answer - HHO!!
It sure COULD be the answer to all our fuel dependency problems!!

100 miles on 4 ounces of water?
Building a hummer for the military with this NEW technology?
What do you think of THIS little known solution, board?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ERu9h9vIU

This looks like a good place to put your $$$ when the Dinar RVs -
making us independent fuel-wise and also making us investors prosperous with this NEW "Microsoft"-like startup.

Think this could be a big part of the solution?
This is the sort of thing we need to fund and help along..
God has given the solutions, they are there.. we just need to be looking for them..
and thanking God when we find His provision of them. :)

Laura.. how would this technology fit in your home??
Certainly I see it as a home heating answer.. how about you?

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 4:50 PM


Sara wrote:

I just wanted to mention about that Obama video again..
because it is important for you to understand concerning the election and why McCain MUST win.
(If you haven't seen it, please watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

In this youtube video, Obama states his campaign platform.. and says he will cut tens of BILLIONS of dollars from defense funding.
He goes on to say he will cut missile defense, space technology, future development of combat systems,
cut America's nuclear arsenal, ban fissile material, take ICBMs off "hair-trigger alert", and all because he has
"Messiah-like" powers to negotiate with Russia and the world, like no one has in history.
(If you believe this, write to me, the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale very reasonably, honest. /sarc off)
He also says he will make a "defense priority board" to determine where else to make CUTS..
and you cannot tell me with him cutting TENS of BILLIONS of dollars from defense.. that people won't lose their jobs.
They will.. lots of them.

Now, notice in the pictures from China's earthquake zone that those who are doing all the work are in military uniform.
They have masks on and have equipment... all of which are coming from the Chinese defense budget.
When you cut defense budgets, your ability to respond effectively to a crisis such as an "American Hiroshima" is also cut.
What this means is.. under Obama, there will be a much less effective response to a crisis of that kind of magnitude.
The ability to call in the marines/army/defense forces.. (if it were necessary) would be severely impaired by BILLIONS being taken from their funding.
That would mean American lives lost if the terrorists do indeed make good on their threats.. and PLANS. (see the MI5 article, above)

Apart from this young whipper-snapper's almost total inexperience in running anything.. which would be a terrible handicap in such a situation,
you have the fact that he has promised to impair our ability to bring aid to those who need it in an emergency.
And we saw what happens to people who are left for ten days without aid.. in Myanmar.
They die.. simple as that. The death figures go up.. double or triple what they would have been with aid.

So we are not dealing with only his inexperience.. but his totally shortsighted political policies during a time of war.
This combination WOULD cost American lives if he were to win the Whitehouse.
I believe God is merciful enough to deliver us from this "worst case" scenerio.
He won't let him be President.. because He cares for our lives.
There will be a terrorist attack.. but what happens after that depends a lot on who is in the Whitehouse.
And for that... America needs McCain.

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 5:15 PM


Sara wrote:

I haven't seen any polls on this recently.. but this one I posted Jan 2, 2007 on the board:

Poll for the coming year.. of 2007

On the majors:

50 - Just under half the public think it likely the U.S. will go to war with Iran or North Korea. Should it come down to that, 40 percent think the battle will be with Iran while 26 percent said North Korea.

60 - Six in 10 people think the U.S. will be the victim of a terrorist attack. An identical percentage thinks it likely that a biological or nuclear weapon will be unleashed somewhere else in the world.

70 - Seventy percent of people in the U.S. predict a major natural disaster in the country.

80 - Eight in 10 people predict lawmakers will raise the $5.15-an-hour federal minimum wage

===

The telephone poll of 1,000 adults was conducted Dec. 12-14 by Ipsos, an international polling firm. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 percentage points.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061231/ap_on_re_us/2007_predictions_ap_poll

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2006/12/iraqi_dinar_dis_6.html#127586

My question today... is 60% of the population right?
I believe they are.
It isn't a fringe opinion.. this is the majority opinion.
And I bet today the polling statistic would be higher..
because we are closer to it happening (see the MI5 article, above).
Let's deal with reality.. and pick the man for the top job who can do the best job in that terrible scenerio.
And that, of course.. is McCain.

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 5:25 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq violence at lowest level in four years, U.S. military says
05/25/2008

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The level of violence in Iraq has dropped within the past week to a level not seen in four years, a military spokesman said Sunday.

"Iraq-wide, we have seen a significant reduction of violence," said Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, spokesman for the Multi-National Forces.

"In the past week, security incidents decreased to levels we have not seen since March of 2004. These figures reflect a decrease in attacks of some 70 percent since the surge operations began in June of 2007," he said.

Driscoll also updated numbers from raids conducted in several Shiite neighborhoods of Baghdad on Friday. More than 513 people of interest were initially screened by Iraqi National Police, he said, and the Iraqi Army detained 128 people. U.S. forces screened 385 people, he said, and 344 were released.

Troops from Multi-National Division -- Baghdad took 40 people into custody, he said. Five of those were wanted criminals, and the remaining 35 were detained for questioning.

Several hundred Iraqi soldiers, with U.S. troops providing security, conducted the raids in the al-Amal and Bayaa neighborhoods in southwest Baghdad and the northwest Baghdad neighborhood of Rahmaniyat al-Shula, officials said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/25/iraq.main/index.html

-- May 26, 2008 6:18 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice:

"We're getting exactly what we had hoped: the emergence of a functioning government in Iraq that is making strides towards democracy and reconciliation, that is providing better security for its people, that is beginning to be integrated again into the region,"

===

U.S., Iran and Arab neighbours to meet on Iraq
Mon May 26, 2008
By Anna Ringstrom and Susan Cornwell

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - The United States will prod Sunni Arab states to offer more support to the Iraqi government at a conference in Sweden this week as a way of countering the growing influence of non-Arab Iran in Iraq.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki will chair the conference on Thursday, aimed at assessing progress in implementing a plan adopted at a meeting in Egypt last year to help Iraq rebuild after five years of war.

Analysts are watching for any contacts between U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Iranian counterpart, Manouchehr Mottaki, who will be attending the meeting, though U.S. officials say none are scheduled in Stockholm.

"If we don't get it right in Iraq, if we leave Iraq prematurely, then we're going to empower Iran," Rice said on Friday in an interview with CNBC's "Closing Bell with Maria Bartiromo.

"We're getting exactly what we had hoped: the emergence of a functioning government in Iraq that is making strides towards democracy and reconciliation, that is providing better security for its people, that is beginning to be integrated again into the region," she added.

Washington accuses Tehran of trying to destabilise the Shi'ite-led Iraqi government by training and arming local militias, a charge Iran denies.

The United States has been pressing Sunni Arab governments to shore up the government of Nuri al-Maliki by forgiving debts and opening diplomatic missions.

No ambassador from any Sunni-led Arab nation has been stationed permanently in Baghdad since 2005. The Sunni-led Arab governments cite security concerns.

VIOLENCE IS DOWN

Figures by the U.S. military released on Saturday indicated that violence in Iraq has fallen to its lowest level in more than four years, though officials say the progress is still reversible.

The Maliki government has committed to economic and political reforms under the International Compact with Iraq process, which aims at increasing the international engagement in the reconstruction of Iraq.

The commitments are the quid pro quo for support that the international community has in return committed to.

"Clearly this kind of meeting has some potential but it probably should not be overstated," said Rick Barton, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, adding debt relief and distribution of oil funds would be high on the agenda.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-33775720080526

-- May 26, 2008 6:37 PM


Sara wrote:

What is Memorial Day without a reminder of the need of each citizen to uphold the honor and service of those in the military and the flag which bears witness to their sacrifice in blood (red) sweat and tears.. that we may remain free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yiWWuPF82c

A moment worth remembering.. and emulating.

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 7:07 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara, very interesting video. Thanks. I have been collecting information on various emerging energy technolgies, that could replace dependancy on fossil fuels, for a while now. I'll add this to my list. In the mean time, even if a new technology emerges, to replace oil, I have observed that it takes several decades to convert economies, from one source of energy, to another. So I think the world will be running on oil for several more decades, at the least. Which means currencies like the Iraqi dinar, will eventually be worth a lot of money.

-- May 26, 2008 7:43 PM


Sara wrote:

A flip-flop on a domestic spending issue..
is not like one about foreign policy.
But it isn't just Obama's flip-flop.. it is the political expediency behind it...
showing both the lack of character and lack of experience of the man.
AND the fact that a flip-flop on foreign policy at a critical time.. could cost American lives.
What if these changes in opinion were while facing a real nuclear threat from Iran?
Can he be allowed the reigns of power in an experiment to "see" if this untried puppy "might" work?
I read McCain, Hillary and Obama's "tall tales".. in that series I quoted on Fox News.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/22/trail-of-tall-tales-john-mccain/
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/23/trail-of-tall-tales-barack-obama/
McCain's "tales" won't get anybody killed.. a distinction I feel makes him more electable..
if you enjoy living, that is.

===

FNC Shows Obama's Iran Flip-Flop, Colmes 'Might' Talk to Hitler
By Brad Wilmouth
May 23, 2008

Wednesday's Hannity and Colmes showed viewers clips of Barack Obama making contradictory statements from Sunday and Tuesday about whether Iran was a serious threat, with the Illinois Senator on Sunday saying "they don't pose a serious threat to us," but on Tuesday saying "Iran is a grave threat." Pollster Frank Luntz also sparred with FNC's liberal co-host Alan Colmes over whether it would be wise to meet with dictators like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Adolf Hitler, and got Colmes to admit that "I might" meet with Hitler. Luntz: "Would you talk to Hitler?" Colmes: "It would depend upon the circumstances. ... I might." (Transcript follows)

The segment began with a clip of Democratic Governor and Obama supporter Bill Richardson talking about Obama's desire to "talk to the Iranian leaderhip," and the clip of Obama talking about Iran were soon played, as they had been played on the previous night's show:

BARACK OBAMA CLIP #1, DATED MAY 18: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us.

OBAMA CLIP #2, DATED MAY 18: Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. I mean, if Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance.

OBAMA CLIP #3, DATED MAY 20: Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the regions and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel's existence. It denies the Holocaust.

==

GOP pollster Frank Luntz appeared as a guest and reported that he had found that "90 percent of Americans actually see Iran as a threat," and contended that "what Obama just said is absolutely opposed to what the vast majority of Americans -- Republicans and Democrats alike -- would support."

As he and Colmes argued over the wisdom of Obama talking to Ahmadinejad, Luntz asked: "Would you have talked to Adolf Hitler?"

Colmes resisted answering the question directly as he focused on denying that Hitler and Ahmadinejad are comparable. Colmes: "I don't buy the Hitler analogy. ... Iran does not have expansionist powers. Iran hasn't taken over Czechoslovakia. Iran hasn't taken over other countries."

Luntz later returned to the subject, and got Colmes to admit that he "might" be willing to meet with Hitler.. (see full transcript, at url below)

Comments:

1) Deep inside every Democrat by Blazer

Deep inside every Democrat theres a Neville Chamberlain ,..........hell, a Jimmy Carter aching to get out.

2) Increasingly, Obama is by Schnikeys

Increasingly, Obama is showing himself to be a used car salesman. Saying anything to be elected and going with the "dream candidate" portrayal.

3) Obama. But you'd launch missiles at Iran. Sure, why not? by Gary Hall

Obama. But you'd launch missiles at Iran. Sure, why not?
QUOTE:

Obama would consider missile strikes on Iran By David Mendell | ChicagoTribune staff reporter, September 25, 2004

U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama suggested Friday that the United States one day might have to launch surgical missile strikes into Iran and Pakistan to keep extremists from getting control of nuclear bombs.

[..]

Obama said the United States must first address Iran's attempt to gain nuclear capabilities by going before the United Nations Security Council and lobbying the international community to apply more pressure on Iran to cease nuclear activities. That pressure should come in the form of economic sanctions, he said. But if those measures fall short, the United States should not rule out military strikes to destroy nuclear production sites in Iran, Obama said.

===end quote==

Goodness, sounds like the Bush administration track. Looks like Obama has supported the Bush policy, tooth and nail. Time for "change." (;~> gary

4) Gary... Priceless... Of by bigtimer

Gary...

Priceless...

Of course the msm is/has ignored the hypocrisy of his various statements depending on when and where they were stated...before and after...it is never-ending anymore.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

5) Not expansionist? Earth to Alan... by expatriot

How does Hannity let Colon get away with saying that Iran has no expansionist powers? Who the heck is expanding into Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan? Alan needs to wake up, open his eyes to the world picture. Pull the head out and breath some fresh air Alan!!!

6) Not Chamberlain, but Quisling by americaneagle

Neville Chamberlain does not lurk in the hearts of Democrats because Chamberlain had the good sense to later recognize his folly and try to repair the damage he caused. And unlike Chamberlain, modern Democrats know exaclty what the outcome of appeasement is likely to be, yet they have no qualms about attempting this strategy at any time they are threatened.

They are more analagous to Quisling who willing sold his soul to the Nazi devil for political power. Quisling never tried to make things right, he never even admitted that he did anything remotely wrong! Now who sounds more like the modern Democrat Party; Quisling or Chamberlain?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/05/23/fnc-shows-obamas-iran-flip-flop-colmes-might-talk-hitler

-- May 26, 2008 7:50 PM


Sara wrote:

There won't be a successful assassination attempt on Obama

You have probably heard about Hillary's gaffe concerning staying in the race due to "You never know what’s going to happen…” including Mr. Obama possibly being assassinated:

Hillary Stays In Due To Assassination Risk
From South Dakota’s Argus Leader, via YouTube:

“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know I just, I don’t understand it.”

==end quote==

Man, she has stepped in it this time.

Big time.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-cites-assassination-for-staying-in

Well, I asked the Lord about it and He said that, though there are people who would likely threaten Mr. Obama's life, God would not let him die by assassination because it would make a martyr out of him for the Reverend Wright's of this world to eulogize as "the one man who would have been President, except he was killed because he was black".

Obama will run and be defeated on the issues - including his putting his being black (Africa-centric) before being patriotically American (not wearing the American flag lapel pin, etc). God won't let such persons (assassins) change history and give America a guilt complex over a black Presidential candidate dying. So.. whatever that comment meant or is morphed to mean.. it won't be affecting the outcome. No assassination will take place, so the rest of the conversations on it are mere fluff.. unproductive and definitely hurtful. Such discussion should be below the American people.

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 10:16 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain Wins in Blowout Open Thread
By NB Staff
May 24, 2008

This should evoke spirited discussion on a long weekend: according to Politico, GOP strategists think McCain will win in a blowout. Details below the fold (emphasis added),

QUOTE:

But the contours of the electoral map, combined with McCain’s unique strengths and the nature of Obama’s possible vulnerabilities, have led to a cautious and muted optimism that McCain could actually surpass Bush’s 35-electoral-vote victory in 2004. Though they expect he would finish far closer to Obama in the popular vote, the thinking is that he could win by as many 50 electoral votes. [...]

“There are a lot of scenarios that look good for McCain, and I almost would go so far to say that there are a lot more scenarios [than for Obama],” the strategist added. “I don’t think anybody over here wants to let themselves get too excited about it. It is an eternity between now and November. But McCain looks a lot stronger than our prospects as a party.” [...]

“The broader environment clearly favors the Democrat,” said Whit Ayers, another veteran GOP pollster. But Ayers argued that “a state-by-state analysis actually makes McCain a narrow favorite to win the Electoral College majority.”

“That would certainly run against the grain of history, if he pulled that off,” Ayers added. “But it’s also clearly plausible and a manageable outcome partly because of John McCain’s strength among independents and partly because of Obama’s weakness in culture, ideology and association.” [...]

Among the 10 strategists interviewed by Politico for this story, there was near-uniform belief that had any other Republican been nominated, the party’s prospects in November would be nil.

“No disrespect to the other candidates,” said GOP pollster Glen Bolger, “but if anyone else had been nominated we’d be toast.”

The case they make for a comfortable McCain win is not beyond reason. Begin with the 2004 electoral map. Add Iowa and Colorado to Obama’s side, since both are considered states Obama could pick off. Then count McCain victories in New Hampshire and Michigan, two states where McCain is competitive. In this scenario, McCain wins the Electoral College 291-246, a larger margin than Bush four years ago.

If Obama managed only to win Iowa from Republicans and McCain managed only to win Pennsylvania, McCain would still win by a much greater margin than Bush — 300-237.

Read the whole thing, and then offer your opinions to this shocking article.

Comments:

1) I dont' think it'll be a by Blazer

I dont' think it'll be a landside or a "blowout" but he will win easily. Pack your bags, socialism-lite, here we come.

2) John McCain is the only choice for America by ChiefE9

John McCain is the only choice for America. The other two are empty suits with socialist plans for America. John will make Homeland Security top priority. John is experienced, a war hero and POW. He has been there, done that.

3) Sarc by Noel Sheppard

Maybe that's why he'll do so well: in a year when the Republican brand is in the tank, moderate Dems and Inds will feel comfortable voting for him.

Something else to consider is the dirty little secret that was being spoken about some months ago, but has been hidden of late: Obama will be far worse for down-ticket Dems than Hillary.

A very liberal and astute friend of mine described it to me yesterday as follows: in many states around the nation, there are a far greater number of racist white Dems than Dems care to admit. The Clintons knew it, so did Ed Rendell. These folks will likely either vote for McCain, or sit out the election. If they do the latter, this is going to hurt Dems in closely-contested House and Senate races.

The other thing he mentioned was racism within labor unions. His contention was such negative emotions are prevalent there.

Add it all up, and although he'll vote for Obama if Hillary loses, he thinks McCain will beat the junior senator from Illinois, and possibly with a sizable coattail.

4) Well spoken Noel. Let's not by Blazer

Well spoken Noel. Let's not let those xenophobic Dems off the hook either, they contributed heavily during the time Shamnesty was on the table. That's why over 70 % of the nation was against it. How about those homophobic Dem's that made sure the marriage laws were passed in the blue and purple states ?

Heh,........... but us conservatives are the misogynists, the racists, the anti-semites, the homophobes, xenophobes and the fascist's.

5) CT by Noel Sheppard

To a certain extent, what was fascinating about my discussion with Ray yesterday was how open he was about the bipartisan nature of racism, as well as the multi-ethnic aspect. Most liberals think its only conservative white people that are racist, and won't dare admit that such negative emotions are also possessed by Democrats and blacks. Isn't that somewhat verboten in such circles?

6) Well Noel... I had two by Clear thinker

Well Noel...

I had two reasons for spouting off concerning the racism issue for the past few months. One... I truly believe it's what will put McCain over the top. Secondly... I am sick and tired of those on the left assuming that we conservatives are racist, and wanted to give them a taste of their own medicine.

Sit down and take a few minutes one day and list all the people you have known over your lifetime that you knew that were racist. Then look at how many of those people you would consider really conservative. I'm betting you will have a hard time recalling any of the conservatives ever using the "N" word, or having a racist opinion.

When I talk about racism on the left I am careful to seperate 'liberal' from 'Democrat ' because In my experience libs I have known are not racist, but many, many Dems are. Do you think this is true?

7) A Republican victory in November? by Jer

...there was near-uniform belief that had any other Republican been nominated, the party's prospects in November would be nil.

"no disrespect to the other candidates...but if anyone else had been nominated we'd be toast."

From my perspective as a Democrat, the above assessment conincides with my views on a possible, if not probable, November scenario. Never have I witnessed a politcial party in such profound disarray and generating such widespread disaffection among its members--and I am referring to the Republicans--yet, with the election less than six months away, still enjoying a very real chance of retaining the presidency.

For all the conservative hand-wringing over McCain, GOP polster Bolger is correct: No other candidate would have stood a chance. And for all the Democratic enthusiasm over Obama and Clinton, virtually any other candidate could have coasted to victory--regardless of whom the Republicans nominated. There are simply too many Democrats--like me--who would never vote to reinstall the Clintons in the White House. And too many other traditional Democratic blocs exhibiting a collective anxiety at the prospect of an Obama presidency. For many of these Democrats, McCain represents an acceptable alternative. Augmenting those voters are moderate Republicans, millions of independents, and "hold their nose" conservatives who could very well put McCain over the top.

So, take heart, the Supreme Court and federal judiciary will likely be packed with even more conservatives.

I still think the Dems are likely to retain Congressional control...although I believe the prospects of a veto-proof majority are less likely--despite recent Democrat successes in special elections held in traditionally GOP districts. I'm not so sure Democrat voters will stay home. I think they will turn out--but quite possibly in unusually large numbers for McCain.

Of course, with six months left, a lot could happen to force re-evaluations in either direction.

Jer

8) And I'm thinking that maybe by motherbelt

And I'm thinking that maybe for once they can't depend on all Dems biting the bullet. Some women just might be mad enough to not vote for Obama. Hell hath no fury like a feminist scorned...

9) "...if anyone else had been by Indiana Joe

"...if anyone else had been nominated we’d be toast.”

Not a big McCain fan, but I have to grudgingly agree with that assessment. I think McCain will pull more indies and cross-overs than anyone else could have. But he WILL lose some of the staunch conservatives who stay home as a "protest."

It's going to be interesting, to say the least.

10) There are 3 women in my by ThisnThat

There are 3 women in my family -- all democrats, no feminists -- that never vote Republican. In fact, one of them hardly votes at all. But they have all said they will never vote for Hillary or Obama. And, in fact, all 3 are passionate about voting this fall -- and all of them for McCain. They not only don't like Hillary and Obama -- they want to do whatever it takes to keep them from getting elected.

This is a small sample -- but I believe these small examples are being played out over and over again -- quietly -- across the nation. I think McCain is going to win bigtime.

___________________________________

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

11) I'm not a big fan of a lot of McCain's ideas by Jnoble

I'm not a big fan of a lot of McCain's ideas..on the environment and few other things. But put side by side with Obama, and ESPECIALLY on foreign policy, he's freakin' George Washington. McCain will not let Iran and the other idiot countries push us around. Obama is naive and arrogant as hell in that department.

12) It will be a landslide if . . . . by Gat New York

It will be a landslide if . . . .TheGOP and 527 groups do their job and simply replay Obama's own words (including his major flip-flops) as well as other Democrats words about him and his ridiculous views.

The election must be focused on experience and leadership. Obama has had a clear ride until now. Neither Hillary of Edwards had any real experience. And if you compared the Dem debates with the GOP debates it was comparing Romper Room (Dems) with a the Major Leagues (GOP).

If they do, then Obama will not win more than 105 electoral votes and it could get worse. Why?

1. White working class folk have heard enough from Obama.

2. Latinos - this is where McCains co-sponsorship with Ted kennedy will pay off for him - particularly in CA, FL, and NY.

3. About 50% of Jews won't vote for him but more importantly the major Jewish donors (minus LA-LA Land) will not support him and will probably support McCain.

4. The Democratic Party is split and a large bloc of Hillary voters will vote for McCain.

If Obama's poll numbers start reflecting a blow out before election day, turnout for Obama will be subdued including African Americans and young people.

13) It doesn't matter who is elected by jefflebowski

It doesn't matter who is elected, one way or the other we'll have a democrat as President for the next 4 years. Whether it will be a communist, socialist or just run of the mill democrat...the point is that we will move further to the left with bigger government, liberal judges, weaker defense, etc.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2008/05/24/mccain-wins-blowout-open-thread

-- May 26, 2008 11:09 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole and board - Do you remember me posting that the Lord said that He was putting a Democrat in the Whitehouse, but not Hillary or Obama?

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133692
QUOTE from February 12, 2008:

The Lord has continually told me He is putting a Democrat into the Whitehouse..
and no, not Hillary Clinton NOR Barak Obama.. soo.. who could that leave?
Only McCain.. who says he is a Republican but is not.

This last commentator on the last post said, "It doesn't matter who is elected, one way or the other we'll have a democrat as President for the next 4 years." Which is the truth. I also posted to you where John McCain was offered to be VP candidate for Kerry:

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_2.html#135008
QUOTE:

Truth: McCain was asked again in 2008 about his reported conversation with Kerry, and told The New York Times, “I mean it’s well known. Everybody knows, it’s been well chronicled a thousand times that John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.”

He is a Democrat.. and he will be President. But he is the best of the three candidates to choose from, and will have been a merciful choice over the other two when things begin to heat up.

Sara.

-- May 26, 2008 11:27 PM


NEIL wrote:

With the ensueing contest between Obama and McCain, most people (including liberals) are beginning to recognize that almost 100% of the blacks are voting for Obama which is voting along racial lines, and also recognizing that since they are white, maybe they should support someone who looks like them, they are turning to McCain.

This race should have never turned racial, but it has, and Obama did it. It now boils down to do you want to cast your vote for a black man who has 100% of the black vote and is dedicated to black interests or do you wnat to vote for someone who has the interest of the country first in his mind.

John McCain, although repugnent, has to be the one to get your vote.

The support that Obama has among blacks, indicates to me that all blacks are racists. Show me where I am wrong.

-- May 27, 2008 1:00 AM


Roger wrote:

Hi all,

Energy, and oil.

I worked on a hydrogen cell and still have it, more as a fun project.

In researching the subject I found out that there is a lot of "hoopla" around the hydrogen fuel.

First let me say this, water is not fuel.

It can be made into fuel and it is easy.

Basically, (and you can do this in your own kitchen) have a glass of water, put two spoons into it ( they can not touch) apply plus to one and minus to the other spoon,(Don't use AC current) and you will have hydrogen bubbling out of one side and oxygen bubbling out on the other side.

Theoretically you can then lead the hydrogen and the oxygen into a cars intake and you will get fuel.

Once the fuel is burned, the oxygen and hydrogen will go back to it's inert state as water. Water will then be the only by product.

The energy it takes to dissolve water into oxygen and hydrogen, is bigger than you will get back from it's later combustion. ( and especially in a car engine, that is only about 30% efficient)

However, as a fuel booster, the hydrogen cell works very well, as you can have hydrogen, and oxygen as a catalyst in the combustion process. Hydrogen and Oxygen called Hydrox, (some call it brown gas) have a flame front of over 10.000 Feet/second, and by introducing a small amount in the engine, you can retard the timing on an ordinary gasoline engine, and still get peak gas pressure at Top Dead Center, thus eliminating the back pressure in an upwards traveling piston as the slow burning gasoline is building up to peak pressure in a "normal" gasoline engine.

Pure Hydrogen burning cars are different, and it is a matter of getting the Hydrogen in quantity.

We could build a series of nuclear power plants that could generate the electricity for the making of Hydrogen.

Some people have now been able to pry apart Hydrogen and Oxygen, basically by applying ultrasound into the electrolysis. The method works, but is a bit controversial because the lead guys in the field right now denotes the causes to "out of the box" science, believe me, I have been on his blog site and been banned because I was challenging his statement that a hydrogen atom in a mono state had a filled electron layer and thus could exist without attracting another hydrogen atom, as a bi-atom.

He claimed that his research had produced particles that had certain properties, and when I claimed that those particles can't exist, because of an odd number of charges of the whole atom, he just banned me from the site, and claimed that I don't understand his "out of the box" science, and accused me of being "too entrenched" in "old science".

So there is a lot of conspiracy theories and weird science, made up by people that see Nikolas Tesla as a God, have invented Perpetuum Mobiles, have defeated gravity, and have tapped into all kind of energy sources that to this day not have one repeatable demonstration in public.

They're all "working on a prototype" or want to "keep it a secret", or are "in patenting process" or...or....

Anyhow, as long as the garage tinkerers are swept up in those websites, the Hydroxy will not take off, but you can easily build yourself a Hydroxy booster, and get much better fuel mileage, especially if you have a gasoliner, a diesel takes a cell that can produce a lot more hydroxy.

You can have a windmill that generates electricity that produces Hydrogen, a solar cell arrangement that produces Hydrogen and a lot more, if you want to go this way. It is actually not too bad of an idea, but the pure Hydrogen car is pretty far away.

As a fuel booster it is an excellent idea, but the websites are full of scams. One advertises how to set up a net work, like an multi level arrangement where you recruit new members, and they in turn recruit new, and so on. they advertise how to make a cell out of a jar, and some stainless steel wire.

That cell will make 15 ounces of gas a minute, mine did over 2 liter a minute, and that was a completely home made design. I have already now a design that will be in the vicinity of 4 liter a minute.

There is a lot to it, you have to regulate the cell, as it draws about 20 Amp, (that is about a 1/3 of a HP that the alternator will pull down the engine) at peak performance, and if you do a lot of stop and go, and sit and idle the car, and have the cell full blast, you will lose rather than win. No one that I am aware of have a regulator on the cell, but I don't know how much I want to dink around with that stuff.

I had my fun, and are moving on.

I can give you all a description on how to make a very simple cell, that will boost your fuel economy.

First some raw data you can use.

Per plate, don't apply more than 1.5volt, if you go over 2 volt you will just start boiling the electrolysis.

Don't apply more than 1 Amp to a plate area of 2 to 4 Square inches.

Don't use baking soda as catalyst, use KOH or SOH, ( lots of liquid plumber, drain openers have it)

Get Stainless Steel plates, (from an old sink) get a shop to cut up 9 plates the size of about 4 by 6 inches.

Sand the plates crosswise with a 50 or 35 sand paper.

Arrange the 9 plates so they are sitting in a stack ( without touching each other...plastic, PVC, Acrylic, Nylon whatever will do it) , like a stack of cards about 3 mm apart.

Mount that stack in a vessel, aquarium or whatever will fit in your car. PVC Pipe is good too. From the vessel, put a back valve, and a bubbler. Any gas that you are getting has to have a safety against a backfire, and the back valve and the bubbler will take care of that. from the bubbler, lead the gas hose to the cars air intake.

Apply 12 V to the stack, apply plus to ONE ENDPLATE, and minus to the other END PLATE only. The rest of the plates (Neutral or slave plates, not connected to any wire) will now be a galvanic vessel that in themselves will carry voltage through them, and in this way, you get down the plate voltage to under 2 V per plate.

Fill the vessel with distilled water.

Put a fuse holder to the cell, and put a 15 amp fuse in it. Fill up slowly with electrolysis, ( the drain opening stuff) until you blow the 15 Amp fuse. Don't fill up any more of the electrolysis, ( drain opening stuff) and leave it there, put a 20 Amp fuse in the fuse holder, if you start to blow that fuse, dilute the electrolysis, until the fuse holds.

In that way, you can build yourself a cell that reportedly will give 15 to 40 % better fuel economy. It is one of the simpler cells, and you should with this arrangement get about 1.5 maybe 1.8 liter a minute (check with a bucket of water, and fill a liter soda bottle with water and let the cell bubble into it, and in that way determine your speed of gas production)

You have now built yourself a cell that will outdo many commercial cells that are sold on the market. (lot of junk stuff out there)

If you want to refine it, and push on, you will be looking at cells that have separate electrolysis bath, are pulse, fed, and give various output according to the engines vacuum ( work load) but leave that for now, and build yourself a thingie that will just help you out a bit until the Dinars hit.


-- May 27, 2008 4:35 AM


Sara wrote:

Neil - You are not wrong. Obama's lack of US patriotism and his devotion to the black cause is embodied in the church he chose and the "God Damn America" pastor he sat under. The site for that church says it is Africa first, America second when it says in the About Us section online, We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. You cannot remain true to two different masters. Only one can have your allegiance. One must wonder if the "the mother continent" and American continental interests ever came into conflict, just where Obama's loyalties would lie. Can the country entrust the reigns of power to someone who is pledged to "remain true" to another country as their native land?
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Trinity United Church of Christ

About Us

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/sl-reprise-obamas-racist-us-hating-church

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NOTE:

10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”

Notice the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE to black leadership (above the pledge of allegiance to the country of America?), pledge to economically strengthen and support black institutions (and as President he would have a lot of money at his disposal to continue that pledge to strengthen and support black institutions), his personal commitment to the "black value system" and his "Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness". (If you are middleclass, do you find this at all offensive? What do you suppose he disavows which you hold to as a middleclass person? How would that be reflected in Whitehouse policy?)
Also notice this:

4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.

A NON-NEGOTIABLE commitment to Africa.. Over what.. the interests of US citizens? How deep is his commitment to Africa.. how deep to America? If they come in conflict.. how far does his "NON-NEGOTIABLE COMMITMENT" go? Obama and his family have been members of this church for years and they obviously agree with what this church is all about. For the good of America, Americans will have to vote for someone with the interests of the country at heart, not his race and the country of Africa.

Sara.

-- May 27, 2008 1:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger - Did you watch the youtube video.. and do you think this one, too.. is a scam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ERu9h9vIU

It does claim 100 miles on 4 ounces of water and says the military is building a hummer using this new technology, so are you thinking the US military is following a bunch of Kooks?

Sara.

-- May 27, 2008 1:14 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Hi, Roger, thanks for that. Very interesting. Right now, thanks to the high price of oil, there is an awful lot of money to be made, in the future, developing alternative energy. Research is starting to follow the money. There is a tremendous amount of work being done, in this area. I have been reading lately about modifying lifeforms, like bacteria and viruses, to make gasoline and diesel fuel. Silicon Valley billionaire Khosla is funding some interesting research, through companies like LS9. It turns out, nature makes several chemical compounds that are almost idential to what people use to power their cars. My guess is, the energy problems will be solved by modifying life forms. This is being applied to the tar sands in northern Alberta as well. Bacteria are being studied, which can be inserted into the tar sands, and change the chemical nature of the bitumen, so that it is more economical to extract. Nature already has all the answer, they just have to modified a bit. I don't know how long it will take, but the Age of Oil will come to an end, as will OPEC, and the power or radical, petro-dollar fuelled extremism. I'm not rich, I'm just fairly well off, but if the Dinar ever kicks in, which I think it will, I'm going to stick a lot of my money into alternative fuels, and power sources.

-- May 27, 2008 1:34 PM


Sara wrote:

Neil;

I quoted this man's article before. It speaks of "Obama’s plan to redistribute $845 billion of America’s wealth to Africa through the U.N. with his Global Poverty Act."

That is more than the entire Iraqi War has cost the US so far.. which is 500 billion at last count, see this news article - "Iraq invasion was "successful endeavour": Cheney where it says, quote "The Iraq war is a major issue in the U.S. presidential campaign. Entering its sixth year this week, it has cost the United States $500 billion. http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=40731

This is definitely making good on his commitment to strengthen and support the black community and institutions as well as his church commitment to Africa as their native land when they say, We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. That is quite a substantial amount of help to the motherland.. 845 BILLION dollars of US wealth.. isn't it?

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Obama's Cat Is Out Of The Bag And It Can't Be Put Back In
By JR Dieckmann
MichNews.com
Mar 17, 2008

There are many in the black community who believe as Wright and Obama do, and they will continue to support the candidate and want all the “free stuff” Obama is promising to deliver to them. They also support Obama’s plan to redistribute $845 billion of America’s wealth to Africa through the U.N. with his Global Poverty Act. But mostly, they believe that it is the evil white man who has kept them in poverty, and now Obama is somehow going to make them all rich on the White’s dime.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19725.shtml

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/03/dinar_discussio.html#134140

-- May 27, 2008 1:43 PM


Sara wrote:

Not the kind of stuff you read about in the Western media.. but if you could read Arabic you would find that Al Qaeda is discussing, "Why We Lost In Iraq"
QUOTE:

Al Qaeda Discusses "Why We Lost In Iraq"
May 27, 2008

Al Qaeda web sites are making a lot of noise about "why we lost in Iraq." Western intelligence agencies are fascinated by the statistics being posted in several of these Arab language sites. Not the kind of stuff you read about in the Western media. According to al Qaeda, their collapse in Iraq was steep and catastrophic. According to their stats, in late 2006, al Qaeda was responsible for 60 percent of the terrorist attacks, and nearly all the ones that involved killing a lot of civilians. The rest of the violence was carried out by Iraqi Sunni Arab groups, who were trying in vain to scare the Americans out of the country.

Today, al Qaeda has been shattered, with most of its leadership and foot soldiers dead, captured or moved from Iraq. As a result, al Qaeda attacks have declined more than 90 percent. Worse, most of their Iraqi Sunni Arab allies have turned on them, or simply quit. This "betrayal" is handled carefully on the terrorist web sites, for it is seen as shameful...

This defeat was not as sudden as it appeared to be, and some Islamic terrorist web sites have been discussing the problem for several years...

If you can read Arabic, you can easily find these pro-terrorism sites, and see for yourself how al Qaeda is trying to explain its own destruction to its remaining supporters. While it's common to assume the Information War has been going against the West, this was not the case when you checked with what was going on inside the enemy camp.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htiw/articles/20080527.aspx

-- May 27, 2008 2:08 PM


Sara wrote:

The terrorists, who are clearly losing in Iraq, are now rejecting the use of violence.. and that includes al-Qaida's architect:

The fact that al-Qaida's architect has changed his mind, Wright says, makes violence "harder to justify using that kind of thinking."

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Al-Qaida at War with Itself, Author Says
May 24, 2008 ·

Al-Qaida is at war. And not just against the West, but with itself, says Lawrence Wright, author of The Looming Tower, the definitive account of the terrorist organization and the road leading up to the attacks of Sept. 11.

"It's very profound in the radical edge of it," says Wright, who explores the ideological rift for an article in next week's New Yorker magazine. "Before, moderate Muslims have spoken out against violence in the name of Islam, but now radicals are doing the same thing. And what's fascinating is that they're attacking on two grounds: One is that [violence is] not practical because it hasn't achieved their purposes. And secondly, it's sinful. It is placing the souls of the people who commit this violence in great jeopardy."

Wright tells NPR's Guy Raz that the two players behind the rift are Ayman Al-Zawahiri, al-Qaida's No. 2 man, and Sayyed Imam Al-Sharif, also known as Dr. Fadl. Sharif, who wrote al-Qaida's manual for jihad training, recently released a manifesto refuting those principles.

The fact that al-Qaida's architect has changed his mind, Wright says, makes violence "harder to justify using that kind of thinking."

He says al-Qaida is unraveling in some respects.

"..They're clearly losing in Iraq. Their popularity all across the Muslim world is plummeting because Muslims are the main victims. And people are beginning to question the use of violence not only in the case of al-Qaida but even in resistance movements in Palestine."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90805085&ft=1&f=1001

-- May 27, 2008 5:18 PM


Sara wrote:

The Unraveling by Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank
The jihadist revolt against bin Laden.
Post Date Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Is Al Qaeda going to dissipate as a result of the criticism from its former mentors and allies? Despite the recent internal criticism, probably not in the short term. As one of us reported in The New Republic early last year, Al Qaeda, on the verge of defeat in 2002, has regrouped and is now able to launch significant terrorist operations in Europe ("Where You Bin?" January 29, 2007). And, last summer, U.S. intelligence agencies judged that Al Qaeda had "regenerated its [U.S.] Homeland attack capability" in Pakistan's tribal areas. Since then, Al Qaeda and the Taliban have only entrenched their position further, launching a record number of suicide attacks in Pakistan in the past year. Afghanistan, Algeria, and Iraq also saw record numbers of suicide attacks in 2007 (though the group's capabilities have deteriorated in Iraq of late). Meanwhile, Al Qaeda is still able to find recruits in the West. In November, Jonathan Evans, the head of Britain's domestic intelligence agency MI5, said that record numbers of U.K. residents are now supportive of Al Qaeda, with around 2,000 posing a "direct threat to national security and public safety." That means that Al Qaeda will threaten the United States and its allies for many years to come.

However, encoded in the DNA of apocalyptic jihadist groups like Al Qaeda are the seeds of their own long-term destruction: Their victims are often Muslim civilians; they don't offer a positive vision of the future (but rather the prospect of Taliban-style regimes from Morocco to Indonesia); they keep expanding their list of enemies, including any Muslim who doesn't precisely share their world view; and they seem incapable of becoming politically successful movements because their ideology prevents them from making the real-world compromises that would allow them to engage in genuine politics.

Which means that the repudiation of Al Qaeda's leaders by its former religious, military, and political guides will help hasten the implosion of the jihadist terrorist movement. As Churchill remarked after the battle of El Alamein in 1942, which he saw as turning the tide in World War II, "[T]his is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

Noman Benotman, bin Laden's Libyan former companion-in-arms, assesses that Al Qaeda's recent resurgence, which he says has been fueled by the Iraq war, will not last. "There may be a wave of violence right now, but ... in five years, Al Qaeda will be more isolated than ever. No one will give a toss about them." And, given the religio-ideological basis of Al Qaeda's jihad, the religious condemnation now being offered by scholars and fighters once close to the organization is arguably the most important development in stopping the group's spread since September 11. Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell tacitly acknowledged this in his yearly report to Congress in February, when he testified that, "Over the past year, a number of religious leaders and fellow extremists who once had significant influence with Al Qaeda have publicly criticized it and its affiliates for the use of violent tactics."

Most of these clerics and former militants, of course, have not suddenly switched to particularly progressive forms of Islam or fallen in love with the United States (all those we talked to saw the Iraqi insurgency as a defensive jihad), but their anti-Al Qaeda positions are making Americans safer. If this is a war of ideas, it is their ideas, not the West's, that matter. The U.S. government neither has the credibility nor the Islamic knowledge to effectively debate Al Qaeda's leaders, but the clerics and militants who have turned against them do. Juan Zarate, a former federal prosecutor and a key counterterrorism adviser to President Bush, acknowledged as much in a speech in April when he said, "These challenges from within Muslim communities and even extremist circles will be insurmountable at the end of the day for Al Qaeda."

These new critics, in concert with mainstream Muslim leaders, have created a powerful coalition countering Al Qaeda's ideology. According to Pew polls, support for Al Qaeda has been dropping around the Muslim world in recent years. The numbers supporting suicide bombings in Indonesia, Lebanon, and Bangladesh, for instance, have dropped by half or more in the last five years. In Saudi Arabia, only 10 percent now have a favorable view of Al Qaeda, according to a December poll by Terror Free Tomorrow, a Washington-based think tank. Following a wave of suicide attacks in Pakistan in the past year, support for suicide operations amongst Pakistanis has dropped to 9 percent (it was 33 percent five years ago), while favorable views of bin Laden in the North West Frontier Province of Pakistan, around where he is believed to be hiding, have plummeted to 4 percent from 70 percent since August 2007.

Unsurprisingly, Al Qaeda's leaders have been thrown on the defensive. In December, bin Laden released a tape that stressed that "the Muslim victims who fall during the operations against the infidel Crusaders ... are not the intended targets." Bin Laden warned the former mujahedin now turning on Al Qaeda that, whatever their track records as jihadists, they had now committed one of the "nullifiers of Islam," which is helping the "infidels against the Muslims."

Kamal El Helbawy, the Muslim Brotherhood leader who helped bring in moderates at the Finsbury Park mosque in London, believes that Al Qaeda's days may be numbered: "No government, no police force, is achieving what these [religious] scholars are achieving. To defeat terrorism, to convince the radicals ... you have to persuade them that theirs is not the path to paradise."

Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank are research fellows at New York University's Center on Law and Security. Peter Bergen is also a senior fellow at the New America Foundation and the author of The Osama Bin Laden I Know.

Comment:

Thank you, George Bush. As Osama himself has said, "when the people see a strong horse and a weak horse, they naturally gravitate toward the strong horse." America has proven that al-Qaeda was the weaker horse, and as this article has shown, radical Muslims are abandoning them in droves. Undoubtedly, there are those who claim that the complete battlefield defeat the U.S. military has inflicted on al-Queda in Iraq and Afghanistan has nothing to do with this, but they're being disingenuous. Does anyone doubt that if al-Qaeda had succeeded in pushing the Americans out of Iraq we'd be reading stories like this? Of course not, it's only because American forces have proven that military victory is not possible for the jihadis that they're now singing this new song. So, thank you George Bush, for defeating al-Qaeada in Iraq and forcing radical Muslims to consider more peaceful means of change.
DelD

http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=702bf6d5-a37a-4e3e-a491-fd72bf6a9da1

-- May 27, 2008 5:46 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


LEADING STORY

Iraqi Kurdish crude oil secretly sold to Iran, Turkey - website

Kurdistan Region crude oil has secretly been sold to Iran and Turkey through the Region's borders, Hawlati privately funded newspaper website reported.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:16 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bridge reconstruction reflects victory of good over evil, says Maliki 27/05/2008 17:47:00

Baghdad (NINA)- A ceremony was held Tuesday on the re-opening of Sarafiya bridge, attended by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and several government officials and MPs.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Erdogan promises to consider Iraq's water increase request 27/05/2008 16:55:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Minister of water resources Abdul-Latif Jamal Rasheed has handed Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan a letter from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, requesting increase in the water flow of River Euphrates. In a press release Tuesday.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:28 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Sadrists' accusations against Maliki for election purposes – UIC member

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Baghdad, 27 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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A key member of the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition said on Tuesday that accusations by Sadrist MPs against Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that he has violated the constitution are for election purposes.

"These accusations should be sent via justice not the media. Talking about these accusations in the media involve political and election purposes," UIC member Jalal al-Din al-Saghir told Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI).

Saghir urged the Sadrist bloc, or Iraqis loyal to Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr, to expound on these statements and whether they represent the bloc's views.

The Sadrists had said on Sunday that they would question Maliki over "his violation of the constitution and refusal to allow Sadrist bloc members to practice their religious rituals including the Friday prayers".
"We will work on questioning the prime minister in Parliament for his violation of the constitution and refusal to let the Sadrist bloc members to practice their religious rituals. Security forces bulldozed a fence of a court dedicated for the Friday prayers in Basra during the early hours of Sunday," Uqeil Abdul-Hussein told VOI.

Security forces on Friday banned the Muslim congregational prayers in al-Amil neighborhood, southern Baghdad, and the Iraqi port city of Basra, 590 km south of Baghdad, and shot rounds to disperse masses of worshippers.

Abdul-Hussein had threatened on Saturday that the bloc would adopt a "firm stand" if security forces banned Friday prayers in the mosques belonging to the bloc.

"We would use all legitimate legal and constitutional means available against whoever denies access to the next Friday prayers," he told VOI on the sidelines of a press conference in Baghdad on Saturday.

Abdul-Hussein called on the "cabinet, as the sponsor for the constitution, to respect the rights to perform prayers."

The Sadrists, who hold 30 out of a total 275 seats in the Iraqi Parliament, had quit the Maliki government, in which they used to occupy six ministerial posts, in April 2007 due to "the government's failure to come up with a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq."

Saghir indicated that as elections drawing near "a lot of rumors, lies and accusations will be running rampant," adding "no man with reason would accept hurling accusations without any evidence to sustain them."

"There are, however, some mosques functioning as hideout or caches for weapons, in addition to some places used to fire missiles that kill civilians and children," said Saghir, whose UIC is the largest bloc in the Iraqi parliament with 83 seats.

The local provincial councils elections are scheduled to be held on October 1.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Sadrists' accusations against Maliki for election purposes – UIC member

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Baghdad, 27 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)

A key member of the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition said on Tuesday that accusations by Sadrist MPs against Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that he has violated the constitution are for election purposes.

"These accusations should be sent via justice not the media. Talking about these accusations in the media involve political and election purposes," UIC member Jalal al-Din al-Saghir told Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI).

Saghir urged the Sadrist bloc, or Iraqis loyal to Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr, to expound on these statements and whether they represent the bloc's views.

The Sadrists had said on Sunday that they would question Maliki over "his violation of the constitution and refusal to allow Sadrist bloc members to practice their religious rituals including the Friday prayers".
"We will work on questioning the prime minister in Parliament for his violation of the constitution and refusal to let the Sadrist bloc members to practice their religious rituals. Security forces bulldozed a fence of a court dedicated for the Friday prayers in Basra during the early hours of Sunday," Uqeil Abdul-Hussein told VOI.

Security forces on Friday banned the Muslim congregational prayers in al-Amil neighborhood, southern Baghdad, and the Iraqi port city of Basra, 590 km south of Baghdad, and shot rounds to disperse masses of worshippers.

Abdul-Hussein had threatened on Saturday that the bloc would adopt a "firm stand" if security forces banned Friday prayers in the mosques belonging to the bloc.

"We would use all legitimate legal and constitutional means available against whoever denies access to the next Friday prayers," he told VOI on the sidelines of a press conference in Baghdad on Saturday.

Abdul-Hussein called on the "cabinet, as the sponsor for the constitution, to respect the rights to perform prayers."

The Sadrists, who hold 30 out of a total 275 seats in the Iraqi Parliament, had quit the Maliki government, in which they used to occupy six ministerial posts, in April 2007 due to "the government's failure to come up with a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq."

Saghir indicated that as elections drawing near "a lot of rumors, lies and accusations will be running rampant," adding "no man with reason would accept hurling accusations without any evidence to sustain them."

"There are, however, some mosques functioning as hideout or caches for weapons, in addition to some places used to fire missiles that kill civilians and children," said Saghir, whose UIC is the largest bloc in the Iraqi parliament with 83 seats.

The local provincial councils elections are scheduled to be held on October 1.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:41 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Muqtada al-Sadr urges demonstrations to protest long-term U.S.-Iraq agreement

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Baghdad, 27 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Young Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Tuesday for loyalists to stage weekly protests against a U.S.-Iraqi security deal currently under negotiation that could lead to a long-term U.S. troop presence.

“What comforted me are the oral and written edicts, fatwas, which forbid the agreement between the occupation forces of darkness and the Iraqi government,” a statement cited Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr as saying.

“It is necessary to take action rather than remain helpless,” he noted.

Sheikh Salah al-Ubaidi, al-Sadr’s aide, confirmed the statement and said “a recent fatwa issued by Ayatollah Kadhim al-Haeri was proclaimed inside Ayatollah Sistani’s office in Najaf.”

The outcry by al-Sadr could sharply heighten tensions over the proposed deal, which is supposed to be finalized by July to replace the current U.N. mandate governing U.S.-led troops in Iraq.

Al-Sadr is one of the most vocal opponents of the U.S. presence in Iraq. Mahdi Army militia loyal to the cleric have often battled U.S. and Iraqi forces. Many Iraqis have expressed concern over any final deal that involves permanent American bases.

Al-Sadr did not issue any specific guidelines for the planned demonstrations according to a statement issued by top Shiite religious officials. Any major marches, however, could put added strain on a tenuous truce between the Mahdi Army and the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki after weeks of battles that began in late March.

Al-Sadr's statement urged “Iraqis across the country to hold demonstrations every week after Friday prayers until further notice or until the agreement is canceled." He also urged politicians from all factions “to work against the agreement.”

He also demanded that “any agreement brokered with the U.S. be put to a popular referendum.” He vowed to “gather 1 million signatures rejecting the deal.”

(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:44 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Attacks Kill 24 in Afghanistan
May 27, 2008
Associated Press
Roadside bombings and insurgent attacks Tuesday killed 24 people in Afghanistan, including 13 police officers, while U.S.-led coalition operations killed several militants, officials said.

In southern Kandahar province, Taliban insurgents killed nine police in a two-pronged attack before dawn in Shorabak district, said provincial police chief Sayed Agha Saqib.

Insurgents first attacked a police checkpoint, killing five officers, Saqib said. Two roadside bombs then hit two vehicles carrying police reinforcements, killing four more officers and wounding three.

Another roadside bomb in Logar province, south of Kabul, killed four police, said deputy police chief Abdul Majid Latifi.

Militants regularly target the country's fledgling police force, which is seen as weaker than the better-trained and equipped Afghan army. At least 72 police officers were killed in insurgent ambushes and bombings in April alone.

More than 900 policemen were among the 8,000 people killed last year. The high death toll comes despite some $4 billion spent by the U.S. to train and equip the police in the last three years.

In western Farah province, a roadside bomb hit a bus Tuesday, killing eight civilians and wounding another, said Farah deputy governor Younus Rasuli. All the casualties were men.

The western Afghan provinces bordering Iran are frequently hit by insurgent attacks. Militant bomb attacks usually target military and police convoys, but civilians are often killed as well.

In Kandahar, a Taliban insurgent was planting a mine under a bridge in Daman district when it prematurely exploded, killing the insurgent and three children who were playing nearby, Saqib said.

In Logar, protesters blocked a road after foreign troops killed a cleric during an operation before dawn Tuesday, local leaders said.

Abdul Hakim Sulaimankhel, chief of Logar's provincial council, said foreign troops raided a house and killed a cleric in Pul-e Alam district. Four suspects were arrested.

He said 300 protesters carried the cleric's body to a main road and blocked it. They demanded that the suspects be released.

The U.S.-led coalition said it was not involved in the operation, and NATO officials did not immediately have details of the incident.

U.S.-led coalition troops, meanwhile, killed "several militants" Tuesday during two separate operations targeting insurgents in eastern Paktia province and southern Helmand province.

The forces discovered and destroyed several weapons in Paktia and a cache of narcotics in Helmand.

U.S. Marines moved into Garmser late last month and have been battling militants in almost daily battles ever since.

More than 1,200 people - mostly militants - have died in insurgency-related violence so far this year, according to a count by The Associated Press.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 7:52 PM


Sara wrote:

Last week Petraeus testified before a US Congressional committee about security in Iraq and warned that members of al-Qaeda based in Pakistan's tribal areas were planning a new September 11 attack.
There are fears that Bin Laden is planning new attacks on the west using Arabs but also Europeans who have converted to Islam.
US secret services were intending to drive him out in a major military operation encompassing the northern Pakistani tribal areas.

Let us pray that they will be successful in getting these terrorists.. and thwarting their attack on the West.

Sara.

===

Terrorism: Bin Laden in Pakistan's K2 mountains, says report

Dubai, 26 May (AKI) - (by Hamza Boccolini) - Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden is hiding in the K2 mountains of northern Pakistan, according to sources cited by Arabic television network, Al-Arabiya.

The report also said US secret services were intending to drive him out in a major military operation encompassing the northern Pakistani tribal areas.

According to the Dubai-based network, in the past few days US security and military officials had a top-level summit at a military base in the Qatari capital, Doha, to plan an operation to hunt for the al-Qaeda leader.

General David Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq and the US ambassador to Islamabad, Anne Petersen, were reported to have attended the summit.

Last week Petraeus testified before a US Congressional committee about security in Iraq and warned that members of al-Qaeda based in Pakistan's tribal areas were planning a new September 11 attack.

Reports say that the CIA has located the Saudi terrorist in so-called "rooftop of the world", the area of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan to the west, in particular the chain of mountains of Nurestan and China to the north.

There are fears that Bin Laden is planning new attacks on the west using Arabs but also Europeans who have converted to Islam.

The first victim in this strategy was Libyan Abu Laith al-Libi, al-Qaeda's number three, killed in a US air raid in January in Mir Ali, in Pakistan's tribal areas. Two Kuwaitis were also killed in the attack and a Libyan who was one of the group's leaders.

The US aircraft had targeted an al-Qaeda summit where al-Libi was meeting Abu Obeida Tawari al-Obeidi and Abu Adel al-Kuwaiti. Another Libyan leader, Abdel Ghaffar al-Darnawi, who was previously responsible for links in Iran before moving to the frontline in Afghanistan, was also at the meeting.

After that raid, Mansoor Dadullah, the brother of a senior pro-Taliban militant commander Mullah Dadullah, was seriously injured in a blitz by the Pakistani army in February in a village in Baluchistan where he was hiding with four other militants. He was then captured by Pakistani security forces.

A few days later, the Americans began fresh action launching Drones that killed 13 militants in Waziristan in northern Pakistan and 15 terrorists were killed in another raid on 14 May in the tribal region of Bajaur, on the Afghan border.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.2196750952

And Obama wants to DECREASE by TENS of BILLIONS.. all military.. ??
Think about it... and the ramifications of such a decision on this fight.

Sara.

-- May 27, 2008 7:58 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I do not know about you but in my part of the country gasoline is at $3.85 a gallon. The increase in oil prices to me seems to be another investment bubble that at some point will burst and come falling back down below or at $70.00 a barrel. Is the increase in prices at the pump related solely to supply and demand? I am not convinced either China or India is the reason why we are seeing an increase in oil.

At this stage in the Iraq war we all have seen the dems in congress call on Iraq to bear more financial responibility for reconstruction of their country. Instead of Iraq accessing the billions of dollars deposited in a New York bank account to pay for reconstruction the world wide increase in oil prices has brought a record windfall to Iraq. In fact the current budget of Iraq is based upon $56 a barrel oil. While we suffer higher oil prices, these higher oil prices benefits Iraq directly.

Regardless of our personal feelings about paying higher prices at the pump, these increases will benefit us indirectly. A stronger Iraq equals a stronger dinar. A stronger dinar means we have invested wisely in the Dinar.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 8:12 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

My point in the previous post is to accentuate the higher oil prices are contrived to directly benefit Iraq. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 27, 2008 8:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Mahdi Army losing support — or just losing power?
May 27, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The Los Angeles Times runs an interesting look at the popular reaction to the Iraqi Army’s mission in Sadr City. Tina Susman and Usama Redha report that Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia has rapidly lost support from the citizens of the Baghdad slum as a result of the fighting caused by the Nouri al-Maliki government’s push to establish sovereignty in the sector. However, one has to wonder whether that really represents a change of heart or the effects of liberating the territory from terrorists,
QUOTE:

Four summers ago, when militiamen loyal to hard-line Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr were battling U.S. forces in the holy city of Najaf, Mohammed Lami was among them.

“I had faith. I believed in something,” Lami said of his days hoisting a gun for Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia. “Now, I will never fight with them.”

Lami is no fan of U.S. troops, but after fleeing Baghdad’s Sadr City district with his family last month, when militiamen arrived on his street to plant a bomb, he is no fan of the Mahdi Army either. Nor are many others living in Sadr City, the 32-year-old said. Weeks of fighting between militiamen and Iraqi and U.S. forces, with residents caught in the middle, has chipped away at the Sadr movement’s grass-roots popularity, Lami said.

More than 1,000 people have died in Sadr City since fighting erupted in late March, and hospital and police officials say most have been civilians. As the violence continues, public tolerance for the Mahdi Army, and by association the Sadr movement, seems to be shifting toward the same sort of resentment once reserved for U.S. and Iraqi forces.

“People are fed up with them because of their extremism and the problems they are causing,” said Rafid Majid, a merchant in central Baghdad. Like many others interviewed across the capital, he said the good deeds the group performs no longer were enough to make up for the hardships endured by ordinary Iraqis who just want to go to work and keep their families safe.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mahdi27-2008may27,0,2392748.story

==end quote==

When the Mahdis first organized in Baghdad, they had some justification. They provided protection that neither the US nor the provisional Iraqi government could against Sunni terrorists and militias, including Ba’athist dead-enders and al-Qaeda in Iraq. They mobilized to defend Shi’ite neighborhoods and to inflict retribution on Sunnis as a deterrent. Their only early mistakes came in challenging the US forces in two separate campaigns, from both of which Sadr barely escaped with his forces in place.

Unfortunately, in Sadr City and Baghdad, the Mahdis began to run wild. Once they eliminated the external threat, the Mahdis transformed themselves into a hybrid of the Mafia and the Taliban. Protection rackets abounded and strict shari’a conditions were imposed — not so brutally as AQI enforcement of Islamic law in the West, perhaps, but harsh nonetheless. Sadr City and Basra residents had security, but at a high price, and that chafed as the rest of the country slowly emerged from internecine warfare and terrorism in 2007.

The LA Times now reports that the Mahdis have lost popular support because they have resisted the current operation to establish Baghdad’s authority on Sadr City. This feels like a chicken-egg argument. Even the anecdotes used by the reporters to make that argument sound more like the Mahdis lost popularity quite some time ago, but only with the Maliki push to displace the Mahdis have residents felt free to voice their dissent. The extremism didn’t start in March, for example, and neither did Mahdi interference with commerce and traffic.

What seems more likely is the dynamic we saw in Basra. No one dared to openly oppose the Mahdis while they kept a tight grip on the city, but as soon as that grip weakened, dissent flowered into defiance. People threw off the shackles of fear and oppression to welcome the Iraqi Army and began playing music and celebrating for the first time in years. As Sadr City gains confidence in Maliki’s tenacity and no longer fear retribution from the Mahdis, the people will defy them and lower-level functionaries will find better, more productive jobs.

Terrorists only get power from fear. Once that dissipates, they discover that they never had much support at all, and only the luckiest of them escape the fate of most terrorist oppressors: an abrupt end to life.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/27/mahdi-army-losing-support-or-just-losing-power/

-- May 27, 2008 8:22 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Contrived is a strong word, almost like a single person is responsible for the high price of oil. I don't think the market is dictated to - not even by politicians. But that it is WORKING OUT for the good of Iraq.. I see as the hand of God over the situation. HE, of course, is moving all the circumstances to allow this to be for the Iraqis good. We have invested wisely.. and Iraq is benefitting by Providence.. in many areas, as I have been posting. Iraq is seeing the defeat of the terrorists, and the emerging of a much more secure country. Wasn't that the only real barrier to the RV of the Dinar and the only real argument against the higher value of the Dinar.. the instability? This argues well for a better valuation of the Dinar and Iraq's good fortunes.. I see it as a true blessing from God. :)

Sara.

-- May 27, 2008 8:30 PM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

No that guy is not involved with those gooks I was talking about. This guy have taken the tech to where we want it.

The promise for Hydrogen is very great, but the energy needed to do a conversion from water, to gas, and then back to water is a negative, meaning, you have to invest more energy in that process than you can take out of it.

However, water in itself is very compact, and if you can energize it again into gas, you have a very compact source of fuel.

There are basically two main roads here, the first is the effort of making Hydrogen outside the vehicle, and that gives a lot of opportunity to use sun, wind, nuclear sources or whatever, to do the Hydrogen.

The down side with that, is tht once Hydrogen is made, it is taking up so much space to store it.

The second avenue here is to make hydrogen "on demand" meaning you bring water with you, and make the conversion in the vehicle, and use the Hydrogen as son as it is made. That takes very little space, and you don't need much storage for the water.

You can say that Hydrox, (Hydrogen and Oxygen, as a gas) is the energy state.

Then you can say that water, (also Hydrogen and Oxygen), is the waste product, the dead body, of the gas form, after it's combustion.

If you bring water with you, you must first bring life into a dead corpse, so to say.

Once you have separated Hydrogen and Oxygen from the water, you will get a volume of gas that is 1850 times bigger than the volume of water, so that shows that water in itself is very compact as a fuel ( well it is not really a fuel until we have kicked it back to life again as a gas) , and can easily be carried in a car, airplane truck or whatever.

One of the hurdles is the very low efficiency of the combustion engine, if we use the hydrogen solely to make a fire, and push down a piston. You get only 30% work out of that camp fire.

A more promising way is to use straight Hydrogen cells, the type NASA is using in their space missions ( Yes the one that blew up on Apollo 13), where the energy from the Hydrogen is converted straight into electricity, and then run an electric motor instead of a combustion engine in a vehicle.

Right now it seems that the making of Hydrogen outside of the vehicle is in the lead, but we just have to wait and se where the development takes us in the "in vehicle" , "on demand", Hydroxy systems.

That would be great, use distilled water instead of gasoline.

In the meanwhile, we can for fun dink around and make our own home made cells, they will help.

Anyone can for less than 100 bucks, (depending on scrap stuff availability, and work shop) build a decent effective Hydrogen fuel booster.

Either way, stuff like this have really came onto the front burner, as the oil price is racing towards the sky.

There is a rush to get smaller economy cars now, bigger SUV,s don't sell, and you can se them desperately trying to get sold, with "for sale" signs on them.

By some reason or the other, Detroit have always been to slow to react to the market, and must almost be held against a corner in the collar before they listen.

The smoggy cities we had in the 60's, had to be legislated about, before they took any action cleaning the exhaust.

The first oil crisis in the -70's, didn't change anything in Detroit, and they were again taken by surprise when people demanded high quality small, fuel efficient, compact cars, something that was not produced domestically.

Import cars seem to fit the need much better than domestic stuff, every time there is a change on the scene.

The trend kids have had, with mud monsters, raised big trucks with donut tires, drinking a huge amount of fuel, almost seem dumb now.

If the Iraqis finally get their pumps going the oil situation will be eased, but the shift towards energy efficient vehicles, light bulbs, and insulated houses, have by now taken such a big root that future vehicles and more efficient means of doing almost any energy consuming process, is at hand.

Iraq will be very well off with these oil prices, so in a sense this is good for us looking at it from an investment viewpoint.

For our own energy consumption, we just have to adjust.

We will adjust, but for many on this continent, it will be a very hard wheaning off the bottle.

Bicycles, mopeds, schooters and such, that just wasn't "cool" in the past, will get back in traffic.

We can't take the car to school picking up the kids no more, so the kids just have to learn how to take the school bus.

Eventually we will get around to using legs more, not waisting too much, and as a side benefit, we will be healthier.

It doesn't matter how much we recesitate that when we were kids we bought a gallon of gasoline for 25 cents, those days are gone.

Oil prices MAY come down, and I would appreciate that, but in the long run, they will continue to go up, and up only, as the demand is rising in the world,(China and India, as the new emergin markets) so there may be a brief comaback on SUV's if it is going down, but count in smaller efficient cars, and a pretty big incentive of making Hybrids, and alternative fuels.

(Alcohol as alternative fuel is just plain dumb, too little energy per volume, and too much farmland to produce it, it is better to have as priority ONE: -"Fill the stomach, before we fill the tank").

Iraq may be the one and only place that can save our bacon for a while, when the pumps are going, and keep the world rolling their wheels just a bit longer on the oil.

A second possibility may be that there will be a conflict with Iran, in the near future. If that happens, it is pretty sure that there will not just be a couple of cruise missiles hitting an industry complex somewhere, and that will be it, that regime has to be taken out, and that will leave Iran, as the second hedge, if their fields are developed and starts cranking out oil.

Saudi Arabia, have always in the past, been following the market, if there is more need, they have open the spiggots a bit more, but this time around, they may have other thoughts.

There might not be as much oil in Saudi Arabia left after all, and the Saudis are starting to suspect that this is the case, so they need to conserve their nations only resource as long as possible.

All in all, there is no need for an Einstein equation, the oil is in high demand, the oil is not available to meet the demand, we need to propel our vehicles with other means other than oil, so a sure long term bet in investment would be a serious project of your liking that deals with either fuel saving, or other ways to push our cars around.

Probably, if I can have a humble opinion in the matter, something that will bring electricity, Hydrogen fuel cells, solar cells, ways to store electricity better, ways to get better solar cells, figure out a "safe" (read ...something that the tree huggers will not scream about) small nuclear power plant, more efficient mass trasportation , less rolling resistance of tires, etc, etc, etc, will probably be the most efficient way to go about.

Those areas of technology will most probably be the ones that will excel, as they are the straight key to our future energy independence.

Investing in another bolt on gizmo, that will make our SUV use 4% less gas, if used with snake oil, will not solve anything.

-- May 27, 2008 9:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger wrote: "Sara, No that guy is not involved with those gooks I was talking about. This guy have taken the tech to where we want it. (end quote)

That is good, thanks! :)
I thought it was pretty excellent when I saw it, too.. it looks like a part of the answer to me. :)

That was all very interesting info you posted, and I agree with you on that last point very strongly -
only a 4% change in mileage is not going to be enough to cut the dependency syndrome we have.
We have to shoot for more. :)

Thanks for your reply and info/insights, Roger.
I appreciate it very much, Thanks.

Sara.

-- May 28, 2008 12:00 AM


Valerio wrote:

Sara,
One reason we're not seeing much hybird products from GM is because they are working on new vehicles that utilize HHO technology. Two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, yeah that's water, but in it's gaseous condition. This is going to be one of the factors of increasing efficiency, thus reducing demand for petro.

Neil,
Of coarse you haven't seen any benifits from Iraq yet. They are only now back to Saddam era production rates of 2.5 million bbp day. Wait until we see 4, then 6, then 8, then 10 million bbp day. This, along with the conservation lessons the world is learning, will bring down the price of oil, which in turn will force the other OPEC nations to turn up their own spigots to adjust to the decrease in income with increasing sales.

Timbits, Laura,
There is no way we can just simply not buy foreign oil anymore, because no matter what the alternative technologies are, it's not going to be cheaper than oil. The cost to produce 1 barrel of OPEC oil is less than $10 a barrel. They could sell it for $20 and still make money, and that would translate into $.89 a gallon for gas. Thats why we need to exhaust oil, and force it at the lowest possible cost. Lets force the price back down and enjoy that economic stimlous for another 50 fears while they feel the crunch of lower oil prices on their income. We will take advantage by reinvesting the savings into technology the world will be ready to and willing to buy.

Carol,
Where will all the money come from to make millions of people millions? Whats the big machine that can do it? Let me ask you this. When this war was started we were paying about $1.50 for a gallon of gas in the US. We now pay close to $4. We currently use around 400 million gals. of gas every day. So we are now paying about $2.50 extra per gal. of gas. That's about 1 billion dollars a day extra, and thats just the US. Where's the money going? We're paying it, so it has to be somewhere, but we know its not in our economy. It will probably never be $1.50 again, but when inflation of other products readjusts, it will be as though it was $1.50 a gal. again. This is just a part of where the money comes from.

-- May 28, 2008 3:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq heads toward reconstruction -VP

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Wednesday , 28 /05 /2008 Time 4:28:07




Baghdad, May 28, (VOI) – Iraq's Sunni Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi on Wednesday said that the country is heading toward a reconstruction campaign and a stage of new investments.

Al-Hashemi discussed with Jordanian Prime Minister Nader al-Dhahabi mutual relations and economic cooperation, according to a presidential statement that was received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI), quoting al-Hashemi during his meeting with the Jordanian premier.
Al-Hashemi invited Arab countries, particularly Iraq's neighbors, to invest in Iraq, the statement added.
"Today we are trying to dispel any Arab misunderstanding of the Iraqi issue and we call on Arab states to help us pass this stage…," al-Hashemi noted.
On Tuesday, al-Hashimi arrived in the Jordanian capital Amman on a four-day visit for talks with King Abdullah II of Jordan on boosting bilateral relations.
"Hashimi is scheduled to discuss some pending issues and is expected to meet with the Jordanian monarch and Prime Minister Nader al-Dhahabi," a media source from al-Hashemi's office told VOI yesterday.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 28, 2008 10:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

125 MW Electrical Generation Station for Hilla, Babylon

Technical officials from the ministry of electricity are gearing up to install a gas-powered electrical generating station with a capacity of 125 mega watts in Babylon.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 28, 2008 10:36 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi oil production records 2.5 mln bpd, exports two mln bpd

Power & Materials 5/28/2008 11:55:00 AM



CAIRO, May 28 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Minister of Oil unveiled in remarks published on Wednesday that the Iraqi production of oil recorded 2.5 million barrels per day and the daily exports of the crude reached two million barrels.
Hussein Al-Shahristani, in the remarks published by the Egyptian "Al-Ahram" daily, that Iraq benefited from the increase of oil prices on the international market, as the oil revenues amounted to USD 21.5 billion from January to April 2008. Al-Shahristani added, that this number exceeded projections by more than USD 10 billion, expecting that the export revenues would hike to USD 70 billion by the year-end.
He clarified, that the US was no longer the top importer of Iraqi oil as was the case during the era of the executed leader, Saddam Hussein, and that position became occupied by China and India.
Exported Iraq oil is distinguished with "the best price on the market and is sold without mediators," he said, adding that the Iraqi oil decision makers were against increasing the exports for the market was saturated with supplies.
Al-Shahristani said Iraq aims towards increasing production to three million bpd. (end) bna.asa KUNA 281155 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 28, 2008 10:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

While I do not deny that a providential God governs the affairs of men; it seems contrived that all the market forces including Opec's decision not increase production have come together giving Iraq the necessary income to carry on reconstruction.

Because of the record oil prices, the dems have become silent on reconstruction costs. Iraq has avoided using its money in a New York bank account. Now Iraq is beginning to export more oil. The Oil Minister is hoping for 3mpd in the future.

With security improving and Iraqi led reconstruction is underway now it is imperative the HCL is passed. The final piece will be the convertibility of the Dinar. I am sure the petro dinar will address this issue of convertibility. In my opinon, this is leading to a peaceful and prosperous Iraq.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 28, 2008 11:05 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

George Soros was on Canada's National News, the other day. Remember George? The multi-billionaire, critic of George Bush's Iraq invasion, left wing darling, author, financial genius? (I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but his financial accumen is undeniable)

George was saying the thought the price of oil was going to plunge, in the next few years. He thought the price was not in line with realistic projections of supply and demand. Now, George has a study group, watching and monitoring the oil production and financial structure of Iraq. And as it happens, the war is settling down, America is obviously winning, and the long range plans are obviously for Iraq to be another Saudi Arabia, and produce over 10 million barrels per day. At the same time, the American economy is slowing down, will use less oil, and all three presidential candidates appear, at least for now, to be serious about doing things to decrease American oil consumption. All of this means, in my opinion, that demand for oil, or at least the growth of demand for oil, will slow down, while supply will increase for several years.

So, I think George is right. I also am guessing the price of oil will fall significantly in the next few years. Now, this is NOT bad news for Iraq. In fact, it's good news. Iraq has the largest supply of cheap oil in the world. Even with security costs, Iraqi oil comes out of the ground at $3 a barrel. By contrast, oil in Alberta, my home province, comes out of the ground at a minium $30 a barrel, production cost. In addition, Alberta oil is 2nd grade oil, which means, it is not very good quality, which means it must be refined extensively, which means the market discounts Alberta crude by about $25 a barrel. All this means that to compete, and make a profit, on the world market, Alberta needs crude oil prices of at least $55 a barrel. (30+25) If the world price of crude oil falls to that level, Alberta is in trouble.

Iraq, with it's sweet light crude, is extremely high quality, and very cheap to produce. That means, if George Soros is right, and the price of crude declines sharply, in the next few years, producers of oil might leave higher cost places, like Alberta, and move to lower cost places, like Iraq. In fact, two Alberta companies I know of, have been in northern Iraq for years. One of the companies, in Iraq, was founded by the same guy who got the big recent Tar Sands oil boom going, in Northern Alberta.

So, I see Iraq as a win-win situation for us. If the price of oil stays high, (a possibility) then the world will eventually rush to Iraq, to develop that country, and the value of the Dinar will skyrocket, eventually. If the price of crude drops, (a slightly higher probibility) then the world will need to find and develop the cheapest form of available crude oil, which happens to be in Iraq, and the price of the Iraqi Dinar will skyrocket, and we will all benefit.

Another large factor to consider, is the lead time of production. When the price of oil goes up, it is a signal to the market to produce more of a given good or service. With oil, the lead time is 5-10 years. It takes a long time to look for oil, go through government regulations and hoops, and put together the necessary infrastructure to develop any potential oil. Oil has been expensive for a number of years, potential producers all around the world have been scrambling, putting together plans, and desperately looking for oil, for several years. Already, this is paying off. I recall that this year, there was one of the largest oil fields, ever discovered, off the coast of Brazil.

I have watched this same dynamic, with interest, locally, in the Calgary and Edmonton real estate markets, these past few years. Calgary is a city of 1 million people, and a dynamic, growing economy. The economy has been growing at a fairly good, but not spectacular pace for several decades. Then, the war in Iraq came. (Generally, I think war is a terrible thing, to be avoided, even though I did support this war, because I thought, all things considered, in the long run, a war with a middle eastern country, would lead to greater peace, in the long run of history.) Anyhow, I knew that the war would be good for the Alberta economy, and it was.

The economy here in Alberta took off like a rocket, with double digit growth. A lot of people wanted to move here, and they did. (and still are) That meant the price of real estate shot up an incredible amount. But it also meant that contractors, who built houses, to fill the new and increased demand, for additional housing, were caught flat footed. Like oil production, it takes a couple years, once the market signals are in place, to increase production of housing. That meant, for a while, there was a severe shortage of housing in Calgary. I remember, a couple of years back, in January, at the height of the recent boom, there were only a handful of houses available for sale. That meant to prices shot up, incredibly. (another factor at play here was that people are reluctant to sell their houses here, in January, since it's cold, and moving is difficult. that also reduced supply, which drove up prices)

So, anyway, since then, it has been about two years. And where is the Calgary market? Why, there's a glut of houses for sale on the market!! Builders responded to the signals, that a profit was to be made, and thousands of them went to work, building houses. Now, there are too many houses on the market. In fact, in Alberta's history, there has never been such a glut of housing on the market. Prices have dipped, about a 20% drop, since the height of the boom. Now, the Alberta economy depends, to a fair degree, on oil and gas. If George and I are right, and the price of oil drops, in the next few years, then the Alberta economy may take a nosedive. In which case, housing prices may take a plunge.

So, my point is, I have watched, firsthand, the forces of supply and demand in an economy. And I think the same thing will happen to oil and gas. I think the price of oil will drop, in the next few years, and it will be good for the Iraqi Dinar.

(I still think, over the long haul, over the next couple of decades, oil prices will stay high Most of the time, since the world is running out of cheap oil. So I think oil prices will bounce back, but I think there will be a few up and down bounces in price, along the way, as the interplay of the dynamics of supply/oversupply, and increases/decreases in demand, play out, in the economy, over time.)

This means, of course, that, as always, in investing, timing is critical. Buy low, sell high. We have bought the Iraqi Dinar at a very low price, which was a very wise decision. Now, we have to wait for a sell high price. I intend to sell it at a very dear price, once prices go up, and to wait patiently till the market figures out, what we already know, which is that the Iraqi Dinar is priced at a ridiculously low price. Then, the market will correct that mistake in perception, and we will all benefit, with an expensive Dinar.

-- May 28, 2008 11:57 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Just to add a couple of small clarifying points, I said, I knew the war would be good for the Alberta economy. (and it was) The reason it was good was that I thought the war would be a factor which would push up the price of crude oil, (which it did) At the higher price of crude oil, the vast Tar Sands, with huge amounts of oil, which have been well known for over a hundred years, finally became economical to develop. The infrastructure and costs to develop these resources, are absolutely enormous, and are only worth it, if oil is more than $60 a barrel. It was that increase, in the price of crude oil, that led to a massive expansion in the Tar Sands, that led to the boom in the Alberta Real Estate economy.

-- May 28, 2008 12:35 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Valerio,

I agree with your comments. The world should cooperate to develop existing oil resources, and help the price of oil to go down, so the world can enjoy cheap oil, for at least 50 more years. However, the world is running out of cheap oil, and probably out of oil itself, in the long run. (for a pessimistic view of this situation, and if you like scaring the crap out of yourself, try looking up dieoff.org, and read a bit in there.

Getting back to 50 year windows: The thing is, I am in my 40s now. Fifty years doesn't seem like such a long time now. It's almost within my lifetime. If the world, in fact, is running out of oil, then the situation is far more serious than people think. What that means is the world is kidding themselves if they think they can sit on their hands, and not get very serious about developing alternative forms of energy. Fifty years will come, very soon. I won't see that time, but my kids will, God willing. It has been over three decades since the first oil crisis. I remember it well. I was very young, but remember watchin it on the news. I had a good teacher at school who talked about it. It scared the crap out of me. Apparantly, it didn't scare the American government though. There has not been nearly enough attention paid to developing alternative energy resources, since that time, in my opinion. If America took the first oil crises seriously, they would have had 3 decades time, where they could have done the necessary scientific and technical work required to make some major breakthroughs, to eventually get off Arab oil.

And just waiting for the the market to look after this problem is not wise. I'm a believer in the markets, as forces to do good, but the market place also has it's limitations. The market doesn't think long term, enough. The market, right now, because the price of oil is high, is sending signals to people, to develop alternative energy. That's a good thing. The problem is, scientific problems sometimes take decades, not years, to work out. There is a mad scramble of research into alternative energy, right now, because the cost of energy is high. So, what happens if the price of energy fall, as I have predicted? Will funding for research, also plummet?

I hope not, because finding alternative energy sources, is not like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Enormous effort, over time, with sustained funding, will produce alternative energy sources to replace oil. Sporatic efforts won't. The government should realize this, and take this problem of energy a lot more seriously.

Like in the Bible, where there are good years, and lean years, wise kings and rulers take a greater, long term view, of the health and vitality of their countries, and prepare for unhappy eventualities.

-- May 28, 2008 1:04 PM


timbitts wrote:

that was me

-- May 28, 2008 1:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N. wrote: Sara, While I do not deny that a providential God governs the affairs of men; it seems contrived that all the market forces including Opec's decision not increase production have come together giving Iraq the necessary income to carry on reconstruction.

Rob, I was thinking about OPEC as not actually affecting the income of Iraq or the price of oil.. because Iraq's oil minister (among others) has said it does not:

===

Oil supply above demand, says Iraq
Reuters
Published: May 20, 2008,

Sharm Al Shaikh: Global oil supply is already higher than demand so more crude from the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) won't push prices down, Iraq's oil minister Hussain Al Shahristani said on Monday.

"There is more oil in the market than consumers want," Shahristani said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum. "What is driving up prices is an increase in speculative funds. An increase in production by Opec countries would not really change the scenario - it would not affect the price."

US crude traded at over $126 a barrel on Monday after hitting a peak near $128 on Friday. Under pressure from consuming nations hit hard by the oil price rally, Saudi Arabia said on Friday it would boost output by 300,000 barrels per day (bpd).

Iraq aims to boost total oil exports to 2.3 million bpd from two million bpd by the end of the year, Shahristani said. That would take oil exports to their highest level since before the US-led invasion in March 2003.

Gains would be made through "infrastructure improvement," he added. Basra exports in the south would rise 200,000 to 300,000 bpd from current levels of around 1.6 million bpd, while exports of Kirkuk oil in the north would rise around 100,000 bpd, he added.

Impact

Improved security has allowed Iraq to boost exports through its northern pipeline to Turkey since last summer. Shipments would reach 600,000 bpd by the end of the year from around 500,000 bpd now, Shahristani said.

Kirkuk exports would hit 600,000 bpd in June as work at Iraq's Baiji refinery will free up more oil for exports, the head of Iraq's State Oil Marketing Organisation (Somo) Falah Alamri said yesterday.

The export rate would drop after the refinery work but would improve again later, he said.

Iraq expected to sign a gas project deal with Royal Dutch Shell this summer, Shahristani said.

Under the terms of the deal, Shell would collect gas that is currently flared at Iraq's southern oilfields and supply it to local power plants. The remainder would be exported as liquefied natural gas (LNG), Shahristani said.

http://www.gulf-news.com/business/Oil_and_Gas/10214520.html

In this scenerio, Rob.. it is the many, many speculators that are in the market who are driving the price up, as Shahristani said. As you know, the market is very fickle and not subject to the whims of only a few. So rather than thinking of it as OPEC or a conspiracy of only a few easily influenced (or influential) people to manipulate the market.. I see it as the hand of the LORD over all these circumstances and people - all of which comes together to create the effect we are seeing.

God is over the "chaos" of the marketplace and moves within and over it (using men's own self-interest) in order to make an order.. which is at this point in time benefitting Iraq. We cannot predict what everyone will do in the market with any accuracy (or we would all be billionaires), but God can and does. Because He knows EVERY single thing going into that price rise or fall and the outcomes before they happen. We toss the dice and look to see where it will land. God, being Omniscient, KNOWS what the roll of the dice will end up being. He is actually over the decision from the beginning, and is able to see all the factors going into the toss (the angle, speed, rate of decent, friction at the point it hits the table, trajectory changes, etc), whereas we cannot. Simply put, He knows everything about it without interfering with our freewills. We toss the dice, but He knows what comes next. There are no unknowns for a God who is all-knowing (Omniscient). Remember the Scripture about God knowing even the number of hairs on your head at any given point in time? Do you know how many hairs you have on your head right now? But He does.
Mat 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

That is knowing things in a very great deal of detail, more detail than mankind can or does take into account. When we reach something as complicated as market forces, we cannot predict them, but God can and does because He sees the details. You remember the saying, "For want of a nail.. the war was lost?.. All for the want of a nail." So it is.. the tiny details, which God is able to see, can affect and change the outcome. Therefore, the price of oil is high.. not because of the contrivance of men, but because of God's Providence (though I admit He can and does use mankind and their freewills in bringing about the desired result or end). And you have to admit.. Iraq is benefitting from it, so it appears that God is favoring them right now with this windfall, while perhaps "punishing" America somewhat so she will see what He needs her to see.. that this is a very important topic which will affect the lives of everyday Americans and their pocketbooks. Perhaps America needs this helpful pointer.. to make the correct decision in November. And the Democrats cannot take away that lesson from their lives because they do not control the market. Every time the public pulls up to a pump to buy gas or pays their bills.. they will notice it. And that will indeed play into the Presidential race. It will be just one more factor pointing out to them the rightness of a decision to help Iraq become a stable democracy and friendly supplier to Americans. Helping them to see the need for McCain to win.. for American good (their pocketbooks), but also so that Iraqi lives are not lost needlessly in a precipitous pullout. Again.. I see it all working together as God wills for GOOD - for Iraq, America, and our investment in the Dinar. (Chances are you agree with me with most of this since you see His Providence already, I just thought it worth pointing out, not contending with you on it, just making a statement of how I view that Providence we see does exist.)

It is my belief that when people see things as being contrived by man instead of orchestrated by God (no reflection on you, Rob, just in general), that they get into conspiracy theories. 911 wasn't an "inside job", but those who see and just KNOW there is a greater intelligence behind it will never admit that, because they see the hand of Providence and want to bring someone to account for it. They are falsely accusing men of what God (in His Providence) allowed to happen. As another post said recently, I think it was Valerio's post.. America was asleep and this was too important to miss. America HAD to act.. so Providentially, she.. had to. As, unfortunately, she will have to be prompted again to a clearer understanding about what she must do in the near future. Because apparently she is listening to the wrong voices and heading (like stubborn children) in the wrong direction. I wish it didn't have to be.. but as Carole said, I think God would have to apologise to Sodom and Gomorrah if he let things go on too much longer in the direction they are going. And McCain being in the Whitehouse at the time means many will not die under his Presidency that would have died under Obama - because McCain has greater wisdom and experience in all the areas necessary to handle such a catastrophic crisis. But wouldn't it have been better for America to have listened and made right decisions in the first place? But she does not.. (notice the recent decision concerning marriage in California, Carole?) hence there really is no other choice (from the heavenly perspective). Willing obedience is so much more to be preferred.. but how much willing obedience to God do you see when you look at America? THAT will change.

Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

Rom 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached you fell on me.

What reproaches fell on Jesus.. and what did He have to pay for sin? Without repentance and willing obedience, America too must pay.. for her sins.

Sara.

-- May 28, 2008 1:12 PM


Sara wrote:

New Vets for Freedom ad: When are you going to meet with Petraeus, Obama?
May 28, 2008
by Allahpundit

Not as pointed as the first ad, which wondered why he won’t meet with military commanders but will meet with any degenerate who can call himself a head of state, but the basic point remains.

SEE: When are you going to meet with Petraeus, Obama? @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm8JTrv-BKs

Fearless prediction: Obama will ultimately meet with Petraeus before the election. (See url below for more on why.)

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/28/new-vets-for-freedom-ad-when-are-you-going-to-meet-with-petraeus-obama/

-- May 28, 2008 2:24 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Neil - worth a read:

The Crime of Being White
By Selwyn Duke
MichNews.com
May 28, 2008

Just recently I wrote a piece about Keith John Sampson, a college student who was charged with “racial harassment” for reading an anti-Ku Klux Klan book. Not surprisingly, the article evoked a great response, including emails from those with their own stories to tell about persecution inspired by what I will call caucaphobia. A couple of these accounts are so compelling – compared to one even Sampson’s problems pale – that I’ve decided to publish them in this piece (both readers allowed me to use their names; their correspondence has been edited for punctuation, grammar and style). These are the stories the mainstream media won’t tell, straight from the front lines of the culture war. They give voice to a persecution whose name most dare not utter.

First we have Mr. David Gonzalez of Illinois. He wrote:

Dear Mr. Duke,

I can empathize with Mr. Sampson. I've been through the same sort of ordeal. After retiring from the U.S. Navy, I accepted a position with Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry as its Manager of Safety (I'm a safety engineer). After four years there, a female (black-militant) employee noticed my tie bar (Celtic knot-work with the emblem of my Celtic family – despite my Iberian surname, gained by being adopted, my genetic heritage is Scot/Irish) and asked me what it was. Stupidly, I responded, ‘This? Oh, it’s just my clan badge [referring to the Scottish clan from which he was descended].’

I'll leave it to you to guess what ensued. I'll tell you this: by the next morning, the rumor that I had been ‘outed’ as a Klansman had spread, like wildfire, through the ranks of the museum’s black employees (~ 60%). Two security officers frog-marched me out of a class I had been teaching (with every black person in the room glaring at me, with utter loathing!) and escorted me to my boss’s office – there to be grilled by him. Later in the day, I was called back in and fired from my position.

As I said, I can empathize.

===

Note that the very people who tout multiculturalism, ethnic sensitivity and tolerance violated the tenets of all three in their names. Not only was no respect shown for Mr. Gonzalez’ display of ethnicity, but he was actually punished for it. That’s what happens when you have the “wrong” ethnic heritage.

But the hypocrisy doesn’t end there. Despite the fact that one of the main links at the museum’s website is labeled “education,” management made no attempt to educate employees who were obviously too ignorant to know what a Scottish clan is and too bigoted to listen to reason. Instead, because of caucaphobia and/or cowardice, Gonzalez’ boss listened to the mob that preferred Barabbas and crucified a good man.

(For lengthy second story, see link below)

Unbelievable, isn’t it? It’s a story so outrageous that if the mainstream media actually did their job, Mr. Reese would be on 60 Minutes. Just imagine, a young man pays a pretty penny to attend a university, with dreams of bettering himself. Then, using as a pretext a loose comment no different from millions of others students make every day, the caucaphobic institution that took his money embarks upon a racial conspiracy to destroy him.

And these stories – Sampson’s, the two here, the Duke lacrosse witch hunt – are simply those we hear about. For every one of them, how many never see the light of media exposure?

Moreover, if America continues on its present course, the thought-police predators who lurk on college campuses will extend their hunting grounds beyond the academy. In Europe, Canada and elsewhere, hate-speech laws have already empowered such scoundrels in the wider society. Thus, should we visit such laws on ourselves by continuing to elect leftists, you may one day find yourself at the mercy of a statist bureaucrat, a far lesser person who at best will be a mindless cog in the machinery of government, at worst a vindictive social engineer bent on your destruction. He will have more hatred than brains, more hubris than humanity, and more power than you. Then you will have your own story to tell.

The only question is whether there will be anyone left to tell it to.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20343.shtml

-- May 28, 2008 4:30 PM


Sara wrote:

Surprisingly – you'd never hear this emphasized by the MSM – only 18 to 20 percent of Americans consistently say we should remove our troops now.

===

McCain takes Obama to school on Iraq
May 27, 2008
David Limbaugh

Yesterday, John McCain wisely urged Barack Obama to join him in visiting Iraq, something Obama hasn't done since 2006, when he declared the war lost. This is exactly what McCain ought to be doing: taking it to Obama on an issue that appears to favor Obama but in reality favors McCain.

In thrashing President Bush over Iraq since before we invaded, the mainstream media and the Democratic Party have succeeded in convincing much of the public that the war is a failure and that we must withdraw immediately. The propaganda effort has been so relentless that this perception remains to a great extent, even after the dramatic turnaround occasioned by the surge. But this is primarily because the media do their best to suppress any good news coming out of Iraq.

According to Karlyn Bowman, a public opinion researcher at American Enterprise Institute, while polls indicate a majority of Americans believe the war in Iraq was a mistake (also thanks to the Dems and the MSM), they also believe substantial progress has been made because of the surge. Surprisingly – you'd never hear this emphasized by the MSM – only 18 to 20 percent of Americans consistently say we should remove our troops now.

A Quinnipiac University poll conducted May 8-12 basically validates Bowman, saying 22 percent believe we should withdraw ASAP, compared to 48 percent who believe we should set a timetable and 28 percent who insist we should keep troops there as long as needed.

Admittedly, different polls show different results, largely because of the wording of the questions. An ABC News/Washington Post poll, for example, asked, "Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties?" It's not surprising that only 41 percent answered yes because respondents, in order to answer affirmatively, were forced to say they favored a scenario that would lead to American casualties.

Can you imagine what public opinion would look like if the MSM were closer to neutrality on this issue and the Democratic Party were dedicated to the long-term best interests of the United States instead of its own partisan aggrandizement?

But even with the propaganda against the war and in favor of immediate withdrawal, a significant majority of Americans understand we do have a major stake in Iraq and that you can't precipitously withdraw without negative consequences.

These mixed poll results show at the very least that a significant number of Americans are open-minded and receptive to the notion that our national interest demands we remain there until we establish substantial order and that Iraqi security forces be able to maintain that order upon our withdrawal.

It's gratifying that John McCain is willing to make that case. He needs to make it every day, unapologetically, and smoke out Obama and the Democrats on their reckless recommendation that we withdraw immediately irrespective of the consequences.

The problem for Obama and Democrats on Iraq is that their worldview doesn't permit them to view Iraq favorably, facts be damned, because they don't believe in the mission, and they don't understand we are truly fighting our enemy in Iraq.

Iraq – as al-Qaida makes clear every day – is the primary battleground in the war on terror, and we are defeating al-Qaida there as we speak. Obama and company insist against reality that for all practical purposes, our enemy is focused solely in Afghanistan, presumably because the 9/11 hijackers trained there.

Obama, for example, has made clear that withdrawing from Iraq will "make the American people safer" and that he would institute an immediate withdrawal, even if our commanders on the ground tell him such a course would be disastrous.

This unspeakably arrogant position is embarrassingly wrongheaded, and McCain must continue to articulate that our effort in Iraq is central to our successful prosecution of the war. Indeed, it's difficult to understand how reasonable people can divorce one from the other – yet the entire Democratic Party and the MSM do so routinely.

As others have noted, with his current gaffe-per-day performance, Obama is revealing himself to be quite the neophyte on foreign policy. John McCain needs to fix on and exploit that weakness and, conversely, showcase his own strength in this area.

McCain's tough and direct statement that Obama "really has no experience or knowledge or judgment about the issue of Iraq, and he has wanted to surrender for a long time" is a refreshingly promising start and one he ought to build on through November. Ultimately, America's security depends on it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65454

-- May 28, 2008 6:56 PM


NEIL wrote:

Tim Bitts:

I, too, am delighted to have you back sharing your insight of the Iraqi situation and the oil delimna, and your take on the presidential race.

I am baffled by the huge increase in oil prices. Nothing has taken place to cause such a jump. Sure, the demand with China and India has gone up but as the Saudia Aribia Prince to Mr. Bush. There is no shortage of oil and if you are willing to pay the price, then there is an abundant supply. I tend to agree with that as I have seen no indication of a shortage.

The solution as I see it is to continue developing the electric auto, use windmills to help with electricity, continue to produce the hybrid auto, us nuclear energy whenever possible and most of all to develop the hydrogen fuel that Roger has educated us on.

We have got to (for the present time) go after any and every source of energy such as drilling offshore wherever it seems promising and reaping the oil in Prudoe Bay in Alaska. To hell with the pristine environment and the fate of the Caribu. Let's do what is necessary to survive and once we get that under control, then let's start looking out for preserving a nature that noone ever sees and a caribu that noone gives a damn about.

I believe that we are approaching an era where we have to go back to basics and let our survival instincts dictate our actions.

-- May 28, 2008 11:33 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,
I don't know if I am understanding you correctly.
The "good" that God promises to do has conditions. In fact I ave never found in scripture where a Promise does not have a condition.
Romans 8:28"....God causes all things to work together for good TO THOSE WHO LOVE GOD and called according to HIS PURPOSE."

At one time this nation loved and sought after God....not so anymore, in fact quite the opposite, so do your really think we should depend on our outcomes to be good....coming from God?

Please clarify,
Thanks
Carole

-- May 29, 2008 9:26 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

I was mortified to read a poll results that showed an overwhelmiing majority of Californians aproved of same sex marriage! I would have bet money on quite the opposite........woe unto us here in California! Please pray for God's mercy.

Carole

-- May 29, 2008 9:29 AM


Carole wrote:

All,

Does anyone agree with me that Jimmy Carter should be charged with acts of treason? He has violated his oath of office, even though retired from Commander in Chief, he is obviously revealing Presidential secrets that have now put America in harms way.
Can he be stopped?

Carole

-- May 29, 2008 9:38 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

To Clarify:

In history, all things.. that is.. ALL THINGS are being worked together for the purpose of God and the good of "those who love God and are called according to His purpose." All things... even disasters and wars. Do you remember Elijah who said that he alone was left on the earth serving God and everyone else was apostate? What was the answer of God to him? That there were thousands of others who also served Him. (1Kings 19:18) In the same way, when you say, "At one time this nation loved and sought after God....not so anymore, in fact quite the opposite.." I must disagree. If only TEN righteous were needed to spare the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, then I think there are many American cities who meet that standard. When you find statistics like the one yesterday which I posted which said, "Surprisingly – you'd never hear this emphasized by the MSM – only 18 to 20 percent of Americans consistently say we should remove our troops now." You realize that the American people are not stupid, though they are being misled by the MSM in many ways.. and that to their detriment. I also quoted a poll which has results which say:

- 62% of voters would prefer fewer government services with lower taxes.

- most adults (56%) are worried that the next president will raise taxes too much.

- Sixty-two percent (62%) of voters think American society is generally fair and decent.

- Three quarters of voters (75%) think people who move to America from other countries should adopt the nation’s culture.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_2.html#134966

There are also many OTHER views which the American public holds which they are not standing up for.. including beliefs about God and morality. So in answer to your question, "so do your really think we should depend on our outcomes to be good....coming from God?"

I ask you.. from what other Hand can we look to for good, but Him?
QUOTE (bracket mine):

Jer 2:28 But where are your gods that you have made for yourself? let them arise, if they can save you in the time of your trouble: for according to the number of your cities, so are your gods...
Jer 2:29 Why will you plead with Me? You all have transgressed against Me, says the LORD.
Jer 2:30 In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction: your own sword has devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.
Jer 2:31 O generation, see the word of the LORD. Have I been a wilderness to (you)? a land of darkness? why do My people say, We are lords; we will come no more to You?

As this shows, when people turn from God, and come no more to Him, He will remove His hand of protection from them and allow them "trouble", which includes "smiting" of their children (death). When that time of trouble happens, the people cry out to God in horror, but often not with true repentance. This happened on 911. God replies to them that the reason they have these troubles is because they have trangressed against HIM and HIS LAWS. This vote in California is not against men.. or for human rights.. it is seen by God as flaunting HIS LAWS, and He does repay those who sin against Him. He laments in this Scripture that He has SMITTEN (allowed to be killed) your children (like on 911) but that the people "received no correction." They stopped up their ears and would not hear those who speak from Him (His prophets). For a time (on 911) the people of America asked if God was angry and if there was any reason to be fearful, but the church, who (by and large) is worshipping idols, said it was not God, but an act of man. They would not see that God allowed this to happen to turn America to Himself in repentance for her sins. God then asks if He has been a wilderness to the people when they DID turn to Him and seek Him? What is the reason they have chosen to turn from Him to that which does not satisfy (idolatry), when it is He who is the water for our thirst and the food for our hungry souls? He does not force our obedience as a nation, but if we turn from Him.. then WHY do we do so? Is the fault on God's side? Has He been wicked?

Of course not.

God is not wicked, and He has been very VERY longsuffering toward America for her sins. Like Myanmar, who killed THOUSANDS of VILLAGES full of Christians over a period of ten years.. God did not smite that country right away. Not after the first village.. or the second.. or the third.. or the fourth.. He waited for THREE THOUSAND whole villages to be utterly destroyed and for the people to repent.. before He allowed their sins to be visited upon them in "troubles".
QUOTE:

Burma,[1] officially the Union of Myanmar

Main article: Religion in Burma
Many religions are practiced in Burma and religious edifices and religious orders have been in existence for many years and religious festivals can be held on a grand scale. The Christian and Muslim populations do, however, face religious persecution and it is hard, if not impossible, for non-Buddhists to join the army or get government jobs, the main route to success in the country.[164] Such persecution and targeting of civilians is particularly notable in Eastern Burma, where over 3000 villages have been destroyed in the past ten years.[165][166][167]

Eighty-nine percent of the population embraces Buddhism (mostly Theravada), but other religions can be practised freely. Four percent of the population practices Christianity; 4 percent, Islam; 1 percent, traditional animistic beliefs; and 2 percent follow other religions, including Mahayana Buddhism, Hinduism, Chinese religions and the Bahá'í religion.[168][169][170]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma#Religion

This cyclone was not a freak act of nature. It was (as the insurance policies put it) an act of God. And if the people had SEEN it as an act of God and REPENTED, then God would have let the aid get through to them quickly by moving on the hearts of the leaders of that country. But instead, the leaders were filled with fear and did not allow the people the aid they so desperately needed. The provision did not get through like it should have because the people did not repent so God's hand of protection was not upon them to spare their lives and bring them aid.

America faces this same scenerio. Her sins have come up before God. He has been patient.. and waited for her to follow Him and not flaunt His moral law. They are in rebellion to heaven and He will remove His hand of protection and allow "trouble" to come to her - the terrorists to smite her - and America has the smarts to see the hand of God and TURN TO HIM, unlike Myanmar. This is apparently the only way America can learn. She will not learn beforehand and stop following and allowing sin. So He will allow "troubles" to come up against her.. to bring her to her knees. And that.. will be for the GOOD.

Again, to answer your question, "so do your really think we should depend on our outcomes to be good....coming from God?"

ABSOLUTELY. I am depending on America to have the common sense and Grace of God to see the hand of God and repent. She hasn't yet done so.. but she must and will. God is not through with America. She will have so many of the anti-God voices swept away in death, and she will be looking and given the discernment to hear the right answers this time and turn to God. The outcome will be good.. for God and the re-establishment of the nation. Under President Bush there will be no attack on US soil, but that is not so for the next Administration... because America's time is almost up and she is refusing to hear and turn from what God says is evil. God will have her to repent.. and if she will not do so in peace and prosperity.. there will be "troubles" such as war, death and poverty to drive her to her knees. (California is on a fault line - isn't it? Hmmmm... ) Mankind is not able to ignore God. It only seems that way to those who do not see and go on in their sins thinking that they will be allowed to sin always. Myanmar did it for three thousand villages over ten years, thinking God was looking the other way. And as with the Biblical example of Sodom and Gomorrah.. we as Christians should know that God will put an end to sin - one way or another, eventually.

Therefore, we should depend on the outcome to be for the good.. as even His hand of Judgement is for good... if we learn from it and turn to Him who smites us. If we were a people who did not turn to Him who smites us (in repentance), then we would not be established and it would be the end of America, as the enemy wishes. But it will not be so because there are so many who ARE His people and will listen when He speaks to them so clearly.

As CS Lewis said, "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts to us in our pain."

America hasn't listened to the whispers.. nor to God when He has spoken. He will soon shout to us in our pain.. as that appears to be the only way she will listen and repent of her disobedience to His laws. Remember, this was a nation founded "under God" with "in God we trust" on the coinage and in the song "God Bless America" the people of America have sung to the Lord asking Him to "guide her with the light from above". That light has been given, and refused. What is left for God to do but remove His hand of protection and then ask the people..

Jer 2:28 But where are your gods that you have made for yourself? let them arise, if they can save you in the time of your trouble
Jer 2:29 Why will you plead with Me? You all have transgressed against Me, says the LORD.

America will see it then.. and turn to God. They will "get it" when the lesson is written large upon their hearts in pain by their enemies. They will turn to God for wisdom and for protection. And God, as He always has, will not be a wilderness to them, but will answer them and give them peace, safety and victory. There is no substitute for victory.

In war there is no substitute for victory. --Douglas Macarthur.

Like in the first and second World Wars.. that does not mean victory will be easy. But when America has her relationship right with God again as a nation, there will be victory over the enemy, peace and prosperity for the land, and life to our children. There is no other way. To turn from God is to go into darkness forever. When you say, "so do your really think we should depend on our outcomes to be good....coming from God?" I ask you.. where else can we depend on the outcome being for God.. EXCEPT by looking to God?

Do you then say that America should look to idols to make our way blessed? Should we turn from Him and call down even more curses on our heads by His removing His hand of protection even further? To NOT depend on God in the situation is sheer folly. We MUST turn to Him that smites us (takes His hand away and allows the enemy to kill, as He did on 911). To not do so is to invite further attack by the enemy. If we had turned to God at 911.. He would not now be saying He will send upon America even more. He has shown in Iraq that we can win against the enemy. But America is running out from under His hand of protection by serving other gods and other laws than His.

In the short term.. it is a dire situation. In the long term.. for those who remain AND REPENT.. there will be good. Do you know what turned the tide in WWII?? Prayer. People turning to God. It will be the same in this scenerio.
QUOTE:

Well, that is the predicament in which Britain and France found themselves on May 24, 1940. A half-million of their soldiers huddled hopelessly at Dunkirk, waiting for inevitable death or imprisonment. It was at that desperate moment that the churches in Britain called for a national day of prayer. It had been suggested during April, but the Archbishop of Canterbury had opposed it. He said he didn’t want the call to prayer to be misinterpreted, whatever that meant. But with the alarming deterioration of the military situation in France, he and many others decided that it was, indeed, time to pray. On May 23, numerous political leaders, newspaper editors and King George VI issued a call for a national day of prayer to be held on Sunday, May 26.

No one could have anticipated what was to happen during those three momentous days. Just 24 hours after the call for prayer, Adolf Hitler inexplicably ordered his armies to halt, to the surprise and dismay of even his own generals. Two days later, on May 26, the nation gathered to pray. Church attendance skyrocketed, including a large gathering at Westminster Abbey, during which people pleaded with the Almighty to spare their husbands, sons and fathers at Dunkirk.

Former Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain wrote this in his diary: "May 26. Blackest day of all ... This was the National Day of Prayer." In reality, it turned out to be one of the most dramatic turning points of the war. At seven o’clock that evening, a critical order was issued to attempt a desperate evacuation of Dunkirk. Every tiny vessel and private craft was sent across the often treacherous waters of the English Channel with orders to rescue as many men as possible before the arrival of the Germans.

Hitler’s armies remained largely in place not only on the 24th, 25th and 26th, but, incredibly, until early June. To this day, no one knows exactly why. The Fuhrer held victory in the palm of his hand, and yet he prevented his combat troops from finishing the job. Some have speculated that Hitler didn’t want to risk unnecessary losses in a final battle. Others think Hermann Goering prevailed upon Hitler to let his Luftwaffe get the credit for destroying the British and French armies. As for Hitler’s own view, he said he wanted to give Churchill "a sporting chance." Yeah, sure. The bloody dictator never gave anyone a sporting chance. There is a more valid explanation. His armies were halted by the same God who shut the mouths of the lions during Daniel’s night of peril. Just as the Lord heard the prayers of the Israelites so long ago, I believe He was listening when hundreds of thousands of believers in the UK were praying for divine intervention.

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/A000000230.cfm

Again, to answer your question, "so do your really think we should depend on our outcomes to be good....coming from God?"
From where else can we get the ability to WIN this war on terror? Where else can we look to for good to come? To the idols of our own pleasures and lusts for our own "treasures" (possessions)?

Eze 18:27 Again, when the wicked man turns away from his wickedness that he has committed, and does that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
Eze 18:28 Because he considers, and turns away from all his transgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

This will be to America.. when she turns to God and repents of the nation's sins and seeks to do right before God again.
America shall surely live, she shall not die.. because she will in that day consider and turn away from her transgressions.
For the GOOD.. and victory, of the nation.

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 11:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

As for praying for you because you dwell among people who have no discernment and are rapidly incurring the wrath of Almighty God, I will pray for you and your family. But the Lord reminded me of the Scripture He gave to me BEFORE He sent the cyclone on Myanmar (it was concerning Myanmar). It speaks of God's angel going out and marking the foreheads of those who are His before He sent in the destruction upon the people, slaying both the old and young. God said to the angel:

Eze 9:4 And the LORD said to him, Go through the midst of the city.. and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that are done in the midst of it.
Eze 9:5 And to the others he said in my hearing, You go after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have pity:
Eze 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maidens, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7 And he said to them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

This was given to me before Myanmar's cyclone to explain to me what He was doing in the earth.
And now, this is to tell you and yours that God sees you and marks you for preservation.
Perhaps you saw those in the church in the China quake who were having a wedding?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/22/quake.wedding.ap/index.html

(See the second picture which has the caption: When the dust settled after the massive quake, everyone stood and realized they were all safe.)

Not one of the five wedding parties lost their lives. They were preserved among the debris of the church.
So God can preserve people in the midst of anything, and has (911 survivors).

God slays the wicked with a sword from His hand, and His sword can be disaster, famine, or terrorism.
When He does so, He remembers His own and delivers them - like Lot - out of the midst of it, or preserves them in it.
Those who serve Him in the military often see His hand of protection over them in battle.

God has not forsaken His people, and He very much watches for all those who are His and their lives - even when there is an overthrow. I have received from Him that those who are or will be His in the military (and their families), and you and your family at home.. will be preserved.

There is a cult which says because God is angry at sin He will indiscriminately kill American servicemen for the sins of their countrymen.. that is untrue. God is not like a shotgun, but more like a sharpshooter. He takes out whom He wills carefully.. and all the while preserves His own. And He never lays the sins of one man to the charge of another man. To that cult is this Scripture:

Eze 18:2 What do you mean, that you use this proverb ... saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
Eze 18:3 As I live, says the Lord GOD, you shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb.
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die.

Clearly, the ones dying are the souls that sin against God, not those who serve Him.
(Each man is accountable only for his own sin, and God is very longsuffering and merciful even then.)

While having a wedding day ruined was hard on the five wedding parties,
They were all preserved alive in the midst of the rubble of that Christian church.
Did no one see any reason or picture in that?
Perhaps they never look for any.

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 1:06 PM


Sara wrote:

TY, DA. :)

-- May 29, 2008 1:22 PM


Sara wrote:

World Leaders Adopt Declaration Praising Iraq Efforts

STOCKHOLM (AFP)--World leaders attending a conference on Iraq unanimously approved a declaration Thursday acknowledging Baghdad's efforts to improve security and "combat terrorism" in the war-torn country.

"The participants of the Stockholm conference recognized the important efforts made by the (Iraqi) government to improve security and public order and combat terrorism and sectarian violence across Iraq," the declaration said.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080529\ACQDJON200805291228DOWJONESDJONLINE000830.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=World%20Leaders%20Adopt%20Declaration%20Praising%20Iraq%20Efforts

-- May 29, 2008 1:41 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq asks creditors to cancel crippling debts

Reuters - Friday, May 30
STOCKHOLM - Iraq pressed its creditors to cancel about $60 billion in debts at an international conference on Thursday.

The Iraqi delegation, led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, basked in praise from international leaders lauding the country's economic and political development five years after the United States invaded to topple Saddam Hussein.

The Stockholm conference is the first annual review of the International Compact with Iraq agreed in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh last year, which committed Iraq to implement reforms in exchange for greater international support.

Maliki said the large debts -- some of which date back almost 30 years -- along with compensation payments for Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, were shackling the economy.

Iraq is obliged to set aside 5 percent of its oil revenues as compensation payments, amounting to $3.5 billion this year, according to the Iraqi government.

"Iraq is not a poor country. It possesses tremendous human and material resources, but the debts of Iraq ... which we inherited from the dictator, hamper the reconstruction process," Maliki told the conference.

"We are looking forward to the brother countries writing off its debts, which are a burden on the Iraqi government," he said, a pointed reference to Gulf states such as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, which are Iraq's biggest Arab creditors.

The foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait were not present at Thursday's conference. Instead, Riyadh sent a junior minister of state for foreign affairs and Kuwait dispatched an under-secretary responsible for international organisations.

A member of the Iraqi delegation told Reuters they were disappointed by the foreign ministers' absence. Some analysts have said Sunni Arab countries in the Gulf and across the Middle East have kept Iraq at arm's length since the fall of Saddam over concerns of a powerful Shi'ite-led country in their midst.

A recent report to the U.S. Congress said the Gulf states, which supported Iraq during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, were resisting writing off Iraq's debts.

About $66.5 billion of Iraq's $120.2 billion foreign debt has been forgiven, according to State Department estimates. More than half of the outstanding debt is owed to Gulf Arab states, mainly Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

http://beta.ph.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080529/twl-uk-iraq-conference-13abf6c.html

-- May 29, 2008 1:48 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain speaks of Obama's Iraq trip

McCain says Obama's Iraq trip would convince him of success
McCain said Friday that Obama’s foreign policy displayed naivete.
May 29, 2008
Alexander Marquardt

BEVERLY HILLS, California (CNN) – Before heading to a Los Angeles fundraiser Wednesday night, John McCain spoke to reporters about news that Barack Obama is considering a trip to Iraq. McCain said he is happy his likely Democratic opponent is mulling it over and believes Obama would change his tune after spending some time in the country.

“[I was] glad to hear that Senator Obama is now, quote, 'considering' a trip to Iraq,” said McCain. “It's long overdue. It's been 871 days since he was there and I'm confident that when he goes he will then change his position on the conflict in Iraq because he will see the success that has been achieved on the ground.”

“John McCain’s proposal is nothing more than a political stunt,” the Obama campaign told CNN Tuesday after McCain said he would be happy to accompany Obama on a trip to Iraq.

“More than 4,000 brave young Americans have given their lives,” McCain responded. “To say that my urging a person who wants to be president of the United States to go to Iraq for the first time in 871 days and see the situation for himself and to call that a publicity stunt is a fundamental misunderstanding of the gravity of this issue.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/29/mccain-says-obamas-iraq-trip-would-convince-him-of-success/

-- May 29, 2008 2:05 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

Good news concerning more debt forgiveness. I wish the Saudis and the Kuwaitis could reach an equitable figure for Iraq to pay and forgive the rest.

It does not look as promising for the SOFA agreement. From what I have read the Iraqis have rejected the agreement. I know it is scheduled for review before June 15th. It looks as though the negotiators of the agreement have some work ahead of them.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 29, 2008 2:13 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

I was hoping they would have more forgiveness, too. That would really help the reconstruction without all that debt hanging over their heads.

Do you know if the Germans were expected to pay to all the countries Hitler invaded after WW2? How did that work after their government was toppled, do you know?

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 2:18 PM


Sara wrote:

Media says Army suicides up, but neglects to mention that the rate is still LOWER than US national average

Anything to smear the troops, hey?

==

The AP Crows: Army Suicides Are Up Again!
From an elated Associated Press:
Army suicides reported up again — at 108
By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The number of Army suicides increased again last year, amid the most violent year yet in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Two defense officials said Thursday that 108 troops committed suicide in 2007, six more than the previous year. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the full report on the deaths wasn’t being released until later Thursday.

About a quarter of the deaths occurred in Iraq.

The overall toll was the highest in many years, and it was unclear when, if ever, it was previously that high. Immediately available Army records go back only to 1990 and the figure then was lower — at 102 — for that year as well as 1991.

The 108 confirmed deaths in 2007 among active duty soldier and National Guard and Reserve troops that had been activated was lower than previously feared. Preliminary figures released in January showed as many as 121 troops may have killed themselves, but a number of the deaths were still being investigated then and have since been determined to have resulted from other causes, the officials said.

Suicides have been rising almost steadily during the five-year-old war in Iraq and nearly seven-year-old war in Afghanistan.

The 108 deaths last year followed 102 in 2006, 85 in 2005 and 67 in 2004.

The increases come despite a host of efforts to improve the mental health of a force stressed by long and repeated tours of duty. Increasing the strain on the force last year was the extension of deployments to 15 months from 12 months, a practice that is being terminated this year.

More U.S. troops died in hostilities in 2007 than in any of the previous years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Overall violence increased in Afghanistan with a Taliban resurgence and overall deaths increased in Iraq, even as violence there declined in the second half of the year.

===

At long last, some news the Associated Press will be only too glad to report about our military.

(Never mind their successes in Iraq.)

Note that they couldn’t wait to get out this his historically important information. They had to post a leak from anonymous sources.

And speaking of information, we will again point out that according to an August 16, 2007 MSNBC article: quote, "In a half million-person Army, the [latest suicide] toll translated to a rate of 17.3 per 100,000…

But what both the AP and MSNBC neglect to report this niggling detail from an April 15, 2004 report from the Defense Department:

QUOTE: "[T]he national average of 21.5 [suicides] per 100,000 for males ages 20 to 34 the age span for most U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

So even this new higher rate is still much lower than the national average. But we can’t have context like that from the AP.

They have an agenda to push.

Comments:

1) SonoraRebel

Trigger pullers ‘n direct combat ops types have an acute sense of self preservation. I would be interested to know the occupational specialties of these military ’suicides’ and their ’status’ (Regular, Reserve, NG and length of service). It would also be beneficial to learn of their personal lifestyle (indebtedness, marital/relationship problems, substance dependency etc.) To lay these suicides on ‘combat stress’ is BS! Quite possibly… many of these deaths could be attributed to ‘accidental’ in that people who handle weapons (or have access to them) get careless or complacent. As a 2- tour ‘Nam vet with 20+ years active duty, as well as being a former Police Officer, I speak from experience.

2) rakkasan

The Taliban resurgence has fizzled yet again this spring. Attacks are down by half. However, the media will never give a positive spin. They want us to lose, badly. Appeasers all.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-ap-crows-army-suicides-are-up-again

-- May 29, 2008 2:32 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,
Thank you so much again for your clarification. Very well put. I, too pray for God to remember the faith of His saints when considering expressing His Righteous judgement. The references you made to world calamities is shared by millions and millions of beieivers ( not to confuse the Rev. Wright analogies). Even the most conservative leader ( including talk show hosts) find these precepts unacceptable. Unless they know Christ and are placing their faith in His Word for direction and edification, to them we are derelicts on the same plane with Radical Muslims. Can you see the lines in the sand being drawn more vividly?

Again thank you.

Carole

-- May 29, 2008 3:00 PM


Steve wrote:

Sara,
The USA supported the UK during WW2 and did you forgive the UK their debts, NO in fact I am sure the UK made the last repayment only a few months ago

-- May 29, 2008 4:40 PM


Sara wrote:

Steve;

About $66.5 billion of Iraq's $120.2 billion foreign debt has been forgiven..

Then perhaps approximately HALF the debt being forgiven is a moderately generous position and Iraq should move to reconstruct within that construct, albeit at a much slower pace and with hinderances which would not be there if the debt was fully forgiven. And also remembering and keeping in mind those who have been a "friend in need" - those who forgave the debt - by giving them some degree of concessions and preferential treatment over those who did not.

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 4:58 PM


Sara wrote:

Thank you, Carole. Concerning your comment, "Even the most conservative leader (including talk show hosts) find these precepts unacceptable."

I sympathize with them. I once believed in the Santa Claus God, too.. you know, the kindly grey-bearded jolly fellow who only wishes to bless us with gifts and winks at sin.. until I got saved and read the Bible. Somehow, it just didn't line up with the God of the Bible who is the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb 13:8).

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I do not change..

Maybe they need such a life-giving change of perspective, too. Or, perish the thought.. maybe they should actually READ the Bible the God they profess to believe wrote... and believe it?? Or is that part about being "believers" only lip-service? Believers in what? Santa Claus?

Thanks again for your post,

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 5:27 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and all,

Sara, you posted from Media Center ADNKRONOS-- I think this is a news service from Italy as it seems to have a majority of news about Italy and then their press news on the international scene.

-I noted several articles on religion as it regards Iran.

* Iran: Ten Christian converts arrested (title of article).

The article is about muslem converts who are being arrested in city of Shiraz. According to Goodarz, a spokesperson for the Iranian converts, more than 35 of them have been arrested since the beginning of year. Goodarz himself has taken refuge in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates.

Apparently, the new Majilis or Iranian parliament is going to be discussing the reversion of their penal codes for people converting from the Muslim faith. Under the new law, anyone born to a Mulim father who decides to renounce Islam and convert to another faith, faces the death penalty. The punishment is currently missing from the law though in the past dozens of Christian converts and followers of the Bahai faith have been hanged.

Then there is an article on: Iran: Film about Christ based on the Koran

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/CultureAndMedia/?id=1.0.2201243868

They (Muslims) appear to understand what Christians believe.

Then another article: Iran: Cleric 'calls all feminists whores and foreign spies'

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.2200287203

This article is mainly about human rights of woman who are wanting mutuality of rights on the same level as men. They are trying to get 1 million signatures to give women these rights.

I also noticed in another article I believe this one is in Iraq Updates that Suad Mohammed wrote from Baghdad an article entitled 'Iraq Life of Women Harder'. In this article, the author is telling us that women are committing suicide due to the oppression of Muslim treatment/laws. Again, human rights issues.

Also, noted, Iraq Updates shows that an article on Christians who have moved from Iraq to Sweden for asylum and go to church in Sweden. Surprise, Surprise!

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php?refid=DH-S-28-05-2008&article=31674

One of the items I noticed in the Italy news paper was that Iran's president is going to Rome. In that article it noted that Germany and Italy is Iran's main trade partners along with China.

All of a sudden, these trading partners are moving away from helping Iran. This is hurting Iran economically and maybe putting teeth into the sanctions which seems to be the implications.

I have been noting how China, Italy, Germany have been landing oil/business deals with Iraq and I am wondering how much USA influence has been on these countries to leave Iran in isolation over the nuclear deal?.

Also, Sara, remember your ancestoral discussion of what nations would be involved in the last days battle and we wondered if Germany and Italy would be there?. These trading partners seem to be on good terms with Iran.

However, my question, is why are these nations turning from Iran all of sudden?
It maybe the business deals of self interests these countries are striking with Iraq (and I am thing cooridinated with USA) to get teeth into these sanctions.

Could these other human rights articles be the result of why the leadership in Iran is persecuting western interests (like christians) etc. even harsher. Or, has this been their practice all along?.

Any thoughts on these issues.

Laura Parker

-- May 29, 2008 5:31 PM


Sara wrote:

1Co 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This is also why Pat thinks me so foolish in what I have written here about the will of God. It is great foolishness and a waste of time to talk of God in the eyes of those who cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God.. they cannot (CAN NOT) receive or know these things because they do not have the spiritual ability or discernment to do so. It is "foolishness" to them - as God here explains thousands of years before such persons were ever born. They simply have no eyes to see, nor ears to hear.. it is all foolish gibberish.

Sara.

-- May 29, 2008 7:58 PM


Sara wrote:

Maliki's Midas Touch
A Look at How the Iraqi P.M. Turned His and Sadr City's Fortunes Around
REPORTER'S NOTEBOOK By AZFAR U. DEEN
BAGHDAD, Iraq, May 28, 2008

In Baghdad's Sadr City today, once again, street vendors line the sidewalk with colorful shirts and shoes. Vegetable markets, once again, have fresh limes and produce. Family stores, once again, are back in business.

And in the local Ibn al Balad hospital, no more war wounds.

"There are no injured people in this hospital," says Jabber Shanshal, an Iraqi nurse, drawing a stark contrast with the situation more than two months ago, when heavy fighting took place in the Shiite suburb of almost three million people.

The residents of Sadr City have been longtime followers of the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr and his 60,000-strong Mahdi militia. He and his fighters staunchly oppose the U.S. military presence in Iraq and have frequently targeted U.S. troops across the country.

But all that has changed. Last week, al Sadr's representatives and the main Shiite political party here signed a cease-fire agreement.

And at sunrise on May 20, a legion of Iraqi soldiers cautiously marched into Sadr City. Prime Minister Nuri al Maliki had ordered the thousands of soldiers into the Shiite enclave as part of "Operation Peace." They were greeted with open arms.

"Now, we feel safe and stable," said Ayad Abbas, a Sadr City resident. "All the people of Sadr City want the rule of law … so, the army can enter" said another.

Normally unsure of the Mahdi army's volatility, Iraqi Army soldiers embraced their welcome.

"All of us are relatives and brothers. We are here to serve the people," said Salam Aaref, an Iraqi major.

The soldiers were heralded as heroes. And Maliki was seen as the strong leader — taking on the unpredictable Sadr and his Mahdi army.

Early this year, on Jan. 25, Maliki publicly announced his intentions to take on and finish off al Qaeda in Iraq in its last claimed stronghold — Mosul.

But after a couple of months of tough-talk about al Qaeda, he surprised many, including U.S. military commanders, when he decided to turn his attention to Basra.

Basra had erupted into a Shiite-on-Shiite power struggle, and as long as Maliki ignored the evident instability in the South, whispered doubts flourished about his dedication to national unity. Maliki was still struggling with many Sunnis and Kurds over his willingness to tackle Shiite troubles and in-fighting.

On March 23, Maliki launched Operation Knight's Assault, in Basra. Thousands of soldiers stormed the southern Shiite bastion, specifically targeting Muqtada al Sadr and his army.

The early stages of the operation were shaky at best — 1,000 soldiers deserted ranks as they refused to fight against their brethren in the Mahdi army.

At congressional hearings in April, Gen. David Petraeus said, regarding Knight's Assault, "There's no question but that it could have been better planned and that the preparations could have been better."

But as Maliki bore the brunt of international backlash over the execution of the operation, he stood his ground.

And although many of the Shiite fighters melted into the streets, a little over a month later, the city is being called the "new city of hope." Not perfect by any means, but there are steady reports of businesses reopening, women cautiously baring skin and life being somewhat manageable. Success.

The Sunnis, Kurds and Shiites alike all eventually lauded the Basra operation as a huge success and whole-heartedly backed Maliki in his next endeavor — to revisit Mosul, and take on al Qaeda.

On May 9, late at night, we received word of an indefinite curfew in all of Nineva province. The next day, on May 10, Operation Lion's Roar surged ahead.

Acutely aware of his political momentum, on May 12, Maliki, accompanied by crews from Al Iraqia TV, the official state-run media outlet — went to Mosul — and Maliki personally, and publicly, took charge of the military operations there.

He was the lead story and plastered across almost every local front page.

In the first five days of Operation Lion's Roar, more than 500 terrorists and militants had been reportedly captured. Success. This time, with the Sunnis and Kurds behind him.

Then one week ago, on May 20, 10,000 Iraqi Army soldiers, backed by tanks (and U.S. air support), strolled into Sadr City. Not a single bullet was fired and there haven't been any gunfights, airstrikes or rockets launched into, or out of, Sadr City since.

(Two days earlier, the Iraqi Army quietly went into Sadr City and met with Sadr officials to coordinate the military operation in the city. After the meeting, they quietly left the city to return to their position on the outskirts.)

Now, U.S. military officers believe there was a contributing element of fatigue — Sadr City residents were fed up. Tired of being trapped in their homes amid a daily routine of airstrikes, gunfights and roadblocks, their lives had effectively come to a standstill.

Nevertheless, today, both Maliki and Sadr seem to be on the verge of declaring victory in the eastern Baghdad slum.

Sadr is trying to grasp on to a sliver of political leverage, claiming to have struck the deal which brought his people their livelihoods back. While Maliki is lauding the latest in a series of successes to ensure security and a regained national unity to his country.

Certainly, it seems as though there is little Maliki can do wrong these days. With provincial elections around the corner, an Iraqi future without Maliki is almost impossible to imagine.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4938966&page=1

-- May 29, 2008 8:09 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

ICI strong message from int'l community to support building Iraq - PM

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Thursday , 29 /05 /2008 Time 9:44:10




Baghdad, May 29, (VOI) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Thursday considered the International Compact for Iraq conference, which opened this morning in Sweden, as a strong message of support from the international community for the building of a unified Iraq, and an opportunity to highlight the "current achievements" realized by his government in various domains.

"We are optimistic with what we have achieved since the Sharm el-Sheikh conference last year," al-Maliki said, noting that the data and information prepared by Iraqi experts in the annual report, which will be presented to the conference, "show our achievements in a year full of challenges."
"The Iraqi people believe in the importance of the national reconciliation which we have considered from the beginning as a 'lifeboat' and boosted our belief that Iraq would remain unified," he added.
He asserted that the government adopts the national reconciliation initiative as "a strategic vision, not a political slogan," underlining that this was the main reason civil war was averted in the country.
The International Compact for Iraq conference opened here Thursday, amid calls from Baghdad for more help to stabilize the situation, with the participation of more than 90 countries, the U.N. and a number of international organizations.
The conference will review annual reports, prepared by the Iraqi government and the U.N., which provides a comprehensive evaluation of the progress achieved thus far and the coming challenges.
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki left Baghdad yesterday heading for Stockholm accompanied by his deputy Burham Saleh, Finance Minister Bayan Jabr al-Zubaidi, and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.
Dignitaries expected to address the summit included U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki along with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt.
Al-Maliki and other Iraqi officials will hold bilateral meetings with Swedish officials and discuss the need for investments in Iraq's infrastructure.
The International Compact for Iraq (ICI) was launched at a conference in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh on May 3, 2007.
The preparatory process on the United Nations-sponsored ICI, began in July 2006 at the initiative of the Iraqi government to establish a partnership with the international community.
It is a five-year national plan to help Iraq consolidate peace, sound governance and economic reconstruction. It includes benchmarks and mutual commitments from both Iraq and the international community in pursuit of political, economic and social development goals over the next five years.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.


-- May 29, 2008 9:40 PM


Caole wrote:

Sara,

You are right about spiritual blindness...remember, by grace we are saved........once WE were struck with the same blindness.

My son in law just called me and said today he was told by his sources that the Minister of Finance of Iraq has warned the govt. that the victory and ability to take care of their people now demands rv of the dinar. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

Carole

-- May 29, 2008 9:44 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Austria's OMV plans Iraqi Kurdistan oil blocks work
Tue May 27, 2008 4:55pm BST Email | Print | Share| Single Page| Recommend (-) [-] Text [+] Market News
Origin shares up over 8 pct after rejects BG bid
Nikkei up 0.5 pct as Toyota, exporters lead
BG Group considering Origin options
More Business & Investing News... DUBAI, May 27, (Reuters) - Austrian oil and gas group OMV AG (OMVV.VI: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Tuesday it planned to drill two wells next year in its northern Iraq exploration blocks.

OMV was awarded two production sharing contracts by the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) in the Mala Omar and Shorish blocks in November.

"We have two blocks near Erbil near the Taq Taq and Hawla fields," Ashiq Hussain, OMV's senior vice-president for global exploration and reservoir management, told an energy conference in Dubai.

"We plan to shoot seismic in August and drill two wells next year."

Iraq halted oil supplies to OMV in February in protest over the deal between the company and the KRG. (Reporting by John Irish)

(www.uk.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 29, 2008 9:45 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Turkish PM Erdogan will visit Iraq soon-Talabani

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Baghdad, 29 May 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on Thursday revealed Turkish Prime Minister Recep Yayyip Erdogan will make a visit to Baghdad, the first for a high-level Turkish official since toppling the former regime of Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Speaking to news organisations editor-in-chiefs in Baghdad, Talabani said “Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan will make visit to Iraq soon”.

He added “ committees led by the two countries Prime Ministers have been formed to enhance trading exchange between Iraq and Turkey, raising it to $5 billions dollars, 20% higher than its current level”.

In March,President Talabani visited Turkey and met his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul to foster strong ties with the northern neighbour.

Talabani’s visit cames one week after an offensive launched by Turkish army troops against Turkish Kurdistan Workers party(PKK) in northern Iraq
Talabani highlighted “Turkey approved financing two pipeline for oil and gas and raising the water share (of Tigris and Euphrates)”.

Last week Iraqi Minister of Water resources Jamal Rasheed visited Turkey to discuss the shortage of water levels in Tigris and Euphrates.

Iraq suffers from shortage of water due to decreasing percentage of precipitations and dams set up on its two rivers flow through Turkey.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 29, 2008 9:49 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Instead of just posting another article with limited or comment I thought this one deserved special recognition.
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Iraq's deputy PM says renewed will to finish oil law

There is fresh political will to complete a long-awaited oil law designed to pave the way for international investment in Iraq's oil sector, Iraq's deputy prime minister said on Thursday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 29, 2008 9:56 PM


Sara wrote:

True, Carole. It is by all by Grace.. God has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He pardons.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shows mercy.
One cannot boast of mercy, only rejoice in it.
If one is prompted - is given the wisdom and ability to repent - that is a great boon and wisdom.

As for your very interesting information of, My son in law just called me and said today he was told by his sources that the Minister of Finance of Iraq has warned the govt. that the victory and ability to take care of their people now demands rv of the dinar.

I also believe that the RV is crucial at this point in time for Iraq to move forward.
It doesn't make sense to delay it.
In that article on Iraq asking for forgiveness for its crippling debt, it said,
QUOTE:

"We are looking forward to the brother countries writing off its debts, which are a burden on the Iraqi government," he said, a pointed reference to Gulf states such as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, Iraq's biggest Arab creditors.

The two countries' foreign ministers were not at the conference. Riyadh sent a junior foreign minister and Kuwait an under-secretary responsible for international organisations.

"Of course we would have wished to have senior representatives for the Arab states at this conference," Maliki told a news conference after the meeting.

ARM'S LENGTH

Analysts say Sunni Arab countries have kept Iraq at arm's length, concerned at its close ties with neighbouring Iran, which has a Shi'ite majority."

http://beta.ph.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080529/twl-uk-iraq-conference-13abf6c.html

If Iraq does not RV as they should in their national interest, the other nations (like with the debt forgiveness, above) will conclude the reason is to appease and cozy up to Iran's interests. That is why they won't do more for Iraq's debt problems. They are wary of Iraq's close ties with neighboring Iran over Iraqi interests.

It is in IRAQ'S best interest to RV, but not in IRAN'S. Many have said Maliki is Iran's man, someone who will only act in Iran's best interests. The crackdown against Sadr has helped them to be cautiously optimistic he may work in Iraqi best interests, not Iran's. The RV is another test in that way. It will make the Iraqis strong and independent, able to stand more on their own two feet. A dependent Shiite Iraq is in the interests of Iran. An independent and diverse Iraq with national interests first over ethnicity is in the interests of a healthy, strong Iraq who can have good relations with all its neighbors - Shiite and Sunni Arab. We will see if Iraq has the vision, wisdom and guts to do what is best for them. Or if they will stall yet again, caving in to the Princes of Persia (Iran).

Knowing what is right and doing it.. are two different things. Let's pray they will DO the right thing, not just know what it is. So many have given them good advice.. here your son-in-law says, "that the Minister of Finance of Iraq has warned the govt. that the victory and ability to take care of their people now demands rv of the dinar".. that is very good and wise advice. But due to ties to Iran, taking it may be hard for them. I pray God open up the way for Iraq to do this which is in the national interest.. over that which keeps them cowed to the interests of Iran (which their neighboring states say has far too much influence in Iraqis politics as it is).

Ultimately, the Persians are indeed the ones halting the RV, which is the victorious strategy that the US knows will work for Iraq.. just as I shared about the American coming to Iraq with the victorious battle plan, but the Prince of Persia preventing it from being implemented by his opposition to that which is right and from God. These same spiritual entities which oppose God and His will have been there since the time of Daniel when Scripture says they hindered his prayers from being answered for days, if you remember. They remain over that area with power. I pray that spiritual opposition of the Princes of Persia can and will be overcome.. so the RV may happen for the good of Iraq and its victory as a nation... because, as was seen in that which I shared previously - the spiritual opposition is incredibly great to this proper course of action on Iraq's behalf.

Sara.

-- May 30, 2008 6:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Rice says priority for Iraq is capacity building

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday that the international community's priority for Iraq is not financial assistance, but capacity building.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 30, 2008 9:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It looks as the SOFA agreement must either me revised. There appears to be no deal in its current form.
__________________________________________________________
Iraqi representitive announces dead end for US-Iraqi agreement

Politics 5/30/2008 2:13:00 PM



BAGHDAD, May 30 (KUNA) -- Iraq has rejected a US long-term agreement between the two countries, according to leader of the United Iraqi Alliance (parliamentary majority) Abdulaziz Al-Hakim on Friday.
The United Iraqi Alliance, in a statement, said that Al-Hakim, who also heads the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, refused the agreement after a national consensus that rejected most of the articles from the American side, due to their conflict with the sovereignty of the Iraqi people.
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, before heading off to Stockholm for the International Compact with Iraq Conference two days ago, said on state television that the agreement was in the interest of Iraq, and was in its final stages.
He added that the agreement was to lay the groundwork for several aspects of cooperation with the US, primarily economically and politically.
He also indicated to a section that dealt with the position of US forces in Iraq, to which he failed to add further detail, though indicating to an extension of the mandate of multi-national forces in the country in exchange for this agreement before July. (end) mhg.sd KUNA 301413 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 30, 2008 9:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Talabani condemns Hezbollah leader''s "interference" with Iraqi affairs

Politics 5/30/2008 12:55:00 PM



BAGHDAD, May 30 (KUNA) -- Iraqi President Jalal Talabani criticized Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, saying he should not "interfere with Iraq's state of affairs." Talabani made the statement in an interview with Iraqi media on Friday.
Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah previously called on Iraqis to employ what he called a "strategy of freedom," praising what he described as "Iraqi resistance to the American occupation." Talabani stated that Iraq had never interfered with Lebanese affairs, and that the true Shiite religious scholars that had conflicting views to Nasrallah, lay in Iraq as opposed to their "apprentices" elsewhere.
On the Iraqi-Iranian side, Talabani said that there was "much exaggeration in the matter," adding that terrorist groups in Iraq come from many countries.
Iraqi Vice President Adel Abdulmahdi is currently holding positive talks with Tehran regarding matters of common interest, he said.
Talabani, regarding the Sadrist movement in Iraq, said furthermore that his country would allow the group to participate in the coming governorate elections in October. (end) mhg.sd KUNA 301255 May 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 30, 2008 9:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Foreign firms vie for $15 billion construction contract
By Mohamed Fadhil

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30 May 2008 (Azzaman)
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International firms are competing for one of the largest construction schemes in the country at a total cost of nearly $15 billion, a statement by Baghdad Municipality said.

The statement said 14 firms have supplied tenders to construct the Al-Rasheed City to be built on a former massive military camp bearing the same name.

The city will include a 4000-bed hospital and as well 21 specialized clinics to form the largest medical complex the Middle East in the future, the statement said.

The residential complex that will include six residential sectors with hundreds of 3-6 story building is expected initially to house 60,000 people, it added.

The return of some semblance of normalcy to Baghdad is encouraging some firms to submit offers.

Most foreign firms had fled Iraqi due to mounting insecurity. Many have migrated to the more peaceful Kurdish north, taking a wait-and-see attitude.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 30, 2008 9:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Saudi Arabia says ready to look into easing debts owed by Iraq

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STOCKHOLM, 30 May 2008 (Kuwait News Agency (KUNA))
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Saudi Arabia expressed here on Thursday its readiness to consider easing its official debt owed by Iraq.

Saudi Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Nizar Madani said in a speech to the annual meetings of the International Covenant on Iraq (ICI) that Saudi Arabia "expressed willingness to consider easing its official debt owed by Iraq." He stated in this regard that "Saudi Arabia has provided all information available to it to the Iraqi side and is awaiting response of the Iraqi brothers in order to find a proper settlement of this matter." He also underscored the firm commitment of Saudi Arabia in supporting Iraq's unity, sovereignty, independence and its Arab and Islamic identity, as well as rejecting any claims to divide the country and the importance of non-interference in its internal affairs.

For its part, Egypt reiterated that it is in the forefront of countries that seek to cooperate and coordinate at all levels for the sake of building a new Iraq and is capable of contributing to its security, stability and development of its territory, benefiting from its enormous potentials, material and human energies.

Egyptian deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs Hossam Zaki said in a similar speech that the ICI which was adopted in Sharm El-Sheikh aims to promote international partnership to improve the lives of the Iraqi people and advancing the process of reconstruction and development within the community of democratic, multi-Iraqi.

Furthermore, the UAE has praised efforts of the Iraqi government to achieve security and stability and its commitment to disarm all militias and armed groups, as well as protecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- May 30, 2008 9:42 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N and board - About the RV delay;

So sorry to hear the security pact has fallen through.
After Tehran's Ayatollah said signing a security pact with the US was "betraying Islam".. I was hoping that Iraq would not cave in to Iran and give up its sovereignty to the Iranian clerics and their interpretation of Islam.
Obviously, having Iran's clerics rule Iraq from Iran does not bode well for Iraq's future, or the Dinar.
Putting in place an agreement with the US to oversee and protect Iraqi and American interests was in the best interests of the country of Iraq.
The objections of it "betraying Islam" were baseless, as I posted before, here:

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_2.html#134982

I wasn't the only one as that article you quoted today stated, "Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, before heading off to Stockholm for the International Compact with Iraq Conference two days ago, said on state television that the agreement was in the interest of Iraq, and was in its final stages."
The agreement WAS in the interest of Iraq.. but not in Iran's best interest.

The influence of Persia (Iran) over Iraq and in the region is unfortunately incredibly large - both in the physical and spiritual realm - as your other article posted of "Talabani condemns Hezbollah leader''s "interference" with Iraqi affairs" shows. As you know, Iran is very strongly involved, indeed sponsors of Hezbollah - note the phrase "Iran and Syria, the state sponsors of the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists" in the article above at:
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/04/dinar_discussio_2.html#134936

These are not good things for a Sovereign free and democratic Iraq.
The Iranian clerics have shown how strongly they can tighten their grip..
and how deeply their influence reaches into the Iraqi political life and security.
Sara.

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Signing security pact with US in Iraq would be betraying Islam - Ayatollah Khatami
Tehran, May 23, IRNA
Iran-Prayers-Khatami

Substitute Friday Prayers Leader of Tehran in his second sermon referred to the efforts made by Washington to sign an imposed security pact with Iraq, arguing that signing such a pact would equal betraying Islam, the Iraqi nation, and Shi'a World.

Ayatollah Seyyed Ahmad Khatami added, "If such a pact would be signed and put to effect the Iraqi nation would be belittled and taken captive by the United States for good, but thanks to the strong opposition on the part of grand Islamic Alims, elites, scientists, and some Iraqi statesmen, it has not been signed yet."

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0805231392170318.htm

thanks to the strong opposition on the part of... some Iraqi statesmen
We can see here, from the pact falling through, that Iraq certainly has listened to Tehran over the best interests of the country..
What of the Dinar RV which is also in the Iraqi people's interest and necessary for Iraqi victory (as Carole's last post pointed out)?
CAN Iraq take the good advice it is offered.. or are they beholden to take their orders from the clerical regime next door?
Is Iran de facto ruling Iraq by proxy?
This would explain the RV delay.

Sara.

-- May 30, 2008 10:53 AM


Sara wrote:

Al-Qaeda near defeat in Iraq, on defensive globally: CIA chief
Fri May 30, 2008

WASHINGTON (AFP) - CIA chief Michael Hayden, in an interview published Friday, said Al-Qaeda is essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive elsewhere, including the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

CIA director Michael Hayden told the Washington Post major gains have been made against Al-Qaeda's allies in the Middle East, while a campaign to destabilize the network's core leadership has been increasingly successful.

Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is also losing the battle for hearts and minds in the Islamic world and has largely lost his ability to exploit the Iraq war to recruit new members, he said, according to the Post.

"On balance, we are doing pretty well," Hayden said, while warning that Al-Qaeda remains a serious threat.

The list of accomplishments, he said, includes: "Near strategic defeat of Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for Al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for Al-Qaeda globally -- and here I'm going to use the word 'ideologically' -- as a lot of the Islamic world pushes back on their form of Islam."

The upbeat assessment comes less than a year after a US intelligence report last August found that Al-Qaeda had regrouped in a safe haven in Pakistan's lawless border region with Afghanistan and was determined new attacks on the United States.

But Hayden said gains have been made against Al-Qaeda even in the lawless region and that US intelligence agencies have carried out several attacks there since January, using unmanned aircraft to strike safe houses.

"The ability to kill and capture key members of Al-Qaeda continues, and keeps them off balance -- even in their best safe haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border," Hayden told the Post.

In Iraq, he said he was encouraged by US success against Al-Qaeda's affiliates and by what he described as the steadily rising competence of the Iraqi military and a growing popular antipathy toward jihadism.

"Despite this 'cause celebre' phenomenon, fundamentally no one really liked Al-Qaeda's vision of the future," Hayden said, adding that the insurgency was viewed by Iraqis as "more and more a war of Al-Qaeda against Iraqis."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080530/wl_afp/usintelligenceattacksqaeda

The upbeat assessment comes less than a year after a US intelligence report last August found that Al-Qaeda had regrouped in a safe haven in Pakistan's lawless border region with Afghanistan and was determined new attacks on the United States.
"On balance, we are doing pretty well," Hayden said, while warning that Al-Qaeda remains a serious threat.

Hmmmmm...

Sara.

-- May 30, 2008 11:24 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Does anyone know how to get a hold of the administrator to this blog?. I wrote to Sara's and Carole's communication concerning the political/religious persecution and alignment of economic sanctions to Iran. Some items I had been noticing. I noted that my comments may have gotten held up in the spam blotter to this blog. I concluded that the comments would get posted the next day, and I see that the comments still have not been posted.

Laura Parker

-- May 30, 2008 12:22 PM


DinarAdmin wrote:

I found your comment and posted it to the board above and then below this post, Laura. In general, I do not remove comments unless they are personal attacks. I check the filter from time to time for pending comments. I have not given an email address because Admins tend to have it filled for them by the disgruntled.

DinarAdmin.

-- May 30, 2008 1:36 PM


DinarAdmin wrote:

Reposted above as well.

Sara and all,

Sara, you posted from Media Center ADNKRONOS-- I think this is a news service from Italy as it seems to have a majority of news about Italy and then their press news on the international scene.

-I noted several articles on religion as it regards Iran.

* Iran: Ten Christian converts arrested (title of article).

The article is about muslem converts who are being arrested in city of Shiraz. According to Goodarz, a spokesperson for the Iranian converts, more than 35 of them have been arrested since the beginning of year. Goodarz himself has taken refuge in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates.

Apparently, the new Majilis or Iranian parliament is going to be discussing the reversion of their penal codes for people converting from the Muslim faith. Under the new law, anyone born to a Mulim father who decides to renounce Islam and convert to another faith, faces the death penalty. The punishment is currently missing from the law though in the past dozens of Christian converts and followers of the Bahai faith have been hanged.

Then there is an article on: Iran: Film about Christ based on the Koran

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/CultureAndMedia/?id=1.0.2201243868

They (Muslims) appear to understand what Christians believe.

Then another article: Iran: Cleric 'calls all feminists whores and foreign spies'

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.2200287203

This article is mainly about human rights of woman who are wanting mutuality of rights on the same level as men. They are trying to get 1 million signatures to give women these rights.

I also noticed in another article I believe this one is in Iraq Updates that Suad Mohammed wrote from Baghdad an article entitled 'Iraq Life of Women Harder'. In this article, the author is telling us that women are committing suicide due to the oppression of Muslim treatment/laws. Again, human rights issues.

Also, noted, Iraq Updates shows that an article on Christians who have moved from Iraq to Sweden for asylum and go to church in Sweden. Surprise, Surprise!

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php?refid=DH-S-28-05-2008&article=31674

One of the items I noticed in the Italy news paper was that Iran's president is going to Rome. In that article it noted that Germany and Italy is Iran's main trade partners along with China.

All of a sudden, these trading partners are moving away from helping Iran. This is hurting Iran economically and maybe putting teeth into the sanctions which seems to be the implications.

I have been noting how China, Italy, Germany have been landing oil/business deals with Iraq and I am wondering how much USA influence has been on these countries to leave Iran in isolation over the nuclear deal?.

Also, Sara, remember your ancestoral discussion of what nations would be involved in the last days battle and we wondered if Germany and Italy would be there?. These trading partners seem to be on good terms with Iran.

However, my question, is why are these nations turning from Iran all of sudden?
It maybe the business deals of self interests these countries are striking with Iraq (and I am thing cooridinated with USA) to get teeth into these sanctions.

Could these other human rights articles be the result of why the leadership in Iran is persecuting western interests (like christians) etc. even harsher. Or, has this been their practice all along?.

Any thoughts on these issues.

Laura Parker

-- May 30, 2008 1:53 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

I think the nations dealing with Iran (perhaps one of the TEN who helped in the assessment below?) are concerned about their nuclear arms ambitions. Obviously, they don't wish to support a terrorist nuclear state:

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US:Further Concern Iran May Have Had Covert Nuclear Arms Plan
5/29/2008

VIENNA (AP)--A ranking International Atomic Energy Agency official called Tehran's possession of a drawing showing how to make part of an atomic warhead " alarming" Thursday and said the onus is on Iran to prove it had not tried to develop nuclear arms, said diplomats attending a closed briefing.

The U.S. said the evidence detailed by IAEA Deputy Director General Olli Heinonen increased concerns that Tehran had tried to make such weapons.

"Today's briefing showed...strong reasons to suspect that Iran was working covertly and deceitfully at least until recently to build a bomb," Gregory L. Schulte, the chief U.S. delegate to the agency, told reporters.

The documents, outlined in an IAEA report forwarded Monday to the U.N. Security Council and agency board members, are part of evidence provided by board member nations to the agency for its investigation into allegations that Iran used the cover of peaceful nuclear activities to conduct research and testing on a nuclear arms program.

One, dated January-February 2004 is linked to high explosives testing of the kind that can be used to detonate a nuclear device. Others, dated into January 2004 - and one as late as March 14 of that year - are part of purported evidence that Iran worked on designs of a missile re-entry vehicle that is normally a part of a nuclear delivery system.

A summarized U.S. National Intelligence Estimate, made public late last year, came to the conclusion that Tehran was conducting atomic weapons work but froze such activities in 2003. Other countries, however, believe such activities continued beyond that year, and any Iranian focus on nuclear weapons work in 2004 would at least indicate continued interest past the timeframe outlined in the U.S. intelligence estimate.

At the closed meeting Thursday, Heinonen said about 10 nations had provided intelligence and documentation meant to assist his team in investigating the allegations of hidden nuclear weapons work by Iran, said the diplomats. That marks the first time a precise number of countries was mentioned. The U.S. was the first country to share intelligence with the IAEA to support its allegations, and Tehran has depicted the probe as based on lies fabricated by Washington.

The briefing followed up on Monday's IAEA report, which said Iran may be withholding information needed to establish whether it tried to make nuclear arms.

The report also said Iran remains defiant of the council's demands that it suspend uranium enrichment and has expanded its operational centrifuges - machines that churn out enriched uranium - by about 500 since the last IAEA report, in February.

The IAEA report noted Iran now had only 3,500 centrifuges and said the few advanced machines actually running were only in a testing phase. Still, a senior U.N. official said Iran's goal of 6,000 machines running by the summer was " pretty much plausible."

Uranium can be used as nuclear reactor fuel or as the core for atomic warheads, depending on the degree of enrichment. Iran says it is interested in enrichment only for its nuclear energy program.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080529%5cACQDJON200805291303DOWJONESDJONLINE000866.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=US:Further%20Concern%20Iran%20May%20Have%20Had%20Covert%20Nuclear%20Arms%20Plan

-- May 30, 2008 2:37 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

This one appears to say the pact is still unsettled and in play.
I sure hope so, because as Iraqi President Talabani says here, it is in Iraq's best interest.

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Iraqi leader stresses pact with US
Politics 5/30/2008

BAGHDAD, May 30 (KUNA) -- Iraqi President Jalal Talabani stressed on Friday the importance of a long-term agreement with the US, allowing the Iraqi people to control their oil revenues.

Talabani was speaking to Iraqi press chief editors, urging the opponents of the deal to practice their right pursuant to constitutional frameworks.

Washington and Baghdad are holding negotiations on a Status of Forces Agreement aimed at giving a legal basis to the US troops after December 31, when a UN mandate defining the current status of foreign forces expires.

But, he said the Political Council for National Security would have the final say on the conclusion of such an Iraqi-US agreement.

He termed the pact as the sole way out to rid Iraq of the fallout of occupation and to restore control on national wealth.

The Iraqi government will consult all Iraqi factions and forces both at home and abroad on the agreement, which has not yet been fleshed out, he said.

He went on to say, "There are a couple of trends for the time being; the first trend is opposed to everything with the US, while the second believes in the international importance of the US so we can not do without it."

"There is not a single patriotic Iraqi who may not be keen on ending occupation and ridding Iraq of the presence of foreign forces. But, there are people who think responsibly and others who think sentimentally and just chant slogans," he said.

The Iraqi government has not fully reached the pact with the US, he said, adding that only steps were made within cultural, scientific and technological frameworks, along with economic assistance.

The council, headed by President Jalal Talabani, said the negotiations covered a wide spectrum of subjects including security, economic, political and military issues.

US President George W. Bush and Maliki signed a non-binding statement of principles in November for the negotiations, which began in March with the aim of concluding a pact by the end of July.

The proposed pact has come under fire from religious and political leaders both in Iraq and in neighbouring Iran.

(end) mhg.mt KUNA 301759 May 08NNNN
http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1912745&Language=en

-- May 30, 2008 3:02 PM


Sara wrote:

If this is true.. the confrontation with a nuclear powered Iran will fall to the next President.
Who would be best equipped to take on that task?

===

Iran on track for nuclear milestone -- UK analysts
Politics 5/30/2008

LONDON, May 30 (KUNA) -- Iran's nuclear programme made "big strides" in recent months and the country is on course to pass an important threshold for nuclear weapons capability next year, scientists and analysts said Friday.

Ever since Iran started enriching uranium in defiance of UN resolutions, Western diplomats have highlighted the technological obstacles facing the country, arguing that they provided time to deal with the dispute over Tehran's nuclear programme, the Financial Times (FT) newspaper said.

But several leading experts have said that Iran is now twice as effective in enriching uranium as before, based on a report this week by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN nuclear watchdog.

They add that during the course of the next year Iran is likely to build up a stockpile of enriched uranium that in theory could be turned into enough fissile material for a bomb in a matter of months.

While the US and its allies charge Tehran with seeking nuclear weapons, Iran insists its purposes are purely peaceful, the FT added.

David Albright, a former UN weapons inspector who now heads the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, concurs with other analysts that while Iran was previously only enriching uranium at 20 percent of the rate it sought, it is now operating at about 50 percent.

"Their centrifuges work better (at enriching uranium) and they are working to develop more advanced centrifuges," he said.

Some analysts have suggested that Iran's real goal may be a "virtual" nuclear status in which the country does not have the bomb but can develop it relatively speedily, the FT concluded.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1912687&Language=en

What do they do with one of these "speedy" bombs they can quickly build?
Any thoughts?
Coincidentally, the terrorists are planning an attack on the US, said the CIA director today (see article above).
These events could not possibly end up related in any way, could they?
Not to "scare" anyone, but.. is it wrong to add two and two and wonder if the product ever could possibly.. be four?
Maybe it will all go away in a sea of rhetoric about how our enemy can "change" and become real reasonable..
like Iran would suddenly be so reasonable and not develop nuclear weapons, if only that wizard Obama could talk to them (as President).

-- May 30, 2008 3:24 PM


Sara wrote:

Certainly, Iran is lining up all its people to stop any perceived threat to itself.
Sadr is in Iran, and from there he makes the call to those in Iraq to support the position of the Iranian clerics..
But this is against the good of the Iraqi people and calculated only for the strategic good of Iran.

===

Shiites in Iraq protest US security deal, answering al-Sadr's call
AP/May 30, 2008

BAGHDAD: Tens of thousands of Shiites have taken to the streets in Baghdad and other cities to protest plans for a long-term security agreement with the United States.

The rallies after Friday prayer services are the first to follow a call by anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr for weekly protests against the deal that could lead to a long-term American troop presence.

Demonstrators in Baghdad's Sadr City district chanted "no to America, no to the occupation."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/30/africa/ME-GEN-Iraq-Protests.php

Do these people know that the American troops are there by invitation by the Iraqi government for their security?
And what do they think happens if the troops pull out?
But then, that is what these Sadr supporters really want.. they want Iranian clerical rule.
Why don't Sadr's people follow Sadr and just move to Iran, then...
leaving the rest of the Iraqi people to be free Iraqis under their own Constitution?
MUST they seek to impose Iranian clerical rule (and the sovereign interests of Iran) upon free Iraqis?
I suppose their religion dictates them to do so.. to extend the caliphate's rule.

Sara.

-- May 30, 2008 4:52 PM


Sara wrote:

In case you are wondering.. How is that Presidential thing going?
Some polling facts as of today on the GOP versus Dems.. no media spin, just facts.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Friday, May 30, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that John McCain attracting 46% of the vote nationwide while Barack Obama earns 43%. McCain has been “ahead” by at least two percentage points on six of the last seven days (see recent daily results).

On the question of voter trust, McCain retains a slight edge over Obama when it comes to the economy and the War in Iraq. The GOP candidate holds a wide edge on National Security issues. These figures have changed little over the past month.

McCain is viewed favorably by 50% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 47%. Obama’s numbers are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable (see recent daily ratings). Voters see McCain as the candidate most likely to reach across party lines and work effectively with both Republicans and Democrats.

McCain leads 58% to 33% among Evangelical Christians and by six points among other Protestant voters. Consistent with results from many recent state polls, McCain does better among those who attend Church or other religious services on a regular basis. Obama is stronger among those who rarely or never attend services (see other recent demographic notes).

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama holds a 48% to 43% advantage over Clinton nationally (see recent Democratic Nomination results). As noted over two weeks ago, Rasmussen Reports believes the race is over and that Barack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. We will stop tracking the Democratic race in the near future to focus exclusively on the Obama-McCain match-up. Data from Rasmussen Markets give Obama a 91.6 % chance of winning the nomination. Among all voters, Clinton is viewed favorably by 47%.

Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. The general election sample is currently based upon interviews with 1,600 Likely Voters. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis and crosstabs for the full-week results are available for Premium Members. See crosstabs for general election match-ups and favorability ratings.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

-- May 30, 2008 7:53 PM


Carole wrote:

Laura,
Really sorry that your posts were apparently eliminated.

Or more accurately put "censored".

-- May 30, 2008 7:55 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

Thank you for your concern over my post that had been temporarily eliminated.

Sara,

I started looking at this trend of Germany, Italy, China pulling business from Iran. I just can't believe that all these countries are just getting the picture on Iran's nuclear intentions. Even the French oil company, Total pulled it's business from Iran.

Initially, President Bush did not want to let any country do business in Iraq, if the other countries did not contribute in the fighting help within Iraq. However, what I have noticed is that each of these countries is doing some type of business inside of Iraq (self interest).

Total (a French oil company) had a little bit to lose in not doing oil business with Iran. China pulled out of some building projects inside of Iran as did Germany and Italy. Makes one wonder to what extent these countries are no longer not doing anymore business with Iran.

The French oil company, Total stated that they could not earn a big enough profit to do business with Iran that would make there efforts worthwhile. This company made an individual choice. The others appear to be national decisions.

The Iranian President want to meet with the Pope in Rome and it is reported that the Pope gave the job of meeting Iran's President to his deputy as it was noted that Iran is not run by the president but by the clerics. We had the head Iranian cleric over here in the USA last year and no one seemed to notice his visit. I think he was justifying the USA lack of spirituality for his present decisions. This Iranian cleric is certainly behind the decision to go nuclear with their weapons.

Sara, I sure do hope that two plus two doesn't add up to 4 on the nuclear issue for attaching the USA. I know that British intelligence is showing some chatter in Iran that would go in this direction.

However, human rights have gone down the tubes for woman's rights and certainly in that area of choosing one's religious convictions. We must pray for the church, people in general and our leadership in this country and others.

Laura Parker

-- May 30, 2008 9:05 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

Thank you for your concern over my post that had been temporarily eliminated.

Sara,

I started looking at this trend of Germany, Italy, China pulling business from Iran. I just can't believe that all these countries are just getting the picture on Iran's nuclear intentions. Even the French oil company, Total pulled it's business from Iran.

Initially, President Bush did not want to let any country do business in Iraq, if the other countries did not contribute in the fighting help within Iraq. However, what I have noticed is that each of these countries is doing some type of business inside of Iraq (self interest).

Total (a French oil company) had a little bit to lose in not doing oil business with Iran. China pulled out of some building projects inside of Iran as did Germany and Italy. Makes one wonder to what extent these countries are no longer not doing anymore business with Iran.

The French oil company, Total stated that they could not earn a big enough profit to do business with Iran that would make there efforts worthwhile. This company made an individual choice. The others appear to be national decisions.

The Iranian President want to meet with the Pope in Rome and it is reported that the Pope gave the job of meeting Iran's President to his deputy as it was noted that Iran is not run by the president but by the clerics. We had the head Iranian cleric over here in the USA last year and no one seemed to notice his visit. I think he was justifying the USA lack of spirituality for his present decisions. This Iranian cleric is certainly behind the decision to go nuclear with their weapons.

Sara, I sure do hope that two plus two doesn't add up to 4 on the nuclear issue for attaching the USA. I know that British intelligence is showing some chatter in Iran that would go in this direction.

However, human rights have gone down the tubes for woman's rights and certainly in that area of choosing one's religious convictions. We must pray for the church, people in general and our leadership in this country and others.

Laura Parker

-- May 30, 2008 9:09 PM


tim bitts wrote:

Laura, you wrote a couple of comments about Total, the French oil company. I know a thing or two, on the history, of that company, that you might be interested in.

I remember that company being in the news, in Canada, in an article, in a fairly obscure, but reliable right-wing news magazine I used to subscribe to, Alberta Report Magazine. (no longer being published)

This company, Total, has some very questionable political and financial ties, to Canada's political elites.

I read all the local and national newspapers in Canada, and this company had some quite dubious political connections regarding Iraq, and Canada's political elites, but this is not reported on, in our newspapers much. The reason this company and it's shady connections with Canada'a poltical elites is not reported, or discussed, is that the owner of much of the media in Canada, prominent liberal Paul Demarais, is a very powerful man in Canada, and owns a large chunk of the national media, and he also owns a good chunk of Total. So information about this company was covered up, in Canada, and was nowhere to be found in the mainstream media.

What was this information? Well, it turns out, at the time, a few years back, when Canada was trying to figure out, if it should support America, in the invasion of Iraq, that the prime minister of Canada at the time, Jean Chretien, had ties to this company.

Mr. Chretien's daughter is married into a family that is one of the largest shareholders in Total, the Demarais family. Her husband, Paul Demarais Jr, together, with his father, Paul Demarais Sr., co-owns Power Cornporation, owns a substantial share in Total. Now, Total used to have a very, very large financial interest, in the oil business in Iraq.

Total, at one time, had about a quarter of all the foreign owned leasehold agreements, or licences for drilling for oil, in Iraq. How well the Canadian prime minister's daughter did financially, had a lot to do with how things turned out, for Total, in Iraq. When the Bush administration decided to invade Iraq, all of those oil contracts became null and void, until the new regime decided the validity, or lack of validity, of those old oil contracts.

So, Total, who made a lot of money for France, and the Canadian prime minister's family, had a lot to lose, from America invading Iraq.

So, when the Canadian prime minister, Mr. Chretien, was trying to decide whether to support President Bush, in the invasion, or not, he had to decide whether or not to go against the financial interest of his daughter, and son in law. There were other political factors, as well, such as the war was never popular in Quebec, which is in a unique political position in Canada, to have influence, far beyond their numbers, in the population, but my assessment is that personal family financial interests played a role in Canada's government deciding not to support President Bush.

Incidently, this Paul Demarais, Sr., the prominent liberal, has had an incredible influence, behind the scenes, in Canadian politics. Canadian prime minister, from the mid 1960s, till three years ago, almost all of them had a connection to this Paul Demarais Sr. The prime ministers we had that did not work for this man, only lasted a few months, (literally) on the job. Former employees, and shareholders of Power Corporation, and liberal multi-billionaire Paul Demarais, have controlled the media, and the prime minister's office, of Canada, virtually non-stop, since the mid-1960s. And it's never mentioned in the mainstream Canadian press because, as I said, Power Corporation has a large financial interest in a lot of the main newspapers, and television netwerks, in Canada. And election laws in Canada are such that Mr. Demarais, through his bankbook, has bought and sold politicians, and bankrolled ones he favoured, for decades.

And he did it all, without so much as a whisper of a protest, in the Canadian media.

As an indication of how powerful Mr. Demarais is in Canada: The current Canadian prime minister, conservative Stephen Harper, is the first Canadian prime minister, since the mid 1960s, who lasted as prime minister more than a year, and did not have links to the Power Corporation.

So, anyway, France decided not to back America, in going to war with Iraq. The reason? I guess Total produced a lot of money, for the French economy. The French, at the time, must have decided that the invasion would not work. And they actively worked against American interests at the U.N. at the time, I recall. In opposing the war, I guess they were protecting their own interests, meaning the interests of Total. However, things are changing in Iraq. The poltical calculus is different, thanks to President Bush's leadership, and the military surge.

The French proved to be poor allies, to America, in not backing America, in the war, but I'd say they are changing their minde. The French elites are ruthless, unreliable, fair weather friends to America, but quite practical, in my opinion. If a large French company like Total, is giving up oil business in Iran, a large oil supplier, my guess is, they are taking a guess, as to which way, the wind is blowing, in Iraq. The future of Iraq will see the Iraqi oil business dominated by companies in the private sector. Iraq is simply incapable of producing the necessary technical and business leaders necessary to fully develop their own economy. They need outside help. The French obviously think the Americans will be successful in Iraq, and they wish to get in on the action. Their will be a tremendous amount of money to be made in Iraq, in the coming decades. I'm talking trillions of dollars of profit, for oil companies.

The French will now side with America, as long as America wins in Iraq, and then they will pursue their old leasehold agreements in Iraqi courts, hoping to win some of their power, and oil money back. So, I see the French moves, to do business in Iraq, not Iran, and other countries abandoning projects with Iraq, may be a vote of confidence, in the American mission, in Iraq. I hope I'm right.

Anyhow, there are other large factors at play, of course, like the nuke question, but oil and money also play a role.

-- May 31, 2008 2:10 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

Concerning your comment, "Sara, I sure do hope that two plus two doesn't add up to 4 on the nuclear issue for attacking the USA. I know that British intelligence is showing some chatter in Iran that would go in this direction..."

It was just such thinking as I have posted here.. of two plus two possibly equalling four.. which got us into Iraq.
The reason for going into Iraq was that we all felt that Saddam had WMD (as Iran is about to have nuclear weapons) and that he might then give them to the terrorists, because he had ties to them (as Iran has ties to terrorists now), resulting in a threat to the international community.

===

Rice: Bush 'Was Very Clear About the Reasons for Going to War' in Iraq
Thursday, May 29, 2008

STOCKHOLM, Sweden — U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday rejected allegations from a former White House spokesman who says the Bush administration misled the American public into going to war with Iraq.

Rice would not comment specifically on charges made by ex-press secretary Scott McClellan in a new book, but said President Bush was honest and forthright about the reasons for the war. She also said she remained convinced that toppling Saddam Hussein was right and necessary.

"The president was very clear about the reasons for going to war," she told reporters at a news conference with Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt in Stockholm where she is attending an international conference on Iraq.

Chief among those reasons was the belief, shared widely before the war, that Saddam Hussein had or was developing weapons of mass destruction, Rice recalled, suggesting the international community shouldn't have backed harsh sanctions against Iraq if it doubted the threat.

"I am not going to comment on a book that I haven't read," she said, referring to McClellan's scathing memoir, "but what I will say is that the concern about weapons of mass destruction in Saddam Hussein's Iraq was the fundamental reason."

"It was not the United States of America alone that believed that he had weapons of mass destruction that he was hiding," Rice said, dismissing suggestions that the administration knew the intelligence was incorrect.

"The story is there for everyone to see, you can't now transplant yourself into the present and say we should have known what we in fact did not know in 2001 and 2002," she said. "The record on weapons of mass destruction was one that appeared to be very clear."

Those who were skeptical should have spoken up at the time and argued against U.N. sanctions such as the oil-for-food program, she said.

"The threat from Saddam Hussein was well understood," Rice said. "You can agree or disagree about the decision to liberate Iraq in 2003, but I would really ask that if you ... believe he was not a threat to the international community, then why in the world were you allowing the Iraqi people to suffer under the terms of oil-for-food."

The heart of the McClellan book concerns Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq, a determination McClellan says the president had made by early 2002 — at least a full year before the invasion — if not even earlier.

However, McClellan wrote that he did not believe Bush or the White House "deliberately or consciously sought to deceive the American people."

The White House responded angrily Wednesday to McClellan's memoir, calling it self-serving sour grapes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,359582,00.html

McClellan may argue he believes that the President had made the determination to go to war a year earlier.. but the President did not single-handedly authorize the war.. the Congress voted to go to war. And all who voted, including the DEMOCRATS who voted to go to war think they are off the hook if they can only prove the intent of the President was towards war before they authorized it? Not likely.

Anyway, as I said, the reasoning behind going into Iraq was a lot to do with WMD - a threat to the international community, and therefore the possible threat to the safety and protection of the Homeland of America (which had just been attacked). As a result of the decision to go into Iraq, America has not had a recurrence of 911 on US soil while President Bush has been in the Whitehouse. The butcher of Baghdad was removed and brought to justice, which stopped his rape rooms and indiscriminate killings, liberated a country, established a Democracy and we are now seeing success on every hand for the Iraqi people. And this was.. errr.. "false" reasoning?? Seems pretty successful to me.

So the next thing is that these people don't like that kind of reasoning (mainly Democrats).. that two plus two might possibly equal four.. think we should never do that again. As a result, they have made holding that position very unpopular so that America now will elect a sympathizer to their viewpoints into the Whitehouse. As you know, McCain opposed a lot of President Bush's measures.. so "two plus two equals four" is likely not the way McCain will think when he takes power, but he (and other conservatives pushed by such leftist thinkers) will think like them and not choose this kind of course of preemptive action. And through that (leftist applauded) inaction, we will have the opportunity to see how things would have gone under the Bush Presidency had he and Congress not authorized the thought process and conclusion of two plus two possibly being equal to four. And we will also have to live with any results from their course of thinking, including any WMD attacks on US soil. President Bush may be unpopular for his stand to protect the American people, but no one can accuse him of allowing a WMD attack on US soil under his leadership. Let's see if the leftist thinkers and McCain can claim the same by disavowing this kind of leadership and reasoning with the next threat of Iran.

At the moment, I am quite happy with where this 2+2=4 thinking has taken America. The casualties are low comparatively to a WMD attack on a major US city, and there is benefit for the Iraqi people and hopes of a more peaceful and Democratic Middle Eastern region. The enemy Al Qaida has been defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia - and the terrorists are on the run and being hunted down successfully. The terrorists are also saying maybe their wholesale and bloody pursuit of violence isn't the way to go. There is also emerging a security for future supplies of oil out of Iraq to many thirsty parts of the world which were not getting it before under Saddam, as well as strong development of the oil sector for increasing production which the world will benefit from.. including the US. The Iraqi people are seeing an emerging peace, prosperity and freedom for themselves and their nation. And now, we will see a pullback from this successful strategy by a lurch LEFTWARD in the election of the next President. I hope the American people take a hard look at who else they put in Congress to defend their safety and interests, since their lives are still at stake, even if the MSM and leftists continue to tout this unproven viewpoint that says if America had ONLY not gone this way we would be better off. I think looking at where we are now from where we were on 911 that we have done very well. Their fantasy that we would have been better off not to go this way is totally unproven and we know from those tapes that Saddam was discussing a WMD attack on the US and was one year from having the bomb:

As The New York Times confirmed in their issue November 3, 2006, Saddam had complete plans for a nuclear weapon and was in the process of procuring parts when the US removed him. Quote: "nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away." [60]
Additionally, tapes with Saddam speaking on them also surfaced and certain sinister remarks Saddam made on the tapes were translated which showed that he threatened to use WMD on Washington, DC. In the article , "Saddam Translator: ABC Reinterpreted Tapes" dated Feb. 17th 2006, the FBI translator who supplied the 12 hours of Saddam Hussein audiotapes excerpted by ABC's "Nightline" says the network discarded his translations and went with a less threatening version of the Iraqi dictator's comments. In the "Nightline" version of the 1996 recording, Saddam predicts that Washington, D.C., would be hit by terrorists. But he adds that Iraq would have nothing to do with the attack. Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity. In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?" [61]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction

So I argue they are wrong and we would not have been better off not to go into Iraq.. and now we will get to see what their position of "'peace, peace' when-there-is-no-peace-possible" will bring. Inaction has consequences just as action (authorizing the war in Iraq) did. Does two plus two equal four? If it does and they stop thinking 2+2=4, then we will see an attack on America by the terrorists using Iranian supplied nuclear bombs. So let's hope not.. but it seems rational to me.. as it once did to all those in Congress and the Whitehouse who thought this way and authorized this war based on this same reasoning that they now disavow.. reasoning which to this date has kept the Homeland of America safe from weapons of mass destruction.

Sara.

-- May 31, 2008 1:14 PM


Sara wrote:

Iran Endorses Obama for President

A change in foreign policy.. is just what Iran wants.
The "failed" policy that the US is "mistakenly" following.. (according to them) can be remedied by putting into power the Democrat party's spokesman for "change" - Obama.
This is as close to an outright endorsement by Iran of Obama as you can get.
Let's see now, the Hamas and now Iran.. when your enemies endorse a Presidential candidate.. doesn't that tell you whose best interests that candidate holds at heart?
Already, McCain is too far left for those who still think 2+2=4, but he is a lot closer to that thinking than Obama will ever be.. Do Americans really see that this is their lives on the line, and Iran is an emerging threat to their collective security?

===

Iran's foreign minister slams US foreign policy
By LOUISE NORDSTROM
May 31, 2008

STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) — Iran's foreign minister said Friday that the United States should conduct a "serious review" of its foreign policy after the presidential election — a signal that Iran is leaving open the possibility of improved relations with Washington.

"We don't want to make a problem for the American presidential candidates, but this election is among a limited number of American presidential elections where foreign policy plays a key role," Mottaki said a day after a U.N. conference on Iraqi reconstruction held outside Stockholm.

"The American people need change," he added.

Mottaki did not go deeper into Iran's impressions of the remaining candidates seeking the White House. But Barack Obama has expressed a willingness to open new channels with Iran — a position that has drawn fire from Republican John McCain and Obama's Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Speaking through an interpreter at the Iranian Embassy in Stockholm, Mottaki said Iran was less concerned with "parties and people" than the course of U.S. policies after the election.

"The United States of America needs a serious review of its foreign policy toward the Middle East," he said. "These policies in ... Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine and generally speaking the Middle East are mistaken policies."

Mottaki said the next resident of the White House must break with "the mistaken and failed policies" of the Bush administration or risk a further decline of the United States' standing in the Middle East.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Tom Casey was dismissive after a reporter described Mottaki's comments.

"Gee, an Iranian foreign minister criticizing U.S. policy. There's a real man bites dog story for you, huh?" he said.

Casey added that the "Iranian government is pursuing policies that are inimical to the interests of the Iranian people" and isolating the country from the international community by the standoff over its nuclear program.

"I would also hope that those in the Iranian government who might wish to have a more responsible leadership might also turn that mirror back up to him to take a very hard look at the unproductive, unhelpful and destabilizing policies that Iran is pursuing," he said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igJMS7Pm5qDJdUGr8owlowIGQlkwD91080JO0

Maybe the Iranians not pursuing nuclear weapons instead of trying to get the US to back away from letting them have them to do with as they please.. would be more constructive?

Sara.

-- May 31, 2008 2:58 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Dr. Fadl Changes his mind.

Dr. Fadl changed his mind recently, and what he had to say will have a large impact on the world.

Most people will never hear of Dr. Fadl. They won't know who his is, why he is important. Dr. Fadl is very prominent Muslim thinker and intellectual, and yet most Muslims will never know who he is.

He was born Sayyid Imman al-Sharif, but goes by the name Dr. Fadl. The "al-Sharif" in his name indicates he is a direct decendant of the prophet Mohammed. He comes from one of the most respected families within the Muslim world. He's a real doctor, a brilliant one, by all accounts, an author, political leader, and leading Islamist. He is also one of the world's leading authorities on Islamic law, which is based of course, almost entirely on the Koran, and the Hadith, or sayings of the prophet, knowledge of which determines almost the entire Muslim way of life. He is the former head of the Egyptian terrorist group, Al Jihad. Members of Al Jihad became the core, founding group of Al Qaeda, among them Ayman al-Zawahiri, who is Osama bin Laden's chief lieutenant. Dr. Fadl was one of the first members of Al Qaeda's top councils, so he has tremendous credibility within the Islamist movement. He is the man who formalized the rules, for holy war, and gave terrorists intellectual respectability, in the Muslim world, in his master work, "The Compendium of the Pursuit of Divine Knowledge", which provided religious justification for rejecting democracy and the rule of law, while justifying suicide bombing and the killing of innocent bystanders, and non-Muslims, and justified killing humans on the basis of their nationality. Americans were at the top, of that list. The book also included an attack on women's right's and equality, and ideas within the book were used to justify violence against women. The Compendium was the basis for radical Muslim theology. This book was, of course, a declaration of war against all the ideas that underpin Western democracies. (the book was also published under the name Guide to the Path of Righteousness for Jihad and Belief, which was published under various pseudonyms)

Twenty years ago, Dr. Fadl wrote The Compendium, which became one of the most influential books within the Islamist movement. Al Qaeda used those scholarly religious books to indoctrinate and train recruits, and to provide moral and religious justification for their terrorist actions.

Twenty years later, and perhaps a little wiser, Dr. Fadl has written a new book, where he overthrows much of his old belief system, which used religion to justify terrorism. He now denounces terrorism, and the tactics of terrorists, as being immoral. While remaining an extremely devout Muslim, he changed his views about the use of violence against innocent people, which is to say, he no longer supports terrorism. A critical mistake he made, in The Compendium, was justifying terrorism, in situations where Muslims end up getting killed. This stupid and evil practice has turned many Muslims against terrorism. Dr. Fadl now says it is immoral for Muslims to practice terrorism. In addition, in Iraq, members of Al Qaeda, in a complete perversion of even radical Muslim beliefs, raped many women, and young boys, which has turned many Muslims against that organization, and it's tactics. Dr. Fadl now says, "We are prohibited from committing aggression, even if the enemies of Islam do that." Dr. Fadl's defection is very bad news for terrorist, because he undermines their authority. Muslims listen to the man, and respect him. Already, a substantial number of terrorist have renounced violence.

However, many extremist Muslims disagree with Dr. Fadl, and feel misled, or betrayed. The theological argument, on the morality of terrorism, is far from over, in the Muslim world. Historically, quite unlike Christianity, Islam was a religion born of conflict, and much of the Q'ran contains verses that argue about and justify, the use of aggression, in spreading faith in God. In my opinion, Islam is a religion that is naturally predisposed, to fairly easily take a turn toward radicalism, especially by weak minded people who take everything they read literally, and lack imagination. So it will take strong leadership, within the Muslim world, to make sure that Islam does not become solely an instrument of aggression.

It's too early to put nails in the coffin of Al Qaeda, but the implications of Dr. Fadl's defection have enormous implications for the West. The truth is, in my opinion, that humans, of whatever religion, ethnicity, are hierarchical creatures, looking to, and deferring to, those leaders within their group, who they trust the most. They defer to leaders who embody the most, the essential ideas of their particular group. Humans will defer to political leaders, and they will defer to those humans, within their groups, who are the intellectual leaders as well. Intellectual leaders have enormous influence, for good and for bad, depending on what they promote.

This influence, from intellectual leaders is often indirect, and takes time to be felt, but in the long run, is the strongest influence of all. Take Karl Marx, for example. He was an obscure Jewish intellectual who couldn't hold down a job, for much of his life. He wrote The Communist Manifesto, a summary of Communist ideas. Other men took his ideas, which were completely wrongheaded and senseless, in my opinion, and they organized revolutions, and controlled societies, based on working out the principles that were explained, in communist writings. For much of the twentieth century, the conflict between Communism and Capitalist democracy dominated the planet. As far away as China, a billion people had their societies reorganized, on the basis of some writings by the once obscure German Jewish thinker. And of course, the Cold War between America, and the Soviet Union was based on the conflict that those writings brought into the world. The Cold War, of course, dominated the political and military energy of America for a good part of the last century, and to some degree, affects us even today.

So the point I'm making is obvious: What intellectuals in Islam have to say, is every bit as important as what the leading intellectuals of Europe and America have to say. Whatever Islamic thinkers come to think about democracy, terrorism, and how their societies should respond to, and fit in, the modern world, will have an awful lot to do with, how much peace their is, between Islam and the West, this century.

This sort of thing is not commented upon much, in the Western press, because of the worldview of most liberal Western thinkers, who see the conflict between Islam and the West, as entirely the fault of the West, and America's so-called meddling in the region. Or, even more ludicrous, many naive Western liberals ignorantly blame President Bush. Which is completely ludicrous because there are two sides in this conflict, and the ideas of terrorism, put out by their Muslim intellectual leaders, which have been accepted by many Muslims, are what keeps the conflict going.

The conflict between Islam and the West is, in many ways, a reflection of the conflict within Islam itself. Historically, Islam at one time was considered a much more intellectually progressive religion than Christianity. Islam produced influential thinkers and scientists, long before European Christian culture did so. But the Muslim world slid back terribly. I remember reading in a National Geographic once about a comparison between the entire current middle eastern Arab part of the Islamic world, which has a combined population level rivaling Europe. Anyhow, the comparison was about the number of books translated into the Arabic language, and the number of books translated into Spanish, which is just one European language. It turns out, currently, if you add up the number of books translated into Spanish, each and every year, it equals the number of books translated into Arabic, over the course of a thousand years. That's a pretty good indicator of what went wrong, in the Muslim world. They turned off their brains, in many ways. The exception to this was religious based writing, of which the Muslim world has always produced in great quantities, and often of exceptionally high quality.

Now that Europeans have created a modern world, Muslims, who once dominated the world, don't know how to react to the overwheming might of the Western world. Al Qaeda is an example of this. It's an indication of the fight, within Islam, to adapt to the modern world, which it finds threatening. It finds the modern world threatening, in my opinion, because prominent Muslims realize that their societies are so corrupt, and incompetant, and quite frankly inferior, compared to European societies, including America, which comes mostly from Euroepean and Christian origins. Because of political correctness, it is considered, by liberals, to be an unpardonable sin, to be honest and upfront about other cultures and religions, and to say only pleasant and flattering things about other religions and cultures. I admire, tremendously, Islam as it was, when it produced floursishing, tolerant, mentally alive cultures, a thousand years ago, but not so much now. Their their societies, much moreso than European countries, are intellectually centred upon religion, namely the Muslim faith, which unlike Christianity, has failed to adapt to the modern world, and which often in it's current form, belongs in the Middle Ages, not in the modern world. So, I see Dr. Fadl's writings as an attempt by a brilliant Muslim man, to steer his culture, and faith, into the modern world. He first embraced violence, and he now denounces it. That change is a good thing, because he will convince a lot of young Muslims to renounce violence, modernize their societies, and religions, to avoid conflict.

So I think Dr. Fadl's view, the way they are changing, are potentially a very good thing, for the whole world. Being a highly respected Muslim, he can change, and influence, and lead Muslims toward reform, in a way that no Western leader ever could hope to do. Neither President Bush, nor any European or Christian leader, as good or as well-intentioned or wise as they may be, will ever be trusted by the Muslim man in the street. The differences between Islam and Christianity are broad enough and deep enough and long lasting enough that there is simply no way any Westerner will be completely trusted by the Muslim world. Islam is so central to their sense of identity, to who they are as humans, that there is simply no way they will ever completely trust Europeans. Westerners can talk to Muslims, negotiate with them, fight with them or be friends with them on a personal level, but Muslims, whether they are living in their home countries, or in the West, because of the nature of their religion, will never themselves feel fully integrated into the West in my opinion.

However, I think the best we can hope for, for peace, is if Muslims and Christians work out a common set of principles and ideas, to live in peace. By renouncing violence, Dr. Fadl has helped the Muslim world take a step toward that common understanding, and set of principles, by which humans can work toward a more peaceful future.

Intellectuals have a special responsibility to mankind. If their ideas are good, moral and correct, they can be of tremendous benefit to mankind. If they are wrong, or evil, as the Communist Manifesto and The Compendium of the Pursuit of Divine Knowledge are and were, they can do great harm to the world. Let's hope Dr. Fadl's change of heart is a trend, in the Muslim world. Whatever happens, Dr. Fadl's change of heart is an enormous loss, and spiritual defeat, for the radicals and peddlers of hate, within Islam. However, it is very difficult for religions to evolve. It often takes centuries. While Dr. Fadl's change of heart is welcome, and big news, in my opinion, the conflict between Islam and the West will keep going, on and off, and then on again, for several centuries more.

And that, fellow investor, brings me back to the Iraqi Dinar, and you the reader of some of my thoughts. As is obvious, I am fascinated by history, and politics, and war, and how it plays out, in the real world. That's one of the reasons I invested in the Iraqi Dinar. I have a number of very standard and normal investments, but the Iraqi Dinar is the only investment I have, where can read history, watch the news, trying to understand it, and know it will affect, a substantial financial investment I have made in the Dinar. My rich uncle once told me, invest in what you know about. Good advice. I know a fair bit about real estate, so I invested in real estate. I'm fascinated by history, so I invested in the Iraqi Dinar. I continue to believe, for a wide variety of reasons, that Iraq is the most important emerging economies, in the next 20 years, and that your investment in the Dinar, and mine, will pay off very handsomely, in the future.

And it's extremely cool to know, my investment is a very small part of, a very fascinating story.

-- May 31, 2008 3:31 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, timbitts.. a great read.
I appreciate your insights and perspectives.
I agree with you, too.
Thank you. :)

Sara.

-- May 31, 2008 4:46 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

Very interesting reading on the topic of Total Oil Company and also your interest in history. I just finished watching History Channel on the Kings of Babylon-- which is Iraq. Iraq has been a country of one conqueror after another.

The only real time that Iraq got to rule itself was in the coup of the appointed British Monarch that Britain picked from Mecca. He wasn't even an Iraqi. He was a muslem from the Sunni side and a descendant of Mohammed. I found after watching this history of Iraq---that I have a better understanding of what the regular Iraqi citizen maybe feeling.

The American attack has brought the Iraqi citizen their freedom for the first time. I believe, the Iraqi wants to be free but doesn't know how to do a democracy. This is to say, how does an Iraqi handle freedom, when one has never had this freedom?.

I too, Tim, find the story of Iraq exciting. The United States of America is nation building. I believe, if america does the nation building correctly, we americans may have friends in the persian gulf that will stand against terrorism. Of course, Iran will be a problem through this process.

The history channel outlined that Persia (Iran) has attacked Iraq and ruled this country several times in Iraq's history. Iran (Persia) also ruled Syria and Turkey at one time. It is also true that Syria (Assyria) ruled Iran, Iraq, and Turkey.

Even Iraq (Babylon) ruled over the Syrians and quite a bit of territory. I am not sure, but I think at one time Babylon (Iraq) ruled Iran. These countries are inter-connected and I am not so sure that each of these countries trust each other due to their history.

Most of the country is peasants and the rulers have iqnored the citizens of Iraq's poverty. I think each day has been about mere survival. Their religion is probably a comfort to them, at least I hope. This does not mean that I agree about their conclusions of what they believe, but that I hope in their poverty that they are able to get comfort from their religious beliefs.

On top of all these conquests, Britain conquered Iraq in World War I, Alexander the Great conquered Iraq, The Monguels conquered Iraq. Their history sounds just like Judea.

Thought you all might want to know, if you don't know already.

Sara,

I am still hoping you are wrong about 2 plus 2=4. I am hoping for a world that lives in peace. However, with what has been happening, I am not hopeful.

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 1:40 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

Another thought about Total Oil Company. They may suspect that USA is going to attack Iran over their nuclear facilities and decided it was time to pull the plug on their business in Iran. As you said, they assessed which way the wind is blowing. I think they are right about this conclusion, if McCain gets into office or Bush decides to go after these nuclear facilities.

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 1:47 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura,

thanks. The pattern you describe, of countries not having much freedom, always being conquered and abused by neighbors, is pretty much the pattern of much of the world, for the last several thousand years. America is a country that is an exception to this rule, and quite unique, in it's development. For instance, America has never been occupied by a foreign power. I was aware of this history, and it explains a lot of the mistrust Iraqis have toward other Muslim countries, and the mistrust they have toward the United Sates. If a man has been kicked a lot, by the last twenty boots he has seen, then when he sees another pair of boots show up, he expects to be kicked. That's why the perception in Iraq, of foreign invaders is often distrustful. It's hard for Iraqis to understand that America has good intentions.

Also, I read a column by a Muslim women, who is a very good writer, for one of Canada's two national newspaper. She discussed a worldwide survey, of Muslims, about democracy. It turned out, no surprise, a large majority of Muslims want democracy. So, in Iraq, President Bush is on the right track. It is what the people want. It will just take some time. As you say, in a situation like Iraq, they just don't know how to deal with it right away. It'll take them a bit of time. Also, they have been invaded and abused so long, most of them simply cannot comprehend that America actually has good intentions in the region, and would be happy to help them rebuild their country and their economy. Building trust will take time. If America sticks to it, they will be successful in Iraq, in transplanting democracy, much like they were successful in Germany, and Japan.

The best thing America could do, in regards to Iraq, is stick with it, be strong, and be genuine in trying to help. Respect the people, their faith, even if you would disagree with it. And as much and as quickly as possible, let them run their own country. And I think this is exactly what President Bush has tried to do, so far. For instance, the Iraqi Army is well on their way to being the internal security force, for the whole country.

My real concern, of course, is the small group of radicals, within Islam, who use their faith for evil, and destructive purposes. With those people there can be no talk, no compromise, unless they abandon their evil beliefs.

Isn't it neat that you can turn on the History Channel, watch something like the history of another faith, another part of the world, and know you are now part of that story? I have been interested in the history of that area, as an occasional hobby, for over twenty years, but since 9-11, and since I invested in the Dinar, I find myself reading a lot about it, from all kinds of different places, as a hobby.

The comments I made about Dr. Fadl came from an article in The New Yorker, that I read.

-- June 1, 2008 9:37 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim,

Actually, you are wrong about America not being occupied by a foreign power. The Japanese occupied part of the aleutian islands during World War II.

However, I get your point that the mainland of america has never been occupied by a foreign force. I believe america has been fortunate. We (as a country) have been truly blessed. I hope we will continue to have God's favor and blessing as a nation.

One can see how God can influence nations according to self interest which Sara and Carole have been discussing in their previous posts.

Sara and Carole,

We need to keep Iran's new Christian converts in our prayers. They are talking about executing these individuals in changing their laws. In any case, our new brothers and sisters in Christ are facing mistreatment and possible death at the hands of the persians (Iran).

I still believe america will be successful in Iraq due to scripture. However, Iran will be a thorn in our sides throughout this process. It maybe that the Lord is weaking Iran through these sanctions and individual countries self interest at this time.

One of the items that distress me is how these sanctions on Iran will hurt the very poor to feed and cloth themselves. It does not seem to me that the clerics in Iran are really connected to the people. Human rights and dignity are at the very bottom of the ladder in Iran.

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 4:10 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I want to bring your attention to a news item related to USA intention to attack Iran over their meddling in Iraq and nuclear facilities.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle East/JE28Ak01.html

Also anyone interested in Christian Issues; Sara, Carole, Rob N. etc.
See an article entitled: Muslims Equate Christian Missionaries With Terrorists

http://www.Worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65447


I found this reading interesting. It appears that Muslims do not know how to talk with Christians about our faith without killing us.

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 6:58 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Board,

See Two articles:

US Plans Attack Against Iran

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle East/JE28Ak01.html

Muslims Equate Christian Missionaries With Terrorists

http://www.Worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=Page.view&pageId=65447

I thought you might want to see these items. The first is an article citing that USA is planning attack within two months against the Qods in Iran for medding in Iraq's affairs and it may have something to do with nuclear facilities.

The Second article is interesting to those of you with Christian faith. It would appear that Muslims do not know how to talk with Christians about their faith. Instead, it is, kill the christians for allowing muslims to have free choice of religion upon hearing about christian faith.

To be fair, both faiths are missionary in origin. Muslim believe it is right that they have the right to do missionary work with christians and the rest of the world to convert to Islam. However, muslims do not believe this same right translates to christians in the opposite direction.

Interesting!

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 7:23 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I guess the first entry got held up in the hopper again. I wrote the second when the first did not appear. Then, they were both there.

Sorry about double posts!

Laura Parker

-- June 1, 2008 7:26 PM


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-- June 1, 2008 8:29 PM