Dinar Discussion MARCH 2008

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New page for you to continue the discussion.

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-- March 3, 2008 10:49 AM


Sara wrote:

US Treasury sees 'window of opportunity' for Iraq economic reform
02/29/08

WASHINGTON (Thomson Financial) - Iraq's government has made real progress on economic reform over the last year, and with better security now has a chance to make much more progress improving the standard of living of its people, a senior US Treasury official said today.

"There is a window of opportunity on the economic reform side that has been created by the security improvement," Undersecretary of Treasury for International Affairs David McCormick told reporters in a briefing after returning from two days of meetings with Iraqi economic officials in Baghdad. Now, it is "critical that they seize the opportunity on the economic side," he said.

Over the past year, for example, headline inflation has fallen below 2 pct from more than 65 pct at the end of 2006. The government has also signed a new economic program and stand-by lending agreement with the International Monetary Fund. It sets out economic benchmarks but does not provide immediate loans.

The IMF said "despite difficult conditions, Iraq has made progress toward stabilizing the economy," but that the economic outlook "hinges on improved security." The 2008 program includes maintaining lower inflation and expanding infrastructure projects in electricity, water, sanitation, education and health care.

McCormick emphasized that US Treasury technical assistance will focus on what officials call "budget execution" as the key reform goal ahead. That is a somewhat euphemistic way of referring to the fact that Iraq has lacked even the basic administrative ability to spend the oil revenue or aid accumulating in the government accounts, and lacked any reasonable accounting system to prevent massive portions of what it did spend from being diverted by corruption.

But McCormick said Iraq has made enough progress that there is a shift from reconstruction to development and toward building governing and banking capacity. Treasury also plans on doubling its assistance staff in Iraq to 24.

McCormick would not accept the wording, but he did seem to be describing a situation in which, despite ongoing stalemate at the political level, there are bureaucrats in the government who still manage to make progress on some basic economic issues.

One particular political stalemate, the inability to pass an oil revenue distribution law, does remain a significant barrier to economic reform and progress in the average Iraqi's standard of living, McCormick said.

http://www.forextv.com/Forex/News/ShowStory.jsp?seq=263356

-- March 3, 2008 10:54 AM


DinarAdmin wrote:

I intend to repost the information from March 1 and 2 so there is a "monthly" log.

DinarAdmin

-- March 3, 2008 11:08 AM


Sara wrote:

Not a FREE or REAL monetary value for the Dinar

Rob N, thanks for the great posts. :)

You asked, "I would like to get you're opinions regarding M2 and the value of the Dinar. Does either an increase or decrease in M2 affect the value of the Dinar?"

My view is that NOTHING affects the value of the Dinar directly. It all goes through a process which is not market or demand driven, really. It is not in that sense "free"... therefore the value of the Dinar may be moved up or down but it isn't a direct relationship, someone (think of it as a cartel) is behind it moving the levers of economic value. So the M2 will only affect the Dinar value if the persons who are behind the daily values base their valuations on the increase or decrease of the M2. There is no direct relationship as it is not free floating with market force volatility affecting its value. It is what they call "a managed float". We see it move up and down, but it is not really in response to the market, but in response to the managers who are "managing" the float and what they call once they see various factors which may affect its value (such as the M2, economy, etc). Have you noted in all the money documents which come out that they praise the Iraqi money managers for doing a good job with setting the value of the Dinar and keeping it well managed? Iraq does not have a true free market value or a free float. It has money managers who manage the value of the Dinar and do so within set guidelines, as those documents point out.

Roger put it best here: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2007/03/iraqi_dinar_dis_8.html#131962
when he wrote to Laura about the "monopoly money" scenerio we now have.
Please indulge me for that excellent quote from Roger:
Laura,

If I think what your asking for I have an answer to you, but I'm a bit in the blue as to what bank you are referring to when you say that "The Dollar was bought up and the Dinar buying was down at one point".

I assume you are referring to the CBI's official page where the daily auction is announced and where it says how much Dollar was sold and how much was bought.

Well, actually it is not Dinars that are bought and sold, it is Dollars.

CBI issues Dinars, and have as many of them as you could wish for, but have to control the amount in circulation.

The auction is a mean for CBI to legitimize a value for the Dinar.

Imagine you are sitting on a desolate island, and have only monopoly money, worth nothing, but there are a couple of other people on this island, and you have all declared it a nation of your own.

Na monopoly money was perhaps not a good example, but lets say you have printed up a lot of bills, and you call them Credits.

You have 1, 5, 10 25 Credit bills, and you have a bundle of them.

You must create some kind of value to those bills, and one of the simplest ways is to have those bills exchanged somewhere toward a big and known currency. (Dollar)

You are producing fish, fish oil, and sheep wool in abundance from that small little island.

From those products you are getting Dollars.

Here is the trick...set any value you want on your Credit's, and make an auction out of it,.... but you can only buy the Dollar offered, with your Credits that you have neatly printed up in different denominations for your island kingdom.

If you bought much or little doesn't matter, because you have already in before hand set the exchange rate.

Just by the fact that you now have an auction and have in fact done an exchange between Dollar and Credits, make the Credits officially exchangeable with Dollar to that rate you set for that day.

The amount of Dollar bought or sold is of less importance. That's just smoke and mirrors, the RATE you bought or sold it for is the key.

Once you have established an exchange rate with one currency you will automatically have a level of exchange rate with other currencies as well.

You can now officially circulate your Credits on your island kingdom, and announce that they have already been exchanged for Dollars with such and such value, so...that is the value your Island Kingdom Credits are worth.

The Iraqi auction is an in-house auction, they're basically selling to themselves, so the money bought and sold stays in the house.

The amount you see on the auction site doesn't really reflect anything more other than how much Dollars they sold that day, it doesn't reflect the total state income.

Usually they put up as much Dollar on the auction that they need for their daily state budget.

Iraq is not a poor nation with any means, just a confused nation. Iraq have very big reserves both in Dollar and Gold.( and of course very very big reserves in oil)

Some bloggers have been spinning on the idea that the Iraqis are buying up Dinars with Dollars on the auction.

That's not the way it works.

They can withdraw and destroy as much Dinars they wish without auction, for heavens sake, they're sitting on them.

No need to buy anything with any Dollars, you just need to open a door and cart out a load of Dinars, if you want more in circulation, or burn some, whatever you wish.

The Dinar, the vast amount of bundles of paper they're storing...THAT is what they fork up for the Dollar.

Dollars that are bought by Dinars (in the auction) can be bought by either new issued Dinars OR old circulated Dinars.

So Laura, the amount of Dollar sold one day in comparison with another day, is of lesser significance.

===end quote===

So you see, we are not dealing with a real world scenerio.. we are in an "Island Kingdom" playing a monopoly game.. which has no relationship to the real world, the real Dinar value or the cash, gold and oil reserves of Iraq. It is based on the value set by the "king" in the scenerio that Roger outlined, not on the value of the cash, gold or oil.. or the M2 supply.

You then ask, "What if the Dinar is allowed to free float within the specific limits of cash reserves and gold? How will this affect the value of the Dinar?"

Here we are finally speaking of real market value.. a FREE FLOAT.. within the limits of its cash reserves and gold. This is now out of monopoly land. Certainly within that scenerio, Iraq would come out at LEAST as valuable as its neighboring countries.. in the 30 cent USD range. I cannot see that Iraqi currency is worth LESS than their neighboring countries' currency, in a free floating REAL market value.

As for the higher valuations often mentioned on other Dinar sites, it is only when people figure in the idea of monetizing the oil reserves.. which adds to the cash and gold figure.. that they come up with those larger valuations. Put on the market now at its current value, I think it is worth around 30 cents USD.

I think the 30 cents USD valuation is a good starting point for a truly free Iraqi currency and I believe it would have that value as solidly as the surrounding countries do. Why do they not allow this to happen? One scenerio which I have supposed is that they consider the potential for war with Iran so great that this would harm the fledgling new value so they are unwilling to allow it. Iran making war a constant reality (through helping militants) and threat (through seeking nuclear arms) could be a very influential factor preventing the "money managers" from being comfortable with giving Iraq the ability to trade freely (as do other currencies) based on their real worth (cash and gold reserves). Perhaps we are stuck in a monopoly game without end or real value to the Dinar instead of the real world based on their fears of Iran creating war if they go to real time instead of fairytales. In the monopoly world they have created, they can live in their imaginary kingdom forever.. without it affecting their currency. If they let it go to market.. they don't know what will happen. Stability is a key to investment so they keep their currency stable this way. Smoke and mirrors as Roger said... indeed.

Another scenerio I toy with when I read a lot about the corruption in Iraq is this.. We keep hoping for a RV.. but they never have to give one. They can live in fairyland forever if they wish to. They don't ever have to join the real world. They just make it LOOK real. There are no market forces changing the value of the Dinar. It is completely internally driven. They take our dollars when we buy Dinars and that is real money for monopoly money. They take real money for the goods they sell, too. But they never have to make their monopoly money worth anything on the market if they do not want to. They are insulated from the real world and can choose to stay that way.. impoverishing the population forever while the king and his court get their cut of the real money and wealth flowing through the country. They are monetary imperialists.. that is, they extend their authority over the people by establishing an economic stranglehold on the wealth of the country by their artificially setting the value of the Dinar.

Take your pick.. or suggest one of your own. Why do you think they live in monopoly land instead of in the real world? Are they unwilling to let the "infidels" get the real value of their currency, and so enrich us? Is it religiously motivated? Is it due to fears of war? Due to corruption and greed? Due to a desire to have power over the people and keep them impoverished? There are many scenerios.. only God knows I guess. Which do you think most viable?

I go back to the spiritual causes (because they are the highest and rule over all). Remember what I shared about seeing those huge spirits of Persia which have been there since the time of Daniel? Spiritually, there are forces which do not wish to allow it. Do they use false religious views about enriching the evil West, Iraqi greed, corruption, power-mongering and fears of war to further their aims to keep the Iraqi people impoverished and at their mercy? (They have no mercy, by the way - see the news for what they motivate men to do to keep Iraq unstable.) Well.. I certainly think they are doing so... manipulating us humans for their infernal purposes, I mean. My view is to wait on God until He moves to make this happen.. as I am certain He wills it to go and will work it all out somehow in His way and time. I don't think the problem is political.. it is spiritual as the powers of darkness use these factors to prevent the RV... playing on fears, corruption, greed or lust for power. I'm just sad to see so many are their puppets. They have come so close to doing the right thing.. then pull back as the powers of darkness appeal to the human factors of greed, lust, fear, false religious zeal or false patriotism, etc. I wonder how long they can continue to do so.. how long they will remain in their grasp.

Sara.

-- March 3, 2008 11:09 AM


Investor wrote:

Tuesday, February 26, 2008
Fortunes of War: Death and Chaos No Problem for Profit-Seekers in Iraq

Written by Chris Floyd
Monday, 25 February 2008
We have long been told that the "security situation" in Iraq is the reason why the loudly promised "reconstruction" of the shattered nation by altruistic Western firms has been thwarted. Foreign corporations, particularly the oil companies, are eager to come to the aid of the suffering Iraqi people with expertise, technology and massive investment -- just as soon as those quarrelsome Arabs settle down and stop killing each other.

So the story goes. But as usual, the truth is far from that. As the British government's top advisor revealed this week in a remarkably candid interview with the Observer, Western business leaders don't care how many Iraqis die -- or who kills them -- just as long as their own profits can be guaranteed. It is the oil law -- not civil war, sectarian strife, or the cynical U.S. "surge" policy of arming all sides to guarantee continuing conflict -- that is holding up Western investment.

That's the word from Michael Wareing, chief executive of the multinational consultancy firm KPMG. Prime Minister Gordon Brown has put Wareing in charge of the Basra Development Commission, the Big Business quango tasked with developing southern Iraq -- where British forces once held sway, but now hide away in a remote enclave while Shiite militias and criminal gangs battle for control of the lucrative region.

Wareing told the paper that security in the area "was no longer an issue for investors." After all, he said, you will often find a spot of bother amongst the dusky peoples who have unaccountably found themselves living on top of America and Britain's oil:


"If you look at many other economies in the world, particularly the oil-rich economies, many of these places are quite challenging places in which to do business," he said. "Frankly, if you can successfully operate in the Niger Delta, that is a very different benchmark from imagining that Basra needs to be like London or Paris."


Indeed. You don't have to bring the savages up to the level of white folks in order to get in there and grab their oil. (And certainly not to the level of London or Paris! The very idea!) Again, Wareing is quite frank on this point:


Iraq's parliament has yet to pass a hydrocarbon law setting out the terms oil companies will operate on and how profits will be split. "My sense is that many of the oil companies are very eager to come in now, and actually what they're waiting for is the hydrocarbon law to be passed and various projects to be signed off. That is what is causing them to pause, rather than the security position," he said.


And what is the "security position" in this very juicy slice of the Iraqi pie? (As the Observer notes, the Basra region "accounts for 90 percent of government revenue and 70 percent of Iraq's proven oil reserves.") Commondreams.org gives us the lowdown on a situation that is perfectly acceptable to KPMG, the oil companies, Her Majesty's Government -- and Her Majesty's Government's true masters in Washington:


In Basra, Iraq’s second largest city, 2008 was ushered in with an announcement of the 2007 death toll of women targeted by Islamist militias. City officials reported on December 31 that 133 women were killed and mutilated last year, their bodies dumped in trash bins with notes warning others against “violating Islamic teachings…” But ambulance drivers who are hired to troll the city streets in the early mornings to collect the bodies confirm what most residents believe: the actual numbers are much higher.

The killers’ leaflets are not very original. They usually accuse the women of being prostitutes or adulterers. But those murdered are more likely to be doctors, professors, or journalists...Their crime is not “promiscuity,” but rather opposition to the transformation of Iraq into an Islamist state. That bloody transition has been the main political trend under US occupation.

It’s no secret who is killing the women of Basra. Shiite political forces empowered by the US invasion have been terrorizing women there since 2003.


The Observer story on Wareing has more:


Basra fell largely under the control of Shia militias after the ousting of Saddam Hussein and has witnessed a violent turf war, as well as high rates of murder and kidnapping. Corruption is rife, residents are afraid to use banks in case they are robbed and smuggling of oil and other goods helps fund militias and criminal gangs. Unemployment has been put at between 30 per cent and 60 per cent, and the agricultural sector is in serious decline as cheap imports grow.


An insight into the situation in Basra is also provided in a second candid interview that appeared in the same issue of the Observer, this time with one of Britain's top military men in the region:


In an unusually frank analysis, Colonel Richard Iron, military mentor to the Iraqi commander General Mohan al-Furayji, said "There's an uneasy peace between the Iraqi Security Forces [ISF] on the one hand and the militias on the other. There is a sense in the ISF that confrontation is inevitable. They are training and preparing for the battle ahead. General Mohan says that the US won the battle for Baghdad, the US is going win the battle for Mosul, but Iraqis will have to win the battle for Basra."

Basra has been the scene of a violent power struggle between rival Shia factions, prominently Jaish al-Mahdi (JAM) led by the radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who last week announced an extension to its six-month ceasefire. It has seen armed groups move into hospitals and university campuses to impose their religious and political ideology, bullying or even beheading women for going out to work or dressing inappropriately.

Asked who runs the city now, Iron, who has been in Basra since December, said: "There's no one in charge. The unwritten rules of the game are there are areas where the army can and can't go and areas where JAM can and can't take weapons."


"There's no one in charge." Think of that: five years after the invasion of Iraq, a trillion dollars gone, a million people killed, and still, "there's no one in charge." The extremist Shiite militias -- including the militia known as the American-armed, American-funded, American-backed Iraqi government – are sharpening their knives for the eventual showdown within the sect; women are being killed and mutilated; professionals, doctors and teachers are being snatched off the streets, murdered or driven out; the city and region are being carved up into warring fiefdoms; murder and thievery are rampant; the chance for an ordinary, decent human life is receding for a population plunged into violent anarchy and immense suffering ...but none of this is "an issue for investors." They could not care less. If the Green Zone gang back in Baghdad can just get this damn oil law signed already, then Big Oil and its attendant industries will move in and start restoring and expanding the infrastructure of the Iraqi economy.

Naturally, since Nigeria is the openly stated model for what's to come, the actual people of Iraq will get the barest trickle of this bumper harvest of their national wealth. As in Nigeria, most of it will be shipped back to the West and spread around a thin layer of corrupt and corrupting local elites, while the majority lives in poverty and the society is riven with ethnic, religious and political conflict spurred by the twin goads of greed and vast injustice.

Wareing's revelations tie in to what we've been saying here (and elsewhere) for years: the Bush Faction (and the various elites it represents and embodies) has already "won" the war – no matter what happens. As I wrote here last fall, combining threads from a series of articles going back to August 2003:


In a world of dwindling petroleum resources, those who control large reserves of cheaply-produced oil will reap unimaginable profits – and command the heights of the global economy. It's not just about profit, of course; control of such resources would offer tremendous strategic advantages to anyone who was interested in "full spectrum domination" of world affairs, which the Bush-Cheney faction and their outriders among the neocons and the "national greatness" fanatics have openly sought for years. With its twin engines of corporate greed and military empire, the war in Iraq is a marriage made in Valhalla.

And this unholy union is what Bush is really talking about when he talks about "victory." This is the reason for so much of the drift and dithering and chaos and incompetence of the occupation: Bush and his cohorts don't really care what happens on the ground in Iraq – they care about what comes out of the ground. The end – profit and dominion – justifies any means. What happens to the human beings caught up in the war is of no ultimate importance; the game is worth any number of broken candles.

And in plain point of fact, the Bush-Cheney faction – and the elite interests they represent – has already won the war in Iraq...They've won even if Iraq collapses into perpetual anarchy, or becomes an extremist religious state; they've won even if the whole region goes up in flames, and terrorism flares to unprecedented heights – because this will just mean more war-profiteering, more fear-profiteering. And yes, they've won even if they lose their majority [in November 2006] or the presidency in 2008, because war and fear will still fill their coffers, buying them continuing influence and power as they bide their time through another interregnum of a Democratic "centrist" – who will, at best, only nibble at the edges of the militarist state – until they are back in the saddle again. The only way they can lose the Iraq War is if they are actually arrested and imprisoned for their war crimes. And you know and I know that's not going to happen.

So Bush's confident strut, his incessant upbeat pronouncements about the war, his complacent smirks, his callous indifference to the unspeakable horror he has unleashed in Iraq – these are not the hallmarks of self-delusion, or willful ignorance, or a disassociation from reality. He and his accomplices know full well what the reality is – and they like it.

-- March 3, 2008 11:10 AM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

Well I'm thinking, that it is in the better interest of Turkey Iraq and the US if the Turks are going in, doing what they are doing, (I think they claimed over 250 PKK's or there about) , and then get out, there is no indication if they were to get back in, and do another hit.

Who would this favor, well what is PKK, they are a terrorist band, in their eyes they are probably another version of "freedom fighters" with their own reasons, but either way, they are 1. Not a regular force. 2. Not under Kurdish official regime. ( there might very well be sympathy , silent agreements and mutual understandings on many issues , but still PKK is NOT under the official Kurdish Government.)....in fact not under ANY government. 3. They need funding, for weapons and materiel. 4. Iran need to move convoys of Katusha rockers to Lebanon via Syria.5. Iran needs to take the shortest route between Iran and Syria.5. Look at your map, where do they do that, and who do they buy out?.

Iran is for sure not sending convoys via Baghdad, Kuwait, Jordan or anywhere else.

So, northern Iraq is unstable AS LONG AS THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY CONTROLING LAND, ROADS, BRIDGES, RIVERS, MOUNTAINPASSES, AND NOT BEING UNDER GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL.

Kurds in general, not PPK members, for sure are ducking, and may have a silent disapproval of the operations taking place, but can't do much about it. Kurdistan is prospering more than any other region in Iraq, and the Kurds will have a very hard time, starting smashing windows, and overturn cars in the streets about this.

They have got so much lately, and even in their eyes, the PKK movement that in the past must have really been the only way out for them, have now dropped into fifth or sixth priority between Coca Cola, Internet, Cellphones, good wages, decent living and funny TV shows.

Who wants to go and muddy down the shoes in the mountains, they're Italian and handmade.

The era of PKK is over, and the PKK only exist now as an annoyance to Turkey, but there is more.

Turkeys part in this...follow the money line,...in the report posted by "investor" the scenario is outlined.

A new energy hub is created, where Turkey is a major part of the plan. There can not be a bunch of ragtag guys running around in the mountains, blowing up pipelines between Iraq's northern oil fields and Turkey.

Israel is part of that energy hub. Israel will not be part of an energy hub that have paid off PKK terrorists either getting bribes, and letting the oil flow or blow it up, or letting Iranian Katusha rockets reach Lebanon.

It all depends on reliable oil getting to Turkey.

Also, as the pan called out for,... is a little bit more global than that.

With Turkey getting in on the energy heavy weight side, this will start to make a leverage on the Russian oil.

Russia are kind of rouge, and are not too diplomatic, and doesn't mind stepping on a toe here and there. The development of eastern Europe have taken good steps, but have been slowed down by Russian arm wrestling with Russian oil.

There are conflicts, between Russia and the smaller former Soviet republics, and even instances where the Russians have just turned the oil tap off.

The key to a counter leverage is Turkey. Oil to Europe will make Turkey Europe's supplier, and with Turkeys interest in entering the European Union, this will fit like the hand in the glove.

So it looks like it is a matter of mopping up the last rest of the rouge bands running around in the hills, and it seems that Turkey got the honor this time. It is the natural enemy after all, and it wouldn't seem really in the eyes of the Kurdish public to be too tasteful if the US went after them with full force.

No Sara, I don't think this is something that will escalate into something ugly, on the contrary, the involved parties, are cheering on. The only parties that would lose is Iran and Syria. Their inter connecting "highway" would be no more.

So this is business as usual.

Your analysis of the free floating currency is very spot on.

No need to develop more on that, you nailed that one.

Then to get in a bit on the philosophical side of things, your last posting, got me thinking, the forces that are holding Iraq down, and for what reason.

Well, you may have perception of big old spirits having a powwow over there, but me, for my part I would like to have something more tangible to designate the causes to.

I would perhaps put it this way.

Confusion in itself is not a feeling, or intention, but it is a condition of something.

Confusion in itself is not evil, but when evil is present, confusion is present.

When you KNOW all the particles, their purposes, their natural places and their order of importance, you will not have confusion. You will even be able to observe confusion and have no problem with confusion because you can assign all the particles their correct order of importance, know their correct places, and know their ranks and order.

If you know, it will get in order. and what is not in order will get there (eventually, when the snow melts, when I get my next paycheck, or when the paint dries, or whenever, but you know the order, so that particles have no effect on you)

Thus, when you are told lies, misinformation or wrong order of importance, you will get confusion.

The confusion I can observe in Iraq is on many levels.

It's the old way of living, where old truths (that are false) will slowly be replaced by working applicable truths.

It is the lies and confusion that follows in big entities like the UN, and all it's organization's, we have IMF, we have the WB and we have a very uneducated Iraqi work force in the economical field, that will be very hard pressed to get everything straight right at this moment in Iraq.

We have the lies and confusion on the educational field, old false lies that are following generation after generation and false, or wrong economical moves are done over and over again, just as they were taught by the good ol professor.

We have a field of politics, where the power brokers are playing over and under the table, with their own agenda as the first priority, books have been written about this earths human race doing politics, so not much have to be added to the lies and deceits that have, and are floating around there.

In all parts of life there is always this insane solution that always seem to hang in, and prevail, even after the crowd on the street are screaming and pointing to the obviously, it will be "decided" that it will be there, stay there and stay in effect, in the interest of the public, or something like that.

So to go back to Iraq, and why the Iraqi Dinar is kept in a ridiculously low range year after year, and the correct steps have never been taken, I see the thing as a collective stupidness, where the intention of a self is governing the action of many.

It is like when a movie theater is burning.

If everyone is acting with full responsibility for each other, and acted in unison, not pushing and walk out in unison, like a fast marching marching band, the whole movie theater would have been vacated in no time.

But as the interest of the individual is higher than the interest of the whole group of individual, everyone is acting in the exact way that will kill everybody.

Including themselves.

-- March 3, 2008 11:11 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger;

I agree with you that self-interest is the key to what is happening with the Dinar right now. When you said, "So to go back to Iraq, and why the Iraqi Dinar is kept in a ridiculously low range year after year, and the correct steps have never been taken, I see the thing as a collective stupidness, where the intention of a self is governing the action of many."

I believe this evaluation of yours is spot-on. (I just think that the collective stupidity through self-interest is being manipulated from a higher dimension for unkind purposes against the Iraqi people. But how it manifests in this earthly realm is as you said, as collective stupidity and self-interest.) Another factor I mused upon after my last post is the fear of death which the terrorists give to the Iraqi government.. including kidnappings and so on.. such extortion is likely also a great factor in why they have not RVed. But if one man (Maliki) is too scared to do what is right, there are other Iraqis with the internal fortitude to do it and he should step down and let someone else take the lead and do the revalue who has the bravery to do so instead of his timidity. Because some Iraqis do see that it is the only way the Iraqi people will be set free and a necessary leg to victory and freedom. Without it, the Iraqi people remain impoverished and held under false control and manipulation. So there are those who will do the right thing and RV if given the power to do so. May God give us that person (and/or persons) in power who will RV for the good of the Iraqi people.. and the good fortune of the currency of Iraq (both of which we Dinar investors would cheer).

Even Investor's post of a rant from the lunys on the left fringe has some truth to it (though not much). Such as when they said, "Wareing told the paper that security in the area "was no longer an issue for investors." Good news which shows the improvement in Iraqi security to date and how the troops have been doing a wonderful, blessed job in protecting the Iraqi people and gaining peace for them. In spite of his denials, it WAS an issue before, and that situation has changed. Kudos to the troops and forces on the ground for a job well done!

He also notes the death of innocent Iraqi women, saying, "Their crime is not “promiscuity,” but rather opposition to the transformation of Iraq into an Islamist state." So the ENEMY here is those seeking to transform Iraq into an Islamist state, NOT the Bush Administration and oil.. BUT, he will find a way, stepping back from that very plain situation one step at a time and adding on layer after layer of accusations, to shift the blame from the real cause of the deaths stated here of "opposition to the transformation of Iraq into an Islamist state" - onto the government of the US which he so dispises and anyone seeking to help the Iraqis develop their oil sector.

The article goes on to deprecate all attempts to give Iraq prosperity and make money in the process. Making money? After all, businesses are in the business of making money, ask your employer. And businesses want to make money in Iraq. As for the characterization of them and President Bush as totally demonic for wishing to make business deals which do make a profit - which is the basis of a free economy (how evil, right?) when the article concludes, "So Bush's confident strut, his incessant upbeat pronouncements about the war, his complacent smirks, his callous indifference to the unspeakable horror he has unleashed in Iraq – these are not the hallmarks of self-delusion, or willful ignorance, or a disassociation from reality. He and his accomplices know full well what the reality is – and they like it."

THAT turns my stomach. Because it is without respect or dignity to a great man whose heart is not callously indifferent, nor is his having confidence in what he is doing for the good of the Iraqi people an evil. When the Iraqis appealed to his humanity and begged him to rid them of Saddam and his rape rooms, his heart was moved. I swear God, who knows the thoughts and intents of the hearts will judge these detractors who speak such evil things very harshly for their slander of the man. They are truly of those who dispise government and speak evil of dignitaries:

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust to the Day of Judgment to be punished:
2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. They are presumptuous, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries.

Who are these people who speak such evils of a duly elected official and those who stood and voted to go into Iraq? When they talk of unleashing "unspeakable horror" in Iraq.. all war is hell, always is. But sometimes it is necessary. Has the surge ended up bringing nothing but "unspeakable horror" to the Iraqi people? Are the Iraqis better off under the Parliament now or Saddam? The Iraqis themselves state they believe they are better off now.

2007 - Four years into the war, the biggest poll since coalition troops entered Iraq on March 20, 2003 showed that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis preferred the current leadership to Saddam Hussein’s regime, regardless of the security situation and a lack of public services.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Liberation_From_Ba.27athist_Tyranny

That poll saying 2/3rds say it was a good move was pre-surge, and things have only gotten better since then. Iraqis are returning in droves, and violence is down. From that same url/section: "Since the surge, this has ceased as 60-80% of the violence has been stopped. On Sat Feb 16, 2008 reuters reported, "Attacks by insurgents and rival sectarian militias have fallen up to 80 percent in Baghdad. The U.S. military says attacks have fallen across Iraq by 60 percent since June on the back of security clampdowns and the deployment of 30,000 extra American troops."

So war isn't always "unspeakable horror" and evil. It does accomplish some very worthwhile things for people (like freedom from a dictator called the Butcher of Baghdad). Sometimes, war is necessary to attain good goals. In this ongoing war against Islamic extremist terrorists, he notes, "Basra fell largely under the control of Shia militias after the ousting of Saddam Hussein and has witnessed a violent turf war, as well as high rates of murder and kidnapping. Corruption is rife, residents are afraid to use banks in case they are robbed and smuggling of oil and other goods helps fund militias and criminal gangs. Unemployment has been put at between 30 per cent and 60 per cent, and the agricultural sector is in serious decline as cheap imports grow."

What could help this.. more military action to remove the militias, certainly - we have seen how the surge has brought more peace to the people in Iraq already, and removed violence and fear. But the unemployment is a HUGE factor there. Does this article say get the money going and people back to work by stimulating the economy of Iraq which means developing their oil? No. It is all a grab to steal their oil from the greedy monsters. What will help is seen as wickedness. The article has nothing but bad and evil to say on the question of how the government has and is conducting the war. Instead of the fault lying with the terrorists, somehow these detractors always put it back on the US government and oil, particularly anyone daring to try and make money in Iraq for themselves and the Iraqis (true business deals are win-win, both must profit for people to enter into business deals, that is real life and reality).

This anti-US-government article is correct in that going to war wasn't self-delusion, willful ignorance or dissasociation from reality, that is true. But neither was it from malicious intent to steal Iraq's resources which motivated President Bush AND both houses of Congress to endorse the war in Iraq. As I posted before, President Bush would not have approved the war measure without the stimulus of 911. And, it HAS helped the Iraqi people and they will be better off for it in the long run. AND, the making of profit by the oil industry is a normal business practice done throughout the world and not a horribly wicked thing.. so long as the Iraqi people are properly compensated for it. My concern is that the Iraqi government will not RV and they will only give the Iraqi people their "fiat" or monopoly money, keeping the real profit to themselves. They can take in real money for their product (oil) then give the people only tiny amounts based on their falsely set Dinar exchange rate. This will give the Iraqis more than they have now, but never get them to a world-class economy or economic standard of living. The corrupt (or scared) government can then keep the gravy train to themselves.. because they are making very sure that Iraq will prosper through this. By that, I fear they mean themselves and not really the people.

It would take a man of great bravery and faith to RV the Dinar while running the Iraqi government. We have not seen one yet. I believe Maliki will never RV the Dinar. He hasn't the faith, vision or ability to hope for good for the Iraqi people. What the motives he has are.. fear for his life or his loved ones, greed or corruption, misplaced religious zeal, an agent for Iran.. I cannot tell. But he isn't the man for this task. I pray the Iraqis replace him with someone who will do what is necessary to get prosperity for the masses by joining the world economy and not living in their monopoly money kingdom. Maliki, and any others who will not RV, have a lot of blood on their hands for their inaction. I say that because the lack of an RV is a direct cause of more instability and fosters terrorism as well as a lack of prosperity for everyday Iraqis. It steals jobs, prosperity and hope from the Iraqi people, and some of them have turned to terrorism as a result. Sins of OMISSION are as evil as sins of commission. And this omission (to RV) is a very great sin against the good of the Iraqi people.

Instead of it being wicked interests spurring on and endorsing keeping the prosperity from the Iraqi people as stated in the article when it slanderously says, "Naturally, since Nigeria is the openly stated model for what's to come, the actual people of Iraq will get the barest trickle of this bumper harvest of their national wealth. As in Nigeria, most of it will be shipped back to the West and spread around a thin layer of corrupt and corrupting local elites, while the majority lives in poverty and the society is riven with ethnic, religious and political conflict spurred by the twin goads of greed and vast injustice. And this unholy union is what Bush is really talking about when he talks about "victory.""

Instead of this, I think it is the West taking their rightful profit from a normal business venture and helping Iraq to have prosperity, which is not evil. The problem is not the rightful profit from a successful business venture, but the corrupt Iraqi officials keeping the Iraqi part of the profits out of the hands of the Iraqi people by not doing the RV. That way they keep the money to themselves and live on in monopoly land.. where they stay rich and the ordinary Iraqis have little. Look at Iraq today.. see how it is now? That is the way they wish to keep it, for whatever motives. It isn't the US government or big oil's fault.. it is the Iraqi government's fault for not doing the RV and joining the real world so their people can have normal lives and prosperity. My view and belief is that the Iraqi people can have as much prosperity as Kuwait or Saudi Arabia has.. if they have a good enough government... one which will live in the real world and let the prosperity flow to its people in real terms not the current fiat monopoly money.

Sara.

-- March 3, 2008 11:12 AM


Sara wrote:

Investor - My taking umbrage at the article in your last post was not meant in any way as a deprecation of you or your posts, which I have appreciated very much. I just differ in my opinion from the views expressed within that particular post.. and I discussed my views of it since it fit with the dinar discussion Roger and I were having about the RV. Again, no offense was intended, and I hope to hear your viewpoint on advancing the good fortune of Iraq for the people of Iraq and the Dinar.

Sara.

-- March 3, 2008 11:13 AM


Sara wrote:

Surge working..

U.S. casualties drop in Iraq in February
Sat Mar 1, 2008
By The Associated Press

BAGHDAD - An Associated Press count finds 29 U.S. troops died while serving in Iraq in February, the third-lowest monthly casualty toll for the U.S. military since the American-led invasion in 2003.

Troop fatalities declined from 40 in January, and also dropped steeply from February 2007, when at least 81 troops died in Iraq.

Three factors are widely credited with reducing violence in Iraq over the past six months: an increase in U.S. troop levels; a ceasefire by radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia; and the decision by tens of thousands of Sunni fighters to accept U.S. funding and turn against al-Qaida in Iraq.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080301/world/iraq_casualties

-- March 3, 2008 11:14 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Did you know that 47 countries have re-established
their embassies in Iraq?

Did you know that the Iraqi government
currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?

Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,
364 schools are under rehabilitation,
263 new schools are now under construction
and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?

Did you know that Iraq 's higher educational
structure consists of 20 Universities,
46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers,
all currently operating?

Did you know that 25 Iraq students depar! ted
for the United States in January 2005
! for the re-established Fulbright program?

Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
They have 5 -100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels
and a naval infantry regiment.

Did you know that Iraq 's Air Force consists of three operational squadrons,
which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft
(under Iraqi operational control)
which operate day and night, and will soon add
16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?

Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist
unit and a Commando Battalion?

Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000
fully trained and equipped police officers?

Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
that produce over 3500 new officers every 8 weeks?

Did you know there are more t han 1100
building projects going on in Iraq ?
They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics,
15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations,
22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities
and 69 electrical facilities.

Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5
have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?

Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were
enrolled in primary school by mid October?

Did you know that there are 1,192,000
cell phone subscribers in Iraq
and phone use has gone up 158%?

Did you know that Iraq has an independent
media that consists of 75 radio stations,
180 newspapers and 10 television stations?

Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange
opened in June of 2004?

Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi
presidential election had a televised debate recently?

OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!

WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?


BECAUSE...


OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!

Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
and people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades.

Tragically, the la! ck of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two purposes:

It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United States
thus minimizing consequent support,
and it is intended to discourage American citizens .
---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web site..

http://www.defense.gov/
http://www.pentagon.mil/
http://www.defenselink.mil/
http://www.defendamerica.mil/iraq.html
http://www.jcs.mil

-- March 3, 2008 11:14 AM


Roger wrote:

Fiat money, (money that are valued because of a decision(controlled) or opinion(bought and sold), as opposed to backed money), will always have a tendency to be manipulated in one way or the other, as Gold or Silver or cows in the corral, is not the basis of it's value.

Another aspect of why I think the Iraqi Dinar is held where it is held is very much in the culture of the Arabian and Persian countries, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait , Dubai and other oil producing states, have such a strong economy, and could have had their currency free floating, but as their neighbours to the east doesn't, the neighbour to the north doesn't, and the neighbour to the west doesn't, well then, that is what we are suppose to do, it is an accepted thing to do.

So the truth about money in those part of the world, would be, an expectancy to control it artificially.

Leave a room empty, and leave it uncontrolled, and in no time it will be a storage space. Some one will take over that control, and make a decision in how to use it.

Walk to a crowded area and look confused, and you will almost as an automatic function, pull in people that are willing to take control, -"do you need help sir?"

The hard part is when someone that have taken control over something , will have to give up that control, he will fight for keeping the control.

The teenager that filled all his stuff in the empty room with make all kind of problems and try to convince that the stuff has to stay there, and the person that helped you when you were confused, giving you directions, almost can't stop, and are explaining it three times for you, and keep explaining how to get there, long after you have got it.

Control over something is not easily taken, when someone or something is already controlling it.

In the Middle East, monetary control is expected, and I have very little faith in that it will be less controlled.

It may, but the resistance of letting it lose on the Forex, and let the market decide on it's value will probably be very hard fought. This will be about the same as yanking an electronic video game control unit out of the hands from an 9 year old.

It wont go easy.

Whatever Iraq will have to decide upon, they have to start moving again, as long as the Dollar is showing weakness, and the Dinar is pegged to the Dollar, the Dinar will go down with the Dollar, and have to be re-adjusted. The value of the neighbouring states money are rising, and that puts another pressure on the Dinar to rise.

The value of the Iraqi reserve is rising and that put another pressure on the value of Iraq,

The amount of the Iraqi debt is sinking, and that puts another pressure on the Iraq Dinar to go up.

The amount of violence is shrinking, and stability is rising, thus business, that put another pressure on the Iraqi Dinar to rise.

The amount of investment, ( not only private, but also another record big state budget, to be sink'ed into the society) is rising, and that also put a pressure on the Iraqi Dinar to be raised.

The amount of money in circulation in the business system (most money in existence is not physical money), is increasing, putting a pressure on the Iraqi Dinar to rise.

Some may object to the last statement, but please notice that I said the amount in the business system, not the amount printed, quite a difference, you print up a bunch of money but can't make it work in the system, you will of course have inflation.

I need to expand a little bit on the last issue here.

A very small system, an island with three persons, with their own money, have in all essence no impact on any trading partner outside of their own system. Their own system will not permit for much value, and their own currency almost by necessity have to be a controlled currency in order for it to have any exchange value at all, while a big system, Europe, the US, Japan or something similar, will just by it's presence have value.

Thus, in order for a big system to work, it needs a big amount of currency to float around in it's veins, thus the bigger the system, the more need for more currency in order to make it continue to work.

If you print exactly what you need in order for the veins in the beast to operate optimally, and the beast is growing, you will of course have to print more money, and even by doing so, the money will be more valued, as the value of the hardware in that system, harbors, land, bridges, machinery, work force, profitability, and so on, will have an inherited higher value, than three houses on an island where the three inhabitants have their own money.

That is one of the reasons why richer and higher producing countries, or economical systems have higher valued money compared with (on the other extreme) 3'rd world countries.

A currency can go up in value over other currencies, and still have inflation.

In a free trading economic system there is an inherent annual inflation of a few %.

Most money in this world doesn't exist.

Depending on the laws in each country, that will permit banks to hold liquidity in comparison with their lending volume, you will in general find that about 10% of existing money exists only in paper, as Dollar bills, Stirling or Euros (or whatever).(Don't panic now, but banks don't have much money, most of their assets are in loans, same with the feds, where the values are in securities, and the industry, where they have obtained or are giving credits)

Ok lets leave that subject now, so Iraq have all the ingredients, plus one of the obvious one, oil, in itself worthless, until pumped and sold, but it acts as a guarantee for future debit and credit.

Question is, if they will do the dreaded, zero lop or an RV, or a slow recovery.

Either way, this year will probably show the intentions of the Iraqis in what way they want to go. The Iraqi industry and oil are in negotiating phase, and contracts are signed to the point that they have an ink shortage right now.

The effects on the industry when a period like that is experienced, is less of a boom, but more of an optimistic look on the future, and a willingness to invest, develop and in general have a more entrepreneurial attitude.

The real economic effects, will most probably be seen this year, as the first big investment projects are moving in. People are getting jobs, and the trickle down effect will go far, but it will only happen when the Iraqi man can come home with a paycheck.

The Dinar can not stay where it is, in a boom economy.

Probably by the middle or in the late part of this year we will see the first substantial moves in the Iraq economy, the first invested wheels will start to pay out. THAT will by definition be the start of the economic boom....we have had enough of the poitical stuff....

The value of the Iraqi industry is right now pretty low, but what they have is a hope for the future, they can see solutions, they can wheel and deal, like they have never been able to do before.

So, the Dinar will not stay, it can not stay. It will be an impossibility.

The hard part is to yank the controlling fingers from the Dinar, and let it prove itself.

There is always someone along the control line that knows best.

-- March 3, 2008 11:16 AM


anon wrote:

Roger , thanks for your always inviting info !!!!!

-- March 3, 2008 11:16 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Analysis: Iraq oil debate review


Published: Feb. 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Print story Email to a friend Font size:By BEN LANDO
UPI Energy Editor
WASHINGTON, Feb. 28 (UPI) -- Iraq's draft oil law is stalled in Parliament, the national government and Kurdistan Regional Government are moving forward with their own deals -- unconstitutional, the each says of the other -- and Iraq's oil production is stalled at just more than 2 million barrels per day.

Perhaps it's a good time to take a step back and recap the debate over Iraq's oil sector and its possibilities. To do so, United Press International has reviewed three recently published documents providing contrasting and varying insight. It's not exhaustive, but a good addition to an important discussion.

The first is "An Opinion Opposing the Existing Draft Iraqi Oil & Gas Law," by Fouad al-Amir, a 70-year-old Iraqi resident with "40 years in the Iraqi Ministry of Oil," according to an ex-Iraqi oil official.

"The importance of Iraq comes from its high oil reserves, and the very good possibility of increasing it," al-Amir wrote. He called it suspect that U.S. officials and Big Oil companies have had their eye on Iraq's oil since before the war, citing Vice President Cheney's energy task force documents, State Department study groups and an oil company-funded think tank calling for a certain type of contract.

Iraq's oil sector has been nationalized since the 1970s, though Saddam Hussein gradually displaced many technocrats with political allies, and oil production decreased.

A proposed oil law that receives heavy backing from Washington is being touted as a way to direct investment to the oil sector, through at least partial denationalization. The fear by opponents, such as al-Amir, is that through production-sharing contracts private companies will be allowed too much access and even control over Iraq's oil. PSCs, which the KRG has signed in frustration with Baghdad, give companies a guaranteed minimum cut of the oil, after recouping their costs, deals looked upon as favorable by Wall Street.

"The existing laws in Iraq allow all kind of oil development, except foreign sharing in Iraqi oil," al-Amir wrote. "There would be a need for (an) oil law later when safe and stable, political and social, matured conditions are prevailing. … It should be reorganized to emphasize central planning and decentralized application of the plans."

The Iraq National Accord, a political party led by former Iraq Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, who is angling to replace current Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's governing coalition, has issued a critique of the current process of the oil and gas law, as well as of the national Oil Ministry.

The INA calls for an immediate passage of the Revenue Sharing Law to "create trust on all sides." It's set to be included in a package of laws along with the oil law, the Ministry of Oil law and the Iraqi National Oil Co. law.

INA calls for the INOC to be re-established and given the task of operating currently producing fields "and double their current production," while international and Iraqi private oil companies should bring into production the discovered but not developed fields.

"The government's role should be regulation and oversight, while having capable companies Iraqi and international, investing and working in all areas of Iraq," the paper said.

And it repeated the claims of the KRG in its dispute with the national government. It said Baghdad made "unauthorized changes" to the draft oil law agreed to in February 2007. That law is now stuck in Iraq's Parliament. The KRG decided to move forward on its own, passing a regional oil law and signing dozens of contracts with international oil companies.

The INA said any contracts will increase oil production, thus revenues, and should be considered "positive." It said the Supreme Court of Iraq should determine which side is correct in the dispute, which is based on either sides interpretation of the 2005 Constitution, and criticized national Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani for, among other things, calling the KRG deals "illegal," blacklisting companies that signed with the KRG and cutting those firms from Iraq oil purchases.

While the timeline for finding agreement on the oil law is unknown, a new report from the Center for Global Energy Studies says there is much than can, and should, be done to enhance Iraq's hydrocarbons sector in the meantime.

"The fact that the nation is composed of different sects and races has contributed less to the problem than politics, the security vacuum post April 2003, and the very slow process of building up and equipping the national army and security forces. The conditions in Kurdistan have been safe enough for business. In the southern governorates of Basra and Missan, security conditions have been relatively satisfactory for field activity to continue," according to the Executive Summary of the report -- which is offered by the London-based consultancy for more than $26,000.

"Field activity in the short term can, however, go ahead in Anbar, Basra, Missan, South Thi Qar (Nasiriyah), parts of Wasit, in addition to Dohuk, Erbil and part of Sulaimaniya" provinces, the report added. Large-scale exploration is the biggest holdout until the government decides who controls the oil strategy.

Other issues include the flaring of 70 percent of gas produced during oil production, instead of utilizing it in power generation.

Plans in the early 1980s to boost production to 6 million bpd were cut short by successive wars, U.N. sanctions and Saddam's mismanagement of the sector. Security issues keep out contractors and political stalling keeps Iraqis from doing any major projects. Production increases will come after wells, pipelines and other infrastructure are fixed, upgraded and protected, the report said.

And although Iraq's export facilities have a 3.5 million bpd capacity, according to the report, increasing production to the 6 million bpd target -- or higher -- "would definitely require expansion of the production centers, trunk lines, main lines and export facilities."

The northern pipeline from Kirkuk to a Turkish port has only recently been regularly protected from insurgent attacks, and is now flowing at about 350,000 bpd -- less than a quarter of its capacity. Meanwhile exports from the southern ports are heading toward the 1.9 million bpd mark. Other pipelines have been bombed and remain out of operation.

The report predicts average daily production will reach 2.692 million bpd by 2010, with exports at 2.217 million bpd. Such oil sales would continue to bring in the tens of billions of dollars -- especially at today's oil prices -- which fund nearly the entire Iraqi federal budget.

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-- March 3, 2008 11:17 AM


Sara wrote:

ANALYSIS: Iraq welcomes Ahmadinejad, Sunni Arabs object
Mar 2, 2008

Cairo/Baghdad - The Iraqi government lavished hospitality and praise on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Sunday during the first visit by an Iranian head of state to a country that was for decades considered a bitter foe.

Yet, the visit was met with a mix of reservation and outright protest from Iraq's Sunni Arabs, who watch nervously Iran's growing political and economic clout in their country.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani played the good host by avoiding any public mention of what could perturb the visit.

The border treaty was not discussed Sunday, Talabani said. His Sunni Arab Vice-President, Tariq al-Hashimi, however, did not hide his nationalist position towards Iran.

'We hope we can put an end to troubled relations between both countries. As for normalizing ties, this should be on the basis of respect of sovereignty and non-interference,' al-Hashimi said in a statement published on the website of his Iraqi Islamic Party.

Both countries should start simultaneous negotiations over a number of unsettled, complex issues, al-Hashimi said.

Anti-Tehran sentiment ran high in Sunni-dominated Fallujah in western Iraq where protestors burnt Iran's flag and announced a boycott of its goods, the Voices of Iraq news agency (VOI) reported Sunday.

'The protest is a message to Iran from the Iraqi people, expressing our indignation towards Iran's conduct. It is backing and training militias that killed hundreds of Iraqis,' Sabah al-Ilwany, a senior member of the Fallujah Assembly Party, told VOI.

A rally bringing together Sunni Arab tribal and political leaders in the multi-ethnic city of Kirkuk voiced strong opposition to the visit.

'We have seen today a visit by [a president] of a state with hands tarnished by the blood of innocent people in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine,' Ahmed al-Ubaydi, the leader of the Iraqi Kirkuk Front, told the congregation.

Al-Ubaydi was referring to Iran's growing influence in the region, which causes unease in many Sunni-dominated Arab countries.

Tribes in Shiite-dominated southern Iraq joined those criticizing Ahmadinejad's visit.

A member of the association of southern Iraqi clans, Hasan al- Lami, called for the border with Iran to be redrawn and an end to its 'oil theft.'

Iran has denied allegations recently made by Iraqi oil officials that it has seized oil wells on its border with the southern Iraqi provinces of Basra and Missan.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/news/article_1393614.php/ANALYSIS_Iraq_welcomes_Ahmadinejad_Sunni_Arabs_object

-- March 3, 2008 11:17 AM


Sara wrote:

It continues to be unwise for insurgents to kill US/coalition soldiers (or others who oppose them in Iraq).

Major al-Qaeda figure in Iraq killed, says US
Ap, Baghdad
Monday, March 3, 2008

A US military helicopter fired a guided missile to kill a wanted Saudi Arabian al-Qaeda in Iraq leader who was believed responsible for the bombing deaths of five American soldiers, a spokesman said Monday.

US Navy Rear Adm. Gregory Smith said Jar Allah, also known as Abu Yasir al-Saudi, and another Saudi known only as Hamdan, were both killed Wednesday in Mosul. Al-Saudi headed up the al-Qaeda network in southeast Mosul, an insurgent hotbed where US forces wage daily battles against the group.

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=25827

-- March 3, 2008 11:18 AM


ahire wrote:

-- March 3, 2008 11:18 AM


Roger wrote:

ahire,

Thanks, well another date to look forward to.

Whoever got that info sure had a lot of things connected to the date 3/18.

Most is purely coincidental, but hey, who knows.

The bank that have to pay back their creditors with the rate that they were payed is not necessarily bound by a current exchange rate, that is most probably stipulated in the contract.

If party A recieved from party B, a credit, at the sum of X, with a certain value of party A and B's countrys currency at the time...lets say a 1:1 (just for the discussion) , then party A have receive a value that is determined by that exchange rate, and party B have given something with that same value.

Lets say party A's countrys currency goes down the drain, and at the time of repayment, 20 years later, it is worth only 10.000 to : 1, then the party that gave the loan (Party B) will of course not be happy to get something back that is 10.000 times smaller than they originally borrowed to party A.

Usually the stronger currency is used in the whole transaction, you borrow in Klondykian Nuggets, and you pay back in Klondykian Nuggets, but not all the time.

Some times, in credit contracts between two different parties using two different currency systems, this is adjusted to the value that was given and recieved at the time of the transaction, so if a credit is announced to be adjusted on a lets say 20 year old credit, and numbers from that time is used, please don't jump into the conclusion that this is a precursor or a leak about an RV.

But...hey, we'll keep our eyes open for something the 18th of Mars.

We can of course hope, soooooome day they're going to just have to do something about it, so why not that date.

That date is as good as any.

-- March 3, 2008 11:19 AM


Sara wrote:

US Treasury sees 'window of opportunity' for Iraq economic reform
02/29/08

WASHINGTON (Thomson Financial) - Iraq's government has made real progress on economic reform over the last year, and with better security now has a chance to make much more progress improving the standard of living of its people, a senior US Treasury official said today.

"There is a window of opportunity on the economic reform side that has been created by the security improvement," Undersecretary of Treasury for International Affairs David McCormick told reporters in a briefing after returning from two days of meetings with Iraqi economic officials in Baghdad. Now, it is "critical that they seize the opportunity on the economic side," he said.

Over the past year, for example, headline inflation has fallen below 2 pct from more than 65 pct at the end of 2006. The government has also signed a new economic program and stand-by lending agreement with the International Monetary Fund. It sets out economic benchmarks but does not provide immediate loans.

The IMF said "despite difficult conditions, Iraq has made progress toward stabilizing the economy," but that the economic outlook "hinges on improved security." The 2008 program includes maintaining lower inflation and expanding infrastructure projects in electricity, water, sanitation, education and health care.

McCormick emphasized that US Treasury technical assistance will focus on what officials call "budget execution" as the key reform goal ahead. That is a somewhat euphemistic way of referring to the fact that Iraq has lacked even the basic administrative ability to spend the oil revenue or aid accumulating in the government accounts, and lacked any reasonable accounting system to prevent massive portions of what it did spend from being diverted by corruption.

But McCormick said Iraq has made enough progress that there is a shift from reconstruction to development and toward building governing and banking capacity. Treasury also plans on doubling its assistance staff in Iraq to 24.

McCormick would not accept the wording, but he did seem to be describing a situation in which, despite ongoing stalemate at the political level, there are bureaucrats in the government who still manage to make progress on some basic economic issues.

One particular political stalemate, the inability to pass an oil revenue distribution law, does remain a significant barrier to economic reform and progress in the average Iraqi's standard of living, McCormick said.

http://www.forextv.com/Forex/News/ShowStory.jsp?seq=263356

-- March 3, 2008 11:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Prime Minister Announces a 90% Increase in Governorate Budgets

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki revealed on Sunday a 90% increase in Iraq's 2008 federal budget, as Vice President Adil Abdul-Mahdi disclosed an amended draft for the election law of governorate councils that will soon be submitted to the parliament.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 3, 2008 11:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq-Iran talks positive - PM

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Baghdad, 03 March 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki termed as "positive" Sunday's talks with visiting Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, calling on the once-bitter enemy country to help in reconstruction efforts.

Speaking at a joint press conference with Ahmadinejad in Baghdad, Maliki said, "We had very good talks that were friendly and brotherly...We have mutual understandings and identical views in all fields."

Maliki said Ahmadinejad's visit "would encourage the leaders of neighboring countries to do similar trips and bolster the bilateral ties with Iraq."

Citing Iranian help in stabilizing security conditions in Iraq, the Iraqi premier called on Iran to "help in Iraq's reconstruction."

Though much of the public talk focused on the warming relations between the two countries, Ahmadinejad denounced U.S. accusations that Iran was training and supplying Shiite militia fighters in Iraq with weapons designed to kill U.S. troops.

"Such accusations worsen the problems of the Americans in the region and are not going to solve their problems," Ahmadinejad said in a press conference with Maliki.

The Iranian leader lauded the Iraqi people's culture, describing it as "lasting and self-reviving."

Earlier on Sunday Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said many agreements were reached with the visiting Iranian president.

"We have reached many agreements with Iran in various fields, particularly in economic and political domains," Talabani told reporters in a news conference jointly held with Ahmadinejad.

Replying to a question on the amendment of the Iranian-Iraqi accord of 1975 in Algiers, Talabani said, "We have never touched on this issue in our meeting today."

On March 6, 1975, with the mediation of the former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne, Iraq – represented by the then-vice president Saddam Hussein – and Iran – represented by the Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, signed in Algeria the Algiers Accord to demark the borders between the two countries.

By virtue of the agreement, Iran officially agreed with Iraq to have part of Shatt al-Arab under Iranian sovereignty, according to the Thalweg Line (meaning the median course of the Shatt Al-Arab waterway).

"The negotiations were positive and we are resolved to enhance cooperation in all fields," Talabani remarked.

Ahmadinejad who expressed happiness to visit Saddam-post Iraq, said "I am here to consolidate the friendly ties between the two countries."

The Iranian president arrived in Baghdad on a two-day-visit.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 3, 2008 11:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi oil boom awaits security and laws

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Experts confirmed that Iraq has an oil stockpile of more than 100 billion barrels which is a massive amount, enough, if used, to satisfy the growing international demand for energy and reduce the high oil prices, but they say that the current situation will not allow any development in this sector, especially with the security situation and the lack of regulating laws.

The Government in Baghdad hopes to raise oil production to six million barrels over the past five or six years ahead, which prompted major oil companies, such as "Shell" and "Chevron" to race to invest in Iraq; however, investments are linked to several other factors, mainly the need to stabilize the security situation, making the appropriate legislations and developing the infrastructure. Therefore, Robert Powell, an expert at the Research Unit "Economist", expects the Iraqi oil sector will not be improved unless foreign investments and expertise return, and even then, the development will be slow and gradual. Powell added that the legal issue is of utmost importance because major oil companies will not spend their money in contracts that may be revoked in future causing them heavy losses.

It is noteworthy that the Iraqi parliament has been trying for years to pass an Oil Law in vain, and tumultuous debates have been going on for years around this issue, which leaves the organization of the oil sector a matter of disagreement among the political, ethnic and sectarian parties because each one of the wants to ensure its respective share and determine the revenues distribution.

Iraqi Oil Minister, Hussein Al-Shahrastani, says that Iraq had already begun increasing production capacity, after the Government has adopted security strategies helped to protect the installations, through the adaptation of gunmen who used to attack oil pipelines in units to protect them, an experience similar to the "awakening" councils. But Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, highlighted another aspect of the problem, saying: "We want to obtain financial returns quickly; we must complete the reconstruction efforts and provide jobs for people, because this is very important and will be reflected on the security environment."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 3, 2008 11:51 AM


Sara wrote:

OF NOTE:
SADDAM HAD SLEEPER GROUPS IN THE US...
a truly "SUBSTANTIAL OPERATION"..

Saddam had 'substantial operation' in U.S.
Published: March 3, 2008 at 12:15 PM

WASHINGTON, March 3 (UPI) -- U.S. prosecutors filed more charges against alleged Iraqi spies operating in the United States than against any other nation since the Cold War, officials say.

Patrick Rowan with the Justice Department's national security division said Iraq under Saddam Hussein "had a substantial operation" in the United States, USA Today reported Monday. He said since 2003 they have filed charges against 12 alleged spies, using documents and information seized from Iraq government offices after the invasion.

The "sleeper" groups intended to influence U.S. foreign policy in Saddam's favor and spy on Iraqi opposition groups, Rowan said.

One of the alleged spies, Najib Shemami, stands accused of giving Saddam's regime details on Iraqi expatriates slated to work with the U.S. government on its planned military operations there.

Shemami and several others were charged by federal prosecutors with spying inside the United States since 2003, when the U.S. launched operations in Iraq.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/03/03/saddam_had_substantial_operation_in_us/7539/

What if they had been given marching orders?
Could they have done more than political lobbying/spying?

Sara.

-- March 3, 2008 2:12 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Draft Law oil and gas up to the House of Representatives and will be discussed after the end of parliamentarians from their holiday

2008-03-03 2008-03-03
مسودة قانون النفط والغاز تصل الى مجلس النواب وستناقش بعد أنتهاء البرلمانيين من عطلتهم Draft Law oil and gas up to the House of Representatives and will be discussed after the end of parliamentarians from their holiday

كA member of the Committee of oil, gas and natural wealth in the Iraqi Parliament, Adnan Nation on the arrival of the final and official version of the draft law of oil and gas to the House of Representatives

هبل For the reading and discussion and approval during the first meeting, which will resume after the leave, which expires in 18 months in March next

وأت The Nation told Agence (Lucky) Italian News that "the draft law had been lifted from the Cabinet, in its final version, to Parliament in February of last year, but the discussion did not take place after the government asked to re-draft the law for the settlement of some controversial points contained therein with the Kurdistan Regional Government, in July last bill was submitted to parliament again in the amended version, but the Cabinet asked the House to slow down in the second discussion and deferred the failure to reach a compromise formula on the draft law "and pointed to the Nation "Directive of the Council of Ministers in 31 months in January last official memo to the House of Representatives requesting the adoption of the amended version of the law in reading, discussion and approval, as the final version of the law which has been agreed between the Central Government and the Kurdistan Regional Government", as he put it

ورحياوله He favored the Nation that "there are differences in viewpoints and objections among parliamentarians about the Iraqis draft during the discussion because some deputies felt no need for a new law for the oil, they said Law National Oil Company (SOMO) integrated law and appropriate for all variables, and granted wider powers to the Ministry of Oil in relation to the signing of oil contracts, except contracts participate, along with prospecting and exploration of oil fields, while others saw him as parliamentarians need legislation for a new law defines responsibility and oil rights between the central government and the Kurdistan Regional Government on oil contracts, and international companies which undertake prospecting The exploration and how the distribution of income and the share of mineral wealth which the territorial ", as he put it
ظ The Kurdish government has concluded contracts with 20 2005, which irritated Baghdad's government promised its oil minister Hussein Shahrastani encroachment on the powers of the Government Center, with the Kurds confirms that the signing of contracts to decorate a constitutional violation, and came under a law enacted by Parliament Territory leave him constitution in the light of Article 115 which provides for (Everything that is not provided for in the exclusive competencies of the federal authorities is the power to the regions and governorates irregular in the territory, and other powers shared between the federal government and regions have priority for the Law of the regions and governorates irregular in the territory in the event of disagreement between them.

(http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...%3Fsid%3D20423)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 3, 2008 3:14 PM


ahire wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts Roger. Not gonna get my hopes up, I just thought it was interesting. Plus we havent had a date to look forward to in a while.

-- March 3, 2008 11:22 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I believe the dinar is being held low due to a decision by banking interest and the government to help in buying goods at low costs. Since oil is based in US dollars, and construction is going to be bought in Iraqi dinars, what I am thinking is that the dinar will be controlled for many years yet to come---while construction of the infrastructure is taking place. I am not looking for an RV soon, due to this factor. If the currency does RV, I will be pleasantly surprized.

Laura Parker

-- March 4, 2008 12:52 AM


Sara wrote:

I have been thinking on the posts given.. thanks again to you, Rob N, for the excellent and intriguing articles.. thanks to cornishboy too for the summary of what is happening in Iraq (a truly excellent post, thank you!) and his post about the oil debate, thanks to ahire for the post about another "maybe" date, and thanks to you for for your thoughtful insights Roger. :)

My thoughts below.. please read and comment:

Playing "The Shell Game" and then Blaming us

In the article I posted earlier today it says, "Iraq has lacked even the basic administrative ability to spend the oil revenue or aid accumulating in the government accounts, and lacked any reasonable accounting system to prevent massive portions of what it did spend from being diverted by corruption."

In this I see a great deal of the real money coming into the Iraqi government, but merely accumulating there or being siphoned off into "corruption".. this is what I feared was happening. Instead of the money going to Iraqis and creating jobs, it is being hoarded in limbo or siphoned off to greedy politicians. The Iraqi people have the right to have a piece of their own resources, perhaps as Kuwait has for its citizens, and this will not happen without the RV. The disparity between the real money's value and the Dinar value is so great that the Iraqi government can give huge amounts of Dinar to their pet projects and it isn't a drop in the bucket or a dent in the accumulated wealth which they are keeping for themselves. I do not believe that they "lack the basic administrative abilities" to oversee these areas of cashflow. They are intentionally keeping the money from reconstruction in order to siphon it off for their own greed.

It appears to me from this that the real wealth stays unused in the revenue column.. while they find ways to siphon it off into their own accounts, instead of going directly into the budget and creating jobs and opportunities for the Iraqi people. I think this will continue without a RV of the currency. They are playing "The Shell Game".. you remember it? That is the game where they put one pea under a shell and shuffle the three shells and you have to pick which one the pea is under. Even so, there are a great many Iraqis who just don't see which shell they put the "pea" under when they shuffle it. In comes the "pea" of, say, 20 million oil revenue DOLLARS, and these officials shuffle around the three shells and when they pick up the shell, there is either nothing under it, or an identical "pea" with the number 20 on it, but it is now 20 million DINARS. They took the "pea" for themselves entirely, or they only gave a tiny bit of it in the exchanged Dinar form to the people. This is a very real barrier to progress because they are robbing their own resources from the Iraqi people.

How long can this continue on? As long as they wish it to, unless the Iraqi people demand that the government gives it ALL to them (all 20 million DOLLARS worth, not 20 million DINARS worth). But do the Iraqi people SEE that this is what it happening? I don't think they do, and until they do and there is a change, these corrupt politicians can live on in their paradises, siphoning off more and more revenues as it comes in.. making themselves very rich.. while the people become poorer and poorer and more desperate. All the while the people hear nothing but blame going to the Americans and the "oil giants" - saying it is the US who is "stealing" the oil, and that is why the Iraqi people are not getting the revenues. What lies.. and hypocrisy!

Who will stand up for what is right? Well, if they were talking the same value of money the average Iraqi could easily SEE the difference, but the exchange rate hides the shell game in plain sight. These officials can say they took in 20 million and gave 20 million.. and that seems good enough. Remember that the level of education there is abysmally low.. how many really understand the financial situation well? We know that 20 million Dinar is nothing in value in relation to 20 million DOLLARS.. certainly not enough to do a reconstruction project.. but it sure sounds like a lot of money.. and the rest of what used to be 20 million DOLLARS gets siphoned off into an offshore account for the greedy politicians. How convienient for the corrupt officials that the Dinar remains unrevalued... hiding their antics in plain sight.

The oil majors are setting a fair deal, but they cannot control what happens to the Iraqi side of the revenues once the Iraqis receive it. They cannot run their government for them. They can do a fair business deal and get the profit made for both sides, so both sides are satisfied and win. But they cannot make the Iraqi side take the money and use it for the benefit and good of the people of Iraq. I believe without a fair value for the Dinar the ordinary Iraqi (who is more concerned with survival and day-to-day living) will miss what they are doing and may end up believing the conspiracy theorists that it is the "wicked oil guys" who are "stealing" the oil.. even though they know the Iraqi government is the one putting out the tenders for oil development and calling the shots about who gets what. Remember that it is the Iraqi government which decides who will get what.. and when the deal is struck.. if the Iraqi people get nothing from it.. who will get the blame? (We will, the "wicked" and "stealing" West.. NOT the corrupt Iraqi officials who are siphoning it off into their own coffers.)

I see the blame as squarely on the shoulders of the newly rich Iraqi government.. who is not managing the small amount of oil revenues they have at this point correctly but are "losing" it to corruption and greed. Read that quote again, "Iraq has lacked even the basic administrative ability to spend the oil revenue or aid accumulating in the government accounts, and lacked any reasonable accounting system to prevent massive portions of what it did spend from being diverted by corruption." MASSIVE portions were diverted by corruption.. what safeguards do they have in place to prevent a similar phenomenon from disenfranchising the Iraqi people in the future? The Iraqis are squabbling over who gets a piece of the pie at the table with the Sunni, Shiite and Kurds.. but once they finish their "political reconciliation" will the hard-won process only have enriched the politicians themselves? Will the average Iraqi ever see it.. or will the Iraqis end up like Nigeria as Investor's article guy said.. with no money going to the people but it all being wasted at the administrative level by corrupt officials? Remember the Iraqi people cannot force their government to do what they need, they rely on them to do the right deals and get them the reconstruction, jobs and revenue they and their families need.

Iraq has been given a chance at democracy. But it may be that their officials are too corrupt to have it work. If there is one measure which MAY have a shot at making honest men out of corrupt ones, and keeping the honest ones toeing that straight and narrow line without dipping into the cookie jar - it is making the accounting figures equal.. in other words, RV. If the Iraqi people can see one dollar coming in and then get one dollar in their bank account (1 to 1 RV), they will see real spending power and follow the money trails more easily themselves. They can then purchase with their money any goods they wish from abroad on equal footing, and also see how the government is buying and spending their hard earned resource money - which will keep the Iraqi politicians honest (even those who are corrupt). It removes "The Shell Game" from existence. Without the RV, what is going on financially gets lost on the Iraqi people.. they don't see "The Shell Game" going on and who is doing what.. and they will not know enough to hold these corrupt officials accountable for what they do not understand or see.

Personally, I don't see how Iraq will work properly without the RV at a decent rate. The RV is an anti-corruption and accountability necessity. Without it, the oil majors will end up continuing to deal with the corrupt officials in the government of Iraq, as they do other despots in the world.. with the oil majors making their legitimate profit while the corrupt dictators (or parliamentarians in this case) rake in the cash and go on their spending sprees and buy great goodies and large plots of Iraqi land, while the people live in squalor and real need. Did we really remove Saddam only to develop the oil fields for a bunch of henchmen? In my view, if they were honest men they would RV at a decent rate for the good of the Iraqi people.. instead, they play monopoly money kingdom and shell games with the revenues they get in - all the while blaming the "evil" west for making a legitimate business profit. But as for their falsified blame game to divert from the real Iraqi corruption, I believe - "Wisdom is justified of her children." (Matthew 11:19)

Thoughts, anyone?

Sara.

-- March 4, 2008 1:50 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura, you said, "I believe the dinar is being held low due to a decision by banking interest and the government to help in buying goods at low costs."

IF that were the case then buying goods at low cost would mean that there was a LOT of progress.. is that happening? Is there only TINY amounts of revenue going into the Iraqi coffers at this point? I don't think so.. hence my post that it must be "MASSIVE" corruption keeping the reconstruction from happening. There just isn't enough progress to account for the amount of revenue going IN being put to proper use, in my view.

I see what you say here as a red herring to divert from where "The Shell Game" is being played. An excuse to say to the Iraqi people that they stay impoverished for many MANY years to come (even with increased revenue!!) due to trying to build a better building project. That doesn't cut it with me. Buying goods at low cost has to mean better living for the Iraqi people... do we see that widespread now? Is the full picture given in the merely unreported as cornishboy posted.. or is it also not happening because of MASSIVE and ongoing corruption and greed? I think time will tell in full.. but I think we can see a bit of the truth now. I think the West is being set up here to take the fall for the corruption with the conspiracy nuts pre-programming the Iraqi people to say the West is "stealing" the revenues from oil while the corrupt officials siphon it off for themselves. Remember, it is IRAQ calling the shots about who gets the oil contracts and how much money they get to make.. not those winning the oil contracts.

Your view?

Sara.

-- March 4, 2008 2:07 AM


Sara wrote:

PS

No, I do not see the US as "ultimately responsible" for the Iraqi greed and corruption. There is only so far the US can go in "oversight" of an independently sovereign nation. The US would be responsible if they held the keys to this process, but they do not. They took over Iraq but then put the IRAQIS in charge of their own economy (and likely rue the day they did so because it means they cannot correct the corruption as they would wish to). Because the Iraqis are calling the shots, the US cannot FORCE them to use the Iraqi revenues in an uncorrupt way. If the corruption extends into the upper levels of government (as it does with despots), then you have to negotiate with the corrupt government as it stands. The only other choice is to overthrow the corrupt government and put in a new one.. but what guarantee is there that the next set of Iraqis will be any less vulnerable to corruption and greed? And the idea of putting in a puppet government - I hardly think the world will condone the US taking over and running the government of Iraq themselves. This leaves the US negotiating with Iraqi officials.. corrupt and greedy OR true and responsible.. whichever they happen to be. Which do you think they are.. corrupt or true? greedy or responsible?

Sara.

-- March 4, 2008 2:24 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

I am not implying that Iraq's government official may or may not be corrupt in their deeds. There certainly is a great deal of corruptions!. I agree with these observations. Part of this is the responsiblity of the USA in our ability to oversee and account for the money we give them. Instead, we hand these government and politicians money, when we know they are suspected in corruption-- simply because they have the right words. Doing the right deeds have not been what Iraqi's have learned in their dealing with the former regime.

Having said this, it is still my belief that there are still officials in the government that want to do right by the people. I believe that not all people in government or the banking industry are corrupt.

I believe there is a plan to rebuild Iraq and that Iraq,s government and banking institutions are working with the USA government to hold the dinar low. I think this is true due to all wages, building materials etc are going to be paid in Iraqi dinars.

The higher the dinar value, the more expensive the rebuilding process will be. This is the reality despite widespread corruption.

I also believe that corruption will have to be dealt with and as the USA gets more accountability in place, corrupt people will be caught. This past week, I read the USA Secretary of Treasury is sending more people to do accountablity studies of the money we have given to the Iraqi government because of corruption. While I admit your observation on corruption is correct Sara, I still stand by my observations of the decisions I believe that the Iraq government, bank officials and USA government are working towards.

Look at what has happened since year 2003. The currency has moved from over 3000 dinars to the rate of 1210 thereabouts. This move has been systematic and while it has not moved as quick as some of us might have wanted, the slow re-valuing has taken place. We also know that tons of equipment has been delivered to Iraq for the rebuilding process (Information we got through Panhandler).

In addition,the USA government has spent a great deal of money in Iraq and for this reason alone, I do not believe dispite what the politicians are saying that the USA is going to leave Iraq to fail. I believe, our troops are there for the long haul. If you listen to Hillary, our combat troops will come home (noting that there will be troops in Iraq).

It may just be that USA pulls out and goes to distant bases like we have talked in out blogs of the past. This would leave the Iraqi's to sort out there own affairs. Sometimes, it if very difficult to allow people to be sortly dependent on USA and this may take distance on our parts to get the people to stand up to their politicians. After all, they (the people of Iraq) are electing these folks.

The process of reconstruction maybe very slow, and eventually, someone in Iraq has got to take the lead for the people. How long can the suffering continue. I am like Roger, in his last post, the RV will have to happen to allow the people a descent living. There are many indicators that says it needs to happen. However, like Roger stated, the people are used to a controlled economy. It's hard to get away from this culturally. They have not lived in a free floating economy for their currency.

However, I am still convince that someone (Iraq Government, Banking Institutions, IAF, and USA government are controlling the rate of the re-value of the dinar currency and there has to be some reasoning behind the process of revaluing of the dinar currency. I think it is related to reconstruction from USA side of it. The USA has made many promises to the Sunni population that joined forces with USA instead of the insurgency.

Maybe, I am naive Sara, I still believe that dispite the corruption that there are still some good people in Iraq that want to do the right deeds. It is just a hunch.

Laura Parker

-- March 4, 2008 4:02 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Laura:

I wanted to address your reference to a revaluation of the Iraqi currency. If we all agree the managed rate is not good for Iraq or its people, how is a managed revaluation any better?

I do not think we should be looking for a revaluation of the currency by the CBI. A revaluation fails to reach the "real rate" of the Dinar. For sometime I have been advocating a limited free float of the Dinar. This limited free float of the exchange rate is limited by the GoI cash reserves, gold on hand, and petro dinars.

A limted free float within these parameters will achieve what a managed rate cannot the "real rate". Once the Hydro Carbon Law is passed and Iraq is released from Article VII (returning Iraq's national soverignty) could lead to full de-dollarization that could pave the way for a limited free float of the Dinar on the foreign exchange market.

Thanks,

Rob N.


-- March 4, 2008 10:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The beginning of oil majors in Iraq has begun.
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BAGHDAD–More than 100 companies including foreign majors are vying for deals to tap Iraq's vast oilfields, but a vital oil law is stalled by tension involving the Kurdish region, Baghdad's oil minister said yesterday.

Hussain al-Shahristani said 115 companies had registered to compete for oil extraction and service contracts to help develop Iraq's oil reserves, the world's third-largest.

Of these, 10 are American, with companies also from Japan, Russia, Britain, Canada and South Korea.

Shahristani said Iraq was close to finishing negotiations with several oil majors for two-year technical support contracts that hopefully would be signed in March.

Those majors include Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Exxon Mobil Corp, Total and Chevron Corp., he said.

Iraq currently exploits only a fraction of its reserves, among the cheapest to produce in the world, and international oil companies have been positioning for years to gain access.

Shahristani said the fields up for grabs under the contracts included Iraq's giant fields in the south along with Kirkuk in the north. He said the qualified companies would be announced in March.

"From announcing the qualified companies to the signing of the contracts will take a minimum one and a half or two years, but we will try to make it within a year," he said.

Shahristani said he hoped the technical support contracts would add 500,000 barrels per day of oil to Iraq's output in a year.

"We are negotiating with these five companies. We are at the end of the negotiations," Shahristani said, referring to the five majors.

"They will study the fields with us, we will put together a plan to boost production, they will help us to select the equipment and deliver this equipment to us."

Iraq produces about 2.5 million barrels of oil a day, dwarfed by its 115 billion barrels of proven crude oil reserves. Only those of Saudi Arabia and Iran are larger.

One oil official said last year that Iraq's oil sector could need as much as $75 billion (U.S.) in investment.

The extraction and service contracts should add 1.5 million bpd to output once they were in place, Shahristani added.

Combined with the additional flows from the technical support contracts, Iraq's output would hopefully rise to 4.5 million bpd in five years, he said. Of this total, 3.5 million bpd would be exported and the rest kept for domestic use.

Shahristani said technical support contracts did not entitle companies to any share in production.

"The benefit is that they will show interest in co-operating with Iraq and supporting us technically. They will have knowledge of the parameters of the fields and then they can ... make us an offer which is better than others," he said.

The service and extraction contracts are also seen as a stop-gap until a crucial oil law is passed, and will not provide the long-term involvement big oil companies crave.

But the draft law remains stalled in parliament.

Yesterday, Addax Petroleum Corp. of Calgary said it had signed a deal with the Kurdistan regional government in Iraq that amends a production-sharing contract with Genel Enerji to bring the Taq Taq project into line with the region's oil and gas law, including royalties, cost recovery and profit sharing.

Shahristani said he believed a major obstacle to Iraq's oil law passing would be the signing of oil deals between the government in the largely autonomous Kurdistan region and smaller foreign energy firms. Those firms, he said, would be prohibited from competing in central government deals.
(www.thestar.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 4, 2008 10:14 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Needs Strides in Economy and Governance to Cut Attacks, a Top General Says

The former No. 2 American commander in Iraq says that, without economic and political progress, it will not be possible to reduce substantially the current level of violence there.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 4, 2008 10:16 AM


Sara wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts, Laura. I, too, hope that "there are still some good people in Iraq that want to do the right deeds" and that we are not being naive in our hopes for the Iraqi people.

To summarize your words, "I am still convinced that someone (Iraq Government, Banking Institutions, IAF, and USA government) is controlling the rate of the re-value of the dinar currency and there has to be some reasoning behind the process of revaluing of the dinar currency. I think it is related to reconstruction.. I believe there is a plan to rebuild Iraq and that Iraq's government and banking institutions are working with the USA government to hold the dinar low. I think this is true due so that all wages, building materials etc are going to be paid in Iraqi dinars. The higher the dinar value, the more expensive the rebuilding process will be. This is the reality despite widespread corruption."

What this says to me is that, by keeping the Dinar low, they can get cheap domestic labor. As you said, the wages can be bought for a lot less than on the open market this way. If you only have to pay a few million Dinar to an impoverished Iraqi, why pay more (what the job is worth) on the open market? This is systematic corruption in my way of thinking because it oppresses the Iraqi people and gives them next to nothing for their legitimate labor. They deserve a decent wage at a competitive rate and the Iraqi government CAN afford to pay it to them. The government will be/are making a lot of money in these deals - they can pay a decent wage to those they hire. "Keeping the costs down" at the expense of the Iraqi people is hardly an improvement for the country and the standard of living which is destined to become the Iraqis lot in life.

As for building materials being cheaper, I don't think so. If they buy those materials on the open international market (where ELSE can they get them, the Iraqis do not manufacture them), then they will pay international prices. So they cannot cut back on that cost by not Revaluing. Therefore, the only ones suffering by a low valuation of the Dinar are the poor Iraqis who are going to be deprived of a decent living wage and given third world wages for their labor while their politicians live high on the hog.

No, them NOT RVing the Dinar is not a wise and prudent use of money. It is the cause of unrest (keeping the wages so low makes poor people desperate and some turn to terrorism to make ends meet) and discontent. It impoverishes the Iraqi people as the politicians "cut back" on their costs on the back of the poor people of Iraq. It is political abuse, not freedom. The government then remains in their monopoly kingdom, giving tiny bits to the poor Iraqis and keeping the majority of the gravy for themselves. Then, they blame the Western powers for charging for their diligent labor at normal prices (the laborer is worthy of his hire - Luke 10:7) and say that the West taking a normal profit is the reason that the Iraqis are paid so little and do not get ahead. No..the real reason for the oppression of the Iraqi people and a lack of prosperity is Iraqi government corruption and an unwillingness to share the profits they are raking in with the Iraqi people whose labors are helping to bring in money from their (the Iraqi people's and the country of Iraq's) natural resources.

So no, I do not see that the Iraqi government is being fiscally conservative but abusive, cheating the Iraqi people of rightful wages for their labor - like the Chinese who pay their people low wages and expose them to health hazards without regard for their safety or well being just to turn a profit. The only ones I see profiting from a low Dinar are the Iraqi politicians who can purchase cheap labor (cheaper than importing it from abroad) and so keep the Iraqi people poor.. riding the backs of the poor while they continue on in their "glass houses" of oil wealth. Perhaps they plan something better than what I am seeing.. we can always hope. But the ONLY excuse for not RVing I can see is what you said here, to CUT BACK on paying rightful wages. What else could not RVing be for?

So, to summarize, in my opinion your view that not RVing is to cut costs is only smoke and mirrors to keep the flow of oil money in the hands of the politicians instead of having the money go into the pockets of the people of Iraq by paying them rightful wages and creating decent paying jobs. The Iraqi government cannot defray the costs of building materials because they must buy them at a normal price from the international marketplace. Therefore the only reason NOT to RV is to keep their labor costs low.. and that means keeping the people of Iraq poor.

Your comments on my view is welcome.. what do you think? Is my thinking on why they are not RVing true? If not, where is the error in my thinking?

Sara.

-- March 4, 2008 10:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Off Topic: Global Warming

It appears the Global Warming debate is poised to begin to heat up (no pun intended)by moving from public opinion to the courts.
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Weather Channel Founder Blasts Network; Claims It Is 'Telling Us What to Think'
TWC founder and global warming skeptic advocates suing Al Gore to expose 'the fraud of global warming.'

“[i] have a feeling this is the opening,” Coleman said. “If the lawyers will take the case – sue the people who sell carbon credits. That includes Al Gore. That lawsuit would get so much publicity, so much media attention. And as the experts went to the media stand to testify, I feel like that could become the vehicle to finally put some light on the fraud of global warming.”

Earlier at the conference Lord Christopher Monckton, a policy adviser to former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, told an audience that the science will eventually prevail and the “scare” of global warming will go away. He also said the courts were a good avenue to show the science.
(http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...303175301.aspx)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 4, 2008 10:50 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

I agree with you about the need in Iraq for a limited free float of the Dinar which would bring about the "real rate" of the Dinar. As you said, we all agree the managed rate is not good for Iraq or its people, so how would a managed revaluation end up being any better?

As you posted today in "Iraq Needs Strides in Economy and Governance to Cut Attacks, a Top General Says" QUOTE, "The former No. 2 American commander in Iraq says that, without economic and political progress, it will not be possible to reduce substantially the current level of violence there."

Without the Revaluation of the Dinar with the attendant economic progress of a real value for the currency of Iraq and real wages and prosperity for their jobs, the progress will not be sustained and violence will not be reduced. Poor desperate people will continue to breed more violence, distrust and instability.

Sara.

-- March 4, 2008 10:57 AM


Sara wrote:

Off topic for a minute.. reply to Rob N about:

Global Warming carbon credits worth BILLIONS...

Rob N - Global warming is indeed a money grab by the people who sell carbon credits. I pray that what Lord Christopher Monckton said is true, namely, that "the science will eventually prevail and the “scare” of global warming will go away." It took flat earthers and those who believed the earth was the center of the universe a long time to be finally silenced. Because they held power, they were even allowed to persecute those who held to the truth, and they even forced Galileo renounce the truth.. "Under the threat of torture, Galileo renounced his findings. Despite his recantation, Galileo was placed under house arrest for the rest of his life." http://www.talkinbroadway.com/regional/nj/nj107.html

I hope this is not true today and that true science will prevail not only in the end but in the near term through this lawsuit. There can be a lot of opposition from the entrenched interests - and these ones are MONETARY interests with a lot of cash behind them because they stand to make such a huge amount of money if people believe their lies instead of the truth. The carbon credits they are selling are worth BILLIONS, so it is a money grab of great economic proportions.

If Lord Monckton is correct and the truth prevails in the near term, maybe then they can then replace the prize they gave Al Gore of a Nobel Peace Prize for a Pulitzer Prize for fiction - for the best accepted modern fictional work which was able to pull the wool over the eyes of public opinion?

Sara.

Quotes of Note:

"what's climate change about if not profit? The global market for carbon reduction credits is worth more than $20 billion and booming."
http://newsbusters.org/node/13171

Will Media Report Global Warming 'Carbon Credit' Fraud?
It’s conceivable that years from now, America’s media will be reporting one of the biggest frauds in history: the idea that a wealthy person, for instance, soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore, can purchase “carbon credits” to offset his lavish lifestyle making him quote “carbon neutral.”
http://newsbusters.org/node/12314

Media Ignore Al Gore’s Financial Ties to Global Warming
As NewsBusters reported here, here, and here, there are huge dollars to be made from global warming alarmism. However, conceivably no one is better positioned to financially benefit from this scam than Dr. Global Warming himself, former Vice President Al Gore, a fact that the media will surely not share with Americans any time soon.

Yet, if America’s press would take some time out of their busy schedules they might find a deliciously inconvenient truth about the soon-to-be-Dr. Gore.. as reported by Dan Riehl (emphasis mine throughout):

Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years. (end quote)

Think Katie, Charlie, or Brian will be all over this tonight? Regardless, that was just the tip of the questionably melting iceberg as reported by Bill Hobbs in Nashville, Tennessee who wrote:

[H]ow Gore buys his "carbon offsets," as revealed by The Tennessean raises serious questions. According to the newspaper's report, Gore buys his carbon offsets through Generation Investment Management, QUOTE:

"Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe..."

Gore is chairman of the firm and, presumably, draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he "buys" his "carbon offsets" from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself. To be blunt, Gore doesn't buy "carbon offsets" through Generation Investment Management - he buys stocks. (end quote)

Fascinating. So, as Dr. Global Warming travels the world in his private jet while spending 20 times the average American on energy for his home, all the time telling us its okay because he’s buying carbon offsets, he’s actually purchasing these investments from himself.

Furthermore, and maybe more important, Gore stands to benefit financially in a potentially huge way if more and more people buy into this junk science.

Isn’t that special?

http://www.newsbusters.org/node/11149

-- March 4, 2008 11:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Insight: Petrodollar tsunami to hit euro and dollar

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By Stephen Jen

With crude oil at $100 a barrel, there is going to be a massive transfer of global financial wealth from oil consuming countries to oil exporters. Some of these windfalls will be absorbed by the economies of the oil producers, but a far larger amount will be invested outside them. Indeed, a petrodollar tsunami is coming, with significant consequences for global financial markets.
How big are petrodollars? They are big and getting bigger with the rise of oil prices. We can look at this in terms of the financial worth of the stocks of proven oil reserves underground, or in terms of flows – ie the value of the annual oil exports. At $100 a barrel, the total proven reserves of the oil exporting countries is about $104,000bn – equivalent to the combined total value of publicly-traded equities and bonds in the world. About $48,000bn of this belongs to the Gulf Co-operation Council member countries – which include Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. The rest of Opec owns another $44,000bn, while non-Opec countries (Canada, Norway, Mexico and Russia) own some $12,000bn worth of oil reserves.
The flows are massive too. At the current pace of production and exports, and at $100 a barrel, collectively, oil exporters are projected to earn a total of $2,100bn in oil export receipts annually.
Such large windfall receipts/profits could in theory be invested in domestic physical infrastructure. However, the size of the GDP of most of these oil exporters is relatively modest. What would be considered ‘significant’ investment, equivalent to 5-10 per cent of GDP, would amount to only about 5-10 per cent of their annual oil revenues. Thus, the bulk of the petrodollar windfalls for most oil-exporting countries will still not be spent, but will be saved and deployed in the global financial markets.
There are two key implications. First, the deployment of petrodollars is likely to favour equities over bonds. Second, they should favour emerging market currencies at the expense of both the dollar and the euro (Go Dinar and VND !! ). These two themes are identical to the financial market implications of the emergence of Sovereign Wealth Funds, because about half of the petrodollar receipts may be invested through SWFs, and close to three-quarters of all assets under management by SWFs are derived from petrodollars.
Over the past 20 years, spot crude oil has significantly under-performed global equities, by a factor of one to three in cumulative returns, and by a factor of two to one in terms of volatility. In other words, crude oil has had a much lower return and much higher volatility compared with global equities. Calculations using data from the past 100 years yield a similar result.
Thus, from the perspective of maximising the risk-adjusted long-term return on the combined underground wealth (crude oil) and above-ground wealth (financial assets), an exporter should be expected to embark on a multi-generational transformation from crude oil to equities.
Since most oil exporting countries have a much higher propensity to invest in equities than do Asian reserve holders, because petrodollars are deployed in the financial markets, there will be a bias in favour of global equities.
At the same time, if we assume that SWF/petrodollar portfolios have benchmarks of 25:45:30 on bonds, equities, and alternative investments, the currency composition of these portfolios will look significantly different from that of the official reserves. In fact, some 95 per cent of the world’s official reserves are held in only three currencies: the dollar, the euro and the pound.
While many observers focus on the shift in reserves between dollars and euros, the deployment of petrodollar investments will in fact likely tilt the balance in favour of emerging market currencies, at the expense of both the dollar and the euro. Specifically, we calculate that the theoretical share of emerging market assets in total petrodollar portfolios could be as high as 25 per cent, compared with the current exposure of official reserves to emerging market currencies of zero.
Stephen Jen is Chief Currency Economist at Morgan Stanley
(http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c56c0aa8-e...0779fd2ac.html)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 4, 2008 2:07 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara, (A response to your writing)--

Most of the materials that the Iraqi's are going to need have already been purchased by the American's on the backs of the american taxpayer. Panhandler states that tons and tons of materials arrive everyday to help Iraq rebuild their country. Also, news stories have shown the tons and tons of items the military has been collecting on their various bases. We (americans) have spent about two trillon dollars on the war and rebuilding the Iraq country.

Items like cement, Iraq government makes contracts with other countries like Iran (and yes, this will cost Iraq some monies, be it dinars or dollars) whatever, Iran takes as payment. Also, Iran is also suppose to build two power plants for Iraq and this should be interesting.

As to the American's being all about paying descent wages to the Iraqi's or other foreigners, I only need to point out the reality of who we (the americans) hired to build the USA embassy. Remember the stories of how we hired people from Asia and paid them little in return for their labor on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad. So no, Sara, I do not believe that the Iraqi's and Americans would find such a strategy to be beneath them.

However, as Roger points out, the people of Iraq (the general population) do not know about free markets (like the americans and it's benefits of higher wages and better living standards). They do not understand what the americans mean when we talk about a democracy either. Many of them are asking "What do the americans mean by democracy?"...at least these were the stories coming out of the Sunni strongholds in nothern Iraq. I am speaking of people who have barely survived under Saddam Hussein.

Corruption and survival is all the Iraqi's (general population)have known. Nothing in the former regime was built on skills but party affiliation, tribal relations (families), socialized welfare from Saddam and survival skills by stealing what one needs from day to day.

Remember the stories of how many of the common people were climbing poles to divert electricity in the streets; phones; oil pipelines were being diverted and gasoline trucks highjacked etc. Whatever it takes-- in the politics of the day---like joining the insurgency is what survival from day to day in Iraq is like. Stealing is not out of bounds. So, no Sara, here again, the common people are corrupt like the people they are electing. Everything in Iraqi society was based on bribes of government officials and paying off somebody to get favorable results to an ordinary Iraqi citizen.

It is a sad reality the above mention stories; and that a large number of the Iraqi people are under the age of 20 years old too boot! I read that somewhere (can't remember where on the youngness of the Iraqi people)?? So yes, you are right that many of the Iraqi's uneducated would not understand the shell game of 20 million dinars to 20 million dollars.

Morever, there are some very educated Iraqi's that do understand the difference!!! (But are the educated, ethical?) I am hoping that with education and a different ethical training from these more educated ethical Iraqi's...that Iraq will find what it means to be a democracy. But, I will admit that this may only happen in a turn over (deaths) of a generation or two.

While I agree that politicians, rich folks and high government officials are in more favorable situations to steal greater sums of money, corruption is still corruption. Iraq did not get this way over night. Iraq's people since 2003 have had to learn about Americans (face to face)and about America's democracy. We have not been a perfect people, as we too, have had our ethical lapses (see above examples).

However, America does bear a strong responsibility for how much we americans have allowed the Iraqi's to steal from us through our lack of accountability; and we knew better! We, american's saw what the Iraqi's were capable of doing in Kuwait (when Saddam took over their territory and USA took it back for Kuwait).

The Iraqi's stole everything in sight that wasn't nailed down. Learning ethics was an issue then and continues to be so...even to the point that the U.S. military had to offer ethics training to young Iraqi's.

What I hope is that Iraqi's learn personal honesty and not to allow greed to take over their lives. But I fear that not all Iraqi's will adhere to this ethical standard. Oil/gasoline thief is still up. Gangs and militia's are also taking over by sheer force oil plants in southern Basra.

Only God knows how Iraq will be cemented together in his plans and that of America. Sara, I remember once you saying that you were inquiring of God when the Iraqi's were going to RV?. From my recollection, you stated, you received your answer as, "When everyone has given up hope, and people least expect it, then, there will be an RV." That sounds like a long time.

Laura Parker

-- March 4, 2008 8:31 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Rob N.,

The reality is that CBI and international banking (over sight)-can't remember thier initials?? are the ones calling the shots on the value of the dinar. It would appear that they have decided for now to limit the value of the dinar and inflation to the economy.

I believe, (my guess) is that CBI believes that once the economy gets going in the reconstruction process that normal Iraqi's will benefit in wages through a great deal of hours in their work to improve their living conditions. There will be a lot of work to get accomplished.

In the meantime, Iraqi Government will benefit by oil income in USA dollars to help in the reconstruction process (at least, that is the American view). From my observations, it would appear that Iraqi's expect America to put all or most of the costs in reconstruction (to me, this is greed, and it has to stop). As the Iraqi's are said to place income in oil in special accounts and the income just sits in these accounts without dispersing income on reconstruction.

What materials the US Government has not purchased, Iraq is purchasing from its neighbors probably in dinars.

Whatever, we might think about a limited free floating currency Rob N., those in the know are not letting this happen. In Dubai, just a little down the strait from Iraq, the arabs there also used cheap labor to build their empire. I think we will just have to wait and see what happens... as I said, I am only speculating on what I have been observing.

Laura Parker

-- March 4, 2008 9:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Huckabee Drops Bid for Republican Presidential Nomination
by Associated Press
Tuesday, March 4, 2008

IRVING, Texas — Mike Huckabee bowed to reality Tuesday and out of the Republican presidential race.

“We kept the faith,” he told his end-of-the-road rally Tuesday after John McCain clinched the nomination. “I’d rather lose an election than lose the principles that got me into politics in the first place.”

Huckabee rarely raised a negative word during the campaign about McCain, a man he clearly likes, and he called him Tuesday night to congratulate him.

Huckabee said he extended “my commitment to him and to the party to do everything possible to unite our party, but more importantly to unite our country.”

Huckabee vowed: “We aren’t going away completely. We want to be a part of helping to keep the issues alive that have kept us in this race.”

For a time, conservatives dissatisfied with McCain were drawn to Huckabee, but the party began to unite behind the likely — and now certain — nominee.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/04/huckabee-drops-bid-for-republican-presidential-nomination/

-- March 5, 2008 1:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Laura:

No doubt corruption exists in Iraq. Where there are large amounts of money (whether US dollars or Iraqi Dinar)there is greed.

Concerning Iraqs reconstruction, the US sat the precedent after World War II by baring the brunt of reconstruction costs for Japan. It is in Iraq's best interest for to have the west pay these costs. It is also in Iraq's best interest for crude oil to be over a $100 a barrel.Though we experience a sliding dollar and $4.00 plus a gallon gasoline the economics here at home are the sacrifical lambs for a peacful and properous Iraq.

Those of us who have invested in Iraq whether by holding physical dinars, Al-Warka Bank Accounts, or ISX shares stand to prosper very well. If a managed revaluation is how the CBI wishes to address their undervalued currency it is the tip of the iceburg.

A managed rate whether it is 1210/1 or 1000/1 cannot achieve the "real rate". This "real rate" can only be realized in a limited free float. This limit is set by Iraq's currency reserves, gold, and petro dinars. These items will completely de-dollarize that economy.

If a managed revaluation occurs do not cash out instead, continue hang on to your investment. Eventually, a limited free float will be used to further strengthen the Iraqi currency rate.

From what I have read, it looks as though parliment will again address the Hydro Carbon Law at the end of March. 115 oil companies have submitted requests for TSAs (technical service agreements). It is a matter of time before the CBI has to address the value of the New Iraqi Dinar. It is my feeling that time is closer than it ever has been.

I am very bullish on the Dinar. I think it wise to purchase more Dinars in whatever form you choose. All of these events including the release of Iraq from United Nations Article VII and a long term US presence will ensure a peaceful and prosperous Iraq.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 10:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

I took your instructions about opening a dollar/dinar account and emailed Al-Warka this morning.

The high interest savings account or two year CD at 17% are both appealing to me. I will keep you posted.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 11:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi cabinet gives green light to oil ministry to sign oil deals
The Associated PressPublished: March 5, 2008

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BAGHDAD: Iraq's cabinet has given the green light to the Oil Ministry to sign agreements with international oil companies to help increase the nation's crude output, a ministry official said Wednesday.

The two-year deals, known as technical support agreements, or TSAs, are designed to develop five producing fields to add 500,000 barrels per day to the country's current 2.4 million barrels per day output.

Last December, Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSB), BP PLC (BP), ExxonMobil Corp. (XOM) and Chevron Corp. (CVX) submitted technical and financial proposals for the five oil fields and received counterproposals from the Iraqi side.

In January, representatives from the companies and from Iraq met again in Amman, Jordan, and they will hold the third round of discussions later this month, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to release information.

In Vienna, Iraq's Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani said that Iraq intends to compensate these companies with crude oil rather than in cash, the Dow Jones Newswires reported on Wednesday.

Today in Africa & Middle East

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Speaking to reporters as he arrived for a meeting of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, al-Shahristani said the Oil Ministry was still working on the compensation details with the Development Fund of Iraq, controlled by the U.S. and the U.N.

According to the Oil Ministry official, BP will submit a proposal for the Rumaila oil field, Chevron for West Qurna stage 1, Exxon for Zubair, and Shell for Missan and Kirkuk.

Iraq's average production was 2.4 million barrels per day in January while exports stood at an average of 1.92 million barrels per day. December's exports averaged 1.81 million barrels per day.

In dire need of expertise from international oil companies to achieve the Oil Ministry's target of 3 million barrels per day by the end of 2008, Iraq has been relying on a Saddam Hussein-era natural resources law until Parliament approves a new oil law to regulate the international oil companies' work and share Iraq's oil resources among the country's Shiites, Sunni Arabs and Kurds.

More than 70 international firms met the ministry's deadline of Feb. 18 to compete for tenders to help develop Iraq's oil reserves, seen as vital to providing the funds to rebuild the shattered country.

Iraq has not said what fields it will tender, or on what terms, but the service and extraction contracts on offer are seen as a stopgap until the oil law is passed, and will not provide the long-term involvement big oil companies want.
(http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/05/africa/ME-FIN-Iraq-Oil-Deals.php)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 11:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

8th cooperation agreement signed between Iran and Iraq - Irna

Iran's commerce attache in Iraq Mehdi Nejatnia told IRNA that the agreement was in direction of expansion of trade and commerce between the two countries.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 11:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Dayni calls for total implementation of resolution 1770 05/03/2008 14:46:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP Muhammad Al-Dayni has called for the total implementation of UN resolution 1770 of 2007, which characterizes the United Nations as an associate and a supervisor in the Iraqi issue. Al-Dayni told the National Iraqi News Agency
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 11:51 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Rob N.,

Thank you for the articles you submitted. Did everyone catch how Iraq is intending to pay oil companies for their technical support?. Oil companies will be paid in oil and not in cash!!! Interesting!. The oil companies will of course be able to sell this oil on the international markets. This deal is very smart on the Iraqi side.

I wonder what Iraq is offering the Iranians and their other neighbors?. Their neighbor's like Iran is reported to have oil.

Also, Rob N. your comments about the limited free floating of the dinar is noted. Although, I note your comments about the Iraqi interests to have the USA pay for everything, I still contend that USA (point of view) is to have the Iraqi's at least pick up part of the tab with their petro-dollars.

However, you are probably right that USA will be picking up the tab on this one. In Japan, Japan was not sitting on this much oil. Their country could not have supported the destruction that our military placed on places of their country.

In may last write up, I hope everyone realizes that I am not saying that all Iraqi's are corrupt. What I was pointing out is that culturally, the country has survived on corruption. Which is one of the reasons, we (americans or other foreign nationals) cannot mail by Fed-Ex/mail to Al-Warka or (any other bank in Iraq) Iraqi dinars for deposit (as bloggers have previously written about their deposits were stolen in the Fed/Ex envelopes). I hope, this issue clears up for the Iraqi's. I said this as a reminder to you Rob N. on your latest endeavor in contacting Al-Warka. Keep it in mind.

Laura Parker

-- March 5, 2008 1:01 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Rob N.

The limited free floating will not completely de-dollarized the Iraqi economy. Petro-economy is paid in dollars at the present time. I think you meant that the dinars would not be tied to the dollar for valuations but to their gold and silver. Iran for some time has talked about changing the petro dollars (USA dollars to the euro) and at this time, this has not happened. Time will only tell about this issue.

Laura Parker

-- March 5, 2008 1:09 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Laura:

I do not plan on sending any of my dinars to Al-Warka via Fedex. I will fund a brand new account at Al-Warka through wire transfer. The Dinars I have will be kept by me here in the U.S..

De-Dollarization is necessary for the Dinar to reach its full potential. The limited free float within the limits I described along with petro dinars as an effect will de-dollarize the iraqi economy. The ultimate goal is for a free exchange rate rather than a rate managed by the CBI.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 5, 2008 2:49 PM


mattuk wrote:

Hi All, A few days ago a new "date" came up again, part of that message mentioned the Rafidain Bank in London...well, look at this - it may or may not be of interest ???...Mattuk

RAFIDAIN BANK
(in Provisional Liquidation)
Branch Address:
7-10 Leadenhall Street
London
EC3V 1NL
An entity incorporated in Iraq
Registered UK Foreign
Company No. FC004222
© 2008 PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. All rights reserved.

WELCOME

Notice is hereby given that, on 18 December 2007 the High Court of Justice in England and Wales (the “Court”) issued a Court Order instructing the Provisional Liquidators to convene a meeting of Scheme Creditors (the “Scheme Meeting”) to enable Scheme Creditors of Rafidain Bank (in Provisional Liquidation) to vote on and, if thought fit, approve (with or without modification) the Scheme of Arrangement, subject to the sanction of the Court.

The Scheme Meeting will take place on 20 March 2008 at 11:00 am (London time) at the offices of Norton Rose LLP at 3 More London Riverside, London SE1 2AQ, United Kingdom. Registration will commence at 10:30 am (London time). Documents relating to the Court Order and the Scheme of Arrangement are available to review and/or download from the sections listed on the left hand menu of this website.

By accessing and continuing to use this site you are deemed to have read and understood the Legal Disclaimer.

LATEST NEWS: On 2 January 2008 the Provisional Liquidators distributed a voting pack to all known Scheme Creditors. The voting pack consisted of the Scheme documentation (containing an Explanatory Statement explaining the effect of the Scheme of Arrangement, the Scheme of Arrangement itself and a formal notice convening the Scheme Meeting), a voting form, a form of proxy for Scheme Creditors who will not be attending the Scheme Meeting in person to indicate their instructions to vote for or against the Scheme of Arrangement, notes to assist Scheme Creditors in completing their form of proxy and a map giving directions to the venue of the Scheme Meeting.

Completed voting forms and forms of proxy (where appropriate) should be returned as soon as possible, and in any event so that they are received by 11:00 am (London time) on 18 March 2008 by the Provisional Liquidators at PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP at Plumtree Court, London EC4A 4HT, United Kingdom, marked for the attention of Michael Gercke or David Chubb. Alternatively, Scheme Creditors may send their voting forms by facsimile to +44 (0) 207 212 6800 or by email to rafidain.bank@uk.pwc.com by the same time on the same date provided that the original voting forms are received by the chairman of the Scheme Meeting prior to the commencement of the Scheme Meeting. Please note that if the originals of faxed or emailed forms are not received within the time prescribed, they may be excluded.

-- March 5, 2008 4:40 PM


Roger wrote:

Hi all,

Rob N.

You've been a hard tooth to pull like an old wisdom tooth, but out it came. I hope your experience will pay out. My strategy is more of ISX, but any way is a good way.

Mattuk,

Yes that article was the basis for another possible RV date, interesting. They however are discussing a date where the bank will adjust some credits, and exchange rates from the time of the original credit is mentioned. I've sen that document, some put into it, that it might be a "slip" on an inside info that the RV is about to happen.

An RV might or might not happen, but not on the basis on a banks adjustment with creditors, and the exchange rate mentioned, have a completely different relevance in this document.

But hey, I am always for a new date to look forward to.

Why is the Dinar held down?

About the same reason the chicken crossed the road, and the different interpretations why it crossed.

Kennedy: -"Don't ask what the Chicken can do for you, ask what you can do for the Chicken."

Stalin: -"The working class Chicken have to march as one unit over the road, all others will be shot"

Hitler: -"Chickens play such an important role in the German life that I have appointed Himmler, an old Chicken farmer as chief of Gestapo."

Churchill: -"Never in the history of Chicken kind, have so many Chickens so much to thanks so few Chickens for so much".

Kerry: -"I was against Chickens before I voted for Chickens, and then decided against Chickens".

I don't know if there is a common insanity vector in humans that have been properly defined.

We have the culture, the wrongly schooled, the rightly schooled, the greed, the corruption, the incompetence, and the list goes on and on.

The players, CBI, USA, IMF, VB, Sunnis, Shite, Kurds, Iraqi Government, US Diplomatic corps in Baghdad, The international oil companies, the UN, Iran, Syria, Turkey. Bank interests in and out of Iraq, investors, Iraqi industry, and with those mentioned, I think I have left out quite a bit of other groups, persons or institutions.

The common pull from all this groups constitute insanity.

The common pull from all this groups, persons and institutions is a set of vectors that constitute a geometric definition of a ball.

The direction of that ball is the result of the total authority from all forces, exerted on that ball.

The more different forces are allowed to exert pressure on that ball, the more the ball will stall.

The more sane authority is exerted on that ball, the less of a ball it will be, and the more of an arrow with ONE vector, it will be.

Everyone and his bother are there and wants to help Iraq, and there are advise for this, for that, for anything. Iraq is put on programs, on schedules, on plans, and they are implementing forecasts, how to foresee the future, projected economical, financial and fiscal deadlines, criteria, and bla, bla.

Iraq is like a home of a misfortune'd person, when a Social Security Worker are in his home, digging in the closet checking for clothes and in the fridge checking for milk to the kids, setting up schedules, and teaching do's and dont's.

Each one of those forces in play are in themselves well meant, well planned and well intended, but an over all alignment have never taken root, as the Iraqis themselves are not fully aligned just yet, and the forces in play have all their own agenda.

All this confusion will eventually be cleared, eventually be transferred to the Iraqis themselves, and eventually they will have a rolling ball.

There are so much good news from Iraq in this time, that this in itself is a reason to believe that the progress of getting a self governing life is closing faster and faster.

It's a matter of lining up all the fores pulling in different directions, an impossible job, no country have ever been able to do that except in Dictatorships, but who wants those.

You want institutions to work, police, military, to hold their own, government to handle the state, and all the ministries to perform to a satisfactory level, school the kids, and make sure the hospitals work.

I would say, don't worry too much about it, the bones have aaaalmost grown together, there is not really a cohesive skeleton yet, but it is getting there.

The Iraqi state will, as any other state continue to develop, and that sequence is not something that will ever stop, but getting the basics to work is the important step here, once that is in, they're on their own, and will get their own ball rolling much better than when the social worker is telling him what to do.

They figure out all the things anyone else have figured out, the value of the industry, the value of good wages, and the value of what is worth investing into, what is good and what is junk.

The particulars, how to fill in the forms, what cabinet they should keep the files into, how to work a computer, and all that......that is just the rest of the story.

The Dinar will move in one way or the other, no question about that, how it will do it and when is a good question.

The ISX is a daily showstopper nowadays, and the value is rising steady. I am not sure they have figured out the good part of putting their industry as a whole, on the stock market yet, but it will come.

The laws that are necessary for the oil profit to be shared, it will come.

The investment into the oilfields, and the pumping, selling and the flow of oil money, it will come.

The phase that we're going through right now, have to play out, and we are leaving the old phase with pretty good speed.

The more it is rolling, the more of a line up in forces you will see, the more chaos is left behind, the more alignment in the society, the more alignment the better flow of particles, and eventually it will be as well oiled machinery as the culture will allow it to be.

Right now the Iraqi man is not seeing any fruits of the oil, but are on his same old , same old, routine.

Once the money starts flowing, the paychecks start to come in, he will have demands, and they will be in the form of
TV,s, boom boxes, cars, and stylish clothes, and at that time, his wallet will do the talking.

The Dinar will not stay, can not stay, and must not stay.

At least for the short future, as long as they have it strictly pegged to the Dollar, they have to continue to readjust for the falling Dollar, and the Dinar have been very inert for quite some time now.

Time to move on, perhaps they will do the big move.

Anything is possible, but they can for sure not continue to suppress the Iraqi man for long.

-- March 6, 2008 5:20 AM


Roger wrote:

About the ISX,

For you that are into the ISX, I have some observations.

From earlier experiences in similar situations, the construction companies or any company that has to do with construction in one form or the other, will typically be the big winners on the stock market.

I would say, continue to hoard those stocks, and as the construction companies come on board, on the stock market, go get'em.

However right now, the only big industry that are represented in volume is the banking system, and they seem to move along in a very good fashion.

In the future, the construction companies, build those up as your backbone, but for now, keep an eye on the bank stocks.

-- March 6, 2008 5:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

After requesting the dollar/dinar account, how long did it take for Al-Warka to respond to you with that information? Also, afer you transfered money to your Al-Warka account via Germany, how long did it take to receive confirmation that those funds are in your dollar/dinar account?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:24 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Laura:

The following article should be of great interest to you especially since we discussed the brunt of Iraqi construction cost being paid for by the west. Senator Levin's position certainly is valid.
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US senator wants Iraq oil funds used for rebuilding
3/5/2008

US senator wants Iraq oil funds used for rebuilding

By Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - The chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee said on Tuesday he may try to require Iraq to spend more of its oil revenue on reconstruction instead of investing the money in foreign banks.

"What kind of an absurdity is it that we are paying for the reconstruction of Iraq with American taxpayers dollars if Iraqi oil sales, to a significant degree, are going into foreign banks and not being used for their own reconstruction," said Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat.

Before the U.S. invasion of Iraq in early 2003, top Bush administration officials suggested some war costs could be financed through Iraqi oil revenues. That never occurred and U.S. taxpayers have instead seen about a half-trillion dollars of their money spent on the war so far.

In the meantime, there are estimates that Iraq has up to $30 billion in assets invested in U.S. financial institutions.

Levin said he would ask Congress' investigative arm, the General Accountability Office, or others in the U.S. government to look into Iraq's use of oil revenues.

He said he would decide after such an investigation whether to use this year's appropriations process to force Baghdad to change its financial practices.

Levin said Congress could condition future war funds on Iraq using its own revenues for reconstruction, reducing the burden on U.S. taxpayers.

According to government estimates, Congress has given the Bush administration $16 billion for reconstruction and relief efforts in Iraq.

"They (Iraq) are selling about $50 billion a year in oil. What are they doing with all the money?", Levin asked.

In December, President George W. Bush announced his intention to veto a defense bill after Baghdad complained about a provision that could freeze Iraqi assets in the United States if Americans sued for actions taken by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

At the time, Iraq also discussed the possibility of pulling its assets, estimated at $20 billion to $30 billion, out of U.S. banks if that defense measure became law.

Levin said that legislative dust-up prompted his look into Iraq's use of oil revenues.

During an Armed Services oversight hearing on Tuesday on U.S. military forces in Iraq, Levin asked William Fallon, the the top U.S. commander for the Middle East, about Iraq paying reconstruction costs.

Fallon said there were some concerns over Iraq's ability to effectively distribute oil revenues.

Levin responded, "I can't accept the answer that they're not capable of administering their own revenues." (Editing by Todd Eastham)
(www.safedinar.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

OPEC does not need to adjust output: Iraq
3/5/2008

OPEC does not need to adjust output: Iraq


VIENNA (Reuters) - OPEC does not need to change its oil output when it meets later on Wednesday, Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani told reporters.

"There does not seem to be a need to revise the current production levels, so I think we'll keep the same level," Shahristani said.

Iraq's output is not bound by the group's production targets.

He said Iraq was exporting 2 million barrels per day of crude from production of 2.5 million bpd.

The country is close to finishing negotiations with oil majors for technical support contracts to help tap its oilfields.

Sharistani reiterated comments made last week that he hoped they would be completed this month, but said there was one small point still being negotiated.
(www.safedinar.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Top US military officer opposes Iraq withdrawal timetable
Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff says precipitous withdrawal would sacrifice ‘gains made in Iraq’.

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Washington, 06 March 2008 (Middle East Online)
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The top US military officer said Wednesday he opposed a timetable for withdrawing US troops from Iraq but would carry out whatever decision a future president may make.

The Bush administration has consistently tied withdrawal of troops from Iraq to conditions on the ground, but that guideline may change abruptly if a Democrat is elected president.

Senator Barack Obama, the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, has said he will begin withdrawing US troops from Iraq immediately and will pull out all US combat brigades within 16 months.

Senator Hillary Clinton has said she would require the Joint Chiefs to draw up a plan for the immediate start for a withdrawal of US troops from Iraq within 60 days of her taking office.

"I am against a timetable. Yes, I am," said Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who would remain in office for at least the first year of next administration.

Mullen said he worried that a precipitous withdrawal would sacrifice the gains made in Iraq, and lead to the situation once again spiralling out of control.

"My recommendations will be made based on conditions on the ground," he told reporters.

"Should we get a direction -- actually any direction with a new administration -- I will assess that and make my recommendation, and then the president... whoever that might be, he or she, will make that decision and we'll move accordingly," he said.
(www.iraqudates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It is good to see agriculture beginning to revive in Iraq.
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Iraq issues new wheat tender

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06 March 2008 (The Sydney Morning Herald)
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Iraq's grain board has issued a new tender to buy 50,000 tonnes of hard wheat from any origin, its fourth tender this year, the Iraqi Trade Ministry says.

The bidding deadline is March 15 and must stay valid until March 20. No shipment times were specified.

Iraq regularly buys more wheat and rice than originally sought in tenders.

Political wrangling over budget allocations for further commodities purchases had halted grain tenders since over one million tonnes of mostly North American wheat was bought in September and October.

Iraq lawmakers passed the nation's $US48 billion ($A52 billion) budget for 2008 last month after weeks of delays.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to Iraq "blemishes" US-led policies
Front page / World / Asia
05.03.2008 Source: Pravda.Ru

The media did not pay much attention to the event that was really important for modern-day international relations. For the first time in a decade Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Iraq. A reason for this negligence is obvious: Ahmadinejad’s visit to Baghdad is only one of the most important stages of the forthcoming Iranian-Iraqi cooperation, which does not testify to successful foreign policies of the US administration.

The leaders of the Western states, including the USA, visit Baghdad secretly. Iran’s president, whose visit to Baghdad was no secret at all, said that US officials should realize the real state of affairs in the region and added that the Iraqis did not like the USA.

It is hard to say to which extent the Iraqis like Ahmadinejad, but they greeted the president of Iran with honors. Negotiations were conducted in a friendly atmosphere. A person ignorant of the development of the bilateral negotiations may wonder how the USA feels about these negotiations, for the USA is the stronghold of the present Iraqi state.

German reporter noted that it was impossible not to hear Washington grinding its teeth. But what can the USA do? Its operations in Iraq were so “successful” that even US diplomats were ordered to negotiate with their Iranian counterparts.

Baghdad has more reasons for friendly relations with Teheran than for hostility. Of course, American accusations of Iran supporting resistance in Iraq look quite convincing. But Iraq virtually remains the state of civil war. What may seem to be the support of terrorists may in fact turn out to be the armament of groups in their struggle against "invaders".

From the political point of view, it may seem that all members of the ruling Iraqi political elite sympathize with the Islamic Republic of Iran. The sympathy appeared when Teheran supported Iranian opposition to Saddam Hussein. Both Shiites and Kurds supported Iran during the lengthy Iran-Iraq war, while the USA helped Sunni Saddam. To terror of the USA, even Kurdistan is on good terms with Iran.

The economic point of the present cooperation is also of great importance: the neighboring states are ready to help Baghdad. For example, during the present visit an agreement on lending one billion dollars was signed. Experts say that Iran was very helpful in solving Iraq’s problems by supplying essential commodities and helping to restore the nation’s oil industry.

It will be interesting to see how Ahmadinejad’s visit to Iraq will affect home policies of the two states. Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki enjoys a stable position (even the USA can do nothing since all the other candidates for his post are much worse), although not all groups of the Iraqi society approve the cooperation with Iran. Sunnis and Shiites who were not influenced by Teheran are especially discontented; there are quite a lot of people in Iran who remember Hussein’s barbarous wars.
(http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/05-03-2008/104370-Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad-0)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 6, 2008 11:46 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N, some good posts.

I agree with the one which quotes Sen Levin's remark of, "I can't accept the answer that they're not capable of administering their own revenues."
I think the Iraqis definitely ARE capable, they aren't stupid.

Where is the money going? Into foreign banks.. quote, "The chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee said on Tuesday he may try to require Iraq to spend more of its oil revenue on reconstruction instead of investing the money in foreign banks."
Hmmm.. something wrong with this picture? I think so.
Astute remark, "What kind of an absurdity is it that we are paying for the reconstruction of Iraq with American taxpayers dollars if Iraqi oil sales, to a significant degree, are going into foreign banks and not being used for their own reconstruction," said Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat.

It makes you wonder if it is .. one Dinar/dollar for the bank.. one for the corrupt Iraqi officials in a siphoned off acount.. one for the bank, one for the official.. one for the bank, one for the official.. etc. Certainly, the prospering of Iraq and her people does not seem to be top priority in their minds.. reconstruction is a necessity, why not deal with the immediate needs and get increased money revenues from the extra oil revenue they would get from developing the supporting infrastructure?

I am glad for your post, Rob N, of "Top US military officer opposes Iraq withdrawal timetable - Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff says precipitous withdrawal would sacrifice ‘gains made in Iraq’."

I believe the US citizenry should act to elect someone with a sane policy who would not overthrow all the gains made in Iraq. In other words, the best candidate of the three is McCain.

As for Ahmadinejad’s visit and inflammatory rhetoric, I think he is just poking the tiger in the eye with a stick... trying to provoke a response. He sure likes infaming the situation instead of paving the way for peace. I agree with Lt. Gen Odierno who said the reason for demanding the US to leave is to weaken Iraq for the benefit of Iran. He said, quote, "I think this is about keeping in my opinion a weak government in Iraq, and I think Iran benefits from that."

Article below:

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Odierno: Iran Supporting Iraq Militias
By ROBERT BURNS / AP
March 4, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Iran is still training, funding and arming insurgents in Iraq, the former No. 2 U.S. military commander in Iraq said Tuesday.

Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno told reporters at a Pentagon news conference that Iran must be more helpful to its neighbor and stop supporting surrogate militias that are attempting to destabilize the central government.

And, he said it's not surprising that there were fewer attacks during Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent two-day visit to Baghdad, since it is mainly Iranian-backed Shiite military members who have been conducting rocket and other attacks in the capital.

"We have no doubt they are still supporting insurgents," Odierno said. Asked if that was the greatest threat to stability in Iraq, he said, "If you ask me what I worry about most, I do worry about that as a long-term threat. And I think we have to, you know, constantly watch it."

More broadly, Odierno said he is encouraged at prospects for further progress toward stabilizing Iraq even as the United States reduces its troop levels over the next several months. He said the al-Qaida in Iraq network _ which he said in mainly led by foreign fighters _ is on the run but still a threat.

Odierno, who finished a 15-month tour as day-to-day commander in Iraq in mid-February, said the U.S. military needs to "keep constant pressure on these surrogate networks" that Iran is backing in Iraq and keep talking about them so that people don't forget what Iran is doing.

"They have a huge role to play in Iraq as helpful partners in the Middle East and to the Iraqi government," said Odierno. "What they have to stop doing is training surrogates, funding surrogates and supplying weapons to them _ which they are still doing today."

He added that he has no hard evidence to back the reports that Iran is funding al-Qaida in Iraq.

Odierno's comments came as Ahmadinejad wrapped up his visit to Iraq, saying that U.S. power is crippling the region, and emphasizing Iran's growing role as a partner to Iraq. But military officials are more suspicious of Iran's intentions.

"I think this is about keeping in my opinion a weak government in Iraq, and I think Iran benefits from that," Odierno told a Pentagon press conference.

Odierno has been nominated for promotion to four-star rank and assignment as vice chief of staff of the Army. He is currently commander of the Army's 3rd Corps, based at Fort Hood, Texas.

Odierno spoke hopefully of an apparent change of direction by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army, which has posed some of the biggest challenges to U.S. efforts to stabilize the country.

"I think he's trying to move them away from a militia-based organization to one that is more _ as it started out to be _ helping the poor Shiite community have a role and a vote in what goes on in the government of Iraq," Odierno said. "I think I see him trying to move toward that."

He said this is encouraging in the sense that the majority of the Mahdi Army is "becoming more reconcilable" with the central government and its efforts to develop a Sunni-Shiite power sharing arrangement.

Rogue elements of the Mahdi Army are being supported by Iran and are now splitting off from al-Sadr's main movement, the general said. "That's actually helpful for us because we now understand who's doing what."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/04/AR2008030400985.html

-- March 6, 2008 3:45 PM


Sara wrote:

Despite the Hype, Ahmadinejad’s Iraq Visit a Failure
Wednesday, March 05, 2008
By Alireza Jafarzadeh

Behind the orchestrated pomp and pageantry during the visit to Baghdad last weekend by the Iranian ayatollahs’ president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, it was hard to miss the revulsion of Iraqis of all stripes. Adjectives like “historic” could not disguise the frustrating reality for Ahmadinejad and the ayatollahs: outside of Iraqi political spheres dominated by Tehran surrogates, they are seen as enemies of a secure, non-sectarian and democratic Iraq.

The greeting parties, in the Baghdad airport and later in various government buildings, were who's who of Tehran’s proxies in Iraq’s government. They “listened to Ahmadinejad,” according to McClatchy News Service, “without need of translation into Arabic, clearly comfortable hearing his Farsi.” Not surprising; for more than two decades, they were employed by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, the Qods Force, and the Ministry of Intelligence. Learning Farsi was a job requirement.

Outside of the very limited segment of Baghdad where Ahmadinejad visited, there was outrage. A young Baghdad resident told the New York Times, “I think Ahmadinejad is the most criminal and bloody person in the world. This visit degrades Iraq’s dignity.” Up north in Kirkuk, where Arab tribes and political parties rallied against Ahmadinejad’s visit, a tribal leader told the Times, “How can we tolerate this? Today we live under the regime of the clerics. The Iranian revolution has been exported to Iraq.” An Iraqi businessman added, “His visit is intended to reassure his followers here,” but is “provoking and enraging” the rest of Iraq.

In the streets of Baghdad and other cities, the slogans on the walls and banners at protest rallies were as telling. Graffiti in Al Habibia neighborhood near Sadr city called Ahmadinejad “a champion of Islamic nuclear bomb who will defeat Israel,” but in other neighborhoods, like Al Saydia, Al Adel and Al Ghzalia, writing on the walls denounced Ahmadinejad as “a godfather of sectarian violence that divides Iraq.”

“Your mortars preceded your visit," one placard read. Another read, “We condemn visit of terrorist and butcher Ahmadinejad to Iraq," according to the Associated Press. “We have seen today a visit by [a president] of a state with hands tarnished by the blood of innocent people in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine,” the leader of the Iraqi Kirkuk Front declared during a protest rally.

The outrage was widespread among independent Iraqi political figures of various backgrounds. Abdul-Karim al-Samaraie, a lawmaker with the Iraqi Accordance Front, told Al-Jazeera TV that "We wish that there would be a commitment from the Iranian president personally to cease all kind of interventions in Iraq's security and political affairs." Muhammad al-Daini, a member of the Iraqi National Assembly denounced Ahmadinejad’s visit in an interview with the Al-Hurra TV channel, and called for the shutdown of the Iranian regime’s diplomatic offices in Iraq.

Significantly, in a joint statement, over 130 Iraqi tribal leaders from the Shiite-dominated provinces of southern Iraq also denounced Ahmadinejad’s visit. “Since five years ago Iraq has turned into the scene of the Iranian regime’s meddling and aggression. Everyday hundreds of Iraqis are victims of the Iranian exported terrorism. In southern Iraq we are witnessing the murder of our children and ransack of our oil and other national wealth by the criminal elements of the Iranian regime,” the statement said. In late 2007, more than 300,000 Shiite Iraqis, including hundreds of tribal leaders from the southern provinces, signed a petition condemning the Iranian regime’s meddling in Iraq and supporting the presence of the main Iranian opposition group, the People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran (PMOI/MEK), in Iraq.

Ahmadinejad’s trip was a dismal failure on other levels, as well. Lost in the headlines was the news that he was shunned by the leader he most sought after. The meeting Ahmadinejad desperately coveted was not with Iraqi President Jalal Talebani or Iraq’s Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki. They are regular visitors to Tehran. Ahmadinejad and his team, for a variety of domestic and foreign policy considerations, sought a photo-op with Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq’s most influential Shiite cleric. Ayatollah Sistani, citing “scheduling conflicts,” snubbed Ahmadinejad, who had to cancel his trip to Najaf and cut short his Iraq visit by one day, according to the Iraqi TV channel, al-Sharquiyah.

Back in Washington, lawmakers on both sides of the isle were briefed by top U.S. military commanders about Tehran’s rising efforts to train, arm, and support militant sectarian forces in Iraq. The US legislators deplored Ahmadinejad’s talk about security and stability as the height of hypocrisy.

Lieutenant General Raymond Odierno, the former number two U.S. commander in Iraq, told reporters that "What they [Tehran] ought to stop doing is training surrogates, funding surrogates and supplying weapons to them, which they are still doing today.”

Mocking Ahmadinejad’s boast that he could visit Iraq openly, unlike other foreign leaders who made unannounced visits, Gen. Odierno said “I'm not surprised. Because over the last 12 months whenever a visitor would come from the United States, we needed to foil a rocket attack. Guess what? That is because it was being done by an Iranian surrogate."

"I think it's offensive," said Sen. Carl Levin, (D-Mich.), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, of Ahmadinejad's trip. Sen. John Warner, the committee's Ranking Republican from Virginia, said, "I would hope that others in the administration would express their indignation about this visit and the comments made by that president because they go to the very heart of the enormity of the sacrifices of life and limb that we have suffered in trying to provide Iraq the ability to become a strong and sovereign nation."

With the hype of Ahmadinejad’s trip behind us, it is back to reality. The tyrant ayatollahs continue to step up their support for their terrorist network in Iraq. Meanwhile, they will try to showcase their surrogates in Iraq’s government to hide their growing isolation in the streets of Iran and Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335388,00.html

-- March 6, 2008 9:23 PM


Roger wrote:

Rob N,

The funds have to be shipped twice, US to Germany to Iraq, so from the time it is shipped, give it a couple of days, you will get confirmation, within days of the completed transaction.

For me it took longer, but I had to deal with some computer problems on my end. I have only shipped ONCE, when I sent my whole investment over there, but Steve, that is on this blog on occasion, have done it more often, and by now he is getting it done in a day or so.

That is a bit of a difference though, because he have his account set up already.

Once you get your account , and have it funded, you will be sent a temporary code, plus you need to download the e-bank book. The manual in how to deal with your account over the Internet. You can do that now, in the meanwhile as you are doing all this.

Change the code to something only you know.

Once you have all the codes, you really don't need a confirmation, you can go in on your own account, and see for yourself if the funds have arrived or not, but as I say, that statement holds true only AFTER you have set up your account.

-- March 7, 2008 12:16 AM


Roger wrote:

RobN,

Another piece of info that you have to take into consideration.

Very few Iraq's are Computer literate, very few are schooled in economics, and finances. Banks are having a hard time getting qualified persons for simple things as teller duty.

On occasion the electricity goes down, on occasion the computer system goes down, on occasion they have another holiday, and nothing gets done.

The work hours are very long, and they are trying very very hard to be in world class, but you will see that occasionally it is not so, you must have patience with them. Some of them have continuous murder threats hanging over them, and when they commute back and forth from home and work, it is not a time to relax.

You must understand, that sometimes an e-mail may just get lost, (when the computers goes blank at one of their power outages) , mine have in a few occasions, also e-mail from them to you might also get lost.

I was once waiting for a reply on one transaction, and had to remind them to get to it, it showed up that they had in fact sent me a response pretty quick (I got the copy) but it was lost en route to me.

So see this as something that on occasion will take some time, it is not a bank system that have all the western stability in it just yet.

They're working on it, but I just wanted to give you this, so you don't go overboard if things doesn't always go like clockwork.

-- March 7, 2008 12:29 AM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

The last article was a very interesting one, it gives me hope that it is not what the Iranians want us to believe it is.

The Grand Ayatolla al.Sistani didn't want to mingle with the Iranian President.

130 Tribal leaders (Shiite) also denounced his visit.

It's going to be ok at the end.

When the Iran/US/Israel conflict will spark off, the Iraqis will not line up behind Iran.

As much as I hate to say it, I think it is better to have that war now than later. We have debated the rationale back and forth here, and this is one of the situations where an early conflict is better than a later one. The later the more devastating.

-- March 7, 2008 12:57 AM


Sara wrote:

Well, Roger, I think you may get your wish.
As I said, I believe the US will be FORCED to war against its will.. and it may be soon.
I was reading about an assessment of the MI6 concerning the NIE, and they say
QUOTE:

"MI6 chief John Scarlett and Mossad leader Meir Dagan believe the U.S. report not only has undermined efforts to impose tough new sanctions on Iran but, ironically, makes a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities more likely.

I believe this Intelligence service has it right.

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UK says Iran hoodwinked U.S.
But asserts intel report makes American attack more likely
January 16, 2008

The head of Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, has expressed "grave doubts" that Iran has mothballed its nuclear weapons program as reported last month in the U.S. National Intelligence Estimate, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

The U.S. report was blasted again last week by a furious President Bush on his visit to Israel. His anger was reinforced by an MI6 report supported by Israel's Mossad intelligence service.

MI6 chief John Scarlett and Mossad leader Meir Dagan believe the U.S. report not only has undermined efforts to impose tough new sanctions on Iran but, ironically, makes a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities more likely. The prospect of that attack came closer when Israel's new ambassador in London, Ron Prosor, said that Iran "will have enough uranium to make an atomic bomb by 2009." Proser is one of Israel's leading experts on Iran's nuclear program.

Mossad and MI6 agents working under deep cover in Iran concluded days before Bush began his historic Middle East trip that Iran's 10 nuclear facilities were still fully operational, producing enriched uranium and bomb casings at Natanz and the other eight nuclear facilities.

Meanwhile, Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin also reports that Countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council also apparently do not accept the findings of the most recent National Intelligence Estimate.

The growing military threat from Iran is prompting Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates quietly to make significant increases in arms purchases.

Iran's Arab neighbors remain concerned that Tehran would attack in response to a U.S. strike against its nuclear facilities.

The Gulf nations already have given notice that the U.S. cannot use their bases to launch attacks against Iran.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59699

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This somewhat older report (January), coupled with the alarming report of Iran having the new IR-2s (confirmation of Iran having those new nuclear centrifuges, operating them, and getting fissile material from them is below).. well, let's just say the US's hand appears ready to be forced in my estimation. Whether under President Bush or McCain, war will have to be waged and soon.. likely before 2009. It just isn't wise to leave it until they are nuclear capable (which the intelligence services say is 2009). So this will be an interesting period of time for the region.

Iran Confirms New Nuclear Centrifuges
Feb 24, 2008
By NASSER KARIMI/AP

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran said Sunday that it has started using new centrifuges that can churn out enriched uranium at more than double the rate of the machines that now form the backbone of the Islamic nation's nuclear program.

The announcement was the first official confirmation by Tehran after diplomats with the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog reported earlier this month that Iran was using 10 of the new IR-2 centrifuges.

"We are (now) running a new generation of centrifuges," the official IRNA news agency quoted Javad Vaidi, deputy of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, as saying. No futher details were provided.

Iran is already under two sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment. The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and Germany have agreed on a draft resolution for a third set of sanctions.

The IAEA highlighted the "new-generation centrifuges" in its latest report on Iran released Friday, but did not provide details on their operation.

Earlier this month, diplomats accredited to the IAEA told The Associated Press that 10 IR-2 centrifuges had started processing small quantities of uranium hexafluoride gas in a process that can produce fuel for a nuclear reactor or fissile material for a weapon.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Saturday the report vindicated Iran and called on the U.S. and its allies to apologize for accusing Tehran of seeking nuclear weapons. He also warned that Tehran would take unspecified "decisive reciprocal measures" against any country that imposed additional sanctions against Iran.

Most of the material shown to Iran by the IAEA in its investigation of the nation's alleged attempts to make nuclear arms came from Washington, though some was provided by U.S. allies, diplomats told The Associated Press. The agency shared it with Tehran only after the nations gave their permission.

But Soltanieh dismissed much of the material as false. In any case, he said, it came too late—three years after U.S. intelligence claimed it had material on a laptop computer smuggled out of Iran indicating that Tehran had been working on details of nuclear weapons. The data supposedly included missile trajectories and ideal altitudes for exploding warheads.

"They should have given it to us three years ago," Soltanieh said, suggesting Tehran would then have had a more substantive response.

"Iran did not need to wait for information to answer" the accusations coming from many sides that it was trying to make nuclear arms, said Gregory L. Schulte, the top U.S. delegate to the IAEA.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8V0URNO0&show_article=1

It might even mess up your plans to go over there, Roger.

Sara.

-- March 7, 2008 9:46 AM


Sara wrote:

The most likely and reasonable scenerio to my mind is that Israel, fearing for its own safety and well aware that Iran will go nuclear capable in 2009 - will feel forced to act in 2008. The US may be preoccupied with the elections and it may be the very last thing the US wants to do - but I believe the US will be forced into the conflict because if Israel acts, the US cannot stand idly by.

Sara.

-- March 7, 2008 10:01 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

If there is a war over Iran's nuclear sites, oil will go through the celling on price. However, I agree, war is coming.

Laura Parker

-- March 7, 2008 12:32 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Exclusive: Iraq builds $1bn high-tech border barrier

Iraq is about to award a $1 billion contract to build a high-tech perimeter around its border to prevent Al Qaeda terrorists entering the country.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 7, 2008 1:16 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Energy - Oil & Gas

Iraq Wants to Double Oil Production Within 2 Years

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07 March 2008 (AFX News Limited)
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Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Sharistani said Iraq intends to almost double its oil production over the next two years, to 4.5 mln barrels per day.

In an interview with Monte Carlo Dualiya, the Arabic unit of RFI, Sharistani said: "Iraq will increase its oil production by 2 mln bpd to 4.5 mln bpd within two years".

He said the goal will be reached thanks to tenders for contracts for
technical support, and said he is optimistic about the results of the first government tender. He said over 100 oil companies have responded to the first stage of the technical support plan, and the results of the first phase of the tender will be known during this month.

The Iraqi government is relying on its own funds to finance the technical support projects, but the companies chosen will be allowed to explore and operate new oilfields. The ministry said the oil extracted will not be shared.

The government then wants to increase production to 6 mln bpd for the coming 5-10 years, the ministry said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 7, 2008 1:27 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Saddam-Era $1.2B Oil Deal with China Seen Revived in April

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Iraq and China are close to wrapping up negotiations on a $1.2-billion oil contract that was originally agreed to in 1997 under Saddam Hussein's government, an Oil Ministry official said Thursday.

State-owned China National Petroleum Corp. signed the deal to develop the billion-barrel al-Ahdab oil field in the midst of U.N. sanctions that barred direct dealings with Iraq's oil industry.

Beijing was waiting for sanctions to end when the U.S. invasion in 2003 overthrew Saddam's government. The two countries restarted talks in October, 2006.

"We are expecting that the next round of discussions, due to be held in April, will finish the negotiations," the official told The Associated Press.

The official said the Iraqi government presented proposals to amend the original production-sharing contract, with the country's new oil and gas law has bogged down in parliament.

"If they (CNPC) are ready to work, then they will sign the contract," added the official who declined to discuss his ministry's proposals.

The official added that the presence of Wasit province governor, where al-Ahdab oil field is located, in last week discussion that held in Amman, Jordan, "was very important as he assured them about the protection Iraqi security forces can offer in case they want to start working."

Wasit, about 160 kilometers southeast of Baghdad, has been the scene of sporadic attacks since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 7, 2008 1:27 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Twin Baghdad Blasts Kill 68
Associated Press | March 07, 2008
A pair of attacks in central Baghdad's commercial district yesterday killed at least 68 people, a security source said, making it the second deadliest assault in Iraq this year.

The assault -- a roadside bomb followed by a suicide attack -- ripped through Al-Atar Street in the Karada neighbourhood.

In addition to the dead, 154 others were wounded, a security source from the interior ministry said on Friday, adding that among the casualties were several women and children who had gone out shopping.

Today, relatives carried the bodies of loved ones killed in the attack to be buried in Najaf, an AFP photographer said.

A number of roadside stalls had been destroyed, and windows of nearby shops and homes were broken.

Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered security forces to "chase and arrest the criminals" who committed the attack, a statement from his office said.

"He blamed the terrorists and condemned the latest barbaric crime against the civilians," the statement added.

An interior ministry official said the attack was coordinated to inflict maximum casualties and appeared to be the work of al-Qaeda in Iraq.

"First a roadside bomb went off and as people and police gathered to rescue the victims, a suicide bomber blew himself up amid the crowd," he said.

The worst attack this year was on Feb. 1, when bombings in the capital's bird market killed 100 people.

The bombings came after the U.S. military announced a reduction in troops on the back of what it claims to be a drop in violence across the country.

Yesterday, the military said some 2,000 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division, deployed in last year's surge, would not be replaced once they leave the country, likely within the next few weeks.

Once the brigade re-deploys, "the number of U.S. combat brigades in Iraq will drop from 19 to 18, with three additional brigades scheduled to redeploy by July. The unit will not be replaced," a statement said.

The redeployment "represents the increased capability and progress being made in Iraq by the Iraqi security forces to provide their own security," said said Colonel Billy Buckner, a spokesman for U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

The U.S. military currently has 158,000 troops in Iraq.

Figures collected by AFP on March 1 from the interior, defence and health ministries show that violence in Iraq surged in February after drop in each of the the six months to January.

Iraq saw 721 people killed in February, a 33 percent rise over January, when 541 people were killed. That was down from 1,856 last August.

The drop over six months was attributed to a "surge" of an extra 30,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, the formation by Sunni leaders of anti-Qaeda fronts and a ceasesfire by Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia.

Today, in another attack, a suicide bomber blew himself up near a police station in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. Four policemen were killed and 17 people wounded, including 15 policemen, police officials said.

The bomber attacked the Al-Waqhas police station in the Ras al-Jadha neighbourhood at around 7:00 a.m.

"We have received bodies of four policemen killed," doctor Ghanim Ahmed at the Mosul general hospital told AFP.

A police officer said the targeted neighbourhood housed several government offices, including one belonging to the interior ministry.

The U.S. military claims Mosul to be the last urban bastion of the Iraqi branch of al-Qaeda and is involved in a massive operation there.

It says U.S. and Iraqi forces have managed to dent the Islamist group's networks elsewhere in the country, especially in the west and the centre following which the group has focused on Mosul, the third largest city of Iraq.

On Jan. 25, Maliki said a "decisive battle" against al-Qaeda would be launched in Mosul.

Residents of Mosul, 230 miles from Baghdad, have been stocking up with supplies in anticipation of the battle, traders say.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 7, 2008 1:31 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

I believe the U.S. will covertly encourage Israel to strike Iran militarily. It is my hope, the U.S. is involved in covert actions inside the country to destablize the government.

Laura:

While high gas prices contributes to our lagging economy $3.00 + is good for Iraq.

Roger:

I will attempt to be long suffering and patient when dealing with the Iraqi banking system. I am taking your advice and will attempt to wire between $500 to a $1000 at a time.

I want my account at Al-Warka to match the amount of Dinars I hold in hard currency. The benefit going directly through the bank I will get a better exchange rate.

By the way, are we still planning a party once the Dinar either revalues or is introduced to a limited free float?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 7, 2008 1:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Exclusive: Iraq builds $1 BN high-tech border barrier
07 March 2008

Iraq is about to award a $1 billion contract to build a high-tech perimeter around its border to prevent Al Qaeda terrorists entering the country.

In an exclusive interview with Noozz, former Iraqi Minister of Communications and current Iraqi MP Mohammed Allawi revealed that Iraq is about to award a contract to foreign contractors to create a high-tech surveillance system along the country's borders to prevent intruders entering illegally.

"The first phase will involve securing the border with Syria. Ninety per cent of terrorist attacks in Iraq are by non-Iraqis and many of the terrorists come through the borders between Iraq and Syria," said Allawi.

"Technologies will include wimax [wide area wireless networks], sensors, cameras and other equipment capable of differentiating between animals, human beings and vehicles."

According to Allawi, another security contract will also be awarded for the city of Baghdad for surveillance equipment such as closed circuit TVs. The value of the Baghdad contract is estimated at between $100 million and $300 million.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080307103412

-- March 7, 2008 5:12 PM


Sara wrote:

IRAQ NEGOTIATES $1.2 BILLION OIL CONTRACT WITH CHINA

The Iraqi government is in talks to conclude a $1.2 billion oil contract with China, international media reported on March 6. China's state-owned National Petroleum Corporation signed an agreement with Saddam Hussein in 1997 to develop the Al-Ahdab field in Wasit Governorate. The original deal was valued at $700 million over 23 years, with planned production at 90,000 barrels per day. The oil field has proven reserves of 1.4 billion barrels, Wasit Governor Latif al-Turfa has said. "The Wasit Governorate has given the Chinese side assurances and guarantees to provide the necessary security and removing any hurdles on the path of Chinese operations in the governorate," al-Turfa, who is a member of the Iraqi negotiating team, told "Al-Zaman." He added that tribal leaders have said they will guarantee the protection of the Chinese firms and their equipment. "Al-Zaman" reported that the new agreement calls for the production of more than 100,000 barrels per day over a period of at least 22 years. China will receive a share of that output under the agreement. An Iraqi Oil Ministry official told AP on March 6 that the final round of talks with China for the development of the field will be held in April. KR

IRAQI GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS CABINET RESHUFFLE

The Political Council for National Security convened in Baghdad on March 6 to consider the possibility of a cabinet reshuffle, Iraqi media reported. The meeting, chaired by Jalal Talabani, focused on the need to engage a broad spectrum of leaders in order to build a technocratic and politically diverse cabinet, Al-Iraqiyah television reported. According to Al-Sharqiyah television, the discussion centered on whether to make minor changes to the cabinet or totally reshuffle it. Several ministers have been deemed ineffective because they were allegedly appointed on the basis of sectarian interests rather than their skills. The council also reportedly discussed the negotiations with the United States over a long-term security agreement. KR

http://www.rferl.org/newsline/2008/03/6-swa/swa-070308.asp

-- March 7, 2008 5:16 PM


Sara wrote:

S.C. congressman reports on progress in Iraq, Afghanistan
By RICHARD WHITING/Executive news editor
Friday, March 7, 2008

He’s happy to be back home in South Carolina, but after a nearly weeklong tour of Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett is even more strongly convinced that the U.S. military presence in those countries is essential to their well-being -- and to the security of the United States.

The congressman, whose Third District includes Greenwood County, made his second trip to Iraq and first tour of parts of Afghanistan since taking office. He and five other congressmen visited the countries, arriving last Thursday and returning to the U.S. on Tuesday. He was joined by South Carolina’s U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson.

“Just flying in, I saw a marked difference,” Barrett said of Iraq, in reference to his last trip two years ago. “Streets were clear, a lot of destruction had been cleared up.”

Despite the war’s progress Barrett says he’s seen, the congressman is emphatic in his declaration that the U.S. must remain in Iraq, for the good of the Iraqis and U.S. citizens.

“Are we winning? I can tell you this, without equivocation, we are winning,” Barrett said of the war.

Barrett said he encountered Iraqis who are concerned about the upcoming presidential election in the U.S. “They know about as much about this presidential race as I do. There is a lot of angst,” he said.

He said Iraqis he talked with think the rug will be pulled out from under them if either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama wins in November. Iraqis have a “feeling of urgency” in moving forward in a more rapid pace, he said, because they fear they can and will lose support under either candidate’s presidency.

The congressman wouldn’t even venture a guess about how long the U.S. should stay; however, he thinks the U.S. presence in the region can and will help ensure the United States is not at war on its own soil.

Iraq, Barrett said, is sitting on anywhere from 1.3 to 3 trillion barrels of oil. If “religious radicals” are in charge of that, he said, the U.S. is in trouble because power -- and with it the ability to buy weaponry -- falls into the wrong hands.

“They hire the thugs, the murderers to run the country,” Barrett said. “The bad guys believe we are infidels. They gain power, strength (hundreds of billions of dollars), and there’s nothing they can’t do, nothing they can’t buy. These zealots want nothing but death and destruction for the U.S. We can’t just quit now.”

It will take two things to turn Iraq around, Barrett said. They are the passage of a hydrocarbon law, which gives foreign entities contract protection and rule-of-law protection, and a free market. The hydrocarbon law, Barrett said, will allow Shell and other oil companies to come in, and with them comes an improved electrical power system for the country, as well as improved ports.

“Private enterprise and a free market will turn Iraq around,” he said.

If the U.S. were to quit its efforts in Iraq now, Barrett said, “Iraq goes back to the way it was and the world is a much different place, especially the threat to the U.S. We’re taking the fight to them and I’d rather do it over there than over here.”

http://www.indexjournal.com/articles/2008/03/07/news/news03.txt

-- March 7, 2008 5:26 PM


Sara wrote:

US Military to Withdraw 2,000 Soldiers from Iraq

The US military announced on the 6th March that 2,000 soldiers are to be pulled out of Iraq, within a wider reduction of the US armed forces presence there.

The 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division formed part of the President Bush-ordered troop surge that arrived in Iraq last year.

Speaking to news agency Reuters, Lieutenant Colonel Steve Stover confirmed their departure.

"I can state that (they) are leaving”, he said, adding: “...there is no replacement brigade combat team coming in."

60% Reduction in Iraqi Violence Since US Troop Surge

In the time since the troop surge – totalling 30,000 soldiers – reached full deployment in Iraq, violence there has become 60 per cent less frequent. Such a marked drop led to General Patraeus’ announcement that five brigades would be withdrawn by July this year.

November 2007 saw the departure of the initial brigade to be pulled out of Iraq under Patraeus’ directive.

No replacement was sent to plug the gap left.

http://www.armedforces-int.com/news/2008/03/06/us-military-to-withdraw-2000-soldiers-from-iraq.asp

-- March 7, 2008 5:31 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq preparing to handle Baghdad security

BAGHDAD, March 6 (UPI) -- Iraq will take over security duties in Baghdad at the end of 2008, Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Khalaf, the interior operations chief, confirmed Thursday.

Gen. Kevin Bergner, a coalition spokesman, said the multi-national forces would assume a backup role in the Iraqi capital at that time.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/134944

-- March 7, 2008 5:33 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Rob N and Laura, for your comments on Iran and Iraq. We will have to see. I found it interesting the Congressman's statement that the Iraqis are fearful of Obama or Clinton becoming President. Obviously they realize that it would be a losing situation for Iraqis if the Democrat ticket were to get in. I just hope Americans are able to discern the same way.. but compassion for the Democrats appears to mean only removing themselves from harm's way, not helping others who are in harm's way. In another part of that interview it says,
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In a more humorous moment, Barrett shared another story as further proof that the U.S. is on the right course in Iraq. He might well have been in camel country, but the non-smoker congressman willingly lit up a Marlboro Light offered to him by an Iraqi sheik.

“Talk about a life moment. I’m standing in the street talking to Iraqis, talking to a sheik who had his full regalia on,” he said. “He spent 13 years in a prison camp in Iran.” The only reason the sheik survived is “he ate what they feed the sheep.”

The sheik offered a Marlboro cigarette to Barrett, which he took and smoked with the sheik.

“Here’s a guy that was befriending me, a U.S. congressman, befriending the Iraqi policemen, U.S. Marines. If we leave these people in the lurch, I’ll guarantee you al-Qaida will come back and cut his head off and kill his family,” Barrett said. “He has everything to lose.”

(end quote)

Facing certain death, the Iraqis are fighting for their lives and homes.. I hope America will give them a chance to win the ability to live. Kudos again to the military for the fight which protects the Iraqis and their home. They are the truly compassionate and caring ones, not the MSM and their vaunted peaceniks who would leave the Iraqi people and their homeland in the lurch.

Sara.

-- March 7, 2008 5:49 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I have mixed feelings about how the Iraqi's feel about Americans. I can't imagine that the Sunni's have great favorable feelings for us. After all, our military did destroy Iraqi military men and these men are part of many families. I see the Sunni tribes needing us to help them with terrorists and technology--but I do not see them openly welcoming americans.

The Kurds seem to like americans. However, the too may not like american's for long due to what looks like the american military support of Turkey against the PKK. I believe there is a connection with the president of the Kurds and the PKK due to Kirkuk issue. The PKK was known to be evicting everyone who is not a Kurd to get power over the oil in that region. This still continues to be an issue for them.

To the south, Shiiti's may or may not be friendly to americans. It is a mixed bag of how american's are seen. We are dealing with militia's, criminal gangs, Iranians taking over oil-- that is on Iraqi land, and Shiiti religion concerns. I see an Iraq nation in a great deal of pain due to this war and I hope we american's and anyone else helping the military (contractors) use wisdom in dealing with the Iraqi's. A lot of healing needs to be done to their people. It's not going to be easy.

I saw an interview with an Iranian college student recently. I thought it interesting. The quote was "We (meaning Iranians) do not know how to talk to americans. We want to, but we do not know what to say." There was a sort of hope in this college student to open a dialogue but a sense of not knowing how. I say all of this--to acknowledge how difficult it is going to be to have influence in that region with both of these countries due to war.

Laura Parker

-- March 8, 2008 9:54 AM


Sara wrote:

An off topic post.. about the Supernatural which has been in the news lately.. asking and giving a beginning answer to the question..

How do you tell when someone is really hearing from God (IE Moses) or is just psycho?

I was watching a "supposedly" kids movie called "Millions", rated PG. It is a psycho movie and not for kids (should be rated R). The main character keeps on seeing and talking to dead Roman Catholic saints - hallucinations where a nun smokes and says you can do whatever you wish in heaven (including smoke - sin?) - and another shakes the boy's hand and leaves blood on his hand "Oops, sorry, I was martyred, decapitated, you know" he says and points to his sew marks on his neck. It even bashes Jesus with a "Peter" appearing and explaining that one of the miracles Jesus did was just a farce and not a real miracle. At the end he sees his dead mother and gives her a hug (how touching?). It is more like a light "horror" (not played for laughs like "The Munsters", but serious psychosis) rather than being a fun family type movie or spiritual. I don't recommend it. Definitely psycho, and anti-Biblical (smoking nun, denial of Jesus' miracle), the boy sees dead people, but never any Jesus. It is, therefore, not really a movie about God, and if some Catholics really believe this kind of thing (I hear some pray to these dead people/saints, but I don't really know, not being one - none of the Catholics I have met have been all that religious) it does not bode well for solid mental processes.

Recently, a "scientist" in Israel who says he cannot accept that people ever talked to God stated that he thinks Moses and the Israelites were high on psychedelic drugs - this is his explanation for the "Burning Bush" Moses saw. The key in that was his "a priori" rejection of the possibility that Moses ever COULD talk to God. (An "a priori" assumption is a judgement a person makes, "not based on prior study or examination; nonanalytic: an a priori judgment" from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/a%20priori ) In this case, this "researcher" started with the assumption of atheism, which immediately excludes the supernatural explanation of a very real God. The author of the study said, "As far as Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effects of narcotics." (From http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4392361&page=1 - "Moses Was High on Drugs, Israeli Researcher Says")

This is hardly an objective or scientific viewpoint if he cannot even allow the possibility of belief but excludes it from the start. His viewpoint therefore is, "not based on prior study or examination; nonanalytic: an a priori judgment". In science, you start with a hypothesis (What if there is a God, and He did communicate to mankind?) then try to objectively see if there is evidence to support the theory, rejecting those possibilities which have no evidence for them. In his case, he began with "I don't believe that" and then went from there, EXCLUDING the supernatural as a possibility before he began any "investigation". The fact he ends up looking around for drugs which they could have taken and (without empirical evidence) concludes that this must be what they ate.. is highly suspicious as "science". (He says, "two naturally existing plants in the Sinai Peninsula have psychoactive components" and concludes that this must be what they ate. I bet you have some "psychoactive component plants" available near you in your area, too.. maybe even drug dealers nearby.. the availability of it near you then proves you smoke or eat drugs, too.. right?) Proving availability of cocaine, LSD or other drugs is not the same as proving people are taking them. Though it would appear to be one "rational" conclusion to someone who has rejected the supernatural as a cause as a first assumption, without empirical evidence.

The difference between people who are high on drugs or truly psychotic and a person who hears from the true spiritual realm (God or the bad guys) is this.. whether what they see and hear is real or not. It should be proven empirically before you accept it as real. And even if it is proven empirically, that does not mean you think it is a good thing and accept it as "Truth". For instance, I read recently an article about a haunted house. (Oh sure, I thought.. same as you.) But the officers say they don't have another explanation, and I was hard pressed to make another diagnosis, myself. What would you say if you were one of these officers?
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Police blame ghosts for damage

Romanian cops have closed a vandalism investigation that left local houses in ruins by concluding ghosts were to blame.Families living in Lilieci reported windows broken, bicycles flying through the air, objects moving on tables and candles blown out when there is no wind. When they complained they were being hounded by evil spirits to police they were laughed at.

But after officers saw the evidence with their own eyes they filed a report saying that ghosts were to blame.

Mircea Hadimbu, 68, who says his house has now been completely wrecked, said: "The windows started to break one by one. I saw two bicycles moving through the air on their own." His sister Melentina Bocancea, 78, who lives nearby, added: "There were cups flying around the house and candles I lit were blown out as soon as I put a match to them even though there was not a breath of wind in the house."

A police spokesman said: "There were bottles and things flying around. I did not know what to dodge first. We can find nothing to suggest it was anything other than what the people claim."

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2746168.html

===

OK, these officers thought this was nuts and laughed at it, but when they got there and there were things flying around, they concluded by the evidence that maybe they were indeed dealing with something more than a couple of lunatics. From the hard evidence they concluded, "We can find nothing to suggest it was anything other than what the people claim." So where does this leave you? With saying a supernatural event has happened which at this point defies another explanation. To exclude the supernatural as a possibility (maybe say the officers and people were all high on drugs because they are available downtown and that MUST be the explanation) just because you don't WANT the supernatural to be the explanation is hardly indicative of a truly scientific and objective inquiry based on the empirical evidence.

So... what if there are real supernatural phenomena which defy naturalistic explanation? Is it right to reject them as ever being from the supernatural realm and thereby call people such as these officers and all the people involved "nuts"? Again I ask you.. if 80 percent of the people on planet earth believe God exists.. can someone exclude the possibility of it being true just because they don't like it - because, as this "researcher" said, they just "don't believe" it could be so? Is it ok to call 80 percent of the human population "nuts" when there is empirical data to support their assertions as proof? Is it fine for this "researcher" to call those MILLIONS of people who believe the words of Moses to be supernaturally from God.. people who are following those who spoke from a state of drug-induced stupor?

If some say they heard from the supernatural or God, then you examine it as these police did and see if it seems supernatural.. and if it is (like the above) that does not mean you have to de facto accept it. In that case, you have to decide if it is wise to embrace the phenomena just because it empirically true. If these folks can have things fly around their home by not natural means (flying objects is not a blessing, I think you will agree), you can bet your bottom dollar there are other supernatural events which are equally not "good" in origin or affect. There is good and bad in the spirit realm, and you would then need to use your discernment as to whether you should embrace the event under scrutiny as good or not. This applies to the persons claiming to speak from contact with that realm. Of course, in the case of the supernatural words which came from the pen of Moses, those were supernatural events which one can discern should be embraced as good and truth. (The wisdom of such commands as "You shall not steal, murder or covet" is self-evident.) Other revelational events and words (such as someone saying they heard "kill all the infidels" given to them from the spiritual realm) may not pass the bar of your discernment and scrutiny concerning which spiritual events to embrace - even if you agree that the person speaking the words was hearing something from the spirit-realm, or was a "nail".

So if you can accept the empirical data and not reject it by "a priori" assumption.. if you can see the event as real (though supernatural in origin)... discernment about which supernatural events to embrace and which to reject as supernaturally real but not worth pursuing or getting involved with (likely from the bad side) is necessary. But if people reject ALL supernatural phenomena, they are hardly going to be honing such discernment skills about which events to embrace and which to reject, now, are they? Those who reject it out of hand definitely have no discernment at all about it.. and it does stand to logic that those people without any spiritual discernment are the ones most easily deceived and led by the bad side (if there is one), right? Surely it stands to reason that if you are not looking for supernatural deception (because you are sure the supernatural does not even exist - it is all drug induced hallucinations and you don't take drugs so you won't be deceived), you can fall for supernatural deceptions much easier than those who are discerning and looking for them. As an illustration.. during the Vietnam War.. if a person were walking in a jungle in Vietnam and believed there were traps and Vietcong around, and another person thought that was a figment of imagination due to drugs.. which is more likely to be discerning about possible traps? Which looks paranoid? Which one is most likely to discern the traps which are there? And.. which is the most likely to survive through traps, attacks, etc? All I am saying is, spiritual discernment might be a worthwhile survival life-skill to develop, rather than denying the empirical evidence having any validity and seeking other naturalistic explanations.

Sara.

-- March 8, 2008 12:59 PM


Sara wrote:

Sadr takes break from politics, cites failures
By Liz Sly | TRIBUNE CORRESPONDENT
March 8, 2008

BAGHDAD - Iraq's elusive Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr has decided to drop out of politics for the time being because his disillusionment with the political scene in Iraq has left him sick and anxious, he said in an unusually personal letter to his followers released Friday.

In a written response to a query from a group of followers asking why he hadn't been seen in public for so long, Sadr said he had decided to devote himself to a period of study, reflection and prayer after failing in his core mission to rid Iraq of the U.S. occupation or to turn it into an Islamic society.

He also cited the betrayal of some followers, whom he accused of falling prey to "materialistic" politics.

"So far I did not succeed either to liberate Iraq or make it an Islamic society -- whether because of my own inability or the inability of society, only God knows," Sadr wrote.

"The continued presence of the occupiers, on the one hand, and the disobedience of many on the other, pushed me to isolate myself in protest. I gave society a big proportion of my life. Even my body became weaker, I got more sicknesses."

Speculation has been intensifying as to the whereabouts of the maverick cleric, whose Mahdi Army militia twice fought U.S. troops in 2004 and then was accused of many of the sectarian killings of Sunnis that pushed Iraq to the brink of civil war.

His last public statement came two weeks ago, when he renewed the six-month cease-fire that has been credited with helping bring down the levels of violence in Iraq.

But he has not been seen in public since May. Sadrist officials said in January that he was studying to become an ayatollah in the holy city of Najaf, a position that would give the 30-something leader greater religious authority over the movement he inherited from his slain father. The U.S. military and some Iraqi officials say he is living in the Iranian city of Qom.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-iraq-sadr_sly_08mar08,1,6821825.story

-- March 8, 2008 1:24 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

I recieved my email from Mr. I today regarding my Dollar/Dinar account. Do you know whether since I do not currently have a scanner is it possible to fax a copy of ID and signature to Mr. I? Thanks for your help.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 8, 2008 9:39 PM


Roger wrote:

RobN,

A scanner is between 60 and 80 bucks, if you go for a cheapy,(and they hold up for almost a whole full month) and you should invest in one.

I have actually never faxed them anything, but they have fax numbers so by all means, it's just another way of communicating.

If you are not going stocks you may get away with a fax on occasion, but if you are into stocks it is pretty much a back and forth thing.

You send them a pick list, with your signature on,(must write it, print it, sign it, scan it, attach it to an e-mail and send it) they buy the stocks, and send you what you got, (print it, and put it in your folder)

About your idea to send 500 bucks at a time, naaa, that will cost you as you go, better send the whole amount at once, then it is one cost only. Money that is wired is protected. That is the whole idea over FedEx.

Once the money is sent, your funds will only exist electronically. (Isn't that a bummer, once you had these beautiful pieces of documents, all this Dinar Bills, and now you're only getting electrons.), So I see no advantage by sending over and over again a smaller sum. They charge you the same every time, and if you have electrons floating around once why should you have them floating around twice?

-- March 9, 2008 7:28 AM


Roger wrote:

RobN,

Uh....just re-read you earlier posting, hat you will take my advice and send small portions at a time.

I might getting old, or have a slight attack of old timers disease, or just draw a blank.

Have I advised you in the past to send smaller sums only when you are wiring money via the bank system?

Can't recall that, did I?

Are you sure you didn't mix that up with something that has to do with stashing the mula in an envelop and do a FedEx deal?

That, I would advice to send in smaller portions.

-- March 9, 2008 7:39 AM


Roger wrote:

Supernatural stuff.

Just because our forefathers couldn't control electricity or earlier, fire, that didn't mean that they didn't come in contact with it.

A thunder and a flash, and it ignited a tree.

They got so scared of the now burning forest that they took shelter in a river, and got zapped by an electric eel.

Many native Americans fled when they heard and saw that hissing and puffing beast go across the prairie on rails.

The first balloon trip made by Montgolfier in France ended up with their balloon being completely destroyed by panic stricken people that had to rip this devilish thing apart so it couldn't come and attack them.

Things that fit in in a persons universe is understood.

Much of the early colonies was won because it didn't fit in in the universe that a man could kill another man by pointing a stick on him, and let the stick thunder.

Spiritual things have scared man, because we have been geared to understand how a screw and a bolt goes together, rather than understand how man works. Man thinks he is a meatball, that is 100% effect of genes and upbringing.

So dear friends on this blog, I really don't have to talk to all of you, because I am not really talking to you, I am talking to your genes, and your recorded experience.

Rubbish, you are all a unit of awareness, and that is spirit.

You can't measure it with material means, meters, time, gallons, or Ampere. So mankind have not find a way to put a meter on you, so it will stay unknown.

So a guy that maybe had a funeral he didn't like, or his will was not full filled got mad, and started to toss things around. Well he better get over it, and move on, and the people that didn't do his funeral the way he had it planned should make up, and follow his last will. He seems to hang around and keeping an eye on things. He's not ready to go anywhere and this guy that was trashing the Romanian place.

That's a reality that I am describing, for another person this may be hogwash.

It is true if it is true to you.

Psychotic person, that is another ballgame.

Usually a psychotic person have had a very deep trauma, in where another person have completely overwhelmed his own personality, and decided that it is better to be that person than being himself.

Somewhere along the line he decided that my person, the way I am and the way I think is a loser, but the aunt that is whipping his ass everyday for the smallest infraction he is doing, is a winner, -"If I can be like her, I would not have to be what I am". -"Being what I am makes me soar everywhere, and I cant do anything right anyway (according to my aunt) so my goal in life is to be what my aunt is". -"That will take me out of this, and I want so much to get out of this, I must get out of this."

So now this person goes around and acts, like the aunt that was abusing him in his past, in fact, his whole personality now IS the aunt.

That is psychotic.

That has nothing to do with a reality that does not conform with someone else reality( well except perhaps that this person now have no reality of his own, it is seen all through his aunts eyes, that he is now wearing)

Any experience is something that is perceived, and as we had a debate some time back.....did I tell you that I actually saw a duck sitting in a tree.

I did, I actually saw it sitting on that tree limb.

You don't believe me, .....well, I don't give a rats ass.

Sara, if you talk with God, and I say I don't believe you, you answer would accordingly be : -".............."

Stay true to your own observation, stay true to your reality. It may not be in agreement with everyone, but then again, rats have asses.

Atta girl....

AlSadr,

A dweeb, complete wacko, with a staff around him that is holding his hand for every step he is doing, a man that is used by any and all, and this poor boy doesn't have a clue what or who is using him.

The public appearances he has made have been embarrassing exposure of him. He doesn't get anything right, and have trouble getting a conceptual understanding of the simplest challenges. It's almost to the point where up and down is a problem for him.

So to me it is pretty obvious, that this guy is getting worse, and have come to such a stage that he no longer can be used in any capacity at all.

His retreat to reflection, prayer and meditation, might actually do him good, if he is let alone in a safe and stable environment, where he is fed nutritious meals and have plenty of sleep.

-- March 9, 2008 8:36 AM


Rats Ass wrote:

Roger, leaf me outa this! I am real! gotta visit me friend duck in tree.

-- March 9, 2008 11:24 AM


Sara wrote:

Supernatural stuff.. Roger.. you are right about "primitive" man not understanding things and being afraid of the unknown. But modern man has gone to the other extreme and now thinks he knows everything and need not be afraid of anyone or anything, including God. But because God is real and has mankind truly in His hands in the fact that God has the power over human life and death.. mankind still SHOULD fear God. By that I mean as ultimate lawgiver and enforcer of the laws He has made... because God still judges mankind.

When I look at the story of the life of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, I see a man who was allowed to do a lot of very wicked things for quite a long time.. yet, not forever. And his end was a judgement from God, no matter who God used to cause it to happen. God had His will done concerning Saddam in the end. God is just much more patient and does not judge such wicked persons right away. I am sure Saddam also thought he had gotten away with the things he did.. as wicked men think so today. But there is a time of reckoning, and it is often manifest in this life, and not just in the next on Judgement Day. I note the "Lord of War" (the arms dealer) was just apprehended by the authorities.. that will be interesting to follow, too.. as his "business" has been the cause of a lot of needless death and I wonder how God will judge his case through the authorities whose care he is now under, as well as ultimately.

Sadr's goals for Iraq.. to turn it into an Islamic state.. are obviously not working. I see this disappointment for him as God saying to him and his goals "NO", because it isn't His will. Maybe some meditation and prayer will help him see that, and understand that God wishes mankind to have free exercise of their wills concerning which religious beliefs they want to hold, rather than forcing Islam on them from the state level. Separation of church and state on that governmental level.. is a God-given right He will work to uphold. Mankind should be free to choose their religious beliefs and God will uphold all people who seek to bring that freedom to the world because He does not force Himself upon anyone, yet desires mankind to freely choose His way when they can. And they do. Did you know that in 1900 there were only ONE million Christians in Africa.. and now there are Three Hundred and Thirty million (330 MILLION) Christians in Africa... ?? They are coming to Christianity (out of Islam) at the rate of SIX million people per year. When given the freedom to choose, people do choose which God they want to serve... and often that means a God who is not coercive in His methods of gaining and keeping converts. If Islam really is all that great and true a religion, they should not have anything to fear by a secular state which allows free exercise of choice in religion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59vI-HQ9GHY&feature=PlayList&p=581119794FD1A315&index=2

I agree with you that we are far more than our accumulated genes and experiences.. we are spirits and we each are as unique as snowflakes or fingerprints.. unique creations of God.

As for the poltergeist or ghost or whatever those officers encountered.. puzzling. People communicating with the dead is forbidden in the Bible, and I believe this is for our safety and protection. I think the "dead scene" is a "bad rap" and we ought to stay away from dead folks. As someone once said to me, these dead people weren't all that smart in life, why seek out dead people to help you now they are dead? And those who cannot control their tempers in life are not all that wise a set of people.. it appears to me that if it is dead people/ghosts then they are certainly those with anger issues, and so not wise to be around or seek out. The phenomena does appear to be legitimate empirically.. that is, the incidents appear to have real scientific validity. So, I suppose the only two possibilities are that such events are really dead people with intense need of anger management.. or it is demons. I don't like either possibility and what their tantrums may mean, so I steer clear of pursuing this direction of inquiry as it just does not seem a wise use of time to me.

As for your interesting diagnosis of psychosis being wanting to be someone else in order to be "acceptable".. I had not heard of that before. It seems to me that people want little carbon copies of themselves who submit to their own views - polite people who make no waves rather than those who wish to speak differing viewpoints which they truly believe. This creates a peer pressure to conform to the prevailing view and these psychotic people are seeking to be another person to fit into what they view as the prevailing wisdom. Uniqueness of view and personality are definitely not rewarded within the family of man.. mankind truly is into conformity and submission. Martin Luther King had a dream.. but he was unique and not a carbon copy of the rest of the population. Martin Luther himself was a man with a dream as well.. and he was persecuted and they attempted to kill him for it. I find it interesting that you said that trying to be someone else to be acceptable.. following the crowd and not being unique, are signs of psychosis.. in your illustration wanting to be an aunt or something.. wanting to be like someone else so that a person feels acceptable.. that seems to me to be the ultimate act of conformity. The world does indeed reward conformists. The MSM fawns over them. In the recent newsbusters comedy segment, they poked fun at the intolerance of the MSM, saying:

"ABC news recently used hidden cameras to stage incidents of Islamophobia as an attempt to portray Americans as bigoted. Hey.. ABC.. you want to film some real intolerance and hatred? Send someone wearing an "I love President Bush" T-shirt into your newsroom."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpHIE8Qo5c

Staying true to what you believe used to be called having moral fibre or backbone. Compromise and conformity, however, wins you points from the MSM.. and daily we all see the intense grovelling before that idol of media coverage - worshipping its power to "influence the ratings concerning your popularity among the American people." You have to hand it to Huckabee.. he stood by what he believed to the end while they ridiculed him for it. Such is the performance of honorable men with true conviction.

No, Roger, I wouldn't cave in to another opinion in order to gain that person's esteem. Though it isn't quite "I don't give a rat's ass", as you put it.. which is dismissive of the person whose opinion I would wish to be according to reality and truth. I believe that we must walk by the light we have been given, and within that illumination.. we cannot turn back into darkness when we have been shown the right thing to do or believe, not even to win the good opinion of others. In this area, President Bush has excelled as he has been an incredible example of a man under fire for what he believes from so many sources, yet sticks to his guns when he knows he is right. His case reminds me of Einstein's:

Shortly after Albert Einstein fled from Germany (in 1932), one hundred Nazi professors published a book (One Hundred Authors Against Einstein) condemning his theory of relativity. "If I were wrong," Einstein said in his defense, "one professor would have been enough."

"Methinks thou dost protest too much" is the saying which often comes to mind when I see so many attacks against the good works President Bush is doing. The recent attempts to open the Homeland to attack by terrorists which he has sought to fend off.. with trying to make a permanent Protect America Act (with protections for those who have helped keep America safe up until now) and then his recent veto of tying the hands of the CIA in the case of needing to get information which will allow the US to protect the homeland.. are admirable stands. It is worth noting what President Bush said, below:

Bush Explains Veto of Waterboarding Bill
DEB RIECHMANN AP
Mar 8, 2008

The bill would have limited the CIA to 19 interrogation techniques that are used by the military and spelled out in the Army Field Manual. Bush said he vetoed the measure because it is important for the CIA to have a separate and classified interrogation program for suspected terrorists who possess critical information about possible plots against the United States.

Bush, who used his weekly radio address to announce the veto, said the program had helped stop plots against a Marine camp in Djibouti and the U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, and plans to fly passenger planes into a Los Angeles tower or London's Heathrow Airport and city buildings.

"Were it not for this program, our intelligence community believes that al-Qaida and its allies would have succeeded in launching another attack against the American homeland," the president said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_TORTURE?SITE=LYCOS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Once President Bush leaves office, however, and the more "reasonable" and left-leaning McCain gets in.. measures such as these and the Patriot Act which President Bush has fought for and managed to keep in place will be revisited. And those who say that such techniques are unacceptable will likely outlaw them with McCain's help.. only to learn what it means to allow terrorism to have its way on US soil.

As for not believing such things as someone hearing from God directly concerning things.. trust me, I am not one to deny the Lord or what I know to be the truth even if it isn't all that acceptable to those who don't believe it.. I'm not like the Who in Whoville in the upcoming "Horton Hears a Who" where he says:

"Hey, hun.. did you ever get the feeling that you were being watched and that maybe that thing watching you is... ahhhh.. a giant elephant?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLRVr_Mp8T8

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/hortonhearsawho/small_tt.html

(Check out the trailer to understand what I am saying.)

Without any disrespect intended toward the Lord in comparing my hearing Him to this Who hearing Horton.. I just don't deny what I believe is true, even if others don't accept, understand or see what the heck I am on about. Come to think of it.. it was pretty wise that the Who in Whoville kept on listening to Horton, too.. as far as his little world was concerned, wasn't it?

Sara.

-- March 9, 2008 4:35 PM


Sara wrote:

I didn't think (going into Iraq) that the US expected itself to foot the bill for liberating Iraq from the tyranny of the Butcher of Baghdad and then all its subsequent reconstruction.. why should they when Iraq could do it.. if they would only revalue the Dinar.

===

Senators: Where is Iraq's oil money going?
- NEW: Senators question why Iraq isn't tapping oil billions to improve quality of life
- NEW: Iraqi officials haven't responded to claims they aren't doing "nearly enough"
- NEW: Pentagon official said in 2003 that Iraq could easily pay for its rebuilding

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two senators are asking congressional investigators to look at Iraq's oil revenues and see if the war-ravaged nation can pay for its own reconstruction, an effort that has been bankrolled to this point mostly by U.S. taxpayers.

Carl Levin, D-Michigan, and John Warner, R-Virginia, said in their Friday letter to the Government Accountability Office that Iraq has "tremendous resources" in banks worldwide but is doing little to improve security and reconstruction efforts.

Iraqi officials did not immediately respond to the senators' allegations.

"We believe that it has been overwhelmingly U.S. taxpayer money that has funded Iraq reconstruction over the last five years, despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue over that time period that have ended up in non-Iraqi banks," wrote the senators, who are their party's top members on the Armed Services Committee.

The senators cited testimony of then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who told a House subcommittee in March 2003 that the U.S. would not foot the entire bill for rebuilding Iraq. Wolfowitz predicted then that Iraq's oil revenues could reach between $50 billion and $100 billion in the next two or three years.

"We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon," Wolfowitz said in 2003.

Senators want answers

The senators want investigators to find out:

• Iraqi oil revenues for 2003-2007
• What the U.S. and Iraq spent in that time on security, reconstruction, governance and economic development
• Iraq's projected oil revenue for 2008
• How much money the Iraqi government has earned from oil but not spent
• How much the Iraqi government has deposited in banks, and in which countries
• Why Iraq hasn't spent more on services for its people

Using numbers from the U.S. State Department and Iraqi Oil Ministry, the senators said Iraq hopes to produce 2.2 million barrels of oil a day this year. Weekly averages suggest that the number has climbed as high as 2.51 million barrels a day.

That kind of oil production could earn Iraq a projected $56.4 billion this year, an estimate the senators say is low given the rising cost of crude.

"In essence, we believe that Iraq will accrue at least $100.0 billion in oil revenues in 2007 and 2008," the letter said.

It added, "Our conversations with both Iraqis and Americans during our frequent visits to Iraq, as well as official government and unofficial media reports, have convinced us that the Iraqi government is not doing nearly enough to provide essential services and improve the quality of life of its citizens."

Iraq's ability to spend its $10.1 billion capital projects budget in 2007 was one of the 18 benchmarks used to assess U.S. progress in stabilizing and rebuilding Iraq, according to the GAO.

The United States has spent more than $47 billion on Iraqi reconstruction efforts since 2003, according to the 2008 quarterly audit by the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/08/iraq.main/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail

-- March 9, 2008 5:51 PM


Al Sadr wrote:

I hav nice room. Nice doktor visit me. Pretty pikturs on wall. Amerika still evil Devil munny lover. Medikation help me sleep. Dream of 70 virgins and Britnay Speer. Nice wite jaket with long sleaves help me stay kalm. Must studie sine in room, explane wich way up. Maybee ask brothur Mo or Curly.

-- March 9, 2008 8:19 PM


Roger wrote:

Rats Ass,

I Kneeew it was real..........

AlSadr,

Katjoff, katjoff, katjoff, they're coming to take me away ha haaa, to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time....

Well another investigation of the Iraq affair.

They seem endless.

Why have Iraq not spend more on their public.

Iraq is doing money, they're doing good money, and we all know that they are in pretty decent financial shape, so why have they not spend money on their own country they ask.

Iraq don't have much, they don't have the infrastructure that most other countries have, cars maybe, cellphones maybe, but the vast majority of Iraqis are still pretty low on the food chain.

After the Invasion, the whole country was looted, and whatever was left was unbolted, so we have a skeleton with infrastructure, we still have bridges, they were unable to unbolt those, we have streets, they didn't dig up those, and we see houses, trees, and a bit more, but the power lines have no use, the water is not coming and the sour is plugged.

Ok, here we are, with a skeleton left, and now starts an insurgency.

Bombs goes off, helicopters are flying, you hear explosions and rattle of machine guns day and night, and finally they quit doing that, and have come to their senses.

So here is the Iraqi Ministry of Interior, trying to get something going, the money is there, but if you look out the window, you have cars, donkeys, and mules, people that earn less than a buck a day, and nothing established.

Now you are suppose to grab a bundle of money, grab hold of Muhammed ali Baba, and give him a huge stash of money, and point to the road, and say, we need a freeway from here to Basra, and then to be connected with Kuwait, we need bridges, we need maintenance of the freeway, we need law enforcement patrolling the freeway, and we need to get it now.

Muhammed Ali Baba, can't do that.

Iraq don't have a money problem, they don't have a liquidity problem, they have a spending problem.

There's nothing there to spend it on. You need an engineering corps, a fleet of landsurveyers, a well organized set of contractors, that have the exact resources for the job, graders, planers, asphalt trucks, cement trucks, and their supply line up and running.

So Iraq have money and are getting money, but short of tossing the money out the window, they have to carefully build up their infrastructure, get international contractors to set things up, get outside resources to come in and build it up, carefully invest with good planning their own existing industry.

Iraq will not just go to a runned down place and toss money on the table in front of the manager, and say, "here , take this, be up and ready by 7 AM tomorrow.", because that is an impossibility.

In the meanwhile what does Iraq do with their money, well they have a very big reserve by now, and as any other bank, they will probably place it where it will be cared for, and even grow in the meanwhile, so it is not uncommon to have foreign countries to transfer their money to other foreign institutions.

There is a Gold vault in the basement in one of the New York finance institutions, that will make Fort Knox a joke.

Behind bars, are different countries Gold accounts, and on occasion they are shuffled around depending on a buy or sell action.

There is almost all the world countries represented.

So here are the endless investigations with the key questions that seems to very sublime insinuate that there is corruption going on, and with no understanding of the Iraqi situation.

"We want to know how much of the money Iraq have profited from oil, is in foreign accounts"
"We want to know why Iraq have so completely failed to invest in it's own country"
"We want to know who have got kick backs in this scam"
"We want to know why is the Iraqi affair costing us"

This is a very very clever way of posing another anti war issue. It is not a direct confrontation, but in a form of investigation, with questions that seems very very legitime for a person that doesn't have a clue, but that will endlessly highlight an aspect that is a sideline, on order to give weight to a possible disaster, corruption, or other wrong doings, and then connect it with Iraq.

The end line will be....we don't want it, together with the word Iraq.

Clever guys, but not too transparent as they might wish.

-- March 10, 2008 6:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

Sorry, I guess I confused by posts. I will limit my wire transfers to the minimum. Thank you for your input.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 10, 2008 11:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Wants to Double Oil Production Within 2 Years
AFX News Limited Thursday, March 06, 2008


Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Sharistani said Iraq intends to almost double its oil production over the next two years, to 4.5 mln barrels per day.

In an interview with Monte Carlo Dualiya, the Arabic unit of RFI, Sharistani said: "Iraq will increase its oil production by 2 mln bpd to 4.5 mln bpd within two years".

He said the goal will be reached thanks to tenders for contracts for technical support, and said he is optimistic about the results of the first government tender. He said over 100 oil companies have responded to the first stage of the technical support plan, and the results of the first phase of the tender will be known during this month.

The Iraqi government is relying on its own funds to finance the technical support projects, but the companies chosen will be allowed to explore and operate new oilfields. The ministry said the oil extracted will not be shared.

The government then wants to increase production to 6 mln bpd for the coming 5-10 years, the ministry said.
(www.ringzone.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 10, 2008 11:49 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bank of Iraq Earns More than $250 Million in Jan 08

The Bank of Iraq earned more than $250m in revenues in January of this year far exceeding expectations.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 10, 2008 11:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Basra puts in place emergency measures to restore stability
By Abed Battat

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10 March 2008 (Azzaman)
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The provincial authorities in the southern city of Basra are applying new emergency measures in the wake of an upsurge in violence and lawlessness.

More than 5,000 police officers are taking part in the campaign “to pursue outlaws, armed men, smugglers, some tribal groups and illegal militias,” according to the city’s police chief, Lt. Gen. Abduljaleel Khalaf.

The restive city has recently seen a surge in murder incidence and kidnapping.

Khalaf said more reinforcements were on their way to Basra to join the latest campaign to wrest its streets from illegal gunmen.

The campaign targets what Khalaf describes as “criminals and terrorists who have carried out murder, kidnapping and smuggling and have destabilized the city.”

He said his forces would “raid, storm and barge” into residential areas in a bid “to tighten the noose on the criminals and some tribes” which he refused to name.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 10, 2008 11:58 AM


Sara wrote:

The PC police don't like Obama's middle name mentioned.. WHY?
Isn't it his name? What is wrong with that?

Well.. says congressman King..
it is because "it associates itself with the religion and with the heritage and with the struggle and with some of the violence that's over there as well" due to the fact "His middle name is the name of the grandson of Muhammad." And so it isn't just one person who was a dictator in Iraq.

So that is why the PC police don't want people to mention his middle name.
After all.. why encourage our enemies?

But wait a second..
If it encourages the enemy.. and his stand on pulling the troops does too..
why are Americans thinking of electing him?

Is it a capitulation (caving in) to terrorism by those who want America to fail in the war on terror?
Is it the politics of defeat for America which Hussein Obama champions on American soil?
After all.. the pledge of allegiance says to defend from all enemies.. foreign and domestic...
are we not to discern if anyone is giving aid and comfort and encouragement to the enemy..
because it is UN-PC to do?

Sara.

===

Lawmaker affirms terrorists want Obama White House
Won't back down after Dem front-runner's campaign presses McCain to denounce congressman's remarks
March 10, 2008

An Iowa Republican congressman refuses to back down from his assertion terrorists will celebrate if Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama is elected president.

Rep. Steve King, speaking from Washington this morning, told Radio Iowa his comments were "factually accurate" and a "reasonable" assessment of how Obama is perceived in the Middle East.

"What is discouraging to me is to hear all the allegations that came out and all the name-calling that came my way because I pointed out something that has to do with the culture of the Middle East and how it will be viewed and how a declaration for defeat as a presidential candidate will be viewed by our enemies," King said.

"They'll see it as victory and that's really the central point."

The congressman told Radio Iowa the media missed his main contention: It's Obama's promise to pull American troops out of Iraq that will be celebrated by the terrorists as an American defeat.

"They will be dancing in the streets, and they'll be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on September 11th," King said. "They will declare victory and they will use it to recruit more al-Qaida."

Radio Iowa noted King's mention of Obama's middle name, Hussein, sparked the most criticism over the weekend.

The congressman insisted he never used the name "Hussein" in Friday's interview with the Daily Reporter in Spencer, Iowa.

But King did refer to Obama's "middle name" as having different meaning for Muslims overseas, and in his radio interview this morning, he expanded on that.

"His middle name is the name of the grandson of Muhammad. It's used many, many times throughout the Muslim world and it associates itself with the religion and with the heritage and with the struggle and with some of the violence that's over there as well," King said. "And so it isn't just one person who was a dictator in Iraq, it's a thread that goes through the entire Muslim world."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58530

-- March 10, 2008 2:58 PM


Sara wrote:

Maybe this kind of "speak no evil" about Obama is the reason that Americans don't trust the media.
It says here, ‘nearly two-thirds of Americans have no faith in campaign coverage by the news media’.

===

Shocker: Americans Don’t Trust The Media
From Iran’s Press TV:

http://www.postimage.org/aVbai1J.jpg
(picture of three monkeys holding eyes, ears and mouth with CNN, MSNBC and FOX NEWS labels on them)

Poll: Americans lose faith in media
Mon, 10 Mar 2008

A new opinion poll suggests that over 54 percent of Americans do not trust mainstream media and consider news websites more reliable.

Some 41 percent said they trust the ‘Internet news and information websites’ more than the press.

The new Harris Interactive survey reflects the findings of a Harvard University study conducted last year, which found ‘nearly two-thirds of Americans have no faith in campaign coverage by the news media’.

The poll indicates that only 30 percent ‘tend to trust the press’, while 44 percent say Radio is the most trusted media in the United States.

The poll suggests that the selective media coverage of the ongoing Iraq war has caused Americans to lose faith in mainstream media.

===end quote==

Funny how little attention this poll has gotten from our own watchdog media. So little that we have to go to their fellow journalists in Iran to get the news.

Isn’t irony ironic?

(And yes, the photo of the three monkeys is from Press TV.)

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Monday, March 10th, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/shocker-americans-dont-trust-the-media

-- March 10, 2008 3:15 PM


Sara wrote:

A different political perspective on it for you to consider:

Obama-Baiting
By James Atticus Bowden
MichNews.com
Mar 6, 2008

Speaking Obama’s whole name, Barack Hussein Obama, is attacking Obama. According to Liberals. It’s a racist, anti-Muslim baiting of Obama. Because the name Barack Obama points to Africa. The name Hussein points to Islam. His name “plays on the fears of voters.” It doesn’t matter that his name is his name. Speaking the truth about Obama, even in saying Obama’s name, provides racist, anti-Muslim clues to voters. When Obama becomes the Democrat candidate, simply opposing Obama will be racist and anti-Muslim bigotry. Liberals will Obama-bait.

Get ready for the new narrative. “People oppose Obama only because he is black. Only racists oppose a black candidate. Everyone who opposes Obama is a racist.”

The first variation on the theme of Obama-baiting will be, “People use his middle name, Hussein, to associate Obama with Muslims. Only anti-Muslim bigots oppose a Muslim candidate. Everyone who opposes Obama is a religious bigot.”

Note: The MSM and Democrats will Obama-bait regardless of what anyone does or says. Once Liberals silence any criticism of Obama, starting with using his real name, they will move on the more forceful narrative – voting against Obama is racist and hateful bigotry.

The Liberal Human Secularists are the masters of speech codes, hate speech, and thought crime. They adapted Political Correctness from the Communist Human Secularists and refined it. Go to any University and many K-12 public schools and see.

Barack Hussein Obama has a lot of questions to answer. Don’t be afraid to ask them. Don’t be intimidated into not asking him - and using his full name – hard questions.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19598.shtml

-- March 10, 2008 3:42 PM


Sara wrote:

About those "hard questions"...
concerning what Hussein Obama stands for
and what he would do for the American people:

===

Obama lobbies 'gays' for edge over Hillary
Letter to 'LGBT community' affirms he'd dump Defense of Marriage Act
Posted: March 07, 2008

It's not easy to find on his campaign website, but Sen. Barack Obama has issued an open letter to the "LGBT community" assuring them he believes in "full equality" for homosexuals and stating that, unlike Sen. Hillary Clinton, he advocates the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act.

In the letter, published on a campaign blog, Obama says he's "running for president to build an America that lives up to our founding promise of equality for all – a promise that extends to our gay brothers and sisters."

Pointing out that throughout his career he's "fought to eliminate discrimination against LGBT (Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) Americans," Obama lists some of his specific accomplishments.

In the Illinois legislature, he "co-sponsored a fully inclusive bill that prohibited discrimination on the basis of both sexual orientation and gender identity, extending protection to the workplace, housing and places of public accommodation."

In the U.S. Senate, he has co-sponsored bills "that would equalize tax treatment for same-sex couples and provide benefits to domestic partners of federal employees."

As president, he says, "I will place the weight of my administration behind the enactment of the Matthew Shepard Act to outlaw hate crimes and a fully inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act to outlaw workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity."

In the run-up to the recent Texas and Ohio primaries, Obama bought full-page ads in homosexual-oriented newspapers in Columbus, Cleveland, Dallas and Houston.

The ads were the brainchild of Stampp Corbin, co-chairman of Obama's National LGBT Leadership Council, the Advocate newspaper reported. Stern told the 'gay' publication the coordinated buy was "the icing on the cake" in terms of the campaign's outreach to the homosexual community in the two states.

"It's a direct appeal to LGBT voters, asking for their support," Corbin said.

The Advocate said the Obama campaign "has actively been trying to cut into the long-standing ties between gays and lesbians and Sen. Hillary Clinton."

In his letter, Obama says he will also use the presidency's bully pulpit to "urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws."

The candidate for the White House says he would not prevent legalization of same-sex marriage.

Obama says he has opposed the Defense of Marriage Act since arriving in the Senate three years ago, and, unlike Sen. Clinton and those who say it should be partially repealed, "I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58317

-- March 10, 2008 3:55 PM


kagefensewats wrote:

rosie@triad29.com

rosieponder@verizon.net

Not only do they try to rip you off, they send your email out and you get a ton of junk mail.

-- March 10, 2008 4:02 PM


Sara wrote:

A little history lesson for you because as Barton here says:
Barton said his comments are not a condemnation or endorsement of any party or candidate, but rather a warning that voters even today should be aware of what their parties and candidates stand for.

===

KKK's 1st targets were Republicans
Dems credited with starting group that attacked both blacks, whites

The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.

An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbuilders and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.

"Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective," Barton said in his book.

"Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings."

Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said.

"Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party," Barton writes in his book. "In fact, a 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.

"Contributing to the evidences was the 1871 appearance before Congress of leading South Carolina Democrat E.W. Seibels who testified that 'they [the Ku Klux Klan] belong to the reform part [that is, to] our party, the Democratic Party,'" Barton writes.

"The Klan terrorized black Americans through murders and public floggings; relief was granted only if individuals promised not to vote for Republican tickets, and violation of this oath was punishable by death," he said. "Since the Klan targeted Republicans in general, it did not limit its violence simply to black Republicans; white Republicans were also included."

Barton also has covered the subject in one episode of his American Heritage Series of television programs, which is being broadcast now on Trinity Broadcasting Network and Cornerstone Television.

Barton said his comments are not a condemnation or endorsement of any party or candidate, but rather a warning that voters even today should be aware of what their parties and candidates stand for.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=44171

-- March 10, 2008 4:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Rep. Steve King: Vilified for Telling the Truth
By Sher Zieve
MichNews.com
Mar 10, 2008

In 2005, I wrote the article ‘Will Humans “PC” Themselves out of Existence?’ Tragically—but predictably—today the answer appears to be an unambiguous and resounding “Yes!” The purveyors and proponents of “political correctness” have now reached the apex of their inherent goal: that of—once and for all—shutting down the truth. Note: Marx and Lenin achieved this goal faster but, it’s doubtful that they could have accomplished it any better. In fact, step by step the 1963 Communist Goals for the USA have been and are continuing to be implemented daily—in the name of political correctness. The latest leftist attacks relate to telling the truth about candidates for the presidency of the United States—and one candidate in particular.

I am, of course, referring to the firestorm created by the media over a statement made by Rep. Steve King (R-IA). Rep. King said of candidate Barack Obama: “I will tell you that, if he is elected president, then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11, because they will declare victory in this war on terror.” That was and is a truthful statement. King went on to say: “Additionally, his middle name does matter. (Author’s Note: Obama’s middle name is Hussein). It matters because they read a meaning into that in the rest of the world. That has a special meaning to them. They will be dancing in the streets because of his middle name. They will be dancing in the streets because of who his father was and because of his posture that says ‘Pull out of the Middle East and pull out of this conflict’.” This is also a truthful statement.

Obama has repeatedly said that if he is elected President of the United States, he will immediately begin removing troops from Iraq. And from a Barack Obama campaign page: “Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.” This would amount to Obama handing over the country of Iraq to terrorist Iran. Therefore, Obama will have fulfilled the Communist Goals for the US as well as goals set by Islamist terrorists. Suffice it to say, the Islamists will be thrilled to the point of ‘dancing in the streets’ if not beheading a few folks in the name of celebration.

Obama is being supported by anti-American Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. Obama’s church “Trinity United Church of Christ” has given Farrakhan an award for “lifetime achievement” and service to the African-American community. Note: Obama’s church is a black-separatist organization. We are known by the company we keep.

Yes. I believe it is safe to say that should Barack Obama be elected POTUS, the Islamist dancing in the streets will be unbridled and epidemic throughout the world.

For over 15 years, Obama has been firmly and irrevocably tied to Syrian born Real Estate developer Tony Rezko who is currently on trial for federal corruption charges. Rezco has contributed heavily to Obama’s campaigns and has been both a fundraiser and friend to the Senator and now presidential candidate. Rezko and Obama are also tied to Iraqi billionaire and alleged Baathist member Nadhmi Auchi. Auchi is expected to play a part in Rezko’s current trial. Barack Obama—who apparently still refuses to say the American Pledge of Allegiance—is tied to Auchi. Obama also claims friendship with former terrorist leader of the Weather Underground William Ayers. Whew! Obama seems to have his fingers in many illicit and anti-American cookie jars—doesn’t he?

I suggest that the leftist and/or terrorist reaction to Rep. King’s telling the truth about a terrorist response to the potential election of Barack Hussein Obama as president of the US is the least of our concerns.

Candidate Obama’s actual record and associations should sound alarms for all of us and be our primary worry.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19647.shtml

-- March 10, 2008 6:45 PM


Sara wrote:

This shows that the bantering about of an aide saying Hillary is a monster..
only shows that both Democrats are in lockstep company..

===

Barack Hussein Obama Refused: "I Did Not Want To Concede"
By Marie Jon'
MichNews.com
Mar 10, 2008

How does one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ help to legislate killing the unborn? It is a complete contradiction to the teachings of the Bible "You shall not murder" [Exodus 20:13].

As an Illinois state senator, Barack Hussein Obama refused to support legislation to protect babies that survived late-term abortions, claiming "I did not want to concede."

To what was Obama referring? His statement was in reference to babies that were fully outside their mothers' wombs. Thus, Obama did not want to concede the fact that babies who survived a late term abortion were in fact "persons." He was the only senator of the Democrat Party to speak against baby protection legislation. He was the only legislator from either side of the political isle that took his position.

In 2002, the Illinois State Legislature passed the Infant Liability Act to outlaw the inhumane practice of infanticide. There was never a thought that this bill would be opposed. However, Obama opposed it on two different occasions — first by trying to limit discussion and then trying to block a vote on it in the committee he chaired.

Obama dispassionately listened to the testimony of a nurse, Jill Stanek, who described hearing a baby's cry that could be heard down the hall during a late term abortion in a hospital in Illinois. Another nurse placed the dying child in a soiled utility room to die. "I couldn't bear the thought of this suffering child lying alone in a soiled utility room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived."

"Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.

"He is so pro-abortion he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede — as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor — that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact 'persons.'

" 'Persons,' of course, are guaranteed equal protection of the law under the 14th Amendment.

"In 2004, U.S. Senate-candidate Obama mischaracterized his opposition to this legislation. Now, as a presidential frontrunner, he should be held accountable for what he actually said and did about the Born Alive Infants Bill.

And to think that this man wants to become America's president. According to National Journal, Barack Hussein Obama is the most liberal presidential candidate within the Democrat Party and he prides himself on being the most pro-abortion candidate ever.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19641.shtml

-- March 10, 2008 7:46 PM


Sara wrote:

It may be inconvenient to admit that the US is at war..
or to act like it.
But America needs to wake up and live in reality with responsibility..
because the consequences in the war on terror are far worse than veteran JFK faced.

===

SNL Highlights Obama's Fatal Flaw
By Michael J. Gaynor
MichNews.com
Mar 10, 2008

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Barack's fatal flaw is the likelihood that America's enemies around the world would perceive him as weak and act accordingly.

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Reality: Rookie United States Senator Barack Obama is far more likely to be perceived by America's enemies around the world as someone they can challenge than Republican John McCain, or Democrat rival Hillary Clinton, or the late JFK..

Hillary should send flowers to the folks at Saturday Night Live for focusing on that important reason NOT to vote for Barack.

The Saturday Night Live skit showing a President Barack in bed calling a Senator Hillary in bed for advice after learning from the CIA that Iran has developed a nuclear device, with the help of Russia, North Korea and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, because he had been inaugurated as the President of the United States, is just what Hillary needed the voters to see.

The skit shows Hillary in face cream trying to get a breaking down Barack to "man up" after she receives what seems like a 3 AM phone call from him.

Barack's fatal flaw is the likelihood that America's enemies would perceive him as weak and act accordingly.

Ironically, America suffered that kind of problem after JFK became President: a belief that the President of the United States was afraid to fight and therefore could be bullied.

A result of the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the Vienna summit was that Khrushchev concluded (wrongly) that he could get away with installing offensive nuclear missiles in Cuba, because JFK was weak.

It wasn't something Khrushchev would have tried with Ike or Nixon in the White House.

JFK insisted that those missiles be removed after they were discovered and, in the words of JFK's Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, the United States and the Soviet Union went "eyeball to eyeball."

Fortunately, notwithstanding JFK's 1960 campaign rhetoric about a missile gap, the balance of power was in favor of the United States, so a deal was cut whereby the missiles were removed, Castro was left in control of Cuba and, after a short interval, the United States declared its Jupiter missiles in Turkey (which bordered the Soviet Union) "obsolete" and removed them.

JFK was a World War II veteran, had served in the House of Representatives and was a veteran senator when he was elected President in 1960.

Barack chose not to serve in the military, lost his race for the House of Representatives and started his run for President about a year after he became a rookie United States Senator.

Presumptuousness is not a substitute for preparation for the Presidency of the United States.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19643.shtml

-- March 10, 2008 7:53 PM


Sara wrote:

Are we really so foolish as to believe that the enemy will lay down their weapons if a dove like Obama were to take the Whitehouse and pull out of Iraq? Are we really willing to gamble with American lives our having again another 9/11? Is there really no danger we now face? Is it really all "fear-mongering"?

Or is the reality, like President Bush said when marking the fifth anniversary of the creation of the Homeland Security Department, "it was hard to imagine that we would reach this milestone without another attack on our homeland."

I believe it has been the unimaginable Grace of Almighty God which has kept the American Homeland clear of terrorist threats. The Lord has indeed kept the nation.

Would He be able to do so under an inexperienced dove like Obama? If JFK barely managed the crisis to the Homeland due to his weak leadership (and he was a veteran).. how would the country fare under an inexperienced person who has never been in the military nor seen combat? For we are in a truly critical time of war and threat to the Homeland, as there is indeed a very real threat to the Homeland.. one we are not free to ignore:

==

Commander Claims Al Qaeda Working Harder to Attack U.S.
Friday, March 07, 2008

Washington — Al Qaeda terrorists may be plotting more urgently to attack the United States to maintain their credibility and ability to recruit followers, the U.S. military commander in charge of domestic defense said Thursday.

Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, chief of the U.S. Northern Command, also told reporters he has not seen any direct threats tied to the U.S. presidential elections. But he said it would be rash to think that such threats are not there.

"We need only to look at Spain and see that they're certainly willing to try to do something that is significant that could affect an election process," Renuart said. "I think it would be imprudent of us to let down our guard believing that if there's no credible threat that you know of today, there won't be something tomorrow."

While he said that U.S. authorities have thwarted attacks on a number of occasions, he said terrorist cells may be working harder than ever to plot high-impact events. He did not point to any specific intelligence that authorities have received but said the "chatter" they are hearing "gives me no reason to believe they're going to slow down" in their efforts to target the U.S.

"If an organization like that is to maintain credibility and continue to grow more of its extremists, it has to show tangible results," Renuart said. "So I think there may be a certain sense of urgency among that organization to have an effect. So it would tell me that they're trying harder."

The chatter, which included public audio and video tapes released on the Internet by Al Qaeda leaders, suggests that they are looking for a way to have a big impact again, he said.

He did repeat his assertion — which he first made last July — that he believes there are al Qaeda cells or sympathizers within the United States.

President Bush, in a speech, also said the United States remained under threat from terrorists. Marking the fifth anniversary of the creation of the Homeland Security Department, Bush said that in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks "it was hard to imagine that we would reach this milestone without another attack on our homeland."

Yet he said, "On this anniversary, we must also remember that the danger to our country has not passed. Since the attacks of 9/11, the terrorists have tried to strike our homeland again and again. We've disrupted numerous planned attacks — including a plot to fly an airplane into the tallest building on the West Coast and another to blow up passenger jets headed for America across the Atlantic Ocean."

Bush said the lesson is clear: "The enemy remains active, deadly in its intent — and in the face of this danger, the United States must never let down its guard."

Last July, U.S. intelligence analysts, in a threat assessment, concluded that al Qaeda has rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The report said the terror network has regrouped along the Afghan-Pakistan border..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335908,00.html

-- March 10, 2008 8:24 PM


Sara wrote:

Attestation to the Providential Care over the US Homeland by Almighty God and the need for continued vigilant care for the Homeland by qualified personnel.. right up to and including the Commander-in-chief:

===

The Terror Nobody Knows: Thwarted Attacks on the U.S.
Friday, March 07, 2008
By Joseph Abrams

In July 2005, the Los Angeles Police Department caught a group of men who had been robbing gas stations in the area. While investigating, police uncovered something far worse: The gas station hits were bankrolling a terrorist plot to attack National Guard facilities, synagogues, the Israeli consulate and Los Angeles International Airport.

Deputy Chief of Police Michael Downing says the group was "closer to going operational at the time than anyone since 9/11."

Thomas P. O'Brien, the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, says, "An untold number of lives may have been saved when this terrorist cell was dismantled."

This story is hardly unique: Since Sept. 11, authorities have disrupted more than 20 publicly known plots against domestic U.S. targets, involving dozens of arrests at home and abroad.

Some of these plots are well-known, such as Richard Reid's failed "shoe bombing" in December 2001 and the liquid explosives plot of 2006, when British investigators uncovered a plan to carry bombs on airliners bound for the U.S. Each of those incidents permanently changed airport security protocols.

Then there was the plot to kill U.S. soldiers using assault rifles and grenades at Fort Dix in New Jersey, and the so-called "Lackawanna Six," who pleaded guilty to providing support to Al Qaeda.

But others have passed by with little notice from the general public, as well as critics of government efforts to protect the U.S. from homegrown terror attacks.

Take, for example, Iyman Faris, of Columbus, Ohio, who plotted to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge and was convicted of conspiracy and providing material support for Al Qaeda in 2003.

Later that year 11 men with connections to Al Qaeda were discovered training for jihad in Virginia, using paintball games to simulate battlefield situations. In 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj were convicted of planning to bomb New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a household name for his role as mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, also is known to have prepared little-known strikes against America's tallest building, the Sears Tower in Chicago, as well as the Empire State Building in New York and the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles.

In contrast, Dhiren Barot may not be a familiar name, although some security experts say he should be. An Indian convert to Islam, the Pakistan-based Barot planned a series of ruinous attacks on the U.S. and U.K, including the New York Stock Exchange and the IMF building in Washington, D.C. Barot was caught by British authorities in 2004 and sentenced to life imprisonment for conspiracy to commit murder.

Successful prosecutions are key to tackling terrorism, but they are not an easy process. Investigators prefer to wait for overwhelming evidence of a terrorist plot, and the timing is difficult. Plots often are disrupted early and as a result, he says, "you don't often have well-developed cases."

But there have been successes, and the courts have been very active since Sept. 11. According to Sean Boyd, a spokesman for the Justice Department, 527 defendants have been charged in terrorism or terrorism-related cases arising from investigations primarily conducted after Sept. 11.

Those cases have resulted in 319 convictions, with an additional 176 cases pending in court.

It's not a perfect record for the Justice Department, but it still is a good one, says McCarthy, who prosecuted and convicted "blind sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman, ringleader of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center.

"The batting average is not as high as it was prior to Sept. 11," when most investigations focused on crimes already committed, "but that again is something that we are going to have to accept," McCarthy says.

Allison Barrie, a security and terrorism consultant and a FOXNews.com contributor, agrees on the difficulties. "The evidence [in these trials] is always at its best at the 11th hour," she says. Waiting until the last moment is dangerous, but "you've got to weigh that against actually getting that prosecution."

So far, that strategy has been decisive in preventing another attack on the scale of Sept. 11. "We've just been plain lucky," Barrie says.

And intelligence work hasn't prevented smaller attacks from being carried out.

On July 4, 2002, Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, opened fire at the El Al ticket counter at LAX, killing two people before a security guard killed him.

That same ticket counter later would be targeted by those L.A. gas station robbers, a homegrown terrorist group with roots in a California prison.

Homegrown groups often are difficult to detect, and the California cell was not found through careful intelligence work; the LAPD stumbled on them by accident. They might never have been discovered.

"The cliché is true," Barrie says. "Terrorists only have to be lucky once, but the good guys have to be lucky every time."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335498,00.html

===end quote===

These words, "We've just been plain lucky," and "the LAPD stumbled on them by accident" are words of people who cannot see the Providential hand of God working to bring to light these plots. There is no such thing as "luck".

If it is all only "scare-mongering" and there is no threat.. what are these?

===

List of Thwarted Terror Attacks Since Sept. 11
Thursday, March 06, 2008
By Joseph Abrams

The following is a list of known terror plots thwarted by the U.S. government since Sept. 11, 2001.

• December 2001, Richard Reid: British citizen attempted to ignite shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.

• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking "dirty bomb," convicted of conspiracy.

• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.

• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with trying to topple the Brooklyn Bridge.

• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.

• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers (see additional images, Click here to view pictures of terrorists and their targets: http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,3480,00.html )

• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.

• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.

• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.

• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.

• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up refinery in Wyoming, convicted of providing material support to terrorists.

• February 2006, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Zand Wassim Mazloum: Accused of providing material support to terrorists, making bombs for use in Iraq.

• April 2006, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee: Cased and videotaped the Capitol and World Bank for a terrorist organization.

• June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower.

• July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to hit New York City train tunnels.

• August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States.

• May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey.

• June 2007, JFK Plot: Four men accused of plotting to blow up fuel arteries underneath JFK Airport in New York.

• March 2007, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Mastermind of Sept. 11 and author of numerous plots confessed in court in March 2007 to planning to destroy skyscrapers in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335500,00.html

-- March 10, 2008 9:13 PM


Sara wrote:

As for saying it was all a plot to go into Iraq and take their oil..
and people just created false reports to justify going into Iraq..
here we have a studied Congressional finding which says, QUOTE:

"the report also acknowledges that many claims were consistent with intelligence assessments of Iraq that existed at the time."
"...the claims that were later proven wrong were largely in line with US intelligence assessments at the time, the report said."

No conspiracy.. we were just trying to deal with these people who continue to plot against the Homeland such as I have just documented. And Iraq was a threat to the United States worth taking out. That is what will be the judgement of history. Learn to deal with that reality.

===

US Senate committee to release mixed verdict on Iraq: report
Mon Mar 10, 2008

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A new congressional report on the Iraq war criticizes White House officials for making assertions that failed to reflect disagreements or uncertainties in intelligence findings, The Los Angeles Times reported Monday.

But citing unnamed congressional officials, the newspaper said the report also acknowledges that many claims were consistent with intelligence assessments of Iraq that existed at the time.

The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee examines dozens of pre-war claims by President George W. Bush and other administration officials about Iraq's alleged stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction that proved to be wildly inaccurate.

But the final findings of the document are mixed, the paper said.

According to the Times, the report is divided into categories that focus on pre-war claims about Iraq's alleged chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs, as well as its supposed ties to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

Each section includes as many as 20 pre-war claims, as well as a summary conclusion on whether the assertions were generally warranted.

In many cases, the claims that were later proven wrong were largely in line with US intelligence assessments at the time, the report said.

"The left is not going to be happy," the paper quotes an unnamed congressional official as saying. "The right is not going to be happy. Nobody is going to be happy."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080310/pl_afp/usiraqcongressintelligence

-- March 10, 2008 9:36 PM


Valerio wrote:

Makes you wonder if the surge is what has reduced Al-Qeada in Iraq, or if they have taken a new strategy that includes supporting , and awaiting the election of Barak Hussein Obama as president of the United States of America.

There is something to fear when the unlearned, uneducated, and unaware masses are all insired to vote.

-- March 11, 2008 12:38 AM


Roger wrote:

Have cruised the usual sites, and nothing, well the Dinar finally moved, a trickle but it did.

It's pressed to move on, it must, and have no other alternative but.

The Dinar have been stuck on 1210 for quite some time now, and yanked off ( finally) to 1209, and while it is not something that I would do a pot roast set up in the Keys for, I'll take it.

Like the old air carrier from the 2WW that they tried to get out of the harbor in NY, it got stuck in the muck, but finally it moved.

Well, that's better.

I may as well give some news on what's going on on my side of the universe. I am in a waiting pool to get over to Iraq, but as the world turns, they have put a temporary stop on personnel that is sent over in this moment of time.

This is due to anticipated drawbacks of military presence, and as the contractor I am to serve with, are experiencing a slow down in their business, so do their need for personnel. If this continues for a couple of more weeks, I will probably say that, it was nice, but I have to move on, and start to be of some good use somewhere else.

We will see, the money is good, and I really want to go, but then again, I can't amuse myself with building hydrogen cells forever while I am waiting for my turn.

Have placed a pick list on ISX to be executed today, will get answer usually within a day or so after the ISX auction.

Sometimes you get what you want, sometimes you don't. It's not a WalMart purchase, where the shelf's are filled the whole time, you get what is offered, and if the shelf is empty, you don't get it.

Also for you out there that might have had some thoughts about how to get money FROM Iraq (once you are filthy rich of course) , I just went trough that, I had a couple of thousands Dollars sent back, and it was all done very quick.

From Iraq there is a difference, it goes straight from YOUR Iraqi account, to YOUR US account.

I just did the operation, and in no time, it showed up in my account as available funds. Faster than quick.

-- March 11, 2008 7:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Slight drop in demand for dollar in daily auction

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Tuesday , 11 /03 /2008 Time 2:26:22




Baghdad, Mar 10, (VOI) - Demand for the dollar slightly dropped in the Iraqi Central Bank's auction on Monday, registering at $106.930 million compared to $114.250 million on Sunday.
"The demand hit $19.870 million in cash and $87.060 million in money transfers outside the country, all covered by the bank at a rate of 1,209 Iraqi dinars per dollar, a tick lower than yesterday," according to the central bank's daily bulletin and received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The 13 banks that participated in the auction offered to sell $10.400 million, which the bank bought at an exchange rate of 1,207 Iraqi dinars per dollar.
Speaking to VOI, Ali al-Yasseri, a trader, said that foreign transfers still high in today's session sending the overall size of demand up, but he expected a drop in the demand over the forthcoming sessions this week.
The Iraqi Central Bank runs a daily auction from Sunday to Thursday.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 9:45 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Turkish-Iraqi trade to triple to $20 bn by 2010

Economic activity between Turkey and Iraq received a much welcomed boost following a visit by Iraq’s oil minister Dr. Hussain al-Shahristani to Ankara, during which discussion were held regarding Turkish investment in Iraq’s energy sector.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 9:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Here is a mention of Article VII. In my opinion, the restoration of Iraqi sovereignty is an important step toward a peaceful and prosperous Iraq.
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Iraq to enjoy full sovereignty this year, says De Mistura 11/03/2008 14:16:00

Najaf (NINA)- UN Secretary-General's Special Representative for Iraq Staffan De Mistura said Iraq will be out of mandate of the UN Charter's article 7 this year, adding "This will be the year of sovereignty for Iraq."
(www.ninanews.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 9:49 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi president addresses opening session of the Arab parliament union in

POL-ARAB-PARLIAMENT
Iraqi president addresses opening session of the Arab parliament union in

Irbil IRBIL, Iraq, March 11 (KUNA) -- Iraqi President Jalal Talbani on Tuesday wished success for the Arab parliament union which embarked on a historic session here earlier in the day, noting that Iraq is adhered to its Arab commitments.

Addressing the opening meeting of the union's 13h session, Talabani said Iraqi parties were exerting efforts to construct the country and place Iraq on the path of full recovery.

President of the Iraqi Kurdistan region Masoud Barazani, President of the Iraqi Parliament Mahmoud Mishhadani, Head of the Iraqi Kurdistan Region parliament Anan Mufti attended the opening ceremony.

Head of the Arab parliament Union Nouruldin Bushakouh in an opening address welcomed the participants, while speaker of the Iraqi parliament wished success for the conferees. (end) ihm.bz.
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 9:52 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Support drops for action on Iran

POL-UK-IRAN-POLL
Support drops for action on Iran

LONDON, March 11 (KUNA) -- Support for tough international action against Iran over its nuclear programme has fallen in the past 18 months, a poll carried out for the BBC suggested Tuesday.

Fewer people now say Iran should face sanctions or military strikes over its refusal to abide by UN resolutions.

The United States and Western allies believe Iran may be developing nuclear weapons, but Iran vehemently denies this.

Of more than 30,000 people asked, most said Iran should be allowed to produce nuclear fuel if subject to UN checks.

"It appears that people in many countries are interested in ramping down the confrontation with Iran, while still using UN inspectors to ensure that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons," said Steven Kull, director of the "Pipa" group which carried out the poll in partnership with "Globescan" on behalf of the BBC World Service.

The latest survey was carried out in 31 countries and draws on a similar poll conducted in June 2006.

Overall, only seven percent of those questioned in the Pipa-Globescan poll backed the idea of military strikes.

On average, more than 40 percent of people questioned in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and the Americas supported diplomacy as the route forward.

But the BBC said that Iran may find it worrying that China, one of its most important trading partners and a permanent UN Security Council member with a veto vote, was not far behind, with 40 percent of people backing punitive measures.

Most of the recent interviews were conducted after the release of the US National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) last December, which surprised many by saying Iran had halted its nuclear weapons programme back in 2003.(end)
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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General: al-Qaida Could Press Attacks
Deutsche Presse-Agentur | March 11, 2008
Washington - The commander of coalition forces in western Iraq on March 10 said al-Qaeda may be changing its tactics and planning a large scale attack in Iraq.

But "stunning" progress in training Iraqi security forces and garnering local support in Anbar Province and elsewhere meant the U.S. and Iraqi military would be ready for them, said Marine Maj. Gen. John Kelly in a satellite briefing to reporters in Washington.

Kelly also said that the U.S. military was "very close" to handing over Anbar Province to local Iraqi control.

And he noted that the draw-down of the U.S. presence had already begun, as reflected consideration being given to closing some of the larger coalition bases in western Iraq.

Security in Anbar Province is currently held by 45,000 Iraqi army and police officers supported by 30,000 coalition troops, Kelly said. Al-Qaeda had been knocked "down but not knocked out," and faced increasing vigilance by "local folks" willing to give tips to security forces.

Kelly conceded that al-Qaeda could reemerge in other provinces in the north, and there were "indications" that they may be changing their tactics to plan a "large media-type event." One indication, he said, was the increasing use of suicide vests.

Large bomb events have plagued Baghdad in recent days, and on Monday, five U.S. Soldiers on foot patrol were killed by a suicide bomber in central Baghdad - one of the worst attacks on US military since January, U.S. military officials said.

"The good news is we don't believe they're at liberty to build some of these large bomb-type devices inside (Anbar) province," Kelly said.

He said he did not believe the upcoming fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, on March 20, would be a target date for al-Qaeda. "They operate on their own time schedule," Kelly said.

The commander said that the U.S. military could consider closing some of the larger bases because "we've really decentralized out into very small, company-sized bases, to maintain the contact with the population and with the civil leaders."

As for handing Anbar Province over to Iraqi control, Kelly said he and the Iraqi governor were going through various checklists, and would make separate recommendations up the respective chains of coalition command and Iraqi governance.

"We are very, very close, here in the province, as we sort out just a couple of things, equipment-type, in the province," and the relationship between the province and the national government, Kelly said.

One of the equipment issues, he said, was that provincial police needed a forensic laboratory to conduct their own investigations.

Kelly said violence had fallen to a "stunning" low level, compared to three years ago, when coalition forces could not go into the cities of Fallujah and Ramadi without a "gun fight going in, gun fight coming out."

He said al-Qaeda was no longer going after coalition and American forces, but rather after the sheiks, effective police officials and civilian leaders such as mayors.

That was where the "biggest threat" was right now, Kelly said.
(www.military.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 10:01 AM


Sara wrote:

WHICH 31 countries is that?

Rob N;

This is interesting.. your post says of that poll concerning IRAN, "Of more than 30,000 people asked, most said Iran should be allowed to produce nuclear fuel if subject to UN checks. The latest survey was carried out in 31 countries and draws on a similar poll conducted in June 2006."

Soooo.. we are now dealing with 31 countries for our polling data and I am not even sure Israel or America is in the data, so the opinion (or weight of opinion) is not from the ones which are under direct threat from Iran. And, may I ask you.. how many of those are Communist or radical Islamic in government? It may be that these people they polled think it is ok and they are the uninformed masses.. or perhaps they are prejudiced against us because they are from partial countries, such as those in Europe.. as explained by a former director of the CIA,
QUOTE:

"James Woolsey, former director of the United States Central Intelligence Agency, explained. “Europe is accommodating Sharia (Islamic law) and becoming increasingly affected by the Muslim demographics in their countries.”

Woolsey said he sees no distinction between the Islamic onslaught in Israel, Iraq or elsewhere. He compared the war against Islamism with that against Nazism and Communism.

As a former director of the world’s largest intelligence agency, Woolsey dismissed claims by Iran and its apologists that the Islamic Republic seeks nuclear capability for peaceful means.

“With its huge oil and natural gas reserves, Iran is not the least bit interested in nuclear power,” he said. “And negotiation with a movement that defines itself by its goal of the destruction of Israel and the United States is like trying to persuade Hitler to give up anti-Semitism.”

Woolsey displayed in-depth knowledge of the various theological movements and streams vying for the soul of the Islamic world. “The Ujutiya – end of time – movement represents a major part of Iranian politics today,” he warned. “If we look at it like a chess game, the nuclear bomb is the queen.”

Woolsey said that those warning against Islam’s push to establish Islamic law across the globe are accused of being Islamophobic. “We are not Islamaphobes,” he said, “but we are theocraphobic."

“We, Jews, Christian and others are inheritors of the rule of law,” he said. “Democracy without the rule of law is a mob and capitalism without democracy is theft. Jefferson said, and it is printed on his memorial: ‘I have sworn on the altar of Almighty G-d eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.’ ”

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133545

Soo.. as for this poll saying that the Iranians should be allowed nuclear weapons under the guise of nuclear fuel (as Mr. Woolsey says, “With its huge oil and natural gas reserves, Iran is not the least bit interested in nuclear power,”) I don't think those polled have a clue what the real stakes are or what is going on.

Again, Mr. Woolsey says this movement defines itself by its goal of the destruction of Israel and the United States - so are we supposed to agree that these polled persons are allowed to sit safely in their countries which are not under threat and say "don't defend yourself" until we get blown to pieces by Iranian nuclear armed suicide bombers - either infiltrated or homegrown cels?? Remember, it is the US and Israel they have sworn to destroy as previously documented in these stories:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "We Will Soon Experience A World Without The United States And Zionism."

Iran Threatens US “Harm And Pain” Over Nukes

Iranian group signing up potential martyrs - Some 200 Iranians have volunteered in the past few days to carry out "martyrdom missions" against U.S. and British interests around the world..

“Commander of Lovers of Martyrdom Garrison: Let America and Israel know, each of our suicide volunteers equals a nuclear bomb”

Urls of these stories at previous post: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133544

OR, if these polled persons are aware they are advocating against the security of Israel and the US, they are rooting for Iran to overthrow the West and establish an Islamic caliphate with Sharia (Islamic law) - hence, the countries polled are likely caving in to the rule of Islamic law and those radical interests as they are doing in Europe. I note they did not mention WHICH 31 countries they polled for this data or their affiliations/viewpoints toward radical Islamic rule. Statistics such as polling data can be manipulated.. as this polling data from WHICH 31 countries illustrates clearly.

Sara.

-- March 11, 2008 12:43 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

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3-11-08
Saddam-era spies at work in Iraq

BAGHDAD — Iraq's government has been quietly bringing back into service Saddam-era intelligence agents who have experience spying on Iranians.
The effort is aimed at improving Iraq's ability to gather intelligence about Iranian-supported networks operating in Iraq, said Dan Maguire, the top U.S. adviser on intelligence.

Most Saddam-era intelligence agents fled after the U.S.-led invasion. Saddam Hussein's notorious security services were the dictator's primary means of repressing the population.

The practice of hiring former intelligence agents seems to conflict with a new law designed to come to terms with people who worked in Saddam's ruling Baath Party. The "Accountability and Justice" law, passed this year, bans members of Saddam-era security services from government work because of their brutal reputation.

cont...

(http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...am-spies_N.htm)

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Rob N.

-- March 11, 2008 2:34 PM


mattuk wrote:

FEATURE-Iraqis still ask if U.S. invasion was worth it
Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:04pm GMT

By Dean Yates

BAGHDAD, March 11 (Reuters) - Five years after U.S. and British forces swept into Iraq and toppled Saddam Hussein, many Iraqis are asking if the violence and upheaval that turned their lives upside down was worth it.

The human cost is staggering -- anywhere between 90,000 and 1 million Iraqi civilians killed, according to various estimates; nearly 4,000 U.S. soldiers dead; while 4 million Iraqis are displaced.

On the bright side, Iraqis are rid of one of the 20th century's most ruthless dictators. They held free elections and have a new constitution.

For Iraqis, deciding if the invasion was worth the sacrifice depends partly on their sect and ethnicity and where they live.

Saddam, a Sunni Arab, persecuted the country's majority Shi'ites and Kurds. Shi'ites now hold the reins of power while once-dominant Sunni Arabs have become marginalised.

In Baghdad, epicentre of a sectarian war in 2006 and 2007 that nearly tore Iraq apart, people long for the safe streets of Saddam's era. In the Shi'ite south, they no longer fear Saddam's henchmen, but rival Shi'ite factions competing for influence.

In the north, the economy of largely autonomous Kurdistan is flourishing in a region that Kurds call "the other Iraq".

Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari, a Kurd, said Iraq was moving in the right direction. Those who felt the invasion was a mistake should remember Saddam's atrocities, he said.

Zebari said proof that a majority of Iraqis supported the overthrow of Saddam was their participation in 2005 elections.

"The brutality of Saddam's regime deformed society in many ways so we have to be patient," he told Reuters in an interview.

"Compared to the experience of other nations I think we have done very well. But yes, it has been very, very costly."

Um Khalid, a 40-year old Baghdad hairdresser, said violence was so random that no one knew if they would be its next victim.

"No, no, no. What happened was not worth it. Those who say things are better are lying," she said.

KILLED OVER THEIR NAME

Many Iraqis vividly recall the chaotic months after the invasion on March 20, 2003, symbolised by the toppling of a big statue of Saddam in central Baghdad.

Their euphoria at new freedoms and hopes the United States would transform Iraq into another rich Gulf Arab state were dashed as Sunni Arabs rose up against their new rulers and car bombs turned markets and mosques into killing fields.

In February 2006, suspected al Qaeda militants blew up a revered Shi'ite mosque in the town of Samarra, unleashing a wave of sectarian violence that meant being a Shi'ite or a Sunni in the wrong neighbourhood could be a death sentence.

"Before 2003, we lived under a tough regime, no one can deny that," said Abu Wasan, 55, a former army brigadier-general and a senior member of Saddam's disbanded Baath party.

"But at least we never heard of bodies getting dumped on garbage just because people had a Sunni or a Shi'ite name."

The worst of the sectarian carnage is over, at least for now. A year ago, police would find up to 50 bodies in the streets of Baghdad each day. That number has dropped to single digits thanks to the deployment of additional U.S. troops and ceasefires by many Shi'ite and Sunni Arabs militants. Also in many Baghdad areas ethnic cleansing has already been completed.

GRIM NUMBERS

The latest tolls from the widely cited human rights group Iraq Body Count show up to 89,000 civilians have been killed since 2003. Research conducted by one of Britain's leading polling groups, however, puts the death toll at 1 million.

The U.S. military death toll stands at 3,975.

Other statistics make for grim reading.

The United Nations estimates 4 million Iraqis are struggling to feed themselves while 40 percent of the country's 27 million people have no safe water. The Iraqi doctors' syndicate says up to 70 percent of specialist doctors have fled abroad.

Iraq's national power grid, devastated by years of war and sanctions, leaves millions in the dark. The country has the world's third largest reserves of oil, but motorists sometimes queue at petrol stations for hours.

"I have been in this queue since dawn waiting to fill my car," said Abdullah Ahmed, 53, a taxi driver in the northern city of Kirkuk, which sits atop huge reserves of oil.

"What democracy? What prosperity? When the statue fell, we thought we would live like the Gulf, but that was just words."

People with such views are overlooking the joy of speaking freely, said Ahmed Sebti, 39, owner of a kebab restaurant in the southern Shi'ite city of Najaf.

In the past, making fun of Saddam could have deadly consequences. The current president, Jalal Talabani, has a keen sense of humour and loves satire.

"Before, civil servants couldn't eat kebabs. Now my income depends on them. Living standards are better," said Sebti.

Some Iraqis fear the invasion has set into motion political forces that could lead to the partition of Iraq into Shi'ite, Sunni Arab and Kurdish regions -- a prospect that would inevitably be bloody and may drag in neighbouring countries.

But Iraq is no longer a threat to its neighbours.

It is also one of the few countries in the region to hold free elections, something unheard of in neighbouring Gulf Arab countries. Provincial elections that could redraw Iraq's political map are expected later this year.

Sheikh Fatwa al-Jerboa, a Sunni Arab tribal leader in the northern city of Mosul, said there was plenty to be happy about.

"I feel grateful to the British and Americans for ousting this dreadful dictator. Now we enjoy freedom of speech and the freedom to choose our own leaders," he said.

Yousif Kamil, 25, in the northern city of Baiji, disagreed.

"It was a big mistake by America. We will remember it as they remember Vietnam," he said.

(Additional reporting by Ahmed Rasheed, Wisam Mohammed and Aseel Kami in Baghdad, and reporters in Basra, Najaf, Ramadi, Kirkuk, Baiji and Mosul; Editing by Samia Nakhoul)

Source: Reuters UK

-- March 11, 2008 3:55 PM


Investor wrote:

Interview with American Ambassador Charles Ries, who is responsible for economic development in Iraq. From thedonovan.com archives. Part 1:

March 7, 2008
On Iraq's Economic Development: An Interview with Ambassador Ries
Corrections: several errors have been pointed out by the Ambassador and corrected below: 1) 1.5 and 2 million barrels a day refers exports, not total production. Total production is 2.5 million/day. 2) The new government agency in charge of investment is the National Investment Commission, not an Investment Ministry (though the "commissioner" will hold a rank equal to Minister). 3) Oil revenue-sharing is happening today; the issue at hand now is adding foreign investment into the mix.

On February 21st when I interviewed Brigadier General Cardon, he shared his opinion that “The real story over the next several months is going to be political and economic.” He discussed the potential for foreign investors who would bring industry and jobs to Iraqis and said now is the time for business to come and take a look. “This is a country of personal engagement…. Getting here early is a good thing if you want to have a long-term business arrangement.”

This statement inspired interest among readers in learning more about economic development and investment in Iraq. The request to 3ID's public affairs office for someone who could speak more authoritatively on the subject ultimately landed at the State Department, and what follows is the result.

This past Wednesday evening I spoke for nearly an hour with America's senior man in Iraq for economic development: Ambassador Charles Ries, Coordinator for Economic Transition in Iraq and Economics Minister. The focus of the interview was Iraq's readiness to receive foreign investment, but in a very forthcoming manner he covered topics ranging from banking and other infrastructure to labor, agriculture, and the challenges facing attempts to create a modern Iraqi economy.

The most striking message of the interview was how much security and economic development go hand in hand, reinforcing each other. They are completely inter-dependent; each without the other will not result in sustainable peace or success. Over-arching all of this is the legislative factor: full implementation of many plans and activities awaits action by Iraqi governmental leadership.

And so, in listening to Ambassador Ries, one is left with the impression of Iraq as an immensely complicated economic jigsaw puzzle, each part dependent on the other and full of bottled-up potential. The biggest challenge is the bottleneck through which it seems each piece must pass. Not surprisingly, it all comes back to oil. It is oil revenue that will fund Iraq's government, and thus fund almost every project that descends from the government. The problem right now is that because oil revenue-sharing is still not completely resolved, many of the needed improvements to oil production capabilities (which will result in increased production/revenue) can't yet be made. The success of almost all the plans and processes covered in my discussion with Ambassador Ries ultimately hinges on the Iraqis' ability to successfully resolve the revenue-sharing issues.

Despite the bottle-neck over oil revenue, a great deal of economic development is occurring in Iraq, and there is much to be excited about. "Iraq is seeing the economic indications of the successful security surge," says Ambassador Ries. "Since the middle of last year we have seen the revival of markets, more economic activity [and the] very early starts of permanent investment and banking activity. We are quite pleased."

The International Monetary fund predicts 7% growth in Iraq's economy, though predictions have repeatedly fallen flat in the past. However, Ambassador Ries is very optimistic, pointing to several factors that he says will increase growth beyond last year's sluggish rate. According to the ambassador, the lack of security in the first half of 2007 created a strong drag on the economy. "Things that couldn't happen due to the security situation were like a tax on the economy," holding it down. But with the success of the “surge” and its accompanying counter-insurgency tactics, security has improved and removed that “tax.” As an example, Ambassador Ries pointed to oil production and exports. In July (shortly after the "surge" reached full strength and just before it began to show results), Iraq was exporting about 1.5 million barrels of oil a day. Today, Iraq is "nudging up against 2 million barrels a day" (total production went from 2 to 2.5 million barrels during that time).

Ambassador Ries predicts this increase in oil production and exports will have a "trickle-down" effect that will fuel the entire economy in the coming year as oil revenue is immediately rolled over into government development projects such as construction sites. Money is already flowing into the provinces and governmental ministries for things like fixing streets, building schools, and dealing with infrastructure problems stemming from war and neglect. This results in greater employment, since people are needed to implement these projects, and the newly-employed workers in turn create demand for products they want to purchase with their earnings... Which creates money-making opportunities for other citizens, etc.

Though specific governmental ministries have been soliciting bids for very narrow projects, it is in many ways a little bit too soon to speak of general foreign investment in Iraq. As of yet, there is no way for a prospective investor to call up a single person in the Iraqi government and say, "I'd like to build a glass factory in your country." However, a highly-regarded Iraqi has been nominated to head the newly-developed National Investment Commission at rank of Minister, and his approval is expected when the legislature returns from its break. Meanwhile, the groundwork is being laid, and like so much in Iraq, is on the edge of bearing fruit.

That groundwork for investment includes not only the creation of a National Investment Commission, but rehabilitation of the energy infrastructure, development of the banking system, and most-importantly, capacity-building--the formation of functional governmental systems to enable development, research, and delivery of services to its citizens, as well as attract and process foreign investment. Over and over again in the interview, Ambassador Ries pointed to coalition efforts to teach basic governmental skills/mechanisms--everything from project management to industrial maintenance to funds distribution. Much is being done in these areas, and in many ways Iraq's economy is on the edge of a boom... a half-finished quilt in which solid and intricate squares await the national government to sew them into a larger and more functional entity.

In the meantime, the Provincial Reconstruction teams are not only reconstructing local infrastructure and business/agriculture, but teaching basic governmental skills and facilitating government functionality at the Province level. Early in the "surge," there were problems with staffing and distribution of the PRTs, but Ambassador Ries now points with obvious pride to the 25 PRTs operating throughout Iraq, "We tried to recast the way we work on civilian side to match/reinforce the strategy of the new way forward [counter-insurgency]." Five of the teams are based with provincial government, teaching and facilitating government function. The rest are called Embedded PRTs (ePRTs), and work hand-in-glove with coalition military forces. All teams are mixed civilian-military, comprised of State Department and USAID personnel, agriculture advisors, engineers, etc.

The province-based PRTs offer "lots of assistance" for local governments to help them effectively use the money they get from the federal government. Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq was a centrally-planned economy, and Ambassador Ries reports that before 2004 no money was allocated to provincial governments. Thus part of the PRTs' effort is focused on teaching project planning, acceptance of contact bids, etc.

Ambassador Ries describes the biggest role of the province-based PRTs as "de-bottlenecking problems." One example he gave was their "instrumental" role in in dealing with a cash-flow problem at the end of last year. Iraq is still a cash economy, and with the economic growth at the end of last year, Diyala Province developed a sudden and severe physical cash-flow problem. Iraqi Dinars are printed in London and must be carried by truck into Diyala. The Diyala PRT was able to use the State Department's connections and expertise to accelerate the printing and delivery of the Dinars. Ambassador Ries said that the PRT members were in constant contact with the treasury personnel at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, and "American expertise and connections made a noticeable difference in Diyala."

The cash-flow issue is indicative of what Ambassador Ries describes as "moving out of the bricks and mortar phase and towards capacity-building... trying to help the Iraqi government operate as a government." Efforts to provides services such as power, attract investment, develop banking, etc., is happening from the top-down in Baghdad while the ePRTs are operating with the military from the ground-up (typical counter-insurgency strategy).

The top-down and ground-up efforts meet at the still-jagged edge of foreign investment--of both money and expertise. So far, the economic rehabilitation is being driven by what Ambasssador Ries called "small-scale revival," retail development fueled by micro-grants/loans and the efforts of the ePRTs. Foreign investment and support of the banking sector are "needed to get to the next stage for lasting growth." This includes helping Iraqis tackle the big energy problems: attracting investments and developing more expertise in oil, and catching up with the demand for electricity. "Both are very large, difficult problems," says Ambassador Ries, which will "make a huge difference" once they are solved.

In part two, I’ll report on the groundwork and attempts to solve the "difficult problems" in detail, including energy infrastructure, the banking system, the labor force, sectors that are expected to drive Iraq’s economic growth, and the impressive man who will be the “go-to guy” for foreign investment in Iraq.

-- March 11, 2008 11:12 PM


Investor wrote:

On Iraq's Economic Development: Part II
Continuing my interview with Ambassador Charles Ries, the senior American heading up economic transition and development in Iraq...

[Note: as pointed out by the Ambassador, there were some errors in Part I (apparently this is what happens when one attempts to interview and write with a flu-addled brain--a lesson in humility for those of us who like to smack around the mainstream media). 1) 1.5 and 2 million barrels a day refers to exports, not total production. Total production is 2.5 million/day. 2) The new government agency in charge of investment is the National Investment Commission, not an Investment Ministry (though the "commissioner" will hold a rank equal to Minister). 3) Oil revenue-sharing is happening today; the issue at hand now is adding foreign investment into the mix.]

Iraq was a centrally-planned economy under Saddam, with a government-owned industrial base. Ambassador Ries reports Iraqis have a desire to open up to the private sector as they rebuild, but he is concerned that foreign investment could aggravate unemployment (presumably by bringing in foreign employees), which becomes a political factor. He says, "Iraq will always be a country that depends upon its world-class petroleum resources, but the trick is to get better production of those resources.” Getting that better production is only going to come through foreign investment, because a great influx of money is needed to "fix up the country after four decades of devastation."

But this is where it gets complicated...

In the Middle East, oil production is usually state-owned, as it was under Saddam. That means that the various regions (which tend to divide along sectarian lines) need to find a way to share oil revenue from foreign investment now that Saddam is no longer using it to build palaces, etc. This has long been a contentious issue, and it must be resolved for there to be a truly healthy economy in Iraq. It's a complicated mess, but the important point is that until it is resolved, work on Iraq's biggest oil-producing fields is managed by state-owned firms who do not have the resources to take full advantage of them... ultimately resulting in less income for Iraq and slowing down the country's rebuilding efforts.

The Kurdish areas in Northern Iraq have grown tired of waiting for the revenue-sharing issues to be resolved, and regional governments have signed exploration and production agreements with smaller foreign oil companies. The national government has retaliated by blocking Kurdish access to the national oil pipelines, so their oil has to be brought to the borders of Iraq by tankers, which is much slower and more expensive than pipelines. Meanwhile, major international companies stand by, waiting for a chance to to get at the major fields in the South in exchange for a percentage of the profits, as the politicians keep fighting. According to Ambassador Ries, with the proper resources for exploration and production, oil will power Iraq's economy... but not until the legislature finally resolves the profit-sharing problem.

The oil issues are certainly complicated, but they pale comparison to the electricity challenge. The good news is that production and reliability are up strongly. Ambassador Ries reports, "We are making progress on production. [We] set records last fall and continue to be well about 2007 rates now." The bad news is that demand is rising at nearly an equal rate, and the sanction-battered infrastructure can't keep up. As the ambassador points out, this results in a massive shortage for the average Iraqi, who then expresses a great deal of dissatisfaction with the national government.

"Progress is slow and painful," says Ambassador Ries, as it is estimated the national electrical system of Iraq is producing enough electricity to meet only about 55% of the demand. The challenges include a lack of well-trained professionals to run things, and provincial/regional bitterness that sometimes prevents cooperation. In some places in Baghdad, citizens receive only two to three hours of electricity from the national grid each day.

Ironically, it's the growth in the economy itself that causes much of this. As the economy has improved, people have purchased more electronic devices--from cell phones to air conditioners. Ambassador Ries reports that people will buy a new air conditioner as soon as they can afford it, then run it constantly whenever the national electrical grid is producing for their region... because electricity off the grid is free.

And then the regional conflicts come into play, fueled by Saddam's history of using access to energy as a reward or punishment. With every air conditioner running full blast on a warm day, or all the lights in the city turned on, national production can't keep up. So, Baghdad calls Basra (for example) and says, "You've gotta go offline or the entire system is going to crash. Basra says (figuratively), "Hell, no!" and the results are predictable. Relatedly, Ambassador Ries says there has not been a history of planning ahead or conducting proper maintenance to avoid unplanned blackouts--which is partially a legacy of the challenges of operating under the UN sanctions during Saddam's reign. Thus he reports a lot of effort has been spent on teaching electrical employees to recognize signs of problems and act to prevent them, and to plan for regular maintenance/repairs, all of which have contributed to higher production.

The bright spot in all this is that entrepreneurial Iraqis have begun stepping up to fill the void. People often pay to hook into a neighborhood generator that can supply their homes with the power they need for times when the national system fails, and sometimes business buy a generator and offer power to locals when the business is closed. These systems are starting to effect a change in peoples' attitudes. Ambassador Ries explains, The ultimate solution to the electrical supply problems "is to manage the system in a reasonable way in which people pay for energy that they obtain--to create an incentive structure" so that they don't over use it (since they have to pay for it) and no longer view it as an entitlement they fight each other over. Oil-rich countries tend to not have a tradition of paying market prices for energy because it's subsidized by the government, "but it [paying for energy] is starting to happen."

One area of the Iraq economy that has been quietly making steady progress is the banking sector. When Paul Bremer led the Coalition Provisional Authority in 2003, he set up The Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI) to finance trade imports and exports through letters of credit. It is state-owned and still the biggest bank in a nation that only has 29 banks, and in which two of the nine state-owned banks hold 90% of the money. However, diversification is beginning to have an impact. Local/private banks are now developing relationships with major international banks such as Citibank so that they can offer letters of credit, too. In fact, TBI now refers all letter of credit requests under $2 million to private-sector banks, who work mostly with banks in London and Amman. Of course, this is just the beginning of a nationwide, modern banking system. "We still need more investment in private banks, says Ambasssador Ries, "It's a gradual process" that will grow along with increased foreign investment in other sectors of the economy.

One aspect of the banking system that is growing by leaps and bounds is the electronic infrastructure. Until the last few months, all banking transactions in Iraq were done by paper. Now electronic funds connections exist between the six largest banks, including the central bank, and claims are settled daily against the central bank by electronic funds transfer. According to the Ambassador, the creation of a nationwide electronic banking infrastructure is in-progress and a very high priority.

On the transportation front, Ambassador Ries says things are progressing and there is a lot of activity. But as in other areas, there is still much to be done. The direct train from Basra to Baghdad has been recently re-opened, as have other routes, most of which include both passenger and freight lines. Air travel and airfreight are also coming online: the Mosul airport was open for the Haj last year, and other regional airports are currently being rehabilitated. Transportation will continue to strengthen as violence is reduced.

So, the oil sector awaits the opportunity to accept outside investment, the electrical grid is beginning to sort itself out, transportation is active and growing, and the banking sector is continuing to develop. It sounds like Iraq should be a good investment opportunity for those who aren't averse to a little risk for a big payoff, but where are the foreign investors? Not surprisingly, part of the answer goes back to the legislature.

In the third and final post on this interview, we'll finally get to the meat of things: where the opportunities are (including those being put forward by the Ministry of Industry), where the professional work force is, and who will be leading the way.

-- March 11, 2008 11:18 PM


Investor wrote:

On Iraq's Economic Development: Part III
Final installment of my interview with Ambassador Charles Ries, the senior American heading up economic transition and development in Iraq (click for Part I and Part II)...

According to Ambassador Ries, a healthy Iraqi economy will be built upon two major sectors (petro-chemical and agricultural), as well as the smaller sectors of tourism and light manufacturing. Growth and development of these areas will fuel Iraq's economic reconstruction and recovery.

The petrochemical sector awaits only the Hydrocarbon Law to open up opportunities to the large "outside" firms that will be able to explore, develop and produce in greater volume than currently. Though the details are still being worked out, this will involve companies getting a percentage of return on investment with the rest of the profits going to the Iraqi government. What the government does with those profits will in turn drive the rest of the country's economy.

However, agriculture is a strong second to oil. As the ambassador says, "Iraqi agriculture had been an economic powerhouse for millenia," built especially on irrigation canals from the valley between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. But like other sectors, it "suffered under the state planning mindset for many years," and is currently under-capitalized in terms of machinery and structures such as silos. However, nearly one-fourth of the Iraqi labor force still works in agriculture, and with the right governmental or private investment, Ambassador Ries says Iraq's river valley would rival the Imperial Valley of California.

In fact, the agricultural industry has been a priority during rebuilding, with currently $100 million set aside from USAID alone for developing what Ambassador Ries calls the "supporting ligaments" of the agricultural economy throughout Iraq--slaughterhouses to process animals, feed grain operations to support cattle farms, packing/canning plants for vegetables so that farmers can get a higher return by growing more and spreading it beyond their locale, etc. There are also "active programs of technical assistance to help the Agricultural Ministry develop extension offices" that will conduct research and education on most effective agricultural methods. And right now the military is assisting agri-businesses with the time-sensitive work of spraying date trees by rehabilitating the helicopters required to conduct the spraying.

Tourism is another money-maker for Iraq, as was demonstrated in the recent Shia religious pilgrimages, but Iraq is full of historically-significant sites and "holy places" sacred to both Muslims and Christians. Building the housing and related services to attract and accommodate tourists from around the world as security improves will both help to kick-start the Iraqi economy and contribute to a lasting foundation.

Iraq's non-petrochemical manufacturing sector is another smaller but important piece of the puzzle. There is room for factories that will produce products that are heavy (and thus costly to ship) or are particularly suited to Iraq's natural resources. For example, that ultra-fine sand that fouls weapons, irritates sensitive body parts and destroys computers is high-quality silica perfect for glass, production of which also happens to require the high volume of energy Iraq has available.

But much of this is in the future; so far, Iraq's economic growth outside of the oil sector has been driven largely by what Ambassador Ries calls "small-scale revivals," things like retail and other small businesses. To get to the next stage--lasting growth--foreign investment is required to fuel the large projects on which the future will be built.

So, where is the foreign investment?

Ambassador Ries explains, "There is very little foreign investment right now" because there is not yet a distinct person or location to which one can apply. The investment law in 2006 set the framework for foreign investment, envisioning a National Investment Commission, which "has been stood up, and a commissioner with the rank of minister has been nominated." Unfortunately, the legislature left town before approving him, as they are expected to do when they return.

However, Ambassader Ries is very enthusiastic about the nominee, Ahmed Ridha. Mr. Ridha is an Iraqi native with a PhD from UC Davis, who has been living in Dubai for a number of years. He also has a great deal of familiarity and contacts in the entire region. Says Ambassador Ries, "[He's a] very impressive guy. Every American who has met with him says ‘wow!’” Though not yet employed by the government, Mr. Ridha has been drawing up the regulations and procedures for processing and approval of investor applications an bids, etc. "He expects to hit the ground running after he is approved by the legislature... As soon as he is nominated, he will be going around the world and meeting with people to develop and encourage [foreign] investment."

In the meantime, the Ministry of Industry is trying to attract investment in state-owned enterprises. With US help, the ministry signed production sharing agreements last week with foreign investors for three state-owned cement factories. Due to infrastructure, management and supply problems, these factories have been operating at only 20%, despite the huge demand for cement for rebuilding efforts. Under the agreements, a foreign company will take over the factory, investing in improvements while supplying management and expertise. For 15 years, they will take on all costs of running the plant: materials, employees, etc. During that time, the government will receive 30-35% of the output to use in government projects or sell for a profit. Ambassador Ries describes it as similar to an equity partnership, but not quite; it's a new concept designed specifically to work under existing Iraqi law. The cement factories are a test case, and starting in April, six factory investment opportunities in the areas of electricity and petro-chemicals will be advertised.

One lingering concern for outside observers is what has been called the "brain drain." During the worst of the fighting from mid-2005 to mid 2007, there was what Ambassador Ries described as "a very significant exodus of refugees" to Jordan and Syria. Estimates range from 400,000 people in Jordan alone to up to 2,000,000 altogether. "Clearly... the technocrats were a lot of that group," especially in Jordan. "This has been a big problem in government performance." But now that security is improving, the Iraqi government is reaching out to attract these people back. In one case, they have doubled the salaries of doctors (of which it is estimated 50% were lost to the exodus), and substantially increased salaries for other health workers.

In general, while Ambassador Ries acknowledges the severity of the problem, he also seems very optimistic about its resolution. "As the security situation gets better, they [the educated elite] will come back and serve as an accelerant for economic growth." He acknowledges that "right now, the return is only a trickle and the country suffers from the absence of professionals," but he reports "Iraqis are quite nationalistic and do maintain links; the refugees are in touch with things that are happening here." For example, a number of the private businesses in Iraq are owned by those who haven't yet returned permanently. In the meantime they frequently come back to monitor their businesses. As things get better they spend more and more time in Iraq, and Ambassador Ries fully expects them to eventually return for good.

When I introduced this interview I pointed out that economy, security and politics are all inter-connected. Though not moving as fast as most participants would like, the government is making progress in creating the laws, entities, guidelines and procedures that will support economic development and investment. The improved security in wide swathes of the country enables people to turn their minds from bare survival to economic activity. And the economic development/growth builds communities that increase citizen satisfaction with their government and discourage disruptive activities or violence. A self-reinforcing cycle, it makes Iraq's economy an entity full of tremendous potential for citizens and outsiders alike. As the military leaders I've been interviewing are quick to note, things can still go wrong. But the trend is definitely upward, and there are many reasons for optimism about the future.

-- March 11, 2008 11:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Coalition Forces in Iraq Kill, Capture Terrorists Over Several Days' Operations
By American Forces Press Service
MichNews.com
Mar 11, 2008

WASHINGTON - Coalition forces killed two terrorists and detained nine suspects today during operations to disrupt al Qaeda networks in central and northern Iraq.

Coalition forces near Ad Dawr targeted the leader of a terror cell for the southern Karkh al Qaeda in Iraq network. Intelligence led coalition forces to a location where the wanted individual was believed to be operating. The ground force detained one suspect, who then provided information on the whereabouts of another alleged terrorist.

The ground force then conducted an operation in Baghdad where they targeted the alleged terrorist responsible for numerous attacks in the region for the Rusafa and Karkh al Qaeda networks. The ground force detained one suspect, who is believed to be a brother of the targeted individual. This suspect then led coalition forces to his brother's location. As the ground force arrived at the target building, they received small-arms fire and observed enemy personnel flee the area. The ground force located and detained one of the men, an alleged leader for the southern Karkh network responsible for numerous car-bomb attacks in the area.

The ground force engaged and killed two terrorists in a nearby alley. Coalition forces destroyed two vehicles on site they assessed were being equipped for car-bomb attacks. Also during the operation, an Iraqi child was wounded, treated on site and transported to a local medical facility for further care.

Northwest of Samarra, coalition forces detained two suspected terrorists while targeting an alleged al Qaeda leader involved in propaganda and media operations in Anbar province.

In Mosul, coalition forces captured an alleged al Qaeda cell leader. Nearby, two suspected terrorists were detained during operations targeting a close associate of a senior leader for the Mosul terrorist network.

"We will continue to dismantle terrorist networks that threaten the security of Iraq by deliberately placing innocent women and children in danger by their actions and presence," said Navy Lt. Michael Street, a Multinational Force Iraq spokesman. "We regret when civilians are hurt while coalition forces search to rid Iraq of these terrorists."

In yesterday's operations:

-- Northeast of Balad, coalition forces detained three suspected terrorists while targeting an alleged explosives facilitator connected to the Baghdad al Qaeda network. Coalition forces also discovered 30 bags of urea, a component for homemade explosives, in one of the target buildings.

-- Near Taji, coalition forces detained another 10 suspects during an operation targeting an alleged associate of the senior leader for the northern-belt al Qaeda network. "Al Qaeda's indiscriminate violence has no place in Iraq's future," said Navy Capt. Vic Beck, a Multinational Force Iraq spokesman. "While a tough fight remains ahead of us, Iraqi and coalition forces will continue take the fight to al Qaeda, keeping the terrorists on the defensive and diminishing their ability to attack innocent civilians."

-- Northwest of Samarra, coalition forces conducted an operation targeting an alleged al Qaeda in Iraq leader involved in propaganda operations for the network in Anbar province. As coalition forces arrived in the area, they received enemy fire from four individuals departing the target building and moving into a nearby field. The ground force killed the four armed terrorists and found various equipment and weapons, including four military-style assault vests, machine guns, ammunition and magazines, bomb-making materials, and medical supplies. The forces found and destroyed two other weapons caches in the area, and a suicide bomber detonated his vest, killing himself but not wounding any coalition forces.

-- Also in Mosul, another three suspects were detained during a separate operation targeting a senior leader for the city's al Qaeda network.

-- Northeast of Balad, coalition forces targeted an alleged al Qaeda associate involved in facilitating foreign terrorists and smuggling weapons and bomb-making materials. Intelligence reports led coalition forces to a location where an al Qaeda meeting was believed to occur, and four suspected terrorists were detained. Coalition forces killed four terrorists and detained two others attempting to flee the area.

-- During another operation nearby, coalition forces targeted an alleged foreign-terrorist facilitator and associate of the wanted individual from the previous operation. Four terrorists were captured and one was killed in the operation. The building and two vehicles were destroyed to prevent their further use by terrorists.

-- In Mosul, coalition forces detained two suspected terrorists, including an alleged al Qaeda associate operating in the southeastern region of the city.

--Northeast of Samarra near the Hamrin Mountains, coalition forces conducted two multi-day operations that ended yesterday that targeted an alleged safe haven for an al Qaeda kidnapping cell. During the operations, the ground force detained nine suspects and discovered various terrorist propaganda materials and three weapons caches, including several machine guns, rifles, ammunition magazines and military-style assault vests, which were destroyed on site.

"Our untiring efforts to remove al Qaeda from Iraq reach into every corner of the country," said Army Lt. Col. Maura Gillen, a Multinational Force Iraq spokeswoman. "We will continue to target and attack their networks, degrading their ability to attack the Iraqi people and the security forces that protect them."

In March 8 operations:

-- Northeast of Balad, coalition forces detained four suspects during an operation targeting an alleged al Qaeda associate involved in facilitating foreign terrorists and smuggling weapons and IED materials.

-- East of Baghdad, coalition forces detained two suspected terrorists including an alleged associate of the northern al Qaeda in Iraq network. Coalition forces called for the occupants of the building to come out, but one terrorist occupant did not comply with directions or heed warnings. The coalition force engaged the terrorist, killing him.

-- Near Taji, coalition forces captured an alleged associate of an al Qaeda advisor for the southern-belt network. The suspect reportedly is connected to numerous members of the network, including the senior leader. The southern-belt network is operating in a degraded state after suffering a significant loss of key leaders as a result of coalition operations, U.S. military officials said. Another suspected terrorist was also detained.

-- In Beiji and southwestern Mosul, coalition forces detained four suspected terrorists while targeting financial and foreign-terrorist facilitators for al Qaeda. "These operations are further examples of Iraqi and coalition force success against al Qaeda in Iraq senior leaders and their networks," said Army Col. Don Bacon, a Multinational Force Iraq spokesman. "We're continuously pressuring the terrorists, finding the places they hide, disrupting their operations, and improving overall security for the Iraqi people."

-- U.S. soldiers detained three suspected insurgents during early-morning operations in Baghdad's Rashid district. One of the detainees is linked to numerous indirect-fire and improvised-explosive-device attacks in the area.

-- U.S. soldiers confiscated a weapons cache during operations near Joint Security Station Tarmiyah, north of Baghdad. The munitions seized included SK5 rockets, PG7 rockets, type-69 rockets, 160 mm mortars, 120 mm mortars, rocket-propelled-grenade launchers, projectiles, Iraqi hand grenades, and various other munitions and weapons. An explosive ordnance disposal team blew up the munitions and weapons.

Earlier, Iraqi residents of Sikek, a village southwest of Mosul, turned over a weapons cache to Iraqi and U.S. police March 7. A joint patrol of Iraqi and U.S. military police discovered a number of 90 mm mortars. "Finding and confiscating these weapons caches continue to reduce the availability and capability of the insurgent's supplies," said Army Maj. Mike Indovina, an 18th Military Police Brigade spokesman.

(Compiled from Multinational Force Iraq and Multinational Corps Iraq news releases.)

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19648.shtml

-- March 12, 2008 12:58 AM


BritishKnite wrote:

Roger, I bet the tax man is rubbing his hands together in anticipation of you bringing over more money for his coiffers. The economy needs it!

-- March 12, 2008 1:55 AM


Roger wrote:

BritishKnite,

Wouldn't worry too much for that, it's taxed money out, and the same money back, but when, and if the big profits starts to come, that is the real Tax challenge.

First, part of the operation is set, the money is made over there, outside of US soil, and I am not that sure I want to bring it back once done.

Once the point arrives, where (hopefully) a lot of money is done, I for sure will need some professional help at that point in time.

For now, well lets see if it is taking off in the first place, all the indicators are there now, so lets just hang in for the ride from here on out.

-- March 12, 2008 3:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi leaders urge support at Erbil Arab Inter-Parliamentary Union conference

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Erbil, 12 March 2008 (KRG)
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The Arab Inter-Parliamentary Union (AIPU) conference opened today in Erbil, capital of the Kurdistan Region in Iraq.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani welcomed the parliamentary delegates from 18 Arab countries. He said, "This conference is an exceptional event that will enhance Iraqi-Arab relations." He added, "We are pleased to have you in Erbil, the Northern gateway to the new federal, democratic and unified Iraq."

With Iraq scheduled to host the AIPU, Erbil was selected as host-city for its record of safety and security.

President Talabani said that the progress experienced in Iraq today was the result of concerted military action coupled with great political cooperation and national reconciliation. He pledged that efforts by the parliamentary blocs, the Presidency Council and the Council of Ministers would continue.

He said, "We are building a new country for Arabs, Kurds, Chaldeans, Assyrians, the religious and the secular, for all sects and ethnicities and we are pleased that you are joining us and showing solidarity with our cause."

Dr Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, Speaker of the Council of Representatives (Iraq's parliament), said, "We ask for the support of our Arab brothers as we face internal, regional and international economic and political challenges. While we continue to fight against terrorism we also focus on human rights, civil society and economic development."

In a meeting yesterday at the Kurdistan National Assembly, Dr Mashhadani called for the governments of Arab countries to more actively support Iraq's reconstruction and development efforts. Few Arab countries currently maintain embassies in Baghdad or full diplomatic relations with Iraq.

Mr Abdulhadi Al-Majali, Presdient of the AIPU, welcomed the assembled parliamentary delegates and expressed his hope that the conference would help forge strong ties between the assembled countries. Mr Nuraddin Boshkuj, Secretary General of the AIPU, thanked President Talabani, President Barzani and the Kurdistan Regional Government for hosting the conference and welcomed the delegates to the "beautiful city of Erbil."

Also attending the opening session at Erbil Convention Centre were Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani; Kurdistan Region Vice President; Speaker of the Kurdistan National Assembly and his Deputy; two Deputy Speakers of the Iraqi Council of Representatives; the KRG's Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, and members of the diplomatic community.

This 50th session of the 13th AIPU conference will run until 14 March. Representatives from 18 Arab countries are taking part. The AIPU conference meets once every two years to deal with common issues and to adopt and amends the union's statutes.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 12, 2008 9:55 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bush says US vote won't shape Iraq withdrawal
US president determined to stay course in Iraq, shows no regret over five-year old invasion.

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NASHVILLE, Tennessee, 12 March 2008 (Middle East Online)
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Bush: 'the politics of 2008 is not going to enter into my calculation'
US President George W. Bush on Tuesday promised cheering supporters that he would not risk "reversible" gains in Iraq with a troop withdrawal plan tied to the November US elections.

"I want to assure you -- just like I assure military families and the troops -- the politics of 2008 is not going to enter into my calculation, it is the peace of years to come that will enter into my calculation," he pledged to a Christian broadcasters association.

Bush made no mention of just-begun talks in Baghdad aimed at forging a long-term security partnership deal between the United States and Iraq by July, well before the US president's term ends in January 2009.

The president's Democratic foes have denounced the potential pact as an effort to tie his successor's hands. The White House and Iraqi officials say it is necessary because the UN mandate for the US presence expires at year's end.

Bush, his approval ratings slumped at near-record lows, pointed to US troop draw-downs scheduled to occur by July and denied that political pressure was playing any role in US force levels in war-torn Iraq.

"They're not coming home based upon defeat, or based upon opinion polls, or based upon focus groups, or based upon politics, they're coming home because we're successful," he said, to thunderous applause.

Bush's speech here to the National Religious Broadcasters was billed as the first in a public relations offensive leading up to an early April progress report from the top US military and diplomatic officials in Iraq.

"The gains in Iraq are tenuous, they're reversible, and they're fragile and there is much more work to be done. This enemy is resilient" he warned ahead of the testimony from General David Petraeus and US Ambassador Ryan Crocker.

"I will carefully consider their recommendations," on US troop levels, said Bush, who ordered some 30,000 more US forces to Iraq in January 2007 in an escalation widely known as a military "surge."

"I strongly believe the surge is working and so do the Iraqis," he said, pointing to lower rates of sectarian killings and setbacks for members of Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Democrats hope to harness deep US public anger at the war -- now on the eve of entering its sixth year -- to recapture the White House and widen their majorities in the Senate and House of Representatives.

But Bush mounted an unapologetic defense of the March 2003 US-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, which turned into an open-ended occupation currently comprising some 162,000 US troops.

"The decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision early in my presidency. It is the right decision in this point in my presidency, and it will forever be the right decision," he said to thunderous, sustained applause.

Bush made no mention of his pre-war claims that Saddam possessed vast caches of weapons of mass destruction and close-enough ties to Al-Qaeda that he might pass his arsenal to the terrorists behind the September 11, 2001 attacks.

"The Iraqi people have begun to see what freedom offers. They've seen what the enemy plans. And they have chosen to stand on the side of freedom. And America stands with them," he said.

Bush's speech to a traditional support base for his Republicans came as fears about the US economy have trumped the war in Iraq as the top issue on US voters minds.

The National Religious Broadcasters official Internet site said the group has 1,400 members and "exists to represent the Christian broadcasters' right to communicate the Gospel of Jesus Christ to a lost and dying world."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 12, 2008 9:57 AM


Sara wrote:

No Connection??? HUH??

Rob N;

About that last post which states, QUOTE:

"Bush made no mention of his pre-war claims that Saddam possessed vast caches of weapons of mass destruction and close-enough ties to Al-Qaeda that he might pass his arsenal to the terrorists behind the September 11, 2001 attacks."

Do you remember the ABC tapes of Saddam?

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Additionally, tapes with Saddam speaking on them also surfaced and certain sinister remarks Saddam made on the tapes were translated which showed that he threatened to use WMD on Washington, DC. In the article , "Saddam Translator: ABC Reinterpreted Tapes" dated Feb. 17th 2006, the FBI translator who supplied the 12 hours of Saddam Hussein audiotapes excerpted by ABC's "Nightline" says the network discarded his translations and went with a less threatening version of the Iraqi dictator's comments. In the "Nightline" version of the 1996 recording, Saddam predicts that Washington, D.C., would be hit by terrorists. But he adds that Iraq would have nothing to do with the attack. Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity. In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?"

Another of the documents show that Saddam ordered suicide attacks on the US, which then, within a year, could have become nuclear. In the article "Saddam Ordered Suicide Attacks on U.S. Targets" dated April 6th 2006, it states, "A newly translated document from Saddam Hussein's intelligence files indicates that the Iraqi dictator ordered suicide attacks against U.S. targets six months before the 9/11 attacks." [62]

Also, there was another document discovered proving that Saddam was intending to attack London in this article "Saddam was training terrorists for attacks in London" dated March 27th 2006 - "Among the documents released last week was a translation of a three-page Iraqi Intelligence memo regarding a wave of attacks to be conducted by the Saddam Fedayeen.According to those orders, the Fedayeen Saddam was "to start planning from now on to perform special operations (assassinations/bombings) for the centers and the traitor symbols in the fields of (London/Iran/self-ruled areas) and for coordination with the Intelligence service to secure deliveries, accommodations, and target guidance."" [63]

The UK government Feb 18, 2008 released an early draft of its controversial dossier on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, after losing a bid to keep it secret. The government has always maintained Williams' paper was not relevant as the final dossier was the work of its intelligence agencies. The dossier, quote: "concentrates on allegations that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein's regime had acquired uranium, retained the ability to manufacture chemical and biological weapons and was developing long-range missiles." Even the UK's opposition Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Edward Davey conceded that, "The core analysis of the threat allegedly posed by Iraq is the same in both documents."

Apart from whether Iraq could have launched WMD in a short time frame, the core analysis shows ample reason and justification for beginning Operation Iraqi Freedom - including weapons grade uranium, the ability to launch long-range missiles at Western allies and the ability to manufacture at will chemical and biological weapons. Saddam was a WMD threat with malicious intent and although how close to launching such attacks he was remains in question, the fact he was one year from aquiring the bomb and was calling for attacks and agents to be in place (in the West) while developing missiles to deliver these weapons against allied Western targets, figured strongly in the case for war.

In the article The proof that Saddam worked with bin Laden dated 27/04/2003 The Telegraph claimed to have found Iraqi intelligence documents in Baghdad which "provided evidence of a direct link between Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terrorist network and Saddam Hussein's regime." It went on to state, "Papers found yesterday in the bombed headquarters of the Mukhabarat, Iraq's intelligence service, reveal that an al-Qa'eda envoy was invited clandestinely to Baghdad in March 1998. The documents show that the purpose of the meeting was to establish a relationship between Baghdad and al-Qa'eda based on their mutual hatred of America and Saudi Arabia. The meeting apparently went so well that it was extended by a week and ended with arrangements being discussed for bin Laden to visit Baghdad. Intriguingly, the Iraqis talk about sending back an oral message to bin Laden, perhaps aware of the risk of a written message being intercepted." The article ends, "The file contradicts the that there was no link between the Iraqi regime and al-Qa'eda." [72] Additional citations of the documentation are given by The Telegraph in their article titled, "'We'll pay all expenses to gain the knowledge from bin Laden and convey a message back" which is a quote from the documentation itself.[73] The intelligence documents are again cited by a Canadian eyewitness source in "Saddam, bin Laden link found: Canadian reporter" [74]

It is noteworthy that under President Clinton, reported in February of 1999, the article (still available to view on the net) titled, "Saddam link to Bin Laden" - Terror chief 'offered asylum' in Iraq? The article states, "Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition officials. The key meeting took place in the Afghan mountains near Kandahar in late December. News of the negotiations emerged in a week when the US attorney general, Janet Reno, warned the Senate that a terrorist attack involving weapons of mass destruction was a growing concern. "There's a threat, and it's real," Ms Reno said, adding that such weapons "are being considered for use." US embassies around the world are on heightened alert as a result of threats believed to emanate from followers of Bin Laden, who has been indicted by a US court for orchestrating the bombing last August of embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in which 259 people died. US delegations in Africa and the Gulf have been shut down in recent weeks after credible threats were received. In this year's budget, President Clinton called for an additional $2 billion to spend on counter-terrorist measures... Ahmed Allawi, a senior member of the opposition Iraqi National Congress (INC), based in London, said he had heard reports of the December meeting which he believed to be accurate. "There is a long history of contacts between Mukhabarat [Iraqi secret service] and Osama bin Laden," he said. Mr Hijazi, formerly director of external operations for Iraqi intelligence offered Mr bin Laden asylum in Iraq, most likely in return for co-operation in launching attacks on US and Saudi targets." [75]

Bin Laden was a threat to the United States at the time Saddam was in power and his efforts have been ongoing in terrorism since Saddam's regime was toppled. His plots have included targeting the United States as disclosed May 22, 2007 in the article "White House says bin Laden ordered Iraq plots" where it cites newly declassified intelligence which states, "Osama bin Laden ordered al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, to form a cell in 2005 to plot attacks outside of Iraq and make the United States his main target. Townsend said that in the spring of 2005 bin Laden also told Hamza Rabia, then al Qaeda's top operations man, to brief Zarqawi on the group's "external operations planning, including homeland plots (targeting the United States)." [76]

SEE: The Saddam Connection To Osama by ABC News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWFWCg1BdRg

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http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction

http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Saddam.27s_Links_to_Al_Qaeda

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NBC Claimed Bush Allowed Al-Qaeda in Iraq Before War, Media Now Ignore Pre-War Presence
By Brad Wilmouth
February 29, 2008

While it is currently conventional wisdom in the media that there was no Al-Qaeda presence in Iraq before the 2003 invasion, as evidenced by the media's failure to correct Barack Obama's recent claim that "there was no such thing as Al-Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq," for several years dating back before the Iraq invasion, there have been media reports of former Al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's connections to Osama bin Laden, and his use of Iraq as a base to plot terror attacks against other countries before the war. In fact, four years ago, the NBC Nightly News claimed not only that there was an Al-Qaeda presence in Iraq before the invasion, busy plotting attacks against Europe, but that the Bush administration intentionally "passed up several opportunities" to attack terrorist bases in Iraq "long before the war" in 2002 because of fear it would "undercut its case" for overthrowing Saddam Hussein. (Transcripts follow)

On the March 2, 2004 NBC Nightly News, Tom Brokaw introduced the report: "[Abu Musab al-Zarqawi] is widely believed to have ties to Al-Qaeda, and the Bush administration apparently passed up several opportunities to take him out well before the Iraq war began."

And on the January 27, 2003 NBC Nightly News, after revelations of a plot to attack targets in Europe with the poison ricin, which was believed to have been hatched by Zarqawi in Iraq, correspondent Jim Miklaszewski reported that "U.S. Special Forces had plans to launch a covert raid against the Kirmadara complex [in northern Iraq], but Pentagon officials say it was called off because the Bush administration feared it would interfere with upcoming UN weapon inspections."

Although some have tried to argue that Zarqawi did not declare allegiance to bin Laden's Al-Qaeda organization until after the Iraq invasion, as far back as April 4 and May 16, 2001, AP's Jamal Halaby reported that Jordanian authorities suspected Zarqawi, also known as Ahmad Fadeel Al-Khalayleh, of plotting attacks in Jordan, and relayed that Zarqawi was "believed to be in Afghanistan."

On November 9, 2002, a London Times article by Roger Boyes and Daniel McGrory, citing Hans-Josef Beth of the German secret service BND, claimed that Zarqawi "used London as his base until Osama bin Laden ordered him to move to Afghanistan in 2000 to run one of al-Qaeda's training camps."

On December 18, 2002, after the arrests of several terror suspects in France amid fears of a chemical weapon attack, Sebastian Rotella of the Los Angeles Times reported that "A top Al Qaeda suspect said to be commanding a campaign targeting Europe is Abu Musab Zarqawi, a Jordanian reputedly knowledgeable about chemical warfare, according to German and Italian intelligence officials."

On December 19, 2002, Knight Ridder's Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson reported, citing Jordanian Prime Minister Ali Abu al Ragheb, that Zarqawi was behind the murder of American diplomat Lawrence Foley, and was believed to be "an ally of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden." Ragheb further contended that Zarqawi "was probably in northern Iraq working with Ansar al-Islam, a Kurdish Muslim extremist group." Jordanian officials were also cited as claiming that the men suspected of carrying out Foley's murder met Zarqawi "in Al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan."

Months before the Iraq invasion, on January 7, 2003, after revelations of a ricin terror plot targeting London was uncovered, NBC's Miklaszewski contended that U.S. officials "report that Islamic extremists tied to al-Qaeda had produced ricin in a terrorist lab at Kirma in the Kurdish-controlled area of northern Iraq."

On the February 9, 2004, World News Tonight on ABC, correspondent Brian Ross relayed reports that Zarqawi "fled the U.S. bombing of Al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan and moved on to Iran and then into Iraq," and, referring to the same ricin terror plot, further contended that "intelligence officials in Britain and France say Zarqawi also had a hand in a thwarted plan to use the chemical poison ricin, produced by his followers in northern Iraq."

On the April 26, 2004 Nightline, in light of the revelation of a bomb plot targeting Amman, Jordan, ABC's Chris Bury described Zarqawi as "a long-time associate of Osama bin Laden," and correspondent Michel Martin contended that Zarqawi "ran a camp for Jordanian recruits in Afghanistan."

On the September 26, 2004 edition of CBS's 60 Minutes, Ben Bradley, citing Jordanian terror expert Oraib al-Rantawi, contended that, following his release from a Jordanian prison in 1999, Zarqawi left the country and "went to Pakistan and Afghanistan where he trained with al-Qaeda and then set up his own training camp."

And on the May 1, 2007 The O'Reilly Factor on FNC, a clip of which was replayed on the February 28, 2008 show, former CIA director George Tenet argued that after Zarqawi left Afghanistan, "he shows up in Baghdad in May of 2002" and "creates a safe haven for Al-Qaeda" in northern Iraq with the terror group Ansar al-Islam.

All three of the February 27, 2008 broadcast evening newscasts reported on the exchange between John McCain and Barack Obama over Al-Qaeda's presence in Iraq, as McCain picked up on Obama's missatement from Tuesday's debate that seemed to assume Al-Qaeda was not currently in Iraq. McCain: "I have some news. Al-Qaeda is in Iraq. It's called 'Al-Qaeda in Iraq.'"

Each show then played a clip of Obama claiming that "there was no such thing as Al-Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq," but did not clarify that, while eventual Al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Zarqawi had not yet publicly coined that name for his terror group before the invasion, there has been plenty of reason to believe that Zarqawi not only was already in Iraq using it as a base of operations, but was already associated with bin Laden.

See url for the transcripts of relevant portions of the Wednesday February 27, 2008 CBS Evening News, NBC Nightly News, and ABC's World News with Charles Gibson, followed by the relevant March 2, 2004 story by Jim Miklaszewski from the NBC Nightly News:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/29/nbc-claimed-bush-allowed-al-qaeda-iraq-war-media-now-ignore-pre-war-p
Comments

1) The evolution of politics by KC Mulville

MB, we're witnessing the "evolution" of politics, like wrestling evolved.

Wrestling used to be a respectable sport. On the college level, it still is. However, at some point among professionals, the event stopped being a real competition and disintegrated into a series of staged posturing. The posturing made better TV than the sport, so out went the sport.

Obama is bringing a similar wave. The substance of politics (i.e., reasonable proposals to address real-life problems) is giving way to mere posturing. It no longer matters that Obama has no new policies, other than the socialistic-liberal policies that have been rejected in the past. What matters is that Obama is posturing as if he had new policies, and the MSM treats that as “good enough.” As long as he talks the talk, that’s all he needs. Walking the walk is just an annoyance.

Obama is a complete lightweight. His foreign policy amounts to apologizing for Bush, and “hoping” that the world will like us. His domestic policy is to feel our pain, and tax the rich. Rich = evil. (There’s a successful strategy, wouldn’t you say?) His social policy is anyone can do anything they want (except make money of course).

But he can strut, as if he had something. And the MSM eats it up.

2) I think that one of the by USA4freedom

I think that one of the things that frustrate me the most is the blatant repeat of lies. NYT, CBS, MSMBC etc. etc..

It seems like now that Fox and the internet is around, that the left in the MSM can go full bore with out even pretending that they are journalists rather then the propagandists that they are.

They will repeat lies over and over fore example: Tax cuts for the rich, line over and over and over and over.. When the top 10% carry 2/3 of the load. OR..

Some how we got into Iraq with out any help from the Democrats. That somehow magically our troops got dropped in Iraq via Bush without a vote or any say so by anyone with a “D” next to their name.

But the MSM just pounds it non-stop and the general public just laps it up.

I was talking to some guy the other day while pouring liquid gold into my diesel F250, (he looked intelligent), drove a nice car, had all of his teeth, but the things that came out of his mouth sounded like every DNC talking point, it started with its Bush’s and Halliburton’s fault that gas is so expensive, then tax cuts to the rich, (we need to cut that out..) to Bush is responsible for terror, to we need to take guns away from every one..

The combination of stupid people, the MSM with the Republican party that: is doing every thing to piss the base off. It makes me feel like Sisiphys rolling the rock back up the hill just to watch it roll back down again, and again, and again.

Oh yea, it seems the fence is going a “little slower then they predicted..” roll the stone back up the hill...

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

3) Your experience is similar by pbanks7

Your experience is similar to mine, but every day. The libtards don't even want to hear anything that doesn't fit their emotion-based, fact-deficient mindset. That's why I have a sign on my door that says:

IGNORANCE IS BLISS. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.

I have a bulletin board with facts and needling slogans guaranteed to piss em off. They shake their heads when I explain the graph showing the 44% increase in tax revenues since the "Bush tax cuts for the rich." My current faves are the baby crying, "Help! I'm a Democrat human shield." and, "Monica Lewinski's ex-boyfriend's wife for president."

4) Revisionism at its best... by Thalpy

Revisionism at its best can always be found on or in the msm. Mainstream media have been and will remain irresponsible news sources, unworthy of our attention. The electorate of the United States cannot make proper choices based on the quality of the information provided be television and print news. Uncle Wally's "insightful" analysis is proof of that.

5) Which is it? by Iowa Boy

Either there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until after President Bush invaded Iraq or there was al-Qaida in Iraq and President Bush ignored them before invading Iraq.

It's true, liberalism is not affected by facts but accepted soley on faith. It really is a religion.

6) It's "all of the above." by motherbelt

It's "all of the above." LOL

7) I take solace in the fact by Free Thinker

I take solace in the fact that the msm, regardless of how much they try to rewrite historical facts, ultimately will be long forgotten when history records the actual facts. Obama is clearly not cut out to be PROTUS and gaffs like this one are embarrassing regardless of the cover the msm will try to give him.

-- March 12, 2008 12:17 PM


Sara wrote:

B-1B destroys al-Qaida torture compound in Iraq
by Tech. Sgt. Joel Langton
Air Forces Central Public Affairs

3/12/2008 - ZAMBRANIYAH, Iraq (AFPN) -- A B-1B Lancer aircrew destroyed an al-Qaida torture compound and prison with six guided bomb unit-38 Joint Direct Attack Munitions at 2:07 p.m. March 10 in Zenbaraniyah.

The bombing marked a change of fortunes for the village, where local villagers began standing up to the terrorists a little more than a month ago in the former al-Qaida hotbed south of Baghdad.

The 500-pound-class Global Positioning System-guided bombs struck the torture compound in a coordinated effort with Multi-National Division - Center officials and Iraqi forces.

"This (airstrike) removes the last remnants of al-Qaida from this area," said Army Lt. Col. Mark Solomon, the 6th Squadron, 8th Cavalry Squadron commander.

The compound consisted of three buildings along with several small shelters near the back of the compound. The facilities had been used for torture, with handcuffs hooked to the walls with bare wires plugged into outlets nearby. Several of the walls were blood splattered. There were also several interrogation manuals Soldiers found when they captured the compound.

One community member, who escaped from the facility, said it was a new day for the village as he looked into the bomb's craters.

"We all feel good," Aubid Abdalla said. "It's a dark past that is gone."

Mr. Abdalla, a former Iraqi army intelligence officer, was encouraging local citizens to give coalition efforts a chance, when he was kidnapped. He spent 15 days in the facility and saw a young boy and an old man killed while he was held prisoner.

Less than an hour afterward, after the B-1B's precision deliveries destroyed the al-Qaida torture facilities, Mr. Abdalla said the event had changed him.

"I'm a lot happier now," he said. "It was like my mother gave birth to me again."

Senior Airman Joseph Aton, a joint terminal attack controller assigned to Fort Hood, Texas, directed the final clearance in the B-1B's deliberate JDAM weapons delivery process.

"It was great to be part of this," Airman Aton said. "You can tell the people were happy to have this place gone and it was awesome to make a difference for them."

The effort was a joint effort between officials from the Multi-National Division-Center, the Combined Forces Air Component commander's Combined Air and Space Operations Center, the 9th Air Expeditionary Task Forces Air Expeditionary Wing, which flies the B-1B in the area of responsibility and Sons of Iraq, who helped provide security.

As coalition forces left the area, villagers stood on the side of the road cheering and clapping to be rid of this remnant of al-Qaida.

http://www.ellsworth.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123089877&page=1

-- March 12, 2008 1:07 PM


BrtishKnite wrote:

Roger, I read your post about the dinar rising slightly in value. I was wondering if it was because it is worth more, or was it a response to the Fed flooding the markets with more greenbacks, therefore cheapening the dollar? I'm inclined to think the latter.

-- March 12, 2008 5:22 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

I see Forbes have published their annual billionaire's list:

http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/05/richest-people-billionaires-billionaires08-cx_lk_0305billie_land.html

Bill Gates is the 3rd richest man on the planet. Obviously he is not giving it away quick enough! Later this year, he will step down as head of Microsoft to focus on the foundation that he and his wife, Melinda, set up. He's been giving millions away for years. Warren Buffett contributes to it also. So, again, they can't rid of it fast enough! I think I read a few years ago that Warren Buffett wanted to leave the worlds largest charity donation after he passes on.

I wonder if the dinar or dinar related stock investments will create any billionaires in the future when it revals in the next 40-50 years? Will they appear on the Forbes list? Something to aim for.

Until then, we can see how we fair in the world. This website, Global Rich list, apparently uses data from the World Bank:

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Have fun with it. By the way, there's no dinar currency in it!

-- March 12, 2008 5:45 PM


Sara wrote:

As you all know, I believe that McCain will be the next President.. and I was wondering how that will happen.
Here is one very interesting gleaning I saw on the question in an article posted today. It states:

Looking toward the general election, labor strategists were alarmed by polls and focus groups of undecided union members that showed McCain doing well in match-ups with either Democratic candidate.

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Democrats seek to strengthen grip on blue-collar workers
Labor groups fear that both of their flashy presidential candidates could lose support of so-called 'Reagan Democrats' to McCain.
By Janet Hook and Tom Hamburger, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
March 12, 2008

WASHINGTON -- -- With two celebrity-class candidates, Democrats have seen their presidential contest draw record voter turnout and an influx of Latinos and younger Americans to the party. But some are becoming concerned that the party now risks losing its hold on a more established set of needed supporters: blue-collar workers.

The fears are strong enough that the AFL-CIO today will announce a multimillion-dollar campaign to discredit Republican candidate John McCain among union households and attempt to link him to President Bush's unpopular economic policies.

A separate labor-backed group, the Campaign to Defend America, has launched a television ad portraying McCain as "McSame as Bush" on issues including the Iraq war, economics and energy policy. The spot ends with a picture of the two men embracing.

It is all part of a preemptive effort to stem battleground-state defections by union households and other working-class voters known as Reagan Democrats -- swing voters who have been courted by both parties ever since they tipped the balance for Ronald Reagan in the 1980 presidential election.

"That vote is up for grabs," said David Bonior, campaign manager for John Edwards' failed Democratic presidential bid. "We will have to work incredibly hard," he said, to blunt McCain's potential appeal to working-class voters, which is based on his status as a war hero and his reputation as a political moderate.

The AFL-CIO became concerned after polls and focus groups found considerable willingness among union members to consider supporting McCain, regardless of which Democrat won the nomination.

Republicans have signaled that they have the Reagan Democrats at the top of their target list. Ken Mehlman, a former GOP national chairman who is informally advising McCain, said the campaign's blue-collar outreach would attract Reagan Democrats for the same reason the former president did: McCain is seen as frank, a good leader, strong on defense and opposed to tax increases.

Some analysts say the threat of defections to McCain will be particularly acute if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee. In many of this year's caucuses and primaries, Obama has lost working-class white voters to rival Hillary Rodham Clinton. Holding on to those voters in swing states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania will be one key to the party's efforts in November against McCain, the presumed GOP nominee.

"The Obama campaign has not been very successful in connecting with middle-aged, older, white working-class voters," said Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic pollster who has done work for the AFL-CIO and is not affiliated with any candidate. "It is very important for them to understand why that is so because those are the kinds of voters who have been swing voters in the last two general elections."

Looking toward the general election, labor strategists were alarmed by polls and focus groups of undecided union members that showed McCain doing well in match-ups with either Democratic candidate, said Karen Ackerman...

Brooke Buchanan, a spokeswoman for the McCain campaign, said, "Reagan Democrats support low taxes and less regulation, which Sen. McCain's record has consistently supported."

Blue-collar workers are especially important to court because they make up the group most likely to switch party allegiance, Garin said.

Bonior argued that Obama has had trouble winning that constituency -- a problem he shares with past Democratic candidates John F. Kerry, Al Gore and Michael S. Dukakis.

"He has an academic approach to politics that doesn't go well with Reagan Democrats," said Bonior, a former House member whose Michigan district was a bastion of such voters.

In Ohio, exit polls found that Clinton won by double-digit margins among less-educated voters and union members. A key question is whether those voters would switch allegiance in November to Obama if he won the party's nomination or be lured to the McCain camp.

"When the discussion is on the economy, we feel confident we can move voters our way," said Mike Podhorzer, deputy political director of the AFL-CIO.

"When it is about Iraq and foreign policy, we are less confident."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-dems12mar12,1,387792.story

-- March 12, 2008 7:41 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain moves to the lead in Michigan, tied in Pennsylvania
March 12, 2008
Ed Morrissey

So far, the burden of the early clincher hasn’t done much to damage John McCain. In a sign that the increasingly bitter Democratic primary campaign may provide some assistance to the Republican nominee, Rasmussen shows McCain ahead of both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in the normally blue state of Michigan. And in worse news, McCain has pulled even in Pennsylvania as well
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In Michigan, John McCain has a very modest advantage over both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton during the early stages of Election 2008. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found McCain leading Clinton 46% to 43% and Obama 44% to 41%.

McCain leads both Democrats by double digits among men and trails by single digits among women. …

Michigan has cast its Electoral College votes for the Democrats in four straight Presidential elections and it would be difficult for Obama or Clinton to reach the White House without carrying the state. However, the economically devastated state has been trending Republican in recent elections—Bill Clinton won Michigan by thirteen points in 1996, Al Gore won by five in 2000, and John Kerry won by just three points in 2004.

===end quote==

In Pennsylvania, the news gets bad for Obama. He had a 10-point lead over McCain a month ago in Pennsylvania as well as the eight-point lead in Michigan. His favorable ratings have dropped nine points, and now he trails McCain by a single point in the Keystone State. The driving forces in PA? Those who believe the situation in Iraq has improved lead those who don’t by 9 points, and in the overall war on terror, optimists outstrip pessimists by 27 points, 52-25.

Michigan looks like it might go for the candidate most palatable to centrists. The youth vote, surprisingly, comes out strong for McCain. While Clinton beats him 54-41 among 18-29 year olds, McCain beats Obama by 56-33. He only trails Obama among Michigan women by seven points, less than the average gender gap for general elections, and he leads among men by 15 points. Interestingly, the data does not include ethnic demographics.

The sharp trend downwards suggests that Obama may have a problem overcoming the harsh campaigning from the Hillary Clinton campaign. If he loses Michigan and Pennsylvania, that takes 38 Electoral College votes that went to John Kerry in 2004 and puts them in the McCain column. If all other states broke out the same as in 2004, McCain would win by over 120 EC votes. It also portends difficulties in other states such as Wisconsin and even Washington, where Rasmussen indicates McCain could be the first Republican since Reagan to contend for the state.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/12/mccain-moves-to-the-lead-in-michigan-tied-in-pennsylvania/

-- March 12, 2008 8:15 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I am going to make a prediction and I am not sure everyone here is going to be happy. I do believe that the election is going to keep President Bush from attacking Iran before the November 4th election for President.

What I am thinking and suspect is that President Bush is working on a military plan to attack Iran's nuclear and military facilities after November 4, so as to not be a factor in the Presidential election.

I do not believe after November 4th that it will matter to President Bush who won the election (whether a Democract or Republican--although, I know he wants McCain to win) as to his action to attack Iran.

I think the President is currently listening to experts that Iran will have the bomb by January 2009. Missile guidance has been provided to Iran by North Korea and this is very disturbing to the military.

If war breaks out, the dinar will probably be affected and oil will certainly go through the roof during our winter months in United States. I am hoping that the President will plan for energy consumption for the United States for our winter months, if he decides on this course of action. I can see no other action he can take, if he truly believes that Iran is a threat to U.S. national security.

Laura Parker

-- March 12, 2008 9:13 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Thank God for McCain !

-- March 12, 2008 10:38 PM


Roger wrote:

BritishKnite,

The Dinar is worth what they say it is worth.

The Dinar is a controlled currency, and if it goes up or down, it is because someone says, "let's do bla..."

The reason it went up a pip is probably to put it in the head of people that it IS going up, and for people to have a continued trust in the Dinar.

If it was because the Dollar took another nosedive, well probably one of the reasons,, and the reason the Dollar took a nose dive is the feds interest index. So yes in a sense it was because of that, but for the Iraqis, they are more interested in their own affairs, and as long as the Dinar is set against the Dollar, the value of the Dinar will be in direct proportion to the value of the Dollar.

So indirectly, it was a chain of events that lead up to it, and it started here with our own Feds.

If they want to increase the value of the Dinar and are holding it to the Dollar, they had better hurry up and increase the Dinar, as the Dollar is sliding down more now than the Dinar have been rising lately.

This year alone (hope I got the figures right, I will humbly bow to a more exact counter claim) the Dollar have gone down altogether 17% towards all the other major currencies.

That means that the Dinar have gone down in buying power with the same amount.

The gradual rise from last year until it flattened out in the end of last year, was about 20% value increase of the Dinar. This pretty much followed the Dollars decline in value, so as the Dollar is now on a serious down wards trend, the Iraqis can not just sit idle and watch their own currency go down the drain because the Dollar is.

Pressure is on more and more to make the Dinar move.

Last trading session on ISX was another good financial upswing in the market.

The Dinar have so many other pressures on it to move up, but it seems to me that one of the main concerns in CBI is "to stem speculation".

Not too long ago there was a rumor out, from one of the ministers that the idea is to take the Dinar, do a three zero lop, and make the Dinar / Dollar a 1:1 currency. The Dinar was holding around 1220, and a quick rise to 1:1 would make the difference between 1220 and 1000, the profit after the exchange to the new currency. Immediately, you couldn't get hold of any Dinars on the market, and CBI had to go out and say this was hogwash, and speculators got a lecture.

It's not the first time someone in a ministerial post have come out with a statement that have been denied later by CBI.

What ways they are going to go is a matter of speculation, we all of course want to see an RV, and that is the most sane way to go, but after all these years, that action have eluded us all, so they must sit on another strategy that they find good for the state.

No that I can figure out what other thing other than an RV, or a rapid upgrade of the currency will make any sense, but the statements from CBI is far and few. It's almost like the dungeons in an old castle, you hear some moaning on occasion.

-- March 13, 2008 3:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Five held after suicide bomb attack on US troops in Iraq
Thu Mar 13, 2008

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US military on Thursday announced the capture of five suspects following a suicide bomb attack in central Baghdad that killed five American soldiers and their Iraqi interpreter.

The five were captured on Tuesday, one day after the attack in Mansur neighbourhood that also killed two Iraqi civilians and wounded three other US soldiers, a military statement said.

It said four of those captured had been "positively identified for their alleged involvement" in Monday's attack.

"The detainees were taken to a coalition force detention facility for further questioning," the statement said, without giving further details of the arrests.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080313/world/iraq_unrest_us_baghdad

-- March 13, 2008 7:08 AM


Sara wrote:

Balad Airmen rescue U.S. teachers in Iraq
by Staff Sgt. Ruth Curfman
332nd Air Expeditionary Wing Public Affairs

3/12/2008 - BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq (AFPN) -- Airmen from the 64th Expeditionary Rescue Squadron here were called out to rescue two American citizens lost on a hiking trip March 2.

"We loaded up with our flight crew of four people, plus we also had two pararescue Airmen with us," Navy Lt. Evan Scaggs, a 64th ERQS pilot and the flight lead for the rescue said. "Typically, anytime we go on a mission like this one, pararescue makes sure that they load up their medical bags, climbing kits and anything they may need for rough terrain rescues."

"Basically, we bring the rescuers to the site and we are there to make sure they get in and get out as smoothly as possible," said Senior Airman Mike Arview, a 64th ERQS flight engineer. "We were called in because the ground search was unsuccessful due to the terrain, but we were ready to go."

"It took us a while because they were in an area where one side of this mountain was at an 80 degree angle and the other side was a 90 degree angle, so it was hard to see them unless you came in at just the right direction."

Because of the terrain and the area the survivors were in, the helicopter crew had to be extremely careful while they were hovering to make sure they were safe as well.

"Other than them being tired, dehydrated and cold, they were fine," Lieutenant Scaggs said. "However, one more night out there at about 4,700 feet and they may have suffered from hypothermia or frost bite."

"I was told that it was the highest elevation rescue mission that has happened in Iraq," Lieutenant Scaggs said.

"They did an outstanding job," said Lt. Col. Chad Franks, the 64th ERQS commander. "They executed this rescue just like they train. It may seem an extraordinary effort, but that is what these people train for every day.

"I hope people realize, it doesn't matter what service or country you are in, the Combat Search and Rescue team will come and get you," Colonel Franks said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123089900

-- March 13, 2008 7:19 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq’s Mehdi army attacks US base near Kut
By Reuters, March 13, 2008

US soldiers and Iraqi militants exchanged fire after a rocket attack from a Shi’ite Mehdi Army militia stronghold on a U.S. base southeast of Baghdad, Iraqi police said on Thursday.

An Iraqi police official, who asked not to be identified, said as many as 11 Katyusha rockets landed on the U.S. base near Kut, 170 km (105 miles) southeast of Baghdad, late on Wednesday.

A U.S. military spokeswoman said the Americans responded after four rockets were fired at the base. She had no information about civilian casualties but said no U.S. soldiers were hurt in the exchange.

Iraqi police said the rockets were fired from Kut’s Shuhada district, one of four Mehdi Army strongholds raided by Iraqi police on Wednesday, a day after anti-U.S. cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s militia clashed with security forces.

Sadr renewed a six-month ceasefire last month. The ceasfire has been praised by U.S. commanders for contributing significantly to falling levels of violence. Attacks across Iraq have fallen 60 percent since last June, when an extra 30,00 U.S. troops became fully deployed.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2b972d2a-f0da-11dc-a91a-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

-- March 13, 2008 7:33 AM


Sara wrote:

Mention of Tehran..

Cheney says US needs missile defense
By TOM RAUM AP
Mar 12, 2008

WASHINGTON - Borrowing a theme from the presidential contest, Vice President Dick Cheney said Tuesday that the possibility of a 3 a.m. emergency call to the White House is all the more reason for the next commander in chief to follow through on President Bush's plans for a national missile defense.

"It's plain to see that the world around us gives ample reason to continue working on missile defense," Cheney told the conservative Heritage Foundation at a dinner recognizing the 25th anniversary of President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative, a proposed network of rockets capable of shooting down incoming intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Bush has set in motion a more modest version of Reagan's original plan.

"In the ongoing political campaign, there's been discussion recently about 3 a.m. phone calls," Cheney said. "We all hope that a commander in chief never has to pick up the line and be told that a ballistic missile is headed toward the United States. In such an instance, catastrophe would be minutes away."

It was a reference to a television ad by Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton. The "red phone" ads have become a factor in the race for the Democratic nomination.

"In 1972, nine countries had ballistic missiles," Cheney said. "Today, it is at least 27. And that includes hostile regimes that oppress their own people, seek to intimidate and dominate their neighbors and actively support terrorist groups."

In addition to potential threats from North Korea, Cheney emphasized what he said was a growing threat from both Iran and Syria.

"Tehran continues to develop technologies that could lead to its building an ICBM capable of striking the United States, perhaps as soon as late in the next decade," Cheney said. "Given all that we do about the Iranian regime's hatred of America, its vow to destroy Israel and its ongoing efforts to develop the technology that could be used for a nuclear weapon, that is a danger every one of us must take seriously."

As for a national missile defense system, the vice president said, "We're a lot further along than we would have been if Ronald Reagan hadn't set this in motion 25 years ago.

"President Reagan didn't live to see his vision fulfilled and he didn't expect to. But we're getting there," Cheney said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080312/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney

-- March 13, 2008 9:07 AM


Sara wrote:

Analysis: Pentagon: Iraq oil laws stuck
March 12, 2008
By BEN LANDO
UPI Energy Editor

WASHINGTON, March 12 (UPI) -- A Pentagon report says four key oil-related laws in Iraq are "stalled" in political gridlock.

The quarterly report to Congress, "Measuring Security and Stability in Iraq," released Tuesday, said the law commonly known as the oil law is the furthest along the political process -- it made it to Parliament but is stuck in the Energy Committee.

The law, which would set guidelines for investment in and governance of Iraq's oil sector, is part of a hydrocarbons package that includes laws governing revenue sharing, reconstituting the national oil company and reorganizing the Ministry of Oil. Those three are still being considered by the Shura Council, a judicial review body.

"All four components of the hydrocarbon law are stalled," the report said. The oil law is at the forefront of a fight over the extent of central control over the oil resources and whether Iraq's oil and gas should be open to foreign investment.

The Pentagon report cited disputes between the central government and Iraq's Kurdistan Regional Government over the latter's decision to pass its own oil law and sign dozens of exploration contracts with international oil firms.

Abdul-Hadi al-Hasani, parliamentarian and deputy of the Energy Committee, told United Press International last month an ongoing review of Iraq's Constitution, aimed at ironing out some vague wording and varied interpretations, needs to take place first.

"This will make the way to pass the law of oil and gas," he said. "It will be very easy to be passed because we won't have any disagreements. Roadblocks now are not technical, they are political."

All sides in this fight say the Constitution is on their side.

The Defense Department report said without a new oil law Iraq will be unable to meet its 2010 goal of 3.4 million bpd. It also said refineries are running at below 50 percent capacity and require new equipment, security and electricity. In turn, or as a result, Iraq's power plants are unable to produce what Iraqis need, due to insecurity and a lack of fuel. Electricity production reached key peaks in 2007, but "the challenges eventually overwhelmed the system and electrical production fell in January 2008," the report said.

Iraq's Oil and Electricity ministries, however, have been criticized by Iraqi workers and civil society for not investing enough funds into Iraqi-led projects in the oil and power sectors, instead waiting for foreign companies.

The ministries have routinely spent only a fraction of their multibillion-dollar capital budget, though that percentage is increasing year-on-year. Security issues, new investment legislation, corruption or fears of allegations of graft, and a lack of administrative capacity to spend the funds have been blamed for that spending.

U.S. auditors are being asked by Congress to look into how much Iraq is spending on reconstruction.

http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Energy/Analysis/2008/03/12/analysis_pentagon_iraq_oil_laws_stuck/4461/

-- March 13, 2008 9:15 AM


Sara wrote:

Diplomat upbeat on Iraq
4:08

David Satterfield, senior adviser to U.S. Secretary of State, gives assessment of the war in Iraq.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/03/13/intv.iraq.assessment.satterfield.cnn?iref=mpvideosview

-- March 13, 2008 10:04 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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KBR Announces Completion of Iraqi Oil Transfer Platform Facilities

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HOUSTON - (Business Wire) KBR (NYSE:KBR) today announced that it has successfully completed construction on facilities for the Coalition Forces on the Iraqi Oil Transfer Platforms in the Persian Gulf. The project was a task order under KBR’s Contingency Construction Capabilities (CONCAP) contract with the Naval Facilities Engineering Command (NAVFAC).


The contract stipulated that all work, including the design, procurement and construction of the facilities, be completed within six months. KBR completed the construction phase in 120 days during the height of the winter storm season, which presented significant challenges. The successfully completed facilities include berthing, restrooms, galleys and support infrastructure to include power generation and distribution, fresh water production and distribution and fire protection systems for the facilities. Berthing units were designed to be more comfortable with private entrances to adjoining restrooms. The project achieved more than 150,000 man-hours onboard vessels, ashore and on the platform without any recordable injuries.

“KBR was able to overcome significant design and logistical challenges and successfully completed the work on time, despite rough seas and an extreme range of both hot and cold weather,” said Richard Graves, Vice President of KBR’s G & I Design and Construction unit. “This project highlights our ability to safely deliver a quality product to our customer, even under the most adverse conditions.”

KBR is a global engineering, construction and services company supporting the energy, petrochemicals, government services and civil infrastructure sectors. The company offers a wide range of services through its Downstream, Government and Infrastructure, Services, Technology, Upstream and Ventures business segments. For more information, visit www.kbr.com.
(http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...s,312872.shtml)

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-- March 13, 2008 10:49 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Arab parliaments declare their support for removing Iraq from Section VII

Called for an end to the file of Kuwaiti debt, Oman opted to hold its new
اربيل - علي سعد Irbil - Ali Sa'd
أيد. Participants endorsed at the Arab Parliamentary Union, which began its work yesterday in Arbil, the importance of Iraq Directed volitional item VII, calling for the termination of the file of Kuwaiti debt on Baghdad dialogue flexible. . He said the leadership of the Alliance of Kurdistan Walid company: that all participating delegations at the conference stressed the need to restore full sovereignty to Iraq in all its cities, and take him out of the Section VII, which grants foreign forces and the legitimacy of its presence in the country. . The company confirmed that the Arab states invited Kuwait to bring down debt on Iraq, through dialogue between the parties, and show flexibility in the negotiations, likely to agree on a date to start the talks soon. . The delegations of Kuwait and Iraq had objected at the meeting yesterday, described the launch (the occupied country) to Iraq by the head of the delegation of the Arab League, demanding an immediate apology and the non-recurrence of this status during future meetings. . During the meeting room on which the afternoon meeting of the Union of Arab Parliaments, undecided between the head of the delegation of the Arab League, which was launched on Jaroush recipe (occupied country) on Iraq, and Iraqi Deputy Parliament Speaker Sheikh Khalid al-Attiyah, the head of the Kuwaiti delegation Jasim Al-Kharafi, who deplored release This property (occupied) on Iraq. . For his part, Sheikh Hamid Molh leadership of the Supreme Council and one of the participants in the conference that was formed of representatives from each country to talk about their achievements and the obstacles they faced and the challenges that stand before providing the Arab and Islamic nations, in addition to the recommendations, which intends to talk incorporated in the final statement. . He added that he was also set up committees to work political, economic and human rights of women and the legal committee will begin its work today, and will meet again tomorrow, to get the necessary recommendations to be referred to the drafting committee for the final statement. . He Molh who is the membership of the Political Committee, that committee will discuss the challenges facing the nation, especially Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Somalia and Sudan, noting that the conference will focus on the draft national reconciliation and the involvement of the Arab Group and presence in Iraq, in addition to investment institutions of civil society issues in the presentation of the nation, and discussing the rights of women to participate in Arab political life. يشار الى ان . It should be noted that the conference will discuss issues of Arab women at the time did not participate in any Arab parliamentary delegations participating in the conference except the Iraqi delegation. . Fahd, in turn, said Dr. Ashraf member of the Saudi delegation: that holding the meeting in Irbil confirm the unity of Iraq as part of the Arab and Islamic nations, noting that the return of Iraqi-Saudi relations a matter of time, especially with some technical issues. لها في العراق. The Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi Foreign Minister, announced recently, the determination of the Kingdom appointed ambassador in Iraq. من . For his part, the member Fuad Jaafar Omani delegation, the agenda for the conference through a crowded working sessions to be, he hoped to leave the recommendations can be applied. ل عمان. Jaafar disclosed that the next session of the Arab Parliamentary Union echdynnir in Amman. اما . The Sheikh Adel recidivism Bahraini head of the delegation have called on Arab countries to invest in Iraq and the Kurdistan region instead of investing in foreign countries, especially since Iraq is one of the promising countries in the area of investment, explaining that the message launched by the conference will stress the role of central Iraq in the Arab region . . For his part, President Hamid Narcissus Moroccan delegation to the Conference of overtly backing the Arab peoples in solidarity with the Iraqi people, especially as the current session was taking place in Arbil, the Iraqis insist on maintaining the unity of the country. . He pointed out that the conference represents a new stage of economic cooperation among nations, saying that economic cooperation and political cooperation complements go in parallel.


(http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...eadmore%3D6091)

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Rob N.

-- March 13, 2008 10:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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financial expert suggests: allowing private banks to open off with American banks to activate its role in reconstruction


بغداد - الصباح Baghdad - morning
قرب انالمرحلة Mali expert stressed that the Iraqi private banks need the support of the state aimed at promoting its new tasks in the light near the start of construction and reconstruction campaigns and to enable them to perform their duties at this stage


صة الوح. He said financial advisor to the Bank of North Yes Ghanem Abdul Jalil: that the decision to lift the amounts of appropriations for private banks to two million dollars encouraging step and good for activating the role of these banks, but did not meet the ambitious.
وبالخاصناء. And on the question of (morning) on the nature and type of support required stressed: Yes, the proposal sponsored by the private banks claim is the Central Bank of Iraq briefly opened clearing banks with American banks and to ensure the advancement made by banks and real competition for global banks awaiting authorize the launching of reconstruction.
وشيئاً. He explained that the procedures for the granting of bank credits and giving insurance at 10 percent payment guarantees are not only something they paperless transactions carried out by banks against the currencies of these simple procedures can be developed banks to the source.
وألمفقاتين. He suggested that the way the Central Bank of feeding our assets abroad set at 4 -5 days and this hinders some business transactions through influencing the price rise, as seen in the world market caused some losses in a proposal to reduce the period to two days.
وبشية. On a question about the possibility of return of capital and Iraqi immigrant working in neighboring countries, he said: These funds can be encouraged to return through the support of banks to give Tmkinhamn facilities to Iraqi businessmen to return to work with the Iraqi banks.
ستقطاب رؤمشجعة. He pointed out that banks in neighboring countries, taking advantage of the opening to allow them off with the American banks to encourage them to attract capital and those funds were invested in the Iraqi immigrants neighboring countries to enjoy such privileges encouraging.

(http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8)

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-- March 13, 2008 10:54 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Iraqi Government Defends Budget Handling

Iraqi government officials on Wednesday expressed "regret" about what U.S. officials said was mismanagement of oil revenues.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 13, 2008 11:12 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Oil Prices to Collapse by Year's End
By Ahmad Al-Khaled

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13 March 2008 (Knight Ridder Newspapers)
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"We are going to be hit by recession, we are going to be hit by inflation...," said Kuwaiti oil industry analyst Kamel A Al-Harami on the likely correction in the oil market which hit a record high of $94.78 per barrel yesterday. Kuwait stands as the fourth largest holder of oil reserves in the world maintaining about 10 percent of the world's total oil reserves. The state currently produces just under 2.5 million barrels per day and has a long-term goal of increasing production to 4 million bpd by 2020. In the short-term, the state has earmarked 2010 for an increase to 3 million bpd.

Al-Harami speaking exclusively to Kuwait Times yesterday, explained the inevitability of an oil market price correction by the end of 2008 saying, "Definitely there will have to be a correction... Nobody can sustain such high prices, whether it is the $10 a gallon in Europe or $5 and $6 in the USA -- it is not sustainable." He added, "...most likely anything that goes up quickly comes down also, so I see oil prices coming down in the near future. I cannot tell you a specific day, but eventually it will come down and it will crash. It will crash by all means because it did not take anything for oil prices to reach $107, $108, $109...or even the $100 level..." He stated that when the correction comes, "It is going to hit hard the economies of everyone, whether it is the oil producers or the oil consumers.

But as international oil hit a record $107 per barrel on Monday, Kuwaiti oil is sharing in the boom and on a powerful upward price trend. "We are on our way to 100 dollars per barrel," said Al-Harami who clarified that when international oil reaches $110 or $111, Kuwaiti crude will go to $100 a barrel." In speculating a timeframe for the expected increase, Al-Harami stated, "At the moment, it could happen any time now. If the dollar continues its decline and the people and financial investors cannot find a venues to dispose off their weak dollar currencies then they have to go and speculate on crude oil, on gold investments or precious metals so they can just grab anything to invest in rather than the weaker US dollar." Explaining the dollars' effect on oil prices, Al-Harami said, "The price of crude oil is going up not because there is something wrong in the fundamentals of the oil industry, and there is nothing wrong with the supply and demand balance. What is happening is that the weaker dollar is leaning oil prices upwards." The US dollar fell to a low of $1.5464 against the Euro on Friday.

Kuwait is set to embark on oil industry infrastructure improvements and development projects amounting to $51 billion over the next five years. Kuwait Times asked Al-Harami if such large-scale projects are wise at a time when Kuwait is experiencing increased prices in a variety of goods. International oil companies are taking 60 dollars a barrel as a benchmark to devise current and future projects, so whenever prices go above $60 a barrel it makes an economic transformation therefore it is still viable and professional to go and invest (in the oil infrastructure sector)," he answered, adding, "however your concern is that the cost for materials and other things will go up as well and therefore it is wise to go and invest today rather than wait until tomorrow.

With Kuwait having only recently discovered free gas fields, Al-Harami said of the state's gas resources, "Inshallah, I think we are going to have gas production, free gas available to us by the end of this month." However, he noted the need to continue importing gas, "I think we still need to import gas from Iran, Qatar, and Iraq because our consumption is increasing substantially..." Kuwait Times asked Al-Harami what he thought to be a reasonable price per barrel for Kuwaiti crude to which he replied, ". ..$70 or $80 per barrel...$70 would be enough.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 13, 2008 11:16 AM


Roger wrote:

Sara,

Did Pentagon actually say so.....-"Iraq oil laws suck"

Well either way, this section of laws are probably important but not as important as this is hyped up to be.

The law is stuck and is not moving, and time goes and goes, and the positions seems to be fixed in the different positions it is held in right now.

Well, it wont matter too much, this can be a secondary step, and as long as the Iraqi Oil Ministry are doing the wheeling and dealings with the big oil kahuna's, this means that the oil will get out of the ground, pumped, sold and revenue will start coming.

The hotly debated oil law merely deals with how to distribute the oil, to the Iraqi people, how each part of the country will benefit from it in one way or the other.

If they start pumping oil, and the revenue starts to kick in, and there is no law about it, the participants in the stalled process will get a very big incentive to get this going, as in the present state they will get nothing. it is going straight into the Iraqi state coffers.


-- March 14, 2008 4:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq PM Advisor: Majors Will Accept Service Contracts
by Monica Mark Dow Jones Newswires Thursday, March 13, 2008


International oil majors would be willing to settle for service contracts in known oil fields in Iraq, the chairman of the advisory committee to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday.

Speaking in an interview with Arab Oil and Gas Magazine, Thamir Abbas Ghadhban, who is a former oil minister, said he was certain international oil companies would accept service contracts...for already discovered oil fields " in view of their geological characteristics, their very great potential, their low production costs and the current and future level of oil prices."

While production-sharing contracts, or PSCs, wouldn't be considered an option by anyone "of sane mind," for these oil fields, the government would have to decide if they were appropriate in areas under explorations -- including the Western Desert region, Ghadhban said.

The exploration risks for companies involved in areas such as the Western Desert are compounded by the fact that that even basic infrastructure is practically nonexistent.

Royal Dutch Shell PLC, BP PLC, ExxonMobil Corp. and Chevron Corp. are among the majors expected to sign Technical Support Agreements with Iraq over the coming few weeks.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry has said more than 70 companies are lined up to sign service contracts over the next 18 months.

The contracts, which allow the companies develop a country's oil industry in exchange for oil or a much smaller percentage of revenue than when production is shared, are seen as a stop gap until a national oil law governing the distribution of Iraq's oil resources is agreed between Baghdad and the Kurdistan Regional Government.

Attempts to ratify the law have been hampered by political and ethnical complications in the region.

"I think there is still the possibility of compromise on the text. The differences between the two sides are not huge," Ghadhban said.

However he didn't give a time frame, saying it wasn't possible to predict when the such an agreement might be reached.

"In the current situation in Iraq, delays in the decision-making process are frequent," he added.
(www.ringzone.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq: Security, corruption slow restoration of Iraqi port

Iraqi officials say much work is needed to secure and restore the port of Umm Qasr in the oil-rich province of Basra.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:10 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Iran, Turkey, Iraq should united against PKK terrorism -- Ahmadinejad

Politics 3/14/2008 12:16:00 AM



(With photos) DAKAR, March 13 (KUNA) -- Iran, Turkey and Iraq should be united against terrorism by the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK), said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday.
Speaking at a press conference on the sidelines of the 11th Session of the Islamic Summit Conference, he said this unified attack against the PKK should "take into account that territorial integrity is not interfered with and the innocent people are not killed." The Turkish Army had commenced a land operation in northern Iraq on February 21 with the aim of wiping out PKK rebels, classified by Turkey, the EU and the US as a terrorist organization. Turkish troops withdrew on February 29.
On his country's nuclear file, he said Iran's fight for its right to possess nuclear capabilities was not just to preserve the Persian state's rights, "but also the rights of all nations." He said the sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council because of this were "not a problem," adding that his country "believes that the nuclear issue is judicially finished, but the hostility remains with some nations." On March 3, the UN Security Council adopted a resolution to tighten and widen sanctions on Iran over its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment activities, and warned that it would do it again in three months if Tehran fails to comply.
Asked about Lebanon, Ahmadinejad said there were powers exercising "hegemony" in the country and that the Lebanese people should be allowed to "choose for themselves," calling for the preservation of the unity and solidarity of the nation.
Lebanon has been without a president since November 2007 when the term of Emile Lahoud expired. The parliamentary session for electing a president has been postponed 14 times so far.
As for the publication of cartoons insulting Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), the Iranian president said that the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) condemned these actions, describing this insult as "the act of a madman." He said resorting to such means to insult a religion reflected "defeat and weakness." And on the appointment of a US envoy to the OIC, the president said that those who think that this could change the image of the US among Muslim nations "are mistaken," adding that there was increased awareness among the public on such issues thanks to the media.
Moreover, he said the OIC was "young" and said the adopting of a revised charter would be "a big step in enhancing the capabilities of the member states." The OIC leaders are looking to approve amendments to the charter, as the organization was established in haste in 1972 after Al-Aqsa Mosque was torched.
(www.kuna.news.kw)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:14 AM


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France strongly condemns killing of Archbishop of Mosul

Population 3/14/2008 12:00:00 AM



PARIS, March 13 (KUNA) -- France late Thursday strongly condemned the assassination of Monsignor Faraj Rahou, Chaldea Archbishop of Mosul, who was kidnapped on February 29 last.
"It is with deep emotion that we learned of the death of Monsignor Farah Rahou," the French Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
"France condemns this odious act in the strongest terms," the statement added.
France expressed its condolences to the family of the victim and to His Holiness Emmanuel III Delly, the Churchs "Patriarch of Babylone" and representative of many of Iraqs Christian community.
The French authorities also urged Iraqis to show tolerance towards each other and remarked that "all the communities must be able to find their place in a peaceful and democratic Iraq, which guarantees to all the right to civil liberties and religion".
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:15 AM


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Experts say Iran gained from Bush’s Iraq invasion
Analysts say Tehran has Washington to thank for increasing Iranian influence in Iraq.

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Tehran, 14 March 2008 (Middle East Online)
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Friends or foes?
Five years on, Iran can thank the United States for unwittingly aiding its drive for regional power by ousting Saddam Hussein, one of Tehran's deadliest foes.

The US military had already defeated Afghanistan's Taliban after the September 11 attacks on US cities in 2001 -- with the unintended consequence of wiping out another of Iran's enemies and tilting the local balance of forces in Tehran's favour.

"The removal of these two regimes without powerful successor states benefited Iran greatly...and opened elbow room for Iran to spread its influence," said Vali Nasr, senior fellow at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations.

Iran cannot entirely rule out US military action to destroy its nuclear sites, and its oil-reliant economy may prove vulnerable a few years hence, but for now it is riding high.

The Iraqi army's swift collapse in 2003 left Shiite-ruled Iran with no indigenous military rival nearby.

Windfall oil revenues have further fuelled the Islamic Republic's heady sense of power under its combative president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"Every 24 hours we are earning $270 million (134 million pounds) ... in hard currency -- a magic amount," said Iranian economist Saeed Leylaz.

In the last five years, Iran has become a weighty player in Iraq, nurturing ties to Shiite and other factions. It has gained popularity throughout the Arab world via its vocal support of Lebanon's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas group.

US Arab allies such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan are alarmed at Tehran's rising power, but after the Iraq war's chaotic outcome, they fear any American assault on Iran would produce another destabilising debacle that would cost them dear.

Psychologically Iran appears to hold the upper hand.

Prospects for American strikes on Iran receded sharply when a US National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released in December surprisingly asserted that Tehran had halted a drive to make nuclear weapons in 2003 and had probably not restarted it.

"We didn't change our assessment of the threat, but the NIE whipped the carpet from under us," said one European diplomat, who argued that the US document had made it harder to rally world powers behind tougher UN sanctions against Iran.

In the last few months, several Arab leaders have visited Tehran, while Ahmadinejad has made groundbreaking trips to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, partly in a bid to allay Arab concerns about Iran's new regional sway.

"It shows that whatever the Arabs think of Iran's leaders, they must take into account that after Saddam's fall, Iran is emerging as a major power in the area," the diplomat said.

This is anathema to the United States, whose relations with Iran have been marked by mutual venom since the 1979 Islamic revolution overturned its main Gulf ally, the Shah, a ruthless dictator who reined Iran with Washington’s support.

President George W. Bush in 2002 labelled Iran part of an "axis of evil".

But Iran, while bent on thwarting US-Israeli aims in the region, wants Iraq to remain a single state that would secure the interests of its Shiite community, but would not be strong enough to threaten its neighbours, analysts in Tehran said.

Washington, which shares Iran's commitment to Iraq's territorial unity, has let its diplomats in Baghdad hold three meetings with their Iranian counterparts in the past year.

But the formal discussions have not blossomed into any broader dialogue aimed at resolving US-Iranian disputes.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:18 AM


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Iraq increasingly suspicious about role of awakening forces in fighting Al Qaida
By Basil Adas

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Baghdad, 14 March 2008 (Gulf News)
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Despite being considered the third power, after the army and police, some in Iraq are accusing the Sunni awakening forces of being heavily infiltrated by Al Qaida members.

"The Americans realised that their combat with Al Qaida is guerilla warfare," says Abdul Sattar Al Mulla, a prominent officer in the former Iraqi army. "Their decision to form the Sunni awakening forces two years ago was to address losing control of the security situation in Baghdad and other large Sunni cities," he said.

Although the awakening forces consist of 71,000 armed men, the Iraqi government has been reluctant to accept them in the mainstream armed forces. It has also rejected dealing with the entire awakening forces, especially in Baghdad, believing that these forces might be infiltrated by Al Qaida members.

Alwan Abdul Hussain, an officer at the Iraqi interior ministry, says the role of awakening forces in fighting Al Qaida is not taken into account. "The awakening forces take on the first lines in addressing Al Qaida. They contributed in reducing casualties among US and Iraqi forces. We have to recognise the awakening role."

According to sources in the Iraqi intelligence service, channels of dialogue and coordination with Sunni awakening leaders in Baghdad were opening before the current Nouri Al Maliki-led government. Some of the awakening members joined the Iraqi intelligence service. The source added: "More than 90 per cent of US warplane-combat against Al Qaida strongholds and arresting and assassination operations against leaders of this organisation [Al Qaida] are done in support of intelligence gathered by Sunni awakening elements".

But the awakening forces have only had limited success, says Salam Al Bayati, a member of the Supreme Islamic Council. "The awakening forces experience succeeded only in the Sunni province of Anbar, which was beneficial to Americans in reducing the number of casualties from four dead daily to four per week. The Americans must recognise the failure of the awakening forces in Baghdad and Diyala provinces."

Tariq Al Janabi, a member of awakening forces in Baghdad, told Gulf News: "My companions and I are sacrificing for Iraqis' security. We do not care if what we do is in the occupation interest or that Americans are the first beneficiaries of our existence. What matters that we will continue to do what we are doing because it is part of a public uprising against Al Qaida and its devastating effect on our society."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 10:19 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - They did say that the laws seem stuck.. however, the post you made recently had some cheery news in it -
pointing hopefully to a compromise WITHOUT the need of Constitutional reform first?
I hope so.. because the Constitutional wrangling will take a lot more time..
and EVERYONE thinks the Iraqi Constitution will prove that THEY are right..
so I am hoping this compromise and moving forward the oil laws will happen first.
I am referring to this article (my faces :) :( added):


Iraq PM Advisor: Majors Will Accept Service Contracts
Report3-13-08

LONDON -(Dow Jones)- International oil majors would be willing to settle for service contracts in known oil fields in Iraq, the chairman of the advisory committee to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry has said more than 70 companies are lined up to sign service contracts over the next 18 months.

The contracts, which allow the companies develop a country's oil industry in exchange for oil or a much smaller percentage of revenue than when production is shared, are seen as a stop gap until a national oil law governing the distribution of Iraq's oil resources is agreed between Baghdad and the Kurdistan Regional Government.

Attempts to ratify the law have been hampered by political and ethnical complications in the region.

"I think there is still the possibility of compromise on the text. The differences between the two sides are not huge," Ghadhban said. :) :) :)

However he didn't give a time frame, saying it wasn't possible to predict when the such an agreement might be reached. :(

"In the current situation in Iraq, delays in the decision-making process are frequent," he added.

http://news.morningstar.com/newsnet/ViewNews.aspx?article=/DJ/200803131133DOWJONESDJONLINE000801_univ.xml

Here the good news is the possibility of compromise on the text of the oil law. :) :) :)
But when the Iraqis might forge such an agreement is up to them.. and has been the persistent cause of DELAYS. :( :(
So.. we will have to wait and see if they will do it.
It is "stuck", but they are so close to a deal they could "un-stuck" it anytime they wish to, is what I see.
They just need the will to do so.
Delays are because they are unable or unwilling to do so.
Perhaps once they are their "own sovereign nation" and out from under the Article.. then they will?
Hopefully. :)

Sara.

-- March 14, 2008 12:41 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara, Roger, and the rest of the board:

I am still very bullish regarding the Dinar. We all agree the iraqi dinar is still undervalued. We also agree an revaluation or a limited free float of the currency would be good for the country.

In your opinions, what if by 2010 Iraq enters into the GCC and adopts a single unified currency with the rest of the Arab world. What value would the CBI place on its own currency before entering into the GCC unified monetary system?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 14, 2008 1:46 PM


Sara wrote:

Winter Soldier Hearings Intended to Harken Back to the Vietnam Hearings..

Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings
March 14, 2008

Hundreds of veterans and active-duty soldiers of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are gathering today for the Winter Soldier hearings. The soldiers plan to give eyewitness accounts of the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the gathering is modeled after the 1971 Winter Solider hearings organized by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

An excerpt:

CAMILO MEJIA: I ended up in Iraq because about four months before my—the end of my service, I was stop-loss, which means that my contract was involuntarily extended. And I deployed to Iraq in April of 2003. And although I had deployed with a political opposition to the war, I was not necessarily— I did not have the moral strength needed to take a stance against it.

So, upon my return to the United States on a two-week furlough, I decided that I could not go back to Iraq in good conscience. And I, instead of going back, began to work on a conscientious objector claim and to put together a case to bring before a military tribunal. And I surrendered, and I went public and I denounced the war. And two months after my surrender, I was tried by a court-martial and found guilty of desertion and sent to jail on a one-year sentence and demoted from staff sergeant to private and given a bad-conduct discharge, which I am appealing. And then, after nine months in jail—I got out three months earlier because of good conduct—I joined Iraq Veterans Against the War, and I have been active with the organization ever since.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/14/hundreds_of_veterans_of_iraq_and

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It is my hope that this coverage will not change perceptions of people from the resolve we need to fight this Iraq war in order to keep the homeland safe and help the Iraqi people and nation to become peaceful and prosperous. War is ugly, war is hell.. but war is sometimes necessary and retreating from it in the face of a determined attack such as those responsible for 9/11 is not the way to continue to have Liberty and a peaceful life and Homeland. The fact is that America, the coalition forces and the Iraqis are fighting in Iraq against Al Qaeda and the leader of that group, Bin Laden himself said he is responsible for the attacks on 9/11 so we are fighting now the people responsible for that terror on US soil:

Statements of al-Qaeda recorded after 9/11 add weight to the U.S account of who was responsible for the attacks. In a 2004 video, apparently acknowledging responsibility for the attacks, bin Laden states that he was motivated by the 1982 Lebanon War, for which he held the U.S. partially responsible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks

The tape also contains Bin Laden's first public acknowledgment of al-Qaida's involvement in the attacks on the U.S., noting that he first thought about attacking the World Trade Center in 1982, after watching Israeli aircraft bomb Lebanon during the 1982 Invasion of Lebanon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video

Apart from all the controversy over removing Saddam (who was a clear threat to the United States, see my earlier post on this page here: http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/03/dinar_discussio.html#134030 ) the point is that right now WE ARE FIGHTING IN IRAQ AL-QAEDA, AND THEY ADMIT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9-11. And it is this group which want the US to give in to them and leave Iraq.

Capitulation to terrorist demands will not appease them so we can live in peace and freedom. If the GOAL is peace and freedom, it is a goal which can only be won by continued effort against the enemy. It is just like giving in to and appeasing Hitler .. that would never have worked as a strategy for the second world war. And YES, there were a lot of veterans from WW2 which could have given you accounts of terrible things that happened then, too. But does that mean we should have stopped fighting against Hitler and given up prosecuting that war, too?

As these women in Iraq testify (below, link), the enemy continues to bomb and kill them and their loved ones. These women are standing bravely in the face of daily attacks and not giving up. Their enemies do not take into account the innocence of their lives or the little ones whose lives they are seeking to protect. These enemies are inhumane and without honor. They will stop at nothing and will not allow peace, safety and prosperity for the Iraqi people - nor will they allow you and I that room for liberty, peace and security in the Western Homelands. To think otherwise is to live in a delusion.

http://us.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/03/13/intv.through.their.eyes.cnn

Recently, there was coverage about the efforts of Berkley to not allow the Marines to recruit there. The Daily Show did a segment on it which was excellent. In it, a Code Pink advocate is heard saying that if only there were no guns there would be no war. The interviewer then asks her if there were no police (they carry guns) if that would mean the end of crime? She pauses as she realizes the implications of what she just stated, but then goes on cheerily, "potentially!". That kind of delusion is not wise for any nation to indulge in.

http://www.spike.com/episode/26337/startsWith/2951580

http://www.spike.com/video/2951580?cmpnid=717&pt=sr&refsite=8875

(I suggest you click on that and listen to it now as this segment has been yanked for being UN-PC by both youtube and the Daily Show website.)

The goal of peace is the same for those who advocate putting down weapons as for those who say they must retain and use them. I believe the police and military need their weapons and the ability to use them if necessary in order to bring criminals and terrorists to justice and bring about peace. Those who think we need to lay down our weapons, get out of Iraq and stop all the horror and hell of war to have a peaceful world are also those who think the police should be unarmed so that crime will go down and we can live in peace and harmony. It is merely applying the same situation with police officers to the military.

If the American people become so enamored with "peace, peace!" when there is no peace obtainable in that way, they would have to learn in the school of hard knocks what their ancestors learned and earned for them the hard way.. namely, that freedom is not free, and we must in each generation defend ourselves and put in the work necessary in order to remain free. Also of note in the segment (url above) is where a Code Pinker advocates Free Speech and the interviewer asks "If only there was an organization that was sworn to defend that free speech... " wouldn't that be great? The interviewer, of course, was referring to the Marines, whose sworn duty it is to uphold the Constitution and the right to free speech. A truth lost on Code Pinkers.. and those in these "Winter Soldier" Vietnam-like "hearings" which are also seeking to undermine the war effort and resolve.

I pray the American people will be wiser than those who seek to manipulate them with false promises of an easy way to peace -those claiming that if you just lay down your weapons.. disarm the police and military, pull out of Iraq and leave the Iraqis in the lurch.. that you will be granted by your masters (the terrorists/criminals) a time of peace. Jesus also was offered an easier way in this life without the cross in it - which He turned down. The road in this life is sometimes difficult but it is the only real choice for those who do not wish to submit themselves under the hand of those offering them this false prosperity and peace.

I believe the price for freedom must be paid. I don't believe our generation can cheat and not pay for freedom the price it takes to retain it. I hope America as a nation has enough sense of history to stand on the shoulders of the giants of the past and not repeat the disasterous mistake from Vietnam of losing yet another war due to cowardice and a misplaced sense of what is necessary to obtain peace at any cost (disarmament, capitulation, pulling out). It is a travesty that the cop-of-the-world now militarily thinks in some segments of the population that the cops should not have guns or fight crime. And it is doubly a horror to the Iraqi people who are fighting to obtain their peace and freedom and do not deserve what the Vietnamese received when America pulled out from there - a slaughter at the hands of a ruthless enemy... the same enemy that gave us 9-11.

Sara.

-- March 14, 2008 3:06 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N, you asked, "In your opinion, what if by 2010 Iraq enters into the GCC and adopts a single unified currency with the rest of the Arab world. What value would the CBI place on its own currency before entering into the GCC unified monetary system?"

In my opinion, certainly, Iraq's currency is worth at least as much as the currencies of the surrounding countries. Therefore, I think the 30 cent level is a fair market value for the Iraqi currency before joining the GCC union. The GCC, by allowing Iraq into the union, would be making a smart move because as Iraq prospers, their currency would bring the others in the GCC union upwards. This would be a fair trade for taking on the Dinar and allowing the Iraqis to join because the Iraqi Dinar initially will be a currency which is "the new boy on the block." The trade is where the GCC gives Iraq a break now by allowing it to join at a similar level to their own currencies, and later.. down the road, they will reap great financial benefits for the GCC countries by benefitting from the Iraqi increase in oil production capacity and the subsequent increase to their unified currency. Iraq gets stability and respect for its currency internationally with the backing of the GCC for its currency value united to theirs in the near term, and Iraq brings to the table the offer of a future increasing value to the GCC currency due to increasing demand for oil and its ability to supply that future need.

I see this unification as a win-win scenerio for the GCC and the Iraqis concerning both of their currencies/positions. Though, of course, if Iraq has already revalued the Dinar and proven its worth on the market on their own, that would make their postion for joining the GCC union far stronger than starting out as one part of that union and looking in dependence to the GCC union to provide them witih stability/support and international recognition/respect for their currency.

Sara.

-- March 14, 2008 4:45 PM


Sara wrote:

Interesting documentation on McCain being in a tie with both Democrat candidates in the General election polls:

Open Thread
By NB Staff
March 14, 2008

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: End of Democrat presidential nomination process nowhere in sight:

- Re-vote in Florida appears unlikely
- Do-over possible in Michigan
- More televised debates being planned
- Superdelegates breaking for Obama

The general election polls (see below) now show McCain in a virtual tie with whichever Democrat wins. Pollsters Scott Rasmussen and John Zogby told radio host Sean Hannity on Thursday that the battle between Barack and Hillary appears to be hurting them both, and helping McCain. They also stated that this is beginning to impact things at the state level, inasmuch as there are now blue swing states that could turn red in November, a virtual diametric shift in the last two months.

With this fight now likely to go into August, and destined to get nastier with more dirt coming out about both Democrat candidates, isn't McCain in the catbird seat? Doesn't this change all the conventional wisdom being espoused about this election months ago?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/03/14/open-thread

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Friday, March 14, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama leading Hillary Clinton 50% to 42% in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination (see recent daily results). This is the first time Obama has ever reached 50% in fifteen months of daily polling on the race. Among African-American voters, Obama leads 84% to 9%. Among White voters, Clinton leads 50% to 39%. Two-thirds of voters who now support Clinton are women. Among white women Clinton leads by twenty-five. In Pennsylvania, Clinton leads 51% to 38%.

The General Election is essentially tied no matter who the Democrats nominate. It’s McCain 45% Obama 44% and McCain 46% Clinton 44% (see recent daily results). In both match-ups, McCain enjoys more unified support from Republicans than his opponents do from Democrats. A Rasmussen Reports look at the race suggests that John McCain may be the luckiest man on the planet since Ringo Starr. Both McCain and Starr were in the right place at the right time and everything broke their way. The question now is will McCain’s luck last until November.

Nationally, McCain is viewed favorably by 54% and unfavorably by 42%. Obama is now viewed favorably by 51% of likely voters nationwide, unfavorably by 46%. Clinton earns positive reviews from 47% of Likely Voters nationwide and negative assessments from 51% (see recent daily results). Among independent voters, those not affiliated with either Republicans or Democrats, McCain is viewed favorably by 56%, Obama by 51% and Clinton by 47%.

Rasmussen Markets data now give Obama a 76.0 % chance to win the Democratic nomination while expectations for a Clinton victory are at 24.4 %.

Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information. The Rasmussen Reports ElectionEdge™ Premium Service for Election 2008 offers the most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a Presidential election.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

-- March 14, 2008 5:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Iran fires artillery at Kurdish villages in northern Iraq
Thu. 13 Mar 2008
By VOA News

Iraqi officials say Iranian forces have fired artillery at several northwestern Iraqi villages suspected of harboring Kurdish rebel bases.

The officials say Iran's military shelled the villages in Iraq's Sulaimaniyah province near the Iranian border for about an hour Thursday. No injuries were reported, but the officials say villagers in the region were terrified.

Iran has not confirmed the artillery strike.

Iraqi officials say Iranian forces appeared to be targeting bases of Kurdish militant group PJAK (the Party for Freedom and Life in Kurdistan). Iran blames the separatists for deadly attacks in northwestern Iran.

PJAK is believed linked to Turkey's outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=14578

-- March 14, 2008 5:30 PM


Sara wrote:

About Winter Soldier II

This new youtube video posted March 12, 2008 states:

On January 31, 1971, John Kerry organized the "Winter Soldier Investigation", a publicity stunt that falsely accused American soldiers of routinely raping, torturing, and murdering innocent Vietnamese civilians.

No criminal charges were filed as a result of any of the [Army's Criminal Investigative Division] investigations into Winter Soldier.

From March 13-16, 2008, "Iraq Veterans Against the War" has coordinated a second Winter Soldier Investigation in an effort to assail the U.S. Military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

On March 11 2008, Jason Mattera of Young America's Foundation confronted Senator John Kerry (D-MA):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ItPN9_79U

-- March 14, 2008 6:19 PM


Sara wrote:

In Stark Contrast to the Left:

On March 15, 1973, John McCain was released as a POW from the "Hanoi Hilton"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypn76M0Wm-k

-- March 14, 2008 7:57 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Did anyone else see the report given by Fox News (Special Report) where a reporter was able to interview an Iraqi Unit to see what Iraqi soldiers think of the USA Presidential Election Process and who they want to see win. The Iraqi soldier was asked about who what if they were following the USA election process and what they thought about the process?. These impressions were followed up with who do you like and who do you want to win the election?.

I was taken back by their response that the Iraqi soldiers were wanting the democrats to win. Whether it was Obama or Clinton. When asked why, the Iraqi soldier stated because they have seen a Republican President at play (meaning Bush), and now wanted to see the difference with a democratic president. Also, living under the influence of a republican president is too hard. This comment was not followed up as to their reasons. It would have been interesting to find out what was causing this compliant with a republican presidential experience.

I just wanted to see if anyone else caught this news item. It's the channel (205) just above cnn's channel (200).

What did you all think?

Laura Parker

-- March 14, 2008 9:12 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Laura Boy! Did they have to go far to find an Iraqi who is a Democrat supporter I bet probably famous in his circles as the oddball, or a mole for the terrorists.

-- March 14, 2008 11:44 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

Actually, yes.. some people have noticed that coverage.

It was pretty fishy. Arabs are really not very pro-female rulership, notice many female politicians over there? How would it run in the media over there.. about a female democratically elected to run Iraq? Think that would fly with their populace? No.. not likely. So the pro-female President comments made.. and the one fellow asking Hillary Clinton to send a book about Democracy to the Iraqi parliamentarians.. yeah, that would work there, too. These four are brain surgeons. Such easy solutions.. just read a book and solve the Iraqi parliamentary crisis.. why didn't WE think of that?

Perhaps the only coverage they watch is CNN.. in which case, they need to be informed that the unfortunate reality is more like - Clinton and/or Obama would leave these poor people in the lurch and likely they would be slaughtered along with their families.. as the comments below, they had to do a lot of cherry picking to find these "geniuses". They probably have the IQ of burnt toast.. or they needed the money they were paid really, really badly..

Fortunately, God has mercy on fools and won't give them their wonder-dream.. (if it was theirs and not generated by a side offer of cash) a "dream" which would turn out to be their worst nightmare (as they were left to the slaughter).

I am hoping the American public can recognise leftist setup propaganda when they see it.. the comments below this piece encourage me to believe many do.

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CNN Features Iraqi Troops Who Favor Democrats in Election
By Matthew Balan
March 14, 2008

CNN’s Kyra Phillips, currently in Iraq on assignment, apparently couldn’t find any Iraqi troops who support the Republicans for the November election in the U.S. All of those featured in her report on Friday’s "Newsroom" program said glowing things about Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or the Democrats in general. Ahmed Mansour, one of the soldiers from Iraq’s Sixth Division that Philips interviewed, expressed his preference for Hillary Clinton. "The truth is I pay attention to Democratic Party -- even more, Hillary Clinton." When asked why he liked Hillary, he said, "Because I like her personality, because she's new. In America, you need something new, a new female president. We saw and lived under the Republican Party, under Bush. We would like to see what the Democrats have to offer."

As a follow-up, Phillips asked Mohammed that if he "had a chance to sit down with Hillary Clinton, what would you tell her you need in Iraq?" Mohammed’s answer: "I would ask her to help compose a book about democracy and send it to Iraqi politicians. It would help."

The final soldier featured by Phillips, Alaa Ahmed, said Obama is his favorite candidate. He further explained that Obama is "practical and loves to serve his country." Phillips then asked the "sit down" question to Ahmed concerning Obama. Ahmed’s response: "I would ask him to pay attention to the Middle East and the Iranian and American conflict that's happening on Iraqi land. That is affecting Iraq and needs to be addressed." Phillips then said to Ahmed, "There's been lots of talk about how Iran is affecting this war, funneling terrorists, weapons." Ahmed agreed. "Of course, we believe that. We have proof that the Iranians help the terrorists by giving them money, weapons, and many other things."

Earlier, after the report's original 9 am Eastern hour airing, Phillips, in a discussion with "Newsroom" anchor Tony Harris, went into a bit more detail about the Iraqi military's apparent support of the Democrats.

TONY HARRIS: .. let me ask you, Kyra, did any of these soldiers tell you any personal stories about arresting terrorists?

PHILLIPS: Sure. And you know what, Tony, you actually made me think of something on the higher level. Some of the generals, who are working very close with U.S. troops that are on a higher level, they were very pro-Republican. Hey, the Republican Party, you know, they gave us this training. They helped, you know, create freedom for us. They were much more pro-Republican. So I probably should add that.

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Comments

1) Oh yeah, I almost forgot, minor point by exLib

... There were some people, you know, the "rich" "Power" people who liked the Republicans, it.. may....be... important...to...uh...add....that.. BUT, The people who do all the work and are out on the street, THEY ALL support democrats.

2) Re the Generals by motherbelt

ex-lib, I noticed that too. Just like real life, huh? The wealthy and powerful like the Republicans, the "working men" go Democrat. Or so they'd like us to believe.

You know, if that's really true, why is it all the wealthy Hollywood types are Liberals?

3) OMG...Talk about by bigtimer

OMG...Talk about cherry-picked obvious bias for CNN...Kyra should get a gold star.

Hail to Hillary, hail to Obama, hail to the DNC.

Give me a friggin' break.

At least one slipped up about Iran being the enemy and aiding and abetting the enemy...but he is still voting for Obama.

These stations wonder why they lose ratings/viewers and are detested.

Clueless....nope, just agenda driven.

Just how in the hell dumb do they think we are out here?

CNN is beyond pathetic.

4) What? by ThisnThat

CNN had to pour over lots and lots of names to come up with these 4 individuals. Who do they think they are kidding?

5) These are Iraqi Soldiers by PawpawN

These are Iraqi soldiers, but I wonder how many they spoke to and then cherry picked these 4, and, of course, we need to know what complete questions were asked? The MSM loves to use ... in their statements and questions, so we really don't know full Questions & full Answers, just ... Why didn't they ask the whole group of Iraqis, instead of just 4!

5) Of course these 4 will now be allowed to vote in NOV Election by PawpawN

Of course these 4 will now be allowed to vote in NOV Election, along with the dead in Chicago, NJ, NY and Mich. Maybe a few other places and also people in the south get to vote in all the polling places they can get to in that 1 day, etc., etc.

6) OK by motherbelt

Exactly WHAT are they doing interviewing Iraqis about who they favor?
We need a female President? I wonder how he'd feel about a female President in Iraq!

Jeez, the Dems will be trying to get them absentee ballots!

LOL1

7) Projection? by acumen

You left out the very end of Phillips initial report - I'm Hillary Clinton. And I approved this ad.

8) what Kyra really wanted to say by jwm45

Hey, the Republican Party, you know, they gave us this training. They helped, you know, create freedom for us. They were much more pro-Republican. So I probably should add that.

what Kyra really wanted to say:

So I should probably add that even though the thought of it makes me want to retch.

9) CNN, Al Jazeera, etc. by mom_rox

Which media organizations provide information to these Iraqi soldiers? If they are watching CNN , Al Jazeera and the BBC, that might explain the pro-Democratic responses.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944

10) so how many by bigpapa

welfare recipients in THIS country would like to see the Hillary win????

11) Ali Saleh: "Democrat is by HypocriteHater

Ali Saleh: "Democrat is better than Republican. We are living under the Republicans. We know the situation. It's difficult under the Republicans."

Hey Ali, you think if the Democrats had been in power, they'd give two sh*ts about you and your country? How was life for you with Saddam in power, huh? As far as the dems are concerned, it was all rainbows and kite flying for Iraqis under Saddam. Do you concur with that?

Here's a news flash for you: Rebuilding a country after 40 years of rule by a sadistic dictator IS difficult. Sorry we can't waive our magic wand and make things better for you in 2 seconds, but neither could OUR founding fathers whose blood, sweat and tears over many many years gave us this great nation.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/03/14/cnn-features-iraqi-troops-who-favor-democrats-election

-- March 15, 2008 12:48 AM


Anonymous wrote:

Laura their is nothing like foreigners telling Americans just how thay should vote in their upcoming elections is there? they are sure that we are all lemmings and follow the opinions of the Iraqis, like, totally man.

-- March 15, 2008 1:14 AM


Roger wrote:

RobN.

That is assuming that they ARE going in with GCC.

I think that there are too many things in the mix right now. Iraq has to set itself up to be a country of happiness and manna from heaven, and are first and for all not in par with any other of the Gulf countries, as of now.

In order for the GCC to even accept Iraq into it's midst, Iraq have to get a few more Bugatti's on the street first.

With all the promising future we have for Iraq, they still have some ways to go before they are at even shoulders with the GCC countries, and I think that a membership in 2010 is far far too early. I also think that if Iraq is pushing too heavily on getting in, before they are up and ready, there will be resistance in GCC , as Iraq will be seen a little bit as a freeloader, and only riding on the economy of the higher oil producing GCC countries, if they would go with the same economic system.

It would be like if the US would incorporate Mexico in the Dollar system.

Iraq can after a couple of years get into the level of income and production that will make it a good prospect to get into the union, but I don't think it is an issue, at least for the closest years.

By the time they are up in par, meaning they have a good oil production, and stable country, the Dinar will have risen in value in one way or the other anyway.

Therefore I don't think that a potential membership in the GCC, will be one of the possible plans that investors like you and I will be able to count on like ...uh...so to say, "bail us out", of the stalled Dinar.

The best plan we can have is the plan we have had all along, do the waiting game, and as I have said earlier, there are other ways of investing the Dinar.

With the holdings that I sent over, I have sunk quite a bit of it into stocks, there are a few sludge, drudge and smudge stocks, that have not moved or are even lower, but all in all I have earned quite a handsome sum already now, on what I invested both in savings account, and in stock value rising. Overall the value is on a steady rise, and it is getting better after each trading session. That value will be added onto any Dinar value increase on top of it also, so for my part, I am not too worried about what way things are going, GCC and swap to GCC currency, zero lop and swap to lower denominations, or RV, because I will come out of this in pretty good shape however I turn it.

I consider that you have done the right move, moved the holdings to Iraq, and converted the money into an account.(Dunno where you are in this process, but by all means keep us informed, and if I can be of any assistance let me know, but I think that you have figured out already that this is a pretty easy process, no Einstein stuff, just tedious on occasion that's all)

So to go back to the GCC, well one thing for sure, if this happens you can be sure there will be a lot of coverage about it, starting early, and any and all concerns will be aired, and in true Arabic form they will have a goat barbie, and think about it, the sheiks, the mullahs, and any and all wants to get in on the discussion, and absolutely no part will stay secret, any complaints will be in the media, and when the parties are getting together and finalizing it, they will all celebrate, and have hand shaking photo ops as fast as they can find a lens.

It is a process that will slowly build up, the particulars will be known as they go, and very little surprises will come our way if this thing starts to heat up as an issue.

The currency will then be the common GCC currency, but the bummer is that the GCC members don't even have a common currency right now, they don't agree on it, and they still stick to their own currency, even if they float pretty much around the borders, and they readily accept their neighbouring currency in daily wheeling and dealings.

So in order for the GCC to show unity, and have a common currency, they have to iron out that particular issue first, before they even can come close to ask, or if Iraq ask, to join in on their currency.

Remember....in the middle of the negotiations there is always a divine interrupting force.....coming from the smell of the goat barbie.

-- March 15, 2008 5:07 AM


Roger wrote:

Laura,

Well they're not voting, so ultimately it doesn't matter, other than as a curiosity. Going good so far, with your stuff???

-- March 15, 2008 5:11 AM


BritihKnite wrote:

Posted on behalf on Steve:

Iraqi Bank Security
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Steve, as requested, I have posted your link

http://isx-iq.net/page/english/lawbank-e.pdf

Regards,

BK.

-- March 15, 2008 6:53 AM


BritishKnite wrote:

Did Chalabi manipulate the US into going to war?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634994

Whatever the thoughts, the US Govt believe he is now the man to get things done in Iraq.

-- March 15, 2008 8:22 AM


Roger wrote:

Thanks BritishKnite,

The very first post about Iraqi banks is a must read.

Take your time, it is a bit deep, heavy and official, but it is a very important document.

It is the exact rules and regulations in how to conduct banking business in Iraq.

The Iraqis have a hard time over there, and are trying to do their best, and this may reflect in our eyes that they don't have a clue what they're doing. Dead wrong, this document shows exactly the boundaries of what a bank can do or not do.

In fact, if you read the article 49 and 50, you can see that an Iraqi bank is set up more or less like a Swiss bank, you will have total privacy, with severe penalties for the bank if the privacy is breached.

It also gives the basic criteria for being a bank in the first place, and as you can see it is set pretty high, so the risk of having a fly by night bank is not possible.

The document shows that the rules and regulations are absolute top international standard, and the control mechanisms in place to keep it so.

I think that this document would be especially of interest for those of you that still have some doubts about doing banking in Iraq, as it shows that, it is not something that is done on a try and fail basis, but on deep fundamentals.

I have full confidence in the Iraqi banking system, and if you have doubts, I suggest you to read it.

The Iraq bank industry, rules and regulation was set in place during the Bremer interim administration in Iraq, and most probably it was worked out already before the invasion.

Swiss Bank, Monaco, Cayman Island or Iraq, take your pick.

Read up on this and you will realize what a gem Iraqi banking is, and it is a very preferred way of having an account.

Once you're done, you might want to yank those last Dinar bills out of your drawer and get it over to Iraq into an account of your own.

Good reading, thanks Steve, and thanks BritishKnite, you made the posting of the month, to say the least.(Well if an RV comes this month, you will be the second posting of the month)

BritishKnite,

That guy, Chalabi, was a bit on the lose side, almost like a lose cannon. His loyalty is questioned, and his reasons and motives are a bit on the murky side. But then again, this is all through media, that told us so afterwards.

At least he doesn't have too much of a good report over here, and it is true as it's stated in the video clip, there are many that believe that he intentionally mislead the US a whole lot.

I don't know where this all will lead, Malaki is a dead horse, Chalabi is back in the limelight, and other candidates in Iraq don't have a good showing.

None have really stand out, perhaps with the exception of the oil minister, but he is busy doing deals, and will be on front pages quite often as he have a very hot potato post so to say. As for Chalabi, he might or might not be a straight talker, but if there is a long line of allegations against him, usually they are not completely unfounded.


-- March 15, 2008 9:32 AM


Roger wrote:

That Intelligence report about Iran, was probably one of the bigger mistakes the intelligence have done.

Either it is planted there for reasons unknown, or it is a big mistake.

Intelligence have been known to fail very much in the past. It have failed with big consequences and it has been completely blind to obvious things in the past.

The operation of the Bay of Pigs was a disaster, the intelligence could not correctly assess Bin Laden, there was intelligence but it was spread out and not coordinated with regards to data about the 9/11 hijackers. An intelligence failure. No one anticipated an attack from Japan, even as war clouds was looming, it was a complete intelligence disaster, and we didn't even have track of where the whole Japanese fleet was located. Japan on the other hand had detailed intelligence of Hawaii, and all it's installations. Russia didn't have a clue that Germany was about to invade, and completely failed to have intelligence about a massing of 3.5 million men close to the Russian line.

So the 9/11 attacks came, so the German invasion came, and so the Pearl Harbor was burning.

An intelligence officer, are compiling a new line of thought, a new strategy and a new angle on the Iranian nuclear build up, it seems to me that he had a headache when he was following his plot charts, and made a mistake when he drew a line between two or more dots.

It's like, we know how to build a bomb. We know that we must do things and process things that you only can do if you have a bomb. The Iranians are saying that they are processing that stuff with the method that we know is used only to do a bomb.

The Iranians are saying that they're doing it, at the same time as an intelligence report are saying that they are not doing a bomb.

The Iranians are saying that they are doing it, but it is not for a bomb.

We know that when you need a bomb, you must do exactly that.

What exactly do the intelligence know about bombs that our nuclear scientist don't.

It's another intelligence flop.


-- March 15, 2008 9:55 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger, what is your view/opinion of this?


Because of the intelligence failures of the past.. will they say that they cannot make a mistake with Iran and hold off.. UNTIL Iran actually uses a nuke, exploding it somewhere on the globe - likely over Israeli soil, but maybe on US soil to influence the election, as McCain is concerned they may?
That story here:

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McCain Worries Terrorists Will Try to Tip Election Against Him
by FOXNews.com
Friday, March 14, 2008

John McCain said Friday that he worries terrorists will try to tilt the election against him in November.

McCain was asked by an audience member during a town hall meeting in Springfield, Pa., if he thought Al Qaeda in Iraq or another terrorist group would “ratchet up” attacks to increase U.S. casualties right before the election, to encourage voters to elect a president “more willing to withdraw.”

“Yes, I worry about it,” McCain answered. “I know that they pay attention because (of) the intercepts that we have of their communications.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/14/campaign-wire-obama-camp-says-clinton-outlook-divorced-from-reality/

==end quote===

Lest you think I agree with McCain on this concern, I don't. I believe that there will be no attack on US soil such as we had with 9-11 as long as President Bush is in the Whitehouse partly because President Bush has proven himself to be such a hawk. You see, IF they were to attack during the election cycle, President Bush would still be in office at that time and he COULD declare a state of emergency and continue to remain in office to deal with crisis - taking strategic military action in the face of this newly demonstrated threat. So I don't think they will do it while such a hawk is in power, EVEN IF McCain appears to be winning the election. Such action would just cement President Bush's ability to go to war with Iran.. and he would have nothing to lose because he would not have to be re-elected and the people would be 100% behind him due to the terror on US soil. And it likely would not reflect on McCain, as he could be saying all kinds of moderate things which show he disagrees with the President, yet.. it would go forward with attack and decimation of Iran as a result of the attack on US soil in that scenerio.. IMO.

Sara.

-- March 15, 2008 2:37 PM


Sara wrote:

Pope honors slain archbishop, urges end to killings in Iraq
March 16, 2008
By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI issued one of his strongest appeals for peace in Iraq today, days after the body of the kidnapped Chaldean Catholic archbishop was found near the northern city of Mosul.

"Enough with the slaughters. Enough with the violence. Enough with the hatred in Iraq!" Benedict said to applause at the end of his Palm Sunday Mass in St. Peter's Square.

On Thursday, the body of Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho was found near Mosul. He had been abducted on Feb. 29.

Benedict has called Rahho's death an "inhuman act of violence" that offended human dignity.

Today, Benedict praised Rahho for his loyalty to Christ and his refusal to abandon his flock despite many threats and difficulties.

He urged the Iraqis to raise their heads and reconstruct their life through "reconciliation, forgiveness, justice and coexistence among tribal, ethnic and religious groups."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5623443.html

Interesting that the Pope appealed for peace today.. enough with the violence, he said.
Then he called the Archbishop's death an act of "inhuman violence" and called on Iraqis to work toward peace.
I hope the Iraqis will do so.. the terrorists who killed the Archbishop are not as likely to be receptive to his appeal for peace.
Their way appears to be the sword, and duly, "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" (Matt 26:52).

===

20 die in missile strike on militant's home in Pakistan
March 16, 2008
By BASHIRULLAH KHAN
Associated Press

MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan — At least 20 people were killed in a missile strike near the Afghan border today, state-run Pakistan Television said.

The strike destroyed the house of a suspected militant leader, according to a local tribesman.

Seven missiles were fired in the strike in the tribal area of South Waziristan, the television report said.

Pakistan has been battling Islamic militants linked to al-Qaida and the Taliban in its regions bordering Afghanistan. The missiles were fired by an unmanned drone...

At least two hit and destroyed the home of a local militant leader and Taliban sympathizer who goes by the single name Noorullah, Khan said.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5623439.html

I believe the US took the sword primarily to defend itself from future inevitable attacks and would lay them down if the threat were removed.
That cannot be said for the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists whose goal is not peace but world domination, with all the "infidels" being forced into submitting themselves to the rule of the Islamic religion and Shiara law.

Sara.

-- March 16, 2008 12:11 PM


Sara wrote:

An OUTSTANDING polling statistic you likely have not heard about..
Fewer than TWENTY PERCENT of Americans think the US forces should be withdrawn immediately..
saying instead that the US has an obligation to remain in Iraq until stability is reached.
Gallup reports:

Americans concerned about Iraq withdrawal
Published: March 14, 2008

PRINCETON, N.J., March 14 (UPI) -- Most Americans say they are concerned that a precipitous U.S. withdrawal from Iraq would harm Iraqi civilians, a poll indicates.

A majority of respondents in a new Gallup poll said the United States has an obligation to remain in the war-torn country until stability has been reached.

The poll found that fewer than 20 percent say they believe U.S. forces should be withdrawn immediately.

Most of the poll's 2,021 respondents also said they feel that al-Qaida would be likely to use Iraq as a base for its terrorist operations if the United States withdraws its troops.

Gallup said half of respondents said a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq would increase chances for a broader war in the Middle East.

The poll was conducted Feb. 21-24. Its maximum margin of sampling error is plus or minus 2 percentage points.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/03/14/americans_concerned_about_iraq_withdrawal/7793/

In light of this, Laura.. what are your thoughts about the four Iraqi militiamen who were interviewed and favored the removal of the troops under a Democrat leader.. Are they in touch with the sentiments of the US population, or are they more in line with the sentiments of the anti-war lobby and terrorist position.. namely, that which is not in the best interests of the people of Iraq?

Sara.

-- March 16, 2008 12:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Petraeus: New Prez Pushing Ill-Advised Withdrawal Could Replace Me
By Mark Finkelstein
March 16, 2008

David Petraeus was diplomatic in his language and careful to honor the primacy of civilian authority over the military. But the commanding general of multi-lateral forces in Iraq has left little doubt that if a new president wanted to withdraw from Iraq faster than would reflect Petraeus's considered military opinion, his family would be happy to have him home.
QUOTE:

BILL WEIR: You serve at the pleasure of the president. If our new president, a year from now, says general, I want out of here in a year. What do you say? Is that even feasible?

DAVID PETRAEUS: Well I think you have to look at what the conditions on the ground are at that time, obviously, and then offer your best professional military advice. And we always have the option of allowing them to pick someone else for his or her best professional military advice. As I told congress back in the confirmation process in January of 2007, that if at any time someone wanted someone else's best professional military advice, I'd be happy to allow that to happen. I am also coming up on three-and-a-half years in Iraq on top of a year in Bosnia, so my family would be, would not be disappointed I don't think if, you know, Dad were to come home --

WEIR: Sure.

===end quote==

This could be shaping up as a key issue in the presidential campaign. My two cents say a winning campaign theme would not be: "vote Dem: I'll ignore David Petraeus's advice and replace him!"

Comments

1) Does anyone seriously by ThisnThat

Does anyone seriously believe Hillary Clinton would retain Gen. Petraeus?

Does anyone seriously believe that Obama even knows what a General does?

2) It would take... by OneZero

It would "take a willing suspension of disbelief" to believe either.

3) Hillary by allanf

I am not sure what Obama would do. He has no real track record and his associates have been shrill and extreme at times.

As for Hillary, she is savvy enough not to let herself become saddled with defeat. Her calculation would be cool, calm and strictly political.

I'd rather have a President whose calculation was based on what was best for the country.

4) Let's See . . . . by Bourbeau

Let's see, you have one pick for a military advisor, and your choices are:

a. General Wesley Clark

b. General Sanchez

c. General Petraeus

d. General Casey

Say what you want about Petraeus, you get sound advice, and a man who will deliver exactly what he tells you - it's not even close. So, we know now, he won't have any roll in a Clinton or Obama White House - how inspiring is that?

General Petraeus, he's in the same league as Colin Powell and equally impressive.

5) What Would B. O. Do? by JoelCT

If Obama told Patraeus to surrender (to who?) and retreat from Iraq, but Patraeus told Obama that it was his military opinion that this would be a disaster, what would Obama do???

6) I suspect that if any Dem were to win in November by c5then

I suspect that if any Dem were to win in November, The entire Joint Chiefs will tender their resignations on January 21, 2009.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/03/16/petraeus-new-prez-pushing-ill-advised-withdrawal-could-replace-me

-- March 16, 2008 1:36 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It may turn out to be a very interesting week inside Iraq. Parliment is scheduled to resume their duties while at the same time it seems good news is anything but in short supply. One piece of news I think important are the discussions occuring between the Iraqi Government and the Governmetn of Kuwait concerning debt. If Kuwait forgives 80% of Iraq's debt, this will be welcomed news to say the least.

Roger:

Purchasing a scanner is on the list for this week. Once I send my id and signature to Al-Warka, I shoud receive my account number and online ID. I will let you know once I begin funding my account. Concerning the ISX, I may get involved once they are fully electronic and the transactions become seamless with little to no friction. These are exciting times to be invested in the Iraqi Dinar. Question, have your applied for and received an Al-Warka debit or credit card? Just curious.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 16, 2008 9:31 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

In reference to your question of what I think about the 4 Iraqi servicemen, I do think that that interview was slanted towards the political view of the networks. I only pointed the interview out to highlight, does this small group reflect the larger Iraq?. I am having a problem believing this interview to be representative of the larger Iraqi nation.

Laura Parker

-- March 16, 2008 11:20 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Negotiations with Kuwait Airways to resolve compensation dispute

Muhammad al-Hajj Hamoud, Iraq's deputy foreign minister, disclosed on Saturday that the Iraqi government is directly negotiating with Kuwait Airways in order to resolve a dispute over compensation for damages incurred during the 1990 invasion.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 9:23 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Cheney Tries to Push Iraqi Unity
Associated Press | March 17, 2008
BAGHDAD - Vice President Dick Cheney opened a new U.S. push for political unity in Iraq on an unannounced visit Monday, just ahead of the fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion.

Cheney landed at Baghdad International Airport, then flew by helicopter into the dusty, heavily secured Green Zone for talks with U.S. military and diplomatic officials and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. It is Cheney's third vice presidential trip to Iraq where 160,000 American troops are deployed and the U.S. death toll is nearing 4,000.

Cheney's first meeting was a classified briefing with U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq who met him at the airport. Crocker and Petraeus are scheduled to travel to Washington next month to give a status report on the war.

For security reasons, Cheney officials divulged few details about the vice president's schedule and asked reporters not to report on his location until he had move on to another. Cheney was expected to make stops throughout the country, speak to troops and spend time with other Iraqi leaders.

Oman was scheduled to be the first stop on Cheney's 10-day trip to the Mideast, but on Sunday night, he left Air Force Two parked on a tarmac in England and boarded a C-17 for the final five and a half hours of the 13-hour flight to the Iraqi capital.

The future of Iraq will be discussed in his closed-door talks with leaders in Oman, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the Palestinian territory and Turkey. Cheney's discussions at each stop also will touch on Iran's nuclear program and its desire for greater influence in the region, high oil prices and the pursuit of an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal that President Bush wants to see before he leaves office.

Cheney, who is traveling with his wife, Lynne, and daughter, Liz Cheney, last visited Iraq in May 2007 before the president's buildup of more than 30,000 additional U.S. troops was in full gear. Bush dispatched the extra troops to reduce violence so Iraqi politicians could forge agreements that would bring minority Sunni Arabs into the government and weaken or end the insurgency.

Security has improved markedly since last summer when the last of the five Army brigades arrived in Iraq to complete the military buildup, but Iraqi politicians are still in gridlock.

Cheney advisers say the vice president will highlight the reduction in violence and praise the fragile Iraqi government for passing some legislation aimed at national unity. In short, Cheney will compare and contrast Iraq before and after the increase in troops. He'll tell Iraqi leaders that they are on the right track and have made strides, but that now is the time to do more.

The Iraqis do not yet have a law for sharing the nation's oil wealth among the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, a law that the Bush administration believes will trigger multinational energy companies to invest in exploration and production in Iraq.

Also unfinished is a plan for new provincial elections. Iraq's presidential council, which must give its nod to laws passed by the Iraqi parliament, rejected a plan for new elections last month, shipping it back to the legislature.

The rejection, a setback to the U.S. campaign for national reconciliation, came despite Cheney's last-minute phone call to the main holdout on the three-member panel: Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi, a Shiite. Cheney was expected to speak with Abdul-Mahdi and the other two members of the council, President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, and Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi, while in Iraq.

The war is entering its sixth year. It was on March 17, 2003, that Bush gave Saddam Hussein 48 hours to relinquish power. Three days later, U.S.-led forces began invading Iraq. The anniversary of the invasion is March 19 in the United States and March 20 in Iraq.

Bush and Cheney have just 10 months before they hand off the war to the next U.S. president.

Democratic rivals Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., have said they would begin withdrawing forces quickly if elected. Expected GOP presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who also is visiting Iraq, is more apt to continue Bush's strategy of bringing troops home only as conditions warrant.

It was unclear if Cheney and McCain would cross paths during their visits to Iraq.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 9:26 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

McCain's Iraq Trip at Crucial Time
Associated Press | March 17, 2008
BAGHDAD - Sen. John McCain, the Republican Party's presumptive nominee for president, was in the Iraq on Sunday for meetings with Iraqi and U.S. diplomatic and military officials, a U.S. government official said.

Details of McCain's visit were not being released for security reasons, the U.S. embassy said.

McCain's visit was not announced and he was believed to have been in the country for several hours before reporters were able to confirm his arrival. It was unclear who he met with and no media opportunities or news conferences were planned.

McCain, a strong supporter of the U.S. military mission in Iraq, is believed to be staying in the country for about 24 hours.

"Senator McCain is in Iraq and will be meeting with Iraqi and U.S. officials," said Mirembe Nantongo, spokesperson for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

This is his eighth visit to Iraq. He's accompanied by Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. Before the trip McCain said the visit was a fact-finding venture, not a campaign photo opportunity.

The senator last met with Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki last November during the Thanksgiving holiday.

McCain was to meet Sunday with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh. Later in the day, he and Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, were planning to talk. It was also thought McCain would meet with al-Maliki.

"We were informed that John McCain landed in Iraq Sunday morning. A meeting will take place with the Iraqi government," said Ali al-Moussawi, an official in the Iraqi prime minister's office.

There were no details immediately available about McCain's meetings and his schedule for the day apparently remained in flux, a U.S. official said on condition of anonymity as the official was not authorized to release the information.

McCain's weeklong trip also includes stops in Israel, Jordan, Britain and France.

McCain is expected to meet with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown for the first time, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy for the third time. He met and corresponded with Sarkozy both before and after the French president was elected. The two last saw each other last summer.

McCain has relationships with every leader in Israel he plans to see, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and hawkish opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu.

Ahead of the trip, McCain expressed worries that insurgents might try to influence the November presidential election with increased attacks in Iraq.

"Yes, I worry about it," he said Friday in Springfield, Pennsylvania. "And I know they pay attention, because of the intercepts we have of their communications."

McCain told reporters later that al-Qaida remains smart and adaptable despite an increase of U.S. troops in Iraq.

A defiant supporter of the 2003 invasion and President Bush's troop increase last year, McCain is likely to focus in Iraq on the drop in sectarian violence and U.S. and civilian casualties since last summer.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 9:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

France says Iraqi crisis one of worst in worldwide

PARIS, March 17 (KUNA) -- Despite reports of some progress on security and political issues, the situation in Iraq remains "extremely fragile" and requires a global approach to handle a particularly deep humanitarian crisis there, French officials say.
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 9:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Government to create 800,000 new jobs
By Hadeel al-Jawari

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15 March 2008 (Azzaman)
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The government’s announcement that it was creating 800,000 new jobs is a sigh of relief amid nearly a five-year-succession of bad news, Iraqi economists said.

They said the jobs if distributed fairly and equitable should alleviate rampant unemployment which they partly blamed for fueling the current cycle of violence in the country.

“The allocation of 800,000 jobs will certainly reduce the current high jobless rates substantially if they are distributed in an equitable and natural manner,” said Isam al-Mahawili.

The government said it was keen to slash unemployment levels in the country and use soaring oil revenues to put the nation to work.

Mahawili, one of Iraq’s top economists, said the government took the right decision, adding that reducing unemployment was “one of the most effective ways to revive the economy.”

But he warned that ambitious plans like these had little chance of success unless the government reinstated stability and peace first.

Ali Khalifa, a Baghdad University economist, described the move as the right step in the path of combating violence.

“Most of the bloody and violent events we see can be attributed to skyrocketing jobless rates in the country.

“Accommodating the jobless will contribute to stability and lead to economic prosperity,” he said.

Khalifa urged the government to encourage private sector entrepreneurs to re-open their factories most of which have been idle since the 2003 U.S. invasion.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 9:32 AM


Roger wrote:

RobN,

A scanner, good, they make a killing on selling those ink cartridges. Sometimes two or three of those cartridges are more than the cost of the scanner itself, so it might be an idea that you go over and check what cartridges have a very big ink reservoir, and cost less, or are manually refillable, and base a very big portion of your decision on that aspect of the scanner. If you are using it mostly for this transaction, you will only need black ink.

No I have not checked into the CC from Warka, I know that you can get them, I do believe that it is a "prepaid" CC, if I remember it right. It doesn't matter, because it is a very good way of consuming money here, under the red flag, and have the source of your money elsewhere.

In this moment of time it is however of lesser importance, as I feel that I have to make the money first, and have them, before I start setting myself up for consuming my money. But you're right it is a thing to check into, and once the time comes, it is one of the more interesting ways.

It for sure will take out of the loop a regular wiring of money from Iraq to your own bank account, all you are doing, is just using another CC, and if you fund it from another country, doesn't matter, you won't see that on the CC. If it is Visa or MasterCard, each use will be registered here as any other card, while the funding of it, is still your private concern.

Yes, once you have sent all the criteria to Warka, you will be getting your bank ID and a temporary code, to your account, change it to a phone number or license plate that you remember from your youth, and only you know.

Sure let me know as you go. Good luck with that scanner, get a full bottle of cartridge ink, and a syringe and fill them yourself and you will saving yourself a fortune. Those darn ink cartridges will get you, unless you are smart about if before you buy the scanner.

If you have cartridge XB 3912 C, it will not fit into XB 3912 B, and those are available only across town, but they can order it and have it here by next Friday.

Damn ink cartridges....oh well lets skip to Sara now.

Sara,

The enemy are listening, always have and always will, as they get their info from the media.

If the plan is to ratchet up the attacks before the election, in order to get a president that are more willing to withdraw, then I doubt it will work, if they are planning an attack on US soil in order to get the same result, then it will definitely fail.

We want to go home, the Iraqis want us out of there, and for sure that will be the end of that game anyway, but it will not be because Al qaeda are pushing, in fact, the very best Al qaeda could do is to stop and cease ALL activities in Iraq, do absolutely nothing, and lull us and the world into believing that it is fine, and do a total withdrawal, and once that is done, move in with full force.

To our luck, Alqaeda doesn't really run on long time strategic lines but are most prone to score and brag, thus leaving themselves open for a guided missile on their houses.

Al qaeda, is not something that have long term planning. Their followers are generally young people that wants action right now, and they have cells, that are sitting in garages and putting together car bombs, to be used within a week or so.

Iran is another animal, That is the force that can pull off another intelligence coup,(for our part, a flop), those flops have been strewn across history for long long time, and the frequency of them almost wonder what level of intelligence you must have in order to have accurate information.

I mentioned earlier some instances from the last decade only, but flops like that on a monumental scale have been forthcoming like clockwork in the past.

The Brits at the time couldn't read the American mind set, and lost it all, it could still have been British now, from the Mexican border all the way to the north pole.

Custer saw what he was up against, he had his eyes on the biggest gathering of Indian tribes ever, on the valley in front of him but didn't believe his own eyes. The valley had a gathering of many many thousands of people, some estimates in the vicinity of 10.000 people, with all the tents set up, it stretched for miles. He attacked and the resulting battle was over in minutes.

No one had an idea that Gustavus 2nd was coming with a huge fleet of hundreds of ships across the Baltic sea, landing in Germany tilting the 30 year war to a stand still, that was the demarcation war between the Catholic and Protestants.

The Soviet bought the "Star War" concept Ronald Reagan televised, and went bankrupt. Only today we have technology to realise it, we knew it then and the Ruskies didn't, so they failed with their intelligence.

Intelligence flops have been so rampant, that I have absolutely no trust in that community, and just because they are in the intelligence, they must keep secret of what and how they know it.

I strongly suspect that Chalabi was another of the intelligence flops, the guy that in big part "sold the war" to us, and once the war was done with, much of his information was very wrong, and some claims that it was slanted in such a way that it even harmed much of what we were doing. Most probably he had worked himself up to a position of authority, and what he said, was the truth, as he is after all an Iraqi.

I suspect that it wouldn't have been too hard to really get the correct information, but if someone is sitting across the desk and telling you things, there is no need to, because now you think you have the information.

Intelligence flop.

During the 2WW, the WHOLE German intelligence operation was taken over by the Brits, and runned by the Brits, without the Germans knowledge. Intelligence flop.

When it is so blatant incompetent, like the last intelligence report that the Iranians have suspended the makings of a bomb, while at the same time the Iranians openly say that they are enriching Uranium, it is past the point of funny. It is a dangerous situation where we are lulled into a thinking of being safe, while anyone with a college degree or thereabout, can say that the Iranians are lying their pants off.

That makes the whole question wide open, ...a surprise attack????

Happened before....plenty of times. Plenty, plenty.

It was a big surprise when the Germans came across the Ardennes, it was as big surprise the first time, second time , third time and fourth time they did it.

-- March 17, 2008 10:32 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

I am glad for your skepticism that the four Iraqis interviewed were representative of the populace of Iraq. I think there are ample reasons for skepticism and distrust of media coverage as the statistics in that article I quoted before "Shocker: Americans Don’t Trust The Media" where it says, ‘nearly two-thirds of Americans have no faith in campaign coverage by the news media’.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/03/dinar_discussio.html#133998

But I don't think it is just campaign coverage, which this news item certainly showed itself to be by shilling for the Democrats.. (I loved the comment about the Democrats "I approve this ad" - very true) but I see a larger worldview bias which means the biased news is not reliable as a dependable source for ANY of its agenda driven views - as another article this month says:

Network News Ratings Tumble Among Viewers Aged 18-34
By Warner Todd Huston
March 13, 2008

According to Media Life Magazine, the three big network evening news broadcasts have slipped badly in the key 18 to 34 age bracket. At the same time, though, the Cable news nets have picked up among that same demographic. All three network newscasts have lost numbers since last year, with Katie Couric having the worst slide of the three.

According to Media Life, the main reason the evening news shows have been losing so steadily is because the Internet and Cable can give news at any time the viewer is ready to take their news whereas the evening news must be specifically scheduled into the viewer's lives. Media Life claims that the 18 to 34 age group just "never got into the evening news habit" -- a pretty plausible point.

The Internet is a big factor for this age group. A recent Zogby poll found that 55 percent of 18-29s cite the internet as their primary news source... By the time 6:30 rolls around, they've gotten the story, and there's little Gibson or Williams or Couric have to add."

So what are the numbers? Here is what Media Life reported as the latest numbers through the beginning of March.

Season to date, the “CBS Evening News with Katie Couric” is down the most among 18-34s, off 21 percent from a 0.86 rating last year, to a 0.68, according to Nielsen data analyzed by Carat. In the same span, Couric has fallen 14.6 percent in 25-54s and 16 percent among 35-64s.

ABC’s “World News with Charles Gibson” has slipped 13.5 percent among 18-34s, from a 0.96 to a 0.83, while falling 5.6 percent with 25-54s and 3.3 percent with 35-64s.

NBC’s “Nightly News with Brian Williams” has dipped the least in 18-34s, where it also leads, off 10.1 percent, from a 1.09 to a 0.98. That’s compared to dips of 7.7 percent among 25-54s and 5 percent with 35-64s.

This is good news for those who would love to see TV network news gone the way of the dinosaurs. I'd say that once the Baby Boomers begin to fade into history, they will take the regular network news with them because the generations after the Boomers have little need or interest in the big three news outlets.

These falling ratings are really bad news for network news, though. They have no where to go but down unless they can figure a way to re-ignite viewership among younger viewers.

Comments

1) Although maybe a factor... by Mark_for_Senate

the internet/blogs may be a factor, but what is delicious is that apparently none of the 'executives' of these fraudulent 'news' programs even consider the fact that they lose market share simply because they produce a useless agenda driven propaganda product that only ignorant liberals consume (or tolerate).

2) Defective Product by allanf

Journalism is the only area of American commerce which produces a demonstrably defective product.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/03/13/network-news-ratings-tumble-among-viewers-aged-18-34

So that is heartening.. that even the YOUNG people don't just imbibe what the MSM big three say and believe it anymore. Like you, they are skeptical because they can see the media is agenda driven and not impartial in their news coverage. They go to the net, look for various trustworthy news viewpoints and compare what is being said before they make up their minds whether to trust the MSM news.

I think this poll data and commentary/article says it best from January of this year when it says, Americans are increasingly assuming that the "news" isn't being "reported" but that what they are being fed is meant to influence public opinion as opposed to serving to inform it.

That poll is worth quoting, particularly James Castonguay's comments (his paragraph in bold):

Poll: Only 19% of Americans Implicitly Trust Media
By Warner Todd Huston
January 9, 2008

We've seen it reflected in nearly every poll over the last 10 years or so and here is another one that confirms the downward spiral in trust of the media. In a press release for a Sacred Heart University poll, those respondents who said they believe all or most of what the media has to tell them fell 8% since 2003. >In 2003 27.4% of the poll's respondents said that they trusted all or most of what the MSM reports. In 2007 that number plummeted to just 19.6%. 23.9% said they believe little or nothing that comes out of the MSM with 55.3% saying they believe some of what the media churns out.

Ouch.

Things are are increasingly looking bad for the MSM, quote:

"The fact that an astonishing percentage of Americans see biases and partisanship in their mainstream news sources suggests an active and critical consumer of information in the U.S.," stated James Castonguay, Ph.D., associate professor and chair of SHU's Department of Media Studies & Digital Culture. "The availability of alternative viewpoints and news sources through the Internet no doubt contributes to the increased skepticism about the objectivity of profit-driven news outlets owned by large conglomerates," he continued. (end quote)

Americans are increasingly assuming that the "news" isn't being "reported" but that what they are being fed is meant to influence public opinion as opposed to serving to inform it.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/01/09/poll-only-19-americans-implicitly-trust-media

-- March 17, 2008 1:08 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger - Interesting commentary, particularly your ending, "That makes the whole question wide open, ...a surprise attack???? Happened before....plenty of times. Plenty, plenty."

That is true.. it has happened before plenty of times. But as for if it would be smart to do, I have to agree with your earlier statement, "If the plan is to ratchet up the attacks before the election, in order to get a president that are more willing to withdraw, then I doubt it will work, if they are planning an attack on US soil in order to get the same result, then it will definitely fail."

It is both of our viewpoints that an attack on US soil will definitely fail in its objective. So, in this case, I think the terrorists have a brain and can see that and won't attack. Though you point out that they have some young recruits with short agendas who want action now, I still think there is a certain degree of oversight by less trigger-happy, older and more experienced people. The US goes after just such masterminds, not those young pawns - as that recent article about a drone attack in Pakistan attests. So, if the older ones with brains are truly calling the shots and not some brash young flippy recruit, I think the US will remain safe for the entire election cycle until McCain is in the Whitehouse. Oh, about that.. today's most recent poll shows McCain ahead of both Democrats by 6 points, again, the circumstances are favorably lining up for McCain as I believe they will continue to do until he is in the Whitehouse:

Obama's national lead dropping
Had 8 point advantage over Hillary Friday, now down to 3
--Rasmussen Reports Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Monday, March 17, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain with a six-percentage point lead over both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton by an identical 48% to 42% margin. McCain has a double-digit lead over Clinton among unaffiliated voters and is essentially even with Obama among those same voters. However, McCain makes greater inroads among Democrats with Obama as the nominee.

McCain has gained ground against both Democrats in recent days as stories about Obama’s former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, have been widely discussed (see recent daily results). Wright is viewed favorably by just 8% of American voters and 73% consider his comments racially divisive.

The dialogue about Wright’s controversial comments appears to have had at least a short-term impact on public perceptions of Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator is viewed favorably today by just 47% of voters nationwide. That’s down five points since last Thursday (see recent daily results). The number with an unfavorable view of Obama has risen from 44% on Thursday to 50% today. Among White voters, Obama is now viewed favorably by 43% and unfavorably by 54%.

McCain, visiting Iraq and left out of the Democratic mudslinging, is now viewed favorably by 54%, unfavorably by 42%. Clinton is viewed favorably by 46%, unfavorably by 52%. Her unfavorable total has been at or above 50% for most of the past month (see recent daily results). Negative attitudes towards Clinton remain more firmly entrenched than for the other candidates—35% have a Very Unfavorable opinion of Clinton, 29% say the same about Obama, and 18% hold such a negative view of McCain.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

-- March 17, 2008 1:40 PM


Sara wrote:

Need I point out from that presidential poll that it says, "McCain makes greater inroads among Democrats with Obama as the nominee" - so he is gaining more support as people become disenchanted with Obama. They are going from the Obama camp to McCain's camp. It is very important to note, also, that Hillary's unfavorable total has been at or above 50% for most of the past month. I see the net gains going to McCain and away from both Democrat candidates permanently. I believe that as people become unhappy with Obama, they will continue to turn to McCain. Nobody is perfect, but McCain is the best and most responsible candidate of the three. With only 20% saying withdrawl from Iraq is worthwhile, his reasonable dialog about not pulling out of there precipitously will also help cement his lead.

These kinds of commentaries against Obama are becoming more prevalent and are worth considering for the points they bring up. As you know, we had a person post on here saying that he had proof Obama could be a Muslim. It is worth considering, in spite of his claims to the contrary. I certainly will add my voice and say that the "Jesus" Obama believes in is not the same Jesus I serve (of course I asked).

Here is that enlightening commentary:

I BELIEVE OBAMA COULD BE A MUSLIM MASK
By J. Grant Swank, Jr.
MichNews.com
Mar 16, 2008

I used to think that Barack Obama could be nothing more than a theological and political American liberal black man wanting sincerely to be President.

When I read articles wondering if he were a Muslim stooge, I discounted them as extremist. No longer.

He could be a Muslim mask.

Why do I think so?

First, he’s lived twenty years with a cultic preacher who has proclaimed hate against America. Yes, hate against America.

Jeremiah Wright has contexted that hatred against whites, but when you get right down to his rants, they are hatred against America, disrespect for America, slamming America for being responsible for 9 / 11 and so forth.

A Muslim hates America, has no regard for its Constitution, its history and is an anarchist at heart. Wright’s sermons border on if not endorse outright anarchism as blackism.

Second, Obama is a liberal to the nth degree, the left of the left in Congress. That would fit a Muslim who is for death bottom line: death to unborn babies, death to biblical definition of family and marriage, death to Judeo-Christian backdrop, death to freedom of religious expression, death to biblical morality.

Muslims live to die. They embrace death as the final glory offering to Allah.

Third, Obama does not regard the Jesus of the Bible as his Jesus. If Obama did so, he would live by Jesus’ ethic which does not include abortion and homosexual open recreation.

Muslims accept Jesus but not the Jesus of the Bible. Therefore, Obama is right in line with the Muslim definition of Jesus as he proclaims that he met Jesus in an epiphany at his Chicago church.

Fourth, Obama lies. He says he is for women. He is for aborting female womb babies. He says he is for freedom for all. He is not for freedom of the unborn. He says he is Christian. He is a liberal religionist who writes his own holy writ. He says he is a moral individual. He is pro-sodomy.

Muslims are taught that lying is a holy gift to Allah. Then Obama lies. It could be his litany of holy presents to the Muslim deity.

Fifth, Obama promises “change” and “unite.” He does not define what he means by “change.” That change could be pro-Muslim which is Islam World Rule.

That “unite” could be uniting Muslim sleeper cells and ignorant Americans around an anti-Republic overthrow.

His wife, Michelle, is a liberal lawyer who holds to the same theological and political liberal bases as Barack. They train their children likewise. This could be a Muslim mask family.

Michelle has no regard for unborn children, even endorsing partial-birth abortion as does Barack. She is for sodomy, too.

She has been angry at America until Barack’s political success. Her explosion in glee in finally being proud to be an American is evidence that prior she was angry, just as Wright preaches anger, hatred, and revolution.

Wright preaches “black liberation theology” against the “white value system” which is in other words revolution against America.

Yes, Obama could be Muslim. He had a Muslim father but did not know him, had no influence from him. That’s what he says. But can we believe Obama?

Obama’s mother was a literary elitist who was exceptionally well informed on a variety of life issues. She was a free spirit and hard working mother. She was not a religious person in that she did not hold to any particular faith.

Could it be that Obama logged into Christianity via one of the most liberal denominations in the world—the United Church of Christ—in order to find fodder there? And wedded to Wright though he now says otherwise? And indoctrinated his family in such revolutionary philosophies over twenty years?

How can a person who loves his nation tolerate such cultic messages over twenty years, joining the church, no less, and calling the speaker his mentor if that individual, Obama, were not finally anti-American?

I believe he is at heart anti-American. In that, I believe he could be a Muslim mask, disciple of Allah in disguise.

I no longer consider such a possibility extremist. It is a logical possibility.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19704.shtml

-- March 17, 2008 2:11 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Thank god for McCain !!

-- March 17, 2008 5:09 PM


Sara wrote:

As for Obama's pastor who said, "God damn America!".. when I asked the Lord Jesus whom I serve if he is one of His people, He answered me with this Scripture:

Mat 7:21 Not every one that says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name? and in Your name have cast out devils? and in Your name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

I gather from His response that all the "good works" of this social gospel pastor are not likely to curry favor with the Lord in his case in the end analysis...

It is disturbing to see the MSM ignoring these very grave and weighty matters concerning faith and the position of the church of a Presidential candidate. It is interesting how Mitt Romney's church was fair game to discuss its positions in depth and how it could affect his ability to lead the nation.. yet, it is taboo to mention the position of this church and pastor which Obama has been a part of for many years and the very man who Obama says was his mentor and has inspired him to write a book?

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CBS ‘Early Show’ Discusses Obama’s Pastor, No Mention of Most Controversial Comments
By Kyle Drennen
March 17, 2008

On Monday’s CBS "Early Show," a total of over 13 minutes of coverage was given to the controversy involving comments of Barack Obama’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, but only 16 seconds was given to play video of Wright’s comments, video which did not include some of the Reverend’s most shocking comments that September 11 was caused by U.S. foreign policy or that the AIDS virus was part of a government plot against the black community.

The conclusion to Reynolds’ report seemed to say Wright’s comments were normal and reflective of most black churches. An idea that set the tone for the rest of the coverage..
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2008/03/17/cbs-early-show-discusses-obama-s-pastor-no-mention-most-controversial-

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Blogger Patterico Calls Out LA Times Coverage of Obama-Wright
By Tom Blumer
March 17, 2008

Lead Los Angeles Times scold Patrick Frey, aka Patterico, ripped into the Times's Saturday story on Barack Obama and the sermons of Trinity United Church of Christ Pastor Jeremiah Wright, giving us yet another reason to be thankful for New Media:

Patterico accurately notes the following (bold and italics are in original):

(The Times) downplays the 20-year relationship Obama has had with the pastor, and fails to report or accurately describe the most incendiary things Wright has said. For example, the article doesn’t even bother to tell readers that Wright screamed “God damn America!” in a sermon, or that Wright suggested America deserved to get attacked on September 11. Nor does the article tell readers any details regarding the intimacy of the relationship between Wright and Obama.

A reader unfamiliar with the facts will come away with exactly the impression that Obama wants to convey: that 1) Wright is nothing more than the pastor of Obama’s church; 2) Wright has merely spoken forcefully about racism in this country; and 3) McCain has had a similar problem in being linked to a religious figure with objectionable views.
Well, gee then, what’s the big deal??

..... (The article) says merely that Wright “drew parallels between the tragedy of the Sept. 11 attacks and the suffering of blacks through years of American history.” Wright did much more than that; he suggested that this country deserved to be attacked on September 11. In his first sermon after September 11, he mocked the idea that we would be “indignant” about the attacks, screaming out: “America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” You can view the footage in Brian Ross’s report on Rev. Wright (url below).

The editors know that this statement by Wright is poisonous to Obama’s campaign — but somehow, they don’t get around to mentioning it.

..... Obama’s campaign must be thrilled with the “scrutiny” of this L.A. Times article.

Other things that Patterico didn't mention in Scott Martelle's report (I'm not going to say he missed them, because when it comes to monitoring the Times, he misses very little) include these:

- The mandatory "mean Republicans will jump on this" citation -- "'It's the kind of thing that in the general election the Republicans will really work him over on,' (Clinton Democratic strategist David) Doak said."
- An attempt to equate a controversy over a supporter's previous statements to one over a pastor and 20-year mentor -- Martelle spent six paragraphs on John McCain's endorsement by San Antonio-based pastor John Hagee. McCain, in case Martelle forgot, is from Arizona, doesn't attend Hagee's church, hasn't called him a "mentor," and hasn't written a book whose title was inspired by the preacher.
- Holding more bad news which should have been at least mentioned earlier in the piece until the very end -- news, reported by the Chicago Tribune, that longtime Obama fundraiser and now-indicted Tony Rezko had raised a great deal more money for Obama than previously thought.

It is coverage like that seen in the Times, which in this case I would call a "Wright-wash," that makes one grateful for New Media watchdogs like Patterico.

—Tom Blumer is a CPA based in Mason, Ohio and a contributing editor to NewsBusters

Comments

1) almost no coverage of his most crazy statements by dronetek

I've heard almost nothing about the fact he blames white people for creating the AIDS virus.

2) Future Obama statements to be embraced by the MSM by Mica the Magnificent

Future Obama statements to be embraced by the MSM

1) I support my pastor, but not his message

2) I just figured out what the problem is: Pastor Jeremiah Wright has a twin brother also named Pastor Jeremiah Wright, kinda like George Forman's sons are all named George, but this Jeremiah preaches love for all races and love for America. He was my preacher.

3) I spoke to Jeremiah about his 'America deserved 9/11' and you should have seen his reaction; "Did I say that?' What he meant to say is America deserves 7 Eleven if they insist on buying from that convenience store chain with their high mark-ups.

Bonus clarification:

This is the first time I've been proud of America. --What Michelle was really talking about was the 70's rock group America. She hated that band until I made her listen to the lyrics of Sister Goldenhair. Now she not only loves that group, she is proud of that group.

3) The Obamas by iveseenitall

Michelle and BO are arrogant children of the 80's. They've been brainwashed into the victimhood mentality of many blacks. They have a deep seeded resentment toward white people in particular and America in general. For example,"Teach more African American history" is what he just said a high school stop. He's got to be kidding. Our kids don't know much about American history in general, but I'll bet many more of them could identify Martin Luther King than they could Benedict Arnold. And look at Michelle's "thesis", a "we must stand together against oppressive whitey" tome if I ever read one.There is much more than meets the eye, or is being reported in the MSM, concerning these two young, angry, radical socialists. But ironically, they think the are "entitled" to the White House. What a joke.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

4) “America’s chickens by motherbelt

“America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”

Isn't that exactly the same thing that Ward Churchill said, which caused great outrage? Why is it suddenly just harmless rheotric when it's in the mouth of a black preacher?

And yeah, that's right, LA Times, the problem is not what he said, but what those mean nasty Republicans will try to do with it. And of course, whenever there's a Democrat scandla, they always protray it as a "bipartisan" problem, no matter how hard they have to work to bring a Republican into it.

4) The reaction of the congregation by nwahs

Brit Hume hit the nail on the head when noting the reaction of the congregation to these comments. If the comments were aberrations as Obama contends, why in the world did the congregation go wild in excitement (literally backslapping Wright) instead of grumble?

Only a fool would believe anti-American sentiment is ( or "was" now as I expect them to walk on egg shells for the rest of the campaign) unusual in that church. The reaction of the crowd to anti-American and racist statements makes it impossible to believe that ideology is uncommon or unwelcome in that community.

5) Tom. LA Times is hiding a view about the Clinton's by Gary Hall

Tom. Very good analysis. In addition, it appears that a part of this LA Times' effort here is the all to common want to hide certain truths about the Clinton's from the reader (the voters).

The Rev. Wright, in one of the aired clips, is seen screaming with hatred, as he thrusts his hips forward repeatedly, suggesting that Bill Clinton had f_____ed the black community just as he did Monica...
QUOTE:

Rev.Wright: Hillary is married to Bill and Bill have been good to us? No, he ain't! Bill did us just like he did Monica Lewinsky!

Congregation: (cheers)

Rev.Wright: He was riding dirty!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMWfQl_Qeg

Actually, it's not such a a rare statement from the leftist black community. Such was written and said often during and just after the Clinton era -- just was not a heck of a lot of interest from the MSN to get the information out to the voters.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/03/17/blogger-patterico-calls-out-la-times-coverage-obama-wright

-- March 17, 2008 11:10 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq invasion was "successful endeavour": Cheney
March 18, 2008

BAGHDAD: U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney declared the 2003 U.S. led invasion of Iraq a "successful endeavour" during a visit to Baghdad.

"If you look back on those five years it has been a difficult, challenging but nonetheless successful endeavour and it has been well worth the effort," Cheney, an architect of the invasion, said after meeting Iraqi leaders, US media reported on Tuesday.

Cheney arrived as Republican presidential candidate John McCain was meeting Iraqi leaders as part of a Senate Armed Services Committee fact-finding mission.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=40731

===

Cheney calls US support for Iraq unwavering
Tuesday, March 18, 2008

* US vice president describes Iraq changes as phenomenal and dramatic

BAGHDAD: US Vice President Dick Cheney declared Washington’s unwavering support for Iraq during a surprise visit to Baghdad on Monday.

Cheney, on a visit aimed at highlighting security gains and promoting political progress, said he had been sent by President George W Bush to thank Iraqi leaders for their efforts in steering the country towards democracy.

He was in Baghdad, he added, to “reaffirm to the Iraqi people the unwavering commitment of the United States to support them in finishing the difficult work that lies ahead”.

Phenomenal changes: “It’s especially significant I think to be able to return this week as we mark the fifth anniversary of the beginning of the campaign that liberated the people of Iraq from Saddam Hussein’s tyranny and launched them on the difficult but historic road to democracy,” Cheney said after meeting Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. Cheney said he sensed “phenomenal changes” since his last visit 10 months ago and described security gains as “dramatic”. He also held talks with the top US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, and US ambassador Ryan Crocker.

Cheney’s visit is the first stop on a nine-day tour of the Middle East and beyond, with scheduled landings in Oman, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the West Bank, and Turkey. A senior administration official told reporters accompanying Cheney that the vice president would tell the Iraqis “they need to continue to show some progress” on legislation seen as key to defusing sectarian strife.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\03\18\story_18-3-2008_pg4_2

-- March 17, 2008 11:24 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

What do you guys and girls think about the following article foun on upi? I am interested in your thoughts.
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There's about $27 billion at the U.S. Federal Reserve to stabilize Iraq's currency.

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WASHINGTON, March 17 (UPI) -- Iraq's oil law debate is political, not technical, a top U.S. official said, adding Iraq has tagged billions of dollars to boost oil production regardless.

Charles Ries, U.S. State Department minister for economic affairs and coordinator for economic transition in Iraq, said the proposed law isn't necessary for Iraq to produce oil "but it would clearly be much, much better and incentivize private investment to help Iraq produce more if a bill would pass."

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney is in Iraq Monday and said he's pressing Iraqi leaders to move the controversial legislation forward.

Ries said Iraq has set aside $2.5 billion for Technical Support Agreements over the next two years. TSAs, being negotiated with BP, Shell, ExxonMobil, Chevron and Total, would see a transfer of technology, expertise and training to Iraq's oil sector.

Further down the road, Ries said Iraq will sign production-sharing agreements to develop areas not currently producing.

"That is the likely course for the upstream industry in Iraq," Ries said, pointing to Syria and Indonesia as examples of countries that utilize PSAs to garner investment. He said "all parties, with a few exceptions of parties that are not in government," back PSAs.

Iraq's oil workers and civil society groups, as well as members of Parliament, have come out against PSAs, fearing Iraqis won't get their fair share. Some MPs have said they'd be OK with PSAs in certain situations, but not all, and only if the percentage for companies is low enough.

The PSA is a favorite of international oil companies, reimbursing it for expenses and guaranteeing it a percentage cut of oil for usually decades-long deals. It's compensation for the risk of exploring and coming up empty, say the companies, which can add the reserves when Wall Street looks at its books. But Iraq is not like Syria or Indonesia. It holds the world's third-largest reserves despite being vastly underexplored. Those in search have higher percentage of finds than in other countries, and what they get is usually highest quality, thus less expensive to produce, transport and refine.

The contract model itself, which will determine the extent of foreign involvement in the currently nationalized oil sector, is one sticking point in approving the law. The other is a power struggle between the majority in the central government and Iraq's Kurds and others.

"The oil and gas law from a technical standpoint is largely done," Ries said. "The problem relates to the distribution of power and autonomy in the federal structure." He refused to offer a prediction for its passage.

The Kurdistan Regional Government insists on a decentralized governing structure over the oil and gas instead of the national government. The law is stuck in Parliament's Energy Committee.

An official told reporters en route to Iraq Cheney will press government officials to approve the oil law in order to facilitate foreign oil companies' entry to Iraq. He said the constitution, which is accused of being too vague and thus creating the oil law dispute, does not need to be amended first.

Iraq is producing about 2.4 million barrels per day and exporting about 1.9 million bpd. Sales brought in $41 billion last year. With increased output and higher oil prices oil exports have fetched $11.6 billion through the first 10 weeks of 2008, according to the State Department's Iraq Weekly Status Report.

Iraq's oil reserves could handle producing much more -- the Oil Ministry has a 6 million bpd goal for 2012 and some say 10 million bpd is feasible, even without bringing online oil fields not yet found. The producing fields need to be fixed and modernized and workers retrained after decades of Saddam Hussein's mismanagement, U.N. sanctions and war. This will take tens of billions of dollars.

Iraq has been trashed by members of Congress here in Washington for not investing enough of its own funds -- a mostly misguided attack. Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and John Warner, R-Va., have asked the Government Accountability Office to look into what banks Iraq stores its revenue in (Answer: the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, per U.N. mandate), how much is going to reconstruction and what is America's contribution to the rebuilding effort. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., on the campaign trail Monday, reiterated such concerns.

They could have just asked Ries. Of the $49 billion FY 2008 budget, $13 billion is pegged for capital investment and more than $3 billion is heading to the Oil Ministry, he said. Iraq still lacks the capacity to actually spend the funds, according to previous years. Ries said 2007 will see 60 percent of capital budgets spent when the final numbers are in, though a GAO report in January questioned the figures provided by the U.S. State and Treasury departments and the Iraqi Finance Ministry. Regardless, it has increased the allocation.

"They are paying several orders of magnitude more of the cost of reconstruction than we are now," Ries said. "Iraq's oil revenues are all being spent on the Iraqi government, both operating expenditures and reconstruction," he said. There's about $27 billion at the U.S. Federal Reserve to stabilize its currency.

"We spent somewhere between $4 and $5 billion in the oil sector in five years. And they're spending $3 and a half (billion)," he said, adding there's no new U.S. spending in the oil sector.

He said the State Department is focusing its effort away from "bricks and mortar" to capacity building.
(http://www.upi.com/International_Sec...olitical/2837/)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 17, 2008 11:48 PM


Sara wrote:

Well, Rob N, the first thing from that article I most enjoyed was where Vice President Cheney said "the constitution, which is accused of being too vague and thus creating the oil law dispute, does not need to be amended first." I have been concerned that it is the cause of the delay.. but as this article shows, QUOTE "Iraq's oil law debate is political, not technical."

The PSAs or Production Sharing Agreements whereby the oil companies would come into Iraq and develop their resources using the skills Iraqis lack covers the oil company's costs, possible production losses and also the risk they take setting up in an unstable climate. The main thing they are seeking to secure is a royalty scheme where both parties win.

The statement which said, quote, "Iraq's oil workers and civil society groups, as well as members of Parliament, have come out against PSAs, fearing Iraqis won't get their fair share.".. that statement is interesting.. in light of the Iraqis who agreed PSAs should be tabled saying, "only if the percentage for companies is low enough." Certainly, no one appears to be concerned that the oil companies might not get their fair share. I suppose it is a two way street, with bargaining going on with both sides for a deal where the percentage is high enough and profitable enough for both sides to be induced to do business. The pressures on the oil companies to go below their costs just to secure a deal in "oil rich" Iraq should not be used by unscrupulous Iraqis to force the oil companies into losing money on these deals. I would hope they can negotiate in good faith so both sides can prosper from a long-term agreement they both can live with.

Certainly, the press stories all show Iraq as the "poor guys" looking for a fair deal from the "bad, rich guys" in the oil companies (example - "only if the percentage for companies is low enough"). I suggest the reality is that the Iraqis are playing on the oil companies desire to get into Iraq in hopes of getting something for close to nothing. The entire news slants it that way.. "give in so we can get the better part of the deal" is the message I see the Iraqis pushing. And at least part of the reason things remain stalled is because these Iraqi elements are asking the sun, moon, stars and profitability of Iraqi PSA contracts before they are willing to let the oil go to production. I believe they traded horses the same way, years back.. and were known for their (hardnosed and sometimes unreasonable) bargaining tactics then??

As for the other factor given of "a power struggle between the majority in the central government and Iraq's Kurds and others" relating to "the distribution of power and autonomy in the federal structure." I think they can work out a deal amongst themselves about how to divvy up the pie once they know what their share of it will be.

For now, the Iraqis are seeking to exploit the shortness of time and the pressures on the oil companies in order to make them compromise with them to get PSA contracts at a very cut rate from what the normal PSAs are in the world. Again, I think of these oil deals as having a lot to do with why the US felt it would be worthwhile to go into Iraq and take out Saddam. The US felt it would be a paying proposition to do so, and part of that would be revenues and taxes derived from these oil contracts. As I read it, the US has expended a huge $500 BILLION into Iraq so far.. I think they deserve consideration in these contracts for "treading out the corn" (or oil) as very faithful oxen (Deut 25:4, 1 Cor 9:9, 1 Tim 5:18). I read with a sickening feeling in my stomach how they wish the oxen to be muzzled and no PSAs at all.. or only VERY LOW profits.. when I think of the cost of getting that production "in total" - considered from the US side of the ledger. In the big world of politics, those who receive a favor are often required to give one. I think the Iraqis could use a lesson in graciousness instead of high pressure salesmanship and excessive protectionism.

By all means, let the Iraqis bargain for a fair share of the PSAs.. but it should not be all a one way street with no consideration for what blood, sweat and tears the US of A has put in place to secure their freedom, security and future prosperity. And, they should not be allowed to sway ANYONE into thinking the US does not deserve the PSAs which were part of the inducement for going in. It isn't evil, it is business and the Iraqis received a lot of value with the US going in and taking out Saddam.. the US was greatly used in that scenerio as the Hand of God, as His oxen, treading out for the Iraqis the corn which will provide their tables for years to come.. along with peace and freedom. That is something they are morally obligated to remember in negotiating these PSAs, IMO... and I think they will rue the day if they do not consider such a moral obligation, as God sees all and notes ingrates.

Sara.

-- March 18, 2008 12:12 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Tuesday , 18 /03 /2008 Time 8:05:04

Baghdad, Mar 18, (VOI) – Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said on Tuesday that reconciliation is all parties' life buoy and represents a top priority for the government in the current stage.


"The reconciliation initiative would help tell the enemy from the friend as it indicates who stands in favor of the people's interests and who stands against them," Maliki said in an inaugural speech before the political powers conference on national reconciliation in Baghdad on Tuesday.
"Reconciliation is not as some understand. It is not a matter of win-or-lose calculations. Reconciliation has realized many successes although many parties cast doubts over it," he said.
"Dialogue has rapidly become a feature characterizing the current stage and rendered a failure the schemes of the skeptics who wanted to have reconciliation as a way to bring back the one-party system," said Maliki.
The Iraqi premier pointed out that reconciliation helped form 29 Sahwa (Awakening) councils and 13 others pending formation, adding those councils offer support for the government organizations.
"Reconciliation helped contain more than 50,000 armed men and now serve in the pro-government Sahwa councils."
The Sahwa councils were set up in a number of Iraqi provinces like al-Anbar, Diala, Ninewa and Salah al-Din with the aim of mustering political and local tribal powers to fight armed groups, particularly al-Qaeda network, in those areas.
These councils are usually led by tribal chiefs or notables in the provinces.
The Sahwa tribal fighters managed to flush out armed groups from a number of areas once considered strongholds of gunmen for years.
"Some 78,000 of the former army were brought back to serve in the current army, 21,000 of them were referred to retirement upon their own wish. The enactment of the two important laws of justice & accountability and general pardon had an effective role as to tell the good Baathist from the bad Baathist," said the premier.
"More than 3,500 suspects and convicts so far have benefited from the general pardon law. Reconciliation helped defuse a civil war in Iraq that was about to erupt after the bombing of the two holy shrines in Samarra."
The two tombs of Imams Ali al-Hadi and Hassan al-Aaskari, figures highly revered by Shiite Muslims, came under attack by gunmen who blew up the shrine's golden dome in February 2006, sparking waves of sectarian violence that pushed Iraq close to the brink of a civil war.
In June 2007, the shrine came under a second bombing attack that destroyed its two minarets, sparking angry demonstrations in several parts of Iraq and prompting the authorities to impose a curfew in Baghdad and Samarra for three days.
Maliki said the situation in Iraq "needs more joint work to build on the successes achieved thanks to the reconciliation process."
"The second stage of reconciliation is one of reconstruction, to which the government allocated large sums from this year's state budget of $48 billion."
He deplored the approach adopted by some political powers in the country.
"Some political powers have pursued a policy of threats and ministers withdrawal, which enormously harmed national reconciliation. But for the sense of patriotism of the rest of the ministers who ran their own ministries and those of the quitting ministers, unfavorable outcome would have been in place."
Ali al-Dabbagh, the spokesman for the Iraqi government, had a few days ago said the national reconciliation conference would be held to activate the role of the different powers in the political process for more positive contribution to the national reconciliation initiative.
In June 2006 Maliki announced an initiative to achieve national reconciliation involving the holding of conferences for political and tribal powers as well as non-governmental organizations.
The first conference was held in December 2006.

(http://66.111.34.180/look/english/ar...=2&NrSection=1)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 12:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tue Mar 18, 2008

By Waleed Ibrahim and Mohammed Abbas

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A conference to reconcile Iraq's warring political groups began to unravel even before it got under way on Tuesday, with the main Sunni Muslim Arab bloc pulling out and protesting it had not been properly invited.

Hundreds of politicians gathered for the conference a day after Vice President Dick Cheney, on a visit marking the fifth anniversary of the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion, hailed what he called "phenomenal" political and security improvements.

The war has cost the United States $500 billion since it began. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed and millions displaced. Almost 4,000 U.S. soldiers have also been killed in the war, a major issue in November's U.S. presidential election.

The boycott by the Sunni Arab Accordance Front, a Shi'ite bloc and smaller groups underlined that while Iraq is no longer on the verge of a sectarian civil war, there are still deep divisions between Shi'ites and Sunnis, Iraq's main Muslim sects.

Sunni Arabs, a minority in Iraq, are upset that long-held grievances remain largely unanswered. Dominant under Saddam Hussein, they now complain of marginalization and want greater political representation, more say in security matters and the release of thousands of Sunnis held in Iraqi prisons.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki gave an upbeat assessment despite Tuesday's setbacks, saying the nation was now healed after sectarian violence that threatened civil war.

"Peace has been achieved between Sunni and Shi'ite ... the crisis when people were being killed because of their religious identity is over," Maliki told the conference.

Washington has urged Iraq's leaders to match improvements in national security with political progress on legislation meant to reconcile majority Shi'ites and Sunni Muslims.

The Accordance Front pulled out of Maliki's Shi'ite-led government of national unity last August over its demands, plunging the government into crisis.

That withdrawal was followed by walkouts from other blocs, severely hampering the government's ability to pass legislation set by Washington as benchmarks in promoting reconciliation.

On Tuesday, Front spokesman Salim al-Jubouri complained that the bloc had not been properly invited to the reconciliation conference at a convention centre in Baghdad's heavily fortified "Green Zone," which houses the government and the U.S. embassy.

He also said the Front decided not to attend because resolutions from other past conferences had not been acted upon.

"How can we now arrange new proposals?" Jubouri said.

PROPAGANDA

Politicians loyal to anti-U.S. Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr also pulled out of the government last year over its refusal to set a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops.

The parliamentary leader of the Sadrist bloc, Nassar al-Rubaie, attended the conference's opening, but the Sadrists later pulled out.

"Such conferences are just government propaganda," Rubaie told Reuters.

Almost all of Iraq's major political groups had said they would take part in the conference, many expressing hope progress would be made this time because of the security gains.

In opening remarks to the conference, Maliki criticized those who had stayed away.

"We seriously regret that others will only stand watching, and others try to bring down the political progress and hamper the work of the government at a time when their patriotic duty requires them to help the government," Maliki said.

Attacks across Iraq have fallen by 60 percent since last June, the U.S. military says, when a build-up of an extra 30,000 U.S. troops became fully deployed.

But there has been an upsurge in violence, mainly suicide bombings, since January.

Iraqi security officials said the death toll from a bombing in the holy Shi'ite city of Kerbala, south of Baghdad, on Monday had risen to at least 47, with another 75 wounded.

The U.S. military has blamed the attack on a suicide bomber wearing a vest packed with explosives, although police said it was likely a roadside bomb planted outside a cafe.

(Additional reporting by Aseel Kami, Aws Qusay and Ahmed Rasheed in Baghdad; Writing by Paul Tait; Editing by Richard Balmforth)

(http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...BrandChannel=0)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 12:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Cheney says U.S. will complete mission in Iraq
By Tabassum Zakaria
Mar 18, 2008

BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq (Reuters) - The United States intends to complete its mission in Iraq and will not allow the country to become a staging ground for terrorist attacks on Americans, U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney said on Tuesday.

"All Americans can be certain that we intend to complete the mission so that another generation of Americans does not have to come back here and do it again," Cheney told about 3,000 U.S. troops at Balad Air Base 70 km (45 miles) north of Baghdad.

Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are campaigning to bring U.S. troops home while the presumptive Republican candidate, John McCain, supports keeping troops in Iraq until it is more stable.

Cheney, visiting Iraq to assess the success of a U.S. troop build-up, on Monday called the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq a "successful endeavor" and promised Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki the unwavering support of the United States.

"We have no intention of abandoning our friends or allowing this country of 170,000 sq km to become a staging ground for further attacks against Americans," Cheney, an architect of the 2003 invasion, told the soldiers at Balad.

The Bush administration has said that leaving Iraq too soon would undercut security gains and allow al Qaeda militants there to regroup, potentially posing a future threat to the United States.

OIL LAW

Cheney later flew to Arbil, capital of Iraq's largely autonomous Kurdistan region, for talks with Kurdish leader Masoud Barzani, whose fellow Kurds are holding up passage of a law on sharing Iraq's vast oil reserves.

Washington sees the oil law as crucial to fostering national reconciliation, but the law is stalled amid arguments over whether the central government or regional authorities should control production and exploration of oil fields.

"We are certainly counting on President Barzani's leadership to help us conclude a new strategic relationship between the United States and Iraq, as well as to pass crucial pieces of national legislation in the months ahead," Cheney said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4471795

-- March 18, 2008 12:34 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

A suggestion allowing private banks to open up a clearing with American banks

A financial expert stressed that Iraqi private banks need to be supported by the State to enable them from doing their part in the building and reconstruction campaigns which are about to start.

The financial advisor to the Bank of North, Maan Ghanim Abdul Jaleel, said that the decision to raise the amounts of credits for private banks to two million dollars is an encouraging step and good for activating the role of these banks, but it is not up to the ambition. As for the type of support required, he said that it is a proposal adopted by private banks asking the is the Iraqi Central Bank to allow them to open a clearing with American banks in order to raise them up to the real competition with global banks which are awaiting the launching of reconstruction.

He explained that the procedures of granting banks credits insurance of %10 as guarantees payment are just paper transactions carried out by banks in return for simple currencies, and these procedures can not develop banks. He said that the way of feeding our assets abroad by the Central Bank was set at 4 -5 days and this hinders some business transactions through influencing the price rise, as seen in the world market, causing some losses, so he proposed to reduce the period to two days.

As for the possibility of the return of immigrant Iraqi capitals working in neighboring countries, he said that these funds can be encouraged to return through the support of banks to give facilities to Iraqi businessmen to return to work with the Iraqi banks. He pointed out that banks in neighboring countries are taking advantage of the clearing they have with American banks to attract capitals, including Iraqi funds, because of the encouraging privileges they enjoy.
(www.dinartrade.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 1:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Baghdad Municipality builds roads, highways

Dr. Sabir al-Eisawi, mayor of Baghdad, said that authorities in the capital have set aside a budget of IQD 520 billion to develop the roads and highways sector in the capital, stressing advanced completion stages have been achieved in the project for rebuilding the Sarrafiyya Bridge.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 1:27 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Reconciliation conference committees to discuss sovereignty, says Bayati 18/03/2008 18:50:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The committees formed by the national reconciliation conference will undertake discussing the issue of the country's sovereignty, according to the United Iraqi Alliance MP Abbas al-Bayati.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 1:28 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

McCain upbeat about war on visit to Iraq
By Patrick Cockburn

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Baghdad, 18 March 2008 (The Independent)
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Helicopter gunships circled overhead and checkpoints choked traffic in the streets, but the US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, and the Republican presidential nominee, John McCain, were in Baghdad yesterday to give upbeat accounts of improving security.

Mr Cheney said he sensed "phenomenal changes" and "dramatic" security gains since he last visited 10 months ago. "I am happy to say," said Mr McCain, "Americans are more and more understanding of the success of this strategy of the surge".

Contrary to these optimistic forecasts, a female suicide bomber blew herself up in the Shia holy city of Kerbala yesterday, killing at least 40 people.

With their heavy security and meetings with Iraqis mostly confined to the Green Zone, it would scarcely have been evident to either American politician that the Iraqi capital is divided into hostile townships of Sunni and Shia. The top US commander General David Petraeus complained last week that security gains had not been matched "by sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation".

This is scarcely surprising. Paradoxically, it was largely because Sunni and Shia Iraqis had come to hate each other more than they did the Americans that the Sunni insurgents switched sides at the end of 2007. They formed al-Sahwa (the Awakening Councils) and allied themselves with their former American enemies.

They did so because of hostility to al-Qa'ida, but above all because the minority Sunni community was being overwhelmed by the Shia. The formation of the 80,000-strong al-Sahwa militia is the most important reason for the optimism of Mr Cheney and Mr McCain. Armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles, the brown-uniformed militiamen belonging to the movement search cars at the entrance and exit points to Sunni areas.

Mr McCain said yesterday that "al-Qa'ida are on the run, but they are not defeated". But in parts of Baghdad al-Sahwa is often al-Qa'ida in Iraq in a new guise rather than a reaction against it.

"Al-Qa'ida think they can become an official militia through al-Sahwa," said Ibrahim Mohammed Abdullah, 35, an al-Sahwa militiaman in the al-Khadra district that was formerly an al-Qa'ida stronghold. "They can gather information on the police commandos and tip off anybody who is going to be arrested."

Other al-Sahwa members confirm this. Saleh Jabar Mohsin, 21, a former student, explained the recent wave of assassinations of al-Sahwa members. "We know," he said, "that anybody from al-Sahwa who has been killed, was shot because he really was working against al-Qa'ida or other Islamic groups. A second reason might be that he had refused to play a dual role [working for both the Americans and al-Qa'ida]."

Sunni and Shia now each have their own rival security forces presided over by Americans. The growth of al-Sahwa under US auspices may have reduced violence, but has also made Iraq more divided.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 1:38 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iran's president looking vulnerable
Parliamentary vote highlights deep split among conservatives
Lee Keath, Associated Press

Tuesday, March 18, 2008

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(03-18) 04:00 PDT Tehran --

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may be vulnerable when he stands for re-election next year, after Iranian parliamentary elections showed discontent among fellow conservatives.

The president does have a major advantage: support from Iran's supreme leader. A key question will be whether Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's backing lasts until presidential elections expected in the summer of 2009.

Conservatives maintained their hold on the parliament in Friday's election, but their camp is split over Ahmadinejad. His conservative opponents won a solid bloc that will likely clash with the president over the next year.

Reformists also managed to preserve their presence even though most of their candidates were barred from the race.

"If the government continues the policies that have been controversial, the majority of the parliament will be against it," said Amir Ali Amiri, spokesman of the Inclusive Coalition of Principlists, an election slate of conservatives who have broken with the hard-line president.

2 possible challengers
Amiri said the coalition might put forward a candidate for the presidency, but said "we must wait" until the political situation becomes clearer, according to the semi-official ISNA news agency.

Two men are seen as top possibilities to challenge Ahmadinejad: Tehran Mayor Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and former nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, who won a parliament seat in the election.

The strength of Ahmadinejad's conservative opponents likely won't mean changes in Iran's tough line toward the United States.

They support pushing ahead with Iran's nuclear program despite U.N. sanctions. But they also oppose Ahmadinejad's inflammatory rhetoric, which they say has provoked the West. Some seek greater pragmatism in dealing with the outside world.

The economy has been Ahmadinejad's weakest point. Jumps in inflation have at least doubled prices for some foods over the past year, and unemployment is believed by some economists to be around 15 percent. And the public has been angered by gas rationing and heating oil shortages during the unusually cold winter.

Ahmadinejad's critics say his economic policies have been haphazard and only made the situation worse.

Amiri said his camp will seek to elect Larijani as parliament speaker - a post now held by an Ahmadinejad ally - and oppose the current deputy speaker, who is widely seen as the brain behind the president's rise to power.

Khamenei's support
Still, Khamenei has become more overt in his backing for Ahmadinejad, despite grumblings in the conservative camp. The supreme leader, as head of Iran's clerical leadership, has final word in all state matters.

Khamenei tries to stay above factional disputes in public, but took the unusual step before the election of expressing strong support for the president.

One reason may be the nuclear issue. Khamenei has praised Ahmadinejad's handling of the matter, and the clerical powers may see him as best able to stand up to the West.

For Iran's clerical establishment, conservatives' squabbling appeared to be secondary to the greater priority - preventing reformists from exploiting anger at Ahmadinejad over the economy to make big gains in the legislature.

Ahead of the vote, the cleric-run Guardian Council disqualified some 1,700 candidates. Reformists could only run in about half the races nationwide.

Reformists also questioned the strong showing of hard-liners for the 30 seats in Tehran, where public support for the reform movement is believed strongest. In final results announced Monday on state radio, Ahmadinejad allies won 19 of its seats; the rest will be decided in a run-off in April or May.

Reformists demanded the Interior Ministry make public the count from each of the capital's polling sites.

"How it can be that reformists won 30 percent of the seats in the rural areas, but (none so far) in the capital, where reformists enjoy more media support," National Confidence, the paper of a reformist party of the same name, said in an editorial.

Nationwide, including Tehran, 132 of parliament's 290 seats went to conservatives. Around 90 went to the list dominated by pro-Ahmadinejad hard-liners and the rest to the Inclusive Coalition, according to results announced by state television and the official news agency IRNA.

Reformists won 31 seats, according to the results. Thirty-nine winners were independents whose political leanings are not known .

More than 70 seats outside Tehran will be decided in the upcoming run-off.
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/18/MNE3VLBSD.DTL)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 1:40 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

The article you posted just now is a complete joke.
The one entitled, "Iran's president looking vulnerable - Parliamentary vote highlights deep split among conservatives" and says ominously "President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may be vulnerable when he stands for re-election next year, after Iranian parliamentary elections showed discontent among fellow conservatives."

Give me a break!!

Did you notice that the Reformists demanded a public count of the polls (like, they are NOT PUBLIC.. GET IT??)
Quote:

Reformists demanded the Interior Ministry make public the count from each of the capital's polling sites.

"How it can be that reformists won 30 percent of the seats in the rural areas, but (none so far) in the capital, where reformists enjoy more media support," National Confidence, the paper of a reformist party of the same name, said in an editorial.

Nationwide, including Tehran, of parliament's 290 seats ... Reformists won 31 seats, according to the results.

===

Would you like to know WHY the Reformists did so poorly in these farcical elections?
Here you go:

Outside View: Lift ban on Iran opposition
Published: Feb. 8, 2008
By LORD DHOLAKIA
UPI Outside View Commentator

LONDON, Feb. 8 (UPI) -- On Jan. 24, the Iranian regime's Interior Ministry announced that more than 2,000 so-called reformists had been disqualified from running in the upcoming parliamentary elections, effectively ensuring that allies of the regime's ultra-conservative president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would retain and perhaps strengthen their hold on the 290-seat Parliament come March 14.

The announcement came less than 48 hours after the U.N. Security Council's permanent five members and Germany reached an agreement to impose new sanctions on the regime over its refusal to abandon its uranium enrichment activities in line with demands by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The international community is right to be concerned about the regime's illegal activities on the global arena, but it should pay an equally warranted level of attention to the mullahs' domestic clampdown on dissent.

In January, state media reported authorities amputated the hands and legs of five individuals for being "mohareb" (or "waging war on God"), a charge often leveled against political opponents of the Islamic Republic. Over the past 27 years, the theocratic dictatorship has executed more than 120,000 of its political opponents, mostly affiliated with the main democratic opposition movement People's Mojahedin Organisation of Iran.

Recently, I was witness to footage smuggled out by Iranian exiles of women being beaten by security forces in Iran. The face covered in blood of one of the women I saw reminded me of the enormous price the Iranian people are paying for freedom.

Rajavi has said time and again that neither war nor appeasement is the solution to the Iranian problem. She states unequivocally that there is a third option: support for the Iranian people and resistance to bring about democratic change in Iran. At a time when the mullahs' regime has become the main international pariah, we should heed Rajavi's wise words....

http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Emerging_Threats/Analysis/2008/02/08/outside_view_lift_ban_on_iran_opposition/1315/

As predicted in this article, by eliminating physically by death or disqualifying all but a few token reformists.. then not allowing any public scrutiny of the polling results, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did retain his grip on power.. as the dictator of Iran he is. The elections are a farce, and the supposed headline "Iran's president looking vulnerable" is for the gullible to imbibe along with their beers as they turn to watching American Idol instead of dealing with the true issues of our time. God help us all.. may we not be so deceived as to believe this propaganda our "watchdog media" hold forth as truth, and so be lulled into sleep until this not-sleeping tiger chooses his time to stike at our homeland.

Sara.

-- March 18, 2008 3:41 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

That was not meant in any way as derisive or negative about you doing the posting of that article.. (I wasn't attacking you personally) It is just that the article you quoted is written in such a way as to lend a degree of credibility to the Iranian farce of a government as though it represents the will of the people when it clearly does not. Killing and disqualifying the opposition is hardly a democratic process. Sorry if it appeared accusative, I was meaning only to express my frustration that such men are viewed as legitimate rulers in the news and not given the true position of radical dictators they deserve to be esteemed as. He has executed more than 120,000 of his political opponents, and that says a lot, doesn't it? Perhaps we could equate him to Hitler.. since Hitler was a teetotaler and obstained from many vices as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does, too. No matter his outward form of godliness, his actions deny the power and compassion of it by the deaths and disqualifications under his iron-fisted Islamic rule.

Sara.

-- March 18, 2008 4:06 PM


Sara wrote:

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:

62% of Iraqis now say they want the US troops to STAY in their country..
and a full 55% say their lives are going well.

===

ABC Finds Optimistic Iraqis and Kids Playing Safely on the Street
By Brent Baker
March 18, 2008

Marking the fifth anniversary of the war in Iraq, ABC's Wold News on Monday provided a status check on how Iraqis view their lives and, consistent with how the newscast has been the most willing of the broadcast network evening shows to acknowledge positive developments, anchor Charles Gibson explained “we have polled inside Iraq and there is some good news.” Specifically, “today, 55 percent of Iraqi say their lives are going well. Last summer that number was 39 percent.”

From Iraq, Terry McCarthy reported “you cannot say that life is good in Iraq today. Not yet. Only that life is less bad.” However, McCarthy outlined:

As our poll takers spread across the country they found that for the first time in three years, people were more worried about economic and social problems than violence. And almost half think their country will be better off in a year -- double the number six months ago. In Dora, in southern Baghdad, we found these kids playing on the street. A year ago, they would haven't dared to come outside....

McCarthy noted how “73 percent still oppose the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq,” but he observed, “in a telling reality check, only 38 percent want U.S. troops to leave now, afraid that the gains in security might be reversed.” (Note that this means 62 percent of Iraqis polled want US troops to STAY. - Sara)

“Even Fallujah has turned around,” McCarthy learned, “as the local population has largely abandoned the insurgency and now they're focusing on rebuilding the city from the ruins of war,” though tough tasks remain with most complaining about electrical shortages and poor health care services.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center

Comments

1) Charles Gibson explained by USA4freedom

Charles Gibson explained “we have polled inside Iraq and there is some good news.

And.......that is why we are not telling you, now a report on our crashing economy..

2) The Economy THRIVES by thoridfly

The coverage of the U.S. economy is just like the coverage of the Iraq War ... the MSM is reporting from a defeatist point of view so they can bring in their DEMOCRAT, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST "solutions" to the vast "problem" of "the economy".

3) We BUILD on the Sacrifices Made in Iraq by thoridfly

We can't crap all over them and blow them to the wind ... the way DEMOCRATS have been treating our efforts in Iraq FROM DAY ONE.

If we had gone THEIR course Saddam would still be in power, he would still be a world menace and regional threat, and the Iraqi people would still be under A DICTATORHIP instead of having a functioning democracy.

We didn't cut and run in Europe, we didn't cut and run in Japan, and we didn't cut and run in Korea ... WE STUCK IT OUT ... and now all the nations we fought for are thriving democracies.

4) The great MSM disconnect by pocomoco

“As our poll takers spread across the country they found that for the first time in three years, people were more worried about economic and social problems than violence…”

Isn’t it strange how the polls always seem to reflect the agenda-driven propaganda the MSM are foisting on the public at the time.

Up until recently it’s been the war. Now that a light can be seen at the end of the Iraq tunnel, a wondrous silence has come over the MSM regarding the war.

But, not to worry, because the MSM have now taken the economy off their back burners and are giving it a full frontal attack predicting another 1929.

What, then, is a gullible public who still get their news from the MSM to think and, when asked, just parrot the propaganda back to the pollster.

But, if the pollster were to ask someone how they are personally doing they, in most cases, say they are doing well.

This, obviously, shows a great disconnect between the MSM's daily bad news propaganda and the reality of what is actually happening on the ‘fruited plain’.

5) The Petraeus influence - - The alphabets can't be scouped by JayTee

Petraeus is coming to Town, and the MSM can't have a dumb General out report them, and bring Fantastic news from Iraq that has NOT been "Journalized".

The MSM has put it off as long as they can . . . but Petraeus is gonna blow the whistle on them when he comes back in April . . chop chop MSM, catch up on Iraq quickly, or America is going to learn that the MSM has been Hiding the News from Iraq that does not fit their Agenda.

Obama and Hillary, HOLD on, IT's COMING ! ! ! Victory and not Defeat !!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/03/18/abc-finds-optimistic-iraqis-kids-playing-safely-street

-- March 18, 2008 5:16 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

None taken, I appreciate your comments.

All:

Today, we learned the TSAs with the oil majors will not be done until the summer. While discouraging, I still believe I am in the right investment.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 5:33 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

One other question, where is Carole? Have not seen her post in a while. Maybe she is on lurking mode.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 18, 2008 5:35 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - I am glad you took no offense. :)
Carole has written me a couple of times so she is around.. likely just busy. :)

I found much to digest in the article below.
Is there a double standard?
Let's just imagine if the shoe were on the other foot..

===

The Barack Obama Double Standard
By Doug Patton
MichNews.com
Mar 18, 2008

Imagine...

Imagine in 1999, that a videotape had come to light showing the pastor of Texas Gov. George W. Bush’s church making vicious, hateful comments about America and cruel, racist statements about Americans of color.

Suppose this preacher had given a lifetime achievement award to former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, and had traveled to Europe with Duke to meet with neo-Nazi terrorists.

Now try to envision that the candidate’s family had attended this church for more than twenty years, that George and Laura Bush had been married there, by this pastor, and that the Bush daughters had been baptized by him.

Picture George Bush titling his autobiography after a phrase in one of this minister’s sermons, writing that the man was his mentor, and then putting him on the presidential campaign staff as a trusted advisor and confidant.

Say it came to light that for several years George W. Bush had been friends with Eric Rudolph, the notorious Olympic Park bomber and anti-abortion terrorist. Furthermore, let’s suppose that Bush had remained friends with Rudolph over the years and still considered him a colleague today.

Now imagine Laura Bush, on the campaign trail for her husband, telling supporters and the national media that America is “mean” and that for the first time in her adult life she was proud of her country.

Is there a doubt that Republican officeholders would have run from the Bush campaign like rats from a burning barn, that he would have become the political leper of the 2000 campaign? And what about the media? They virtually crucified candidate Bush that year for daring to give a speech at Bob Jones University, which had once banned interracial dating. I cannot imagine the field day they would have had with something like this.

And yet excuses are made for Barack Obama, who now finds himself in exactly this situation. Obama’s pastor of more than two decades — the man who married Barack and Michelle Obama, who christened their daughters, who inspired the title of the candidate’s book, “The Audacity of Hope,” — is now at the center of a storm that would have destroyed the candidacy of any Republican the day the story broke.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for the last 36 years, has been caught on tape denouncing the United States and the white race in terms that should shock and disgust every thinking American. Wright and the church swear allegiance to the “mother country” — Africa. (Presumably this includes the Obama family.)

Rather than trying to infuse his congregation with hope and encouragement, Wright poisons them with vitriol about how the U.S. government has tried to commit genocide against the black community using drugs and the AIDS virus as weapons of choice.

“Don’t say God bless America,” Wright screams in one sermon. “God damn America!”

Wright, representing the church, bestowed a lifetime achievement award on Louis Farrakhan, the racist leader of the Nation of Islam. In the 1980s, Wright traveled to Libya with Farrakhan to meet with Muammar Gaddafi.

If Barack Obama has not been paying attention in church, it is apparent that his wife, Michelle, has. Campaigning for her husband recently, she said that for the first time in her adult life, she is finally proud of her country. In a separate speech, she said America is “a mean country.”

Obama is friends with William Ayers, an admitted domestic terrorist with the Weather Underground, which declared war on the United States and claimed responsibility for bombing several government buildings, including the Pentagon and the State Department building, in the 1970s. In an interview with The New York Times, ironically published on the morning of September 11, 2001, Ayers was quoted as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

Now a tenured professor at the University of Chicago (only in America!), Ayers met Barack Obama in the 1990s. They have remained friends ever since.

We are judged not just by our words, but by the company we keep. The litmus test should not be whether or not everyone a candidate knows is ideal. That is an impossible standard. The true measure of a man is in his ability to choose friends with which he can be proud to stand shoulder to shoulder, not those about whom he must equivocate and for whom he must apologize.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19728.shtml

-- March 18, 2008 10:25 PM


Sara wrote:

While I was ready to say that I know Obama does not follow the same Jesus I do.. I was unwilling to say unequivocally that he is a Muslim (particularly when he has denied he is one). I did allow it appeared a logical possibility and noted the agenda fit with how he spoke, so I could not discount it at the time. However, I now feel this is the wiser explanation of his "theological" position concerning religion - a belief in Black Liberation Theology. When Fox News interviewed Obama’s pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, he asserted the authority of the “black liberation” theologians James Cone and Dwight Hopkins.. and their quoted views explain perfectly Obama's spoken words about theology and how he speaks about his Jesus when they say:

Christ is black...

AND:

Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

==end quotes==

Quite obviously the Biblical Jesus Christ is not in view in this theological position, as the historic Jesus Christ was not a black man. Also, a God who is ordered around (God must do what we want him to do or we must reject him) is hardly Deity of any kind. God dictates to man and has the final say on matters, not the other way around (note their words concerning God - "Black theology will accept only"... "unless God.. we must reject").
Additionally, the Bible says:

Gal 3:26 For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Such distinctions as being Jew or Greek, male or female, slave or free... or black or white.. are removed, and all are ONE in Christ Jesus who are the children of God, according to the Holy Scriptures. Only in American Christianity is this melting pot mentality retained to the benefit and cohesion of the country, quote: America remains the only really Christian country in the industrial world, precisely because it transcends ethnicity.

May God grant that America be pleased to retain this advancement of transcending ethnicity and not entrench racial politics into the political sphere by whom she elects President.

Sara.

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White Hatred In Black Liberation Theology
From the Asia Times: The peculiar theology of black liberation
By Spengler
Mar 18, 2008

Senator Barack Obama is not a Muslim, contrary to invidious rumors. But he belongs to a Christian church whose doctrine casts Jesus Christ as a “black messiah” and blacks as “the chosen people”. At best, this is a radically different kind of Christianity than most Americans acknowledge; at worst it is an ethnocentric heresy.

What played out last week on America’s television screens was a clash of two irreconcilable cultures, the posture of “black liberation theology” and the mainstream American understanding of Christianity. Obama, who presented himself as a unifying figure, now seems rather the living embodiment of the clash.

One of the strangest dialogues in American political history ensued on March 15 when Fox News interviewed Obama’s pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, of Chicago’s Trinity Church. Wright asserted the authority of the “black liberation” theologians James Cone and Dwight Hopkins:

Wright: How many of Cone’s books have you read? How many of Cone’s book have you read?

Sean Hannity: Reverend, Reverend?

(crosstalk)

Wright: How many books of Cone’s have you head?

Hannity: I’m going to ask you this question …

Wright: How many books of Dwight Hopkins have you read?

Hannity: You’re very angry and defensive. I’m just trying to ask a question here.

Wright: You haven’t answered - you haven’t answered my question.

==end quote==

Hopkins is a full professor at the University of Chicago’s Divinity School; Cone is now distinguished professor at New York’s Union Theological Seminary. They promote a “black power” reading of Christianity, to which liberal academic establishment condescends.

Obama referred to this when he asserted in a March 14 statement, “I knew Reverend Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago.” But the fact the liberal academy condescends to sponsor black liberation theology does not make it less peculiar to mainstream American Christians. Obama wants to talk about what Wright is, rather than what he says. But that way lies apolitical quicksand.

Since Christianity taught the concept of divine election to the Gentiles, every recalcitrant tribe in Christendom has rebelled against Christian universalism, insisting that it is the “Chosen People” of God - French, English, Russian, Germans and even (through the peculiar doctrine of Mormonism) certain Americans. America remains the only really Christian country in the industrial world, precisely because it transcends ethnicity. One finds ethnocentricity only in odd corners of its religious life; one of these is African-American.

During the black-power heyday of the late 1960s, after the murder of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr, the mentors of Wright decided that blacks were the Chosen People. James Cone, the most prominent theologian in the “black liberation” school, teaches that Jesus Christ himself is black. As he explains:

Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.

Theologically, Cone’s argument is as silly as the “Aryan Christianity” popular in Nazi Germany, which claimed that Jesus was not a Jew at all but an Aryan Galilean, and that the Aryan race was the “chosen people”. Cone, Hopkins and Wright do not propose, of course, to put non-blacks in concentration camps or to conquer the world, but racially-based theology nonetheless is a greased chute to the nether regions.

Biblical theology teaches that even the most terrible events to befall Israel, such as the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BCE, embody the workings of divine justice, even if humankind cannot see God’s purpose. James Cone sees the matter very differently. Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him, Cone maintains:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love. [1]

In the black liberation theology taught by Wright, Cone and Hopkins, Jesus Christ is not for all men, but only for the oppressed:

In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors … Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not [Cone]…

That is the “biblical scholarship” to which Obama referred in his March 14 defense of Wright and his academic prominence. In his response to Hannity, Wright genuinely seemed to believe that the authority of Cone and Hopkins, who now hold important posts at liberal theological seminaries, was sufficient to make the issue go away. His faith in the white establishment is touching; he honestly cannot understand why the white reporters at Fox News are bothering him when the University of Chicago and the Union Theological Seminary have put their stamp of approval on black liberation theology…

Note

1. See William R Jones, “Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology”, in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).

Comments:

1) Sharps Rifle

If you can get past the libspin in the article, you’d be surprised at the similarities between Cone’s ravings and those of white separatist theology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

Cone and Wright need to either shave their heads or put on sheets.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-white-hatred-in-black-liberation-theology

-- March 19, 2008 1:27 AM


I wrote:

If John Macain's pastor for the last 20 years had said the things Obama's pastor said, he would be asked to resign from running for President, by every liberal in America. Everyone knows this. Liberals preach equality. Equality is supposed to mean treating everyone equal and holding them to the same standard. So why isn't anyone asking for Obama to step down?

-- March 19, 2008 1:37 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The fall out from Hussein Obama's association with Jerimiah Wright is just beginning. It is to early in the game for anyone to call for Obama to step down. I must admit, I take pleasure in watching the junior Senator from Illinois squirm a little. I especially, enjoy wondering what is going through Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy's mind as he watches this debacle unfold before him.

If this controversy continues any length of time, we may see the super delegates switch positions and support Hilary Clinton for the nomination; requiring the Democratic Elite quitely request Obama step aside.

Politically, I think this is going to be an interesting summer. I will gain a sense of satisfaction if Hussein Obama can weather this storm and meet Mrs. Clinton at a brokered Democratic convention. It may turn out to be a repeat of 1968 all over again.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 9:52 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Korean Firms To Build Infrastructure in Iraq

South Korean builder SSangyong Engineering & Construction Co. said Tuesday that a consortium led by the builder plans to submit its proposals to build infrastructure to the Kurdistan Regional Government early next month.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Reconciliation conference not addressing real political situation, says MP 19/03/2008 14:16:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The Iraqi National Slate's MP Usama al-Nijeifi has considered the government's intention behind holding the reconciliation conference as "attaining political and propaganda achievements."
(www.ninanews.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 9:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi ministers' performance questioned
Baghdad claims improvements; the GAO claims otherwise.

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Erbil, 19 March 2008 (Kurdish Globe)
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Two relevant reports show different information on the Iraqi government's expenditure of its money.

The Iraqi government spent a humble sum not exceeding 7% of its $10.1 billion 2007 budget allocated for capital projects and reconstruction till November 2007, according to a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), presented to U.S. Congress on March 11.

The report, presented by the U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker, also contended that "despite the United States' investment of about $6 billion to rebuild Iraq's oil and electricity sectors, production in both sectors has consistently fallen below U.S. program goals of 3 million barrels per day and 6,000 megawatts of electrical peak generation capacity."

The U.S. auditors are eyeing the Iraqi government's expenditure rate of its own oil revenues, which soared this year and brought the country a budget surplus. In addition, this comes as the U.S. continues to invest billions of dollars in rebuilding Iraq and internally faces a financial squeeze because of oil prices.

Research on the weak performance of the Iraqi government in 2007 is not only being rejected in Baghdad, but they are also assuring that there have been improvements in projects compared to the previous few years.

Two of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki's advisors for economic affairs published a report showing improvement in the rate of the executed investment project at the Iraqi ministries.

Al-Maliki's advisors, Kamal Al-Basri and Faruq Abdul-Qader, say in their report published early this month that "the rate of executing investment projects at the Iraqi ministries including Kurdistan Region have reached 68%, while the rate of the executed investment projects at the Iraqi governorates reached 74%," depending on figures by the Iraqi Finance Ministry.

The Kurdistan Regional Government's ministries were able to carry out 100% of their allocated budget for reconstruction, according to information announced by the Iraqi Finance Ministry; the budget for Kurdistan Region makes 17% of the country's general budget, and it come from Baghdad as well.

Meanwhile, the ministries operated by Kurds in Baghdad, such as Industry, Municipality, and Water Resources, were able to use 93-100% of their reconstruction allocation.

Fazil Nabi, Deputy Minister of Iraqi Finance, said that 40% of the $50 billion of oil income within the budget 2008 would be allocated for reconstruction projects. Kurdistan Region gains 17% of this sum. The Iraqi official also said that the unspent reconstruction budgets in 2007 would be allowed to the requiring ministries in this year.

Back to the GAO report, it-like previous reports made by U.S. officials-lacks proper views on Kurdistan Region in particular.

In a statement to Radio Sawa on Friday, al-Basri replied about the contradictions between his report and the GAO report, saying that the Iraqi government "easily can defend its figures."

Despite the contradictions in the statistics, both reports noticed weak points of government performance.

The GAO report counts several challenges facing the Iraqi ministries that pose a risk to their success and long-term sustainability. First, the Iraqi ministries lack personnel with key skills, such as budgeting and procurement. Second, sectarian influence over ministry leadership and staff complicated efforts to build a professional and nonaligned civil service. Third, pervasive corruption in the Iraqi ministries impeded effectiveness of U.S. efforts. Fourth, security conditions exist that limit U.S. advisors' access to their Iraqi counterparts.

As for the Iraqi government report, it counts factors that negatively influenced the percentage rate of the executing of projects. The factors include absence of security and law sovereignty; absence of a positive investment condition that hinders transporting; work requirements; and contracting with contractors of high quality. The report also pointed to the absence of complete inspection and supervision on projects.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 10:02 AM


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Cheney brings regional tour to Oman after pledges from politicians in Iraq

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Muscat, 19 March 2008 (AFP)
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Fresh from a two-day surprise visit to Iraq, US Vice President Dick Cheney arrived in Oman late Tuesday for talks set to focus on containing Iran's influence and curbing its suspect nuclear program. Cheney was to hold talks with Sultan Qaboos after working to rally top Iraqi political leaders behind plans for a US-Iraq long-term security pact and push them on legislation seen as key to quelling sectarian strife.

In the city of Irbil on the eve of the US invasion of Iraq's fifth anniversary, Cheney pushed a key Iraqi Kurdish leader to back the long-range strategic partnership and work to pass laws to govern oil revenue sharing and upcoming elections.

His host, Kurdistan Regional President Massoud Barzani, pledged that Kurds would be part of the "solution, not the problem" both in Iraqi politics and in the nation's relations with its neighbors. That appeared to be a reference to Turkey, which has angered many Kurds by striking at northern Iraq-based Kurdish separatist fighters of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) with US support.

"We are certainly counting on President Barzani's leadership to help us conclude a new strategic relationship between the United States and Iraq as well as advance crucial peaces of national legislation in the months ahead," said Cheney.

"We will continue to play our positive role, to be part of the solution, and not part of the problem," Barzani said. "We will be part of the solution for all the efforts inside of Iraq and out for the neighboring countries."

A senior US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Cheney had heard expressions of support for the US-Iraq strategic pact as well as national reconciliation laws from every major Iraqi political leader he met.

"I don't want to overstate it. The devil is in the details," the official said, but "there is a sense of urgency" among rival Shiite and Sunni leaders as well as Kurds over that agenda.

With just 10 months before the White House changes hands, the vice president was on a nine-day trip to the Middle East to seek progress on the battered peace process and win support on Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Asked about Cheney's agenda in Oman, a senior aide had said on Friday that "Iran has got to be very high on that list," noting that the two countries are co-guardians of the strategic Strait of Hormuz entrance to the oil-rich Gulf.

"The Omanis, like a lot of other people, are concerned by the escalating tensions between the rest of the world community and Iran, by some of Iran's activities, particularly in the nuclear field, but outside its borders as well," the official said.

Cheney's other scheduled stops were Saudi Arabia, which he urged Monday to send an ambassador to Baghdad to undercut Iranian influence there; Israel and the Occupied West Bank; and Turkey.

In Iraq, the vice president repeatedly promised Washington's "unwavering" support for advancing democracy there and repeatedly denounced calls from the White House's Democratic critics to pledge to draw down US forces if they carry the November US elections.

He spent the night at Balad Air Base north of Baghdad and told thousands of troops that Iraqis could trust the United States as "a nation that accepts a hard job and keeps at it even if others may tire of the effort."

"We have no intention of abandoning our friends, or al-lowing this country ... to become a staging area for further attacks against Americans," said Cheney.

In Irbil, he said the US and Iraq's Kurds had built up a "special friendship" during an operation that created no-fly zones over Kurdish areas after the 1991 Gulf War to protect them from ousted President Saddam Hussein's campaigns of repression.

He said nothing about US support for Turkey's major air and ground campaign last month on the PKK, an operation branded by Iraqi Kurds and the Baghdad government as an attack on the nation's sovereignty.

A series of bloody attacks marked Cheney's visit to Iraq, including a bombing near a Shiite shrine in Karbala on Monday that killed 52 people.

On Tuesday, insurgents killed at least seven people in attacks across the country, security officials said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 10:04 AM


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Bush speech to mark 5 years of Iraq war
By JENNIFER LOVEN
Associated Press Writer

Haraz N. Ghanbari/AP Photo
President Bush walks across the South Lawn, Tuesday, March 18, 2008, after arriving at the White House in Washington.
AP White House correspondent Mark Smith reports the president's using a speech tomorrow to insist Iraq is a fight America can and must win. Bush says Iraq war was worth it
WASHINGTON --Five years after launching the U.S. invasion of Iraq, President Bush is making some of his most expansive claims of success in the fighting there. Bush said last year's troop buildup has turned Iraq around and produced "the first large-scale Arab uprising against Osama bin Laden."

As anti-war demonstrations were planned in downtown Washington to mark Wednesday's war anniversary, across the river at the Pentagon Bush was to give a 25-minute speech, warning against backsliding from the recent progress fueled by the increase of 30,000 troops ordered more than a year ago.

"The challenge in the period ahead is to consolidate the gains we have made and seal the extremists' defeat," he said in excerpts the White House released Tuesday night. "We have learned through hard experience what happens when we pull our forces back too fast - the terrorists and extremists step in, fill the vacuum, establish safe havens and use them to spread chaos and carnage."

Bush criticized those who "still call for retreat" in the face of what he called undeniable successes.

Democrats took a different view.

"On this grim milestone, it is worth remembering how we got into this situation, and thinking about how best we can get out," said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich. "The tasks that remain in Iraq - to bring an end to sectarian conflict, to devise a way to share political power and to create a functioning government that is capable of providing for the needs of the Iraqi people - are tasks that only the Iraqis can complete."

Before top Pentagon officials and hundreds of others, Bush planned to trace the war's "high cost in lives and treasure." He defended the war as necessary at first, now, and for an undefined future until Iraq is stable enough to stand on its own.

"The surge has done more than turn the situation in Iraq around - it has opened the door to a major strategic victory in the broader war on terror," the president said. "In Iraq, we are witnessing the first large-scale Arab uprising against Osama bin Laden, his grim ideology, and his terror network. And the significance of this development cannot be overstated."

The president's address sought to shift the nation's focus from economic ills and put Iraq back on the front burner, part of a series of events the White House planned around the anniversary and next month's report from the top U.S. figures in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker.

Vice President Dick Cheney, who just completed a two-day visit to Iraq, said the administration won't "be blown off course" by continued strong opposition to the war in the United States.

Cheney compared the administration's task now to Abraham Lincoln's during the Civil War. "He never would have succeeded if he hadn't had a clear objective, a vision for where he wanted to go, and he was willing to withstand the slings and arrows of the political wars in order to get there," Cheney said of Lincoln in an interview broadcast Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

The U.S. has about 158,000 troops in Iraq. That number is expected to drop to 140,000 by summer in drawdowns meant to erase all but about 8,000 troops from last year's increase.

Bush has successfully defied efforts by the Democratic-led Congress to force larger troop withdrawals. Still, with just 10 months before he hands off the war to a new president, Bush is concerned about his legacy on Iraq.

Both Democratic candidates have said they would begin withdrawing forces quickly if elected. Only expected GOP nominee John McCain has indicated he planned to continue Bush's strategy of bringing troops home only as conditions warrant.

It is widely believed that the president will endorse a recommendation from Petraeus for no additional troop reductions, beyond those already scheduled, until at least September. This pause in drawdowns would be designed to assess the impact of this round before allowing more.

The surge was meant to tamp down sectarian violence in Iraq so that the country's leaders would have time to advance legislation considered key to reconciliation between rival Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish communities. But the gains on the battlefield have not been matched by dramatic political progress, and violence again may be increasing.

Bush appeared to be referring to recent cooperation by local Iraqis with the U.S. military against the group known as al-Qaida in Iraq, a mostly homegrown, Sunni-based insurgency. Experts question how closely - or even whether - the group is connected to the international al-Qaida network. As for bin Laden, he is rarely heard from and is believed to be hiding in Pakistan.

As of Tuesday, at least 3,990 members of the U.S. military have died in the war, which has cost the U.S. roughly $500 billion. Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglizt and Harvard University public finance expert Linda Bilmes have estimated the eventual cost at $3 trillion when all the expenses, including long-term care for veterans, are calculated.

Without specifics, Bush decried those who have "exaggerated estimates of the costs of this war."

"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much," he said.
(http://www.kentucky.com/513/story/350692.html)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 10:10 AM


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Fischer: We will not intervene in dollar trading again without announcing it first

By TheMarker Staff

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Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer told Bloomberg yesterday that the central bank would not intervene in the future in foreign currency markets without announcing it first.

In a television interview from his Jerusalem office with the business news agency, Fischer defended the intervention, saying that he was pleased with the results as of now.

Turning to the crisis in the U.S., Fischer said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has the skills to guide the U.S. economy through a credit squeeze, now in its eighth month.
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"You can inject liquidity in the economy and it happens that Ben Bernanke is an expert on this issue," said Fischer, who advised the Fed chief on his doctoral thesis at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the 1970s.

"The Fed will get on top of this, I don't doubt."

As to the Israeli economy, Fischer said it would slow down to a growth rate of only 3.5-3.6% percent in 2008, the bottom end of the central bank's forecasts - and the lowest growth rate since 2003.

Fischer said that the Bank of Israel intervened in the foreign currency markets because the market was acting inefficiently in a technical way, according to a number of the central bank's criteria. Asked whether he would have still intervened if the shekel had been trading in the middle of the range that people thought was good for the Israeli economy, Fischer said he did not know.

As to inflation, Fischer said that it is under control. As long as the central bank feels that the inflation problem is under control and within the target range, it can take steps to support growth, he said.

Fischer gained insight into rescuing economies as the International Monetary Fund's number two official during the Asian financial crisis and Russian debt default of the 1990s. In that period, the IMF made a quarter of a trillion dollars in emergency loans to countries including Argentina and Korea.

Still, the implication of the U.S. slump "for the global economy far exceeds the things I've seen previously," he said. "I haven't seen anything on this scale for the global economy at least since I've been active."

Fischer is rare among the current crop of central bankers in that he has experience of academia, policy making and banking.

As well as working at the IMF and teaching at MIT, he served as chief economist at the World Bank and, prior to moving to Israel in 2005, was employed by Citigroup Inc. as a vice chairman.

He declined to forecast when the credit squeeze will pass, only that it would. "I've lived through crises, they have a rhythm,'' he said. The U.S. economy is "not going to collapse, it will come back."
(http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/965798.html)

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Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 10:18 AM


Sara wrote:

This man has a point.. a suspicion concerning Obaman's political agenda I feel must be brought up and understood..
Namely, is there an economic component to the policies of Barak Obama which redistributes wealth from whites to blacks?

It speaks of "Obama’s plan to redistribute $845 billion of America’s wealth to Africa through the U.N. with his Global Poverty Act."

That is more than the entire Iraqi War has cost the US so far.. which is 500 billion at last count, see yesterday's news article - "Iraq invasion was "successful endeavour": Cheney where it says, quote "The Iraq war is a major issue in the U.S. presidential campaign. Entering its sixth year this week, it has cost the United States $500 billion. http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=40731

What do you think, board? Can America afford this degree of redistribution of wealth to a poor nation?

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Obama's Cat Is Out Of The Bag And It Can't Be Put Back In
By JR Dieckmann
MichNews.com
Mar 17, 2008

By now, I’m sure you are familiar with the controversy over statements made by Barack Obama’s pastor at the Trinity United Church of Christ, so I’m not going to review it all here. In response to criticisms of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s racist and anti-American views, Barack Obama has made the following statements:

"I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue."

"I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."

==end quote==

Obama claims that this is all news to him and that he never heard any inflammatory statements from Wright in his 20 year association with the church and his 17 years as an attending member of the church. Quote:

"While Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States." (end quote)

Bull....! How can Obama deny that he was oblivious to the views and beliefs of his own declared “spiritual advisor,” pastor, family friend, and campaign advisor? These are also the same views shared by his own wife, Michelle, as exposed by her recent statement “For the first time in my life, I am really proud of my country,” and her recent statement that “Americans are mean people.” Obama spent the 2007 Christmas holidays at home in Chicago. Didn’t the Obamas attend Christmas services when Wright delivered one of his most controversial sermons? Any contention by Obama that he did not know about, and does not share the views of this man are simply not credible.

The cat is out of the bag, Barack, and we are now seeing the real soul of Obama being revealed by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright who, by the way, would have likely ended up in the Obama cabinet at the White House were Obama to be elected.

If people were to look deeper at the flamboyant and charismatic speeches given by Obama, and think about what he has actually been saying, it is clear that his views are almost exactly the same as Wright’s. Obama merely expresses them in a more diplomatic and politically correct way. Just listen to most any of his speeches. He’s not talking about the American people as a whole, he talking about poor black people without actually saying it.

His campaign is not about “hope” for the American people, it’s about “hope” for black people who have been convinced by people like Jessie Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama, the Clintons, and the entire Democrat Party that they are being oppressed and don’t have the same rights to the American dream as white people, and that they need “special rights” that are not afforded to whites, like Affirmative Action.

Obama’s slogan of “change” is not simply a call for a change in the White House, but for government mandated “change” from earned prosperity for those who work hard for it, to sharing and redistributing of the wealth to those who don’t.

Obama is always talking about the “poor and oppressed Americans,” how bad the country is, the evil rich people who run the country, and those evil lobbyists who represent special interest groups. He sees the country from an oppressed black perspective and too many whites fail to realize that what he is talking about is “change” for the poor black people, not all Americans. He is an advocate for “black power” in America at the expense of the white man.

Obama, and his pastor, still see the country as it was prior to the Civil Rights Act and because of blacks’ own failings to advance themselves and take advantage of the opportunities offered to them, they blame all their problems on the white man. It’s the white man’s fault that blacks are responsible for the majority of violent crime and the majority of the prison population. Whites should share their income with blacks so that they don’t have to commit crimes to survive. That’s their view, and it’s Obama’s view as well. Instead of holding himself out as an example of how a black man can succeed in America, he advocates for those who choose not to put forth the effort to succeed.

If Obama were a Republican, he would be called “Uncle Tom, Oreo cookie, not black enough,” or “house slave” (as Harry Belafonte did) by the black Democrats, just as they do with Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, and other successful blacks, because of his career success and his personal wealth. But because he is a Democrat, his wealth is overlooked, and his followers see him as their savior, instead of their enemy. Because he is a socialist/Marxist, they see him as their “sugar daddy” who will provide for them without them really having to work for it.

Prominently displayed on the Trinity United Church Website is the follow statement:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community."

This is what Barack Obama is all about and always has been. It’s easy to see just by listening to him speak. When he advocates for the American people, he always leaves out one critical word - “Black.” Many of his meaningless statements about our country seem to make sense if you think black. Can anyone really believe that Obama doesn’t know what his church is all about and thinks it’s only about the worship of Christ, as he claims?

The website goes on to say:

"The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY."

You have probably, by now, seen the videos of the racist and anti-American preaching of Rev. Wright. If not, you can find them here on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ38N8OUg3Q (2 minutes long, newsclips) The thing to take note of beyond the rantings of Rev. Wright, is the reaction to him by the congregation who are all on their feet cheering and praising him for his hate speeches. Wright is not stepping over the line in the eyes of his congregation. They love it, as he is speaking what they feel. These are Obama’s people and he is one of them who worships Rev. Wright, or did until this became public.

Obama says he didn’t know anything about this. Or to put it another way, he claims he didn’t attend the church on the days that these speeches were made. And if he had, he would have objected to the racist and anti-American rhetoric. If this sort of thing had happened on only a few isolated instances when Barack missed going to church, it would have been the talk of the congregation for weeks if not months and Obama certainly would have heard about it.

To pretend that he knew nothing about what has been going on in a church that he has been attending for the past 17 years is ludicrous. Especially when you consider his close relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. No, Obama knew very well what his pastor’s beliefs and views were, and he never voiced a single objection until it was exposed. Now he’s trying to save his campaign by distancing himself from Rev. Wright and by pretending that this all went on behind his back.

How can Obama redeem his false facade and salvage his campaign from this scandal? Quite simply, he can’t. The real soul of Obama is being revealed, and there is no way he can put it back in the bottle. The release of these videos has revealed the true beliefs of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and in doing so, have revealed the true beliefs of Barack Obama.

This is why his campaign has been nothing but empty platitudes and generalities with empty promises of “hope” and “change” without real substance. If the German people had known what Hitler was really planning, would they have voted for him? History does repeat itself, and once again, we are seeing a population fooled by a charlatan with great speaking skills.

As a result of the release of these videos, Obama’s unfavorable ratings have suddenly risen to 49% in one day. It appears that some of his Democrat supporters are beginning to wise up and catch on. You know that the Clintons have to be celebrating. We also must wonder how big a role they played in getting this story, and the videos, out to the public with the help of ABC’s Brian Ross.

There are many in the black community who believe as Wright and Obama do, and they will continue to support the candidate and want all the “free stuff” Obama is promising to deliver to them. They also support Obama’s plan to redistribute $845 billion of America’s wealth to Africa through the U.N. with his Global Poverty Act. But mostly, they believe that it is the evil white man who has kept them in poverty, and now Obama is somehow going to make them all rich on the White’s dime.

No Barack, the jig is up, and you are not going to be elected to the presidency of the United States of America. But let’s all hope that the American people will learn a lesson from your candidacy and become the wiser for it.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19725.shtml

-- March 19, 2008 12:44 PM


Kevin Kristopher Klassen wrote:

Yeh, sure I wuz a member of the Ku Klux Klan, or KKK, for 20 years, attending their meetings regularly. Some of my best friends and heroes were in the Klan. Then, after 20 years, someone finally told me they were against black people...... That really surprised me. I had no idea!!!!! Guess my eduation at Harvard Law School didn't prepare me to pick up on that kind of thing. And, I guess I wasn't around, when they said that sorta thing. How wuz I supposed to know? Anyway, I'll keep my friends in the Klan, but I'm still running for mayor. You gotta problem with dat?

-- March 19, 2008 2:41 PM


OJ wrote:

If my preacher's is having a racist fit,
You must o-quit.

-- March 19, 2008 2:44 PM


Sara wrote:

IF Obama or Hillary were to win the election, I think we all understand that the loss to the Iraqi people would be immeasurably more than the loss of Dinar currency potential which concerns those of us on this board - due to the fact either of these Democrats would leave the Iraqi people at the mercy of their enemies before stability and security had been achieved... However, since we Dinar investors would lose a lot concerning our investment in the Dinar if either Dem were to win the election, it is of interest to this Dinar board how the race is going, so I thought you may find this of interest. :)

===

Bottom drops out! Obama now trails Hillary, McCain
Gallup reveals statistically significant Democrat deficit
Posted: March 19, 2008

The bottom has dropped out for Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama with a new Gallup daily tracking poll showing him trailing both Hillary Clinton and GOP hopeful John McCain one day after the Illinois senator's refusal to condemn his longtime pastor who suggested the U.S. launched AIDS to decimate blacks.

The new results from Gallup show Clinton with a 49 percent to 42 percent lead over Obama in a national Democratic voters' presidential nomination preference tally.

"This is the first time Clinton has held a statistically significant lead in over a month," the Gallup report said.

The report said McCain leads Obama 47 percent to 43 percent in registered voters' preferences for the general presidential election.

"This is the first time any of the candidates has held a statistically significant lead since Gallup Poll Daily tracking began reporting on the general election race last week," the report said.

"McCain's 48 percent to 45 percent advantage over Clinton is not statistically significant, but it is the first time he has had an edge over her in Gallup Poll Daily tracking," the report said.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59364

-- March 19, 2008 8:23 PM


Carole wrote:

Hi

Quite a coincidence that I checked in today. Sara is right, I am in busy crazy mode! Every couple of weeks I "lurk" in and am very impressed with the tenacity and continued rigor that is presented consistently regarding our dinar investment and all of the appendage subjects tied into it.

Have almost lost mother 3 times in the last 6 months with many hopsitalizations..etc
But now have finally resigned myself to no more hospitalizations... no matter what. Just loving her and keeping her as comfortable as possible.

Don't know if I shared my car accident in Oct. Have been left with a completely numb left hand and severe shoulder pain...will eventually need surgery. So typing just exacerbates everything.

Very cocerned about the Realestate slump.....hoping to be able to ride the rip tide for me and my family.....but it sure is alarming.

Right now the only bright spot in my financial portfolio are the precious metals.

HOWEVER, I am daily increasingly convinced that the devalue of the dollar and the soaring of the precious metal products has a Mastermind behind it.

Yesterday, I had a thought to sell some gold ( sell high, buy low strategy ). Very interesting discovery......

I considered selling for Euros instead of dollars. WEEEELLLLLL! The Euro trades higher when you are trading dollars for Euros.....BUT if you take Euros and trade them for gold it pays exactly the same as if you were trading dollars for gold! Hmmmmm pretty fishy!

I figure the dollar has to stay low to keep the oil prices going up, up, up......

So, the next obvious question is.......for whose gain????

Concerning the Dinar..... I have never been more convinced that we are in the right investment than now! I never thought the Vietnamese Dong would ever see acceptance on the WTM....so our ship is soon to come in too! From what I have picked up from my very "unreliable" sources :)......$.43 by year end! Quien Sabe?

A few comments on Mr. Barrak Hussein Obama......

His followers are BRAIN DEAD! Do they need a brick to fall on their heads! This guy has left a trail of quandry and suspicion for many years! ( By the way....what the hell is a community organizer????? Sounds RED to me!)

He abstained from any congressional voting as senator that would give us a hint about who he realy is........Dah!

I have not even heard talk radio conservatives connect the "dots" concerning his refuals to wear an Americaqn Flag lapel pin, or the ominous indicator presented by his refusal to put is hand over his heart when reciting the Pledge of Alligience.....ditto Dah!

He is a prodigy of his minister.....and you can take that to the bank! I could go on and on.....as you all know but I will leave you with one irritating (to some) enlightenment........


here goes and I'm ducking.......Roger take a tranquilizer.....here goes!


The United Church of Christ is an abberant religion considered by evangelicals ( and the Bible) as cultic theology!

Okay I'm out of here.....dear Sara, take over :)

Love to you all .....

Carole

-- March 19, 2008 8:40 PM


B. Hussein Obama wrote:

I don't believe in the racist views of my spiritual advisor for the last 20 years! Honest I don't! I swear on a stack of Korans!!!

-- March 19, 2008 8:50 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Carole:

You meant the United Church of Christ not the Church of Christ.


Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 19, 2008 11:11 PM


NEIL wrote:

I am extremely impressed with Mr. Obama and really would have liked to see this nation being run by someone with so much carmisma, appeal and eloquence of speech but I am now convinced that this man is not a candidate to preside over the USA but a black man's candidate who will, as stated before, take from the whites and give to the blacks.

I believe that the playing field in this country is pretty much level insofar as the average Joe is concerned but the discrimination against blacks in the heirarchy, the rich and those in prestigeous positions passing on their prestiege and fortune to their children and loved ones. This is where blacks get left out along with the average white American in their quest to secure a portion of the American dream.

I do not like any of the three presidential contenders. Even John McCain has ludicrous ideas such a amnesty for the 12 million illegal immigrants, closing Guantanimo Bay and stopping any form of torture to get information from terrorists.

I am now 72 years old and my voice will soon be replaced with someone more benevolent and kind but I will continue to speak out against anyone whom I think is harmful to this country.

-- March 19, 2008 11:41 PM


NEIL wrote:

I am extremely impressed with Mr. Obama and really would have liked to see this nation being run by someone with so much carmisma, appeal and eloquence of speech but I am now convinced that this man is not a candidate to preside over the USA but a black man's candidate who will, as stated before, take from the whites and give to the blacks.

I believe that the playing field in this country is pretty much level insofar as the average Joe is concerned but the discrimination against blacks in the heirarchy, the rich and those in prestigeous positions passing on their prestiege and fortune to their children and loved ones. This is where blacks get left out along with the average white American in their quest to secure a portion of the American dream.

I do not like any of the three presidential contenders. Even John McCain has ludicrous ideas such a amnesty for the 12 million illegal immigrants, closing Guantanimo Bay and stopping any form of torture to get information from terrorists.

I am now 72 years old and my voice will soon be replaced with someone more benevolent and kind but I will continue to speak out against anyone whom I think is harmful to this country.

-- March 19, 2008 11:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Neil;

I had wondered, too, about this man of such great charisma and oratory, who appeared to be a uniter, and had people swoon at his meetings. As the Lord said to me, though, there is a place in the Bible which speaks to the church and says to her that "of your own selves" will some people arise who will draw many people AFTER THEMSELVES and NOT AFTER CHRIST. Certainly, from what I can see, this man who causes Messianic fever among those who hear him fits this description Paul gave of:

Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departure shall grievous wolves come in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Act 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

That speaks of those who would come from WITHIN the Church itself, those who would "draw away disciples AFTER THEM", instead of after the Lord. I certainly never felt an "Amen, Lord Jesus!" rise up in my soul after anything this man of great oratory spoke. And the hysteria at his meetings and faithful adherence of his followers did not seem to me to center around Jesus Christ and godly Christ-centered Biblical policies. Judge for yourself if the Scripture He gave me (above) fits the occasion and people who have been "drawn after" Obama and not Jesus Christ. Do you see those who follow Obama as dedicated to Jesus, godly, God-fearing and Christian? I'm going to have to say, "No." - at least, not dedicated to the Jesus of Holy Scripture and His Scriptural viewpoints. Obama even dismissed a part of the Bible as less relevant and "obscure" recently.. something Jesus Christ would never do. ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is to be used to instruct, teach, and correct (2 Tim 3:16). I do not see Obama as embodying the viewpoint of the Lord and therefore supported by the people, but as winning the support of the people to himself - even as this Scripture says. Instead of a faithful Christian viewpoint, perhaps he is merely embodying the viewpoint of the people and their agendas - such as redistributing the wealth of whites to blacks.

Carole - Thank YOU for your post! We did miss you! So sorry to hear about your Mum and yet, I am so encouraged to see someone who is godly and pro-life working to make her last stay on earth as comfortable as possible. Such self-sacrifice and service you so willingly give befits a godly, Christ-honoring heart of love and compassion. It is so very true that those of Jesus Christ's do look to their own family's good and make sure they are taken care of when they have such elderly-care needs, as the Bible says:

1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

The compassion and proof of your faith is in your loving actions of self-sacrifice, particularly toward your own "house". I saw this with Terry Schiavo's family's compassion and desire to look after her during her last days (if they had been allowed to). I am sure such sacrifice and endeavors for the good of our loved ones is not overlooked from heaven. I pray God to bless you with good health and healing, and particularly so now, through this time of trial and service for Him - as I said, I am sure that the smallest action of loving self-service and sacrifice which is done in His name has a reward in heaven (Matt 10:42, Col 3:23-24).

Thank you, also, for passing on to us your "unreliable sources" :) viewpoint that the Dinar will RV by the end of the year at about .43 USD. That is encouraging to hear, as some day I expect to see not only "smoke" but "fire". :) I believe it is the Lord's will, and His plan is over all of men's plans. How encouraging, then, to hear rumor of men's planning to do so - as I believe they will one day be used of Him and finally line up with the Divine Will.. and then God will be able to give the RV or upward valuation, in line or certainly closer to the freemarket world value of the Iraqi Dinar. :)

Sara.

-- March 20, 2008 6:54 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara

Thank you for your blessings.....

I know this may sound a little ridiculous, but when I lay down at night, sometimes in utter exhaustion, and mom's care is done for another day......there is a gratefullness, and a feeling of privilege that I can't thank God enough for. AND I actually wake up each morning excited to do it all over again. I am not unique, when I was working as a Hospice nurse I saw this time and time again in wonderment of the caregivers of the fraile, sick and elderly. IT IS TRULY AN EXPERIENCE OF GOD'S GRACE. Because human effort could not produce such inward rewards. There is nothing glorifying or exciting about changing poop diapers 24-7, changing dressings on infected gaping wounds, a 24-7 commitment of feedings and administering medications, cleaning up vomit and droolings, repositioning frequently to avoid bedsores.......and the worse event ever of trying to figure out how to alleviate the suffering and pain of your loved one, especially when they can't tell you what is hurting.......

ALL GLORY TO GOD AND HIS MATCHLESS WONDER!

You know , if you look at mom (especially if you are a liberal) you would have to question why God would allow someone with her severely poor quality of life, to go on; thus, the premise for euthanasia. Prior to my own expereince, I had these same questions at times. " Lord, what purpose can this shell of life have?"

WELL! God's soverign will becomes so evident when you see and experience that this so-called purposeless life is contirbuting to the development and giving purpose to someone elses's life, that otherwise might not ever happen.

I could write a book about the experiences given to me and my family, because of my mom's present "purposeless" life .

I'll give you the most recent little story: my 7 year old grandaughter was staying with me last weekend. Mom was having a very difficult time and crying out. Maddison was very disturbed and wanted to do "something--anything" to help grandmama. I said that maybe she could read to grandmama. She decided that since she did not have any of her favorite books with her that she could read the Bible to grandmama. So I suggested the book of Psalms, which was always her favorite.

Maddison got started and I took a phone call which delayed me getting mom's pain medication ready. When I finally went to mom's room ( about 10 minutes later) she was asleep and restful.......and Maddison ( with eyes welled up with tears) said "she doesn't need it grandma I fixed her with God's Holy words!" And for days she would tell anyone within earshot about this. My daughter even got a call from her teacher,describing the remarkable interaction Maddison's sharing brought to the classroom.

Can you imagine the life's lesson this little girl experienced from the seemingless purposeless life of my mom? Not to mention the tremendous lesson and message God gave to my own life.

Well I know this is a disruption to the Dinar discussion but I do not apologize, because maybe, just maybe, someone else can be helped or inspired to contemplate the meaning of the sanctity of life.

Now, regarding Obama.....his church and other life affilliations, align him up with radical Marxist ideologies. It is fact, not supposition. The United Church if Christ established in 1957 as an off shoot of mainstream Christianity became a breeding place for the Black Liberation Theology. Those interested can look up what it all means.....very easy to understand....don't need to be a bible scholar to get the information assimilated that you need to make up your own mind about this whole subject.

I thank God for the exposure given to us about Obamma. Although, it was very predicatble. The problem is not with Obamma's real agenda, the problem is with the people who are blindly awed and drawn to him. No matter what the evidence is that points him out as a dangerous threat to our freedom and our American ways of life, his followers are mesmerized by him, and don't care about anything else.

History points out many Charasmatic figures who have woooed the masses and lead nations and people to destruction. Hitler would be a common and easy example, but there are scores of others throughout the history of mankind.

My opinion is that Obamma will not succeed because he is Black. His race will draw the definitive line at the voting booths. If he were white with this kind of ability to woo and persuade people beyond reason, we would be in big trouble.

Black people will follow white radical leaders, but white people will not follow black radical leaders.

I agree with Neil, we have the worst of the worst to choose from in this election. No matter what, whomever gets into office ( and I predict it will be Mc Cain), this country will need all of God's grace and mercy to get through the next 5 years.

For the Dinar....the train is finally on track, the engines are riving up, the conductor and the crew are boarding and soon, the whistle will blow and the sound "all aboard" will be welcomed by all of us!

Carole

-- March 20, 2008 11:17 AM


Sara wrote:

Thank you, Carole, for that wonderful story about your mother and her granddaughter. It was truly inspirational. :)

You know, you SHOULD write a book about it. Keep brief notes on it now.. to help you formulate the points you might make later. May God grant you the time and ability to put together such a book. It would be a blessing and a great help in the ongoing discussion about people whose lives are often deemed "expendable" simply because they are dependent. Your story here truly spoke to my soul and I thank you for sharing it. :) It is a precious truth that only God gives life, and only God has the right (morally, ethically, in every way) to take it away.

Murder in any form is a sin of man (It violates one of the Ten Commandments, "Thou Shalt Not Murder/Kill") unless God has specifically excluded it as allowable under certain circumstances (such as in war or self-defense) - it is also inexcusable even if someone feels they are doing it for "the good" and to "allieviate suffering." I truly think they do it to allieviate their own discomfort which is much like your mum's little granddaughter when she wanted to do "something - anything" to stop her grandmommy's pain. But killing is not the way to deal with pain and suffering. Mercy killing has no real mercy.. it is just plain murder by a nice name, and will be judged so before God one day. When a lady I know's husband came down with ALS (like Stephen Hawking has), she felt it best to take him home to care for him. Eventually, once he became bedridden, she assisted him to die on his own terms and with her help. I asked the Lord about it. He said, "She THOUGHT what she did was the right thing to do. She is fully justified in her own eyes." I know very well she is not justified in HIS eyes, and it will be His judgement - thoroughly just and fully aware of all men do and think to justify their acts of murder - which will prevail on Judgement Day. It would be a great help if people had such stories as yours to offset the idea that suffering must be allieviated by imposed death when there is no ability for the person to recover.

http://www.aish.com/movies/blinkofeye.asp (one minute long, touching)

Notes by Stephen Hawking on living with ALS: http://www.chninternational.com/stephen_hawking_and_als.htm

Thank you, also, for your notes about Obama not being fit to be commander-in-chief. I, too, believe McCain to be imperfect but the best candidate of the three and the best choice among them for who should be the next President of the United States. I note he DID change his position on abortion from pro-abortion to against it. This gives me some hope he can be wooed from false or left-leaning positions he may take on other issues toward a more conservative viewpoint in the future - which may be very, very important and win the day. He is not so set in his ways that he will never consider a question more closely if the politics of the day need to address it in a fresh way. Perhaps, for instance, the question of the border could be revisited once he is in office and he may be moved slightly more to the right of the spectrum and will be more sensitive to those who do not wish to be seen as giving away a "free lunch" to Mexicans. Within his position of care and compassion and dealing with what will be some degree of influx of foreign nationals, he may be pursuaded to take a slightly tougher stance so the American people do not feel "invaded" by those they view as "breaking the American piggy bank". Certainly, he is a reasonable man - the most reasonable of the three - and because of that there is hope. :)

I believe with President Bush that the right decision was and is being made in Iraq today:

===

Iraq a war U.S. 'can and must win'

Washington, March 19 (MIA) - US President George Bush marked the five-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq Wednesday by calling it a fight the United States "can and must win."

"Removing Saddam Hussein from power was the right decision -- and this is a fight America can and must win," Bush said in remarks prepared for delivery at the Pentagon.

The president reviewed triumphs and tragedies in Iraq -- from 12 million Iraqis voting in free elections to the beheading of captives. He also admitted the war was more costly than originally thought, but chided critics for their wide-ranging cost estimates.

When last year's upswing in violence led to a surge in troops, Bush said his administration "knew that if we did not act, the violence that had been consuming Iraq would have worsened, spread, and could eventually have reached genocidal levels."

The challenge ahead, he said, "is to consolidate the gains we have made and seal the extremists' defeat."

"The battle in Iraq is noble, it is necessary, it is just," Bush said, and "it will end in victory."

http://www.idividi.com.mk/English/429300/index.html

Additionally, this piece was excellent in noting the truth that "war critics can no longer credibly argue that we're losing in Iraq.":

Iraq success undeniable, Bush tells Pentagon
President warns pulling out troops would create 'chaos'
Sheldon Alberts, Canwest News Service
March 20, 2008

WASHINGTON - Five years after the United States began its military campaign to depose Saddam Hussein, U.S. President George W. Bush said the Iraq war remains a noble cause and claimed America is now on the cusp of a sweeping victory over Islamic extremists.

"The successes we are seeing in Iraq are undeniable," Mr. Bush said in remarks yesterday to an audience of military personnel at the Pentagon.

"The surge has done more than turn the situation in Iraq around, it has opened the door to a major strategic victory in the broader war on terror."

It was the final time Mr. Bush will mark the Iraq war anniversary as President, and he used the occasion to warn his potential successors that precious security gains will be lost if American troops are withdrawn too soon.

"There's still hard work to be done in Iraq. The gains we've made are fragile and reversible," Mr. Bush said.

"If we were to allow our enemies to prevail in Iraq, the violence that is now declining would accelerate and Iraq would descend into chaos."

"The battle in Iraq has been longer and harder and more costly than we anticipated, but it is a fight we must win," Mr. Bush said.

A year after Mr. Bush ordered an additional 30,000 troops to Iraq to combat sectarian violence between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, the President said "the level of violence is significantly down, civilian deaths are down, sectarian killings are down, [and] attacks on American forces are down."

While there remains "understandable debate" about whether the war was worth fighting, Mr. Bush said "war critics can no longer credibly argue that we're losing in Iraq."

Some of the biggest successes, President Bush maintained, have come in the battle against al-Qaeda in Iraq. For the first time, Arabs have now joined U.S. forces in an uprising against the radical Islamic group.

"The significance of this development cannot be overstated," he said.

The likely Republican presidential flag-bearer, Senator John Mc-Cain, issued a statement echoing Mr. Bush's optimism and saying the United States is "on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism."

"The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. ... Americans should be proud that they led the way in removing a vicious, predatory dictator and opening the possibility of a free and stable Iraq."

With signs of improved security in Iraq and with the U.S. military facing growing strains, the Pentagon plans to remove most "surge" forces by the end of August, leaving between 130,000 to 140,000 troops in Iraq.

General David Petraeus, the commander of American forces in Iraq, has recommended a pause in further withdrawal.

Mr. Bush said he would put off any more decisions about future troop draw downs until Gen. Petraeus and other military commanders report to Congress on progress in the war.

"Any further drawdown will be based on conditions on the ground and the recommendations of our commanders, and they must not jeopardize the hard-fought gains our troops and civilians have made over the past year," Mr. Bush said.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=387092
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-3-19/67804.html

-- March 20, 2008 2:37 PM


Sara wrote:

VP: Iran May Have Resumed Weapon Program
Mar 19, 2008
By DEB RIECHMANN

MUSCAT, Oman (AP) - Retaining his tough stance against Iran, Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday that Tehran may have restarted the nuclear weaponization program that a U.S. intelligence report said was halted in 2003.

Speaking in Oman, a U.S.-allied Arab monarchy and neighbor of Iran's, Cheney told ABC News, "The important thing to keep in mind is the objective that we share with many of our friends in the region, and that is that a nuclear-armed Iran would be very destabilizing for the entire area."

In December an intelligence report known as the National Intelligence Estimate concluded that Iran's nuclear weapons development program was stopped in the fall of 2003 because of international pressure. The report, however, cautioned that Tehran continues to enrich uranium and still could develop a bomb between 2010 and 2015 if it decided to do so.

Cheney said that while the NIE said Iran had a program to develop a nuclear warhead, it remains unclear if it has resumed that activity.

"What it (the NIE) says is that they have definitely had in the past a program to develop a nuclear warhead; that it would appear that they stopped that weaponization process in 2003. We don't know whether or not they've restarted," he said.

"What we do know is that they had then, and have now, a process by which they're trying to enrich uranium, which is the key obstacle they've got to overcome in order to have a nuclear weapon," he added. "They've been working at it for years."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VGJH980&show_article=1

-- March 20, 2008 4:42 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

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The top UN official in Iraq, Staffan de Mistura, warned Iraqi leaders on Thursday that time is running out for them to resolve differences hampering political progress.

"They should have more dialogue among themselves because time is short," De Mistura told AFP in an interview.

"We are all here together to work with the Iraqis but they should know, and they know but we should remind them today that the time is short for getting their own acts together as well."

Speaking on the fifth anniversary of the start of the war that toppled the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein, De Mistura said 2008 would be a crucial year for the battered country.

"It is a key day in Iraq today. But this is a key year for Iraq more than just a day. We feel this is the year in which many courageous decisions have to be taken to show that Iraqis can go forward," said the UN secretary general's representative in Iraq.

De Mistura said the recent fall in violence had offered the breathing space required for Iraqis to pass key legislation that could help end the bitter sectarian conflict which has killed tens of thousands of people.

He particularly cited the delay in passing the oil law on the distribution of the country's vast oil wealth.

"The political process is not taking enough opportunity from that window of opportunity in order to make sure that the oil law and other laws move forward," De Mistura said.

The oil law, seen by Washington as one of the 18 cornerstones for ending the sectarian feud, has been delayed in the parliament for more than a year due to differences between the warring Shiiite, Sunni and Kurdish factions.

De Mistura said the United Nations intends to play a positive role in the future of Iraq after suffering a setback in 2003.

On August 19, 2003, a massive bomb attack in Baghdad killed 22 people, including the then UN envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello.

"The fact that he was killed did produce a setback not only in Iraq but all over the world in the way the UN has been operating," he said.

"But we are back not only with a strong resolution but with an urgency that the Iraqis seem to be telling us of seeing more UN here," he said.

More than 360 international personnel, many of them security guards, and 200 Iraqis currently work for the United Nations in Iraq. Others are based in neighbouring countries, the majority in Jordan.

De Mistura took over as the UN envoy in Baghdad in November, replacing Pakistani Ashraf Qazi.

Last month, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees Antonio Guterres announced in Baghdad that the agency would increase the number of international staff from two to five and the country representative moved to the Iraqi capital from Amman.


De Mistura said the role of the United Nations in Iraq was also being taken seriously now by the Shiite-led government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki despite key differences over issues such as human rights and access to civilian casualty figures.

But these days "I see an increase in attention by the government and many others towards the role the UN can do," De Mistura said.
"They perceive the UN has got technical competence, impartiality, neutrality and no agenda. Plus it can add and attract additional international players inside the issue of solving problems in Iraq."

De Mistura said the United Nations would its best to resolve the issue of Kirkuk, the oil hub in the north of the country claimed both by Arabs and Kurds.

A referendum to decide the fate of the city was to be held in December but was delayed after UN intervention.

"It was a ticking bomb or a ticking clock as you know in December. We are going to come up with proposals and it would be up to the Iraqis to take their own decision," he said.
"We are like a doctor... to propose a medicine, make a diagnosis, push for the medicine to be taken, but at the end of the day it is the patient who has to decide."

(http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080320...raqwar5yearsun)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:29 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi Documents Show al-Qaida Ties
Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:09 AM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

A much-publicized report released by the Pentagon last week details the extensive ties between the regime of Saddam Hussein and a wide variety of international terrorist organizations, including Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.
“Despite their incompatible long-term goals, many terrorist movements and Saddam found a common enemy in the United States,” the report’s authors at the Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA) state.
But instead of reporting on this conclusion, most of the media accounts have focused on a single sentence that appears in the executive summary, stating that the report’s authors found “no smoking gun” or “direct connection” between Saddam’s Iraq and al-Qaida.

(http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/ira.../20/81851.html)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:30 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Ban orders transfer USD 100 mln from UN-Iraq account to Iraq Development

Fund UNITED NATIONS, March 20 (KUNA) -- Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Thursday ordered the release of USD 100 million from the UN-Iraq escrow account to be deposited in the Iraq Development Fund.

As of February 29th, Ban said in a letter to the council distributed today, the UN-Iraq Account contained the equivalent of about USD 1.023 billion.

Ban recommended that USD 187 million shall be held in the account as a reserve for any unanticipated claims.

The Council president during the month of February, Panama, had asked Ban to prepare a comprehensive status report on the processing of letters of credit pertaining to the oil-for-food programme.

Ban said the number of letters of credit went down from 210 in last December of 167 this month. "This number still remains high," he said.
(http://www.kuna.net.kw/home/Story.as...n&DSNO=1081651)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:32 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...98w8wD8VH8FT00

BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's prime minister said Thursday that his country must rise above violence and assert itself in international and cultural forums if it is to achieve normalcy as the war enters its sixth year.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki promised to strengthen Iraq's participation in international organizations in comments made at the opening of a cultural festival south of Baghdad.
"Iraq cannot be anything but strong, unified and active in the surrounding region. It will not be isolated," the Shiite leader said a speech broadcast on state television. "As Iraq has triumphed over terrorism, it will triumph in the international arena."
Al-Maliki's optimistic remarks were the latest in a series of appearances as he seeks to use a sharp decline in violence in the capital and surrounding areas to project a stable image for Iraq and bolster his beleaguered government.
The prime minister said the cultural festival in Hillah, the predominantly Shiite capital of Babil province about 60 miles south of Baghdad, was evidence that Iraq was on the road to recovery.
"This is a sign of the return to normal life in Iraq," the prime minister said before having to end his speech early after the power went out.
A day earlier, Iraq's presidential council, under strong U.S. pressure, signed off on a measure paving the way for provincial elections by the fall, a major step toward easing sectarian rifts.
The elections would open the door to greater Sunni representation in regional administrations as well rival Shiite factions.
Iraq's parliament passed the bill last month, but the presidential council had blocked implementation after the Shiite vice president, Adel Abdul-Mahdi, raised objections to some of the provisions.
The approval of the measure came two days after U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney visited Baghdad. A spokesman for the biggest Sunni bloc said Cheney pushed hard for progress on the elections as well as a stalled measure to share the country's oil wealth.
Many Sunnis boycotted the last election for provincial officials in January 2005, enabling Shiites and Kurds to win a disproportionate share of power even in areas with substantial Sunni populations.
That helped fuel the Sunni-led insurgency and the wave of sectarian bloodletting that drove the country to the brink of civil war before President Bush rushed nearly 30,000 U.S. reinforcements to Iraq last year.
As a sign of the ongoing threat, officials said three policemen were killed Thursday in a roadside bombing and a shooting in the northwestern city of Mosul, which the U.S. military has said is al-Qaida's last urban stronghold in Iraq.
Another police officer was reported killed in the southern city of Kut.
A senior Iraqi electricity official was released Thursday after being kidnapped the day before kidnapped Wednesday in the northern oil hub of Beiji, a police officer said.
The violence was reported by police officials speaking on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information.
The U.S. military, meanwhile, raised the death toll from three to five and confirmed that a female suicide bomber had blown herself up in the Diyala province city of Balad Ruz northeast of Baghdad on Wednesday.
The military also said an Iraqi soldier had been killed and another wounded Wednesday after a booby-trapped door exploded as they were clearing a water treatment plant in Diyala province.
A suicide bomber driving a dump truck packed with 2,000 pounds of explosives struck Iraqi troops in Mosul on Wednesday, killing a soldier and wounding 19 others, according to a separate military statement.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:34 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Relieving Iraq of Chapter 7 entails setting withdrawal timetable, says MP 20/03/2008 12:35:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Relieving Iraq of the UN charter's seventh chapter entails concluding an agreement with the foreign forces over a forces' withdrawal timetable that is related to Iraqi's capability of defending the country's security and borders
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:36 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi reconciliation conference in Japan on Friday

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Baghdad, 19 March 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Independent lawmaker Wa'el Abdul-Lateef said on Wednesday that the Japanese government will host an Iraqi reconciliation conference in Tokyo – capital city of Japan, that will start on Friday March 21, 2008, and will continue for ten days with the participation of many Iraqi legislatures from different parliamentary blocs.

Prior to his trip to Jordan, on the way to Japan, Abdul-Lateef said to Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI), "The conference, sponsored by the Japanese government, comes as part of a series of meetings that discuss the reconciliation issue that previously took place in different countries, such as Denmark, Italy, Turkey, Egypt, and Jordan, and it offers an opportunity to hear the different Iraqi parties' views concerning the reconciliation project, and the measures that should be taken in this regard."

He added, "The conference will be attended by Salih Al-Motlaq – Head of the National Dialogue Front (NDF), Qassim Al-Amiri – United Iraqi Coalition (UIC), Abd Motlaq Al-Jubori – The Arab Entity, Khalaf Al-Ilayian and Sa'ad Al-Obaidi – Iraqi Accordance Front (IAF), in addition to some other politicians and media figures."

The latest reconciliation conference that took place outside of Iraq was in Beirut – capital city of Lebanon, and witnessed the participation of different political forces.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:38 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

'War ended torture rule '

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Kabul, 20 March 2008 (Gulf News)
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The US-led war ended the brutal rule of torture and tyranny under Saddam Hussain, even if Iraq today faces the perils of terrorism and corruption, President Jalal Talabani said yesterday, the eve of the invasion's fifth anniversary.

"The brutal regime of the dictator fell ... the regime that ruled Iraq for decades, the decades of darkness. The decades that were of tyranny," said Talabani in a statement released on Wednesday. During Saddam's iron-fisted rule, the prisons were full of "innocent prisoners", said Talabani, a Kurdish former rebel foe of Saddam.

"These cells were Saddam's theatres for torture and brutal crimes."

The former regime violated all values of humanity. It used chemical weapons on men, women and children of Halabja and carried out the brutal Anfal campaign," he said referring to military strikes launched by Saddam's forces on Iraqi Kurds in 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war.

International human right activists say that nearly 180,000 Kurdish villagers were slaughtered in these strikes.

Talabani said the former regime kept the country "backward" even as the world progressed.

"Iraqis were not allowed to use mobile phones, or Internet or satellite channels. The regime prevented publishing of magazines and scientific journals," he said.

But the "liberation of Iraq" by US-led forces was the start of a new era, he said.

"The walk on this new path began five years ago but it faces huge difficulties. There is violence and terrorism and corruption has become a dangerous disease," he said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 20, 2008 5:39 PM


Sara wrote:

Coalition Forces Kill Two Suspected Terrorists, Detain Dozens
By American Forces Press Service
MichNews.com
Mar 20, 2008

WASHINGTON - Coalition forces killed two suspected terrorists and detained dozens of others in recent days during operations to disrupt al Qaeda networks in central and northern Iraq, military officials reported.
In today's operations:

-- In Baghdad, coalition forces captured an alleged al Qaeda operative believed to be part of the network distributing homemade explosives and related products throughout the country. The ground forces detained two additional suspects at the scene.

-- An alleged weapons facilitator and an associate were captured north of Samarra. The targeted individual allegedly has been stockpiling weapons for the last month.

-- Coalition forces targeted alleged associates of al Qaeda in Iraq senior leaders in Taji and Baqouba, capturing two wanted individuals and detaining six suspected terrorists. In Baqouba, they discovered a building containing homemade explosives, wires, markings and other indications it was being booby-trapped. The ground forces destroyed the building to prevent future use for terrorist activity.

In other recent operations:

-- In Mosul, coalition forces detained four individuals with suspected ties to terrorist leaders in the area in operations yesterday and today.

-- Coalition forces were approaching a targeted al Qaeda in Iraq propaganda network southwest of Samarra yesterday when several occupants refused to follow instructions to come out. Coalition troops perceived hostile intent from the resistors and engaged them, killing two and wounding two others, who were detained, officials said. In addition to the wounded, coalition troops detained 11 other suspected terrorists and seized hidden weapons and media materials at the scene.

-- In Baghdad, coalition forces captured a wanted suspect believed to be part of a homemade explosives facilitation ring and to have terrorist connections in the region. The ground forces also captured two additional suspected terrorists.

-- Coalition forces continued to target terrorist leaders in the Mosul area, capturing an alleged al Qaeda in Iraq leader for the network operating in eastern Mosul and another suspect.

-- A coalition operation in northwestern Iraq netted three suspected terrorists, including one who allegedly helps to move foreign terrorist fighters into Iraq. Further east, coalition forces targeted a suspected al Qaeda in Iraq operative in the Hamrin Mountains region and detained two suspected terrorists.

-- On March 17, coalition troops apprehended 17 suspected terrorists while targeting al Qaeda in Iraq leaders during operations in the Tigris River Valley.

-- An Iraqi citizen on March 17 led soldiers from the 3rd Infantry Division's 4th Brigade Combat Team to two weapons caches in the Shaka 3 region. The caches included nearly 100 mortar rounds, more than a dozen mortar fuses, a rocket launcher and four chlorine tanks. An explosive ordnance disposal team from Forward Operating Base Kalsu destroyed the weapons.

-- On March 16, Iraqi soldiers discovered a weapons cache of explosives east of Balad. The cache included ammonium nitrate, more than a dozen mortar shells, several pounds of homemade explosives, several weapons and materials for making improvised explosive devices.

(Compiled from Multinational Force Iraq and Multinational Corps Iraq news releases.)

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19745.shtml

-- March 20, 2008 6:56 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Military Kills 7 Suspected Insurgents Planting Roadside Bomb in Iraq
Thursday, March 20, 2008 AP

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military says it has killed seven suspected insurgents trying to plant a roadside bomb in northern Iraq.

Military officials say troops fired on the suspects as they tried to bury the bomb alongside a road between Samarra and Tikrit.

But Iraqi police in Samarra say those killed Wednesday were civilians who were trying to repair their car.

The U.S. military says an airstrike later destroyed the car after rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, homemade explosives and land mines were found inside.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340028,00.html

-- March 20, 2008 7:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - About your post "Iraqi Documents Show al-Qaida Ties" - I have seen that the MSM repeats the lies it creates which are usually half-truths, usually lifted from the context. As that article states when it says "instead of reporting on this conclusion, most of the media accounts have focused on a single sentence that appears in the executive summary", showing the MSM conveniently overlooking where the report, quote, "details extensive ties between the regime of Saddam Hussein and a wide variety of international terrorist organizations, including Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida." I was therefore very interested in the full article and went to newsmax looking for it. I could not find it.. would you be so kind as to post the full url to it for me?

While at newsmax, however, I peeked around on the site and found this interesting article:

Rasmussen Poll: McCain National Lead Growing
Thursday, March 20, 2008
By: Jim Meyers

Republican John McCain’s lead against both potential Democratic presidential opponents is growing, according to the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday.

McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49 percent to 42 percent, and Hillary Clinton 51 percent to 41 percent. That’s an increase of two percentage points for McCain over Clinton since yesterday, and one point for McCain over Obama.

A week ago, McCain was tied with both Clinton and Obama.

Rasmussen Reports also found that African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55 percent in a general election match-up against McCain. Obama, on the other hand, earns solid support from African-American voters but attracts only 36 percent of white voters in a match-up with McCain.

Over the past month, McCain has gained ground in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, and New Hampshire.

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama now leads Clinton 46 percent to 43 percent, according to Rasmussen. Before the story broke about his former pastor Jeremiah Wright, Obama led by eight percentage points.

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/McCain_Rasmussen_poll/2008/03/20/81963.html

-- March 20, 2008 11:20 PM


Sara wrote:

It looks to me from that poll that the white Democrat vote goes to Hillary, the black Democrat vote goes to Obama, and the fallouts and Conservatives are all going for McCain.. assuring him the Whitehouse.. :) since this controversy is not about to fade anytime soon..

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Rev. Wright's Remarks Unlikely to Fade Soon
Thursday, March 20, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Even if Hillary Rodham Clinton and her aides do not mention Barack Obama's fiery-tongued spiritual mentor, don't expect the Illinois senator's well-publicized speech Tuesday to make the controversy disappear, political strategists said this week.

Reporters, talk-show hosts and others will keep asking about Obama's close and long-standing relationship to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose most bombastic comments came to dominate the Democratic presidential contest recently, the strategists predicted in interviews. In video clips playing on Internet sites, Wright can be heard arguing that HIV-AIDS was a U.S. government plot to wipe out "people of color," and that God should "damn" the United States for its racist policies.

Should Obama become the Democratic nominee, conservative activists are virtually certain to remind voters of Obama's ties to Wright, perhaps by using the videos in TV ads, several strategists said.

"He can give a speech a week, and it's not going to make the issue go away," said Chris LaCivita, a Republican adviser who helped create the "Swift Boat" ads that severely damaged John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign.

In his much-discussed speech from Philadelphia on Tuesday, Obama strongly condemned Wright's most controversial statements. But he did not repudiate Wright or his overall ministry, saying the man who officiated at his wedding is like a family member.

The decision will haunt Obama, LaCivita said, because his political success is built on his image as a uniter and almost messianic figure who eschews divisive strategies. When that image is juxtaposed to Wright's outbursts comparing the United States to the Ku Klux Klan, among other things, voters will wonder if they misread Obama and his true character, he said.

Several analysts said they doubted that Republican presidential candidate John McCain or his campaign would overtly mention Obama's ties to Wright because it could look heavy-handed and racially inflammatory. But third-party groups, similar to the ones that attacked Kerry, might do so.

If they do, LaCivita recommends a light touch and simple approach.

"From a visual perspective, don't make it political," he said. An announcer might say, "'Obama preaches unity, but his friends don't,' and boom, run the tape," he said. "Why do anything else? Let people make up their own minds."

Jonathan Prince, a Democratic strategist who helped run John Edwards's presidential campaign, said Obama or Clinton will face attacks from Republicans and "are going to have to be incredibly vigilant to push back against all comers on those fronts."

"If he's the nominee, it's both a challenge but also an opportunity to engage the country in this subject matter," Prince said. "The general electorate is not paying attention right now. Barack Obama will be the first to tell you it's not a once and done speech."

Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio said many swing voters in the fall will not buy Obama's claim that he can no more disown Wright than his own white grandmother. "You get to pick your minister," he said. "You don't pick your grandma."

Obama should have distanced himself from Wright, whose most contentious remarks were made years ago, before the matter became a big campaign issue this month, Fabrizio said. The delay, he said, will cause people to question "what Barack Obama thinks and believes."

Republican consultant John Feehery said the Wright matter will hurt Obama in his ongoing contest with Clinton, even though the New York senator is almost certain to leave the racially explosive topic alone.

"Swing voters, ethnic voters, Catholic voters are not going to like what Obama did" in stopping short of repudiating Wright, said Feehery, naming groups that have rallied to Clinton in industrial states and could boost her chances in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

At least one conservative activist already has posted a video on the Web site YouTube with Wright's most incendiary remarks mixed with snippets from Obama speeches and interviews, which are edited to make the senator seem to be sputtering and unpatriotic.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_Wright_race/2008/03/20/81905.html

-- March 20, 2008 11:38 PM


Sara wrote:

I think I found the controversial youtube video of Obama and his pastor's remarks.. (2 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4&feature=bz302

I think we can judge for ourselves if it is putting words in Obama's mouth he never said.

Sara.

-- March 20, 2008 11:55 PM


Sara wrote:

David Frum on the 5-year anniversary of the Iraq war: Success finally seems possible
Posted: March 20, 2008 by Marni Soupcoff

For the first time in a long time, success looks like a realistic goal

Five years later, the debate over the Iraq war rages as hot as when it began.

We have never ceased looking over our shoulders. We have attempted to fight our way forward with our eyes fixed backward.

Mired in these old arguments, it becomes impossible to see anything new.

Just last week for example, the Pentagon released a study of 600,000 captured Iraqi documents. These documents detailed Saddam Hussein’s long history of support for Islamic terrorist groups, including Egyptian Islamic Jihad — which merged into al-Qaeda in 1998.

Yet this study was almost universally shrugged off: The debate is frozen and cannot accept fresh evidence.

Likewise, it becomes impossible to absorb the success of the new American tactics in Iraq. Iraqi civilian casualties have fallen to the lowest level since the liberation of Baghdad, down by more than three-quarters since November, 2007. U.S. casualties are down, Iraqi police casualties are down, car bombings are down, the flow of refugees is down. Some 80,000 previously unemployed Iraqi men now draw salaries to serve in the pro-government militia. Iraq oil exports rose 9% in 2007 over 2006, and have risen in January and February over their levels in 2007.

We slight the improving internal politics of Iraq. Iraq’s Sunni parties have ended their boycott of the Parliament. Evidence accumulates that young Iraqis are turning away from religious extremism: The firebrand cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in particular draws much smaller crowds at his rallies.

Even direct statements by the Iraqi insurgents receive little attention. On February 12, 2008, a newspaper in Qatar published a lengthy interview with Abu-Turab al-Jaza’iri, the al-Qaeda commander in northern Iraq. As translated by Memri.org, al-Jaza’iri acknowledged: “It is true that we have lost several cities and have been forced to withdraw from others, after a large number of [Sunni] tribal leaders betrayed Islam and when their tribe members joined forces against us.” He described al-Qaeda’s position as “very difficult,” and acknowledged that in certain regions, there was even “paralysis.”

In Memri’s dry summation: “Asked about possible reasons for the decrease in al-Qaeda’s popularity, Al-Jaza’iri said that indiscriminately murdering civilians had been a mistake that had ‘harmed the organization’s reputation.’” You don’t say.

It is never safe to make predictions about Iraq. The optimistic early projections of those like me who supported the war have proven disastrously wrong: I admit that. But equally wrong have been the dire predictions of 2006 and 2007, before the surge, when not exactly impartial observers such as former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright were damning the war as “the worst foreign policy disaster in American history.”

The Iraq war has been frustrating, protracted, costly and bloody. But it has also achieved large and important goals, of immense benefit both to the West and to the Arab Middle East:

1) The war removed from power an aggressive and dangerous dictator who did support terrorism on a very large scale, who did run nuclear and biological weapons programs in the 1980s and 1990s, who did use genocidal tactics against his country’s Kurdish minority and who did start two wars against his neighbors Iran and Kuwait.

2) The war has produced an elected government in Iraq, and put an Arab army into the field against an al-Qaeda insurgency. Television audiences across the Middle East have had to watch Islamic terrorism murder not just Westerners, Indians and Jews, but fellow Arabs and fellow Muslims.

3) The war has mobilized an Arab coalition against Iranian adventurism. Countries such as Qatar, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, which had played a double game on extremism and terrorism in the 1990s, have been forced into a much less ambiguous alliance with the United States.

4) Al Qaeda is on the verge of suffering an emphatic and discrediting military defeat, brought on by its own fanaticism, incompetence and bloodthirstiness. Al-Qaeda gunmen have chopped the fingers off Iraqis caught smoking cigarettes, attacked the families of prominent tribal leaders — even on one occasion forbidden merchants to display cucumbers and tomatoes in the same vegetable stall. (Traditional Islam does not require the separation of vegetables, but the sex-obsessed Islamists regard cucumbers as too phallic and tomatoes as too breast-like to be allowed near one another.)

These are real gains, and they point the way to a very different verdict on Iraq from that most often heard.

Iraq remains of course a very unpopular war, inside the United States and around the world. Yet the politics of Iraq are nothing like those of America’s previous unpopular war, Vietnam. This week, antiwar groups called for giant demonstrations to protest the war’s anniversary. Only about 1,000 people showed up in Washington, with comparably small numbers in other major cities.

While millions of Americans regard Iraq as a mistake, only a fanatical few dare to suggest that it was somehow morally wrong to topple the murderous dictator Saddam. What offends Americans about Iraq is lack of success. The negative public judgment on the war is a judgment on the war’s management — and better management will lead to a more favorable public judgment.

No excuses can be made for the war’s bad management, and especially for the unconscionable delay in correcting early mistakes. It was plain by the summer of 2003 that things were going wrong — yet not until the summer of 2007 did President Bush change course.

The President has received harsh criticism for this stubbornness, and deservedly so. Yet at the same time, a less stubborn man would probably have folded up in Iraq in the dark days of 2006 and 2007. Had, for example, John Kerry won the 2004 election, the United States likely would have fled Iraq at the low point, accepting humiliating defeat for itself and bequeathing chaos and theocracy to Iraqis.

Instead, at this five year anniversary we see better grounds for hope than at any time in a long time. The surge will end this summer. U.S. troops will begin to withdraw. If Iraq remains stable, more troops will soon follow, and the U.S. and Coalition role inside Iraq can then shrink.

In the end, the struggle in Iraq is the Iraqis’ struggle. But the West can provide decisive aid. Thanks to the heroic sacrifices of American service men and women — and also, I should add, to a new battle-plan devised in large part by my colleagues at the American Enterprise Institute — that aid has achieved more and better results in the past few months than at any time since the war began.

Does this mean success is at last in sight in Iraq? No — but it means that for the first time in a long time, success looks like a realistic goal.
If anything deserves commemoration this week, it is not some arbitrary anniversary, but instead that astonishing turnaround, rich with hope for Iraq and the wider world.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/03/20/david-frum-on-the-5-year-anniversary-of-the-iraq-war-success-finally-seems-possible.aspx

-- March 21, 2008 12:48 AM


Steve wrote:


All,
A word to the wise

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If you get an email along the lines of `Osama Bin Laden Captured` or Osama Hanged do not open the attachment

This e-mail is being distributed through countries around the globe

Be considerate & send this warning to evey one you know

It is a virus that opens an Olympic Torch which BURNS the whole hard disc C of your computer

This is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been classified by Microsoft as the most destructive virus ever

This virus was discivered by Mcafee yesterday and there is no repair yet for this kind of virus

This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the hard disc, where the vital information is kept

I got this from a reliable source, so heads up

Have a nice day and stay lucky, Steve.

-- March 21, 2008 1:09 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq to pay oil firms to boost its output
Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:43pm GMT

By Randy Fabi and Ahmed Rasheed

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Iraqi government is expected to pay up to $2.5 billion to five top oil companies to increase the country's oil output by nearly a quarter, a government adviser told Reuters on Wednesday.

In what would be the biggest foreign involvement for decades, Baghdad is close to signing technical support contracts with BP, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and Total.

Thamir Ghadhban, energy adviser to Iraq's prime minister, said he expected the contracts, which would add 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) to current production of 2.27 million bpd, would be signed by early next month.

"There is a rough estimate that it could cost about $400 to $500 million per field," he said in an interview.

"So a total could be up to between $2 (billion) and $2.5 billion over two years that should be paid by the government to companies."

With oil prices at around $100 a barrel, the contracts could mean extra revenues to Iraq of around $1.5 billion a month before costs, according to Reuters calculations.

Ghadhban said Iraqi representatives met with company officials last week in Amman, Jordan, to discuss final details of the initially two-year contracts, including whether payment would be by cash or by oil.

"As far as we are concerned, everything is positive and it's a matter of time for the minister of oil and oil companies to finalize and shake hands," he said. Shell is negotiating for the northern Kirkuk oilfield and is also in talks, along with BHP Billiton, for the development of the Maysan fields.

BP also has its eyes on Iraq's southern Rumaila field, while Exxon wants the contract for the Zubair oilfield in Basra.

Finally, Chevron and Total are looking to work together to develop the West Qurna oilfield.

Ghadhban said he expected the companies to boost output by around 100,000 bpd at each of the fields.

HEAD START

The ongoing talks have also given the five major oil companies a head start in efforts to bid for future oil contracts.

"I have no doubt whatsoever those five major companies are going to be qualified," he said. "They are major oil companies and of course they will be qualified."

More than 100 companies have registered to compete for oil extraction and service contracts to help develop Iraq's oil reserves, the world's third largest.

Ghadhban said the government was expected to announce the list of qualified companies next month, a month later than initially expected. He said the technical support contracts with the five oil majors needed to be finalized before the government could move on to other contracts.

-- March 21, 2008 6:07 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq polls possible after law ratified
Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:36am GMT

By Mohammed Abbas

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's presidential council paved the way for provincial elections on Wednesday when it signed a law seen by Washington as crucial to helping reconcile the nation's factions.

The three-member presidency council said it had approved the provincial powers law which had been held up over objections by Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi.

It came the day after U.S. President Dick Cheney, on a visit to Iraq on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the war, praised what he called "phenomenal" political and security improvements.

The war has cost the United States $500 billion (251.5 billion pounds) since the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein began in March 2003 and is a major issue in November's U.S. presidential election.

Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed and millions more displaced, with almost 4,000 U.S. soldiers killed.

Washington has been urging Iraq's Shi'ite-led government to take advantage of security gains and make progress on a series of so-called reconciliation benchmarks but many of the laws have been stalled by factional infighting.

The provincial powers law will define the relationship between Iraq's 18 provinces and the central government and is seen by Iraqi officials as an important first step towards holding provincial elections, due by October 1.

Baghdad and Washington see those polls as a way to draw disenfranchised Iraqis, particularly minority Sunni Arabs who were dominant under Saddam, into the political process and away from the insurgency and sectarian violence. Continued...Many Sunni Arabs boycotted provincial elections in 2005, leaving them with little representation in regional governments now dominated by Shi'ites and minority Kurds.

"The presidential council has decided to withdraw its objections on the provincial powers law," the council, which last month sent the law back to parliament for revision, said in a statement.

MORE AMENDMENTS

It gave no explanation why the objections had been withdrawn but the statement said the presidential council would work with parliament on further amendments.

Abdul-Mahdi, a Shi'ite, sits on the council with President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, and Sunni Arab vice-president Tareq al-Hashemi. The council must ratify all laws passed by parliament before they can be enacted.

Abdul-Mahdi had objected to the law over the right of the central government to remove provincial governors and to dissolve provincial governments.

The provincial powers law was one of three passed by parliament on February 14, including the 2008 budget and an amnesty law that could lead to the release of thousands of mainly Sunni Arab prisoners from Iraqi custody.

Washington hailed the passage of the bills as a major breakthrough and a boost for reconciliation, particularly between Shi'ites and Sunnis, Iraq's main Muslim sects.

U.S. officials in Baghdad also see the provincial powers law as one way to help clear a logjam of other laws, including a vital oil law which will determine how revenues from Iraq's vast oil reserves are distributed. Continued...That law remains deadlocked over disputes between Baghdad and regional leaders.

The United Nations envoy to Iraq, Staffan de Mistura, said on Saturday that Iraq's leaders were not doing enough to match security gains with political progress.

Attacks across Iraq have fallen 60 percent since last June, the U.S. military says, when a build-up of 30,000 extra U.S. troops was completed, but deep divisions remain among the nation's political leaders.

On Wednesday, a two-day reconciliation conference in Baghdad ended with no major announcements or recommendations after boycotts hit the poorly attended event.

Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had called the meeting Iraq's "lifeboat" but it began to unravel before it began on Tuesday when the Accordance Front, the main Sunni Arab bloc, and other parties withdrawing.

The Front pulled out of Maliki's government last August over long-standing grievances it says remain largely unanswered. These include greater representation for Sunnis in government and a larger say in security matters.

-- March 21, 2008 6:11 AM


mattuk wrote:

U.S. military fuel costs double from 2003 to 2007
Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:56pm GMT

By Rebekah Kebede

NEW YORK, March 20 (Reuters) - Skyrocketing crude prices have more than doubled U.S. military's global fuel spending since the start of the Iraq war in 2003 up till 2007, even as the volumes the military purchased slipped by 10 percent over the same period, the Department of Defense's energy-buying arm said.

The military spent some $12.6 billion on jet fuel, diesel and other fuels for its worldwide operations in 2007, the last period for which data is available, up from $5.2 billion in 2003, according to data released this week by the Defense Energy Support Center.

The energy bill for war in Iraq and Afghanistan last year was $1.7 billion, but no comparison was available for 2003.

Despite the surge in spending, the amount of fuel the U.S. military bought declined 9.5 percent to about 132.5 million barrels worldwide in 2007 from 145.1 million barrels in the year of the invasion, according to the data.

"(The rising oil price) makes our operations worldwide more expensive for the military services," said Jack Hooper, a spokesman for the DESC.

The increases in fuel prices have "wreaked havoc" on some Defense Department programs as officials pulled money from them to cover fuel costs for critical operations, according to a Defense Science Board report released earlier this year.

Defense Department officials were not available to comment on which programs had been impacted.

Energy analysts have said the turmoil in oil producing regions of the Middle East, including Iraq, is partly to blame for the surge in oil prices since 2003. Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said the Iraq war itself had added $5 to $10 to the price of a barrel of crude.
The average price of crude oil in 2003, the first year of the Iraq war, was roughly $32.50 a barrel, an amount that more than doubled by 2007, when the average price was around $72.50 a barrel.

By March 17, 2008, the price of oil hit a record high of $111.80 a barrel.

Soaring energy prices have also forced the Department of Defense to adjust its fuel cost estimates in the midst of a fiscal year for two years running.

The Department of Defense raised its internal benchmark fuel price by 31.6 percent just three months into the 2008 fiscal year, according to the Defense Energy Support Center. (Reporting by Rebekah Kebede; Editing by Marguerita Choy)

-- March 21, 2008 7:02 AM


mattuk wrote:


Last Updated: Wednesday, 26 December 2007, 14:36 GMT

Iraq government backs amnesty law
Detainees in Iraq

Thousands of Iraqis in custody have yet to be charged
Iraq's government has backed a draft law that enables the release of thousands of suspected insurgents held captive by US and Iraqi forces.

The amnesty law is thought to specify offences for which prisoners who have been held without charge can be freed.

Parliament must debate the law on Sunday before it is ratified.

The number of prisoners held by US and Iraqi forces, estimated at 50,000, has risen sharply after the recent "surge" strategy, boosting military operations.

Vital step

The strategy of injecting extra US troops to work alongside local tribal militias - many of them former insurgents - has been credited with a drop in violence this year.

The US military surge has also seen a steep rise in the number of prisoners, with entire neighbourhoods sometimes being taken into custody.

The general pardon law has taken months to prepare and is regarded as a vital step towards reconciling Sunni and Shia groups.

Sunni political leaders in particular have been calling for the release of the many suspected insurgents from their community being held in custody.

The law is believed to provide for the release of most prisoners who have been held without charge.

Some 24,000 people are being held in Iraqi jails, while US-run prisons in Iraq are believed hold 26,000 captives.

The US military says it hopes to release most of its detainees by the end of 2008.

Source: BBC London.

-- March 21, 2008 8:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Potentially good Kuwaiti Debt News. This article was on another forum, no link provided.
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Political first: Kuwait to Iraq: storm water Shatt al-Arab in return for omitting the debt

The delegation of Irbil that his country supported Baghdad, political and security, economic

Irbil - particularly funny
The Kuwaiti delegation participating in the Arab Parliamentary Union Conference, which concludes its work in Arbil this evening: It carries the idea of the draft include dropping his debt to Iraq in return for providing surplus water Shatt al-Arab

He eminent member of the Kuwaiti delegation, Walid Al told of the "morning" hoped the stability of Iraq whose people have suffered a lot during the past decades, stressing that this would contribute stability of the region, particularly neighbours of Iraq, including Kuwait, "All the suffering associated with the suffering of Iraq to Kuwait or another, and Iraq's stability is the stability of Kuwait. "score, and added," We are happy returning to Iraq and visit him what happened in the past, nobody peoples it is the wrong behavior to afford peoples, and hoped to return things to watch, and to return harmony to stabilize Iraq and the security and recover its economy, especially since Iraq has many components and potential and civilization established wealth and natural ingredients give, but they need the stability that we achieved very soon.

was Speaker of Parliament Mahmoud Mashhadani, Kuwaiti National Assembly Speaker Jassem Al-Khorafi affirmed in a press conference yesterday, that the two countries TOYA page on the past, started a new phase of relations in accordance with the principle of good-neighbourliness. And between member Kuwaiti delegation that the issue of debt cancellation discussion premature, since "we do not call for Iraq to pay could ask cooperation and integration and exchange, explaining that he presented the idea of the draft containing" Iraq Kuwait to provide water from the Shatt al-Arab surplus water from the Shatt al-Arab alternative funds, which something in excess of need in the future Iraq does not call now.

"The debt Kuwait to Iraq about 14 billion dollars, excluding reparations approved by the United Nations due to the invasion of the flagship, which hit 37 billion dollars, of which Iraq paid more than 12 billion by deducting 5% of Iraq imports oil, and Kuwait has pledged at the Madrid granting Iraq a billion and a half billion into the reconstruction of the country. drew to score, "that in the future could replace things not use the Iraqi people as we do without the money," Mstdricka saying:

"This idea still There can be other ideas and we want to crush Iraqi debt now can be no economic exchanges and investments given to Kuwait into Iraq and be in the interest of the Iraqi people. "and member of the Kuwaiti delegation pointed out that his country strongly supports Iraq in the political area, stressing that" Jasim Al-Kharafi President of the National Assembly stressed the importance of holding the conference in Iraq, and that Iraq Aeetm miss role in hosting this conference even when they Oman to host the conference was our position is to host Iraq and the success of the conference reflected on the reputation of Iraq and improve investment opportunities and give new hope for progress.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 21, 2008 2:08 PM


panhandler wrote:

HI ALL FROM IRAQ. . .DINAR IS AT 1189 TODAY, I LEAVE FOR SINGAPORE AND PHUKET ON THE 2ND OF APRIL. . .BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE STATE DEPT. . . WILL POST A LENGTHY COMMENT WHEN I GET THERE. . .HI LAURA, ROB, SARAH, ROGER, CAROLE, OKIE, CARL. . .TALK TO YOU ALL SOON. . .P.H.

-- March 22, 2008 5:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Preliminary agreement between the parliamentary blocs on oil and gas law

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Informed sources revealed in the House of the existence of a first-lists and parliamentary blocs Chairperson of the Council on the Law of oil and gas.

واوضحت المصادر ان معلوماتها تشير الى وجود هذا التوافق المبدئي بعد تطمينات مشتركة على حل النقاط الخلافية الواردة في مشروع القانون خلال جلسات المناقشة في الفصل التشريعي الجديد الذي سيبدأ يوم الخامس والعشرين من شهر اذار الجاري.//انتهى/ش ع/ع ر/برلمانية
The sources said that the information refers to the existence of this consensus after the initial assurances joint solution controversial points in the draft law during the discussion sessions in the Legislative new chapter will begin on the twenty-fifth month of this March.
http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl...language_tools

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 22, 2008 11:05 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Pentagon considering downsizing throughout the American forces in Iraq

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Pentagon considering downsizing throughout the American forces in Iraq
. Studying the Pentagon Pentagon is a new project aims to reduce the size throughout the American forces in Iraq.
. The New York Times newspaper said in its issue today, Saturday, senior military leaders had applied for the administration of President George W. Bush's proposals to postpone any plans to conduct additional reductions of American forces operating in Iraq at least until the end of next summer.
. The newspaper added that the American Defense Secretary Robert Gates met for the second day in closed meetings senior Pentagon officers to formulate the outline of the proposals submitted to President Bush next Wednesday. . According to the newspaper, Bush discuss the proposals with the commander of American forces in Iraq, General David Berríos via closed-circuit television next Monday and is expected to take Bush's decision is further reductions of the number of troops before departing on the first of April, in a 5-day tour include Romania and Ukraine and Croatia
http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl...%3D14%26m%3D41

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 22, 2008 11:12 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America

As Iraqi leaders confirmed in their Communiqué signed on August 26, 2007, and endorsed by President Bush, the Governments of Iraq and the United States are committed to developing a long-term relationship of cooperation and friendship as two fully sovereign and independent states with common interests. This relationship will serve the interest of coming generations based on the heroic sacrifices made by the Iraqi people and the American people for the sake of a free, democratic, pluralistic, federal, and unified Iraq.
The relationship of cooperation envisioned by the Republic of Iraq and the United States includes a range of issues, foremost of which is cooperation in the political, economic, cultural, and security fields, taking account of the following principles:
First: The Political, Diplomatic, and Cultural Spheres
1. Supporting the Republic of Iraq in defending its democratic system against internal and external threats.
2. Respecting and upholding the Constitution as the expression of the will of the Iraqi people and standing against any attempt to impede, suspend, or violate it.
3. Supporting the efforts of the Republic of Iraq to achieve national reconciliation including as envisioned in the Communiqué of August 26.
4. Supporting the Republic of Iraq's efforts to enhance its position in regional and international organizations and institutions so that it may play a positive and constructive role in the region and the world.
5. Cooperating jointly with the states of the region on the basis of mutual respect, non-intervention in internal affairs, rejection of the use of violence in resolving disputes, and adoption of constructive dialogue in resolving outstanding problems among the various states of the region.
6. Promoting political efforts to establish positive relationships between the states of the region and the world, which serve the common goals of all relevant parties in a manner that enhances the security and stability of the region, and the prosperity of its peoples.
7. Encouraging cultural, educational, and scientific exchanges between the two countries.
Second: The Economic Sphere
1. Supporting Iraq's development in various economic fields, including its productive capabilities, and aiding its transition to a market economy.
2. Encouraging all parties to abide by their commitments as stipulated in the International Compact with Iraq.
3. Supporting the building of Iraq's economic institutions and infrastructure with the provision of financial and technical assistance to train and develop competencies and capacities of vital Iraqi institutions.
4. Supporting Iraq's further integration into regional and international financial and economic organizations.
5. Facilitating and encouraging the flow of foreign investments to Iraq, especially American investments, to contribute to the reconstruction and rebuilding of Iraq.
6. Assisting Iraq in recovering illegally exported funds and properties, especially those smuggled by the family of Saddam Hussein and his regime's associates, as well as antiquities and items of cultural heritage, smuggled before and after April 9, 2003.
7. Helping the Republic of Iraq to obtain forgiveness of its debts and compensation for the wars waged by the former regime.
8. Supporting the Republic of Iraq to obtain positive and preferential trading conditions for Iraq within the global marketplace including accession to the World Trade Organization and most favored nation status with the United States.
Third: The Security Sphere
1. Providing security assurances and commitments to the Republic of Iraq to deter foreign aggression against Iraq that violates its sovereignty and integrity of its territories, waters, or airspace.
2. Supporting the Republic of Iraq in its efforts to combat all terrorist groups, at the forefront of which is Al-Qaeda, Saddamists, and all other outlaw groups regardless of affiliation, and destroy their logistical networks and their sources of finance, and defeat and uproot them from Iraq. This support will be provided consistent with mechanisms and arrangements to be established in the bilateral cooperation agreements mentioned herein. 3. Supporting the Republic of Iraq in training, equipping, and arming the Iraqi Security Forces to enable them to protect Iraq and all its peoples, and completing the building of its administrative systems, in accordance with the request of the Iraqi government.
The Iraqi Government in confirmation of its resolute rights under existing Security Council resolutions will request to extend the mandate of the Multi-National Force-Iraq (MNF-I) under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter for a final time. As a condition for this request, following the expiration of the above mentioned extension, Iraq's status under Chapter VII and its designation as a threat to international peace and security will end, and Iraq will return to the legal and international standing it enjoyed prior to the issuance of U.N. Security Council Resolution No. 661 (August, 1990), thus enhancing the recognition and confirming the full sovereignty of Iraq over its territories, waters, and airspace, and its control over its forces and the administration of its affairs.
Taking into account the principles discussed above, bilateral negotiations between the Republic of Iraq and the United States shall begin as soon as possible, with the aim to achieve, before July 31, 2008, agreements between the two governments with respect to the political, cultural, economic, and security spheres.
President of the United States of America
George W. BushPrime Minister of the Republic of Iraq
Nouri Kamel Al-Maliki

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 22, 2008 11:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Pan:

It is good to hear from you. Maybe we will see that rate reflected Sunday. I doubt it since the CBI is wishing to stave off speculation. Have a safe trip and please let us hear from you after you have arrived.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 22, 2008 11:28 AM


Sara wrote:

Awesome, Panhandler!! So glad to see you post. Please do post again soon and God keep you safe and happy. Appreciate all you have been and are doing! :)

I have been thinking on this post for some time, board. I hope you will indulge me one off-topic post to clarify my previously stated position on the issue of excitotoxins such as MSG, mice/animal studies and obesity in the human population.

Medical Clinic post on excitotoxins like MSG - lab studies and implications for humans

I thought it worthwhile noting that I am not justifying people who are without self-control in their eating habits by what I have said on this board about the liklihood of excitotoxins (such as MSG) inducing obesity in human populations. The Bible does condemn gluttony. However, when Dr. Russell L. Blaylock M.D. says in his book that animals do not overeat like humans do, and that if a group of scientists wishes to study obesity in animals they must artificially induce it.. and then explains that what they do in the lab is give excitotoxins (such as MSG) to the mice in order to CAUSE them to be obese for their experiments.. it makes you think that maybe this could be a causative factor in the obesity epidemic within human populations apart from the sin of gluttony. Also, whenever "American" diets become adopted in other cultures, obesity results. If this were only to do with gluttony and self-control, why were those who became obese not obese before the introduction of the change in their diets? Dr. Blaylock deals with this area in more depth on Page 80 of his book when he is explaining how deadly excitotoxins are to the pregnant and nursing states (much more so than in the adult population, which is why they tried to have it removed from baby food),
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"Dr. Shimicu and coworkers demonstrated that when MSG is given to pregnant mice their offspring have injuries to their hypothalmus glands and subsequently develop abnormally. Consistently, the animals exposed to MSG were found to be short, grossly obese, and had difficulty with sexual reproduction. One can only wonder if the large number of people having difficulty with obesity in the United States is related to early exposure to food additive excitotoxins since this obesity is one of the most consistent features of this syndrome. One characteristic of the obesity induced by excitotoxins (such as MSG) is that it does not appear to depend on food intake. This could explain why some people cannot diet away their obesity. It is ironic that so many people drink soft drinks sweetened with NutraSweet when aspartate can produce the exact same lesions as glutamate, resulting in gross obesity. The actual extent of MSG induced obesity in the human population is unknown." (end quote)

I do think these scientists would have naturally noted if these experimental animals were eating a LOT more food. Therefore, I think that statement above of "obesity does not appear to depend on food intake" would be a very important thing to note.. he is saying that it isn't the amount that these animals ate which caused their obesity, it is WHAT they ate (excitotoxins). This could apply to humans. And, since there is an incredible number of people continuing to grow fatter and fatter and fatter in the US despite their best efforts to slim down.. and when American diets are adopted abroad there are always weight gains in the populations of other cultures... there exists a strong possibility that this could be a result of lesions and hypothalmic damage from ingesting excitotoxins in the same way it occurred with these experimental animals. For those who object that this is merely justifying ungodly behavior (gluttony), please note the gif file below..

http://www.weight.com/obesity_2001.gif

Can you honestly say that such statistical data is due wholly to people in the US becoming more and more sinful.. eating more and more gluttonously? Yet, when you go to the street level and speak to US people who are overweight or obese.. they all say they are on a diet.. or trying to lose weight. They are all.. just .... without any self-control? Does that truly make sense? All I can say is the science points quite certainly to a degree of the obesity epidemic not depending on the ability to limit portions (self-control), but having to do with something else - chemical exposure.. exposure to excitotoxic substances.

Even for those who insist that the syndrome is a result of greater caloric intake (and there is scientific evidence for that hypothesis as well), those presenting the data at least admit that what they see in their experiments as increased "eating" is unrelated to "altered reward perception" in those experimental animals which had the excitotoxic lesions:

The effects of excitotoxic lesions of the pedunculopontine tegmental nucleus on conditioned place preference to 4%, 12% and 20% sucrose solutions

Abstract

A number of studies have suggested that the pedunculopontine tegmental nucleus (PPTg) may play a role in reward-related behaviour. The present study was intended to investigate this further using conditioned place preference. In conditioned place preference paradigms the amount of time spent in a preferred environment is proportional to the value of the reinforcement present, until a maximum is reached. In the present experiments we aimed to determine whether this relationship was affected by lesions of the PPTg by examining the formation of a conditioned place preference to either 4%, 12% or 20% sucrose solutions in food-deprived PPTg lesioned rats. The conditioned place preference apparatus had two compartments different in colour, smell and floor texture. During conditioning, rats were restricted to one compartment or the other, one of which was paired with sucrose. This was carried out during 30 min sessions, alternating conditioned or nonconditioned trials for 14 days. On the test day, rats were given access to both compartments through a connecting chamber, and were scored for side preference over 15 min. Both PPTg and sham lesioned rats showed a conditioned place preference to 12% and 20% sucrose, but no place preference was formed by either group to 4% sucrose. There was no significant difference between the groups in the place preference shown. Consumption of 4% sucrose was not affected by excitotoxic lesions of the PPTg, but PPTg lesioned rats consumed significantly more 12% and 20% sucrose than sham controls. This suggests that perception of reward value, as judged by CPP formation, is unchanged by excitotoxic lesions of the PPTg. The increased consumption of 12% and 20% sucrose shown by rats bearing such lesions is therefore not likely to be a product of altered reward perception.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6SYT-44V0PG7-J&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=4eacc26f6207dc94b6395d8bf576b4e9

If it doesn't PAY to eat more ("not due to altered reward perception" above).. why do these animals eat more after having damage from excitotoxins? Unless it is the excitotoxin damage which CAUSES them to eat more? And if these substances can indeed CAUSE overeating.. (something animals naturally do not do), why are these substances allowed in the food supply for humans to consume? Isn't it logical to wonder if it could be possible that excitotoxins could have a similar effect on human beings, and so contribute toward the obesity epidemic?

Either way, if it is as Dr. Blaylock said on the one hand - regardless of caloric intake.. or on the other hand as stated in this abstract - if it is excitotoxic-lesioned animals eating far more sucrose than the unlesioned mice.. EITHER WAY, excitotoxins are indeed something which could be responsible for the gif file changes in the human population growth of obesity.. QUITE APART from any considerations of sinfulness and gluttony (as I think we will agree that rats in the above experiment were not likely to become fat on their own). Of course, drugs have many reactions and perhaps both are true, depending on differing factors.. (Dr. Blaylock's quote of lab animals was of mice who became obese regardless of food intake, this abstract used rats who overate as a result of lesions from excitotoxins - perhaps the rats are like one segment of the population of humans, and the mice like another set - due to differing genetic markers within the population, similar to the species differentiation of rat/mouse.) It certainly needs more study. However, I do not see it as incorrect of me to bring up the subject of a chemically induced obesity syndrome, nor was I excusing the sinful behavior of gluttony by bringing forward the topic and its application to the health of the American population. I was only trying to explain what I saw as a deficiency in the myriad of "weightloss" advice out there.. almost all of which relate to fats, carbs, protein, vitamins, minerals, etc. IF that advice were making the differences in enough human lives, then there would not be an obesity epidemic.. and I do not believe that a lack of self-control alone appears to explain the data of increasing statistical obesity rates illustrated in the above gif file. The fact that this is now reaching down into the very young populations seems to show either a great degree of gluttony which was not in the young populations before.. or increasing excitotoxic damage. I merely was seeking to expound the idea that excitotoxic damage could be a part of that statistic (even a large part of it), quite apart from the consideration of sinful causation such as the sin of gluttony.

In support of the point that excitotoxins do cause damage to the human system.. A total amateur wanted to see if excitotoxins cause damage to mice. So she set up an experiment with mice in cages and fed them water with aspartame in it along with regular food. The mice all died of tumors and horrible lesions of many kinds within about two and half years. I think her work has some scientific validity, and so did the preface writer to her site "My Aspartame Experiment" - a toxicologist named Dr. Adrian Gross.. who states that the test mice were given only the equivalent of one diet coke a day.. not some huge amount equivalent to cases and cases of excitotoxic exposure a day. So here is the link to the study this lady did, and at the url you will find the photos of her experiment (not for the faint of heart).
QUOTE:

Dr. Adrian Gross, FDA toxicologist in a letter to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, Oct. 30, 1986.

When Victoria Inness-Brown contacted me about “explosive information” concerning aspartame (Equal,NutraSweet) the controversial, artificial, chemical sweetener, I didn’t know what to expect. Despite overwhelming scientific evidence of aspartame’s danger to human health (tires have been recalled for less) it remains in 6,000 food, drink and medicinal products.

Who could imagine a private citizen would do an aspartame experiment with 108 rats for 2 years and 8 months?

The late Dr. Adrian Gross explained that rodent experiments are the means to find out what a particular substance will do to human beings.

Look at Victoria’s pictures of her animals that ingested the equivalent amount of aspartame (in human terms) of less than one diet coke a day, until their spontaneous death. Importantly, the control groups, those fed no aspartame were free from visible effects. (1)

The artificial sweetener, Aspartame, was approved by the FDA, in 1981. By the 1990’s, the FDA had a list of 92 symptoms reported to them by 10,000 consumers, a list revealed to the public under the Freedom of Information Act. (2)

Personally, I have read thousands of cases from aspartame victims, many who post on Yahoo’s Aspartame Victim Support Group list, but Victoria’s photographs, the first ever to be released from any study, give meaning to the hypothesis, “A picture is worth a thousand words.”

Following is Victoria’s gutsy account of why she did her experiment, the protocol she used to conduct it and the remarkable pictures of the rats.

http://www.myaspartameexperiment.com/index.php

Note that while all those fed the excitotoxin DIED from it within about two and a half years (by one horrible means or another), quote, "the control groups, those fed no aspartame were free from visible effects".. that is, those NOT eating the excitotoxins did not have these effects. If you can make the step of logic to say that this one differing factor of excitotoxin exposure was the cause of the mice disease and deaths.. if it does all these things to mice.. (see the pictures on each page of this experiment, including the one of the grossly obese mouse) could it be possible it causes obesity in humans? I believe it is possible and I do not believe such a belief is inconsistent with believing gluttony a sin.

If a person is dealing with gluttony, they need to address that problem for what it is. But if it is not only overeating (which is the definition of gluttony), but is a physically caused syndrome due to a chemical exposure.. then I think that a repentance for any overeating may be in order (since overeating has logically occurred and needs to be repented of), however, I think time should be given also to address the underlying physical cause of the obesity and such persons should be encouraged to change their behavior by modifying their exposure to WRONG foods (excitotoxic foods) that may be contributing toward their obesity/weight gain. That was all I was saying.. not justifying sinful behavior.. as some suggest to me off board that I am doing. So I thought this merited a correction and expansion on the position I was taking in bringing it to the board for their consideration from a data/scientific viewpoint. I agree, exercise, watching caloric intake, fat/carb/protein composition, vitamin and mineral content, etc.. all make good food sense. But if what people are eating contains greater and greater amounts of excitotoxins (Dr. Blaylock says the excitotoxic exposure has been DOUBLED into the food supply every decade since the 1950's), then the fact that excitotoxic lesions cause obesity in lab animals should be taken into account as a causative factor, quite apart from which elements the diet consists of. Low fat, low caloric snacks and drinks - such as diet drinks, which also contain large amounts of excitotoxins to make the food taste good - may be causing excitotoxic lesions in humans like the abstract (or Dr. Shimicu's experiment), resulting in obesity which is related to that exposure alone. It seems unwise to me to condemn the rats in the abstract given above for acting sinfully and overeating when the only reason they did so was due to excitotoxic lesions, not a wilful or intentional increase in sinful behavior (gluttony).

I stood in line at a grocery store recently behind a very, very large woman and I noted her purchases were cases of diet soft drinks, low fat snacks, and foods which I knew to have large amounts of excitotoxins (such as low fat salad dressings).. and I wondered at the advice she was following to lose weight. She was obviously expending a huge amount of her consumer dollars on diet products in an effort to lose weight. I wondered if she would be able to do so eating that way, or whether her increase in exposure to excitotoxins would offset the lack of calories and fat, causing her to gain regardless of caloric intake or by causing lesions which will end up making her crave more food as the rats in the abstract. Would she lose the weight by caloric restriction, only to gain it all back when the lesions caused her to increase her sugar intake by twenty percent, like the rats? Or, would she see "no results" even though she was trying all this change in diet, due to the fact that in some experiments, "obesity induced by excitotoxins (such as MSG)... does not appear to depend on food intake"? I wanted to say something to make her consider her purchases in this different light, and I know those who market these products to her will never do so. So who will, and when? Did she need to repent of her gluttonous behavior? Likely. Did she have excitotoxic lesions which were at least a contributing factor? Likely also. Again, I do not think bringing up both the need for repentance AND the science behind excitotoxic lesions causing obesity is a disservice to these people as obesity is currently the number one contributing cause to a variety of health disease states, and a good fifty percent of the US population is on a diet at any one time.

I hope you had a pleasant holiday weekend, board. :)

Sara.

-- March 24, 2008 7:10 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Electrical Industries Co. receives $625,000 to boost productivity

The ministry of industry and minerals has set aside $625,000 from the American grant to back the production lines in the General Company for Electrical Industries, according to a statement released by the ministry.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 24, 2008 9:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Sadrists in Wassit demand stopping raids and arrests

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Wassit, 22 March 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Manager of Sadr office in Wassit province demanded the central government on Saturday interfere to stop raid and arrest operations against Wassit's residents in general, and Sadrists in particular, describing the current situation in the province as a "brutal attack."

"Sadr’s office in Wassit province demands the central government interfere to stop the raid and arrest operations against the province's citizens that started two weeks ago, by Iraqi and Multi National Forces (MNF)," Sheikh Sa'ad Al-Maliki told Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI).

He added, "This is a brutal attack, and the government and parliament must interfere to stop it."

Sheikh Al-Maliki asserted "daily continuation of this process engenders disruptions in security in the province, which will be reflected on people's lives, and Sadr office rejects this issue entirely."

Kut, capital city of Wassit province is 180 km southeast of Baghdad.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 24, 2008 9:54 AM


Sara wrote:

As the sacrifice of US servicemen and women's lives just reached 4,000, I wanted to honor that sacrifice by the reminder that the enemy sought the life of Jesus Christ just as earnestly and for some time before He was given to them.. but again, it was only allowed with design and purpose in it. No matter how senseless and humiliating the shameful death on a cross would have seemed to be as an end to a successful few years of ministry, no matter what a loser Jesus seemed to be as he hung there, suffering and dying - being ridiculed and mocked as He was doing so - there was a greater purpose being served. In a similar way, these sacrifices may be ridiculed, seen as senseless and used for mockery and propaganda by the enemy of mankind's souls, but these sacrifices are not without purpose. Remember, there was an achieving of a greater purpose in the end of Jesus' story, as there is also in this story concerning Iraq.

I remember going into Iraq that they estimated that 10,000 servicemen and women would likely die in taking Baghdad, and those losses were not only anticipated and expected, but resigned to as a very real possibility before the armed forces went into Iraq. Now, six years later, we are at only forty percent of that initial hard statistic. It has not been as costly a war in lives as we once expected though I totally agree with Rear Admiral Gregory Smith who said, "No casualty is more or less significant than another; each soldier, marine, airman and sailor is equally precious and their loss equally tragic." And I am praying daily for the troops - their safety and mission - and have through the holidays.

Though the enemy of men's souls has sought at times the lives of many (even of Jesus Christ Himself) - for those serving in Iraq the enemy's taking of their lives has not been granted except in small measure and with great purpose. Their sacrifice is not now nor will it ever be seen as having been in vain.

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Roadside bomb takes American death toll in Iraq to 4,000
March 24, 2008
Deborah Haynes, Baghdad

The number of US troops to die in Iraq since the invasion began five years ago hit 4,000 last night after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four soldiers.

One soldier was also injured when the roadside bomb - the biggest killer of US forces in Iraq - struck a patrol in south Baghdad.

A US military spokesman, Rear Admiral Gregory Smith, said, "No casualty is more or less significant than another; each soldier, marine, airman and sailor is equally precious and their loss equally tragic."

Despite the ongoing challenges, the President declared on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the war that the United States was on track for victory, while acknowledging the "high cost in lives and treasure".

Rockets and mortars pounded the US-protected Green Zone in Baghdad yesterday in a rare volley of attacks that injured at least five people. The nationality of those wounded was not immediately clear.

A US official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to release the information, said those injured included an American and four third-country nationals, meaning they were not American, British or Iraqi.

Up to 17 Iraqi civilians were also killed by rounds that most likely fell short of the sprawling compound, which houses Iraq’s Government and also the US and British embassies.

Attacks across Iraq have dropped dramatically since the summer thanks to the US surge, as well as a ceasefire by the powerful Shia al-Mehdi Army militia and a decision by Sunni fighters to side with the US military against al-Qaeda.

General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, the American Ambassador, are due to present a report on the situation in the country to Congress early next month. The United States already plans to withdraw more than 21,000 soldiers from Iraq by the end of July – a draw down that remains on track despite the recent wave of violence.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3609962.ece

http://www.irishnews.com/break.asp?tbrk=brk&par=brk&catid=5834&subcatid=642&storyid=354383

-- March 24, 2008 10:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Preliminary agreement between the parliamentary blocs on oil and gas law.
Saturday March 22 (March) 2008, at 12:23 Baghdad time

Informed sources revealed in the House of the existence of a first-lists and parliamentary blocs Chairperson of the Council on the Law of oil and gas. The sources said that the information refers to the existence of this consensus after the initial assurances joint solution controversial points in the draft law during the discussion sessions in the Legislative new chapter will begin on the twenty-fifth month of this March.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiodijla.com/cgi-bin/news/item.pl%3Fid%3D1206177805%26d%3D20080322%26w%3D6%26h%3D12%26m%3D23

-- March 24, 2008 10:50 AM


Sara wrote:

In time, Iraq will prosper. They will get their act together and do the political and economic changes that are necessary to move forward and have a peaceful, prosperous country. Insurgencies historically do not win. Much has already been achieved in Iraq through much hard sacrifice, much remains to be done. But it is happening.. :)

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Iraq, China: New oil deals
24 March 2008

Iraq and China are close to concluding negotiations on a 1.2-billion-dollar oil contract that was originally agreed to in 1997 under Saddam Hussein's government, an Iraqi Oil Ministry official has said.

"We are expecting that the next round of discussions, due to be held in April, will finish the negotiations", the official said on condition of anonymity.

According to the official, the Iraqi government presented proposals to amend the original production-sharing contract, with the country's new oil and gas law has bogged down in its fractious Parliament.

Iraq is planning to increase crude oil output to three million barrels a day by the end of 2008 from the current 2.5 million barrels a day by employing foreign companies' expertise as security improves.

The war-torn country also is targeting production of 4.5 million barrels a day by end of 2013. Iraq sits on the world's third-largest oil reserves, totaling more than 115 billion barrels.

Another oil official said that Iraq's cabinet had given the nod to the Oil Ministry to sign agreements with international oil companies to help increase the country's crude output.

The two-year deals, known as technical support agreements are designed to develop five producing fields that would add 500,000 barrels per day to the country's 2.4 million barrels per day output.

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080324061020/SecMain/pagHomepage/chnFeatures%2C%20Analysis%20%26%20Interviews/objC5C3675B-FF61-11D4-867D00D0B74A0D7C/

-- March 24, 2008 11:00 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraqi troops find rocket launch pads
By: Kim Gamel, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BAGHDAD - An Iraqi military spokesman said Monday that troops had found rocket launching pads in different areas in predominantly Shiite eastern Baghdad that had been used by extremists to fire on the Green Zone.

That's the area that houses the U.S. Embassy and the Iraqi government headquarters.

"We hope to deal with this issue professionally to avoid civilian casualties," said spokesman Qassim al-Moussawi.

Overall attacks have decreased against Iraqi civilians and President Bush has insisted the decline in violence shows his strategy is working and needs more time, a position endorsed by Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain.

Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwaffak al-Rubaie said he sympathized with the American losses but warned against pulling out U.S. troops before Iraqi forces are ready to take over their own security.

"Honestly, this war is well worth fighting. This war, we are talking about war against global terror," he said Sunday in an interview with CNN.

No group claimed responsibility for the Green Zone attacks, but suspicion fell on Shiite extremists based on the eastern areas from which the weapons appeared to have been fired.

At least 10 civilians were killed and 20 more were wounded in rocket or mortar blasts in scattered areas of eastern Baghdad, some probably due to rounds aimed at the Green Zone that fell short.

http://www.1057ezrock.com/news/56/687777

-- March 24, 2008 2:26 PM


Sara wrote:

I don't think any Christians are buying into this spin in the MSM. And I wasn't going to bring it to the attention of the board except for the exceptional comment below the story which says,

"The mainstream media wouldn't know mainstream Christian theology if it introduced itself and gave them its card. History shows that, to the dominant media in this country (and Europe), religion is as alien a concept as sex cults were to the Victorian English."

Now THAT bears a repeat, wouldn't you say? Clever, witty.. and unfortunately true. Perhaps they should require a college level course in what exactly Christianity IS for these journalists? This spin level lends a whole new chapter to the word ludicrous..

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Chicago Sun-Times: Obama's Church Preaches a 'Mainstream Christian Theology'
By Ken Shepherd
March 24, 2008

The rantings of Barack Obama's pastor sound strange to most Americans, Christian or non-Christian, black or white. Yet to some in the media, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's preaching is in the "mainstream" of Christian doctrine.

Take the Chicago Sun-Times's David Roeder, reporting on Trinity United Church of Christ's (TUCC) Easter Sunday service,
QUOTE:

Theirs is a mainstream Christian theology, but shaped by oppression that they feel yields a connection to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. It's a church they said most Americans could embrace if they only got beyond media sound bites. (end quote)

Roeder noted that TUCC, as it proudly declares on its Web site, is "Unshamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." The TUCC Web site also celebrates the church's identity as "an African people" that "remain[s] 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."

Now, of course, there's a wide array of debate among "mainstream" Christians over varying points of Christian doctrine, both between and within denominations, but the notion of ethnocentric identity within the church itself is alien to the preaching and teaching with which most American Christians, black or white, would be familiar,
QUOTE:

- "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal. 3:28)
- "For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him." (Rom. 10:12)
- "Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all."(Col. 3:11)
- "After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, 'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!'" (Rev. 7:9-10)

—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters

Comments

1) Sound bites? by Army Brat

"It's a church they said most Americans could embrace if they only got beyond media sound bites."

Rather than sound bites...they seem like full meals to me.

Hatred for America.

9/11 conspiracy insanity.

Aids created by whitey to keep the black man down total insanity.

I'm full already.

Happy Trails...

2) Black Liberation Theology by slp

Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr., and his successor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, preach Black Liberaton Theology.

Neither Black Liberation Theology or Liberation Theology are mainstream Christian theology in America.

Roeder is either a liar or uninformed.

3) Pardon the pun, but by mattm

Pardon the pun, but couldn't the Sun-Times piece be considered a 'whitewash'?

4) The Gospel of Judas by acumen

When it comes to the demedia's candidate, their ideology, their policy or beliefs, the end always justifies their means -- At any cost, at any cost...salvation not excluded.

4) Mainstream Media and Religion by Kirk Turner

The mainstream media wouldn't know mainstream Christian theology if it introduced itself and gave them its card. History shows that, to the dominant media in this country (and Europe), religion is as alien a concept as sex cults were to the Victorian English.

5) I've been attending church by rbosque

I've been attending church all my life and I have never heard any preacher talk like that.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2008/03/24/chicago-sun-times-obamas-church-preaches-mainstream-christian-theology

-- March 24, 2008 3:48 PM


Sara wrote:

And how many "Mainstream Churches" have published such political literature as this in their church bulletin? Yet in Obama's church bulletin from less than a year ago there is a claim that the Israelis were making an ethnic bomb to target blacks!! Wikipedia says the ethnic bomb was a conspiracy theory of ten years ago against Arabs (no mention of blacks) and was a work of science fiction. Note no mention of BLACKS,
QUOTE:

Allegations against Israel

In November 1998, The Sunday Times reported that Israel was attempting to build an "ethno-bomb" containing a biological agent that could specifically target genetic traits present amongst Arab populations.[6] Wired News also reported the story,[7][8] as did Foreign Report.[9]

Expert reaction to the reports was skeptical towards the scientific plausibility of such a biological agent.[10] The New York Post, describing the claims as "blood libel", reported that the likely source for the story was a work of science fiction by Israeli academic Doron Stanitsky. Stanitsky had sent his completely fictional work about such a weapon to Israeli newspapers two years before. The article also noted the views of genetic researchers who claimed the idea as "wholly fantastical".[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Bomb

==end quote===

The article mentions that such a bioweapon is not possible because of "the diversity of the human genotype and the spectrum of shared alleles across human races.[1][2]" In other words, because we share so much in common as humans, the races are too closely linked to target only one of them.. be it Arab or Black.

How is it possible that Obama could belong to a church that would take such a letter seriously enough to publish it? Do we truly believe Obama that, once again.. he wasn't there and didn't know they published this? (As some are saying Obama is claiming, see below.)

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Obama Church Published ‘Ethnic Bomb’ Claim

Mr. Obama’s church published this open letter to Oprah Winfrey (who was at one time a member of the congregation) in the June 10, 2007 edition of their bulletin (click here for pdf file http://tinyurl.com/28fhy4 ):

Open Letter to Oprah

Dear Oprah,

I am so glad that you will be visiting my country, Palestine. I wish if I could be there to greet you. Certainly, despite the genocide and ethnic cleansing they face every hour of the day, my people will be there. They will be happy to see you and will receive you with open arms.

Unfortunately, I cannot be there! My family tree and my roots in Palestine go back to time immemorial, long before Islam, Christianity and Judaism came into being. Last July, I was given entry to my homeland only as a tourist, with an American passport and a Japanese camera. Though I am 70 years old, I had to stand at the Israeli immigration window at Sheikh Hussein entry point on the Jordan River for over seven hours before I was allowed in to visit my home and family. Months earlier, Canadian Jews were processed and given Israeli citizenship to my land while they were 35,000 feet high over the Atlantic.

Arabs, throughout history, are known to be hospitable to their guests. You will be no exception. For many centuries, Jews escaped the discrimination and death they were subjected to in Europe, and found safety and refuge among us. Muslims believe in Christianity and Judaism. The Quran states there is no distinction between Muhammad, Jesus and Moses. Therefore, according to our Islamic teachings, all are prophets of God and all must be honored and respected.

You must know that Zionist Jews from all over the world, particularly Europe, came to my Palestine, not as guests, but as settlers and occupiers in the early part of the 20th century. The natives were referred to as “snakes” from which the land must be cleansed. In 1948 they occupied 72% of my land and emptied out over 500 Arab (Christian and Muslim) towns and villages. In 1967 they occupied the remaining 28%. Six million of us have been living in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon for the last fifty nine years, even though the United Nations ordered the Israeli government to allow us to return (1948 UN resolution 194).

Our Palestine is so beautiful. You will enjoy it. It is a museum. So many civilizations have mixed and melted there. Throughout history, invaders came and finally left. We remained. We survived. As we offered the Crusaders who occupied our holy lands for two hundred years, Jews can stay and share our land, if they wish to live in a free and democratic Palestine that respects the rights of all, regardless of their religion, race, or ethnicity. Those who refuse and insist to live in an apartheid state will inevitably pack up and return to their native lands.

Please, visit Jaffa, Haifa, Acre, and Nazareth within the so-called Green Line. Take pleasure in the aroma of our orange orchards on the Mediterranean coast. Drive to the top of the Mount of al-Carmel and enjoy its beauty and the splendid view.

Elie Wiesel, your host, will take you to the Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem to show you the crimes committed by the Germans against the Jews. Undoubtedly, when the visit is completed, he will attempt to usher you away; but if you look down across the valley you can see the site of the massacre of the village of Deir Yassin. Hundreds of armless and helpless Arab men, women, and children were shot to death, by the Irgun, Wiesel’s associates and friends, in April 1948. The remaining women survivals were paraded in trucks through the streets of Jerusalem. I can never forget this scene, just can’t. My family, among the thousands of Palestinians, had to flee. “NEVER AGAIN” are two hollow words. They don’t apply to non-Jews.

Oprah, I beg you not to forget visiting Gaza and the West Bank where over three million of us still live. All attempts made to force them leave and run for their lives have failed. Take pictures of the 700 kilometer apartheid wall and reflect on the political messages of the graffiti it displays. I was struck by one of these messages at the entry to Bethlehem. “Thou not steal.” Confiscation of our lands, however, continues until this day.

Experience some of the military check points where our people have to stand in line for hours before they are allowed to cross. Witness the harassment and degradation my people are subjected to. A 20 minute journey from a village to another takes 7 hours. Many pregnant Arab women have lost their babies while waiting for clearance on their way to hospitals. There are over 550 of these checkpoints that divide our land into ghettos in the West Bank alone. Though the water we get does not meet our basic needs, notice the swimming pools Israelis enjoy in settlements built on our stolen lands.

Of course, the highlight of your trip will be the performance of pilgrimage in Jerusalem, the city of Jesus. It is also the city of my birth. The school I attended is the site of the palace where he received his death sentence. My home is only a couple of blocks away from the Via Dolorosa, the path he took to his crucifixion. Walk through the narrow and curved alleys where he walked. I did that without interruption for 23 years. Those days are gone.

Oprah, stand on top of the Mount of Olives, as I often did, and experience the glory and majesty of Jerusalem, its al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, the Holy Sepulcher, and other houses of worship. Observe the magnificence of the ancient wall built by Muslims to defend and protect these priceless treasures. Hear al-azan, the Muslim call for prayer, as it joins in unison with bells coming from Christian churches. What an eternal symphony!

Please proceed to the village of Bethany, three miles to the east. Go down the steps of the cave that leads to the tomb of Lazarus, whom Jesus raised from the dead. The small dark room on top of the cave was the shelter my mother, my three younger sisters, and I took after we escaped the carpet bombing of the old city of Jerusalem in 1948. My Muslim cousin is the custodian of the holy cave, a great honor that his family inherited from a generation to a generation. His father, an illiterate, was able to recite to Christian worshipers the story of Lazarus, in English, French, German, Spanish, Russian, Greek, and other foreign languages.

Don’t miss the opportunity to drive five miles south to Bethlehem. Feel the ecstasy of entering the most dramatic cave in which the Virgin Mary delivered her beautiful Palestinian baby. During the Second Intifadah, the uprising against Israeli occupation, Muslim and Christian activists, chased by the Israeli death squads, were given refuge in the church.

You may go and see the Jordan River where Jesus was baptized, only a thirty minute drive. Beware; don’t plunge into the dirty and polluted waters. The river is almost dry. Its waters were diverted by the Israelis. Five miles west, near Jericho, you will pass by the Mount of Temptation where Jesus fasted for forty days. I can no longer walk up the steep mountain and pay respect to the Greek monks who chose to dedicate their lives to their Lord at their ancient and lonely monastery at the summit.

I do know that Mr. Mandela, who is probably the most respected man on Earth today, is your friend and hero. He is also mine. I met him in Chicago; and I had the honor of visiting him at his home in South Africa, years back. You are also a friend and a great admirer of Cape Town Archbishop Tutu, a Nobel Peace Prize dignitary, a man who has stood against injustice and racism almost his entire life. Both men describe Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, the natives of the land, as worse than apartheid. Recently, Israel prevented Bishop Tutu from coming to Gaza to investigate and report Israel’s war crimes to the United Nations.

I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the White Supremacists of South Africa. In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa. The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.

Arabs have always supported the dismantling of this racist government. In 1962, African-Arab Sudan granted Mandela a passport to travel with to gain international support in his struggle to free his people. Libya, among other Arab states, provided Mandela and other African liberation movements, political as well as material support. As a result, Libya was designated by the White House as a terrorist rogue state. What a great honor!

A few days ago, Amnesty International’s annual report was released. The report slams Israel’s conduct in the occupied territories. It documents some of the “serious human rights abuses” Israel commits daily. It also spoke of the “war crimes” that Israel had committed in Lebanon.

Arnold Toynbee, the world renowned historian, stated that what the Zionist Jews did to the Palestinians is worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews, because, as he stated, Jews should have learned from their tragic experience.

Dear Oprah, I do understand the enormous pressure you are subjected to. But I am encouraged by your speech to Howard University graduates. “My integrity is not for sale.… Do not be a slave to any form of selling out”, you remarked.

When you return, may God of the Universe grant you the courage to tell the world of what you actually witnessed. Judging from the terrible attacks and insults former President Jimmy Carter has recently experienced for his book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, I do not claim that the task is easy. However, it would be an unforgivable crime for those who have suffered from slavery and are still suffering from discrimination, to ignore the suffering of others.

With Peace and Love,

Ali Baghdadi

(arabjournl@aol.com)

(An Arab-American activist, writer, columnist; worked with several African-American groups on civil and human rights issues since the mid sixties; acted as a Middle East advisor to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad the founder of the Nation of Islam, as well as Minister Louis Farrakhan; visited more than 80 countries throughout the world and met with many of their leaders, including Mandela, Castro, Saddam Hussein, Hafez Assad, Qathafi, Abdallah ibn Abdel-Aziz, Rafsanjani, Ayatollah Khamenei, among many others.)

===end quote===

And how is it possible that Mr. Obama could belong to a church that would take such a letter seriously enough to publish it?

QUOTE: The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs. (end quote)

This is sheer insanity. But what else can one expect from “a Middle East advisor” to Messers Elijah Muhammad and Farrakhan?

Unsurprisingly, this letter originally appeared in the March 6, 2007 publication of the Palestine Times.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Monday, March 24th, 2008.

Comments:

1) Diane

“Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs.”

Wow. I know of no fact, extrapolation of fact, or theory that would allow the construction of something like that, unless it killed pretty much everyone else, too. But I guess in a world where people believe the WTC was destroyed by timed demolitions, even a howler like this will get some believers.

I’m still perplexed about the racial composition of that church. I have yet to find anything resembling statistics, but I keep running across the word “multiracial” with respect to the church (and the reference to that lone white member). Did the non-black members get a special membership class? No doubt a separate but equal class.

2) Petra

Arab-American Activist Says Obama Hiding Anti-Israel Stance

“The Arab-American activist went on to say: “In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.”

“Obama’s about-face is not surprising,” Abunimah wrote. “He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power.”

When Obama first ran for the Senate in 2004, the Chicago Jewish News interviewed him on his stance regarding Israel’s security fence. He accused the Bush administration of neglecting the “Israeli-Palestinian” situation and criticized the security fence built by Israel to prevent terror attacks: “The creation of a wall dividing the two nations is yet another example of the neglect of this Administration in brokering peace,” Obama was quoted as saying.

(url link given at below url)

3) Cincinnatus

“visited more than 80 countries throughout the world and met with many of their leaders, including Mandela, Castro, Saddam Hussein, Hafez Assad, Qathafi, Abdallah ibn Abdel-Aziz, Rafsanjani, Ayatollah Khamenei, among many others”

No doubt Osama bin Laden was among the “many others.”

4) Petra

MG: The wiser Obamintes on the DU site are acknowledging they have a problem with Pastorgate and are arming themselves with responses.

Hillary’s Prayer: Hillary Clinton’s Religion and Politics
September 1, 2007
By Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet
Illustration by: Andy Friedman
(url at below)

News: For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill. Is she triangulating—or living her faith?
(url at below)

This is another smear job that’s been thrown around for a while and continues to be used to smear the witch on DU. I have to say, imo, the Clintonites are more decent that the Obamites - they’re vicious.

5) Dave2882

According to WND:

Late Thursday, following WND’s Debbie Schlussel’s story, Obama e-mailed a statement to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency criticizing Hamas and noting that he was not in church the day the bulletin was distributed.

“I have already condemned my former pastor’s views on Israel in the strongest possible terms, and I certainly wasn’t in church when that outrageously wrong Los Angeles Times piece was re-printed in the bulletin,” Obama said.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-church-published-anti-israel-letter

-- March 24, 2008 4:37 PM


Sara wrote:

By now you likely have heard about the controversy concerning "unauthorized" people looking at Obama's passport.

As I pondered Obama's passport being looked at, I wondered if those looking into it were looking for possible connections between Obama and terrorists. And I wondered why the records of where Obama has gone are sealed away from public scrutiny (in the name of "privacy") when he is seeking the highest political office in the land. Is he hiding something?

I believe it very likely that Obama will face charges in a US court on the issue of terrorism in the near future. Also, the passport-looking for where he was and when may have relevance to the court in that day. I think someone now has people who know what those records contain and they could show any connections they may need to in that future day at court, quite apart from what changes to that record occur today.

===

Obama Connection to Terrorists Revealed by Talk Show Host
By Jim Kouri
MichNews.com
Mar 24, 2008

There is a far-reaching scandal brewing for presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, thanks to a radio talk show host based in Oregon. Syndicated talk host Laurie Roth's revelations make the news story about Obama's relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor look like child's play.

A top official at the Pentagon during former-President George H. W. Bush's Administration and a former CIA intelligence officer maintain that Barack Obama and former Weather Underground honcho William Ayers funneled money to Professor Rashid Khalidi, a known terrorist sympathizer.

Khalidi serves on the faculty of Columbia University in New York and is best known as the professor who invited Iranian President Ahmedinejad to visit Columbia University after he finished his speech at the United Nations. According to confidential sources, Khalidi has direct ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), a group on the US State Department's list of known terrorist groups.

"One source for this information was once a top military figure in the 1990s. He doesn't take making allegations lightly. If he says something happened, believe me, it happened," said syndicated radio talk show host Laurie Roth

"Another source is a former agent for the Central Intelligence Agency, who is an expert in counterterrorism," said Roth, who broke the story on her show Friday night.

"I certainly don't want to demonize someone because they are a woman, black or liberal running for President. I love the idea that in our culture, a black and woman can now run. However, it does matter to me with any candidate, their consistency with good judgment, their voting record, their association with people with questionable backgrounds and commitment to our country," she said during her show.

Here are the connections as described by very reliable sources, who possess impressive military, national security and intelligence backgrounds:

Allison Davis, who hired the young Obama into his small, Chicago law firm Davis, Miner, and Barnhill in 1993, left the firm in late 1999-2000 and became a housing developer. Davis went into business with Tony Rezko, the indicted businessman who's scheduled to go on trial for corruption in Illinois, and who was a major fundraiser for Obama.

Davis met Rezko when he was a client of Davis, Miner, and Barnhill. Rezko is currently under indictment in Illinois for demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state government business contracts under Governor Blagojevich. Obama was identified as one of the politicians cited in the indictment as having received political contributions from Rezko out of his kickback funds.

Tony Rezko hosted fundraising events for Obama in his home and was on Obama's US Senate campaign finance committee which collected $14 million for his campaign against conservative Alan Keyes, an African-American who served as an Ambassador during the Reagan Administration. In order to avoid a scandal during his presidential campaign, Obama returned $85,000 that Rezko and his family had donated to him.

In early 2000, while Obama served as a state senator in Illinois, he also sat on the board of the nonprofit Woods Fund. The Woods Fund is a Chicago-based foundation that claims its primary mission is to make financial grants in order to increase and/or create opportunities for disadvantaged people and low-income communities.

The chairman of the Woods fund board in 2000 was Howard Stanback, who like Obama also had connections to Davis, according to the reliable sources.

Davis submitted a grant request to the Woods Foundation for a $1 million investment in his development partnership, Neighborhood Rejuvenation LP, that would be used to finance low-income senior-citizen housing. Under normal circumstances, a board member is supposed to recuse himself or herself from decisions where they have a business or personal relationship.

Obama, who did not recuse himself, voted to approve Davis' grant request. Stanback, on the other hand, abstained from voting. The housing project, which also received a $5.7 million loan from the city of Chicago, in turn donated almost $70,000 in political contributions to Obama's presidential campaign.

In the past, Rezko gave Obama -- who served as an Illinois State Senator -- his first two political contributions in 1995, $1,000 each from two of his companies. In 1998, State Senator Obama wrote letters to city and state officials urging them to fund a Davis-Rezko housing project. It was an obvious quid pro quo arrangement.

Another major fundraiser for Obama is William Ayers, who also sat on the board of the Woods Fund with Obama and is a professor at the University of Chicago.

Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernadine Dohrn, was an active member of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing group that advocated violence against the United State. Both Ayers and Dohrn went "underground" in 1970 after others in the group accidentally detonated a bomb in a Greenwich Village (New York City) townhouse. The blast killed three of the group's members including Ayers' girlfriend at the time.

While Ayers and Dohrn were hiding from law enforcement, the Weather Underground participated in the bombings of the US Capital, the Pentagon and a State Department building. In 1981 Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in to federal authorities, but all charges were dropped as a result of alleged "government legal misconduct." In his 2001 memoir, Ayers wrote, "I don't regret setting the bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."

Ayers and Dohrn are known to have held at least one fundraiser for Barack Obama in their Chicago home.

During Obama's last year on the board of The Woods Fund (2002), he participated in awarding grants, including a $70,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, a Chicago-based group founded by Rashid and Mona Khalidi.

In another suspected quid pro quo arrangement similar to those with Ayers and Rezko, Rashid Khalidi also held a fundraising event in his home for Barack Obama.

In the Middle East, Rashid Khalidi was known as a man to be reckoned with. From 1972 through 1983, Khalidi was the director in Beirut of the official Palestinian press agency, FAFA. His wife worked there as well.

According to sources, when the Khalidi's left Chicago for Columbia University in New York, Rashid was honored with the Edward Said Chair in Arab Studies at that Ivy League university. Their goodbye party in Chicago included testimonials from Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.

"What other fund raising connections does Obama have? How many times can you look the other way in church and with fund raising situations with more than questionable people?" asked Ms. Roth.

"We all make mistakes in judgment with people and their backgrounds sometimes, but usually we learn and pick better friends and associates. How come Obama seems to have continued hanging around more than questionable characters with anti American backgrounds and some with criminal behaviors? Now one is being indicted, Tony Rezco, who raised a ton of money for Obama," she said.

"As President, how much would he look the other way when dealing with national security and dangers to our country? How much would he listen passively to terrorist leaders then lecture us on our ugly American status? This kind of change is not what our country needs!" added the popular talk show host.

In a related story, during an interview on Thursday morning (March 20) with Black Panther leader Malik Zulu Shabazz, Fox News Channel viewers learned that Shabazz' group endorsed and supported Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States. Even on Fox -- an organization wrongly accused of being "conservative" -- the interviewers were careful in their questioning of Shabazz, a recognized racist and anti-American radical.

The New Black Panther Party leader proudly announced on Fox News that his organization endorsed and Obama for President.

"While some people may say that Barack Obama has no control over who endorses him, he should have control over what endorsements are posted on his websites," said Laurie Roth, who, besides hosting a popular talk show, is a regular columnist for NewswithViews.com

"The endorsement of the New Black Panther Party was posted on Barack Obama's website. Why was this tolerated unless Barack Obama wanted their endorsement? If he does not want their endorsement, how much control over his staff is he going to have once he's elected President?" asks Mike Baker.

The New Black Panther Party is openly anti-White, anti-Jewish, and anti-America. After Obama's Tuesday damage-control speech, his campaign pulled the Black Panthers' endorsement story off their website.

It's also been reported that Obama's campaign staff was allowed to fly a Che Guevara flag inside his office, according to NewsMax.

www.newsmax.com/fontova/obama_campaign/2008/02/14/72655.html

"Do these revelations demonstrate a pattern of Barack Obama's judgment? If so, then I do not want him dealing with world leaders. I do not want these groups having access to the White House. Do you?" asks the New Jersey-based political strategist.

"It appears the Barack Obama water carriers within the mainstream news media are on the job as usual -- ignoring another story that has the alternative media on the Internet buzzing: Obama's embracement of an endorsement by the radical, racist organization," Baker added.

- Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). In addition, he's the new editor for the House Conservatives Fund's weblog. Kouri also serves as political advisor for Emmy and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19773.shtml

-- March 24, 2008 6:34 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq's stock exchange goes electronic http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

-- March 24, 2008 10:05 PM


Anonymous wrote:

-- March 24, 2008 10:10 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Putin urges Iraq to let in Russian oil companies: Kremlin

President Vladimir Putin lobbied Iraq's prime minister Monday on behalf of Russian companies trying to get involved in rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure, particularly its crucial oil and gas sector.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 25, 2008 9:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Heavy fighting breaks out in southern Iraqi city

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Basra, 25 March 2008 (Gulf News)
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Heavy fighting broke out on Tuesday in Iraq's southern city of Basra, where Iraqi authorities have clashed with members of the Mehdi Army militia.

An Iraqi military official said Iraqi forces had launched operations to "cleanse" Basra of armed groups.

"Sounds of explosions were heard in different areas of Basra and columns of smoke have been rising from northern districts of the city," a witness said.

Basra hospital has begun to admit casualities, but it is unclear yet if there are any fatalities.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 25, 2008 9:36 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZW20080317000007

Monday, Mar 17, 2008
(From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL)

By Gina Chon BAGHDAD -- Sky-high oil prices are pumping tens of billions of dollars into this country's coffers, reaping a windfall for a war-torn nation plagued by unpassable roads, dilapidated hospitals and crumbling schools.
Yet most of this desperately needed cash is languishing in the bank. The reason: Iraq's government is so ill-equipped to handle the basics of finance, it is having trouble spending the money.
In 2006, the Iraqi central government spent just 22% of its $6 billion capital budget, which is aimed at improving Iraq's infrastructure, while the oil ministry spent less than 3% of its reconstruction money.

In 2007, Iraq's own official expenditure reports show ministries had spent 7% of their $10 billion capital budget as of November; officials estimate the final figure will be at least 50%.

Baghdad's coffers are swelling: In three years, the country's foreign-exchange reserves have more than tripled, to over $22 billion. Iraq also has more than $8 billion in bank accounts in New York and Iraq reflecting unused funds from oil-export sales. This is in addition to unspent budget funds.

Why the logjam? To begin with, the country has no system for electronically transferring cash and few officials trained in basic budget procedures. Its handful of computers is frequently foiled by power outages.

Instead, many budget writers list expenditures and receipts by hand, on neatly lined columns drawn out with a ruler.

"This is my headache, my homework," groans Bayan Jabr, the country's finance minister, who says he stays up into the early morning signing approval documents for the purchase of simple items like computers.

Iraq's swelling surplus is intensifying the already enormous pressure on Baghdad's weak government. If officials can improve or restore basic services quickly, they may be able to convince Iraqis -- and international observers -- that the country is on the road to recovery. But if the delays continue, U.S. and Iraqi officials warn that desperate Iraqis may turn to crime or the insurgency to earn money, plunging the country back into a cycle of brutal violence.

"We need to move beyond security to create jobs and invest in our country, or we could move backwards," says Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih.

Pressure is also growing in Washington, where politicians are growing impatient at the mounting cost -- almost $47 billion spent thus far -- of rebuilding an oil-rich nation.

Last Tuesday, the Senate Appropriations Committee held a hearing on the waste of U.S. taxpayer money in Iraq. "The Iraqis have a budget surplus," then-U.S. Comptroller General David Walker said at the hearing. "One of the questions is, who should be paying."
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D., Mich.) and committee member John Warner (R., Va.) sent a letter to the Government Accountability Office on March 7 asking the agency to examine why U.S. taxpayer money has been "overwhelmingly" used to fund Iraq's reconstruction, "despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue."

In response, Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh issued a statement Tuesday saying Baghdad has worked hard to improve budget execution amid the armed strife and said the rate of spending would likely increase in 2008. Iraq will likely spend more on infrastructure in the second half of this year, he added, due to a projected boost in oil revenue.

Foreign governments are growing worried, in part because the spending paralysis exacerbates the nation's inability to cope with its many refugees. An estimated two million Iraqis have been displaced inside the country by war and sectarian violence, and the government hasn't been able to spend quickly for food, medicine and shelter, raising the prospect of a humanitarian crisis.

Iraq's spending woes are partly grounded in Saddam Hussein's authoritarian rule and his centrally controlled economy. Taif Sami, a 23-year veteran at the finance ministry and now assistant manager of the budget department, says making spending decisions under the former Iraqi leader was fairly simple.
Everything was determined by the dictator or his inner circle.

In the budget department itself, "nobody could say anything about the budget or object to it," Ms. Sami says of that time.

After the invasion, American officials briefly took control of most spending decisions. But after the U.S. relinquished power, political instability, infighting and horse-trading among the country's new political parties created rapid turnover in the finance department. Three different men have served as Iraq's chief finance minister since 2004.

Iraq's money-transfer system is archaic.
There are no ATMs and no nationwide system for electronically wiring cash. So, bricks of bills are disbursed across the country in trucks.

Once an expenditure is approved, it can take months for the cash to be released, as couriers shuttle paperwork between the country's planning and finance ministries.

Corruption -- already a big problem in Mr. Hussein's era -- turned into an epidemic after the invasion. To fight it, the government pushed through a flurry of new rules requiring elaborate checks and approvals, including layers of signatures and stamps from senior officials. But with all the new rules, paperwork often got lost or botched.
Officials didn't follow up.

Over the past two years, sectarian violence and the insurgency unraveled basic services, and unemployment ballooned. Yet while many in Baghdad and in the provinces receive only two hours of electricity a day,

Iraq's treasury was swelling with oil dollars. Oil revenue for 2007 is estimated at $60 billion. Iraq's 2008 budget is based on $57-a-barrel oil.
Recently, Iraq's benchmark crude, called "Basra Light," was changing hands at $94 a barrel.

In May 2006, the chief finance job was given to Mr. Jabr. A prominent Shiite politician, Mr. Jabr served a previous stint as interior minister that was marred by accusations that he led an agency which engaged in bloody sectarian violence against Sunnis. Mr. Jabr says the accusations are overblown. Confident and impeccably groomed, Mr. Jabr has won the trust of American officials, who are trying to help his cause by providing budget-execution training to government employees.

After seeing how badly Iraq's budget was managed in 2006, Mr. Jabr, Deputy Prime Minister Mr. Salih and Planning Minister Ali Baban decided to give bureaucrats more power over spending decisions. They raised the ceilings for procurement contracts that don't require finance-ministry approval. Iraqi officials also boosted the amount of cash sent directly to the provinces.

But lower-level bureaucrats, unaccustomed to wielding spending authority or worried about being held accountable if something goes wrong, still come to Mr. Jabr for a green light. And some critics question some local governments' spending priorities.
Baghdad municipal officials, for instance, have allocated funds for badly needed sewage-treatment facilities and health clinics. Yet the capital is also spending $113 million over a three-year period to pretty up its mangled sidewalks.

American mistakes have helped seize up the system, too. One of the U.S.'s most costly efforts to help the Iraqis with their spending habits -- an ambitious software program being developed by USAID, part of the State Department, and consulting firm BearingPoint -- has also gone awry. The project was halted last June, after four British security contractors and a consultant were kidnapped in a raid on the finance ministry the month before.

According to an October report by the U.S. Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, the program was also incompatible with separate financial-management systems being developed by the defense and interior ministries. Those two agencies were creating their systems under initiatives funded by the Pentagon. USAID says its system can adjust to other systems, but also says the Iraqi government didn't fully support the project.

In mid-January, the finance ministry, desperate for a computerized system, authorized the resumption of the troubled project. Three weeks ago, a video that aired on Arab television showed one of the kidnap victims, who said he and the other captors would be freed in exchange for Iraqi prisoners.

The U.S. already has spent almost $40 million on the currently mothballed program.
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
17-03-08 0417GMT

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 25, 2008 9:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

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The sale of oil imports exceeded five billion dollars last month

Baghdad - Iraq votes 24 / 03 / 2008 at 14:13:43

The Spokesperson of the Ministry of Oil, Monday, sales of crude oil amounted to 56 million and 100 thousand barrels during the month of February last a total value of $ 5 billion and 37 million dollars.

The Assem Jihad, in a statement to the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq) that "Iraq's oil exports from Basra through the ports of Basra and Khor al on the Arabian Gulf have reached 44 million and 700 thousand barrels a value of 3 billion and 990 million dollars."
He added: "The quantities exported from the northern fields through the Turkish port of Ceyhan 11 million and 400 thousand barrels a value of 47 million dollars."

The jihad that the purchase of Iraqi oil was over 20 large international companies of different nationalities including Asian, European as well as American companies.
Jihad did not disclose further details.

(http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 25, 2008 9:57 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and all,

The article on the open letter to Oprah by Ali Baghdadi is interesting. There are some threads of truth in it.

First, Former President Jimmy Carter did get attacked verbally for his writing of his book Palestine Peace Not Apartheid. Although, I have not read the book, I had seen Former President Jimmy Carter in very hair-stormie interviews being criticised for this book.

Second, "Many Pregnant Arab Women have lost their babies while waiting for clearance on their way to hospitals.". Unfortunately, this quote is true. I do not know how true the 550 checkpoints across most of the West Bank is though.

I have been receiving christian letters from fellow believers in the West Bank and they have talked about the harsh treatment of the Israelis on the checkpoints. Christians too, having babies and trying to get to hospitals are being held up at these checkpoints...placing their babies in danger. The Israeli soldiers do not discriminate... whether Arab, Moslem or Christian.

Another part of this letter is that Ali Baghdadi speaks of 72 percent of his land taken in 1948 and 28 percent of land taken in 1967. Of course, we all know that in 1948, the settling of Jews in Palestine (after the war with Germany) and in 1967, Israel was attacked from Arab nations (with Soviets behind the planning) as I have previously written about on the blog. And that the land was given back to arabs shortly after, or Jerusalem would be united in Israeli hands at this time.

It is very difficult to write about property rights. Israel will believe the land belongs to them--because of their ancestory. Arabs will believe last one on with deeds to land-- land belongs to them.

However, I will note that in Iraq, arabs violate this same arguement when evicting Christians from their homes-- the original people in land at the time of Jonah and Whale story in Ninevah. Yet, this is not an injustice to muslems or arabs.

Arab nations are also guilty of not allowing Christians to live in peace in their nations, nor of allowing Muslems to change their religion due to prosecutions (death threats, or an inactuality being killed). Former Prime Minister Thacker (of Britain) was criticized for not allowing an over pouring of Muslem churches in England with more arab, Islamic rights; when she replied that she would allow more churches/Islamic rights in Britain, when the islamists allow the same religious freedoms in their own countries. I think, this about settles the issue.

Extreme Islamists/Blacks want to kill Jews, Americans, White People and for what?. I think it is because people are different from them and they want to dominate the world (power). It is just an observation (at this time), it would appear that there is no tolerance in Islamic countries for other religions but their own and they want to have the privilege of enslaving the rest of us to this same religion. No thank you.

On Barack's mainstream christian religion of "liberation theology" he is dead wrong (and it would appear that this church is part of extremist black church). Sara's quotes of the bible are dead on. Christian faith does not recognize blacks, whites, bond or free but that everyone who comes to accept Jesus as Lord, Savior and King are bond slaves to the Christ. In other words, Christians have no rights when it comes to our Lord's claims on ours lives. Muslems, however, are strong to point out their rights!!

I strongly disagree that Barach Obama's church is from mainstream christianity. In point of fact, I wonder if it is christianity at all.

Also, I do not know who Arnold Toynbee is. However, Ali Baghdadi claims that this author is "world renowned historian who is quoted as saying "that what the zionist Jews did to Palestinians is worst than what the nazis did to Jews, because as he stated, Jews should have learned from their tragic experience." I find this statement irresponsible by Toynbee, if he said it. Any act of violence is condemned by God and to inflame violence is irresponsible.

Also, is this Ali Baghdadi the same the leader in Iraq that the insurgency was looking for so long?. It is strange that this name is used again.

Although, I did find it sad his (Ali Baghdadi) recalling of hiding near the tomb of Lazarus in the 1948 carpet bombing of this area. He would be at least in his 60's by now. I am hoping and praying that Ali Baghdadi will find the real Christ (and mainstream christianity) that teaches real peace.

Laura Parker

To change the subject aw

-- March 25, 2008 1:11 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I was going to write to change the subject in last post, but then I decided to write separately on my next question due to the length of my last post.

What is happening in Basra?. The last article on the Iraqi Government crack down on Sadr's militias. Anyone know?. Is it about oil and who controls it?.

Laura Parker

-- March 25, 2008 1:20 PM


Sara wrote:

Now that the faked elections in Iran are over.. they are turning their attention to Iraq.. and instructing their puppet groups under Sadr to stir up trouble..

The statement: "The cleric recently told his followers that the cease-fire remains in effect but that they were free to defend themselves against attacks" was just an excuse for attack, not defense, as the spokesman says here, quote:

Al-Sadr's headquarters in Najaf also ordered field commanders with his Mahdi Army militia to go on maximum alert and prepare "to strike the occupiers" — a term used to describe U.S. forces — and their Iraqi allies, a militia officer said.

Striking is attack.. not defense, obviously.

Note these "peaceful demonstrations" are designed to cripple all commerce and education by closing stores and schools. QUOTE: Lawmakers from al-Sadr's movement announced in a Baghdad press conference that a general strike campaign — which began in selected neighborhoods of the capital and included the closure of businesses and schools — was being expanded nationwide.

This is a question of who is to control the country.. the elected leaders or Sadrist militiamen (and thus, Iran through them). QUOTE: In Basra, Iraqi soldiers and police battled Mahdi fighters for control of key neighborhoods in Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad.

What need is there for Iran to invade Iraq directly if they can just supply the weapons and training to Sadr's militiamen to foment violence on the streets?

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Iraqi Troops, Militias Clash in Basra
Iraqi Security Forces Clash With Militias in Iraq's Southern Oil Port of Basra
By RYAN LENZ Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD Mar 25, 2008 (AP)

Iraqi forces clashed with Shiite militiamen Tuesday in the southern oil port of Basra and rockets rained down on the U.S.-protected Green Zone in Baghdad as followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr expanded a nationwide "backlash" against government crackdowns.

The U.S. Embassy said no deaths or serious casualties were reported in the Green Zone attacks — the second major barrage this week launched from Shiite areas. Two rockets landed on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's compound, but did not explode, an Iraqi government security official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to disclose the information.

Al-Maliki was in Basra, where he is supervising the operation against the Shiite militia fighters. At least 25 people were killed in the Basra fighting, officials said.

The violence marked a stunning escalation in the confrontation between the Shiite-run government and al-Sadr's forces, who have complained about the recent arrests of hundreds of backers.

The cleric recently told his followers that the cease-fire remains in effect but that they were free to defend themselves against attacks.

Al-Sadr's headquarters in Najaf also ordered field commanders with his Mahdi Army militia to go on maximum alert and prepare "to strike the occupiers" — a term used to describe U.S. forces — and their Iraqi allies, a militia officer said. He declined to be identified because he wasn't supposed to release the information.

More than 2,000 supporters of al-Sadr danced through the streets with olive branches and copies of the Quran during demonstrations in Najaf, 100 miles south of Baghdad. Similar protests were held earlier in the day in Baghdad.

Lawmakers from al-Sadr's movement announced in a Baghdad press conference that a general strike campaign — which began in selected neighborhoods of the capital and included the closure of businesses and schools — was being expanded nationwide.

Stores and schools also were closed in several other predominantly Shiite neighborhoods in the capital, and armed Mahdi Army members were seen patrolling the streets in some Shiite neighborhoods of the capital.

In Basra, Iraqi soldiers and police battled Mahdi fighters for control of key neighborhoods in Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad. The fighting erupted a day after al-Maliki flew there and announced the security crackdown against the militias.

AP Television News video showed smoke from explosions rising over the city and Iraqi soldiers exchanging gunfire with militia members.

Curfews were also imposed in the Shiite cities of Kut, where a large number of Mahdi Army gunmen were seen deploying on the streets, and Nasiriyah.

In Baghdad, suspected Mahdi Army gunmen exchanged gunfire with security guards of the rival Shiite Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council in Sadr City, police said.

The rising tension led many people in Shiite neighborhoods to stay at home rather than venture into contested streets.

Col. Karim al-Zaidi, spokesman for the Iraq military, said security forces were encountering stiff resistance from Mahdi Army gunmen in the city.

The U.S. military said Tuesday that five suspected militants were killed in Basra while attempting to place a roadside bomb. Ten others were injured after being spotted conducting suspicious activity, the statement said.

British troops remained at their base at the airport outside Basra and were not involved in the ground fighting Tuesday, according to the British Ministry of Defense.

But three British jets provided aerial surveillance for the Iraqi forces, said Maj. Tom Holloway, a military spokesman in Basra.

He said the British jets have not dropped any bombs because the Iraqi forces "haven't yet asked."

U.S. officials have insisted they are not going after Sadrists who respect the cease-fire. Instead, the Americans are targeting rogue elements, known as "special groups," that the military believes have ties to Iran. Tehran denies that it is fueling the violence.

The U.S. military blamed Iranian-backed Shiite militia factions for a spate of rocket attacks that struck the Green Zone and surrounding areas on Monday.

The Sadrists allege that rival militia factions have infiltrated the security forces and are targeting the movement to gain advantage in provincial elections expected this fall.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4518257

-- March 25, 2008 1:43 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

Thanks for news item on Sadr and Basra.

Laura Parker

-- March 25, 2008 2:50 PM


Sara wrote:

You are welcome, Laura.

Thanks to everyone lately that has been adding bits and pieces..
and thanks, Rob N, for your good solid research on a lot of economic news.
Muchly appreciated. :)

I found an interesting piece which I thought valuable. President Bush took good advice when he chose to go with the surge.. but did you know whose advice it was he was taking?

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McCain Says US Succeeding in Iraq
By LIZ SIDOTI Associated Press Writer
CHULA VISTA, Calif. Mar 25, 2008 (AP)

Fresh off his eighth Iraq visit, Sen. John McCain declared Monday that "we are succeeding" and said he wouldn't change course.

To underscore his view of the stakes in Iraq, the certain Republican presidential nominee twice referenced a recent audio tape from Osama bin Laden in which the al-Qaida leader urged followers to join the al-Qaida fight in Iraq and called the country "the greatest opportunity and the biggest task."

"For the first time, I have seen Osama bin Laden and General (David) Petraeus in agreement, and, that is, a central battleground in the battle against al-Qaida is in Iraq today. And that's what bin Laden was saying and that's what General Petraeus is saying and that's what I'm saying," McCain said.

"And my Democrat opponents who want to pull out of Iraq refuse to understand what's being said and what's happening — and that is the central battleground is Iraq in this struggle against radical Islamic extremism," he added. McCain also said Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton were naive and "dead wrong" to want to withdraw troops.

"We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted.

McCain told reporters: "I don't think I would change the strategy now unless General Petraeus recommended it. I think he's trusted by the American people, the President and by me. And General Petraeus again showed me facts on the ground where the surge is succeeding."

"I've commented on hundreds of occasions of the sacrifice the great and brave young Americans have made in Iraq and elsewhere in the world in the struggle against radical Islamic extremism," McCain told reporters afterward. He said a bracelet he always wears with the name of Matthew Stanley, who was killed in Iraq, is a symbol not just of his sacrifice but also of Stanley's 4,000 fallen comrades.

"My thoughts and my prayers go out to those families every day," McCain added.

Left unsaid during the event was the fact that 2007 was the war's deadliest year with 901 American troop deaths. That was when Bush took McCain's advice and sent thousands more U.S. troops to Iraq to quell violence in Baghdad. McCain long had called for such a strategy shift, and he effectively linked his presidential candidacy to the war last year even as public support for it plummeted.

"I'm not painting to you the most rosy scenario but I am telling you, compared to a year ago, before we started this surge, and with this great general, one of the great generals in American history, General David Petraeus, that we are succeeding in Iraq," McCain told his audience.

Democrats took issue with his remarks and cast his candidacy as a repeat of President Bush's tenure, asking if he was offering the war-weary public any different path forward in Iraq than Bush.

"I'm offering them the record of having objected strenuously to a failed strategy for nearly four years. That I argued against and fought against and said that the secretary of defense of my own party, and my own president, I had no confidence in. That's how far I went in advocating the new strategy that is succeeding," McCain told reporters.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory?id=4517830

Sounds like Commander-in-chief material during a time of war to me..

-- March 25, 2008 4:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura, you asked, "is this Ali Baghdadi the same the leader in Iraq that the insurgency was looking for so long?. It is strange that this name is used again."

I thought the same thing! Maybe it is a pen name people use when they don't wish to be known by their real name. It can be used for protecting their identities or for making false allegations, as was the case with the Iraqi person by the same name.

I did put the entire article on here and to be fair, I thought the other side of the story and that view should be given. Here is a ten minute presentation which gives the Israeli view and perspective of the situation. I feel both views should be taken into account, so you can see and understand where both groups are coming from and where their opinions differ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09pmTh64vD8&eurl=http://songdongnigh.blogspot.com/

The title of the piece is "What Really Happened in the Middle East" and it is done by the people who publish FrontPage Magazine, based on a pamphlet by David Horowitz. It is truly worth looking at and I highly recommend it to the board. It is a perspective I feel all of us should take into account when dealing with the Middle East.

Thank you for your Christian perspective and insight concerning both the Arabs and Jews as they have acted toward our fellow Christian believers, Laura. I appreciate it as it shows us how far certain adherents of religious views have to go to reach the point of respecting human rights and freedoms. One day, we will get to the point where each religion will allow the others to worship as they wish to do, and each religion will respect the others without trying to force their views upon the other with the edge of a sword. THEN is when we will see men beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.. so that the nations will "learn war no more".

Mic 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Mic 4:3 And He shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Mic 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts has spoken it.
Mic 4:5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.

I like this Scripture because it says that one day ALL MEN will walk "in the name of his god" - whatever god they wish to serve - and WE will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever. There will come a day of peace, where "none shall make them afraid" and each serves according to conscience. This bringing of freedom to Iraq to discuss religion and choose freely is a step toward this reality which one day will be.

Then - in that day - there will be no imposition of religious beliefs, and there will be true peace. Men will be free to discuss and choose freely their religious beliefs without trying to eliminate each other's views and religions off the face of the earth. Intolerance will be wiped out - and that will be a true time of peace where there is no longer any need for war. When ALL of mankind comes to the point of embracing freedom of religion as a fundamental human right, we will have "every man under his vine and under his fig tree".. each living his life free to follow his own dreams.. without any fear from those trying to impose their conflicting ideologies upon them. I pray it will not take much bloodshed to get to that point..

Sara.

-- March 25, 2008 7:44 PM


Sara wrote:

Concerning conflicting religious and ideological viewpoints..

One day, all religions and ideologies on earth will no longer learn war or embrace violence,
but will instead embrace the attitude of Voltaire, paraphrased as, QUOTE:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

- These words were first used by Hall, writing under the pseudonym of Stephen G. Tallentyre in The Friends of Voltaire (1906). They were not a quote, but a paraphrase of Voltaire's attitudes, based on his Essay on Tolerance where he asserts: "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too". Its ultimate origin may lie in a letter to M. le Riche (February 6, 1770): "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

Ultimately, we do not object to someone holding their convictions strongly.. we object to them imposing that view upon us or saying we have no right to our own convictions and trying to take them away by law or by taking our lives. We all wish the peace which comes from tolerance of differing thoughts and views which is the basis of ideological and religious freedom, and what almost all of humanity is seeking.

Sara.

-- March 25, 2008 8:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq's 'final showdown' with militia men
By Damien McElroy and Thomas Harding
Last Updated: 2:15am GMT 26/03/2008

Iraq is facing the gravest challenge to its fragile security in more than a year. In Baghdad, rockets rained down on the diplomatic Green Zone while fighting was reported in Sadr City, the huge district that is the cleric's stronghold in the capital.

At least 25 people were killed in fighting in the southern city after the Iraqi army raided districts that are home to militiamen loyal to Sadr.

Named Saulat al-Fursan, or Charge of the Knights, the Basra operation marks a major gamble for Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister of Iraq's Shi'ite-led government, who arrived in the city on Monday to oversee its execution.

Extra troops were drafted into the city last week to reinforce the 9,000-strong 14th Infantry Division, which has controlled the city since Britain withdrew from Basra Palace last year.

"This is going to be a major battle which will be the final showdown between the army and the militias to fight over who is to control southern Iraq," a senior defence source told The Daily Telegraph. "This will be the big test for the Iraqi 14th Division but we believe they have the capability to emerge as the winners."

The Iraqi army cordoned off Basra late on Monday and troops rolled in early yesterday.

Heavy exchanges of artillery and gunfire were reported. "Bullets are coming from everywhere and we can hear rocket explosions," said one Basra resident.

If the Iraqi forces crumble then three British battle groups - each of about 650 men armed with Challenger 2 tanks and Warrior armoured vehicles - are on hand to re-enter the city six months after withdrawing last September.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/26/wiraq126.xml

-- March 26, 2008 12:54 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Sometimes I wonder on what side Al-Malaki is on.
____________________________________________________________
PM issues statement regarding operations in Basra 26/03/2008 11:14:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki ordered not to hound the gunmen in Basra who surrender to the police. The PM called in a statement Wednesday "those who were misled to fight the security forces"
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:38 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Taliban warn of new spring offensive

General 3/26/2008 3:17:00 PM



KABUL, March 26 (KUNA) -- Taliban on Wednesday again warned of their much hyped spring offensive against the Afghan and foreign troops in the war-battered country in the coming few months.
The statement by Taliban top leader Mullah Biradar said the militants would give tough time to the foreign and Afghan troops during the upcoming spring.
The statement was issued just a day after a press release by the Afghan Defence Ministry which said that that its troops were fully prepared to meet with any eventuality in the country.
Warning the Afghans working with the government or the foreign troops, the statement said their struggle would go on till the toppling of government of President Hamid Karzai.
Last year too, the Taliban had warned of their spring offensive; however, nothing as such was happened and the year passes although there was some increase in roadside bomb and suicide attacks.
Instead of the Taliban spring offensive in 2007, the NATO forces launched their operation and dislodged the militants from the districts of Panjwayee and Zherai in Kandahar province of Afghanistan. According to NATO officials, nearly 1,500 Taliban were killed in the offensive.
According to unofficial figures, some 6,000 people, both civilians, military and police and Taliban militants were killed in incidents of violence in different parts of Afghanistan last year.
A day earlier, the Afghan Defence Ministry had said that their forces were stronger than before and were fully prepared to meet any eventuality from the Taliban side.
Meanwhile, a policeman was killed and another two wounded in a landmine explosion in southern Afghanistan on Wednesday.
The blast happened in the southern province of Helmand. Police chief of the province Brig. Gen. Mohammad Hussain Andiwal told KUNA over the telephone that the soldiers were on routine patrol when their vehicle stepped on a roadside bomb in Grishk district of the province.
Claiming responsibility for the attack, purported Taliban spokesman Qari Yousaf Ahmadi said six policemen were killed in the roadside bomb blast. (end) gk.bz.
KUNA 261517 Mar 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:42 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

BAGHDAD, March 25 (KUNA) -- Iraqi operation command said on Tuesday that it has imposed a curfew in Sadr city in Baghdad starting at 7:00 p.m. local time and would be effective til 6:00 a.m. on Wednesday.
Major General Qassem Al-Mosawi from the Iraqi police said the curfew would be imposed on all types of vehicles and people, adding that it comes as a result of tensions in Sadr city and burning of political parties' offices.
Meanwhile, Iraqi security forces have also imposed a curfew in the three southern cities of Karbala, Diwaniya, Babel, in addition to Al-Naseriya, Kout, and Samawah amid intense military operations against the armed Sadr militia in the main southern city of Basra.
Security tensions which spread to several cities forced security authorities to impose a curfew to start in Karbala at 9:00 p.m. local time on vehicles and people til Wednesday morning, according to Iraqi police director Major General Shaker Jawdat.
Elsewhere, Iraqi security sources said after heavy clashes between government forces and armed militias, Iraqi authorities imposed curfew in towns surrounding Basra city and nearby provinces.
An Iraqi security source said Al-Samawah city has imposed a full curfew in the city which began at 3:00 p.m. (end) mhg.mb KUNA 260007 Mar 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:44 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi PM accuses regional powers for escalation in Basra city

Military and Security 3/26/2008 12:56:00 AM



BAGHDAD, March 25 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki said on Tuesday that military operations in Basra sent a clear message to regional powers who attempt to escalate tension in the southern city of Basra and nearby provinces.
Iraqi interior ministry said in a statement that Al-Maliki held a security meeting with security commanders after arriving in Basra where he was leading efforts to curb the armed militias.
The statement noted that the government was keen on bring security, stability, and rule of law in the city being targeted through instability and security.
"Our determination is big on making such operation a success," Al-Maliki said.
Earlier on, Iraqi security forces fought fierce gun battles with Shiite militias in Basra in a major operation aimed at bringing the southern oil city under government control.
The operation targeted six districts in central and northern Basra where the Mehdi Army militia of Shiite cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr has a strong presence.
The Iraqi Prime Minister stressed importance on following legal procedures in holding the accomplices of violence and criminal activities responsible for their actions, the statement said.
Maliki also ensured that procedures fall under preserving human rights with all who demonstrated and contributed to the unrest, concluded the statement. (end) ahh.mb KUNA 260056 Mar 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

55 Dead in Basra, Baghdad Fighting
Associated Press | March 26, 2008
BAGHDAD - At least 55 people have died in two days of fighting between Shiite militias and U.S.-Iraqi forces in Baghdad and the southern city of Basra, officials said March 25. Some 300 people were reported wounded in the clashes, which present the gravest challenge to the Iraqi government in months.

The biggest toll was in Basra, the oil-rich, Shiite-majority city where an Iraqi military spokesman said 40 people were killed and 200 wounded. Col. Karim al-Zaidi did not say how many were militiamen, Iraqi soldiers or civilians caught up in the fighting.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has taken personal charge of the effort to rid Basra of militias, some of whom have ties to nearby Iran. Followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have been fighting U.S. and Iraqi forces in Baghdad and other cities in reaction to the Basra crackdown.

According to an Iraqi Interior Ministry official, at least 15 people were killed and 100 wounded in clashes in Baghdad's Sadr City district. The ministry official spoke on condition of anonymity because of operational security. A breakdown of who was killed was not given.

The burgeoning crisis - part of an intense power struggle among Shiite political factions - has major implications for the United States. An escalation could unravel the cease-fire which al-Sadr proclaimed last August. A resumption of fighting by his militia could kill more U.S. soldiers and threaten - at least in the short run - the security gains Washington has hailed as a sign that Iraq is on the road to recovery.

The confrontation will also test the skill and resolve of Iraq's Shiite-led government in dealing with Shiite militias, with whom the national leadership had maintained close ties.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:47 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

A Taste of Baghdad
Army News Service | Tim Hipps | March 26, 2008
FORT BELVOIR, Va. - The cast and crew of the U.S. Army Soldier Show will emphasize their working motto of "entertainment for the Soldier, by the Soldier" in a simulated deployed setting to celebrate the show's 25th anniversary, which will open April 11 at Belvor's Wallace Theater.

"The impression we want the audience to get is that they've been transported to the Middle East, to a combat area," Soldier Show director Tim Higdon said.

The stage floor will be tan to simulate sand and the façade will be covered with desert camouflage nets and faux sandbags to simulate a field environment in Iraq or Afghanistan. Army Combat Uniform seatback covers will extend the setting throughout the entire auditorium.

A louvered wall stage backdrop that features a desert sunset with signs bearing the names of Army camps and Forward Operating Base locations will help make the set seem real, along with the sounds of a field environment: trucks bypassing, helicopters taking off and buzzing overhead, off-duty Soldiers at play, cadence calling, etc.

"The printed program has a smart book or field manual layout, which goes back to the Soldier aspect of the show's mission," Higdon said. "The goal is to give the sense that we are watching the Soldiers return from a mission, who then take the time to put on a show for the audience."

In the end, troops will be donning their battle gear as they exit the stage "to drive home that they start the show as Soldiers and they leave the show the same way, as Soldiers - to do what their mission in life is," said Higdon, a 1988 Soldier Show performer who this year replaced Victor Hurtado in the director's chair. "Since we're not taking the show to Baghdad, we're bringing Baghdad to the show."

Nearly half of the cast and crew already have deployed during the War on Terror, so they know the drill. Just getting an opportunity to entertain Soldiers and military Families during the seven-month tour will fulfill a lifelong dream for most of them.

The latest in video and light technologies will add to the production. Two 65-inch plasma displays will be suspended from speaker clusters that will play a loop of sponsor video commercials, Soldier Show cast and crew interviews, along with Family, Morale, Welfare and Recreation Command logos and promos before the show.

During the show, the video screens will add visual elements to the performances. For example, the cast will honor the modern era of the show's 25th anniversary with a World War II tune: "This is the Army, Mr. Jones," which was written in 1942 by Soldier Show founder Irving Berlin for "This is the Army." During that number, a video montage of photographs, posters and video clips will chronicle a quarter century of Soldier Shows.

"We touch on the 25 years, but the show isn't focused on that," Higdon said. "The show is still relevant to today's Soldier and Family members in the communities. We have some fun with period pieces, as we always do, but there's no conscious effort to really drive home '25 years.' It's really more about the Soldier and the environment they serve in today."

The show will, however, pay tribute to the coincidental 25th anniversary of Michael Jackson's "Thriller," the best-selling album of all-time on Billboard's charts. As the song begins, a Soldier-performer on guard duty scans the audience with a Night Vision camera and spectators can see themselves on positive screens. With the use of black lights and colored costumes, the Night-Vision effect will spill onto the stage.

"So it's as if the audience is watching this number in Night Vision," Higdon explained. "And we've 'cartoonized' the original Michael Jackson video that will be shown on the plasma screens while we're doing it live on stage. It will be a pretty big production number.

"We will have a well-balanced mix of everything," Higdon said. "There will definitely be something for everybody - presented as if Soldiers had to do it themselves with what they had available. We'll still have nice gowns and all that stuff, but things will transition to help make it feel like it is set in the field. For instance, we're going to have a song done in a canteen-like arena."

From the opening montage to the finale, visual and song elements will focus on the strength of our Soldiers, tying into "Army Strong."

"We never want the audience to forget that these aren't professional singers and dancers, that they're Soldiers," Higdon said.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 9:51 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

It would appear that a major confrontation is brewing between Sadr's militias and the Iranians. According to Major Abdul Jalil Khalaf police commander of Basra area (and now placed under suspension on Monday)--he says that there are 43 Shiite armed militias backed by Iran in the city of Basra. He also commented that most of Iraq's oil is exported from Basra (around 80 percent from some of the sources from what I remember).

According to police chief Khalaf estimated that the most powerful of the militias is Mahdi Army Militia and that they have between 40-60 thousand armed men and it also has medium to heavy weapons as guns, anti-tank missiles and aircraft. I was surprized by the aircraft part! Where did they get aircraft as if I don't know?.

In an article entitled In Iranian-Backed Shiite Militas Active in Basra, Say Police by Basil Adas 3/26/08--"Americans gave Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Al Maliki, a brief period to control Basra and defeat the militias or the american forces would occupy the city," a high ranking Iraqi officer in the Ministry of Defense, who did not want to disclose his name said.

Al-Maliki and the Shiite Coalition led by Abdul Aziz Al Hakim told Americans that their presence in Basra is a serious development because they will face Iranians directly... the Iraqi government does not want a confrontation between the two sides," he said.

In another article, we learn that american troops surrounded the city of Sadr and placed a curfew on it on Tuesday and through night into Wednesday. This is starting to sound like to me that the americans are wanting to get this fight on while they have the combat forces there to take on other enemies inside of Iraq. The american's in my opinion cannot afford to let the militias control Basra as the main place to withdraw troops and also as the city that does most of Iraq's oil business.

I just thought I would let everyone know.

Laura Parker

-- March 26, 2008 11:47 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

That first sentence should read between the militias, Iranians and Iraqi troops and American troops. That is why this is important!

Laura Parker

-- March 26, 2008 11:49 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Let me take another stab at the above information. The Madhi militia armies and Iranians are in Basra. The police chief is saying that he estimates they have 43 shiiti militias with between 30-60 thousand members in them. Iraqi PM Nuri Al-Maliki was told that if the Iraqi army cannot get control of Basra by the American forces in a short period of time, that american forces would occupy Basra. The Iraqi government does not want the americans to do this because the american forces would face the Iranians face to face.

In my opinion, they would be dead ducks!! The current occupiers would probably set fire to oil wells during the battle is my guess. But when it was all over, I think our soldiers would have control of this city.

Due to Iraqi objections to america getting involved in Basra, Maliki went to Basra to try and get control of the city with Iraqi forces.

We will have to wait and see how successful they are.

Laura Parker

-- March 26, 2008 1:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Worth noting as this shows Saddam was a threat to Western targets..
AND the report, QUOTE:

"does detail the former Iraq dictator's support for Middle Eastern terror groups, including those linked to Al Qaeda"

So.. exactly..
how can anyone maintain that Saddam was no threat when he supported terrorists, including those linked to Al Qaeda?
Not to mention the fact that the critics insisted there was "no link" to Al Qaeda and this demonstrates THERE WAS A LINK.

How direct the link was does not matter..
Saddam's past demonstrated he could and would have used all at his disposal to carry out his commands,
and this shows they were unafraid to target and execute operations within the West.

In light of 911, we asked ourselves "How long until another attack?" And, "Who would be behind it?"
Saddam does not look the innocent in this scenerio as he was ALREADY targeting in the West (see below).
And do note they do not elaborate when they use the PLURAL form of ASSASSINATIONS and BOMBINGS...
showing it was not just one (which they explain) but MANY. Also note the planning of OPERATIONS.. not one, many.
QUOTE: (The) Fedayeen's orders were to carry out assassinations and bombings in London..

Preemptive action was prudent and necessary.
We were sitting ducks and took the fight to the enemy rather than waiting for him to come to us.
After 911 it was rational, logical and completely defensible.. except to Code Pink and their kind.
But the US electorate didn't put Code Pink in the President's office to protect them.. did they?

Sara.

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Report: Saddam Hussein’s Son Plotted London Assassination Attack
Sunday, March 23, 2008

Saddam Hussein's son Uday planned to carry out an attack in London, England to assassinate the leader of an Iraqi opposition group in April 2000, it is being reported.

According to the U.K.'s Times of London newspaper, a new Pentagon study based on documents seized during the Iraq war reveal an aborted plot by Uday Hussein's elite paramilitary group — the Fedayeen — to kill London-based Ahmed Chalabi, head of the Iraqi National Congress.

Click here to read the Pentagon report.

Documents show that Fedayeen's orders were to carry out assassinations and bombings in London, the Times reported.

While the study showed no link between Saddam Hussein's regime and Al Qaeda, it does detail the former Iraq dictator's support for Middle Eastern terror groups, including those linked to Al Qaeda.

Also in the report are memos showing Uday ordered officials to “start planning special operations in the centres of the traitors’ symbols in the fields of London / Iran / self-ruled areas [Kurdish northern Iraq]”, it was reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340745,00.html

-- March 26, 2008 1:09 PM


Sara wrote:

Report Cites Increase in Attacks on Military Recruiting Centers
Wednesday, March 26, 2008
By Melissa Underwood

Shattered windows and bomb scares are growing threats for recruiters working to find young men and women to join the U.S. military, according to a new report that claims attacks on military recruiting stations are on the rise.

The report, issued by a not-for-profit group that supports members of the military, calls the incidents — including the spray-painting of graffiti — "attacks," and claims there have been more than 50 since March 2003.

"The peace protesters are not peaceful," said Catherine Moy, executive director of Move America Forward, which released the report. "They are violent. They are causing havoc in an illegal manner on recruiting offices across the United States."

On March 6, a hooded bicyclist was captured on video pedaling away from the military recruiting station in New York's Times Square after a small homemade explosive damaged the facade of America's busiest recruiting center.

Milwaukee and Times Square are among the incidents listed in Move America Forward's report, which documents protests, broken windows, graffiti, bombs and other disturbances among the attacks.

"We hope that people will see the report and see that this is not just one or two incidents," Moy said. "They are attacking these institutions to try to stop the war even as we are winning the war."

Moy continued: "These people will stop at nothing."

"We understand that we're high visibility and we have to take appropriate security measures," said S. Douglas Smith, spokesman for the U.S. Army Recruiting Command Headquarters in Fort Knox, Ky.

If the goal of vandalizing or protesting at a recruiting station is to hurt recruitment efforts, it's not working, Smith said.

"We're not at all anxious about this. Of course, we don't enjoy having instances, but it's not having a negative impact on recruiting," he said.

"Ever since we've been in a wartime environment, we have been very security-conscious, just like the rest of the country," Smith said.

When an incident disrupts operations at a recruiting center, recruiters can continue their work from mobile locations, Smith said, noting that recruiters were back on duty within 24 hours following the explosion at the Times Square center.

Code Pink members, who spoke out against the explosion in Times Square, are working to get a zoning initiative on the November ballot that would help close the Berkeley center by banning it from being near schools.

In January, the Berkeley City Council voted to send a message to the Marines that they're not welcome in the city. It also voted to give Code Pink its own parking spot outside the recruiting center, which allows a group member to protest during the center's office hours.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341695,00.html

-- March 26, 2008 1:46 PM


Sara wrote:

Gallup Poll: Many Democrats Ready to Vote McCain if Their First Choice Doesn’t Make It to November
by FOXNews.com
Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Many Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters are ready to spurn the Democratic party and vote for John McCain in November if their candidate doesn’t win the presidential nomination, according to a new poll out Wednesday.

And a second poll out Wednesday shows most voters — including 85 percent of Democrats — believe there’s a chance that the battle between Clinton and Obama will not be resolved before the August convention.

Among people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters, 28 percent said they would vote for McCain if Obama is his opponent, the March 7-22 Gallup Poll Daily election tracking survey found.

The same poll found that 19 percent of Obama supporters would switch sides and cast ballots for McCain if Clinton is the Democratic candidate.

The survey interviewed 6,657 Democratic voters nationwide and had a margin of error of 2 percent.

The Rasmussen poll (March 24-25, 800 likely voters, +/- 4 percentage points) also found that there’s equal dislike on either side of the Democratic race for the rival candidate: 22 percent of both Clinton and Obama supporters said they believe the other candidate should drop out of the race.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/26/gallup-poll-shows-many-democratic-voters-ready-to-vote-mccain-if-their-first-choice-doesnt-make-it-to-november/

-- March 26, 2008 1:53 PM


Sara wrote:

"As long as there is a will to do the right thing and people are willing to sacrifice for success, the world will be a safer and better place even if those saved don’t appreciate it." - quote from below article.

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In a just world America would be cheered
By Vincent Gioia
MichNews.com
Mar 24, 2008

In a just world the American successful effort to topple brutish dictator Saddam Hussein and his even more evil sons would have been met with cheers around the world, and especially in Iraq and the United States. But the world does not sensibly react to momentous efforts to secure freedom so what we find is ingratitude in the world, including in Iraq, and domestic political maneuvering for political power.

Five years after defeat of an Iraqi dictatorship famous for rape rooms, unconscionable torture and support of terrorists, the local and foreign press ignore the achievements and focus on the errors, of which there are many. But even an imperfect effort should be praised, not scorned, when the results are measured in lives saved and horrors avoided. The "balance sheet" may not be fair in terms of lost American lives and wounded against the gains brave men and women achieved, but the same critics could also have said the same thing about the effort to destroy the Nazi regime and topple Adolph Hitler. As long as there is a will to do the right thing and people are willing to sacrifice for success, the world will be a safer and better place even if those saved don’t appreciate it.

However, focusing on the losses in Iraq fails to recognize the significant achievements and improvements in the lives of the Iraqi people. True, the followers of Arab Nazism have thwarted every effort to succeed, nonetheless Americans and their few allies have much to be proud of in terms of improvement in daily Iraqi life in addition to the amazing gift of freedom from the horrors of the Saddam reign of terror.

For example; before the Americans "landed" there were 0.8 million telephone land lines and no cell phones, now there is 1.1 million land lines and 10 million plus cell phones; before there 4 to 8 nationwide hours per day of electricity, now there is 9 to 10; pre war there were 12.9 million people with potable water, now there are 20.4 million; there were 6.2 million with sewage systems, now there are 11.3 million. (Sources: DOD, Brookings Institution, AP News Research Center and Special Inspector general for Iraq.) Huge numbers of schools and hospitals have been built and equipped by America after the war and Iraqi people are free to use them without fear of government selection and oppression. All-in-all this is not a bad track record for the "invaders".

What about the claims of enormous loss of Iraqi and American lives? Well, statistics show that 37,912 Iraqis (as of March 11, 2008) have lost their life, not the hundreds of thousands anti-war zealots allege. There have been 3,987 Americans killed and 29,314 wounded (as of March 14, 2008). There have actually been more U.S. contractors killed, 4,876 (through 2007), than the military (so much for the unfair criticism of Blackwater and other security providers).

And what about the cost of the Iraq war; various estimates by critics range as high as $2 trillion. But according to a recent Chicago Tribune article by Liz Sly, U.S. war costs are said to be, in billions of dollars: $49 in 2003, $88 in 2004, $60 in 2005, $95 in 2006, $122 in 2007 and $113 in 2008, for a total of $527 billion. Now this isn’t chump change but it is a long way from the trillions of dollars anti-war activists would like us to believe.

So what is the situation for the people in Iraq now; many shopping areas have sprung back to life as security has improved, many Iraqi tribal leaders have joined Americans in fighting al-Qaeda and the Iraqi army has been shouldering more of the load against terrorists.

Critics of the war still echo loudly the refrain that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction so the Iraqi war was a bogus enterprise by George Bush for oil, even though little or no Iraqi oil makes its way to the US. Forgotten in the calumny is that the entire world including Democrats now disclaiming the idea and Bill Clinton, were of the belief that Iraqi WMD were a world threat. The United Nations issued numerous resolutions based on the same premise. But when the United States acted on that belief, all hell broke loose; not at the time of course but on Monday morning after the game was ended. Though there is no evidence of nuclear weapons, who can legitimately say that Iraq did not possess chemical and biological weapons after they were used against Saddam’s own people?

What about the al-Qaeda connection and Saddam Hussein? Forget that Saddam paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers; forget that Saddam financed terror operations against the west; but was there a tie to al-Qaeda?

In a recent column, Ken Timmerman has addressed the claim that there was no connection with al-Qaeda,
QUOTE:

"A much-publicized report released by the Pentagon last week details the extensive ties between the regime of Saddam Hussein and a wide variety of international terrorist organizations, including Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda."

"Despite their incompatible long-term goals, many terrorist movements and Saddam found a common enemy in the United States," the report’s authors at the Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA) state. But instead of reporting on this conclusion, most of the media accounts have focused on a single sentence that appears in the executive summary, stating that the report’s authors found ‘no smoking gun’ or ‘direct connection’ between Saddam’s Iraq and al-Qaeda."

Another source involved in the report told Newsmax that one reason some documents were not included in the analysis was because of the sheer mass of material available — more than 600,000 documents, in all." (end quote)

Unfortunately the American people are not regularly informed about accomplishments in Iraq and when they are, accomplishments are minimized and negative elements wherever found are made part of the story so that the public will not get the idea Iraq war critics are wrong. The goal of the leftist media is not to "report" the news, but to support a political agenda. This may not be the first time that’s happened, but it is a dangerous practice when the lives of courageous men and women are at stake.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19769.shtml

-- March 26, 2008 2:39 PM


Sara wrote:

Intriguing.. any thoughts on this one, board?

Sara.

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OBAMA'S MUSLIM JESUS, THE PROPHET
By J. Grant Swank, Jr.
MichNews.com
Mar 26, 2008

America Talks reports that Barack Obama was reared as an Islamic, though Obama discounts that, and understandably so now that he is seeking the US presidency.

Nevertheless, researchers have revealed his Muslim childhood. One of the main influences came from his stepfather in Indonesia. There as a Muslim, Obama spent "at least four years in a Madrassa, or Muslim seminary. A source close to the investigation said 'He was a Muslim, but he concealed it.'"

His Muslim father gave Obama his middle name: Hussein. Barack rarely uses that name in public, particularly in America where he is in contest for the White House.

After his parents' divorce (his father, being black, came from Kenya), Obama's mother wedded an Indonesian student. Of course, Indonesia is a blatant Muslim country. According to US Intelligence, the nation is composed of primarily Muslim schools that teach legalistic Islam - Wahhabbi.

That particular segment of Islam is especially harsh, Koran-abiding, and following the law of the cult to the nth degree. The Wahhabbi proclaims that non-Muslims have no rights, should not exist, and Islamics should particularly hate Jews.

The schools receive moneys from Saudi Arabia that in kind is laden with Wahhabbi Muslims.

When understanding that this was Obama's childhood teaching, one then can understand how he could live twenty years with a screaming, anti-American mentor such as Jeremiah Wright. Wright was preaching exactly what Obama believed as a closet Muslim.

Obama found what he needed: the cultic Muslim cadence from Wright's pulpit plus membership in a Protestant denomination. With that membership, he could say that he is "Christian." He also could relate that he found Jesus there.

That Jesus, by the way, is not the Bible's Jesus. It is the Muslim Jesus, the latter considered merely a prophet, not the divine incarnation. If Obama had met the Bible's Jesus, Obama would not be supporting anti-biblical morality such as abortion and sodomy.

Further, the United Church of Christ (Congregational) will permit everything preached but orthodox biblical teaching. It does not adhere to the Bible as divine revelation. That denomination considers each person writing his own holy writ. Therefore, that denomination endorses same-sex recreation and abortion as well as relativism in ethics - that is, situation ethics.

Obama then becomes a member of a denomination that permits each member to write his own religion. At the same time he has a "pastor" who preaches as a mosque cleric. All this meshes with how he had been reared as a Muslim.

He marries Michelle, lawyer, of like mind.

They both are well educated, members of a Protestant church and rise to the top with good looks, charm and a suave demeanor. But in fact they are closet Muslims, part of the sleeper cells current in the United States.

Concerning his father coming from Kenya, that opens up another Islamic connection with his cousin, Raila Odinga. He tried to become president of Kenya. He lost the election; however, his followers have brought about "ethnic cleansing" in retaliation.

This cousin of Obama's promised the country a total Islamic rule even though Muslims count only 10% while Christians count 80%. The cousin promised a legalistic Muslim regime where Christians were eliminated and the Koran's sharia was implanted. When the cousin was running for office in Kenya, Obama called the cousin during his New Hampshire campaign to wish his relative well in the elections in Africa.

What does that say about Obama?

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19791.shtml

-- March 26, 2008 6:02 PM


Anonymous wrote:

All:

I wanted to offer some comments about the conflict in Basra. While the Shi'ite on Shi'ite violence is grim. It is a necessary conflict to cement the Al-Malaki government. If the security forces are able to win this battle it will lead to the weakening of Al-Sadr. Weaking his influence is very positive.

The U.S. made it clear today that Iraqi Security Forces in Basra is an Iraqi operation only. I am sure if the ISFs need U.S. help in controlling Basra the U.S. forces are available. It is my hope, the ISFs can bring the Sadrs forces under control. What are your thoughts?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 26, 2008 10:09 PM


Carole wrote:

Hi Sara,

I am having a problem with a "server error" on my computer. Can you please e-mail me the Mich. News article you just posted?
Thank you
Carole

-- March 27, 2008 6:47 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole - Sent it to you.

Rob N - I think it is a test also. Maliki says here he will not back down, so that determination is good.

My thought is that there cannot be two "armies" within a country who are not allied to the same goal and under the same rules. In this case - those with allegiance to the government and those who will do what Sadr tells them to. It is too destabilizing. Of course Sadr can be a heavyweight in their politics by being a popular politician and cleric. But being a military power cannot be allowed because stability to the country will suffer. There needs to be only one voice of law and it must be in line with their rule of law as set forth in their Constitution. I do not think anyone thinks Sadr's militia are upholding the written law of the Iraqi Constitution in what they are doing. Anything less is mere civil disobedience by a rebel group and must be put down in any civilized society.

Political and ideological disagreements or injustices are to be settled by negotiation and peacefully - through the courts - and not just a token protest and then to arms, as we have seen the Sadr group do recently. Once the Middle East gets a handle on how to adopt the concept of rule of law instead of rival armies fighting until one wins, we will all be a lot closer to a peaceful world.

I also think the people of Iraq would like to read about and determine what they think about the ideological, political, economic and religious disagreements in the paper, rather than having to duck for cover from incoming weaponry. Their voting into power those who represent their views will help their views prevail.. rather than sending their young men into harm's way to force a resolution to go their way.

Once everyone gets the ground rules and that the peaceful system is not less "manly" a way to settle disputes, I think the Middle East will find it a better system to live by than the barbaric one they are accustomed to. Then they can go about their business and lives holding to their views without feeling someone will strike them dead for it. If the Middle East can invent chess, they can learn to play the equally aggressive political power games without bloodshed that civilized nations have become accustomed to - with the result being a far more peaceful world and a grateful Iraqi populace - for the Iraqis are truly sick of the violence.

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Iraq PM Al-Maliki Vows To Continue Basra Crackdown

BAGHDAD (AFP)--Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki vowed Thursday to continue an assault on Shiite militants in the southern city of Basra, where three days of fighting have killed nearly two dozen people and wounded hundreds.

"We have come to Basra at the invitation of the civilians to do our national duty and protect them from the gangs who have terrified them and stolen the national wealth," Maliki said in a statement issued by his office.

Iraqi armed forces have since Tuesday been battling Shiite militiamen in Basra neighborhoods that are strongholds of the Mahdi Army fighters of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

Maliki, who is in Basra, said his government "and nobody else" was leading the assault.

"We promise to face the criminals and gunmen and we will never back off from our promise," he said.

He also rejected dialogue with "criminals."

"We consider negotiations with outlaws to be against the constitution," he said. "Their only choice is to disarm and give guarantees that they will respect the law."

On Wednesday, Maliki gave militants a 72 hour deadline to surrender their weapons.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080327\ACQDJON200803270932DOWJONESDJONLINE000719.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Iraq%20PM%20Al-Maliki%20Vows%20To%20Continue%20Basra%20Crackdown%20-%20AFP

-- March 27, 2008 12:36 PM


Sara wrote:

Speaking of the Rule of Law and how it deals with those who are said to be acting outside it - when Rule of Law is upheld, rather than the practice of blaming someone for wrongdoing and then in the heat of anger going out and creating an uprising and killing people for that perceived wrong as Sadr's groups are doing - Rule of Law acts to begin court proceedings against the troublemakers or source of injustice. And then that person or entity has a day in court to answer the charges, not groups of armed men roving the streets shooting people to "make it right".

Corruption, bribery, and other such "wrongdoings" by officials can be addressed within the courts, rather than resorting to arms. The Rule of Law must be upheld. Wouldn't it be better if Iraq were reading about charges being brought against those who Sadr's followers think are in the wrong, rather than a body count and death toll as they fight it out between the two armies?

==

US: Saddam Paid for Lawmakers' Iraq Trip
Prosecutors Say Saddam's Intelligence Agency Financed US Lawmakers' Prewar Trip to Iraq
By MATT APUZZO Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON Mar 26, 2008 AP - Saddam Hussein's intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion, federal prosecutors said Wednesday.

The three anti-war Democrats made the trip in October 2002, while the Bush administration was trying to persuade Congress to authorize military action against Iraq.

Prosecutors say that trip was arranged by Muthanna Al-Hanooti, a Michigan charity official, who was charged Wednesday with setting up the junket at the behest of Saddam's regime. Iraqi intelligence officials allegedly paid for the trip through an intermediary and rewarded Al-Hanooti with 2 million barrels of Iraqi oil.

The lawmakers are not named in the indictment but the dates correspond to a trip by Democratic Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington, David Bonior of Michigan and Mike Thompson of California. None was charged and Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said investigators "have no information whatsoever" any of them knew the trip was underwritten by Saddam.

Al-Hanooti was arrested Tuesday night while returning to the U.S. from the Middle East, where he was looking for a job, his attorney, James Thomas, said. Al-Hanooti pleaded not guilty Wednesday to charges of conspiracy to act as an unregistered agent of a foreign government, illegally purchasing Iraqi oil and lying to authorities. He was being held on $100,000 bail.

Prosecutors said Al-Hanooti was responsible for monitoring Congress for the Iraqi Intelligence Service. From 1999 to 2002, he allegedly provided Saddam's government with a list of U.S. lawmakers he believed favored lifting economic sanctions against Iraq.

Thomas said Al-Hanooti would "vigorously defend" himself against the charges but he could not discuss the specifics of the case since he had seen none of the evidence.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4531467

-- March 27, 2008 12:59 PM


Sara wrote:

Here is another one from a couple of months back but relevant because this time it is a government official and shows that the law does have the reach to touch any that Sadr or his followers may accuse. No one is above the law and all can be addressed through it, INSTEAD of bloodshed. (Maybe not the best example, but one.):

Ex-Congressman Charged in Terror Finance Case
Mark Deli Siljander Faces Charges Stemming From Islamic Charity Investigation
By JACK DATE and THERESA COOK
Jan. 16, 2007

A former U.S. congressman has been charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstruction of justice for allegedly helping a charity that the government believes has ties to an al Qaeda and Taliban supporter.

Mark Deli Siljander, a former congressman from Michigan who also served one year as a delegate to the United Nations, is accused of lobbying the Senate Finance Committee to have the Islamic American Relief Agency removed from a list of nonprofit organizations suspected of supporting terrorism. The group has denied that it supports terror.

Siljander, who served in Congress from 1981-87, also allegedly accepted $50,000 in stolen government funds for his lobbying activity. The money, the government says, was stolen from the U.S. Agency for International Development by the IARA when the charity's contract with the government was terminated.

Voice and e-mail messages left at Siljander's business, Global Strategies Inc., weren't immediately returned, but a statement issued through the Special Guests publicity firm said Siljander "vehemently denies the allegations in the Indictment and will enter a not guilty plea."

"Mr. Siljander was never involved with raising money for international terrorism nor involved in any alleged efforts by IARA to engage in any prohibited financial transactions," the statement continued.

"This superseding indictment paints a troubling picture of an American charity organization that engaged in transactions for the benefit of terrorists and conspired with a former United States congressman to convert stolen federal funds into payment for his advocacy on behalf of the charity," Assistant Attorney General Ken Wainstein said in a statement.

The charity allegedly used an orphanage to launder the money. "An organization right here in the American heartland allegedly sent funds to Pakistan for the benefit of a specially designated global terrorist with ties to al Qaeda and the Taliban," U.S. attorney John Wood said in a statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/story?id=4144185

===

Again, are these people necessarily guilty? The tradition of "innocent until proven guilty" is a necessary one with the Rule of Law. Instead of taking up arms against the accused - even government officials - charges are brought and they are to be allowed to disprove the allegations in court, if they can. That is a far better way to deal with things than taking up arms in an uprising directly against what is perceived as government corruption. It also allows both sides to be heard and weighed in judgement. There needs to be patience and less of a rush to judgement (and arms) in Iraq.

And this is, of course, setting aside the idea we have discussed of Sadr being an agent of Iran and ONLY going by what the Sadrists themselves say they are doing and why.. to address corruption. Sadr himself said it is to "protect the poor" from "attack".

===

Street Battles As Army Tackles Militants
Tuesday March 25, 2008

However, Sadr warned he would launch protests and a nationwide strike if the attacks were not stopped.

"We demand that religious and political leaders intervene to stop the attacks on poor people," he said in a statement.

"We call on all Iraqis to launch protests across all the provinces.

"If the government does not respect these demands, the second step will be general civil disobedience in Baghdad and the Iraqi provinces."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1310483,00.html?f=rss

But going back a couple of weeks we see what is at the root of this discontent concerning the "poor" who are supposedly being wrongfully "attacked"... It turns out TENS OF THOUSANDS of Sadr's young supporters are poor.. and itching for a fight.

===

Iraq cleric Sadr says militia will defend itself
March 9, 2008

Anti-US Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr says his Mehdi Army will defend itself against attack by the US military or secular opponents, despite extending a ceasefire.

The normally reclusive Sheikh Sadr released his second statement in three days responding to a list of questions from followers, including whether his focus was now becoming more political and cultural since the ceasefire was extended.

"If a military war is conducted against us by the occupiers we will defend ourselves," Sheikh Sadr said in the four-page statement bearing his personal seal.

The ceasefire is seen as a key factor behind falling levels of violence across Iraq, along with the deployment of an extra 30,000 US troops and the growing use of mainly Sunni Arab neighbourhood security units.

But many of his tens of thousands of followers among young and poor Iraqis in Baghdad and the mainly Shiite south have questioned the truce.

"The freezing of the Mehdi Army does not mean it is turning into a humanitarian or cultural institution, rather it is a time for rehabilitating and reforming until further notice," said Sheikh Sadr, who also commands a large bloc in parliament.

"If the West and the secularists conduct an ideological and cultural war against us and against Islam, we must be fortified to defend ourselves, religiously, ideologically and socially to stand in the face of the barbarians."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/10/2184572.htm

I think if Sadr is telling the truth that what we are witnessing here a clash of civilizations. The people of Iraq are used to a strongman in power who rules with an iron fist, with bloodshed and with force. When the TENS OF THOUSANDS of young AND POOR followers of Sadr asked him in the above challenge to his power whether he is getting soft in his ideals - moving towards peace and the Rule of Law - he responds with saying his truce does not mean that he is turning toward a "humanitarian or cultural institution" nor does his focus extend to that which is "more political and cultural" but he remains on the warpath, in the old ways.

I do not believe this is the way to peace for Iraq but back to the old ways of bloodshed and strongmen. These old ways are actually gone and this is the final battle of the old and new, a final stand of those who believe in battling things out in bloodshed - a view which can be seen to be rapidly going the way of the 8-track tape.

If it is true that this is about the poor and the need for them to be protected from 'attack', then the Rule of Law is the answer - address through the courts, suing those reponsible - not armed conflict. (Is there a possibility that these young and poor men are acting aggressively and so are often singled out as "bad apples" by the Iraqi security forces? These aggressive young men who wish a fight may see it as "attacks" but are they provoking it because they feel they must "defend" their viewpoint and wish to do so with the edge of a sword?)

But if it is not so, but is actually just a way for Iran to stir up strife and discontent for their own aims, manipulating these young, poor discontented youths to "Islamic" war (which is actually only to benefit Iran's interests in the region, such as destabilization of Iraq) - Then it is a proxy war and must be fought to the end with determination in order to repel the invader's people who have infiltrated using domestic enemies on Iraqi soil.

-- March 27, 2008 1:53 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Anonymous, let's hope that things settle down soon. I guess Al-Maliki is showing everyone that he can exert himself. He is seen by the west as a lame duck prime minister - PM with no real power to get anything done. It has long been known that the west has lost confidence in him. So, this is his big chance. If he needs help, he'll most likely ask the British as Basra was the area that they patrolled.

-- March 27, 2008 3:28 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bush Scolds Congress About Iraq
March 27, 2008
Associated Press
DAYTON, Ohio - President Bush on Thursday defended the slow pace of progress in Iraq, asserting "it is not foot-dragging" as Iraqi politicians try to reach agreement on political, security and economic goals.

Bush derided calls from Congress for troop withdrawals or deadlines so that the military could focus more on the anti-terror battle elsewhere. "This argument makes no sense," he said.

Bush offered his assessment of the war in a speech before a military audience of more than 1,000 people at the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton.

Within weeks, Bush is expected to endorse the recommendations of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq. Petraeus has proposed a pause in troop cutbacks to assess the impact of having withdrawn five combat brigades since December. He has argued that it would be reckless to shrink the American force so rapidly that the gains achieved over the past year are compromised or lost entirely.

Bush suggested Iraqi officials were able to make more progress than the U.S. Congress.

"They got their budget passed," the president said. "Sometimes it takes our Congress awhile to get its budget passed.

"Nevertheless some members of Congress decided the best way to encourage progress in Baghdad was to criticize and threaten Iraq's leaders while they're trying to work out their differences," Bush said.

"But hectoring was not what the Iraqi leaders needed," he said. "What they needed was security. And that is what the surge has provided."

Bush asked critics of Iraq's political progress to consider the enormity of the task.

"They're trying to build a modern democracy on the rubble of three decades of tyranny, in a region of the world that has been hostile to freedom. And they're doing it while under assault from one of history's most brutal terrorist networks," Bush said. "When it takes time for Iraqis to reach agreement, it is not foot-dragging, as one senator described it during Congress' two-week Easter recess. It is a revolutionary undertaking that requires great courage."

Bush was referring to comments made in a television interview last weekend by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon. He told CNN on Sunday that there has been too much "foot-dragging on key governance questions in Iraq" and that putting off troop withdrawals would only exacerbate it.

The president pointedly took on the Democratic case for troop withdrawals.

"No matter what shortcomings these critics diagnose, their prescription is always the same: retreat," Bush said. "They claim that our strategic interest is elsewhere and if we would just get out of Iraq, we could focus on the battles that really matter."

But, he countered, "If America's strategic interests are not in Iraq, the convergence point for the twin threats of al-Qaida and Iran, the nation Osama bin Laden's deputy has called the place for the greatest battle, the country at the heart of the most volatile region on earth, then where are they?"
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 27, 2008 5:53 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Industry ministry prepares 45 SOEs for foreign investment

Iraq’s Ministry of Industry and Minerals has identified 45 state owned enterprises (SOEs) that will be offered up for investment to local and international companies as part of wide ranging plans to inject foreign capital into the country’s dilapidated industrial sector.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 27, 2008 5:54 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


"Maliki's actions resemble oppression of 91 uprising", says Shanshal 27/03/2008 15:27:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP for the Sadrist bloc Falah Shanshal has described military operations overseen by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki as being "Similar to Saddam's oppression of the Sha'bani uprising in 1991."
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 27, 2008 5:55 PM


Sara wrote:

In light of that post from Michnews about Obama being raised a Muslim -which he denies, but they assert, quote, "researchers have revealed his Muslim childhood. One of the main influences came from his stepfather in Indonesia. There as a Muslim, Obama spent "at least four years in a Madrassa, or Muslim seminary. A source close to the investigation said 'He was a Muslim, but he concealed it.'" (end quote)..

I think it may be that a large percentage of these people in this poll given below who supposedly "get Obama's religion wrong" may not be stupid or ignorant about the issue. At least some of them appear to be holding to the position of not believing his profession of being a Christian, and are choosing to believe he is a "closet Muslim" - much like people used to be "closet homosexuals" - afraid to say what he truly is for fear of the political reprisal that would mean.

It appears to me that there is a growing segment of the population who believe he is covering his belief in Islam by joining a United Church of Christ where what exactly he believes would not be put under Christian Biblical scrutiny... since the article states about that denomination, quote "the United Church of Christ (Congregational) will permit everything preached but orthodox biblical teaching. It does not adhere to the Bible as divine revelation."

So rather than the following statistics going away as "dumb" people get smarter and more informed about what Obama says about himself.. that statistic may grow larger if it is being fed by people becoming more informed and coming to differing conclusion based on the data rather than simply swallowing what Obama asserts about himself without any scrutiny. The ability to hold to another opinion (freedom of belief) was a right given to all in the United States last I heard.. even if the MSM ridicules those who hold to a differing opinion as ignorant and uninformed/enlightened.

Demographics.. it's EVERYONE

The demographics quoted in this article of quote,"Nearly a quarter of white Democrats with unfavorable views of Obama say he is Muslim though overall, blacks are about as likely as whites to hold the misconception." shows that it is not just a "white" or racial viewpoint. It is conservatives, Democrats, whites, blacks AND the "less educated" (does that mean they didn't complete high school so they are stupid in every decision they make? can we define "less educated".. to mean their vote doesn't count?).

LYING STATISTICS...

When I add up the numbers below of those who say Obama is a Muslim - 14% Republicans, 10% Democrats and 8% Independents.. I get that 32% of those polled think he is a Muslim. And I think that statistic may only grow much larger as time goes on. So it isn't that only "1 in 10" are saying Obama is a Muslim.. it is roughly "1 in 10" REPUBLICANS, "1 in 10" DEMOCRATS, "1 in 10" INDEPEPENDENTS.. or THIRTY PERCENT (32% actually) IN ALL.. of the entire population polled. AMAZING how they can make the statistics lie and seem so much smaller than they are. It may be that the statistic of THIRTY TWO PERCENT of the population saying he is a Muslim is significant and likely a GROWING statistic.. as I do not know for sure, but I think that is a significant change in the public opinion about Obama.

==

Poll: 1 in 10 Get Obama's Religion "Wrong"
Mar 27, 4:51 PM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - One in 10 voters believes Barack Obama is Muslim, a mistaken impression that lingers across party lines, a poll showed Wednesday.

Fourteen percent of Republicans, 10 percent of Democrats and 8 percent of independents think he is Muslim, according to a survey by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center. Just over half of each group identified him as Christian, while about a third said they don't know his religion.

The rumor that the Democratic presidential candidate and Illinois senator is Muslim has been fanned on the Internet and conservative talk radio.

It has persisted despite the recent controversy over divisive remarks by his longtime pastor at the Trinity United Church of Christ, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Those saying they have heard a lot about Wright's comments are about as likely as others to say they think Obama is Muslim, the poll showed.

Conservatives, less educated voters and white evangelical Protestants are likelier to believe Obama is Muslim, as are people from the South, the Midwest and rural areas, the poll showed. Nearly a quarter of white Democrats with unfavorable views of Obama say he is Muslim though overall, blacks are about as likely as whites to hold the "misconception".

The Pew poll was conducted March 19-22. It involved telephone interviews with 1,503 adults, including 618 Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 percentage points for all adults and 4.5 percentage points for Democratic voters.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080327/D8VM0IP80.html

-- March 27, 2008 10:14 PM


Sara wrote:

No, Maliki isn't a dictator..
he is fighting a very deadly enemy who is not exactly acting in peaceful ways,
as detailed below:

===

Shiite Leader Muqtada al-Sadr Wants 'Political Solution' to Deadly Clashes in Basra
Thursday, March 27, 2008

BAGHDAD — Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr wants a "political solution" to the crisis that has led to deadly clashes between his followers and government security forces this week in Baghdad and the oil-rich south.

In a brief statement released in this holy Shiite city south of Baghdad, al-Sadr said he wants "everyone to pursue political solutions and peaceful protests and a stop to the shedding of Iraqi blood."

The statement was relayed to he media by al-Sadr's close aide Hazem al-Aaraji.

Earlier Thursday, Iraq's prime minister vowed to fight "until the end" against Shiite militias in Basra despite protests by tens of thousands of followers of a radical cleric in Baghdad and deadly clashes across the capital and the oil-rich south.

Mounting anger focused on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is personally overseeing operations against the militias dominated by al-Sadr's supporters amid a violent power struggle in Basra, Iraq's southern oil hub.

The Iraqi leader made his pledge to tribal leaders in the Basra area as military operations continued for a fourth day with stiff resistance.

"We have made up our minds to enter this battle and we will continue until the end. No retreat," he said in a speech broadcast on Iraqi state TV.

The events threatened to unravel a Mahdi Army cease-fire and lead to a dramatic escalation in violence after a period of relative calm that had lasted for months.

Sadrist lawmakers in Baghdad issued a strongly worded statement demanding a halt to the military operations and appealing to Iraqi security forces to stand down.

Demonstrators in the northern Baghdad neighborhood of Kazimiyah also called al-Maliki a "new dictator."

The crisis was seen as a test of the Iraqi government's ability to eventually take over its own security. The U.S.-led coalition has a minimal presence in Basra after British forces turned over responsibility for the area to the Iraqis in late December.

Suspected Shiite extremists also continued to hammer the U.S.-protected Green Zone, firing several rounds of apparent rockets that sent a huge plume of smoke above the heavily fortified area in central Baghdad.

No casualties were immediately reported Thursday, but the military said a U.S. soldier, two American civilians and an Iraqi soldier were wounded in a volley the day before. An American financial analyst was killed Sunday in attacks on the Green Zone.

The demonstrating Sadrists are angry over recent raids and detentions, saying U.S. and Iraqi forces have taken advantage of the August cease-fire to crack down on the movement.

They have accused rival Shiite parties, which control Iraqi security forces, of engineering the arrests to prevent them from mounting an effective campaign after the Iraqi parliament agreed in February to hold provincial elections by the fall.

U.S. commanders have insisted the fight is being led by the Iraqi government and was not against al-Sadr's movement but breakaway factions believed to be funded and trained by Iran, which has denied the allegations.

Al-Maliki has warned gunmen in Basra to surrender their weapons by Friday or face harsher measures.

Despite the ultimatum, heavy gunfire and explosions resounded across Basra while helicopters and jet fighters buzzed overhead. The city's police chief escaped an assassination attempt late Thursday but three of his guards were killed in the roadside bombing.

Government troops have faced stiff resistance in neighborhoods controlled by the Mahdi Army in Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad. Residents spoke of militiamen using mortar shells, sniper fire, roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades to fight off security forces.

A Pentagon official said Wednesday that reports from the Basra area indicate that militiamen had overrun a number of police stations. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Street battles that started Tuesday in Basra and Sadr City have spread to several other neighborhoods and southern cities, leaving more than 200 dead, including civilians, Iraqi troops and militants. That three-day figure was a rough estimate provided by police and hospital officials who could not give a more specific breakdown.

Iraqi officials reported 17 more people killed in overnight clashes in Sadr City, raising the total there to 40.

The death toll in the Shiite city of Hillah, 60 miles south of Baghdad, also rose to at least 60 in fighting that continued into Thursday, according to a senior police official who asked not to be identified because of security concerns.

The U.S. military said four suspected Shiite extremists were killed in an airstrike but it had no further details.

The police chief in Kut, Abdul-Hanin al-Amara said 40 gunmen had been killed and 75 others wounded in that southeastern city.

A bomb struck an oil pipeline Thursday in Basra, a local oil official said, declining to be identified because he was not authorized to release the information.

Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani, however, sought to assure international oil companies. The security situation in Basra "is still unstable ... but this has not reflected negatively (on) works at oil output and export installations," al-Shahristani told the U.S.-funded Radio Sawa.

In other violence reported by police, a booby-trapped car exploded near the Iraqi Red Crescent Society's offices in Baghdad, killing two civilians and wounding five.

Gunmen also killed a U.S.-allied Sunni fighter and wounded his wife and daughter after storming his house in the northern city of Samarra late Wednesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342209,00.html

-- March 27, 2008 10:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Lest we forget.. HUNDREDS of such exist:

===

37 bodies found in Iraq mass grave
Posted Mar 27 2008

Iraqi and US forces have found 37 bodies in a mass grave uncovered in the restive province of Diyala, north-east of Baghdad, a US military statement said.

The grave was found near the town of Muqdadiyah in the province which is a stronghold of Al Qaeda in Iraq militants.

Human rights groups believe there are hundreds of mass graves in Iraq of people killed during the former regime of executed dictator Saddam Hussein.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/28/2201231.htm?section=justin

-- March 28, 2008 12:25 AM


Jay Leno wrote:

Joke of the day:

Did you hear that they finally found Osama bin Laden? He changed his looks. He cut his hair, shaved off his beard, started wearing a suit. Oh, yeah, and he changed his name to Obama!

-- March 28, 2008 2:32 AM


Roger wrote:

Hi all,

Wow, I can see that I am really out of touch with the current developments in Iraq. Have not been on the Iraq lookout for some time, and things are happening there with frequent regularity.

Of course frequent regularity of happenings, in the Iraqi scene is regular normalcy.

At the moment I am so far behind the lead runners that I am embarrassed.

Thank you all that have posted so much, it's so easy just to scroll down post after post, and read up on things.

Something of a non Iraqi nature caught my eyes, when it came to addressing another church, a cult.

A cult or sect, is by definition a secretive organization, and if the church is doing any reach out for new members, like promoting themselves, or invite new members, they are not a sect or cult.

A true sect or cult, usually get new members only rarely, and those that are hanging on the fringes have usually a very long probation period, where the members are judging the new members trust, and the other means of getting new members is by the sects members getting children.

A true sect or cult will seek isolation.

A Church or line of faith can, if one member are having problem with (usually disagreeing relatives) a person, or other group ask the member to disconnect, but a true sect or cult will have all it's members disconnect from all people the member have known in the past.

Any church or faith group that invite other people, have an open door to their activity, and are using any communication channel to promote itself, knocking on doors, leaving pamphlets, sign on the meeting hall, ads, and a recruiting campaign, etc, is not a sect or a cult.

The use of sect or cult, is usually used carelessly by non members of the church or faith group, and usually by critics of the church or faith group, where the critic are posing the church or faith group with the negative concept of sect or cult.

Reporters in the media love to say sect and cult, of any and all faith group or churches that is not mainstream.

True sects and cults are far and few in between, and just by the fact that they are practicing isolation, they seldom grow big. Just by the fact that they withdraw from society, makes group psychosis common. They feel no belonging to society, and harmful happenings have taken place, in groups like that. Mostly suicide pacts, but also on occasion an attack on society.

Groups that withdraw is not necessarily religious groups, but it can also be political groups. Either way, if they withdraw, and form a secretive group, they are a sect or cult.

From that, to disagreeing with a church or faith group is a long and unreal leap. True sects or cults don't have signs, pamphlets, invitations, or open doors to their church or organizational meetings, they don't practice any kind of missionary work, and are not listed in the Yellow pages.

Secret societies, like many Lodge, Masonic or other similar organizations, can not be a sect or cult, as they are doing missionary work, even though it is under anonymity. Charity, education, or just plainly helping the members of the group, to succeed in society. Those are geared towards a successful society, and the organizations are well marked, with big signs on the building, insignia, symbols, uniform (usually funny looking hats) etc, that clearly states to what group they are belonging.

It is the reluctancy of the observer, the non interest, but mostly the non understanding, from the non member of a church or faith group, that makes the activity of that church or faith group repulsive, and thus the assumption that the members must be nuts, and as the cultural or religious codes of the observer forbids, denies, or repulse that activity, that church or faith group must be lessened, and what is not better than call them a cult, or a sect.

It's just plain simpler to make up the mind of what you believe, have your faith, and for the others, live and let live.


-- March 28, 2008 6:47 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I read this morning where an Iranian Cleric is calling for the end to the fighting in Basra. This cleric also offered to broker a deal between the Shi'ite factions and the GoI.

While we all want to see a peaceful and prosperous Iraq, this battle for Basra is very significant in my thinking. We are seeing Al-Malaki vs. Al-Sadr. The winner in Basra will go far to establish themselves as the leading influence inside Iraq.

As I said yesterday, if Al-Malaki and the Iraqi Security Forces can bring a sense of control to the region it cements him as the true leader of Iraq and strengthens his government.

If Al-Sadr's faction wins control of Basra, Al-Malaki will continue to play the puppet of Al-Sadr and Iran. The long term propects for U.S. policy in Iraq may not continue to be justified.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:04 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Western firms have an open appetite to Iraqi market

Roula Khalaf and Steve Negus, both wrote an article published by the newspaper Financial Times under the title "taboo fields: oil groups compete to win the prize of Iraqi enormous reserves," in which they said that the company Royal Dutch Shell is working quietly and in secret with the Iraqi Oil Ministry over the last two years advising it on how to increase production in two fields of oil, under an agreement signed after the invasion in 2003; however, non of the officials of company, which is the largest oil group in Europe, put a foot step in this troubled and oil-filled country. There were only monthly meetings held face-to-face with the Iraqi Oil Ministry in the Jordanian capital of Amman, and the communication is through weekly video link.

The two authors said that Shell Company is negotiating in the meantime with the Iraqi Oil Ministry on a technical support agreement whereby it receives compensations for its assistance in modernizing the production of producing fields. Shell will again form a panel works from outside Iraq to provide assistance, bring new equipments to Iraq and train Iraqis to use these equipments. The authors draw out that Shell is one of several international oil companies, including B.B and the two American groups Exxon Mobil and Chevron, are trying to penetrate the Iraqi oil industry using the remote control devise. It is noted that after segments of the international oil industry is threatened with nationalization and the majority of the Middle East is closed to foreign ownership of the reserves, entering Iraq which has the third largest oil reserves in the world has become a great prize that international oil companies have been passionately looking forward to for a long time
(www.dinartrade.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Al-Zubaidi invites private sector to particiapte out reconstruction

Minister of finance Baqir Jabr al-Zubaidi appealed to the private sector to become more active in reconstruction work across Iraq participation; praised the authorities in Babylon for their efficiency in executing such projects.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:11 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

UN agencies send urgent aid to volatile Basra

Population 3/28/2008 4:29:00 PM



BAGHDAD, March 28 (KUNA) -- The United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) on Friday said that UN aid agencies were preparing to send urgent aid supplies in response to the volatile situation in Iraq's southern city of Basra.
The United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) seeks to provide 39 million water purification tablets, in addition to dehydration and diarrhea medications, UNAMI said in a statement, adding that the World Health Organization (WHO) had pledged to provide 1,600 blood units, while the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) is to donate 200 tons of food supplies.
The UN's High Commission for Refugee Affairs is to give blankets, cooking utensils and water containers to some 8,000 families, while the International Organization for Migration (IOM) will donate 3,400 food baskets, the statement noted.
Since last Tuesday, Basra was witnessing sever shortage of food supplies due to military operations executed by the Iraqi government against armed men. (end)
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:16 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Basra bombed by coalition jets after Shia militia attacks

Military and Security 3/28/2008 1:40:00 PM



(WITH MIL-IRAQ-BASRA) LONDON, March 28 (KUNA) -- Coalition jets dropped bombs on Basra overnight for the first time in four days of fierce fighting, the British military authorities confirmed Friday.
British and US jets have been patrolling the skies over the second city since last Tuesday as Iraqi forces launched a major offensive against Shia militias.
The action, being overseen personally by Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, is the first major military operation in the city since it was handed over to full Iraqi control last December.
The bulk of Britain's remaining 4,100 military personnel in Iraq are stationed outside Basra but have not played an active role in the fighting, maintaining a so-called "overwatch" position.
British Royal Air Force jets have, however, been involved in aerial surveillance over insurgent positions and Iraqi helicopters have been able to refuel at Britain's Basra airport base, British press reports said.
There was no immediate confirmation of whether the bombs dropped last night were released by British aircraft or other members of the US-led coalition.
But Major Tom Holloway, British military spokesman in Basra, said there had been "incidences of weapons release" over the city last night. (end)
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Maliki extends ultimatum for gunmen to drop guns in Basra

Military and Security 3/28/2008 12:40:00 PM



BAGHDAD, March 28 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Prime Minister and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces Nouri Al-Maliki declared on Friday a 12-day deadline for militias, involved in street fighting with government troops in the southern city of Basra, to drop their arms in return for financial rewards.
Al-Maliki said in a press release issued by his office that all those who possess combat weapons should hand them over to security authorities in return for financial rewards before April 8.
He stressed that the ultimatum deadline is a response to the need to "solve illegal arming that threatens security and the lives and properties of citizens." Al-Maliki had given militants a 72-hour ultimatum deadline, that ended today, to drop their weapons. He said, on Thursday, that there would be neither "retreat nor negotiations" with outlawed armed men in southern city of Basra.
The three days of fighting has largely turned Basra into a ghost city, with most streets deserted, except for regulars and rag-tag gunmen, opening fire or launching rockets or mortar shells sporadically.
Television networks have broadcast footages of the city, showing damaged or burnt properties. Oil exports from the city terminal was temporarily abrupted, yesterday, after one of the three oil pipelines was sabotaged.
Meanwhile, the Iraqi Parliament will hold an extraordinary session on Friday to discuss security situation and tension in Basra.
Iraqi Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Al-Mashhadani announced in a press release on Thursday that the session will be held Friday afternoon.
The majority in the Iraqi Parliament Thursday expressed solidarity with Al-Maliki's security campaign to uproot outlawed militias in Basra.
Around 130 people have been killed and 350 injured since the campaign began in the oil-rich city on Tuesday. The operation was launched after the city appeared falling into the hands of the irregular gunmen, including followers of the hardline cleric, Muqtada Al-Sadr, chief of Al-Mehdi Army militia.
In the mean time, a complete two-day curfew was imposed in Baghdad. It will end early Sunday. (end)
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq''s Parliament majority backs Maliki''s security campaign in Basra

Politics 3/28/2008 12:48:00 AM



BAGHDAD, March 27 (KUNA) -- The majority in the Iraqi parliament Thursday expressed solidarity with Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki's security campaign to uproot outlawed militias in Basra city.
The parliament's Presidency lauded Maliki's step, saying that it was following the developments of the operations in the southern city of Basra with utmost concern and responsibility.
The statement went on saying it was with the spread of rule of state and security in Basra, encouraging the government to continue its plans for the sake of Iraqis.
Similarly, United Iraqi Alliance, the majority bloc of the parliament, also supported the campaign.
Deputy Speaker Dr. Khaled Al-Attiyah and parliamentary blocs supporting the military campaign said that the government has practiced its executive responsibilities to bring peace to Basra, riding the city from terror militias.
All operations in Basra were backed up by the law and the constitution, said Al-Attiyah, denying that the operations were used as a political tool.
Alliance member, Sami Al-Askari also had similar statements, affirming that operations were not targeting specific groups. (end)
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Maliki announces 5-day truce 28/03/2008 13:27:00

Basra (NINA)- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has decided to announce a truce for five days in order to allow people to get supplies of food, water and other life necessities.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 10:20 AM


Sara wrote:

On Cults...

Roger - About your interesting dissertation on cults and sects.. a couple of questions. You speak of isolation being a key to defining a cult. Is it completely necessary for that label to apply? Would you consider it a form of isolation, for instance, if a church will only allow their members to be from one group? Obama's church has only black members and are "proudly black" in such a way that no whites would be welcome there. Obviously, someone preaching from the pulpit such hateful words toward white people (Hillary ain't never been a N----, etc.) would exclude anyone not of that race. Is that.. cultish in behavior? If isolation is the only criteria (and must be true for a cult to exist) then why is it that the Jim Jones Christian church (a cult where the followers committed suicide en masse) was an active member of the community and did many, many good works? They were into outreach in a big way, and charity work, too.. they visited widows and shut-ins, they gave unceasingly to the poor and were great examples of good works - which is why they grew so rapidly and were not seen as a cult (until it was too late). I think, therefore, that isolation can be one symptom of a cult but is not a necessary or definitive explanation of them all.

Secondly, as far as the United Church of Christ (Congregational) group.. if it is not a cult by your isolationist definition (it is a denomination).. can we at least say it is not by Biblical definition a group we can truly say is "Christian"? What I mean is.. that the label of Christian when the entire denomination, quote, "does not adhere to the Bible as divine revelation" is a misapplication of the term as held by Christianity. To take a faith based on the Bible (Christianity) and then say you are one of them but reject the Bible.. is that not a non-Christian cult?

In thinking on this I took down off my shelf the definitive Christian work on cults by Walter Martin called "The Kingdom of the Cults." He speaks for the historic position of Christianity on cults when he says,
QUOTE:

"By the term cult I mean nothing derogatory to any group so classified. A cult, as I define it, is any religious group which differs significantly in some one or more respects as to belief or practice from those religious groups which are regarded as the normative expressions of a religion in our total culture. I may add to this that a cult might also be defined as a group of people gathered about a specific person or person's misinterpretation of the Bible. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses are, for the most part, followers of the interpretations of Charles T. Russell and J. F. Rutherford. The Christian Scientist of today is a disciple of Mary Baker Eddy and her interpretations of Scripture. It would be possible to go on citing many others, such as Unity School of Christianity, which follows the theology of Charles and Myrtle Fillmore. From a theological viewpoint, cults contain many major deviations from historic Christianity. Yet, paradoxically, they continue to insist that they are entitled to be classified as Christians.

Those who have written on the cults stress the authority of the Scripture as a criterion for measuring either the truth or falsity of cultic claims. It has been wisely observed that men are at liberty to reject Jesus Christ and the Bible as the Word of God; that are at liberty to oppose Him; they are at liberty to challenge it. But they are not at liberty to alter the essential message of the Scriptures, which is the good news that God does care for the lost souls of His children, and so loved us as to send His only Son that we might live through Him.

In keeping with this gospel of God's grace, our Lord not only annouced it, but He prophecied the trials and tribulations which would encompass His followers, both within the Church and without, and one of the greatest of all these trials would, our Lord taught, be the challenge of false prophets and false christs, who would come in His name and deceive many (Matthew 24:5).

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that does not bring forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them. Not every one that says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name? and in Your name have cast out devils? and in Your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from Me, you that work iniquity. (Matthew 7: 15-23)

Christ pointed out that false prophets would come. There was not a doubt in the mind of the Son of God that this would take place, and the history of the heresies of the first five centuries of the Christian Church bear out the accuracy of His predictions. Christ further taught that the fruits of the false prophets would also be apparent, and that the Church would be able to detect them readily. Let us never forget that "fruits" from a corrupt tree can also be doctrinal, as well as ethical and moral. A person may be ethically and morally "good" by human standards, but if he sets his face against Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and rejects Him, his fruit is corrupt and he is to be rejected as counterfeit.

===end quote==

So, to expand the definition and criteria for a cult from the perspective of historic Christianity.. (since 78% of the population of the USA profess to be Christians) it is not merely isolationism (in some way).. but it is instead judged by whether a person speaks according the the Bible. If a person's beliefs or the teachings of their church are against historic Christianity's understanding - such as the Biblical teachings concerning race (which is, "all are one in Christ Jesus") - then the doctrinal fruit bears out the truth of their corruption (doctrinally). Therefore, by the accepted and historic Christian definition given by Walter Martin, Obama is a cult member because his church by this definition is a cult due to their anti-Biblical teachings (including racist and other teachings).

Sara.

-- March 28, 2008 12:14 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

Will you please let me what your experience was in sending Dinar to Warka through Fed Ex? Mr I gave me a process by which to send my physical Dinar to Al-Warka. I would be interested in your thoughts.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 1:46 PM


Sara wrote:

Interesting who is hoping to benefit if Obama were to make the Whitehouse:

Analysts say that Russia may also be hoping for a Barack Obama victory at the American election in November. Mr Obama has promised to withdraw US troops from Iraq, a move that could increase the chances of Russia winning more oil deals in the country.

===

Vladimir Putin bids for Iraq oil stakes
By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
28/03/2008

Moscow has stepped up its attempts to become Washington's main rival in the Middle East with an audacious attempt to win a large stake of Iraq's oil wealth.

Glossing over his opposition to the American-led invasion and a prolonged period of poor relations with Baghdad, President Vladimir Putin wrote to Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, this week setting out the case for Russian investment in the energy sector.

The move comes at a time when Russia is aggressively expanding its influence in the Middle East, an offensive that some say echoes the Cold War competition for patronage once waged in the region by the Soviet Union and the United States.

In the past two years, Russia has signed significant arms and energy deals from the Levant to the Maghreb, causing jitters in Washington and concern across Europe.

On Tuesday Mr Putin, who steps down to become prime minister in May, signed a preliminary nuclear energy deal with Egypt that could also see Cairo become a major recipient of Russian arms.

Any oil deal with Iraq would significantly boost Russia's ambitions to regain its lost superpower status.

Russia, the world's largest energy exporter, has long hungered for a slice of Iraq's oil reserves, the third largest on earth. Until now, however, that wealth has always been tantalisingly out of reach.

Iraq's government has, until recently, frequently voiced its irritation at Russia's support for Saddam Hussein's regime, which rewarded Moscow with plum contracts under the corruption-riddled Oil-for-Food programme and signed off on unrealised but lucrative oilfield development deals.

Mr Putin believes that such differences are in the past. His letter, the Kremlin's highest-level intervention in years of quiet negotiations, marks the culmination of a charm offensive that saw Russia wipe off 90 per cent of Iraq's £6.5 billion Soviet-era debt last month.

Russia also opened a consulate in the northern city of Irbil last November and plans to open another in Basra imminently, marking the near restoration of full diplomatic relations with Iraq.

Boasting of Russia's experience in modernising energy infrastructure, Mr Putin wrote: "I hope that the positive approach of Russian business to the development of co-operation will receive proper support from the Iraqi leadership."

Mr Putin also dispatched Vagit Alekperov, the billionaire director of Russia's second largest oil company Lukoil, to Baghdad this week in the hope of resurrecting a Saddam-era deal to develop the world's largest oil field at West Qurna.

It is unclear what Lukoil's chances are of reviving the deal. Even if Lukoil loses out - and Iraqi sources say that West Qurna is most likely to be awarded to Chevron or Total - the Kremlin believes there will be other lucrative investment opportunities in Iraq.

Analysts say that Russia may also be hoping for a Barack Obama victory at the American election in November. Mr Obama has promised to withdraw US troops from Iraq, a move that could increase the chances of Russia winning more oil deals in the country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/28/wrussia128.xml

-- March 28, 2008 2:11 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bush Sees Iraq Violence As Defining


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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush said Friday that the flare-up in violence in oil-rich southern Iraq and parts of Baghdad presents "a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq" as the government there seeks to root out Shiite militias.

Bush made clear that the United States stands firmly behind Iraqi security forces and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. "He made the decision to move and we'll help him," the president said.

"It's going to take awhile, but it's a necessary part of the development of a free society," Bush said at a White House news conference with visiting Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. At the same time, the president said the situation in Iraq remains "dangerous and fragile."

His comments followed U.S. airstrikes in both the southern city of Basra and in a Shiite militia stronghold in Baghdad. The renewed violence came as tensions rose among followers of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr angry over a crackdown that has threatened to unravel a militia cease-fire.


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"Basra has been a place where criminality has thrived," Bush said. "They are fighting some pretty tough characters ... and yes, there's going to be violence, and that's sad."

He said the resurgent violence would not alter his determination to continue his administration's mission there.

"Any government that presumes to represent the majority of people must confront criminal elements or people who think they can live outside the law. That's what's taking place in Basra and other parts of Iraq," Bush said. "I would say this is a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq."

"There have been other defining moments up to now, but this is a defining moment, as well," Bush said. He said the decision to move troops into Basra was testimony to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's leadership capabilities.

"This is a good test for them," the president said.


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"I'm confident we can succeed unless we lose our nerve," he added. "It's going to take a while for them to deal with these elements. "

Bush also suggested that his Iraq policy was working because "troops are coming out."

The new Australian prime minister campaigned on a theme of withdrawing Australian troops from Iraq. Bush brought up Rudd's Iraq stance himself in his opening remarks.

Asking and answering his own question, Bush said he expected a journalist to ask him, "Aren't you mad at the prime minister for fulfilling his campaign pledge? The answer is no."

"I always like to be in the presence of somebody who does what he says he's going to do. ... This is a guy who meant it. ... He consulted closely with his friends. His military commanders consulted closely with our military commanders," Bush said.


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The president noted, however, that Australia continues to have troops in Afghanistan and is helping to train Iraqi farmers in dry-land farming.

For his part, Rudd said, "We're in Afghanistan for the long haul."

The two leaders were asked about civil unrest in Tibet and China's crackdown there and both urged China's leaders to meet with representatives of the Dalai Lama to discuss the violence.

"It is absolutely clear that there are human rights abuses in Tibet," Rudd said. "It's clear-cut; we need to be upfront and absolutely straight about what's going on."

Bush said he told Chinese President Hu Jintao this week that "it's in his country's interest" that top Chinese leaders meet with representatives of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader.


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"We urge restraint," Bush said.

On relations with Australia, said he expects them to "strengthen and endure" under Rudd.

"I don't see differences when it comes to foreign policy," Bush said. Even so, both worked to smooth over Australia's decision on Iraq.

Bush called Rudd a "straightforward fellow"and Rudd called the president "George" and joked with Bush about being from Queensland in northeast Australia, which has similar terrain as Texas.

Rudd said that after he asked Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki how Australia could help in nonmilitary ways, his country decided to send $165 million to Iraq, the bulk of which will go to help train Iraqis on dry-land farming.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 28, 2008 2:57 PM


mattuk wrote:


Iran urges end to Iraq fighting, says helps U.S.
Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:58pm GMT

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran called on Saturday for an end to fighting between Iraqi government forces and Shi'ite Muslim militants to remove any "pretext" for U.S. troops to stay in Iraq.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, himself a Shi'ite, launched a crackdown against the Mehdi Army militia in the southern Iraqi city of Basra this week. Fighting has spread and exposed a deep rift within Iraq's majority Shi'ites.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran does not regard the recent clashes in Iraq as being in the interest of the people of that country and calls for a speedy end to the clashes," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hossein said.

Speaking to the official IRNA news agency, he called for the "continuation of dialogue to find ways of establishing peace, stability and security".

He added that by avoiding clashes "the people of Iraq take away any pretext for the continued illegal presence of the occupiers."

Iran, which is overwhelmingly Shi'ite, has seen its influence inside Iraq grow since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled Tehran's sworn foe, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Iran regularly calls for U.S. troops to quit Iraq.

Washington accuses Tehran of stoking violence by funding, training and equipping Iraqi militants. Iran denies this.

U.S. President George W. Bush sought to bolster Maliki in remarks on Friday and said he wanted to send a "clear message" to Iran that it could not have its way in the Middle East.

Hosseini earlier dismissed those comments. "Such statements are baseless, repetitive and boring, and a way of shirking the occupying (U.S.) government's responsibilities," he said, according to the state broadcaster.

"Every time America faces a serious security problem in Iraq, instead of adopting logical policies to resolve the security problem in that country, it resorts to illogical methods such as levelling accusations against others," he added.

Iran has stopped tour groups of Iranian pilgrims who usually flock to Iraq to visit Shi'ite holy sites.

The governor of the southwest Iranian city of Khorramshahr, Mohammad Reza Amolazadeh, told IRNA on Saturday the Shalamsheh border crossing, near Basra, had been closed until further notice "due to security problems".

(Reporting by Hashem Kalantari and Hossein Jaseb, writing by Edmund Blair; editing by Sami Aboudi)


-- March 29, 2008 3:51 PM


The Trojan Camel? wrote:

It turns out that Barrack is a common name for Sheiks in Saudi Arabia. We all know Hussein is a common Muslim name. Just ask Saddam Hussein's relatives. So is Obama a common Muslim name.

Osama went to a Muslim Madrassa when he was young. Obama went to a Muslim Madrassa when he was young. And a President Obama wants to withdraw troops from a fight with a Muslim country. I wonder what all this means?

Probably nothing, I guess.

Just a coincidence, I guess.

-- March 30, 2008 7:12 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I have been wondering for quite some time about what the relationships are for all the Shiiti political parties to Iran. I was listening to an interview this pm between Linsey Graham of South Carolina and a democrat named Reed on Fox News. Reed made the connection that all of the southern political parties in Iraq have some connections to Iran. Graham got quiet (I think he knows this fact is true) but he defended The Republican line of less interference from Iran on Iraq.

However, I am wanting to know what makes the other Shiiti political parties different from Sadr?. They all seem to have relationships to Iran.

I know the United States does not like Sadr. This has been clear from the beginning. In addition, Sadr does not seem to look about the interest of the people of Iraq and I would then to agree with Maliki that Sadr's Shiiti sect seems to use terrorist methods. However, what do we know about these other Shiiti political parties.

Reed, the democrat was implying that one sect is as bad as the other. I just do not believe I know enough about the other Shiiti political parties to know what makes them different from each other?. Reed made it plain that he believed the USA military was being set up in this fight between Shiiti parties.

Any thoughts on my questions?

Laura Parker

-- March 30, 2008 7:30 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Demand for dollar drops at daily auction

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Monday , 31 /03 /2008 Time 2:44:15




Baghdad, Mar 31, (VOI) - Demand for the dollar was down in the Iraqi Central Bank's auction on Monday, the first this as Sunday’s session was cancelled due to the curfew placed on Baghdad, registering at $35.190 million compared to $93.270 million on Thursday.

"The demand hit $4.690 million in cash and $30.500 million in money transfers outside the country, all covered by the bank at an exchange rate of 1,206 Iraqi dinars per dollar, a tick lower than the previous session," according to the central bank's daily bulletin which was received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
None of the nine banks that participated in the auction offered to sell dollars.
Ali al-Yasseri, a trader, attributed the low demand for the dollar in today's session to the tensions in Baghdad.
From Last week, followers of the Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr clashed with governmental forces in Baghdad and Shiite cities in southern Iraq, leading the security forces to impose curfew on six Iraqi provinces including Baghdad.
On Sunday, Sadr ordered his followers off the streets while government welcomed the move and partially lifted off the curfew in Baghdad.
The Iraqi Central Bank runs a daily auction from Sunday to Thursday, but yesterday’s session was cancelled as Baghdad was placed under curfew.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 31, 2008 9:52 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq refuses to endorse Arab summit statement for failing to condemn terrorism in the country

Iraq refused to endorse the final declaration of the Arab summit Sunday because it does not condemn terrorism in the war-torn country, a last-minute dispute at a gathering marred by Arab divisions.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- March 31, 2008 9:53 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

British and US forces drawn into battle for Basra
As the Iraqi army's assault on Shia militias in the city falters, the government's strategy is looking to be a dangerous gamble
By Patrick Cockburn

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31 March 2008 (The Independent)
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The US is facing a new crisis in Iraq that may determine the outcome of the presidential election, as American military forces are drawn into supporting the Iraqi government's faltering attempt to crush the main Shia militia.

A US warplane strafed a house in Basra killing eight civilians, including two women and a child, Iraqi police said yesterday. The house was in the city's Hananiyah district, which is a stronghold of the Mehdi Army militia of the Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

British forces became directly involved in the battle yesterday after artillery in the British headquarters at Basra airport fired on a mortar crew in the city. Previously, the British Army had limited itself to providing logistical and air support for the assault on the militia.

Last night, an indefinite round-the-clock curfew was imposed by Baghdad's military command in response to the latest skirmishes. "To defeat the terrorist groups, the outlaws and the criminal gangs, and to preserve the souls of our citizens, we extended the curfew in Baghdad indefinitely for people, cars and motorcycles," said a statement from the Iraqi security forces.

Five days after the start of the offensive ordered by the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, US military intelligence says that the Iraqi army holds less than a quarter of Basra, which has a population of two million. In east Baghdad, meanwhile, five hospitals have received 133 bodies and 647 wounded since the start of the fighting.

Mr Maliki's confident prediction that he would crush the Mehdi Army is turning out to be a dangerous gamble that is fast eroding his authority. It is damaging to President Bush, who had claimed the US "surge" had brought about a turning point in America's five-year-old war to pacify Iraq. Mr Bush had praised the offensive as showing that the Iraqi security forces, trained and supported by the US, could at last stand and fight on their own. So far, the gun battles in Baghdad and the Shia south of Iraq are providing evidence that exactly the opposite is true.

About 40 policemen handed over their weapons to the Mehdi Army in Sadr City. "We can't fight our brothers in the Iraqi Mehdi Army," one said. In another incident, a dozen police were shown on television handing over their guns and ammunition to Sheikh Salman al-Feraiji, Mr Sadr's chief representative in Sadr City.

The Iraqi interior minister, Jawad al-Bolani, yesterday urged police commandos to show "strength and courage" in the fight against Shia militiamen in Basra, but referred to "problems", which he said would be addressed after the battle.

US aircraft were also active in Baghdad but the US military only admitted to an air attack in the Khadamiyah district, where 10 were killed. The US said they were militants, though the area is not a Mehdi stronghold.

Mr Sadr told al-Jazeera TV yesterday that Arab leaders meeting in Damascus should support the "resistance" to US occupation. The leader of the most powerful political movement in Iraq draws his support from the Shia poor, while his rival, the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC), is supported by Shia clerics, merchants and property owners. The Sadrists-SIIC rivalry is behind the timing of Mr Maliki's Basra assault. Though he said it was aimed at all militias and illegal armed movements, the attack has only been against the Mehdi Army and not against the Fadhila party and the SIIC, which both control parts of the city. The SIIC is now the main support behind Mr Maliki.

The timing of this week's attack may also be explained by the decision this month, at the prompting of US Vice-President Dick Cheney, on a visit to Baghdad, to hold provincial elections. The US aim was to allow the Sunnis, who boycotted the last polls in January 2005, to win control of their provinces. But elections also threatened the SIIC's grip on councils in southern Iraq because the party has become increasingly unpopular and the Sadrists were expected to win at the polls.

So far Mr Sadr has not formally ended his ceasefire, declared in August last year and renewed in February. Ever since he fought the US marines in two battles in Najaf in 2004, he has been averse to direct military confrontation with the Americans or his Shia rivals when backed by the US. But as Mr Maliki's military offensive falters, his commanders are increasingly looking to the US and Britain for support. If US and British forces engage in direct military action on a wide scale with the Sadrist militia, then Mr Sadr could call for a general uprising, which would engulf all of Shia Iraq in war. The Mehdi Army already controls half of Baghdad.

The situation holds marked dangers for the 4,100 British forces at Basra airport. Their numbers are large enough to be a target, but not enough to tip the balance in the battle for Basra. If they become embroiled in street fighting, they will reinforce the impression among Iraqis that Mr Maliki is a pawn of the occupying powers.

Mr Maliki has said there will be "no retreat" and has boxed himself into a corner by ruling out compromise. Critics of US policy will attack the official picture of progress in Iraq as a mirage. Mr Sadr and the Mehdi Army could emerge from the crisis stronger than before.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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-- March 31, 2008 9:57 AM


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Basrah oil refinery resumed its operations

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An official at the South Oil Company said yesterday that the second largest oil refinery in Iraq resumed operations in Basrah after two days of interruption due to electricity blackouts.

The official added, "Electricity returned to Al-Shuaiba refinery and we are now working to return all units to production." He explained that the first refining unit that produces 75 thousand barrels per day of refined oil resumed its normal operations, but the two other units did not resume work yet. According to the Ministry of Oil, the refining capacity of the complex amounts to $160 thousand barrels of oil per day for the local market.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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-- March 31, 2008 11:03 AM


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Basra Calm as al-Sadr Pulls in Militia
March 31, 2008
Deutsche Presse-Agentur
Baghdad (dpa) - Relative calm was returning to Baghdad and Basra March 31 after radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr ordered his fighters off the streets, heralding an end to six days of fighting with government troops.

In Baghdad, Iraqi authorities lifted a three-day curfew from 0600 local time but a ban on vehicles remains in Shiite-dominated districts of Sadr City, Shula and Kazimiyah.

Al-Sadr ordered his Mahdi Army militia to stop fighting government forces and urged them to cooperate to stop "Iraqi bloodshed" and "achieve security."

The cleric, believed to be staying in Iran, called on the government to apply the general amnesty law, end random raids targeting his loyalists and release detainees.

The government welcomed the move but said the crackdown on "lawbreakers" would continue.

In Sadr City, a poor neighbourhood in eastern Baghdad, the local population is unhappy about the ban on vehicle despite the relative calm, the Voices of Iraq (VOI) news agency reported.

The district plunged into total darkness on the night of March 30.

American troops are still closing the area and preventing people from moving while setting up bases in some buildings, locals told VOI.

Local traders are unable to transport goods and food supplies because of the ban on vehicles, a local shop-owner said.

In Basra, Iraq's second largest city, an Iraqi army commander said the military presence was disappearing around the city.

"Security is returning to all areas in Basra. No security breaches have been recorded and military appearances are not seen on the streets," Gen. Mohammed Jawad, the commander of the 14th division, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

"Iraqi police and army are now removing landmines and explosives off the streets," the general said.

The Basra offensive is going ahead until all objectives are achieved, Jawad added.

Shops and markets were opening and vehicles could be seen amid a big troop deployment in the oil-rich city.

Estimates of the death toll since the outbreak of violence vary. As many as 250 people died and over 500 were injured in Basra, according to medical sources.

Iraqi police gave a death toll in Baghdad of 117 people.

Meanwhile the U.S. military reported in Baghdad March 31 that its troops killed more than 40 Iraqis in one day, including 25 "criminals" who attacked them.

On March 30, officials said, the Air Force killed 25 "criminals" that had previously attacked U.S. Soldiers.

Most of the deaths occurred during clashes between the Mahdi Army militia and combined U.S. Army and Iraqi government troops.

The military also said that one U.S. Soldier was killed by an explosive on March 30 north of Bagdad and another Soldier died from injuries he received Saturday from an explosive in Anbar province.

The army said that near Balad city on March 30 six policemen were killed by al-Qaeda terrorists who lured them into an ambush.
(www.military.com)

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-- March 31, 2008 11:05 AM


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Iraq's Army a Long Time 'Standing Up'
March 31, 2008
Associated Press
Iraq's new army is "developing steadily," with "strong Iraqi leaders out front," the chief U.S. trainer assured the American people. That was three-plus years ago, the U.S. Army general was David H. Petraeus, and some of those Iraqi officials at the time were busy embezzling more than $1 billion allotted for the new army's weapons, according to investigators.

The 2004-05 Defense Ministry scandal was just one in an unending series of setbacks in the five-year struggle to "stand up" an Iraqi military and allow hard-pressed U.S. forces to "stand down" from Iraq.

The latest discouraging episode was unfolding this weekend in bloody Basra, the southern city where Iraqi government forces - in their toughest test yet - were still struggling to gain the upper hand in a five-day-old battle with Shiite Muslim militias.

Year by year, the goal of deploying a capable, freestanding Iraqi army has seemed always to slip further into the future. In the latest shift, with Petraeus now U.S. commander in Iraq, the Pentagon's new quarterly status report quietly drops any prediction of when homegrown units will take over security responsibility nationwide, after last year's reports had forecast a transition in 2008.

Earlier, in January last year, President Bush said Iraqi forces would take charge in all 18 Iraqi provinces by November 2007. Four months past that deadline, they control only half the 18.

Responsibility for these ever-unfulfilled goals lies in Washington, contends retired Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton, who preceded Petraeus as chief trainer in Iraq.

"We continue to fail to properly resource and build the very force that will enable a responsible drawdown of our forces," Eaton told The Associated Press.

Retired Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, a West Point professor and frequent Iraq visitor, also sees insufficient "energy" in the U.S. effort. "Even now, there is no Iraqi air force; there's no national military medical system; there's no maintenance system," he told a New York audience on March 13.

The current chief trainer counters that his Multi-National Security Transition Command-Iraq, known as MNSTC-I, has made "huge progress in many areas, quality and quantity."

"But we're not free of difficulties," Lt. Gen. James Dubik told reporters on March 4.

A look back by the AP, as the Iraq conflict enters its sixth year, finds the $22 billion training effort has been a story of uncertain steps and policy reversals, corruption, questionable numbers and distrust, ending with an Iraqi military with narrow capabilities and years more "standing up" ahead.

The first reversal came even before the 2003 U.S. invasion, when the Pentagon discarded prewar plans that called for restructuring the 400,000-man Saddam Hussein-era army into a postwar force of 150,000 to 200,000.

Instead, U.S. occupation chief L. Paul Bremer ordered the old army disbanded, and the Bush administration opted for a token military force to guard Iraq's borders - an "afterthought," said Eaton.

"President Bush declared 'mission accomplished' on 1 May, and on 9 May I get a phone call, 'Get thee to Iraq and rebuild the Iraqi army.' I looked at my wife and she said, 'A little late for that.' You would have expected this to be an ongoing program," Eaton recalled.

The makeshift plan envisioned putting one 700-man battalion at a time through a nine-week training course - a rate that would have produced a mere 8,000 troops over two years.

Eaton persuaded Defense Department officials to raise that target to 40,000 troops by late 2004, but even that was a "patently inadequate force," says Ali Allawi, later Iraq's defense minister.

"Deep suspicions began to be harbored as to the true intentions" of the Americans, Allawi writes in his memoir, "The Occupation of Iraq."

Abdulwahab al-Qassab, a retired Iraqi major general who observed developments from a post at Baghdad University, contends the Americans never wanted to rebuild a solid Iraqi army.

"It wasn't welcomed by the Israelis, the Kurdish factions that used to fight the Iraqi army, and some of the Shiites," al-Qassab said in an interview.

Walter B. Slocombe, who was Bremer's chief defense aide, denied to the AP that Israel's interests influenced U.S. actions, but he and other U.S. officials have acknowledged that the animosity of Iraq's Kurds and Shiites to the old Iraqi army helped shape those early decisions.

As 2003 wore on, Vinnell Corp., the U.S. military contractor hired to do the training, proved unequal to the task. The first Iraqi battalion, graduating in October, quickly fell apart because of desertions, and the second battalion refused to fight against insurgents in Fallujah in April 2004. The Jordanian army, meanwhile, was asked to take over training Iraqi officers.

As of June 2004, when Bremer's occupation authority gave way to a sovereign Iraqi government, the military still numbered only 7,000 men, as the focus shifted to fielding Iraqi police. Paul Wolfowitz, deputy defense secretary, predicted - incorrectly - the Iraqis could soon "take local control of the cities."

The evolving training program, now a mixed U.S.-Iraqi effort, was plagued with problems. Petraeus' new MNSTC-I was slow to be staffed. Meanwhile, top Defense Ministry officials, including the minister, Hazem Shaalan, were methodically looting the procurement budget of at least $1.3 billion, Iraqi investigators allege. Shaalan, who denies the accusations, and most of the others left the country by mid-2005.

By then the Pentagon was reporting 60,000 "trained and equipped" Iraqi troops available, a number achieved only by integrating lightly armed national guard units into the army. American commanders "do not report reliable data" on training and equipping Iraqi forces, U.S. government auditors complained. By late 2005, the U.S. command had to acknowledge that only one of 86 Iraqi army battalions was ready to fight on its own.

The Iraqis still were not given artillery, big mortars or other heavy weapons. Iraq's political unpredictability and dangerous sectarian-political divides clearly made the Americans wary that heavy weapons might be turned against them, concludes Arab military analyst Nizar Adul Kader.

"This could have been one of the fears that Americans had to take into consideration," said Kader, a retired Lebanese major general.

Auditors also found that the training command kept such poor records on distribution of personal weapons to Iraqi soldiers that some may have been passed on to insurgents or anti-American militias.

When Sunni-Shiite hostilities exploded into a bloodbath in 2006 - up to 60 civilian killings a day in Baghdad alone - it exposed the unreliability of the Iraqi military, some of whose units, paralyzed by desertions and reluctant officers and troops, failed to back up U.S. operations.

The U.S. command's goals for a homegrown takeover of most Iraqi security slipped - from spring 2006, to late summer, and then beyond. In November 2006, the Pentagon forecast that all 18 provinces would come under Iraqi security control "in 2007."

Reviews in 2007, by a congressionally mandated commission, by Government Accountability Office analysts, by the Pentagon itself, found that Iraq's sectarian animosities had permeated and weakened army units, heavily Shiite and Kurdish. A civil war among Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni factions could shatter the military.

Last November, GAO auditors again sharply questioned Pentagon claims on the number of Iraqi battalions able to operate "independently," since such units often depend on U.S. fuel, ammunition and other supplies, American advisers and intelligence, and U.S. air support.

Desertions persisted. In its latest quarterly report, in early March, the Pentagon says some 197,000 military personnel have now been trained, but that number includes the equivalent of two divisions - 27,000 men - estimated to have gone AWOL in 2007. Some 224,000 police are listed as trained, including an unknown number who left their posts.

The Iraqi military's list of unmet needs remains long: artillery and modern armor; advanced communications and intelligence systems; a logistics network able to supply everything from food and fuel to transport and ammunition; combat hospitals; airpower.

"This is not a balanced fighting force," said al-Qassab, the retired Iraqi general. "It's only people armed with assault rifles and pickup trucks and they go and raid like a militia."

The Iraqis and Americans are working to make Iraqi logistics self-sufficient by mid-2009. But as for "fire support," training command spokesman Lt. Col. Dan Williams said, "heavier artillery is still a ways down the road."

Regarding Iraq's tiny air force, a handful of helicopters, old transports and light planes, "in my opinion, we were late to start on this," Air Force Maj. Gen. Robert R. Allardice told the AP last June, as he took over aviation training in Baghdad.

Today, as he leaves the command, Allardice confirms there are still no plans for modern jet fighters for the Iraqis, only small, propeller-driven attack planes.

Chief trainer Dubik, meanwhile, is troubled by a shortage of midlevel Iraqi officers. The Pentagon's March report says this shortage "will take years to close."

It looks like years, not months, will be the measure of progress. After a half-decade of war, Dubik says Iraqi defense officials don't expect to take over internal security until as late as 2012, and won't be able to defend Iraq's borders until 2018.
(www.military.com)

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Rob N.

-- March 31, 2008 11:07 AM


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This was posted on another forum, no link provided.
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By Carolyn Cohn

LONDON, March 31 (Reuters) - Long-term investors are keen to pick up Iraqi debt, looking beyond the day-to-day violence to a perhaps more promising future for the oil-rich country a decade from now.

Most investors are shunning risk globally. But these people are attracted by debt forgiveness from Iraq's creditor nations, some tentative signs of political stability, crude oil at more than $100 per barrel and unusually high sovereign debt yields.

Five years after the U.S.-led invasion and two years after Iraq sold a $2.7 billion global bond of restructured Saddam-era commercial claims, the country's debt prices have been rising.

An improving security situation has taken a turn for the worse again in recent weeks, with an upsurge in fighting between between government forces and militias loyal to anti-U.S. Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

But some investors are looking beyond such violence. They reckon they get ample compensation in annual yields for an outside risk of not getting paid back when bonds start to mature in 12 years' time. Although Iraq's sovereign bond matures in 2028, it starts paying principal in 2020.

"We are optimistic that things are moving in the right direction," said Turker Hamzaoglu, economist for Middle East and North Africa at U.S. investment firm Merrill Lynch, which recommends an overweight position in Iraqi debt.

"Despite this rise in violence in the south, the overall picture is quite benign from a security perspective and there is some upside potential for the bond."
The bond began trading in January 2006 at 69 cents on the dollar but dropped to around 55 cents in August 2007, just before a build-up of U.S. forces in Iraq known as the "surge", giving a record high yield above 12 percent.

But the price has since risen back above 70 and the yield has gradually fallen to 9 percent, its lowest in two years.

The bond is trading at 543 basis points over U.S. Treasuries , compared with 300 basis points for JP Morgan's index of emerging sovereign debt.

Iraq's spread is 30 basis points wider than a year ago. But broader emerging market spreads have nearly doubled in that period as U.S. Treasury yields have been depressed by demand from investors seeking safety from global financial turbulence.

Iraq's debt is performing more strongly than that of Middle Eastern neighbour Lebanon and fellow oil producer Ecuador, analysts said.

"Lebanon is similarly fragile but is much more indebted and Ecuador has a questionable track record in paying its debts. It has oil but is not benefiting as much as Iraq," said Stuart Culverhouse, chief economist at frontier emerging markets brokerage Exotix.

OIL, DEBT

Analysts point to a number of new factors working in Iraq's favour over the past few months, of which the most obvious is sky-high oil prices in excess of $100 per barrel.

"Foreign exchange reserves have risen more than anticipated because of the oil prices, which has helped a lot," said Bart van der Made, senior investment manager at ING Investment Management in the Hague, which holds the Iraq bond. "From a long-term perspective, we see Iraq has a good capability to repay the debt."

Foreign exchange reserves in Iraq are expected to total $34 billion this year, according to the International Monetary Fund, compared with $12 billion in 2005.
Russia's wrote off most of Iraq's $12.9 billion debt in February and signed a separate deal opening up Iraq to investment from Russian companies, including oil major LUKOIL. Bulgaria and the former Yugoslavia have also come to debt agreements in the past few months.

The Paris Club of 19 rich creditor nations agreed in 2004 to write off 80 percent of its around $40 billion debt to Iraq.

Most of that debt has already been written off, but a final 20 percent tranche is due to be written off at the end of the year, subject to compliance with an International Monetary Fund stand-by arrangement.

That is likely to go through, given the enthusiasm with which the IMF has greeted Iraq's progress. Iraq's GDP growth is likely to be over 7 percent, possibly higher, in 2008 and 2009, up from 1.3 percent in 2007, the IMF says.

Iraq also said earlier this year it was reopening a cash buyback of Saddam-era commercial debt claims.

"It's a good sign. They respect the Iraqis' debt and are willing to service it. They have the money for it, and more importantly, they have the will to do it," said Hamzaoglu.

However, Culverhouse said the price of Iraq's debt might not have much room to rise further, for now.

A bomb attack on a major Iraqi crude export pipeline near fighting in the southern port city of Basra this week slashed exports from the country by about a third.
"There is scope for the price to go up a bit further, given the strong liquidity position," Culverhouse said. "But maybe it will plateau for a little while because of the security situation".

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Rob N.

-- March 31, 2008 11:42 AM


Sara wrote:

Quite obviously, this article below bolsters the argument that if the US were to pull out of Iraq.. there would be chaos and civil war.. instituted and supplied by Iran.

The situation in Basra has proven that the Iraqis cannot stand on their own.. they NEED the US there. If it were not for IRAN now stopping the violence, the US would have to step in. The Iraqis cannot handle this on their own. Only McCain and no one else has a sane policy on Iraq and how to handle the situation there. The other two would hand the Iraqis over to a very bloody fate, as evidenced by this mini-trial balloon of what happens without the US there to back the Iraqi military up. It is in Iran's best interests for the US to pull out so they can take over or force the Iraqi government to do their bidding because this is, after all, a proxy war.

IRAN saw it in their interests to calm the violence, for now. After all, if it goes on and the US steps in.. everyone will say what I just did.. the Iraqis cannot stand on their own. And if enough people understand that.. they will understand there is only one person with a sane policy they can elect in the upcoming elections for President. Hence, Iran worked in its own best interests in stopping the bloodshed for now.. they stopped the violence now because they want the US to pull out (obviously), and making Iraq appear to be stable will allow the claim to be believed (somewhat) that the US does not need to be Iraq, and can pull out and everything will be fine.

They also pulled back from outright civil war because Iran was able to strongarm the Iraqi government into "concessions" to Iran to stop the violence.
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"the Iranians played a key role in hammering out the peace deal, boosting the Islamic Republic's influence among the majority Shiite community."

What exactly did the Iraqi government have to agree to in order to "hammer out a peace deal" with the Iranians? Whatever it was they have boosted the Iranian's influence in the deal, for sure. The Iranians have proved they can take control when they want to and the Iraqis cannot stop them. The Iraqis are acting as though the US were not there.. and caving in to the demands they are given.. knowing they may have to do so in the future if the US electorate puts one of Iran's favored candidate(s) into the Whitehouse - thus abandoning the Iraqi people to their fate at the hands of the aggressors next door - as America once did to another people group - the people of Vietnam.

Sara.

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Truce Calms Iraq, Weakens Prime Minister
Mar 31, 2008
By ROBERT H. REID /AP

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Rockets fell on the Green Zone and random machine gun fire rang out Monday in the southern city of Basra as Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr sought to rein in his gunmen after a week of battles that claimed about 400 lives.

The peace deal said to have been brokered in Iran calmed the violence but left al-Sadr's militia intact and Iraq's U.S.-backed prime minister politically battered and humbled within his own Shiite power base.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, had promised to crush the militias that have effectively ruled Basra for nearly three years.

But the ferocious response by al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, including rocket fire on the U.S.-controlled Green Zone and attacks throughout the Shiite south, caught the government by surprise and sent officials scrambling for a way out of the crisis.

The crisis enabled al-Sadr to show that he remains a powerful force capable of challenging the Iraqi government, the Americans and mainstream Shiite parties that have sought for years to marginalize him.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh welcomed al-Sadr's decision but told reporters Monday that no political group was above the law. U.S. and Iraqi officials insisted the operation was directed at criminals and rogue militiamen - some allegedly linked to Iran - but not against the Sadrist movement, which controls 30 of the 275 seats in the national parliament.

But well-informed Iraqi political officials said the Iranians played a key role in hammering out the peace deal, boosting the Islamic Republic's influence among the majority Shiite community. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

According to one Shiite official, the deal was struck after hours of negotiations in the Iranian holy city of Qom involving key figures in Iraq's major Shiite parties and representatives of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Two of the Iraqis present - Ali Adeeb and Hadi al-Amri - presented documents and photos which they claimed proved that al-Sadr's militia was receiving Iranian weapons, the official said.

Shiite-dominated Iran is believed to supply weapons, money and training to most Iraqi Shiite factions - a charge the Iranians deny.

The Iraqi officials would not elaborate on Iran's role, and efforts to contact Iraqi representatives who took part in the Qom meetings were unsuccessful.

Iran has been eager to maintain unity among Iraq's factious Shiites, believing that is the best way to ensure a pro-Iranian government in Baghdad.

"By all reports, Iran's role is not good," said Michael O'Hanlon, foreign policy expert at the Brookings Institution. "They're arming all groups. ...They want influence with everyone."

The outcome of the Basra crisis dealt a blow to the credibility of al-Maliki, who flew to the city last week to oversee the crackdown personally.

On Saturday, al-Maliki had promised "a decisive and final battle" and gave assurances he would remain in Basra until the militias were crushed. A key adviser to al-Maliki, Sami al-Askari, said the prime minister was expected to return to Baghdad this week.

With tensions easing, Iraqi government television reported that a high-profile official was released Monday evening four days after he was seized by gunmen from his east Baghdad home.

Tahseen al-Shiekhly serves as the civilian spokesman for the Baghdad military command and regularly appears before reporters to tout improvements in security.

In Basra, residents said by telephone that the city, headquarters of Iraq's vital oil industry, was generally calm except for sporadic explosions and machine gun fire.

Some residents, however, estimated that only about a quarter of the shops and businesses opened Monday because any people were apprehensive that the truce would hold.

"The whole situation is a big farce," said one resident, who gave his name only as Abu Mohammed, or father of Mohammed. "I think the situation will return to normal again but the problem will never be solved. Gangs, smugglers and corrupt people will go back to doing what they were doing before."

http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-03-31-12-48-44

-- March 31, 2008 5:26 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

If Al-Malaki is seen as weakened because of the battle for Basra, we may see a no confidence held by Parliment; leading to his down fall.

We may see the emergence of former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. It would not surprise me to learn both Al-Malaki and Al-Sadr coordinated the events in Basra to bolster the position of Al-Malaki.
Based upon you're article instead of being seen as a leader, Malaki has been weakened.

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Rob N.

-- March 31, 2008 5:52 PM


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Sadr thanks Mehdi army members 31/03/2008 22:51:00

Baghdad (NINA) – A statement issued on Monday, March 31, by Muqtada Sadr thanking members of Mehdi army for their patience, obedience, unity and defending their people and lands. The statement is the second in two days
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Hafiz declines to take part in facts-finding committee 31/03/2008 17:33:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The Independent MP Mehdi al-Hafiz has asked Monday to be excused from taking part in the facts-finding committee, investigating the recent armed violence breaking out in several provinces between the Mehdi army and security forces.
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Maliki decides when to return to Baghdad, says Dabbagh 31/03/2008 15:47:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Government Spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is the one to decide when to return to Baghdad. In a joint press conference Monday with head of troop mobilization department at the ministry of defence
(www.ninanews.com)

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-- March 31, 2008 5:54 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

How about the following article?
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Insurgent groups intend to assassinate Muqtada al-Sadr

31/03/2008

According to informed sources, the encyclopedia Rafidain that armed rebel groups in the Mahdi Army intends to assassinate Muqtada Al-Sadr.


And sources said that a group of leaders in the Mahdi Army showed great dismay of the statement of Muqtada al-Sadr on ending armed manifestations and the lifting of the hand for the combatants and allow the Government to arrest wanted.

The sources added that the group that met in a Sadr City homes in the Gaza 53 pm yesterday conferred among themselves about the future of the Mahdi Army and his military and that Muqtada al-Sadr does not represent the day after the trump card and interface possible hide behind it has become Bmzajith and contradictory decisions and hasty and volatile orders stumbling block to the army and the current projects must be liquidated, and the extradition of those who encourage leadership and wiser from or who would be Dutiful has social-Alsdrien.

And nominated group Murtada Sadr younger brother or to Muqtada al-Sadr, son of Mr. Jaafar Mohammed Baqer al-Sadr, who currently lives in Iran and the current leadership of the Mahdi Army.

And sources said that the group intends to assassinate Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq immediately after the re-entry from Iran and the assassination by poison or Mkracamh Muqtada bombing in Kufa, and uploads the government or the Americans or Altkfferin responsibility assassination and create chaos again.

It is noteworthy that the younger brother, Murtada al-Sadr to Muqtada suffers from an acute illness and may not be able to lead the trend in the event of the assassination of his brother, Muqtada al-Sadr.
And added that the divisions are looming larger on the horizon after Muqtada al-Sadr issued a statement yesterday.

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-- March 31, 2008 9:51 PM


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