Iraq Dinar Discussion October 2008

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Sara wrote:

Good news. :)

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Violence Declines Further in Iraq
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Violence in Iraq dropped further during the summer according to a Pentagon report released yesterday.

Overall, civilian deaths across Iraq declined 77 percent in the three months from June to August compared with the same period a year ago, with June recording the lowest monthly death rate on record since the war began, the report said. Sectarian killings increased slightly in July and August, but they remained 96 percent lower than for the same period in 2007, it said. For example, there were 26 ethno-sectarian deaths in Baghdad in the summer months -- in contrast to more than 1,200 in the same period last year.

Total attacks and other security incidents remained at their lowest levels since early 2004, even as the U.S.-led coalition withdrew thousands of troops.

"Security incidents are now at the lowest levels in over four-and-a-half years, instilling in the Iraqi people a sense of normalcy that permits them to engage in personal, religious, and civic life without an inordinate threat of violence," the report said.

Nevertheless, the report voiced concern over several problems that could rekindle violence among competing groups and upset the recent progress on security.

One major concern is the Iraqi government's delays in reintegrating the nearly 100,000 predominantly Sunni volunteer fighters known as the Sons of Iraq into the army, police or other jobs, it said.

Iranian influence in funding, training and arming militias is "the most significant threat to long-term stability in Iraq," the report found. It said many leaders of the Iranian-backed "special groups" fled to Iran after Iraqi and U.S. military operations began last spring in strongholds such as Basra, Baghdad and Maysan province. Those operations "inflicted heavy losses" on the special groups and the Mahdi Army militia of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, the report said. The report also said some Mahdi Army fighters are ignoring a call by Sadr to join a political movement and are instead forming "new, more lethal" special groups, which continue to receive Iranian aid.

"Whether recent security gains are long-term will depend, in part, on how these issues continue to develop," the report said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR2008093002783.html?hpid=sec-world

-- October 1, 2008 2:35 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq’s anti-corruption efforts receive boost from UN partners
Antonio Maria Costa

29 September 2008 – The United Nations today launched a five-year plan to help Iraq prevent and combat corruption, a key element in the Government’s efforts to rebuild the fledgling democracy after years of strife and misrule.

“In the past, Iraq’s national wealth was stolen, its public assets were squandered, and its common wealth was dished out to cronies of the regime. The anti-corruption system needs a complete overhaul,” said Antonio Maria Costa, Executive Director of the UN Office for Drugs and Crime (UNODC).

In the past, Iraq’s national wealth was stolen, its public assets were squandered, and its common wealth was dished out to cronies of the regime.

“By ratifying the United Nations Convention against Corruption (UNCAC) last March, the Government of Iraq demonstrated its commitment to fight corruption. The UN is providing the tools to do the job,” he added.

The new initiative, which will be carried out jointly by UNODC and the UN Development Programme (UNDP), is designed to strengthen Iraq’s main anti-corruption bodies, as well as promote greater cooperation among them through the Joint Anti-Corruption Council. A national anti-corruption law is currently being drafted.

Projects will focus on strengthening prevention, transparency, accountability and integrity in the private and public sectors, in line with the UN anti-corruption treaty.

“The aim is to put in place the legal framework and build capacity to deter corruption at all levels of government, improve internal and external oversight, and strengthen anti-corruption law enforcement,” said UNDP Country Director Paolo Lembo.

The programme, which will be partly funded with resources from the UN Iraqi Trust Fund, will also strengthen the capacity of Iraqi anti-corruption officials to prevent, detect and investigate money-laundering, and enable asset recovery.

“Under the old regime, billions of dollars were stolen from the Iraqi people. As a party to the UN anti-corruption Convention, it will be easier for the new Government of Iraq to recover those assets,” said Mr. Costa.

Tackling corruption is one of several commitments undertaken by the Government under the UN-backed International Compact for Iraq, launched in May 2007.

The Compact, a five-year national development plan, includes benchmarks and mutual commitments from both Iraq and the international community, all with the aim of helping the country on the path towards peace, sound governance and economic reconstruction.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=28346&Cr=Iraq&Cr1=

-- October 1, 2008 2:40 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq no longer poses threat to global peace and security, UN gathering hears

25 September 2008 – Iraq no longer jeopardizes international peace and security, given its successes in promoting national dialogue, consolidating security and improving relations with its neighbours, the President of the war-torn Middle Eastern country told the United Nations today.

“Advancements have been achieved on the ground due to ongoing national reconciliation activities, bringing forth the end of sectarian killings and the improvement of the security situation, coupled with the return of thousands of displaced families to their homes and the commencement of construction projects and the offering of services to citizens.”

The country’s security and military forces have greatly improved their ability to respond to gangs, militias and terrorist organizations, the President said. They have extended their successes beyond the capital Baghdad to Basra, Mosul, Diyala and other provinces.

The troops have also been replacing multinational forces in many parts of Iraq, most recently in Anbar. “The forces are also working to take over full responsibility to defend and preserve the democratic gains of our people,” he told delegates.

The Government acknowledges that much work remains to be done, and Mr. Talabani appealed to the world – and neighbouring countries in particular – for continued support.

In line with the new Iraqi constitution, the country has made strides towards “building good relations with neighbouring countries with common interests, while not interfering in their internal affairs, and relying on diplomacy and direct lines of communication and peaceful channels to resolve arising difference,” he said.

“Based on this, Iraq no longer threatens international peace and security, and therefore calls upon the international community to take steps towards removing Iraq from Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter,” the President added.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=28263&Cr=general+assembly&Cr1=debate

-- October 1, 2008 2:42 AM


Sara wrote:

QUOTE:

"...the Iraqis have essentially met all of the benchmarks that Congress imposed as signs of political progress."

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Iraqis pass provincial-election law
September 24, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Yet another milestone on political reconciliation has been met in Iraq. Earlier today, the National Assembly unanimously passed a law establishing provincial elections, one of the key indicators demanded by the US Congress to show progress in uniting Iraq under a democratic form of government.
The late agreement will likely push elections back to January:
QUOTE:

Iraq’s parliament has unanimously approved a provincial elections law after weeks of deadlock.

The lawmakers voted Wednesday in favor of the measure after overcoming an impasse due to objections over power-sharing issues in the province that includes the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.

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The Assembly decided to unlink the two issues by forming an ad-hoc committee to propose a settlement of Kirkuk. That allowed the parliament to address provincial elections directly, and the unanimous result indicates the unity among all of Iraq’s sectarian groups for provincial elections. That will finally allow local government to take some of the burden of management off of Baghdad and give tribes and communities a greater influence on day-to-day decisions, including rebuilding efforts.

In the larger overall picture, the Iraqis have done well to have come so far in a short period of time. Two years ago, Iraq was tearing itself apart in an orgy of violence and retribution. One year ago, many members of Congress refused to believe that the country could be saved. One year after Hillary Clinton called General David Petraeus a liar for reporting that the surge had shown progress, the Iraqis have essentially met all of the benchmarks that Congress imposed as signs of political progress. That’s an impressive turnaround.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/24/iraqis-pass-provincial-election-law/

-- October 1, 2008 2:45 AM


Sara wrote:

I thought it was good and worth noting. :)
This comment I felt was key:

The surge was just one reason for success in Iraq, said Brig Gen. John F. Campbell, the deputy director for regional operations at the J-3 on the Joint Staff. The surge was important, but so were the increased capabilities of Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi Awakening, though "you could argue the other two couldn't happen without the first," he said.

While acknowledging the Iraqi security forces and Awakening Councils, "you could argue the other two couldn't happen without the first." The US surge in forces was the critical lynchpin facilitating the other two happening. Without the US forces - without the surge - there would have been no success in Iraq.

This is something to remember when some say the surge had nothing to do with the success in Iraq and it was the Iraqis only themselves who did it.

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Coalition, Iraqi Surge Was Keystone to Success in Iraq
By Jim Garamone , American Forces Press Service
MichNews.com
Sep 10, 2008

WASHINGTON - At the end of 2006, Iraq seemed on the verge of a civil war.

Al-Qaida was inciting divisions between Sunni and Shiia Iraqis. The newly elected government seemed ineffectual. Militia groups roamed neighborhoods and intimidated those who did not agree with them.

More than 100 U.S. servicemembers per month were being killed in fighting in the country. Today, that number has dropped dramatically, thanks largely to the troop surge and a new strategy that senior military officials credit with laying the groundwork for success throughout Iraq.

U.S. officials understood the challenges in Iraq and studied ways to stabilize and improve the situation. Even after his party lost the November 2006 congressional elections, President Bush said there would be "no retreat" from American goals for Iraq.

Civilian and military officials debated, posited, proposed, tested and eventually adopted a new way forward for the effort in Iraq that came to be known as "the surge." Bush announced the surge on Jan. 10, 2007. The bare bones of the plan committed more than 20,000 Army and Marine combat troops to the fight. The plan was to concentrate the troops in Baghdad and Anbar province – the two most restive areas in Iraq at the time. Baghdad, with a population of around 7.5 million people, is the center of gravity for the country. Progress there, it was thought, would influence the level of violence around the country.

Bush said the surge, plus a new strategy, would give the Iraqi government the time to develop and grow. "If we increase our support at this crucial moment and help the Iraqis break the current cycle of violence, we can hasten the day our troops begin coming home," he said in a speech to the nation.

"I am of conviction that this military plan – properly part of the new political emphasis and new economic plus-up – can provide the success we are looking for," Marine Gen. Peter Pace, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee the day after Bush announcd the plan. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates – in office for less than a month at the time – agreed with the assessment.

"Your senior military officers in Iraq and in Washington believe in the efficacy of the strategy outlined by the president last night," Gates said to the House committee. "Our senior military officers have worked closely with the Iraqis to develop this plan. The impetus to add U.S. forces came initially from our commanders there."

In October 2006, 106 Americans were killed due to all causes in Iraq. In December 2006, the number rose to 112. In July 2008, the number of Americans killed was 13. Last month, 23 were killed.

The surge was just one reason for success in Iraq, said Brig Gen. John F. Campbell, the deputy director for regional operations at the J-3 on the Joint Staff. The surge was important, but so were the increased capabilities of Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi Awakening, though "you could argue the other two couldn't happen without the first," he said.

Campbell was the assistant division commander for the 1st Cavalry Division, which formed the core of Multinational Division Baghdad. He was in Baghdad from the start of the surge and left earlier this year.

The first of the surge brigades arrived in Baghdad from Kuwait in January 2007 – the 82nd Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade Combat Team. The soldiers went almost immediately into combat operations. Between then and June, four more brigades, a Marine expeditionary unit and two Marine battalions deployed to Iraq. Thousands of "enablers" – combat service and combat service support servicemembers – also deployed.

At the same time, the Iraqis were engaged in their own surge, which often is overlooked, Campbell said. The Iraqi surge was equally crucial to the turnaround in the country, the general noted, and the Iraqi military committed to sending nine battalions into Baghdad. This was a precarious commitment.

"In October [2006], the Iraqis had sent two battalions to Baghdad, and the experience was not good," Campbell said. Many Iraqi soldiers deserted upon hearing of the deployment; others ran at the first sign of trouble.

The coalition force focused on training the Iraqi forces prior to the surge. "They became more confident, better able to withstand pressure," Campbell said. "They could stand up in a fight. When these forces came into Baghdad as part of the Iraqi surge, they were much better trained, they had good [coalition] transition folks with them and were more confident."

The Iraqis planned to deploy the battalions to Baghdad for 90-day tours. In contrast, the coalition forces would be on the ground for 15 months.

"You need time on the ground, you need to develop relationships, you need to get to know the people," Campbell said. "They realized they needed more time to understand the ground, develop the relationships, meet the sheiks, meet the people, understand the leaders."

Ultimately, the Iraqi units stayed in place for six months, with others in place for a year.

The experience on the ground, working with U.S. forces, helped the Iraqi forces increase their capabilities. "Just being next to a U.S. soldier, they got better," Campbell said. "They wanted to look like our guys. They wanted to carry the same weapons. They wanted all the kit like we had. [They benefitted from] seeing how our guys handled themselves around people, around kids and the like."

More troops are important, but what really made the surge effective was the counterinsurgency strategy, Campbell said. The mission of counterinsurgency operations is to protect the population from attack and separate the vast majority of people from extremists.

"You have to get out and live with the people 24/7," Campbell said. "We weren't living on a big [forward operating base], going out and patrolling and then coming back to live."

The coalition units set up combat outposts and joint security stations in the neighborhoods of Baghdad – often in the places with the most attacks. The strategy in Iraq in 2006 was to "clear, hold, build" – clear the neighborhoods, hold them and then build in the neighborhoods so the people would see the benefits of peace.

But there were issues with the strategy, Campbell said.

"We could clear, no problem. We're the best at it in the world," he explained. "The problem was we didn't have the numbers to hold and protect the citizens of a city of 7.5 million people. We just didn't have the numbers of either coalition or Iraqis to do so."

The surge provided the numbers, and coalition and Iraqi forces went out into the neighborhoods. "When you are able to saturate them and stay there 24/7, and you live with the people, and they know you're going to be there every day, it makes a difference," the general said.

Baghdadis grew accustomed to having coalition and Iraqi troops around. They saw them day after day, and they started believing that the coalition and Iraqi soldiers would provide protection from al-Qaida terrorists or militias.

"Every day we stayed there living with them meant more people understood we were there for the long haul," Campbell said. "That brought the people around."

Iraqi citizens began phoning in tips or telling soldiers where the roadside bombs were or where the enemy weapons caches were hidden. They began turning in those people who murdered and intimidated them in the name of al-Qaida.

And the government and coalition units began pumping money and jobs into the regions.

Command and control of the Iraqi forces also helped improve the results of the surge. The Iraqis established the Baghdad Operations Center under the command of Army Lt. Gen. Abud Qabar.

"All the Iraqi army, all the national police and all the local police [operated] under his control," Campbell said. Before, Iraqi army units reported to the Iraqi Defense Ministry, and police units reported to the Interior Ministry.

"With the BOC, there was one chain of command and unity of effort," Campbell said.

The Iraqis increasingly planned and executed their own operations. Police and army personnel began working closely together, and this enabled the coalition to take troops from some more peaceful areas and place them in other areas where they could help improve security. This extended the reach of the surge, Campbell said.

The "Awakening," in which Iraqi sheiks began taking an active role in providing security, began in Anbar province, and quickly moved to Baghdad and its environs.

"There was rough going initially in Abu Ghraib and inside Ameriyah," Campbell said. Both areas are primarily Sunni, and al-Qaida wanted to keep them. The terror group had intimidated the citizens. The extremists tortured and killed hundreds of Iraqis in their campaign to control the neighborhoods. But the people in those areas were tired of violence, and they began following tribal elders and sheiks in cooperating with coalition and government forces.

It took time for the improvements in security to happen, Campbell said.

"We didn't have the final brigade combat team until June," he said. "And even then, there was heavy fighting. When you go into areas you've never been before, you expect higher casualties. And we got them."

In June 2007, the coalition faced tough casualties, but by August the attacks were beginning to subside. Even the Muslim observance of Ramadan – the month that ordinarily signals an increase in attacks – saw a drop.

"The surge allowed us to get control of areas, maintain control using Iraqi troops and police, and pump money and jobs into the economy," the general said. "It helped us link up with the sheiks and tribal leaders and push the Awakening process along."

In many parts of Baghdad today, markets are operating, doctors are practicing, children are learning and fathers are working. That would have been inconceivable in 2006, Campbell said.

"I saw the surge in the beginning, and when I left in December 2007 I had seen it turn Baghdad around," he said. "The surge was very successful and I could see the results. I would have told you maybe halfway into my tour that I would not have felt good about leaving. But later, I saw all the benefits. I thought we really gave the Iraqi people a fighting chance."

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21201.shtml

-- October 1, 2008 2:48 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq's Army grows in numbers and readiness
The U.S. military says that an increasingly capable Iraqi Army could assume primary combat responsibility by mid-2009.
By Tom A. Peter
September 15, 2008

Basra, Iraq - As violence has declined across Iraq, new recruits to this country's fledgling army are no longer sent directly from basic training to the front lines.

When the insurgency was at full bore and spectacular suicide bombings more commonplace, young and inexperienced soldiers were hastily dispatched to take on militants, often with disastrous consequences for the Iraqi Army.

But today it's a different story and Iraq has a much different Army.

"Prior to the last year or year and a half, the demand for combatants in Iraq was so great that troops would come out of basic training and be thrown more or less directly into combat and not be pulled out," says Stephen Biddle, a senior fellow for defense policy at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

At the same time that attacks have declined and key militant leaders have been killed or arrested, the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) has steadily grown. Overall, the ISF, which includes the Army, police, and all other military branches, has increased by 146,100 personnel, or roughly the total number of all US troops stationed in Iraq. Now, the ISF is 591,700 strong, according to US military officials.

"This huge size increase has given them enough people that they can now … afford more training before they throw people right onto the front lines, but even after they've been committed to combat they can now rotate battalions and brigades back out for formalized training," says Dr. Biddle.

The quality of the Iraqi military will be a key question for American politicians as they increasingly focus on whether to draw down US troops.

Even just a year ago, the state of the Iraqi military made such discussions a moot point. Inexperienced and laden with corruption, the military was in no position to replace coalition forces.

While there remain questions of how it will fare when US forces finally withdraw, the Army's growing size, experience, and even greater sectarian mix has many praising its capabilities.

When President Bush announced plans last week to bring home 8,000 US troops from Iraq, he said, "Iraqi forces are becoming increasingly capable of leading and winning the fight."

Over the summer, Lt. Gen. James Dubik, the former commander of coalition forces overseeing the training of the Iraqi military, told Congress that the Iraqi military should be ready to take control of primary combat responsibilities in the country by mid-2009.

In the early days of Iraq's security forces, Shiites dominated the ranks, leaving many Sunnis feeling disenfranchised and seeking the aid of insurgents for their own protection. The Army had essentially become the opposite of what it was under Saddam Hussein's control – a tool for enforcing Sunni Baathist dominance throughout the country.

Today, the sectarian blend of Iraq's security forces – 54 percent Shiite, 31 percent Sunni, and 15 percent Kurd – roughly resembles that of the nation, say US military officials.

"At first when I came to this brigade [in 2006], the entire unit was Shiite. There was only one Sunni," says Brig. Gen. Sabah Fadhil Motar al-Azawi, commander of the 26th Brigade. "After we succeeded in Ramadi in the fight against Al Qaeda and JTJ [Jamaat al-Tawhid wal-Jihad], I asked my division commander to give my brigade some soldiers and officers from Ramadi [a predominately Sunni city]."

Now, General Azawi says, his unit is a 40 percent Sunni.

For the time being, Iraqi leaders say they're doing their best to keep sectarian issues from resurfacing.

"If I see someone who wants to make an issue about the differences between Sunnis and Shiites, I stop him, and explain that we are here to fight and arrest the people who are making problems for Iraq. I tell them that we are all brothers and we are not different," says Sgt. Maj. Ali Ouda, an enlisted leader in the 26th Brigade.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0915/p06s01-wome.html

-- October 1, 2008 2:54 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq says does not need U.S. financial aid
By Mohammed Abbas Reuters -
Monday, September 15 2008

NAJAF, Iraq (Reuters) - Iraq does not need any financial aid from the United States, the government spokesman said, in the wake of criticism from some U.S. politicians that Washington is paying too much towards Iraq's reconstruction.

Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, U.S. taxpayers have paid $48 billion (27 billion pounds) for stabilisation and reconstruction in Iraq, a congressional report said last month, adding Baghdad had spent little of its growing oil revenues on rebuilding infrastructure.

"I think we are in a position now not to ask for financial aid from anybody, even the United States," government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters at the weekend in the holy Shi'ite city of Najaf.

"I think we have enough money to spend and we are not in need of any money in the future."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080915/tpl-uk-iraq-aid-c3c492c.html

-- October 1, 2008 2:55 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iran's influence? You can hear it on Iraqi streets

Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:39am BST

By Mohammed Abbas

NAJAF, Iraq, Sept 30 (Reuters) - In the holy Iraqi Shi'ite city of Najaf, Iranian tourists throng the streets, speak to shopkeepers in Farsi and pay in Iranian money. Farsi chants blare from speakers at a nearby shrine.

The scene would probably horrify both the United States and Iraq's Sunni Arab neighbours, who suspect Shi'ite non-Arab Iran of nefarious and subversive influence in Arab lands. Even some of Najaf's citizens are wary of Iranian leverage.

But the city, a centre of religious and political power in Shi'ite-majority Iraq, benefits from Iranian tourism and aid.

The uniforms of rubbish men sport Farsi inscriptions, as do their gleaming new Iran-donated rubbish trucks. Iranian builders toil at the site of a new Iranian-sponsored hospital.

Iranian donations pay for the renovation of Shi'ite holy sites, and Iran has offered cash and expertise to boost electricity capacity in Iraq's Shi'ite south.

Each year hundreds of thousands of Iranian pilgrims visit Najaf's shrine of Imam Ali, one of the most important figures of Shi'ite Islam.

Najaf officials, up for re-election in provincial polls expected early next year, play down Iranian influence.

"Do you see Iranian councillors? Iranian police? ... There is no influence at all," Najaf provincial governor Assad Abu-Gelal said in a recent interview in the southern city.

But ordinary residents say Iranian influence is there, and they don't necessarily mind.

"There's an Iranian hand in Najaf, but it's a positive hand. They've help develop the city, the hospital, the tourism," said Hussein Abbas, who works in a Najaf toy shop. The province's current administrators will get his vote in the provincial elections, he added, despite the whiff of Iranian backing.

SWORN ENEMIES

Iraq and Iran were sworn enemies under Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Arab dictator who launched a ruinous eight-year war with Shi'ite Iran in the 1980s in which 1 million people died, many Iraqi Shi'ite conscripts.

But since U.S. troops overthrew Saddam in 2003 and a Shi'ite led-government came to power in Baghdad, Iran has conspicuously shown off its clout, partly through its ties with Shi'ite politicians and parties that were based in Iran for years during the rule of Saddam.

In March this year, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made a triumphant visit -- becoming not only first Iranian leader to visit Iraq since the 1980s, but also the first regional head of state to visit since the U.S.-led invasion.

Iran has had a full-service embassy in Baghdad for years, while no Sunni Arab state had an ambassador in the Iraqi capital for three years until this month.

Washington -- Tehran's arch enemy for 30 years -- accuses Iran of supplying Shi'ite militants in Iraq with arms, training and cash, accusations Tehran denies.

Almost all of oil-rich southern Iraq's provincial councils, including Najaf, are dominated by the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (ISCI), a Shi'ite political group formed in exile in Iran during Saddam's reign.

Many Iraqis, including Shi'ites, say ISCI is still backed by Iran. Yet ISCI is also a key part of Iraq's U.S.-backed government, and strongly denies Iran directs its policies.

"ISCI was in Iran. And from Iran we went to Washington. Iran has no ties to America. It's at political war with it," said Najaf deputy governor and ISCI member Abdul Hussain Abtan.

"We allow for good relations with Iran, but built on mutual respect, and not interfering in each other's affairs."

CLEAR AS THE SUN

Iraqis bristle at the prospect of their politicians taking Tehran's orders.

"We love the tourists, but if (Iran) tries to take part in politics, we'll fight it. And it is clear as the sun that they are," said Karar Kadham, sitting outside the Imam Ali shrine.

But he praised ISCI's leadership in the city and predicted most Najaf residents would vote to keep the party in power.

Majid Ali, a clothes shop owner, was careful to distinguish between Iranian cultural and political influence, saying Najaf city has had trade and religious links with Iran for centuries.

But he said he would not vote in local or national polls because Iraq's political leadership was "constrained" by Iran.

"Iran's aim is clear. To counter U.S. influence. They're facing the United States and the Arabs on the Iraqi stage," he said, before breaking off for a phone call in Farsi.

Ali Abshar, an Iranian pilgrim in Najaf, said he felt comfortable in the city, and that it was just like the Iranian city of Qom, Shi'ite Islam's other main seat of learning. He had no hard feelings over U.S. demonisation of his country.

"Americans came and got rid of Saddam," he said, holding two thumbs up and grinning.

(Editing by Peter Graff and Samia Nakhoul)

-- October 1, 2008 5:52 AM


mattuk wrote:

Sadr City slowly comes back to life

By Mike Sergeant
BBC News, Sadr City, Baghdad

Local boys have been enjoying the newly refurbished Mithaq Pool in Sadr City.

The streets of Sadr City are slowly coming back to life.

Within minutes of getting out of a heavily armoured vehicle, we are surrounded by laughing children.

Some are playing table football on the pavement. Others are trying to jump into every shot we film for our television report.

A public swimming pool has just re-opened - the first in this neighbourhood of the Iraqi capital. It is for boys only, but at least they get the chance to cool off.

Screaming with delight, they dive, jump and splash into the water. This is a side of Baghdad you rarely get to see.

Business grants

Violence has left its scars all over Sadr City. On the main streets, there are bullet holes and burnt-out buildings everywhere.

Security has, though, improved dramatically in recent months.

There are a lot of people who don't like us, but as far as the enemy goes, they have mostly moved on.

Earlier this year, Iraqi and US forces took part in a huge offensive. The militias melted away.

The Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr - who along with his Mehdi Army was one of the biggest thorns in the US military's side - called a ceasefire.

Since then, the streets have been much less dangerous for US soldiers. But anti-American feelings are still strong.

"There are a lot of people who don't like us," says US army Sgt Derryl Haidek. "But as far as the enemy goes, they have mostly moved on."

His men spend most of their days handing out business grants rather than battling insurgents - a sign of progress.

Shopkeepers can be given up to $2,500 (£1,390) for repairs or improvements. It is one way to ensure a less hostile reception.

Lingering fear

The residents of Sadr City are angry about the dire state of public services - the lack of electricity and clean water are the perennial complaints. But people feel much safer now.

A supporter of Moqtada Sadr holds up a poster of him,
Moqtada Sadr has not said whether his Mehdi Army will eventually disarm.

"The number of killings and kidnappings has dropped," says Atheer Jabbar, one shopkeeper. "There are no threats to us anymore".

US commanders say the Mehdi Army has been pushed out of Sadr City. But there is a lingering fear the militias are simply hiding and waiting to fight another day.

I asked Qusay Abd al-Wahhab, a member of the Sadrist block in the Council of Representatives, whether Mr Sadr had been defeated.

"No, not defeated. He has simply suspended his operations," he said.

Mr Abd al-Wahhab said the insurgency could quickly resume if his leader gave the order.

The real strength of Mr Sadr's supporters as a military force is one of the big unknowns in Iraq today.

The Mehdi Army seems diminished. Mr Sadr himself spends most of his time in Iran, but he still has huge political and religious influence in parts of the country.

The fighting could resume if US troops withdraw rapidly from places like Sadr City, or if the US announces an intention to stay for many years.

US troops have built a barrier in Sadr City to reduce sectarian violence.

Whilst highly sensitive negotiations on the future of coalition forces continue in Baghdad, troops on the ground are trying to hold on to the recent gains in security. But they have come at a price.

US troops have built a barrier which cuts Sadr City in half.

The residents of this poor, battered enclave now find themselves almost entirely surrounded by concrete walls.

Life is far from normal here - even if people are starting to feel a little more hopeful.

-- October 1, 2008 6:11 AM


CarlWe h wrote:

Sara!
Regarding your post about being right...Like you, I wish I was now looking foolish for projecting such things...but the real truth is the Arab League Of Nations has failed the world and thus it appears we may be reaping the whirl wind of the failure to control Iran...
The leader of Iran is continuing to make dire threats of Israel...these threats are made for a purpose...1. To unite the Arabs ...2. To unite under the Islamic Banner ...3. To poke and prod a fight...they want to be attacked...

The US has silently massed a huge aircraft force just off the coast of Iran...this was done for a purpose...you can decide what that purpose is...show or actual force, I really don't know...but I can tell you, that Iran does not have long to do some back peddling, which I believe will not come...
I saw a article the other day, that stated, if the Meltdown bill does not pass...President Bush will be forced into a situation that he really does not want to take but feels it is necessary to save the economy...This particular writer stated the dates between Oct 7th and Oct 15th was the range to watch for...
It will interesting to see if anything significant happens during that period....


-- October 1, 2008 7:19 AM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Carl, for the reply on my post. :)

Things are looking pretty grave with that situation, and of course, a war with Iran will involve Iraq, and so the fate of the Dinar. I still think the first shot to commence hostilities is in the hands of Israel, and they will hold off doing anything militarily until November. I also believe that the bailout deal will be done. Right now, they are saying the markets are doing fine, why bother? The news continues to say that no meltdown has happened.. this is nothing but "Chicken Little" and a bogus threat of collapse. But the reason the markets have not given up the ghost or faltered terribly is the incredible infusion of cash which CENTRAL BANKS have given to prop it up until America gets the bill approved. We teeter on the brink of a very, very deep abyss.. with uninformed conservatives unable or unwilling to see that President Bush is right that there are exceptions even to the conservative view of non-interference in the markets.

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Central banks pump in $620bn as shares plummet
Gary Duncan, Robert Lindsay
September 29, 2008

Central banks around the world unveiled a plan to pump massive amounts of cash into the global banking system in a concerted effort to boost market confidence and inject liquidity into the global markets.

The move followed a fall in the Dow Jones of nearly 300 points in morning trade to 10,869 as the market took fright at several bank nationalisations in Europe and the US despite the approval of the "son of Tarp" — the Troubled Asset Relief Programme —bailout. The FTSE 100 index of leading shares was down almost 5 per cent, taking it to a new low for the year and below the psychologically significant threshold of 5,000.

As nine central banks used currency swaps to oil the wheels of dollar liquidity in the money markets, sterling plunged and was on course for its steepest one-day drop against the dollar for at least a decade and a half.

This was in response to the nationalisation of Bradford & Bingley (B&B), the stricken UK mortgage bank, which fuelled markets' fears over Britain's battered banking sector and the fallout for its economic prospects.

In the US, the Dow Jones fell nearly 300 points in morning trade to 10,869 as the market took fright at several bank nationalisations in Europe and the US despite the approval of the "son of Tarp" — the Troubled Asset Relief Programme —bailout.

US Treasury debt staged a meteoric rally as investors scrambled for the safe haven of American government securities. The 30-year Treasury bond’s price rose more than three points. The flight to safety was even after the Federal Reserve said it would substantially increase currency swap limits to $620 billion (£342 billion ) with nine leading central banks in response to short-term strains in the money markets.

In its latest severe sell-off, the already sharply weaker pound plummeted by almost 5 cents against the dollar today compared with its level at the close of New York trading on Friday.

The fall of more than 2.5 per cent in sterling saw it tumble from $1.8445 to levels below $1.80, taking it to a 10-day low of $1.7962. The pound has now shed almost 11 per cent against the greenback from peaks above the watershed of $2 reached at this time last year.

The price of Brent crude fell more than $5 a barrel to $98.05, its lowest level for almost six months.

Markets were anxious about Britain's fast deteriorating economic outlook and the stability of its banking sector as B&B followed Northern Rock in being nationalised. The worries followed the fire sale of HBOS, the nation's biggest mortgage lender to Lloyds TSB, and led to the London stock market succumb to a fresh hammering of its leading shares.

The FTSE 100 index of British blue chip stocks closed down by 253 points, or 4.97 per cent, taking it below the psychologically significant threshold of 5,000 to 4,835.45 and to a new low for the year, down 28 per cent from the 6,730.71 level it reached on October 12, 2007.

The steep sell off of sterling and London shares came as agreement reached on Capitol Hill on a proposed $700 billion rescue plan for the US banking system was overshadowed by the latest woes for British and continental European banks. As well as B&B, the Belgian, Dutch and Luxembourg Governments nationalised parts of Fortis, the European banking and insurance giant, and agreed to inject €11.2 billion into the group.

Iceland's government also took control of Glitnir, that country's third biggest bank.

Analysts said the developments switched attention back to the international nature of the banking and financial upheavals spawned by the credit crisis.

"I think there has been a very lax attitute over the last couple of weeks ... [suggesting] it's been seen as a purely US-centric problem," Jeremy Stretch, of Rabobank, said.

"We've gone from a piecemeal response in the US to something more substantive with the bailout package. Whether it works or not is a different matter."

The euro also fell heavily against the dollar amid concern over the eurozone's banking strife and the adequacy of arrangements for bank rescues in the 15-nation bloc. The euro lost as much as 1.8 per cent against the dollar, falling to levels of about $1.4340 from a US close of $1.4613 on Friday.

Tokyo’s Nikkei 225 index was down 1.3 per cent at 11,743.61, and Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index shed 2.1 per cent to 18,286.90.

“They’re worried that another fire is starting in Europe,” said Castor Pang, an analyst at Sun Hung Kai Financial in Hong Kong.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article4844255.ece

-- October 1, 2008 9:11 AM


Sara wrote:

If you didn't see this one, it is worth watching and remembering those who sacrificed to make this Iraqi victory possible.

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Vets for Freedom ad: Acknowledge our victory!
August 26, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Vets for Freedom has a new ad released that demands acknowledgment from Democratic Party officials that the surge succeeded in stabilizing Iraq. VFF makes the lack of recognition personal in this spot, with Iraq War veterans making the point that they comprised the surge, and that they deserve the recognition that comes with victory:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wM5BEBtS_8

QUOTE:

Vets for Freedom Chairman Pete Hegseth, a decorated former Army infantry platoon leader in Baghdad, said in a statement: “Vets for Freedom will not stand by and let the incredible progress of our troops go unnoticed by the American public and lawmakers from either side of the aisle.

Hegseth is at the convention to tell lawmakers, delegates and the press about his observation during a recent return to Iraq.

“It is essential that our top legislators — regardless of party — understand the importance of victory in Iraq, the consequences of defeat and the success of the surge,” Hegseth said. “Sen. Obama has said that he would still oppose the surge if given another opportunity and has pointed to every outside factor but the surge to explain improvements in Iraq. We hope he will listen to the veterans who have served there and support this important resolution for the sake of the troops.”

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VFF focuses on one particular Democrat in their pursuit of recognition: Barack Obama. Even the New York Times reports that the surge “clearly” has succeeded; why can’t Obama? Just as clearly, any acknowledgment that the surge succeeded would serve as an admission that Obama got it wrong in January 2007 and continued getting it wrong ever since.

In other words, political considerations outweigh the truth for Barack Obama, and outweigh the right these veterans have to the recognition not just of their service, but of their victory.

You can add your voice to the Vets for Freedom effort to have the people who would command our military acknowledge the fruits of their efforts by calling or writing Obama and other Democrats.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/26/vets-for-freedom-ad-acknowledge-our-victory/

-- October 1, 2008 9:17 AM


Sara wrote:

And this one:

Vets for Freedom ad: Recognize the victory, Senator Obama
September 17, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Vets for Freedom has a new television spot that will air soon in selected markets. Called “Petraeus vs Obama”, the ad juxtaposes several statements by both men that demonstrate rather clearly that General David Petraeus had told the truth about the surge from his earliest statements, while Obama refused to recognize the success of the mission:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJYiQnm1xBs

The VFF compiled a helpful list of Obama’s statements rejecting the success of the surge. In some cases, he refused to acknowledge any improvement in Iraq at all, and in later examples gave credit for the improvement to others, rather than the American soldiers who fought and defeated the terrorists. Many of these statements make it into the ad itself, but frankly, they had too many examples to include them all, so be sure to read the document.

The ad wants Obama to vote in favor of Senate Resolution 636, which would explicitly recognize the success of the surge and thank the men and women who won the victory.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/vets-for-freedom-ad-recognize-the-victory-senator-obama/

-- October 1, 2008 9:21 AM


Sara wrote:

Giving credit where it is due.. this is definitely worth repeating.
The imminent victory in Iraq - AND,
the vets for freedom vying for acknowledgement of that fact.

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Return to Samarra: Imminent Victory in Iraq
August 31st, 2008
by Gary Larson
Vets for Freedom (VFF) revisit former battle stations in Iraq . . . and find victory is at hand. Not good news for the defeatists and news media.

It has mostly vanished from front pages, a battle nearly won — at least in Iraq, with more to do globally and in Afghanistan. News on inside pages now tell of homicide bombers' attacks by young females, so desperate is al Qaeda. But it is mostly quiet on the Iraq Front. Unless capitulation as sought (yet!) by the irresolute, victory is at hand.

Reason for popping the cork? Not yet. But indisputably, the U.S.-led coalition is winning. Even the well-meaning anti-war crowd (as opposed to “crazies”) might not like to admit it's close to over, and how that must hurt that cut-and-run crowd. Shall we all shed a tear for them?

False premises abound. Slogans such as “He Lied Us Into War” and “No WMDs” and the granddaddy of them all, “No Blood for Oil!,” take the place of cold hard logic and stubborn fact. Whoppers, yes, but like most mindless slogans of a ranting mob, these are articles of faith for the myopic, usually intensely partisan anti-war clique.

Truth be told, success leaves the anti-war folks a rather gloomy bunch. Think of the America First supporters after Pearl Harbor, when reality hit, and the turncoat Copperheads during the Civil War. Short-sighted losers all, selling their nation and its military short, they became intractable prisoners of a limited worldview, a sort of time warp, suffering from vision impairment. Like that “S” word on bumper stickers, it happens.

Winning battles is somehow bad news also to mainstream American media (MSM). Many a liberal Democrat and their media allies are reluctant to acknowledge imminent victory, let alone celebrate it. Today a fragile, hard-won new democracy exists in Iraq. Bad news?

Silence of the left-liberal class suggests an unwillingness to admit they were wrong. Big fat egos get in the way, and the baggage of past utterances. Nay-sayers even to coalition's surge, a most logical thing, the vision-impaired folks insist, as did their hero John Kerry, this war is the “wrong war,” at the “wrong time” and “unwinnable.” Oh?

Imagine a bloodless, 100% politically correct war, and a splendid time for one. Try never? In this case, a regime which shot at UN aircraft, ignored UN sanctions, subsidized terror elsewhere, provided shelter for al Qaeda, invaded and raped its neighbors, murdered its Kurds, etc., brought it on. The Saddam-led force was sworn to evil. Remember Iraqi SCUDS raining down on Tel Aviv? Opera-goers going to concerts with gas masks on their belts? Like the horrors of 9/11, how soon we forget. Contrast this to World War II when the rallying cry was “Remember Pearl Harbor!”

Accepting defeat willingly, putting down our nation's military as inept or worse, as criminal, is emblematic of the new hard Left. To those doggedly pessimistic, “Amerika” can do no good. The tawdry blame-America syndrome strikes. It seems to pop up in every generation. Could it be, ah, a result of the nation's educational structure? Just a not-so-wild speculation, that . . .

Such negativism, such passivity in the face of darkness, would trump the requisite war victory, possibly with an eye to the next election cycle. Laying down one's arms would leave the field open to enemies by declaring neutrality rules. Shameful, yes, but hardly new. Such cowardice, shall we say?, in the face of evil, can come back to bite the rear-ends of the peace-at-all-cost types.

Devilishly shrewd Machiavelli described it this way in 1513: “One who is not your friend will want you to remain neutral. Irresolute princes, to avoid present dangers, usually follow the path of neutrality, and are mostly ruined by it. (The Prince at Chap. 21). Who needs Nostradamus?

House Speaker Nancy (“Save the Planet”) Pelosi and nasty slanderers of our military, such as Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) and Dick Durbin (D-IL), tried their damnedest to bring the troops home in ignoble defeat, leaving the field to the enemy, and good Iraqis dangling in the wind.

When the “pull out now” stance of the anti-war crowd is pointed out, or even hinted at, their sole refuge is to hide behind a claim that they are being labeled unpatriotic, not truly American. It's a bogus claim. How about calling them . . . naive? Geopolitically challenged? Clueless? Obtuse?

Against this dreary backdrop, a patriotic group of ex-Iraq and Afghanistan war vets is seeking to showcase imminent victory in Iraq. Their message goes largely ignored by the liberal MSM, not really a surprise, considering the selective reporting and liberal-left agenda pushing.

They call themselves Vets for Freedom (VFF). Theirs is a non-partisan group out to set the record straight about where they served, in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are led by U.S. Army Capt. Peter Hegseth, a decorated combat veteran from Minnesota and a Princeton University grad ('03).

Hegseth and other VFFers returned this summer to their former duty stations. Hegseth went back to Samarra, Iraq. What he found and reported on did not get a lot of ink back home, or air time, with a few exceptions. (C-Span interviewed him!) Blogs, bless them, reported extensively on his and colleagues' return to war zones. Thank God for responsible blogs's truth-telling.

“What I’ve seen in Samarra,” Hegseth writes, “and [what's] happening throughout Iraq, is enough to make Americans of either party proud. After years of getting it wrong — or at best, only partly correct — today we are winning the war and setting the conditions for an enduring peace in that country, even in perpetual al Qaeda cesspools like Samarra.

“Faced with a determined enemy, hell-bent on bringing America to her knees in Mesopotamia, American military will, its adaptability, and might, are carrying the day,” he writes at the well-designed VFF blog. (Check it out at www.vetsforfreedom.org.)

To those who say al Qaeda was not in the forefront, he responds: “I challenge anyone to walk the streets of Fallujah, Baqubah, Samarra, or elsewhere in Iraq, and tell the locals that their city — their neighborhoods — have NOT been al Qaeda battlefronts.

“Every Samarran I spoke with — every single one — brought up al Qaeda, pronouncing the name with a guttural disdain distinct in Iraqi accents. Most have had a family member killed by al Qaeda’s indiscriminate tactics, and have no desire to live in their seventh-century fantasy world.

“A few months ago, a raid south of Samarra uncovered the primary administrative hub for al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). The bunker complex — piled high with medical records, travel documents and pay stubs — was where foreigners were sent before receiving their suicide assignments. Al Qaeda literature and videos littered the underground headquarters.”

(Why wasn't this data-rich raid given more attention in MSM? Did it not fit a preconception?)

Party-line defeatists argue Iraq is a “distraction” from the real war. (Afghanistan apparently is the real deal.) One-sided war critics also claim, without evidence, that the presence of coalition forces perpetuates new-breed hatred for Americans, thereby creating more radical Muslim jihadists.

But Michael Moore's lie-laced 9/11 film probably produced more hatred, and it's drawing SRO audiences lapping up his anti-American, Bush-hating diatribe in Middle East cinemas. (One wonders how many U.S. “troops” Moore has killed or maimed by his anti-American rhetoric. That question is off the table to Democrats, who attended its premier in droves, and the MSM. Shhh.)

Peacekeeping? In Iraq? Who said anything about that? Soldiers serving are more than tolerated for the peace they bring to once-embattled neighborhoods, reports Hegseth. Some GI's are adored, and given spartan gifts, for bringing peace and hope to reclaimed neighborhoods. In some places they are now celebrated as heroes, a dastardly fact the MSM are loathe to report.

As to “distraction,” anti-war pundits have it backwards, argues Hegseth. “Iraq has actually proven to be a distraction for al Qaeda,” he says. On the run, losing badly, it throws the evil-doers off track. How many lives have been saved by al Qaeda attacks NOT executed in Iraq and elsewhere? That will be forever a matter for speculation — another question the anti-war mavens would prefer not engage.

Hegseth calls al Qaeda's decision to go full-bore into Iraq in 2003 a “strategic blunder.” His assessment is validated by intercepted letters between al Qaeda leaders. They bemoan their huge losses, their loss of control. This fact, too, gets scant mention in MSM.

It would have been a “strategic blunder” if coalition forces were withdrawn before victory, in accordance with some politician's timetable. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory would seem especially stupid to some, but not to the anti-war freaks.

Some still naively insist, Hegseth observes, that if we left Iraq high and dry — but not, for some inscrutable reason, Afghanistan — everything will be hunky dory. And the tooth fairy exists?

What particularly bothers Hegseth (and yours truly) is “the self-aggrandizing notion that opposing the Iraq war then [at the beginning] automatically devalues the importance of the endeavor today.”

A member of the New York National Guard, Capt. Hegseth stresses the incongruity of the war critics' stance with today's reality: “Today’s hardcore Iraq war detractors — politicians, pundits, polemicists alike — all use the same lines of argument to smear the importance of the Iraq war at every turn.”

“My experiences in Samarra,” he adds, “and facts of the new counterinsurgency strategy [of General Patrias, or “General Betrayus” to the anti-military Left] directly refute this. As we have surged into neighborhoods — to protect the Iraqi people, earning their trust, and benefiting from their help — violence has dropped, and locals have turned against the jihadists.”

Terrorist and weapons caches are being singled out by local Iraqis now, reporting to coalition forces to scoop them up. The decline in violence may not sit well with war protesters, or enhance their candidates' chances, but it's quite true. Even The New York Times says so, and every fair-minded person knows its stridently anti-war, anti-”W” bias.

Reluctantly, some anti-war pushers are brought kicking and screaming to a realization “we” (now including them, as Johnny-come-Latelys) are winning. Still puzzled, though, by “our” war aims, they continue to pile on the administration they so despise (hate is not too strong a word), which merely spared the nation of another 9/11. Such is the nature of true irony.

Thanks to political courage and military will and self-sacrifice, Americans can, if they will, take pride in victory in and for 25 million Iraqi citizens and, coming later with NATO help, victory also in mountainous Afghanistan. Freedom is not free, we are constantly reminded, by combat deaths and the wounded, and the immense debt. But then, freedom never did come on the cheap.

The world is watching. “Whether Americans like it or not,” Pete Hegseth concludes: “What ultimately happens on the streets of Samarra — militarily, politically, economically — will reverberate through the Middle East and the world. Will our allies and our enemies see a strong America that wins its wars and stands by its friends?” Or not? Aye, that is the question.

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Author's note: Vets for Freedom's efforts to tell Americans about their realities of war in Iraq and Afghanistan have not been much reported. Capt. Peter Hegseth's VFF was denied an educational platform even in his hometown, Forest Lake, Minnesota. At the 11th hour the local American Legion post stepped forward to give local citizens an opportunity to hear from the touring Vets for Freedom. My article on this city's effrontery to our military, as also reprinted in Hegseth's local newspaper, was first published here as “Outrage in Minnesota: Spurning Our Military Heroes.”See:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/03/27/outrage-in-minnesota-spurning-our-military-heroes/

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/

-- October 1, 2008 9:24 AM


Sara wrote:

First, the interference is now acknowledged..

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Iran scuppers US deal for key troops in Iraq
Iran is successfully blocking US efforts to secure a long-term troop presence in Iraq, the American ambassador to Baghdad has conceded.
By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent
26 Sep 2008

In remarks that acknowledged that Tehran is at least as powerful as Washington in Iraq's corridors of power, Ryan Crocker blamed Iran for delays in finalising an agreement that would underpin the US operation in Iraq beyond the end of this year.

Iraqi and American negotiators missed a July deadline to seal a legal framework for US bases and troop operations in the country. Until Mr Crocker's remarks that Iran was "pushing very hard" against the deal, Iranian interference was a factor that went officially unacknowledged.

Mr Crocker also told the Los Angeles Times that Iran was exerting increasing control over extremist Shia muslim activists that were previous linked to the upstart cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr. He said:

"I think what we may be seeing is a situation in which these groups or their successors are far more tightly linked to Tehran and perhaps less linked to Sadr."

America maintains more than 140,000 troops in Iraq as part of an active combat operation to defeat both Sunni terrorists linked to al Qaeda and Shia militias implicated in the deadly violence of Iraq's civil war. But the UN mandate that legitimised and granted legal protection to the US-led coalition that overthrew Saddam Hussein in 2003 is due to expire at the end of the year.

Iran has condemned leaked drafts of the bilateral agreement to replace the mandate. Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq's prime minister, replaced professional diplomats on the negotiating team with members of his private office in August, a development that has pro-Iranian politicians at the heart of the negotiations.

Baghdad maintains that US efforts to secure immunity from prosecution in Iraq for troops and contractors is an unacceptible demand. David Satterfield, the top US negotiator, travelled to Baghdad with a counter proposal but Mr Crocker admitted Mr Maliki was unwilling to concede the principle when popular opinion in Iraq was overwhelmingly opposed.

"The Iraqi people disagree with anything that breaks their independence and sovereignty and judicial sovereignty," he said. "On this basis, the Iraqi people and the Iraqi government look at the agreement as being imposed on them."

Mr Maliki has also insisted that the US pull out all its troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 but the US is only prepared to concede a transition to fully Iraq control of security by that date would be a shared goal.

Securing the approval of the Iraqi parliament for any deal looms as a further impediment to a quick resolution of the impasse. Iraqi MPs have warned that there is deep suspicion of US intentions across the political spectrum. Dhafer al-Ani, a Sunni politician, warned that parliament would conduct a protracted debate on the document: "Due to the sensitivity of the issue, the arguments in parliament will be acute."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3085883/Iran-scuppers-US-deal-for-key-troops-in-Iraq.html

-- October 1, 2008 9:32 AM


Sara wrote:

Then recently, SOME movement in a positive direction...

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Maliki says Iraq ready to compromise on US security pact
Compiled by Daily Star staff
Tuesday, September 30, 2008

Iraqi Premier Nuri al-Maliki said Monday that the government was ready to compromise to reach a security accord with the United States, saying the country still needs US troops despite the recent drop in violence. The speech came after a deadly spate of attacks took the lives of 35 Iraqis Sunday night.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Maliki said neither he nor Iraq's Parliament will accept any pact that falls short of the country's national interests. A poorly constructed plan would provoke so much discord inside Iraq that it could threaten his government's survival, he said.

Maliki said, however, that he was firmly committed to reaching an accord that would allow US troops to remain in the country beyond next year.

"We regard negotiating and reaching such an agreement as a national endeavor, a national mission, a historic one. It is a very important agreement that involves the stability and the security of the country and the existence of foreign troops. It has a historic dimension," he added.

Supporters of popular cleric Moqtada al-Sadr oppose the accord, arguing that US forces should leave Iraq as soon as possible. Neighboring Iran has also been speaking out vociferously against a long-term US presence in Iraq.

Maliki also noted with gratitude the high cost paid by American taxpayers and by the US military and the forces of other coalition members to secure Iraq's freedom and liberty over the past five years.

Maliki also said the government would be offering a compromise on the thorny issue of legal jurisdiction for US forces in the country involving some limited immunity for US forces.

"We have proposed that the legal jurisdiction would be ... with the Americans ... when the troops are performing military operations," he explained. "When they are not performing a military operation, they are outside their camps, the legal jurisdiction would be in the hands of the Iraqi judiciary."

"If we don't reach an agreement by January 1, 2009, the [US] troops will have to remain in their bases," Maliki added, "and then there should be a plan for a quick withdrawal.

Concomitant with Maliki's interview, Defense Secretary Robert Gates warned rising officers Monday of the limits of US military power and encouraged them to be skeptical of technological solutions to complex wars.

In a speech on "hard power" at the National Defense University, Gates said the US military needed to strike a better balance between spending on hi-tech weaponry and meeting the requirements for fighting low-tech wars in broken states.

"Let's be honest with ourselves," he said in remarks prepared for delivery. "The most likely catastrophic threats to our homeland ... are more likely to emanate from failing states than from aggressor states."

He also has advocated greater reliance on "soft power," such as diplomacy and economic influence, over "hard" military power.

"Be modest about what military force can accomplish, and what technology can accomplish," he said. But the human dimension of warfare "is inevitably tragic, inefficient, and uncertain," Gates added.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=96406

-- October 1, 2008 9:36 AM


Sara wrote:

And a further acknowledgement.. of the necessity of US troop presence..
along with a tie-in to the current financial crisis:

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Iraq minister pleads for no US withdrawal
September 28, 2008

Iraq's foreign minister said yesterday "there is a new world now" due to the global financial crisis and he hopes it won't lead to a withdrawal of the 146,000 US troops in his country. Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari said a withdrawal could have consequences for the region that everyone would regret.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/international/article/2008/sep/28/iraq-minister-pleads-for-no-us-withdrawal/

-- October 1, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Japan to enhance capacity to collect accurate information on Iraq

The government will try to enhance its capacity to collect accurate information on Iraq in response to a set of proposals by experts and growing business interest among Japanese companies, trade ministry officials said Tuesday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Too early to set date for finalizing agreement's talks -Sagheer 30/09/2008 17:23:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP Jalal al-Sagheer of the United Iraqi Alliance has sated that "a progress" has been made at the negotiations of the Iraqi-American security agreement, in relation to the Iraqi demands which had been presented to the American[s].
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:45 AM


Tsalagi wrote:


I haven't been able to digest this article yet but it sounds interesting......

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Central Bank of Iraq: Iraqi dinar is more adopted in regional transactions for backing US dollar and other currencies

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01 October 2008 (Iraq Directory)

The economic consultant in the Central Bank of Iraq, Mudhir Muhammad Salih clarified that the bank decided within the future plan which will begin next year, the execution of removing three zeros from the Iraqi currency, which is now suffering from inflation that can not be remedied only through this project, which will give a lot of prosperity and stability in The availability of high and strong cash liquidity ,and to facilitate transactions in line with the stage of growth and optimistic economic prosperity that Iraq will witness in the coming months or years, but it is «a long-term relatively project, and will be implemented gradually to give a kind of comfort and harmony in the economic situation.

Salih stressed on the Bank determination in favor of implementing the project of deleting three zeros from the Iraqi dinar, to convert a thousand dinars to one dinar, which the first phase of the project will begin after a period of time over a year, because this requires careful planning before implementation, and if applied directly it will overburden citizens and may cause problems Even in the cash transactions between people. like what happened when the currency was changed , we found people running to exchange their funds in banks ,but now the first step would be to continue to deal in both existing and new currency until the exhaustion of the old currency from market normally and without the citizens feel so.

He added that the Iraqi economy based on its dealings in cash monetary system,which means direct cash transactions because of weak banking systems and mechanisms ,besides the citizens fears from dealing with banks. Thus we need time to stimulate people to this type of transactions after they used to the old transactions which issued a hike up cash for (20) trillion dinars created in a need for large catagory and this is why the demand for the dollar to the completion of internal trading (dollarization), despite the high value of the Iraqi dinar.

Modhir said that Iraq will convert from 20 trillion to 15 billion dinars and this would have positive effects on the daily economy and banking, and people will be feel comfortable, and I see it is very important and civilian matter, especially that most countries such as Turkey and Brazil dealt with the inflation for many years through such mechanisms And worked to replace the currency and delete zeros and raise the value through long-term plan to implement this project.

In anticipation of any disruption or fluctuations may occur in the secondary market or in cash transactions , we should adopt accurate measures and steps that would solve all the problems in the trading bloc committed a result of enormity of cash in the Iraqi market.

Modhir explained that Iraq has suffered from hyperinflation in the past two decades, which was reflected as hyperinflation ,and that monetary issuance raised to be approximately 25 billion dinars in the early nineties, as to be in 2003 six thousand billion, and if we add significant structural changes on the size of the budget that is the source of Expansion of the monetary mass, we can say that the country is not able to stand in its ciruculations such large amount of cash currency units, a legacy of a hyper-inflation. He noted that the reduction in the new currency will give a lot of prosperity and stability in the availability of high and strong money fluidity and facilitate transactions in line with the stage of growth and optimistic economic prosperity that Iraq will witness in the months or years to come.


http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php?refid=DH-S-01-10-2008&article=37289

-- October 1, 2008 9:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The following is from our long time nemisis in Iraq: Mookie.
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Sadr announces readiness support minorities 30/09/2008 19:13:00

Najaf (NINA) – Muqtada Sadr, head of Sadrist Trend, announced readiness to support Iraq's religious and ethnic minorities to obtain their national rights and demands.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:46 AM


Sara wrote:

Considering the volatility in the region..
and Russia's presence there and invasion recently of Georgia..
This is worthy of note to the board as a positive development. :)

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Gorbachev to form political party in Russia
By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer Sept 30 2008

MOSCOW - A Russian billionaire said Tuesday he is teaming up with former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to form a new political party that will challenge the country's recent steps away from democracy.

Alexander Lebedev, a former lawmaker who has built a fortune in business and investment, said he and Gorbachev would work together in a political movement tentatively named the Independent Democratic Party.

Kremlin critics say that during his eight years as president, current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin reversed Russia's post-Soviet movement toward democracy and enhanced state control over the economy, courts and media.

In a statement on his Web site, Lebedev said the new party was Gorbachev's idea. "The initiative belongs to President Gorbachev. He gave our people freedom, but we have not learned how to use it."

Lebedev said the party would advocate a "return to a normal electoral system," calling for the restoration of gubernatorial elections, a stronger parliament, independent courts and media, and a smaller state role in the economy.

Gorbachev has generally praised Putin for lifting the nation out of the post-Soviet troubles that many Russians blame on the late Boris Yeltsin, a longtime rival of Gorbachev who replaced him in the Kremlin.

But he has cautiously criticized the political system put in place by Putin. The United Russia party of the immensely popular Putin dominates parliament and regional governments while Kremlin critics have been sidelined, sometimes though force.

Earlier this year, Gorbachev suggested that United Russia was in danger of becoming like the all-powerful Soviet-era Communist Party and called for major changes in the electoral system.

Lebedev, a major private shareholder in the Russian airline Aeroflot, joined with Gorbachev in 2006 to buy 49 percent of Novaya Gazeta, an independent newspaper that has challenged the Kremlin with penetrating investigative reporting. Anna Politkovskaya, a prominent investigative reporter murdered that year, worked for Novaya Gazeta.

In June, Gorbachev and Lebedev urged the creation of a national museum and memorial to honor victims of Soviet-era repression — a move seen as a challenge to the government, which critics say has glossed over the crimes of Josef Stalin to justify its own retreat from democracy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_gorbachev_party;_ylt=AiLGcyMNbeNZZ83Ny2uqWIADW7oF

-- October 1, 2008 9:47 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad seeks to buy arms from Europe, FT

Military and Security 10/1/2008 2:21:00 PM



LONDON, Oct 1 (KUNA) -- The Iraqi government has begun talks with European allies about arms purchases as it rebuilds its military in a drive towards independence from US forces, it was reported here Wednesday.
Iraqi representatives have visited UK defence officials in recent months as part of a series of "fact-finding" missions in Europe, according to people close to UK Trade and Investment, the agency charged with attracting investment into Britain, the Financial Times (FT) newspaper said.
"It is a concerted effort to see what is available in the marketplace", said one official familiar with the talks.
The Iraqis were interested in a range of equipment, from secure communication systems to border protection technology, the main business daily in Europe said.
The talks underscore Iraqs ambition to strengthen the capabilities of its security forces as they increasingly take over operational control from the US military.
The US has also pushed to arm Iraq for the same reason.
Iraq has spent about three billion dollars (1.7 billion pounds), money from its own resources, mostly on US-made military equipment, including rifles, pistols, ammunition, mortars, various aircraft and a range of transport vehicles, through the US foreign military sales (FMS) programme since January 2007.
Some of the larger items include 140 Abrams tanks, made by General Dynamics, six Lockheed Martin military cargo aircraft and 24-Russian-made armed reconnaissance helicopters.
US companies have already supplied roughly half the ordered equipment, while the remaining 1.5 billion dollars is under contract.
Iraq has about 300 million dollars remaining in its FMS account, according to a Pentagon spokeswoman.
Future equipment sales are expected to be financed by Iraqs rising oil revenues, the FT added. (end) he.bz.
KUNA 011421 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Khamenei urges Muslims to close ranks

Religion 10/1/2008 1:38:00 PM



TEHRAN, Oct 1 (KUNA) -- The supreme guide of the Islamic Republic of Iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei calld on Wednesday on Muslim nations to join ranks in face of their enemies.
The top guide, in his sermon at Eid Al-Fitr prayers, said Muslims of the world should preserve their unity and solidarity for sake of confronting schemes of the enemies, designed to sow seeds of discords among them.
"These enemies are plotting to make the Muslim nations be afraid of each others and fabricating lies to make them fearful of Iran," Khamenei said.
Millions of Iranians took part in the Eid prayers today. (end) mw.rk KUNA 011338 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Economy

Iraq takes part in Arab-Russian business council meeting

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Baghdad, 28 September 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Member of the Baghdad Chamber of Commerce Ismail al-Khaseki on Friday announced the participation of an Iraqi delegation in the 3rd meeting of the Arab-Russian business council to be held in Moscow on October 22-23.

“A delegation from the Iraqi chambers of commerce association will take part in the third meeting of the Arab-Russian business council, run by the Moscow chamber of commerce,” al-Khaseki told Aswat al-Iraq.

“The Iraqi delegations will work on boosting trade relations and cooperation with Russia,” he explained.

“The delegation will invite the Russian investors to invest in industrial, constructional and agricultural projects in Iraq,” he also said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:53 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bin Laden Escape Tied to Iraq War Planning
October 01, 2008
Inter Press Service

WASHINGTON -- New evidence from former U.S. officials reveals the George W. Bush administration failed to adopt any plan to block Osama bin Laden's retreat from Afghanistan to Pakistan in the weeks after Sept. 11.

That failure was directly related to the fact that top administration officials gave priority to planning for war with Iraq over military action against al-Qaida in Afghanistan.

As a result, the United States had far too few troops and strategic airlift capacity in the theater to cover the large number of possible exit routes through the border area when bin Laden escaped in late 2001.

Because it had not been directed to plan for that contingency, the U.S. military had to turn down an offer by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in late November 2001 to send 60,000 troops to the border passes to intercept the al-Qaida leaders, according to accounts provided by former U.S. officials involved in the issue.

On Nov. 12, 2001, as Northern Alliance troops were marching on Kabul with little resistance, the CIA had intelligence that bin Laden was headed for a cave complex in the Tora Bora Mountains close to the Pakistani border.

The war had ended much more quickly than expected only days earlier. Central Command commander Tommy Franks, who was responsible for the war in Afghanistan, had no forces in position to block bin Laden's exit.

Franks asked Lt. Gen. Paul Mikolashek, commander of Army Central Command (ARCENT), whether his command could provide a blocking force between al-Qaida and the Pakistani border, according to David Lamm, who was then commander of ARCENT Kuwait.

Lamm, a retired Army colonel, recalled in an interview that there was no way to fulfill the CENTCOM commander's request, because ARCENT had neither the troops nor the strategic lift in Kuwait required to put such a force in place. "You looked at that request, and you just shook your head," recalled Lamm, now chief of staff of the Near East South Asia Center for Strategic Studies at the National Defense University.

Franks apparently already realized that he would need Pakistani help in blocking the al-Qaida exit from Tora Bora. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told a National Security Council meeting that Franks "wants the [Pakistanis] to close the transit points between Afghanistan and Pakistan to seal what's going in and out," according to the National Security Council meeting transcript in Bob Woodward's book Bush at War.

Bush responded that they would need to "press Musharraf to do that."

A few days later, Franks made an unannounced trip to Islamabad to ask Musharraf to deploy troops along the Pakistan-Afghan border near Tora Bora.

A deputy to Franks, Lt. Gen. Mike DeLong, later claimed Musharraf had refused Franks' request for regular Pakistani troops to be repositioned from the north to the border near the Tora Bora area. DeLong wrote in his 2004 book Inside Centcom that Musharraf had said he "couldn't do that," because it would spark a "civil war" with a hostile tribal population.

But U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlin, who accompanied Franks to the meeting with Musharraf, provided an account of the meeting to this writer that contradicts DeLong's claim.

Chamberlin, now president of the Middle East Institute in Washington, recalled that the Pakistani president told Franks CENTCOM had vastly underestimated what was required to block bin Laden exit from Afghanistan. Musharraf said, "Look you are missing the point: There are 150 valleys through which al-Qaida are going to stream into Pakistan," according to Chamberlin.

Although Musharraf admitted that the Pakistani government had never exercised control over the border area, the former diplomat recalled, he said this was "a good time to begin." The Pakistani president offered to redeploy 60,000 troops to the area from the border with India but said his army would need airlift assistance from the United States to carry out the redeployment.

But the Pakistani redeployment never happened, according to Lamm, because it wasn't logistically feasible. Lamm recalled that it would have required an entire aviation brigade, including hundreds of helicopters, and hundreds of support troops to deliver that many combat troops to the border region -- far more than was available.

Lamm said the ARCENT had so few strategic lift resources that it had to use commercial aircraft at one point to move U.S. supplies in and out of Afghanistan.

Even if the helicopters had been available, however, they could not have operated with high effectiveness in the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border region near the Tora Bora caves, according to Lamm, because of the combination of high altitude and extreme weather.

Franks did manage to insert 1,200 Marines to Kandahar on Nov. 26 to establish control of the airbase there. They were carried to the base by helicopters from an aircraft carrier that had moved into the Gulf from the Pacific, according to Lamm.

The Marines patrolled roads in the Kandahar area hoping to intercept al-Qaida officials heading toward Pakistan. But DeLong, now retired from the Army, said in an interview that the Marines would not have been able to undertake the blocking mission at the border. "It wouldn't have worked -- even if we could have gotten them up there," he said. "There weren't enough to police 1,500 kilometers [930 miles] of border."

U.S. troops probably would also have faced armed resistance from the local tribal population in the border region, according to DeLong. The tribesmen in local villages near the border "liked bin Laden," he said "because he had given them millions of dollars."

Had the Bush administration's priority been to capture or kill the al-Qaida leadership, it would have deployed the necessary ground troops and airlift resources in the theater over a period of months before the offensive in Afghanistan began.

"You could have moved American troops along the Pakistani border before you went into Afghanistan," said Lamm. But that would have meant waiting until spring 2002 to take the offensive against the Taliban, according to Lamm.

The views of Bush's key advisers, however, ruled out any such plan from the start. During the summer of 2001, Rumsfeld had refused to develop contingency plans for military action against al-Qaida in Afghanistan despite a National Security Presidential Directive adopted at the Deputies' Committee level in July and by the Principles on Sep. 4 that called for such planning, according to the 9/11 Commission report.

Rumsfeld and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz resisted such planning for Afghanistan because they were hoping that the White House would move quickly on military intervention in Iraq. According to the 9/11 Commission, at four deputies' meetings on Iraq between May 31 and July 26, 2001, Wolfowitz pushed his idea to have U.S. troops seize all the oil fields in southern Iraq.

Even after Sep. 11, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Vice President Dick Cheney continued to resist any military engagement in Afghanistan, because they were hoping for war against Iraq instead.

Bush's top secret order of Sep. 17 for war with Afghanistan also directed the Pentagon to begin planning for an invasion of Iraq, according to journalist James Bamford's book Pretext for War.

Cheney and Rumsfeld pushed for a quick victory in Afghanistan in NSC meetings in October, as recounted by both Woodward and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith. Lost in the eagerness to wrap up the Taliban and get on with the Iraq War was any possibility of preventing bin Laden's escape to Pakistan
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 9:56 AM


Sara wrote:

Thanks to you, Rob N.. and Mookie. :)
QUOTE:

Muqtada Sadr, head of Sadrist Trend, announced readiness to support Iraq's religious and ethnic minorities to obtain their national rights and demands.

I certainly hope this will move ALL of the Iraqi parliamentarians toward resolving this in favor of national rights and the legitimate demands of minorities. Without that safeguard, no one will be safe in Iraq. History shows us that trammelling of rights begins small.. and works its way until there is a virtual dictatorship. I have seen this abrogation of minority rights as the thin edge of the wedge.. minority Christians first, then the Sunni Awakening groups.. it portends monstrous evil... and more bloodshed.

And I have hoped for so much better for Iraq and her people.

I am relieved to hear Mr. Sadr's support of minority rights and hope others will follow.

Thanks for posting it. :)

Sara.

-- October 1, 2008 9:58 AM


Sara wrote:

Bipartisan support.. hopefully will make the difference,
so we can move on from this economic crisis.

===

Obama and McCain urge revival of bailout
By Caren Bohan Sept 30 2008

RENO, Nevada (Reuters) - White House contenders Barack Obama and John McCain sought to persuade skeptical Americans on Tuesday to back a $700 billion Wall Street bailout plan, warning they face economic calamity if there is no deal.

So far Democrat Obama and Republican McCain have had little impact on the debate surrounding the Wall Street rescue, which was torpedoed in the House of Representatives on Monday.

A day after Obama and McCain blamed each other for contributing to the collapse of the legislation, each stressed the need for both parties to work together to try to reach an agreement palatable to some of the 95 Democrats and 133 Republicans who combined to defeat the bailout.

And they both encouraged Americans to back a Wall Street bailout because, as McCain said in Des Moines, Iowa, "inaction is not an option."

A new poll by the Pew Research Center found weakening public support for the bailout. The September 27-29 survey said Americans only backed the plan by a 45 percent to 38 percent margin.

Obama told thousands at an outdoor rally in Reno, "It is not a time for politicians to concern themselves with the next election. It is a time for all of us to concern ourselves with the future of the country we love. This is a time for action."

Both Obama and McCain said they backed lifting the limit on bank deposit insurance from the current maximum of $100,000 to $250,000 as a way to restore confidence and prevent potentially

Each candidate had a telephone conversation with President George W. Bush about the crisis.

"I will be talking to leaders and members of Congress later today to offer this idea and urge them to act without delay to pass a rescue plan," Obama said in an e-mailed statement to reporters.

McCain said he believed one reason Congress did not approve the package was because "it hasn't really sunk in that the people who are hurting and are being hurt are Main Street families, small businesses, those kinds of people that are the engine of our economy."

Obama said that "continued inaction in the face of the gathering storm in our financial markets would be catastrophic for our economy and our families."

He also said he believed a move to try to start over from scratch with a new bill would not succeed and said lawmakers instead should try to find ways to broaden support for the current bill.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080930/ts_nm/us_usa_politics1

-- October 1, 2008 10:06 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

We all are beginning to see repeated articles stating Iraq's inentension to lop three zeros from the Iraqi Dinar. These articles communicate to me we are close to a change in the direction of this investment.

In my personal opinion, these articles are propaganda designed to discourage further speculation in the Iraqi Dinar. I also believe once the smaller denominations are introduced to the market the larger notes especially the 25,000 and 10,000 will be pulled from circulation.

The introducion of these smaller denominations will probably occur on or before a change in monetary policy by the Central Bank. A change is coming and I think for those of us who hold these notes will reap a great reward.

I look forward to actually planning and participating in that pig roast.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 10:16 AM


Sara wrote:

A voice of reason and caution... helping reality to sink in.
Surely Americans can see that if all her politicians are coming together..
that something very big and important is happening?
Can they investigate what.. and support the measure.. hopefully?
Before the crash hits and, as Hillary says below,
QUOTE:

"we are facing a very serious economic slowdown, a recession that could be of long-lasting and deep impact." Without a bailout, Clinton said, "I think it will be even more expensive and difficult to dig ourselves out of this deep hole that we're in."

===

Clinton: 'It Sounds Dire, But Commerce Could Stop'
Sep 30, 2008
Says She Understands The Concerns Of 'Innocent Taxpayers,' But A Possible 'Recession Impacts Everyone'

WASHINGTON (CBS/AP) ― Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton says the U.S. Senate may have to lead the way in passing a $700 billion Wall Street bailout package, now that the House has rejected the measure.

"I certainly would support the Senate going first, so long as we have the votes ... as early as tomorrow if that's what would make this process successful," Clinton told reporters by phone Tuesday.

The New York Democrat, who nearly won her party's presidential nomination, said she believes public opposition to the bailout deal may be weakening after the market reacted badly to the failed House vote Monday and more businesses express worries about the future.

"It sounds dire but there is a risk that commerce could grind to a halt," she said.

After the deal failed in the House Monday, the Dow Jones Industrial average sank 778 points, or nearly 7 percent, to its lowest close in nearly three years. It was the largest point drop and 17th largest percentage drop in its history, but far less severe than the 20-plus-percentage drops seen in the stock market crash of October 1987 and before the Great Depression.

The market recovered somewhat in Tuesday morning trading, rising more than 200 points by midday. (due to the HUGE infusion of cash by Central Banks, see article I posted, above - Sara.)

Clinton suggested negotiators on the government bailout package should "maybe cool off a little from the emotion and the pressure of the last two weeks and get back to Washington starting tomorrow and do what we have to do to try to stabilize not only our nation but the entire world."

Voters furious over the proposal to have taxpayers foot the bill should understand that it's not just a problem facing bankers, Clinton said.

"They have to recognize that we are facing a very serious economic slowdown, a recession that could be of long-lasting and deep impact," she said.

Without a bailout, Clinton said, "I think it will be even more expensive and difficult to dig ourselves out of this deep hole that we're in."

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/hillary.clinton.senate.2.829183.html

-- October 1, 2008 10:18 AM


Sara wrote:

Why the bailout is not like the Iraq war
Monday, Sept. 29, 2008
Reuters/Michael Caronna

People walk past a display showing financial data in Tokyo September 29, 2008. Japan's Nikkei average fell 1.3 percent on Monday, down for a third day as investor caution about the implementing of a U.S. bailout plan for the financial sector outweighed initial relief that a deal was being done.

The news that the federal government has organized another bank rescue -- Wachovia to Citigroup -- proves that the financial crisis is ongoing and unlikely to be resolved soon, no matter how many imperial powers are bestowed upon Hank Paulson.

But does the $700 billion deal make Paulson the Donald Rumsfeld of the economy? Over the last week, critics of the bailout, generally from the left, have delighted in drawing parallels between the rush to invade Iraq and the rush to bail out Wall Street. Paulson is the new Rumsfeld. The bailout plan is an "Authorization to use Financial Force." The process has been pushed through too quickly, alternatives haven't been properly explored, and the cost is unthinkably huge.

Plenty of reasons exist to dislike the bailout, and in a perfect world, a financial intervention on this scale would be mulled over at our leisure and crafted with care. But this is far from a perfect world, and the Iraq metaphor just doesn't hold up.

The leftist view/arguments, with refutes:

1) Most obviously: In the financial crisis, we have found the "weapons of mass destruction" -- the exotic financial derivatives whose proliferation created what Warren Buffett called a "daisy chain of risk." The dominoes are falling. Bear-Stearns, IndyMac, Fannie and Freddie, AIG, Lehman, Washington Mutual, Fortis, Wachovia... If nothing is done, massive job losses and a severe economic contraction will follow.

2) U.S. military intervention in the petro-states of the Mideast was a cherished neoconservative policy goal. I defy anyone to find evidence that the nationalization of the financial economy was a similar neocon dream. Quite the opposite: the bailout is a de facto recognition that New Deal-style government intervention in the economy is necessary and justified in extreme circumstances. The catastrophic undermining of 30 years of triumphant deregulatory ideology can't possibly be what the Bush administration had in mind when it took office eight years ago.

3) The invasion of Iraq lowered America's standing in the world. I haven't polled the rest of the world on the bailout, but my guess would be that large swathes of humanity would rather the U.S. spend many hundreds of billions of dollars in an effort to prevent global markets from collapsing than do nothing, and potentially set off a global depression. They might point fingers at us and smirk, but that's a price we'll have to pay.

It's embarrassing, it's enraging, it's hasty and it is obscenely expensive. But the bailout is not like the invasion of Iraq.

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/09/29/bailout_iraq_war/index.html

-- October 1, 2008 10:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

IAEA lacks tools to find hidden atom work: ElBaradei

Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:31am EDT

By Mark Heinrich

VIENNA (Reuters) - The International Atomic Energy Agency chief said on Tuesday the agency's failure to detect nuclear arms work in Saddam Hussein's Iraq in the 1980s showed his inspectors lacked authority to pre-empt proliferators.

His remark was telling because an IAEA probe of Iran has stalled over Tehran's failure to explain allegations of secret nuclear arms research and its refusal to grant inspectors access to military-affiliated sites and officials they deem relevant.

IAEA Director Mohamed ElBaradei said the crux of the problem was that some countries under investigation, the latest being Syria, had failed to ratify an agency protocol permitting short notice IAEA visits to sites not declared to be nuclear so as to ensure no bomb-related work is going on at secret locations.

"Our legal authority is very limited. With Iraq, we have discovered that unless we have the Additional Protocol in place, we will not really be able to discover undeclared activities," he said on the sidelines of the U.N. watchdog's annual 145-nation General Conference in Vienna.

"Our experience is that any proliferator will not really go for declared diverted activities (that would quickly reveal them as violators of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), they will go for completely clandestine undeclared activities," he said.

In the 1970s-80s, Iraq under then-dictator Saddam Hussein developed a nuclear weapons program hidden from the IAEA because of severe restrictions on inspector access. It came to light only after Iraq's defeat in the 1991 Gulf War and the IAEA spent the next seven years dismantling it.

Diplomats say that the key to resolving current IAEA investigations of Iran and Syria is extra access to sites not declared to be nuclear. But they say both have ruled this out, saying such sites involve their conventional military and so lie outside the IAEA's writ.

Iran and Syria deny having any covert weapons programs or illicitly hiding any nuclear activity from the IAEA. ElBaradei has called on Syria as well for greater transparency and access. Damascus also has not ratified the Additional Protocol.

Opening the IAEA gathering on Monday, ElBaradei said the agency, guardian of the NPT, lacked funding, state-of-the-art equipment and legal authority to extract full cooperation from countries under nuclear investigation.

He said the failure of some 100 countries, including the United States, to ratify the decade-old protocol was "an abysmal record" that handicapped the IAEA's verification mandate.

The IAEA has also since May been investigating Syria, based on U.S. intelligence alleging that it had almost completed a secret nuclear reactor that might have made bomb-grade plutonium before the site was destroyed in an Israeli air strike.

The United States and Western allies have put Iran and Syria under fire in the IAEA debate, accusing both of stonewalling U.N. investigators and demanding unfettered cooperation.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 1, 2008 12:08 PM


Sara wrote:

From the Iraqi Vets:

===

Vets for Freedom ad: “Skipped”
October 1, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Vets for Freedom has a new ad on Barack Obama's lack of attention to Iraq as well as his record of missing votes. However, VFF has more of a problem with the votes Obama managed to cast, as the ad shows:

SEE: http://blip.tv/play/AdC1KoiAAA

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/01/vets-for-freedom-ad-skipped/

-- October 1, 2008 1:59 PM


Sara wrote:

Bias, what bias?
Quotes:

"My dictionary defines 'moderator' as 'the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting.'

"But there is nothing 'moderate' about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama. She's so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out," Malkin writes.

Fox News commentator Greta Van Susteren reported the McCain campaign didn't know about the book.

===

VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book
Focuses on blacks who are 'forging a bold new path to political power'
Posted: September 30, 2008
By Bob Unruh

The moderator of tomorrow's vice-presidential debate is writing a book to come out on the day the next president takes the oath of office that aims to "shed new light" on Democratic candidate Barack Obama and other "emerging young African American politicians" who are "forging a bold new path to political power."

Gwen Ifill of the Public Broadcasting Service program "Washington Week" is promoting "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama," in which she argues the "black political structure" of the civil rights movement is giving way to men and women who have benefited from the struggles over racial equality.

Ifill declined to return a WND telephone message asking for a comment about her book project and whether its success would be expected should Obama lose. But she has faced criticism previously for not treating candidates of both major parties the same.

During a vice-presidential candidate debate she moderated in 2004 – when Democrat John Edwards attacked Republican Dick Cheney's former employer, Halliburton – the vice president said, "I can respond, Gwen, but it's going to take more than 30 seconds."

"Well, that's all you've got," she told Cheney.

Ifill told the Associated Press Democrats were delighted with her answer, because they "thought I was being snippy to Cheney."

But she also was cited in complaints PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler said he received after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin delivered her nomination acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., earlier this month.

A clip of Ifill's coverage of Palin can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zafLsAtp_Q

PBS viewer Brian Meyers of Granby, Conn., said he was "appalled" by Ifill's commentary directly following Palin's convention speech.

"Her attitude was dismissive and the look on her face was one of disgust," Meyers said. "Clearly, she was agitated by what most critics view as a well-delivered speech. It is quite obvious that Ms. Ifill supports Obama as she struggled to say anything redemptive about Gov. Palin's performance."

Columnist Michelle Malkin, in a post on her blog today, wonders how Ifill can objectively moderate the debate tomorrow night with the personal interest she has in the election's outcome.

"My dictionary defines 'moderator' as 'the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting.' On Thursday, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill will serve as moderator for the first and only vice presidential debate. The stakes are high. The Commission on Presidential Debates, with the assent of the two campaigns, decided not to impose any guidelines on her duties or questions.

"But there is nothing 'moderate' about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama. She's so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out," Malkin writes.

"Ifill and her publisher are banking on an Obama/Biden win to buoy her book sales. The moderator expected to treat both sides fairly has grandiosely declared this the 'Age of Obama.' Can you imagine a right-leaning journalist writing a book about the 'stunning' McCain campaign and its 'bold' path to reform timed for release on Inauguration Day – and then expecting a slot as a moderator for the nation’s sole vice presidential debate?"

Fox News commentator Greta Van Susteren reported the McCain campaign didn't know about the book.

"It simply is not fair – in law, this would create a mistrial," she said.

"She spent a lot of time with Obama. She praises him in the book," Juan Williams, a senior correspondent with National Public Radio said. "The book's success [is] invested in Obama. … Suddenly everyone's going to be saying Gwen Ifill is somewhat biased against Gov. Palin."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76645

-- October 1, 2008 3:46 PM


Sara wrote:

Gallup Daily: Obama 48%, McCain 44%
Slightly closer race now than two days ago
October 1, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of registered voters finds Barack Obama at 48%, and John McCain at 44%.

The general election results are based on combined data from Sept. 28-30, 2008.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110881/Gallup-Daily-Obama-48-McCain-44.aspx

Allahpundit at Hotair commented on this:
QUOTE:

The One led by eight on Monday and by six yesterday. If it’s true that McCain’s chances are at the mercy of the economy, why’s he gaining in the middle of an economic crisis, after an 800-point drop on Wall Street? I’m tempted to call it an outlier — but if it is, how’d he gain five points in the new WaPo poll too? The knee-jerk answer is that he’s riding a wave of residual goodwill from the House GOP’s revolt against the bailout, but (a) passionate opposition to the bailout is cooling, (b) McCain actually took credit for getting a bailout deal done before it was undone, and (c) he’s unambiguously in favor of the Senate bill so the backlash may only have been delayed. (Then again, Obama’s unambiguously in favor too so he shouldn’t reap any political windfall.)

===end quote===

I think the answer is found in McCain's leadership as shown in this new Ad, "Week":

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsSo7sC9M2s
QUOTE:

What a week. Democrats blamed Republicans, Republicans blamed Democrats.

We’re the United States of America. It shouldn’t take a crisis to pull us together.

We need a President who can avert crisis. Put people back to work. Grow our economy. And move people from surviving to thriving.

We need leadership without painful new taxes. That will make our country strong again. I’m John McCain and I approve this message.

==end quote==

Ed Morrissey comments:

Two weeks ago, McCain used this same approach in his ad, “Foundation”. In this, McCain even eschews the scary imagery of Wall Street and keeps the camera on himself the entire time. It’s the strongest, most effective approach McCain has, and the mystery is why Team McCain hasn’t made more use of it.

McCain gets to sell himself as the true arbiter of bipartisanship once again, mostly because Barack Obama has been AWOL from the bailout debate. Originally, it looked as though McCain made the wrong call by injecting himself into the debate, and Obama smart for distancing himself — especially when people opposed the idea of Congressional action so sharply. That changed with the 777-point loss on the Dow on Monday, in which over a trillion dollars of value dissipated. Suddenly, the tenor of the calls changed significantly, and people wanted leadership in Washington.

The timing seems perfect for the launch of this ad. Voters look for leadership, and only one candidate even bothered to show up for this crisis on his own. McCain needs to establish himself as a reliable leader who won’t go Harry Reid in a crisis, and this ad starts that process.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/01/mccain-ad-week/

-- October 1, 2008 6:38 PM


Sara wrote:

"Suburban voters have decided victors in not only the last five presidential contests, but control of Congress and state houses"

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Hofstra poll: McCain leads suburban vote
BY KARLA SCHUSTER
September 29, 2008

Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain holds a slight edge over Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama among suburban voters, according to a new poll sponsored by Hofstra University released Monday.

The nationwide poll, conducted for Hofstra's National Center for Suburban Studies, found that 48 percent of suburban voters said they support McCain, compared to 42 percent for Obama.

By comparison, the poll found that McCain leads Obama among rural voters, 51 percent to 35 percent, while Obama is ahead in urban areas, 57 percent to 34 percent.

"Suburban voters have decided victors in not only the last five presidential contests, but control of Congress and state houses," said Lawrence Levy, director of the National Center for Suburban Studies.

The poll also revealed a significant gender gap in McCain's support among suburban voters -- suburban men favor him over Obama by a margin of 51 percent to 40 percent, while suburban women are evenly split, with both men drawing 45 percent.

The telephone survey of 1,033 suburban residents and 493 urban and rural residents was conducted from Sept. 15-21. The total margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points; for suburban residents it was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-lipoll0930,0,5758098.story

-- October 2, 2008 12:33 AM


Sara wrote:

Whew! Was I ever glad to read this article!
After all.. if the socialist/communist America-hating leftists all criticize the bailout..
you just gotta KNOW it is the right thing for a free Democratic America to do. :)

Sara.

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Latin America leftists slam U.S. on financial crisis
Tue Sep 30, 2008

MANAUS, Brazil, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Latin America's socialist leaders accused the United States on Tuesday of "irresponsibility" in its handling of a financial crisis that has dried up credit markets and threatens economies around the world.

While Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the crisis could slow economic growth across Latin America, he still took a stab at Washington and predicted that U.S. economic power is in dramatic decline.

"This crash of capitalism and of neoliberalism will be worse than that of 1929," Chavez told reporters at a meeting with the leaders of Brazil, Bolivia, and Ecuador in Brazil's Amazon city of Manaus. "The world will never be the same after this crisis."

With world money markets in trouble, policymakers are hoping the U.S. Congress will quickly revive and approve a $700 billion rescue package that would allow the U.S. Treasury to buy up bad debt from struggling banks.

But Bolivian President Evo Morales, who is a close ally of Venezuela's Chavez and has nationalized the natural gas industry as part of his socialist reforms, criticized the U.S. plan as a bail-out for the rich.

"In Bolivia, we nationalized for the people to have money, while the United States wants to nationalize debt and a crisis of the wealthy," Morales said before meeting with Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Ecuador's President Rafael Correa and Chavez.

Correa, Morales and Chavez all promote socialist reforms and have been harsh Washington critics.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN3045652320080930

-- October 2, 2008 12:59 AM


Sara wrote:

The Senate passed the Bailout... now to the House.
Foxnews headline reads, QUOTE:

A revised $700B financial industry bailout bill passes Senate by 74-25 vote, House to vote Friday.

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Senate Passes Revised $700B Financial Bailout
Wednesday, October 01, 2008 AP

WASHINGTON — After one spectacular failure, the $700 billion financial industry bailout found a second life Wednesday, winning lopsided passage in the Senate and gaining ground in the House, where Republicans opposition softened.

Senators loaded the economic rescue bill with tax breaks and other sweeteners before passing it by a wide margin, 74-25, a month before the presidential and congressional elections.

In the House, leaders were working feverishly to convert enough opponents of the bill to push it through by Friday, just days after lawmakers there stunningly rejected an earlier version and sent markets plunging around the globe.

The measure didn't cause the same uproar in the Senate, where both parties' presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, made rare appearances to cast "aye" votes.

In the final vote, 40 Democrats, 33 Republicans and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut voted "yes." Nine Democrats, 15 Republicans and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted "no."

The rescue package lets the government spend billions of dollars to buy bad mortgage-related securities and other devalued assets held by troubled financial institutions. If successful, advocates say, that would allow frozen credit to begin flowing again and prevent a deep recession.

Even as the Senate voted, House leaders were hunting for the 12 votes they would need to turn around Monday's 228-205 defeat. They were especially targeting the 133 Republicans who voted "no."

Their opposition appeared to be easing after the Senate added $110 billion in tax breaks for businesses and the middle class, plus a provision to raise, from $100,000 to $250,000, the cap on federal deposit insurance.

Leaders in both parties, as well as private economic chiefs everywhere, said Congress must quickly approve some version of the bailout measure to start loans flowing and stave off a potential national economic disaster.

"This is what we need to do right now to prevent the possibility of a crisis turning into a catastrophe," Obama said on the Senate floor. In Missouri, before flying to Washington to vote, McCain said, "If we fail to act, the gears of our economy will grind to a halt."

Proponents argued that the financial sector's woes were already being felt by ordinary people in the form of unaffordable credit and underperforming retirement savings and without the bailout would soon translate into even more economic pain for working Americans, including more job losses.

"There will be no balloons or bunting or parades," when the rescue becomes law, said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman. But lawmakers will have "the knowledge that at one of our nation's moments of maximum economic peril, we acted — not for the benefit of a particular few, but for all Americans."

With constituent feedback changing dramatically since Monday's shocking House defeat and the corresponding market plunge, lawmakers' comfort level with the package increased markedly.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431561,00.html

-- October 2, 2008 1:15 AM


timbitts wrote:

Sara,

Thanks for your posts. I read them, to stay up on things.

I've always considered myself to be a moderate conservative. If I were an American, I'd be a moderate Republican. One thing that has bothered me about the reaction of some Republicans, who were against the bailout, was that their opposition was based on a philosophical view of business and capitalism, which said all state intervention was bad, and business should always be left alone, without government intervention.

I think that belief is part of the reason Americans got into the mess they are currently in.

While I share the belief in minimum government interference, and generally letting business manage their own affairs, I have 700 billion reasons to say the obvious: There is a time and a place for government oversight and intervention. There are exceptions to the hands off business rule. It's just common sense. My belief is that many financially astute people say this financial crisis coming years ago, and they didn't stop it. I don't believe this came out of the blue.

Business is a bit like riding a horse. Grab on the reins too tight, and the horse gets all skiddish and confused. In other words, micromanaging and too much interference is bad. However, let the reins too loose, and the horse goes where it wants. Somewhere in the middle is best. And the yokels on Wall Street and Congress are letting the horse go where it wants, and do it's business on the front lawn, walking over the petunias. If this is conservative business philosophy, I'm out.

What's going on is just plain stupid, and irresponsible.

Conservatives should apply a little common sense. It's fine to maintain the view of minimizing state intervention, while recognizing that there is a place for government oversight. I hope a few prominant conservatives give their heads a shake and re-examine their basic assumptions, about the supposed sacredness of never letting the government "interfere with business".

Since many people likely saw this coming, and knew how much it would cost the American public, I consider this mess, and the bailout, to be either extortion, or daylight robbery mixed with negligence. Someone should go to jail. I have a very low opinion of thievery and incompetance and neglect of the public interest, and I don't know who is responsible. But I am convinced people need to go to prison over this.

In the end, small businessmen, teachers, clerks, and ordinary mom-and-pop Americans will be paying the price for the malfeasance of their public officials. Those responsible have violated a sacred public trust, and trashed public morals and decency, and should be treated no better than the young punk who holds up a 7-11.

Right now the public has a 9% approval rating for Congress.

I'm surprised it's that high.

-- October 2, 2008 1:54 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq 'needs a common vision' for the future

By Mayada Al Askari, Staff Writer

Published: October 02, 2008, 00:07

Recently General David Petraeus handed over the command of the multinational forces in Iraq to General Raymond Odierno. While there has been a remarkable decline in the violence in Iraq over the last few months, the peace process in the war-ravaged nation is still believed to be very fragile.

In a free-wheeling chat with Gulf News, General Odierno shared some of his thoughts on the overall scenario in Iraq and the on-going peace process. Following are excerpts.

Gulf News: How fragile is the peace situation in Iraq? Are we going to witness a collapse of the current situation in the near future?


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Gen. raymond Odierno: Iraq has moved on from being a failed state in 2006 to a fragile state today. Our intent is to help Iraq develop into a stable state. Iraq is fragile today because there is not a national vision for the country; public service provision is poor and Al Qaida and the Special Groups are still capable of conducting terrorist activities. We are encouraging Iraqi leaders to come together to develop a common vision for the future.

They need to agree to the nature of the state [federal or otherwise], the degree of power sharing between the centre and the provinces, budget allocation, internal boundaries and sharing the oil wealth. Next year, the Iraqis will have the opportunity to choose their leaders at both the provincial and national levels. This is important for showing that differences can be resolved through politics. We continue to assist the Iraqi government to build up its security force capacity and its capacity to deliver public services. The latter is crucial because it is in the impoverished and neglected areas that discontent grows and terrorists are able to recruit followers.

The US's strategic ally, Ahmad Al Challabi, announced last week that the US had plans to maintain its secret military bases in Iraq. Your comments ...

US Ambassador Ryan Crocker made it very clear in June that the US was not seeking permanent bases in Iraq. Our goal is to help this government in Iraq to exercise full sovereignty and clearly not to maintain a large force in the distant future.

The US and the Iraqi governments are yet to reach an agreement on the deadline for the US army to pull out of Iraq. When do you think a total pull-out will occur.

What I owe the President of the US is my recommendation based on my assessment of the mission here in Iraq. I will present my first assessment to the incoming administration sometime in early 2009, likely after the provincial elections, and recommend whether or not we can further reduce troops from Iraq. It is very difficult to speak with precision on a long-term basis on this.

There is talk about disputes between the US and Iraqi sides over the strategic agreement to be signed between the two countries. These disputes are over issues such as the laws that govern private contractors, US troops and other related matters. Your comments ...

We must have a legal framework to continue to operate in Iraq and our legal framework ends on 31 December this year. I'm hoping that the teams now on the ground will be able to work on an agreement with the Government of Iraq. The Status of Forces Agreement (Sofa) is a bilateral agreement between two sovereign nations. Sofa will help normalise relations between the US and Iraq and remove Iraq from Chapter VII status.

Will the US troops train Iraqi soldiers after the agreement between the two countries is signed? And will the Iraqi troops be asked to join the US troops in operations outside Iraq?

We will continue to train the Iraqi security forces for as long as the government needs our assistance. Obviously we'll have to wait for the specifics of any agreement and you would have to talk to the people involved in the negotiations for the details. We assist in training now and provide a wide-range of advise. We look forward to the day when Iraq - like other sovereign nations - will contribute its forces to international peace-keeping missions.

Iraqi Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Al Mashadani has declared that Iraq is not capable of signing a strategic agreement with the US because it is a country under occupation. What is your take on that?

I believe that a Status of Forces agreement is a positive development for Iraq. Negotiations are currently under way to establish a future legal framework that enables us to operate here. I am hopeful the negotiating teams now in Iraq can arrive at an agreement.

Which is more reliable and strong from your point of view, the Iraqi defence forces or the Iraqi police?

Iraqi security forces have grown in capability and capacity and have proven their ability to conduct successful operations. The Iraqi army now operates throughout the country and has taken a lead role in many areas for providing security. The Iraqi police and National Police also continue to grow and show great improvements in maintaining peace in areas once riddled with violence. Direct comparisons in an overall sense are not useful because the size of each force means there are differences across the country within the army and police forces themselves.

The huge accomplishment of General David Petraeus and you is that you both worked hard and succeeded in pushing away the nightmares of a civil war in Iraq. Today, there is a map that shows Baghdad as an area almost empty of Sunnis. What do you think of this demographic shift and don't you think that this in itself will lead to friction and more bloodshed in the future?

During the last couple of years - and particularly after the destruction of the Samarra mosque - there has been considerable displacement, especially in Baghdad. We do not have precise details of who has been displaced from where. However, we are beginning to observe a steady trickle of Iraqis returning to their homes. And in mixed neighbourhoods, local leaders have set up reconciliation committees to help with the reintegration of the displaced back to their homes. There is financial support to those returning to their homes.

What are your priorities? Fighting Al Qaida, warding off sectarianism, backing the political process, stability and peace, the displaced people's portfolio, or other issues?

My priority is to help Iraq achieve its full sovereignty and ensure Iraq moves from a fragile state to a stable state. Coalition forces will continue to pursue Al Qaida and Special Groups that are focused on disrupting progress in Iraq. We will also continue to train and equip the internal security forces in order for them to become self-sufficient in providing security. Coalition forces will continue to support the Government as it addresses the key issues such as essential services [water, electricity, waste management].

We will assist, as requested, during the upcoming elections in Iraq, but let's be clear - the elections are solely an Iraqi enterprise.

What is the legal status of Al Sahwa members today [the Sons of Iraq]? Do you think they will be back to square one if they are not embraced by the Iraqi government?

From yesterday, the Iraqi government has taken the responsibility for integrating SOI members, beginning predominantly in and around Baghdad, into internal security and other services.

The Iraqi Prime Minister understands the importance of this issue. He has issued very specific guidance to his subordinate leaders in the Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Interior on integrating the SOI members into Iraqi security forces.

The situation in Diyala is still very cloudy and there are heavy Al Qaida "pockets" in the area. How safe is Diyala in your opinion?

Diyala still has problems with Al Qaida attempting to maintain and re-energise their presence there. However, the coalition forces and Iraqi security forces continue to put pressure on them, disrupting their safe havens and cutting off their supply lines. Like other areas in northern Iraq, Al Qaida is now on the run in Iraq, with fewer places to hide.

The Governor of Dhi-Qar said the members of the "Special Groups" enter through Iran in big numbers every day. There have been US statements to the effect that the Iranians will carry out political assassinations in Iraq before the elections. Why hasn't the Iraq-Iran boarder been secured yet?

Iraqi security forces and coalition forces continuously patrol the border and man control points.

However, the border between Iraq and Iran is vast. While it is impossible to monitor every possible entry point, Iraqi security forces and coalition forces continue to capture and stop many extremist elements attempting to cross the border.

What is the situation with Al Qaida in Iraq today? Are they really much weaker than before?

Al Qaida's effectiveness has decreased over the last 18 months ... However, they still remain a threat. They have fewer places to hide, but they are still carrying out terrorist activities. The Iraqi people are not passively supporting them to live and operate freely in their areas. The will of the people helped to drive them out and it is critical they continue to keep them out by alerting the Iraqi security forces and the coalition forces of their presence.

The Ministry of Interior has prepared a women's force to help in containing the problem of women suicide bombers. To what extent do you think this will work?

The coalition forces have also used special teams comprising women to specifically frisk females at checkpoints. This proved to be useful in finding weapons and explosives that would have gone unnoticed.

I will present my first assessment in early 2009, likely after the provincial elections, and recommend whether or not we can further reduce troops from Iraq.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 10:11 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

In case you were wondering why the exchange rate has remained the same with no movement.
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CBI cancels sessions during Eid

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Wednesday , 01 /10 /2008 Time 2:36:47




BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: The Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) has decided to cancel all sessions coinciding with the holiday period of Eid al-Fitr, or the Lesser Bairam.

"The bank has set an exchange rate of 1,179 Iraqi dinars per dollar for the two sessions following the Eid holiday," a source from the bank told Aswat al-Iraq.
Eid al-Fitr is a Muslim holiday that marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting. 'Eid' is an Arabic word meaning 'festivity,' while 'fitr' means 'to break the fast' (and can also mean 'nature,' from the word 'fitrah') and so symbolizes the breaking of the fasting period.
The Central Bank of Iraq runs a daily auction from Sunday to Thursday.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 10:13 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

De Mistura expressed diappointement for not including Article 50 in the Election Law 02/10/2008 15:53:00

Baghdad (NINA) - The Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary General for Iraq (SRSG) Staffan de Mistura said the United Nations is concerned at the extraction of Article 50 bearing on minority rights, from the provincial election law.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 10:16 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Adeeb calls for reconsidering election law to ensure minorities representation 02/10/2008 11:13:00

Baghdad (NINA) - Deputy Head of the Unified Iraqi Alliance (UIA) bloc in Parliament, Ali Adeeb, called for reconsidering the Provincial Councils Election Law as soon as possible to ensure fair representation of minorities in the up coming provincial elections.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 10:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi President arrives in Kurdistan from New York
After taking part in the U.N. General Assembly meetings Iraqi President returns to Kurdistan.

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Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on Monday arrived in the Erbil international airport coming from New York city after taking part in the U.N. General Assembly meetings.

"A number of senior Iraqi and Kurdish officials, including Kurdish President Massoud Barzani, Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi, Deputy Prime Minister Dr Barham Saleh,www.ekurd.net Kurdish parliament's Speaker Adnan al-Mufti and his deputy Kamal Kerkuki, and a number of ministers, received the president at the airport," the Kurdistan television reported.
The president underwent a successful heart surgery in the U.S. last August.

President Jalal Talabani warned that a delay in an agreement on the presence of US troops in the country beyond 2008 could undermine sovereignty. Talabani, who spent nearly two months in the US for medical treatment, said, however, that he expected an early conclusion of the Status of Forces Agreement (Sofa) between Washington and Baghdad.

"We hope to reach good results (on the Sofa agreement) because not reaching an agreement means it will lead to a daily violation of the sovereignty of Iraq," he said in Erbil,www.ekurd.net capital of Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan region.

Sofa is to put in place a deal for the future of US troops after the UN Security Council mandate for the multinational force expires on December 31.

But differences still remain, notably on granting immunity to US soldiers for any violations committed in Iraq and on the future command of military operations on the ground.

No fears of Arab-Kurdish conflict

Talabani said that there are no fears of an ethnic conflict that may erupt in Iraq, while the President of Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani admitted that the Kurdish role in the Iraqi army has been ignored.

"Arab-Kurdish relations always render brotherhood between the two races, and there are no fears that an ethnic conflict may erupt in Iraq," Talabani said in a press conference at Erbil International Airport, after he arrived from New York.

From his side, Barzani and during the same press conference denied that he accused Sunnis or Shiites of ignoring the Kurdish role in the Iraqi army.

"Kurdish role in the Iraqi army is ignored, but I did not accuse Sunnis or Shiites of standing behind this issue" Barzani said.

Talabani, 74, left Iraq on August 2 to undergo medical tests and treatment for his knee,www.ekurd.net but doctors carried out heart surgery after several tests showed that he had a coronary condition.

The ethnic Kurd, who has been president since 2005, travelled to the US for medical check-ups last year and was also treated for dehydration and exhaustion in neighbouring Jordan in February 2007.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 10:24 AM


Sara wrote:

I like looking at polling data.
But I noticed a change in the results with Barack Hussein Obama leading them about the 20th of last month.
Coincidentally, it corresponded with the new WEIGHTING they are giving the polling data.
Rasmussen said that as of September 20th, when they take in polling data, they weight the data...
and the new ratio is 39.0% Democrat to 33.5% Republican.

Now, they do fancy footwork (below) to explain why this is fair..
and they say this is what ALL the polling firms do.
However, the polling data IS weighted with 39.0% Democrat to 33.5% Republican.
That means they give Obama SIX points advantage in an even matchup.. TO START WITH.
SIX POINTS!!!
Don't you think that should figure even a LITTLE into your thinking about the polling data when it is given?
Remember.. ALL the polling firms do it:

Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large.

They say it is totally accurate and legitimate, of course.
But when you think of asking six percent MORE Democrats who will win the election than Republicans..
how do you think the polling results come out?
Can you predict the outcome?
Will the data tend to skew toward Obama.. or McCain?
Whether it reflects the population or not.. you can see the data will end up with MORE weight toward Obama...
by SIX percentage points.

Is it accurate and reasonable in your opinion to weight the polling data this way?
Supposing we decided to weight the data by race?
Since whites make up a larger majority, lets weight the poll so that it reflects the populace.
Now ask a question which is dear to the hearts of the black community...
like if there should be slavery reparations paid to the black community, for instance.
Then weight the data by population.
Fair? Accurate?
I think the black community might argue you are injecting white bias into the sample.
Perhaps it is "fair"..
But it is interesting to know they consistently WEIGHT the samples by SIX POINTS toward Obama, isn't it?
Just something to keep in mind when reading the polls..

Sara.

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New Rasmussen Reports Party Weighting Targets: 39.0% Democrat 33.5% Republican
Saturday, September 20, 2008

Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large. Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process (see methodology).

During the final two months of the election season, we are updating these targets on a weekly basis to stay current with the public mood. While partisan affiliation is generally quite stable over time, there are a fair number of people who waver between allegiance to a particular party or independent status. The intensity of a campaign season may cause subtle changes in the partisan landscape as Election Day draws near.

The targets are not set arbitrarily. Rather, they are established based upon survey interviews with a separate sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding six weeks. A total of 500 nightly interviews are conducted for a total of 21,000 interviews over the six week period.

This week’s adjustment shows a very slight increase in the number of Democrats, primarily offset by a decrease in the number of unaffiliated voters.

Results from this past week showed that the number of people considering themselves to Democrats spiked early in the week as the economic problems on Wall Street became visible. Overall, it was the best week for the Democrats since July. It remains to be seen whether this might lead to a lasting adjustment or be more of a bounce like that resulting from a party’s nominating convention.

For polling data released during the week of September 21-27, 2008, the partisan weighting targets used by Rasmussen Reports will be 39.0% Democratic, 33.5% Republican, and 27.5% unaffiliated. For the preceding week, September 14-20, 2008, the targets were 38.7% Democratic, 33.6% Republican, and 27.7% unaffiliated.

This week’s adjustment will have little impact on the daily Presidential Tracking Poll. However, if the partisan trends continue shifting, it could have a significant impact....

During Election 2006, there was a notable shift in partisan identification favoring Democrats as Election Day approached. During Election 2004, there was a notable shift in the opposite direction. It is impossible to know which direction this will flow during 2008 (see month-by-month results). These shifts correctly foretold the election outcome in both years.

Outside of the election season, our baseline targets are established based upon survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews) and targets have been updated monthly.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_rasmussen_reports_party_weighting_targets_39_0_democrat_33_5_republican

-- October 2, 2008 11:12 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Thanks so much for the posts on the Iraqis and UN looking into minority rights and protecting them. Without protection of minority rights, this "thin edge of the wedge" will balloon into outright persecution of minorities, starting with the smallest religious minorities and moving to the larger ones (such as the Sunni Awakening Council members.) And that would not end up well.

timbitts - an excellent post, thank you. :)

I liked your horse illustration, about using the bit in its mouth only as necessary to keep it on the road. If you have ever ridden a horse on a road or pathway, you know they tend to keeep on the path without much intervention by you anyway. It is rare they decide to go into uncharted territory. They are easily startled by dead branches which look a lot like snakes. So they like to keep to the main artery and generally they are not looking to do a lot of off-road exploring.

The illustration works well, with the free market doing what it does best, and only being reined in by the government if criminal laws are being broken or they threaten to head into the brier patch. This was a bad brier patch and I also believe the rider (government) saw it coming and did nothing to prevent it. Though the Republicans appeared to have tried to do so.. but they were blocked.

Apparently, the Republicans tried to privatize Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac.. but it went nowhere, of course. Changing riders (to the private sector running Fannie/Freddie) would have meant a real change of course away from the brier patch, now, wouldn't it?

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CBO Studied Privatizing Fannie/Freddie
Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, October 1st, 2008.

Believe it or not, the Congressional Budget Office was tasked during the GHW Bush administration in 1992 with studying the feasibility of privatizing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Four years later, in May of 1996 — during the Clinton administration, they finally published their findings in this CBO Study: (see image)

Surprisingly, in chapter three of their study, the CBO found that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were not so indispensable for low-income home ownership, after all: (see image of chapter)

In chapter four of this study the CBO even notes that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would fight tooth and nail against any possibility of privatization — and have in fact been doing so for years. (see image)

These 25 “Partnership Offices” were (and still are) working hand in glove with ACORN, La Raza and the National Urban League to agitate for the continuation and of course expansion of their programs.

Shockingly, the fifth and final chapter of the CBO Study says that, yes indeed, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could be readily privatized. (see image)

So it would seem the CBO thought it was possible to privatize these two institutions. Indeed, technically, it would just be a matter of removing the taxpayer subsidy.

But they anticipated quite a howl from the two GSEs.

The Student Loan Marketing Association did not have 25 community-based Partnership Offices.

The SLMA had not put so many politicians and political groups like ACORN on their payroll — to guarantee their jobs and outlandish profits in perpetuity.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/cbo-studied-privatizing-fannie-mae-in-1996

-- October 2, 2008 11:40 AM


mattuk wrote:

Terror threat no damper on Iraqi celebrations
By Basil Adas
Baghdad, 02 October 2008 (Gulf News)

Hundreds of Iraqi families continue to throng the Games City and Al Zawra Park, one of the most prominent entertainment sites in the capital, to enjoy Eid Al Fitr, despite increased security concerns over the bombings in Al Karrada district just two days before Eid.

"I came to the Games City here on Canal Street, east of Baghdad, and the one objective I have is to enjoy the holiday and spend a good time with my friends, playing the ship game and flying saucers," 14-year-old Riad Hamid told Gulf News.

This is the first time in five years that the Zawra Park near the Al Mansour district of Baghdad has hosted weddings, with families crowding and participating in the song-and-dance routine.

Faten Al Barak, an officer with the municipality, told Gulf News:

"Frankly, my enjoyment of Eid is more than ever before. I think all these families around me have come to Zawra Park with the same determination. We celebrate to defy the recent bombings in the Al Karrada neighbourhood, aimed at terrorising us and keeping us confined within our houses."

In the New Baghdad district, which has been exposed in the last few months to terrorist attacks, the scene has exceeded everyone's expectations. Hordes of people went out into the streets, with the children having a gala time at the playgrounds.

"Me and my friends are more enthusiastic about enjoying the Eid holidays for the simple reason that we are not afraid of terrorists," 27-year-old Jamal Sattee, who runs a clothing store for men in the neighbourhood, told Gulf News.

-- October 2, 2008 1:40 PM


mattuk wrote:

Baghdad seeks to buy arms from Europe
By Sylvia Pfeifer and Demetri Sevastopulo
London and Washington, 02 October 2008 (Financial Times)

The Iraqi government has begun talks with European allies about arms purchases as it rebuilds its military in a drive towards independence from US forces.

Iraqi representatives have visited UK defence officials in recent months as part of a series of “fact-finding” missions in Europe, according to people close to UK Trade & Investment, the agency charged with attracting investment into Britain.

“It is a concerted effort to see what is available in the marketplace,” said one official familiar with the talks. The Iraqis were interested in a range of equipment, from secure communication systems to border protection technology.

The talks underscore Iraq’s ambition to strengthen the capabilities of its security forces as they increasingly take over operational control from the US military. The US has also pushed to arm Iraq for the same reason.

Iraq has spent about $3bn (€2bn, £1.7bn) – money from its own resources – mostly on US-made military equipment, including rifles, pistols, ammunition, mortars, various aircraft, and a range of transport vehicles, through the US foreign military sales (FMS) programme since January 2007.

Some of the larger items include 140 Abrams tanks, made by General Dynamics, six Lockheed Martin C-130J military cargo aircraft, and 24 Russian-made Mi-17 armed reconnaissance helicopters.

US companies have already supplied roughly half the ordered equipment, while the remaining $1.5bn is under contract. Iraq has about $300m remaining in its FMS account, according to a Pentagon spokeswoman.

Future equipment sales are expected to be financed by Iraq’s rising oil revenues.

“They [the Baghdad government] are fighting for today and fighting for an independent military,” said Richard Aboulafia, defence expert at the Teal Group.

“The important thing is they are buying from western powers which implies, if not alignment, at least some co-operation moving forward. You buy Russian or Chinese arms when you don’t want to be dependent on western manufacturers.”

Michael O’Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution, described Iraq as “a big opportunity” for contractors. “Mideast oil producers are typically among the world’s biggest arms customers, and in this case, Iraq is starting almost from scratch,” he said.

“Now that Iraq’s army and police are well on the way to winning the internal fight against insurgents and militias, their natural tendency to worry about their neighbours is re-surfacing.”

Mr Aboulafia said the Iraqis would be looking to buy not just equipment, but also training and support.

-- October 2, 2008 1:43 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq to be influenced by credit crunch- expert
01 October 2008

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Co-CEO of the world's largest asset management company PIMCO Mohamed al-Erian said that Iraq will be affected by the global financial crisis.

Companies seeking to invest in Iraq, which he described as a poor country, will find it difficult to borrow money to achieve its plans, Erian said in an interview with NRC, a regional cross-border newspaper for the Dutch-German border.

According to Erian, the financial Tsunami has not reached emerging economies thus far, adding that if that happens, social consequences will be great.

The U.S. bailout plan is "a necessary step because the situation had to be stabilized," he noted.

Expressing his doubts about the adequacy of the measure, Erian said: "My sense is you need to do more. We are going to look back and 700 billion will not be the final number."

Commenting on the authorities' handling of the situation, Erian said: "The U.S. is not used to crisis management, particularly in what is seen as the most sophisticated financial system in the world. There is not enough information about the crisis. And when the authorities do have information, they realize their instruments are blunt."

Pacific Investment Management Company (PIMCO) is a leading investment management firm and provider of retirement solutions.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20081002081359

-- October 2, 2008 4:03 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I am not sure a revaluation is necessarily the method the CBI will use to affect a change in the exchange rate. I do not believe these articles about a zero lop. Using the lop is simply to discourage speculation in the currency. This proposed lop would also have a negative impact on the amount of shares those in the Iraqi Stock Market have. It seems many on this forum believe since the are in the ISX they are immune from the effects of a lop. This is not true.

Fiat currency in and of itself is not an effective mode of currency. It is used as a matter of convenience. An effective monetary policy in any country is to achieve the "real rate" of a currency. Iraq is no different. In Iraq's case a lop cannot achieve the "real rate" of the Dinar. On the other hand, an arbitrary revaluation or reversion without fiscal support is a recipie for hyper inflation leading to economic chaos.

Only through a free float backed by their monetized oil (petro dinars), cash reserves ($70 Billion), and gold reserves can Iraq achieve the Dinar's "real rate". Using this method not only achieves the "real rate" but communicates a stable currency that can be used in international exchanges. In this scenario, there is no logical reason for a lop or a logical reason for a reversion to some unrealistic number. Iraq can proceed with its introduction of the small denominations and phase out the larger notes.

In my view, this makes more sense than the constent bickering back and forth between those believing the CBI will lop and those believing they will magically revalue.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 4:11 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Just a thought, holding the new Iraqi Dinar may proove to be the best hedge against the current financial crisis. This may be especially true if the CBI implements a more flexible monetary policy by allowing the Dinar to free float.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 2, 2008 5:29 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Well said!

I also believe the Dinar may be a very good hedge against the currency crisis.
I believe they will pass the measure in Congress but I don't think we are out of the woods yet.

Again, intrinsic worth or value to the Iraqi Dinar makes it a good hedge.
Remember Iraq holds the third richest proven resources of oil in the world -
and they may be the richest if the unproven reserves show even more.

Sara.

-- October 2, 2008 6:53 PM


Sara wrote:

Palin, Biden trade barbs over economy, Iraq in spirited VP debate
October 2, 2008
Lee-Anne Goodman, THE CANADIAN PRESS

WASHINGTON - The confident Sarah Palin - the one who wooed Republicans soon after John McCain chose her as his running mate in August - re-emerged Thursday in a hotly anticipated vice-presidential debate that saw her hold her own against a razor-sharp Joe Biden.

Palin, spoke clearly and forcefully in short question-and-answer segments during the showdown in St. Louis.

Peppering her remarks with folksy phrases like "darn it," "doggone it," "Joe Six-Pack" and dropping her Gs as always, the Alaska governor repeatedly lauded McCain as a "man of reform" who's always tried to protect the American taxpayer.

"I may not answer the questions the way you or the moderator may want me to but I am going to talk straight to the American people," Palin, looking directly at the camera, said in the midst of a verbal clash with Biden over her insistence that her Democratic rivals were tax-happy.

Biden, known for being gaffe-prone himself and occasionally hot-headed, was eloquent, feisty at times, and even became briefly tearful recalling how his wife and infant daughter were killed in a car accident years ago and his two sons gravely injured.

But he was always polite toward Palin, who started out the debate harkening back to her Working Mom persona as she told of talking to other parents about Wall Street's financial meltdown.

"Go to a kids' soccer game on Saturday and turn to any parent on the sideline, and I betcha you're going to hear fear in that parent's voice," she said when asked about the economic crisis.

Biden, a longtime Democratic senator considered one of the most seasoned foreign policy experts on Capitol Hill, became spirited when the debate turned to the war in Iraq, fiercely disputing Palin's insistence that Obama has voted against funding U.S. troops while McCain has always voted in favour.

"John McCain voted to cut off funding for the troops," Biden said. "He voted against it because he said the amendment had a timeline in it to end the war and he didn't like that."

Biden and Palin also clashed over energy, global warming, taxes and government spending in their only debate.

All in all, the vice-presidential showdown was far more compelling, energetic and entertaining - and even moving when Biden became emotional - than the presidential debate last week in Mississippi.

While Palin misstated a couple of names, her onstage performance was peppered with the kind of modest, down-home language and demeanour that so charmed Republicans at the party's convention in Minnesota five weeks ago.

"Can I call you Joe?" she asked Biden, beaming as they shook hands, before the debate kicked off.

Toward the end of the debate she made a point of telling Biden how happy she was to have met him as the Delaware senator smiled widely and moments later returned the compliment.

Political junkies and everyday citizens alike had waited with bated breath for the faceoff, eager to see if Palin would defy her critics with a solid performance.

Instead, she far exceeded expectations, but many pundits said Biden's performance was the best of his career.

Palin caused a bounce in the polls to McCain in the first two weeks after his surprise pick of the self-described "hockey mom," especially among women.

In the days following the Republican National Convention and Palin's spirited speech at the event, the party claimed it had snagged one in five disgruntled Hillary Clinton backers who were furious at the way they felt the Obama campaign had treated their candidate during the Democratic primaries.

The Republicans reported Thursday that the party raised nearly US$66 million in September, breaking its all-time record.

The haul was credited to the strength of McCain and Palin and served as a reminder that she's brought money and energy to the Republican party.

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=w1002117A

-- October 3, 2008 1:46 AM


Sara wrote:

This seems to prove that Rasmussen saying ALL the polls overweight with Democrats is true.

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WaPo Ignores Its Own Poll Showing McCain Gain
By Tom Blumer
October 2, 2008

If Old Media can cook their numbers to make their favored candidate look good, they will.

Earlier today, I covered two cooked AP-GfK polls (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog). The pollster dramatically changed the party-ID makeup of the second poll to include a much higher percentage of Democrats, and watered down the strong-GOP component of the Republicans sampled. As a result, the two poll results, taken together, fabricated an illusion of Barack Obama momentum, and John McCain decline. The results couldn't be more bogus; holding the mix constant from one poll to the next would have caused John McCain's lead from three weeks ago to shrink by about 1%.

Its also seems that if Old Media can't use a poll to fabricate its way to the result it wants, it simply ignores it. Two examples from the same poll will demonstrate this.

On Wednesday, NewsBusters' Scott Whitlock noted that ABC ignored its own national poll conducted with the Washington Post that showed a 4% national edge for Barack Obama -- down from 9% the previous week.

Yesterday, the Washington Post's Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta didn't totally ignore the poll (full results are here). Like ABC, they ignored the topside result just mentioned, which is below:
QUOTE:

3. (ASKED OF REGISTERED VOTERS) If the 2008 presidential election were being held today and the candidates were (Barack Obama and Joe Biden, the Democrats) and (John McCain and Sarah Palin, the Republicans), for whom would you vote?

NET LEANED VOTE - LIKELY VOTERS

........................Obama......................McCain

9/29/08.............50..............................46
9/22/08...............52..............................43
9/7/08.................47..............................49
8/22/08...............49..............................45
7/13/08...............49..............................46
6/15/08...............47..............................48

==end quote==

Instead, the two reporters focused on questions that emphasized potential negatives relating to McCain's vice-presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, stating, "A month ago, voters rated Palin as highly as they did McCain or his Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, but after weeks of intensive coverage and several perceived missteps, the shine has diminished."

Cohen and Agiesta wrote over 1,100 words, yet never named a single "perceived misstep," let alone "several." That also seems to be a tacit acknowledgment that the Alaska Governor has committed no real missteps. Naming the ones that are "perceived" would be embarrassing -- not to Ms. Palin, but to the reporters and the Old Media establishment they represent. Just take your pick from Charles Martin's accumulated list of myths and rumors, now up to 97 (the first 85 are here; scroll through his content or search on each relevant number to find the rest), and you'll see what I mean.

Here's an obvious question: If Palin's alleged negatives on experience and readiness are such a "drag," why did Obama's lead over McCain get cut by over half in one week in that very same poll? The crosstabs, which are fairly consistent between the two polls, don't appear to explain McCain's improvement. Logically, whatever caused McCain to gain has to be a more important factor than the negative items relating to Palin that the WaPo reporters chose to dwell on.

No wonder Mr. Cohen and Ms. Agiesta ignored their own poll's overall result.

Comments:

1) Reason enough to ignore the by Smartypants

Reason enough to ignore the polls being pushed by the msm. Conservatives need to get out in force and be sure to vote on Nov 4. Do not allow yourselves to be demoralized by these loons. They try this tactic every election, claiming it's over before it's over. When McCain has a 4 point lead it means nothing to them. When Obama has one, the race is over. Right.

Get your friends, neighbors, co-workers out to vote on Nov. 4. I want to wake up on Nov. 5 and hear all of the stories of how the Republicans stole another election; it will be music to my ears.

2) Media in panic mode by 10ksnooker

They realize that no one is going to vote for a Communist, even if he is black.

Riddle me this:
How is an associate of David Duke different from an associate of Rev Wright?

Optional question: Would you vote for an associate of David Duke?

3) »→ Answer by Cool Arrow

An associate of David Duke wouldn't make it past the filing stage for either major party.

4) That's what gets to me about by Seashell

That's what gets to me about the Rev. Wright situation. If McCain had had a character like this as a part of his life AND as a part of his campaign, (even if he hired the guy to pick up the trash on the bus at the end of the day), McCain would never have survived-he'd be gone, finished, Don Imused!

5) You could pick just one, by Smartypants

You could pick just one, any one, of Obama's gaffes or past and present relationships, and that would be sufficient to eliminate any Republican candidate for office. If McCain had described anyone as a "typical black person" as Obama said about his own grandmother ("typical white person"), it would be over. If McCain associated even loosely with the likes of William Ayers, Anthony Rezko, Reverend Wright, etc. it would be over for him. It is unfathomable that Obama has all of this baggage on him and it does not matter. Obama could be photographed committing murder tomorrow and it would not matter to the press.

6) I was on a flight back home by ThisnThat

I was on a flight back home today, and overheard a conversation on tonight's debate. One of the passengers was very adament. He said "I'm a life-long democrat, but there's no way I am voting Democrat this year. I want someone in office that won't take my money away. I'm 58 and have lost $70,000 in my 401K this year".

That's only a poll of 1, but it's typical of other conversations I have overheard this past month.

7) TnT... I had a similar by Clear thinker

TnT... I had a similar experience today but the subject was guns. A few hardcore Dems I was talking with this morning.. and I said to them "I wonder why Obama is against people owning guns" . They all went "HUH?", and I said that Obama has wanted to change guns laws for quite awhile, and basically take them from citizens just like them. After alot of swearing they said they won't vote for (him).

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/10/02/wapo-ignores-its-own-poll-showing-mccain-gain-focuses-palin-allegedly-dr

-- October 3, 2008 2:22 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tim Bitts, Sara and anyone else who's interested,

I find myself in disagreement with you two that the USA should bailout these banks that gave out mortgages to people who could not afford them; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's business practices (bonuses for CEO based on amount of mortgage loans given out); and sub-prime loans to people who could not afford the mortgages in the first place. Then there are the business practices of greed and corruption on Wall Street leading to bad risk decisions that lead to financial loses.

I for one am mad as hell. I want an investigation and I want some people to go to jail. Having said this, this investigation needs to be an independent council and not congress policing themselves as they are the ones I want investigated. I want to clear out all the congressional offices (both House and Senate) and I think the american public feels the same way.

Now onto the economics of this bailout. This bill rewards the very people who ripped off the american taxpayer. I am not in favor of this. I also note that congress (senate) thinks the american people are stupid. The senate tacked all types of earmarks on this more recent bill that was passed in the senate and now to be heard in the House. I am hoping the House has the sense to defeat this bill. They will do the american people a great favor.

There is another reason I am against this passing of a bailout. There are major economists MIT and others that are telling the congress to let the free market work on these losses. One economist is in my backyard. According to Weiss Research economists, they predicted this crash as early as 2004.

Martin Weiss, Ph.D. (in economics from Columbia University) and Michael D. Larson wrote a paper entitled "$700 Billion Bailout Is Too Little, Too Late to End the Debt Crisis; Too Much, Too Soon for the U.S. Bond Market." I have read this paper. According to this paper, the USA debt in mortgages alone is estimated to be 3.2 trillon dollars.

They give details on how they derive these figures and tell the reader that the USA government does not want the public to know how bad the situation really is. They conclude the above statement by the government's representatives silence and reassurances given by our government officials that passing this bailout will solve the financial uncertainities.

Given that 3.2 trillon and 700 billion dollars are not even close in numbers... one would have to conclude that it will not be long before the government comes for another 700 billion dollars and then another. This is a really slippery slope. 700 billion is just a drop in the bucket from 3.2 trillon dollars. The Government is lying to us that this bailout is going to stop banks and other businesses from going under as government does not have enough money to rescue Wall Street. According to Weiss, business and bank failures are going to happen anyway, despite this bailout.

Martin Weiss and Michael Larson advise congress to leave the market to wall street to adjust for these losses and for government to not buy the paper on these mortgages or take on bad business losses from wall street due to brokers/banks taking undue risks. They instead advise congress to use this $700 billion to protect the little guy (small businesses and the credit market) and taxpayers of middle and lower income people. They advise congress to invest money to protect us only from these failing banks.

Despite whether the bailout happens or not, bank and business failures are going to happen and they predict a black October financially for our nation. The bailout is a bailout for the rich companies who have already made off with huge profits due to greed and corruption. As to which ones, again this needs to be investigated.

Given what Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D. and Michael D. Larson are saying (and other economists that have written to congress) they all agree that the free market needs to take care of these losses. Even some of our top business people believe the same...I listened to a hotel giant (very rich man) say exactly the same thing.

Therefore, I am hoping the House of Respresentatives fails this bill tommorrow. May God help them.

Laura Parker

-- October 3, 2008 4:34 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Oh and by Weiss's estimates, 49 per cent of these subprime loans for mortgages are held by Chase Manhatten Bank. I thought that interesting.

Laura Parker

-- October 3, 2008 4:41 AM


mattuk wrote:

Project Iraq 2008
November 04 - November 07 2008

The International Trade Exhibition for Construction Technology, Building Materials and Equipment.
Erbil International Fair Ground, Kurdistan, Iraq.

Iraq Construction Drive Offers Billions of Dollars in Business Development Prospects

Iraq is in need of a full range of infrastructure related products, services and systems, including: hospital equipment and supplies, security products, road and rail machinery, oil production equipment and finance and telecom systems. Work on hundreds of major projects worth $43.5 billion - pledged by the interim Iraqi government with funds from Iraq's own oil revenues - is moving ahead.

Reconstruction contracts are no longer restricted to a number of countries. They are now being awarded and supervised by Iraqi ministries, a development that has encouraged suppliers and contractors from around the world to come forward and grab a share of the multi billion-dollar redevelopment process. It is estimated that over the next four years, Iraq's new government will be spending more than $150 billion on reconstruction of key sectors.

Construction industry players eying Iraq's huge reconstruction process and the billions of business dollars it is generating will be able to display their products at the Project Iraq 2008 exhibition. Project Iraq 2008 will highlight the vast scale of reconstruction needs in Iraq: power facilities and electrical grids have to be restored, oil and gas supplies nurtured, airports, roads and schools rebuilt and seaports transformed.

Rebuilding of Iraq’s Main Sectors & Infrastructure To Cost Over $35 Billion

A joint United Nations/World Bank assessment of funding needs for reconstruction in Iraq during the period 2004-2008 identified 14 sectors and associated funding needs, worth US$36 billion, as shown in the table below. In addition, the Coalition Provisional Authority estimated an additional US$20 billion in needs, including US$5 billion for security and police, and US$8 billion for oil industry infrastructure.

Needs (US$ billion)
Government Institutions 0.39
Education 4.81
Health 1.60
Employment Creation 0.79
Transport and Telecommunications 3.41
Water, Sanitation, Solid Waste 6.84
Electricity 12.12
Urban Management 0.41
Housing and Land Management 1.42
Agriculture and Water Resources 3.03
State-Owned Enterprises 0.36
Financial Sector 0.081
Investment Climate 0.34
Mine Action 0.23

Total 35.82

Iraq Seeks $33 billion in Foreign Direct Investment; US paying out $200 million a week to Contractors

Iraq's government believes it can attract $33 billion in Foreign Direct Investment, adding to the $33 billion in aid pledged by foreign donors. Meanwhile, US officials overseeing Iraq's reconstructions confirm that projects are moving ahead. They say that the US is paying out about $200 million a week to contractors and that $5.3 billion out of $18.4 billion appropriated by the US Congress in 2003 has already been disbursed. A further $12.9 billion has been 'obligated' - or placed under contract. The overall reconstruction process is progressing rapidly.

Investment in Kurdistan Region Bolstered by One of the of the Most Liberal Laws in the Middle East

A new investment law for the Kurdistan region, offering generous incentives to foreign investors, is being cited as one of the most investor-friendly laws in the Middle East.

The legislation includes tax and customs breaks for up to 10 years from the start of operations. Subject to import licenses, equipment will be customs free and customs relief will be available for spare parts and raw materials.

Under the new law, 100% foreign ownership is permitted, as is the freedom to repatriate profits and capital. In addition, subject to approval from the regional Investment Board, the law allows controlled foreign ownership of land [unless it contains oil, gas, or heavy mineral resources]. Additional discretionary incentives will be available for projects with local participation and projects in disadvantaged areas or for disadvantaged communities.

Be a Key Player in the World's Greatest Reconstruction Effort

Project Iraq 2008, the International Trade Exhibition for Construction Technology, Building Materials and Equipment, will highlight the most ambitious reconstruction project of our time. It will be one of the largest and most comprehensive Iraq reconstruction trade events ever held in Iraq. Jointly organized by the International Fairs and Promotions Group (IFP Group) and IFP Iraq - two leading exhibition organizers with a successful record of more than 360 internationally-accredited trade shows in the Middle East over the past 28 years - the show will be a model of professionalism.

Project Iraq 2008 will offer exhibitors an exceptional opportunity to meet buyers and decision-makers from Iraq, Jordan and across the Middle East. Participants will enjoy direct access to Iraqi and international officials and contractors involved hands-on with reconstruction projects throughout Iraq. Material supply and technical cooperation contracts worth millions of dollars will be signed.

-- October 3, 2008 9:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Russia companies must sooner join in Iraq oil-gas sector development

Problems of Russian companies inclusion in the development of the oil-ad-gas sector of Iraq's economy must be resolved as soon as possible, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Saltanov said during a conversation with Iraq's ambassador to Moscow Abdulkarim Hashim Mostafa on Thursday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:16 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Central Bank plans to strengthen Dinar
(Noozz Editorial) Oct 3 2008.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Parliament to discuss appendix to election law, says Bayati 03/10/2008 13:38:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP Abbas al-Bayati has reveled the parliament's intention to include discussing an addition of an appendix to the provincial elections law over minorities' representation in the forthcoming elections in next Tuesday's parliamentary session.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:20 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Khalaf: Diyala security forces respond to chieftain's assassination attempt 03/10/2008 12:40:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The ministry of interior has announced killing two gunmen and detaining four others during clashes that took place in Diyala province last Thursday in relation to an attempt to assassinate a tribal chieftain in the province.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Maliki sacks a top military commander for security breaches

Military and Security 10/3/2008 12:53:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 2 (KUNA) -- Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki sacked on Thursday a senior military commander and referred him for investigation after security breaches occurred in the region he was entrusted to oversee.
Iraqi State television said al-Maliki as commander-in-chief of the Iraqi armed forces ordered the dismissal of commander of the Third Battalion which is part of the First Brigade Group in charge of the national police. The commander was asked to retire.
The Third Battalion in the First Brigade currently oversees policing in the area of Karrada, one of the most important areas of central and eastern Baghdad. Karrada has seen recently numerous security breaches in the way of attacks by car bombs and improvised explosive devices that killed dozens of Iraqi civilians. It was not possible to contact the Iraqi Interior Ministry to know the name of the commander or whether the areas of Zaafaraniya and New Baghdad, which have witnessed suicide attacks today, are within the responsibility of the commander or not. It should be noted that the areas of Zaafaraniya and New Baghdad are close to the district of Karrada in Baghdad and have seen today suicide bombings that caused the deaths of two suicide bombers and the wounding of about 71 people in attacks described by the Iraqi Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi as an attempt to incite sedition in the country. (end) ahh.ajs KUNA 030053 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:23 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Awakening Ends in Iraq
The US military is disengaging from the Awakening program - the league of Sunni forces who defeated al-Qaeda in Iraq - and the program is now turned over to the Shiite government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. And now the Sunnis look to ally with Russia, says Robert Dreyfuss.

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In an exclusive interview with The Nation, the commander of the Sunni-led Awakening movement in Baghdad says that attacks by the Iraqi government and government-allied militiamen against Awakening leaders and rank-and-file members are likely to spark a new Sunni resistance movement. That resistance force will conduct attacks against American troops and Iraqi army and police forces, he says. "Look around," he says. "It has already come back. It is getting stronger. Look at what is happening in Baghdad."

The commander, Abu Azzam, spoke to The Nation by telephone from Amman, Jordan, last week, before returning to Baghdad.

He laid out a scenario for a new explosion in Iraq, one that would shatter the complacent American notion that the 2007-08 "surge" of American troops in Iraq has stabilized that war-torn country. Although the greater US force succeeded in putting down some of the most violent sectarian clashes, it was the emergence of the Awakening movement in 2006 that crushed Al Qaeda in Iraq and brought order to Anbar and Baghdad.

Beginning October 1, the Iraqi government is responsible for the Awakening movement, which includes about 100,000 mostly Sunni fighters in the provinces of Anbar, Salahuddin and Diyala and in the mostly Sunni western suburbs of Baghdad. Made up of many former Baathists, ex-military officers from the Saddam Hussein era and other assorted secular nationalists, the Awakening (in Arabic, sahwa, also referred to by the US military as the Sons of Iraq) involves thousands of former guerrillas from the 2003-07 Iraqi resistance.

The sectarian Shiite government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki views the Awakening movement with extreme suspicion, and the feeling is mutual. According to several Iraqi sources interviewed for this article, there is a grave possibility that the relative calm that has prevailed in Iraq over the past year will be shattered if the Shiite-led government and its allied militia, the Badr Brigade of the pro-Iranian Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq (ISCI), engage in an armed power struggle with the Awakening forces for control of western Baghdad.

So far, the United States is trying to cajole Maliki into supporting the Awakening, offering $300 to $500 per month for each member of the Sunni militia. At the same time, US military officers in Iraq have promised to guarantee the payments to the Sunni forces and to shield the Awakening from attacks or reprisals by the regime. But among Sunnis, including those interviewed for this story, there is widespread concern that they are on their own and that the United States will not abandon the government in Baghdad despite its sectarian, pro-Iran leanings.

In that case, said a former top Iraqi official, many Sunnis may turn to an unlikely source for support: Russia. "The Russians are very active," he said. "They are talking with many Iraqis, including resistance leaders and Awakening members, in Damascus, Syria. They are in discussions with big Baathists." According to this official, former Baathists, army officers and Awakening members in Damascus, Amman and inside Iraq are looking to Russia for support, especially since Russia seems intent on reasserting itself in the Middle East. "The Russians intend to come out strongly to play with the Sunnis," he said. "I heard this from sahwa members in Damascus and Amman. 'If the Americans abandon us, we will go to the Russians.'"

Abu Azzam, who helped found the Awakening in the Baghdad area, is based in the Abu Ghraib suburb of the capital, and he is the commander for the region. Over the past several months, he said, "hundreds" of his fighters have been assassinated by the Badr militia or killed in battles with Iraqi police forces controlled by ISCI's Badr Brigade. Last month, the police issued a warrant for Abu Azzam's arrest, but Maliki quashed it after a brief period of confusion. "The Ministry of Justice and the police in Iraq are controlled by the religious parties," Abu Azzam said. "It wasn't a real arrest warrant." Still, it was unsettling to the movement, and it was widely taken as a sign of things to come.

According to the New York Times, Maliki's government has ordered the arrest of 650 Awakening leaders in the Baghdad area and hundreds more north of the capital, in Diyala province. The Times quoted Jalaladeen al-Saghir, a top official of ISCI's Badr Brigade, saying, "The state cannot accept the Awakening. Their days are numbered."

The Iraqi government has pledged to enroll 20 percent of the Awakening force in the army and police. But that pledge is seen by most Sunnis as an action by Maliki to keep the Americans happy -- even though Maliki has no intention of keeping his promise.

"Maliki tells the Americans what he thinks they want to hear," an Awakening leader tells The Nation. "I tell the Americans all the time that it is a trick, but they don't understand. The Americans are so naïve. They assume good will on the part of Maliki. We don't understand. The Americans know that Maliki is working closely with the Iranians, so why do they believe him? Why do they listen to him?"

According to Abu Azzam, the fact that 80 percent of the Awakening forces will be kept out of the security services means that they won't have work, and they will be angry. "The government's plan is to take the 20 percent, bring them into the security forces, but move them out of the neighborhoods where they are based," he says. That's foolish, he adds, because those militia forces know the neighborhoods, and they know a lot about pro-Al Qaeda and pro-Sunni Islamist radicals, house by house. "If you move them, you lose all that knowledge," he says. "And then they replace them with Iraqi army units that are mostly made up of sectarian Shiite forces." It is a formula for disaster, and a new civil war.

Last week, the Iraqi Parliament passed a flawed but workable law to govern provincial elections, which are expected to be held early in 2009. Abu Azzam is forming his own political party, the Iraqi Dignity Front, to compete mostly in the Baghdad suburbs. In other provinces, there are other parties emerging out of the Awakening, including the Anbar-based National Front for the Salvation of Iraq. Most of the Awakening-linked parties are expected to sweep the Sunni vote in Anbar, Salahuddin, Diyala and the western suburbs of Baghdad, delivering a knockout blow to the Iraqi Islamic Party, the Muslim Brotherhood-linked Sunni religious bloc that at times has been part of Maliki's coalition. The Iraqi Islamic Party was elected with only 2 percent of the Sunni vote, when nearly all Sunnis boycotted the rigged 2005 elections.

Sheikh Ali Hatim, leader of the National Front for the Salvation of Iraq, told an Arabic-language newspaper: “We are waging a battle of destiny against the Islamic Party. Al Qaeda does not pose any danger to Iraq anymore, and it is finished. The real danger are those that fight us in the name of legitimacy and religion -- I mean the Islamic Party. Had it not been for the intervention of the government and the US forces, this party would not have lasted for two days in Al-Anbar.”

But the pro-Awakening parties are far more concerned about the threat from Maliki and the ISCI-Badr forces than they are with the Iraqi Islamic Party, which does not have a militia of any consequence. And there is no guarantee that they will be satisfied with participation in a political process that restricts them to elections in Anbar and a few other Sunni strongholds yet keeps them out of power in Baghdad and in the central government -- especially if the campaign of violence and assassination continues against their fighters.

According to Iraqi sources, the assassinations of key Sunni leaders are being carried out by death squads associated with the Badr Brigade, often supported directly by units from Iran's intelligence service, which works closely with Badr forces. Since 2003, the Badr Brigade and Iran's intelligence service have assassinated thousands of former Baathists, army and air force officers; Sunni intellectuals and professionals; and others opposed to Iran's influence in Iraq.

Many Iraq experts in Washington discount the possibility that the Russians would lend their support to a new resistance force in Iraq, but they do not entirely rule it out.

Earlier this month, a former top Baathist official openly called on Moscow for help. Salah Mukhtar, who was an aide to Tariq Aziz, the former Iraqi foreign minister under Saddam, and who was Iraq's ambassador to India and Vietnam, said that Russia's "pre-emptive step in Georgia is a formidable act from the strategic point of view in its timing, aims and tactics," and he called on Russia to direct its attention to Iraq:

The United States' Achilles' heel is Iraq.... The US colonialist project to have absolute control over our planet can be buried in Iraq.

Only through backing the patriotic Iraqi resistance and strengthening its military capabilities can we accelerate the end of US colonialism all over the world.... The key to defeat the United States in the world and to corner it into isolation is Russia providing support to the Iraqi resistance directly or indirectly.

The key to freeing the world by muzzling the United States requires Russian involvement in the Iraq battle.

Despite the bravado in that statement, it's not impossible that Russia might be toying with the idea of engaging the United States in the Middle East more directly. In all likelihood, it would depend on a significant further deterioration of US-Russian relations over Georgia, Iran, and other points of contention. In the meantime, though, it is likely that Russian intelligence agents are quietly connecting with Iraqis.

The bottom line is that despite the deceptive calm in Iraq, the country remains poised to explode. Not only it is possible that the Sunni-Shiite war could reignite but another flashpoint is developing in the north and northeast of Iraq, involving Kurds' aspirations to aggrandize their territory. Both Sunni and Shiite Arabs in Iraq would oppose any further Kurdish expansionism, especially the Kurds' desire to take control of oil-rich Kirkuk and Tamim province. And there is still the possibility that the forces of rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr night reassert themselves, with Iranian backing, if Maliki were to cave in to US demands for a status-of-forces agreement and a US-Iraq treaty that cedes too much of Iraq's sovereignty to the American occupation forces.

Robert Dreyfuss is a contributing editor of The Nation magazine, and the author of Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam (Metropolitan).
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The article I just posted I think justifies the continued necessity for our presence in Iraq. A precipitous is not the answer for the long term stablization of the country.

More importantly, I read today where the elections law passed and the next step is in the publication of the gazzette. Our presence there will ensure a relatively peaceful election process.

The provincial elections are very important. The future of the country depends upon the election of a prime minister who has Iraq as his focus. I hope to see a different prime minister who separates himself from the influence of Iran.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 10:42 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob, I think you're absolutely right, that America must stay in Iraq. My position for a long time has been to stay, try to stabilize the country, then after doing as much as common sense says you should, retreat to military bases, for a long term stay, and let Iraqis sort out their problems.

I think that has been the plan all along. They just haven't told the public.

I don't think America can solve every problem, or force a solution, or accomadation, but American presense in Iraq helps promote stability. And if, in the end, after being helped, Iraqis can't sort out their differences, and a bloodbath occurs, I'd say America should let it happen. In my opinion, in about a year and a half, I think America has done all it could. After that, it's up to the Iraqis. Whatever will be, will be.

But whatever the timeline is, I'm convinced commanders on the ground will know exactly how long to fight, and when to quit fighting, and let them sort it out themselves.

And if that backfires, and America has to deal with a bloody dictator running Iraq, because Iraqis blew the chance to have a peaceful democracy, I'd say let it happen. The oil will still flow under a new Saddam, even as the blood flows also.

And if that occurs, and the Iraqi people suffer, they have only themselves to blame for their incompetance. America is giving them a once-in-a-thousand-years opportunity, to leave their bloody past behind, turn their country around and have a peaceful, tolerant, democratic and rich country. They should be grateful for that. If they are too stupid and disagreeable with each other to see that, and turn it around, that's their problem.

In any case, the oil will flow, and the Dinar will soar in value.

-- October 3, 2008 11:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Here is the article I was looking for.
__________________________________________________________

Iraq presidency approves provincial election law

SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq, Oct 3, 2008 (AFP) - Iraq's three-member presidency council on Friday approved a long-delayed provincial election law, clearing the final hurdle for polls to go head early next year, an official present at the meeting told AFP.

"The presidency council has adopted the provincial election law," said the official, who is a member of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) party.

Talabani and Vice Presidents Adel Abdel Mahdi and Tareq al-Hashemi were all present at the meeting, which was also attended by Massud Barzani, president of Iraq's autonomous Kurdish region.

The council's stamp of approval means Iraq can now finally go ahead with the polls which had originally been scheduled for October 1.

Iraq's 275-member parliament finally passed the law on September 24 but, in a move that has drawn UN criticism, MPs scrapped a key clause that would have reserved seats on provincial councils for Christians and other minorities.

The presidency council called on MPs to reinstate the clause, the official said.

Elections will be held early next year in 14 of Iraq's 18 provinces. The new law excludes the disputed northern oil province of Kirkuk and the three Kurdish provinces of Arbil, Dohuk and Sulaimaniyah.
(www.zawya.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 3, 2008 11:59 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura,

Very interesting. Yes, the market could sort it out. There's no doubt about it. And I think the bailout has a chance to stabilize things. It all depends on what you want.

I think the bailout is designed to keep the current financial and power arrangements as they are. Don't rock the boat, I think is the message of the bailout. Don't rock the boat, because the truth probably is, I'm guessing, the Democrats and Republicans and Wall Street are all in on it, or responsible, in some way, for this mess.

My guess is the entire political and economic elite in America is corrupt, to some degree. Whether through negligence, or bad economic philosophy, or greed, they all share in the blame. Now, if that is so, where does the average American turn to?

Because I'm basically talking about most of the current leadership class, in America. As I said in a previous post, I don't believe for a second, that Wall Street and Democratic and Republican leadership didn't see this coming. If they did see it coming, they didn't stop it and are corrupt, and should be replaced. If they didn't see it coming, they are incompetant, and should be replaced.

And at the core of what I am saying, is trust and morality. Capitalism will eventually breakdown without an elite that is competant, and can be trusted. That is at the heart of what has made America great, in the past, in my opinion. The people who founded America, and many American Presidents from the past were, truly great men, some of the greatest in history, by anyone's estimation. That's why America became a great nation: Great leaders, with good morals. Without decent public morals, including morals involved in economic management, like basic honesty, the whole thing eventually breaks down.

So, besides the huge amount of money involved, that is so big it will have a significant effect on each and every American, and their standard of living, there is the issue of: can ordinary Americans trust their elites? If they can't trust their elites to lead them, America could be in very, very big trouble. Corrupt, untrustworthy elites are the reason banana republics are what they are.

I was watching the Daily Show with Jon Stewart the other day. I don't agree with him on many things, but I thought he had an astute observation. He said that as he was watching President Bush talk about the financial crisis, President Bush seemed to him, as just another media pundit, commenting on the situation.

That's a very sad and telling commentary, when an American President is compared in stature and influence, with a dime-a-dozen media hack, commenting on the news. Media pundits are not held in very high esteem. I've heard a lot of people, for many years now, including Jon Stewart, take cheap shots and President Bush. Now, I've always believed in free speech, including the right to ridicule leaders, but I've noticed a change over the years. High elected officials, right up to the President, are not given the kind of respect they used to, in the past.

And I tolerate ridicule only if I know that behind that ridicule, is a basic underlying social respect, that is an accepted norm. It's a bit like swearing. Swear words are only effective if there is a strong social taboo against them. Take away that social taboo, and what you are left with is only vulgarity. Take away trust, and ridicule becomes just vulgar chaos, and social anarchy. Not good.

Now, some people would say this sort of thing, about trust, is all about President Bush, since he is unpopular with Democrats. I disagree. I think it's deeper than that. I think there is a breakdown in public trust, in the United States, of their elites. Only 9% of Americans thing Congress is doing a good job.

And President Bush did not even have enough clout to change the minds of Republicans, on the bailout. Now, whether the bailout is a good, or bad idea, think about that: A sitting American president tried to rally people in his own party, to support a particular measure, in a time of grave national peril, to follow him, and he wasn't able to lead, and wasn't listened to. Is that good? I don't think so. Without basic trust, how can a leader lead?

So all of this is obviously related to the financial crises. Much of the public feels that the powers that be, both parties and Wall Street, are irresponsible, and can't be trusted to lead the country. I hope what I am saying is absolute baloney, because if what I'm saying is right, America is headed for really big problems down the road.

Trust is at the heart of all relationships, including citizenship, and capitalism. Break that down, and you endanger the validity of the whole system.

I don't know if Americans should pray, or take to the streets with pitchforks and torches.

So, Laura, if the bailout fails, I have no doubt it will sort itself out eventually, in the markets. But in the meantime, there will be economic chaos, people will lose homes and jobs, and there will be a political earthquake in America. So, bailout or no bailout? I don't know. A bailout will keep the corrupt system in place, with the hope that political leaders reform things. Or no bailout would bring chaos for a few years, as the whole political and economic system is given a good shake.

Americans will have to decide which option they want, and live with the consequences, good and bad, and unexpected.

-- October 3, 2008 1:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

I am glad you are mad about this.
Hopefully some light will be shed on who is responsible.
In the youtube below, yesterday, O'Reilly tore into Barney Frank over the crisis he has presided over.
I think you can appreciate his expressing frustration at those who will not take responsibility.

Certainly, Sarah Palin's remarks in the VP debate about needing to go after corruption have marks to hit...
in spite of such denials of any responsibility while holding the majority in Congress.

I agree with Noel's comments below:

.. if the American people actually were told the truth about the real foundation of today's financial industry meltdown we'd likely be looking at a Republican landslide at the polls next month. Instead, our press have complicity added to the misinformation campaign of the Democrats, and shamefully hid the truth from the public.

Sara.

===

O'Reilly Tears Barney Frank Apart Over Fannie and Freddie
By Noel Sheppard
October 3, 2008

Finally, someone in the media accurately accused and challenged a member of Congress over his involvement and complicity in the current financial crisis.

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8

As press member after press member has allowed Democrats to shamefully and erroneously blame the current crisis on George W. Bush, virtually nobody other than folks at Fox News has been willing to examine the role elected officials on the left side of the aisle have been playing for more than a decade in blocking tighter regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

That changed Thursday when Fox's Bill O'Reilly absolutely tore Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) apart concerning his involvement in the current fiasco,
QUOTE:

O'REILLY: "Personal story" segment tonight, the financial chaos in this country is largely the fault of the citizens who cannot pay their obligations, banks who lent money to unqualified people, and the federal government which failed to provide oversight. Both political parties are to blame as I've stated.

Now "The Factor" has called on SEC Chairman Christopher Cox to resign, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd to quit, and House Finance Chief Barney Frank to step down from his position. That's because for the past two years, Frank and his committee oversaw Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two government sponsored lending agencies which pretty much are bankrupt. Congressman Frank was asked about Freddie and Fannie on July 14, 2008.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D), MASSACHUSETTS: I think this is a case where Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound, that they are not in danger of going under. They're not the best investments these days from the long- term standpoint going back. I think they are in good shape going forward. They're in a housing market. I do think their prospects going forward are very solid. And in fact, we're going to do some things that are going to improve them.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'REILLY: Well, obviously, that statement turned out not to be true. Joining us now from Washington is Congressman Frank. And we appreciate you coming in, being a standup guy, but shouldn't everybody in the country be angry with you right now?

FRANK: No. You've misrepresented this consistently. I became chairman of the committee on January 31st, 2007. Less than two months later, I did what the Republicans hadn't been able to do in 12 years -- get through the committee a very tough regulatory bill. And it passed the House in May.

I've always felt two things about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, that they had an important role to play, but that the regulations should be improved.

Now from 1995 to 2006, when the Republicans controlled Congress, and we were in the minority, we couldn't get that done. Although in 2005, Mike Oxley, of Sarbanes-Oxley fame, a pretty tough guy on regulation, did try to put a bill through to regulate Fannie Mae. I worked with him on it. As he told "The Financial Times," he thought ideological rigidity in the Bush administration stopped that. But the basic point is that the first time I had any real authority over this was January of 2007. And within two months, we had passed the bill that regulated.

O'REILLY: OK. And that's true, all of that is true.

FRANK: And then also, one other point. The Senate was dragging its feet, as often happens. And in January of 2008, I asked Secretary Paulson to put in the stimulus bill. So the earliest chance I got to put tough regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we did it.

O'REILLY: All right, that's swell. But you still went out in July and said everything was great. And off that, a lot of people bought stock and lost everything they had.

FRANK: Oh, no.

O'REILLY: And -- yes, oh yes. Oh, yes.

FRANK: I said it wasn't a good investment.

O'REILLY: Don't give me any of that, we just heard the words. What are you.

FRANK: That's wrong.

O'REILLY: .that you didn't say that? You want me to play it again for you?

FRANK: You didn't listen to it.

O'REILLY: No, I listened to every word you said. And I have the transcript right here.

FRANK: No, and I said it wasn't a good investment.

O'REILLY: Yes, you said going forward, we're going to be swell. For look.

FRANK: No, I didn't say swell. Excuse me, Bill.

O'REILLY: .from August `07 to August '08.

FRANK: Excuse me, Bill.

O'REILLY: Don't - look, stop the B.S. here. Stop the crap! From August '07 to August '08.

FRANK: You know, here's the problem going on your show.

O'REILLY: .under your tutelage, this industry.

FRANK: Here is the problem going on your show.

O'REILLY: .declined 90 percent. 90 percent.

FRANK: Yes, but.

O'REILLY: Oh, none of this was your fault! Oh, no. People lost millions of dollars. It wasn't your fault. Come on, you coward! Say the truth.

FRANK: What do you mean coward?

O'REILLY: You're a coward. You blame everybody else. You're a coward.

FRANK: Bill, here's the problem with going on your show. You start ranting. And the only way to respond is almost to look as boorish as you. But here's the facts. I specifically said in the quote you just played that I didn't think it was a good investment. I wasn't telling anybody to buy stock. I said it wasn't a good investment.

Secondly, I wasn't presiding idly over this. I was trying to get the regulations adopted.

O'REILLY: Look.

FRANK: We got them adopted in May.

O'REILLY: Bottom line is you're there two years. Bottom line is stock drops 90 percent.

FRANK: Yes.

O'REILLY: In any private industry, you're out.

FRANK: No.

O'REILLY: In any private concern, you're out on your butt.

FRANK: No.

O'REILLY: But not here in the federal government.

FRANK: No.

O'REILLY: You can come in and make every excuse in the world.

FRANK: I'm not making excuses.

O'REILLY: .blame everybody else in the world and then call me boorish.

FRANK: I'm not going to be bullied by your ranting. You can rant all you want, you're not going to shut me up! The problem was that we passed in 1994, in fact.

O'REILLY: Now we're back to 1994. This is bull.

FRANK: Yes.

O'REILLY: This is why Americans don't trust the government.

FRANK: No, this is why your stupidity gets in the way of rational discussion.

O'REILLY: All right.

FRANK: The fact is it was 1994 that we passed a bill to tell the Fed to stop the subprime lending. We tried to get them to do it. The first time we were in power again in 2007, we passed the bill to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

O'REILLY: Look, Congressman.

FRANK: So during the two years I was there.

O'REILLY: .you tried to put a happy face on this in July.

FRANK: I'm not putting a happy face.

O'REILLY: You tried to - and now you won't take the.

FRANK: No.

O'REILLY: Look, at least Cox is man enough.

FRANK: I said.

O'REILLY: .to say he screwed up.

FRANK: Hey, Bill.

O'REILLY: You're not.

FRANK: This manliness stuff is very unbecoming from you. I don't see any.

O'REILLY: Cox is man enough to say he screwed up. You're not.

(CROSSTALK)

FRANK: You think toughness is yelling and ranting and trying to bully. It's not going to work with me. The fact is in the very quote you played, I said it's not a good investment. I tried to get the regulations adopted.

O'REILLY: You said going forward, it's going to be swell. And people under that bought stock in that, thought it was a good investment.

FRANK: I didn't say swell. I didn't say swell. No, I said in fact in that quote that you played and didn't listen to because you're busy ranting that it's not a good investment. I said that at the time. I did think we were going to improve things going forward. Yes, we had some things that needed improvement.

O'REILLY: All right, you want to - here, let me read you your quote here. OK? OK? "I do think the prospects going forward are very solid."

FRANK: But that's not the part about it not being a good investment.

O'REILLY: Now, people bought stock when you said that.

FRANK: You are distorting it. Bill, you're lying by your words.

O'REILLY: This is what you said.

FRANK: What about the part where.

O'REILLY: Not lying. And I played it and I read it.

FRANK: What about the part where I said it wasn't a good investment?

O'REILLY: You said it's not the best right now, but going forward this is going to be solid.

FRANK: Right..

O'REILLY: People lost millions.

FRANK: .(INAUDIBLE) right now. I didn't say solid, I didn't say swell. You distort consistently. And you think ranting and raving.

O'REILLY: All right.

FRANK: .you don't want to talk about 1994, like no history is relevant. The fact is that you had a problem with an administration - conservative.

(CROSSTALK)

O'REILLY: I know, it's all the conservatives, it's all the Republicans and not you.

FRANK: Oh, come on.

O'REILLY: None on you. That's a joke.

FRANK: You won't have a rational discussion.

O'REILLY: That's a joke.

FRANK: The joke is to think I could have a rational discussion with you.

O'REILLY: No, the joke is.

FRANK: You're ranting.

(CROSSTALK)

O'REILLY: Both parties are at fault, as I stated. But one guy Cox says yes, I screwed up.

FRANK: That's a totally different issue.

O'REILLY: And one guy Frank says it's everybody else's fault.

FRANK: No, I didn't say it was everybody else's fault.

O'REILLY: It's your fault.

FRANK: You are the most -- you don't listen at all, or maybe you are listening or you're too dumb to understand.

O'REILLY: I am too dumb, Congressman.

FRANK: The fact is that in - yes.

O'REILLY: No, you hit it, I'm too dumb. You're the brilliant guy.

FRANK: In 2007.

O'REILLY: You're the brilliant guy who presided over the biggest financial collapse in federal history.

FRANK: Oh, no, no, no.

O'REILLY: So you're the -- I'm the dumb guy. You're the brilliant guy.

(CROSSTALK)

FRANK: And the fact is.

O'REILLY: Congressman, thanks very much. We got to run.

==end quote==

Bravo, Bill. Outstanding!

The reality is that for the last three weeks, Americans have been lied to by folks on the left both in Washington and in the media. Since this crisis hit a head, the citizenry has been shamefully led to believe that this entire matter was precipitated by the Bush administration, and that Democrats were innocent of all wrongdoing.

Those of us in the know have been wondering when someone was going to finally challenge these folks. We can only hope that this is just the beginning, because the American people have a right to know that for many years, any attempt to reform or add tighter regulations to Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac was thwarted by Democrats.

In fact, this is so much so that if the American people actually were told the truth about the real foundation of today's financial industry meltdown we'd likely be looking at a Republican landslide at the polls next month.

Instead, our press have complicity added to the misinformation campaign of the Democrats, and shamefully hid the truth from the public.

Let's hope this is the beginning of light finally being shed on the disgraceful behavior of Democrats going back several administrations.

From this point forward, I would like to see press members specifically ask any Democrat blaming this problem on President Bush to name the piece of legislation signed into law since he was first inaugurated which led to this crisis.

Anything less is journalistic malpractice, and I imagine I speak for most Americans when I say enough is enough.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

Comments:

1) Perfect... by Gat New York

O'Reilly's full throated exchange with the deplorable Barney Frank was perfect.

It made me realize that this is the tenor McCain's campaign should be operating on. How dare you allow Democrats to lie to the american public about who caused this economic problem.

This was NOT a problem of too little regulation - it was a problem of just too much government interference with business. And Barney Frank was front and center for years.

2) Other Quotes?? by GOPG8R

That clip was impossible for me to watch. Barney Frank deserves to be questioned about his comments regarding Freddie and Fannie ... but not like that. Frank came off sounding like the reasonable one. And, to me, the quote that O'Reilly was using wasn't the most effective one to use against Franks. What about all the quotes from Frank and other ranking Democrats from 2004? The quotes where they are going on and on about there not being any problems with Frannie and Freddie? And that they didn't need any more regulations?

Those are the quotes that need to be thrown in Frank's face, IMO.

3) BOR is not my favorite ... by Meandering

when it comes to his practices of yelling and all that, but Barney deserved it. Our economy is in the toliet because the democrats. Once they regained the power in congress our economy got flushed down the crapper and NO ONE is holding their feet to the flames. So while I'm not for hit tactics, I still say GOOD JOB BILL!

4) At least Bill makes an by TruthMonger

At least Bill makes an effort - but he left out tons of much more juicy material - and so this meek point along with the ranting will get virtually no traction
is this the best conservative TV can do? sad...

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

5) Agree with you about the by BuffNBone

Agree with you about the quote not being the best one available. The 2004 comments are powerful, but dated. The tradeoff was the currency of what he went with. Those words happened on the dems' watch--when they had control of the House and could set the agenda.

BOR's too sold on himself. I much prefer the earlier version. He's milking his verbal intercourse with Obama more than it is worth. Those things have a half-life and there isn't enough radient energy to light a wrist-watch. Don't care for Frank at all but he came close to a tie as BOR seemed to lose it. If you've got the goods, let them speak for themselves.

6) GOPG8R, by Indiana Joe

You make some good points, but maybe a little hard on BOR. I'm not a huge fan, but in this case, I'd say he wasn't really prepared for Frank to just weasel like he did. He probably should have been, but that's my take. If so, he could have been prepared with the data you suggest.

All BOR wanted was for Frank to just say, "yeah, I kind of misstated that," or "I can see how that was misunderstood," even. But to flat deny he claimed it was a "good investement going forward" caught Bill by surprise, I think. And O'Reilly wasn't going to let him get away with that. Good for him.

It is a little painful to watch, because Barney seems to keep his cool. But, for myself, I was glad to see someone finally call him on this to his face. We know he's been lying and playing the blame game, and I actually wish BOR had kept hitting him even harder. You see how Barney objected to the "being a man" thing? I was expecting him to accuse O'Reilly of "gay-bashing" or some such BS. I think he almost went there.

Barney is a consummate politician, so he wasn't going to get as vehement as BOR. BOR seemed more like "everyman," not interested in excuses or finger-pointing, just "mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore!"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/03/oreilly-tears-barney-frank-apart-over-fannie-freddie

-- October 3, 2008 2:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

When I said I was glad you were mad, I was referring to your statement:

I for one am mad as hell. I want an investigation and I want some people to go to jail. Having said this, this investigation needs to be an independent council and not congress policing themselves as they are the ones I want investigated. I want to clear out all the congressional offices (both House and Senate) and I think the american public feels the same way.

Sara.

-- October 3, 2008 3:08 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

To summarize the financial news of the past few weeks: "In our lead story, American taxpayers are out $700 billion, and despite all the tall forheads in Washington and Wall Street, it turns out no one is to blame, and no one did anything wrong. In other news......"

-- October 3, 2008 4:04 PM


Sara wrote:

House Passes Rescue Plan Second Time Around
Friday, October 03, 2008

WASHINGTON — In a nail-biter, the House Friday approved the Bush administration's historic $700 billion financial markets rescue package, a measure promoted as a means to prevent a U.S. economic collapse.

Lawmakers voted 263-171 to pass the bill, a comfortable margin that was 58 more votes than the measure garnered in Monday's stunning defeat.

Of the 263 supporters, 172 were Democrats and 91 were Republicans. On Monday, 133 House Republicans joined 95 Democrats in rejecting the measure.

"We have acted boldly to prevent the crisis on Wall Street from becoming a crisis in communities across our country," President Bush said before quickly signing the bill into law.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432282,00.html

-- October 3, 2008 4:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Dems over subprime disaster
October 3, 2008
by Allahpundit

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA

Via Ace. Gut reaction: One of the best ads I’ve seen this year, although part of that feeling admittedly is due to the intensity of my bitterness at the Democrats over this. I want to see them punished for it, this ad punishes them, ergo it starts off already halfway to being a “great” ad. Biases aside, though, try getting and holding a viewer’s attention for 90 seconds on a subject as dry and complicated as mortgage policy. Does this do it? Thanks to the arresting music and graphics, you’d better believe it. More, please. (But leave Bush out of the next one.)

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/03/awesome-new-gop-ad-lowers-the-boom-on-dems-over-subprime-disaster/

-- October 3, 2008 5:25 PM


Sara wrote:

The War won't end in Iraq or Afghanistan..

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The War Won’t End in Afghanistan
Michael J. Totten
09.29.2008

Senator Barack Obama said something at the presidential debate last week that almost perfectly encapsulates the difference between his foreign policy and his opponent’s: “Secretary of Defense Robert Gates himself acknowledges the war on terrorism started in Afghanistan and it needs to end there.” I don’t know if Obama paraphrased Gates correctly, but if so, they’re both wrong.

If Afghanistan were miraculously transformed into the Switzerland of Central Asia, every last one of the Middle East’s rogues gallery of terrorist groups would still exist. The ideology that spawned them would endure. Their grievances, such as they are, would not be salved. The political culture that produced them, and continues to produce more just like them, would hardly be scathed. Al Qaedism is the most radical wing of an extreme movement which was born in the Middle East and exists now in many parts of the world. Afghanistan is not the root or the source.

Naturally the war against them began in Afghanistan. Plans for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States were hatched in Afghanistan. But the temporary location of the plotters of that strike means little in the wide view of a long struggle. Osama bin Laden and his leadership just as easily could have planned the attacks from Saudi Arabia before they were exiled, or from their refuge in Sudan in the mid 1990s. Theoretically they could have even planned the attacks from an off-the-radar “safe house” in a place like France or even Nebraska had they managed to sneak themselves in. The physical location of the planning headquarters wasn’t irrelevant, but in the long run the ideology that motivates them is what must be defeated. Perhaps the point would be more obvious if the attacks were in fact planned in a place like France instead of a failed state like Afghanistan.

Hardly anyone wants to think about the monumental size of this task or how long it will take.

The illusion that the United States just needs to win in Afghanistan and everything will be fine is comforting, to be sure, but it is an illusion. Winning the war in Iraq won’t be enough either, nor will permanently preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons or resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict. The war may end somewhere with American troops on the ground, or, like the Cold War, it might not. No one can possibly foresee what event will actually put a stop to this war in the end. It is distant and unknowable. The world will change before we can even imagine what the final chapter might look like.

Most of the September 11 hijackers were Saudis. All were Arabs. None hailed from Afghanistan. This is not coincidental. Al Qaeda’s politics are a product of the Arab world, specifically of the radical and totalitarian Wahhabi sect of Islam founded in the 18th Century in Saudi Arabia by the fanatical Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab. He thought the medieval interpretations of Islam even on the backward Arabian peninsula were too liberal and lenient. His most extreme followers cannot even peacefully coexist with mainstream Sunni Muslims, let alone Shia Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, secularists, feminists, gays, or anyone else. Their global jihad is a war against the entire human race in all its diversity and plurality.

Wahhabism has spread outward from Saudi Arabia by proselytizers funded by petrodollars who have set up mosques, madrassas, and indoctrination centers nearly everywhere from Indonesia to the United States. In the Balkans, for instance, Wahhabis are actually replacing traditional moderate Ottoman mosques destroyed by the Yugoslav Army and Serbian paramilitary units with their own extremist knockoffs. They’re staking out new ground in the West where they deliberately gin up virulent hatred among immigrants from Muslim countries. They tried to car-bomb their way into power in parts of Iraq, and in the cities of Baqubah, Fallujah, and Ramadi they even succeeded for a while.

In some places the ideology flourishes more than in others. It was effectively transplanted to Afghanistan with the assistance of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency. In thoroughly secular Muslim countries like Azerbaijan and Albania, bin Ladenism remains thinner on the ground than in Western Europe. Its adherents are unevenly distributed, but it began in the Middle East and has since metastasized.

Al Qaeda leaders did not spring up from the ground in Afghanistan, nor are they chained there. They move around. Any country where they are located becomes crucial whether American soldiers are present or not. Like the Cold War, this conflict is not exclusively military, but the theaters of armed conflict have already been widened well beyond Afghanistan. And the war isn’t America-centric. It is not all about us. Fighting between violent Islamists and their enemies broke out in Arab countries like Algeria and Lebanon, and even in countries without a Muslim majority like Russia and the Philippines. Many of these conflicts started before the attacks on September 11, before anyone could even imagine that American troops would fight a hot war in Afghanistan.

And let’s not forget the radical Shias. While Sunni Wahhabis export their fundamentalist creed from the Arabian Peninsula, the Khomeinists in the Islamic Republic of Iran are busy exporting their own revolutionary and totalitarian brand of Shia Islam to countries like Lebanon and Iraq. So far the Iranians and their proxies have been less violent and extreme than Al Qaeda, but Iran remains the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. While the leaders are Shias, that has not – contrary to mistaken conventional wisdom – stopped them from forming tactical alliances with radical Sunnis from Hamas in Gaza to Ansar Al Islam.

Before the U.S. demolished the regime of Saddam Hussein, Ansar Al Islam was based in and around the town of Biara in Northern Iraq. Al Qaeda in Iraq founder Abu Musab al Zarqawi was one of its members. American Special Forces and Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters pushed Ansar into the Northern Iranian city of Mariwan where they remain today and receive support from the government of Iran. They have since changed their name to Al Qaeda in Kurdistan.

On some level even Senator Obama himself understands that Afghanistan is unlikely be the beginning and the end of this war. He correctly argues that more needs to be done to shut down the safe havens bin Laden and company have established in Pakistan. He likely doesn’t believe some of his own rhetoric about Afghanistan even though it’s a standard staple of his campaign. Obama's dovish liberal base seems sometimes desperate to believe that Afghanistan was the beginning and will be the end of a war they have little stomach to wage.

Wishing will not make it so. Afghanistan, indeed all of Central Asia, is on the periphery. The violent ideologies that animate the most dangerous terrorist movements in the world are Arabic and, to a lesser extent, Persian. The Middle East is central. It is not a distraction. It is where the war truly began because it is where most of the combatants, ideological leaders, and supporters were born and raised. While there’s a chance it won’t end there, most of it will be fought there.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/totten/34001

Note Obama saying, "the war on terrorism started in Afghanistan and it needs to end there." and also note his saying (in the first debate as he pounded on the podium) that he will end the war in Iraq (precipitously, using his timetable over conditions on the ground, as Biden reminded on the timetable repeatedly in the second debate.) These statements are playing to a desperate need by the Liberal dovish base to believe that Afghanistan was the beginning of the Global War On Terror and their naive idea that Obama will be able to end the war completely.

But the megapolitical factors listed above prove.. we are in this conflict for the long haul and the terrorists are not based in any one location - Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else. This means these foolish doves are just asking to be lied to because they want a fantasy of peace.. but there is no peace which Obama or anyone else can obtain or give to the world. If Obama were to gain the Whitehouse, he could end a battle by calling for a defeat/forfeiture in Iraq or following peacenik policies in Afghanistan, but he would not be able to bring about world peace, as he seems to promise. Those who believe he CAN, are merely deceived or deceiving themselves.

Sara.

-- October 3, 2008 8:36 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain ad: Lies and Sighs
October 3, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

It didn’t take the McCain campaign long to generate a new ad from last night’s debate. Titled “Lies and Sighs”, the ad mostly hits Joe Biden for his flat-out untruths:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5FseX_3mT4

As for the last part, I’m less concerned about Biden’s exhalations, and even then, in this case, it sounds more like an inhalation. The ad was more effective when it focused on Biden’s fabrications, and it isn’t as though that was a limited resource. According to the list at the McCain Report, the campaign’s official blog, they had 14 to use:

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy whereas John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

Stick to the fabrications. Fortunately, Biden has given Team McCain plenty of ammunition in the days ahead.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/03/mccain-ad-lies-and-sighs/

-- October 3, 2008 8:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Why in the forseeable future Iraq remains very important.

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Analysis: Stable Iraq could influence Mideast
By ROBERT H. REID/AP
Posted on Fri, Oct. 03, 2008

BAGHDAD -- As violence in Iraq recedes, neighboring states are pondering how to deal with an unwieldy country that could re-emerge as a key player along with Saudi Arabia and Iran in one of the world's most strategic regions.

The role of regional power broker may seem far-fetched for Iraq - a devastated land best known for car bombs, death squads and suicide attackers.

Still, countries of the Middle East cannot ignore the potential role of a resurgent Iraq, a nation of 28 million people, bordering Iran to the east, Syria and Jordan to the west and sitting on one of the world's major pools of oil.

For those reasons, the United States cannot afford to lose focus on Iraq, which will remain a strategic and important country even after the last of the 140,000 American soldiers have gone home.

Clearly Iraq is a long way from re-establishing itself as a major force in the region. In a first step, however, representatives of 35 international oil companies are to meet this month with Iraq's oil minister in London to discuss improving Iraqi gas and oil fields. Fellow Arab countries are talking about upgrading their relations with Iraq.

Iraq is likely to play a significant role in America's Middle East policy for decades - even as the Pentagon scales down military operations here and ramps them up in Afghanistan.

However unlikely it may seem today, a relatively stable Iraq would have all the cards necessary to emerge as a major player in the Persian Gulf, where Saudi Arabia and Iran are competing for leadership.

Those three countries account for most of the population and most of the oil in the Gulf, which has about 60 percent of the world's proven reserves.

How the three deal with one another will shape the Middle East for decades.

Iraq's vast oil reserves alone should guarantee the country a major regional role.

Current estimates put Iraq's proven oil reserves at 115 billion barrels. But many experts believe that figure could rise by another 70 billion to 80 billion barrels once better security allows for renewed exploration.

If those estimates prove accurate, Iraq would have the world's second-largest proven oil reserves behind Saudi Arabia and ahead of Iran.

As Iran and Saudi Arabia compete for influence in the region, each has a strong interest in using Iraq as leverage against the other.

Neither Iran nor Saudi Arabia can afford to have Iraq throw itself solidly behind the other. Each wants a stable Iraq - but not one strong enough to threaten its neighbors as when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990.

In competing for influence in Iraq, Iran would seem to have the advantage. Most of Iran's nearly 70 million people are Shiites, the Muslim sect that includes about 60 percent of Iraq's population.

Iran offered asylum to thousands of Iraqi Shiites who fled Saddam's Sunni-dominated regime. Many of them returned home to assume positions of power after the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.

Iran has also cultivated close ties with the Kurds, who along with the Shiites have dominated political life in Iraq since the fall of Saddam.

Despite those advantages, Iran faces major obstacles in building influence in a country with bitter memories of the eight-year Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s and a legacy of centuries of rivalry between Arabs and Persian Iran.

U.S. and Iraqi officials remain convinced Iran is financing and training Shiite extremists, although Tehran denies the allegation. Many Iraqis - both Shiites and Sunnis - view their Iranian neighbor with deep suspicion.

At the same time, Iran sees Washington's ties to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and others in the Shiite religious parties as a potential threat.

Other Arab countries fear that Iraq will fall under Iranian domination once the Americans have gone.

Arab pessimists see a dark vision of a Middle East with Iranian clients ruling Iraq, Iranian-backed Hezbollah as the dominant political force in Lebanon and Tehran's Hamas clients running the Palestinian entity.

Nowhere are those fears stronger than in Saudi Arabia, whose geriatric leadership has faced problems in responding to the political changes in Iraq, its northern neighbor.

The Saudis and other Sunni-dominated Arab governments maintain close ties to the United States. But their natural allies in Iraq - minority Sunnis - were fighting the Americans for most of the U.S. occupation.

Other Arab governments found it difficult to support the Shiite leadership in Baghdad while Iraqi Sunnis and Shiites were slaughtering each other in the streets.

Sectarian fighting has eased, and thousands of Sunni insurgents turned against al-Qaida and joined forces with the Americans.

Still, Arab governments have been slow to develop full diplomatic relations with Iraq, despite intense American pressure. Iraqis face enormous problems in seeking refuge elsewhere in the Arab world.

Many Iraqis resent the Arab attitude and fear that shunning them only enhances the influence of Iran, which embraced the new Iraqi government.

All these uncertainties will probably encourage Washington to pay close attention to Iraq for years.

"All Americans should be and are proud of the achievements in Iraq and the American role in bringing about the change," U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker said recently.

Losing interest in Iraq, he warned, risks paying "a major long-term price."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/711985.html

-- October 3, 2008 9:04 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

If you really want accountability for this financial fiasco..
It will take someone not afraid to take on corruption WHEREVER they find it..
including special interest groups and darlings of the left and MSM.
Someone who would be willing to stop special treatment for gays..
Here, below, no accountability when it is a gay Congressmen.
Who would take on those who belong to such a privileged, pampered and favored group?
Who has the track record for taking on corrupt politicians - McCain or Obama?
Which is more likely to bring true REFORM to this area, regardless of special interests?
As they say below:

"... everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard."

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Lawmaker Accused of Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest
Friday, October 03, 2008
By Bill Sammon

WASHINGTON — Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.

Frank’s partner benefitted, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.

Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.

Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.

"It’s absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?

"If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane," added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. "But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard."

A top GOP House aide agreed.

"C’mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?" the aide told FOX News. "No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank’s political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley’s wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain’s wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation’s housing and banking laws."

Frank’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress.

"I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus," Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. "On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover."

The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses "helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs."

Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month’s government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.

Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.

Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac," Clinton said recently.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html

-- October 4, 2008 2:55 AM


mattuk wrote:

Crescent, Dana start gas supply in Iraq's Kurdistan
Sat Oct 4, 2008 8:02am BST

By Simon Webb

DUBAI, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The UAE's Crescent Petroleum and affiliate Dana Gas DANA.AD have begun supplying gas in Iraq's Kurdistan region after completing the first stage of a $650 million project, the companies said in a statement on Saturday.

Gas was flowing at 75 million cubic feet per day (cfd) from the revamped Khor Mor field and supply will rise to 300 million cfd in the first half of 2009, the companies said.

The first gas will supply a power plant in Arbil, the capital of the semi-autonomous Kurdistan region. Supplies coming on stream later will go to another power plant in Sulaimaniya. The two plants will have total electricity generation capacity of 1,250 megawatts.

Supply was initially planned to begin in mid-2008, but was held up as construction of the power plants took longer than expected.

"We are very proud of this historical milestone as the first companies from the Middle East to invest in Iraq's oil and gas sector," said Ahmed Al-Arbeed, upstream executive director for Dana Gas in the statement.

Dana and Crescent signed the service contract in April 2007 with the Kurdistan regional government (KRG) to redevelop the Khor Mor and Chemchemal fields. The Khor Mor field was shut after the first Gulf War in 1991.

The KRG has angered Baghdad by moving ahead with plans to develop its energy sector while political wrangling has delayed a federal oil and gas law from going before parliament.

The deal with Dana and Crescent is a service contract, rather than a production sharing agreement (PSA). The Kurdistan government's PSAs have attracted criticism from some politicians in Baghdad, including the oil minister. The KRG says its deals are in line with the constitution.

Crescent says it has no doubts over the legality of its deal and that other regions of Iraq have shown interest in contracting the companies for similar projects.

"We are absolutely certain of the moral, legal and economic correctness of our contract with the KRG and the work we are doing," Majid Jafar, Crescent executive director, told Reuters.

"This benefits the Kurdistan Region and all of Iraq... we have already been asked by local officials to replicate similar projects in other regions of Iraq."

The plants will save Iraq over $2 billion annually in fuel costs -- cash the government currently spends on oil products for small power generators.

The project was the largest private-sector investment in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion of 2003, the companies said. Aside from redeveloping Khor Mor, appraising Chemchemal and building gas processing facilities, the companies constructed a 180 kilometre pipeline that required clearance of some minefields.

Crescent and Dana each have a 50 percent stake in the project. Crescent is based in the emirate of Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates.

GAS CITY

The two companies also signed up last year to evaluate the region's gas reserves and to build a large gas-fed industrial complex called Kurdistan Gas City.

Initial investment in the basic infrastructure for the complex would be $3 billion. Dana and Crescent are leading the development and looking to attract partner companies.

Eventually, they hope the complex will attract more than $40 billion in foreign direct investment and will house at least 20 large petrochemical and heavy manufacturing plants with output that will mostly be consumed in Iraq.

Iraq needs billions in investment to rebuild its economy after years of sanctions and war. The Kurdistan region largely escaped the sectarian violence suffered in the rest of Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003 and is already undergoing rapid economic development. (Editing by Lincoln Feast)

-- October 4, 2008 7:25 AM


mattuk wrote:

Not Dinar related...but interesting regarding the recent U.S 700 BILLION DOLLAR bailout plan.

Finland says Paris summit "very bad idea"
Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:09am BST

HELSINKI (Reuters) - Finland strongly criticised a financial summit hosted by France on Saturday, saying all European countries should have a say on how to resolve the crisis rather than just the bigger nations.

"In my opinion it's a very bad idea," Finance Minister Jyrki Katainen told national Finnish broadcaster YLE, noting that the monthly meeting of EU Economics and Finance Ministers will happen on Monday and Tuesday.

"If big countries and representatives of EU institutions like the head of the ECB and maybe someone from the Commission meet today and discuss amongst themselves... it's not a good way to work. We're all in the same boat," Katainen said.

"Finland, Sweden and all EU countries should be in the same position as the decision makers ... Is the message from the meeting going to be: 'We have agreed on this and you have to accept it'? Let's hope not," he said.

European leaders meet on Saturday for a summit French President Nicolas Sarkozy hopes will limit the damage caused by the worst financial crisis since the 1930s.

Sarkozy has invited leaders from fellow European G8 members -- Germany's Angela Merkel, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi and Britain's Gordon Brown.

Policymakers including European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet and Jean-Claude Juncker, chairman and chief spokesman for the finance ministers of the euro currency zone, are also expected to attend.

The meeting follows approval by the U.S. Congress of a $700-billion (396 billion pound) bank bailout plan.

-- October 4, 2008 8:00 AM


mattuk wrote:

US-led forces in Iraq say they killed Qaeda leader
Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:22pm BST

LONDON, Oct 3 (Reuters) - U.S.-led forces said they shot dead a leader of al Qaeda in Iraq on Friday who was the mastermind behind a series of deadly recent bombings in Baghdad.

A spokesman for coalition forces said Mahir Ahmad Mahmud Judu' al-Zubaydi, also known as Abu Assad or Abu Rami, had been al Qaeda in Iraq's "emir" of the Rusafa neighbourhood of the capital.

Troops surrounded a building in the Adhamiya area of Baghdad after intelligence reports that Abu Rami was inside, and called on the occupants to surrender, the spokesman said.

Coalition forces were shot at from the building and returned fire, killing Abu Rami and a female, spokesman Rear Admiral Patrick Driscoll said in a statement.

A cell in Abu Rami's network was believed to be responsible for attacks on Thursday which killed eight people and wounded more than 30, the statement said.

Suicide bombers struck Shi'ite worshippers as they gathered for prayers at two mosques in Baghdad to celebrate the Muslim Eid al-Fitr feast on Thursday, killing a total of 16 people and wounding nearly 60, officials said.

Abu Rami was also suspected of car bombings and mortar attacks in 2006 and 2007, one of which killed more than 200 people, the coalition forces statement said.

He was believed to be a planner of kidnappings and executions and a 2006 video recording showed him shooting a Russian diplomat, it added.

Abu Rami joined al Qaeda in Iraq from the Ansar al-Islam group in 2004, the statement said.

"His removal from the AQI (al Qaeda in Iraq) network will send shockwaves through Baghdad's terrorist bombing networks," Driscoll said.

"Its ability to conduct grisly attacks against Iraqi civilians and Coalition and Iraqi forces has been severely crippled by this precision operation."

Violence overall in Iraq is at four-year lows and al Qaeda militants no longer control large numbers of villages and city districts as they did until 2007. (Writing by Andrew Roche)

-- October 4, 2008 8:03 AM


mattuk wrote:

EU leaders divided about global financial crisis

By EMMA VANDORE and AOIFE WHITE – 56 minutes ago

PARIS (AP) — Leaders of France, Britain, Germany and Italy will seek at a summit in Paris Saturday to reassure investors and markets jittery about a growing financial and economic crisis.

But European governments differ on how far they should intervene, and their differences could drive them apart.

France has mooted — and backed off — a multibillion euro EU-wide government bailout plan, Germany says banks need to find their own way out of the turmoil, and Britain is suggesting a new fund to boost small businesses likely to be hit hard by the downturn.

The talks, hurriedly organized by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, come amid mounting signs that the financial crisis that devastated Wall Street is spilling into the real economy and amplifying a slowdown across Europe.

More worrying is that Europe hasn't pulled together on dealing with the crisis this week. Both Ireland and Greece have acted independently, angering EU neighbors by offering their banks government guarantees to protect all savings.

This goes far beyond the standard EU guarantee for the first euro20,000 ($27,668) in a bank account — and could see worried savers elsewhere in Europe move money where they believe it will be safe. Britain and others complain that the plan may break EU rules on a level playing field for businesses.

The summit comes a day after the U.S. Congress approved a $700 billion government plan to buy up bad debt from banks and help unfreeze lending, which President Bush quickly signed into law.

Speaking Saturday before the summit and after talks with Sarkozy, the head of the International Monetary Fund said the crisis is a "trial by fire" for the euro, Europe's 10-year-old common currency, that requires a quick, coordinated European response. "We have to make sure Europe takes its responsibilities like the United States," said Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

Fears that banks would not be able find credit to cover their debt saw banking shares plunge and forced European governments to step in and save several major banks, including Britain's Bradford & Bingley, Belgian-Dutch Fortis, Belgium's Dexia, and Germany's Hypo Real Estate.

Sarkozy set the stage for Saturday's summit by calling for "an intense effort to coordinate" Europe's response.

But a senior Sarkozy aide sought to dampen expectations, saying the French leader, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi are not "going to save the world."

The talks will try to set out what Europe wants the rest of the world to do to shore up the banking system, ahead of next week's Group of Eight meeting on the economy involving the four EU nations, the United States, Japan, Russia and Canada.

Sarkozy wants Europe to discuss how to strengthen its banking system and free up credit. But it is unclear what France believes it can achieve. The hasty summit preparations were muddied by a French proposal, voiced by Finance Minister Christine Lagarde, to create an emergency EU fund for struggling banks.

After a swift rejection from Germany, Sarkozy distanced France from the idea. The confusion boded ill for the chances of any strong European response to the crisis being agreed to at the summit.

German Economy Minister Michael Glos told Bild am Sonntag newspaper that any emergency bailout would distract from efforts that banks themselves must make to restore confidence.

"Banks don't trust each other anymore. That's the core of the financial market crisis," he said. "In this situation, I don't think it's defensible to demand the state restore the trust that has been gambled away with large-scale debt write-offs using tax money."

The head of French bank Societe Generale, Frederic Oudea, insisted that some action to shore up confidence and liquidity are vital.

"We are in the eye of the storm," he told Le Parisien newspaper. "Intervention from states and central banks is essential to avoid a domino effect."

Britain's Gordon Brown told reporters that he wanted the summit to focus more on the wider economy, seeking support for a 12 billion pound (US$21 billion; euro15.18 billion) fund to help small businesses survive.

Britain, like France, is forecast to slip into recession this year.

-- October 4, 2008 11:13 AM


mattuk wrote:

The above article and the similar situation(s) in the states, makes me wonder what effect its going to have regarding the dinar..any thoughts? Matt

-- October 4, 2008 11:16 AM


Tsalagi wrote:

mattuk.....

IMO our dinar is in good shape because it's backed by a huge amount of black gold and stands a good chance of going futher up in value.

Even our good ole US$ is going up in value when compared to other major currencies. The US$ index chart indicates a good upward surge. The world is having some huge problems with their money right now but compared to the other countries, the US is looking pretty good. The downside is that it's like winning an ugly contest.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d1

-- October 4, 2008 1:06 PM


Sara wrote:

Wow! Great articles, mattuk.
Thanks. :)
I am very glad to hear they got a leader of grisly attacks against the troops, coalition and Iraqi people.

As for the sobering news on the financial crisis, we haven't seen this fully play out yet,
but it does appear that the worst has been avoided.
Here, monied people such as Mr. Buffet stepping up will help calm jangled nerves leftover from the crisis.
I don't think Warren Buffet is into giving BILLIONS into failing ventures.

Though the government has been forced to tinker in the mechanism of the economy...
the free market is really self-correcting as a mechanism.
The government just managed to avoid a catastrophic bottom.
The intervention has been made.. I think the market must adjust now, and will.

Basically, Mr. Buffet sees a good buy while it is low now, and expects a recovery.
And I think he has proven that he has very, very good instincts...
and acts in keeping with them to make money.
Though calling him, "a mid-western vulture fund who is eating off the debris of the financial chaos" -
seems a trifle, errr, unkind.

Sara.

===

Buffett gives GE $3bn vote of confidence
Andrew Clark in New York
The Guardian, Thursday October 2 2008

Warren Buffett, the world's richest man, is pumping $3bn into General Electric as part of a $15bn fundraising by the US industrial conglomerate, which is anxious to calm nerves about the health of its financial services arm.

In a resounding vote of confidence, Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway investment empire is buying preferred stock in GE. The deal is similar to the billionaire's $5bn leg-up to the Wall Street bank Goldman Sachs last week.

"GE is the symbol of American business to the world," said Buffett. "General Electric is the backbone of American industry, They have strong global brands and businesses with which I am quite familiar. They're going to be around in five or 10 or 100 years from now and, if you buy at the right time, you'll probably make some money."

At the same time as issuing shares to Buffett, the company is offering $12bn of common stock to the public. GE's chief executive, Jeffrey Immelt, said the proceeds would help to protect the company's triple-A credit rating and could potentially fund acquisitions.

"First, it enhances our flexibility and allows us to execute on our liquidity plan even faster," said Immelt. "Second, it gives us the opportunity to play offence in this market."

GE is keen to reassure investors over the prospects for its finance division, GE Capital, which generated 45% of group profits last year. The size of the operation has raised questions about GE's exposure to the credit crunch, prompting a slide in the firm's shares in the market's recent sell-off of anything financial.

GE Capital provides credit services to 130m customers including retailers, consumers, mortgage lenders and car dealers. Immelt described its activities last week as "boring stuff" with little connection to the exotic derivatives which have crippled the banking industry.

But concern about the company sparked a 9% sell-off in GE's shares early yesterday. After the company announced its fundraising early in the afternoon, the stock recovered some ground, but closed down 3.9% at $24.50.

The presence of Buffett on GE's share register is likely to provide encouragement for investors. The 78-year-old Nebraskan is among America's best respected stock pickers and his words carry weight among millions of savers. Buffett warned for years of the dangers building elsewhere in the financial industry, describing derivatives as "financial weapons of mass destruction".

"He is the only major financial institution that has ready cash to buy cheap assets," said Tom Sowanick, chief investment officer at fund management firm Clearbrook Financial. "You could actually call Buffett a mid-western vulture fund who is eating off the debris of the financial chaos."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/02/buffett.ge

-- October 4, 2008 1:21 PM


Sara wrote:

OK, I know I posted on this once before, but this commentary is so RIGHT ON.. and it is all about Iraq.. and so completely about the future of Iraq and our Dinar investment.

A must read, including among the five excellent comments this gem (which bodes well for Iraq AND the Dinar investment):

Since when was the potential for democracy in Iraq “discredited?” Iraq has only been liberated from Saddam for 5 years. Their first free elections were held only 3 1/2 years ago, and that was to set up their interim government. It’s only been a year since the insurgency was neutralized enough to put Iraq into a state of stability. Let’s inject a little realism here. In just five years they have moved from from a brutal dictatorship to a stable democracy, certainly not a perfect one, but still far better than most people imagined could exist in the region. That is amazing progress, and certainly proves that the potential for democracy in the middle east is far from “discredited.”

AND (from the main article):

Think about it. Astraddle the Middle East, in a position to play Saudi Arabia and Iran, if deftly enough even to dominate them: A democratic Arab nation that has rejected terrorism. Sounds like a beacon to me. Sounds like a neo-con’s dream. And it’s approaching, at long bloody last, reality.

==end quote==

As we know from previous posts, the government of Iraq is no longer threatened by the terrorists, as Michael Yon wrote:

I will be very clear what I mean when I say we have won the war. A counterinsurgency is won when the government's legitimacy is no longer threatened by the insurgents, the government is able to protect its own people and the people are participating in the government. In Iraq, all three conditions apply.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/07/iraq_dinar_disc.html#136072

And it is no longer a threat itself to the world;

Iraq no longer poses threat to global peace and security, UN gathering hears.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/09/dinar_discussio_5.html#137515

It can be a very bright and free future indeed for Iraq, if they play their cards right.
And a win for freedom loving countries like America, whose efforts to bring this about should not go unnoticed.

Sara.

===

AP Goes Neo-Con

OK, al-P and reasonable people might dispute that.

But try as it might to discuss where we are five years on without giving Bush any props, the Associated Press has to admit that we have some leverage, and a substantial national interest, at stake in that nascent democracy won with the blood of many thousands of Iraqis and Americans, wedged between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

I give you … “Stable Iraq could influence the Middle East.” AP analysis:
QUOTE:

BAGHDAD (AP) — As violence in Iraq recedes, neighboring states are pondering how to deal with an unwieldy country that could re-emerge as a key player along with Saudi Arabia and Iran in one of the world’s most strategic regions.

The role of regional power broker may seem far-fetched for Iraq — a devastated land best known for car bombs, death squads and suicide attackers.

Still, countries of the Middle East cannot ignore the potential role of a resurgent Iraq, a nation of 28 million people, bordering Iran to the east, Syria and Jordan to the west and sitting on one of the world’s major pools of oil.

For those reasons, the United States cannot afford to lose focus on Iraq, which will remain a strategic and important country even after the last of the 140,000 American soldiers have gone home.

==end quote==

Just as it was before they got there. I’d excerpt the whole damned thing, but you know how pissy AP’s been lately about that kind of thing. These excerpts are strictly for purposes of media criticism. I could criticize the AP all day, and have, but I agree with that part above absolutely, and that’s no mean critique. Except maybe the “far-fetched” part.

OK, here’s another place where we part, if only briefly:
QUOTE:

The Middle East has long confounded forecasters, and the rosy predictions from the Bush administration that Iraq would emerge as a beacon of Western-style democracy in the Arab world have been long discredited.

However unlikely it may seem today, a relatively stable Iraq would have all the cards necessary to emerge as a major player in the Persian Gulf, where Saudi Arabia and Iran are competing for leadership.

==end quote==

You can’t begrudge the AP a little boilerplate Bush-bash, even at this late surge date, but I wouldn’t be so quick to discredit. A couple of cards AP neglects to mention:

Iraq is a democracy. Just yesterday, the democratically elected government of Iraq approved regional elections, in a deal that made important concessions to its minority populations. That’s more of the political progress Obama doesn’t think has been happening. It couldn’t have happened without the most important political progress of all. I don’t mean some agreement between pols. I’m talking about the decision of the Iraqi people to reject the terrorists in their midst. To recognize their own interest and try to work past fear and hatred to advance it. Think about it. Astraddle the Middle East, in a position to play Saudi Arabia and Iran, if deftly enough even to dominate them: A democratic Arab nation that has rejected terrorism. Sounds like a beacon to me. Sounds like a neo-con’s dream. And it’s approaching, at long bloody last, reality.

You will want to read the whole thing.

The news agency that more terrorists prefer you’ll recall was rather late to the surge table, if not nearly as fashionably late as Obama. The Associated Press and the scribbler of this particular analysis, Robert H. Reid, were still neck deep in body counts and failure-mongering when al-Qaeda was out of Anbar and on the run in Diyala in mid-2007. AP’s Baghdad bureauistas were asiduously scribbling everything they could to avoid or obscure the terrible truth of the surge’s growing success. But despite its shortcomings, Reid’s latest analysis does a relatively good job of laying out our vital interests in Iraq. And I’ll risk one of those shitty lawyer letters from the free-speech advocates at the AP to give you one more little bit, uncritically:
QUOTE:

All these uncertainties will probably encourage Washington to pay close attention to Iraq for years.

“All Americans should be and are proud of the achievements in Iraq and the American role in bringing about the change,” U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker said recently.

Losing interest in Iraq, he warned, risks paying “a major long-term price.”

==end quote==

Posted by Jules Crittenden on Saturday, October 4, 2008

Comments:

1) RebeccaH Says:

Well, you can only hit a stubborn mule between the eyes with a two-by-four so many times before it finally decides it had better get with the program.

2) tim maguire Says:

Maybe you can’t begrudge the AP a little Bush bashing in an article that basically backs the Bush doctrine, though I would think they maybe got it out of their system in the thousands of other Bush bashing articles they’ve published. At least they had the decency to be utterly incoherent about it–the second paragraph directly and completely contradicts the first.

3) Fatty Bolger Says:

“the rosy predictions from the Bush administration that Iraq would emerge as a beacon of Western-style democracy in the Arab world have been long discredited.”

Bullshit on two counts.

First, I’m quite sure that Bush never said that Iraq would be a beacon of *Western-style” democracy. In fact, I’m not even sure he said “beacon of democracy” at all, though certainly the sentiment was there. If somebody knows the original source for this supposed quote, that can be found all over the place, I would love to see it, because I can’t find it.

But what about those “rosy” predictions of instant democracy? It was all going to be so easy, according to Bush, right? Um, no:

“It will be difficult to help freedom take hold in a country that has known three decades of dictatorship, secret police, internal divisions, and war. It will be difficult to cultivate liberty and peace in the Middle East, after so many generations of strife. Yet, the security of our nation and the hope of millions depend on us, and Americans do not turn away from duties because they are hard. We have met great tests in other times, and we will meet the tests of our time.” - President Bush, February 26, 2003

“The United States, with other countries, will work to advance liberty and peace in that region. Our goal will not be achieved overnight, but it can come over time. The power and appeal of human liberty is felt in every life and every land. And the greatest power of freedom is to overcome hatred and violence, and turn the creative gifts of men and women to the pursuits of peace.” - President Bush, March 17, 2003

But wait! I sense a clash of narratives here! Didn’t we invade Iraq purely because of WMD? That’s what we used to be told. Later, we were told that Bush turned to the democracy in Iraq argument because the WMD’s weren’t found. Yet here he is, talking about democracy and freedom as a major goal, right in the two most important speeches before the war. So strange!

Second, since when was the potential for democracy in Iraq “discredited?” Iraq has only been liberated from Saddam for 5 years. Their first free elections were held only 3 1/2 years ago, and that was to set up their interim government. It’s only been a year since the insurgency was neutralized enough to put Iraq into a state of stability. Let’s inject a little realism here. In just five years they have moved from from a brutal dictatorship to a stable democracy, certainly not a perfect one, but still far better than most people imagined could exist in the region. That is amazing progress, and certainly proves that the potential for democracy in the middle east is far from “discredited.”

4) Bart Says:

Thank God for President George W. Bush. One of our Great Presidents. I am so happy for the Iraqi people.

5) Americaneocon Says:

Trackback: “As a rule, I don’t use sources from the Associated Press (for obvious reasons), but their article on Iraq’s role in stabilizing American power in the Middle East is noteworthy…

http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/10/04/ap-goes-neo-con/

-- October 4, 2008 3:05 PM


mattuk wrote:

I like whats mentioned in the forth paragraph..."Sarkozy said the four had agreed to punish failing bank executives"...has this been mentioned stateside?

Europe fights financial storm as bank deal collapses

3 hours ago

PARIS (AFP) — The leaders of Europe's four main economic powers vowed to protect fragile banks in their fight against the global credit crisis as the biggest rescue in German financial history collapsed.

France, Germany, Britain and Italy put on a united front, promising a more coordinated approach to the credit crunch, although Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel insisted states would mainly act individually.

President Nicolas Sarkozy, who hosted Merkel and prime ministers Gordon Brown of Britain and Silvio Berlusconi of Italy, did not dispute this point, but said a new "doctrine" had been agreed.

Sarkozy said the four had agreed to punish failing bank executives and to call for a rapid meeting of the Group of Eight world industrialised powers to marshall a global response to the financial crisis.

"We have agreed to make a solemn engagement as heads of state and government to support banking and financial institutions faced with the crisis," Sarkozy said at a joint news conference following the three-hour meeting.

"Each government will operate with its own methods and means, but in a coordinated manner. In a way, we have devised a doctrine," he added.

Brown agreed: "Where action has to be taken we will continue to do whatever is necessary to preserve the stability of the financial system."

"The message to families and businesses is that, as our central banks are already doing, liquidity will be assured in order to preserve confidence and stability," he promised.

There was no public disagreement between the leaders, after a week in which officials in Paris and Berlin sparred in anonymous press briefings, but in Merkel emphasised countries' individual reponsibilities.

"Each country must take its responsibilities at a national level," she said.

Brown said after the meeting that leaders had agreed to ask for the early release of 32 billion euros in European funds to help small businesses weather the global finance crisis.

"This crisis that has come from America has affected all businesses, so we agreed to ask the European Investment Bank to frontload 25 billion pounds (44 billion dollars) of finance for small business loans," Brown said.

Despite efforts to present a united front amid differences emerged over just how much public finance rules, enshrined in the Stability and Growth Pact, could be eased.

"The application of the Stability and Growth Pact should reflect the exceptional circumstances that we find ourselves in," Sarkozy said.

The French leader has long sought more leeway on the European Union's public finance rules, with France struggling to keep its deficit to less than three percent of output as required by the pact.

However, Germany, which is counting on wiping out its deficit entirely this year, has consistently resisted French calls for more wiggle room on public finances.

Luxembourg premier Jean-Claude Juncker, the chairman of eurozone finance ministers, insisted that leaders had agreed in Paris that the pact had to be respected "in its entirety" despite the financial crisis.

"We're not going to let the deficits run up, that would be a bad policy," Juncker said.

With tax revenues falling amid sharply slowing economic activity, public finances are coming under growing strain and raising fears that the three-percent deficit level will be increasingly difficult to respect.

Despite cracks in their unity over deficit rules, leaders agreed that the European Commission should show flexibility when it considers state aid decisions in the crisis-struck banking sector.

"In the current circumstances, we stress the need for the commission to continue to act quickly and apply flexibility in state aid decisions, continuing to uphold the principles of the single market," they said.

The scale of the financial storm was brought home when, during the summit, the German bank Hypo Real Estate (HRE) announced that a planned 35-billion-euro (48-billion-dollar) buy-out had collapsed.

A consortium of banks was to have led the biggest rescue in German history and its failure could wreak havoc when financial markets reopen on Monday.

Germany's Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has warned that the financial crisis could have political repercussions, noting how Adolf Hitler rose to power after the 1929 Wall Street crash.

"The consequences of that depression was Adolf Hitler and, indirectly, World War II and Auschwitz," the minister was quoted as saying in Der Spiegel's latest edition to appear Monday.

HRE said in a statement that it was "determining the consequences" after its suitors had "refused to provide liquidity lines".

It was problems like those at HRE, the British banks Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley, Dutch-Belgian giant Fortis and the Franco-Belgian Dexia that forced Sarkozy to call the mini summit in Paris.

The Belgian government was said to be considering totally nationalising the Belgian part of Fortis or selling assets to BNP Paribas of France. The Dutch government has nationalised Fortis' Dutch assets.

French officials had this week floated the idea of a joint 300 billion euro (480 billion dollar) fund to bail out failing European banks, on the model of the 700 billion dollar package approved Friday by US President George W. Bush.

Germany and Britain shot this down, however, and there was no talk of such an idea at the Paris summit.

There was no disagreement, however, over the need for careless bankers to take their share of the blame for the credit crunch.

"In the case of a public support to a bank in distress, each member state present here has decided that those executives who failed will be sanctioned and the shareholders bear the weight of the intervention," Sarkozy said.

Sarkozy also said bonus structures for top executives should be "revisited".

-- October 5, 2008 6:02 AM


mattuk wrote:

An interesting view point from India...

Oil prices fall sharpest in four years
Rakteem Katakey / New Delhi October 05, 2008, 0:29 IST

Fears of an economic slowdown in the US, and a consequent spread of the crisis to Europe and other parts of the world, resulted in oil prices falling over 12 per cent since Monday, the largest weekly fall since early 2004.

Industry watchers and government officials expect prices to dip below $90 per barrel and stay weaker in the week beginning October 6 as a financial crisis grips the US, the world’s largest consumer of oil products.

Investment bank Merrill Lynch has projected that global crude oil prices will fall to $50 per barrel by end-2009 as a result of lower demand for fossil fuels. Prices were last at $50 per barrel three years ago.

Merrill Lynch was bought by Bank of America after the investment bank reported huge losses as a result of the sub-prime credit crisis.

“It’s difficult to say where oil prices will be in the near future. It’s just very volatile. But there seems to be consensus that prices will fall in the near future because weakening economies cannot afford to buy oil at higher prices,” said a Mumbai-based analyst with a global advisory firm.

Oil futures for November delivery on the New York Merchantile Exchange fell 12 per cent this week to $93.88 per barrel on Friday.

The lower oil prices are a boost to the Indian economy, like all other oil importing economies, as their import bill will fall. However, for India, the depreciating value of the rupee against the dollar has negated the positive impact of the lower oil prices.

The fall in oil prices has been accentuated by a data from the US showing employment falling to five year lows and the International Monetary Fund saying on Thursday that the US may fall into recession.

Data released by the US Energy Department also showed that fuel use in the country averaged 19 million barrels a day in the last four weeks, the lowest consumption since October 2001, Bloomberg News reported.

“Global demand is down, but supply is not yet a worry. This despite the Opec asking Saudi Arabia to cut down oil production by 500,000 barrels a day a month ago,” said a senior official in India’s petroleum ministry. He, however, said he would not hazard a forecast “as oil prices are influenced by more than just demand-supply economics”.

Analysts also project oil prices will fall in the long-term as US Presidential hopefuls Democrat Barrack Obama and Republican John McCain are promising measures to bring down prices.

While Obama advocates bringing down prices by higher use of biofuels and opening up US strategic oil reserves to bring down imports, McCain wants the US, which consumes around 23 per cent of the total crude oil produced in the world, to allow drilling offshore oil basins to increase supply.

However, the world’s oil largest companies —ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell and British Petroleum — are re-entering Iraq’s oil fields. The country has also short-listed 41 companies to begin developing proven oil fields. India’s flagship oil company ONGC Videsh, along with China’s Sinopec and Chinese National Petroleum Corporation are also among the short-listed companies.

Obama had said in a speech in March this year that the price of oil is four times what it was before the US invaded Iraq. “You’re paying a price for this war,” The Wall Street Journal had quoted the president hopeful as saying on March 20, 2008.

-- October 5, 2008 6:15 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

From the Hindu Times:

Iraq's Kurdish area witnesses first gas production
BAGHDAD (AP): Two United Arab Emirates-based energy companies announced on Saturday that they have begun producing natural gas in Iraq's self-ruled Kurdish area.

Crescent Petroleum and its partner Dana Gas DANA.AD said initial gas production stood at 75 million cubic feet per day after completing the first phase of the US$650-million project.

Within the first half of 2009, production will rise to 300 million cubic feet per day, the companies said in an e-mailed statement to The Associated Press.

``We are very proud of this historical milestone, as the first companies from the Middle East to invest in Iraq's oil and gas sector,'' Dana Gas upstream executive director, Ahmed al-Arbeed, said in the statement.

``This is the first project of its kind in Iraq, and it will provide important economic and social benefits for the Kurdistan region and all of Iraq,'' added Majid Jafar, executive director of Crescent Petroleum.

Kurdish officials were not available to comment.

In April 2007, Iraq's Kurds and the two companies signed the service deal to develop the Khor More gas field and to appraise the Chemchemal field.

The gas will be used to supply new power plants in Irbil and Sulaimaniyah provinces, two of three provinces that make up the regional government. The two plants are to provide a total of 1,250 megawatts of electricity.

According to Iraqi Oil Ministry figures, the Khor More field was discovered in the 1950s and has estimated gas reserves of 1.4 trillion cubic feet. But it has never been fully developed and was shut down after the first Gulf War in 1991

The Chemchemal gas field, which has never been appraised or developed, has estimated reserves of 2.2 trillion cubic feet.

The statement said initial production will supply the power plant in Irbil, the capital of the semiautonomous Kurdish region. Later production will go to the plant in Sulaimaniyah.

The companies praised the project, saying it would help supply electricity to 4 million Iraqis in the region and save some US$2.5 billion the Kurds pay each year to import diesel for power plants. It would also provide more than 2,000 jobs for local people, it said.

The project also includes the construction of a 180-kilometer (112-mile) pipeline to transport the gas to the two power plants. The pipeline will have spare capacity to accommodate additional production from nearby fields.

Both companies are also working with the Kurdish regional government on plans to set up Kurdistan Gas City, which will include petrochemical, steel and other heavy industry plants.

The Iraqi government has criticized the more than 20 oil and gas contracts the Kurds have signed, saying they are illegal since the parliament has not yet passed a national hydrocarbon law. The law has been held up over disagreements between Kurdish and Arab leaders about who has the final say in managing oil and gas fields.

The Iraqi government has threatened to blacklist companies that sign deals with the Kurds to prevent them from participating in opportunities in other parts of Iraq.

-- October 5, 2008 10:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Interesting mattuk, and timbitts.
Thanks. :)

Mattuk posted an article which says, "Sarkozy said the four had agreed to punish failing bank executives and to call for a rapid meeting of the Group of Eight world industrialised powers to marshall a global response to the financial crisis."

I believe this global response will be successful.

CARL and Board - As for the fact that this crisis has made the American people look away from the issues of true concern - safety and world war - to the financial market and their own pocketbooks - would it be in the best interests of millions of earth's citizens to have an inexperienced peacenik whelp at the helm of the country of America as the Global War On Terror continues? One who sympathizes with the terrorists as mere "folk"? (As in the first debate with "The FOLKS who brought you 9-11.")

From a non-earthly perspective, the true Commander-in-Chief would have to weight the questions of millions of lives being lost if that negotiator were to obtain power. There is a time for everything, but there is no time for dangerous foolishness. Therefore, I ask you, as a military man, Carl.. is it likely the heavenly C-in-C will allow the US to vote with her own pocketbook first when millions will die for it? There is no doubt that Iran will obtain nuclear weapons within the next President's tenure. Is it not wiser (from the eternal perspective) to allow a few thousand more Americans to die (in Iraq, as a result of invasion) that millions more on earth may be saved the anguish of a nuclear armed Iranian force? If ANY Americans truly believe that God is not over the circumstances of life, this will be an instructional lesson.

The American pendulum may be in the direction of selfishly thinking only of their own pocketbooks, but circumstances will not stay that way. America will not be allowed to think only of themselves when so many lives are at stake. It is true that America is totally unwilling to make a move themselves to bring about war since it is not in their best interests. HOWEVER, that does not mean peace will prevail. From a world tactical point of view, Carl and Board - is it rational to allow Iran to go nuclear under an Obama Administration - and what would happen then? If one thing resounded in the VP discussion, it was that Sarah Palin was pleased to report that Israel will be defended by a McCain Administration and totally AMAZED that Biden would agree with her. The reason is.. the Obama ticket has been incredibly anti-Israel for quite some time. This latest flip-flop must be noted by those in Israel whose lives are at stake. This Obamic weathervane which now points in the opposite direction (or does it??) can easily flip back to hostility toward Israel and allowing them to die as a "distration" to the real war (Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, remember?) Will they let their continued existence be in the hands of a 'man of peace' with their enemies?

For those who don't understand the issues, because they are veiled in words they are unfamiliar with, this analysis of the VP debate and Biden's comments on Israel are worthy of note:

==

Biden Now Actively Channeling Rabid Anti-Israel Partisans, Adopting Their Barely-Veiled Anti-Israel Euphemisms

Charming:
QUOTE:

The Vice Presidential nominee vowed that the U.S. will "always stand by Israel, without telling Israelis what they can and cannot do."... Biden dismissed the prominent role played by the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, saying the group "doesn't speak for the entire Jewish community," and it "doesn't speak for the state of Israel, no matter what it insists on any occasion." The Delaware senator also attacked critics who have questioned his support of Israel saying, "I will take a back seat to no one, and again, no one in AIPAC or any other organization, in terms of questioning my support of the State of Israel."

===end quote==

(1) As a matter of widely recognized reality - which I know is important to the reality-based community - of course AIPAC "speaks for the state of Israel" more than any other domestic US lobby. That's the official position of the Israeli government and it's the official position of AIPAC. So much is this the case that when AIPAC tried pushing back against Rabin's peace initiatives, the PM slapped them back into line by threatening to tell DC policymakers that AIPAC no longer reflected the views of the Israeli government. That doesn't mean that it promotes Israel's agenda at the expense of the US - its members believe that a strong US-Israel relationship is in the interests of Americans and Westerners. That's a debatable proposition, but let's be clear that AIPAC is on one side of that debate.

(2) So why would a Washington veteran like Biden - who has undoubtedly been told personally by Israeli officials that AIPAC's official position reflects Israel's official position - unblinkingly trot out such obvious nonsense? Because he's not actually talking about AIPAC. And - for what it's worth - he's not really pretending to. Calls for "reigning in AIPAC" are broader, barely-veiled assaults on a certain sinister and shadowy Lobby. This is a Lobby about which the left knows two things: it's funded by New York money people and it keeps getting the US into wars. Care to take a guess about who Biden was attacking?

This is the exact. same. trick that Obama pulled when he sneered about how you can be pro-Israel without being a Likudnik. It's not that there's anything objectively offensive in their speech, although maybe their eagerness to scapegoat readily-identifiable Jewish groups flirts with unseemliness. It's that the groups of partisans who speak and think with those labels tend to be anti-Semites. And so the natural question is the naive one: hey, where'd Biden learn to talk that way?

(3) This "give Israel more independence" argument is the standard nudge-wink that anti-Israel partisans use to justify zeroing out aid to Israel. It's a personal favorite of Ron Paul. Joe Biden has been known to threaten to zero out aid to Israel. This, I suggest, may not be a coincidence.

(4) One VP candidate talks to AIPAC and declares herself proud to support the US-Israel alliance. The other VP candidate goes out of his way to attack AIPAC - an organization, if nothing else, that's devoted to supporting the US-Israel alliance. All things being equal, doesn't it seem like the first one is objectively more in favor of the US-Israel alliance than the second one? To the extent that she's not, you know, attacking it?

http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11274836.html

-- October 5, 2008 11:29 AM


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http://www.djnewswires.com/eu


Turkey To Return To Old Currency In 2009

ANKARA (AFP)--Turkey will return to its old currency, the Turkish Lira, on Jan. 1, after a major money reform four years ago that saw the introduction of the New Turkish Lira, officials said Friday.

Central Bank governor Durmus Yilmaz predicted that inflationist pressure triggered by the global financial crisis would have only a minimal effect on the new currency.

The outgoing New Turkish Lira will remain in circulation to the end of 2009, alongside the new banknotes.

It was introduced in 2005 after Turkey's chronic inflation fell to single digits as a result of a tight IMF-backed program that helped the economy emerge from a severe crisis in 2001 and stabilized the embattled currency.

Under the reform, the Turkish Lira was turned into the New Turkish Lira, minus six zeroes.

Financial woes over the years had eroded the value of the currency to an extent that the smallest coin at the time was worth 50,000 liras, while the biggest banknote was 20 million lira (EUR10.8).

The return to the Turkish Lira will mark the final stage of a reform from which the currency has emerged "revamped and with a strengthened value and credibility," Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said at a press conference to present the new banknotes and coins.

"The government is determined to keep up the struggle against inflation," he said. "We continue to keep inflation under control despite some internal and external problems."

Tight monetary policies helped Ankara bring inflation down from 29.7% in 2002 to 7.7% in 2005.

But the government missed its inflation targets in the past two years. In 2006, inflation was 9.65%, compared with a 5.0% target, while 2007 saw inflation hit 8.39%, nearly double the 4.0% target.

The rate stood at 11.77% in August, well above the 4.0% target for 2008, pushed up by global financial jitters and rising oil and food prices.

Yilmaz said the year-end inflation was still likely to be single-digit.

"As long as we maintain tight monetary policies... we can easily weather this (global) turbulence, but not being affected at all is impossible," the central bank governor said. "We do not believe that its effect on the currency will be very abrasive."

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

October 03, 2008 06:10 ET (10:10 GMT)


Copyright 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.


-- October 5, 2008 12:32 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Official: Mass. company illegally selling Iraqi dinars



LITTLE ROCK (AP) The state securities commissioner says a Massachusetts company has been selling Iraqi money, over the Internet, without a proper license to Arkansas investors.

Commissioner A. Heath Abshure on Thursday ordered Dartmouth Capital LLC of Boston to explain its currency exchanges that he said the company conducted over www.safedinar.com, although Dartmouth was not licensed to exchange money in Arkansas.

Abshure gave Dartmouth 30 days to explain why he should not ban the company from doing business in the state. The Arkansas Securities Department also set a Nov. 4 hearing on the matter.

In his order, Abshure said that Dartmouth has been selling Iraqi dinars over the Web site and that an unnamed pastor of an El Dorado church has been encouraging Arkansans to make the purchases.

A spokesman for Dartmouth did not immediately return messages left at a company office Thursday evening and with a person who answered the phone number listed on the safedinar Web site.


- Advertisement -
"With the current market volatility and unprecedented turmoil on Wall Street, the Department is concerned that scam artists are using the public's fears to sell fraudulent investments with promises of high returns and no risk," a securities department news release said.
Shannon Underwood, an attorney for the department, warned in the release that foreign currency trading was highly speculative and investors should be wary of any promises of quick profits.

Underwood said the investigation was continuing. The commissioner can levy a maximum penalty against Dartmouth of $1,000 for each day of illegal operation in Arkansas, plus department costs. http://www.thecabin.net/stories/100408/loc_1004080012.shtml


-- October 5, 2008 12:58 PM


Sara wrote:

Obviously:

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Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists
By JIM KUHNHENN
Oct 4 2008

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of his association with a former 1960s radical.

Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, including explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and activities.

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

The effort dovetails with TV ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted former Obama fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002.

Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s.

Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed Obama's relationship with Ayers. In an interview with CBS News earlier in the week, Palin didn't name any newspapers or magazines that had shaped her view of the world.

Taking one question from reporters about competing in battleground states, Palin repeated her wish that the campaign had not pulled out of Michigan, a prominent state in presidential elections where Obama leads by double-digit percentage points in recent polls.

"As I said the other day, I would sure love to get to run to Michigan and make sure that Michigan knows that we haven't given up there," she said. "We care much about Michigan and every other state. I wish there were more hours in the day so that we could travel all over this great country and start speaking to more Americans. So, not worried about it but just desiring more time and, you know, to put more effort into each one of these states."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_el_pr/palin_obama;_ylt=AoY1k7WaepxWnMgn5dwoIjcDW7oF

-- October 5, 2008 1:39 PM


Sara wrote:

Carl and All;

Let's get things straight about what the Obama position is on Israel and the Middle East.
Though this current article is about former adviser Samantha Power, she hinted she would be back (see url in comments) and starkly:

1) Power has said she will be back in an Obama administration once the election is over.

Power would be on the NSA or working in the state department.

Power was the closest advisor to Obama for years and said to be his soulmate as an advisor and on foreign policy.

Power and Obama will always be bashing Israel for human rights abuses.

God help Israel if she is in a conflict with hezbollah, syria or iran during an Obama administration. Obama is an enemy of Israel. - ryandan

Notice the anticipated losses of such an action (comment 16) are very likely to include nuclear destruction and 50 thousand US ground troop casualties.. PLUS.

And folks think their pocketbook is far more important to consider?

CAN Israel ignore what the loss of the Presidency to a hostile Obama (wearing velvet gloves at this point to win the Whitehouse) would mean to their continued existence?

Just in case someone wants to say its all off topic - Would this situation affect the Dinar.. ?? Yes.

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Video: Former Obama adviser on invading Israel
October 5, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Samantha Power left the Barack Obama campaign in March of this year, after a somewhat overblown kerfuffle over her reference to Hillary Clinton as a “monster”. Power advised Obama on foreign policy, having spent her career detailing genocides and international responses to them, including a Pulitzer Prize-winning book on the subject. Power had some interesting ideas about how to resolve one particular instance of what she sees as a genocide in this April 2002 interview at Berkeley with Harry Kreisler:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5XxXm8wPE

This should give us some insight into the foreign-policy objectives of Barack Obama, who had Power as an adviser from 2005 until the “monster” comment in March of this year. He didn’t bounce her from his team over her views on Israel and … well, let’s recall how she described the pro-Israel lobby:

QUOTE: "Putting something on the line might mean alienating a domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import." (end quote)

For those who may not catch the reference, Power means the Joooooos. And why would that alienate the Jewishcabalthatsecretlyrunseverything? For one thing, Power wants to spend billions on bolstering Palestinian military strength, instead of spending it on helping the Israelis to defend themselves. Bear in mind that this interview takes place about seven months after 9/11, when people supposedly still knew how dangerous radical Islamist groups like Hamas and al-Qaeda were. Power wanted to send them money and stop funding Israeli efforts to fight them.

Even more ridiculously, Power’s ultimate aim is to send a massive American or Western force into Israel to stop what Power apparently sees as an Israeli genocide against the Palestinians. She specifically states that the force has to be “massive”, not like a Srebrenica- or Bosnia-sized force. Why would it need to be so large? In order to neutralize the Israeli Defense Force, and protect the forces of Fatah and Hamas.

Had Barack Obama kicked her off of his advisory panel (rumored to number 300) after making remarks like this, it could have assuaged fears about his intentions towards Israel. Instead, Obama invited Power to advise him after making these remarks. She resigned only after calling Hillary a monster and after insinuating that Obama may not retreat from Iraq in 16 months if the ground situation changed — which Obama later adopted as his own position after the primaries.

This is the same Barack Obama who served in a board that gave a $75,000 grant to Rashid Khalidi, Yasser Arafat’s toady in the PLO. This is the same Barack Obama who had Robert Malley as another of his advisers on the region — and who conducted meetings with Hamas. Obama’s church used its bulletins to give voice to Palestinian activists. How much more clear can this get?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/05/video-former-obama-adviser-on-invading-israel/

Comments:

1) Power has said she will be back in an Obama administration once the election is over.

Power would be on the NSA or working in the state department.

Power was the closest advisor to Obama for years and said to be his soulmate as an advisor and on foreign policy.

Power and Obama will always be bashing Israel for human rights abuses.

God help Israel if she is in a conflict with hezbollah, syria or iran during an Obama administration. Obama is an enemy of Israel. - ryandan

2) The left (yes, broad strokes here) is completely wedded to this notion that any problem in the world is a result of the failure of the West - specifically the US and/or Israel - to reach out to the other side, to assuage their fears and concerns.

This is the mindset of Obama when he says that he will meet with the leaders of the various enemies of the US unconditionally. That is because he views the problems as largely emanating from the failure of the US to offer the right incentives, to say the right words, to make the right initiative, to these adversaries that will end the hostilities. Because, at bottom the problem is with us. Or more accurately, the “neocons” or rightwingers or whatever group is dominating our policies.

The Palestinians (the ones that matter) do not want peace with Israel. Until they do, no amount of carrots and incentives will dissuade them otherwise. - SteveMG

3) Samantha Power Unapologetic About Iraq Remarks, Hints At Return

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/26/samantha-power-unapologet_n_93493.html

Here’s a piece from the diva saying she would be back in an Obama administration.

QUOTE: "And, to the delight of many in the crowd, she even hinted that she could be part of that hypothetical cabinet. "Because of the kind of campaign that Senator Obama has run," Power said.." - ryandan

4) General McPeak Obama’s top military advisor blamed the jews in miami and new york for the mess in the middle east.

And yet Obama has morons like ed koch come out and endorse him and his poll numbers are rising in florida. This election is utter madness. - ryandan

5) I feel like I’m watching as God assembles the chess pieces for Armageddon. Is a weak docile America needed to set up the final battle for Jerusalem?

Obama SHOULD scare the crap out of everybody but he doesn’t. We are asleep in the light. -Mojave Mark

6) Is a weak docile America needed to set up the final battle for Jerusalem?

Yes, according to Joel Rosenberg. Read Epicenter.

No one will come to Israel’s aid. - Disturb the Universe

7) Obama’s closest personal friends over the last two decades - when no one was looking - were all anti-Semites and anti-Zionists.

This is who he really is.

Eddie sayeed, rasheed khalidi, wright, and this b**ch in the video.

And Brzezinski and carter and so on.

I’m a Jew.

And a democrat.

But any Jew who votes obama is a fool and a dupe and an ass who endangers Israel and world Jewry. - reliapundit

8) Right now this is just a lot of noise in a very noisy campaign season. Obviously this woman already been thrown under the bus so Obama can claim no association with her. The huge question is: How does Obama’s bubble get pierced in the next four weeks? Every time some horrific association comes to light that person is gone and then that’s the end of the controversy.

A million blogs can point these things out but none of it, NONE of it is getting through to the vast numbers who are supporting Obama or independents that might consider alternatives. - JonPrichard

9) Well, of course this is why he has 300 advisors…Plausible deniability. - tomas

10) It’s not just obama’s advisors (Power and Brzezinski et al) who are anti-israel; it’s his entire network of close friends over the last two decades - they’re all antisemites and antizionists.

Wright, khalidi, sayeed, rezko, etc.

The people obama associated with when no one was looking tells us more than anything else about who he really is and how he would govern. - reliapundit

11) Four weeks. Four weeks of outside factors narrowing this gap, or widening it. Neither camp seems capable of delivering a knockout right now. Providence will deal the final hand. We just have to hope on a good shuffle (unfortunately). - Limerick

12) I find it almost unbelievable that Americans in general can even consider Obama as a reasonable option - but that Jews would support him strikes me as going so far beyond tragedy as to defy understanding.

Paul Murphy on October 5, 2008 at 1:11 PM

I think the video of the Obama Youth (or whatever they are calling those pseudo-brownshirts) would go a long way towards influencing my fellow Floridians of the Jewish persuasion…. just might remind them of something. - CapedConservative

13) Wipe out our closest ally in that part of the world and help our enemies? Those are quite telling as far as the Whun’s world view. Destroy those who like us, defend those who want to kill us. - thekingtut

14) Pay attention Jewish Voters. This is what the Democrats think of you, “A domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import.” Plain english, “We want your votes and your money.”

They care nothing of your ideals or welfare. - The Cat MirCat

15) I feel like I’m watching as God assembles the chess pieces for Armageddon. Is a weak docile America needed to set up the final battle for Jerusalem?

Obama SHOULD scare the crap out of everybody but he doesn’t. We are asleep in the light. - Mojave Mark

I’ve often felt that way in the past month. I really don’t know what to do. There are some really strange forces at work in this election. The problem is, we are all Cassandra’s. None of us will be believed until the end is here. I drink and pray a lot! - JAM

As goes Israel so goes the west. - sven10077

16) Ok, lets look at this.

She wants to put a “Massive” force into Israel. Just how massive are we talking about?

Assume the Obama Administration tells Israel that we are doing with this twit advises. Israel tells Obama and company to go pound sand. What will it take if we face a resisted invasion of Israel and would would the cost be?

To start with,

Half our carrier battlegroups. (6 carriers with their air wings)

The entire USMC with their landing ships.

The 82nd Airborne

2 armored divisions in ships that have been combat loaded.
(Prepared for rapid deploment rather then maximizing capacity)

150,000+ ground troops.

The entire heavy bomber force.

Anticipated loses?

At least 2 carriers and several dozen support ships.

2-400 aircraft.

Infantry casualties rivaling those of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. - (20-50K dead)

Probable use of nuclear weapons by the Israelis on the invasion force.

Certain attacks against US political leaders by the Mossad. Up to and including a possible commando style attack against the White House. Assassinations of political leadership in the house and senate and no doubt this twit would be at the top of the hit list.

It’s pretty obvious that Dimbulb has no idea just how tough the IDF is. It would be the first time the U.S. went up against a well trained and equiped army since Korea and possibly WW2. There is every chance we would lose.

I suspect that if the military would flat out refuse the order to the point of mutiny if these boneheads tried something like this.

The only problem? Obama is a bonehead and surrounds himself with idiots like this. He just might try to do something like this. - evilned

17) The only problem? Obama is a bonehead and surrounds himself with idiots like this. He just might try to do something like this. evilned

Now perhaps you understand why he made the speech calling for a “civillian national security force” he refuses to generate a mission statement for….? - sven10077

18) Obama loves those Jews who are naive enough to give him money.

Until he has the power to turn on them.

And their Gutter Religion.

Farrakhan pal.

Empty suit.

Oy vey? - profitsbeard

19) “Well, isn’t this just special? She backs extreme U.S. military intervention to force Israel to share with regimes that want to wipe them off the face of the map.

I’m guessing that she does NOT support U.S. intervention in Iraq.

Friends don’t let (Jewish) friends vote Obama!! - MochaLite

20) Any Jew dumb enough to vote for Obama deserves to have him as their president.

Obama loves Jews the same way he loves white Americans: they’re just the useful tools he’s using to achieve his ambition to rule over them. - AZCoyote

21) Accusing Israel of “genocide” is a standard calumny of its Arab enemies, they do it all the time on CNN and the BBC, notwithstanding the fact that the Palestinian people keep growing in numbers at a rapid pace. So it’s nonsense, but they like to hear the sound of the word as a way of demonizing Jews in general. This woman is pretty clever in that she doesn’t work the work to death but trots out Rwanda as if the Americans don’t arm the local Arab government, which officially now is Hamas, to the teeth presumably with tanks and fighter planes and heavy artillery, then they will be next Rwanda. The woman is bonkers, in a dangerous way, like Ayers and Wright and everyone surrounding this guy Obama. Harold Lasswell used to talk about the psychopathology of politics, and here it comes, the White House is going to be a Nut House. - ivrydov

22) Israel cannot be at any greater risk than it already is. It is the only major country in the world where the bulk of its own citizenry don’t give it better than a 60% chance of surviving (physically) the next 20 years. Israelis know that another holocaust is on the horizon, as do most other people, even if they’re scared to talk about it. The fact that Bush is pushing “missile defense” pretty much says it all (we all know that a nuke would probably not even come in a missile, and it only takes a couple to do away with the whole state).

But, no matter. All I’m saying is that any more pressure on Israel to kill itself will cause a major change in its internals - good or not.

As to islamic propaganda victories, that’s already been done. I don’t see anything left to lose on that end. The islamic world has been doing whatever it wants, attacking everyone at will, and no one has even intimated that they would be stopped. Bush did a little, but then wimped out. The rest are just in full surrender mode. Very sad stuff. - progressoverpeace

23) What, Barack Obama is not trustworthy with respect to our ally, Israel?

This borders on racism, Ed.

Just kidding, of course, but it is shameful that this appears nowhere in the MSM, which is too busy trying to blunt the impact of Palin’s performance in the debate. - molonlabe28

24) Pretty slick game Obama plays. Associate with radicals/fools on nearly every issue, throw them under the bus at some point, and presto, can’t criticize Obama’s position or judgement on that issue, even if it was yesterday. The only thing that matters is what comes out of his pie hole this moment. Wait, not that moment, this moment. Oops - now it’s this moment….ad nauseum. - aikidoka

25) As an israeli-american i can honestly say that obama scares the crap out of me! - sko17

There is no racial requirement for that one.

He should scare the crap out of anyone who is paying attention (and, presumably, not suicidally leftist). - Count to 10

26) Don’t they realize that Jesus was a Jew? - Crux Australis

-- October 6, 2008 2:59 AM


Sara wrote:

I would like to share a (non-Dinar related) story with you.

It's about an incident which happened in my life.

A Little Taste of the Miraculous..

When I was attending college, I had a job in the evenings working at a health food store. It was fall and when the store closed it was dark. I had parked a fair ways away from the store, several blocks into a residential area - a place where the parking was free as they didn't like us to use the parking on the street in front of the store and there weren't any parking lots nearby.

I was carrying my books and purse and had my keys out. As I walked along the sounds from the street became fainter behind me and to the right of the sidewalk were large oak trees and steep lawns mounting upward. Looking up there were mansion-sized homes at the top of the quite steep inclines and sets of steps. Suddenly, a pile of leaves at the bottom of the hill (near the sidewalk and under a big tree) began to move, and a voice began to shout incoherently. I was very startled and it sent a chill of fear into my system. But presently, as the person didn't appear to be an immediate attack threat, I realized it was someone (likely a drunk) maybe having a bad dream or something... or maybe he was hurt. I walked to my car, which was now not far away, opened it and put in my books and purse, then closed and locked it. I put the keys in my hand (keys pointing out between the knuckles) and put my hand in my pocket. Then I walked back to the tree.

I drew close and he was again muttering loudly but incoherently, oblivious to me. "Are you alright?" I asked. He suddenly seemed to come awake or snap out of it, and his eyes slowly focused on me.. "Whaaa.. who are you?" He asked me. "Are you alright?" I asked again (wondering if he were sick or injured.) I was near to a streetlight and he was still in the shadow, but he emerged from the pile of leaves and asked me slowly, "Are you an angel?" I laughed. "No, I am not an angel, I'm a human being," I said. He came out and slowly sat down on the curb and I gingerly sat at a comfortable distance away. "You see," he said and gestured up the road I had just come down, "People come by here all the time, and they never stop or talk to me. That is why I asked if you were an angel." His words were slurred and I realized (along with the smell which now reached my nose) that he was very, very drunk.

"I see," I replied. "Why were you yelling?" (He looked alright and not in pain or anything, I thought to myself.) "I was having a flashback to when I was in Vietnam," he replied. After a time of silence, he continued. "My brother and I were in Vietnam together. We were in a nest waiting for the enemy to attack. (He impressed upon me how very stressful it was.) We heard a noise and suddenly a young boy appeared. He offered us drugs. The tension was very bad and so we took them, both of us took them. We were very high and then the enemy attacked. The boy was a plant of the Vietcong. They shot into the nest and killed my brother.. my very own brother. I tried to fight back, really I did. But I couldn't shoot straight. Then I became angry. I was angry that my brother was dead, angry at the Vietcong and their trick, angry at the boy who had sold us the drugs. With the enemy still firing at me I simply got up and left. I took a blowtorch with me and I went into the village. I torched everything to death in my path - men, women, children.. it didn't matter. When I have the flashbacks, that is what I see.. I was seeing them melt in front of me. Their skin melting off them. Have you ever seen anyone's skin melt off them... That is why I was screaming." (There were more details, but I think that is bad enough to write.)

"Are you a Christian?" I asked him. He looked a bit startled (likely it wasn't the question or reaction he was expecting). "I and my brother went to church, yes," he said. "No," I replied.. "I mean are you born again, not if you attended a church. Have you ever repented of your sins and asked Jesus to come into your heart and be your Lord and Savior? Can you say He is your Lord?" He paused, "Yes, I have done that," he replied. "OK, then pray with me," I said, and I started..

"Lord, we come to You now and we ask You to go back in time to that time when this incident happened. I ask You to walk back into the past to the time of this incident and heal this man's completely. Heal His mind, Lord. I ask Your forgiveness for these sins of murder, pharmaketa (taking drugs), and all the other sins committed at that time. (I turned to him directly and instructed him, "Tell the Lord you repent of all the sins you committed." He did so, and then I resumed..) Lord, I now cover those sins with Your Blood and I take back all the ground that Satan claims against him and command any evil spirits which were given place or came into him to leave now. Lord, please seal this deliverance by Your blood and fill that place with Your Holy Spirit I pray, in Jesus' Name. Amen."

I looked up into the eyes of a man who was dead sober and his eyes were sharp as knives. He no longer slurred his words when he said, "You ARE an angel!" And then leaped forward and tried to grab my hand. I evaded his grasp and stood, taking two steps backward and disclaiming any supernatural origin. "I am NOT an angel, I am flesh and blood, just like you!" I was startled, but not afraid. But I was suddenly aware of how deserted the place was and the fact he would be able (in his now sober state) to overtake me before I reached my car. I filed the thoughts in the back of my mind as I felt in no danger and I could still feel the Presence of the Lord in that place. It was truly miraculous that he was now sober and healed.. and he knew and felt this incredible supernatural change too.

He sat and we talked for a while longer. Then I went to my car, wrote down my name and number and the name and address of the church I was attending, and handed it to him. Then we parted. The next day he called me, a literal ray of sunshine. "I'm SOBER!" he said. "I haven't been sober in so very many years! I have my life back, I'm healed! I wanted to thank you so much..." I couldn't believe the difference between the man in the gutter and the man now speaking on the phone. He told me he had had a bath, put on clean clothes and had breakfast. He was staying with a friend. This was simply not the same person. I disclaimed any credit and told him to thank the Lord who did the healing and invited him to church. He told me he was going to go look up his family (whom he hadn't spoken to in years.) I turned his name and number over to the brothers at church (who informed me that women are not allowed to counsel males, and they would take it from there), and from then on he was healed of his.. post traumatic stress disorder.

When I think of this incident, I am reminded that the key to the incident is dealing with, not stress, but the giving place to the demonic through sin. It was this "presence" which allowed a handhold into his life to allow them to torment him and take him back into that place they held (for tens of years) for him to re-live as a nightmare. Going through reliving it.. over and over again, in living color... did not help. Sometimes.. the only way we can help is prayer. The trauma alone can also be an opening (they don't call it "hell" for nothing, something wicked comes with the trauma, and it must be displaced to win over it.) When I read of the suicides of vets.. I think of this incident. Of how this man went for YEARS going through a living hell, yet did not take his life. And how Jesus managed to find a way to reach down and heal him, eventually. And, when I think of the vets facing similar flashbacks and "stress disorder" (though maybe not with the same degree of sins involved).. I wish Jesus were allowed to be given to them through prayer.. only His help can heal someone's heart, through prayer.

Sara.

-- October 6, 2008 5:35 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Important historical dates:

1913,1945,1971,1975,1978,1985,1987,1998,2001,2008

Coordinated Global Currency INTEREVENTION.

The USD is the heart of the storm and emerging and frontier markets are the counterparties.

We are at the precipise of the largest financial revolution in the history of modern finance.

ALL REVALUATIONS WILL BE UNILATERAL!!!!

G. W. Bush will make the annoucement at the time that markets are closed just before the open of the Asian bell on sunday afternoon or if all markets close down for emergency meetings. If history repeats itself than this time will be similair to the past with a twist; $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$ are in the HUNDEREDS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

The future of our country is at stake from a complete dollar devaluation and hence us financial meltdown and global power vaccum, we must insure that demand for the dollar continues by the purchase of large sums of oil be done so in USD, from a region in the world that has alot of it like GCC & IRAQ.

So in summary YES! I read the CBI confirming the renumerating article this is what I understood.

This is only my humble opinion from the statements of Dr. Mohammad Saleh,The Central Bank of Iraq advisory.

The author of the article and report was a Minister of Trade for many years, so he has a long time understanding of Iraq’s Economy past and present. He also is the same person that has been debating the case of LOP vs. REVAL for the last several years.

Its findings have been under consideration for a long time and has been preparing by absorbing the excess IQD cash by tight monetary policy (HIGH INTEREST RATES) as well as dollarizing the market to decrease the IQD money supply.

Its findings include strengthening the value of the currency ($3 USD/$1 IQD) to parallel the eminent economic BOOM in the near term and that a new stage is coming (Within the next month or at the start of next year or in other words 5 to 99 days)

The new stage will start with the introduction of new small denominated notes and slowly withdraw large notes in circulation upon deposit into Iraq Banks. Rules applying to the accounting of loans and other finance agreements will be remunerated into dollars during the transition process to keep the money supply in balance and cure hyperinflation.

Dr. Mohammad Saleh,The Central Bank of Iraq advisory

Muhammad Mahdi Al-Salih
DATE OF BIRTH/PLACE OF BIRTH: 1947 or 1949, al-Anbar Governate
NATIONALITY: Iraq
UNSC RESOLUTION 1483 BASIS:
Minister of Trade, 1987 to 2003;
Chief, Presidential Office, mid-1980s
Named on Page 12
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...06:0023:EN:PDF


Enlace al artículo original en árabe:
http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/art...=1&NrSection=2

-- October 6, 2008 7:36 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Welcome to the Single Global Currency Association's website http://www.singleglobalcurrency.org/ here comes the amero.

-- October 6, 2008 7:43 AM


willie wrote:

Good job Sara. As a Vietnam Vet myself I appreciate you saving my brother. It is just as important today to lift these new veterans up as well.

-- October 6, 2008 7:52 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq hopes shrine rebuild can reconcile sects
Mon Oct 6, 2008 4:32am BST

By Tim Cocks

SAMARRA, Iraq (Reuters) - A ring of scaffolding around charred bricks is all that now stands in place of the golden dome that adorned one of Shi'ite Islam's holiest shrines.

Militants bombed the al-Askari mosque in the Iraqi city of Samarra in February 2006, destroying the dome and setting off a wave of sectarian bloodshed that killed tens of thousands of people and nearly tipped the country into all-out civil war.

Now, with violence sharply down and Iraq's coffers swollen with oil revenues, officials hope the mosque can be restored to its former majestic glory in a few years.

That could help heal bitter divisions between majority Shi'ites and minority Sunnis, they say.

"It's so important for Iraq," Samarra Mayor Mahmoud Khalaf, who is closely involved in the project, told Reuters. "But it's also a lot of work. We are working 24/7 to get it finished."

The al-Askari Mosque, also called the Golden Mosque, was built in 944 and is one of Iraq's four holiest Shi'ite shrines. The dome of the sanctuary was completed in 1905 and had been covered by 72,000 golden pieces.

Two of the 12 revered Shi'ite imams are buried in the shrine -- Imam Ali al-Hadi, the 10th Imam, who died in 868 and his son, the 11th Imam Hasan al-Askari, who died in 874.

Getting the shrine back to how it was is a huge task -- officials say Iraq expects to spend around $60 million for the project in this mainly Sunni Arab northern city.

A big part of the challenge is that there are no original drawings to work from, said an architect on the site, who declined to be identified for security reasons.

"We're working from old photographs, but there's a lot of guesswork. We're effectively building the design from scratch," the architect said. "But we have to get it right: for the shrine and for the imam -- and for Iraq."

No-one claimed responsibility for the bombing of the mosque, although the government blamed the Sunni Islamist militant group al Qaeda, which regards Shi'ites as heretics.

Al Qaeda had long been accused of trying to spark a sectarian war in Iraq. This time it worked.

Shi'ite militiamen took vengeance on Sunnis within days of the bombing; Sunnis retaliated. In Baghdad, residents were forced out of neighborhoods if they were of the wrong sect.

In June 2007, suspected al Qaeda militants also blew up the mosque's two minarets, which had survived the 2006 bombing.

PAIN OF THE BOMBING

UNESCO, the U.N. agency for education, science and culture, is helping restore the shrine. Disagreements between Shi'ite and Sunni officials over how to carry out the work had previously held reconstruction back.

But in midday heat during the holy month of Ramadan a week ago, a dozen workers mixed concrete and laid bricks on the roof of the mosque where the dome once stood. Most of Samarra was deserted as people fasted and stayed indoors.

"I'm so happy to work here. It's a holy place and I want to do a service to Imam al-Askari," said Hisham Qassim, 26, an electrician, adding he didn't care about being paid.

"I came here before as a pilgrim and it was like paradise. I felt so much pain when it was bombed."

Some of Samarra's Sunni residents feel the Shi'ite-led government held them responsible for the mosque's destruction and hope a restored shrine will heal the mistrust.

"We always felt the government blamed the Sunnis for the bombing, but it wasn't us: it was al Qaeda," said Wasmi Hamed, who leads a Sunni neighborhood patrol that has helped drive al Qaeda militants out of the city.

"I was devastated when it happened. I wanted to find whoever did it and cut his head off. Now we want it to be repaired."

Sunnis, while they don't attach the same religious importance to the shrine, are keen to see a centerpiece of their ancient city -- once a tourist attraction for thousands of Shi'ite pilgrims -- restored.

"We used to get so many visitors from all over Iraq to see the shrine. Samarra was a beautiful, rich city. It can be again," said Sheikh Khalid Hassan, a Sunni tribal leader.

-- October 6, 2008 8:04 AM


mattuk wrote:

Terms Take Shape For Iraqi Bid Rounds

Monday, October 6, 2008

Iraq Oil Forum
Take Shape For Iraqi Bid Rounds

The six oil fields to be awarded in Iraq's first licensing round will put more than 43 billion barrels of oil reserves into the hands of international oil companies (IOC), whose challenge will then be to arrest declining output and ultimately deliver an increase in production to an agreed plateau. A second bidding round envisaged by the Iraqi oil ministry would put another 51 billion bbl of reserves in a dozen more fields out for tender -- so, if everything goes to plan, some 80% of Iraq's total 115 billion bbl of proven oil reserves will feature in the two rounds. With so much at stake, the competition will be fierce, but the controversy within Iraq could be even fiercer. The first round will also include the Akkas and Mansouria gas fields (PIW Jul.28,p1). The 20-year model contract for the rounds doesn't allow for production sharing -- a taboo issue in nationalistic post-Saddam Iraq -- but will allow IOCs to book some reserves. The final list of second round fields is still under discussion, but an initial list includes giants like Majnoon, Nahr bin Umar, West Qurna Phase 2, Nasiriyah and Halfaya; smaller fields such as Gharraf, West Kifl, Qayara and Nur; and the 8 billion bbl East Baghdad heavy oil field, which is considered geologically challenging and in need of further appraisal (PIW Sep.29,p8). The ministry is also considering three small oil fields -- Qamar, Gullabat and Naudoman -- as well as the Khashm al-Ahmar gas field. All four are in northern Diyala province and could provoke a row with the northern Kurdish region, which regards them as border fields that should come under its authority.

Tender protocols for the first round currently being finalized indicate that bidders will be assessed on commercial rather than technical criteria, sources close to the process tell PIW. Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani also said last week that winning bidders will be those "charging Iraq the lowest fees." Companies will also be required to pay a signature bonus, calculated according to a sliding scale based on the field's potential. The IOCs' remuneration will be linked to an internal rate of return, with 18% considered "acceptable" to Baghdad, ministry sources say. Costs will be recouped from output and IOCs will also be expected to pay tax.

According to the current thinking in Iraq's oil ministry, the service contract applicable for the first bid round will be limited to a maximum of 20 years, with the possibility for the IOCs to receive remuneration in kind. Contracts will be split into a rehabilitation phase, focused on arresting output declines in the major producing fields, and a development phase, in which production is raised to a defined target and sustained there for a certain number of years. One tricky issue will be how to calculate a base production level for declining fields, above which output would be considered as incremental for the purposes of calculating IOCs' remuneration. Iraqi sources say a decline profile is likely to be used, reflecting expected production were no new investments to be made. Any output above that profile would be counted as incremental production.

Development of all fields will be carried out by a joint venture between the IOCs and either state North Oil Co. or state South Oil Co., with the state company holding a 51% majority stake. Each field will have a joint-venture operating company and a joint management committee (JMC), which will act as a buffer between the state company and the joint venture operating company, with equal number of members from the IOC and the state entity and decisions taken unanimously. The board of the joint operating company and the JMC will be tasked with approving field development plans.

-- October 6, 2008 8:51 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,
thanks for your story. it's a blessing.

-- October 6, 2008 12:35 PM


Sara wrote:

You are welcome, timbitts and willie.
This is the reality of the situation.. some stats.

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Suicide hot line got calls from 22,000 veterans

Jul 28, 2008
By KATHARINE EUPHRAT
WASHINGTON (AP) - More than 22,000 veterans have sought help from a special suicide hot line in its first year, and 1,221 suicides have been averted, the government says.

According to a recent RAND Corp. study, roughly one in five soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan displays symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, putting them at a higher risk for suicide. Researchers at Portland State University found that male veterans are twice as likely to commit suicide than men who are not veterans.

This month, a former Army medic, Joseph Dwyer, who was shown in a Military Times photograph running through a battle zone carrying an Iraqi boy, died of an accidental overdose after struggling with post-traumatic stress disorder for almost five years.

Janet Kemp, national suicide prevention coordinator for the Veterans Affairs Department, said the hot line is in place to help prevent deaths such as Dwyer's. "We just want them to know there's other options and people do care about them, and we can help them make a difference in their lives," she said in an interview.

The hot line receives up to 250 calls per day - double the average number calling when it began. Kemp said callers are divided evenly between veterans from the Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam wars. The VA estimates that every year 6,500 veterans take their own lives. The mental health director for the VA, Ira Katz, said in an e-mail last December that of the 18 veterans who commit suicide each day, four to five of them are under VA care, and 12,000 veterans under VA care are attempting suicide each year.

This month, the hot line began an advertising campaign in Washington area subway stations and buses featuring the slogan, "It takes the courage and strength of a warrior to ask for help."

The veterans hot line, which is linked to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, received 55,000 callers in its first year, including both veterans and people who are concerned about them, according to figures being released Monday. One-third of the 40 specially trained counselors are veterans themselves.

"We try to get them (callers) to talk about their situation and what they remember and see if they can identify exactly what their issues are. I think there's a comfort in knowing that they can get some help from people who do understand what combat stress is like," Kemp said.

http://story.news.ask.com/article/20080728/D926LBCO0.html

Identifying the issues.. I think my friend in that last story I told you managed to do that.
One lady I read about said she called home in tears and said, "Mom, I killed a boy today. I can never go back."
She was devastated by what had happened on the battlefield, even if it was an accident.
But as for the statement that she can never go back... back to normal, back to everyday.. back Home.
No.
They can go back. They all most definitely CAN go back.

The reason I shared that story with you is that Jesus can go back.
He is over the space-time continuum and not locked into it like we are.
He can go into the past, forgive, heal and deliver someone from a terrible memory and the pain it inflicts.
Jesus heals memories. He heals lives.
I've seen it. I've been part of it.
It isn't just listening to someone.. it is alleviating the pain that needs to happen.
Jesus can do that. ONLY He can.
But I just wanted to say what I know.. that Jesus saves.. even from this living hell.
I wish more knew.. I wish more would help.

Sara.

-- October 6, 2008 1:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Questions about contract between Shell, South Gas Company

Basra - Voices of Iraq
Sunday , 05 /10 /2008 Time 5:57:19




BASRA / Aswat al-Iraq: The contract signed between the South Gas Company and Shell for the processing and marketing of natural gas produced in the governorate of Basra in southern Iraq has raised many questions and different view points.
There are some analysts who believe that the new contract considered as a plan to give up Iraq’s oil and gas wealth and for foreign companies, while others say it an important step to develop the oil sector which will positively affect the national income and per capita real income.
Aswat al-Iraq brought up these questions and viewpoints to the oil expert Jabar al-Halafi, who answered a question about the reason behind the continuity of signing oil and gas contracts despite the absence of any law that regulates this issue and also the reasons behind the race among the biggest companies in the world, whose operations in Iraq have been nationalized during the period between 1972-1975, to come back to the country.
“Iraq has a huge oil reserve as it ranks the third in the world with 115 billion oil barrels, in addition to the higher demand for oil and gas and the decrease in the production from countries out of OPEC,” al-Halafi said.
“Iraq is an attractive place for big companies which seek to invest oil and gas in the country. The oil ministry has negotiated with more than 30 companies before signing this contract, according to the oil minister,” he added.
He pointed out that Iraq produces less than its production capacity compared to other producing countries; Iran produces 4 million barrels per day, while Iraq produces 2.5 million barrels.
Last September 22, the Iraqi ministry of oil and a wholly owned affiliate of Royal Dutch Shell signed a heads of agreement to establish a joint venture between the South Gas Company and Shell for the processing and marketing of natural gas produced in the governorate of Basra in southern Iraq.
Some 700 million standard cubic feet per day of natural gas, which is produced by upstream suppliers in association with oil, is currently being flared in southern Iraq.
By capturing and processing this natural gas, the joint venture (JV) is expected to create an important and reliable supply of domestic energy, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and create significant value for Iraq.
The JV will purchase associated natural gas from upstream operations; own and operate existing gas gathering, treating and processing facilities; and invest in repairing non-functioning assets and develop new facilities. The South Gas Company will be the 51% majority shareholder in the JV, with Shell holding 49%.
The JV will be focused initially on creating reliable sources of domestic energy, including liquefied petroleum gas, natural gas liquids, natural gas supply for power generators, and deliveries to local distribution networks. In the future, the JV could develop a liquefied natural gas facility to export natural gas not needed for local domestic use.
Linda Cook, executive director of Royal Dutch Shell, said: "Shell is an industry leader in the global natural gas sector. Iraq has one of the world's largest natural gas resource bases and I am delighted that the Iraqi government including the ministry of oil has supported Shell as the partner for joint venture with the South Gas Company."
Shell is a global group of energy and petrochemicals companies. With 104,000 employees in more than 110 countries, it plays a key role in helping to meet the world’s growing demand for energy in economically, environmentally and socially responsible ways.
“The government could sign the contract with any suitable company to develop the oil sector in the absence of oil and gas law, in addition to the huge Iraqi reserve of gas which reaches 4 trillion cubic meters as well as the increasing demand for gas, so we know that companies look forward to invest in the country to benefit from the absence of that law,” al-Halafi noted.
Aswat al-Iraq also asked about the reason behind signing the contract through direct negotiations not through a tender? And why did the government choose Shell?
He said that Shell is a leading company and one of the biggest companies in the world and has huge operations in the North Sea, Norway, Britain, Mexico, Australia, Russia, Nigeria and the gulf countries.
“Selecting the company was the right choice as it has a great experience in gas techniques,” noting that the contract between Shell and the South Gas Company is to export the gas not to use it for other purposes.
Basra, 590 km (340 miles) south of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, has an estimated metropolitan population of 2,300,000 in 2008.
Basra, a Shiite province with 20% of the population are Sunnis, is the cradle of the first civilization of Sumer. It has the seven main Iraqi ports. The first built in Islam 14 A.H. (After Hegira), the city played an important role in early Islamic history.
The area surrounding Basra has substantial petroleum resources and many oil wells. The city's oil refinery has a production capacity of about 140,000 barrels per day (bpd).
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:19 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Egyptian foreign minister makes surprise visit to Iraq

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit on Sunday arrived in Iraq on an unannounced visit, the first by a high-level Egyptian delegation since the 2003 US invasion.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:21 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Attiya: Parliament has not received from Presidential Council ratified Provincial Councils Election Law 06/10/2008 20:24:00

Baghdad (NINA) – Deputy Speaker of Parliament, Khalid Al-Attiya, said, “Parliament has not received yet the Presidential Council's of the Provincial Councils Election Law.” Speaking at a press conference on Monday, October 6.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:22 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Al-Hayis: Negroponte, Crocker discuss applying Sahwa experience in volatile areas 06/10/2008 16:32:00

Ramadi, Anbar (NINA) - The US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and US Ambassador Ryan Crocker discussed during their visit to Anbar province with leaders of Sahwa – anti-Qaeda local councils- and Anbar governor means of sustaining security.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:23 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Constitution doesn''t allow hostile forces stationed in Iraq - Talabani

Politics 10/6/2008 9:16:00 PM



IRBIL, Oct 6 (KUNA) -- President Jalal Talabani said Monday the constitution of Iraq did not permit forces hostile against neighboring countries to be deployed on Iraqi territories.
"The constitution of Iraq does not allow presence of forces which are hostile to neighboring countries on Iraqi territories," Talabani told a joint news conference with president of Iraq's Kurdistan province Masoud Barzani.
Talabani, meanwhile, condemned the cross-border sabotage actions which took place at the Iraqi borders.
On the US-Iraq long-term framework agreement, Talabani said all of Iraq would benefit from this deal including the province of kurdistan.
The Iraqi president, talking about oil, said the oil revenues should be distributed by the federal government to the provinces.
Baghdad and Kurdistan are at odds over the draft oil and gas bill, disputed areas and the province's share of the federal budget. (end) sbr.bs KUNA 062116 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq, US agree on troops'' withdrawal timetable before end of 2008

Politics 10/6/2008 11:56:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 6 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi said his country set the end of 2008 as the date for US troop withdrawal from Iraq.
Abdul Mahdi clarified in a statement that the Iraqi leaders agreed with a visiting US delegation for exerting effort to put and end to the US troop presence in the country before the end of 2008, as part of the security agreement.
Iraqi Presidential Council meeting, held at residence of President Jalal Talabani in Al-Sulaimaniya town last Saturday, was attended by US Secretary of State Assistant John Negroponte -- during which topics of a draft agreement with the US on the troops pull out were examined.
The American side during the meeting took the Iraqi demands into consideration, he said.
Saturday's meeting was attended by the deputy premier, Barham Ahmad Salih, and US ambassador to Iraq, Rayan Croker, as well as the officer in charge of Kirkuk and other disputed areas dossiers.
Mandate of the US troops' presence in Iraq will expire on paper by the end of this year. (end) ahh.sab KUNA 061156 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:28 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Politics

Iraqi minorities are not for sale
By Fatih Abdulsalam

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05 October 2008 (Azzaman)
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Iraqi legislators have revoked a paragraph in the constitution that gave a set of seats for Iraqi minorities in provincial councils.

The reason they cited was that there was no “authentic count” on the number of these minorities in the country.

But this is a baseless excuse and pretext to violate the rights of Iraqi Christians, Shebeks, Sabeans and Yazidis for whom land of today’s Iraq has been a habitat from time immemorial.

There must have been other reasons which prompted the parliament to take a decision that has alienated an important and crucial component of the Iraqi society.

Iraqi minorities thought they would be treated much better than under former leader Saddam Hussein whose regime the U.S. toppled in 2003.

But they now find themselves in far worse conditions. At least Saddam Hussein respected their religious rights and their way of worship. His regime is credited with the building of scores of churches and places of worship for all Iraqi minorities.

Today, these minorities have been worst hit by U.S. occupation and the surge in violence it caused.

To say the government lacks credible counts of Iraqi minorities is a big lie. Such counts could have easily been obtained from their religious leaders.

Moreover, conducting such a count is not that difficult given the fact that the remaining numbers of these minorities now predominantly live in northern Iraq.

For the U.S. and its puppet government everything in Iraq now either falls under the category of minority or majority.

And who is a minority or majority depends on which sect, religion or ethnic group you belong to.

If your are a Shiite you see Shiite majority across the country. If you are a Kurd you see Kurdish majority even in traditional Arab heartland and so on and so forth.

There are no credible counts in Iraq for almost everything. No one knows for sure who the majority is and who the minority is.

This applies to Arabs and Kurds. It applies to Shiites and Sunnis.

But only the weakest and powerless in the society had to pay for the lack of authentic counts.

Iraqi minorities, who thought they would be better off under a U.S.-protected government, suddenly find themselves without protection.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:46 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi stock exchange small but surging

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06 October 2008 (USA Today)
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Looking for a place to put your money amid the turmoil on Wall Street?
Consider, um, Iraq.

Iraq's fledgling stock exchange has increased 25% this year as improved security fans hope for an economic revival here.

Trading volume is small, often less than $1 million a day compared with more than $100 billion a day in the United States. Few Westerners have dared to invest, but the optimism among locals is palpable.

Investors "see the end of the tunnel," says broker Ali Hassan Ali. "They see Iraq becoming good."

Among the 94 companies listed on the Iraqi Stock Exchange are banks, insurance firms, manufacturers and a movie production firm. Hotel stocks led the latest rally on the belief they will be among the first Iraqi companies to attract foreign investment.

The market bustles with traders, who cradle cellphones on their ears and scribble contracts on white boards. There are plans to automate trading, but for now the manual process is ideal — it's not vulnerable to Baghdad's frequent power outages.

Although the ancient Babylonians were the first to create markets for stocks and bonds, trading is still a novelty in modern Iraq. The current exchange was only opened in 2004, and for a while it was housed in an abandoned hotel restaurant. Even now, the market is almost as popular among idle retirees as serious investors.

Many in the crowd toy with worry beads and watch the action on the floor while dabbling in just a little trade.

"My wife asked me not to go anymore," says Abdul Sattar Jubari, 61, a retired schoolteacher. He ignored her. "It's become a habit, like smoking."

The market is dominated by a handful of wealthy Iraqis, many of whom live outside the country and call in their orders by phone to brokers, says Taha Abdul Salam, the exchange's CEO. Foreign investors account for less than 20% of activity.

U.S. officials hope the market will expand. June Reed, a U.S. economics adviser, says a healthy exchange could serve as one of the mechanisms used ultimately to privatize state-owned companies and help attract foreign investors.

The Iraqi government has taken steps it hopes will create a more vibrant market. It has established an exchange commission that has already fined companies for non-disclosure of financial data and other violations. Iraq's parliament is currently considering a law to regulate the securities industry.

In the meantime, Iraqis are discovering the lesson learned by small investors the world over: It can be difficult to beat the market. Jubari says the few stock purchases he made — a bank and a hotel company — didn't turn out well.

"I'm waiting," he says. "Perhaps the price will go back up."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:47 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

OPEC members worried by oil price fall: Iraq
Mon Oct 6, 2008 10:51am EDT

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - OPEC members are worried about the price of oil falling to below $90 a barrel, Iraq's oil minister told Reuters in an interview on Monday.

Hussain al-Shahristani said that the drop in oil prices to an eight-month low was due to the global economic crisis and not a change in supply. Iraq believes the fair price of oil is about $100, he added.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 2:50 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bad day on Wall Street; the Dow under 10,000. Some are saying trading may be halted tomorrow to advert a further slide.

It is imperative we continue to hold those Dinars. Iraq is making progress and Ibeleive we are coming to the end of this ride. Yesterday, I read where the Turkish government will exchange their New Turkish Lira for the old currency. The lop is over for them and the restoration of zero's on their currency may bode well for Iraq.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 6, 2008 5:43 PM


Sara wrote:

Amidst the pessimism.. some notes worth highlighting.

From Fox News mainpage:

URGENT: Dow pulls back from 800-point loss to end day down 369...
Monday, October 06, 2008

Wall Street posted a dramatic comeback Monday afternoon to avoid record losses, but global credit fears still pushed the Dow below the pivotal 10,000 level for the first time since October 2004.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average slid 328.30 points, or 3.18%, to 9990.47. The broader S&P 500 Index lost 38.24 points, or 3.50%, to 1060.76 while the Nasdaq Composite fell 84.43 points, or 4.34%. to 1862.96. The consumer-friendly FOX 50 dropped 25.65 points, or 3.12%, to 797.02.

While Monday's losses were ugly, the markets were able to bounce back from the steepest intraday point loss in the Dow's history. Even at its worst level, the selloff on a percentage basis was well shy of the 22% loss on Black Monday in October 1987.

On top of the losses in the equities markets, crude oil prices were slammed by recession fears, tumbling below $90 a barrel for the first time in eight months.

Global markets tanked on Monday after European governments were forced to come to the rescue of financial institutions for the second weekend in a row.

London’s FTSE fell 7.9% for its third-worst one-day drop, Germany’s Dax ended down 7.1% and France's CAC 40 suffered its worst plunge ever. Russia halted trading three times before its markets closed down nearly 20% each.

“There seems to be this snowball effect. We’re down because of Europe and they are down because of us," Marc Pado, U.S. market strategist at Cantor Fitzgerald.

The European turmoil centered around a pair of financial giants: German’s Hypo Real Estate and financial conglomerate Fortis.

Germany stepped in and offered an emergency 15 billion euro loan to Hypo Real Estate after a private solution collapsed late last week. The Dutch government seized Fortis’s operations in the Netherlands while BNP Paribas acquired the bank operations in Belgium and Luxembourg.

Responding to the financial turmoil, the Federal Reserve unveiled plans to pay interest on commercial banks’ depository reserves. The move allows the central bank to further boost liquidity without cutting key interest rates. The Fed also expanded its loan program to banks on Monday.

Economic worries were reinforced after the National Association for Business Economics said Monday that 69% of economists surveyed believe the U.S. is in or near a recession. "The general view is .... that this recession will be longer than the last two -- lasting roughly one year, but relatively mild," the NABE survey said.

Despite the overwhelming pessimism on Wall Street, some were hopeful stocks will soon find a bottom.

“I think there is a big rally in here," said Weisberg. "I think it’s way overdone on the downside… I don’t know where they bounce but there’s a bounce in there somewhere.”

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/european-turmoil-hits-stock-futures/

-- October 6, 2008 5:44 PM


Sara wrote:

Interesting and noteworthy..

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Israelis dispute pro-Obama video
October 6, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

A pro-Barack Obama video being distributed by the Jewish Council for Education and Research purports to show several high-ranking Israelis as supporting Obama’s policies for Israel. Now at least some of the people featured in the video accuse the JCER of taking their remarks out of context. One of them, retired General Uzi Dayan, says he was deliberately misled as to the nature of the project:
QUOTE:

“It’s not only misleading, it was an interview about what the next president was going to have to deal with,” former deputy chief of staff Maj.-Gen. (res.) Uzi Dayan told The Jerusalem Post. “And to know that they used this interview and took five second, and put me in a list of people praising Barack Obama…

“It wasn’t about the campaign, it was about the political and security issues of the Middle East that the next president should be involved in,” he continued. “Nothing was said about Obama or [Republican presidential candidate John] McCain.”

“I don’t want other people to interfere in my elections, and I must not interfere with the elections in the United States,” he said, adding that to do so would be neither “ethical nor smart.” …

Former Mossad chief Ephraim Halevy, who appeared in the video praising the Democratic candidate, also said that he was misled.

“I was interviewed for a documentary dealing with what issues the new American president must deal with regarding the Middle East,” Halevy told the Post. “I was asked about the candidates, and was complimentary to both.”

===end quote==

The Jerusalem Post has the video on its page at the link. It’s obviously designed to get Jewish voters in America to be comfortable with the notion of a President Obama in terms of his policy on Israel. The statements in the video attack George Bush as an unwitting opponent of Israel, even though one of the people saying this also acknowledges that the Bush administration has been the best friend Israel has had in Israeli-American history.

The implication is that John McCain would be four more years of the same Bush policies that have not been sufficient to provide a breakthrough with the Palestinians. However, the truth is that there will not be peace between those two sides until both sides want peace rather than ultimate victory, and America can’t decide that for either. We can do a full-court diplomatic press for two years, as we have done in this administration, and Hamas and Fatah will still want to take back all of Israel, and Israelis will still not want to let them do it. America makes a handy whipping post for those who want to ignore the basic truth of that statement, but we can’t do much to bring peace to people who fundamentally reject it.

Under those circumstances, do Israelis prefer an extension of the friendship of the last eight years under a seasoned foreign-policy expert like John McCain, or a neophyte whose advisers in the area suggest transferring American military aid from Israel to Hamas and Fatah and occupying Israel with a “massive” force, as Samantha Power did? A novice with another apprentice, Robert Malley, who met with Hamas several times over the last few years? I doubt you’ll see those issues raised in the next JCER video.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/israelis-dispute-pro-obama-video/

-- October 6, 2008 6:09 PM


Sara wrote:

It's not an instant fix..

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Bush says rescue plan will take some time to work
By JENNIFER LOVEN
Oct 6 2008

CINCINNATI - President Bush on Monday said the U.S. economy is going to be "just fine" in the long run. But he cautioned that the massive rescue plan will take time to work.

"I believe that in the long run, this economy is going to be just fine," Bush said. In the short term, he said the Treasury Department must go about enacting its plan to buy up troubled assets from financial firms so that credit will start flowing again to consumers.

Recognizing the scope of the government's intervention, Bush to reassure his audiences that taxpayer money will not be wasted.

The president added that the country has been through rough times before, and "we're going to come through just fine."

Earlier, in Texas, Bush emphasized that the program must be effectively designed and not rushed into action.

"It's going to take awhile to restore confidence in the financial system," he said. "But one thing people can be certain of is that the bill I signed is a big step toward solving this problem."

Bush signed the bill into law after Congress approved it last week.

The catalyst for the selling was the growing realization that the Bush administration's $700 billion rescue plan and steps taken by other governments won't work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets. Global banks, hobbled by wrong-way bets on mortgage securities, remain starved for cash as credit has dried up.

The president, after a weekend at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, met with small business owners at an old-fashioned soda shop in San Antonio. He said he understands why so many people are frustrated about why they were suddenly "helping Wall Street."

"The answer is because had we not done anything, people like the folks behind me would be a lot worse off," Bush said as the business owners stood with him. "We'll make sure, as time goes on, this doesn't happen again."

Bush's comments came as his top economic advisers pledged to work with their counterparts around the world to restore confidence and stability to financial markets roiled by tight credit and worries about a global economic slowdown.

To that end, the administration was expected to announce shortly that it had tapped a 35-year-old former Goldman Sachs executive, Neel Kashkari, to head the government's rescue effort on an interim basis, according to an official who asked not to be named.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_go_pr_wh/meltdown_bush;_ylt=AjBwqnxJyz_Igd63fzDRTpADW7oF

-- October 6, 2008 7:25 PM


Sara wrote:

Hope and change: McCain within three among likely voters in new CBS poll
October 6, 2008
by Allahpundit

Who says I never give you good-ish news, eh?
QUOTE:

In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.

The Obama-Biden ticket led by a wider margin, nine percentage points, in a CBS News poll released last Wednesday, before Joe Biden and Sarah Palin faced off in the vice presidential debate. Obama-Biden led by five percentage points on Sept. 25.

In the new poll, the Democratic ticket leads by 3 percentage points, 48 percent to 45 percent, among likely voters.

==end quote===

CBS notes that Obama’s numbers on the economy have dipped slightly, although why that would lead to him shedding Obama voters instead of just pushing indies towards McCain, I’m not sure. All theories welcome.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/hope-and-change-mccain-within-three-among-likely-voters-in-new-cbs-poll/

-- October 7, 2008 12:28 AM


Sara wrote:

From the Mr. Becker who is, QUOTE:

Mr. Becker, the 1992 Nobel economics laureate - professor of economics at the University of Chicago and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

===

We're Not Headed for a Depression
No, this isn't the crisis that kills global capitalism.
By GARY S. BECKER
OCTOBER 7, 2008

In order to promote a much smoother functioning of the financial system, it is paramount to distinguish between the immediate steps needed to cope with the present crisis and the long-run reforms needed to reduce the likelihood of future crises. Let's start with the short-run fixes.

First of all, the magnitude of this financial disturbance should be placed in perspective. Although it is the most severe financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s, it is a far smaller crisis, especially in terms of the effects on output and employment. The United States had about 25% unemployment during most of the decade from 1931 until 1941, and sharp falls in GDP. Other countries experienced economic difficulties of a similar magnitude. So far, American GDP has not yet fallen, and unemployment has reached only a little over 6%. Both figures are likely to get quite a bit worse, but they will nowhere approach those of the 1930s.

The Treasury's announced insurance of all money-market funds, and the full insurance of bank deposits, carry considerable moral hazard risks, but they have not aroused much controversy. The main thrust of the new banking law allows the Treasury secretary to purchase bank assets up to $700 billion in order to increase the liquidity of the banking system. These assets are of uncertain worth since there is essentially no market for many of them, and hence they have no market price. The government hopes to create this market partly through using auctions, where banks would offer their assets at particular prices, and the government would decide whether to buy them. I would have preferred starting with a smaller dollar value of purchases, and up the amount if the situation deteriorates further.

Partly because many consumers are repelled by the intention to bail out companies and their executives who made decisions that got the companies into trouble, the new law includes income and severance pay limits for executives whose firms seek government help. Even though one cannot think much of executives who led their banks into such a mess, that is a bad precedent since it involves too much micromanagement of bank operations. Moreover, such salary controls can be evaded by very generous fringe benefits.

The moral-hazard consequences for banks receiving a bailout now is worrisome since they may expect to get rescued again by the government if their future investments turn sour. Yet while I find helping these banks highly distasteful, moral-hazard concerns should be temporarily relaxed when the whole short-term credit system is close to collapse. Still, the bank bill with its huge bailout does suggest that the $29 billion bailout of the bondholders of Bear Stearns in March was a mistake. It seemed to have a moral-hazard effect by encouraging Lehman Brothers and other investment banks to delay in raising more capital because they too might have expected the government to come to their rescue if times got much worse. Although the government was apparently concerned that foreign central banks were major holders of the bonds, it was unwise to give them and other bondholders such full protection.

One troubling provision is that the government can take an equity stake in banks it helps. Some economists have proposed a similar role for government equity in these banks. I believe it is unwise to give governments equity in private companies, even if the government does not have voting rights in company policies. Many examples in recent history, such as the current Alitalia fiasco, show that political interests outweigh economic ones when governments have some ownership of private companies. This is likely to happen in this bailout if some banks that are helped decide to sharply cut employment in the districts of some congressmen, or to transfer many jobs overseas.

Taxpayers may be stuck with hundreds of billions of dollars of losses from the various government insurance provisions and government purchases of assets. Although the media has made much of this possibility through headlines like "$700 Billion Bailout," such large losses are highly unlikely except in the low probability event that the economy falls into a sustained major depression. Indeed, with efficient auctions, the government may well make money on its actions, just as the Resolution Trust Corporation that took over many savings-and-loan banks during the 1980s crisis did not lose much, if any, money. By buying assets when they are depressed and waiting out the crisis, the government may have a profit on these assets when they are finally sold back to the private sector. Making money does not mean the government involvement is wise, but the likely losses to taxpayers are being greatly exaggerated.

The temporary banning of short sales is an example of a perennial approach to difficulties in financial markets and elsewhere; namely, "shoot the messenger." Short sales did not cause the crisis, but reflect beliefs about how long the slide will continue. Trying to prevent these beliefs from being expressed suppresses useful information, and also creates serious problems for many hedge funds that use short sales to hedge other risks. Their ban can also cause greater panic in other markets.

The main problem with the modern financial system based on widespread use of derivatives and securitization is that while financial specialists understand how individual assets function, even they have limited understanding of the aggregate risks created by the system. That is, insufficient appreciation of how the whole incredibly complex financial system operates when exposed to various types of stress. In light of such limitations, it is difficult to propose long-term reforms. Still, a few reforms seem reasonably likely to reduce the probability of future financial crises.

- Increase capital requirements. The capital requirements of banks relative to assets should be increased after the crisis is over in order to prevent the highly leveraged ratios of assets to capital in financial institutions during the past several years. Possibly a minimum ratio of capital to assets should be imposed by the Fed on investment banks and money funds. As much as possible, the measure of capital should not be its book value but its market value, such as the market value of publicly traded shares of banks. Book value measures, for example, apparently badly missed the plight of Japanese banks during their decade-long banking crisis of the 1990s.

- Sell Freddie and Fannie. The government should as quickly as possible sell Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to fully private companies that receive no government insurance or other help. These two giants did not cause the housing mess, but in recent years they surely greatly contributed to it, partly through congressional pressure on them to increase their purchases of subprime loans. They have owned or guaranteed almost half of the $12 trillion in outstanding mortgages while having a small capital base. The housing market already has excessive amounts of government subsidies, such as from the tax exemption of interest on mortgages, and should not have government sponsored enterprises that insure mortgage-backed securities.

- No more bailouts. The "too big to fail" approach to banks and other companies should be abandoned as new long-term financial policies are developed. Such an approach is inconsistent with a free-market economy. It also has caused dubious company bailouts in the past, such as the large government loan years ago to Chrysler, a company that remained weak and should have been allowed to go into bankruptcy. All the American auto companies have asked for and received handouts too since they cannot compete against Japanese, Korean and German car makers, partly because these American companies have been incredibly badly managed. A "too many institutions in trouble to fail principle," as in the present financial crisis, may still be necessary on rare occasions, but failure of badly run large financial and other companies is healthy and indeed necessary for the survival of a robust free-enterprise competitive system.

Is this a final "Crisis of Global Capitalism" -- to borrow the title of a book by George Soros written shortly after the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98? The crisis that kills capitalism has been said to happen during every major recession and financial crisis ever since Karl Marx prophesized the collapse of capitalism in the middle of the 19th century. Although I admit to having greatly underestimated the severity of the current crisis, I am confident that sizable world economic growth will resume before very long under a mainly capitalist world economy.

Consider, for example, that in the decade after various predictions of the collapse of global capitalism following the Asian crisis, both world GDP and world trade experienced unprecedented growth thanks to the power of market competition on a global scale. The South Korean economy, for example, was pummeled during that crisis, but has had significant economic growth since. World economic growth will recover once we are over the present severe financial difficulties.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122333679431409639.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

-- October 7, 2008 12:44 AM


Sara wrote:

Knowing this ISN'T a depression in the making... (previous post)
What do you make of the actions of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid?
In a recent newsletter I received, Martin D. Weiss noted:
QUOTE:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid just announced, “One of the individuals in the caucus today talked about a major insurance company. A major insurance company — one with a name that everyone knows that's on the verge of going bankrupt.”

Almost immediately, investors slaughtered insurance stocks. Prudential fell 11% ... Met Life plunged 14.9% ... and Hartford plunged 32%.

Reid’s office instantly switched into damage control mode, claiming that the Senator really meant that the entire financial sector is on the verge of mass bankruptcy. That wasn’t exactly reassuring to insurance investors either, and their stocks promptly plunged some more.

==end quote==

What could be the possible reason(s) for causing such a selloff in the marketplace?
Does Obama win more votes as the economy becomes less stable?
Is the MSM helping the perception that the economy is less stable than it is..
for political gain?
Or was it simply more irresponsible behavior we have come to expect from incompetent politicians?

Giving Reid the benefit of the doubt.. Maybe he "didn't know" that the first statement would cause mass selloffs?
So then.. his office then made it more official for the entire sector to get taken down further in the second statement?
They just.. didn't anticipate that happening - is that what you would say?
Hmm.. how come I could see it would happen that way?
Why is it that I could understand and see..
That Reid saying the ENTIRE FINANCIAL SECTOR is on the verge of mass bankruptcy.. might precipitate further selloff?
Could you see that, too?

So, was it totally innocent.. OR calculated?
What do you judge about the "good intentions" during a Presidential race by Democrat elites like Reid?
And with the MSM singing merrily in tune about the damages and playing the crisis up to the skies..
all the while Obama gains in the polls as the public perception favors Obama to "help" with economics..
What do you think of the "good intentions" of Obama and Democrat elites like Reid?
"Scaremongering" ?? For political gain?
Or mere incompetence and inability to act with statesmanship and wisdom?

Sara.

-- October 7, 2008 1:02 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq: Battle for business begins

A fall in the number of attacks across Iraq has emboldened a growing list of companies, including ArcelorMittal, Royal Dutch Shell and Cairn Energy, to explore opportunities in the resources-rich country for the first time since the invasion.
(www.noozz.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:15 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

SIIC adheres to draft new article over minorities, says Taqi 07/10/2008 13:37:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Legislator of the United Iraqi Alliance Ridha Jawad Taqi, also a leader within the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council, said that the SIIC intends to draft a new article to ensure minorities’ rights within the provincial elections law.
(www.ninanews.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:16 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

IOM praises Iraqi policies for encouraging returnees

Population 10/7/2008 4:04:00 PM



GENEVA, Oct 7 (KUNA) -- According to IOM's latest Displacement and Return Assessment Report published this week, the Government of Iraq is placing increased emphasis on the return of Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) and refugees through a variety of legal and practical measures, including an allocation of USD 213 million for all expenditures related to return support.
The spokesperson for the International Organization for Migration (IOM) Jean-Philippe Chauzy told reporters that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Order 101, which took effect on September 1st, requires that all squatters vacate houses they unlawfully occupy in Baghdad or face prosecution. All squatters who accept to leave property will receive USD 255 per month compensation for six months, to help them identify alternative housing options.
"As of 21 September, and based on available information from the Ministry of Displacement and Migration (MoDM) returnee registration, IOM and field visits by MoDM monitors, UNHCR rapid assessments, and other sources, 16,782 families totalling 100,692 individuals have returned to Baghdad," said Chauzy. An additional 11,986 returnee families have been identified in the rest of the country, 8,691 of whom are in Anbar and Diyala governorates. Countrywide, 92% of returns are from internal displacement.
According to Chauzy the estimated number of IDPs since the bombing of the Samarra Al-Askari Mosque in February 2006 is almost 1,596,448 individuals. This figure, combined with the estimated 1,212,108 individuals who were internally displaced before February 2006, means that more than 2,8 million individuals are currently displaced within the country. (end) hn.bz.
KUNA 071604 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Abu Dhabi CP to visit Iraq Tuesday

Politics 10/7/2008 1:46:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Oct 7 (KUNA) -- Abu Dhabi Crown Prince and Deputy Chief of the Armed Forces of the UAE, Air Marshal Sheikh Mohammad Bin Zayed Al-Nuhayyan, is heading an official delegation due to visit Baghdad on Tuesday.
An official statement, released on Tuesday, said the visit aimed at holding talks with senior Iraqi officials on boosting bilateral relations and mutual cooperation between both countries.
Sheikh Mohammad's visit was preceded by a mission in Baghdad by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Abul Gheit and the Arab League's resumption of its tasks there.
The visit is aimed at following up on bilateral talks that were launched by the visit of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), followed by an alike visit by the UAE Foreign Minister to Baghdad.
The UAE has waived the entire debt on Iraq, which amounts to seven billion US dollars. It has also expressed readiness to participate in reconstructing Iraq.
Sheikh Abdallah Bin Zayid Al Nahyan, the Foreign Minister, visited Baghdad in early July, on the first such visit by a high-level GCC official visit since toppling Sadam Hussein's regime.
Abdullah Ibrahim al-Shehhi was appointed as the UAE new ambassador in Baghdad in early September.(end) ahh.ts.sab KUNA 071346 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:20 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi parliament speaker arrives in Tehran

Politics 10/7/2008 12:38:00 PM



TEHRAN, Oct 7 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Parliament speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani arrived in the Iranian capital on Tuesday on a two-day official visit where he will hold talks and negotiations with senior officials.
"Major regional issues and the security agreement that said to be worked out soon between Baghdad and Washington is the main objective of the visit," Al-Mashhadani told reporters as he arrived in Tehran's Mehrabad International Airport.
He said the Iraqi Parliament should consider neighboring countries' opinions over the "controversial" security agreement that would raise regional questions.
Al-Mashhadani pointed out that a draft of the agreement was referred to the cabinet. It would be also to the parliament and the presidential council.
He said that the agreement needs the approval of the Iraqi cabinet, parliament and presidential council to be legally validated.
Al-Mashhadani is scheduled to meet his Iranian counterpart, Ali Larijani, along with the President of the Islamic Republic, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as well as Chairmen of the Expediency Council.
The Iraqi official was originally planned to arrive in Tehran on Monday, but it delayed. (end) mw.sab KUNA 071238 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

$8 billion contracts to generate 11,000 additional megawatts of electricity in Iraq
By Ammar Iamd

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07 October 2008 (Azzaman)
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The Ministry of Electricity has signed $8 billion deals with the U.S. General Electric, Siemens and other Western engineering firms for the construction of power plants that will generate 11,000 megawatts, electricity minister said.

Kareem Waheed said the bulk of the money will go to General Electric, or GE, a multinational U.S. technology conglomerate.

He said GE will build plants with a capacity to produce 6,800 megawatts.

Siemens, Europe’s finest and largest engineering company, will build plants capable of producing 2,000 megawatts.

Waheed said the deals were complete as memorandums of understanding had been signed with each of the firms long time ago.

But he said the firms were reluctant to start working in Iraq due to high levels of violence.

As violence was receding, the firms have expressed a willingness to go ahead with their commitments, Waheed claimed.

“All in all we have deals which in completion will add 11,000 megawatts to the national grid,” he added

Acute power shortages and protracted blackouts that continue for nearly 20 hours a day in major Iraqi cities have been a characteristic of U.S.-administered and occupied Iraq.

Iraq currently produces 5,500 megawatts, which is still below the amount its rickety and sanctions-hit power plants used to generate under former leader Saddam Hussein.

Waheed put Iraq’s current power needs at 11,000 megawatts.

He gave no further details of the contracts.
(www.iraupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:24 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The only place unaffected by financial turmoil: Iraq
Fear and uncertainty were hot commodities in global markets Monday.
By David Goldstein

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07 October 2008 (McClatchy Newspapers)

Stocks plummeted and currencies fell as shock waves from the Wall Street meltdown continued to reverberate across financial capitals.

The Mexican peso plunged to its lowest level in years. Its stock market dropped 5.4 percent.

Brazil and Russia temporarily halted trading after a series of steep drops on their exchanges.

Meanwhile, Sweden, Denmark and Austria joined Ireland and Germany on a growing list of European countries that have pledged to guarantee bank deposits to tamp down consumer worries.

"This is a stampede," said Valerie Plagnol, chief strategist at CM-CIC Securities in Paris.

On the very day that Washington began to unfold the $700 billion economic rescue mission, foreign governments and investors seemed resigned to a long period of tight credit and turmoil.

Russia suspended its benchmark RTS stock index twice on Monday, as it fell 19.1 percent, its worst ever one-day drop. It had already halted trading three times last Friday, hoping to slow sliding shares and capping the market's worst week in nearly a decade.

Russia on Monday also shut down its second major market, the Micex, three times. It had fallen nearly 19 percent.

The global credit crunch has compounded Russia's financial woes. It's already reeling from the one-two punch of falling oil prices and the loss of billions in foreign investment after the August war with Georgia.

In Latin America, the U.S. financial crisis caused trading on Brazil's stock exchange to be halted twice on a day when the value dropped by 8 percent.

In Argentina, stocks fell 10 percent, and currencies across the region tumbled against the dollar.

"The turmoil is really starting to hit Latin America," Jane Eddy, a senior regional specialist for ratings agency Standard & Poor's. "You have stock market drops, currencies weakening and credit really drying up. Everyone is on hold waiting to see what will happen over the next two weeks."

The uncertainty comes at a time when Latin America has been enjoying its strongest sustained economic growth in 25 years. The region grew by 5.7 percent in 2007 and was projected to grow by about 4.5 percent in 2008.

Thomaz Teixeira, a stock analyst at Socopa Corretora in Sao Paulo, said investors were not necessarily in a "panic."

"But they're selling for the sake of selling at whatever price," he said. "In time, though, we believe that the market will heal."

In South Africa, the stock market hit its lowest mark in more than eight years. Banks in Zimbabwe ran out of cash after depositors tried to pull out their money.

In Pakistan, already embattled on the political front, the rupee hit a new low against the dollar. With its currency having lost 21 percent of its value already this year, Standard & Poor's warned that the country was close to bankruptcy.

Next door, in India, stocks fell nearly 5.8 percent, the lowest close in two years. The index has shed more than 42 percent of its value this year, with foreign investors leading the retreat.

In response, the capital market regulator lifted curbs Monday on overseas investors to halt record sales by offshore funds.

In the Middle East, Kuwait pumped $374.3 million into the banking systems Monday and Saudi Arabia injected more $26 million into its stock market, local newspapers reported.

Apparently immune to all the turbulence was Iraq. The government has little if any investments in the institutions affected by the crisis and a barely functioning stock market. Most Iraqis keep their money in their homes rather than trust banks.

"We don't believe it will affect our bank balance," said Minister of Industry Fawzi Hariri. "In the short term we'll be one of the least affected nations."

The Iraqi government has more than $25 billion in cash reserves. Even with oil prices dropping below $90 a barrel, the Iraqis forecast oil revenues to be in the neighborhood of $80 billion.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:26 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq FM Says US-Iraq Forces Deal Near
October 07, 2008
Associated Press

BAGHDAD - The U.S. and Iraq are close to a deal to keep U.S. troops in this country next year but it will take "bold political decisions" to overcome the final hurdles, Iraq's foreign minister said today.

Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari made his comments to reporters at a joint press conference with U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte.

Zebari said the two sides were "very close" to an agreement to replace the U.N. mandate that expires this year.

But he added that "I don't want to give you any false hope," citing the longtime sticking-point issue of legal immunity for U.S. troops under Iraqi law.

"This issue needs, I think, some bold political decisions. And we are at that stage," he said, adding that he expected "hectic political meetings here in Baghdad on this issue to determine the fate of the agreement."

Shortly before the press conference began in the Green Zone, two explosions occurred in front of the Foreign Ministry, which is outside the U.S.-protected area. At least five Iraqis were injured.

U.S. and Iraqi negotiators have been working for months to hammer out an agreement to govern the operations of American troops in this country. Iraqi officials say the deal calls for U.S troops to leave the country by the end of 2011 unless the Baghdad government asks them to stay.

But immunity has emerged as a major stumbling block. The Iraqis want legal jurisdiction over American soldiers as an affirmation of sovereignty.

The agreement must be approved by parliament, and Iraqi officials fear opposition unless the deal satisfies Iraqi nationalists. Zebari said the U.S. had submitted new "reasonable" proposals on immunity but stressed that the Iraqi government had taken no final decision.

Negroponte refused to discuss specifics of the talks, saying only that "both countries are pursuing this issue from the point of view of their own national self-interest."

The Iraqi government is under strong pressure from neighboring Iran not to enter into a security agreement with the United States.

On Tuesday, Gen. Masoud Jazayeri, deputy chief of staff of the Iranian armed forces, said in a statement that the agreement would be a "disgrace" for the Iraqis.

Iran opposes the security talks, saying the presence of American forces in Iraq causes regional instability.
(www.military.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:29 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Blasts near Iraq ministry as U.S. official visits
Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:44am EDT


BAGHDAD, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Two blasts struck outside Iraq's Foreign Ministry on Tuesday as visiting U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte prepared to hold a press conference in the Green Zone compound nearby, Reuters reporters at the scene said.

Police said two mortar rounds had landed in the area, wounding five civilians. One Reuters reporter said vehicles were ablaze. Another said two columns of smoke were visible.

The Foreign Ministry building is adjacent to the fortified Green Zone government and diplomatic compound, where journalists were assembled for a news conference by Negroponte and Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari.

The news conference began as scheduled shortly after, and Negroponte said progress in security in Iraq was "striking".

Militants have fired rockets or mortar rounds at the Green Zone during visits by senior U.S. officials in the past. Negroponte, a former U.S. ambassador to Iraq, has been in the country for several days and has held meetings with senior Iraqi officials.

Washington and Baghdad have been in intense negotiations on a new agreement to allow U.S. forces to remain in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires at the end of this year.
(www.reuters.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

UAE's Etislat says planned acquisition will be in Iraq
Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:35am EDT

By Stanley Carvalho

ABU DHABI, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Emirates Telecommunications Corp ETEL.AD (Etisalat) said on Tuesday that its planned Middle East acquisition will be in Iraq and that it expected "very positive" results for the third quarter.

"It is Iraq but it is not yet finalised. We will shortly announce it," Etisalat Chairman Mohammed Omran told Reuters on the sidelines of a news conference, declining to give details.

An Etisalat official told Reuters last month that the firm was in final-stage talks to buy a majority stake worth up to $1 billion in a Middle East telecoms operator this year but did not announce the country.

Etisalat has been expanding aggressively abroad, snapping up assets in countries such as Pakistan, Egypt and India. It operates in 16 countries.

Mobile penetration in the United Arab Emirates, which has a population of 4.5 million people, exceeds 150 percent. Du DU.DU telecom broke Etisalat's monopoly when it started operations in February 2007.

Omran said that the global financial crisis had not impacted Etisalat and the company expected to post positive third quarter results shortly.

"Etisalat will shortly announce its third quarter results. Our results are very positive," he said declining to elaborate due to stock market regulations.

"Definitely the international financial crisis is having impact worldwide. But it is too early to say......about positive or negative impact. Etisalat will continue to do well."
(www.reuters.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 7, 2008 9:38 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraqi women fear going public as candidates

By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 6, 1:56 PM ET

BAGHDAD - The 38-year-old teacher wanted to participate in Iraq's first provincial elections in four years — until she realized that a new law would require the ballot to list her name, not just her party.

Even as violence has declined, lingering fear bred by rampant crime and a small but die-hard insurgency has left many Iraqi women afraid to run in the elections, to be held by Jan. 31.

"I feel that I am unprotected," said the teacher, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because of her fears. "I am not going to run in the elections because I fear for the safety of members of my family who might be targeted."

The teacher, a Sunni who considers herself a political independent, hails from Baqouba, a former stronghold of al-Qaida in Iraq some 35 miles northeast of Baghdad. Al-Qaida and other Sunni extremists have frequently attacked more moderate Sunnis who cooperate with the Iraqi government or U.S.-led forces.

The election jitters are part of a larger concern about violence and traditional values or prejudice sidelining women from important jobs. The constitution provides that men and women have basic legal rights such as voting and owning property and suing in court. But deep differences exist within Iraqi society over the role of women and of Islam.

Under heavy U.S. pressure to promote gender equality, the Iraqis agreed to a 25 percent quota for women in the last elections for parliament and provincial councils, both held in 2005. A law paving the way for the new vote to be held by Jan. 31 maintains that requirement, opening the door for women to make up at least a quarter of the provincial councils.

But there's a crucial difference this time.

In the past elections, names did not appear on the ballot — only numbers and symbols identified with political parties. That system helped empower well-organized religious parties and left many Iraqis feeling little connection with elected officials who were supposed to represent them.

In the new vote, the names of candidates must be presented to voters.

The change to a so-called open list has scared some qualified Iraqis from running, particularly women. Activists are worried there won't be enough women to meet the 25 percent threshold, or that the parties will just find women to act as figureheads to fill the quota.

Said Arikat, a spokesman for the U.N. mission in Iraq, noted that "some statistics show that when countries move from closed to open lists, women don't fare as well."

But he said the switch to an open list can also be difficult for men. "Running for elections in Iraq takes courage and commitment by all candidates," he said.

Unlike other countries where politicians crave the limelight, Iraqis generally try to avoid drawing attention to themselves; tens of thousands of people have been killed for purportedly backing U.S. efforts or as part of power struggles with rival parties.

Underscoring the dangers, gunmen last week broke into a house and killed Mohammad Radhi al-Halfi, a contractor who planned to run as an independent for the provincial council in the former southern Shiite militia stronghold of Basra.

"We believe that the coming elections are risky, especially for those independents whose names are disclosed," al-Halfi's brother Haider said. "We tried our best to prevent him from participating, but our efforts were in vain and that cost him his life."

The problem is more acute for women who have come under attack simply for wearing makeup or refusing to don head scarves and head-to-toe black robes — behavior deemed un-Islamic by extremists.

Women also have come under scrutiny for defying traditional norms that discourage them from mixing with men or occupying a public role.

"The women are afraid because their names will be published ... because of al-Qaida, because of terror groups and extremists," said Nirmeen Othman, a former minister for women's affairs.

A 35-year-old female lawyer from the Shiite holy city of Najaf, who also declined to be identified to avoid being targeted, said she did not want to put her family in danger.

"I am afraid that some fundamentalists or political groups might target me in order to ensure that they control the provincial council," she said. "I might run for the elections in the future if the security situation is better."

Inaam Hamid, who accepted a spot on the Baghdad provincial council in 2005 with the main Shiite party the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council said she'll run for re-election — but will do so as anonymously as possible.

"I won't put my picture on a poster. I won't use mass media. I'll depend on the people who know me to get my votes," she said during a recent interview in her ground floor office at the provincial government headquarters in Baghdad.

"It's a disaster — the names being out there," Hamid said, fiddling with her wedding ring as the air conditioner muffled the noise coming from Iraqi petitioners and a group of U.S. soldiers in the busy hall of the heavily fortified building.

The 43-year-old former political prisoner and mother of five proudly ticked off her accomplishments, ranging from helping establish vocational workshops for women to ensuring that victims of violence are properly compensated.

Othman, now the environmental minister, said she understands women's fears of running but said it's important to participate in the elections to change Iraq.

"We must have women in provincial councils, in governing councils, in parliament — everywhere if we want to have our voices heard in decision-making positions," Othman said during an interview at her Baghdad home in the U.S.-protected Green Zone.

She said some women themselves do not accept the notion of equality between men and women.

"We must persuade women to vote for women," she said. "We must also try to teach them how to campaign. It's not easy."

-- October 7, 2008 12:44 PM


cornishboy wrote:

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Dinar Bekaz lifted and the central policy change

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 10-08-2008 at 14:26:39


Gave the Iraqi economy, experts blamed the Central Bank that his "deflationary" led to the disruption of development, as has its dependence on the dollar grant auction exchange rate "not true" for the value of the dollar "brought Bekaz" of the dinar, calling on Central to change monetary policy.

Another translation of the above:
Experts at the Iraqi economy put by the blame on the central bank being its policy " deflationary " it led to the hindrance of development, while did its dependence throughout Exchange rate " not real " to the dollar against a value " a raised by a crutch " of the dinar, callings central for the change of its cash policy .

He said the economic advisor to Prime Minister Abdel Hussein Al-Anbuge "The Central Bank monetary policy of withdrawing liquidity from the market led to the disruption of overall development in the country," where the central adopt a "vision that the monetary inflation in Iraq, but the reality is another theory reflects the fact that we have a real inflation Stems from a structural imbalance and lack of investment, which prompted the withdrawal of liquidity to lift interest rates, "he said.

He told Al-Anbuge (Voices of Iraq) that the central bank "more than three years without a deflationary policy is to get positive results, which confirms that inflation is not critical," pointing out that "The exchange rate is not true because the price of building the Central price support policy Exchange of the dollar during the auction, meaning that the dinar lifted Bekaz does not reflect the real power by the Central Bank. "

He said the exchange rate "if we get real goods and services, including more of our money, which separated the dinar's exchange rate of inflation."

He noted that Al-Anbuge to address the high prices, Iraq, "the Atkmen through the treatments in cash but through real actions" in the sense that "there is no problem in supply deal with but by increasing domestic production stability of the financial and monetary Velayati through cash only, there should be spending Investment. "

And the alternatives available to the Central Bank policy adviser to the prime minister said it was "lies in the adoption of expansionary fiscal policy supported by expansionary monetary policy is also to build infrastructure and development to push forward, I do not think that the economy needs a stable monetary only as useful as backward in the level of development."

He said the rise in the general level of prices "can not be seen by the low exchange rate of the dollar only citizen does not have the details of this process, which is a contradiction between the view of the situation as it expected to see the low prices of goods commensurate with the rate of decline of the dollar against the Iraqi dinar."

He added that "(citizens) should be viewed from all aspects of the process because the cost of imports increased security, transport and electricity all of which reflected negatively on the prices of goods is done on them instead of the opposite happening."

In turn, economic researcher Ray Hilfi Abdul-Jabbar said there are reasons behind the inverse relationship between the decline in the dollar and high prices in the market.

He told Al (Voices of Iraq) that "the conflict between fiscal and monetary policies of the bank is one of causes linked to the situation and not in direct inverse is also assumed to be" where "fiscal policy of pumping cash new market by increasing expenditures lead to inflation reflected negatively on the goods inside the market Local. "

He noted that this was "contrary to the Central Bank, which is deflationary monetary policy to reduce liquidity ratios," which is "has nothing to do with the low price of the dollar caused a kind of inflation derivative called inflation."

Hilfi pointed out that "the State in 2003 after the market rose out of the private sector has controlled the market" and that the goods "are mostly imported or purchased, the currencies of neighboring countries while the trader Slath conduct does not sell at a low dollar in Iraq, but the high price of the dollar to the States Buy, the dollar is still strong in the neighboring markets. "

He considered that "the low exchange rate does not mean that the dinar value went up, we are not dealing in foreign dealings," that the high prices "have not reached the food, but even gold prices increased in Iraq due to increased demand for storage to ensure that more of the value of the dollar."

Hilfi and that there should not be overlooked variable is a significant "increase in crude oil prices which reflected negatively on the prices of fuel, we believe that commodity prices rose," as the relationship between the dinar and the dollar "are isolated and jailer Central Bank is far from the Iraqi market."

He suggested that "the solution lies in the coordination between fiscal and monetary policies through the Ministry of Planning" in addition to "State intervention to save the consumer determine the prices of goods as found in many countries and revive the agricultural and industrial economy to avoid the import of goods from abroad in dollars."

The director of the Economic Section of the Institute of the Arab Najm Research Abdel Rahman al-Mashhadani, said that "the problem lies in the relationship always be a direct correlation between the decline in the exchange rate and improve the value of Dinaraeraki."

He said: "The inverse relationship is maintained by the property the Iraqi market, because direct correlation in all the countries of the world", pointing out that the relationship is "the direct correlation we have except in the case of the high exchange rate was low but getting a corresponding decline in prices a problem suffered by Iraq since Altsainat Merchants do to prevent sales to decline once the dinar. "

The other reason for high prices, according to al-Mashhadani, was "high demand for the Iraqi market, so demand is constantly rising, even if prices rise This is a result of improved living standards and increase the salaries of staff."

He noted that it would "give greater flexibility to the trader in raising the price because there are always buying, not to mention the food which Insusceptible demand any case," expected "further rises in commodities, especially because of construction-oriented government and private construction."

Mashhadani rejected the idea of state intervention in determining the prices of goods as "state policy towards the free market, privatization and intervention would contradict the words" in addition to the "market competition is able to solve the problems of price himself."

The State's general policy of "Bungled" and that "there is no point in the direction of a specific policy or the future of economic policy in Iraq."

Arabic..http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.aswataliraq.info&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

-- October 8, 2008 9:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Lukoil Urges Iraq to Approve Oil Deal

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08 October 2008 (AFX News Limited)
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Lukoil urged Iraq's oil minister on Tuesday to remove obstacles to its investment in the West Qurna deposit, a month after China became the first country to renegotiate a Saddam Hussein-era oil deal.

Lukoil Chief Executive Vagit Alekperov told Reuters Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani was solely responsible for delaying the West Qurna deal, despite Russia's willingness to write off most of the Middle Eastern country's debt.

"We have offered our expertise and, if there are political aspects, to remove them. Unfortunately the (Iraqi) Energy Ministry has taken no steps," said Alekperov, who owns about 20 percent of Lukoil, Russia's second-largest oil producer.

"This is despite the fact Russia is probably the country that has written off the biggest Iraqi debt in order to ease the country's fate," he said.

Russia agreed in February to write off most of Iraq's remaining $12.9 billion debt and signed a separate deal to open up the country to $4 billion in investment from Russian firms. Moscow had already forgiven Iraq the bulk of its debt.

Iraq's cabinet last month approved a $3 billion oil service contract with the Chinese National Petroleum Company, originally signed in 1997, in a move that could shape future deals in a country boasting the world's third-largest proven oil reserves.

Lukoil is fighting to revive its West Qurna deal, which was signed while Saddam Hussein was in power in Iraq. JP Morgan analysts have valued the Russian company's stake in the project at as much as $6.8 billion.

Shahristani, the Iraqi oil minister, has said the original contract was "totally unfair" and, announcing the Chinese deal in September, said Iraq had refused anything but a service contract and would not share its oil.

"There exists the position of the minister, of one person," said Alekperov. "I hope we will find a compromise decision."

Lukoil, owned 20 percent by U.S. oil major ConocoPhillips, is also exploring new projects in Venezuela, Alekperov said.

In addition to its individual projects in the South American country, Lukoil is part of a five-company Russian consortium to develop projects in the Orinoco River valley, he said.

"These deposits are located close to the market. It's an absolutely new market that Russian companies can open up for themselves," he said.

Lukoil is participating in the consortium with Rosneft , Gazprom, TNK-BP and Surgutneftegas.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Egyptian Companies Seek Oil Projects in Iraq

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08 October 2008 (Xinhua News Agency)
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Egypt has formed a delegation of oil companies to probe petroleum projects in Iraq, Egyptian Minister of Petroleum Sameh Fahmi said on Tuesday.

The Egyptian delegation will have talks with Iraqi officials on rehabilitating the oil infrastructure in Iraq, the Egyptian MENA news agency quoted Fahmi as saying.

Besides the projects on developing oil fields, refineries, pipelines and production pads, the Egyptian companies will also seek prospecting operations in Iraq.

But the official has not informed when the delegation would go to visit Iraq.

According to Fahmi, the two countries have reached a deal on strategic cooperation in petro-industries.

On Sunday, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said during his landmark visit to Baghdad it was the right time for the two countries to promote bilateral ties.

Abul Gheit also revealed that Fahmi, who accompanied him, had met with Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani, and both sides agreed on enhancing cooperation in the fields of oil and gas.

The two countries have agreed to reopen the Egyptian embassy in Baghdad, which was closed following the killing of Egyptian top diplomat Ihab al-Sherif by suspected al-Qaida militants in July 2005.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Dubai Holding is pursuing to get investment opportunities in Basrah

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08 October 2008 (Iraq Directory)
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The governor of Basra declared that a delegation from Dubai Holding company visited the province of Basra on Monday , and had a look at the reality of the city and investment opportunities there.

Mohammed al-Waeli, clarified that "the delegation included Deputy Prime of ports in Dubai and the director of development in the Emirates Islamic Bank, as discussed with government officials in Basra on the mechanism for the implementation of some investment projects especially in the area of port investment."

He added "Our mates in UAE have the significant ability and the accumulated experience in the area of investment; they are serious about entering with all their strength in this area in the province."

He pointed out that there are many Arab and foreign companies declared their readiness to implement investment projects in Basra and soon will begin the licensing process for these companies to conduct their work.

He stated that "The delegation toured around the city of Basra and saw the ports and Shat al Arabs and expressed their admiration for what they found as positive changes in security and stability."

He pointed out that the meeting was attended by Chairman of Investment Authority and the Director of Basra Chamber of Commerce and director of ports and the Reporter of the provincial council in Basra and the director of the Central Bank of Iraq in Basra. "

For his part, Vice President of the ports in Dubai Hassan Hadi described the visit as "Successful," he said, "That Emirates and Arab investors to look at Basra as an important investment location and aspire to create job opportunities in various economic fields." He noted that the next two months will witness positive steps in this area.

The city of Basra, the status of the province of Basra, about 590 km south of Baghdad.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Nigerian conflict a warning for Big Oil in Iraq

Recurrent violence in oil-rich parts of Nigeria may provide a sobering lesson for oil companies hoping to work in Iraq _ a place that is much more dangerous despite the fact that attacks are at their lowest level in more than four years.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Sinaid: Minorities' case to be settled this week 08/10/2008 16:54:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The United Iraqi Alliance MP Hasan al-Sinaid has expected an amendment on the provincial elections law, over the issue of minorities' representation, to be performed during this week. He told the National Iraqi News Agency Wednesday.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Atta: BOC receive responsibility of 50,000 Sahwa fighters 08/10/2008 16:08:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Spokesperson of Baghdad Operations Command Major General Qasim Ata declared that the Command has started receiving files of Sahwa fighters “Sons of Iraq." He told a press briefing held Wednesday that BOC received files of 49,381.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 10:33 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq's next big test looms this month
By Rayyan al-Shawaf
07 October 2008 (The Daily Star)

This month will be critical in Iraq, with 100,000 militiamen to be transferred from United States to Iraqi command. Grouped in a loose confederation called the "Awakening Councils" or the "Sons of Iraq," these militiamen have been fighting alongside American forces for two years. The fighters, 80 percent of whom are Sunni Arabs, have been credited with driving Al-Qaeda out of several majority-Sunni areas and bringing stability to large swaths of the country, especially Baghdad and Anbar Province. For Iraq to continue on the road to recovery, it is imperative that the Awakening Councils be fully integrated into the Iraqi state.

The Awakening Councils were born almost exactly two years ago, when local American commanders began to reach out to tribal elders in the Sunni Anbar region, then a hotbed of Al-Qaeda and insurgent activity. The Americans sensed that the Anbar tribes were fed up with Al-Qaeda's nihilism and would welcome the chance to expel the foreign terrorists; however they needed incentives and protection. The US Army promised regular monthly salaries - $300 for fighters, more for tribal leaders - and the full benefits of a military alliance. Recruits would be armed and trained by US forces. Operating under US command, the groups would receive all the military backing needed to rid their areas of Al-Qaeda.

Tribal elders gave the project their blessing and tens of thousands of men signed up. Many had previously been insurgents; some had even worked for Al-Qaeda. Now, these men took the lead in routing Al-Qaeda in Anbar Province. Soon, Awakening Councils emerged in other provinces, including Babel, Diyala, Salahuddin, Tamim, and Nineveh. Sometimes they were formed without any contact with US forces - in anticipation of US support. Everywhere their actions bore fruit. In Baghdad, a variation of the Awakening Councils that was less tribal and more neighborhood-based chased insurgents out of most Sunni areas.

Together with Muqtada Sadr's unilateral cease-fire and the US military's surge in and around Baghdad, the actions of the Awakening Councils played a major role in tamping down the violence in Iraq and restoring hope that the country may yet return to normalcy. Soon, however, a new problem presented itself. As US forces began handing control of Iraqi regions to the Shiite-dominated Iraqi military and preparing to assume a back seat as the Iraqi state asserted itself, the question arose of what to do with the largely Sunni Awakening Councils.

In theory, the Iraqi government has undertaken to integrate all members of the councils into the framework of the Iraqi state. This is encouraging, as opposition to such a move in some Shiite quarters has been strong. Sadr, for example, disapproved of proposals that the Iraqi Army and police absorb even a fraction of the councils' members. Eventually, however, a plan of sorts was laid out, and October was set as the date by which the process of absorption would begin. Recently, approximately half of the Awakening Councils' 100,000 members were officially transferred to Iraqi control, with the other half soon to follow. By October 31, the Iraqi state will assume the task of paying their salaries.

Unfortunately, the Iraqi government's plan is riddled with problems. Only 20 percent of the Awakening Councils' 100,000 men will be admitted into the army or police. To the councils' approximately 80,000 remaining members, the government has promised vocational training and jobs in the public or private sector, while continuing to pay their salaries. The main reason behind the government's refusal to admit all of the councils' fighters into the army and police is Shiite parties' opposition to the move, though even Sunni establishment organizations such as the Association of Muslim Scholars have expressed unease at the power of a group they do not control. Because Shiite parties have also insisted that the councils not be allowed to exist as a "third force" alongside the army and police, the government was obliged to call for their dissolution, with the promise to find jobs for the fighters coming only as an afterthought.

Ironically, Shiite fears of the threat posed by an armed and largely Sunni militia are more likely to be realized by the dissolution of the Awakening Councils than their incorporation into the army or police. This is especially true if the government does not make good on its promise to pay the men's salaries until work is found. Eighty thousand unemployed militiamen with nothing to hope for but vague promises of being retrained and matched with suitable jobs would be easy prey for Al-Qaeda paymasters on the prowl for recruits. When one recalls that many of the members of the Awakening Councils were originally insurgents and even Al-Qaeda operatives, it becomes clear that the slightest misstep by the Iraqi government could have disastrous consequences.

Today, members of the councils face hostility from Shiite parties as well as from the fief-conscious Sunni establishment. Worse, they are the target of attacks by Al-Qaeda, which continues to punish them for their about-face (although recent news reports suggest that Al-Qaeda may have decided to curb these attacks, perhaps in anticipation of another future reversal by the fighters). Some Awakening Council combatants, fearing that the dissolution of their organization will leave them vulnerable to mistreatment by the Shiite-dominated army or to retribution by vengeful Al-Qaeda cells, have deserted. Most are fearful and wary of the future.

The fate of the 100,000 members of the Awakening Councils, which proved vital in turning the tide against Al-Qaeda, is at the center of Iraq's quest for peace and security. If the Iraqi government reneges on its promise to pay members' salaries and find them employment, it will plunge Iraq into a painful state of dŽjˆ vu. In 2003, Paul Bremer, the US civilian administrator of Iraq, disbanded the Iraqi Army without securing employment for its hundreds of thousands of soldiers and officers. Many of these men joined the insurgency, with horrific consequences for Iraq. Today, Baghdad must ensure it does not make the same mistake.

Rayyan al-Shawaf is a freelance writer and reviewer based in Beirut. He wrote this commentary for THE DAILY STAR.

-- October 8, 2008 12:23 PM


Sara wrote:

CNN: Obama’s lying about William Ayers
October 7, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

You’ll want to double-check the logo at the bottom left corner during this report. It really is CNN and Anderson Cooper fact-checking Barack Obama’s claims to have barely known William Ayers — and calling it dishonest. Stanley Kurtz even gets to make an appearance on a network other than Fox for this report (via Dirty Harry’s Place):

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ

Drew Griffin runs down most of the salient points raised by people like Kurtz, David Freddoso, Jerome Corsi, and others. Obama’s admission in a debate that he briefly served on “a board” with Ayers with little contact gets shot down. CNN followed up on Kurtz’ work with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and debunks that notion. They also — amazingly — report on the nature of the grants made by the CAC while Obama ran it to Ayers’ favored schools with radical agendas.

Griffin also tells a somewhat nonplussed Cooper that Obama has lied about his “coming out party” at the home of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn in 1995. Obama has said that Alice Palmer arranged the fundraiser and the venue, but Griffin spoke to two people who attended the event, who claim Obama lied. Palmer had nothing to do with that event outside of being invited to it. Obama and Ayers planned the event themselves.

Obama has lied repeatedly about his relationship with the unrepentant domestic terrorist.

He spent years working for Ayers, promoting Ayers’ causes.

Even CNN won’t buy the Obama line any longer.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/cnn-obamas-lying-about-william-ayers/

-- October 8, 2008 2:52 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq project steams ahead in record time
by Matt Scotland

Wednesday, 08 October 2008

Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum have announced the start-up of natural gas production, processing and transportation by pipeline from their joint project in Kurdistan, Iraq.

The 180 km pipeline was installed in a record 15 months despite undulating terrain and the threat of landmines.

The two UAE firms are investing US$650 million under a strategic alliance and service contracts signed with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) in April 2007, making it the largest private-sector investment in Iraq today and the largest private-sector oil and gas project in Iraq in several decades.

“We are very proud of this historical milestone, as the first companies from the Middle East to invest in Iraq’s oil and gas sector. We wish to thank the leadership and cooperation shown by the KRG, and also all of our staff, our contractors, and local officials for their support in this remarkable joint effort,” said Ahmed Al-Arbeed, upstream executive director, Dana Gas.

In addition seismic surveys and production wells were carried out, and brand new gas processing facilities were installed. The initial primary phase gas production is at 75 million cubic feet per day, and will rise in stages to 300 million cubic feet per day within the first half of 2009, as the power plants become fully operational. Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum will be adding further processing capacity to handle the additional gas quantities.

“This is the first project of its kind in Iraq, and it will provide important economic and social benefits for the Kurdistan region and all of Iraq”, added Mr. Majid Jafar, Executive Director Crescent Petroleum. “We aim to now build on these achievements in the Kurdistan Region and across Iraq, with our strategic focus on maximizing economic benefit and addressing local needs.”
(www.arabianbusiness.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 8, 2008 3:22 PM


Sara wrote:

Within ONE percent in this poll..

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The Early Line: Diageo/Hotline Tracking Poll
October 08, 2008

Obama/Biden 45%
McCain/Palin 44%
Undec 9%

- Obama and McCain are now tied 44-44% among men. Today's Diageo/Hotline poll is the first in which Obama has not led men since he trailed them 46-45% in the survey completed 9/26.

- The candidates remained tied on economic issues. 42% believe Obama would do the best job handling the U.S. economy, and 42% say McCain. 62% meanwhile believe the economy is the most important issue facing the U.S.

- McCain, however, now has his largest lead ever on energy issues. 46% favor the GOP nominee on managing U.S. energy policies, and 40% favor Obama. One week ago, in the survey completed 9/30, Obama led 46-40% on energy.

Today's Diageo/Hotline tracking poll, conducted 10/5-7 by FD, surveyed 904 LVs and has a margin of error of +/- 3.3%. Party ID Breakdown for the sample is 41%D, 36%R, 18%I.

(MATTHEW GOTTLIEB)

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/the_early_line_3.html

-- October 8, 2008 3:40 PM


Sara wrote:

And here, Zogby.. within two:

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Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll:
Obama 47%, McCain 45%
Released: October 08, 2008

The telephone tracking poll shows neither candidate with a clear advantage in the national horserace

UTICA, New York - The race for President of the United States remains far too close to call between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain as both candidates head toward the finish line, a recent Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone polls shows.

The survey, including a three-day sample of 1,220 likely voters collected over the previous three days - approximately 400 per day from Oct. 5-7, 2008 - shows that Obama holds a slight advantage amounting to 1.9 percentage points over McCain. This represents a bit of a recovery by McCain, who had been sliding in some polls before his running mate, Sarah Palin, put in a strong performance in her one and only debate performance last Thursday.

Three Day Tracking Poll.....10-7..........10-6

Obama.............................47.1%.......47.7

McCain............................45.2%.......45.3%

Others/Not sure.................7.7%.........7.0%

The Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll, was conducted before Tuesday's Obama-McCain debate. It was performed by live telephone operators in Zogby's in-house call center in Upstate New York, included a total of 1,220 likely voters nationwide, and carries a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1575

-- October 8, 2008 3:52 PM


Sara wrote:

Yes, this one could indeed be DIRECTLY Dinar related.
If Obama were (God forbid) to be allowed to dictate policy for Iraq..
would genocide (his previous position) be ALLOWED upon Iraqis..
OR (his new position) not allowed?
Care to flip a coin?
About this Obama genocide flip.. remember that,
QUOTE:

Obama seemed to have little concern last year to the genocide that would have resulted from a precipitous pre-surge withdrawal from Iraq...

Care to trust the Iraqi lives to this man's "impeccable" moral weather vane, America?
I agree with Ed Morrissey:

What kind of candidate is it whose moral response to genocide - genocide - can reverse itself 180 degrees in a matter of months? Is that the kind of candidate who ought to be the leader of the free world?

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Obama’s 180 on genocide
October 8, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Jeff Jacoby detected a mighty spin coming from Barack Obama’s attempt to define his doctrine on interventionism in last night’s debate. In Nashville, Obama said that the American military must stand ready to stop genocide whenever and wherever it occurs. However, Obama seemed to have little concern last year to the genocide that would have resulted from a precipitous pre-surge withdrawal from Iraq:
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Though most of the debate dealt with domestic issues, it was a foreign-policy question that sent me flying to my files. Moderator Tom Brokaw asked the candidates what their “doctrine” would be “in situations where there’s a humanitarian crisis, but it does not affect our national security,” such as “the Congo, where 4.5 million people have died since 1998,” or Rwanda or Somalia.

In such cases, answered Obama, “we have moral issues at stake.” Of course the United States must act to stop genocide, Obama said. “When genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening . . . and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.”

But that wasn’t how Obama sounded last year, when he was competing for the Democratic nomination and was unbending in his demand for an American retreat from Iraq. Back then, he dismissed fears that a withdrawal would unleash a massive Iraqi bloodbath as a good enough reason to keep US forces there. The AP reported on July 20, 2007 (my italics).. “Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep US forces there.

What kind of candidate is it whose moral response to genocide - genocide - can reverse itself 180 degrees in a matter of months? Is that the kind of candidate who ought to be the leader of the free world?

==end quote==

Obama’s answer also ignored the multiple genocides of the Saddam Hussein regime. We knew well before our entry into Iraq that Saddam had conducted genocides against the Kurds. He used the chemical weapons that people now claim he didn’t have at Halabja, for which he and his henchmen deservedly received the death penalty (although Saddam had already been executed by then). He also conducted a genocidal campaign against the Marsh Arabs, draining their wetlands and leaving them to die for their opposition to his regime. Saddam persecuted the Shi’ites after an uprising in 1991, one that continued in defiance of the no-fly zones — the same tactic Obama recommended as a stop against genocide in Sudan and elsewhere.

Now Obama says that American intervention in Iraq was the wrong move, but in an Obama Doctrine, that would have been an acceptable response. Saddam was a genocidal tyrant, and no one else in the region was going to act to stop him. The only difference here is the political juice Obama gets for opposing the Iraq war.

And, as Jacoby points out, Obama can’t even be consistent. He decries genocide and pledges American intervention to stop it, but earlier said that potential genocide wouldn’t be enough reason to keep American troops in place. Huh? Either Obama is confused, or he only cares about genocides when it doesn’t involve Iraqis.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/08/obamas-180-on-genocide/

-- October 8, 2008 4:11 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura and board.. can you believe this?

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DC court: Let’s release terrorists into the US
October 7, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

A federal judge has ordered the release of 17 Chinese Uighers detained at Guantanamo Bay, and specifically into the US. Judge Ricardo Urbina demanded that the federal government produce them in his courtroom by Friday, and refused to stay his order for an appeal. He also warned immigration officials not to do their jobs by detaining these suspected terrorists:
QUOTE:

A federal judge today ordered that 17 Chinese Muslims held at the Guantanamo Bay military prison be released into the United States by Friday, agreeing with the detainees’ attorneys that the Constitution bars holding the men indefinitely without cause. …

Justice Department lawyer John O’Quinn asked Urbina to stay the order for a week, giving the government time to evaluate its options and file an appeal. Urbina rejected that request and ordered the Uighurs to appear in his courtroom for a hearing on Friday. He said he would then release them into the custody of 17 Uighur families living in the Washington area.

O’Quinn said the legal ramifications from the order are complex and that he wants time to consult with officials from the Department of Homeland Security. Under existing U.S. law, immigration authorities may be forced to take the Uighurs into custody shortly after they arrive in the United States, O’Quinn said. The Justice Department alleges they have ties to a group that has been designated a terrorist organization by the government.

Urbina chastised O’Quinn for suggesting that the government might take the Uighurs into custody for a second time.

===end quote===

The seventeen men were captured in Pakistan after fleeing Afghanistan during the 2001-2 campaign to topple the Taliban and fight al-Qaeda. The judge said that the government had unreliable evidence to show them as a threat to the United States. If living in terrorist camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan doesn’t provide prima facie evidence of just that kind of threat, it’s difficult to know what Urbina needs.

Now, unless the 4th District overrules Urbina in the next 72 hours, we will knowingly transport 17 Uighers who lived in terrorist training camps to our nation’s capital, and release them on their own recognizance. Why? Because we can’t send them to China, who might mistreat them. Every other country in the world has more sense than to agree to take these Uigher separatists, who like many of their compatriots, have allied themselves with al-Qaeda. Every other country, that is, except the US, or at least one of its judges.

This is what we can expect when the judiciary decides to usurp the role of the executive branch in waging war. Urbina ruled that the detention of the Uighers violates the Constitution with their indefinite detention, but that doesn’t apply to unlawful combatants of any war, and never has. We would be within our rights to hold prisoners of war until an end to hostilities, and Urbina has now given these terrorists a better deal than POWs get.

To paraphrase a great line from the late Paul Newman in The Verdict: I wouldn’t mind Urbina waging the war if he wasn’t so determined to lose it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/dc-court-lets-release-terrorists-into-the-us/

-- October 8, 2008 4:23 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Agreement between the political blocs to return to the draft in February 2007 of the Code of oil and gas

بغداد-التآخي BAGHDAD - Sisterhood
كشف النائب كمال الساعدي عن الائتلاف العراقي الموحد عن وجود اتفاق بين الكتل السياسية على العودة الى مسودة شهر شباط عام 2007 لقانون النفط والغاز.وقال الساعدي للوكالة الوطنية العراقية للانباء امس:"ان هذه المسودة ستعرض قريبا جدا على مجلس النواب وستتم مناقشتها.واضاف الساعدي:"ان هذه المسودة هي التي قدمها مجلس الوزراء قبل ان يعدل مجلس شورى الدولة بعض فقراتها.يذكر ان لجنة النفط والغاز في مجلس النواب بينت وجود اربع نسخ من قانون النفط والغاز.وكان مجلس شورى الدولة قام بتعديل 13 فقرة من هذه المسودة مما اثار رفض بعض القوى السياسية عليها. MP Kamal Al from the United Iraqi Alliance on an agreement between the political blocs to return to the draft in February 2007 for oil and gas law. Saadi told the Iraqi National Agency reported yesterday: "This draft will be submitted very soon in the House of Representatives will be discussed. Saadi said: "This draft is submitted by the Council of Ministers before the State Consultative Council to amend some of its paragraphs. The Commission for oil and gas in the House of Representatives showed the presence of four copies of the Code of oil and gas. The State Consultative Council to amend the paragraph 13 of the draft, prompting the refusal of some By political forces.
(www.translate.google.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 9:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq ready to replace US troops in Baghdad
PUKmedia 09-10-2008 09:53:28
AFP

Iraq said on Wednesday it was ready to take over security responsibilities from US security forces in Baghdad as both countries say they are nearing a deal on a contested military pact.

Interior ministry spokesman Major General Abdel Karim Khalaf said Iraqi police are capable of handling security duties across the capital, a responsibility now held by US troops.

"We have the ability to take over the internal security responsibility in Baghdad if American forces pull out of the city," he said in a statement. "The interior ministry is able to take responsibility for protecting Baghdad."

His remarks came a day after Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Washington and Baghdad are now "very close" to an agreement on the presence of American troops in the country beyond this year.

"There have been new ideas and new language that could be acceptable, but no final decision has been made. This needs some bold political decisions now," Zebari said on Tuesday.

Zebari was speaking at a press conference with visiting US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte shortly after two bombs went off just outside the Green Zone, leaving at least seven people, including an Iraqi soldier, injured.

At a press conference in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad commander General Jeffery Hammond, who commands 28,700 US-led foreign troops said the improvement in security in the city of six million was dramatic but dangers remained.

"Security has improved, let there be no doubt," said Hammond, noting that Baghdad is now averaging four attacks a day, which according to US statistics was 89 percent less than in 2006 and 83 percent lower than in 2007.

"We have been successful in creating the conditions for sustainable security for the eventual transfer to Iraq security forces but let there be no doubt that challenges remain."

The interior ministry said there had been an increase in the number of car bombs and roadside blasts in Baghdad since the start of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan but said this did not mean a breakdown of security.

"An increase in car bomb attacks and IED (improvised explosive device) attacks, particularly since Ramadan (last month) does not mean that security forces failed," the statement said.

Khalaf said Iraqi security services lacked explosive detectors to prevent car bombs but otherwise had been effective in reducing the overall level of violence in the country, which is said to be at a four-year low.

The ministry "is seeking (financial help from) some provincial councils to import such devices and technologies to cover all areas of Baghdad and other provinces," he said.

The US military has handed over security responsibility in 11 of the 18 provinces in Iraq since June 2006. The process started with the Shiite southern province of Muthanna, which borders Saudi Arabia.

Much of Iraq's improved security has been credited to the recruitment of Sunni tribesmen and former rebels by the US military to fight against al-Qaeda.

Some 54,000 are deployed in Baghdad out of a force of 100,000 across the country.

Hammond highlighted the importance of the Iraqi government ensuring that the Sons of Iraq fighters, as the Americans refer to them, are properly integrated into the mainstream security forces in the city.

Only 3,400 of the fighters have been integrated into the national police force in Baghdad while another 7,000 are currently awaiting approval from the interior ministry, he said.

"The Iraqi government has committed to accepting responsibility for the Sons of Iraq. We are going to be there to assist the transfer. I'm confident this is going to go well," he said.

"We will not abandon the Sons of Iraq."
(www.pukmedia.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 9:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Nijeifi: Minorities’ case to be settled today 09/10/2008 13:41:00

Baghdad (NINA) –MP Usama al-Nijeifi of the National Iraqi Slate INS has stated that the issue of minorities' representation in the provincial election will be settled today, Thursday after the meeting that is being held by the parliament chairmanship.
(www.ninanews.com)

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-- October 9, 2008 9:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Arab League delegate in Baghdad delivers credentials

Politics 10/9/2008 1:42:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Oct 9 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari received on Wednesday credentials of the newly-appointed chief of the Arab League mission in the country, Hani Khalaf.
The foreign ministry said in a statement that Zebari expressed satisfaction at the league's appointment of a chief representative in the Iraqi capital, and expressed readiness to furnish him with needed assistance.
Khalaf for his part said that the league would offer "effective aid" to the Iraqi governemnt to help in boosting national conciliation. (end) ah.rk KUNA 091342 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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-- October 9, 2008 9:39 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Saudi expected to make USD 138 billion surplus

Economics 10/9/2008 12:01:00 PM



RIYADH, Oct 9 (KUNA) -- Saudi Arabia is expected to make an extraordinary large surplus of USD 138 billion in its current account, according to an economic report released on Thursday.
The report, issued by the Saudi National Commercial Bank (NCB), said that the surplus in 2007 equaled USD 95 billion.
The reason for this year's expected surplus is the expected increase in income of oil export by 26 percent to a record price of about USD 259 billion, compared with USD 233 billion in 2007, it added.
It noted that it is expected that the average growth of Saudi non-oil exports would rise eight percent to USD 30 billion and that imports would increase 11 percent and reach USD 92 billion, registering the highest level in years.
The report said that external capitals grew 30 percent to USD 312 billion in 2007, then increased to USD 365 billion last May.
The increase of oil income is also expected to have a positive effect on the surplus of the Saudi budget which might equal USD 565.
According to the report, Saudi Arabia might exceed the set budget for expenses by 13 to 15 percent.
Actual expenditure is expected to equal 507 billion Saudi riyals (SAR), while the set budget is only SAR 400 billion.
It said that the gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to grow by 1.5 percent this year as a result to the increase of incomes of the oil sector.
Meanwhile, incomes of the non-oil sector are expected to hike by4.8 percent.
One Saudi riyal equals about USD 0.266. (end) ad.ris KUNA 091201 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Negroponte calls security deal on Iraq 'close'
By Erica Goode

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Baghdad, 09 October 2008 (International Herald Tribune)
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Winding up a visit to Iraq that has taken him to six provinces, Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte said on Tuesday that American and Iraqi negotiators were "close" to resolving the issues that have stood in the way of a security agreement governing the continued presence of American troops in the country.

Negroponte was joined by Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, at a news conference held in the fortified Green Zone.

Negroponte said that his trip has included "fruitful discussions" on a variety of political and economic issues, including the security agreement. But he declined to discuss what sticking points, if any, remained in negotiating the accord, saying that when details were revealed, "what we have is people dissecting disagreements without fully understanding the background."

Zebari said that "new formulations and new language" had allowed progress on the legal status of American troops in Iraq. The question of whether, and under what conditions, American soldiers and military contractors who commit crimes should be subject to Iraqi laws has been a central obstacle throughout the talks.

"I think we are very close," Zebari said, but he added that "no final decision has been made."

In September, Iraqi and American officials said that the immunity issue was threatening to derail the negotiations. The United States has argued for the same legal protections that apply in other countries where American troops are based. The Iraqi government has been adamant that any crime committed outside of a military operation should be subject to prosecution in the Iraqi courts.

In negotiating the agreement, the United States has agreed to withdraw combat troops from Iraqi cities by next June and from the rest of Iraq by the end of 2011, assuming that conditions in the country remain stable.

Also on Tuesday, the panel led by President Jalal Talabani approved the provincial elections law passed by Parliament late last month. The panel's action now clears the way for elections, which are seen by many American and Iraqi officials as critical to achieving reconciliation among Iraq's political and religious factions, to take place by Jan. 31, the date specified in the legislation.

Although the presidential panel approved the election law, it also recommended that Parliament vote separately on an article of the bill dealing with political representation for Christians and other minorities.

The article, which provided 15 council seats around the country for minorities, was written into an earlier version of the law but was dropped before the legislation was passed by Parliament.

Eman al-Assadi, a member of Parliament's legal committee, said that the question of minority representation would be taken up by lawmakers on Wednesday. The members, she said, would consider several possible solutions, including voting on the article separately and forming a committee to draft a new law addressing the issue.

The removal of the article from the law stirred protest by Christians and other groups.

Negroponte, who during his stay in Iraq visited Kirkuk — the oil-rich northern city at the center of a dispute among Arabs, Kurds, Turkmens, Christians and other groups — called the passage of the provincial elections law "noteworthy" but also mentioned the issue of minorities.

"I heard often while traveling and in my meetings with the government of Iraq that it was of paramount importance to resolve the call for minority representation during the electoral process," he said.

In Mosul on Tuesday, an American soldier died of wounds sustained after a firefight at a home where a suspected insurgent was believed to be hiding, the American military said. When gunfire erupted from the house, an airstrike was conducted, the military said, adding that an Iraqi police officer and a member of the insurgency were also killed.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Iraq Government Warns about Fake Financial Companies

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09 October 2008 (American Contractor)
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The Iraq Central Bank along with the Iraqi government is warning people about these fake financial companies that have been operating for quite some time in Iraq.

Fake ‘Financial Investment’ Companies Invade Southern Iraq, And The Government Warns About Them

Al Hajj Ali Hassan will spend the rest of his life with a ‘half disabled body’. There are people who owe him more than a half a billion Iraqi Dinars $410,000. This debt is not because he is a company owner or a financial investor; rather, it is because one of his sons ‘fell into a trap’ was tricked. This trap involved a huge (bad/fake) investment he made that had promised huge returns.

According to the Interior Ministry, a huge amount of money, so huge that no one can imagine, is being smuggled from Iraq thru such ‘false’ investments and is being smuggled out of the country.

Meanwhile, the Iraqi Central Bank has warned that the potential destruction of the Iraqi economy could be the final outcome of such practices.

One of Al Hajj’s sons told Asharq Al Awsat Newspaper that one of his brothers began to trade with a ‘financial investment’ company… and at first he actually received huge benefits. So, he was able to buy a large home and a recently made late model car. This success encouraged him to mortgage everything he owned, and to take the money to a person, in ‘the projects’ area of Babil Province, who claimed that he is a ‘financial investor’.

This brother of the duped investor added, “My brother is not the only one to fall into this trap. There are thousands of other people …from various areas and Provinces in Iraq… that gave their money to this person. This individual currently owes the ‘investors’/victims a total more than 450 billion Iraqi Dinars approx. $370 million.”

He clarified, “For a year, the dealings with this investment maker were normal successful…Then, the number of people demanding that he pay them their returns grew too large, and he could not pay them back…and now he is somewhere outside Iraq. The problem is: there is nothing to use as evidence ‘against’ him. There are no written contracts. All that happened was: he would take money from any person who wanted to ‘invest’…and then he’d write the person’s name in his own small notebook…And, then, he’d say:
• ‘Listen, I will take your money and invest it…And, you will receive ‘investment returns’ of 200% to 300% from me every six months.’
• ‘Now, if something should happen, like if I die, then you can not come after my family. I am the only one responsible’ for these investments/promises.”

Al Hajj’s son added, “The rights of the investors are ‘dropped’ nonexistent; because, they gave him their money willingly ‘without being forced’. My brother also convinced a lot of people to join him in this investment… but they the new investors convinced him, the brother to guarantee their investments…and he did! Now, we our family have to pay them…Even though their money went to a different person. I admit that my brother is guilty of making a mistake being tricked. Because of these problems my father has suffered a ‘mental disease’ a stroke, and now his body is 50% disabled.”

Nihad Hajwal, the Director of the Rafidain Bank branch in Suwayra, said, “We can not call these ‘fake entities’ companies. The term and objective of a ‘company’ requires that there be some rules regulations. I believe these ‘rules’ are very strong in Iraq. However, some ‘bad guys’ and ‘illegal activities conducted by small, private banks’ have resulted in huge ‘mistakes’ which have begun to impact Iraq’s economic situation.”

Hajwal told this newspaper, “Everybody knows that the establishment creation of a ‘company’ requires:
• Security and banking agreements,
• Sponsorship, and
• Guaranteed accounts collateral, underwriting, insurance/bonding.
- These accounts should be opened in a well known and established bank.
- We provide them the new company with a receipt/certificate which proves that they have such an account.
- And, only then, does the paperwork to establish create the company begin to move forward.”

He added, “What has happened is: some individuals through the use of paying ‘bribes’ to small ‘private banks’ obtained fake ‘guarantees’ certificates of deposit/letters of credit…And then, using these fake documents the ‘company’ was able to become officially ‘registered’ and start carrying out its ‘illegal operations’ criminal schemes as a ‘legally registered company’.”

Hajwal continued, “There is another type of ‘companies’ which are not really ‘companies’. All that happens in this case is: there is a person who claims to be a ‘financial investor’ and he ‘pays it back in a circle/cycle’ like a pyramid or ‘Ponzi’ scheme, thus tricking more investors to give him money.”

He pointed out: the value of these fake investment fund monies has now reached billions of dollars. He added, “This will destroy the national economy.”

He added, “We the ‘governmental banks’ warned against these types of investments. However, the investors did not prefer to deal with us because of our lower rates of return, and the usual/ordinary routine. Recently, we have improved our dealings/process, and have raised the benefits returns which we provide. This is good for us and will increase the number of people who choose to deal invest/save with us.”

Regarding the appearance of these types of fake/bad investment ‘companies’ in Iraq, he Hajwal said, “There are many reasons, such as:
• the weak organization of Iraq’s banking sector,
• and branches of banks are few and hard to find…
…in Iraq, there is only one bank per every 54,000 people. In some other Arab countries, there is one bank per every 10,000 people. While in Germany, there are six banks per every 10,000 people.”

The Media and Public Relations Director for Iraq’s MOI, BG Allaa Al Taie, said: these ‘companies’ may be part of the projects to finance/fund terrorism in Iraq. He said, “Terrorist groups are trying to use every tool/method with which they can help carryout their plans to target a specific target or government. They use many methods including: ‘money laundering’ and corruption financial crimes. In carrying out their terrorist goals They use many procedures, such as: recruiting suicide bombers. Citizens are worried by the recent trend use of ‘silenced’ weapons in the assassinations of well known individuals. These groups are trying to use as much as they can to ‘save’ build up/gather a lot of money which they can use to carryout their operations.”

The spokesman for Iraq’s Supreme Judicial Council, Judge Abd Al Sattar Birqidar, confirmed: there is no item in the law which ‘blames’ a victim for becoming a victim of fraud. The law is created to protect the citizens and their money property. Iraqi Law Article # 456 identifies the ‘bad guys’ who defraud the citizens as ‘criminals’ even if the people ‘willingly’ invested their money with him the ‘bad guy’/fraud.

After the phenomenal growth of investments in Iraq’s southern Provinces which have a Shiite-majority, the Shiite religious authorities warned against dealing with these types of ‘companies’.

An Islamic Fadhila Party leader, Ghazi Samaraie, said, “These ‘companies’ are working secretly deviously and suspiciously. They transfer the money they take in outside of Iraq…which has a negative impact on Iraq’s local economy. There a growing number of companies in Iraq’s Provinces; companies such as: ‘Gold Quest, V-Max, Monaco, and Guam Com’. In Basrah Province, the number of citizens dealing with these companies is 8,000.”
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 9:46 AM


Tsalagi wrote:


A little humor regarding our political situation.......
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Irish view on US politics

We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you people are even bothering to hold an
election in the United States.

On one side, you had a pants wearing female lawyer, married to another lawyer who
can't seem to keep his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against
a lawyer, who goes to the wrong church, who is married to yet another lawyer, who
doesn't even like the country her husband wants to run!

Now...On the other side, you have a nice old war hero whose name starts with the
appropriate 'Mc' terminology, married to a good looking younger woman who
owns a beer distributorship !!

What in God's name are ya lads thinkin' !

-- October 9, 2008 11:45 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Tsalagi,

Very funny.

Also, who would have figured, that after Bush took out Hussein, that another Hussein had a shot of moving into the White House? I didn't see that coming.

Also, what's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?

One's a scum sucking bottom feeder, and the other's a fish.

-- October 9, 2008 2:03 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Don't know if you all saw this or not.
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Draft Oil and Gas Law to be submitted to Parliament



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09 October 2008
Signs are that some agreements have been made, but tensions remain.

After bitter disagreements between Baghdad and Erbil, a draft of the national Oil and Gas Law is set to be sent to the Iraqi Council of Representatives for approval.

A member of the Parliament and the Parliament Oil and Gas Committee announced that a draft law that both the Kurdistan Regional Government and the central government agreed upon will be submitted to Parliament for discussion and final approval.

Bayazid Hassan, a Kurdish MP on the Kurdistan Alliance List, told a local Kurdish news agency that the Iraqi Minister of Oil, Hussein al-Shahristani, has promised to send a copy of the draft to Parliament.

The draft law has been awaiting approval for a long time after having passed through stages of tough discussions and arguments between the KRG and Baghdad. After the first draft of the law was created, and both Kurds and Maliki's government agreed to it and gave the green light for it to be sent to Parliament, the law was sent to another committee for linguistic proofreading, where, as Kurds claimed, changes other than just linguistic changes were made. As Kurdish officials in Baghdad argued, the committee has changed the basics of the law in a way that reduced the power of the regions in controlling the oil and gas revenues and given some of those powers to the central government.

Therefore, the Kurdish leadership, represented by the Kurdistan Alliance List in Iraqi Parliament, vowed to block approval of the law.

Tensions between the Iraqi Oil Ministry, which strongly recommended the law, and the KRG were further tightened by the approval of the Kurdistan Regional Oil and Gas Law by the Regional Parliament and subsequent oil contracts signed by the KRG, in compliance with the law, with international oil and gas companies.

Minister al-Shahristani vowed to oppose the KRG and described the contracts as illegal. He also warned the foreign oil companies about their cooperation with the KRG and threatened to blacklist them in his ministry's list of companies for oil tenders. For instance, the Oil Ministry halted oil export to an Austrian oil company that had a contract with KRG.

The KRG, on the other hand, claimed that both its Oil and Gas Law and the production-sharing contracts with foreign oil companies were legal and in full compliance with the Iraqi Permanent Constitution, which was approved by the majority of Iraqis in a referendum in 2005.

Efforts were made to devise a solution to the problem. KRG delegates headed by Regional Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani visited Baghdad several times and met with the Iraqi Prime Minister and other officials from his government and the Oil Ministry to find a solution. Still, none of the parties were ready to fully compromise on their demands and expectations.

Although this announcement by MP Hassan hints at some agreements between the two parties and thus the originally approved draft is to be sent to Parliament, the points of disagreement between them have not yet been resolved and still need to be addressed.

According to Hassan, the problems are over those oil deals that the KRG signed with foreign companies.

"Undoubtedly, those issues are to be solved later either by the Federal Court of Iraq or the national Oil and Gas Law will find a solution for the issue after its approval," said Hassan.
Regarding the February agreement between the KRG and Baghdad about the draft law, Hassan said that according to the agreement both the central and regional governments should agree on distributing the oil wells. Besides, he added, Article 110 of the Constitution has identified the shared oil wells between Erbil and Baghdad as well as those oil wells from which the KRG is authorized to extract oil, but all the oil revenues from all over Iraq should be returned to the country's Treasury, from where they should be shared among Iraq's regions and provinces.

It is also mentioned that a percentage of the revenues are to be shared with the areas where the oil wells are as part of their compensation for the pollution as a result of the wells.

However, experts see a national oil law as vital and urgent for the country as international oil companies are worried about doing business in the country without an appropriate legal system that organizes the oil sector in Iraq.
(www.zawya.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 9, 2008 5:10 PM


Sara wrote:

Pollster: Don’t believe the Dem hype
By Joe Dwinell & Jessica Fargen
Wednesday, October 8, 2008

The presidential race is still too close to call and could come down to the very last weekend before voters decide if they like or distrust Barack Obama, a national pollster predicts.

“I don’t think Obama has closed the deal yet,” pollster John Zogby told the Herald yesterday.

Zogby’s latest poll, released yesterday in conjunction with C-Span and Reuters, shows Obama and John McCain in a statistical dead heat, with the Illinois Democrat up 48-45 percent.

Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

“The Sunday before the election the dam burst,” Zogby said of the 1980 tilt. “That’s when voters determined they were comfortable with Reagan.”

Now voters are wrestling with two senators with opposite resumes - Obama, at 47, the unknown, and the established 72-year-old McCain.

Zogby said he’s still hearing from moderates and non-partisan voters - what he calls “the big middle” - who are still shopping for a candidate.

“It still can break one way or the other,” Zogby says.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1124117&srvc=2008campaign&position=8

-- October 9, 2008 8:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Some sanity still resides in the 4th Circuit... for a little while.

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4th Circuit stops Uighers from entering US
October 9, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Two days ago, Judge Ricardo Urbina demanded that the Bush administration produce seventeen Chinese Uighers captured in terrorist training camps seven years in his courtroom on Friday, announcing his intention to release them in Washington DC. Urbina then refused to offer a stay for the purposes of an appeal and warned the Immigration and Customs Enforcement bureau not to enforce immigration law by blocking suspected terrorists from entering the country.

Fortunately, the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals issued an emergency injunction blocking Urbina’s decision to import terrorits into the nation’s capital:
QUOTE:

A group of Chinese Muslims set to be freed into the U.S. this week from Guantanamo Bay found their freedom stymied yet again after a simple government plea: What’s a couple more weeks or so in jail after nearly seven years?

That in essence was the Bush administration’s argument to a federal appeals court in a 19-page emergency request that maintained there would be only “minimal harms” if the detainees were to stay at Guantanamo a while longer.

Late Wednesday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit agreed, halting the 17 men’s release for at least another week to give the government more time to make arguments in the case.

The appeals court set a deadline of next Thursday for additional filings, when it will be left up to the judges to decide how quickly to act — and in whose favor.

===end quote===

Let’s recap the situation. Our armed forces capture seventeen Uighers in terrorist training camps far from home in Afghanistan. They have received training in al-Qaeda tactics — exactly the kind of people we want to keep out of our country while AQ wages war on the West. We’d like to get them out of Gitmo after having derived what intelligence we can from them, but no one seems terribly interested in taking al-Qaeda terrorists into their country, either. The Chinese want them, but we’re afraid the terrorists will be mistreated by Beijing, which is suppressing a Uigher insurgency at the moment.

What solution does our brilliant judiciary reach? Let them live in the nation’s capital, the very place al-Qaeda trains its recruits to destroy! What a great idea!

The 4th Circuit has given the Bush administration another week to make its arguments to the entire 19-judge panel. Hopefully, the majority of them show a little more sense than Urbina did, but I’m not entirely optimistic. The appellate courts have shown a desire to run this war as a collective commander-in-chief rather than to follow the laws passed by Congress in dealing with unlawful combatants, who are supposed to have less protection than POWs, not more.

Send them back to the Chinese. They want these detainees returned to them. Sign a compact that promises no torture, declare it sufficient, and put them on a plane to Beijing. Problem solved.

Comments:

1) The Chinese want them, but we’re afraid the terrorists will be mistreated by Beijing..

Let them be mistreated! Let the Chinese government “do the jobs that Americans don’t want to do.” - rmgraha

2) How soon can ACORN sign these guys up to vote for Obama?

“Vote Obama or die”, takes on a literal meaning. - NoDonkey

3) Ridiculous. So, a judge is trying to order the government to let some terrorists become illegal immigrants? Brilliant. - CP

4) Funny, I haven’t heard anything about this on Yahoo News. Here are all the headline stories:

(long list)

Nope, nothing about terrorists being released into the US. I’m sure it has nothing to do with not wanting to scare voters a month before the presidential election. - rbj

5) Ah hell, let them come. Maybe after they kill a few hundred people, somebody in this sick society will muster up the balls to run these left wing, liberal judges out of office. - rplat

5) Urbina was a Bill Clinton appointee. Bill Clinton was (supposedly) a moderate. Obama is no Bill Clinton.

His appointments will be much worse than Urbina. CHANGE (for the worse). - Abby Adams

6) At least there’s a respite in the insanity that comes out of liberal courts. This is exactly the situation that was predicted by conservatives after Boumedianne, but pooh poohed by libtard members of various blogs. Well the chickens of Boumedienne have come home to roost. I believe that we should immediately give section 8 housing to those 17 ‘families’ of Uighers already in the Nation’s Capital, because obviously they need more space. Here’s an idea, I’ve already suggested half in jest, but now appears more useful: Give them Section 8 to House them in the Supreme Court Building in Wash. DC and allow the 17 families to receive such monies, and as a result, the Justices can observe first hand their harmlessness.

I cannot believe the madness of Justice Kennedy and of this District Court Judge. Insane in the Membrane is an understatement. - eaglewingz08

7) Thanks to the American judiciary, terrorists are being given their ‘right’ to continue murdering Americans while the Americans are given the ‘right’ to die at their hands.

With little concern about what the terrorist could do if the courts set them free on America’s streets, the courts convoluted way of thinking believes that justice has been served because the United States has no right to incarcerate terrorist murderers.

Now, the court can pat themselves on the back for a job well done, and tell the American people “your safety is of no concern to us, and you are on your own!” - pocomoco

8) This is just the application of liberal jurisprudence to an international problem. Recall how many times liberal judges like Urbina release violent criminals into the population who then go on to rape and murder innocent citizens. Urbina now wants to release unlawful combatants into the population where perhaps they will conduct a suicide attack against Washingtonians. Wouldn’t it be ironic if Urbina gets his way and a member of his family is killed in a terrorist attack perpetrated by one of these innocent terrorists. - jerryofva

9) Huh…

It wasn’t so long ago that terrorist groups hijacked planes and conducted other similar acts in order to demand that their brethren were freed… to their own country of origin.

Fast forward to present day and our own judges feel compelled to demand the same thing of the President, except they are now supposed to reside without documentation, skill or justification in the US.

And people also want to put a friend to terrorists, felons and support of radical groups that have been under investigation and indicted for multiple counts fraud in the White House.

Yup… I have officially seen it all now. Someone please shoot me. - Damiano

10) This is probably a sign that he should be given a job in mainstream media. - paul006

11) Come on now… thats just plain mean… - Romeo13

12) Oh, by the way, friend of the terrorists, Barack Obama, may be in a position to replace up to five judges on the Supreme Court. Think about and make sure your undecided or on the fence towards Obama friends understand that a vote for Obama means more of nonsense like this. - grdred944

13) This decision will cost American lives

Thus wrote the brilliant Justice Antonin Scalia in his dissent to the Boumediene decision of the Supreme Court.

In case you have not been following the bouncing ball, the looselugnut libs of the Court concluded for the very first time in American history, that unlawful alien combatants captured on the battlefield by US troops and held by the military as prisoners outside the US are entitled to petition domestic federal courts in the US for relief using our habeas rights as US citizens.

Honestly, rather than make captures on the battlefield, the troops might well very reasonably decide that the better practice is to just shoot them all dead if they are just going to be released free into the US.

Fortunately, the DC Court of Appeals has stayed the order. But it’s only a matter of time before the libruls are going to make damn certain that Scalia was right. - Krumhorn

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/09/4th-circuit-stops-uighers-from-entering-us/

-- October 9, 2008 10:46 PM


mattuk wrote:

RPT-Baghdad bourse booms as Western stocks go bust
Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:05am BST

By Waleed Ibrahim and Mohammed Abbas

BAGHDAD, Oct 9 (Reuters) - Worried about the global financial meltdown? Here's a tip: try Iraq.

Stock markets across the globe may be tanking, but the Baghdad bourse is booming, with the general index of Iraq's stock exchange up by nearly 40 percent last month. The floor of Baghdad's stock exchange was heaving with investors and brokers on Thursday, many glued to their phones and eager to snap up bargains on the second day of trading after a national holiday.

Brokers -- sweat stains spreading under their armpits -- wrote the latest stock prices on a wall of whiteboards, the Baghdad bourse's answer to computer screens.

Investors waved and made hand signals at the brokers working behind a low partition. Hotels and banks were the hottest picks among the exchange's 95 listed companies.

"People know the hotel stocks are undervalued ... They think that in the new year companies will come to Iraq and the hotel business will flourish," said investor Saad Jalil, adding that the bourse was the busiest he'd ever seen it.

"People think there will be a jump in stocks, because they're undervalued. The world banking crisis won't affect us, our market is sealed off from the outside. We don't even have electronic trading."

Share prices on Iraq's stock exchange plummeted during the years of sectarian warfare after the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein. Investors say visiting the bourse was almost impossible when militia and death squads ruled the streets.

But violence has fallen to four-year lows. Baghdad's stock index jumped a year ago when the fall in violence was most pronounced, and has zoomed again in recent weeks as investors eye a reconstruction bonanza fuelled by huge oil revenues.

SHIELDED FROM GLOBAL WOES

Global financial woes are unlikely to infect Baghdad, the head of the stock exchange said.

"The people exposed to the financial crisis are foreign investors ... (but) their participation in our market is not greater than three percent," Taha Abdul-Salam told Reuters.

There are still worries ahead. Iraq's 2009 budget depends on oil staying above $80 a barrel. Prices have fallen to below $90 in the last few months, down from over $140 in July.

"All of Iraq's economy is tied to oil. The oil price has gone down, so Iraq's revenues will go down. So of course it will affect reconstruction and other businesses, which will affect stock market investors," said stock market player Abu Haider.

Investors also complain about the Iraqi Central Bank's high interest rates -- at least 16 percent since January last year.

But some boasted that they could to avoid the problems now being faced in the West because of lax rules and easy credit.

"The American system is all on credit. Here, take a loan, here, take a loan," said investor Adel al-Jawahiri. "You can't have a totally free market. You have to have rules."

"From what I understand of why the credit crisis happened, I can only describe their administration as stupid." (Writing by Mohammed Abbas: Editing by Dominic Evans)

-- October 10, 2008 8:57 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi commentator proposes ways to improve services of state-owned banks

Government-owned and private banks are considered to be one of the important economic enterprises that conduct internal and external transactions, which are related to public and private funds, as well as trading in local and foreign banknotes based on the exchange rates prevailing on the market.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Outlaws train abroad, try to return, says Ata 10/10/2008 12:49:00

Baghdad (NINA)- Spokesman for Baghdad security plan "Enforcing the Law" Major General Qasim Ata revealed that the government has intelligence information indicating that "outlaws try to return and launch terrorist activities in Iraq.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi PM visits Al-Sistani in Najaf

Politics 10/10/2008 11:31:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 10 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on Friday arrived in the Iraqi city of Najaf where he met with the religious scholar Ali al-Sistani.
A source in the Najaf Governorate Council told KUNA that al-Maliki arrived in the holy city of Najaf and visited Al-Sistani's house.
The city of Najaf has been witnessing intensive security measures since late Thursday in preparation for the visit.
The source did not reveal more details about al-Maliki's visit to Al-Sistani, but said that the two men were most likely to discuss the latest developments in talks between Baghdad and Washington over the security agreement to be concluded between the two parties.
Meanwhile, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said earlier that negotiations on the security agreement between the two countries reached the final phases, and important political meetings will be held between Iraqi officials and leaders of political blocs in the coming days before signing it with the U.S. side. (end) aha.tg KUNA 101131 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:25 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Armed clashes erupt in Sadr city, say witnesses

Military and Security 10/10/2008 9:07:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 10 (KUNA) -- At a time the United States condemned the assassination of member of the Sadrist bloc MP Saleh Al-Aqeeli, eyewitnesses said that armed clashes erupted late on Thursday in Sadr City between gunmen and security forces in what was believed to be retaliation for the assassination of Al-Aqeeli.
The U.S. conviction was uttered by its embassy in Baghdad and the multinational force in Iraq, which said in a statement they "strongly condemn the assassination of a member of the Iraqi parliament Dr. Saleh Al-Aqeeli".
The statement described the assassination as a "heinous crime" which was not aimed at Dr. Al-Aqeeli alone, but was against the democratic institutions of Iraq.
The embassy called on all parties to resolve their differences through dialogue and negotiations and through national institutions.
The witnesses said that violent armed clashes erupted earlier in the day in Sadr city between gunmen believed to be from the Mahdi Army and US-Iraqi joint forces stationed in the city on the background of the assassination of Al-Aqeeli.
The witnesses told KUNA over the phone the clashes erupted in Al-Falah street in the city's downtown, one of the most important streets in Sadr City, where joint troops are stationed in several points.
Witnesses said they heard explosions and exchanging of small fire arms but the sound of clashes subsided later. (end) aha.tg KUNA 100907 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq to outline oil contracts to foreign companies
By Tom Bergin

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Iraq will next week provide foreign oil and gas companies with details of the contracts under which it hopes the companies will help boost the country's oil output by 1.5 million barrels per day.

A delegation led by Iraq's oil minister Hussain al-Shahristani will present prequalified companies at a meeting in London on Monday with geological data on the fields, as well as details on the financial terms of the contracts and the process for applying.

Bill Cline of consultants Gaffney Cline, which is helping organize the roadshow, said that although some companies have been working with Iraq on studies of the fields for some years, the presentation will make sure all compete on an even basis.

Royal Dutch Shell and BP were among the companies that helped appraise the fields.

The contracts on offer are service contracts, which mean the winners will be paid a flat fee to produce the oil rather than receive an equity stake in the fields or any share of profits.

Forty-one companies, including most of the big international oil companies, have qualified to bid.

Cline said he expected companies to have to take away the information they receive and study it closely before deciding whether to bid.

Oil executives agreed that no decisions were likely to be made on Monday.

"There won't be any negotiation," a source at one of the oil companies that will attend said.

While the improved security climate in Iraq is easing one main deterrent to investment in Iraq, oil companies generally do not like service contracts as these cap their gains.

However, Muhammad-Ali Zainy, senior energy economist at the Center for Global Energy Studies, said the contracts will attract strong interest.

"I think there is going to be some severe competition," he said.

"There is nothing wrong with the format of the contracts. There are reasonable. They are 20 years long."

The oil fields open for long-tern development contracts are Rumaila, Kirkuk, Zubair, West Qurna Phase 1, Bai Hassan and the Maysan fields. Maysan comprises three fields, Bazargan, Abu Gharab and Fakka.

Two gas fields, Akkas and Mansuriyah, are also open.

Iraq said it wants to sign the deals by mid-2009.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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American companies exploring the possibility of economic cooperation in Sulaymaniyah

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An American economic delegation, explored on Monday, the reality of the labor and production in the province of Sulaymaniyah, and expressed optimism about the possibility of development of this sector and build bridges of cooperation with the U.S. companies.

The Director of Sulaymaniyah Office for the economic and trade in the U.S. consulate in Arbil ,David Saklr , clarified during his meeting with Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Sulaymaniyah, Hassan Baqi Hawrami on (Monday), that Sulaymaniyah, "has witnessed a great movement of construction and there is a good chance for economic development", noting that the visit of Consulate delegation aimed to " explore the economic situation in the province of Sulaymaniyah and to strengthen the relationship between American companies and those working in the province."

For his part, the Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Sulaymaniyah Hassan Baqi Hawrami , submitted his data on the level of production in the province and the number of companies working in ", and expressed the hope that" American companies would go to product in Kurdistan. "
The town of Sulaymaniyah, the status of Sulaymaniyah, about 364 km north of Baghdad.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Iraq awards $1 bln water deal to France's Suez
10/7/2008



By Ahmed Rasheed
BAGHDAD, Oct. 6 (Reuters) - Iraq has awarded a $1 billion contract to a unit of French firm Suez Environnement to provide water for eastern Baghdad, the Iraqi capital's municipal government said on Monday.
The contract is to build a giant plant to provide water for the eastern Baghdad district of Rusafa, which includes rapidly growing Shi'ite suburbs that have had poor water supplies as a result of decades of economic sanctions and war.
"The cabinet has agreed to award the tender of the Rusafa water project ... to France's Degremont," Baghdad's Mayor Sabir Al-Esawi said in a statement.
"The contract's value is about $1 billion," Esawi added. A spokesman who read out the statement said the deal had not yet been formally signed.
Degremont is the water-treatment plant unit of Suez Environnement. A spokeswoman for Suez Environnement told Reuters in Paris they had made a joint bid for the tender with an Iraqi company, but had not been notified of winning the contract.
Last month, Iraq said it had signed a deal with an unidentified French-Iraqi group to repair eastern Baghdad's water supply system, but did not identify the companies.
Monday's statement did not mention any Iraqi partner, but Baghdad has said foreign firms working in Iraq must work with Iraqi partners and employ as many Iraqi staff as possible.
The planned capacity of the plant is 2.75 million cubic metres of water per day, the mayor said.
Baghdad's dilapidated water infrastructure desperately needs modernising after decades of war and U.N.-imposed sanctions against ousted dictator Saddam Hussein.
Many Iraqis have been frustrated by the slow pace of reconstruction efforts since U.S. troops toppled Saddam in 2003.
A lack of clean water has been blamed for cholera outbreaks and other health problems.
(www.safedinar.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq: Risky land of opportunity
10/7/2008


From The Times
October 6, 2008

Deborah Haynes: Analysis

After almost three decades of war and international isolation, Iraq is crying out for foreign investment and knowledge. A range of state-owned industries, from oil and gas to agriculture and steel, are opening up like never before.

If the opportunities are unprecedented, the risks, although reduced from a year ago, remain high. Military operations against Shia militiamen in southern Iraq and the pursuit of Sunni Islamist terrorists in the centre and to the north of the country may have helped to push violence down to its lowest level in four years, but these security gains are reversible. It remains to be seen whether the Iraqi police and army will succeed in carrying the relative calm into next year as the US military reduces its presence and the few remaining British forces in southern Iraq prepare to leave.

Much hinges on the Government of Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister. Inviting private investment in state-owned sectors requires the agreement of government ministries - and that involves much paperwork and negotiations. Foreign companies that have expressed an interest in Iraq are already familiar with the slow pace of the Iraqi decision-making process. Investors will also be looking for assurances that business legislation is of an international standard.

A bilateral accord between Baghdad and Washington covering their relationship beyond the end of the year, including a Status of Forces Agreement, will add further clarity to the muddled Iraqi landscape. London and Baghdad are to sign a similar accord, which will legitimise the presence of foreign forces in Iraq following the expiry of a United Nations Security Council mandate on December 31.
(www.safedinar.com)

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Rob N.

-- October 10, 2008 9:41 AM


mattuk wrote:

Sadr blames U.S. for Iraqi lawmaker death
Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:37pm BST

By Khaled Farhan

NAJAF, Iraq (Reuters) - Iraqi Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr on Friday blamed the United States for the assassination of a lawmaker who belonged to the cleric's parliamentary bloc, killed a day earlier in a bomb attack.

In the Baghdad district of Sadr City, men cried and shouted slogans as they carried and walked alongside Saleh al-Ugaili's coffin, draped in the Iraqi flag, before it was taken to a cemetery in the holy southern Shi'ite city of Najaf.

"The martyr gave most of his time to eject the occupiers ... And for this reason the hand of the hateful occupation and terrorism killed him," Sadr said in a statement as hundreds of supporters gathered to bury Ugaili.

"God is the greatest, America is the enemy of God," mourners chanted in Najaf after Friday prayers.

Ugaili died on Thursday when a blast struck his car in the Habibiya district of eastern Baghdad. It was not clear who was behind the attack, which Sadr blamed on the United States. The cleric is vehemently opposed to the U.S. presence in Iraq.

There have been several bomb blasts in Baghdad in recent weeks, and a blast killed at least 12 people and wounded 22 on Friday when a car bomb exploded in the busy commercial district of Abu Dsheer in the south of the capital, police said.

Ugaili's killing prompted condemnations from U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and military commander General Ray Odierno, who called his killing an "attack against Iraq's democratic institutions" and a "heinous crime."

Gunmen clashed with U.S. and Iraqi forces overnight in Sadr's Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City. The U.S. military said there had been one American casualty, but did not say if the soldier had been killed or wounded.

A lawmaker from the Sadrist bloc, which has 30 seats in the 275-seat parliament, said Ugaili's killing could be linked to the upcoming provincial elections, due in January.

The polls are expected to see a struggle for power between rival Shi'ite factions in Iraq's oil-rich south.

"The killing could have two reasons. It could be an internal conflict in the Sadrist movement ... or a fight between Shi'ite powers for control of the streets before the polls," said a political science professor at Baghdad University, who declined to be named for security reasons.

Major-General Michael Oates, a U.S. commander in southern Iraq, on Thursday said U.S. forces feared a wave of assassinations before the polls.

Violence in Iraq has declined to four-year lows in recent months, but bombings and shootings still take place daily, especially in Iraq's north.

SECURITY PACT

Four people were killed and at least 15 were wounded when two bombs exploded in the centre of the northern city of Mosul on Friday. The U.S. military says Sunni Islamist al Qaeda is clinging to the city after being forced from havens elsewhere.

U.S. and Iraqi negotiators are in the final stages of negotiating a security pact that will govern the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq once a U.N. mandate expires this year.

Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki -- speaking in Najaf after meeting Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani -- said Washington's request that its troops be sheltered from prosecution in Iraq was one issue that needed to be resolved.

Although Sistani does not comment on politics, Maliki's words after meeting the cleric were notable because Sistani's tacit blessing would almost certainly be necessary to win political support for it.

Sadr's military wing, the Mehdi Army, has launched several uprisings against U.S. forces since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 and has fought rival Shi'ite factions, but in August Sadr extended a year-old cease-fire indefinitely.

(Additional reporting by Waleed Ibrahim in Baghdad; writing by Mohammed Abbas; Editing by Samia Nakhoul)

-- October 10, 2008 12:59 PM


Sara wrote:

The economy is really PEOPLE and what they think about what is happening in the marketplace. Those who see disaster ahead sell.. causing the market to fall. WHAT could be the reason for people seeing disaster? I think this shows a sentiment in the financial sector which is broad based.. (note the statistic of SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT!!) As Obama remains a possibility for President, those who think it would be an economic disaster to have him in the Whitehouse are moving.. out of the marketplace.

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74% of CEOs Believe Obama Would Be Disastrous for the Nation
By Noel Sheppard
October 9, 2008

With the nation in the middle of what is being regularly reported as the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, a new poll found that 74 percent of America's top business leaders fear "an Obama presidency would be disastrous for the country."

Don't be surprised if you didn't hear about this, for virtually no major mainstream press outlet felt it was important to share with the public.

Do you think Obama-loving media would be so apathetic if this poll found an overwhelming majority of business leaders were scared about what a McCain presidency would do to the economy?

Despite the answer, our supposedly impartial press seem totally disinterested in Chief Executive magazine's just-released survey which found some CEOs worried that if implemented "[Obama's] programs would bankrupt the country within three years" (emphasis added, h/t Jazz from Hell, photo courtesy Time.com):
QUOTE:

Chief Executive magazine’s most recent polling of 751 CEOs shows that GOP presidential candidate John McCain is the preferred choice for CEOs. According to the poll, which is featured on the cover of Chief Executive’s most recent issue, by a four-to-one margin, CEOs support Senator John McCain over Senator Barack Obama. Moreover, 74 percent of the executives say they fear that an Obama presidency would be disastrous for the country.

“The stakes for this presidential election are higher than they’ve ever been in recent memory,” said Edward M. Kopko, CEO and Publisher of Chief Executive magazine. “We’ve been experiencing consecutive job losses for nine months now. There’s no doubt that reviving the job market will be a top priority for the incoming president. And job creating CEOs repeatedly tell us that McCain’s policies are far more conducive to a more positive employment environment than Obama’s.” [...]

“I’m not terribly excited about McCain being president, but I’m sure that Obama, if elected, will have a negative impact on business and the economy,” said one CEO voicing his lack of enthusiasm for either candidate, but particularly Obama.

In expressing their rejection of Senator Obama, some CEOs who responded to the survey went as far as to say that “some of his programs would bankrupt the country within three years, if implemented.” In fact, the poll highlights that Obama’s tax policies, which scored the lowest grade in the poll, are particularly unpopular among CEOs.

==end quote==

Despite the poll's findings, from what I can tell, even though this study was disseminated by PRNewswire, it has garnered very little mainstream media attention.

Think that would be the case if these business leaders were so negative about McCain's economic policies?

No, I don't either!

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/09/74-ceos-believe-obama-would-be-disastrous-nation

-- October 10, 2008 1:41 PM


Sara wrote:

This is a very, very important truth I think you should understand about Barack Obama.
Please see the short 2 minute youtube video below.

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John Gibson on why Obama’s political alliances matter
October 10, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

I meant to post this earlier today, but maybe it’s better seen after the latest from Team McCain. My friend John Gibson gave a two-minute dissertation on Rashid Khalidi last night, explaining exactly who Khalidi was when Barack Obama approved a grant of $75,000 for his organization while Obama and William Ayers served on the Woods Fund:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfTvYlMGUxA

We’ve talked about Khalidi before, and even talked about the difference between associates and association. The latter implies a relationship only by accidental contact, while the former refers to an explicit relationship based on action. We’d be better off talking about William Ayers as a political partner of Obama’s, and Khalidi as a political ally, because that’s exactly what they were.

Both Ayers and Khalidi hosted fundraisers for Obama. They weren’t, as Gibson notes, just “some guy in my neighborhood,” but allies in Obama’s political career. And that alliance went in both directions. Khalidi got a $75,000 grant while still tied to Yasser Arafat, one of the most notorious terrorists in the world before and after the rise of Osama bin Laden. Obama ran the Chicago Annenberg Challenge for Ayers and made sure millions of dollars in grants went to Ayers’ pet projects in attempting to turn primary schools into factories for political activists.

Barack Obama told us we could trust his judgment. Where was that judgment when he allied himself with people like Ayers, Khalidi, Tony Rezko, and the Daleys and their Chicago Machine? That’s not just a series of accidental associations from random juxtaposition, but deliberate alliances from which Obama benefited in his political career. Now that they’ve become a liability, Obama wants to pretend he barely knew them and accuse people of applying guilt by association. That won’t keep people from taking a hard look at his supposedly superior judgment.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/10/john-gibson-on-why-obamas-political-alliances-matter/

-- October 10, 2008 2:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Too:

McCain ad: “Ambition”

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9JNna5EmJg

-- October 10, 2008 2:38 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal
In private conversations on troop presence, candidate pitched delay
Barbara Slavin
Friday, October 10, 2008
EXCLUSIVE:

At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn't be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.

Mr. Obama's conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate's contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war.

Some of the specifics of the conversations remain the subject of dispute. Iraqi leaders purported to The Times that Mr. Obama urged Baghdad to delay an agreement with Mr. Bush until next year when a new president will be in office - a charge the Democratic campaign denies.

Mr. Obama spoke June 16 to Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari when he was in Washington, according to both the Iraqi Embassy in Washington and the Obama campaign. Both said the conversation was at Mr. Zebari's request and took place on the phone because Mr. Obama was traveling.

However, the two sides differ over what Mr. Obama said.

"In the conversation, the senator urged Iraq to delay the [memorandum of understanding] between Iraq and the United States until the new administration was in place," said Samir Sumaidaie, Iraq's ambassador to the United States.

He said Mr. Zebari replied that any such agreement would not bind a new administration. "The new administration will have a free hand to opt out," he said the foreign minister told Mr. Obama.

Mr. Sumaidaie did not participate in the call, he said, but stood next to Mr. Zebari during the conversation and was briefed by him immediately afterward.

The call was not recorded by either side, and Mr. Zebari did not respond to repeated telephone and e-mail messages requesting direct comment.

Mr. Obama has called for a phased U.S. withdrawal of all but a residual force from Iraq over 16 months, a position the Iraqi government appears to have embraced.

U.S. and Iraqi officials have been struggling for months to finalize a deal that will allow U.S. troops to remain after Dec. 31, when a U.N. mandate sanctioning the military presence expires. Iraqi officials have said that the main impediment is agreement over a timeline for U.S. redeployment and immunity from Iraqi prosecution for U.S. troops and civilians.

Obama campaign spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Mr. Obama does not object to a short-term status of forces agreement, or SOFA.

Mr. Obama told Mr. Zebari in June that a SOFA "should be completed before January and it must include immunity for U.S. troops," Miss Morigi wrote in an e-mail.

However, the Democratic nominee said a broader strategic framework agreement governing a longer-term U.S. presence in Iraq "should be vetted by Congress," she wrote.

She said Mr. Obama said the same thing when he met in July with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Mr. Zebari in Baghdad.

A recent article in the New York Post quoted Mr. Zebari as saying that Mr. Obama asked Iraqi leaders in July to delay any agreement on a reduction of U.S. troops in Iraq until the next U.S. president takes office.

Miss Morigi denied this. She said the request for Senate vetting was bipartisan and noted that the first Obama-Zebari conversation took place 12 days after four other members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee - including Republican Sens. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska - wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates urging consultation over any agreements committing U.S. troops and civilian contractors to Iraq "for an extended period of time."

When Mr. Obama spoke to Mr. Zebari, he was speaking in his capacity as a senator and a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Miss Morigi said. "It's obvious that others are trying to mischaracterize Obama's position, [but] on numerous occasions he has made it perfectly clear that the United States only has one president at a time and that the administration speaks with one voice."
Sen. Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat who accompanied Mr. Obama in Iraq along with Mr. Hagel, said they made "no suggestion of any type of delay" in any agreements.

A congressional aide who was also present and spoke on the condition of anonymity said the senators asked for a congressional role similar to that required by the Iraqi Constitution for Iraq's parliament.

Still, the fact that the Illinois Democrat on June 3 clinched enough delegates to be assured the Democratic presidential nomination gives his comments special force - something that also applies to the Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a key proponent of the surge of extra U.S. forces to Iraq last year.

As a U.S. senator, Mr. Obama "has a foot in both camps," said Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University. "It's within the jurisdiction of his committee and something he's entitled to speak about. It doesn't raise a red flag for me."
White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe declined to comment on the matter.

Leslie Phillips, a press officer at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, also declined to comment even though an embassy note-taker was present during the senators' meeting in Iraq. "The embassy's role is purely to facilitate the meetings," she said.

Presidential nominees traditionally have not intervened personally in foreign-policy disputes, although campaign surrogates have done so.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/

-- October 10, 2008 6:25 PM


Sara wrote:

I am hoping French psychologist Gustave Le Bon is wrong when he said, "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them." And Reg Morrison who said, "The rise and fall of cultures.. has always been primarily determined by the tides of human passion, not by the ebb and flow of reason."

Against these expressed sentiments, I am hoping reason does not fall on deaf ears.

Does America realize the importance of the NEXT Presidential term in confronting Iran?
Who can lead America through such difficult times?
Does the Presidency truly lend itself to "on the job training."..??

I ask you...
Where will these 60 nukes end up?
Three guesses for Obama.. ONE.. oops, no.. TWO.. oops, no.. THREE.. ?
I would hope he would get it right the THIRD time..
and that you and your loved ones were not victims in the first two mistakes he would make.
On the job training.. indeed.

You know the vision I had.. was about this many bombs, simultaneously set off in the USA.
I saw it happen pre-911, and it is still the future, that has not changed.
I wonder if anything we do has the ability to change that future.. or if it is inevitable.

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Iran: Tehran could make 60 nuclear bombs in two years, says US expert

Milan, 10 Oct. (AKI) - Iran may have the capacity to produce up to 60 nuclear bombs within two years, a leading US non -proliferation expert has told Adnkronos International.

Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Washington-based Nonproliferation Policy Education Center (NPEC), was taking part in a summit , "Preventing nuclear proliferation in the Middle East", organised by Italy's Institute for the Study of Foreign Policy (ISPI) and the Italian Foreign Ministry in Milan.

In an interview with AKI, Sokolski raised the alarm about Iran's intentions, claiming that it would have sufficient plutonium after the opening of the Bushehr plant to construct from 30 to 60 bombs.

The nuclear facility at Bushehr is being built under an agreement between the Russian and Iranian governments for 800 million dollars and is expected to begin production in early 2009.

Sokolski said Iran was putting in place the necessary technology and knowledge to recover the new plant's waste using a chemical process that does not need complex installation or specific structures.

"Plutonium that could be used to make atomic bombs," he told AKI. "The fuel for Bushehr will be supplied by the Russians who also said they would dispose of the waste products from it."

But he said few people know that this waste will remain in Iran for two years before being taken away.

"In this time frame the Iranians, with an excuse to analyse the waste, can transfer it to a chemical factory and extract the plutonium," he said.

He said in the first 18 months the plant would use between 22 to 25 tonnes of fuel, from which 300 kilogrammes of plutonium could be recovered from the waste to make from 30 to 60 bombs.

Henry Sokolski heads the nonprofit organisation founded in 1994 to promote a better understanding of strategic weapons proliferation issues among policy-makers, scholars and the media.

He also serves as an adjunct professor at the Institute of World Politics in Washington and is a member of the Congressional Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism, to which he was appointed in May 2008.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2568914430

-- October 10, 2008 7:24 PM


Sara wrote:

-- October 10, 2008 7:34 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama documentably lied, but expecting him to admit it and apologize is like waiting for hell to freeze over.

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NRLC still waiting for Obama to apologize
October 10, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) produced a one-minute TV spot declaring their vindication on their research into Barack Obama’s record on infanticide, which Obama had called “lies”. They are still waiting for an apology from Obama:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h80mSgsQ6CU

The NRLC uncovered documentation that refuted Obama’s contention that he voted against SB1082, the Illinois version of the Born Again Infant Protection Act because it didn’t have the same “neutrality clause” of the federal BAIPA that protected abortionists. When David Brody confronted Obama about it, he called the NRLC liars — but later had to admit they were correct. Fact Check confirmed this in August.

Barack Obama owes the NRLC an apology for calling them liars, and he owes the American people an explanation of why he really opposed this bill. It would have prevented no abortions, but would have required doctors to provide normal care for infants born alive after surviving an abortion. Obama pretends that existing law already required this, but he knows that’s a lie as well. The Attorney General told the legislature that the law didn’t prevent this from happening, and that the legislature needed to make the law more clear. That’s why the legislature considered this bill on three separate occasions. Obama voted against it all three times, and killed it in his committee in 2003.

Will he apologize? Will he explain himself? I sincerely doubt it, and as long as the debate moderators don’t ask questions about it, most voters will probably never hear about it. You can read more about this on the NRLC’s website, or in my previous posts on the subject:

- Infanticide, revisited
- Yes, we can … elect a guy who votes for infanticide
- There are a lot of things above Obama’s “pay grade”
- Team Obama acknowledges infanticide lie
- Obama camp: He only voted against that born-alive abortion bill because it might actually have an effect
- Obama’s support for infanticide breaks into mainstream media
- Obama: Bill unnecessarily burdened doctors with … babies; Update: AOL Hot Seat poll added
- McCarthy: Obama’s moral failing on infanticide
- Obama’s ad lies about infanticide vote

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/10/nrlc-still-waiting-for-obama-to-apologize/

-- October 10, 2008 9:55 PM


Sara wrote:

CNN Exposes How ACORN Steals Votes For Democrats

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkUKOSnv2zY

-- October 10, 2008 10:16 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Stealing Pennsylvania: "Massive Fraud"
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 10/10/2008 4:09:45 PM

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."

"Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem," Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state. Counties specifically cited included:


* Delaware County: One of four key suburban counties that surround Philadelphia and are at the heart of the campaign by the forces of Senator Barack Obama to carry the state. In one instance, an ACORN employee circulating voter registration forms in Delaware County was featured on the Pennsylvania "Megan's Law" website, described as having been arrested for "aggravated indecent assault" of a child. Other ACORN circulators had prior criminal records for forgery and giving false information to a police officer, among other charges. Gleason has provided copies of complaints from actual Delaware County voters who were notified by the local election board of their "new" registration to vote. One voter wrote that he "did not complete this form because this information does not match my info at all. I have been a voter for many years. Did not recently register to vote." Said another: "I did not submit any application for voter registration…While the spelling of my name and address is correct, the birth date and Drivers License (sic) number are incorrect." And another angrily wrote that the "personal information" on a form submitted in her name "IS NOT ME." She added: Please have the county investigate this. I feel my identity is being compromised."

* Philadelphia County: The situation in the state's largest city is so bad the Philadelphia City Commission, which supervises the registration of Philadelphia voters, voted unanimously to "voluntarily" turn over its extensive records to the United States Attorney's office for prosecution.

* Dauphin County: Dauphin County (the location of the state capital) District Attorney Marsico said the situation was so bad in Harrisburg that one ACORN worker is now being sought by authorities for submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registration forms. The charge is 19 counts of perjury. One Harrisburg lobbyist, a voter for 30 years, had received notification she had recently filled out a registration form. The lobbyist went straight to the DA with her complaint. Marsico said that what was happening with ACORN "affects the integrity of the process" and that the volume of phony registrations made him "sure that others are going on" that have been undetected.

* Allegheny County: Pittsburgh. Here District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. and county police Superintendent Charles Moffatt have just announced, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, that "they are investigating and considering charges against ACORN staffers and other voter registration groups."

* Centre County: The home of Penn State, which enrolls more than 40,000 students at its home campus. Justice Newman said there was a "massive effort" to fraudulently register students, with efforts aimed at "multiple registrations."

* Erie County: The county at the northwestern tip of the state with its largest namesake city, here too students at local colleges are being targeted in "student registration drives" designed to register voters 18 and over "multiples of times." Student registrants, registered to vote in their home states, had "pending absentee ballot applications" submitted so they could vote for president both in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. The Director of Elections in Erie has reported the telltale "same handwriting" on applications, according to Newman.

Marsico added that he believed the attempted fraud was being perpetrated in smaller Pennsylvania counties as well, counties where the resources to investigate simply don't exist.

Perhaps most humorously was the role of 21st century technology in tracking down several attempted frauds. Through the wonder of Google, aerial shots displayed the following:

* 2418 Curtin Terrace in Philadelphia is -- an empty field.
* 3103 S. 24th Street in Philadelphia -- ditto.
* 4543 N. 11th Street in Philadelphia -- ditto.


And so on. And on again.

Asked whether the Pennsylvania State Democratic Party had come forward to work with the GOP on the ACORN voter fraud issue, Gleason tersely shook his head. One source did say that much of the impetus for the fraud was "an Obama effort," as opposed to the Democratic Party as an institution.

All of this brings Pennsylvania into focus as yet another key battleground state where a serious effort is being made to, bluntly put, steal the presidency in a move reminiscent of the attempts made by the 2000 Gore campaign in Florida. Just as ACORN's efforts have been directed at key electoral states such as Florida, Colorado, Missouri, New Mexico Ohio, and Wisconsin, so within Pennsylvania have its efforts been targeted at key Pennsylvania counties. For decades the internal electoral math of the state for Republicans has been to overwhelm the heavy Democratic vote in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with strong showings in the Philadelphia suburbs, Central Pennsylvania, and western counties outside Pittsburgh.

Thus have ACORN's fraud efforts -- those at least that have been detected -- been directed at Philadelphia (where increasing the Obama total to counter less enthusiastic support from white ethnics becomes critical), Delaware County in the pro-GOP Philadelphia suburbs, Dauphin County (in the heart of Central Pennsylvania) and Erie in the Northwest.

Is it really possible that the presidency could be stolen for Obama by virtue of a massive voter fraud here in Pennsylvania? And elsewhere? ACORN seems to think so. One so-called "non-partisan" ACORN member, Gleason pointed out, has been captured on video tape saying the group's objective was to "beat McCain down." Not exactly "non-partisan" sounding, is it?

Newman, the retired Supreme Court Justice, was blunt on the evidence: "I don't want a president who does this."

ACORN clearly does. Makes you wonder: why?


Jeffrey Lord is a Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14034

-- October 11, 2008 2:49 AM


Sara wrote:

QUOTE:

But don't take our word for it. One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting (this, below):

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Investors' Real Fear: A Socialist Tsunami
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Friday, October 10, 2008

The Crash: "Why has the market dropped so much?" everyone asks. What is it about the specter of our first socialist president and the end of capitalism as we know it that they don't understand?

The freeze-up of the financial system — and government's seeming inability to thaw it out — are a main concern, no doubt. But more people are also starting to look across the valley, as they say, at what's in store once this crisis passes.

And right now it looks like the U.S., which built the mightiest, most prosperous economy the world has ever known, is about to turn its back on the free-enterprise system that made it all possible.

It isn't only that the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party is favored to take the White House. It's that he'll also have a filibuster-proof Congress led by politicians who are almost as liberal.

Throw in a media establishment dedicated to the implementation of a liberal agenda, and the smothering of dissent wherever it arises, and it's no wonder panic has set in.

What is that agenda? It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need — all in the name of "neighborliness," "patriotism," "fairness" and "justice."

It continues with a call for a new world order that turns its back on free trade, has no problem with government controlling the means of production, imposes global taxes to support continents where our interests are negligible, signs on to climate treaties that will sap billions more in U.S. productivity and wealth, and institutes an authoritarian health care system that will strip Americans' freedoms and run up costs.

All the while, it ensures that nothing — absolutely nothing — will be done to secure a sufficient, terror-proof supply of our economic lifeblood — oil — a resource we'll need much more of in the years ahead.

The businesses that create jobs and generate wealth are already discounting the future based on what they know about Obama's plans to raise income, capital gains, dividend and payroll taxes, and his various other economy-crippling policies. Which helps explain why world stock markets have been so topsy-turvy.

But don't take our word for it. One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting just that:

"The prospect of such tax-rate increases in 2010 is already a drag on the economy," they wrote, noting that the potential of higher taxes in the next year or two is reducing hiring and investment.

It was "misguided tax hikes and protectionism, enacted when the U.S. economy was weak in the early 1930s," the economists remind us, that "greatly increased the severity of the Great Depression."

We can't afford to repeat these grave errors.

Yet much of the electorate is determined to vote for the candidate most likely to make them. If he wins, what we consider to be a crisis in today's economy will be a routine affair in tomorrow's.

http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=308530365266606

-- October 11, 2008 2:36 PM


Sara wrote:

I was over at Rasmussen looking at the polls today.
And lo and behold.. this commentary today on the site.
Interesting..

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The Coming Obama Thugocracy
A Commentary by Michael Barone
Saturday, October 11, 2008

"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. "I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Actually, Obama supporters are doing a lot more than getting into people's faces. They seem determined to shut people up.

That's what Obama supporters, alerted by campaign emails, did when conservative Stanley Kurtz appeared on Milt Rosenberg's WGN radio program in Chicago. Kurtz had been researching Obama's relationship with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers in Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers in the Richard J. Daley Library in Chicago -- papers that were closed off to him for some days, apparently at the behest of Obama supporters.

Obama fans jammed WGN's phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest emails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Rosenberg's example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.

Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were "false." I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Obama's ties to Ayers.

These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can't abide having citizens hear contrary views.

To their credit, some liberal old-timers -- like House Appropriations Chairman David Obey -- voted against the "fairness doctrine," in line with their longstanding support of free speech. But you can expect the "fairness doctrine" to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.

Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. "Saturday Night Live" ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC's Website and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don't want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.

Then there's the Democrats' "card check" legislation, which would abolish secret ballot elections in determining whether employees are represented by unions. The unions' strategy is obvious: Send a few thugs over to employees' homes -- we know where you live -- and get them to sign cards that will trigger a union victory without giving employers a chance to be heard.

Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that used to pride themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech that they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims that this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/the_coming_obama_thugocracy

-- October 11, 2008 3:03 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq ups Christian security
October 11th, 2008

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — At least 900 Christian families have fled Mosul in the last week, terrified by a series of killings and threats by Muslim extremists ordering them to convert to Islam or face possible death, officials said Saturday.

The attacks may have been prompted by Christian demonstrations ahead of provincial elections, which are to be held by Jan. 31, 2009, the deputy governor of Nineveh province said.

In response to the violence, Iraqi Defense Minister Abdul Qader al-Obaidi visited Mosul Saturday morning, conducting meetings with local authorities and military commanders.

His spokesman, Mohammed al-Askari, said in addition to ordering more checkpoints in Christian neighborhoods, al-Obaidi ordered more troops deployed, additional security patrols and an increase in aerial surveillance of Christian areas.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/

-- October 11, 2008 5:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Russia test-fires ballistic missile to mid-Pacific
Sat Oct 11, 2008
by Oleg Shchedrov, Kevin Liffey

MURMANSK, Russia (Reuters) - Russia for the first time test-launched a strategic missile to the equatorial part of the Pacific Ocean on Saturday, a navy spokesman said.

The spokesman said a Sineva missile had been launched from the nuclear-powered submarine Tula in the Arctic Barents Sea in the course of military exercises observed by President Dmitry Medvedev.

"For the first time in the history of the Russian navy, the target of the missile was in an equatorial part of the Pacific Ocean rather than the Kura testing ground on the Kamchatka Peninsula," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081011/wl_nm/us_russia_missile_pacific

-- October 11, 2008 6:15 PM


Sara wrote:

It's amazing to me that Obama is ahead in the polls when he has NOT said he has ANY plan to help in this financial crisis:
QUOTE:

"To my knowledge, he's said absolutely nothing about what he would do," said Glenn Hubbard.(end quote)

I guess America just LOVES leaders.. who don't lead them.
So long as they promise them goodies along the way?

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Obama cautious, vague in economic crisis
The Democratic nominee is clearly benefiting from the economic turmoil – despite a hazy understanding of his solutions.
By BEN SMITH
10/11/08

Sen. Barack Obama has taken a commanding lead in the race for president not because of any dramatic gesture, but because of a signature political trait: his caution.

The nation's economic crisis triggered Obama's sharp rise in what had been a tight race. But Obama hasn't tried to seize the kind of central, national leadership position for which Sen. John McCain grasped, and fell short. Nor has he been touting — Bill Clinton-style — a highly detailed plan for what he'll do the moment he takes office.

The result is that while virtually all observers agree that he has benefited from the crisis, his allies and critics alike remain a bit hazy on what exactly he would do if he takes office Jan. 20, 2009.

"To my knowledge, he's said absolutely nothing about what he would do," said Glenn Hubbard, a former chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisers who is now the dean of Columbia Business School.

Obama has often thrived in this campaign by talking in foggy terms about his plans, here and abroad. It frustrates critics — and some voters looking for clear indications of how he would lead — but also provides tremendous flexibility for adjusting positions now and in the White House if he wins.

In fact, Obama has talked about the economy — only softly. Many of his key plans — for economic stimulus, for attending to the troubled housing market and for financial regulations — are policy prescriptions he and other Democrats have been discussing for months or more. Several became urgent — and in some cases passed into law — when the crisis deepened last month.

Publicly, though, he's said little, repeatedly answering a question in the first debate about what priorities would have to be set aside owing to the cost of the bailout with a list of the many programs he'd nonetheless provide. McCain was hardly more specific, though he did finally say he'd seek to freeze almost all federal spending.

Although Obama has been a quiet player in shaping the federal response, he's been avoiding a high-profile association with the policies, which have thus far failed to halt the financial markets' precipitous decline. In the early days of the crisis, as the scope of the crisis became clearer — Obama immediately released a statement on what he wouldn't do.

"He mostly cleverly dodged being associated with the issue while McCain was happy to smear radiation all over himself," said Dan Mitchell, an economist at the libertarian Cato Institute.

This isn't to say that Obama doesn't have a thick stack of policy proposals. He proposed a $115 billion stimulus package in August, for instance, though — disappointing some on the left — he didn't make it a condition of his support for the bailout. He gave a detailed speech on financial regulation in March. He called for the government to take partial ownership of troubled banks, the latest Treasury plan, which he greeted Friday with measured support. And more recently he's rolled out a pair of smaller-scale initiatives: raising the cap on deposit insurance and providing emergency loans to small businesses like those given after Sept. 11, 2001.

Still, Obama's response had some veterans of the last administration noting the contrast with former President Clinton, whose politics were always rooted in richly detailed policy plans.

"It's a wiser approach with regards to this crisis to not lay out what the plan is," said former Clinton White House chief of staff Leon Panetta.

If Obama does come to office, the fact that he hasn't been selling a specific package may leave him more leeway to cope with what is expected to be a severe budget crunch, economists said.

"He's being cautious, and he's doing everything he can to leave his options open at this point," said Baker. "I don't think he sees any money in getting out there and saying, 'Here's my 47-point plan.'"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14484.html

Ah.. no need to define what you would do.. just leave the options "open", hey?
That way, you can say anything was.. or wasn't your plan.
Great plans.. great leadership.. NOT.
Is this really the best America asks of her leaders?
No plan.. just vagueness and that is all they ask of "hopenchange"?
Well, you get what you pay for, I guess... what you want.. what you deserve.
At least usually.. unless God has mercy, you do.

Sara.

-- October 12, 2008 4:43 AM


Carole wrote:

Well Hello!
It has been awhile. Hope everyone bearing up.
Welllllll,
after 3 weeks working on the volunteer corps for Obama ( in battle states, Colorado, NM and Nev)I QUIT! It took a boulder to drop on my head, but Mc CAIN WAS, IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO THROW THIS ELECTION!

I'm just wondering how long it will take Newt and Carl Rove to figure this out.

The campaign committee ( at least the volunteer force) has been duped! Good people, hard working and wanting to do away with the Obama's in Washington. and very worried about the future of this country.

So much has changed since I left ( 3 weeks ago ).

It it's not the same world!

BUT IT IS THE WORLD THAT HAS BEEN PROPHETICALLY PREDICTED.

1. Like in the book of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, God has allowed evil leaders to rise up in this nation to instill His judgment on a land and nation that reeks with evil and idolatry...

2. Bush, the son of the founder of the Trilateralist Commission, is about to join us into the "Global Community" and soon we will be sharing the same economic instruments that the Euro 15 nations do.

3. China is about to make an offer to the Asian world that they won't be able to refuse.

4. Obama will pull us out of the Middle East, and isolate and forbid us any involvement with the peoples of his ancestry.

5. America will be forced to cooperate with becoming the North American Union....just to survive...

AND THERE YOU HAVE IT!

The world divided into 4 regions as predicted in scripture, prior to Christ's return.

Sooooo, Christians, whom I am sure have already put this together, we will be meeting in the heavens long before we ever get to the pig roast.

Christ's return to earth to establish His kingdom here, is proceeded by 7 years of tribulations and sorrows, ( which we are in the shadows of RIGHT NOW).

BUT just prior to that, THE RAPTURE takes place. This is an event where Jesus fulfills His promise to come back for the Church ( The Body of Christ...ie Believers).

For Christians, this is an exhilarating time, yet an anxious time since we know that soooo many are going to be LEFT BEHIND.....
to suffer because of their rejection of the gospel and the message of salvation.

My deepest prayer and hope would be that RIGHT NOW attention would be given to this mater by all whom have yet to trust Jesus for their salvation, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.....

BUT or those who continue to reject Christ, I can only recommend that when you realize what you have done ( after the event of the rapture) that you dive into scripture, band together with others whom are in the same boat, AND REALIZE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DIE FOR YOUR FAITH....rather than take the mark of WORLD ALLIANCE. TO SUCCUMB TO THAT IS SIGNING UP FOR ETERNITY IN A REAL HELL.

A few years ago, this scenario seemed like a FAIRY TALE. "How could something so preposterous ever be orchestrated?" we asked.

IT TOOK ALOT OF FAITH TO THINK IN THAT REALM.

but........today, as we speak,
we are actually living the reality of prophecy! It is getting clearer and clearer....also as scripture predicted it would.

I know there are many on tis board who are very much in tune with the times......join me in praying for those who still need to receive Christ in their hearts.....

" No man comes to the Father unless the Spirit Draws Him near......." and this is my prayer.

Lord , may YOUR HOLY SPIRIT DRAW MY FRIENDS HERE THAT HAVE NOT YET GIVEN THEIR HEARTS TO YOU.

God Bless,

Carole

-- October 12, 2008 6:57 AM


Carl wrote:

What you are observing is simply a repeat of History...
People were so disgusted with Carter they would have voted for a anyone that was not a democrat...the same is happening here...Obama is just sitting in the chair and along for the ride...it appears the populace will vote for anyone who is not a republican..
I say this with sadness as it appears we are headed down a socialistic road...

Carol while I don't agree with your religious views, I do agree with your view of the North American treaty about to begin its installation...I would not be surprised that the leaders this weekend came up with a solution to form a world economic organization...where all nations fall under those guidelines...one currency, one control over the banking system , etc..

-- October 12, 2008 7:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Oh ye of little faith. I read the polls and see where Hussein has the lead but I think most polling is incorrect. The questions are asked in such a fashion to evoke the wanted response. November 4, 2008 will be the day where the majority (still the social conservative) will cast their vote and at the end of the day the next President of the United States will be John McCain. By the way, Newt still should have run against Obama. I think we would have had a different type of campaign.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 12, 2008 10:26 AM


Sara wrote:

Carl and Carole;

Hitler came to power during an economic crisis because he was charismatic and promised everyone lots of goodies and financial help in the crisis. I guess that the opposition party was polite about Hitler coming to power, too. After all, Hitler was such a good (charismatic) guy, right? The Israeli people faced a Holocaust shortly thereafter. In the VP debate, Sarah Palin was strident that there would not be another Holocaust under McCain. Biden gave no such assurances (see my previous post), just saying he was pro-Israel (but against the US group who represents their view). You know the saying about history.. those who do not learn from it, are doomed to repeat it.

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Obama's Muslim Outreach Staff Yet Again Shows Terrorism Leanings, Stark Anti Semitism

By Debbie Schlussel

**** SCROLL DOWN FOR IMPORTANT UPDATE ON MAHDI BRAY'S ANTI-SEMITISM ****

Remember Mazen Asbahi? Barack Hussein Obama's first Muslim outreach director was fired for his connections to the Muslim Brotherhood (but is apparently still involved in the Obama campaign).

Now, Asbahi's replacement, Minha Husaini, will probably have to go, too. You see, she attended a meeting with Asbahi and a number of terror-supporting Muslim groups that the FBI and Department of Justice say are fronts for HAMAS and other Muslim Brotherhood terrorist groups. Oh, and a number of the people at the meeting--like Mahdi Bray--have openly supported anti-Semitism and Islamic terrorist groups:
QUOTE:

The Obama campaign said it was a mistake for an outreach coordinator to join a meeting last month attended by leaders of two controversial Muslim groups as it seeks votes from large Muslim populations in swing states.

Minha Husaini, newly named as head of the campaign's outreach coordinator to Muslims, attended a discussion session Sept. 15 with about 30 Muslim leaders and community members in suburban Washington, the Obama campaign confirmed. Participants included leaders of the Council of American-Islamic Relations and the Muslim American Society, which have been cited by the government in the past for ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

In August, the campaign's previous coordinator, Mazen Asbahi, resigned over a similar issue. . . .

Mr. Asbahi, who also attended the meeting now entangling Ms. Husaini, resigned after questions arose about his brief tenure on the board of an Islamic investment fund along with a controversial Illinois imam. At the time, campaign officials said he was stepping down because he didn't want to become a distraction for the campaign.

Thursday, campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt, responding to questions about the September session in Springfield, Va., said Ms. Husaini wouldn't have attended had she known that Council of American-Islamic Relations and Muslim American Society leaders were going to be there.

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Baloney. These groups will be welcome in a Barack White House.
QUOTE:

Mr. LaBolt said campaign workers' efforts are aimed at acquaint Muslim voters with Sen. Obama's positions and to work on voter turnout. "We have a whole faith outreach effort that includes interacting with mosque leaders," he said.
One attendee at the Springfield meeting was Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society's Freedom Foundation. The Justice Department has asserted in court proceedings that the society's organizers were members of the Muslim Brotherhood, a global group promoting political Islam.

Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR, also attended the session, as did the group's legislative director. The government named CAIR an unindicted coconspirator in the Justice Department's racketeering prosecution last year of alleged Hamas fund-raisers. CAIR said the designation was unjustified; the case ended in a mistrial, but is being brought again by the government.

Mr. Awad declined to comment. Mr. Bray didn't respond to a request for comment. The Obama campaign said it couldn't comment on Mr. Asbahi's attendance at the session.

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Mahdi Bray is openly anti-Semitic and, like Awad (who also goes by the name Nehad Hammad), is a vocal supporter of HAMAS and Hezbollah.

The thing is, the Bush Administration and Democrats and Republicans of all stripes have unfortunately feted these groups and individuals, lending them legitimacy when they never should have had any. Is this the beginning of the end?

Don't hold your breath. It's only the beginning of our end.

Yid With Lid and NBC have more. (see urls)

**** IMPORTANT UPDATE: I'm reminded that I wrote about Mahdi Bray, who was at the meeting with Obama's Muslim outreach chica, in the Detroit Free Press in 2002:
QUOTE:

In October 1998, Mahdi Bray coordinated and led a Washington rally of 2,000 people, during which he played the tambourine as the crowd repeated, "Let's all go into jihad, and throw stones at the face of the Jews."

On Dec. 22, 2000, Bray organized and spoke at a rally outside the White House at which the emcee and crowd chanted responsively in Arabic: "O Jews, the Army of Muhammad is coming for you!" The Nazi swastika was openly displayed.

==end quote===

Yup, this is the kind of Muslim outreach Barack Hussein Obama is reaching out for.

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-- October 12, 2008 10:52 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

I am also hopeful still that we will be pulled back from the precipice of the disaster of an Obama Presidency by the populace voting for McCain.
It does not lessen the yawning abyss opened at our feet, or the unsettling view from here.
I am looking ultimately for the mercy of God.

Sara.

-- October 12, 2008 10:58 AM


Sara wrote:

Hitler, too, claimed to be a "good Christian".
In reality, was he? Is Barack Hussein Obama?

TV ad features Obama mocking Bible:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IWTqTm6iM

Reverence for the Word of God?
By a believer?

Sara.

-- October 12, 2008 11:08 AM


Sara wrote:

"We need to take faith seriously, not simply to block the religious right, but to engage all persons of faith in the larger project of American renewal." -
Barack Hussain Obama from October 23, 2006 TIME Magazine Article P. 54 and P. 56 "My Spiritual Journey."

-- October 12, 2008 11:22 AM


Sara wrote:

A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV15wtmJ

-- October 12, 2008 11:32 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraqi cabinet approves oil draft law

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6 July 2007 - Issue : 737

The Iraqi government is to pass an amended draft of the country's oil legislation to parliament for ratification, official al-Iraqiya television said on July 3. According to the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI), the official spokesman for the Iraqi cabinet, Ali al-Dabagh, said the legislation was approved after some amendments from the government. The nature of these amendments was not disclosed. A day later, the government of the Kurdish autonomous region of Iraq said it has "considerations" regarding an amended draft of the country's oil legislation. In a statement the official spokesman to the Kurdish government said the administration was "not given the chance to assess the final draft of the law, and so cannot verify that it parallels the version agreed upon by both parties." The Kurds described the cabinet's approval under these circumstances as "unconstitutional."http://www.neurope.eu/articles/75712.php

-- October 12, 2008 12:38 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraqi newspaper: Iraq, الکويت going to sign agreements مشترکة and an end to the debt issue

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Iraqi newspaper: Iraq, الکويت going to sign agreements مشترکة and an end to the debt issue Print E-mail
Sunday, 12 October 2008 Sunday, 12 October 2008

افادون. Iraqi newspaper reported that Iraq الکويت going مشترکة to sign agreements in the areas of security, trade, economic and تشکيل special committees to put an end to the debt issue.اد. The newspaper quoted ((morning)) today (Sunday), the assistant Walid Tabtabai الکويتي member of parliament as saying that "الکويتي Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah, will carry during his upcoming visit to Baghdad by the end of this year, a number of agreements signed between the two countries حکومتي" , مؤکدا that the coming period will witness a leap in the development of relations pledges المشترکة, especially with the imminent opening of الکويت Embassy in Baghdad.ة through a more مذکرات understanding in all fields, noting the existence of new افکار such as supplying Iraq بالکهرباء and use of the surplus water, which is Iraq in the Shatt al-Arab for purposes of agriculture.". On the debt issue الکويتية on Iraq, said Tabtabai going to raise the issue required a special law of the government to the parliament for a vote الکويتي and استدرک saying "يمکن rescheduling of the debt or through mutual benefits by opening the door for investment شرکات الکويتية in Iraq."ن. He stressed that the relations Tabtabai Iraq - الکويتية is not dependent on the debt issue, as يمکن understanding تشکيل them through special committees to study and end this file, and it was ready الکويت to کافة kinds of support to Baghdad, seeking to strengthen the bonds of cooperation between the two countries. recently decided to appoint the Chief of the General الأرکان Ex-insured Ali retired ambassador in Iraq, which کويتي appoints first ambassador to Baghdad after the Iraqi invasion of کويت in August 1990.http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://iraqshabab.net/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D12285%26Itemid%3D27

-- October 12, 2008 12:42 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Are the polls right? Will Obama be President?

The public has fooled pollsters before. In 1948, Republican Governor of New York Thomas Dewey was well ahead of Democrat Harry S. Truman in the polls. The Chicago Tribune published a front page headline, "Dewey defeats Truman".
Of course, there never was a President Dewey. It never happened.

President Harry S. Truman had a famous picture taken of himself, holding the Chicago Tribune paper, with the famous headline, above his head.

Also, Thomas Bradley, former mayor of Los Angeles, was ahead 7 points, in the election to be governor of California, a while back, and he was rejected by the voters, surprising everyone.

Whatever the case, it's up to the American people to decide this election. CNN, and the other networks, are furiously working to elect Obama. The coverage in this election is very biased, in favour of the Democrats. You'd have to be dead not to notice.

-- October 12, 2008 12:42 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Investing in Iraq is safer than investing in the stock market, says the investment minister for Kurdistan.
The Kurdistan Regional Government is promoting the area as a haven for foreign companies wanting to set up business in Iraq.
The semi-autonomous region is relatively stable compared with the rest of the country. Herish Muharam Muhamad, head of the investment board for Kurdistan, joked to The Observer that investing in Erbil, the region's capital, was now safer than Wall Street. 'We are saying to companies, "Make your base in Kurdistan to invest in the rest of Iraq". ' He said more than half the 5,000 or so firms registered in the region were foreign.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...iraq-kurdistan
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-- October 12, 2008 12:46 PM


Sara wrote:

The polling is skewed, it just doesn't add up..
Do you believe that, (among other inconsistencies listed below)
QUOTE:

"the electorate in November will be 27 percent Republican, 40 percent Democrat, and 30 percent Independent"??

Yet, this is what the polling statistics are based upon..
McCain voters.. don't sit back and let Obama win it by not showing up at the polls.
That appears to be the strategy behind these misleading polls...
to so dishearten the Republican base that only 27 percent turn out to the polls.
The idea Obama has already won is disproven by the statistics here.
As Zogby said.. it is too close to call and will be until Nov 4, it is not the hyped Obama win.

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Does Newsweek Really Stand By This Poll?

Dear friends at Newsweek...

Just to clarify...

You have McCain winning Republicans, 89 to 7. You have Obama winning Democrats, 91 to 5. (I'm a bit skeptical, but for now, for the sake of argument, I'll accept your assertion that PUMAs are extinct.) You have McCain winning independents by 2 percent, 45 to 43.

And this adds up to an 11-percent Obama lead in your latest poll?

We are to believe that McCain is losing among women by 9 percent, but losing among men by 14 percent.

We are to believe that the Hillary voters are lining up behind Obama, 88 percent to 7 percent.

We are to believe Obama is winning 18 to 34-year-olds by 10 percent, but he is winning 45 to 64-year-olds by 16 percent.

We are to believe the white vote is just about even, 46 percent for Obama, 47 percent for McCain.

And we are to believe the electorate in November will be 27 percent Republican, 40 percent Democrat, and 30 percent Independent.

If the over/under on the partisan breakdown on Election Day is 13 percent, I'd take the under. I wonder if anybody in Vegas would take that wager...

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODIxNWRlOWNiN2Q0MTkxNTU0Yjg2MDY0OWU3M2I2YWE=

-- October 12, 2008 1:37 PM


Sara wrote:

This is the latest Newsbusted comedy:

SEE: http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e4SUkUuzpr

The first "joke" I found interesting enough to mention:
QUOTE:

"The Associated Press has reported that there's a one in four chance that, if elected, John McCain will not survive his second term. AND, there's a one in two chance that the new Iraqi Government won't survive Barack Obama's first month."

==end quote==

I noticed the concession that McCain's first term is safe, and how the spinsters only attack his second. Let's take the timeline one term at a time. There will be 30 to 60 Iranian nukes in play within the next two years (see post, above), during McCain's first term. McCain will deal with that scenerio in the best interests of the country. Barack is too green to be trusted with 3 AM phone calls, nuclear powerplays and foreign power policy nuances. McCain should be seen as the man of THIS hour (THIS term) - the one correctly accomplishing the goal of safeguarding American (and then international - ie IRAQI) interests - which should be the priority in the minds of those who are voting into office the best person to sit at the helm of the United States for the next four years.

Sara.

-- October 12, 2008 6:31 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Insulated from global woes, Iraqi stocks soar

While the rest of the world is facing a financial meltdown, the Iraq Stock Exchange is booming.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:36 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

EU Presidency concerned over security of Christians in Iraq

Politics 10/13/2008 3:50:00 PM



PARIS, Oct 13 (KUNA) -- The French presidency of the EU expressed here Monday that it is very concerned by the security situation that Christians are living under in Iraq.
The EU Presidency said in a statement that it "firmly condemns the violence which took place these past few days in Mosul, where people have been assassinated because of their religion." It added that it has also "noted the measures taken by the Iraqi government with a view to guaranteeing the security of this community, including the rapid deployment of police units in Mosul, which is a positive sign." The statement also expressed "hope that these measures allow an end to be brought to the violence." Mosul has the second largest community of Christians in Iraq after Baghdad, where it is estimated that there are about 700,000 Christians in that country.
Iraq ordered around 1,000 policemen to patrol Christian areas in Mosul, in light of the violence witnessed in that city, which is considered the worst since the start of the US-led war in 2003. (end) si.hb KUNA 131550 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

British troops can leave, Iraqi Prime Minister

Military and Security 10/13/2008 12:13:00 PM



LONDON, Oct 13 (KUNA) -- British troops should leave Iraq because they are no longer needed to maintain security in the south of the country, the Iraqi Prime Minister said Monday.
Nouri Maliki told The Times newspaper it was time for British combat forces to go home, though there might still be a need for their experience in training Iraqi forces and on some technological issues.
Maliki said the relationship between the two countries should now be focused on improving business, scientific and educational links.
"We thank them for the role they have played, but I think that their stay is not necessary for maintaining security and control", he told the paper.
Maliki attacked Britain's decision last year to move forces from their base at a palace in Basra to an airport on the edge of the city, saying it had been very premature. He said "They stayed away from the confrontation, which gave the gangs and militias the chance to control the city".
"The situation deteriorated so badly that corrupted youths were carrying swords and cutting the throats of women and children".
"The citizens of Basra called out for our help . . . and we moved to regain the city", he added.
However, insisting that the "page had been turned", Maliki said "The Iraqi arena is open for British companies and British friendship, for economic exchange and positive cooperation in science and education".
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has signalled his intention to cut troop numbers in Iraq next year, with a shift towards a more diplomatic role for Britain.
For his part, Christopher Prentice, British Ambassador in Iraq, told The Times "It will be good to move out of the artificial relationship in which military aspects had prominence and into a more natural partnership".
"We fully intend to develop a broad-based relationship with the whole of Iraq. I hope that we will see that happen in the course of next year", the Ambassador added.(end) he.bz.
KUNA 131213 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi government fuels 'war for oil' theories by putting reserves up for biggest ever sale
BP, Shell and Exxon in meeting with minister
Unprecedented 40bn barrels up for grabs
By Terry Macalister and Nicholas Watt

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13 October 2008 (The Guardian)
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The biggest ever sale of oil assets will take place today, when the Iraqi government puts 40bn barrels of recoverable reserves up for offer in London.

BP, Shell and ExxonMobil are all expected to attend a meeting at the Park Lane Hotel in Mayfair with the Iraqi oil minister, Hussein al-Shahristani.

Access is being given to eight fields, representing about 40% of the Middle Eastern nation's reserves, at a time when the country remains under occupation by US and British forces.

Two smaller agreements have already been signed with Shell and the China National Petroleum Corporation, but today's sale will ignite arguments over whether the overthrow of Saddam Hussein was a "war for oil" that is now to be consummated by western multinationals seizing control of strategic Iraqi reserves.

Al-Shahristani is expected to reveal some kind of "risk service agreements" that could run for up to 20 years, with formal offers to be submitted by next spring and agreements signed in the summer.

Gregg Muttitt, from the UK-based social and ecological justice group Platform, says he is alarmed that the government is pushing ahead with its plans without the support of many in Iraq.

"Most of the terms of what is being offered have not been disclosed. There are security, political and reputational risks here for oil companies but none of them will want to see one of their competitors gain an advantage," he said.

Heinrich Matthee, a senior Middle East analyst at the specialist risk consultant Control Risks Group, also believes there are many pitfalls for those considering whether to make an offer.

"Currently it is unclear which party in Iraq is authorised to award a contract and at the same time to deliver its side of the bargain," he said. "Any contract with an independent oil company will be subjected to opposition and possible revision after pressure by resource nationalists."

Oil companies will find their reputations at risk from the actions of their Iraqi counterparties, such as joint venture partners, suppliers and agents. They will also have to contend with oil smuggling and the possibility that the ruling alliance could collapse, Matthee said.

He said that if the conspiracy theory that western oil companies egged on US and British governments to invade Iraq were true, the plan could backfire on them and benefit rivals in Asia instead. "It is possible the American army has provided the economic stability that will encourage Malaysian, Chinese and other Asian companies to become involved," he said.

There is no precedent for proven oil reserves of this magnitude being offered up for sale, said Muttitt. "The nearest thing would be the post-Soviet sale of the Kashagan field [in the Caspian Sea], which had 7bn or 8bn barrels."

China's state-owned oil group, CNPC, has already agreed a $3bn (£1.78bn) oil services contract with the government of Iraq to pump oil from the Ahdab oil field.

The deal is the first major oil contract with a foreign firm since the US-led war and was followed up by an agreement with Shell, potentially worth $4bn, to develop a joint venture with the South Gas Company in Basra.

This deal has also triggered controversy. Issam al-Chalabi, Iraq's oil minister between 1987 and 1990, questioned why there had been no competitive tendering for the gas-gathering contract and claimed it had gone to Shell as the spoils of war.

"Why choose Shell when you could have chosen ExxonMobil, Chevron, BG or Gazprom?" he asked. "Shell appears to be paying $4bn to get hold of assets that in 20 years could be worth $40bn. Iraq is giving away half its gas wealth and yet this work could have been done by Iraq itself."

The Baghdad government says it aims to increase crude oil production from 2.5m barrels a day to 4.5m by 2013, but faces internal opposition from regional governors and political opponents.

The sale today comes as oil prices have plummeted after stockmarket turmoil on Friday. The price of crude fell by more than $4 at one point to $75 a barrel - the lowest point since September last year and a sharp drop from its peak of $147 in July. Opec, the oil producers' cartel, has called an emergency meeting to agree a cut in output to bolster prices in spite of protestations from politicians including Gordon Brown. Brown said on Friday: "We've had some success in getting the price of oil down: the price this morning is roughly $80, about half what it was a few months ago. I want these price cuts passed on to the consumer as quickly as possible.

"I'm concerned when I hear that the Opec countries are meeting, or are about to meet, to discuss cutting production - in other words, making the price potentially higher than it should be.

"I'm making it clear to Opec it would be wrong for the world economy and wrong for British people who are paying high petrol prices and high fuel prices to cut production and therefore keep prices high."

A government source said: "The one chink of light has been the fall in the price of oil. The last thing we want is to head into a difficult period with a return to high oil prices. People need to act responsibly."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Russian Lukoil urging Iraqi to conclude an oil agreement

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13 October 2008 (Iraq Directory)
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The Russian company Lukoil oil, clarified that it has urged Iraqi oil minister, on (Tuesday) to remove the obstacles to investment in West Qurna oil field, and since a month ago China has become the first country to renegotiate on oil agreement related to the era of Saddam Hussein.

Vajit Aleekpirov the Executive Director of Lukoil, told Reuters that Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani is solely responsible for delaying the agreement of West Qurna field, despite the willingness shown by Russia to abolish most of Iraq's debt.

Aleekpirov, who owns about 20 percent of Lukoil's second-largest Russian oil producer, "We have offered our experience and if there were political aspects we shall remove them. Unfortunately, the Iraqi Ministry of Energy did not have any step."

He added: "This comes despite the fact that Russia is likely to be the only country which has abolished the largest amount of Iraqi debt to improve the position of that country."

Russia agreed in February to abolish most of Iraq's debt, which are the remaining 12.9 billion dollars and signed a separate agreement to open the country for the investment of Russian companies worth four billion dollars. Moscow had already been exempted from most of Iraq debt payments.

The Iraqi government agreed on oil services contract last month, worth three billion dollars with China National Petroleum Corporation, which had been signed mainly in 1997 in a move might constitute a future agreements in the country boasts of having the third-largest proven oil reserves in the world.

Lukoil is battling to revive the agreement of West Qurna field, which took place during Saddam Hussein reign in Iraq. The analysts of LG. Morgan investment bank estimated that the Russian company's share in the project up to 6.8 billion dollars.

Al-Shahristani has said that the Basic Agreement "totally unfair" and stated during announcing the agreement with China in September that Iraq rejects all contracts except oil service contracts and that he would not share Iraqi oil with foreign companies.

Aleekpirov said, "the minister's position is the position of one person ... I hope to find a compromise."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:45 AM


Rob N. wrote:

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Addax Petroleum announces acquisition in Kurdistan region of Iraq

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13 October 2008 (AME Info FZ LLC)
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Addax Petroleum Corporation announces that it has acquired a 33.33% interest in the Sangaw North Production Sharing Contract (PSC).

The Sangaw North license area is operated by Sterling Energy plc (Sterling) and is located approximately 80 kilometers southeast of the Corporation's Taq Taq field.

Commenting today, Addax Petroleum's President and Chief Executive Officer, Jean Claude Gandur, said: 'We are pleased to expand our activities in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq to include the highly prospective Sangaw North license area.

Given our successful drilling campaign at Taq Taq, we intend to assist our partner to expedite exploration drilling. We believe that exploration success at Sangaw North would offer attractive synergies with the development of Taq Taq for the benefit of all the people of Iraq and our shareholders.'

The Sangaw North PSC covers a gross area of approximately 121,600 acres (492 km(2)). Petroleum exploration activity to date includes field studies and the acquisition of 310 km of 2D seismic which is expected to be completed in November of this year. The Sangaw North license area contains a large surface anticline, a number of surface oil seeps and the operator is targeting to spud an exploration well in mid-2009.

The Sangaw North PSC is subject to an assignment to the Korean National Oil Corporation which, when completed, will reduce the Corporation's interest to 26.67%. In addition, the Kurdistan Regional Government has the right to require that at a future date a government nominated entity is assigned 25% which, if exercised, will further reduce the Corporation's interest to 20%.

Under the terms of the acquisition, the consideration from Addax Petroleum comprises the reimbursement of Sterling's past costs as well as funding the seismic campaign and the drilling of the first exploration well.

This reimbursement is funded from the Corporation's existing financing facilities and the future costs will be included in the Corporation's 2009 capital budget which is expected to be funded entirely from the Corporation's funds flow from operations.

The Corporation continues to have substantial funding capacity within its existing financing facilities.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 13, 2008 9:46 AM


timbitts wrote:

Rob,

Addax Petroleum originated in my home town of Calgary. I own stock in it. In my opinion, it is one of the safer companies, to try to get in on the oil action in Iraq. Addax also has substantial oil holdings in Nigeria, near where the American military has just finished building it's African command centre. So I think it's safe from nationalization threats that have happened to much of the world's oil. Of course, whether Addax works out in Iraq or not depends on what happens politically in Iraq. The oil agreements Addax and other companies have signed with the Kurdish government are considered illegal by the central Iraqi authorities. If Addax loses all it's oil drilling privileges in northern Iraq, my investment won't do as well. However, Addax has oil holdings all over the world, so I think I'll still make money on the investment, even if the Iraqi portion of their companies holdings go bad. And if Addax keeps and develops it's oil leases, under any new law, I should do very well on this company.

-- October 13, 2008 2:06 PM


mattuk wrote:

Dirndls, oom-pah, sausages? Oktoberfest in Iraq

By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER, Associated Press Writer Sun Oct 12, 10:09 AM ET

BAGHDAD - Dirndl-clad waitresses deliver frothy beers, the brass band has the oom-pah music in full drive and there are sausages on the grill.

Welcome to Iraq?

It may still be a far cry from the Oktoberfest party in Munich, Germany, that draws in 6 million people each year. But Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq is looking to cash in on the relative peace it is enjoying with new investment and — despite the challenge of attracting foreigners to one of the world's most dangerous countries — perhaps the beginnings of a tourism industry.

In Irbil, a city 350 kilometers (217 miles) north of Baghdad, German beer house owner Gunter Voelker wants to dispel the notion that Iraq isn't a holiday destination. In the north, at least, beer is bringing people together.

"It is good to have an area here in Iraq where we can make this festival in peace with friends," said Volker, whose restaurant, the Deutscher Hof Erbil, ended its three-night celebration of the famed German beer festival early Sunday.

"We can make this festival with Iraqi people, Turkish people, Kurdish people, American people, German people, with (people from) all over the world in peace and in a real good mood."

He also had a special message for his compatriots, who as Europe's biggest travelers can contribute greatly to any nascent tourism industry.

"For my people from Germany," he said in German to AP Television News, "Iraq is not dangerous everywhere. There are good areas here. There is Kurdistan and the Kurdish region, where you can get around well, where you can get work done, where you are welcome, where the war stays away."

Iraq's Kurdistan region is already a travel destination for thousands of Iraqis, eager to leave behind the heat, dust and daily killings in their country's heartland for the green, tranquil mountains of the north.

Organized bus tours are possible as a result of the improved security that has taken hold in much of the country over the last year. A week in a modest hotel, with bus fare, costs about US$160 per person, or just one-third of an average monthly Iraqi salary.

Arab visitors are still carefully screened in the semiautonomous region about the size of Switzerland and home to nearly 3.8 million people.

The relative calm, however, is even bringing in tourist operators from farther afield. France's Terre Entiere recently added Kurdistan to its catalog, billing the trip as a Christian pilgrimage and timing it for the Christmas holidays. In June, the Long Beach, California-based agency Distant Horizons conducted a 12-day visit to the region.

"The north of Iraq is ready for (doing) business," said Raik Mingramm, a German who sells electrical machinery and one of a few dozen guests at the beer hall. "Maybe we can bring some money into the country."

Behind him, members of the brass band "Edelweiss" in their Lederhosen gear up for yet another rendition of "Ein Prosit der Gemuetlichkeit," a Munich standard that roughly translates to "Cheers to our well-being."

It's a strange song perhaps for a gathering of people in Iraq, where tens of thousands have died since the 2003 U.S. invasion.

It is one, however, that those in the north are learning the words to.

-- October 13, 2008 2:34 PM


Sara wrote:

Basra is "secure" says UK's military chief in southern Iraq
13 Oct 08
In the first of a series of special reports from Basra, Britain's most senior military representative in southern Iraq, General Officer Commanding Multi-National Division (South East), Major General Andy Salmon, talks about the improving security situation in Basra, the current activities of British troops and outlines his hopes for the future. Report by Danny Chapman.

Maj Gen Salmon explains how the results of the Iraqi-led 'Charge of the Knights' operation, conducted earlier this year with the aim of ridding Basra of criminal militias, is still having hugely positive effects amongst the Iraqi people themselves both in the city and the wider province:
QUOTE:

"Basra is secure," he says. "The level of violence has reduced considerably since Charge of the Knights. We know that the threat still exists but the public are very confident in the ability of the Iraqi Army to deal with insurgents and terrorists. And last week we had for only the second time since the beginning of the year, no attacks at all on Multi-National Forces or Iraqi Security Forces."

"The number of security operations that the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) are doing in the city and in the region are making it very difficult for militias to raise their ugly heads. Another factor is that people are growing more in confidence and once people get a taste for freedom they don't like people ruining that hope. We've seen an increasing number of tip-offs which have led to bigger finds when the ISF are conducting cordon and strike-type operations and also tip-offs to ourselves which allow us to be quite proactive in some of the operations we do."

"People are very keen on Iraqi sovereignty, they want normality. They have seen huge gains down here with the ISF being incredibly confident having achieved considerable success during and after Charge of the Knights.

"But the ISF are short of capability in many of the key enabling areas - signals, motor transport, logistics - and they're really keen on us to keep helping them develop those capabilities.

"They're also very keen that we're just around to bolster their confidence. At the same time, in some areas we don't have to be particularly visible and what we're very conscious of is adapting our profile contingent to localised security conditions. If we don't need to be there, we're not.

"But it's important that we're maintaining our influence with the ISF because they're not quite ready to stand on their own two feet yet."

"There might be a concern if we weren't sure of the joined up level of understanding over security conditions in the city and how capable the Iraqi Army is with dealing with future challenges. Like any relationship, you have to understand how to ease off a little, when to pull your foot of the gas, when to become more invisible. When the soldier who's standing side by side with an Iraqi soldier steps into the background, the Iraqi soldier stills knows he's there and is reassured by that and he does a few things himself and gets really confident and all of a sudden he forgets that the [British] soldier is not standing there behind him any more. That's when you know you have done a good job."

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/BasraIssecureSaysUksMilitaryChiefInSouthernIraq.htm

-- October 14, 2008 10:05 AM


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'60 Minutes' video: Drone warfare in Iraq
October 13, 2008
Posted by Jonathan Skillings

One technology more than any other has stood out as a success story for the U.S. military in Iraq: unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs.

The best-known of the UAVs, the MQ-1 Predator, has evolved from its early use as simply a reconnaissance and surveillance aircraft to become a highly valued weapon in its own right. Armed with Hellfire missiles, it can both track enemy combatants and fire on them. A more recent version of the Predator, called the MQ-9 Reaper, was specifically put into service as a "hunter-killer" drone.

The Pentagon has been so impressed with the use of UAVs in combat zones that it has made a high priority out of training and assigning new pilots for the aircraft. While the Predators carry out missions in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, and are handled by ground crews there, the pilots generally operate from thousands of miles away, in places like Creech Air Force Base in Nevada.

In Sunday's installment of the CBS news magazine 60 Minutes, correspondent Lesley Stahl traveled to Iraq to talk to Gen. Ray Odierno, the new top commander there, and other senior U.S. military personnel about the role of UAVs.

U.S. officials credit the high-tech aerial systems as among the top reasons that violence in Iraq dropped so dramatically this year. And earlier this year, although still a young technology, the Predator and the Shadow were among the half-dozen UAVs recognized with an exhibition at the Smithsonian Institution.

Please click on the link below to see the 60 minutes segment, as the url to the video player is not linkable - Sara.

SEE the link here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10064231-76.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

-- October 14, 2008 10:17 AM


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Iran accused of Iraq bribes
Ernesto Londono in Baghdad
October 14, 2008

INTELLIGENCE reports suggest Iran has tried to bribe Iraqi lawmakers in an effort to derail a bilateral agreement to allow US troops to stay in Iraq after the end of this year, the commander of US forces in Iraq has warned.

General Ray Odierno said in an interview that Iran, a Shiite Islamic nation eyed warily by the US and Sunni Arab countries, is working publicly and covertly to undermine the status-of-forces agreement as Iraq and US officials report nearing a deal that must be ratified by Iraq's parliament.

A Kurdish lawmaker, Mahmoud Othman, said Iran had courted potential allies in Iraq's parliament, including Kurds and Sunnis, over recent months.

"They will try their best to influence anyone they can," said Mr Othman. "They will tell people that this is dangerous, that this is not good for Iraq."

General Odierno said Iran's alleged efforts to derail the agreement could backfire. "I truly believe that Iraqis are nationalists," he said. "They want to choose on their own what's best for their country and they don't want somebody else to decide what's in their best interest."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/iran-accused-of-iraq-bribes/2008/10/13/1223749938889.html

-- October 14, 2008 10:23 AM


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FM calls Greek companies to contribute in reconstruction

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On the fringe of International Finance Fund and the World Bank in Washington, Iraqi Finance Minister Baqar Jober az-Zobaidi has called the Greece companies to contribute in Iraq's reconstruction process, rehabilitate its infrastructure and find fruitful cooperation mechanism between two countries.

In statement to as-Sabah newspaper, Director of Finance Minister's Bureau Mohammed al-Haryri said: az-Zobaidi hold bilateral meeting on Sunday with Greece Finance Minister, his undersecretary and Greece ambassador in Washington on the fringe of International Finance Fund and the World Bank meetings.

During the meeting attended by Iraq's ambassador in the US Samir as-Somadi, the bilateral ties between the two friendly countries have been reviewed and discussed means of enhancing them in a way benefits the joint interests.
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-- October 14, 2008 10:34 AM


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COOPER and ADLERSTEIN: A modern-day Hitler - Ahmadinejad targets Jews
Abraham Cooper and Yitzchok Adlerstein
Monday, October 13, 2008

On Thursday, Jews celebrated Yom Kippur. A key component of this holiest of days is teshuva - repentance and the possibility of change. Our parents taught us that to wipe the slate clean we must detail our own misdeeds and dialogue face to face with those with whom we've been in conflict.

There are diplomats and religious leaders who believe that unconditional conversation is also the way to secure peaceful relations with Iran. The issue of how to engage the soon-to-be-nuclear Tehran is also a defining fault line between the competing foreign-policy visions of Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

Some analysis of recent events and an anniversary of a pivotal moment in history can help clarify the fine line between dialogue and appeasement. By any yardstick, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's trip to New York last month was a triumph for Ayatollah Khamenei and a debacle for the cause of human rights in Iran. At the rostrum of the U.N. General Assembly, President Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann gave Mr. Ahmadinejad a public embrace usually reserved for a Nobel Prize laureate, not for the president of a country under heavy U.N.-led sanctions. His speech also generated warm applause from scores of ambassadors in the hall. But did anyone actually read his lips?

Mr. Ahmadinejad might as well have been reading from the genocidal "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It was the Jew-hater's valedictory address. Having already threatened to wipe Israel off the map, Mr. Ahmadinejad graduated to the next level of hatemongering. Deploying rhetoric not heard in the international arena since the days of Hitler and using imagery usually reserved for the rants of the KKK and neo-Nazis, he came after all Jews. In the midst of the unprecedented global economic meltdown, Mr. Ahmadinejad pointed to a network of "Zionists" and their lackeys as scheming, "materialistic" villains responsible for the world's ills.

The mullahs must have taken smug satisfaction that their frontman paid no price for his tirade. No one stormed out of the General Assembly. American interviewers let him evade the tough questions, surrendering to his clever retorts by presenting the warm, human side of the person who recently pushed for the death penalty for Muslim converts to Christianity. And respected religious leaders, including the representatives of 550 million Protestants from the World Council of Churches, still lined up for a gala evening with Mr. Ahmadinejad. Hailed by the Mennonite and Quaker organizers as "the dialogue dinner," the only dialogue available to the distinguished leaders was with the waiters. Despite his earlier promises, Mr. Ahmadinejad took no questions. Instead he spoke, feasted on the propaganda bonanza, and departed.

The net result was not dialogue, but appeasement. Ironically, Mr. Ahmadinejad's trip coincided with the 70th anniversary of the Munich Conference in September 1938. Returning from the summit with Hitler, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain told a relieved British people that he had bought "peace in our time." Within two months, however, democratic Czechoslovakia was swallowed up by the Third Reich and Nazi Germany launched its war against the Jews through the terror of Kristallnacht. A year later, it would plunge the world into the abyss of World War II.

On the eve of Munich, war-weary Europeans viewed appeasement as a positive goal, not a tragic failure. Back then, no one could imagine Auschwitz or modern genocide. Hitler's rhetoric could be dismissed as just that. Seven decades ago, a Europe still recoiling from the horrific casualties wrought by World War I could be excused for self-delusion.

But in the digital age there are no excuses. Tehran's rush to put a nuclear payload on missiles aimed at Israel, Europe and beyond is no pipe dream. Its repression of minorities threatens loyal and peaceful Christians and Baha'i. And two days after Mr. Ahmadinejad returned from New York, his minister of culture furthered Iran's state-sponsored hate by helping to launch a new book mocking the victims of the Holocaust.

So, wither dialogue? The Yom Kippur model can only work when the other party wants to listen and is willing to offer something toward a common goal. The coddling by diplomats and religious elites plays right into the hands of the mullahs' fanatical ambitions, and vapid photo-ops only provide cover for evil men on a mission.

Our next president can find a working model by studying the George Shultz Cold War playbook. His State Department unabashedly placed human rights front and center in all dealings with the Soviets. While there were plenty of diplomatic contacts and cultural exchanges, progress on bilateral relations was always keyed to human rights. And those high-profile summits between top leaders? They were few and far between, carefully negotiated. Even when crucial nuclear issues were on the table, so were America's demands for progress for dissidents struggling to leave or change Russia.

It's clear we can't leave negotiations with Iran to media icons or to people so desperate to see good that they are blind to evil. Job one for our next president is to signal pro-American young Iranians they are not forgotten and oppressed minorities they are not forsaken. Any potential meeting with Tehran's evil theocrats must be linked to real and verifiable policy changes on the ground. Anything less could lead America down the road to appeasement or war.

Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein is director of Interfaith Relations for the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/a-modern-day-hitler/

-- October 14, 2008 10:36 AM


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Maliki vows Protecting Christians in Mosul

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Baghdad, 14 October 2008 (Al-Sabaah)
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PM Norri al-Maliki met MP Younadim Kana and Abdul Ahad Ifram beside other members in the political office in Ashurian democratic movement party to discuss the government performances in treating the last events towards the Christians there.

He undertook instant performing to stop the threats towards the Christians in Mosul city, in time interior ministry announced later sending two battalions from the national forces to Mosul to stop the threats which targeted the Christians through the last few days, while deputy governor in Mosul charged the Kurdish forces behind the act by displacing the Christians from their houses.

Meanwhile, Maliki ordered saving secure conditions for the families because they have full rights in being Iraqis and should live in the same level with their brothers of Moslems.
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-- October 14, 2008 10:38 AM


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First Syrian ambassador to Iraq since 1980s takes up duties

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14 October 2008 (Jordan Times)
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Syria's first ambassador to Iraq in 26 years took up his post in Baghdad on Monday, marking the official end of more than two decades of frosty relations, the government said.

Nawaf Fares, who was the governor of Quneitra in the Golan Heights, presented his credentials in Baghdad Monday, a statement from the foreign ministry said.

Fares' appointment will "enhance relations with Syria and take us to a new phase of cooperation and coordination in the interest of both countries," it said.

He is the first Syrian ambassador to Baghdad in almost three decades due to rivalry between the opposing wings of the Baath Party which rules Syria and held power in Saddam's Iraq.

Syria and Iraq restored diplomatic relations in November 2006, ending 24 years of animosity after Damascus accused Baghdad of supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in anti-government riots in 1982.

Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have all named ambassadors in the past month, although due to security concerns the only other Arab ambassador actually posted in Baghdad is the Emirati.

The United States has been pressuring Arab states, particularly its allies in the Gulf, to normalise relations with Baghdad.

In the aftermath of the invasion, Washington repeatedly accused Syria of turning a blind eye to foreign fighters crossing its borders into Iraq to battle US-led forces.

But Iraqi President Jalal Talabani told US President George W. Bush last week that Iran and Syria, long targets of US blame over the deadly unrest in Iraq, now posed "no problem”.

Meanwhile, Iraq's prime minister said the 4,100 British troops in southern Iraq are no longer necessary to provide security, a newspaper reported Monday.

Prime Minister Nouri Maliki told The Times of London that there may be a need for a few British troops to remain for training and technical issues. But as a fighting force, Maliki said the British were no longer needed.

"Definitely, the presence of this number of British soldiers is no longer necessary. We thank them for the role they have played, but I think that their stay is not necessary for maintaining security and control," Maliki said in the interview.

"There might be a need for their expertise in training and some technical issues, yes, but as a fighting force, I do not think it is necessary," he said.

In a statement in London, a spokesman for the ministry of defence agreed that Britain's military role was shifting from fighting to training and that Maliki had "acknowledged this important mentoring and training role." "We are nearing the end of this mission but are not there yet," the spokesman said, declining named comment.

Provincial vote

Iraq will do all it can to hold a provincial election by the end of this year instead of leaving the long-awaited vote until early 2009, Maliki's office said on Monday.

The election was due in October, but after delays in passing the law authorising it, the poll had been expected to take place by the end of January.

Maliki met election officials on Monday and discussed preparations for the polls.

"Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki confirmed that his government will take all necessary steps to enable the Independent High Electoral Commission to carry out the provincial election before the end of the current year and not postpone it to next year, and to hold the election in a transparent atmosphere without fraud and manipulation," his office said in a statement.

"Iraqi security and armed forces are completely ready to protect polling stations. The security plans have been put in place to achieve this goal." The election will give groups which boycotted the last regional polls in 2005 a say in provincial government for the first time.

But the election is also seen as a potential flashpoint for violence, with powerful regional bosses facing the prospect of being voted out of office for the first time.
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-- October 14, 2008 10:39 AM


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Interview between PM Nouri al-Maliki and the Times
PUKmedia 14-10-2008 11:51:01

Do you think that the "Status of Forces Agreement" between Iraq and America will be decided by the end of the year?

The agreement is important to us and necessary and signing it before the expiry of the international resolution that covers the legal side for the presence of the coalition forces on December 31, 2008.

We want to sign such an agreement so that we don’t go to the Security Council (for an extension of the mandate) ... You know that the Security Council is now going through crisis. There are differences among the members? Our desire is to sign the treaty but this desire is also governed by the national will, which are represented by demands that are still the point of dialogue between us and the American side.

We have made clear advances in many demands ... We reached agreements, that are considered important and crucial in Iraq, for the final withdrawal (of all US forces) by the end of 2011, and the withdrawal from (Iraqi) cities by June 30, 2009. Laying down rules for the movement of the forces and their activities and not to carry out military operations or arrests unless they have permission from the Iraqi Government ...

Like I said yesterday after I met Grand Ayatollah al-Sistani, there are obstacles along the road before signing the agreement in the near future.

We have presented a full view to the American side about these obstacles, which include the issue of legal sponsorship (Iraqi jurisdiction over US soldiers) and the issue of the inspection of weapons and machinery that come into Iraq to ensure that they are suitable for the security mission ?

By ? responding to the Iraqi demands we will be very close to signing the treaty, but if they (Americans) do not respond to them I believe that the treaty will go through difficult circumstances and may not get the approval of the Parliament ? Any agreement must be approved by Parliament, which has the final decision.

Is the biggest obstacle America's demand for immunity for its forces when they are not on duty?

Yes, yes definitely. If Iraqi and American soldiers move in an operation that is pre-agreed by both sides then they have the immunity unless he (an American soldier) commits a deliberate crime during the operation. He is just like the Iraqi solider in the operation. He has immunity...

The sticking point is about if the American soldier was not on a mission and commits a crime that is accountable to the Iraqi judicial system, whether small or big. The Iraqi judicial system should have jurisdiction over the American soldier. This is the point of difference.

Is Iran's open opposition to the agreement complicating the situation? Would you prefer if they did not interfere?

The Iranians have their own interests. They think that the agreement is a danger to their national security. So when they make a statement they do it to defend their interests and their policies. Also Syria, Saudi Arabia and other countries ? This does not affect much the pace of negotiations. In the first place, we do not want to jeopardise the security of these countries. The Iraqi constitution does not allow the Iraqi Government to grant permission to use Iraqi territory to harm the interests of neighbouring countries. Among the contents of the agreement is a specific section that prohibits interference in the interests of the neighbouring countries either politically or militarily. Therefore it is true that the Iranian statements may complicate? but this is an Iranian issue that has nothing to do with our decision as Iraqis in accepting or rejecting the agreement.

If the issue of immunity is not resolved how concerned are you that the treaty will not be signed by the end of the year?

Definitely if the Parliament rejects it then we will have to go to the United Nations which is a not a great choice for us or the Americans under the circumstances of the crisis at the Security Council. But we would have no choice because the American forces will lose their legal cover on December 31 ? If that happens, according to the international law, Iraqi law and American law, the US forces will be confined to their bases and have to withdraw from Iraq. We always say that a sudden withdrawal may harm security.

Which is more likely an extension by the Security Council or a Status of Forces Agreement?

I am talking about ambitions. I hope that the American side will respond positively to the modifications suggested by the Iraqi side so that we can sign the treaty which is the best (solution) for us.

I think the most likely thing is that the American side will respond positively to the modifications asked for by the Iraqi side, because they are realistic modifications that do not harm the existence of the forces but achieve important national interests for the Iraqi side.

What is the situation like in Basra? Is it stable are you happy with the arrangement?

Definitely the situation is very good in Basra at the moment. The security forces and the people of Basra are restoring life to the city. It is under full control. The process of reconstruction and the return to normal life has started ... Basra was almost out of Iraqi control had it not been for the efforts of the Iraqi forces. It was a risky mission but indicated the ability of the Iraqi army and police to plan and carry out big and successful operations.

Did you fear that it might not work, it would have been a blow to you as a leader? The stakes were very high.

The state is not defeated by gangs or militias. Maybe the battle will be take a long time with them. We planned for a long battle to drain their energy. But the quick and consecutive blows quickened the pace to end the battle in nine days. But it is not possible for a government with national and political will to be defeated by gangs and militias.

Were you disappointed that the British did not move faster to help? The Americans moved faster but the British took a week to join the fray.

This is a page that we have turned over. We don’t go back to evaluate the situation that happened and the reasons. It is over, thank God. It ended on the side of the Iraqi security forces.

What did you feel about the state that Basra had fallen into under Britain’s watch?

I stress that the circumstances of Basra are difficult. The British military doctrine may have been one of the reasons that prevented the spread of security. Because in Basra there was a mixture of factors causing instability on the security front: tribal factions, organised gangs, militias, political differences between the components of the provincial council.

The British were not able to resolve all of these issues or deal with them in a clear manner. Therefore when we entered Basra, we entered in many directions, we held reconciliations with the tribes, won the tribes to our side in the battle, which was not possible for the British ?

At the time Basra was not under control of the local government, but in the hands of the gangs and militias. The local government was just a screen. And didn’t have the ability to move or solve any security issue.

The British forces withdrew from the confrontation from inside the city to the area of the airport. They stayed away from the confrontation, which gave the gangs and the militias the chance to control the city.

At the time we were strongly pre-occupied with Baghdad and some other provinces, therefore our presence in Basra was not strong.

But when the British forces withdrew and the situation deteriorated so badly that corrupted youths were carrying swords and cutting the throats of women and children, the citizens of Basra called out for our help ? and we moved to regain the city?

The British forces did not have the capacity to do what the Iraqi forces did. For example, the British side found it absurd. They asked: 'Do you really want to go into this neighbourhood?'. And the military commanders answered yes. They said that this is insanity, because these neighbourhoods had lots of gangs and bombs and explosives. But the Iraqis are owners of the case and they did enter these neighbourhoods which were colonies for the militias.

In one neighbourhood they removed 730 roadside bombs.

The British military doctrine could not take such a risk and this is the difference between he who is fighting when he is the son of the neighbourhood and the country and those who are not from the area.

This did not happen in Basra alone. When Iraq’s sons intervened to confront (the militias) in al-Amara, the city was totally under the control of the militias and neither the British forces in the past nor the American forces later could take back the city until the Iraqi forces arrived. Also, in Sadr City in Baghdad and Sholia. For years the American forces were in charge of the security there. But they were unable to retrieve Sadr City. But when the Iraqi forces were determined they were able to do that.

That doesn’t mean that the coalition forces, Americans and the others, did not provide any help. They did provide help and their help was important. Especially in airplanes because we do not have fighter jets.

How did it make you feel when you heard about the deal that the British cut with the militias (in 2007)?

Of course we were not comfortable and we conveyed our discomfort and regarded it as the start a disaster. The disaster would have materialised, if we had not made the sacrifices. Had they told us that they wanted to do this [cut a deal] we would have consulted with them and come up with the best possible decision. But when they acted alone the problem happened.

Do you think the British withdrew from the city prematurely?

Very. Because the palaces where they were based were being shelled with mortars and missiles by the militias. When they withdrew from them we moved in. When I went to Basra I stayed at these palaces. Yes they shelled us a lot and people among us were killed. But if it was not for our going to Basra these palaces would have turned into camps for the gangs.

Why did Britain behave in this way?

I told you this was their military doctrine. Every army has a military doctrine.

How would you describe your relations now with the British, are they improved or are they still strained?

From our side what happened before will not affect a positive relationship between us and Britain or our desire is to have good relations in various fields, political, reconstruction, economic...

What happened does not affect Britain's positive role in participating in the downfall of (Saddam's) dictatorship. We recognise Britain's role in this.

Our relationship now is good and we are working to improve it further in other fields as we take over responsibility for security.

The Iraqi arena is open for British companies and British friendship, for economic exchange and positive cooperation in science and education.

We desire that our relationship with the countries that had a role in bringing down the dictatorship has a priority over those countries that supported the dictatorship.

Britain has a difficult legacy in Iraq. It established a Sunni monarch in Iraq, it put down a Shia revolt in the 1920s. I believe your grandfather was involved?

He was jailed twice by the British. He wrote important poetry about Britain, criticising British policy.

We should not allow ourselves to be controlled by what happened in the past ...Today people are motivated by common interest. And we do have common interests with various countries around the world, including Britain. We can correct the past with mutual interests and dialogue... Iraq is an old, civilised country and Britain is also a country well known for its long civilisation and democracy. This history can cooperate between the two countries to make a good relationship based on common interests.

British major-general is rewriting counter-insurgency strategy, what lessons can be learnt from Basra, what are the biggest mistakes that happened?

The military doctrine that they have and the complexities of Basra meant that they could not achieve anything ?

The lesson is that military force cannot resolve civilian and political problems ? Frankly we could not resolve the battle in Basra militarily alone but we used other factors that the British could not use. Like tribes. The relationship between the British and the tribes was not good. Or they had not paid attention to the tribes. The political powers and the parties also joined us in the battle. Before they had not supported the British side.

Also, from a military standpoint we were prepared to take risks and make big sacrifices. Perhaps the British forces were not as prepared to make such sacrifices ? We did not want to kill the other side, even the militias. We want to control the situation. Our principle is not to use deadly force because killing leaves orphans and widows and social problems...

For the first time the militias saw a true force confronting them. Before, the British forces would confront them (the militias) with sophisticated technology, like satellites, automatic weapons, aircraft and other advanced equipment. These are designed for confronting armies but not militias and people hiding in houses. Therefore the difference between what the Iraqi Army and the British Army did was that Iraqi soldiers entered the houses and entered small neighbourhoods and alleys and did not rely on technology and guided missiles, which had previously caused harm but not killed the gangsters.

What is security like in Iraq? Is al-Qaeda still active? Are there new forces trying to destablize the country?

Yes, the operations are going on and will keep going on ? Iraq has inherited problems from the former Baathist regime that has social troubles and gangs that work in kidnapping and robbery. There are also cases of tribal revenge between the people, and activities by al-Qaeda and the Baath party.

In our latest report today attacks in Baghdad and the provinces are down 90 % on last year. The question we ask ourselves is: ‘Is the situation now in most of the provinces an internationally acceptable norm?' The answer is 'yes’, except for Mosul which is still above the average and in some areas of Diyala (province)...

We have liberated the land from the control of al-Qaeda and the militias. Entire cities, provinces, and districts were under the control of the gangs, the militias, and al-Qaeda. The roads that connected Baghdad to the rest of the country were all under the control of the gangs, al-Qaeda, and the outlaws. This is over now. There remains al-Qaeda gangs in hiding, but they are very weak ? We concentrate on intelligence work. The raids on terrorist elements and the gangs are based on intelligence information. This needs time to wear them out and dismantle their cells that have started breaking down gradually.

Maybe there is a noticeable escalation in the recent period, involving sticky (magnet) bombs on the cars of some citizens or officials. This is connected to the atmosphere of the [status of forces] agreement and the dialogue. It is also connected to the US elections, and the upcoming Iraqi elections.

We have laid down security plans and measures to confront it and reduce its impact so that it doesn't go beyond the accepted limit.

Generally, the security situation is satisfactory and under control and is improving. Improving the security situation, is not only connected to the military and intelligence work, but also improving the economic side, the turn of the reconstruction wheel in Iraq, the national reconciliation that took place between the components of the Iraqi people. This is advancing in big steps and is the biggest of the factors supporting the security, military, and intelligence effort. So we have many factors moving in one direction. We believe that security is not achieved only by weapons and security forces, army, and police.

What about the talks about the status of forces agreement with the British?

Until now, they have not started. We are prepared to talk to them about Iraq’s need for a number of British soldiers for training and for technical purposes (to pass on technical expertise). We would like to conduct this dialogue if Britain has the desire to forge such a treaty to support the capabilities of the Iraqi army.

Why haven't those talks started yet?

I do not know why. We had decided to start them.

When Gordon Brown came here, he mentioned that there will be working groups to look at this issue.

That is what we agreed. May be the situation in Britain is one of the issues. Now that there are changes and political movement, which may have an effect? There are ministerial changes, elections, the international financial crisis, maybe they are connected.

The agreement was also that there would be a presence of British companies in Iraq across a broad scale which also did not happen. Today or tomorrow we are expecting a British power company to approach us on how to solve our electricity crisis. We welcomed them.

Is the presence of the (4,100) British troops no longer crucial for security in the south?

Definitely, the presence of this number of British soldiers is no longer necessary. We thank them for the role they have played, but I think that their stay is not necessary for maintaining security and control.

There might be a need for their expertise in training and some technical issues, yes, but as a fighting force, I do not think it is necessary.

What about Kirkuk, is this a serious problem facing your Government? The area is controlled by Kurdish militias, can you ever imagine re-imposing Government authority by force?

Kirkuk is a city that belongs to the federal government and is outside the boundaries of the Kurdistan region. The existence of any force that is not formal and governmental is considered, as you said, outside the legal rules and goes by the principle of militias. Kirkuk is a very sensitive area. Our opinion about Kirkuk is that it will not be solved by using force to impose a solution ... It is shared by Turkomans, Sunni Arabs, Kurds, and a small ratio of Christians?The only suitable solution, at this time, is to treat it as a special case, like being an independent region ...

The different ethnic groups accuse each other of bringing in people from outside the province and granting them residency. The province is under Kurdish control at the moment ? The others, the Turkomans and the Sunni Arabs, accuse the local government of manipulating the census and the figures? It is better to have a solution between the groups based on consensus?

Do you have any information about the fate of the 5 British hostages?

We had some information earlier, which was not certain, but now this source has dried up. We tried to follow up our lead with the British Embassy and the Coalition Forces, but it did not lead to any result. The search is still going on ?

What is going to happen at the end of the year if the talks on a status of forces agreement between Iraq and Britain aren’t finished?

Either the resolution will be extended by the Security Council, so they will have legal cover according to international law – and this seems to be unlikely at the moment. Or they lose will their legal cover and they have to leave Iraq.

What is the message you would like to give to the British Government? You said that you are ready to start talks but they have not started yet.

It’s a message of friendship and desire for cooperation in civilian, political, economic fields.

As for the British forces, to avoid reaching the critical deadline I wish for the negotiations between the two sides to start quickly to determine what elements of the force should remain and their specialities.

Do you think the British should reduce the size of their 4,100-strong force?

Definitely, there will not be any need for 4,000 troops. The size of the need is determined by the size of the required tasks. For example to train the naval force, how many forces do we need? I don’t know. Also, to train the 14th Division in Basra, how many do we need? (Training on) some technical issues about how to use weapons and equipment. This will be determined in the negotiations?

The Americans plan to leave the Republican Palace by the end of the year. Will you move your office there?

The palace will need more than a year for refurbishment. Our intention is that this will become the headquarters of the Government, the Cabinet and the offices attached to it. The Cabinet now is divided among many buildings. They will all gather in this palace when it is finished in a year or more.

Will the green zone be opened up?

Yes and we have a definite desire that the green zone at the beginning of next year will be open, but security precautions will be taken to guarantee continuing security. Keeping a green zone in Iraq and a red zone in Iraq is finished ? The whole of Baghdad must be green.

What about you personally, do you intend to stand for re-election next year?

I did not nominate myself previously so I won’t be doing it now. They chose me for this post?

If they chose you again would you accept?

It would be easier not to accept, but if the national interest requires, then I have to serve Iraq.

Do you enjoy this job?

Never.

What do you do for entertainment or relaxing?

Entertainment is rare in our lives in Iraq. I only do some light sports [at the gym].

A documentary will be broadcast this weekend about the execution of Saddam. It alleges that you pushed hard for a guilty verdict and the death sentence. You allegedly changed a judge at the last minute and then signed the death warrant. Are the allegations fair and do you have any regrets?

My signature to the death warrant was a legal procedure. The Prime Minister has to sign after the ruling of the court. My signature came after the court gave its ruling and was approved by the supreme appeal court. It has to be signed to be carried out.

I would like the documentary to bring a document or a witness saying that the Prime Minister has interfered or exercised pressure on a judge or a court.

In this place, the whole court committee was here at the night before they issued the sentence. They spoke a lot about the trial. When the meeting ended, before they stood to leave, they said that you have not asked about the sentence that will be issued to Saddam. I said that I will find out at the same time as all the other Iraqis tomorrow.

What happened after the execution should not have happened. But these are people who do not have experience in carrying out executions. This was a speciality of the Baath Party. His men were good at executing people quietly.

We were not happy with the way the sentence was carried out. Those who chanted were punished. There was no major violation apart from the chanting... We have punished those who chanted and they are now in jail.
(www.pukmedia.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 14, 2008 10:43 AM


Sara wrote:

I feel this is more serious a charge than the Ayers one.
You would do well to watch this youtube video.
Please.
Sara.

==

When Will The MSM Report On Obama's Support for Kenyan Tyrant Raila Odinga?
By Kerry Picket
October 12, 2008

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

While many in the media are accusing the McCain campaign of throwing everything they have at Barack Obama in the closing weeks of this presidential election cycle, other than Mark Hyman's Washington Times commentary today and World Net Daily's online coverage, little is being discussed about Obama's support of Kenya's tyrant Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

This popular internet video at 6:26 in cites Obama's connection and support for Odinga. An edited version of this internet video exists here and an Obama/Odinga on the campaign trail is here. All 3 video embeds are at Eyeblast.tv.

The Odinga association may be even more devastating than the Bill Ayers link, because Obama cannot make the "I was only eight years old when this bad stuff happened" excuse. Also, questions are being raised if Obama may have violated the Logan Act. Additionally, Odinga's thugs were involved in the slaughter of thousands of Kenyans.

Hyman's article in the Times says the following:
QUOTE:

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30. Mr. Odinga was a member of Parliament representing an area in western Kenya, heavily populated by the Luo tribe, and the birthplace of Barack Obama's father.

Initially, Mr. Odinga was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise.

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama's six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki. He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25. "The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials," Mr. Obama announced.
"Kenyans are now yearning for change," he declared. The intent of Mr. Obama's remarks and actions was transparent to Kenyans - he was firmly behind Mr. Odinga.

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama had met several times before the 2006 trip. Reports indicate Mr. Odinga visited Mr. Obama during trips to the U.S. in 2004, 2005 and 2006. Mr. Obama sent his foreign policy adviser Mark Lippert to Kenya in early 2006 to coordinate his summer visit. Mr. Obama's August trip coincided with strategizing by Orange Democratic Movement leaders to defeat Mr. Kibaki in the upcoming elections. Mr. Odinga represented the ODM ticket in the presidential race.

==end quote==

Author of "Obama Nation" Jerome Corsi was recently detained in Kenya and later deported. He was in the country promoting his book. While the western media covered Corsi's detainment and deportation, the bigger picture was ignored.

Why was the Odinga government protecting Obama to the point of attacking one lone American author? More importantly, the media needs to address this: How does a tyrant like Odinga benefit from an Obama presidency?

More videos on the Raila Odinga-Barack Obama relationship continue to spring up on the web. Many questions still remain unanswered. By omission, the main stream media is delinquent in covering this story, and it may already be dangerously too late.

- Kerry Picket is an Associate Producer At the Media Research Center's Eyeblast.tv

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kerry-picket/2008/10/12/when-will-msm-report-obamas-support-kenyan-tyrant-raila-odinga

How does a tyrant like Odinga benefit from an Obama presidency?

My Question: If Odinga decided to cleanse all the Christians/infidels from Kenya after Barack took office, is there an implicit understanding between the two that Obama would look the other way, like he said he would if there were a GENOCIDE in Iraq?

Sara.

-- October 14, 2008 10:50 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq strives to move beyond body count
Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:30am BST

By Missy Ryan

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - In five years of war, Iraq has been hostage to a parade of grim statistics: car bombs, corpses, cholera and refugees fleeing rampant bloodshed.

But as violence drops sharply and Iraq turns towards reconstruction, officials seize upon a more quotidian, yet scarcely less important, set of numbers: economic output, employment, childhood vaccinations and even the whereabouts of Iraq's war-weary population.

The U.S. government, World Bank and other donors have backed efforts in recent years to help Iraqi's statistics agency, COSIT, get a better grasp of the country's vital figures.

"A government without statistics is like a traveller without a path," Mehdi al-Alak, who heads COSIT, the Central Organisation for Statistics and Information Technology, said last week as Iraq launched its first five-year statistical plan.

Iraq needs urgently to provide reliable, timely statistics, especially on the economy, to lure in investment, resurrect tattered infrastructure and broaden growth in a bid to stave off a resurgence in violence.

That is especially important as the burgeoning global economic crisis casts a dark shadow across the Middle East and fragile Iraq.

In the most recent World Bank ranking of national statistics capacity, Iraq scored 51 on a scale of 100, in between Tonga and Samoa. For a relatively developed country, strategically located in the Middle East and sitting atop the world's third largest oil reserves, that's not good enough.

Economists complain the government uses outdated data to calculate inflation, just one shortcoming. The population is believed to be about 28 million, but there has been no census since 1997.

Jorge Thompson Araujo, lead economist for Iraq at the World Bank, said that in the 1970s and 80s, Iraq was ahead of the curve in statistics practise. That changed after years of sanctions and isolation under Saddam Hussein's iron rule.

"Under the repressive regime, people did not have the incentive to produce statistics the regime didn't want to hear. Iraq got stuck in time," he said.

TOO DANGEROUS

Certainly, the catastrophic violence that has plagued Iraq since 2003 has hindered the government's basic data collection.

"Like other institutions, we suffered from the security situation, especially since our work is in the field," Alak said. With giant car bombs and mortar fire rocking Baghdad daily, Iraq decided to postpone a census due in 2007, and it is now scheduled for October 2009.

"It was too dangerous. Your census-takers would have been killed," said Farid Matuk, a former chief statistician for Peru who now advises COSIT in Baghdad as part of a $300-million (171.6 million pound) U.S. project which aims to improve Iraqi administration.

Iraq's high rate of internal displacement -- people moving house or city to escape violence -- presents another challenge.

At least four million Iraqis are believed to have fled the country or moved to different parts of Iraq.

But Iraq is moving to correct these weaknesses, the International Monetary Fund noted in a recent report.

Earlier this year, the government began conducting quarterly surveys of 20,000 households that seek to provide a snapshot of employment and economic activity, one of the largest such surveys in the developing world, Matuk said.

A household survey, backed by the World Bank, is expected later this year and will provide insight into poverty in Iraq.

"In the last few years we have seen a marked improvement, but it is still far from ideal," Araujo said.

Among what is needed is a more accurate picture of economic activity outside the oil sector, he said, a task that is hindered by the country's large informal economy -- people selling cigarettes or sweets on the street, for example.

A MORE CLEAR PICTURE?

As violence drops to four-year lows, Iraq needs investment in oil works, electricity, industry and services.

A wave of foreign investment that Washington has been hoping for since 2003 has yet to materialise. While security remains without a doubt the top concern for prospective investors, more reliable economic data would certainly help.

"No investor will come to Iraq if they do not have correct and exact numbers," said Ali Baban, Iraq's planning minister.

Matuk expects the government will adopt a plan to triple COSIT's budget and staff over five years.

Accurate figures are also needed as Iraq, led by a Sunni Arab minority until Saddam's regime was toppled in 2003, struggles for political and sectarian reconciliation.

Violence began to drop last year, thanks to a boost in U.S. troops, the decision from former Sunni insurgents to join local policing efforts, and a cease-fire among Shi'ite militiamen.

But political reconciliation is proving more elusive. The Shi'ite-led government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is struggling to foster cooperation among politicians and build trust among warring ethnic and religious groups.

Some $100 million has been set aside already for the 2009 census, Matuk said: that may shed light on which groups hold majorities in sensitive areas of the country, such as the disputed city of Kirkuk.

"Maybe this information will be a path so every Iraqi entity knows its size, its ability. I think this is part of the path towards national reconciliation," Baban said.

-- October 14, 2008 6:03 PM


mattuk wrote:

DNO shares halted after jump on Iraq permit report
Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:16pm BST

OSLO, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Trading of shares in Norwegian oil company DNO International (DNO.OL: Quote, Profile, Research) surged more than 43 percent on Tuesday after a report from Dow Jones newswires said Iraq's government was about to issue a long-awaited export licence.

Shares in DNO surged to 5.40 crowns before cooling off slightly, but were still up 40.65 percent at 5.19 crowns when they were suspended on a steeply rising Oslo bourse .

The report, citing unnamed oil industry sources, said the Baghdad central government would allow the Iraqi Kurdistan region to export crude oil from DNO's Tawke field through Turkey.

Up to now DNO has sold the Tawke oil on the domestic market, which is less lucrative than exporting it.

DNO Chief Executive Helge Eide was not immediately available for comment, but a spokesman said that the company would have followed its policy to inform the Oslo Stock Exchange if it had any new information to report.

(Reporting by Aasa Christine Stoltz and Richard Solem)

-- October 14, 2008 6:09 PM


mattuk wrote:

Iraqi minister meets oil companies in London

Yesterday, 11:38 pm
13th October 2008

Iraq's Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani met officials from 35 oil companies in London Monday to lay out details of its first round of bidding for new contracts since the 2003 US-led invasion. Skip related content
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He said Iraq wants deals to be in place in June, to help the war-torn country get its oil sector back up and running without further delay.

Shahristani said the government would maintain 51 percent control of projects with foreign energy companies to rehabilitate the six oil fields already producing crude, and two natural gas fields yet to be developed.

Iraq wants to ramp up output by 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) from the current average production of 2.5 million bpd, about equal to the amount being pumped before the March 2003 invasion.

Exports of 2.11 million bpd currently form the bulk of the country's revenues, and the oil ministry is keen to raise capacity over the next five years to 4.5 million bpd.

At the end of June, the oil ministry threw open six oilfields and two gas fields for international bidding by 41 companies.

The deals, which are service contracts only, pave the way for energy firms based abroad to return to Iraq 36 years after Saddam Hussein threw them out.

The International Energy Agency, in a report released in mid-2006, said only 10 percent of Iraq has been explored for oil and 60 percent of proven reserves are in undeveloped fields.

This report was complied with Dow Jones newswire.

-- October 14, 2008 6:14 PM


Sara wrote:

Carl and Board;

Carl, you once spoke about how important it is for people to be informed about the issues at stake and stop wasting time, such as watching "American Idol", you said, and you related a conversation you heard to illustrate that topic. This struck me as a somewhat similar issue to that post, and I thought you would appreciate the nuance involved in it:

===

Howard Stern Exposes Why So Many People Support Obama
By Noel Sheppard
October 13, 2008

Although I imagine most conservatives aren't fans of radio shock jock Howard Stern, the following must-see video (must-hear audio, really!) exposes the dirty little secret about why so many folks are supporting Barack Obama (hint -- it has NOTHING to do with his policy positions, h/t Larwyn):

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

Frankly, Stern could have sent folks out to most newsrooms in America and gotten the same responses!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/13/howard-stern-exposes-why-so-many-people-support-obama

-- October 15, 2008 2:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura and Board;

In light of recent conversations we have had off Board in which I indicated to you my continued belief that Obama will not attain to the Whitehouse, I thought this worth a mention for you and the Board to consider..

Once again.. please notice.. the ONLY reason the MSM sees that Obama would be voted against.. is RACE, not issues. In light of Stern's commentary (above post and youtube to Carl), that is interesting..

Despite the lack of empirical evidence, the Bradley effect lives on..." this article says. Maybe, just like with Bradley (see Ken Khachigian's comments below) the total lack of empirical evidence shows us, it really isn't race after all.

Sara.

===

Will the Bradley Effect Be Obama's Downfall?
Worries Rise That Questions of Race Overstate Obama's 10-Point Lead
A look at how race may become the "elephant in the room" this election.
By JOHN BERMAN
Oct. 14, 2008

With the economic crisis center stage, Barack Obama has solidified his lead, pulling ahead of John McCain by 10 points among likely voters, 53-43 percent, in a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll.

But the question remains: Is that margin enough?

"We've seen these types of leads disappear at election time," said Michael Dawson, professor of political science at the University of Chicago.

The concern is particularly at play for black candidates. It is called the Bradley effect, named after former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, an African-American, after he ran for California governor in 1982. Some pre-election polls showed Bradley with a lead of 9 points or higher; but Bradley lost to Republican George Deukmejian by a little more than a point.

Some analysts suggest that voters will tell pollsters one thing, because they don't want to seem prejudiced, and vote differently.

"When you are in the voting booth, nobody is there and you can express what you really believe," Dawson explained.

Across the country, many voters expect that Obama's race will be a factor in the election.

"My father is kind of a racist guy," said one voter from South Carolina. "He's not going to vote for someone who's even light-skinned."

But the Bradley effect points to race being a bigger factor. It says voters are misleading pollsters, but some experts said there is simply no reliable evidence to prove that...

"When a pre-election poll goes bad, usually the reason is it made a bad estimate of who was going to show up to vote, not that its respondents lied," Langer explained.

Ken Khachigian, who ran the campaign that defeated Bradley, said that the candidate's loss was about absentee ballots, not latent racism.

"There were well over several tens of thousands of absentee ballots that no exit poll would ever pick up because absentee balloting was not a big deal back in 1982, so they missed all of those," Khachigian said.

Despite the lack of empirical evidence, the Bradley effect lives on, fueling anxiety and nervousness among many Democrats that Obama's lead will disappear on Election Day.

But as the old adage in polling goes, the only votes that count will be the ones cast Nov. 4.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6031233&page=1

-- October 15, 2008 2:45 AM


Sara wrote:

Lastly, this super American Conservative.. who also happens to be African-American, put it so well that you just have to view his wonderful 'zinger' of an interview which aired on CNN. He explains that it is ISSUES not race which causes him to support McCain, and when the point comes across crystal clear, the commentator shuts him down and signs off, rather than lose more ground to the TRUTH.

===

CNN to black McCain supporter: Um, why aren’t you backing Obama?
October 13, 2008
by Allahpundit

Specifically, why isn’t he backing him “in light of what’s happened” to the campaign’s tone? Is he really going to tolerate McCain reminding America that The One had no moral objection to associating with domestic terrorists? According to the media, that’s practically race treason.

In case you don’t know who Harris is, you’ll find an explanation below the clip. Exit question: Did CNN pause, even for a moment, while sifting those e-mails Lemon reads at the beginning to savor the irony of complaining about conservatives’ tone here?

SEE: http://www.cnn.com/video/?JSONLINK=/video/politics/2008/10/13/lemon.us.mccain.supporter.harris.cnn

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/cnn-to-black-mccain-supporter-um-why-arent-you-backing-obama/

-- October 15, 2008 3:03 AM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq makes historic return to oil sales as PM calls for British troops to leave
Iraq has moved to put itself at the centre of the global oil industry as it launches its first sale of production rights to Western companies at a summit in London.

By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 6:40PM BST 13 Oct 2008

The recent drop in violence across Iraq has increased the prospects of Baghdad doubling its oil output by 2012 by allowing foreign investors to bring the most advanced production techniques to the war-torn country.

Iraq was at the forefront of world-wide oil production until the Ba'athist regime nationalised the industry in the 1970s. Although Saddam Hussein made deals with French, Russian and Chinese oil companies in the 1990s, United Nations sanctions barred the country's re-emergence as a leading source of energy supplies.

Representatives of 35 companies have been given six months to apply for a 20-year right to operate oilfields that hold up to 40 per cent of the country's 115 barrels of proven reserves. Hussain al-Shahristani, Iraq's Minister for Oil, convened the meeting at a Park Lane hotel in central London. Aides said the location was deliberately chosen to demonstrate that Iraq had shed its old pre-occupations about foreign powers dominating the industry, which generates ninety per cent of its annual income.

A British firm is acting as Baghdad's strategic advisor as it overhauls its most important asset. The firm, Gaffney, Cline and Associates, was responsible for a presentation given by Mr Shahristani to the executives. The major British oil firms BP and Shell are seen as leading contenders to gain access to the six major oil fields and two gas fields on offer.

Baghdad hopes to sign the final agreements by next June, months before the country's ruling coalition of Shia and Kurdish parties face the second democratic general election since the 2003 campaign to depose Saddam. But the exercise has kicked-off without a final agreement on a national oil law, a key measure that Baghdad has been under immense pressure to enact.

Enthusiastic bidding despite a recent drop in oil prices would translate into a political windfall for the government. "International interest will be extremely high," said Muhammad-Ali Zainy, senior analyst at the Center for Global Energy Studies in London. "The Iraqi oil industry has been stagnant – and has actually been deteriorating – and it's time to open it to foreign direct investment."

Shell became the first big British oil company to open an office in Baghdad last month. In a signal it had Baghdad's seal of approval, the company was granted a £2 billion deal to modernise an existing gas field.

Critics of the war suggested yesterday's conference represented the breakthrough America and Britain had sought at the outset of the war, a claim that ignored China's equally strong position in the pursuit of Iraqi resources. China has already secured a £1.78 billion deal to renew an agreement it signed with Saddam under sanctions.

Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq's prime minister, declared the country was keen to deepen its economic co-operation with British companies despite his call for UK troops to withdraw from the Iraqi frontline by the end of the year. "Definitely, the presence of this number of British soldiers is no longer necessary," he said. "We thank them for the role they have played, but I think that their stay is not necessary for maintaining security and control."

Mr Maliki said differences over British forces failure to control violence in Basra would not affect overall ties between Baghdad and London. "Our relationship now is good and we are working to improve it further in other fields as we take over responsibility for security," he said. "The Iraqi arena is open for British companies and British friendship, for economic exchange and positive cooperation in science and education."
Source: The Daily Telegraph newspaper. England

-- October 15, 2008 5:07 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Irbil bourse could overshadow ISX

To soon to be opened Irbil Stock Exchange in Iraqi Kurdistan risks overshadowing its sibling in Baghdad, the Iraq Stock Exchange, that opened in 2004.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

More evidence of Al-Malaki being caught in the middle.
__________________________________________________________
Maliki sends SOFA to parliament to evade Iranian, US pressures, says MP 15/10/2008 14:59:00

Baghdad (NINA) –Legislator of the Kurdistani Islamic Union Sami al-Atroushi described the decision of Premier Nouri al-Maliki to refer the Status of Forces Agreement SOFA to parliament as an attempt to evade what he called "Iranian and American pressure.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:21 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US open to explore the idea of Mideast regional organization

Politics 10/15/2008 1:11:00 PM



By Joe Macaron WASHINGTON, Oct 15 (KUNA) -- In a first public reaction to Bahrain's proposal to form a new regional organization in the Middle East, the United States seemed on Wednesday open to explore an idea that has yet to be vetted and framed to quell disputes in a troubled part of the world. "The proposal is an indication of the seriousness and the positive spirit with which the Bahraini Foreign Minister views the many important issues we face together in the region", said a senior US official who spoke to KUNA on condition of anonymity.
"It is now the time to consider the possibility of establishing an organization that would include all states in the Middle East, without exception, to discuss long-standing issues openly and frankly, in the hope of reaching a stable and durable understanding between all parties", noted Bahrain's Foreign Minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa in a speech on September 27 before the United Nations' General Assembly in New York.
"We worked very closely with the government of Bahrain on all regional issues of mutual concern and we look forward to hearing additional development of this idea from Bahrain and from our other friends in the region", added the US official.
Few days after his speech, Al Khalifa affirmed in a published interview that Israel, Iran and Turkey are included in this regional organization "even if we do not recognize each other", since this would be "the only path to solve our problems", and raised the question, "why not become one organization to overcome this difficult phase?". "Any effort to build a relationship in the region is welcomed, it was a very thoughtful statement made by the Bahrain Foreign Minister at the United Nations", echoed Deputy Assistant Secretary for Near East Affairs Kent Patton in a separate interview with KUNA.
Former State Department official and an expert at the Middle East Institute Ambassador Richard Murphy told KUNA that this proposal "is one more evidence of thinking underway in the region about how to bring greater stability".
Yet, the same contentious issues that are inspiring this idea could also hinder it, from the nature of the Arab Israeli conflict, the Iranian nuclear file, and not ending with the stability of Iraq.
"It would be a wonderful idea if the Iranians were indeed constructive and cooperative in such organizations, Arab countries should put efforts to include Tehran", said Deputy director of research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy Patrick Clawson in an interview with KUNA.
"Iran has a history of trying to dominate organizations to which it belongs", he added while Murphy noted.
Syria and Israel are involved in negotiations under Turkish auspices, indirect talks now set aside until a new government is formed in Israel. Arab and Iranian relations are also another challenge, mainly because of the nuclear file and the developments in the Levant area.
Clawson described the idea as "intriguing" and observed that this new organization "is probably less important for the Gulf countries and more important to the Levant area".
Ambassador Murphy observed that "Turkey has a relation with Iran, which is not close or at least correct" and noted "if the organization becomes a reality, it would be a forum in which adversaries could present their ideas directly to those they still have no dialogue with".
"The only organization which has brought Syria and Israel in the same public forum is the Barcelona group", said Murphy.
Similar forums have been already put forward in the last two decades. Euro-Mediterranean Partnership or the Barcelona process, that started in November 1995, did not provide a common strategic vision. French President Nicolas Sarkozy convened in July 2008 a Mediterranean Union that many experts argue could overlap with the Barcelona process. Both Syrian President Bashar Assad and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert attended, but managed to avoid any direct encounter. Bahrain's proposal also addresses the crucial question of whether the international community should engage with Syria and Iran.
"There have been a big debate in the US presidential elections about whether to engage or not with countries we have profound difference with", observed Clawson.
"In order for the Middle East to live in a stable and lasting peace, it is incumbent on us to review and reevaluate our regional outlook and the possibility of developing new regional frameworks to overcome our long-standing challenges", said Al-Khalifa in his speech.
"Whether Bahrain takes the lead or just table the idea, that remains to be seen", argued Murphy.
"The eventual solution to the disagreement in the area must come from the region, those of us outside the region can perhaps help but we cannot create an atmosphere where these very sensitive issues are discussed and negotiated", he added.
Clawson said, "If implemented in the short period, this idea would give a boost on several fronts towards addressing problems in the region" but Murphy disagreed.
"No, it cannot be done in a hurry in the short term, Washington is in transition, the current US Administration would not be interested in including Iran", concluded the former US official.(end) jm.asa KUNA 151311 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:24 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi PM urges regional anti-terror cooperation

Politics 10/15/2008 1:00:00 AM



(With photos) BAGHDAD, Oct 14 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Tuesday called for regional cooperation among neighboring countries to fight terrorist organizations at frontier areas.
Al-Maliki made the call during a meeting with visiting Turkish Deputy Foreign Minister Murat Ozcelik.
Al-Maliki voiced Iraq's dismay at the rebel PKK's "terrorist acts" against Turkey.
He called for putting in place bilateral agreements between Iraq and Turkey in the security, military and economic fields in the interest of both countries.
For his part, the Turkish official showed his country's desire to take stauncher action against the PKK in north Iraq.
He laid it bare that major Turkish companies operating in Iraq; especially electricity ones, would convene an extended conference early November.
Earlier in the day, Ozcelik met Iraqi Kurdistan Regional President Masud Barzani in Baghdad. (end) ahh.mt KUNA 150100 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:26 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Baghdad pipe plan remains a dream
By Carola Hoyos in London and Dan Dombey

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Washington, 15 October 2008 (Financial Times)

When Iraq’s oil minister began negotiations this week that could lead to the first significant foreign investments in his country for more than three decades, he pointed out Iraq’s potential to become one of the world’s most important oil suppliers.

But, as Hussein Shahristani laid out details of the 20-year production contracts his country was willing to offer, to international companies, US officials and a handful of oil men worried that Iraq’s oil exports could almost completely collapse before his ambitions are realised.

The underwater pipelines that pump nearly 2m barrels a day into waiting tankers at Iraq’s Gulf coast export point are so corroded that a US government report has said they are in danger of failing at any time.

People close to Iraq’s oil industry worry that the country’s weak political infrastructure could delay repairs for years and might happen only once the broad and complicated plan to boost the country’s oil production – with the help of international companies – is under way.

Iraq, which holds the world’s third-largest oil reserves, plans to more than double its output to 4.5m barrels a day in five years and reach 6m barrels a day in a decade.

But a report by Foster Wheeler, a US engineering group, says the first stage of this plan would require a complete overhaul of the country’s southern port, including dredging deeper shipping channels, building new pipelines, erecting storage tanks able to hold 18m barrels of oil and constructing facilities so large that Iraq would first need to resolve its long-running maritime border dispute with Iran and Kuwait.

The report, seen by the Financial Times, states: “One of the most significant findings from the study relates to the international boundaries between Iraq, Iran and Kuwait, particularly offshore.”

If Iraq had to build its export facilities entirely in the narrow sliver of its own waters, channels would have to be dredged to allow large tankers to navigate, the area would be highly congested and the type of moorings needed would severely limit future expansion prospects, the report says. This would represent a significant drawback in view of Iraq’s potential to increase production.

Mr Shahristani told the FT: “We definitely need new oil terminals in addition to rehabilitating existing ones.”

He said that a new single-point mooring would be available in two years, but that a new terminal would “take a bit longer”.

Many consultants and oil company executives doubt Iraq will be able to achieve its ambitious deadlines for the ports and for achieving production increases. Any setbacks will extend the period during which Iraq will be forced to rely on its fragile export pipelines, which have already lasted for decades longer than intended.

They point out that negotiations with international oil companies, such as BP and ExxonMobil, on two-year service contracts that would have given Iraq’s struggling fields their first production boost, have collapsed.

The long-term contracts being negotiated this week are also fraught with difficulty, not least because they are being discussed without the backdrop of an oil law, which executives say is critical to their decision on whether to invest large amounts in upgrading Iraq’s oil industry. Entering into a contract with the Iraqi government without such a legal framework could lead to future disputes.

One consultant who has worked closely on the issue said the attitude among some Iraqi officials was that the country had managed to keep its dilapidated industry working through three wars, more than a decade of sanctions and the more recent post-war hostilities. There was, therefore, no reason why they could not continue holding it together with “chewing gum and string”.

One senior Iraqi oil official acknowledged that the pipelines were rickety but pointed out that the US, during more than a decade of sanctions and wars, had made things worse rather than better.

US officials are similarly aware that Washington would be widely blamed for any pipeline break and have pushed Mr Shahristani to speed up his efforts.

Mr Shahristani himself is keen to show he is making progress. But, by pressing on with contract negotiations without focusing on the critical, but less glamorous, task of fixing equipment, he would be taking a serious gamble.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:29 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US, Iraq agree on draft security pact over troops

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Washington, 15 October 2008 (Associated Press)

US and Iraqi negotiators have agreed on a draft security pact that would govern the presence of American troops in Iraq after January, Bush administration officials say, but its final approval is far from certain.

The draft calls for US troops to pull out of Iraqi cities by the end of June next year and leave Iraq by December 31, 2011, unless the Baghdad government asks them to stay.

It also includes a compromise on the biggest bone of contention: legal immunity for American forces, according to the officials.

The draft, reached after months of halting and often tense talks, contains elements that are expected to further aggravate an already difficult effort to get the Iraqi government and parliament on board, the officials said.

It also may draw objections from US lawmakers, whose support is not legally required but is considered essential to the eventual success of any deal, according to the officials.

However, the negotiating teams have decided they cannot improve on the proposal and have sent it to higher-ups for a political decision as time runs out on both the Bush administration and the UN mandate under which US troops now operate, which expires on December 31, they say.

Without an agreement soon, the officials said Tuesday that the two sides will have to begin to look more seriously at alternatives that include extending the UN authority, which is fraught with complications.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi Kurds meet Turkish delegation in Baghdad

Published: October 14, 2008, 21:41

Baghdad: Iraq's senior Kurdish leader met with Turkish officials on Tuesday in Baghdad, a news agency reported, the first direct talks between the two sides in four years.

The meeting between Kurdish regional president Masoud Barzani and a Turkish envoy occurred as tensions are high after Kurdish rebels killed 17 Turkish soldiers on the Turkey-Iraq border earlier this month.

Turkish warplanes have been bombing Kurdish rebel hideouts across the border in northern Iraq since an October 3 attack by PKK militants against a Turkish border outpost that killed 17 soldiers and has been pressuring them to cut supply lines to the rebels and arrest and hand over rebel leaders.

The meeting, which was held in the US-protected Green Zone, lasted about two hours, Turkey's state-run Anatolia news agency reported.


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Turkey's special envoy for Iraq Murat Ozcelik was quoted as saying the talks were held in a "positive atmosphere" and that Turkey had communicated to the other side its suggestions concerning security.

The Baghdad meeting comes after President Abdullah Gul said the Turkish government would talk with Iraqi Kurds to resolve the problem, in line with a longstanding call from northern Iraq's regional Kurdish government.

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Attaakhi newspaper, owned by Barzani's ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party, on Tuesday welcomed what it called a policy shift.

"This is an important change in Turkey's policy because the government has always refused to hold direct dialogue with our government regarding cooperation and border issues to contain the PKK."

Ankara has routinely accused Iraqi Kurds, who run the autonomous region, of tolerating, or even aiding the rebels, and long refused to hold discussions with Barzani's administration.

Iraqi authorities have pledged efforts to curb the PKK, but say the group's hideouts are located in inhospitable mountains.

A spokesman for the semiautonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq, Fouad Hussain, said earlier that the meeting was being held to discuss bilateral relations.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 15, 2008 9:35 AM


Sara wrote:

Board;

You know, I was perfectly willing for God to say that Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama would be the next President when I asked Him who would next be President. Instead, He told me the next President would be a Democrat, but neither of those two candidates. That puzzled me until I learned that McCain had indeed been seriously considered to be John Kerry's Democrat running mate during the last electoral campaign. Then I asked the Lord if that meant that John McCain was the one God had chosen to lead America, and He said yes. So it wasn't that I had a preconceived notion toward McCain at that time. I knew little about him or Obama. But, since learning of God's choice I now can see why He chose this man to the highest office of the land. He is the best man for the job with the proper credentials to lead the country in a time of war (the War on Terror). I feel that if Obama were to attain to the Whitehouse, it is obvious to those of us of faith that such a man - whose FIRST order of business would be to enact more killing of babies - would evidence the hand of God in judgement and destruction toward the United States.

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Ad: Obama and abortion
October 13, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The Family Research Council takes aim at the Matthew 25 PAC that has tried to sell Barack Obama to evangelicals. In their new advertisement, the FRC notes that Obama himself has described his enactment of the Freedom of Choice Act as his “top priority” as President:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__ctD48nfQ

The FOCA would undo many of the restrictions on abortion at the federal and state level. That’s not an analysis from anti-abortion advocates, but from pro-abortion activists like NOW and Planned Parenthood. It’s a radical departure from the current, more moderate status quo and a large leap to the left on abortion:

It’s quite telling that Obama declared this his top priority — not terrorism, not national security, not the financial crisis, although I believe this quote came before most people knew we were heading into one. Obama is, simply put, the most radical major-party nominee for President in decades, and perhaps ever, on this issue. Evangelicals who get lulled into thinking of Obama as a moderate because of his mellifluous speaking voice would find themselves in for a rude awakening after January if he were to win.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/ad-obama-and-abortion/

This shows us how FAR LEFT Obama truly is. But it isn't just this one issue. Obama's policies would set a wrong direction during this time of war and his inexperience would result in many more casualties. Certainly, his recently saying he differs with McCain and would enact future draft legislation which drafts women into combat roles is something which gave me pause for consideration. (I think it is important to WIN a war, not just throw more people into it to become casualties of war.) Along with his pledge to step up the fighting in Afghanistan and the military saying they need more troops there.. Well, young men being sent into battle is one thing, but silly young high school aged 18 year old girls whose last concerns were nailpolish, wardrobe and hair fixtures.. along with boyfriends and text messaging.. just doesn't ring true as a wise strategy for winning at war.

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Candidates differ on female draft
Monday, October 13, 2008
By Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Even as the U.S. confronts two long wars, neither Sen. John McCain nor Sen. Barack Obama believes the country should take the politically perilous step of reviving the military draft.

But the two presidential candidates disagree on a key foundation of any future draft: Mr. Obama supports a requirement for both men and women to register with the Selective Service, while Mr. McCain doesn't think women should have to register.

Also, Mr. Obama would consider officially opening combat positions to women. Mr. McCain would not.

"Women are already serving in combat [in Iraq and Afghanistan] and the current policy should be updated to reflect realities on the ground," said Wendy Morigi, Mr. Obama's national security spokeswoman. "Barack Obama would consult with military commanders to review the constraints that remain."

According to his campaign, Mr. McCain supports the current Department of Defense restrictions on women in combat units, including armor, field artillery and special forces.

In 1980, President Jimmy Carter revived the Selective Service system, which compiles a list of nearly all men in the U.S. between 18 and 25 in case a crisis forces the government to undertake a massive expansion of the military.

Both Congress and the Supreme Court have exempted women from registration because of the combat rules.

For years, that position has rankled some women's rights groups..

"Sen. McCain strongly believes that an all-volunteer force is preferable to a conscripted force," said Paul Lindsay, a spokesman for the campaign. "The tools available to recruiters have historically enabled the all-volunteer force to attract sufficient numbers of qualified recruits."

His views are echoed by many high-ranking officers in the military, who prefer a force of motivated volunteers. But some of the same officers have also expressed concerns about the strains of more than six years of sustained combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, especially if the U.S. commitment in both countries doesn't end in the near future.

Mr. Obama has said repeatedly that he will draw down the U.S. military presence in Iraq if he becomes president, but he has also said he would increase the number of troops in Afghanistan, where Taliban forces have seen a resurgence in recent years.

During a CNN/YouTube debate for Democratic presidential candidates last year, he said he doesn't "agree" with the draft.

But he did say women should be expected to register with the Selective Service, comparing the role of women to black soldiers and airmen who served during World War II, when the armed forces were still segregated.

"There was a time when African-Americans weren't allowed to serve in combat," Mr. Obama said. "And yet, when they did, not only did they perform brilliantly, but what also happened is they helped to change America, and they helped to underscore that we're equal.

"And I think that if women are registered for service -- not necessarily in combat roles, and I don't agree with the draft -- I think it will help to send a message to my two daughters that they've got obligations to this great country as well as boys do."

Elaine Donnelly, a former member of President Bill Clinton's Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces, dismissed Mr. Obama's comparison of the roles of women and black soldiers, arguing that males and females, in general, aren't equal on the battlefield.

"There are differences between men and women where physical strength is an issue," said Ms. Donnelly, who heads the nonpartisan Center for Military Readiness. "There are a lot of civilian feminists who are making unreasonable demands on the military."

Nancy Duff Campbell, co-president of the National Women's Law Center, argues that women should have a chance to compete for any position in the armed forces.

"I hope a new president will revisit the restrictions," she said.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/919582-470.stm?cmpid=elections.xml

QUOTES:

"I hope a new president will revisit the restrictions," she said.
Barack Obama would consult with military commanders to review the constraints that remain."

In light of Obama's far left position on abortion and his being the farthest left of ANY Democrat.. and these promises of "reviewing the constraints which remain" along with the statement from above of, quote, Mr. Obama would consider officially opening combat positions to women. Mr. McCain would not...

If Obama felt he had to "prove" his credentials as C-in-C and truly ramp up the war in Afghanistan (as he has said he would) or deal with the Iranian nuclear threat using force, I can forsee that under Obama there could easily be another flip-flop on this issue in order to appease the feminists. Certainly, he does not take middle American values (which see innate or Creator-given "inequalities") seriously in this regard. His quest for "equality" - be it black with white OR female with male - will certainly influence how he would hear such a plea from feminists wanting no restrictions on combat roles for women. Couple that with the likelihood of a draft, and I think we see a recipe brewing for disaster. I believe the only reason he tempers his remarks in saying it would just be "registering" now, and not combat.. is to woo the right-of-center voters. After all, just like he did in the past with seeking to ban handguns (but now that changed and he says he supports the right to bear arms) he wants to appear to support the values of those he wishes to vote for him.. until he gets in, of course. At which point, that would all change.

So when I see the polices he has fllipped on.. (genocide, gun rights, campaign finance, abortion - "above my pay grade", etc, etc), it is no small concern to see him aiming at transforming the military into an "equal opportunity employer" - or drafter, as the case may be. And under his inept foreign expertise, I can see that America would need both males and females to fill the reams and reams of casualty lists his policies would enact in the future. I therefore endorse McCain as the only possible Commander-in-Chief and I think that the public, likewise, would be wise to consider the futures of their sons and daughters and do the same.

Certainly, no one can say that under Obama this "worst case scenerio" cannot occur, in light of his policy views on women and combat roles and his inexperience in foreign affairs during a drawn out war (the War on Terror). Couple this with Iran's arming themselves with nukes (article above, within the next two years), and a continuing war commitment to Iraq and Afghanistan, and it becomes very plausible. It solves the problem (getting recruits) and appeases his far left feminist base.. why wouldn't he do it once he has the power to do so?

Question: Would drafting young teenaged women into combat roles HELP the military and war effort, in your opinion?

Sara.

-- October 15, 2008 1:51 PM


Sara wrote:

US troops kill No. 2 leader of al-Qaida in Iraq
By KIM GAMEL
Oct 15, 2008

BAGHDAD - American troops acting on a tip killed the No. 2 leader of al-Qaida in Iraq — a Moroccan known for his ability to recruit and motivate foreign fighters — in a raid in the northern city of Mosul, the U.S. military said Wednesday.

The military statement described the man, known as Abu Qaswarah, as a charismatic leader who had trained in Afghanistan and managed to rally al-Qaida followers in Iraq despite U.S. and Iraqi security gains.

U.S. troops killed Abu Qaswarah, also known as Abu Sara, on Oct. 5 after coming under fire during a raid on a building that served as an al-Qaida in Iraq "key command and control location for" in Mosul, the military said.

Abu Qaswarah — one of five insurgents killed — was later been positively identified, the military said, without elaborating.

The insurgent leader became the senior al-Qaida in Iraq emir of northern Iraq in June 2007 and had "historic ties to AQI founder Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and senior al-Qaida leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan," the military said.

It called him "al-Qaida in Iraq's second-in-command" as the senior operational leader for al-Zarqawi's successor, Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir.

A recent series of killings of Iraqi Christians in Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, has highlighted the continued dangers in northern Iraq, where many insurgents fled intensive U.S. military operations in the capital and surrounding areas.

The number of Christian families fleeing violence in Mosul since last week has reached 1,390 — or more than 8,300 people, local migration official Jawdat Ismaeel said Wednesday.

Ismaeel said humanitarian teams are distributing food and aid materials to all displaced families, who are largely seeking refuge in nearby Christian-dominated towns and villages.

Driscoll said the attacks against the Christians bore the hallmarks of a "typical al-Qaida in Iraq tactic" of trying to provoke retaliatory killings by pitting members of religious and ethnic groups against each other.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081015/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq;_ylt=AuIMrtVH29WmiDOHGXBGDHgDW7oF

-- October 15, 2008 3:13 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S., Iraq agree pact giving U.S. troops until 2011
By Mariam Karouny
Wednesday, October 15, 2008

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Washington and Baghdad have reached a final agreement after months of talks on a pact that would require U.S. forces to withdraw from Iraq by 2011, U.S. and Iraqi officials said on Wednesday.

The bilateral pact replaces a U.N. Security Council resolution enacted after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 and will give Iraq's elected government authority over the U.S. troop presence for the first time.

The two countries reached a compromise on the difficult question of whether U.S. troops could be tried in Iraqi court, an issue that both sides had long said was holding up the pact.

The agreement was submitted to Iraqi political leaders for approval, a first step toward ratifying it in the Iraqi parliament, Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said.

A U.S. official in Washington confirmed the final draft had been agreed by both sides and would require U.S. troops to leave by the end of 2011, unless Iraq asks them to stay longer.

Dabbagh said the agreement envisions U.S. forces withdrawing from Iraqi towns and villages by the middle of next year, and withdraw completely from the country within three years.

"The withdrawal is to be achieved in three years. In 2011, the government at that time will determine whether it needs a new pact or not, and what type of pact will depend on the challenges it faces," he told Reuters.

Either side can withdraw from the pact with a year's notice.

The pact must be approved by a council of Iraqi political leaders, the cabinet and parliament. Most major political groups accept the idea of a U.S. presence as long as it is temporary.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/15/AR2008101501372.html

-- October 15, 2008 3:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 48%, McCain 44%
Obama holds edge as race remains stable
Released: October 15, 2008

UTICA, New York – The race for the White House has developed a familiar ebb and flow in advance of tonight’s final presidential debate, as Democratic Party presidential nominee Barack Obama remains slightly ahead of Republican John McCain, but cannot seem to break away, the latest results from the Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows.

After making a move forward the day before, edging outside the margin of error, yesterday’s three-day rolling average showed Obama again sliding back. He still leads McCain by a 48.2% to 44.4% margin, an advantage of 3.8 percentage points.

In this latest report on the three-day rolling average, McCain gained 1.6 percentage points, while Obama lost 0.8 percentage points.

McCain has flipped places with Obama among men, and now leads by an insignificant one percent, while Obama leads by 8 points among women, down from 11 points in yesterday’s report.

Liberal voters support Obama over McCain by an 85% to 11% margin, while McCain leads among conservatives by a 74% to 19% edge. Among moderates, 61% support Obama, while 33% support McCain.

McCain has regained the lead among those in military families, and now leads in the group, 49% to 44%. Obama has held a small edge in that demographic group for a few days.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1587

-- October 15, 2008 5:55 PM


SYED wrote:

All
Is there anyone can provide informations, what is the estimate/expected Iraqi dinar against dollar after the Iraq election on next year January?

Thanks

-- October 16, 2008 7:18 AM


Sara wrote:

I thought McCain won last nite's debate handily.
A few points which didn't come up, though, that are worthwhile mentioning.

First, when Barack (and McCain for that matter) hits on how much money the US owes,
they forget WHY President Bush caused such a rise - due to WAR being thrust upon America.
And the fact is, (again, no one gives him credit), that President Bush has kept America safe.
There may be a deficit, and America may owe more than when he took office,
but there was no repeat of 911 on US soil - something that, post 911, all the experts said was "inevitable".
It's easy to bellyache about the financial situation.. without giving credit where it is due.
America may think it would have done better to SKIMP on national security efforts post 911,
but I think it is very shortsighted to decry a man for spending the money to keep you alive.
I for one thank God for President Bush who got the RIGHT job done with the money,
and kept the country of America from another 911, even if it was costly.
The contrast of where else America would be now with someone willing to skimp on National Security -
it never enters their heads, as they are too short-sighted about their very lives being at stake.
Obama's reversal in this area would not only be costly financially, but also costly in American blood.
Tinkering with what is WORKING against the threat of Terrorism should not be handled by
someone who would take a hatchet to DOD spending, but a scalpel.. that man is John McCain.

When Barack Obama speaks about cutting back financially, he often says he will save money on the Iraq war.
He will pull back the troops, he says, and by ending that war, free up money now spent there.
But the fashion in which he would remove from this "distraction" (his words about Iraq) in the War on Terror -
it would SKIMP on US interests and national security. In the mongering after peace at any cost,
and the desire to not owe a penny, WHERE each candidate would cut back is important.
And cutting back on national security measures is simply unwise, something McCain would not do.
McCain stated he knows HOW to cut back on Defense spending..
what was never contrasted was the fact Obama does not know how to and his inexperience...
perhaps because he has never done so and so no one can now point to his blunders and the associated costs.
There was never a point made of the responsible scapel McCain would bring to the job -
as contrasted with Obama's hatchet job on national security and regional peace for the Middle East.
Obama would cut back Iraq with a hatchet, indiscriminately.
McCain would not, but would trim back on waste, as he has a record of doing.

The record speaks firmly as to who would do pork barrel spending, tax increases and hatchet jobs on DoD spending...
(Obama) and who would give tax cuts, no pork/earmarks and a workable scapel on Defense spending (McCain).
Remember Obama's promises to disarm the US of her nuclear arsenal, unilaterally, as an "example" to other nations??
And Obama's commitment to give huge amounts of money to AFRICA - what of that? (remember?)
And here, his promise to make "professional students" out of Americans by promising 4,000 dollars to everyone..
every year.. who pays for that? And his nationalizing health care, and increasing funding to education..
where does all this money come from?

Obama also presumes he can cut back on defense spending and not be pulled into further war expenses.
Circumstances could easily ruin such peaceful plans.
He seems to believe President Bush WANTED to go to war in Iraq (a far left talking point from the man most left of center) not that President Bush was forced into this war and went very reluctantly.
President Bush committed to war only to preserve American lives and Homeland Security, he did not WANT war.
Obama has already said he would increase war spending in Afghanistan, and costly confrontation with Iran looms.
McCain can be Patton if necessary.. Obama would only be a flop.
But more than that, Obama would increase what the country owes and make it no safer.
We don't need someone with such inexperience in the Whitehouse in light of the global nature of the War on Terror..
and the likelihood of dealing with rogue nuclear-armed regimes in the near future.
Americans cried out post 911 to President Bush (and God), "keep us safe!" and with God's aid, he has.
The next President will be hard pressed to improve or even maintain that record.
Obama's ineptness in foreign affairs (and Biden's too, as mentioned by McCain in the debate)
can have far reaching consequences.. far beyond the pocketbook concerns of only American citizenry.

I was listening to a British Professor of American History recently,
and he said that not everyone had stock at the time of the 1930s depression.
Actually, only ONE PERCENT of the population owned stock.
But, he said, it was the most influential, top 1% of the population who owned that stock..
and when they lost their money, there was a crash and DEpression.
So Obama trying to "bail out" the middle class misses the mark.
They are not the ones who could turn this into a serious DEpression,
the money-people are. That is why Obama's policy to tax the "rich" would not work,
instead, it would bring on lasting recession and perhaps even depression..
as it did when this segment of the population was hit in the 1930s.
Because those who make the economy run are not the "Joe Plumber's" of the world,
(Joe Plumbers are only those whose votes help people win elections, not those who power Big Money/the economy)
Instead, it is those running things at the top, rich people of the world, that oil the wheels of economic progress.
When Obama says the rich CAN pay more taxes and it won't hurt them..
he does not see that the last time there was a DEpression was when this top 1% got hit financially.
His policies would set that up again, by taxing them and removing their financial stimulus -
the stimulus which helps them to hold the lion's share of stocks in the market and create American jobs.

Lastly, I watched Obama speak of his version of "Hitler Youth" with alarm.
Obama said he would give 4,000 dollars to each person seeking a higher education each year.
In return, the Federal Government would require them, not to pay back the loan, BUT -
to join his "civilian community services group" - the same group which he said earlier would be larger than the military.
This is a new "Hitler Youth", and you can bet Alsinky brainwashing would become part of that mix, too.
Anytime someone says, "I am from the Federal Government, and I am here to help you."
There is time to take stock of what that "help" means.
In Obama's case, it means purchasing loyalty to his views and ideals by "serving" in a brainwashing "youth" group.
Perhaps Ayers and his radical "educators" would then be given the funding for "educating" these groups in their radical ideology, as was done before with the millions Obama and Ayers gave away to such "educational" radical groups.
Maybe they could choose between Black Power reeducation camps or Socialist/Communist ones...
or not be allowed to attend university and access the funding necessary to attain to a "higher" education.
Truly, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Sara.

-- October 16, 2008 9:23 AM


Sara wrote:

Syed;

As for the "estimate/expected Iraqi dinar against dollar after the Iraq election on next year January" - the point is well taken. AFTER the election, there could be a Revaluation if the old dead wood and hinderances to the RV plan are elected out of office. I certainly am hoping so. I believe the hinderances to the RV are comprised of people in both the political and economic spheres of concern.. this may address the political problems so that the value is allowed to free float for the good of their economic standing and subsequent increase in Iraqi wealth, God willing. As for the specific numbers and plan which WILL be implemented at that time.. God only knows.

Sara.

-- October 16, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I am assuming any new investment in Iraq's oil infastructure will be under the auspices of the S.O.L (Saddam's Oil Law).
__________________________________________________________
Iraq Invites New Foreign Oil Bids, Seeking Funds to
Double Production

By GUY CHAZANArticle

Iraq opened the doors to foreign investment in its vast oil industry Monday, as it revealed the terms for contracts in its first round of oil bidding since the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.

Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani met with executives from 35 international oil companies in London, setting out the conditions of 20-year service contracts to develop six of the country's oil fields and two new natural-gas fields.

"This is a very important milestone in the history of the Iraqi oil industry," Natik al-Bayati, director general of Iraq's Oil Ministry, said after the meeting.

Mr. Shahristani said Iraq wasn't producing enough oil to fund the reconstruction of the country. "Thus we felt the cooperation of international oil companies is needed to fast-track the development of Iraq's potential," he said. He added the country could no longer wait for a much-delayed oil law to be passed before it moved ahead on awarding licenses.

Iraq has 115 billion barrels of oil reserves, the third largest after Saudi Arabia and Iran. But more than a decade of sanctions and two wars have left its oil infrastructure in tatters.

The country has ambitious plans to more than double its current production of around 2.2 million barrels of oil a day within four years. That will require massive investment.

The World Bank has estimated Iraq needs to commit an additional $1 billion every year to the oil industry just to sustain current production.

There were hopes that the long-awaited hydrocarbon law would unlock Iraq's potential by setting the terms for foreign companies wanting to work in the oil industry and explaining how oil revenues would be shared by the country's regions. But the law has been bogged down for months in Iraqi parliament amid debate about the role of Western oil majors. Nationalists worry Iraq could become the only big oil-producing country in the Middle East to allow foreign control of its oil projects.

Meanwhile, frustrated by the delays, Kurds in the north of Iraq have gone ahead and signed a slew of oil deals with Western companies, over Baghdad's objections.

Investors encouraged by the improved security have shown renewed interest. But they faced a setback earlier this year when, after months of negotiations, the government abandoned a plan to sign a series of technical-support agreements with Western oil companies. Instead, it decided to focus on more long-term contracts.

The fruit of that switch was Monday's meeting. Mr. Shahristani said the ministry had decided it could no longer wait for parliament to act. "We've spent over a year waiting for the hydrocarbon law to be passed," he said. "We don't think the country can really afford any more debates."

The contracts could be approved even if the law weren't adopted, he said, since they require only cabinet approval.

Officials said they had received about 120 offers from companies wanting to take part in the bid round, and 35 of them had qualified. They said bidders would have to pay signature bonuses of at least $10 million per field and commit to a strict work program. Firms are to submit their bids within six months and the contracts will be signed by June next year.

The oil fields on offer are some of the biggest in Iraq and are already in production.

Oil companies will be required to help rehabilitate the fields, increase output and improve recovery rates which have fallen sharply in recent years due to a lack of investment.

State-owned companies will have 51% stakes in the entities operating the fields and foreign companies would hold 49%. Foreign firms would recover their costs and earn additional revenue from any oil produced above current output levels at the fields -- and could choose whether to be paid in oil or in cash. "The cost of investment will be recovered dollar for dollar," Mr. Bayati said.

Oil companies have traditionally steered clear of such service contracts, preferring deals that give them equity in the oil in the ground. That allows them to book reserves. But the majors have been squeezed out of so many oil producing regions, such as Venezuela, Russia and the Middle East, that they can't turn up their noses at the conditions Iraq is offering.

"Frankly, the international oil companies don't have anywhere else to go these days," said Muhammad-Ali Zainy, senior energy economist at the Centre for Global Energy Studies in London. "This is a great opportunity for them to gain access to low-cost reserves."
(www.online.wsj.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 16, 2008 9:55 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Referring agreement to parliament...responsibility evasion, says Kurd MP 16/10/2008 13:39:00

Baghdad (NINA) –The Kurdistani Alliance’s Legislator Abdullah Salih has described sending the file of the Status of Forces Agreement with the United States to parliament as “a responsibility evasion and an attempt to escape the regional pressures.”

Government considers people’s opinion on agreement, says Allaq 16/10/2008 12:59:00

Baghdad (NINA) –MP Ali al-Allaq of the United Iraqi Alliance declared that the Iraqi government will appeal to the people and their representatives in parliament before concluding the Status of Forces Agreement SOFA with the United States.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 16, 2008 9:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Falling oil prices make Iraq revisit budget
By SINAN SALAHEDDIN

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Baghdad, 16 October 2008 (Associated Press)
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A steep drop in the price of oil may force Iraq to scale back its $79 billion budget for 2009, the Finance Ministry said Wednesday.

Also, a U.S. projection for a cumulative $79 billion budget surplus this year based largely on oil revenues is now unlikely. The surplus projection by congressional auditors brought angry demands from Americans for Iraq to shoulder more of the financial burden of reconstruction.

Last month, the ministry set next year's budget at nearly $79 billion based on expectations that the average price per barrel of oil would not drop below $80. But on Wednesday, oil for November delivery was trading around $76 per barrel — far below a record $147 in July. Oil revenues represent more than 90 percent of the national budget.

"There is a necessity to reconsider next year's budget in the light of the new oil prices that started to swing due to the global financial crisis," Finance Ministry spokesman Adnan Abdul-Rahman told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Last summer, a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office projected the Iraqi government could end this year with a cumulative budget surplus of as much as $79 billion. That angered American officials who fumed that the Iraqis are spending only a fraction of that on the billions of dollars in reconstruction costs that are largely being shouldered by U.S. taxpayers.

But that projected surplus looks excessive now because of falling oil prices and also because in July, Iraq added $21 billion from that surplus to its 2008 budget. That brought the total 2008 budget to around $70 billion.

The new average price of oil for budget purposes will be determined next week when Iraqi Finance Minister Bayan Jaber returns from Washington, where he is attending the International Monetary Fund meetings, Abdul-Rahman said.

Many Iraqis — who lack adequate electricity, clean water and jobs — find it unfathomable their country is awash in oil dollars. Last year, Iraq spent less than a third of the $12 billion budgeted for major projects such as electricity, housing and water.

In Washington, senators renewed calls in recent months for Baghdad to pay more for its own reconstruction.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, in his debate earlier this month with Republican rival John McCain, said the war in Iraq is putting an enormous strain on the U.S. budget — $10 billion a month — at a time when the Iraqis have a substantial budget surplus.

Though Iraq is paying for more of its own reconstruction, U.S. officials say it is still struggling to spend its multibillion-dollar surplus as it copes with a flood of oil revenue and a cumbersome approval process meant to curb corruption.

The surplus projected for this year by the GAO report was cumulative, based on oil revenues add to leftover income the Iraqis still haven't spent on national rebuilding. The GAO said in August that Iraq had an estimated budget surplus of about $29 billion from 2005 to 2007 and could have an additional surplus of up to $50 billion this year from oil revenues.

The GAO report estimated Iraq could generate $67 billion to $79 billion in oil sales this year. However, around the time of that estimate, oil prices were roughly twice as high as the current levels.

U.S. officials who work with the Iraqis on reconstruction said the Baghdad government has been increasing its capital spending by 30 percent to 35 percent each year since 2006 — although they added that both governments want to see the pace increased.

Nevertheless, the GAO report faulted the government for holding back on spending plans.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 16, 2008 10:10 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bank discusses ‘irrecoverable debts’ Thursday

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Baghdad, 16 October 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Al-Khaleej Commercial Bank will discuss on Thursday the irrecoverable debts in the Iraqi banking system, which will be attended by representatives of the Central Bank and specialists in the Iraqi economy.

“An economic forum “The irrecoverable debts in the Iraqi banking system” will be held tomorrow at al-Khaleej Bank’s Headquarters with the attendance of a group of specialists and economists,” a source told Aswat al-Iraq.

“The irrecoverable debts consider one of the most important problems facing banks now as debtors currently are not able to pay, mainly after several businessmen left the country after the deterioration of security condition,” he explained.

“The Iraqi economic system in Iraq seeks to turn from the comprehensive system to the capitalist system, the matter needs a great role of banking loans which consider the main pillar of the economic movement in different industrial, trade and agriculture fields,” he also said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 16, 2008 10:22 AM


Sara wrote:

Obama is boxing at shadows.. created by the MSM press.

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Secret Service: No One Shouted 'Kill Him' About Obama
By Matthew Sheffield
October 16, 2008

Despite the huge media hubub that it's caused, the U.S. Secret Service is formally denying an allegation from a Pennsylvania newspaper that an attendee at a Republican rally shouted out "kill him" in reference to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

"We have yet to find someone to back up the story," agent Bill Slavoski told the Wilkes-Barre Times Leader. "We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it."

The alleged remark was first reported by David Singleton, a writer for the Scranton Times-Tribune newspaper. Singleton remains the sole person claiming he heard the offensive words:
QUOTE:

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

==end quote==

Despite his lonely status (the Secret Service considers the matter "closed"), Singleton stands by his story although he does admit that he has no description of the person he claims uttered the phrase.

Singleton's editor, Jeff Sonderman, is striking a rather CBSish pose on the affair, defending his reporter in astonishingly confident language:

"We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that's really all there is."

Who wants to bet that the LSM which earlier jumped all over the original story will be as quick to report this denial?

Don't all raise your hands.

Update: This is the second of two "kill him" reports we've seen. Like this one, the first is all hype and no substance.

While the first "kill him" comment has been confirmed by multiple individuals, as Patrick Frey pointed out on the 14th, this remark was directed toward far left former terrorist Bill Ayers, not toward Obama.

Both of these stories are false. There is not one cofirmed report of a person at a Republican rally shouting "kill him" in reference to Barack Obama.

If you have time, feel free to drop a line to Snopes.com and tell them the facts about this. This inaccurate story deserves to be corrected.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2008/10/16/secret-service-no-one-shouted-kill-him-about-obama

-- October 16, 2008 10:26 AM


Sara wrote:

This raises some questions..

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Proof Obama backed ruthless, foreign thug
Set up direct Senate contact for Kenyan opposition leader
Posted: October 10, 2008
By Bob Unruh

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1f7JcA
Obama and Odinga

Sen. Barack Obama designated a personal aide as his direct contact for the 2007 Kenyan presidential campaign of Raila Odinga, who later was appointed prime minister after his election loss was followed by widespread, deadly violence that destroyed or damaged 800 Christian churches, according to e-mails obtained by WND senior staff writer Jerry Corsi during a trip to Kenya.

Corsi attempted to release this and other information at a Tuesday press conference in Nairobi. The WND reporter and No. 1 New York Times bestselling author was detained by Kenya security officers as soon as he entered the hotel to make his presentation. He was held incommunicado and without food for the entire day before being permitted to board his regularly scheduled flight out of the country to London, where he is currently recuperating from the ordeal.

As WND has reported, Obama openly campaigned for Odinga during the Illinois Democrat's 2006 Senate "fact-finding visit" to Kenya. (see hyperlink)

Odinga called for protests over alleged voter fraud after losing the December 2007 general election. The resulting protest violence left an estimated 1,000 members of the dominant Kikuyu tribe in Kenya dead and an estimated 500,000 displaced from their homes.

The links between Obama and Odinga were documented by copies of two e-mails obtained by Corsi during his meetings in Kenya with various government officials and others.

The e-mails, apparently sent by Obama himself, referenced the senator's aide, Mark Lippert. The e-mails were provided to WND by an insider in Kenya who fled Odinga's Orange Democratic political party and requested anonymity because of the danger of retaliation.

One e-mail purportedly from Obama, dated Dec. 22, 2006, read, "I will kindly wish that all our correspondence [be] handled by Mr Mark Lippert. I have already instructed him. This will be for my own security both for now and in future."

It is reproduced here with the e-mail address of the person who forwarded it to WND redacted:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx14n84i

Lippert is a long-term Obama Senate staff member identified by the Chicago Sun-Times as a member of Obama's "inner circle of foreign policy experts." The Sun-Times has said if Obama is elected president, his secretary of state and national security advisers are expected to come from this inner circle.

In December 2006 Odinga was in the early stages of planning to run as the Orange Democratic candidate against President Mwai Kibaki.

The e-mails from Obama's office to Odinga's presidential campaign seem to show Obama and Odinga, who once told the BBC he is Obama's cousin, had discussions about Odinga's 2007 campaign.

WND was unable to reach the Obama campaign for a comment, as the campaign telephone system disconnected a WND call three times in a row without any provision to leave a message.

The former Orange Democratic official who provided the e-mails to WND asked for anonymity because of concerns the disclosure of his identity could endanger his life in a volatile political atmosphere in Kenya where Odinga's fellow Luo tribal members staged sometimes violent protests against Kibaki's supporters, who primarily are Kikuyu.

Sen. Obama's relatives in Kenya are Luo.

The former Orange Democratic official reported abandoning the party and opposing Odinga because of concerns Odinga had manipulated tribal violence in Kenya to gain political power.

During Corsi's trip to Kenya, WND also confirmed the role of the anonymous party source in implementing an Odinga campaign strategy which the source claimed was shared with Obama's Senate office. The strategy is described in a document titled "Executive Brief on the Positioning and Marketing of the Orange Democratic Movement & 'The People's President.'" (hyperlink)

The document at one point suggests: "It is possible to trigger a class war by painting the Kibaki Government as an insensitive, uncaring group of Muthaiga Golf clubbers. Available research also suggests that this strategy could also resonate with poor kikuyu youth who feel economically marginalized by their own government. As part of this strategy the party should seek to elevate the emotions within all youth constituents who may it successful, be willing to vote for us in the protest. Visible signs of class disparity will provide important fodder for this theme."

WND previously reported (hyperlink) Obama was in telephone communications with Odinga on nearly a daily basis during the Democratic primary in New Hampshire in January.

The second e-mail, again from Obama's Senate address to Odinga's e-mail, stated, "Thanks for contacting me about Mr Lippert through email. Contact him through mark_lippert.obama.senate.gov."

Seen here: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1f8jCJ

Obama continued to support Odinga's effort to share Kenya's head-of-state with President Kibiki even after the wave of Odinga-prompted violence that followed his defeat.

According to a Wall Street Journal article posted on the Obama campaign website, Lippert is given credit for helping "hone" Obama's anti-war views.

The website report states: "Over the past two years, Sen. Obama and Lt. Lippert have traveled around the globe together, played one-on-one basketball and shared each other's shoes. Lt. Lippert has continuing email exchanges with the senator's half sister in Africa. Sen. Obama encouraged Lt. Lippert to get engaged. Sen. Obama calls Lt. Lippert, 'one of my favorite people in the world.'"

Lippert previously worked at the State Department and at the Office of Naval Intelligence in Suitland, Md.

The report says Lippert accompanied Obama as an adviser to Russia and then to Kenya.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77508

-- October 16, 2008 10:51 AM


Sara wrote:

I thought I would mention that, quote, "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 46%." That is before the debate is taken into account..

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McCain ad: “Fight”
October 16, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Joe the Plumber will get three weeks of fame, it seems, and not just 15 minutes. John McCain released a new ad today called “Fight”, and he has now focused on the economy, thanks to a little plumbing in Team McCain’s house:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdBvJvNS2c

QUOTE:

The last eight years haven’t worked very well, have they? I’ll make the next four better. Your savings, your job and your financial security are under siege. Washington is making it worse - bankrupting us with their spending.

Telling us paying higher taxes is “patriotic”?

And saying we need to “spread the wealth around”?

They refuse common sense solutions for energy independence. So every day we send billions to the Middle East.

We need a new direction and I have a plan. Your savings. We’ll rebuild them. Your investments. They’ll grow again. Energy. We’ll drill here and we’ll create a renewable energy economy. Lower taxes and less spending will protect your job and create new ones.

That’ll restore our country.

Stand up with me, let’s fight for America.

==end quote==

At one minute, this is an investment for television spots — but a wise one. Once again, McCain uses the effective technique of looking directly into the camera and speaking for himself. That gives him a chance to connect emotionally with the voters, rather than just showing up at the end of a series of quick-cut images.

The economic message works. McCain obviously wants to ride the “spread the wealth” redistributionism of Obama all the way to the finish line, using Obama’s populism against him. Could Joe the Plumber be the Poland of this campaign? It just might. The visceral reaction of Joe the Plumber to Obama’s bald redistributionist intentions may have finally highlighted the fact of Obama’s doctrinaire liberal policy. In a time of great economic insecurity, voters are paying close attention to these issues.

McCain needs to stay on this attack. Let Sarah Palin talk about William Ayers. McCain needs to demonstrate that Obama represents nothing more than another tax-and-spend redistributionist.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/16/mccain-ad-fight/

-- October 16, 2008 11:24 AM


Sara wrote:

Even the Associated Press said McCain won the debate..
but then, like the leftist media news, follow it up with "but is it enough?" -
Followed by Democrat talking points, even though one third of voters remain undecided,
and the other two thirds are split right down the middle on Barack or McCain.
(Note today's poll results of Rasmussen showing within four points, and Zogby, same, 48/44 yesterday.)
Key points, quote:

McCain won the last debate of the 2008 campaign.
Over the next 20 days, both candidates will go after the voters who say they could still change their minds.
There are a lot of them - about one-third of all voters...

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Analysis: McCain puts Obama on the defensive
Oct 15, 2008
By LIZ SIDOTI

WASHINGTON (AP) - This time, John McCain kept Barack Obama on the defensive.

The feisty Republican tried hard to find a lifeline Wednesday night, challenging his Democratic rival at every turn over his truthfulness, associations and record.

By that measure, McCain won the last debate of the 2008 campaign.

But that may not be enough.

McCain still desperately needs to change the trajectory of a race that's tilting (is it? - Sara) significantly toward Obama. Democratic voters outnumber Republicans, the economic crisis has transformed the race in Obama's favor, President Bush is extremely unpopular, most voters think the country is on the wrong track and the Democrat is leading in key-state polling.

There's little McCain can do on his own to change the dynamic. Not that he didn't try. "I am not President Bush," he said.

"You didn't keep your word," McCain reminded Obama on the issue of accepting public financing, something Obama had said he would do if the GOP nominee followed suit.

McCain, seemingly more prepared and definitely more aggressive than in past debates, called Obama's tax plan "class warfare," accused him of failing to stand up to his party's leaders and said the Democrat twisted his record in ads.

With his repeated attacks, the Republican ran the risk of turning off voters. Their negative impressions of him have risen as he questioned Obama's character over the past week. A New York Times/CBS News poll this week found that more voters see McCain as having waged a negative campaign than Obama.

Yet, McCain had little choice but to turn up the heat - and endure the consequences.

With the election in less than three weeks, the debate season is over and there are no more high-profile opportunities that can guarantee McCain an audience of tens of millions of people. Flush with cash, Obama has bought 30-minute blocks of prime-time advertising six days before the election; McCain may not be able to afford the same.

Over the next 20 days, both candidates will go after the voters who say they could still change their minds.

There are a lot of them - about one-third of all voters - but McCain has to win many more than Obama. Not only is he behind in the polls, but the base of all-but-certain Republican voters is smaller than Obama's Democratic foundation.

The Arizona senator's challenge is great.

In the race for 270 Electoral College votes, Obama has comfortable leads in polls in Democratic-held states and is competitive if not ahead in surveys in Republican bastions. A look at the intensity of candidate visits and television advertising shows the contest is basically playing out in states that Bush won four years ago, with Obama slated to visit Missouri, North Carolina and Virginia this weekend. Only two states that Democrat John Kerry won in 2004, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, are getting serious attention.

The candidates went into the debate season 20 days ago, virtually tied in polls in the race for the White House.

Since then, Wall Street collapsed, the markets plummeted and the government intervened, putting the economy - and Bush's policies - at the forefront of voters' minds.

EDITOR'S NOTE - Liz Sidoti covers the presidential campaign for The Associated Press and has covered national politics since 2003.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081016/D93RBJF00.html

Even IF "Obama has comfortable leads in polls in Democratic-held states and is competitive if not ahead in surveys in Republican bastions" with ONE THIRD of the votes not even in play in these polls (which are neck and neck at the moment).. though the Democrats don't wish to concede it.. anything can happen. ;)

Sara.

-- October 16, 2008 12:15 PM


Sara wrote:

Nice to see the the polling gap has narrowed to THREE points today.. :)
McCain IS catching up and the trend is toward McCain.
It's now 49% to 46%.. according to Gallup. That makes it within the margin of error, and so, a toss up.

BUT, that made Gallup decide to create a "new" category which will add in more "likely" voters.. for Obama.
Certainly, with the pollsters like this so obviously in the tank for Obama, you have to take even polling "statistics" with much salt.
Such corruption, not only in politics.
You know what they say... there are lies, damned lies and statistics.. these are them.

Sara.

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Gallup's New 'Likely Voter' Category: Likely to Find More Obama Voters
By Tom Blumer
October 16, 2008

Just in time for the final weeks of the presidential election campaign, Gallup has added a nuance to its polling presentations.

Instead of merely presenting "registered" and "likely" voters, the polling firm has decided to present a third category: an "expanded" version of likely voters. This third category is in addition to its "traditional" likely-voter presentation.

My look at Gallup's October 12-14 results indicates that the "expanded" version is indeed likely -- likely to find Obama voters, and that's about it.

First, here's the organization's explanation of the new category:
Quote:

Likely Voter Estimates

Gallup is presenting two likely voter estimates to see how preferences might vary under different turnout scenerios. The "expanded" model determines likely voters based only on their current voting intention. This estimate would take into account higher turnout among groups of voters traditionally less likely to vote, but who may be inspired to vote this year. That model has generally produced results that closely match the registered voter figures as is the case today, showing Obama up by eight points, 52% to 44%.

The "traditional" likely voter model, which Gallup has employed for past elections, factors in prior voting behavior as well as current voting intention. This has generally shown a closer contest, though with Obama still ahead. Today's results show Obama with a three-point advantage over McCain using this likely voter model, 49% to 46%. That is slightly closer than the average five-point advantage for Obama among traditional likely voters since Gallup began measuring them last week. -- Jeff Jones.

==end quote==

Here is the October 12-14 presentation of the three categories:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1cQY8r

To get to the new "expanded" version from the original, more time-tested "traditional" result, here is roughly what the breakdown between Obama, McCain, and others has to be (the "expanded" column was decreased by 0.5% each for McCain and Obama so that the total percentages would add up to 100%):

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1peVM9

Yeah, right. 86% - 9% of the 159 new "expanded" likely voters go to Obama. How convenient!

This doesn't even pass the stench test, let alone the smell test.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/10/16/gallups-new-likely-vote-category-likely-find-more-obama-voters

-- October 16, 2008 4:11 PM


Sara wrote:

America's Despicable Left-Wing Press is Playing a Dangerous Game
By Gabriel Garnica
MichNews.com
Oct 15, 2008

The lines are drawn in the sand. To the left of that line are those people so blinded by radical liberalism that they would vote for Barack Obama if ( or is it because?) he performed a partial-birth abortion on Saturday Night Live right before yelling, “Live from New York, it’s the second coming!”

To the right of that line are those people who have a working brain and can see that Barack Obama’s resume reads like 50 Ways To Destroy Your Country.

In the middle, inexplicably and tragically, are a bunch of people who get confused watching traffic signals. These folks get their news from the likes of Couric, Olbermann and Brokow and actually listen to anything Bill Maher spews. They think that anything uttered on The View is has the value of cat litter and swoon when Barbara Streisand or Whoopie Goldberg get that “I’m going to attempt thought” look.

One might argue, with good reason, that this is the most important election in American history. It may well be the fork in the road where this nation chooses to go down two very different paths. To the right is the path to renewed glory, continued freedom and surmounting difficulties. To the left is surrender to radicalism, enslavement in secular liberalism and a steady decline toward oblivion.

Clearly, America has the most in play in this election. After all, this contest may well determine if America will mean anything in a few years. Just as clearly, our people and our future generations have a dog in this race. After all, what transpires on Election Day will greatly shape the kind of home we will have, and our children will grow up in.

Let us not forget, however, the huge investment that the liberal, mainstream media has in this election. Having finally reached such a blatant level of favoritism and bias, having played their radical liberal secularism hand so openly and arrogantly, the mainstream press has much invested in the November results.

If Barack Obama wins, the vile, despicable and arrogant bias of the liberal media will be the least of America’s worries. If Obama should lose, however, it will be a very different story. First, the mere closeness of the contest will be the result of the media’s blatant spin, censorship and bias. If the press displayed half the integrity they should have, Barack Obama would not be in the Senate, much less the White House. The choice between these two candidates would be so obvious as to be laughable, and the result would not surprise anyone. As it is, the press has created this contest, and made it a horse race.

Second, in order to cover up for their bias, and likewise continue their Leftist agenda, the press will tell us that Barack Obama lost due to widespread racial prejudice and fraud. How is it possible, they will ask, that someone so much in front could actually lose? The answer, of course, is that Obama was never so much in front to begin with.

Finally, and perhaps hopefully, I pray that if Obama should lose, this despicable and vile display of media bias will be questioned. We need someone to ask how and why we have left the mainstream media in charge of our national debates, both literally and figuratively. An Obama loss could provide us with the chance to sit back and ask how we can drag the press back into the business of providing, not spinning, the truth.

Many people have, as they say, dogs in this race, but none any more than the Left-wing press, which has invested heavily in an Obama win. These people will be confronted with two choices should Obama lose. One would be to admit that they lost their objectivity, became enamored with the illusion and delusion that is Barack Obama. The second, much more likely choice is based on past history and common sense. In that alternate ending, America’s liberal propaganda machine will start telling us that a worthy and talented candidate was taken down by America’s dripping racism and hate, and that we have far to go to deserve such a man.

If past history is any indication, this press will foment unrest and chaos, not only so they can report on it but, also, so that they can use it as proof that the wrong side won. Can’t you see Leftist goons like Olbermann and Couric tearing at the sight of looting and rioting they helped incite and uttering “when will the racial hate end?”

It is time that we make this corrupt press accountable for its Leftist bias, that we hold their feet to the fire for their unfair and biased reporting, and that we expose them for the liberal propaganda machine that they actually are. In order to do this, however, we need an Obama defeat. Should Obama win, we will look back one day and see these days as the good old days when all the press did was lie and pretend their news was the news.

It is high time that we send all of these media clowns to the next fiction writing convention, where they should be featured speakers. In fact, we should force each of these “journalists” to write “truth” a thousand times on some blackboard so that, just maybe, they will actually get a faint notion of what that means.

Without a doubt, the Leftist press is rolling the dice with their blatant and biased support of Barack Obama. For America’s sake, let us hope that they will roll snake eyes.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21549.shtml

-- October 16, 2008 10:20 PM


Sara wrote:

RNC ad: “Chair”
October 16, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The RNC offers its most effective ad of this cycle today. Called “Chair”, it points out Barack Obama’s lack of executive experience and asks voters whether they want to trust an untested neophyte in the midst of one of the worst economic crises in a century:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZXQfEAHts
QUOTE:

Meltdown. Foreclosure. Pensions, savings wiped out.

And now our nation considers elevating one of the least experienced people ever to run for President.

Barack Obama: he hasn’t had executive experience.

This crisis would be Obama’s first crisis. In this chair.

==end quote==

That is a near-perfect distillation of the experience argument against Obama. Why should Americans trust Obama in the nation’s highest office when he has no experience at all as an executive at any level of politics? Obama is, indeed, one of the least experienced people ever to run for President as a major-party nominee. He hasn’t even completed his first term in the Senate.

Obama could answer that charge if he had an extraordinary list of accomplishments, but he doesn’t. Want to watch an Obama supporter squirm? Ask them this question: Outside of getting himself elected, what has Barack Obama actually accomplished? He spent seven years in the state legislature without much to recommend him, and he’s done even less in the US Senate in half that time. Usually, the response will be a spluttering tirade against the Bush administration, but George Bush isn’t running for re-election, and it still doesn’t answer the question.

Of course, Obama does have some limited executive experience, but strangely, he doesn’t want to talk about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and its eight-figure failure in educational reform. In fact, he and his campaign go out of their way to smear journalists who research it and try their best to silence them.

No significant accomplishments in the legislature. Less than four years experience in national politics. No executive, military, or foreign-relations experience. The RNC rightly reminds voters of Obama’s shallow resumé and asks why we would trust him in any crisis, let alone during a time of war and financial collapse.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/16/rnc-ad-chair/

-- October 16, 2008 10:25 PM


Sara wrote:

QUOTE:

I personally have two nieces and one nephew currently attending college, only one of the three out of state. But all three have been approached dozens of times daily by on campus Obama supporters over the past few weeks, and in almost every case, they were told how they could vote twice for Obama in two separate districts without ever being caught.

Interesting..

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It's the Voter Fraud Stupid: The Key to Defeating the Liar in 2008
By JB Williams
MichNews.com
Oct 15, 2008

Obama is leading in every national poll. But in part, that is due to the “weighted average” system used by all pollsters to balance hard survey results with a “weighted” mathematical equation based upon respective DNC and RNC voter rolls.

Simply stated, there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans at present. So the poll results are “weighted” by mathematical equation to reflect this reality. However, many of the DNC voter registrants are fraudulent.

Indeed, if every illegal, fraudulent, duplicate student and dead voter present in today’s DNC registration rolls is counted as a legitimate vote on Election Day, election results will track with the national polls.

It stands to reason, by the way... Leftists wanted unqualified home buyers to get bad mortgages they couldn’t afford and now they want unqualified voters to cast multiple votes for the most unqualified candidate in American history. It’s poetic really. At least they’re consistent.

But will millions of fraudulent votes be counted on Election Day? Obama and his fellow anti-American leftists are counting on it. How bout you? (Yes, “anti-American” is the correct term...)

Obama’s Massive Systematic Voter Fraud

Voter fraud has been a part of the DNC get out the vote strategy for years. ACORN has perfected the art, thanks in great part to Barack Obama’s personal training. But it has never existed on the massive scale that it exists today. How fitting that it is Obama himself who now stands to gain the most by the unethical tactics he trained ACORN “organizers” years ago.

The bad news is that this massive effort to steal the 2008 election has a real chance of succeeding, as it has been operating under the protective cloak of the pro-Obama lamestream press for years and the average American is largely unaware.

But the good news is this, - The blatant massive movement it has become is very difficult to fully conceal. A few thousand dead, illegal or duplicate votes can pass by undetected, and they are seldom the deciding factor in any national election.

However, when a few thousand fraudulent votes become several million, an elephant that size is hard for even the lamestream press to cover up.

The Two Prong DNC Strategy

Fraudulent Voter Registration of voters not legally able to vote either because they are not U.S. citizens, are felons, are fictitious names with fictitious addresses, or are dead.

Duplicate Voter Registration of college students studying out of state who are being double registered, once in their home district and a second time in the district where they attend college, so that they can vote for Obama twice without being detected in same-state voter rolls. - They have been successful with this strategy even across county lines in the past, because by the time those votes are confirmed fraudulent, the election is long over.

Both prongs of the strategy are now under state and/or federal investigation, though the lamestream press seems much more interested in telling American voters about how Governor Sarah Palin requested an investigation into her former brother-in-laws police tazering of his then ten year old step-son.

What is the biggest political story of the century goes largely unreported by the pro-Obama press corps. At least twelve states, many of them run by Democrats, have now launched investigations into massive Democrat voter registration fraud, allegedly committed by former Obama “community organizing” group, ACORN, among others.

Local TV crews have shown up on college campuses to tape pro-Obama Democrat voter registration efforts aimed at teaching college students how to vote for Obama twice.

The Detroit Free Press reports, "If the absentee ballots are any indication, we're going to have a historic number of people voting," Johnson said.

“Voter registration drives, particularly by Democrat Barack Obama's campaign, have been credited with signing up large numbers of young, first-time voters -- many of them students on college campuses.”

I personally have two nieces and one nephew currently attending college, only one of the three out of state. But all three have been approached dozens of times daily by on campus Obama supporters over the past few weeks, and in almost every case, they were told how they could vote twice for Obama in two separate districts without ever being caught.

Fortunately, all three are McCain-Palin supporters and pointed out each time that this was “voter fraud,” a fact which seemed of no interest at all to those campaigning for Obama.

The Detroit Free Press states, “In recent months, a large number of fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications were turned in to local clerks. Most came from the registration drive of ACORN, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. The organization used paid, part-time workers to obtain registration applications.”

“Also, many college students who registered to vote in their hometowns but signed up through registration drives on or near their campuses might find it difficult to vote by absentee ballot. That's because first-time voters can't vote absentee unless they register in person with their hometown local or county clerk, with an eligible identification.”

Yet in Ohio, new Democrat Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has been over-ruled by a federal court in her effort to misuse “motor-voter” laws to count early Obama votes from same-day registrants whose registration form has not yet been checked through any standard verification procedures mandated by Ohio and Federal Election Laws.

They don’t want every legal legitimate vote to count. They want every vote to count, no matter how fraudulent or corrupt. This is the winning strategy of the left.

In addition, the FEC is investigating more than $200 million in illegal (foreign) campaign contributions to the Obama campaign.

It’s the Fraud Stupid

The most under-vetted but obviously unqualified candidate to ever seek the Oval Office can indeed win the 2008 election to become the next Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America at the most dangerous possible time in American history. But only with millions of illegal fraudulent votes...

So, it comes down to how to stop the massive Democrat effort to defraud the nation out of the most important national election of this generation?

In a truly free society, informed by a truly unbiased and non-partisan press, it would be easy. But we are about to choose our next president on the basis of four pro-Democrat debates moderated by four pro-Obama Democrats instead.

The dirty laundry list of Obama stories would be enough to run any other corrupt politician back to Kenya, if those stories were ever allowed to see daylight.

But not Obama, the “chosen messiah” of the New Democratic Socialists of America. His Democratic Socialist press is working around the clock to bury all negative press on their “chosen one,” no matter the mountain of evidence stacking up all around them.

At the same time, they attempt to keep the voting population focused upon more important things, like how John McCain is George W. Bush’s wicked clone and why Sarah Palin has a problem with her former brother-in-law tazering his ten year old step son.

The Obama press will write about Palin’s husband once belonging to the Independent Party in Alaska, while not writing about Obama once belonging to the Socialist Party (aka New Party) in Chicago, which also endorsed his campaign for the Illinois Senate.

Both the Socialist Party and Communist Party support the Obama campaign for president today, not that you will ever read that in the lamestream press.

Re-Writing Recent History

“It’s the economy stupid” has been the socialist mantra of every major election in the U.S. for decades now, beginning with Jimmy Carter. Class and Race warfare is their game.

Because the Bush economy had until recently outperformed the Clinton economy of the 90’s, something had to be done about that.

American’s won’t vote for blatant socialism unless you make them fear the soup line first. Something had to change in order to get American useful idiots to demand “change.”

This explains Democrat efforts to bury the sub-prime lending crisis that Republicans had tried to head off since 2003. It also explains the massive media effort to lay that pile of left-wing dung at Bush’s doorstep a month before the election, even though the entire crisis is a product of left-wing initiatives to force good lenders to make bad loans to unqualified borrowers, as if that bomb wasn’t going to eventually explode at an opportune time.

Obama, ACORN & Their Starring Role in the Mortgage Crisis chronicles the details of just how corrupt left-wing politics of greed and class warfare set the stage for the greatest financial crisis in modern American history.

Also interesting is the current investigations into the recent investment moves by international socialist billionaire and Obama supporter George Soros, whom appears to be making moves similar to those he made a few years back, which almost bankrupted the British currency.

In a CNN interview, Soros, a staunch backer of the Democratic Party, said, "Globalization, America as the center of the globalized financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world, - This is now over. The game is out. It does mean a very serious adjustment for America."

In other words, the socialist change he has spent millions attempting to force upon America over the years, is about to pay off. Through the “chosen messiah” Obama, change is indeed coming!

That is, IF the 30% of Americans who now officially qualify for the title of “useful idiots” are successful in their mission to exploit our most defenseless voters and can steal the U.S. election via massive voter fraud...

Americas Only Chance to Survive the 2008 Election

Stopping the gargantuan left-wing voter fraud is the key to defeating Obama and his leftist anti-American friends.

Mainstream news outlets are now forced to begin reporting what should have been the biggest stories of our generation. The Boston Herald reports - Ohio County seeks fraud investigation of ACORN.

The Wall Street Journal reports - ACORN Vote Fraud Witness in Ohio

Newsblaze reports - Another ACORN from the Obama-Biden Tree of Deceit and Fraud?

In 2004, George Soros and countless other left-wing elitist millionaires tried to buy the Oval Office for John Kerry and at this moment in that election, Kerry was running ahead of Bush, but within the margin of error. When Election Day arrived, Bush won by a three million vote margin...

Most of those DNC fraudulent voters propping up the pre-election polling data were never counted on Election Day.

This time, the effort is more than twenty times that size however. If they succeed only 10% of the time, it could be enough to steal the election.

As a result, real Americans must immediately adopt a “zero tolerance” position against systematic Democrat campaign fraud, especially registration fraud targeting the most easily misled voters.

And a list of real, probing Obama stories must take top of the fold front page headlines across this country.

Obama’s useful idiots will support him no matter what. They have NO interest in facts whatsoever. Don’t even waste your time.

But the rest of America does care about the facts that they are NOT getting from the lamestream press currently in the tank for Obama.

They are very troubled by the reality that every Obama friend is a racist, a terrorist, a communist or a criminal and that none of them like America much.

They care very much about Obama stealing the DNC nomination from Hillary Clinton, who had more supporters.

They care a great deal about the massive DNC voter fraud efforts present in this election.

They are very concerned about more than $200 million flooding into the Obama campaign from foreign sources, some of them likely enemies of our state.

They are deeply concerned that Obama has refused to deliver a certified birth certificate to prove proper citizenship and that his college files remain under lock and key less than three weeks before the election.

And well they should be... In the end, they are also very concerned about the obvious left-wing bent of the American press who has worked so hard for so long to conceal it all.

Change must come. Not left-wing socialist promises of dancing sugar plums from a man who has accomplished nothing of any value in his life, but real change... real reform of an overtly corrupt system with a decidedly leftist bent.

That’s the change real Americans are interested in. If they are to get it... they will have to demand nothing less!

Demand it now, or kiss your beloved country goodbye!

By the way... who is Donald Warden (aka Dr. Khalid Al Mansour), other than the international front man for Saudi Royalty, and why has he been grooming Obama for more than twenty years?

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21539.shtml

-- October 16, 2008 11:08 PM


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I personally have two nieces and one nephew currently attending college, only one of the three out of state. But all three have been approached dozens of times daily by on campus Obama supporters over the past few weeks, and in almost every case, they were told how they could vote twice for Obama in two separate districts without ever being caught.

My thought

How about they put a mark on the right hand of everyone who votes.. indelible and won't wash off for three days? Or an invisible one and you need a scanner to see it, and they put scanners at the polling stations? Sure, its expensive, but it will be cheap in relation to paying for all Obama's programs.. Surely there is something can be used to MARK the voters as having voted in some way? If the person has the mark, they voted already. Seems simple.. won't work for dead people voting, but it would catch anyone trying to vote twice, like the example above. After all, no law-abiding citizen would object, in light of the unprecedented voter fraud in the hundreds of thousands, which would disenfranchise their votes with illegal ones. Here, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND brand new registered voters may be in play.. and that is only one state..

Sara.

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Ohio elections chief appeals court ruling
Oct 16, 2008 /AP

COLUMBUS: Ohio's top elections chief has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in a dispute over whether the state is required to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility, a spokesman for her office said Thursday.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, filed an appeal the high court late Wednesday, said spokesman Jeff Ortega.

On Tuesday, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with the Ohio Republican Party and ordered Brunner to set up a system that provides names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers don't match records in other government databases.

The GOP contends the information for counties will help prevent fraud.

At least 200,000 newly registered voters have mismatched data, according to an initial review by Brunner's office.

Brunner's office said Wednesday that she would comply with the lower court's ruling. Ortega said the office would release a statement later Thursday on why she chose to file an appeal.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/31101144.html

-- October 17, 2008 12:37 AM


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Nothing considering Iraq has been easy. As an example, the HCL has still not passed parliment. Now, it is the SOFA agreement that will be difficult to gain consensus.
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U.S.-Iraq pact poses dilemma for Iran's allies

Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:20am EDT

By Mariam Karouny

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - For years, the Shi'ite political parties running Iraq have balanced the interests of their new allies in Washington with those of their old friends in Tehran.

Now, with a vote due on a final draft agreed with the United States on a security pact that would allow its forces to stay in Iraq for three years, they may have to choose. The "yes-or-no" vote means they will have to anger one side or the other.

Iran, which believes the pact would give its American foe a foothold in the region, opposes it. Iraqi politicians say Tehran has been exerting pressure to persuade Shi'ite lawmakers in the powerful coalition behind Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki not to approve the agreement.

"The Iranian government has put all its efforts ... into stopping the agreement, and is putting lots of pressure on the Shi'ite (parties)," said a non-Shi'ite senior government official, who backs the pact.

"The Shi'ites now are facing a very difficult choice: will they do what they think is in the interest of Iraq or will they take into consideration Iran's priorities in its struggle with the United States?," asked the official.

The bilateral pact replaces a U.N. Security Council resolution enacted after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 and will give Iraq's elected government authority over the U.S. troop presence for the first time.

The agreement was submitted this week to Iraqi leaders for approval, a first step toward ratifying it in the Iraqi parliament. But, if the two sides do not sign it by the end of the year, Baghdad will have no choice but to extend the U.N. resolution or face immediate troop withdrawal, officials say.

The commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, General Ray Odierno, has gone further. He accused Iran of trying to bribe Iraqi lawmakers to oppose the pact, although he later said there was no evidence the parliamentarians accepted any bribes.

Maliki's coalition is led by two main Shi'ite parties -- Maliki's Dawa Party and Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council -- which both forged close ties with Shi'ite Iran in exile when Iraq was ruled by Saddam Hussein.

But after U.S.-led forces ousted Saddam in 2003, Dawa and SIIC accepted U.S. help to take over power in Iraq and then formed a Shi'ite Alliance that easily won elections in 2005.

Since then, they have carefully avoided offending either Washington or Tehran.

SADR REJECTS, SISTANI SILENT

A third powerful Shi'ite group -- followers of anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr -- quit both the Shi'ite Alliance and Maliki's government last year in protest at Maliki's refusal to set a timetable for U.S. troops to leave Iraq. The group already said it opposes the pact.

Perhaps the most influential Shi'ite of all, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the country's most senior Shi'ite cleric, has yet to pronounce on it.

Maliki visited Sistani in the Shi'ite holy city of Najaf days before agreeing the final draft of the pact, a sign of how important the cleric's support for the pact would be.

A senior Shi'ite official said that Sistani was not pleased with the pact, but may not bloc it.

"He does not think it fulfils Iraq's requirements," the official said. "This pact cannot pass without Sistani's blessing, but he will never say 'Yes I approve it' -- so it will only pass if Sistani does not object to it."

IRAQ'S INTEREST

Shi'ite Alliance politicians bristle at suggestions they are being swayed by the interests of either Washington or Tehran.

"It is not as rigid as: 'If you vote for it then you are American and if you do not then you are Iranian,'" said Abbas Bayati, a senior Alliance member.

Some acknowledge pressure from Iran, but say other countries are exerting pressure too.

"We have to acknowledge that there is fear among the neighboring countries over the pact. But our decision will not be based on those pressures," said another Shi'ite lawmaker.

"There are external and internal pressures. Everybody is imposing pressure, even the Arab countries. We cannot say we are doing politics in a pressure-free country," he added.

But as long as Washington still maintains 146,000 troops in Iraq, the consequences of voting against it could be grave.

"There is a possibility that if the pact was rejected in the voting then the Americans might turn cold in supporting this Shi'ite-led political system," said the non-Shi'ite official.

"Therefore they will be faced with the decision of throwing themselves deeper into the arms of the Iranians. Other groups may revolt against them in this mixed and multi-ethnic country.
(www.reuters.com)

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-- October 17, 2008 9:53 AM


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Khalifa: Next budget to reduce due to decline in oil prices 17/10/2008 12:43:00

Baghdad (NINA) –Legislator and Parliament's Oil and Gas Committee member, Jabir Khalifa, expects that next year's budget will be considerably reduced because of world wide sharp decline in oil prices. He told NINA on Friday, October 7.
(www.ninanews.com)

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-- October 17, 2008 9:55 AM


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Abu Dhabi developer launches first large-scale Iraq project

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Abu Dhabi-based real estate investment company Al Maabar announced this week that it planned to launch a $10bn project in Baghdad, the first real estate project of this scale to be unveiled in Iraq since the 2003 invasion.

The company is backed by all four major Abu Dhabi developers; Aldar, Sorouh, Reem and Al Qudra, and the announcement comes hot on the heels of a surprise official visit to the Iraqi capital by the emirate's Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

The $10bn investment is the largest foreign financial real estate project to be unveiled in Iraq. It is planned as a mixed-use facility, including specific residential sectors, a commercial district and a hospitality district with a number of hotels and entertainment facilities including a theatre cinema and golf course.

The planned area will cover 1,250 hectares in the centre of the city, and, following guidelines laid down by Baghdad authorities will also include non-commercial public facilities such as mosques.

'The move to develop this project complements the growing levels of support that the UAE is providing to the government of Iraq. Through the direction of the Abu Dhabi leadership, Al Maabar will add real value to the countries that it invests in,' said Yousef Al Nowais, Managing Director of Al Maabar at the unveiling of the project.

'Al Maabar plans to achieve this through job creation and talent development, knowledge transfer and economic stimulus and will be working very closely with the relevant ministries in Iraq to insure that this project meets the specific needs of the Iraqi people.'

Financial diversification

Al Maabar, which was launched by the backing companies as a vehicle for international projects, already has a range of planned developments outside of the UAE, including a $1bn luxury real estate complex planned outside of Marrakech, Morocco, and a development, Abu Dhabi Plaza, in Astana, Kazakhstan in conjunction with Aldar Properties.

The group also has projects that are either planned or underway in Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Jordan and Belarus.

Abu Dhabi's major real estate companies have all sought to diversify by investing in projects outside of the emirate, although at a much more sedate pace than developers in Dubai, a strategy that now appears wise given the possible contraction of liquidity in global luxury real estate projects.

Indeed, the majority of these involve sharing responsibility by entering into partnerships with global brands to launch developments in emerging markets including North Africa and Central Asia. Many of these also look beyond the traditional remit of UAE developers, which tend to seek out high-end luxury projects, and offer accommodation for local consumption, thus targeting an existent market.

Sorouh has a number of projects underway, including a mixed use residential and 850-unit hospitality development in Morocco targeting the top end of the market, and a residential project in Egypt for 40,000 residents that will look to offer a cross section of accommodation to the local market.

As well as the Astana project, Aldar recently signed a memorandum of understanding with Bahrain-based Cebarco, which will precede an arrangement to create a joint contracting venture for real estate projects across the region. The group is also already involved with the Iskandar project in Malaysia.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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-- October 17, 2008 9:57 AM


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Sidestepping politics in Iraq

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Iraq's government struggles on

The launch of the country’s first post-war oil licensing round is evidence of a government increasingly determined to press on with economic development, against the political and bureaucratic odds.

When it emerged in a report by the US Government Accountability Office in August that Iraq had amassed a budget surplus in 2005-07 of some US$29bn, while the American administration had disbursed some US$48bn towards reconstruction since the 2003 invasion, there was predictable outrage among certain congressmen—calling for the Iraqi government to deploy more of its own revenues towards capital spending. However, the problem is less a desire on the part of the Iraqis to sponge off hard-pressed US taxpayers rather than an investment programme hampered at every point by political infighting and labyrinthine bureaucratic processes. Yet, in economics as in security, Iraqi politicians are eager to wrest back control of their own destiny.

Clear as oil

The economically critical oil sector provides a natural litmus test for the wider process of boosting the country’s GDP and attracting foreign investment—the results of which have so far boded poorly. The Petroleum Law governing the relative federal and provincial powers to sign contracts with international oil companies (IOCs) and the distribution of revenues has been languishing in draft form before parliament for months, while the federal authorities have openly clashed with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) over contracts signed independently by the latter and deemed unconstitutional by the former. Foreign firms involved in such deals—including, most recently, the UK’s Premier Oil—have been barred from pre-qualifying for federal contracts.

Having wisely decided that IOC involvement could not await more protracted political wrangling, the government decided to go ahead with development within the parameters of existing legislation, but this process also proved messy: a select group of major IOCs, including the Royal Dutch/Shell Group, the UK’s BP, the US’s ExxonMobil and Chevron and France’s Total, was lined up for controversial two-year technical service contracts—which offered little beyond a foot in the door and were subsequently reduced in planned duration to a single year before complete abandonment as the first long-term licensing round took shape. The short-term maintenance deals were designed to add 500,000 barrels/day (b/d) of the 2m b/d increase to the 4m b/d target set by the Iraqi government over the next five years.

More recent developments, however, have offered renewed hope. Representatives of 34 of pre-qualified IOCs attended a roadshow in London on October 13th to hear an outline of terms and timetable of the country’s debut licensing round, which will offer 20-year service contracts, linking rewards to production levels—without ceding the sacrosanct national ownership of natural resources—and asking companies to propose a cost fee and guarantee minimum investment. Bids are due in six months with awards expected by the middle of the 2009. Full contract details will be published only after further negotiations with the concerned companies, according to the oil minister, Hussein al-Shahristani.

The six oilfields and two gasfields included are all already producing, but well below potential. Foreign firms will enter 49:51 joint ventures with either North Oil Company or South Oil Company, both state-owned. A second licensing round is due to be launched by the end of the year, in a signal of the new-found urgency of efforts to capitalise on the country's vast, but historically underexploited oil and gas reserves.

Furthermore, the thorny question, periodically re-emerging since the invasion, of the status of major Saddam-era contracts is being resolved, albeit in a piecemeal manner: in early September, a deal with China National Petroleum Corporation for the US$3bn development of the Al-Ahdab field was revived, although the terms were altered to a service contract rather than a production-sharing agreement; on the other hand, the much-discussed contract for Russia’s state-owned Lukoil to proceed with development of the West Qurna-2 field was finally declared void, with the acreage instead to be offered in the next bid round.

Shell's gas coup

Separately—to a degree of puzzlement and criticism at the direct negotiation approach—Shell signed a deal in early September worth an estimated US$4bn to invest alongside the government in capturing and processing gas currently flared from the southern fields around Basra. The Anglo-Dutch firm has emerged as one of the most eager to be an early-mover in foreign entry to the industry, doggedly pursuing the short-term deals shunned by others in order to secure a foothold and earn the new authorities’ goodwill. Gas development is also under way in the KRG-administered north by UAE-based Dana Gas and its biggest shareholder Crescent Petroleum—supplying 150m cu ft/day from the Khor Mor field to a “gas city” where it will be processed for domestic use in the power generation and industrial sectors, escaping the legislative controversy of deals potentially involving exports.

Power shortages

Dana Gas and Crescent have expressed their desire to replicate the model in Basra and Al-Anbar, in the west, and certainly such sectors are in need of a fillip from all angles. With years having passed since the toppling of the old regime, the electricity sector in particular remains in a perilous state—producing less even than the theoretical capacity of 5,500 mw in the face of demand estimated at some 11,000 mw. In power, as in oil, the prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, has belatedly recognised the need to streamline decision-making structures to avoid political and bureaucratic bottlenecks and thus staunch politically dangerous popular discontent at the lack of basic amenities. In July, a National Council for Reconstruction & Development was created with the power to bypass ministries in negotiating and signing contracts in strategic sectors. Since the summer, multibillion-dollar memoranda of understanding have been signed with the US’s GE and Germany’s Siemens to supply equipment under a generation expansion programme aimed at closing the demand/supply gap by 2012.

Progress in the cement industry—critical for reconstruction but at present dependent on imports—has been swifter, with contracts in place for the rehabilitation of three plants as part of a plan to restore potential nationwide capacity estimated at about 25m tonnes/year from the 4m-5m t/y currently churned out. Petrochemicals have been identified as another industrial priority, while further down the line, tourism evidently offers massive potential given the wealth of historic sites dotted around the country. The Abu Dhabi government-affiliated Al-Maabar real estate consortium in mid-October announced plans for a US$10bn mixed-use project in Baghdad, including residential, tourism, commercial and leisure facilities, while, more fancifully, Iraq’s tourist board the previous month revealed plans to seek investment in Al A’arass island on the Tigris river near the capital’s Green Zone, reviving a resort once popular with honeymooning couples. For the time being, however, while suicide bombings and sectarian violence persist, oil and industry appear a safer bet than lovelorn newlyweds for investors seeking to exploit Iraq’s myriad potential riches.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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-- October 17, 2008 9:59 AM


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Clearing the roadblocks for US-Iraq agreement
By Mohammad Akef Jamal

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17 October 2008 (Gulf News)
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The US has extended its influence throughout the world with treaties and agreements, thereby securing its status as a major military and political power. And irrespective of the wording of the treaties or accords, the US has categorised its partners into two groups - friends, and subordinates.

Basically, treaties and accords are partnership contracts signed between two countries or more, to mutually safeguard the interests and security of all the parties to the agreement.

In most treaties, there is one powerful partner. There is also provisions for such agreements to include financial, scientific and cultural aid, which is usually availed by the weaker partner in the pact.

The security treaty between the US and Iraq has become a popular political topic for discussion in Iraq and the Middle East, as its signing is round the corner.

Both the Iraqis and Americans have been keen on reaching an agreement on security since the US President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki signed a joint declaration last November. The joint declaration laid down the principles for a broad agreement to be negotiated in 2008 to define the future relationship between their respective countries and guarantee the presence of American troops in Iraq for at least a few more years.

Life saver

The joint declaration called for future political, economic and security relations between Baghdad and Washington to be further negotiated. To Baghdad, this treaty is the lifesaver that will rescue it from the United Nation's Chapter 7 status, a legal designation that has in effect classified Iraq as a pariah state since former Iraqi president Saddam Hussain invaded Kuwait in 1990.

To the current US administration, the treaty will boost the Republican Party's stance and the winning prospects of its presidential candidate in next month's elections. It will also help in assuring the US public opinion about the future of the US troops in Iraq.

The obstructed and often delayed US-Iraqi negotiations were obvious to observers. The disagreement amongst Iraqis regarding the agreement was also noticeable.

As a result, the whole dossier was removed from the Iraqi ministry of foreign affairs and given to the Iraqi prime minister's closest circle.

This stalemate was taken care of by the US by sending Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte on a surprise visit to Iraq. Negroponte met senior Iraqi officials to discuss political, security, and economic progress in the country. The Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) was the major point on the agenda, as Negroponte has long held the reputation of being America's diplomatic strong-arm man.

The US has agreed on pulling out its troops outside Iraqi cities by mid-2009 and a total withdrawal of its forces by the end of 2011.

This move will help in easing worries about the US public opinion and anti-Iraqi sentiments towards SOFA.

The proposed agreement whose terms and conditions are still being negotiated, includes a provision that says the withdrawal could be extended beyond 2011 depending on the security situation.

The military deal also states that some US troops could remain in Iraq to train Iraqi security forces.

As a result, the Iraqi political field witnessed a dual action by Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki. He turned to the holy city of Najaf for support from Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani, and the Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament, Mahmoud Al Mash'hadani. He also allayed the fears of Tehran and Damascus.

The first entities to be effected by the US-Iraqi SOFA are the countries adjacent to Iraq, as the US existence in Iraq will no doubt imply new internal tactics and further adjustments to external policies.

Four of Iraq's neighbouring countries do not have a problem concerning the SOFA, as they are either the US's friends or allies.

On the other hand, certain political forces in Iraq are completely against the agreement because they believe that Iraq would not gain anything from it. There are others who oppose the agreement to express their solidarity with the Iranians who are against it. Still there are some who have reservations on the long term clauses of the pact.

Most of the forces that accept, refuse or have doubts about the SOFA are in a precarious position.

The US occupation in Iraq has created a situation where the conventional political estimation and evaluation have collapsed completely.

Different papers have been mixed and tumbled together, and many elementary concepts regarding patriotism are being misunderstood by these forces.

Those rejecting the agreement are in two different camps: one group will give in and accept the SOFA despite their basic refusal, because they need to be a part of the ruling elite in Iraq and the other group which rejects the SOFA, has been discarded and has no official status in the government, but will accept the agreement because it will preserve the unity of Iraq.

The strongest opponent of SOFA is Iran, which has a powerful influence in the Iraqi political scene.

Iran is also the sole rival of the US in the region. Iran objects to SOFA because it does not want to lose its grip on the Iraqi government and related politics.

The differences between the Iraqi political groups regarding the SOFA is no more a secret, and as each group accuses the other groups of standing with or against Iran, the US started escalating its accusations against Iran as well.

General Raymond Odierno, the commander of the multi-national forces in Iraq announced that Iran was bribing Iraqi parliamentarians to oppose SOFA. Both the US and Iraq are trying their best to keep details about the agreement as diplomatic as possible.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

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-- October 17, 2008 10:03 AM


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MPs discuss security draft behind closed doors
By Basil Adas

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Baghdad, 17 October 2008 (Gulf News)
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As the Iraqi government analyses the final draft of a security pact with the United States before submitting it to parliament, MPs are discussing it behind closed doors.

"We will accept the draft agreement if we make sure it respects Iraqi sovereignty and the interests of the Iraqi people. But this does not mean we will quickly pass the draft, as there is no incentive to do so," a leader in the Shiite Alliance bloc, Hassan Sari, told Gulf News.

Political observers in Baghdad say that parliamentary approval is conditional upon the confirmation that the withdrawal date for American troops of December 31, 2011, will not be moved.

"Iraq needs a security agreement with the US to ensure the security of its borders and prevent the intervention of regional states in its affairs. Therefore we will agree on this pact after ensuring that it is committed to the sovereignty and the interests of Iraqis and that the neighbouring countries will leave Iraq to decide its own destiny," Khalaf Al Olayan, a leader of the Sunni Accordance Front, told Gulf News.

According to sources, one of the differences on the draft agreement is the desire of the US government to appoint thousands of personnel at its embassy in Baghdad.

"We do not want to reject the draft but there are issues to be discussed within the Iraqi parliament, including the broad US diplomatic presence in Iraq, which would be like a small army," Mohammad Al Tamimi, Vice-Chairman of the Arab Bloc Front for National Dialogue, told Gulf News.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 17, 2008 10:06 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

More Arab governments are now open to democracy
By Marwan Kabalan, Special to Gulf News
Published: October 16, 2008, 23:47

Regardless of what western politicians and scholars think of the relationship between Islam and democracy, the truth is that the more Arab governments have been a great deal more open to democracy and change compared to the secular and more radical ones.

For decades, western academia has regarded traditional regimes as a major hurdle toward the establishment of modern and functioning democracies in the Middle East. Acting on this scholarly belief, the US government received positively the coup of the free officers in Egypt and did not seem to be bothered by the toppling of the Iraqi royal family in 1958. It, furthermore, assisted the first Syrian military coup in 1949 and is believed to have had connections with the third one. The overriding argument was that a Mustapa Kemal Ataturk-like leader was better equipped to start a modernisation process from the top, attempting to change, forcibly if necessary, the conservative culture of Middle Eastern societies.

These theories proved baseless. The past five decades have shown that the ruling secular elites in the Arab world have been a great deal more reluctant to democratise, or even modernise, than had been initially anticipated. In Egypt, Libya, Syria and Iraq, where western-oriented elites overthrew traditional regimes, the development process was badly handled so that they ended up becoming poorer and underdeveloped.

By contrast, the traditional regimes, which survived the revolutionary tide of the 1950s and 1960s, proved to be more rational, adapting quickly to rapidly changing regional and international conditions. In addition, most of the traditional regimes have understood the implications of big international events, such as the collapse of the Soviet Union, the 1991 Gulf War and the latest war on Iraq and undertook limited, but vital steps toward democratisation. The secular and westernised regimes, by comparison, resisted change and tried to thwart any attempt towards democratisation, or political liberalisation.

One way of explaining this contrast involves referring to the different nature, culture and political structures of monarchies and republics in the Arab world. Unlike republican regimes, the institutions of traditional regimes provide a fertile ground for the concept of power-sharing.

In traditional regimes, the concept of consultation occupies a central stage. Traditional political institutions, hence, are more open to compromises than their revolutionary counterparts. In addition, monarchs do not claim their power by virtue of a popular mandate. Instead, the mechanism by which they assume power is institutionally independent of the popular will, expressed through elections or other means.

Traditional regimes can, therefore, hold free elections and allow their people a voice in the conduct of the government without surrendering their thrones, or all the power that goes with them. Other sorts of modern authoritarianism, by contrast, claim a popular mandate to rule; usually through elections that express the will of the people they represent.

The rulers of a single party or military regimes, without holding elections might claim that they serve the general will, or they might hold elections, but rig them. Yet, they are rarely so bold as to hold free elections which may rob them of the very legitimacy they claim to possess.

It must not be a surprising, therefore, that for authoritarian leaders of the populist variety, elections must be won; for traditional regimes, elections must merely return deputies to the parliament.

When traditional regimes come under pressure to liberalise, they consequently find it much easier to negotiate parliamentary openings. This explains why rulers usually make sure that elections are fair, or largely fair and when they do not wish to hold fair elections, they usually hold none at all. This throws into question the widely prevalent belief that secularisation is a pre-condition for democratisation; something western academia needs to reassess and reconsider the relationship between the two.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 17, 2008 10:10 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi leaders face new test for security deal with Washington

Politics 10/17/2008 11:53:00 AM



By Mohammad Al-Ghazzi BAGHDAD, Oct 17 (KUNA) -- As the Iraqi Political Council for National Security is set to convene later on Friday to mull over a long-term security pact with Washington, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the deal had no secret items.
He even made it certain that it included contents that would oblige the US not to use Iraq to harm any other country.
Iraqi Vice-President Tareq Hashemi said the deal would not allow Iraq to poke its nose into the affairs of its neighboring countries, while obliging the US to defend the country in case of foreign aggression.
The council's meeting comes following a Thursday gathering involving Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, his deputies Adel Abdelmahdi, Tareq al-Hashemi, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Kurdistan Regional President Masud Barzani.
The meeting focused on the long-term security pact between Iraq and the US, which will be discussed by the council earlier in the day, and then be sent to the parliament for further deliberations and passage.
Responding to a question by KUNA during his meeting with a visiting Kuwaiti press delegation, the Iraqi premier said the draft deal had been distributed to all members of the council and would be discussed in full transparency ahead of referring it to the parliament, which would have the final say.
But, he said the council's opinion on the pact is not binding for the cabinet or the parliament, but its approval would be very significant on the basis that it includes members of parliamentary blocs.
He vowed to brief all neighboring countries, mainly Kuwait, on the details of the pact with the US.
"We will keep His Highness the Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser Al-Mohammad Al-Sabah posted on the deal during his coming visit (to Iraq). We do not want the Iraqi people or neighboring countries to hear that the deal contains secret items," he promised.
Echoing the prime minister, al-Hashemi told KUNA that Iraq would never interfere in the internal affairs of its neighbors, dismissing that the deal might include the possibility of using Iraqi soil in military operations against any neighboring country.
Iraq is keen on its relations with its neighbors, he said, noting that the deal would allow the US to defend Iraq in case of any potential foreign aggression.
Iraq is not a party to the US-Iranian conflict over Tehran's nuclear program and other issues, al-Hashemi said.
Muwafaq al-Rubaie, the Iraqi national security advisor, said the deal had negative and positive points altogether, but said it would be in the interest of his country.
Under the deal, US troops will leave Iraq by the end of 2011, and in May 2009, they will leave Iraqi visits and villages to stay only in their bases, he said.
Earlier on Wednesday, the Iraqi prime minister submitted a final draft of the security agreement with the United States to political leaders for review, after months of negotiations with Washington.
"The agreement on the temporary presence of troops and their withdrawal has been distributed today to the members of the political council for national security, which will meet on Friday to discuss the draft," Maliki's spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said.
"The government decided that the draft should take its constitutional path through the cabinet and parliament," he added. "It's the first step ... for Iraqi politicians to discuss and to decide finally their stance on the agreement." The remarks suggest Baghdad and Washington are close to finally unveiling details of the security pact, which they have been hammering out for months.
The bilateral pact will replace a U.N. Security Council resolution authorising U.S. troops to remain in Iraq, which expires at the end of this year.
The deal has been held up so far while the two sides discuss issues such as whether and under what circumstances U.S. troops can be tried in Iraqi court.
The political council for security includes leaders of Iraq's main parties, whom Maliki has pledged to consult before referring the pact to a vote by his cabinet.
If the cabinet and the council approve the pact, the government will then submit it to parliament for a vote. (end) mhg.mt KUNA 171153 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 17, 2008 10:26 AM


Tsalagi wrote:

This one always seems to surface around election time, but always a great rerun!

***ARE YOU **DEMOCRAT**REPUBLICAN**OR REDNECK? ***

*Here is a little test that will help you decide:*
*
You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small
children. Suddenly, an Islamic terrorist with a huge knife comes around
the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah,
raises the knife, and charges at you.*
*
You are carrying a Glock cal 40, and you are an expert shot. You have
mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.*
*
What do you do?*

*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *

*_Democrat's Answer_*

*
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!*
*Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?*
*Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?*
*
Could we run away?*
*
What does my wife think? What about the kids?*
*
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of
his hand?*
*
What does the law say about this situation?*
*Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?*
*
Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does
this send to society and to my children?*
*
Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?*
*Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to
wound me?*
*
If I were to grab his knees and hold on , could my family get away while
he was stabbing me?*
*
Should I call 9-1-1 ?

Why is this street so deserted?*
*
We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a
happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.*
*This is all so confusing!*
*
I need to discuss with some friends over a latte and try to come to a
consensus.*

*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
*_
Republican's_**_ Answer_*
*
BANG!** *


*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*

*_
Redneck's_**_ Answer_*

*
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click....*
*
(sounds of reloading)*
*
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click

Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips
or Hollow Points?'
Son: 'You got him, Pop! Can I shoot the next one?'

Wife: 'You are not taking that to the taxidermist ! *
*##################################################*

**

*AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT TEXAS! :-) *
*Yeeeee-Haaaaaaaa*

-- October 17, 2008 10:49 AM


Sara wrote:

Tsalagi, thanks for the spot of humor. :)

I was watching the exerpts from John McCain's roasting Obama yesterday.. very funny.
Thought you might like to watch them, too.
As always, he shows he is a gentleman and manages to find something nice to say about his opponent, even in the heat of battle.
I guess that makes him a bit like the Democrat in your post..
Though he seems to fire off a shot of two like a Republican or Redneck, too.

YouTube - John McCain Brings Down The House - Al Smith Dinner

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goaj5V4tZoc

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrqoSyKsAPw&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_167987

-- October 17, 2008 12:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Nice to see a gain to within the margin of error or TWO POINTS today:

==

AP poll: Obama 44, McCain 42 [PDF]

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/elections/ap_election_wave8_topline_101308.pdf

-- October 17, 2008 12:06 PM


Sara wrote:

Sistani supports Iraq-US military agreement
October 17, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Nouri al-Maliki won support from Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani for a continuing military alliance with the United States. Sistani endorsed Maliki’s plan for the status-of-forces agreement, support that will help Maliki with key Shi’ite constituencies in the National Assembly. Al-Sabaah reported the development yesterday, and note the mention of American concessions (via TMV):
QUOTE:

Informed sources revealed yesterday to Al-Sabaah that the government received a new draft of the convention on security with the United States two days ago. President Jalal al-Talabani along with the Prime Minister were very clear in pointing out that the United States had made concessions on several points of contention in the agreement. At a press conference in Najaf after his meeting with Grand Ayatollah Sistani, al-Maliki said that talks on the security agreement with the United States are in their final stages, but he acknowledged that there are still points that need research and deliberation, and that “the final review still isn’t complete.”

Regarding the religious authority’s opinion on the agreement, al-Maliki said: “Grand Ayatollah Sistani entrusts Iraqis and their political leaders to decide on what to agree to and rely upon.” Al-Maliki stressed that Ayatollah Sistani, “had no objections to anything we achieve through the efforts of Iraq’s officials and institutions, provided that all segments of the Iraqi people participate and that it is constitutional. In addition, he said that it mustn’t be something imposed on the Iraqi people.”

The Prime Minister revealed some of the progress and positive points that have been made in the ongoing discussions with the United States, notably in regard to limiting the duration of the presence of American forces in Iraq. This will be completely terminated by the end of 2011, and in addition, American forces will be completely withdrawn from Iraq’s cities and towns by the middle of next year [2009].

==end quote===

The need for American concessions became obvious when the Iraqis rejected out of hand the first US proposals on the SOFA. The nature of those concessions aren’t apparent from this report, but it obviously doesn’t include the American insistence on immunity from Iraqi prosecution for US military personnel. Maliki mentioned that as an open question while calling the status of the SOFA negotiations “final stages”.

Maliki predicted that an agreement would be reached by the end of the year, and his meeting with Sistani clearly intends to achieve that. In order to mollify Shi’ite political leaders, who don’t want American troops in Iraq any longer than necessary after our partnership with the Sunnis, Sistani would have to approve of the policy Maliki intends to follow. He’s plowing the ground, pre-empting any potential opposition to the SOFA at least enough to ensure its passage in the National Assembly once complete.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/sistani-supports-iraq-us-military-agreement/

-- October 17, 2008 12:11 PM


Sara wrote:

So different than Vietnam.. thank the Lord. :)

In football terms, Kelly says, the Marines are "in the last 10 yards of this fight."

"Could it go back? I don't think so," he said firmly. "We are winning this thing."

===

Last One Turn Out the Lights: Marines Quietly Begin Leaving Bases in Iraqi Cities
Friday, October 17, 2008
By Jennifer Griffin / AP / Fox News
In the past 10 months, Marines have quietly transferred out of Fallujah, one of Anbar province's largest cities. The move, set to finish Nov. 14, is already 80 percent complete.

WASHINGTON — When Marine Maj. Gen. John Kelly deployed to Iraq in February, the violence had fallen so low in Anbar province that he began figuring out how to start closing bases and prepare to go home.

In the last 10 months the Marines in Fallujah have done what was unthinkable before the surge began — they have quietly transferred out of one of Anbar province's largest cities. FOX News has learned in an exclusive interview with Kelly from Fallujah that 80 percent of the move is complete. In February there were 8,000 Marines living at Fallujah base. Now there are about 3,000 left. By Nov. 14 there will be none.

"We will shut down the command function here and I will move; my staff has already started to move," Kelly, the commander of Multinational Force-West, told FOX News in an exclusive interview via satellite. "We will turn the lights off here."

They will hand the Fallujah base over to their Iraqi counterparts on Nov. 14, having relocated themselves and thousands of combat vehicles to the desert base of Al Asad to the west. Marines will no longer be seen in city centers such as Fallujah — a major step toward leaving Iraq, and one step closer to Iraq's goal of having U.S. troops out of its population centers by mid-2009 — one of the key points enshrined in the Status of Forces Agreement being reviewed on Capitol Hill today.

On Wednesday, to little fanfare, the Marines quietly closed down Al Qaim base near the Syrian border. Now it is run by Iraqis.

In Fallujah, where the U.S. Marines once had three large mess halls to feed troops, they are now down to one. The Marines have quietly disassembled the entire infrastructure of the base.

"We probably had several thousand of those large metal containers — tractor-trailer containers," Kelly said. "I bet we don't have 200 of them here now."

Of the thousands of vehicles once parked at the base, now there are only 300 left. Their transfer occurred at night, between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m., over the past 10 months so as not to disturb Iraqi drivers and clog the roads.

They dubbed it "Operation Rudy Giuliani" because they were cleaning the streets up and returning Fallujah to normalcy — taking down barbed wire and tearing down checkpoints and Jersey walls that made Anbar look like a war zone.

"There is almost no barbed wire left anywhere in Fallujah," Kelly said. An Iraqi no longer sees barbed wire when traveling in and around the city.

Between 300 and 400 concrete barriers that divided the city were removed by Navy Seabees.

Perhaps the biggest sign that the situation has changed for the better for Sunnis living in Anbar: With the help of the Marines and the Iraqi police, nearly 100 percent of the eligible voting population were registered a month ago to vote in upcoming provincial elections.

"They seem to add another political party every day," Kelly said. "We didn't have a single security violation of any kind. They're at least going to give the electoral process a shot … at least going to give democracy a chance."

The Sunnis, who fueled a large part of Iraq's insurgency, boycotted the last election for Parliament with only 3 percent of Sunnis participating. Now they feel they have a stake in the government.

"This is an amazing indicator as to where this province is," Kelly said.

He and the Marines no longer use violence as an indicator of how much progress they have made. Two years ago they had 400 attacks — roadside bombs or shootings — at U.S. forces every week. In February it was down to 30 attacks per week. Now it is down to under 12 attacks per week. There hasn't been a Marine death in a few months.

Troop numbers have dropped, as well — down by 40 percent since February. About 26,000 Marines still serve in Anbar.

"In Anbar there is no longer an insurgency," Kelly said. "Unless someone does something stupid (for instance, if the Coalition were to accidentally kill a large number of civilians), this place will not go back to the way it was."

In football terms, Kelly says, the Marines are "in the last 10 yards of this fight."

"Could it go back? I don't think so," he said firmly. "We are winning this thing."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439612,00.html

-- October 17, 2008 12:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama supporter steals vote from disabled man
October 17, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Georgia state officials have begun an investigation into Primus Industries and the alleged voter fraud committed by one or more of its employees. Jack Justice attends the adult day care provided by Primus for mentally-challenged individuals, and one or more Primus aides took them to an early voting event without permission from their families. Once in the booth, the aide cast the ballot for Barack Obama over Justice’s protestations:

SEE: http://www.walb.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?vt1=v&clipFormat=undefined&clipId1=3025617&at1=News&h1=Assisted

WALB does a good job in its initial report on the story. If the Tanning Bed Media gets involved, which of these people/entities would get violated by invading their privacy unnecessarily?

- Primus Industries’ owners
- The aide that stole the vote
- Jack Justice

I suspect the answer is #3. Read Michelle’s column today on Operation Destroy Joe the Plumber, and you’ll probably agree. We would probably have to give this the name Operation Destroy Justice.

The aide may have more problems than just a voter-fraud charge, although that’s enough; it’s a felony in most cases. If he or she signed an oath as the report states, then Georgia could also charge the aide with perjury, which will get several years in prison. Maybe the aide will hope for a presidential pardon if he or she steals enough votes …

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/obama-supporters-steal-vote-from-disabled-man/

-- October 17, 2008 12:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Truly a super ad:

===

NRSC ad: Who’s to blame?
October 17, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

If I had a dime for every time I’ve heard someone say, “There’s enough blame to go around” or “We don’t need to play the blame game,” I could bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac myself. Unsupported fingerpointing never helps, but analyzing the policies and actions that led to the Fannie/Freddie collapse is an absolute requirement if we hope to prevent another collapse in the future. That means politicians who supported those bad policies and blocked action that would have corrected the problem will have to face the music — and we’d better make that happen sooner rather than later.

The National Republican Senatorial Committee has an ad out explaining what happened, who kept blowing sunshine up our collective skirt, and who tried to stop the trainwreck from happening:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXadMts7SQw

I’d say that’s an effective ad, especially since it uses the actual clips of leading Democrats to demonstrate their attempts to keep Fannie/Freddie’s market distortions operational. Too bad it runs over 2 minutes; I would like to see this get played on television stations nationwide in the last two weeks of the election.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/nrsc-ad-whos-to-blame/

-- October 17, 2008 4:34 PM


Sara wrote:

Just a note on that poll I mentioned, because this take on it mentions that, quote, "which means McCain might in fact be doing even better than the new data indicates:"

===

Hope and change: Obama 44, McCain 42, says new AP poll
October 17, 2008
by Allahpundit

How biased is the AP’s spin of the data? So biased that the bombshell topline result, which drew banner treatment on Drudge a few hours ago as a rebuke to the CW about an impending Obama landslide, isn’t even mentioned in the story. To find out that it’s 44/42, you have to download the PDF and pore through the crosstabs.

The “waves” reflect the fact that the poll was conducted over 10 days, from October 3 to October 13. Here’s the sample over time, showing a huge 13-point lean towards the Dems in wave eight. Michael Barone thinks the actual spread among voters is probably eight or nine points, which means McCain might in fact be doing even better than the new data indicates:

Wave seven, which would have been sampled around a week ago, has a 12-point Democratic spread and a two-point lead for McCain, at a moment when virtually every other poll in the country was showing Obama up by five or six points. Make of it what you will.

Rasmussen and Gallup? Still four points and two points among likelies, respectively.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/hope-and-change-obama-44-mccain-42-says-new-ap-poll/

-- October 17, 2008 4:42 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Efforts to improve Iraq's Economy by lifting Zeros from the Dinar. Do you limit inflation?

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Report .. efforts to improve Iraq's economy by lifting the zeros from the dinar .. Do you limit the inflation?

Good morning ... continue vigorous efforts to promote economic reality in Iraq, which suffered many crises and bottlenecks in the past years due to financial policies that are followed in the past decades, which have raised more clear the Iraqi reality and become impede the overall activities of life and where .. Alarming rates of inflation and unemployment and rampant corruption, but clear images on the size of the damage to the economic process in Iraq at the moment ..

In the meantime, the government efforts to improve the image of the Iraqi economy is still going on the whole, then, of which only a series of measures aimed at a comprehensive economic reform process in the country .. have resorted to the issuance of the Iraqi investment law, which is the first product of the economic achievements Achievements of the Iraqi government and allowing foreign companies working in Iraq and gives them many tax concessions or customs, and after that she (the government) to raise interest rates at the Central Bank of Iraq in order to absorb the inflation that took to worsen in recent periods has been able through this procedure and to Some extent to control the inflation rates in Iraq, which took hinder the growth process is dreadfully ,,,..

those procedures were followed by many steps to revive the Iraqi economy, supporting the private sector and to open the way for international oil companies to invest in Iraq and the aim of increasing oil production Thereby raising the value of financial returns to the country, as well as other measures were not followed the founding of the latest national investment, which will take responsibility for organizing the work of companies wishing to invest in Iraq and give them work permits and identify the needs of the country from the nature of these investments ..

In that regard, reports Issued by the Central Bank of Iraq According to the structure of the bank to raise three zeroes from the Iraqi dinar in an effort to reduce the enormous mass of cash in circulation now in Iraq, amounting to 20 trillion dinars in order to deliver 15 billion Iraqi dinars, and reports indicate that the benefit of doing so is In the siege of inflation and eliminate once and mention that this will be reflected positively on overall economic reality in Iraq and the daily dealings between people and on bank transactions and Iraqi banks ..

He noted a senior expert at the Central Bank to cut the new currency will give a lot of prosperity and stability in the availability of liquidity high and strong and facilitate transactions in line with the stage of growth and economic prosperity optimistic that Iraq will happen in the months or years to come.

The expert reported that Iraq has suffered from hyperinflation in the past two decades, which was reflected in hyperinflation, rising monetary issuance of approximately 25 billion dinars in the early nineties, as in 2003, six thousand billion, and if we add significant structural changes on the size of the budget that is A monetary expansion of the bloc, we can say that the country does not have the discussions thus a large amount of cash currency units, a legacy of hyperinflation stage ..

In the case of the lifting of the zeroes on the Iraqi dinar, the huge mass of cash will be reduced significantly in Iraq, which will facilitate Many businessmen and investors from trading the currency market after the Iraqi-Faisal was in cash trading in the country is the dinar as it offers easy cash in circulation and add tremendous ..

The appearance of Mohammed Saleh: that the bank decided within the future plan will begin implementation next year Removal project three zeros from the Iraqi currency, which is now experiencing inflation and Atrala can not be remedied only through this project, which will give a lot of prosperity and stability in the availability of liquidity high and strong and facilitate transactions in line with the stage of growth and economic prosperity optimistic that Iraq will happen in the months or years to come, Available, that "relatively long-term project would be included in the cash economy to gradually add a lot of comfort and harmony in the economic situation.

But Saleh said that the project needed more maturity and carefully before proceeding to implement that, if applied directly overburden citizens may cause problems even in monetary transactions between people.

When the start application will heed the grading and application progress and will not make any change in the currency, with people running their carrier for banks to exchange the first step but would continue to deal in both existing and new until the exhaustion of the market naturally and without the citizens feel so.

The critical issue in Iraq in 1980 did not exceed 4 billion Iraqi dinars, with the highest category in the Iraqi currency is the category of 25 dinars, which were drawn, that while U.S. $75. At the present time, inflation, which was due to wars, conflicts and critical mass blockade was measured with the present Monetary issuance of up to (20) trillion Iraqi dinars, while the largest cash is 25 thousand dinars, which are not worth only 22 dollars, Saleh added that the Iraqi economy based on his dealings in the monetary system, called Balkash any direct cash transactions because of weak banking systems and mechanisms and circumstance Find this type of transactions and fears of citizens from dealing with banks and others.

We need time to normalize the citizens, such as these transactions such as direct and thus a hike up cash for (20) trillion dinars created a need for large groups and this is why the demand for the dollar to the completion of insider trading (dollarization), despite the high value of the Iraqi dinar.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.hewarat.dk/hewarat_data.php%3Fsid%3D12047&prev=/language_tools

-- October 18, 2008 1:24 PM


Sara wrote:

Documenting Obama's flip-flop on Iraq..
QUOTE:

Mr. Obama's position has changed, however, during the campaign. He was outspoken about setting a withdrawal date... More recently, he has conditioned the pace of a pullout on realities on the ground.

Obama, again, changing to McCain's position, as he takes up the learning curve and does on-the-job training under McCain's tutelage. Or simply lies for the convenience of getting votes, to resume with his previous position at a later date - in this case disastrously, as precipitous withdrawl is untenable on the ground and a threat to Iraq's security and stability.

Sara.

===

Albright opposes Iraq pullout deadline
Friday, October 17, 2008
Nicholas Kralev

NEWSMAKER INTERVIEW:

Former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright said Thursday the Iraq war has created damaging consequences for U.S. diplomacy, but Washington should not agree to a specific deadline for withdrawing troops in the midst of conflict - something proposed last year by the candidate she now supports, Sen. Barack Obama.

"I never was for a date certain," Mrs. Albright told editors and reporters at The Washington Times. "In Bosnia, we gave a date certain, and then we couldn't get out and that undercut our credibility."

She was referring to the pullout of 20,000 U.S. troops from the war-torn Balkans. The troops were sent to help enforce the 1995 Dayton peace accords that ended the Bosnia war, following the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, but stayed beyond a 1996 deadline initially set by President Clinton.

Mr. Obama has said that he is committed to ending the Iraq war, and that, if elected, he will start working toward that goal on his first day in the White House. He has also said that "the removal of our troops will be responsible and phased."

"Military experts believe we can safely redeploy combat brigades from Iraq at a pace of one to two brigades a month that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 - more than 7 years after the war began," the Obama campaign Web site says.

Mr. Obama's position has changed, however, during the campaign. He was outspoken about setting a withdrawal date during the primaries and voted for legislation that included timelines.

In early 2007, he proposed a Senate bill that would have removed all combat brigades from Iraq by March 31, 2008. "The days of our open-ended commitment must come to a close," he said at the time.

More recently, he has conditioned the pace of a pullout on realities on the ground.

Mrs. Albright called for "a plan to get out in a systematic way." She said she supports a timeline, which she insisted is different from a "date certain."

Both the Iraqi government and the Bush administration have embraced the idea of a timetable as part of an agreement that is near completion. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has said the agreement will call for the redeployment of all U.S. combat troops from Iraqi cities by next year, and the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces by the end of 2011.

Mrs. Albright said she understood the rationale for the Iraq war but not the timing. At the same time, she criticized European countries for not doing enough to stabilize Iraq.

"The U.S. did not start World War I and II, but when we saw that it affected our national interest, we went in there and did something about it," she said. "Countries might have disagreed with how this started, but a totally destabilized Iraq doesn't help their national interest, either."

She said other countries have gone too far in their finger-pointing when it comes to U.S. leadership.

"I find it very difficult to deal with everybody blaming America for everything. It drives me crazy. In addition to Iraq, now they are going to blame us for their economic problems," she said.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/17/albright-opposes-iraq-pullout-deadline/print/

-- October 18, 2008 2:10 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain today:

"Did you happen to see that Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi anticipates a 250-seat majority" in the House, the senator asked. "My friends, we can't let that happen. My friends, taxes will increase, spending and they'll concede defeat in Iraq."

A "minor" point in the election now??

Sara.

===

McCain suggests Obama tax policies are socialist
By GLEN JOHNSON / AP
Oct 18 2008

CONCORD, N.C. – Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Saturday accused Democratic rival Barack Obama of favoring a socialistic economic approach by supporting tax cuts and tax credits McCain says would merely shuffle wealth rather than creating it.

"At least in Europe, the Socialist leaders who so admire my opponent are upfront about their objectives," McCain said in a radio address. "They use real numbers and honest language. And we should demand equal candor from Sen. Obama. Raising taxes on some in order to give checks to others is not a tax cut; it's just another government giveaway."

He also was sharply critical of the Bush administration, saying it should be more aggressive in buying up the home mortgages of those trapped by high interest rates and falling housing values.

"The administration is not doing it. The secretary of the Treasury is not doing it," McCain told the crowd. "We need to buy up these mortgages, give you a mortgage that you can afford, so you can pay your mortgage and realize the American Dream of owning your home."

McCain stoked the crowd by accusing Obama and his fellow Democrats of assuming they will not only win the White House but expand their congressional majority.

"Did you happen to see that Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi anticipates a 250-seat majority" in the House, the senator asked. "My friends, we can't let that happen. My friends, taxes will increase, spending and they'll concede defeat in Iraq."

On Sunday, McCain was to travel to Ohio, where he might appear with "Joe the Plumber," the Holland, Ohio, plumber Joe Wurzelbacher whom the senator has been portraying as emblematic of people with concerns about Obama's tax plans.

Wurzelbacher became the focal point of the final presidential debate after he met Obama earlier in the week and said the Democrat's tax proposal could keep him from buying the two-man plumbing company where he works.

Obama has said his tax policies would cut payments for 95 percent of working Americans, while increasing them only for families making more than $250,000 a year. McCain has argued that 40 percent of Americans don't pay income taxes, either because they are seniors or don't meet minimum earnings thresholds, so the only way to cut their taxes is to give them various credits.

"In other words, Barack Obama's tax plan would convert the IRS into a giant welfare agency, redistributing massive amounts of wealth at the direction of politicians in Washington," McCain said in the radio address.

An Obama spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/ap_on_el_pr/mccain;_ylt=AuJGR73xnIPI0WH7oRnA1mIDW7oF

-- October 18, 2008 3:06 PM


Sara wrote:

I have been keenly interested in polling data and how they play in the election.
Here, this article gives the historical perspective proving that, quote,

"When the polls were wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat, usually by about 6 to 10 points."

I read an article today which says that many people follow the crowd.
This "herd mentality" is what causes many to make up their minds based on "everyone's doing it."
Perhaps the same crowd which follows the trends in other realms, such as the latest fashion trends??
This may be why the MSM touts the Obama lead so much.. to try and sway these "TRENDERS."
But the reality is that the race is within a couple of points..
as Mr. Zogby (the ONE pollster closest in prediction to ANY of the others as to reality) has pointed out.
And that could be an EIGHT POINT positive for McCain.. according to this.
People who deal in deceptive polling data to try and sway the masses they way they want..
have often been disappointed come polling day, as this trip through polling history shows.

Sara.

===

EIGHTY-FOUR PERCENT SAY THEY'D NEVER LIE TO A POLLSTER
October 15, 2008

With an African-American running for president this year, there has been a lot of chatter about the "Bradley effect," allowing the media to wail about institutional racism in America.

Named after Tom Bradley, who lost his election for California governor in 1982 despite a substantial lead in the polls, the Bradley effect says that black candidates will poll much stronger than the actual election results.

First of all, if true, this is the opposite of racism: It is fear of being accused of racism. For most Americans, there is nothing more terrifying than the prospect of being called a racist. It's scarier than flood or famine, terrorist attacks or flesh-eating bacteria. To some, it's even scarier than "food insecurity."

Political correctness has taught people to lie to pollsters rather than be forced to explain why they're not voting for the African-American.

This is how two typical voters might answer a pollster's question: "Whom do you support for president?"

Average Obama voter: "Obama." (Name of average Obama voter: "Mickey Mouse.")

Average McCain voter: "I'm voting for McCain, but I swear it's just about the issues. It's not because Obama's black. If Barack Obama were a little more moderate -- hey, I'd vote for Colin Powell. But my convictions force me to vote for the candidate who just happens to be white. Say, do you know where I can get Patti LaBelle tickets?"

In addition to the social pressure to constantly prove you're not a racist, apparently there is massive social pressure to prove you're not a Republican. No one is lying about voting for McCain just to sound cool.

Reviewing the polls printed in The New York Times and The Washington Post in the last month of every presidential election since 1976, I found the polls were never wrong in a friendly way to Republicans. When the polls were wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat, usually by about 6 to 10 points.

In 1976, Jimmy Carter narrowly beat Gerald Ford 50.1 percent to 48 percent. And yet, on Sept. 1, Carter led Ford by 15 points. Just weeks before the election, on Oct. 16, 1976, Carter led Ford in the Gallup Poll by 6 percentage points -- down from his 33-point Gallup Poll lead in August.

Reading newspaper coverage of presidential elections in 1980 and 1984, I found myself paralyzed by the fear that Reagan was going to lose.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan beat Carter by nearly 10 points, 51 percent to 41 percent. In a Gallup Poll released days before the election on Oct. 27, it was Carter who led Reagan 45 percent to 42 percent.

In 1984, Reagan walloped Walter Mondale 58.8 percent to 40 percent, -- the largest electoral landslide in U.S. history. But on Oct. 15, The New York Daily News published a poll showing Mondale with only a 4-point deficit to Reagan, 45 percent to 41 percent. A Harris Poll about the same time showed Reagan with only a 9-point lead. The Oct. 19 New York Times/CBS News Poll had Mr. Reagan ahead of Mondale by 13 points. All these polls underestimated Reagan's actual margin of victory by 6 to 15 points.

In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by a whopping 53.4 percent to 45.6 percent. A New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 5 had Bush leading the Greek homunculus by a statistically insignificant 2 points -- 45 percent to 43 percent. (For the kids out there: Before it became a clearinghouse for anti-Bush conspiracy theories, CBS News was considered a credible journalistic entity.)

A week later -- or one tank ride later, depending on who's telling the story -- on Oct. 13, Bush was leading Dukakis in The New York Times Poll by a mere 5 points.

Admittedly, a 3- to 6-point error is not as crazily wrong as the 6- to 15-point error in 1984. But it's striking that even small "margin of error" mistakes never seem to benefit Republicans.

In 1992, Bill Clinton beat the first President Bush 43 percent to 37.7 percent. (Ross Perot got 18.9 percent of Bush's voters that year.) On Oct. 18, a Newsweek Poll had Clinton winning 46 percent to 31 percent, and a CBS News Poll showed Clinton winning 47 percent to 35 percent.

So in 1992, the polls had Clinton 12 to 15 points ahead, but he won by only 5.3 points.

In 1996, Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole 49 percent to 40 percent. And yet on Oct. 22, 1996, The New York Times/CBS News Poll showed Clinton leading by a massive 22 points, 55 percent to 33 percent.

In 2000, which I seem to recall as being fairly close, the October polls accurately described the election as a virtual tie, with either Bush or Al Gore 1 or 2 points ahead in various polls. But in one of the latest polls to give either candidate a clear advantage, The New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 3, 2000, showed Gore winning by 45 percent to 39 percent.

In the last presidential election the polls were surprisingly accurate -- not including the massively inaccurate Election Day exit poll. In the end, Bush beat John Kerry 50.7 percent to 48.3 percent in 2004. Most of the October polls showed the candidates in a dead-heat, with Bush 1 to 3 points ahead. So either pollsters got a whole lot better starting in 2004, or Democrats stole more votes in that election than we even realized.

http://www.anncoulter.com/

-- October 18, 2008 3:41 PM


Sara wrote:

Imminent Homeland Security Threat??

QUOTE:

"There has been no specific threat but the assessment is that someone will try something."

AND:

".. intelligence analysts believe America's enemies are more likely to try to take advantage of Mr Obama's international inexperience."

==

Both Candidates teams briefed by Bush staff on warnings about a terrorist attack
By Tim Shipman in Washington
18 Oct 2008

Officials from both campaigns have been asked to briefings after warnings from US intelligence that terrorists and rogue states will seek to exploit the power vacuum following November's presidential election.

For the first time in American history the FBI has begun vetting likely officials of the next administration before the election, to ensure they have security clearance to deal with crises on day one.

Intelligence chiefs expect an attempt to emulate the terrorist strikes on Britain when Gordon Brown took power and are concerned that Russia or Iran could use the 77 days of paralysis between the election and the inauguration on January 20 for acts of international brinkmanship, like the invasion of Georgia.

An official involved in the transition discussions told The Sunday Telegraph: "There has been no specific threat but the assessment is that someone will try something.

"It could be a terrorist attack on US assets overseas. It could be the leader of a rogue state chancing his arm. Putin and Ahmadinejad have form."

The transition of power in the US is a chaotic process. More than 1,100 political appointees in senior posts have to be approved by the Senate, a process that can take months.

On Wednesday the current White House chief of staff, Josh Bolten, chaired a meeting of senior White House staff and representatives of both Mr Obama and his Republican rival John McCain.

President Bush's creation of this Presidential Transition Coordinating Council, the earliest ever, is designed to avoid a repeat of the situation on September 11 2001, when only one third of his national security appointees had been approved by the Senate, nine months into his presidency.

Martha Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project, an independent group that advises the transition teams of both campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: "The times of changing of power are soft times, times of vulnerability. Just look at what has happened around the world, including in Great Britain.

"You had the failed bombings in London and then the attack at Glasgow airport three days after Gordon Brown took office. In Spain the Madrid bombings were three days before the presidential election."

There have been particularly intensive efforts to make sure Mr Obama has his national security team in place because intelligence analysts believe America's enemies are more likely to try to take advantage of Mr Obama's international inexperience than they would of Mr McCain.

A senior official in the Obama camp, whose name has been submitted for FBI vetting, said: "We will be ready and we will be seen to be ready."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3224481/Barack-Obamas-team-is-briefed-by-Bush-staff-on-after-warnings-about-a-terrorist-attack.html

-- October 19, 2008 2:20 AM


Anonymous wrote:

Holy cow, what a risk to American nashional security!
Obama is. Electing I mean.
What a risk to take.
with the country.
America.

-- October 19, 2008 2:28 AM


Sara wrote:

Acorn and Joe the Plumber ARE RELATED,
here is how:

Obama camp hires prosecutor in fraud investigation regarding ACORN:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3155888&referralPlaylistId=a9594f0389e4ea58938175cbd26195fbedd640ad

-- October 19, 2008 2:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Limbaugh: Where are the inexperienced, white liberals Powell has endorsed?

Rush Limbaugh said Colin Powell's decision to get behind Barack Obama appeared to be very much tied to Obama's status as the first African-American with a chance to become president.

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."

As for Powell's statement of concern this morning about the sort of Supreme Court justices a President McCain might appoint, Limbaugh wrote: "I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [general] and secretary of state and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let's hear it for transformational figures."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Limbaugh_Where_are_the_inexperienced_white_liberals_Powell_has_endorsed.html?showall

-- October 19, 2008 2:14 PM


Sara wrote:

These polling numbers are too close to call (within the 2.9% margin of error), but Obama is acting like he has won.
I guess presumption (unwarrantable, unbecoming, or impertinent boldness) is a form of valor to some people.

===

Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 47.8%, McCain 45.1%
McCain slowly gains on Obama
Released: October 19, 2008

UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain continued a slow advance on Democrat Barack Obama in the race for President, moving back within three percentage points as the race begins to head down the stretch run, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking poll shows.

McCain now trails Obama by 2.7 points, down from the 3.9 point deficit he faced 24 hours earlier.

Seven-point-one percent of the likely voters surveyed said they remain undecided.

Obama lost five-tenths of a point from yesterday's report, while McCain gained another six-tenths of a point. It was the third consecutive day in which Obama's numbers slipped and McCain's numbers increased.

Except for a few hours of polling, this three-day rolling average of telephone polling now includes a sample taken entirely after the final presidential debate last Wednesday.

The tracking poll carries a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points.

McCain made a big move Saturday among independent voters, cutting's Obama lead from 16 points to just 8 points. Now, Obama leads by a 46% to 38% margin, with the balance of independents either unsure or supporting someone else.

Both candidates have remained strong among their political bases - McCain wins 90% of Republicans, compared to 88% of Democrats who support Obama.

Men are now, again, tilting very slightly in favor of McCain, who leads by two percentage points among the group. Among women, Obama leads, but only by six points.

Among those who consider themselves investors, McCain retains a four-point lead.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1597

-- October 19, 2008 2:29 PM


Sara wrote:

This kind of explains it.

==

Obama's lead slips to 3 points
Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:30am EDT
By Andrew Quinn

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race has dropped to 3 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 48 to 45 percent among likely U.S. voters, down 1 percentage point from Saturday. The four-day tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Pollster John Zogby said the numbers were good news for McCain, and probably reflected a bump following his appearance in the third and final presidential debate on Wednesday.

"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.

He said the Arizona senator appeared to have solidified his support with the Republican base -- where 9 out of 10 voters now back him -- and was also gaining ground among the independents who may play a decisive role in the November 4 election.

Obama's lead among independent voters dropped to 8 points on Sunday from 16 points a day earlier.

'RED FLAGS'

"If that trend continues, it is something that has got to raise red flags for Obama," Zogby said. "It suggests to me that his outward look of confidence may be as much strategy as it is real."

Other national polls have given Obama a double-digit overall lead, fueled by perceptions he would do a better job managing the faltering economy and unhappiness with McCain's attacks on him over the past week.

But he has cautioned his supporters against overconfidence and most polls now put his lead in single digits.

Women, who are expected to be an important factor in the election, still favor Obama by a 6-point margin, although this has been declining in recent days.

Independent Ralph Nader drew 2 percent support in the poll, conducted Saturday through Tuesday, while Libertarian Bob Barr registered 1 percent, both little changed.

The rolling tracking poll surveyed 1,210 likely voters in the presidential election. In a tracking poll, the most recent day's results are added while the oldest day's results are dropped in an effort to track changing momentum.

The U.S. president is determined not by the most votes nationally but by a majority of the Electoral College, which has 538 members allotted to all 50 states and the District of Columbia in proportion to their representation in Congress.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49G0V320081019?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

"It suggests to me that his outward look of confidence may be as much strategy as it is real."

Complete arrogance and presumption.. is a "strategy".
Uh-huh. Riiiiiiiight.

-- October 19, 2008 2:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Since I spent some time today watching this and thought it was worth watching,
I thought I would post it for any of you who may be interested:

Joe the Plumber (his middle name is Joseph) comes on Fox News/Huckabee and discusses the MSM's treatment after being thrust into the limelight:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3155870&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749

Joe and panel discuss Obama's tax plan:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3155868&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749

Questions from the audience, one asks, "Why attack President Bush when he has kept America safe?":

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3155866&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749

-- October 19, 2008 3:17 PM


Sara wrote:

I was reading the article, "Two Bloggers' Work Makes Closeness of Obama-Ayers Ties More Obvious Than Ever" which examines even MORE evidence that Obama and Ayers were closer than expected, (found here if you are curious: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/10/19/bloggers-works-makes-closeness-obama-ayers-ties-more-obvious-ever ) and while reading it I ran across this comment, QUOTE:

Yep..you're right Ives
October 19, 2008 by TheAssessor

I was a 60/70's survivor too. The mentality that still lives in some of these people is as dangerous as anything they did then. They've begun the dismantling of America's fundamental system and have cleverly, insiduously figured out how to do it from the inside out with the patience of generational retribution found in the Arab and Chinese world. They have indoctrinated many of our youth and disadvantaged with promises of Barack's "pie", and then annointed Barry to respresent their interests. Barry's just the front man. He's the "one" who can bring out the many who are blinded by the superficiality. Address a fact and they will tell a boldfaced lie, knowing that enough sheeple won't bother to look further. Re: the debates. John: "Barack .. you said this". Barry: (baldfaced lie) "No I didn't". What The??.. it's on tape! Lookitup!

The Ayers/Soros/Raines/Rezko/Wright collaborators have pulled the thread on the foundations of our democracy and are gleefully watching the basics come crashing down. They are tweaking the basics of economy, freedom of the press, voter fraud, exploiting racism, pandering to white guilt, and promoting 'the savior has come bit' to a weary world to do it. What do they want in it's place? Communist ideals and a majority of sheeple.

==end quote==

And I thought.. ok, I really should post on these lies he refers to..
even if it SEEMS a bit off topic from the board..
because it shouldn't get a pass when someone boldface lies..
as Obama did in that debate.
And an Obama or McCain Whitehouse is a paramount concern..
to the Dinar investment.. as well as a lot of everything else.
What is the character of the man?
Well.. Here it is:

===

Big Lies: Obama on Ayers, born-alive bill
October 16, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

In presidential debates (and campaigns), candidates usually try to put their policies and records in the best possible light. The spin usually focuses on the positive aspects of these points to the point of hedging the entire truth, but flat-out lies are pretty rare. Last night, Barack Obama treated us to two of them, and not surprisingly, on the two most controversial points of his record.

The first was subtle, and unless you paid attention to the split screen, you may have missed it. John McCain, after being asked about William Ayers, noted that Obama had launched his campaign in Ayers’ living room:
QUOTE:

MCCAIN: Well, again, while you were on the board of the Woods Foundation, you and Mr. Ayers, together, you sent $230,000 to ACORN. So — and you launched your political campaign in Mr. Ayers’ living room.

OBAMA: That’s absolutely not true.

MCCAIN: And the facts are facts and records are records.

OBAMA: And that’s not the facts.

==end quote==

Unfortunately for Obama, those are the facts, both about Ayers and ACORN. Obama paid ACORN over $800,000 this summer for GOTV efforts, which Obama now denies, although he did finally admit that he represented ACORN as an attorney in a lending-practices case. Obama did launch his career at a party hosted by Ayers, which is such a matter of public record that I’m frankly surprised he bothered to deny it.

The next big lie came during the debate on abortion. McCain pointed out Obama’s radical positions on the issue, including his repeated opposition to the Illinois version of the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act. Obama responded with a series of lies:
QUOTE:

There was a bill that was put forward before the Illinois Senate that said you have to provide lifesaving treatment and that would have helped to undermine Roe v. Wade. The fact is that there was already a law on the books in Illinois that required providing lifesaving treatment, which is why not only myself but pro-choice Republicans and Democrats voted against it.

==end quote==

During that period, the Attorney General reported that the practice of abandoning infants born alive during late-term abortions was not covered by the law. Jill Stanek and others testified to the practice, and the Illinois Senate heard testimony that suggested that as many as 20% of all late-term abortions resulted in a live birth. Obama lied about the circumstances of the bill; the reason it was being proposed was because existing law was ineffective at protecting infants born alive.
He said, QUOTE:

And the Illinois Medical Society, the organization of doctors in Illinois, voted against it. Their Hippocratic Oath would have required them to provide care, and there was already a law in the books.

==end quote==

There wasn’t a law on the books, and who would be surprised that the people performing the abortions and leaving the children to die wouldn’t want more oversight to prevent that practice?

You can read my previous posts on the subject:

- Infanticide, revisited
- Yes, we can … elect a guy who votes for infanticide
- There are a lot of things above Obama’s “pay grade”
- Team Obama acknowledges infanticide lie
- Obama camp: He only voted against that born-alive abortion bill because it might actually have an effect
- Obama’s support for infanticide breaks into mainstream media
- Obama: Bill unnecessarily burdened doctors with … babies; Update: AOL Hot Seat poll added
- McCarthy: Obama’s moral failing on infanticide
- Obama’s ad lies about infanticide vote

Obama voted against the bill that would have protected infants born alive even after the “neutrality clause” he demanded was added to protect abortion in Illinois. That is the truth in this case, and Obama lied to the American people in an attempt to hide his radical position on abortion.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/16/big-lies-obama-on-ayers-born-alive-bill/

-- October 19, 2008 4:57 PM


Sara wrote:

For Iraq, falling oil prices could have silver lining
The federal government may be forced to rethink its budget, but with so much at stake, Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds may be compelled to reach an agreement on stalled oil legislation.
By Ned Parker, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 20, 2008

BAGHDAD -- Falling oil prices will cut into Iraq's budget next year, but they could serve as a wake-up call for the government.

They could prod Kurds and Arabs to reach an agreement on sensitive issues such as sharing oil revenue after nearly two years of deadlock. They could also become a factor in national elections planned for late 2009, if the population grows angrier at Iraq's ruling parties.

Nearly every week, in their Friday sermons, Shiite Muslim clerics denounce the government for failing to improve electricity and water supply. A failure to spend more on providing services for citizens will only make things harder for the Iraqi government.

"The drop in oil prices would directly reflect on services," said Ali Adeeb, a lawmaker with Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's Islamic Dawa Party. A lack of improvement could bolster new parties competing for parliament seats next year.

Haidar Abadi, another Dawa lawmaker, said that the projected 2009 budget of $79 billion was based on oil fetching $80 a barrel. He recommended that the government draft its new budget on an estimate of $60 a barrel. On the bright side, he said, he hoped falling prices might allow greater room for compromise between Kurds and Arabs, who have butted heads over an oil law. The Kurds, who suffered under Saddam Hussein's rule, have a historic distrust of Iraq's Arab majority and want guarantees that they will be able to control the oil in their region and maintain autonomy from Baghdad.

In its original form, the legislation would have granted Iraqi provinces the right to sign contracts with foreign companies, but it has been stalled since February 2007. The Kurds have taken to signing oil contracts in defiance of the federal government. The dangers of declining revenue might persuade both sides to be more practical.

"You have to manage your resources more properly," Abadi said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-oil-iraq20-2008oct20,0,1362482.story?track=rss

-- October 20, 2008 8:55 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq’s debts to be slashed by end of 2008
October 18, 2008 - 12:24:24

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: A deal to cancel the remaining balance of Iraq’s external debts has been approved by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), a media source from the Iraqi Ministry of Finance said on Saturday.

“Today, Finance Minister Baqir Jabr al-Zubeidi met in New York with the head of the IMF, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who informed him that the fund will submit a report to the Paris Club by the end of the current year to forgive Iraq’s remaining exterior debts, around 20 percent ($30 billion) of the 80 percent reduction in debts,” the source told Aswat al-Iraq.

The source quoted the Iraqi minister as saying that he is working with advisors and officials to reconsider some budget allocations and to reduce the current expenditure in an attempt to cut the budget deficit.

The Paris Club is an informal group of financial officials from 19 of the world’s richest countries, which provides financial services such as debt restructuring, debt relief, and debt cancellation to indebted countries and their creditors. Debtors are often recommended by the International Monetary Fund after alternative solutions have failed.
(www.enaswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Abdul-Lateef calls blocs to study SOFA before judgment 20/10/2008 12:12:00

Baghdad (NINA)- the independent MP Wa'il Abdul-Lateef has called political blocs to study the draft of the Status of Forces Agreement with the United States before accepting or rejecting it to avoid a prior immature judgment.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq, Kuwait need to turn over new leaf - Talabani

Politics 10/20/2008 3:40:00 PM



By Mona Shister (with photos) BAGHDAD, Oct 20 (KUNA) -- Iraqi President Jalal Talabani called on Monday for turning over a new leaf in the bilateral ties between his country and Kuwait.
"The two neighbors need to enhance ties on the basis of mutual respect for the independence and sovereignty of each other," the president said during his meeting with the delegation of Kuwait Journalists' Association (KJA).
This is the first visit to Iraq by Kuwait media people and reporters since the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in August, 1990. It precedes the planned visit to Iraq by His Highness the Kuwaiti Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser Al-Mohammad Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah.
The Iraqi president has warmly received the delegation, saying: "Thank you for the visit which ended a long period of tension during the era of the former Iraqi regime." "Iraq and Kuwait are two sisterly countries and we hope their relations will be a role model for the other Arab countries," he pointed out.
Welcoming HH the Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser's visit, Talabani said: "We are looking forward to the visit and similar top-level exchanges.
"I've recently met HH the Prime Minister recently in New York where he promised me to visit Iraq." Talabani recalled the suffering inflicted on both nations at the hands of the regime of the toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. "Both of us suffered a lot because of the atrocities committed by that dictator. We, Iraqis, were the first to bear the brunt of such atrocities, then you.
"Saddam used to justify his atrocities against the sons of Iraq on the grounds that they were rebels seeking to topple his regime.
"He also committed an unprecedented and unjustifiable crime against the brotherly people of Kuwait.
"He had no justification at all to invade Kuwait which proved to be an all-weather friend of Iraq," Talabani underscored.
"Kuwait had suffered a lot due to its support to Iraq and late Kuwaiti Amir Sheikh Jaber Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah himself had narrowly survived an assassination bid," he recalled.
Talabani asked the delegation to convey his regards to His Highness the Amir Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber Al-Sabah an all Kuwaiti people and government.
He also urged them to work for strengthening cooperation and relations between the two brotherly nations. (more) ms.af.gb KUNA 201540 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:33 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Debate ongoing debate over US-Iraq security agreement

Politics 10/20/2008 11:43:00 AM



By Mohammad Al-Ghazzi (with photos) BAGHDAD, Oct 20 (KUNA) -- Iraq's Political Council for National Security ended late Sunday a several-hour long meeting that discussed the draft US security pact while Baghdad announced, Monday morning, a delay in PM Nouri Al-Maliki's planned visit to Australia due to the ongoing debate over this issue.
President Jalal Talabani presided an expanded meeting of the council which was attended by Vice Presidents Adel Abdelmahdi and Tareq Al-Hashimi, as well as Al-Maliki, Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Al-Mashadani, Kurdistan region president Messoud Barazani, and other senior officials and representatives of parliament blocs.
Also present were the ministers of finance, interior, and defense.
A statement by the Iraqi Presidency said a dialogue which lasted over three hours covered the different aspects of the security agreement with the US forces and all concerned parties expressed their views." In statements after the meeting, the presidential diwan chairman told reporters it was decided to have further more extensive discussions on the matter and the ministers of finance, defense, and interior were asked to provide answers on many specific questions. The questions concerned armed forces' readiness and the answers were provided in a professional manner, he added.
Though some stances are in the process of being formed by some blocs, the dialogue is still ongoing, he noted.
The official noted that the cabinet is to meet tomorrow and the council is to meet anew next for further discussion and determination of views and stances on this matter.
Meanwhile, the Iraqi PM's visit to Australia was delayed, originally planned for Tuesday, and Al-Maliki's office said this was upon the request of the Iraqi official. It was agreed, he said, that a new date be set for a visit soon.(more) mhg.st.wsa KUNA 201143 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

More at stake than security in pullout deal with US
By Basil Adas

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Baghdad, 20 October 2008 (Gulf News)
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When considering the security agreement currently being negotiated between the US and Iraq, most people are looking only at its security aspects, but much more is at stake, Gulf News learned.

Iraq stands to gain from advancements in the technology, agriculture, science, trade and industry sectors, Talal Abdullah, a researcher at the Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad explained.

"What is most important is for Iraq to overcome 18 years of economic sanctions placed upon it by the UN Security Council during Saddam's reign," Hatim Al Shaikhli, a 47-year old Iraqi doctor, told Gulf News.

Many Iraqis have responded to religious fatwas calling for resistance in the event of a signed agreement with the United States. But, Muthana Radwan, a journalist and political analyst explained that this is not in Iraq's best interests.

"Iraq needs major political, security and managerial reforms and many of the political forces have not yet rid themselves of sectarian ideologies," Radwan said.

Disagreement: Fallout from US pact

Shiite parties in Iraq's ruling coalition said on Sunday they wanted changes made to a draft of a security pact with the United States that Iraqi officials had previously described as final.

The draft, announced this week after months of negotiations, requires US troops to leave Iraq at the end of 2011 unless Baghdad asks them to stay.

Leaders of Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki's ruling Shiite alliance met on Saturday to hear the prime minister give a review of the pact, the alliance said in a statement.

"Beside the positive points that were included in this pact, there are other points that need more time, more discussion, more dialogue and amendments to some articles," it said. "A committee was formed to gather the comments of the members of the alliance."

The call for changes to the draft appears to contradict Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari, who said on Saturday that Washington and Baghdad consider the draft final and that it would be difficult to reopen it.

Zebari said Iraq's parliament would be sent the draft to approve or reject but would not be permitted to make changes.

The Shiite alliance includes Maliki's Dawa Party and its powerful rival the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (ISCI), which jointly contested the 2005 election that brought Maliki to power but now have separate blocs in parliament.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:42 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Maliki Bloc Stalling US-Iraq Deal
October 20, 2008
Associated Press

BAGHDAD - Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's ruling Shiite coalition withheld support Sunday for the proposed security pact that would keep U.S. troops here for three more years, dealing a setback to American hopes of a speedy approval of the agreement.

The statement by the United Iraqi Alliance called for unspecified changes to the draft agreement, which parliament must ratify by the end of the year when the U.N. mandate expires.

The group's move comes a day after tens of thousands of demonstrators, mostly Shiites, took to the streets of Baghdad to show their opposition to the agreement.

The Shiite alliance holds 85 of parliament's 275 seats and al-Maliki needs its solid support to win approval of the agreement by a strong majority.

The 30 lawmakers loyal to anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have already said they will vote against the agreement, and some Sunni lawmakers have spoken out against it too.

But the alliance represents the groups that profited the most from the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled their archenemy Saddam Hussein. The fact that it was hesitant to commit to the agreement underscores the ambivalent feelings many Iraqis have toward the Americans after five years of war.

In its statement, the alliance said the agreement, hammered out in months of difficult negotiations, contained some "positive points" but more time was needed "for discussion, dialogue and to amend some of its articles."

The alliance established a committee to solicit views and study the agreement in detail, the statement added. Al-Maliki aide Yassin Majid said Sunday that the prime minister had postponed a planned visit this week to Australia to deal with the security agreement.

The alliance did not specify what it considered positive or negative, and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari warned it would be difficult to reopen negotiations.

The agreement provides for American troops to leave Baghdad and other Iraqi cities by the end of June and withdraw from the country entirely by the end of 2011 unless the government asks them to stay.

It would also give Iraq limited authority to prosecute U.S. Soldiers and contractors for crimes committed off post and off duty, limit U.S. authority to search homes and detain people and give Iraqis more say in the conduct of American military operations.

Al-Maliki aide Sami al-Askari told The Associated Press that several members of the alliance wanted to remove language allowing the government to ask any Americans to stay beyond the end of 2011.

He also said some members wanted to know who would decide whether crimes committed by Americans met the standard for Iraqi trials.

Hassan al-Suneid, a lawmaker from al-Maliki's party, said members had reservations about portions "that don't comply with Iraq's sovereignty."

"We cannot talk today about rejection or acceptance in the absolute," al-Suneid told The Associated Press. "There are weak and strong points," including a timeline for the departure of American troops.

Some lawmakers complained the language in the draft was vague, especially those governing U.S. military operations and legal jurisdiction over American troops and contractors.

Although the alliance did not reject the accord outright, the review process within a coalition whose leaders negotiated the accord could well mean that parliament will not vote on the agreement until after the Nov. 4 U.S. election.

Political consultations continued late Sunday between al-Maliki and the National Security Council, which includes the president, the vice presidents, the parliament speaker and leaders of major political factions. A government statement said the talks included the preparedness of the Iraqi security forces.

Many Iraqi lawmakers say privately they still need U.S. troops because the Iraqi military and police alone are incapable of handling security nationwide despite the sharp drop in violence since last year.

But approval has been complicated by next year's provincial and national elections, as well as the narrow partisan interests, sectarian and ethnic divisions that have defined Iraqi politics since the 2003 collapse of Saddam Hussein.

Iraqi politicians fear positions they take on the security pact will determine how they will fare at the ballot box, since many voters are anxious to see U.S. troops leave. Iraqi control of their own country is a burning issue in a nation that once saw itself as the beacon of pan-Arab nationalism.

Furthermore, many Shiite politicians have close ties to neighboring Iran, where they lived in exile during Saddam's rule. Shiite-dominated Iran strongly opposes the agreement.

On Sunday, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Washington's plan for a security deal with Iraq was futile because Iraqis "have announced their opposition" to the deal, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported from Tehran.

The pact with the U.S. is expected to serve as a model for a separate agreement on the future of the 4,100 British troops in Iraq as well as the handful of other countries that remain in the coalition.

Al-Maliki said Sunday he would appoint a team soon to start discussions with Britain. He told The Times of London last week that British forces are no longer necessary to provide security but there may be a need for a few of them for training and technical issues.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 20, 2008 9:53 AM


Sara wrote:

Of COURSE the economy is the most important issue in the election..
because it will affect us all so much in the coming Presidential term, you see.
/sarc off

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Biden Guarantees an International Crisis in Six Months if Obama Wins
By Noel Sheppard
October 20, 2008

Democrat vice presidential candidate Joe Biden on Sunday guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected president, there will be an international crisis within six months. It's certainly going to be interesting to see how the Obama-loving media report this potentially huge gaffe by the Delaware senator.

Kudos to ABC's Matthew Jaffe and the networks Political Radar blog for posting this Monday (emphasis added, photo courtesy The Age):
QUOTE:

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.

==end quote==

Wow! Powerful stuff indeed. Think it will be widely reported?

Before you answer, consider what would happen if Sarah Palin made such a comment. Think that would be newsworthy?

We'd probably hear about it every day until the elections, wouldn't we?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/20/biden-guarantees-international-crisis-six-months-if-obama-wins

-- October 20, 2008 12:34 PM


Sara wrote:

There is an audio with this on the page, if you wish to listen to it (see url below).

===

Now terrorists swoon over Biden
Hamas says VP candidate will help Obama with 'right policy' for Middle East
Posted: October 19, 2008

JERUSALEM – In an exclusive interview tonight, a senior Hamas official heaped praise on Sen. Joe Biden, calling him a "very nice" person and a "great man" whose record "speaks volumes" and who can be counted on by the terror group to engage in the "right policy" toward the Middle East.

During the interview with WND's Aaron Klein and WABC Radio's John Batchelor, the Hamas figure also expressed hope regarding Sen. Barack Obama's "vision for change," announcing Hamas will send Obama a letter of congratulation "the moment he will win the election."

Ahmed Yousef, Hamas' chief political adviser in the Gaza Strip, called Biden a "very prominent figure when it comes to the politics of the region."

"I do believe Mr. Biden, he is well known, he is familiar with the situation here in Palestine. I think he is a very nice person. … Yes, he is well aware of the political situation here in Palestine, and I do believe he might do something to change the bad image about America and enhance that image," Yousef said during the interview.

"His record speaks volumes. I do believe Mr. Biden is a great man. And we do count on him also as a good partner with Mr. Obama to put the right policy regarding how to handle the problems in the region."

Speaking about Obama, Yousef commented that it's "good for America to have a new administration with someone like Mr. Obama and his vision for a change."

"I do believe actually with this administration, with the Bush administration we don't have luck (ending Hamas' isolation). ...We as Palestinians are thinking that we might have better luck with a new administration, maybe, if Obama wins the election. I do believe he will change the American foreign policy … in the way they are handling the Middle East," Yousef said.

Asked by Klein if he thinks Obama will be victorious next month, Yousef replied, "Yeah, I do. I am like the rest of the people. I am look (sic) for what really these folks are talking about, and after this financial crisis I do believe that Obama's chances [are] better than Mr. McCain. That's why we count on this change in the American foreign policy to be more fair and impartial regarding the (Israeli-Palestinian) conflict, the way they look at the conflict and the way a new proposal or initiative may help solving the problem."

Yousef exclaimed Hamas will "send [Obama] a congratulation letter the moment he will win the election, and we will try to explain in that letter what America should do to enhance their image in the region and to restore their leadership also in the region."

In April, Yousef stated he "hopes" Obama becomes president and compared the Illinois senator to President John F. Kennedy.

"We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the election," Yousef told WND.

Hamas' official charter calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of Jews.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78549

-- October 20, 2008 12:56 PM


Sara wrote:

An interesting endorsement.. from a Middle Eastern leader who obviously believes that Obama is a Muslim.

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Mideast leader: Obama a Muslim who studied in Islamic schools
Says Arab world campaign contributions 'may enable him to win U.S. presidency'
Posted: October 17, 2008
By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim of Kenyan origins who studied in Islamic schools and whose campaign may have been financed by people in the Islamic and African worlds, Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi said during a recent televised national rally.

"There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama," said Gadhafi in little-noticed remarks he made at a rally marking the anniversary of the 1986 U.S. air raid on his country.

The remarks, translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, MEMRI, were aired on Al Jazeera in June.

The video also has been posted on YouTube and can be seen here:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojgJuxD87FU

"All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man," continued Gadhafi. "They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency.

"We are hoping that this black man will take pride in his African and Islamic identity, and in his faith, and that [he will know] that he has rights in America, and that he will change America from evil to good, and that America will establish relations that will serve it well with other peoples, especially the Arabs," Gadhafi said.

Gadhafi went on to lament statements Obama made at a June 4 address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in which the presidential candidate stated if he is elected president, "Jerusalem would remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."

But it seems Gadhafi was not aware that the next day, during a CNN appearance, Obama explained he meant Jerusalem shouldn't be physically divided with a partition and was not referring to the city remaining in exclusively Jewish hands.

Stated Gadhafi: "But we were taken by surprise when our African Kenyan brother [Obama], who is an American national, made statements (about Jerusalem) that shocked all his supporters in the Arab world, in Africa, and in the Islamic world.

"We hope that this is merely an elections 'clearance sale,' as they say in Egypt - in other words, merely an elections lie. As you know, this is the farce of elections - a person lies and lies to people, just so that they will vote for him, and afterwards, when they say to him, 'You promised this and that,' he says: 'No, this was just elections propaganda.' This is the farce of democracy for you. He says: 'This was propaganda, and you thought I was being serious. I was fooling you to get your votes.'

"Allah willing, it will turn out that this was merely elections propaganda. Obama said he would turn Jerusalem into the eternal capital of the Israelis. This indicates that our brother Obama is ignorant of international politics, and is not familiar with the Middle East conflict," Gadhafi said.

Gadhafi went on to express his hope if elected Obama will implement a "one state solution" to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, meaning Israel would be flooded with millions of Palestinian Arabs who would terminate the country's Jewish nationality.

He said he was worried Obama may have a "black inferiority complex" whereby he may enact "white men" policies to prove he is no different from "white" America.

"The thing we fear most is that the black man suffers from an inferiority complex. This is dangerous. If our brother Obama feels that because he is black he doesn't have the right to rule America, this would be a disaster, because such a feeling would make him act whiter than the white, and go to an extreme in his persecution and degradation of the blacks.

"We say to him: Brother, the whites and blacks in America are equal. They are all immigrants. America belongs neither to the whites nor to the blacks. America belongs to its original inhabitants, the Indians. Both the whites and the blacks immigrated to America, and so they are equal, and Obama has the right to hold his head high, and say: 'I am a partner in America. This is my land as much as it is yours. If it is not my land, it is not yours either. It is the land of the Indians. You are immigrants, and so are we.'"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78309

-- October 20, 2008 1:44 PM




Anonymous wrote:

Powell Endorses McCain (Endorsement Ignored by MSM)
By P.J. Gladnick
October 20, 2008

Powell has endorsed McCain. Huh? Is that some sort of typo? Nope. It is the Powell endorsement that the mainstream media is ignoring. Colin Powell has endorsed Barack Obama which was widely heralded in the MSM. However, his son, former FCC Commission Chairman Michael Powell has endorsed John McCain. The MSM is conveniently ignoring it but here is the report of this endorsement in The Hill:
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Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee, has put him at odds with his own son, former Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Michael Powell.

Michael Powell, who served as a policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, is a surrogate for John McCain and represents the GOP nominee on the campaign trail.

He endorsed McCain early in the Republican primary in January, and said the Arizona senator was the best candidate to “calm the turbulent economic waters and to steer the new economy in a direction that will bring growth, opportunity and prosperity to all Americans.”

Powell contributed $1,000 to McCain the day of the Iowa caucuses and another $1,000 before the Florida primary. In August, he defended McCain, who had said he rarely uses the Internet, as someone who “understands technology very well” from his time as chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Technology.

...He has addressed the media as a technology adviser to McCain’s campaign, and told National Public Radio in August that McCain has the experience to help create the economic and social conditions for tech businesses to thrive.

==end quote==

Now imagine if the reverse had happened. Colin Powell endorses McCain while son Michael endorses Obama. Does anyone doubt that the tenor of the Colin Powell endorsement story would be that while he endorsed McCain, his "progressive" son, representing the younger generation, endorsed Obama? However, since the reverse happened, the Michael Powell endorsement of McCain is almost completely overlooked in the media. Check out Google and you will see the only mention of the Michael Powell endorsement of McCain is in The Hill.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/20/powell-endorses-mccain-endorsement-ignored-msm

-- October 20, 2008 6:14 PM


Sara wrote:

Biden says that "Obama’s inexperience will prompt nations to test us" and when Obama makes VERY wrong decisions on future national security and foreign affairs concerns and it doesn't look like the country is going the right way (war? increased casualties? Nuclear escalation?).. Biden asks folks, quote, "to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

What do you think?
Wouldn't that be fun? (sarc)

Sara.

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Biden: Obama’s inexperience will prompt nations to test us
October 20, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Joe Biden, in a stunning statement, acknowledged that Obama’s lack of foreign-policy experience will provoke America’s enemies into creating an international crisis. Biden apparently thinks this is just terrific:
QUOTE:

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you - not financially to help him - we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

===end quote===

Isn’t this an argument for electing someone with more experience? Why should we elect a man who will embolden our enemies and push us to the brink of disaster? Biden seems convinced that electing John McCain will make our enemies abroad much less sanguine about provoking us — which is one of the best arguments yet heard for electing McCain.

Even worse, Biden admits that an Obama administration will likely fumble the ball. “It’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.” Really? Why not? I’d say that Biden admits that Obama will deviate from long-held principles of American foreign policy and diplomacy, and expects to reap a whirlwind of disapproval because of that. Where will that be most likely to occur, given Obama’s previous political alliances with people like Rashid Khalidi?

Let’s not forget the example that Biden himself uses here. John Kennedy got tested because he met with Nikita Khrushchev with “no preconditions”. Kennedy acknowledged afterwards that it was an “unmitigated disaster“:
QUOTE:

Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was “just a disaster.” Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” The Soviet leader left Vienna elated — and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.

Kennedy’s assessment of his own performance was no less severe. Only a few minutes after parting with Khrushchev, Kennedy, a World War II veteran, told James Reston of The New York Times that the summit meeting had been the “roughest thing in my life.” Kennedy went on: “He just beat the hell out of me. I’ve got a terrible problem if he thinks I’m inexperienced and have no guts. Until we remove those ideas we won’t get anywhere with him.”

==end quote===

What resulted? The Berlin Wall and the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy wound up trading strategic intel and missile installations in western Asia in exchange for Soviet withdrawal of the nuclear missiles from Cuba. The entire Kennedy administration turned out to be a foreign-policy disaster that was only overlooked because of the tragic assassination of Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.

I agree with Biden. Obama is exactly like Kennedy in this regard, and our enemies will test us by threatening our interests around the globe if we elect Obama. I’d rather avoid the problem altogether and elect a man who puts enough fear into the minds of our enemies to keep them from testing us at all.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/20/biden-obamas-inexperience-will-prompt-nations-to-test-us/

-- October 20, 2008 6:56 PM


Carl wrote:

Are we at the tipping edge of socialism and marxism...? It appears we are headed that way...It appears to be a gradual but slow slide in that direction....
What amazes me is everything Castro used to gather the masses in Cuba is being used by OBAMA..
This is the first time in all of my years to have a real fear of the coming dissolution of America as I have known it...

-- October 21, 2008 5:52 AM


Anonymous wrote:

look at it this way can anyone be worse than bush!

-- October 21, 2008 9:45 AM


Anonymous wrote:

McCain is a bush puppet.

-- October 21, 2008 9:52 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Because Iran believes the next President is the Muslim Hussein Osama (oops! Obama).
__________________________________________________________
Othman: Iran wants Iraq to conclude SOFA with next US president 21/10/2008 11:44:00

Baghdad (NINA)- The Kurdistani Alliance MP Mahmoud Othman has stated that Iran wants Iraq to postpone concluding the Status of Forces Agreement with the United States until the new US administration take office.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 21, 2008 10:23 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Three Iranian Revolutionary Guards detained S. Baghdad -- US

Military and Security 10/21/2008 12:46:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Oct 21 (KUNA) -- Three Iranians suspected of being affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guards were detained on Tuesday by Iraqi forces while attempting to infiltrate through Iraqi borders in Wasit province, southern Iraq.
The press advisor of the Multi-National Forces (MNF) in Iraq, Al-Muqdad Jibril, told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) that the Iraqi national forces arrested the three men in Wasit province near the Iraqi-Iranian border.
The detainees were said to be affiliated with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, and they were in the Al-Kut's special unit forces custody, Wasit's province largest city for interrogation.
The MNF official did not reveal further information about the detainees.
Security sources said the arrestees were wearing Iranian Revolutionary Guards military uniform and they were possessing arms when they were caught. (end) ahh.sab KUNA 211246 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 21, 2008 10:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

New bid to seal Iraq troop deal
Meeting of the Political Council for National Security had finished without making a decision.

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21 October 2008 (BBC News)
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Political leaders in Iraq have held a late-night session to discuss a draft security pact with the US which would see it withdraw its troops by 2011.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters that the meeting of the Political Council for National Security had finished without making a decision.

Some leaders were "still hesitant to approve or reject" the deal, he said.

Earlier, the main Shia Muslim alliance in the Iraqi coalition government said it would seek to make changes to it.

It is also strongly opposed by the faction led by the radical Shia cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, who brought thousands of supporters onto the streets of Baghdad on Saturday in protest.

The US and Iraqi governments have previously said the pact is final and cannot be amended - only accepted or rejected by the Iraqi parliament.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has postponed a planned trip to Australia to allow him to continue the discussions.

'Clarification'

Mr Maliki's efforts to gain official approval for the draft from the Political Council for National Security late on Sunday night appeared to have failed after the meeting reportedly ended without agreement.

The council - composed of the president, the two vice presidents, the speaker of parliament and leaders of the political factions - was scheduled to hear from military figures.

"They just finished the meeting and they did not take a decision on the pact because some groups had reservations," Mr Dabbagh, the prime minister's official spokesman, told the Reuters news agency afterwards.

Mr Dabbagh said the only the group to have endorsed the draft without any reservations were the main Kurdish groups - President Jalal Talabani's Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP).

"Other groups were saying there are some positive points in the pact, but others that need clarification," he said.

Among the issues needing to be clarified was the mechanism for allowing Iraq to prosecute US troops and contractors accused of serious crimes, he added.

Prosecution fears

Despite US and Iraqi political leaders describing the deal as "final" and difficult to renegotiate, the concerns of the main Shia Muslim alliance in the coalition government have cast doubt on whether it will be approved by parliament.

"Besides the positive points that were included in this pact, there are other points that need more time, more discussion, more dialogue and amendments to some articles," the United Iraqi Alliance said in a statement.

A committee has been formed to study the draft agreement in detail.

The UIA, which includes the Dawa party of Prime Minister Maliki and the rival Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council (SIIC), is reported to have reservations about seven elements of the deal, although details have not yet been made clear.

The BBC's Jim Muir, in Baghdad, says issue of immunity for US military personnel and contractors is thought to be one of the key sticking points.

The pact is said to grant Iraqi judicial authorities limited ability to try US troops and contractors for major crimes committed off-duty or off-base - and only then if a joint US-Iraqi committee agreed.

The government in Baghdad believes the current immunity from Iraqi prosecution by granted to US troops and contractors by the former Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) undermines Iraqi sovereignty.

There are also concerns about the provisional date of 2009 set for US withdrawals from Iraqi towns and cities, and the date of 2011 for withdrawing from Iraq as a whole, our correspondent says.

On Saturday an estimated 50,000 supporters of the cleric, Moqtada Sadr, marched in Baghdad in opposition to the deal and to call for US troops to leave Iraq.

But our correspondent says it is not yet clear if the United Iraqi Alliance's concerns amount to a serious challenge to the agreement.

The draft in its current form was agreed after lengthy negotiations between Baghdad and Washington, and the US is thought to see the deal as a "take it or leave it" package.

The current UN mandate for US-led coalition forces expires at the end of this year. About 144,000 of the 152,000 foreign troops deployed there are US military personnel.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 21, 2008 10:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Culture & Tourism

U.S. gives Iraq $13 million to fix looted museum
By Aseel Kami

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Baghdad, 21 October 2008 (Reuters)
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The U.S. government has announced a $13 million grant mainly to help refurbish Iraq's National Museum which was looted in the aftermath of the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, U.S. officials said Monday.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs Goli Ameri announced the project at a news conference with Iraqi officials, held inside the dilapidated museum building which is still closed to the public.

Iraq's archaeological heritage is among the richest in the world, including treasures from thousands of years of civilization in ancient Mesopotamia, much of it housed at the National Museum in Baghdad.

U.S. forces came under widespread criticism in the immediate aftermath of the invasion for failing to prevent the looting of priceless relics from the museum, even while troops were dispatched to secure other sites such as the Oil Ministry.

"This is an investment not only in Iraq's heritage but in the world's heritage," the U.S. ambassador in Iraq, Ryan Crocker, said. The money will be used for archaeology and museum training projects as well as the restoration of the museum.

More than 15,000 artefacts went missing from the museum during the looting, about 6,000 of which have been returned.

Violence in Iraq has fallen to four-year lows and other cultural attractions are reopening, but the museum is still awaiting refurbishment before it can reopen to the public. U.S. and Iraqi officials offered no timetable to reopen it.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 21, 2008 10:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Anonymous:

Hussein Osama bin Obama is a puppet of liberal left of the democratic party. There is questions whether he is even a citizen of the United States. There are charges his wife plagiarized her thesis.

Furthermore, the money raised by Osama bin Obama is suspect. Much of it is suspected to be raised by foreign arabic contributors. Making those contributions illegal.

I don't think Hussein can be better than McCain. Remember, don't vote for Hussein in November vote John McCain.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 21, 2008 10:45 AM


Sara wrote:

I think we can hazard a guess who would pose a "test" to a young and inexperienced Obama..
"within the first six months"...
Here, the report given both Presidential teams.. shows the escalating threat is within ONE month:

Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in...

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US intelligence: Iran will be able to build first nuclear bomb by February 2009
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
October 21, 2008

US intelligence’s amended estimate, that Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in, is disclosed by DEBKAfile’s Washington sources as having been relayed as a guideline to the Middle East teams of both presidential candidates, Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.

The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”

McCain retorted Tuesday, Oct. 21: “America does not need a president that needs to be tested. I’ve been tested. I was aboard the Enterprise off the coast of Cuba. I’ve been there.”

DEBKAfile’s military sources cite the new US timeline: By late January, 2009, Iran will have accumulated enough low-grade enriched uranium (up to 5%) for its “break-out” to weapons grade (90%) material within a short time. For this, the Iranians have achieved the necessary technology. In February, they can move on to start building their first nuclear bomb.

US intelligence believes Tehran has the personnel, plans and diagrams for a bomb and has been running experiments to this end for the past two years. The UN International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna last week asked Tehran to clarify recent complex experiments they conducted in detonating nuclear materials for a weapon, but received no answer.

The same US evaluation adds that the Iranian leadership is holding off its go-ahead to start building the bomb until the last minute so as to ward off international pressure to stop at the red line.

This development together with the galloping global economic crisis will force the incoming US president to go straight into decision-making without pause on Day One in the Oval Office. He will have to determine which urgent measures can serve best for keeping a nuclear bomb out of the Islamic republic’s hands - diplomatic or military – and how to proceed if those measures fail.

His knowledge of the challenge colored Sen. Biden’s additional words in Seattle: “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

Israel’s political and military leaders also face a tough dilemma that can no longer be put off of whether to strike Iran’s nuclear installations militarily in the next three months between US presidencies before the last window closes, or take a chance on coordination with the next president.

Waiting for the “international community” to do the job of stopping Iran, as urged by governments headed by Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert - and strongly advocated Tzipi Livni, foreign minister and would-be prime minister - has been a washout. Iran stands defiantly on the threshold of a nuclear weapon.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5660

-- October 22, 2008 1:39 AM


Sara wrote:

This is an excellent composition of the comprehensive case against Barack. It was quite lengthy and so I cut it down to size. Please click on the link at the bottom of this post and read and view all the issues with their youtubes. It is well worth your time. My shortened version here to get your feet wet.. also to give prominence to Iraq (a Dinarian interest):

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The comprehensive argument against Barack Obama
October 21, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

CLOSING THE DEAL
A Roadmap for Campaign 2008’s Homestretch
By Guy Benson and Mary Katharine Ham
Editor and Contributor, Ed Morrissey

WHO ARE WE?

Allow us to put our cards on the table at the outset: We are two young conservative journalists—both in our 20s. Unlike many of our peers, we are not swept up in Obamamania and would prefer John McCain to win the election. We’ve teamed up with seasoned blogger extraordinaire, Ed Morrissey, whose careful and thoughtful pursuit of the truth—even when it benefits his political opponents—is respected across the blogosphere. In that spirit, we are not at all interested in perpetuating lies, rumors, and innuendo about Barack Obama. Promoting such information does America a disservice, allows Obama’s supporters to justifiably cry “smear,” and damages our own credibility.

What follows is by no means comprehensive, but it does shed some much-needed light on a number of Obama’s positions, statements, and associations about which he has been less than honest. We’ve attempted to boil each issue down to a succinct explanation with an accompanying, brief video clip—often starring Barack Obama in his own words. Before pulling the lever for someone who hopes voters will ignore his paper-thin resume, unsavory associations, and hard-left voting record, each citizen has a duty to do his due diligence.

In short, we hope this “closing argument” is compelling and clear, and we encourage you to share this essay with undecided or wavering family members, friends, and co-workers.

THE CONTEXT

If recent polls are to believed, freshman Senator Barack Obama has a better than average chance of becoming America’s 44th President, the Commander-in-Chief of the planet’s most powerful military, and the proverbial leader of the free world. It’s worth mentioning that just four years ago as President Bush and Senator John Kerry were vying for the White House, Obama was still a part-time State Senator representing a liberal district in Chicago. Before that he was an attorney and, famously, a community organizer. In 2008, Obama has positioned himself as a post-partisan, thoughtful moderate with the superior judgment required to lead the country. These are lofty promises from a man with precious little executive experience, and a Senate career that lasted exactly 143 legislative days before he launched yet another campaign for higher office. No one can deny his ambition. In fact, if Obama wins on November 4th—and serves one full term in the Oval Office—the Presidency of the United States would be the longest consecutively held full-time job he has ever held without seeking another.

Barack Obama promises “change,” which is an appealing concept to an American public weary of a beleaguered administration and worried about the future. They are faced with a candidate who promises them everything: Tax cuts for 95% of Americans, universal healthcare, peace, saving the planet, and—according to his wife—the “healing” of Americans’ souls. As the saying goes, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Questions abound: Is this man prepared to be president? Does he hold mainstream values and policy preferences? Who has influenced his thinking, and where does he want to take the country? Has he been honest with the people from whom he seeks votes?

FILE: FOREIGN POLICY JUDGMENT

Barack Obama gained much of his early traction by speaking out against the war in Iraq. He cites his initial opposition to the war as the crown-jewel example of his judgment on foreign affairs. Although many people credit him for being “right” on the war from the beginning, it’s indisputable that he did not have an actual vote on the war resolution. As a state senator from a liberal, antiwar district, one wonders how much political risk he assumed by speaking out against a Republican-led conflict. Regardless, after he was elected to the US Senate, Obama was faced with an actual vote on a controversial issue: The surge. John McCain and others said the strategy was the only way to salvage the war and recover from our missteps there. History has proven them correct. Obama not only opposed the surge, but actually predicted it would make matters worse. In other words, he was spectacularly wrong on his biggest foreign policy judgment call since joining the Senate. He stubbornly refuses to admit he was wrong. This may be the kind of judgment that’s expected from a partisan rookie Senator, but not a Commander-in-Chief:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YR8wms8jDY

During the CNN-YouTube debate in the summer of 2007, Obama unequivocally promised to meet without preconditions with the rogue leaders of America’s worst enemies—all within the first year of his administration. Hillary Clinton and John McCain have called this approach reckless, expressing concerns that Obama may be playing into our enemies’ propagandistic designs. In October 2008, the Iranian government announced its own preconditions for one-on-one meetings with the Unites States: Pull all US troops out of the Middle East, and abandon support for “Zionist” Israel. These absurd demands further expose Obama’s very poor judgment vis-a-vis a regime that is actively aiding and abetting terrorists in Iraq who are killing US servicemen. Iran’s “preconditions” prove that negotiating with bad-faith actors who hate Americans and Jews would accomplish nothing other than handing their regime a PR coup. In recent months, Obama’s campaign has continually claimed that he didn’t actually make the promise that he did. The tape does not lie:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vlBgh7KLg

FILE: LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS

After an embarrassing exchange on a talk show, the Obama campaign scrambled to arm its surrogates with talking points about Obama’s grand legislative record. What did they come up with? Two bills—and Obama talks about them endlessly. One deals with securing loose nuclear weapons and was so uncontroversial that it passed on a voice vote in the Senate. The other created a “google for government” system, allowing citizens to track government spending. Both were laudable efforts for a wet-behind-the-ears legislator, but Obama wants to be President. Beyond those two meager accomplishments, what has he done? It’s a question that has baffled official campaign surrogates and regular Americans alike:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

SUMMATION

All three of us have written many, many times on all of these issues. (Please see link below for comprehensive review - Sara.) Taken individually, most of them would create doubt about the readiness and honesty of any political candidate. Put together as a narrative, we believe this paints the picture of a man who has few real credentials for the office he seeks beyond the Constitutional minimum, and a politician who has succeeded in obfuscating his hard-Left ideology.

Perhaps if Barack Obama had taken more time to build his resumé – especially with executive experience – he might have made a more compelling candidate, and might have demonstrated at least a little of the moderation he has claimed. Instead, Democrats want America to support at once the most radical and least qualified candidate for President in at least a century. They have tried to conceal this with the complicity of a pom-pom-waving national media that has shown much more interest in the political background of a plumber from Ohio than in a major-party candidate for President.

America deserves better than that. Voters deserve the truth from the press, not vague cheers of “hope” and “change” while willfully ignoring or air-brushing Obama’s record. We hope to set that record straight with our essay.

Update: Here’s one video we forgot in our comprehensive argument. Barack Obama offered his insights into his military policy in the middle of a war — cut everything that might make us secure:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

He’ll cut missile defense, new weapons systems, and just about everything he can.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/21/the-comprehensive-argument-against-barack-obama/

-- October 22, 2008 2:34 AM


Sara wrote:

Isn't it interesting that people like Anonymous are so BLINDED to the truth concerning President Bush by their hatred of him (what if he were black? could we say they were being RACIST?) - that they are willing to give the country over to an experienced baby in foreign policy whose policies would rival JFK's Cuban Missile Crisis disaster?

In an age where suitcase nukes can quite easily be smuggled into the Homeland, Anonymous and people like him would hand the country over to a weak, ineffectual leader who is NO DETERRENT to the ambitions of rogue States (sit down and negotiate, without preconditions??). Indeed, Obama is a provocation to those same rogue States to TEST the "Great Satan" in any way they can.

If they nuke the US - what's Obama going to do about it? NO ONE believes that if war is called for - Obama would be able to be a Patton:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1LMDHi
(I laughed the first time I saw this pic.)

And no one should believe a Democrat-controlled Congress would be a help to the troops during this time of war. (Have they been?)

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1xTyQr

It isn't about pocketbooks, really.

It's about many, MANY American lives - and keeping them safe...

whether that is obscured now by the MSM media, or not.

Sara.

-- October 22, 2008 9:46 AM


Sara wrote:

And the terrorists are just beginning to see that they need to "fight back" against McCain to help elect this newbie Obama for their agenda to succeed. Here, just as laughably as the image of Obama as Patton, Al Qaeda supporters now say they would welcome a McCain Presidency. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, cheap. It serves their aims as a propaganda ploy to help their true hope, Obama, though.

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Al Qaeda-Linked Web Site Backs McCain for President
Terror group supporters seek 'big operation' against U.S. to 'push Americans deliberately to vote for McCain'
Wednesday, October 22, 2008 / AP

WASHINGTON -- Al Qaeda supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if Al Qaeda wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Maryland, monitors the Web site and translated the message.

"If Al Qaeda carries out a big operation against American interests," the message said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."

Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.

The message is credited to a frequent and apparently respected contributor named Muhammad Haafid. However, Haafid is not believed to have a direct affiliation with Al Qaeda plans or knowledge of its operations, according to SITE.

SITE senior analyst Adam Raisman said this message caught SITE's attention because there has been little other chatter on the forums about the U.S. election.

SITE was struck by the message's detailed analysis -- and apparent jubilation -- about American financial woes.

"What we try to do is get the pulse of the jihadist community," Raisman said. "And it's about the financial crisis."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/22/al-qaeda-linked-web-site-backs-mccain-president/

Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush.

How "failing" has the Bush Presidency been against Al Qaeda? Ask Zarquai.. oh, you can't.. he's dead. A lot of their top leadership is dead. And what about the "tiny" fact that they have been forced to leave Iraq.. remember? Continuing the "failing march" of President Bush? Sooooo.. that means the country would NOT be hit with nuclear suitcase bombs during McCain's tenure.. just like GW Bush's, right? Now, isn't that preferable to a TEST from the terrorists instead? To nuclear weapons in the hands of rogue states like Iran? To unilateral disarmament of the US by Obama's policies (see UPDATE youtube video on "The Comprehensive Case Against Obama", above.)

I wish America would think about it.

Sara.

-- October 22, 2008 10:23 AM


Sara wrote:

That Quote:

Update: Here’s one video we forgot in our comprehensive argument. Barack Obama offered his insights into his military policy in the middle of a war — cut everything that might make us secure:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

He’ll cut missile defense, new weapons systems, and just about everything he can.

==end quote==

Sara.

-- October 22, 2008 10:39 AM


Sara wrote:

McCain's right -
He is the only one who knows HOW to cut defense spending -
without compromising US national security.

Sara.

-- October 22, 2008 10:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara,

I disagree, I do not think we need to cut defense spending in fact with China spending 18% of their budget on defense I think an increase of 30% in our defense spending is a realistic figure.

McCain, must go line by line as promised and cut wasteful spending such as welfare, food stamp programs and the such that encourage poverty.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 22, 2008 10:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Al-Sagheer: Unanimous vote over SOFA “difficult” 22/10/2008 13:51:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council within the United Iraqi Alliance parliamentary bloc Jalal al-Sagheer said that it is difficult to attain all MPs approval on the intended Status of Forces Agreement with the United States.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 22, 2008 11:01 AM


Sara wrote:

Biden Remarks Worse Than Just A Gaffe
At first glance Mr. Biden’s remarks about an newly elected President Obama facing an inevitable international crisis may seem to have been just the latest in a long line of off-the-cuff gaffes.

But we are now told that Mr. Biden made such remarks twice.

According to an article by Brent Bozell, Joe Biden spoke about how foreign leaders would test Obama for the first time on Saturday, October 18th — in San Francisco:
QUOTE:

Sen. Joe Biden told a fundraiser in San Francisco on Saturday, “Mark my words. Within the next, first six months of this administration, if we win, they’re going to — we’re going to face a major international challenge. Because they’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him.”

==end quote==

And then again on October 19th, in Seattle:
QUOTE:

The next day he did it — again! This time in Seattle he declared, “Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking Remember I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

==end quote==

(It was in the second incident that Mr. Biden went into fuller detail, speaking about the five or six possible scenarios, and how Mr. Obama’s popularity was sure to suffer.)

So, whatever else was going on, it is clear that Mr. Biden brought up this subject intentionally.

This gives further credence to the theory that Biden was responding directly to the two candidates’ transition teams having just been briefed on National Security threats.

The news of this briefing seems to have come first from Fox News, in an article published on October 19th.

So it highly likely that Mr. Biden had just gotten word of this briefing and, in typical fashion, he could not resist bragging about his latest insider knowledge.

But Mr. Biden’s remarks seem to have been more purposeful than that. For a sentence from the original Fox News article jumps out in hindsight, quote, "Obama’s team has reportedly given special emphasis to not only being ready for national security threats but also being seen as being ready — as a message to anyone who would hope to take advantage of the transition of power." (end quote)

It is clear that Mr. Biden was trying to make this very point.

But because of his bumbling choice of words and subsequent bizarre ramblings about polls, Biden ended up conveying exactly the opposite message.

Indeed, his remarks seem dangerously perverse.

For instead of making it clear that Obama was ready for any upcoming threats, Biden made it seem that he was anything but. So much so that in short order we would all be wondering what we had done in electing such an inexperienced man.

This once again shows that Mr. Biden is worse than a loose-lipped gaffe machine.

He is a dangerous incompetent who cannot even handle getting out a very simple but nevertheless highly important message.

Which is probably why our watchdog media is avoiding this story so studiously.

After all, it is Governor Palin who is supposed to be the Vice Presidential candidate in over her head.

Dan Rather: " if Sarah Palin had said this"
SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNmswO7AFs

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008.

Comments:

1) brad

This guy is just another arrogant big mouthed lawyer, and we certainly don’t need more lawyers. He thinks that he is so versed in the art of discourse, he can blurt out anything he wants then cover his tracks later.

He also told the crowd Hillary Clinton was more qualified to be V.P. than him. He’s right, and she is more qualified to be president than Obama as well. I have never liked the Clintons, but the hatchet job they did on her is just proof of how they will cannibalize each other, and that justifies the means.

Remember when McCain was the media darling because he was more moderate than Bush? –A true uniter the country (liberals) could count on? Now McCain is the biggest senile old racist the planet has to offer.

2) Sir Corky

Of course they turned on McCain. They got him the nomination because they knew he wouldn’t necessarily be popular with the far right crowd, and then they turned on him when it was in their best interest. And I’m in the same boat with you about the Clintons. I don’t like em, but they treated her like absolute garbage.

Palin handled this wonderfully, saying that one of the Obama administration’s five crises would be Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. I don’t know how I could love this woman any more.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-remarks-worse-than-just-a-gaffe

-- October 22, 2008 11:05 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Newly-appointed Kuwaiti ambassador to Iraq submits credentials to FM

Politics 10/22/2008 4:51:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Oct 22 (KUNA) -- Newly-appointed Kuwaiti Ambassador to Iraq Retired Lieutenant General Ali Al-Mo'amen submitted his credentials on Wednesday to Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.
The ambassador told reporters at the Iraqi Foreign Ministry "We have decided to put the past behind us .. our political leaders decided that in order to build mutual distinguished relations".
Al-Mo'amen is the first Kuwaiti ambassador in Iraq after a break of diplomatic relations between the two countries 18 years ago in the wake of the defunct Iraqi regime's invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
He reiterated that "Kuwait's doors are open to Iraqis in all fields, but we need time to organize such matter." Al-Mo'amen was chairman of the Kuwaiti Humanitarian Aid Center and offered numerous donations to many Iraqi governorates. (end) mhg.tg KUNA 221651 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 22, 2008 11:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's cabinet wants changes to draft security pact with US

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Baghdad, 22 October 2008 (AFP)
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Source: Middle East Online
Iraqi cabinet shrugged off US warnings
Iraq's cabinet on Tuesday called for changes to a planned security pact with Washington despite a warning from the US military chief that time is running out for Baghdad to approve the deal. The cabinet of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki met to discuss the deal that will provide the basis for a US military presence in Iraq beyond this year but ministers unanimously decided to seek modifications.

"The cabinet unanimously sought amendments to the text of the pact so it can be acceptable nationally," Ali al-Dabbagh said in a statement after the meeting, which was also attended by US representatives.

"The cabinet called on the ministers to submit their suggestions to be included in the negotiations with the US," he added.

The demand for changes, which were not specified, is expected to delay significantly the signing of the deal, which still has to be approved by the Iraqi Parliament after endorsement by the cabinet.

Iraqi satellite channel Al-Sharqiya reported that ministers from both the largest Sunni block, the National Concord Front, and the ruling Shiite grouping, United Iraqi Alliance, wanted amendments.

The cabinet decision came just hours after the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, bluntly warned that Iraq risked security losses of "significant consequence" unless it approved the deal. Mullen also charged that US archfoe Iran was working hard to scuttle Iraq's adoption of the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, which has already been the subject of months of fraught negotiations.

"We are clearly running out of time," said Mullen, warning that when the current UN mandate governing the presence of foreign forces expires on December 31, the Iraqi military "will not be ready to provide for their security."

"And in that regard there is great potential for losses of significant consequence."

The White House later sought to play down the dispute, saying it was not surprising the pact had encountered difficulties. "We knew it was going to take a little while to get this done," spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters in Washington.

Despite a series of US concessions, the pact remains hugely controversial in Iraq, with fierce opposition in some quarters, particularly the Shiite movement of hard-line cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

Even before the Cabinet decision, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari sought to dampen expectations of a swift approval of the deal.

"It is unlikely that the Iraqi Parliament will approve the SOFA before the American presidential election on November 4," the Web site of Dubai-based satellite channel Al-Arabiya quoted Zebari as saying.

He said there were differences between Iraq's political parties on the deal, which was originally due to have been sealed by the end of July.

"Because of the differences among the political groups, we don't believe the deal will be approved now. Iraq still hopes to sign this deal before the end of this year," he said.

Iraq's Political Council for National Security examined the agreement on Sunday and Monday and then forwarded it to the Cabinet.

Washington has made concessions to Baghdad to assuage its concerns about Iraqi sovereignty. Under the latest draft, Iraqi courts would have the authority to try US soldiers and civilians for crimes committed outside their bases and when off-duty.

Washington has agreed to withdraw its combat forces from Iraqi towns by June 2009 with a complete pullout in 2011 - eight years after the invasion that toppled now executed dictator Saddam Hussein.

But the US concessions still fall far short of the demands by Sadr and his followers for an immediate and full withdrawal of US troops. Sunni political groups, a minority in mainly Shiite Iraq, are concerned about an early US departure but have expressed their reservations about the pact by stressing the importance of respecting the nation's sovereignty.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 22, 2008 11:37 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Training program for teaching English language between Baghdad and Oregon Universities via Internet

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22 October 2008 (Iraq Directory)
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The Development and Continuous Education Center at the University of Baghdad launched in cooperation with the English language teaching Center at the University of Oregon in the United States the first training program in learning English for one year using e-education by "Internet".

The Director of Development and Continuous Education Center Baha Ibrahim Kadhim said the program will allow participants from the University of Baghdad to communicate and study with their teachers at the University of Oregon using the techniques of direct and indirect communication by Internet, noting that participants will be awarded certificates from the University of Oregon in the United States include the passing levels of this Semester successfully.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 22, 2008 11:38 AM


Sara wrote:

QUOTE:

Top Iran officials recommend preemptive strike against Israel
Safavi said Iran's decision would be influenced by the results of the U.S. presidential elections next month..

Essay Question: Which Presidential Candidate's win would foster a preemptive strike?
Which would scare the Iranians so they don't strike?
Extra Credit: If you were Israel, how would you feel about Iran saying once Obama gets in they will do a preemptive strike on your country?

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Top Iran officials recommend preemptive strike against Israel
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent
22/10/2008

Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.

The official, Dr. Seyed G. Safavi, said recent threats by Israeli authorities strengthened this position, but that as of yet, a preemptive strike has not been integrated into Iranian policy.

Safavi is head of the Research Institute of Strategic Studies in Tehran, and an adviser to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. The institute is directly affiliated with Khamenei's office and with the Revolutionary Guards, and advises both on foreign policy issues.

Safavi is also the brother of Yahya Rahim Safavi, who was the head of the Revolutionary Guards until a year ago and now is an adviser to Khamenei, and holds significant influence on security matters in the Iranian government.

An Israeli political official said senior Jerusalem officials were shown Safavi's remarks, which are considered highly sensitive. The source said the briefing in London dealt with a number of issues, primarily a potential Israeli attack on an Iranian reactor.

Safavi said a small, experienced group of officials is lobbying for a preemptive strike against Israel. "The recent Israeli declarations and harsh rhetoric on a strike against Iran put ammunition in these individuals' hands," he said.

Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz said in June that Israel would be forced to strike the Iranian nuclear reactor if Tehran continues to pursue its uranium enrichment program.

Safavi said Tehran recently drafted a new policy for responding to an Israeli or American attack on its nuclear facilities. While the previous policy called for attacks against Israel and American interests in the Middle East and beyond, the new policy is to target Israel alone.

He added that many Revolutionary Guard leaders want to respond to a U.S. attack on Iranian soil by striking Israel, as they believe Israel would be partner to any U.S. action.

Safavi said that Iran's nuclear program is intended for peaceful purposes only, and that Khamenei recently released a fatwa against the use of weapons of mass destruction, though the contents of that religious ruling have not yet been publicized.

Regarding dialogue with the United States and the West, Safavi said Iran's decision would be influenced by the results of the U.S. presidential elections next month, as well as by the Iranian presidential elections in June and the economic situation in the Islamic Republic.

Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that "the nuclear case is closed," and put it back on the agenda.

Safavi said he believed that U.S. sanctions on Iran have run their course, and that there would be no point in strengthening them. Tehran would therefore demand "firm and significant" U.S. measures in return for stopping uranium enrichment. He also said Ahmadinejad is not guaranteed victory in the June 2009 elections, particularly given the dire economic situation in Iran. Still, Iranian experts believe his only real competition is former president Mohammad Khatami, who has not yet joined the race.

Safavi said the inflation rate in Iran is similar to that before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, but that unrest among civilians today is not as strong. This is because the current government uses oil revenues to help the poor, he said.

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U.S. won't sell refueling jets to Israel, fearing strike on Iran

U.S. experts: Military strike on Iran won't derail nuclear program

Play the news / Will Israel strike Iran's nuclear sites?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1030279.html

Tehran would therefore demand "firm and significant" U.S. measures in return for stopping uranium enrichment.

And what concessions would they be able to bully out of an Obama Presidency? A McCain Presidency?
Could they POSSIBLY have anything to do with.. US policy toward Israel?

Sara.

-- October 22, 2008 12:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Is mere CHANGE enough of a goal, without specifics?

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'Change' Can Lead to Catastrophe
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
By: Thomas Sowell

Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous is not likely to get him to change his mind. But it may cost you a friend.

It is much the same story with true believers in Barack Obama. They have made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused by the facts, they resent being told the facts.

An e-mail from a reader mentioned trying to tell his sister why he was voting against Obama but, when he tried to argue some facts, she cut him short: "You don't like him and I do!" she said. End of discussion.

When one thinks of all the men who have put their lives on the line in battle to defend and preserve this country, it is especially painful to think that there are people living in the safety and comfort of civilian life who cannot be bothered to find out the facts about candidates before voting to put the fate of this nation, and of generations yet to come, in the hands of someone chosen because they like his words or style.

Of the four people running for president and vice president on the Republican and Democratic tickets, the one we know the least about is the one leading in the polls — Barack Obama.

Some of Sen. Obama's most fervent supporters could not tell you what he has actually done on such issues as crime, education, or financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, much less what he plans to do to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear nation supplying nuclear weapons to the international terrorist networks that it has supplied with other weapons.

The magic word "change" makes specifics unnecessary. If things are going bad, some think that what is needed is blank-check "change." But history shows any number of countries in crises worse than ours, where "change" turned problems into catastrophes.

In czarist Russia, for example, the economy was worse than ours is today and World War I was going far worse for the Russians than anything we have faced in Iraq. Moreover, Russians had nothing like the rights of Americans today. So they went for "change."

That "change" brought on a totalitarian regime that made the czars' despotism look like child's play. The communists killed more people in one year than the czars killed in more than 90 years, not counting the millions who died in a government-created famine in the 1930s.

Other despotic regimes in China, Cuba, and Iran were similarly replaced by people who promised "change" that turned out to be even worse than what went before.

Yet, many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters.

These ranged from Jim Jones who led hundreds to their deaths in Jonestown to Hitler and Mao who led millions to their deaths.

What specifics do we know about Barack Obama's track record that might give us some clue as to what kinds of "changes" to expect if he is elected?

We know that he opposed the practice of putting violent young felons on trial as adults. We know that he was against a law forbidding physicians to kill a baby that was born alive despite an attempt to abort it.

We know that Obama opposed attempts to put stricter regulations on Fannie Mae — and that he was the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. We know that this very year his campaign sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.

Fannie Mae and Raines were at the heart of "the mess in Washington" that Barack Obama claims he is going to clean up under the banner of "change."

The public has been told very little about what this man with the wonderful rhetoric has actually done. What we know is enough to make us wonder about what we don't know. Or it ought to. For the true believers — which includes many in the media — it is just a question of whether you like him or not.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_change/2008/10/21/142554.html

-- October 22, 2008 1:29 PM


Sara wrote:

But for the Grace of Almighty God.. the Future:

Then there were Biden's predictions on the economy:

QUOTE:

"I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? . . . Why is this thing so tough? . . . I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point, because you're going to have to reinforce us.

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision.' "

==end quote==

Biden is telling us that, at a time when Americans need to feel confidence in their government, they will be going "Oh my God!" Not a great message.

===

BIDEN'S BUNGLES: A BLATANT BIAS
Biden: Gets away with endless idiotic comments because his media-elite pals "know" he's no idiot.
October 22, 2008

Barack Obama's choice of Joe Biden as his running mate prompted a small wave of warnings about Biden's propensity for gaffes. But no one imagined even in a worse-case scenario such a spectacular bomb as telling donors Sunday to "gird your loins" because a young president Obama will be tested by an international crisis just like young President John Kennedy was.

Scary? You betcha! But somehow, not front-page news.

Again the media showed their incredible bias by giving scattered coverage of Biden's statements.

There were a few exceptions. On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," co-host Mika Brzezinski flipped incredulously through the papers, expressing shock at the lack of coverage of Biden's remarks. Guest Dan Rather admitted that if Palin had said it, the media would be going nuts.

So what gives?

The stock answer is: "It's just Biden being Biden." We all know how "smart" he is about foreign policy, so it's not the same as when Sarah Palin says something that seems off.

Yet, when Biden asserted incorrectly in the vice-presidential debate that the United States "drove Hezbollah out of Lebanon," nobody in the US media shrieked. (It was, however, covered with derision in the Middle East.) Or when he confused his history by claiming FDR calmed the nation during the Depression by going on TV, the press didn't take it as evidence that he's clueless.

And Biden is the foreign-policy gravitas on the Democratic ticket, so his comments are actually even more disconcerting.

The outakes of his Sunday remarks don't begin to capture the magnitude of what he said. After warning the crowd that there would be some sort of international incident - Biden could think of four or five scenarios - he told the donors: "We're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

What does that mean? Obama's election would provoke an international incident because of his inexperience and even Obama's biggest supporters won't be reassured by his response?

Then there were Biden's predictions on the economy:

QUOTE:

"I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? . . . Why is this thing so tough? . . . I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point, because you're going to have to reinforce us.

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision.' "

==end quote==

Biden is telling us that, at a time when Americans need to feel confidence in their government, they will be going "Oh my God!" Not a great message.

Needless to say, if Sarah Palin said this about a McCain administration, the media world would be exploding.

Whether you believe Biden is exaggerating, as he is known to do, or is providing real insight, the double standard in the media does even more damage to their lagging brand.

Part of the problem is their "Obama love," but we're also seeing the media elite's belief - prejudice - that anyone with an R behind their name is dumb. So, if they say something dumb, they must be dumb. A Democrat, like Biden, can make wildly inaccurate or outrageous comments and they are ignored because the TV and press insiders feel they "know who he really is."

On the stump recently, Sen. Biden declared he had "three words" for what the nation needs: "J-O-B-S."

Lucky for him, his name isn't Dan Quayle, or that would have followed him for the rest of his career.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10222008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/bidens_bungles__a_blatant_bias_134700.htm

-- October 22, 2008 1:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama's Mandate for Nationalized Same-Sex Marriage
Published on Wednesday October 22, 2008

Appearing Monday on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show," Joe Biden made the most high-profile statement yet of the Obama-Biden position on same-sex marriage.

DeGeneres asked where he stands on California's Proposition 8, a 14-word proposal that says, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

Those exact words were enacted originally as a California statute in 2000, when 61 percent of voters approved Proposition 22, the California Defense of Marriage Act. This May, in a 4-3 decision, the California Supreme Court threw out Proposition 22, declaring same-sex marriage a "right" under the California Constitution.

Proposition 8 would amend that constitution to include the 14 words Proposition 22 originally made state law. If Proposition 8 wins, same-sex marriage will be prohibited in California. If Proposition 8 loses, same-sex marriage will be permitted. In other words, if you are against same-sex marriage, you want Proposition 8 to win. If you are for same-sex marriage, you want Proposition 8 to lose. There is no middle ground.

In the vice presidential debate, moderator Gwen Ifill asked Biden directly whether he supports same-sex marriage.

"Do you support gay marriage?" she asked.

"No, Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage," said Biden. "We do not support that."

Were this actually Biden and Obama's position, they would be for Proposition 8. But they are not.

"If I lived in California, I'd clearly vote against Prop. 8," Biden told DeGeneres.

The actual Obama-Biden position on same-sex marriage goes beyond merely opposing Proposition 8. In fact, their position sets the stage for liberal federal judges to impose same-sex marriage nationwide by forcing states that have passed their own acts in defense of marriage to recognize same-sex marriages contracted in states such as California, where state judges declare a state "right" to same-sex marriage.

In June, Obama sent a letter to the San Francisco-based Alice B. Toklas Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Democratic Club. It was read at the club's June 29 meeting and reprinted in full in the July 2 edition of the San Francisco Chronicle under the headline "Obama opposes proposed ban on gay marriage."

Yet that was not all Obama said he opposes — or supports — in this letter.

He also declared that he opposes all state constitutional amendments that limit marriage to a man and a woman, that he opposes a federal amendment that would prevent states from being forced to recognize same-sex marriages, that he wants to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act, and that he wants to fully open the military to gays.

"I want to congratulate all of you who have shown your love for each other by getting married these last few weeks," Obama wrote. "I support extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law. That is why I support repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and the 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' policy, and the passage of laws to protect LGBT Americans from hate crimes and employment discrimination. And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states."

To make clear that he wants no distinction in law between traditional married couples and same-sex couples — including in laws regarding the adoption of babies — Obama sent a second letter Aug. 1 to the Family Equality Council, a group that says it envisions "a country that celebrates a diversity of family constellations."

"We also have to do more to support and strengthen LGBT families," Obama told this council. "And that's why we have to extend equal treatment in our family and adoption laws."

The federal Defense of Marriage Act that Obama wants repealed does two things. It defines marriage for federal purposes as the union of a man and a woman, and it says states will not be forced to recognize same-sex marriages contracted in other states, as they ordinarily would under the Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit Clause."

The Full Faith and Credit Clause requires all states to recognize the judicial acts of other states but says, "Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

If the policies Obama supports come to pass, California will have same-sex marriage, and the federal law protecting other states from recognizing California's same-sex marriages will be repealed.

Then it would be up to the sort of federal judges Obama would appoint to decide whether the Full Faith and Credit Clause — barring an act of Congress saying otherwise — would require every other state in the union to accept California's marriage law as their own.

- Terence P. Jeffrey is the editor in chief of CSNnews.com.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/terence-jeffrey.html

-- October 22, 2008 2:10 PM


Sara wrote:

I figure the nuclear attack on the Homeland I saw is today at least a couple of years away.
However.. what of this?
Simultaneously to that preemptive strike on Israel.. maybe?
And so.. (if Obama were elected) very soon?
QUOTE:

Iran has conducted missile tests from sea-based platforms, detonating warheads at the high-point of the missile trajectory, rather than the aim point over the target. These facts have now been documented in official government reports.

Connect the dots, and you find the picture of a workable research program for developing a covert means to deliver an EMP attack against the United States.

===

Wake up to Iran's Dark Dream to Disable U.S.
James Carafano, PhD, Clifford D. May
October 22, 2008

Which world leader is on record musing about "a world without America" — a goal he calls "attainable"? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Until recently, it was possible to believe that whatever Ahmadinejad's intentions, Iran was a long way from acquiring the capabilities it needs to achieve its goals. But a blue-ribbon commission has reported to Congress on what appears to be an Iranian drive to obtain the means to carry out an EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack.

An EMP attack is produced by launching a ballistic missile with a nuclear weapon attached — and detonating it high above the Earth. This produces a massive pulse of ionized particles that could damage or even wipe out many electrical and information systems. Such an attack would disrupt telecommunications, banking and finance, fuel and energy, food and water supplies, emergency and government services and much more, threatening millions of lives.

We've seen a blacked-out Southeast Texas in the wake of Hurricane Ike. We've seen New Orleans after Katrina. Now imagine that scenario over most of the continental United States. There would be a "world without America" — at least as we know it.

No one disputes that Iran is developing a robust long-range missile force. Few question that Ahmadinejad's regime is working on nuclear weapons development. Less well known is that Iran has conducted missile tests from sea-based platforms, detonating warheads at the high-point of the missile trajectory, rather than the aim point over the target. These facts have now been documented in official government reports.

Connect the dots, and you find the picture of a workable research program for developing a covert means to deliver an EMP attack against the United States.

A short-range ballistic missile could be carried on one of the thousands of commercial freighters sailing under "flags of convenience" that sail around U.S. waters every day. Without ever piquing the interest of the Navy, the Coast Guard, or the Customs and Border Protection, that ship could sail within range and deliver its payload over American territory. Even a modest warhead placed at the right spot over the East Coast could take down 75 percent of the electrical grid.

The genius of such a covert attack is that it doesn't come with an obvious "return address." The ship might be registered in Liberia. The crew might be Lebanese. The ship might disappear into the night — or be scuttled quietly.

Another advantage for a would-be attacker is the bang that can be achieved for the buck. An EMP attack would allow an enemy to wreak an enormous amount of destruction for a modest investment. It would mean no electricity, no food on the shelves, no phone, no fuel deliveries. Life would look more like the barter system of the 19th century, not to mention the millions that would die from traffic accidents, fires, failed hospital equipment, disease and the other chaos that would result from such an attack.

A lot can be done to deal with this terrible threat. For starters, we need to build comprehensive missile defenses that can shoot missiles down fired anywhere shortly after they lift off. We also need to develop national plans to mitigate vulnerabilities to an EMP attack and recover quickly from a strike if one does occur. (Remember Obama's pledge to CUT BACK on military spending? AND Nukes? - Sara.)

America, however, also needs to dust-off its nuclear deterrent. Of all the nations that could pull off an EMP attack or hand that capacity to a transnational terrorist group, Iran is the only country that has directly threatened to destroy the United States. While much America's infrastructure is vulnerable to EMP, the nuclear strike force is not. We need to inform Iran that if an EMP attack were unleashed on America, Iran could well be held responsible and suffer massive nuclear retaliation. (Like that will happen under an Obama Presidency - NOT! - Sara.)

Perhaps deterrence won't work. Middle East scholar Bernard Lewis argues that to a devout believer in Ayatollah Khomeini's apocalyptic ideology, mutually assured destruction may be "more an inducement than a deterrent." Still, it's worth making it clear that a steep price will be paid for such an attack. (Would there be any price to pay under a weak Obama Presidency? - Sara.)

In the end, President Reagan was right: Massive retaliation is not a morally supportable option when there are real alternatives. Comprehensive missile defenses, vigorous counter-proliferation programs, and making U.S. infrastructure more resilient are really the best ways to protect and defend the nation. The next president needs to make these a priority.

Indeed, demonstrating that America takes the threat seriously is perhaps the best message we could send to Ahmadinejad and those he represents.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1532/pub_detail.asp

-- October 22, 2008 2:23 PM



Sara wrote:

Time to mollycoddle the terrorists...
courtesy of the MAJORITY Democrats in the Congress of the USA.

===

Democrats quietly defeat resolution authorizing Iran blockade
Tuesday, October 21, 2008

WASHINGTON — The Democratic majority has shelved a congressional resolution that called on President George Bush to impose a naval blockade on Iran in an effort to halt its nuclear weapons program.

The resolution, introduced in May 2008, was supported by more than 200 co-sponsors but was blocked by opponents of U.S. policy in Iraq and shelved late last month.

Congressional Resolution 362 called on Bush to increase pressure on the regime in Teheran. The resolution demanded a ban on gasoline exports to Iran as well as "imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran."

"I am not willing to leave even the slightest crack open for this president to unilaterally set this nation down another disastrous path of war in Iran," Rep. Robert Wexler, a Florida Democrat and members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said.

This should not be our policy, and I regret the fact that I did not read this resolution more carefully," House Financial Services Committee chairman Rep. Barney Frank, a co-sponsor of the resolution, said.

Lobbyists opposing the resolution included pro-Iranian activists who asserted that the resolution could lead to a U.S. war against Iran.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) strongly supported Resolution 362.

Congressional sources said the defeat of the resolution marked increasing American reluctance to confront Iran. The sources said opposition could increase amid the global credit crisis.

"The next president needs to reorient U.S. policy toward Iran as fundamentally as President Nixon did with China in the 1970s," former National Security Council official Flynt Leverett said.

Leverett published a study with his wife, Hillary Mann, that argued that Washington's policy against Iran has ended up hurting U.S. interests. He called on the next U.S. administration to reach a "grand bargain" with Teheran.

"Pursuing a U.S.-Iranian grand bargain should start with the definition of a strategic framework for improving relations between the United States and the Islamic Republic," the study said. "Iran's security interests, including extending U.S. security assurances to the Islamic republic, lifting unilateral U.S. and multilateral sanctions against Iran, and acknowledging the Islamic Republic's place in the regional and international order."

The study came amid reports that Iran was accelerating its nuclear weapons program. The International Atomic Energy Agency has been investigating reports that a Russian scientist was helping Iran develop methods of detonating a nuclear warhead.

"The next [U.S.] president will inherit an American policy in profound disarray," Ilan Berman, a leading U.S. strategist, wrote in the Journal of International Security Affairs. "For all of its talk to the contrary, the Bush administration now gives every indication of leaving office without having taken resolute action to prevent the emergence of an atomic Iran."

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ss_iran0628_10_21.asp

He called on the next U.S. administration to reach a "grand bargain" with Teheran.

What a BARGAIN it will be! (sarc)
Just think of what the US will "bargain" away to get assurances of "peace" with Iran.
And who will suffer.

The study came amid reports that Iran was accelerating its nuclear weapons program. The International Atomic Energy Agency has been investigating reports that a Russian scientist was helping Iran develop methods of detonating a nuclear warhead.

Who could possibly be the intended recipients of these developed nuclear warheads?

Sara.

PS Note that EVEN as they block any possible response (by a blockade), they BLAME President Bush.. for "leaving office without having taken resolute action to prevent the emergence of an atomic Iran." Is that FAIR.. ?? Honorable? Just? True? Honest?

I didn't think so, either.

-- October 22, 2008 4:20 PM


Sara wrote:

OCTOBER 22, 2008 POLL: Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent

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AP presidential poll: All even in the homestretch
Oct 22 2008
By LIZ SIDOTI / AP

WASHINGTON (AP) - The presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that shows McCain and Barack Obama essentially running even among likely voters in the election homestretch.

The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as GOP-leaning voters drifted home to their party and McCain's "Joe the plumber" analogy struck a chord.

Three weeks ago, an AP-GfK survey found that Obama had surged to a seven-point lead over McCain, lifted by voters who thought the Democrat was better suited to lead the nation through its sudden economic crisis.

"I trust McCain more, and I do feel that he has more experience in government than Obama. I don't think Obama has been around long enough," said Angela Decker, 44, of La Porte, Ind.

The new AP-GfK head-to-head result is a departure from some, but not all, recent national polls.

Obama and McCain were essentially tied among likely voters in the latest George Washington University Battleground Poll, conducted by Republican strategist Ed Goeas and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake.

Polls are snapshots of highly fluid campaigns. In this case, there is a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points; that means Obama could be ahead by as many as 8 points or down by as many as 6. There are many reasons why polls differ, including methods of estimating likely voters and the wording of questions.

The AP-GfK survey included interviews with a large sample of adults including 800 deemed likely to vote. A significant number of the interviews were conducted by dialing a randomly selected sample of cell phone numbers, and thus this poll had a chance to reach voters who were excluded from some other polls.

It was taken over five days from Thursday through Monday, starting the night after the candidates' final debate and ending the day after former Secretary of State Colin Powell broke with the Republican Party to endorse Obama.

During their final debate, a feisty McCain repeatedly forced Obama to defend his record, comments and associations. He also used the story of a voter whom the Democrat had met in Ohio, "Joe the plumber," to argue that Obama's tax plan would be bad for working class voters.

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody," Obama told the man with the last name of Wurzelbacher, who had asked Obama whether his plan to increase taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year would impede his ability to buy the plumbing company where he works.

On Wednesday, McCain's campaign unveiled a new TV ad that features that Obama quote, and shows different people saying: "I'm Joe the plumber." A man asks: "Obama wants my sweat to pay for his trillion dollars in new spending?"

Since McCain has seized on that line of argument, he has picked up support among white married people and non-college educated whites, the poll shows, while widening his advantage among white men. Black voters still overwhelmingly support Obama.

The Republican also has improved his rating for handling the economy and the financial crisis. Nearly half of likely voters think their taxes will rise under an Obama administration compared with a third who say McCain would raise their taxes.

Since the last AP-GfK survey in late September, McCain also has:

_Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.

_Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.

_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.

_Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.

_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.

_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.

McCain has cut into Obama's advantage on the questions of whom voters trust to handle the economy and the financial crisis. On both, the Democrat now leads by just 6 points, compared with 15 in the previous survey.

Eight of 10 Democrats are supporting Obama, while nine in 10 Republicans are backing McCain. Independents are about evenly split.

Some 24 percent of likely voters were deemed still persuadable, meaning they were either undecided or said they might switch candidates. Those up-for-grabs voters came about equally from the three categories: undecideds, McCain supporters and Obama backers.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93VM4PO0&show_article=1

-- October 22, 2008 4:42 PM


Anonymous wrote:

IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Ten
Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Contrary to other polls, some of which show Obama ahead by double digits, the IBD/TIPP Poll shows a sudden tightening of Obama's lead to 3.7 from 6.0. McCain has picked up 3 points in the West and with independents, married women and those with some college. He's also gaining momentum in the suburbs, where he's gone from dead even a week ago to a 20-point lead. Obama padded gains in urban areas and with lower-class households, but he slipped 4 points with parents.

About IBD/TIPP: An analysis of Final Certified Results for the 2004 election showed IBD's polling partner, TIPP, was the most accurate pollster of the campaign season.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309546869309178

-- October 22, 2008 4:50 PM


Sara wrote:

Active Troops Disagree with Powell. Support McCain 3-to-1 Over Obama
By JB Williams
MichNews.com
Oct 21, 2008

Every American claims to “support the troops,” even those who have actively worked around the clock for years to “undermine the troops.”

Over the weekend, the man who recently traveled to the United Nations to lay out a very convincing case against the Hussein regime in Iraq put his race and his personal legacy ahead of his country and our troops by endorsing another Hussein for President of the United States.

Colin Powell has never been an honest Republican. He has only been an honest opportunist. Once Obama offered him a high level position in his administration, Powell was quick to join the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the American electorate.

Powell used intelligence from agencies still headed by Clinton appointees to make a very convincing case to the world for why Saddam Hussein had to be removed from power. For the record, despite the Clinton appointees, the intelligence was largely correct and Powell’s case at the UN was well justified.

But then the anti-war left prevalent in the State Department and CIA perverted Powell’s original assessment through a laundry list of fraudulent charges against the Bush administration. And even though Powell knew that it was his assistant, Richard Armitage, who had disclosed the “unclassified” name Valerie Plame, he sat on that information and let Bush, Cheney and in the end Scooter Libby, take the fall.

Powell is a pure self-absorbed opportunist and nothing more.

The Real Troops Speak Out!

Well known left-leaning media giant Gannett News Service, which owns a multitude of newspapers, radio stations, and other publications in the U.S. and the UK, also has a long history of supporting the Democrat Party.

Gannett also owns Military Times, Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Times, among others. They have on many occasions published anti-war and anti-Iraq articles across the mainstream press and in the military publications, much to the dislike of troops who have told a very different story about Iraq for years now.

But finally, Gannett and Military Times decided to allow the real troops’ voice to be heard by publishing a military wide presidential election survey of active duty soldiers from all branches.

With the obvious exception of the racial slant in the black vote, which like the civilian black voting bloc trends heavily towards the candidate running as an African-American, no other sector of the military comes even close to supporting Barack Hussein Obama for Commander-in-Chief.

Now, Obama supporters point to Powell. But Powell is a known political opportunist who has clearly taken a side against active duty military members before, and again in this election.

They will attempt to discredit the published results by claiming some right-wing slant. But the Military Times is owned and edited by left-leaning Gannett News Service.

They will call all non-black members of the military “racists” for opposing Obama, just like they label other Americans opposing Obama as “racists.” Never mind the overt racism in the black vote.

They might even try to label these men and women in uniform “fascists” – since they don’t know what a “fascist” really is and have misused the name to describe Bush and Cheney for years now.

But they can’t hurt our soldier’s feelings anymore than they already have by calling them “terrorists” running “Gulags” and “torture chambers.”

Yet the facts remain...

Active troops support John McCain 3-to-1 over Barack Obama.

Colin Powell stands to personally gain power and money by supporting Obama. What do the troops stand to gain by supporting John McCain for Commander-in-Chief?

As the men and women actually in Iraq and Afghanistan, who know best what is happening on the ground there and in many other dangerous places around the globe, does their opinion matter to average Americans back home? Do they matter to you?

What do we mean when we say “we support the troops?”

There is no ambiguity in the results of the military poll that shows despite a very heavy racial slant among blacks, all branches combined still support McCain by 68% over only 23% for Obama.

What does this mean about Americans back home who do not have their lives on the line, when they vote against the troops?

Who is better qualified to choose the next Commander-in-Chief? The troops “we support,” or the millions back home who have never put on a uniform or taken up a weapon in defense of this nation?

Who has more at stake than our troops in harm’s way, when deciding who the next Commander-in-Chief will be?

What does it say about you if their opinion doesn’t matter to you?

John McCain is “one of them!”

Barack Obama is so far from being “one of them,” that he can’t even begin to imagine what it is to be “one of them.”

The troops will serve under anyone we elect. Some of them will die under whomever we elect.

Do you have what it really takes to “support our troops?” Colin Powell doesn’t... Colin Powell has once again chosen to serve himself.

Read those numbers above. Think about the men and women who answered those surveys. Try to imagine what this election means to them. Then ask yourself why they won’t support Barack Hussein Obama for their next Commander-in-Chief...

Then ask yourself, how can you?

You can stand with leftists attempting to serve themselves if you like...

I, on the other hand, will SUPPORT THE TROOPS who support McCain!

(Click on url for a breakdown of the results, further statistic details.)

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21595.shtml

-- October 22, 2008 5:27 PM


Sara wrote:


Obama Ignores Credit Card Donation Fraud
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

What do Bart Simpson, Family Guy, Daffy Duck, King Kong, O.J. Simpson, and Raela Odinga have in common?

All are celebrities; and with the exception of Odinga and O.J. Simpson, they also are fictional characters. And yet, all of them gave money earlier this month to the campaign of Barack Obama, without any apparent effort by the campaign to screen them out as suspect donors.

The Obama fundraising machine may owe its sensational success in part to a relaxation of standard online merchant security practices, which has allowed illegal donations from foreign donors and from unknown individuals using anonymous “gift” cards, industry analysts and a confidential informant tell Newsmax.

An ongoing Newsmax investigation into the Obama campaign’s finance reports has exposed multiple instances of campaign finance violations and has been cited in a formal complaint to the Federal Election Commission filed by the Republican National Committee on Oct. 6.

Though many of the known violations include donations in excess of the $2,300 per election limit on individual contributions and contributions from foreign nationals, the extent of the amount of fraud is hidden because of a loophole in federal election law.

Campaigns are not required to disclose contributors who donate less than $200 — and Obama’s campaign refuses to release their names, addresses, and donation amounts. Obama has collected a staggering $603.2 million. Most of the money — $543.3 million — has come from individual contributors, half of it from “small” donors Obama won’t disclose.

The Obama campaign has turned a blind eye to the possibility of donor fraud. Reportedly, during the heated primary battle with Hillary Clinton, the Obama campaign “turned off” many of the security features on its online donor page, allowing any person with a valid credit card number to donate using any name or address.

Typically, card merchants require a cardholder’s name to match critical personal details, such as an address or, at the least, a ZIP code.

Though in recent months the Obama campaign has tightened up security and restored some of the security features used by merchants to weed out fraud, it still has left open easy ways for potential credit card fraud, including techniques similar to those employed by terrorists and drug traffickers to launder illicit funds.

For example, on Oct. 14, an individual using the name “O.J. Simpson” participated in Obama’s latest small-donor fundraising drive, making a $5 donation through the campaign’s Web site.

Giving a Los Angeles address, he listed his employer as the “State of Nevada” and his occupation as “convict.” The donor used a disposable “gift” credit card to make the donation.

The Obama campaign sent O.J. a thank-you note confirming his contribution, and gave him the name of another donor who had agreed to “match” his contribution.

Four minutes earlier, an individual using the name “Raela Odinga” also made a $5 contribution, using the same credit card.

The real Raela Odinga became prime minister of Kenya in April and has claimed to be a cousin of Obama’s through a maternal uncle.

Obama donor “Raela Odinga” listed his address as “2007 Stolen Election Passage” in “Nairobi, KY.” This credit card donation raised no alarm bells in the Obama campaign.

A few minutes earlier, “Daffy Duck” gave $5 to the Obama matching campaign, listing his address as “124 Wacky Way, Beverly Hills, Calif.”

But just as with Odinga’s address, the “Wacky Way” address failed to raise any alarm bells or security traps on the Obama Web site. Daffy Duck also used the same credit card.

Within the hour, three other new donors gave $5 to the Obama campaign. They were:

Bart Simpson, of 333 Heavens Gate, Beverly Hills, Calif.

Family Guy, of 128 KilltheJews Alley, Gaza, GA.

King Kong, of 549 Quinn Street, Capitol Heights, Md.

Newsmax learned of these contributions, which were all made on a single $25 Visa gift card (oddly, the total was $30), from a source that requested anonymity.

Calling himself “Bart Simpson,” the tipster said he had been following the Newsmax investigation of Obama’s campaign finance irregularities “with great interest,” and believed that some of the small donations were coming from gift cards — “you know, the type of disposable debit card you can pick up at Rite-Aid or just about any supermarket.”

[Editor's Note: See "Obama Campaign Runs Afoul of Finance Rules."]

“I tried it myself a few days ago,” he said. “I’m attaching for you proof of the contributions I made in the names of Daffy Duck, Bart Simpson, Raela Odinga, and Family Guy.

“What this means is that the Obama campaign does no verification of the name of the contributor. With a normal credit card, this wouldn’t wor[k], but with these disposable debit cards, no problem!

“This needs to be exposed,” he said.

The tipster attached the confirmation pages from the Obama Web site showing the names of the donors, and in some cases, the names of other Obama donors who had agreed to “match” their contributions.

None of the matching donors’ names appears in the Obama campaign’s public disclosures to the FEC.

Other donors with clearly fictitious names revealed previously by Newsmax, The Los Angeles Times, and blogger Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs) include “Dertey Poiiuy,” “Mong Kong,” “Fornari USA,” and “jkbkj Hbkjb.”

Five major companies process the bulk of all credit card transactions made in the United States, industry insiders tell Newsmax. The Obama campaign paid one of them, Chase Paymentech, just over $2 million to process its online transactions.

“We never discuss our relationships with any of our merchants, or customers we work with,” James Wester, a spokesman for Chase Paymentech, told Newsmax.

Newsmax asked whether Chase Paymentech had any security feature that would allow it to identify individuals making contributions using gift cards, but Wester declined to comment.

But other industry analysts, who asked not to be identified by name because of the sensitive nature of the issue, told Newsmax that processors could track gift cards and debit cards “only by the numbers on the cards.”

“There are no names associated with these cards, so as a processor, you have no way of knowing who made the transaction,” one industry analyst said.

Anyone can go into a supermarket or a Rite-Aid and buy a batch of these cards with cash, so there is no trace of the transaction, he added.

“It’s like walk-around money. They could be handing these things out as perks” to newly registered voters or others, “and there’s no way of tracing who is using them.”

Ken Boehm, a lawyer with 30 years of experience in campaign finance law, said that such contributions were clearly illegal.

“Making a contribution in the name of another person is the only part of federal election law that actually carries a criminal penalty,” he told Newsmax. Boehm is the CEO of the National Legal and Policy Center, a conservative think tank in Washington, D.C.

The Obama campaign has paid Synetech Group Inc. of Charlottesville, Va., close to $2 million to compile all of the campaign contribution data from online contributors, bundlers, telemarketers, campaign events, and direct-mail campaigns, and process it for submission to the FEC.

The sheer scope of the Obama fundraising juggernaut was “never contemplated by the FEC,” a company official told Newsmax, asking not to be quoted by name.

“It’s a lot of data. You’re talking 7 million contributions,” he said.

The campaign itself is responsible for screening out fraudulent donors, not Synetech, he said. “I’ve been doing this for 30 years, and this is as well-managed as any [campaign]. It’s just huge. When it’s this big, any little thing becomes something more than it is.”

One of the biggest problems the campaign faces is fraud, he said. “It’s a colossal problem. They’re paying the campaign with other people’s money.”

Individuals such as “Doodad Pro” and “Good Will” who made hundreds of contributions to the campaign in excess of the legal limits were not working for the campaign, but for themselves, he insisted.

“It’s all fraud. They do it for kicks. Or they’re testing the cards. The campaign doesn’t want this. Why on earth do they want to have all these messy little transactions? It’s a colossal pain.”

However, the campaign itself has solicited these “messy little transactions” in numerous e-mails to supporters.

For instance, just days before the Democratic National Convention in Denver, campaign manager David Plouffe sent an e-mail to supporters, asking them to “make a donation of $5 or more before midnight this Thursday, July 31st, and you could go backstage with Barack.”

Since then, the campaign has run several small donation drives, claiming to “match” donations of $5, $10, or $25 with an equal amount for a previous donor.

Newsmax put a series of questions to the Obama campaign more than a week ago in preparation for this article, such as whether its Internet contribution system automatically matches donors' names and addresses to their credit card numbers, as is common industry practice with online stores.

Newsmax also asked if the campaign uses a similar security screen to match a donor’s name and address to the card number when the donor uses a debit card or a gift card.

Despite multiple requests from Newsmax, the Obama campaign declined to comment for this story.

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/21/142761.html

-- October 22, 2008 7:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Newsweek, which has a sharing agreement with MSNBC, confirmed these undisclosed contributions...

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Sorry, Shuster: It's True Source of Much Obama Funding Undisclosed
By Mark Finkelstein
October 22, 2008

When a McCain campaign representative told David Shuster today that the source of much of Barack Obama's fund-raising is unknown, the MSNBC host scoffed, claiming only "right-wing" blogs could believe that and challenging the spokesman to cite a credible source.

Instead of fulminating about the conservative blogosphere, David might want to pick up a copy of Newsweek, which last time I looked had a news-sharing arrangement with . . . MSNBC. None other than Newsweek's Michael Isikoff reported those very facts about Obama's fund-raising last week.

McCain spokesman Ben Porritt was Shuster's guest during MSNBC's 4 PM EDT hour today.

View video here: http://mms.tveyes.com/transcript.asp?PlayClip=FALSE&DTSearch=TRUE&DateTime=10%2F22%2F2008+4%3A30%3A00+PM&market=m1&StationID=205
QUOTE:

BEN PORRITT: There is an issue that we don't know where one-third of Barack Obama's fund-raising totals have come from.

DAVID SHUSTER: Come on, Ben. One-third? What credible news organization said we don't know where one third of Obama's money is coming from?

PORRITT: Well over $200 million.

SHUSTER: Says who? Other than you. Name one. Nobody reported $220 million unaccounted for. No one. Except for some very right-wing blogs that don't have a lot of credibility. Name one credible news-reporting agency that backs up your assertion.

PORRIT: I will send you an e-mail and you can read it on air.

==end quote===

Here was Isikoff in Newsweek, in an article dated October 13, 2008 [emphasis added]:
QUOTE:

The Obama campaign has shattered all fund-raising records, raking in $458 million so far, with about half the bounty coming from donors who contribute $200 or less. Aides say that's an illustration of a truly democratic campaign. To critics, though, it can be an invitation for fraud and illegal foreign cash because donors giving individual sums of $200 or less don't have to be publicly reported.

==end quote==

Being the good sport he is, surely Shuster will read the Isikoff article on the air. Unless, of course, David's of the view that Newsweek doesn't qualify as a "credible news-reporting agency."

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/10/22/sorry-shuster-its-true-source-much-obama-funding-undisclosed

-- October 22, 2008 7:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi cabinet seeks changes to draft US deal
By Basil Adas, Correspondent
Published: October 21, 2008, 23:45

Baghdad: Iraq's cabinet decided on Tuesday to seek changes to a draft pact agreed with Washington to allow US forces to stay in Iraq until 2011, government spokesman Ali Al Dabbagh said.

"The cabinet has agreed that necessary amendments to the pact could make it nationally accepted," Dabbagh told Reuters.

"The cabinet will continue its meetings [in coming days], in which ministers will give their opinions and consult and provide the amendments suggested. Then this will be given to the American negotiating team," he added.

The announcement was an apparent reversal for Baghdad, which had previously described the draft as a final text. It was agreed last week after months of painstaking negotiations.


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Political leaders from most parties withheld their support for the text at a meeting on Sunday, raising doubts that it could pass through parliament without changes.

Troops not immune

The draft would require US troops to leave Iraq after 2011 unless Baghdad asks them to stay, and also lets Iraqi courts try American service members accused of serious crimes while off duty. But some Iraqi politicians have expressed concern over details such as the mechanism for holding trials.

Gulf News learned of reports of verbal altercations occurring between some leaders of the Shiite coalition led by Abdul Aziz Al Hakim and Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who belongs to Barzani's party, over Zebari's announcement yesterday that approval is unlikely to be reached before the US elections take place.

Still, President of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, has been pressing hard to gather support for the final US-Iraqi security draft this year, officials told Gulf News. "Security gains can be lost, federalism could collapse, and Iraq can slip into an intensified civil war," Falah Mustafa, a foreign relations official of the Kurdistan regional government warned.

A report issued by the Kurdistan Democratic Party says Iran will score a major victory if the final draft is not approved.

"The Iranians are doing their best to prevent the signing of the agreement because the do not want to give President Bush a victory at the end of his presidency," the report stated.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi experts discuss impact of global financial crisis on Iraq

At a seminar held in Baghdad on Tuesday to discuss the potential ramifications of the global financial crisis on the Iraqi economy, politicians, economic experts and business leaders discussed falling oil prices and the Central Bank's monetary policy.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iranian Army to engage in major land, air maneuvers near Iraqi borders

Military and Security 10/23/2008 12:40:00 PM



TEHRAN, Oct 23 (KUNA) -- The Iranian Army is planning wide-scale land and air maneuvers in the Governorates of Kermanshah and Ilam near the Iraqi borders.
An army command public relations department statement Thursday said the Army's land and air forces would engage in wide-scale maneuvers soon in the tow governorates to display and sharpen their combat capabilities.
The statement, which was picked up by semi-official Fars News Agency said the maneuvers would involve use of latest combat technology and gear and different combat styles.
The Iranian air force was recently engaged in maneuvers near the Turkish borders, an area which suffers frequent clashes between local security forces and Kurdish groups opposed to the Iranian government.(end) mw.wsa KUNA 231240 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:46 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi government takes security charge of 12th province from MNF

Military and Security 10/23/2008 11:11:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 23 (KUNA) -- A ceremony was held on Thursday in the city of Al-Hella, the largest in the southern Babel governorate, during which security responsibilities were handed over to the local authorities.
The ceremony during which the security responsibilities were handed over by the Multi-National Force to the Iraqi authorities was attended by senior officials from the two sides, namely Defense Minister Abdel Qader Al-Obeidi.
Authorities have enforced stringent security precautions ahead of the ceremony.
Babel is the 12th province where security authorities have been assigned to the local leadership.
Scores of people had been killed in many violent attacks in Babel, also known as "the triangle of death." Iraqi authorities have been struglling to restore full order to the country in the face of a violent insurgency. Violence has recently subsided -- noticeably.
Rebel gunmen have been waging bombing and hit-and-run attacks against state targets since ouster of the former Baath regime of the executed dictator, Saddam Hussein. (end) ah.rk KUNA 231111 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:47 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kuwaiti envoy to Iraq is "a step in the right direction" - Al-Jarallah

Politics 10/23/2008 4:02:00 PM



KUWAIT, Oct 23 (KUNA) -- Kuwait's Foreign Undersecretary Khalid Al-Jarallah on Thursday described the presentation of credentials of a newly-appointed Kuwaiti Ambassador Ali Al-Mo'amen to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani as "an important step in the right direction".
In a statement to reporters during a meeting with Mongolian officials to sign an agreement in the field of the environment, Al-Jarallah said that further steps were on the way to bolster relations with Iraq were on the way.
He said that Kuwait has not yet received the name of the new Iraqi Ambassador to Kuwait, adding that it would occur as soon as possible.
On the expected visit by His Highness the Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser Al-Mohammad Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah to Iraq, Al-Jarallah said that continued calls were being made by both sides to schedule the visit.
In reply to a question regarding a Kuwaiti citizen's penetration of the Iraqi borders, he said that "we (Kuwaiti authorities) have not received any information up until now from the Iraqi side". (end) ka.na.sd KUNA 231602 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq and the US are running out of bargaining time
By David Ignatius

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Iraq hasn't gotten much attention recently in the American presidential campaign, thanks to the reduction in violence there, but US policymakers are increasingly worried about what's ahead. The negotiations between Baghdad and Washington over a new status-of-forces agreement for US troops are deadlocked. With a December 31 deadline approaching, both sides seem to be running out of bargaining room.

The Iraqis are determined to assert their sovereignty though legal jurisdiction over US forces, while American officials are demanding broad protections from Iraqi law until US troops are gone in 2011.

US officials are warning that if the talks remain stalled, there isn't an easy Plan B, such as a new UN Security Council resolution to replace the one that expires at year-end, which now provides the legal mandate for American troops.

"I've tried to make clear the consequences of not getting a SOFA agreement," said Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq, in a telephone interview Tuesday. "The Iraqis should be under no illusion that a rollover of the UN resolution would be an easy option." He said the US would refuse anything but a clean, one-year extension of the current UN mandate - meaning that the Iraqis would lose the gains they have won in the new SOFA.

Crocker said he has advised the Iraqis that without some formal mandate, US troops will return to their bases January 1. "Without legal authority to operate, we do not operate," he said. "That means no security operations, no logistics, no training, no support for Iraqis on the borders, no nothing."

Iraq has been regarded as such a success story in recent months that many have forgotten that all the old cleavages still exist - Sunni vs. Shiite, Kurd vs. Arab, regional autonomy vs. central government. With growing uncertainty about the future of US forces in the country, these tensions are returning with a vengeance.

Mistrust between Kurds and Arabs almost led to a military confrontation in the Khanaqin area northeast of Baghdad in August. The Kurds had moved their peshmerga militia into the mixed Kurdish-Arab area, prompting Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to deploy Iraqi Army troops and order the Kurdish forces to leave. Crocker admonished both sides not to make stupid miscalculations, and US commanders warned they wouldn't come to Maliki's rescue. The overmatched Iraqi Army retreated, but the crisis left bitter feelings on all sides.

"The Kurds still see things as a zero-sum game, as does everyone else," grumbles another senior US official who has been deeply involved in the negotiations. Jockeying among the Shiite parties has been especially intense, he says, with none of the Shiite leaders wanting the potential stigma of supporting the SOFA deal.

Iran is waging an aggressive covert-action campaign to derail the agreement, US officials say. The new commander of US forces, General Ray Odierno, highlighted Tehran's push last week when he said Iranian operatives had been seeking to bribe Iraqi members of Parliament to reject the pact when it comes up for a vote.

This public allegation of Iranian meddling drew a rebuke from Maliki, but US officials say they have recently intercepted Iranian couriers carrying suitcases full of money to pay bribes and political subsidies to pro-Iranian parties. It isn't clear whether Washington is mounting a covert effort of its own to counter the Iranian campaign.

The Iranians obviously want to limit US influence in the new Iraq by defeating the SOFA, and in the process hand America a strategic defeat. But some top US officials think the Iranians have a more fundamental goal in pushing US forces out before the Iraqis are ready to take over - namely, bringing a final, decisive resolution to the Iraq-Iran war that ended in a 1988 truce. "Now, 20 years later, they have an opportunity to win that war," the official argued.

"My one-word definition of Iraq is 'fear,'" says Crocker. "Everybody is afraid of everybody. They're afraid of the past, present and future. They're afraid of the consequences of signing an agreement. But they should be even more afraid of the consequences of not signing."

A final complicating factor in the deadlock is the expectation among many Iraqi politicians that Barack Obama will be elected president on November 4, and that they'll be able to get a better deal from him. If Obama does indeed win, he could make an early show of leadership by telling Baghdad not to expect any sweetheart concessions - and make clear that he backs the agreement Crocker is working so hard to pin down.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 9:53 AM


Sara wrote:

Carl and Board;

Your concern is rightly placed, but I think there is strengthening reasons to hope for a good change of direction, in the direction of McCain. The thing that struck me from this 20 page report/Battleground Poll was the generic Congressional ballot, not just the two percentage of difference between the Presidential candidates. The report shows the ballot at 48-40 for the Democrats, which is up 3 points for the GOP and down one point for the Democrats from the beginning of the month's 49-37. And this happens even as it is observed that, quote, "the vast majority of pollsters in 2006 overestimated the percentage of the electorate that would be Democrats." So the numbers are clearly trending toward McCain (he is improving in the polls) and they are overestimating the Democrat vote..

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HORSERACE
30 Pages of PDF Fun From the Folks at the Battleground Poll
Thursday, October 23, 2008

Fascinating stuff in the Battleground Poll's full report out today. Obama leads McCain, 44-42, with 13 percent undecided.

Democrats lead the generic Congressional ballot, 48-40. It was 49-37 at the beginning of the month. Congress' approval is at 17 (higher than the Oct. 9 rating of 15 percent) and disapproval is at 74 percent.

Obama's favorable impression is at 58 percent, down a bit from the 62 percent the poll had Oct. 9. His disapproval has creeped up a bit, from 35 percent Oct. 9 to 39 percent.

McCain's favorable impression is up marginally, at 54 percent (52 percent a week ago); his unfavorable is down 2 percent to 42 percent.

Biden's favorable is down a similarly small margin, from 57 percent Oct. 9 to 53 percent now; his unfavorable is 33 percent.

Sarah Palin's favorable has rebounded and is now at 51 percent, up 4 percent from last week; her unfavorable 42 percent, down 3 percent from last week.

When you mention all of the candidates and their running mates, Obama leads 48-45. He led, 51-41, on October 9.

Does it mean anything? What about all the other polls showing Obama with a much larger lead?

I'm thinking back to this post (url), pointing out that the vast majority of pollsters in 2006 overestimated the percentage of the electorate that would be Democrats, sometimes by a wide margin. "Several pollsters were in the right neighborhood — Fox, Pew, Time — and a whole bunch were all making the same error in the same direction in their likely voter screen — Hotline, AP-Ipsos, Cook/RT Strategies, Newsweek, Democracy Corps, NBC/Wall Street Journal, USA Today/Gallup and the CBS/New York Times poll."

This doesn't guarantee that those guys will be wrong again this time around. But it is within the realm of possibility.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjM2N2Q4MjUzYTdhNDM0NzI1MTU3YmZmNGQzYmE1ZDM=

-- October 23, 2008 11:51 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Thanks for your posts this morning. I was particularly keen on reading the one titled, "Iranian Army to engage in major land, air maneuvers near Iraqi borders" which they say is directed toward the skirmishes on the border. I wonder if they are not sending out a larger message to Iraq about Iran's ability to retaliate if they should allow any retaliatory measures to Iran's preemptive strike against Israel? Thanks for posting it and the other info. It seems to me a RV of the Dinar would help "distract" from a lot of tension in the region and deflect people looking at Iran's nuclear developments. Which may be reason enough for Iran to allow such a move. It seems they are the ones preventing the SOFA (I can't find the article I read on this, but it was detailed, convincing and dated yesterday), and it lends credence to the belief that the Iranians are likely helping to hold up the economic progress (including the RV of the Dinar) as well.

Sara.

-- October 23, 2008 12:09 PM


Sara wrote:

The current handover of the 12th of Iraq's 18 provinces - Babil - is the province which once held the famous "Hanging Gardens of Babylon" - one of the ancient Seven Wonders of the World.

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Iraq takes over 12th province from US
by Benjamin Morgan
Oct 23 2008

HILLA, Iraq (AFP) – Iraq took control of the central Shiite province of Babil from US forces on Thursday in what officials declared was a further sign of security gains.

Babil, known for its ancient archaelogical treasures, is the 12th of Iraq's 18 provinces to be put under Baghdad's command.

Babil is home to 1.3 million Iraqis and was the site of the legendary Hanging Gardens of Babylon, one of the ancient Seven Wonders of the World.

The move comes amid continuing negotiations between Baghdad and Washington over a security pact that will provide the framework for the presence of US troops after a UN mandate expires at the end of 2008.

Local officials hailed the role of former Sunni rebels who joined US forces in fighting Al-Qaeda for improving security in Babil, whose northern region was known as "the triangle of death" because so much blood was spilled.

"Just a year ago this province used to see well over 20 attacks per week and today attacks are down by 80 percent. This is truly remarkable," Lieutenant General Lloyd Austin, the number two commander of US forces in Iraq, said at the handover ceremony in the provincial capital Hilla.

But he warned that the enemies of Iraq were still "not defeated" and offered US support to local forces in maintaining stability.

"I am confident that the central government and the provincial government, Sunni and Shiite will work together to ovecome any challenge we may face."

Babil governor Salem al-Saleh Meslmawe said the province was now stable.

"The Awakening forces played a big role for the stability and to kick out Al-Qaeda," he said, referring to the former Sunni insurgents also known as the Sons of Iraq who turned against the jihadists.

American forces are now expected to retreat to their bases, backing Iraqi operations only at the request of the provincial governor.

National security advisor Mowaffaq al-Rubaie said Iraq would also soon take over the neighbouring province of Wasit from the US military and that Baghdad hoped to complete the transfer of the remaining provinces "in the near future."

US Major General Michael Oates told reporters that the handover of Wasit, which borders Iran and is believed to be a major conduit of weapons and foreign fighters, would occur on October 29.

Baghdad, Diyala, Salaheddin, Nineveh, Kirkuk also remain under US control.

To the apparent frustration of the Americans, the Iraqi cabinet decided on Tuesday to seek revisions to a deal that was originally supposed to have been sealed by the end of July but has ignited fierce opposition.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081023/wl_afp/iraqunrest

-- October 23, 2008 12:26 PM


Sara wrote:

The article yesterday I read said it was a FATWA issued by Iranian clerics against the US SOFA military agreement.. here, it is "haram" - something banned by Islam - for the Iraqis to agree to the SOFA agreement. Couple this with the military "maneuvers" on the border.. what do you think the message is which Iran is giving? That maybe there will be retaliation against Iraq if they try to do this without Iran's consent?

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Sadr Ally: US Military Pact Will Harm Iraq Sovereignty-Report
Oct 23, 2008

TEHRAN (AFP)--A senior Shiite religious figure said to be the mentor of fiercely anti-U.S. Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has denounced as humiliating a draft U.S.-Iraq security accord, Iran's state news agency IRNA reported Thursday.

"We are aware of the pressures from the occupying forces on the Iraqi government to sign the humiliating security agreement," Grand Ayatollah Kazem al-Hosseini al-Haeri said in a statement.

"We know that this agreement will lead to loss of sovereignty and humiliation" for Iraqis," he said.

Iran-born Haeri moved to Iraq and became one of the leaders of the country's Shiite Al-Dawa party before being forced into exile in the 1970s.

Since then he has lived in the town of Qom, 150 kilometers south of Tehran.

"In earlier statements we already said this agreement is 'haram' (something banned by Islam)," Haeri said.

Moqtada al-Sadr, who is reputed to be living in Iran, is a strong opponent of the U.S. presence in Iraq and has consistently opposed the deal since it was proposed last year.

The cleric launched two bloody rebellions in 2004 from Najaf which left hundreds of his militiamen dead but established him as a hardline leader of the masses.

Tuesday, Iraq's cabinet called for changes to the draft agreement.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20081023\ACQDJON200810230836DOWJONESDJONLINE000647.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Sadr%20Ally:%20US%20Military%20Pact%20Will%20Harm%20Iraq%20Sovereignty-Report

-- October 23, 2008 12:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Here is change I can believe in.
Removal of the man who smeared the Haditha troops from politics.

Sara.

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Murtha's hold on House seat slips
By Mike Wereschagin and David M. Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, October 23, 2008

Two veteran warriors battling to represent the 12th Congressional District appear locked in the closest race in the district in years.

Democratic Rep. John Murtha leads retired Army Lt. Col. William Russell by a little more than 4 percentage points, within the Susquehanna Poll's 4.9-point margin of error. The poll of 400 likely voters was conducted for the Tribune-Review on Tuesday, amid uproar over Murtha's statement that some of his constituents are racist.

Russell, 46, a Republican who served in the Iraq war, jumped on the remarks. McCain, in a campaign stop Tuesday in Moon, said he "could not disagree with those critics more," without mentioning Murtha by name.

About 54 percent of voters among those polled say it's time for someone else to represent them in Congress. About 35 percent say Murtha deserves to be re-elected.

"The most important variable here is that a decisive majority say it's time for a new person," said Jim Lee, president of Susquehanna Polling and Research. He attributed some of the unhappiness with Murtha to the congressman's recent comments.

It's tough to know how big a factor that is, though, because little attention had been paid to the race, Lee said. Political analysts didn't expect Murtha to be vulnerable.

Murtha's last few challengers didn't come close to toppling him. He won by more than 20 percentage points in 2006 against Washington County Commissioner Diana Irey. He was unopposed in 2004.

This year, according to the poll, it's different.

"This is clearly a winnable race for Russell," Lee said.

Russell's campaign welcomed the poll results.

"In the beginning, we were facing an impossible task. A little later on, we were looking way up the mountain. Now, it looks like the summit is in sight," said Steve Clark, Russell's spokesman.

"I'll probably vote for (Russell) just to vote Murtha out," said Mary Eileen Churchel, 58, of Washington. She added that she still doesn't know much about the challenger, but thinks Murtha has been in office too long. Churchel, who plans to vote for Obama, said Murtha's comment about racism was "the last straw for me."

Russell moved to Johnstown within the past year. He said he decided to run after Murtha's 2006 statement that a Pentagon investigation into the deaths of Iraqi civilians in Haditha would show that Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

Russell repeatedly has criticized Murtha for not apologizing for the remark after seven of the eight Marines charged in the killings were cleared of wrongdoing.

Murtha has stood fast, saying his blunt language brought critical improvement to how American troops engage Iraqis. "We're no longer just breaking down doors," Murtha said.

Russell has raised a lot of money for a first-time candidate -- $2.5 million, compared to $2.1 million raised by Murtha, according to Federal Election Commission reports through Sept. 30. On Oct. 1, the Murtha campaign had $590,995, and Russell showed $333,413 in the bank.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_594741.html?source=rss&feed=1

-- October 23, 2008 1:18 PM


Sara wrote:

From article above,
QUOTE:

"I'll probably vote for (Russell) just to vote Murtha out," said Mary Eileen Churchel, 58, of Washington. She added that she still doesn't know much about the challenger, but thinks Murtha has been in office too long. Churchel, who plans to vote for Obama, said Murtha's comment about racism was "the last straw for me."

==end quote==

I think I mentioned that people don't like being called "racist" for NOT voting for Obama. I wonder how many people when interviewed by pollsters or the media SAY they will vote for Obama (as this lady did, above) just to not be seen as racist - but will vote differently when the glare of the media lights has gone away and they can consider the candidate without being accused of racism if they truly disagree with his policies, such as redistribution of wealth ("spreading the wealth around").. or his inexperience - which would place US interests at risk of being "tested" because he is a weak leader militarily.

If anyone had said a comment about accusations against them as "racists" being "the last straw for me".. I would have thought they would be voting for McCain, wouldn't you?

Sara.

-- October 23, 2008 1:38 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Creating A Sound Economic System In Iraq
Speaker: Baqir Jabr Al-Zubeidi, Minister of Finance, Republic of Iraq
Presider: Jeffrey R. Shafer, Vice Chairman, Global Banking, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc
October 8, 2008
Council on Foreign Relations

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JEFFREY R. SHAFER: If I may have your attention, please, as you're finishing up your lunch. I'm Jeff Shafer from Citi, and it's my privilege today to preside over this council meeting where our guest is minister of Finance of the Republic of Iraq, Baqir Jabr al-Zubeidi.
And before I begin and introduce the minister, I would like to inform you that today's meeting is part of the C. Peter McCullough series on international economics. And that the next meeting in the series is going to be on October 15th, 2008 where our guests will be Martin Wolf of the Financial Times, who I think is probably the most thoughtful person you could hear think about these troubled times we live in. It should be a very good event.
Also, I'd like to ask you to turn off -- not just put on vibrate but turn off -- cell phones, BlackBerrys, other wireless devices to avoid interference with the sound system as well as annoying your fellow audience members.
Also, this meeting will be on the record. Some meetings at the council are, and some aren't, but this meeting is on the record.
With that, I would like to introduce Minister Jabr by reflecting on the fact that given the importance that progress and constructing a strong society in Iraq has for we in America today. And my conviction -- and I think a lot of our conviction -- is that the way you do that is get an economy that works and an environment in which people can seek opportunities by having jobs and making a living.
The minister is in a position that, I think, is important to us. It comes just behind Secretary Paulson, to whom we look to create the conditions so that we have jobs here. So then our hopes are for the minister's success in managing an economy that is still in the process of being pieced back together again.
Minister Jabr has held his current portfolio for two and a half years. Before that, he served as Interior minister in the previous government. He graduated as a civil engineer and started a career in business. But in 1982, he went into exile and became active in the opposition to Saddam Hussein and then returned after 2003.
The minister today is accompanied by Tasser el-Kulak (ph), who is the chief of staff in the minister's office but who was placed there by the U.S. Treasury. So he will be interpreting for the minister and join him up here.
Without any further adieu, let me turn the platform over to you, Minister Jabr. (Applause.)
MINISTER BAQIR JABR AL-ZUBEIDI: In the beginning, let me express my thanks to the Council on Foreign Relations for making this effort and inviting all these friends to meet with me.
I give my thanks also to Mr. Shafer for introducing me. And I wish you well.
I believe that advancement in Iraq depends on three actions. First is the improvement of the security situation, improvement in the political process, improvement in the security situation and a sound economic system.
Since I was minister of Construction in Iraq, I strongly believe that the advancement of the security system depends on economic improvement, not on kinetic operation only.
And speaking on sound and robust economic system is also important, talking about sound and robust banking system. Also providing job opportunities, fighting unemployment, also providing services to the citizens and improving the living conditions.
On the front of providing services to the citizens, we have worked intensely with the other ministries and with the coalition forces on making the budget execution the focal our attention. In 2006, the size of the investment budget was only $6 billion, where in 2008 the investment budget reached 20 billion U.S. dollars.
The biggest challenge that we faced was the capability or the capacity of the provinces in terms of executing its own investment budget. And we are still suffering of this issue. However, we could talk about a little advancement in terms of budget execution. In 2006, the percentage of budget execution was between 28 to 36. In 2007, we witnesses improvement in terms of the performance of ministries. We reached a level of 73 percent of budget execution in 2007. And we expect the level of budget execution in 2008 to reach in the 80 percent.
I need to emphasize on one point here. When I say "budget execution percentage" I mean the level of commitment by the spending units, not the actual spending on the part of the spending unit.
On the other front, there is delay in terms of providing services to the citizens. And this is definitely an influential factor on the security situation. The reasons behind the delay in budget executions are many, and I can tackle these reasons during the discussion with you.
We have inherited a near-completed destroyed infrastructure from the previous regime. To give you an idea about how bad the infrastructure was, from the '70s to the time of the fall of the regime, the percentage of the budget execution or the size of the project (and ?) the sewage, only in that area, and the sewage reach only 6 percent.
When I talk about building the infrastructure, I refer to a study done by the Ministry of Housing and Construction, which says that to rebuild the Iraqi infrastructure system, we need roughly 400 billion U.S. dollars. The size of destruction is humongous.
Now we could refer to talking about the (debt ?) on Iraq. We have also inherited from the previous regime a sizable debt, reached 140 billion U.S. dollars. We have conducted intensive steps and procedures. We have signed an agreement with the IMF. Iraq committed to perform certain measures so we could finalize our deal with the Paris Club. The journey of dealing with debt has begun, and I can tell you that most of the debt was settled according to Paris Club terms with the exception of the debt we owe to the Gulf region and some other small debt.
I think one of the main problem in Iraq today is that we fail to invite the private sector at the right time. We failed to invite the private sector to come into Iraq and invest in Iraq -- the foreign private sector.
I could speak on two school of thoughts since the fall of the regime. One believes that the private sector is capable of rebuilding Iraq on all sectors. The other school of thought believes, like the previous school of thought, that the social system, the centralized system is the solution for what Iraq is facing. I am from the school that believes the private sector, the foreign investment is capable of resolving all of the economic issues that are facing Iraq.
In terms of improvement, many sectors were delayed, specifically the oil sector, the electricity sector and the construction sector were delayed in terms of (improvements ?). For example, when I talk about the construction sector, I talk about the need for housing. I talk about the need to build 2.5 million housing units today. And maybe within five years, that number would reach 5 million units.
The Ministry of Housing and Construction is building housing units. And since I was the minister of Housing and Construction, until today the ministry only builds a few thousand housing units only.
In terms of electricity, Iraq needs about 15,000 megawatts. What we have today is only 5,000 megawatts. Our own minister who assumed the responsibility of minister of Electricity has depended only on the public sector to solve the issue of the shortage of electricity. They have not relied on the private sector to solve this problem.
Also, in terms of oil, as you know, Iraq is considered one of the largest holder of oil reserves in the world. Also, the Ministry of Oil has not sought the help of the foreign companies to solve the issue in the oil sector. As a minister of Finance, I can tell you that I'm afraid that the Iraq capability to produce oil will decline if we don't go and seek the help of the international oil companies.
In terms of investment, the government was successful in passing the investment law in 2006. This law is considered good in relation to the investment law in the neighboring countries. And I don't claim that this law is the best and the ultimate, but it's a good step forward to invite the foreign investors into Iraq.
We at the Ministry of Finance have reached an agreement with the World Bank. And we signed the (mega ?) agreement that protects the foreign investors from any political turmoil or instability.
Before I conclude and I go to the question-and-answer session, I have to say one thing, that the delays in budget execution and the delays that contributed to the delay of the entry to the country by foreign investment are many. The first element that delays providing the services to the citizens is the security factor. And -- (inaudible) -- security factor prevent foreign companies from entering Iraq. However, I believe if the foreign investors have found alternative ways, he can enter Iraq through joint-venture agreements with the local Iraqi businessmen or the pan-Arab businessmen in the region or other means that we can discuss during the discussion.
The second factor that contributes to the delay of the foreign investor entry to Iraq is the set of laws that we inherited from the previous regime that are complex and ambiguous. But I can tell you that we are now overhauling these laws and improving them.
The main factor of all these delays is the fact that Iraq still depends on the public sector in terms of improving the economic situation. Therefore, I invite the American private sector to get in touch with the Iraqi private sector and also the government. And I say this especially after the security situation has improved up to 80 percent.
I can tell you that the government has signed an agreement with General Electric that reached up to $5 billion. And this is encouraging and hope that it will be followed by other similar steps.
And the other step that is not less important than the previous step is when I signed agreement with Boeing in Baghdad to buy a number of planes, the contract value reached to 5 billion U.S. dollars.
Yes, there are problems in entering Iraq, but these are not final barriers to entering Iraq. For example, when GE said its engineer cannot provide the service and the work in Iraq, we found another alternative solution that our engineers would do that job for GE.
We are hoping that the American private sector, private investors will seriously think about going into Iraq, finding alternative solutions to protect its investment in Iraq and finally come to Iraq to help the construction in Iraq.
I thank you very much for (your listening ?).
(Applause.)
SHAFER: Well, Mr. Minister, I think that that was a very informative talk that you gave. You covered pretty thoroughly the first thing that I though I would ask you about, which is, how do you deal with the unique problem for a finance minister of spending all the money you have instead of keeping spending money down to the money you have?
But I thought I would ask you one more question along those lines. And that is, if the security situation is improving and that's helping, if there's one more thing that one could make happen that would accelerate the pace at which in fact money's able to be effectively spent, what would that be?
AL-ZUBEIDI: The second step is for the foreign investor to take a serious step and check with the ministries and check on all the opportunities. We post all the business opportunities on the Internet. The foreign investor can go and check all these opportunities, all these contracts (online ?).
SHAFER: I thought I might also ask you, you did emphasize a good bit your interest in attracting foreign investment and the need to have foreign investment in the oil sector in order to keep production from beginning to falter again. I know that it is maybe politically the most difficult thing to do in Iraq and, at the same time, the most important in this respect to get this oil bill that would resolve the question of how the oil resource is going to be managed finally enacted. Could you give us an update of sort of the current status of that and what we should look forward to happening going forward?
AL-ZUBEIDI: I think that the hydrocarbon law was not delayed because of a technical issue, it was merely a political issue. The technical and the political were mixed together that resulted in the freezing of the hydrocarbon law. As a member of the Energy Committee, I have worked on the hydrocarbon law. We have solved almost 95 percent of all the issues. But then the process was stopped because of political reasons.
One of the reason is what I have indicated during my remarks is that there are two school of thoughts. One believes in the role of the foreign investment, the private sector, and the other school that believes in the cultural system. Therefore, we saw the accusations started and conferences were conducted across the world and in the neighboring countries. And the accusations, you know, have risen without any justification. They have accused the government of selling out Iraq to the interests of the foreign companies. And all these were baseless accusations.
The second relates to the difference in opinion between the Kurdistan government and the central government. I am hoping that we have already solved the first factor. We explained to the Iraqi public that Iraq was not sold. And it's absolutely an investment opportunity that the country needs to develop the oil sector. And I'm hoping that we will succeed in tackling the other factor.
But I can tell you this that after the stoppage of the discussion on the hydrocarbon law, the oil ministry has started contacting the foreign oil companies, and the licensing has started in the last month.
SHAFER: Okay. So things are beginning to move even without the law being in place.
TASSER EL-KULAK (PH) (Minister al-Zubeidi's interpreter): Yes. Because we have already that law. You know, we have the old law. We can work through that old one.
SHAFER: I thought I'd ask you as well -- you've emphasized a lot about the need to construct an infrastructure for the economy. And for at least a number of us in this room, one of the most important elements of the economic infrastructure is the banking system. And I know you're really having to rebuild that from scratch, that there are many parts of the country that haven't had banking offices, there hasn't been communication between them. Almost the only way to move money in the country, at least until recently, was to take currency from one place to another. What progress is being made? What can the Iraqi people see happening over the next year or so to get in place the basic infrastructure to support small business in Iraq?
AL-ZUBEIDI: Definitely we have inherited a destroyed banking sector. Since 1982, the Iran-Iraq war, then the Kuwait invasion, then the other war, there has been no development on that front. I can say that we have inherited a very primitive banking system. People who depend so much on moving cash, there is no computers in most bank branches. Although it is good to remember banks in Iraq have started working since 1945.
Some of the steps that we have taken since the last year and a half, we have brought into the country a comprehensive banking core system. We started this initiative with the (Rafidain ?) Bank, and we will soon move on to the Rashid Bank. We have indeed started using the (smart card ?) for all the recipients of the (food basket ?), the national -- (inaudible) -- in a way that is very simple, not complex, without the need even to use a secret number, only by using the (phone ?) -- only the card and the (phone ?).
Now we will move to make all the ministries pay their salaries through these systems. We will start with the Ministry of Finance where all employees at the Ministry of Finance will receive their salaries electronically. First, they have to open a bank account, then they can go to the bank account and get their salaries monthly.
The (real estate ?) bank has just begun giving citizens small loans to build housing units, although it is still small step, but it is good one.
We have a weak private banking system. We have started supporting this sector by referring all the government letter of credit that are below $2 million in value as a way of supporting this sector. And we are hoping to increase this threshold to 4 million (dollars). The problem is that the capital for those private sector banks is so small we cannot give a bank with a $20 million capital an LC for 200 million (dollars).
This is an invitation to the American banking sectors to go and do joint ventures with the Iraqi private banking sector, just like a child that you cherish and that you care for until he grows up becomes independent.
SHAFER: Well, thank you. You are clearly making progress. And as I can hear, it is a priority, and we hope to see that evolve and continue.
Let's turn now, Mr. Minister, if we can to the audience and see what questions they have for you.
I'd like to invite you to raise your hand and ask for the microphone. Wait until we bring you the microphone. And then I would ask you to please stand, state your name and affiliation. And please only ask one question and make it as concise a question as possible.
Why don't we start here in the middle.
QUESTIONER: Thank you. My name is Kenneth Bialk (ph). Thank you for a very interesting and encouraging presentation. I think you know that all of us in the United States are very pleased with the progress toward government and democracy that Iraq is showing. In your comments, you identified some obstacles to progress. And you've said that they were being overcome rapidly. And in your supplemental comment, you talked about or referenced the hydrocarbon law, an inability to reach agreement with the government of Kurdistan. And many of us who are generalists and follow the press read that one of the main obstacles to the coming together of your government in political and economic terms is the allocation of resources among the three sectors -- the Kurdish, Shi'a and Sunni -- and the lack of agreement amongst them in the division of resources and the allocation of revenues. And I wonder if progress toward that issue is included with the 98 percent or whatever percentage you gave in the elements of progress toward resolving all open issues? Thank you.
AL-ZUBEIDI: Thank you for the question. It is very, very important question. And the irony or the interesting thing here is that I am in charge of putting together the law of revenue sharing. I was charged, I was tasked by the government to put a draft for the revenue sharing law.
This issue is a very sensitive and very dangerous issue. The constitution says in one of its stipulations that the revenue or the release of those should be distributed equally among all segments of the Iraqi society. Therefore, the Ministry of Finance, when it prepared the budgets, applied this law to the letter. And this draft law says that all revenues from selling oil should come to the DFI fund and then should be distributed on all Iraqi provinces through the budget process equally and based on the concentration of population in each province.
Even though this revenue sharing law was not passed, right now we distribute the resources based on the distribution of population in all the provinces.
SHAFER: Here, Mr. Laurenti.
QUESTIONER: Jeff Laurenti at the Century Foundation. Minister Zubeidi, the old Ba'ath-Arab socialist regime had littered the budget with lots of subsidies for consumer commodities, basic commodities like food and fuel. And despite the Bremer occupation's effort to create a free market island in Iraq, there was a good deal of pushback from Iraqis and the smart card program that you outlined. It was suggested there is still a major share of your budget that goes to consumer subsidies for basic necessities. What is that share now? And how has it changed? And what are the long-term plans, what's the political support for continuing it? And do you have the administrative capacity, with the flight of so much administrative talent to the safety of Damascus and Oman, to actually get those subsidies, get the kind of education programs throughout the country? Or are there areas where you just don't pump that money out?
AL-ZUBEIDI: We have engaged with the prime minister about a month ago. And we see this discussion about this issue, and the prime minister is seriously considering eliminating all the subsidies to the food basket.
All the polling that we conducted, the official polling or those done by private sector and others, indicates that 90 percent of the Iraqi population would like to keep the subsidies for the food basket program. This cost the budget in 2007 and 2008 roughly about 5 billion U.S. dollars.
We are concentrating on some alternative solution, one of which is to make the citizen choose between receiving the subsidies food basket items and between receiving cash for this. There are many ideas. We have formed a committee that studies all these solutions. But I can tell you right now that it is still very early to say that this subsidy will be eliminated soon because large segment of the Iraqi society still depend on receiving the food basket allocation.
We have increased the civil sector salaries by 75 percent. After we increased the salary by 75 percent, we have studied (a standard ?) of our employees, the Ministry of Finance employees. We found that 80 percent of those sampled still refuse the idea of eliminating the subsidy -- (inaudible) -- even though they receive cash instead. What shall we do? (Laughter.) We will create another problem for security. (Laughs.)
SHAFER: The question put another thought in my head. It would be interesting to know how it looks to you. We hear that with the improvement in security that some of these people who have gone abroad, the talent, is beginning to come back. Is that happening? Does that mean that you have a stronger pool of people to draw from in building your ministry and the other ministries and the capacity to do the things you want to do?
AL-ZUBEIDI: Yes, yes, this is true. For example, in the medical field, many have come back, especially a few who I know that with the increase in salary now the salaries for those who work in the medical field is becoming almost adequate to the neighboring countries.
SHAFER: Let's see. Let me go back to the center right here. Yeah.
QUESTIONER: Thank you, Mr. Minister. My name is Roland Paul (sp). Of course, all right-thinking Americans hope your government will succeed and support it. So I hope you're not offended by this question. But what steps have you been taking or have been taken to eliminate corruption in the programs you are responsible for or are familiar with? And how successful have you been?
AL-ZUBEIDI: Thank you very much for this question. Indeed, my ministry and the government of Iraq at large is suffering from this corruption epidemic since the fall of the regime. Let me relate a little story to you. I have visited an Iraqi psychiatrist, someone who's a specialist in psychiatry. And I asked him the question, what has impacted the Iraqi personality from a rich-in-history pride, a personality that feels the pride of belonging to Iraq into a personality that accepts bribery and corruption this easily? He told me that since 1982, the successive wars that Iraq was forced to engage in and the salaries that the Iraqi civilians receive during the sanction that in most cases that was no more than $1 per month is the main factor for this corruption or this change in personality.
I can tell you that we have not succeeded in eliminating corruption today. However, we have changed many laws. We have established the Commission on Public Integrity. We have the -- (inaudible). We have other committees that is doing the follow up. And we are very hopeful that in the near future we will be able to curb down the corruption to a great degree.
SHAFER: Mr. Minister, we do have a strong tradition at the Council on Foreign Relations of ending on time, so I must apologize to the members of the audience that did not have a chance to ask their questions. But I think you have been very informative for all of us who follow what is going on and try to understand what is going on in Iraq. And as I think you've heard from many people, we all share very strong hopes for your continued success.
So I hope you'll join with me in expressing your appreciation to Minister al-Zubeidi.
(Applause.)
(www.cfr.org)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 23, 2008 2:41 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

Carl…….

I share some of your same fears about our country sliding into socialism. Obama has laid out a clear plan on doing just that. Democrats have always believed in the Robin Hood approach to spreading the wealth around. I was raised with the understanding that there is nothing wrong with a “hand up” but it’s very different from a “hand out”. Sadly, our government is the problem and not the solution and continues to place their interests ahead of ours. I believe, if Obama is elected, we will be getting closer and closer to a taxpayer revolt.

During my lifetime, other than Christ and my parents, I’ve only been associated with three entities that put my interest on an even keel or above their own. The Boy Scouts, US Military and Freemasons have given me a lot of tools on getting thru this world and life. I worked my way thru university as a middle linebacker and that experience also taught me how to apply a good ole forearm shiver to the head of someone trying to drag me in a direction I didn’t want to go.

I believe we have enough people left in the US, that don’t approve of socialism, that will rise up and change the way our politicians run our country. After all, they’re our hired help and we can manage them in a manner that makes them truly understand that “WE THE PEOPLE” own this nation.

-- October 23, 2008 3:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Gallup has McCain within four points of Obama today.
I thought this worthwhile mentioning.. as war with Iran would affect the Dinar investment, wouldn't it?
QUOTE:

In response to seeing a weakling in the White House, will Russia do something rash in Eastern Europe, like invade Ukraine? Will South Korea develop a bomb, knowing the U.S. won’t stop it? Will Iran attack Israel, as it has promised, thinking America has become a paper tiger? We don’t know, but maybe Joe Biden does.

===

Was Biden talking about Obama’s plan for unilateral disarmament?
October 23, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Plenty of people have been scratching their heads over Joe Biden’s warning to voters that electing Barack Obama would precipitate an international crisis to “test his mettle”. Investors Business Daily agrees with Biden, and notes that this wasn’t an off-the-cuff gaffe; Biden repeated the warning in two different venues. IBD points to this early Obama campaign video, in which Obama pledges unilateral disarmament on several fronts, as evidence supporting Biden’s hypothesis:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqhoiK8-Ww
QUOTE:

But there’s another angle to this, based on what Biden the senator knows — that Obama’s defense policies, once it’s obvious how they’ll undermine us, are likely to be very, very unpopular. In this case, Biden may be calling on his party’s hard, pacifist core — Moveon.org, Code Pink and the like — to stand by their man.

He’ll need their support. Like Jimmy Carter in the 1970s, Obama’s policies often sound good on the surface, but will in fact materially weaken America’s ability to defend herself. That’s not just our opinion, mind you; it’s straight from the horse’s mouth. …

Such policies will create a vacuum that our foes will be only too happy to exploit.

In response to seeing a weakling in the White House, will Russia do something rash in Eastern Europe, like invade Ukraine? Will South Korea develop a bomb, knowing the U.S. won’t stop it? Will Iran attack Israel, as it has promised, thinking America has become a paper tiger? We don’t know, but maybe Joe Biden does.

==end quote==

Indeed. This video had been largely forgotten since its appearance early in the primaries, when Obama sought the support of the Kucinich Left in his party. Obama deliberately positioned himself to the left of Hillary Clinton in the hopes that he could wrest support from people like Dennis Kucinich and Chris Dodd and emerge as the alternative to the Restoration. Only after he beat Hillary in the primaries did he move back towards the center on issues like the FISA reform bill, long after he had locked up enough support to gain the nomination.

Since then, though, Obama has tried hard to position himself as a Scoop Jackson Democrat. Obama has dropped all mention of the missile defense system or of unilaterally cutting back nuclear weapons. Obama worked hard over the summer to project himself as a traditional strong-defense candidate, and it seemed to have worked … until Biden inadvertently undermined him this week. It eliminated any help the Colin Powell endorsement gave him in terms of national security, and gave John McCain and Sarah Palin a gift on the campaign trail in reopening the national-security issue.

But did Biden mean to warn that unilateral disarmament would be unpopular, or that Obama would initially alienate the Left by demonstrating military strength in an international crisis? One could argue it either way, but I don’t think he meant to worry about the Left leaving Obama. I think Biden wanted the Left to remain activist to support a retreat philosophy in the face of aggression from our enemies. Obama has consistently fronted that policy, in Iraq and elsewhere, both as a Senator and as a presidential candidate.

Biden knows Obama will need the Left to support the consequences of its Kucinich vision for American foreign policy. That’s what the warning meant, and this video is ample evidence of the direction Obama will take in national security.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/was-biden-talking-about-obamas-plan-for-unilateral-disarmament/

-- October 23, 2008 3:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Biden: McCain is a “Die Hard”
October 23, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Anyone think this comparison will bother John McCain? It’s certainly not going to bother Bruce Willis:
QUOTE:

As Biden tried to tie McCain to President Bush this morning, he slipped and referred the Republican nominee as “John McLane.” He immediately recognized the mistake, and tried to roll with it.

“I don’t recognize him anymore. I used to know him well,” he said, before acknowledging it was “a bad joke.” The crowd laughed politely, anyway.

==end quote==

First Barack Obama will get pushed around on the international stage, and now McCain is a Die Hard.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/biden-mccain-is-a-die-hard/

-- October 23, 2008 10:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Just imagine the rebound when he WINS! :)

===

Bartiromo: Market Bounced Today Because Prez Race Tightened
By Noel Sheppard
October 23, 2008

CNBC's Maria Bartiromo on Thursday excitedly told viewers that an intra-day rally which had brought the Dow Jones Industrial Average from down about 275 to up over 170 was caused by rumors that the presidential race had tightened.

I wonder if these rumors will get reported by Obama-loving press members.

With about fifteen minutes to go in the trading session, the camera found a suddenly happy Bartiromo on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange gleefully saying the following (file photo):
QUOTE:

Welcome back, down here on the floor with Dylan. Just walking around, hearing some rumors about one of the reasons that this market bounced off the bottom is there are rumors in the market, speculation that the race for the White House is getting tighter. And one trader telling us just moments ago that he thought the reason that the market was so low was when Obama had the lead because he's gonna raise taxes. And then when things got tighter, things bounced off the bottom. At some point you have to believe this market starts trading on the White House. [...]

Don't underestimate tax increases on capital gains. Capital gains at fifteen percent going to 28 percent, this market's gonna trade down if we see that.

===end quote===

Wouldn't it be nice if other networks and press outlets actually had intelligent business reporters like Bartiromo willing to share what's happening each day on Wall Street?

After all, there have been many market watchers in the past five weeks claiming that part of the recent stock declines are the result of fear that Obama is going to win and that his tax policies will be very bad for business and therefore stock prices.

Whether folks are concerned about such things or not, isn't it media's job to report it?

Or is that too much like journalism?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/23/bartiromo-market-bounced-today-because-prez-race-tightened

-- October 23, 2008 10:30 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain ad: “I am Joe”
October 23, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

This is a web ad that complements the TV ad Team McCain released yesterday. The 90-second ad has several people telling the camera how much they identify with Joe Wurzelbacher — and how much they resent redistributionist policies:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS0OYjMKCdc

From the press release:
QUOTE:

Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released its latest web ad, entitled “I am Joe.” The ad features Americans who submitted their homemade videos to the campaign telling their stories and how they are like “Joe the Plumber.” Like Joe in Ohio, people from across the country do not want to see their taxes increase as Barack Obama proposes. They don’t want a president who will “spread the wealth around” instead of creating new wealth and new opportunity. They don’t want a president who sees economic success, expansion and job creation as an excuse to increase taxes. They don’t want a president who will place a tax on the American dream.

==end quote==

Joe the Plumber has become the new Spartacus. (The press certainly provided a crucifixion, once his impact became apparent.) And it seems to be working, at least according to the AP and McClatchy. Spartacus II has begun driving voters back to McCain in Florida:
QUOTE:

Make way Barack Obama and Sarah Palin — it looks like there’s another polling phenomenon in Florida: The Joe the Plumber Effect.

As he pounds Obama for telling America’s most famous handyman that he wants to ‘’spread the wealth around,” John McCain is improving his standing in Florida, with a Wednesday poll showing the Republican presidential candidate with a 1 percentage-point lead. …

Not only does the economic crisis — a benefit to Obama — no longer lead the news casts, McCain has finally seized on a pocketbook issue by using the plumber to talk taxes, welfare and socialism, said Mason-Dixon pollster Brad Coker.

==end quote==

It may not have happened by design, but McCain may have found an October Surprise in Joe Wurzelbacher.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/mccain-ad-i-am-joe/

-- October 23, 2008 10:35 PM


Sara wrote:

*Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth as offered in a
local newspaper...** **
*
*Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote
Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. **

Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as
he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that
I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there
in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to
someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server
angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server
inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was
grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized
the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter
was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the
actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept
than in practical application. *

-- October 24, 2008 2:24 AM


Carole wrote:

Hi Everyone,

After new perspective and some R&R, I am going back on the Campaign trail. Will be in Colorado and then Nevada till Nov 3.
Please everyone join the Team Sarah.org campaign. The target is to enroll 1 million women (and men) in a blitz over the next 10 days.

We may still be able to turn this thing around.....in spite of the mistakes Mc Cain has made with this campaign.

My theory is that Republicans MUST win as much as they can in this election. If Mc Cain wins and can accomplish nothing in the next 4 years because of the democratic ( destructive ) congress.....well "nothing " is better than what Obama would do,that will take 3 generations to undo!

Pray without ceasing and do everything you can to advance the cause of conservatism.

Hugs and kisses,

Carole

ps. since I last posted....I am now a GREAT-GRANDMOTHER.....TO...WHAT ELSE????ANOTHER GIRL!

-- October 24, 2008 7:09 AM


Sara wrote:

I feel this development worthwhile mentioning.
God forbid America ever follows in these steps, or it will be the end of her Sovereignty.

===

Lawmakers back animal-human embryo research
Oct 22 2008

The lower house of parliament approved legislation Wednesday allowing scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical research, in the biggest shake-up of embryology laws in two decades.

Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups, MPs in the House of Commons backed the Human Embryology and Fertilisation Bill by 355 votes to 129. It will now go to a vote in the House of Lords, and could be law by November.

The wide-ranging bill, which has been debated for months, would also allow "saviour siblings" -- children created as a close genetic match for a sick brother or sister so their genetic material can help treat them.

In addition, it gives lesbians and single women easier access to in-vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment by removing requirements for clinics to consider a child's need for a father.

Hybrid embryos, created by inserting the nuclei of a human cell into an animal egg, can ensure a more plentiful supply of stem cells for use in research into treating conditions like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

16 MPs from his ruling Labour party, including former minister Ruth Kelly, a staunch Catholic who quit the government this month, voted against the bill and religious groups warned it was the next step on a "slippery slope".

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081022220116.18n6mjal&show_article=1

-- October 24, 2008 10:42 AM


Sara wrote:

MY Comprehensive List Against Barack Hussein Obama being President, based on the ISSUES:

1) Abortion expansion as his first act of office - reinstating partial birth abortion, eliminating parental notification, and forcing the taxpayer to fund abortion.
SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__ctD48nfQ
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137919

2) Imposition of Same-Sex Marriage Nationwide by forcing states that have passed their own acts in defense of marriage to recognize same-sex marriages contracted in states such as California, where state judges declare a state "right" to same-sex marriage. The achieving of his stated aims to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act, and fully opening the military to gays. As well as, quote, "I support extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law. We also have to do more to support and strengthen LGBT families," Obama told this council. "And that's why we have to extend equal treatment in our family and adoption laws." From this we see the advancement of homosexual adoption expansion. The exalting of the most debased "lifestyles" like his Hollywood friends promote in their debauched movies. Greater inundation of the public sphere with the gutter morality of his Hollywood friends - a deep drink of its poison. (Remember what God did to Sodom and Gomorrah.)
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#138021

3) Expansion of embryonic stem cell research and allowing hybrid human/animal clone creation for research, such as was just approved in the UK. God's anger on this issue is so infinite, you may watch the UK cease to be a nation now as God removes their Sovereignty for this affront to His Glory, which they approved of recently over ethical reason/objection. God would do the same to America if she were so foolish as to pursue this defacing of God's image and defiling it with the image of beasts. Beastiality is still beastiality, in whatever form mankind practices it, even on the cellular level for human/animal experimentation. The consequences are dire.
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#138056

4) Tax and spend - destruction of the US economy by socialist redistributionism, heavier tax burdens. See, "74% of CEOs Believe Obama Would Be Disastrous for the Nation" which states, quote, "[Obama's] programs would bankrupt the country within three years"

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137816

One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting (this, below):
Investors' Real Fear: A Socialist Tsunami - By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY:

The Crash: "Why has the market dropped so much?" everyone asks. What is it about the specter of our first socialist president and the end of capitalism as we know it that they don't understand?

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137825

Obama's slowly instituted repudiation of the free market economy and an end to capitalism will result in a vision nationalizing everything as Hugo Chavez did his nation, starting with...

5) A Bankrupting and effective services destroying Socialized National Health Care program.

Look at the "success" of the nations who have taken this route and how "accessible" that "care" is for their recipients, for instance, France.
Quote:

"Alert Michael Moore! Both he and the World Health Organization say France has the best health care system in the world, and America's system is barely better than Slovenia's. However, French professor Alice Teil not only said the French system is “not sustainable anymore,” but copying parts of America's could save it. "It's true we really have good access, but what if the system is not sustainable anymore?" says Teil. "It's going to break. It's going to blow. And then no more accessibility for anybody." Tiel says the cost of France's socialized health care is growing faster than its economy. Workers pay about fifty percent of their paycheck each month into healthcare, retirement and unemployment and more companies are outsourcing jobs to avoid those costs. Quality of care also suffers in France, says Teil, because hospitals and doctors resist government requirements to report their success and failures. By contrast, Tiel says privately-owned hospitals in the U.S. are motivated to measure and report their quality of care, which leads to better care. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lynn-davidson/2007/08/27/french-health-care-expert-frances-system-broken-should-copy-us-media-

AND:

Sens. Obama and McCain also agree that health care and health insurance cost too much. But how to bring down these costs is where they diverge. Sen. Obama sees a much bigger role for the federal government, while Sen. McCain believes a truly competitive market for health insurance is the best way to lower costs and increase choices. As Jonathan Oberlander, Ph.D., wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine (Aug. 21, 2008): “The candidates’ opposing visions of health care reform reflect fundamentally different assumptions about the virtues and vices of markets and government.”

"Experts have concluded that Sen. Obama’s national health insurance plan would lead to the deterioration of the private health insurance market, with the federal government – and therefore taxpayers – covering an increasingly large share of the American population. In time, private plans would begin to disappear as the government undercut them on pricing, and consumers would eventually have no option but the government plan. This inevitably would lead, as we have seen in many other countries that have government-dominated health sectors, to rationing of health services, deterioration of quality, curtailment of choice, and long waiting lists.

- "Your Health, Your Vote" @
http://www.galen.org/component,8/action,show_content/id,13/blog_id,1096/category_id,2/type,33/

6) LOSE the Iraq war, NOT bringing home the troops in honor. Moving on to Afghanistan, with the same results..

Do I even need to document this one since we have discussed it over and over on this website?
See this post for the details, here is a summary:

Note Obama saying, "the war on terrorism started in Afghanistan and it needs to end there." and also note his saying (in the first debate as he pounded on the podium) that he will end the war in Iraq (precipitously, using his timetable over conditions on the ground, as Biden reminded on the timetable repeatedly in the second debate.) These statements are playing to a desperate need by the Liberal dovish base to believe that Afghanistan was the beginning of the Global War On Terror and their naive idea that Obama will be able to end the war completely.

But the megapolitical factors listed above prove.. we are in this conflict for the long haul and the terrorists are not based in any one location - Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else. This means these foolish doves are just asking to be lied to because they want a fantasy of peace.. but there is no peace which Obama or anyone else can obtain or give to the world. If Obama were to gain the Whitehouse, he could end a battle by calling for a defeat/forfeiture in Iraq or following peacenik policies in Afghanistan, but he would not be able to bring about world peace, as he seems to promise. Those who believe he CAN, are merely deceived or deceiving themselves.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137623

Will what follows a forfeiture and surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan and retreat in those two lands be followed by a complete repudiation of the War on Terror, withdrawl from it and peacenik capitulation in that larger war, as well? The enemy seems to think so, and we should be prepared for the consequences...

7) "Testing" by America's enemies of US interests worldwide, international crisis - due to his weak stance militarily. See, "Was Biden talking about Obama’s plan for unilateral disarmament?" where Obama pledges unilateral disarmament on several fronts, as evidence supporting Biden’s hypothesis in this youtube:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqhoiK8-Ww
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#138049

9) Abandon Israel, move against its interests to "help" and be friendly to the Hamas and other terrorists interests. As Biden said in the VP debate, they won't listen to the American arm of the Israeli government anymore.. and you can bet they will sit down and negotiate with and embrace various terrorist groups without precondition while abandoning Israel to her enemies.

Obama's Muslim Outreach Staff Yet Again Shows Terrorism Leanings, Stark Anti Semitism
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137833

Israelis dispute pro-Obama video
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137677

Video: Former Obama adviser on invading Israel
SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5XxXm8wPE

It’s not just obama’s advisors (Power and Brzezinski et al) who are anti-israel; it’s his entire network of close friends over the last two decades - they’re all antisemites and antizionists. Wright, khalidi, sayeed, rezko, etc. The people obama associated with when no one was looking tells us more than anything else about who he really is and how he would govern.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137657

Biden Now Actively Channeling Rabid Anti-Israel Partisans, Adopting Their Barely-Veiled Anti-Israel Euphemisms

One VP candidate talks to AIPAC and declares herself proud to support the US-Israel alliance. The other VP candidate goes out of his way to attack AIPAC - an organization, if nothing else, that's devoted to supporting the US-Israel alliance. All things being equal, doesn't it seem like the first one is objectively more in favor of the US-Israel alliance than the second one? To the extent that she's not, you know, attacking it?

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137651

10) Bring in the "Fairness Doctrine" to muzzle dissent. Curtailing of freedom of speech on the internet, likely in the name of stopping "racists" from speaking, as well as other voices of dissent (Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc.)
QUOTE:

Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can't abide having citizens hear contrary views. You can expect the "fairness doctrine" to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137826

DEMS GET SET TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/dems_get_set_to_muzzle_the_right_134399.htm

FCC Commissioner Warns Fairness Doctrine Might Involve Control of Web
SEE: http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=e4nzprDknz
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2008/08/13/fcc-commissioner-warns-fairness-doctrine-might-involve-control-web

11) Systemic Racism and discrimination against whites/Jews/Christians and patriotic Americans (all those who were sneeringly referred to as those who "cling to God and guns.") See all those who would call such posts as this one "racist" for merely bringing up the issues and what Obama has documentably said.

12) Abridgement and curtailing of the right to bear arms in keeping with his record on this.

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKEhbMIQucU

13) A new "Hitler Youth" (a force he says will be larger than the US military) which owes its existence to state largesse and funding of their higher "education" which must prominently include Alsinky/sensitivity training with the institution of new stated "learning objectives" for radical views mandated in them, such as Obama instituted previously with Ayers in his Woods foundation. As I stated before:

In the Presidential debates, Obama said he would give 4,000 dollars to each person seeking a higher education each year. In return, the Federal Government would require them, not to pay back the loan, BUT - to join his "civilian community services group" - the same group which he said earlier would be larger than the military (which he vows to dismantle, see Point 7, above.) This is a new "Hitler Youth", and you can bet Alsinky brainwashing would become part of that mix, too. Anytime someone says, "I am from the Federal Government, and I am here to help you." There is time to take stock of what that "help" means and what strings are attached. In Obama's case, it means purchasing loyalty to his views and ideals by "serving" in a brainwashing "youth" group. Perhaps Ayers and his radical "educator" friends would then be given the funding for "educating" these groups into their radical ideology, as was done before with the millions Obama and Ayers gave away to such "educational" radical groups in the past. Those ones promoted both Black Power reeducation camps and Socialist/Communist ones... perhaps these students of tomorrow will not be allowed to attend university and access the funding necessary to attain to a "higher" education without such attendance and "education" in these government sponsored (and mandated to receive federal money) camps?

14) Radical teaching implemented at all levels of schools as achieved in Obama's previous Woods Foundation - promotion of radical racist hatred and socialist ideals (class warfare, welfare redistributionism) from the pulpit of public educational institutions. Mandatory attendance at these institutions, the removal of alternative courses of education to "promote tolerance."

15) The unilateral disarmament of the US which leaves her open to her enemies (point 7), followed by nuclear attack on US soil by terrorists working from WITHIN the US (no surveillance, such as the Patriot Act, etc).

That's about all I can think of... off hand.
Feel free to add any you may think of which I missed.
Fred Thompson came up with a few I missed, eloquently stated.
Do watch his video..

Sara.

-- October 24, 2008 2:08 PM


Sara wrote:

Here is the one by Fred Thompson I thought was great.

===

Video: Fred Thompson warns of Obama presidency
October 24, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The RNC has a new campaign video today, and it’s not one that will fit into a 30-second spot. Fred Thompson talks for over twelve minutes about what a Barack Obama presidency would mean for America and the world. They’re talking hope and change, all right, but what exactly would that mean?

SEE: http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=e46UkUDkDk

James Pethokoukis made similar points this morning in US News (emphases in the original):

1) I find it hard to believe that fears about a deep recession are suddenly dawning upon investors and thus are solely responsible for kneecapping the market. I’ve been hearing such dire forecasts for weeks from top Wall Street economists, and I really think they’re already baked into the cake. (And credit markets actually look like they are finally picking up a bit—a plus for stocks.) So with that perception locked in, maybe the future political landscape is finally playing a greater role in the minds of investors, especially with polls showing a possible landslide Obama win and big Democratic congressional majorities. Is it really more plausible to suggest no effect whatsoever from a possible once-a-generation, political sea change, especially one that moves away from the winning economic formula of the past 25 years ? Not even a smidgen of worry? C’mon, now.

2) Obama wants to raise capital gains taxes on a good chunk of the money currently in the market. Nearly 80 percent of total stock holdings are held by people who would be subjected to higher investment taxes. Not only does that hurt their future after-tax returns, but it also undercuts the future productivity of the economy, thus crimping the future stream of earnings generated by corporate America. So the whole stock market will suffer from a sort of collective tax punishment. Hey, even potential Obama [T]reasury secretary Jamie Dimon thinks raising taxes right now is a goofy idea. …

5) Then there’s the Great Experiment of 2009. In 1980, anxious Americans voted for lower taxes and smaller government as the solution to the nation’s economic ills. Would the opposite prescription also have led to a 25-year economic boom? With Obamanomics, voters may be about to play a fascinating game of “what if.” Except it’s for real. When Goldman Sachs ran a sophisticated economic simulation of the effect of a total repeal of the Bush tax cuts, the computer predicted a 3 percentage-point drop in GDP. Maybe investors fear that with perhaps a trillion-dollar budget gap ahead, revenue-hungry Dems will raise taxes further than Team Obama is suggesting—right into the teeth of a weak economy. What if, indeed.

==end quote===

Thompson lays out all of the potential economic side effects of allowing hard-Left ideologues to dictate market policies, and taxes are just the beginning of it. They mean to reverse course from the 1980 starting point and return us to the policies that brought us the economic decline of the 1960s and 1970s. It may not quite be Herbert Hoover jacking taxes up in 1932, but it will have a similar effect, and in the end we’ll be left debating the scale of the disaster, not whether it happened.

We do not need “change” that takes us back to stagflation or a depression. We need to make capital work, which requires a lowering of risk and an easing of burdens, not a multiplication of both. Democrats seem determined to turn a harsh correction after a bubble into a global economic crash, and Barack Obama wants to lead the way to it.

Be sure to watch the whole video. It’s well worth it, and has the added bonus of seeing Fred! getting into the game.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/24/video-fred-thompson-warns-of-obama-presidency/

-- October 24, 2008 2:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

My best to you.
Godspeed.

Sara.

-- October 24, 2008 4:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Iranian Meddling in Iraq an Ominous Threat
Published: October 24, 2008
By DAVID DREW

As the United States and Iraq struggle to reach a firm agreement over the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq beyond 2011, there are signs that the Iranian regime is working in the shadows to pave the way for a complete U.S. withdrawal and Iranian domination of this fledgling democracy.

Since the 2003 U.S.-led war on Iraq, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Qods Force has been steadily fueling the insurgency by providing arms, funds, and ideological and military training to thousands of young Iraqi Shiites angry with the U.S. presence on their soil.

In recent months, the ayatollahs in Iran have been paying special attention to the situation of some 4,000 of their opponents in Iraq's Diyala province.

The People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (PMOI), the main group within the democratic coalition working to replace the current theocracy, has been instrumental in mobilizing Iraqi Shiites and Sunnis to recognize the Tehran regime as the main threat to the future of their country. Most of the 95,000 Sunnis who joined the Sons of Iraq movement and are currently providing security to their fellow citizens, pledged allegiance to the establishment of a free and democratic unified Iraq only after being convinced by the PMOI that Tehran – not the United States – is their strategic enemy.

As a Shiite group espousing secularism, the PMOI has managed to win over the hearts and minds of Iraqi Shiites who otherwise risked becoming pawns in Tehran's strategic conflict with the United States. Some 3 million Shiites endorsed the PMOI's accomplishments in a petition in June which was made public at the group's main base Camp Ashraf in Diyala. The petition rattled the regime in Tehran, coming on the back of a June 2006 declaration by 5.2 million Iraqis in support of the PMOI's presence in Iraq.

In response, Iran's unelected Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has put immense pressure on the administration of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to expel the PMOI, and on June 17 the Iraqi government ordered the United States to hand over protection of Camp Ashraf so that it could expel all PMOI members from Iraq.

This directive violates the Geneva Conventions and the "Principle of Non-Refoulement."

PMOI members have resided in Diyala for over 20 years, and since 2004 the U.S. military determined that they were all "protected persons" under the Fourth Geneva Convention. This determination was made after extensive screening of all PMOI personnel by seven different U.S. agencies including the FBI and State Department. The Geneva Conventions prevent the extradition or forced displacement of protected persons.

Regrettably there are reports that the U.S. authorities in Iraq have agreed in principle to hand over security of Ashraf to Iraqi forces despite the Iraqi government's June 17 announcement. Such a handover would itself violate the "Principle of Non-Refoulement," which is enshrined in international law and international humanitarian law. It would also send all the wrong signals to Tehran which would interpret it as a further sign of U.S. impotence in countering its nefarious outlaw activities in Iraq. Both democratic-minded Sunnis and Shiites would see the handover of Ashraf to the regime's proxies as a sign of U.S. abandonment of its promises of creating a stable and democratic Iraq in which law and order is observed.

The United Nations has condemned Iran on no less than 54 occasions for flagrant human rights abuses, which include the execution of over 120,000 PMOI sympathizers. Handing over the 4,000 brave men and women of Ashraf to the Iraqi administration as Tehran desires is tantamount to sending them to their slaughter – a stain that no U.S. administration should tolerate on its record.

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon should now compel the George W. Bush administration not to succumb to Tehran's unlawful demand.

-- David Drew is a Member of Parliament in the United Kingdom from the Labour and Cooperative Party.

http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/10/24/iranian_meddling_in_iraq_an_ominous_threat/8951/

-- October 24, 2008 4:14 PM


Sara wrote:

Today's Headline:

Stocks fall on belief global recession is at hand

What on earth could give them that impression, do you think?
Maybe the spectre of an Obama Presidency?
The Left's "Hope of the World" (Obama).. is the death knell of capitalism and prosperity.
QUOTE:

One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting (this, below):

Investors' Real Fear: A Socialist Tsunami - By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY:
The Crash: "Why has the market dropped so much?" everyone asks.

What is it about the specter of our first socialist president and the end of capitalism as we know it that they don't understand?

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#137825

===

Stocks fall on belief global recession is at hand
By TIM PARADIS, AP Business Writer
Oct 24, 2008

Reuters – NEW YORK – Wall Street has ended the week with another sharp loss, joining stock markets around the world that fell on the growing belief that a punishing economic recession is at hand.

It was a dramatic day on the Street, with the Dow Jones industrials falling more than 500 points soon after trading began, and, following the pattern of recent sessions, recovering ground only to fall sharply again. The blue chips ended the day down 312 points at the 8,378 level, while all the major indexes fell more than 3 percent.

Grim news from big global companies including Sony and Daimler, coming after disappointing outlooks from some big U.S. corporations, has investors believing there will be a long and deep global recession. The selling also came from hedge funds that had to unwind positions to pay back debts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_bi_st_ma_re/wall_street;_ylt=As392HgmFEKzbJBdFqYmWJwDW7oF

No mention of fear of Obama's socialism as stoking these fears in the MSM press news..
Amazing, isn't it?

Sara.

-- October 24, 2008 4:39 PM


Sara wrote:

I was reading today that equal percentages of Obama and John McCain supporters have early voted:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111430/Early-Voting-Now-11-Could-Reach-30.aspx
Also, the IBD/TIPP tracking poll today shows Obama at 45.8 and McCain at 42.3:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309726105567795

On polls I loved this comment on the below youtube from Rush:

On polls and pessimism, Rush is dead on target. Those of us who watched the Star Tribune’s MinnPoll noticed this same dynamic every race. It would run heavily towards the Democrats until the last two iterations, when suddenly the race “tightened”. That’s why the Times and CBS (and others) publish polls with ridiculous gaps of 14 and 16 points in party identification — because most people won’t check the samples or the methodology. They want to create a story line that generates pessimism in Republicans and depress turnout, which then makes the polls a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Without exception, polls “tighten” in the final days of an election. Is that a true indication of voter loyalty transitioning — or just an attempt by pollsters to get their last polls close enough to claim better accuracy afterwards?

===

Video: Rush on polling
Polling to Get a Result
October 24, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Rush Limbaugh spoke to the Fox & Friends hosts this morning to discuss polling and the state of the race. Rush argues that pollsters want to shape opinion rather than measuring it, especially media-sponsored polls. Why? To produce a steady drumbeat of pessimism for Republicans:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxnTatCsUQo

Transcript via TV Eyes:
QUOTE:

STEVE DOOCY: let’s ask rush limbaugh. he’s out there somewhere in t.v. land.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: in the sunny climate of florida, good to be with you.

KILMEADE: congratulations on the 20 years a lot of people are saying the distance senator mccain is from senator obama is the same thing al gore was from governor bush at the time. do you see a lot of similarities there?

LIMBAUGH: i heard you talking about the polls just a minute ago with chris wallace. you know me. i have a more cynical view of people than the drive-by media. the drive-by media do these polls and whether it is a presidential poll or an opinion of the american people on anything, we all know these polls are used to shape opinion, not reflect it, but now we’re getting to the point where in all these pollsters have their credibility to be concerned about and they want to be right at the end of the day, and i think that’s why with a couple of exceptions you’re seeing a lot of polls tighten now, because the race is tight. it’s not over. nationally, of course, is one thing. you do have the battleground states to be concerned about. it’s not looking bad for mccain out there. i don’t think this is anywhere near over. there is an onslaught in the media to make it seem like this has been long ago over. i think the purpose of that is to suppress and depress republicans and their vote turnout.

CARLSON: so you talk about shaping voters’ minds and that’s something we were discussing earlier, what the polls actually do, because who wants to go out and vote for a loser, right?

LIMBAUGH: precisely. it’s — the media coverage of obama in this campaign, this is the most irresponsible journalistic exhibition i have seen in my life. i’m 57 years old. they’ve always been liberal and they’ve always been biased but i have never seen them in the tank like this, and i think the purpose of that, they’re doing two things. they know there is a new media out there and there is a competition and they are trying to show themselves they can still move public opinion and get the country they want. now they’re not even hiding the bias. they’re profoundly in the tank, and the purpose is, i think, to really depress people into thinking this is over, that mccain has no prayer.

DOOCY: when you talk about shaping opinion, historically, newspapers do it on the opinion page, well, today in the pages of “”the new york times”" the old gray lady, she is endorsing barack obama, the same day a poll comes out from the times where they have got barack obama up by 13 points. we have talked to pollsters that say you can effectively drive a poll toward the answer you want, the result you want, you think “”the new york times”" is doing something like that here?

LIMBAUGH: two things about the times. it’s classic that yesterday standard & poor’s officially proclaimed “”the new york times”" as junk on the day they endorsed the messiah, the lord barack obama the most merciful. number two, why is “”the new york times”" junk? why is their advertising revenue down? why is their pages down, their circulation down? it’s because they’re no longer “”the new york times”". they are the public relations department for the public relations department of the barack obama campaign and the democratic party.

KILMEADE: if john mccain was to have two themes in the final 11 days, what would they be?

LIMBAUGH: this is about the economy right now, guys. people do not care about the ancillary things about obama. it’s sad. i wish we could make them care about wright and william ayers. i think obama is the radical in this group. i think obama moved to chicago and found those people. he didn’t arrive as a waif and these people found him. he is a radical and he has a lot of bitterness about race in this country, but this is about the economy, and the thing that really frustrates me, you guys, is this economy is directly traceable to the democrat party. if they can find a republican that is responsible for this, they would have strung him up and had him in congressional hearings for the last two months! this fannie mae and freddie mac thing is directly traceable to bill clinton and barney frank. mccain will not criticize democrats because he is afraid it will make independents mad. that’s maddening. the idea that independents get mad at partisanship on the republican side and defect to the most partisan, mean-spirited extremist democratic party in my lifetime is just absurd. if he can’t tie the democrats to this economic mass, because right now bush is being blamed for it, that means the republicans and it is a sitting duck, you guys. he could have done this a month ago, six weeks ago, but he just for some reason doesn’t want to go. he wants to go pop list and blame wall street greed, which is what obama’s doing, so big difference.

KILMEADE: rush, let’s go back to the new york times who has a big article about acorn. yeah, we told you we registered 1.3 million but that was exaggerated, closer to a half a million. it sounds like spin coming out of the new york times to explain, hey, a lot of people have been worried about voter fraud. don’t worry about it.

LIMBAUGH: of course they’re going to say don’t worry about democrat vote are fraud and they’re going to try to downplay this, but i think, look, my reaction to this is why does obama have cheat? if this is in the bag, why does he have to spend any more ad money? why does he have to go to the battleground states? if this is in the bag, why does this stuff have to happen? it is no, sir what it appears to be. there is a false reality being presented and people have got to get a grip.

DOOCY: congratulations on 20 years, rush.

LIMBAUGH: thanks, guys.

KILMEADE: rush limbaugh, thank you very much for joining us.

==end quote==

Rush nails two points solidly in this interview. First, McCain needs to abandon the Ayers line of attack right now, not because it’s somehow out of bounds, but because right now people just don’t care. He has ten days to make his message resonate, and he has to speak to voter concerns. Thankfully, that’s exactly what McCain has done, with ads on Joe the Plumber and hammering Obama on his tax-and-spend proclivities. He’s also been given a gift from Joe the Gaffemaster on national security, and both McCain and Palin have made that a strong theme in the closing days.

On polls and pessimism, Rush is dead on target. Those of us who watched the Star Tribune’s MinnPoll noticed this same dynamic every race. It would run heavily towards the Democrats until the last two iterations, when suddenly the race “tightened”. That’s why the Times and CBS (and others) publish polls with ridiculous gaps of 14 and 16 points in party identification — because most people won’t check the samples or the methodology. They want to create a story line that generates pessimism in Republicans and depress turnout, which then makes the polls a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Without exception, polls “tighten” in the final days of an election. Is that a true indication of voter loyalty transitioning — or just an attempt by pollsters to get their last polls close enough to claim better accuracy afterwards?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/24/video-rush-on-polling/

-- October 24, 2008 8:58 PM


cornishboy wrote:

with the britsh pound going down see wot,s happening with the dinar. http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=IQD&to=GBP

-- October 25, 2008 12:34 PM


Sara wrote:

I'm not sure that change has to do directly with the Dinar's value -
more likely it has to do with the financial problems in the market, cornishboy.
The Dinar seems insulated from market fluctuations, so far as I can tell.
Interesting note, nonetheless.

Sara.

-- October 25, 2008 7:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Questions..

You absolutely MUST click on the two birth certificate URLS and compare the one from 1963 to the one Obama produced for yourself.. It was suprising to me when I did.
NOTE THAT:

in recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in seven additional states demanding that Barack Obama produce an original vault copy of his birth certificate, to dispel the rumors that he is not a natural-born United States citizen. The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records.

Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager.

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Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit
Friday, October 24, 2008
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.

The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.

The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.

By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, Obama has “admitted” that he was born in Kenya, Berg stated this week in new court filings.

Berg released a long list of “admissions” he submitted to Obama’s lawyers on Sept. 15, and asked that they produce documents relating to Obama’s place of birth and citizenship.

Instead of responding, lawyers for Obama and the DNC asked the court to dismiss the case. But Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has issued no ruling in the case that would have given Obama’s lawyers more time.

“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”

“The first thing they teach you in law school,” he added, “is don’t put a complaint like this in a drawer. That’s how a nuisance case can become a problem.”

The 30-day deadline for defendants to comply with a discovery request is set forth in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures.

“It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side,” Berg said after he filed a motion on Thursday for summary judgment.

“The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. [Obama] admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.”

In a contentious case, lawyers on both sides will haggle over the production of documents, and will frequently go beyond the deadlines, several lawyers told Newsmax.

“The rules are more often complied with in the breech rather than the observance,” a senior trial attorney who has close ties to the Democrat Party, but is not involved in the current case, told Newsmax.

“Lawyers frequently do not return telephone calls or meet discovery deadlines because of sheer inadvertence. Therefore, we do not consider a failure to respond as a ‘violation,’” he said.

Allegations surrounding Obama’s place of birth have been swirling for months. Earlier this year, the Obama campaign sought to put down the rumors by making available a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, issued in 2007 by the State of Hawaii. [See the Certification of Live Birth — Click Here: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate ]

Respected conservative blogger Ed Morrissey called the Berg lawsuit a “conspiracy theory” that had been put to rest by the Obama campaign over the summer but ”has arisen like a zombie yet again to suck the credibility out of the conservative blogosphere.”

However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.

In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.”

The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health. [See the vault copy — Click Here: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg ]

In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign.

Berg has been a perennial political candidate in Pennsylvania, having run in Democrat primaries for attorney general, lieutenant governor, governor, and other offices without success. He served as deputy attorney general of the State of Pennsylvania from 1972-1980.

His credibility was tarnished by work he did for the far-left “9/11 for the Truth” campaign, which alleged in a federal lawsuit that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was caused by “controlled demolition” ordered by the president of the United States.

Nevertheless, in recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in seven additional states demanding that Barack Obama produce an original vault copy of his birth certificate, to dispel the rumors that he is not a natural-born United States citizen.

The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records.

Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state superior courts to force the states’ secretary of state, as the chief state elections officer, to require Obama to produce original birth records from Hawaii, or else decertify him as a candidate for the presidency.

Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.

Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager.

In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_birth_certificate/2008/10/24/143882.html

-- October 25, 2008 7:37 PM


Sara wrote:

How much MSM coverage do you think this will get?
And, if it was McCain supporters, how much?

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OBAMA STAFFERS PULL THEIR BOGUS OHIO BALLOTS

By JEANE MACINSTOSH
October 25, 2008

Thirteen campaign workers for Barack Obama yesterday yanked their voter registrations and ballots in Ohio after being warned by a prosecutor that temporary residents can't vote in the battleground state.

A dozen staffers - including Obama Ohio spokeswoman Olivia Alair and James Cadogan, who recently joined Team Obama - signed a form letter asking the Franklin County elections board to pull their names from the rolls.

The letter - a copy of which was obtained by palestra.net, a Fox News affiliate - came a day after prosecutor Ron O'Brien publicly urged out-of-state campaign workers for both Obama and John McCain to "examine your conscience" before the elections board beings begins opening absentee ballots today.

Earlier in the week, O'Brien spoke with lawyers for both camps and urged them to make sure their staffs met permanent-residency rules, or face possible felony charges.

Also pulling his ballot yesterday was Hofstra University grad Jake Smith, an Obama volunteer who had voted in Knox County, Ohio.

On Thursday, O'Brien cut a deal with 13 out-of-staters, including four from New York, who tossed out their already-cast ballots and admitted they didn't meet residency requirements.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10252008/news/politics/bam_staffers_pull_their_bogus_ohio_ballo_135152.htm

-- October 25, 2008 8:45 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

Sounds like a good rumor regarding the "SOFA". I couldn't find any facts to back up this rumor. Sure would be good if they all got together and signed this agreement!

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محمود عثمان : رايس قريبا في بغداد لبحث الاتفاقية الامنية Mahmoud Othman: Rice soon in Baghdad to discuss security agreement
2008-10-26 11:53:55 2008-10-26 11:53:55

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بغداد ( إيبا ).. BAGHDAD (Iba) .. قال النائب محمود عثمان عن التحالف الكردستاني هناك معلومات تشير الى ان وزيرة الخارجية الامريكية كوناليزا رايس ستصل الى بغداد قريبا لبحث الاتفاقية. MP Mahmoud Othman said the Kurdistan Alliance is information suggesting that U.S. Secretary of State Kunaliza Rice will arrive in Baghdad soon to discuss the Convention.

واشار عثمان لوكالة الصحافة المستقلة (إيبا) اليوم الاحد الى ان الاتفاقية الامنية الان في محطة مجلس الوزراء ،مبينا ان غدا سيتبلور الرأي النهائي بشأنها لترسل الى مجلس النواب. He Othman told the independent press (Iba) today, Sunday, said the agreement is now in a security cabinet, indicating that tomorrow Sitblor final opinion on them to be sent to the House of Representatives.

وبين ان الجانب العراقي طالب ببعض التعديلات ولكن الجانب الامريكي لم تجاوب مع هذه التعديلات ،موضحا انه حسب المعلومات المتوفرة فأن الجانب الامريكي يرى انه قد قدم اقصى حد من التنازلات ولا يستطيع تقديم المزيد منها. He said the Iraqi side called for some changes, but the U.S. side did not respond to these amendments, adding that according to information available, the U.S. side believes it has made maximum concessions can not make more of it.

واوضح عثمان ان نقاط الخلاف تتركز حول موضوع الحصانة ،وموضوع الولاية القضائية ،اضافة الى مواضع البريد العسكري ،والمعتقلين العراقيين لدى الامريكان،كذلك موضوع التواريخ ،حيث ان مسودة الاتفاقية تحدد منتصف 2009 موعدا لخروج القوات الامريكية من المدن ،وعام 2011 موعدا لخروجها من العراق في حالة تحسن الوضع الامني ،بينما يرغب العراقيون بعدم تحديد شروط لتنفيذ المواعيد المقررة في الاتفاقية، مضيفا بان هناك ايضا موضوع الترجمة من العربية الى الانكليزية وبالعكس ،حيث ان هناك فقرات يمكن ان تؤول بتفسيرات متعددة . Othman said the sticking points centered on the theme of immunity, and the issue of jurisdiction, in addition to mail military positions, Iraqi detainees and the Americans, the issue of dates, as the draft agreement sets the mid-2009 date for the departure of U.S. troops from cities, 2011 deadline for getting out of Iraq The status of the security situation improves, while the Iraqis want to determine the conditions for the timely implementation of the Convention, adding that there is also the subject of translation from Arabic to English and vice versa, as there are paragraphs that could devolve multiple interpretations.

وكشف عن ان وزراء الدفاع والداخلية والتخطيط والمالية ،من حيث الجانب المهني مع توقيع الاتفاقية ، لعدم وجود بديلا عنها. He disclosed that the ministers of defense, interior, planning, finance, in terms of the professional side with the signing of the Convention, there is no substitute for it.
وخلص عثمان بالقول يجب مراعاة ثلاثة امور في موضوع الاتفاقية ، الاول هو ان يكون هناك وقف عراقي موحد حولها ،على الاقل من قبل اغلب الكتل الرئيسة في البرلمان،لان الفرقة تجعل موقف المفاوض العراقي ضعيفاً. He concluded by saying Osman must be taken into account three things on the Convention, the first is that there is a unified Iraq around, at least by most of President blocs in parliament, because the team makes the position of Iraqi negotiator weak.

والثاني يجب دراسة الجوانب الايجابية والسلبية في الاتفاقية ،بينما الامر الثالث الذي يجب مراعاته هو ما هو البديل عن الاتفاقية؟. The second study to be positive and negative aspects of the Convention, while the third is to be observed is what is the alternative to the Convention?.

وطالب عثمان ان تكون الاتفاقية موضوع يوحد العراقيين لا يفرقهم ،وان يبتعد الجميع عن اطلاق الاتهامات التي تذهب الى ان من يؤيد الاتفاقية هو مع امريكا ومن يعارض هو مع ايران. Osman asked that the agreement would be the subject of uniting Iraqis, not divides them, and firing away all the charges that go to support the Convention is with America and is opposed to Iran.

يذكر ان مجلس الوزراء العراقي قد طالب بتعديل عدد من المواد في مسودة الاتفاقية قبل الموافقة عليها فيما ابدى الجانب الامريكي اعتراضه على اجراء اية تعديلات ،ورفض وزير الدفاع الامريكي روبرت جيتس طلب الحكومة العراقية بمراجعة الاتفاقية الامنية واجراء تعديلات على بعض بنودها، مؤكدا انه ذلك غير وارد ولن تقبل بإجراء تعديلات عليها .(النهاية)/14/ز/.. The Iraqi cabinet has demanded a revision in the number of articles in the draft agreement prior to approval in the U.S. side expressed its opposition to making any amendments, and rejected U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates asked the Iraqi government to review security agreement and amendments to some of its clauses, stressing that it is not Amendments will not accept it. (End) / 14 / g / ..


http://74.125.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.ipairaq.com/inner.php%3Fname%3Dpolitics%26id%3D4922&prev=/language_tools&usg=ALkJrhgFLJV-pmM2hN1gh2AYPUyLPLNlBg

-- October 26, 2008 11:08 AM


Sara wrote:

Tsalagi, that does sound like good news, but I think the Iraqis will stall on the SOFA and HCL progress until they see who is in the Whitehouse next. They will take their bearings from that.

Meanwhile..

Such problems in Iraq.. (just kidding):

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Iraq faces problem of surplus money
By AP
Sunday, October 26, 2008

Iraq's Government has an unusual money problem as much of the world grapples with a credit crunch – it can't spend its oil riches fast enough. The US is trying to change that by training Iraqi bureaucrats struggling to emerge from a centralised system in which nearly all decisions – from where to build a water treatment plant to which workers would do the job – came from the top.

Wall, the US Embassy's economics transition chief, said the Iraqis could feel the hit but predicted their surplus will protect them. "There is a cushion, but it's not going to be as large as many expected," he said last week during an interview in his office, a former kitchen in Saddam's Republican Palace.

Critics say it's time for the US to force the Iraqi Government to step up its own spending. "If you look at the capacity of the Iraqi Government, I think basically it's really the question of will, not capacity," said Lawrence J Korb, a military analyst at the liberal Centre for American Progress. "Right now they can sit back… and not make the hard choices. We do it for them."

Korb said the government has ignored a pool of experienced bureaucrats because they had belonged to Saddam's ousted Baath Party. He also noted Iraqis spend heavily on operating expenses such as government salaries instead of reconstruction. "The percentage going to current operating expenses is going up every year as opposed to making the people's lives better in the future," he said.

http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2008/10/pages/10262008_92c39c04164b4cd68eb8b2660156e3de.aspx

"If you look at the capacity of the Iraqi Government, I think basically it's really the question of will, not capacity,"

I think the SOFA and HCL, etc (other progress) has this same difficulty.
Iraq CAN do these things, it just is a question of if they are WILLING to do them.
Same with the revaluation of the Dinar.

Sara.

-- October 26, 2008 1:40 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I have read articles on other forums where some Iraqi source espouses the deletion of three zeros from the Iraqi Dinar and some participants believe this to be the CBI intended policy. In my view, the Iraqi Dinar reamins severly undervalued. I do not believe a lop is the intended policy of the CBI. As I have stated many times it does not benefit Iraq to do so. I seems more logical to allow the Dinar to free float thereby achieving its real rate. I agree with you Sara, currently Malaki, Parliment, and the CBI does not have the willingness to raise the value of the Dinar. Malaki continues to strattle the fence between Iran and the U.S. I also agree that the HCL and SOFA will be delayed until John McCain is elected President.

To find their place on the international stage and regardless of how long the Iraqi's delay they must address HCL, SOFA, and the value of their currency. Once John McCain is elected president I believe Iraq will pass both the HCL and SOFA. With these passed Iraq will see an unprecidented occurance of foreign investment. The value of the Iraqi Dinar will not be far behind.

Roger, I have not seen a post from you in quite sometime once you are available give us a visual from what you are seeing on the ground. Godspeed my friend.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 26, 2008 9:44 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Rob N, for putting all that into words. True and well spoken. I see us in a time of "wait" until after the election.. followed by a takeoff time for Iraq under McCain's leadership. The markets will stabilize and rebound then as well. Uncertainty always makes the financials weaker. Now is a great buying opportunity in the markets, as Mr. Warren Buffet said. I am off to check on the trade order I placed over the weekend to see if it is routed to the exchange for tomorrow morning or if I have to wait until just before the market opens to see its status as open.

Sara.

-- October 27, 2008 12:04 AM


Sara wrote:

If this was a Republican Congressman.. would this news be top headlines?
But it is barely mentioned in the MSM press..
Why is that?

===

ABC: Mahoney used mistress to “entice” donors
October 24, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Tim Mahoney has more problems than serial adultery, according to ABC News. The Democratic Congressman demanded that his mistress sexually entice potential donors to his campaign, and wanted her to engage in a menage a trois “for his enjoyment”:
QUOTE:

Current and former members of the staff of Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-Fla) say he has yet to come completely clean about his multiple affairs, abusive behavior and alleged ethical lapses. …

But a document obtained by ABC News reveals new allegations of threatening behavior and sexual harassment toward a female staffer, that go far beyond Mahoney’s public confession, including claims that he urged one of his mistresses to serve as a “tease” for big donors.

The former Congressional staff member, Patricia Allen, was paid $121,000 by Mahoney after she was fired and threatened to sue.

==end quote==

The information comes from a demand letter sent by Allen’s attorney in the lawsuit Allen filed against Mahoney for wrongful termination. Allen alleged that Mahoney made her attend fundraisers and demanded that she “tease c**k” to bolster donations. ABC says that “current and former staffers” say that these allegations are substantiated by recorded phone calls, presumably made by Allen.

If so, the House Ethics Committee should expel Mahoney, regardless of the election. It’s difficult to imagine a more degrading and abusive way to treat staffers than to demand sex (and threesomes) and to more or less pimp them for donations. Of course, in doing so, they will have to ask how much of this the Democratic leadership in Congress knew, and when they knew it — and that may turn this into the same kind of scandal that unseated Mark Foley, Mahoney’s predecessor, and gave Democrats the majority in Congress.

So don’t expect the Ethics Committee to do anything before the election. They’re hoping Mahoney disappears through the election before they have to answer those kinds of questions.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/24/abc-mahoney-used-mistress-to-entice-donors/

-- October 27, 2008 8:46 AM


Sara wrote:

It was correctly predicted on this board that this would get ugly with "Racism" the cry against any who dared to question Obama. Here is proof that opinion was completely on the mark (below). As you read put the shoe on the other foot.. what would be the reaction if this piece were written against BLACK people voting?

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Philly Inquirer: All Whites are Racists, 'Shouldn't be Allowed to Vote'
By Warner Todd Huston (Bio | Archive)
October 27, 2008 - 04:39 ET

Did you know that all white people are so racist that they shouldn't be allowed to vote? Did you know that people who are armed are stupid? Did you know that President Bush caused 9/11? Oh, and did you know that most of Pennsylvania is a "long dark chicken dance of the national soul"? Well, the Philadelphia Inquirer would like to school you in these "facts." And, if you disagree? Well, who cares what you think anyway? You're a gun loving, bitter racist, so who cares what you think? So proudly says PI columnist Jonathan Valania.

This is probably one of the most shocking, hate filled columns I've seen outside a KKK website, or the Communist Party Daily, for a long, long time. And that it comes from a leading national newspaper in one of our founding American cities, well, that makes it all the more outrageous. But right there in the Philly Inquirer we see it: "White people shouldn't be allowed to vote." And in case you are confused, the subhead brings it into sharper focus: "It's for the good of the country and for those who're bitter for a reason and armed because they're scared."

This unAmerican piece of elitist hectoring is brought to us in the name of "tolerance" and for the singular purpose to elect the most radically leftist candidate for president this nation has seen since Eugene Debbs and Norman Thomas.

So what is this business that whites should not be allowed to vote? One would hope that Valania was being "funny." But, no, he's as serious as a heart attack... or maybe as serious as a class attack is more to the truth.

QUOTE: As a lifelong Caucasian, I am beginning to think the time has finally come to take the right to vote away from white people, at least until we come to our senses. Seriously, I just don't think we can be trusted to exercise it responsibly anymore. (end quote)

By "come to our senses," obviously Valania means to say that if we all don't toe Obama's Marxist line, well, we just don't deserve to be allowed to vote. You see, voting isn't the result of a personal process that ends in a chosen candidate, according to Valania. It is a perfunctory action made after receiving marching orders by overlords such as he, presumably. We should simply listen to our betters, maybe someone like Valania, without all this messy business of deciding for ourselves. And if we fail to come to his same conclusion? Well, we should have our vote summarily removed by he and his cohorts.

So, how does this elitist justify his claim that all whites do not deserve the vote? Well, he begins his quest to explain it all by lying... SEVERAL times… in the same paragraph.

QUOTE: In 2000, Bush-Cheney stole the election, got us attacked, and then got us into two no-exit wars. Four years later, white people reelected them. Is not the repetition of the same behavior over and over again with the expectation of a different outcome the very definition of insanity? (It is, I looked it up.)
(end quote)

There was no "Bush stolen election" except in the fevered minds of the extremist, wacko-fringe of the far left. We have elected presidents in the same way for hundreds of years: the Electoral College. Further, 9/11 was being planned while Clinton was in office, so Bush did not "get us attacked." No one of any credible reputation can say such a thing. It is well known that bin Laden had been planning the felling of the World Trade Center for quite a while before anyone even imagined Bush would serve in the White House.

But, let's play Valania's game with that last bit. If he wants "insanity" how about his obviously insane belief in communism, a concept that is responsible for killing more humans than any other single idea in human history. It has been tried for well over 100 years and proven disastrous in lives, wars and treasure since the first time it was tried. Yet, Valania insanely still seems to believe in its tenets? Now that is insane.

Valania then goes on to knock Sarah Palin in a prosaic effort dragged right off the editorial page of any Old Media outlet. Yes, all of Sarah Palin's fans are racists. Isn't Johnny funny? Isn’t he a free thinker?

Then Valania goes on to act as if he is "just a regular guy" and not an unAmerican, elitist. You see, his grandfather was a coal miner. Surely the poor man is spinning in his grave over his grandson's anti-American attitudes, too.

Valania ends with this cryptic description of Pennsylvania.

QUOTE: I fear for what is to become of them after the campaigns leave town for the last time, and Scranton and Allentown and Carlisle go back to being the long dark chicken dance of the national soul they were before the media showed up. (end quote)

What is a "long dark chicken dance?" Your guess is as good as mine, but this guy sure thinks it's cleaver, at least.

But, after reading this dreck one can only wonder what it was all about in the end? In reality, Valania indulges in sniping, hate against his fellows, hate for Republicans, hate for Bush and company, and reveals a self-indulgent assumption that he is smarter, more tolerant than everyone he knows. But what he didn't do is give a single real, thoughtful reason to buttress his idiotic premise that all whites should be disenfranchised. All we get is off-handed quips and bland assumptions. Not a line of thoughtful analysis do we see.

If this schlock is what passes for intelligent analysis, the left really has come a long way from the days when the smartest people in the world served as the intellectual backbone for the movement. Apparently, all that is left is self-congratulatory, snarkists that are so sure that their ideas have already been "proven" that they waste no effort at intellectual justification. Yes, this lazy attempt at getting noticed is all there is left to the intellectual heft of the extreme left.

Valania is a great fit for the likes of the DailyKos, or the Democratic Underground, both places where intellectual vigor is not only not required, but is unrecognized by anyone there should it appear. And since the anti-intellectuals from those sites serve as the moving force of the left these days, one assumes that starting today Jonathan Valania will become the newest celebrity of the unhinged left.

For everyone else, though, he’ll just be a laughing stock.

Comments:

1) worst ever by middlecon

Worst opinion piece/blog ever and I think he's pretty serious about it lol

I'm sure if the word 'black' were substituted for 'white' this would be national news and the protests would start within the hour.

2) Don't get upset guys by HeavyChevy

This is just more proof that McCain must be winning if these desperate actions must be taken to stifle your vote.

I know as a non-Caucasian it's easy for me to say that but if you let them get under your skin they win, let your vote be your big stick.

3) Me thinks he might be right! by FastEd

Us'in white folks ARE scared. We see what we've WORKED for become pennies on the dollar, a government that wants to take MORE of what's left, a pres contender who wants a part of that too, and then make us ALL equal.

What this bone headed, pseudo-journalist doesn't realize, (nor the rest of the new Department of Information), is the fact that when wealth goes to those who haven't earned it, there is no more wealth, nor the capacity or desire to create wealth. Therefore, when all are equal(?), everyone's standard of living is lowered, and those who were the poorest, become poorer. THEN, there is the backlash - any NOBODY is talking about that. Who would be blamed for the loss of jobs, the drop in productivity, etc? The usual suspects, but the truth would be those who supported this crazy redistribution - and the finger would point to the crazy folks on the left, the pseudo media, and most importantly, the socialistic democrats who only want power (and use it without responsibility for their actions).

4) Naked Racism! by Chasvs

At least we now get to see the REAL face of the Leftist's in the Country. They are the MOST RACIST and Hateful people in the world.

Now we know who they are and what they look like.

Ugly vile filth, the traits of Obama's best friends.

STOP OBAMA NOW!

5) Bridging the Racial Divide by Kirk Turner

It is clear by now that Obama, far from bridging the racial divide as promised, has brought about a polarization of the races rarely seen. This divisive election--an election by the way in which all honest disagreement with Obama is characterized by his minions as racist, has the potential to tear this country apart. Thinking people DEEPLY resent being characterized as such.

Obama's candidacy has brought out the racial loons who had been relugated to the fringes for thirty years as well they should. For a year now, we have seen a virtual parade of haters ranging from Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers to Jonathan Valania. The fact that Obama brings out these crazies should give us all pause. We are being racially bullied and guilt tripped into voting for a guy we don't want.

If Americans are such wussies that they will put a guy like Obama in the White House because they don't want to be called names, they deserve him and all his buddies asserting not only hate but policies based on hate for the next eight years.

In the past, it has been OK not to vote for a tax-and-spend liberal if you were conservative. Now, this honest ideological disagreement is glossed over by Obama's minions in the media (See Alter above) and called racist. It is a tactic of the left so fundamentally dishonest as to be outright propaganda.

6) Black Voters by cayenne523

Since 95% of black voters are voting for Obama would it not be resonable not to allow them to vote because they are obviously voting for skin color and not about issues?

7) Just the facts, man!!! by flyingmonkey

Armed because they're scared?

Let's see, blacks, 12% of the population, commit 55% of the murders in this country. Blacks commit crimes against whites twice as often as whites do against blacks. I have black friends who wouldn't go into certain black neighborhoods in Kansas City while I know of no white neighborhoods that I, or they, couldn't walk through. Scared? How about just playing the odds.

Nobody is holding the black population here in the U.S. If they believe it's such a lousy place to live, then go. It's a big world.

This columnist talks like somebody with a paper a-hole. I have never seen such self flagellation in the media. Do they really believe this tripe?

In one of his comedy routines, the late George Carlin asked the question, "If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes?" Now I ask a similar question. If the American model is so unfair to black Americans, then why do so many succeed? And why do so many immigrants, who are totally unfamiliar with the system, thrive?

According to the teachings of Afro-Centrism, they were the first civilization yet remain one of the most culturally unsophisticated. And remember, this is before white people were on the scene.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/27/philly-inquirer-all-whites-are-racists-shouldnt-be-allowed-vote

-- October 27, 2008 10:09 AM


Sara wrote:

Quote from last article:

By "come to our senses," obviously Valania means to say that if we all don't toe Obama's Marxist line, well, we just don't deserve to be allowed to vote.

See the youtube below.

===

Saturday Funnies: Glenn Beck Presents Obama's National Anthem
By Noel Sheppard
October 25, 2008

It's Saturday night, which means that our good friends at NBC are getting ready to skewer John McCain and Sarah Palin. As such, here's a little balance from our friend Glenn Beck (h/t NBer GregE):

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4

Hehehehehe.

Comments:

1) Obamajama by silentsmith

It isn't even funny because it is so true. Get ready for the end of private ownership. No joke...get ready.

2) THe comrade vanishes.... by BD

It is so telling because indeed Obama HAS been running a cult of personality campaign.

Hell, yesterday Biden gets a couple of the type of questions McCain Palin have been getting for months and the Obamaniacs get unglued. Pure cult of personality.

I wonder how long it will be before key campaign personalities begin being airbrushed out of photographs with Barry ala "The Comrade Vanishes"?

3) Thanks GregE & Noel...plus by bigtimer

Thanks GregE & Noel...plus of course Beck...

Unfortunately I fear this very thing being presented, heck it already has...I pray everyone votes.

4) national athem by cristanti

telli this is awesome!!!!!!!why can't this be shown on FOX NEWS?????????????? We need all we can get before election day, obama has all the money and is showing ads ten to one on MCCAIN, and then has that 30 min ad he is going to do that oprah helped him with, this is not fair at all. MCCAIN needs help from all the radio shows, and I hear Sean Hannity is going to go out and campaign with him, this song that GLEN BECK did is what scares me alot, obama is like the anti CHRIST, EVERYONE GO OUT AND VOTE, THE MEDIA WANT US TO THINK IT IS OVER, ALL THESE POLLS ARE DEMOCRATS DOUBLE OVER REPUBLICANS AND FAVOR obama, that is what the press and media are doing , they are trying hard to suppress the vote, they want us to not vote at all and think its over, DO NOT BELEIVE THIS, BUSH ON ELECTION DAY HAD ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN OFF ALL THAT DAY, THEY WERE SAYING THE EXIT POLLS HAD KERRY WON ALREADY, THEY WERE ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!

5) Too funny!!!!! by BEGRUNT

How appropriate the tune is the "international" LOL!!

6) LOL-That was a little too by R D Helm

LOL-That was a little too real for me.

While I know it was made in jest, I don't think the concept it portrays is as far-fetched as many might think.

-And they could not have picked a better tune if they had tried. :-)

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS RIGHT !!

7) I wasn't really a Glenn Beck fan before...... by Texndoc

......but I am now. And now very happy he will be a ray of light on Fox News. Boot Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes out the door on your way in. I've had it to here with their whiny defeatism.

8) As someone from a family that suffered ... by Jayke

As someone from a family that suffered at the hands of communism. This is not funny. If Americans think that this can't happen here they may be in for a rude awakening. If Obama is elected he will be inaguarated with a bible under one foot and the constitution under the other. The American flag will be under his friend Ayer's feet. Mark my words.

9) Welcome To Fox, Glenn! by Asian Con

Welcome To Fox, Glenn!

BTW, that video reminds me of Rocky 4. When Rocky was about to fight Drago. They played the Soviet national anthem except Drago's face was on the billboard.

"What do Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden have in common? They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon." - Rush Limbaugh

First, kill all the lawyers. -Wlm Shakespear

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/25/saturday-funnies-glenn-beck-presents-obamas-national-anthem

-- October 27, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's Cabinet sends hydrocarbon law to parliament

Iraq's long-stalled oil and gas law has finally been sent by the Cabinet to parliament for discussion, a lawmaker said on Sunday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 27, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

HIEC: Plans for elections going on course 27/10/2008 15:01:00

Baghdad (NINA)– The High Independent Electoral Commission has declared that its plan for conducting elections is going on course at all provinces.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 27, 2008 10:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kuwait keen on strengthening ties with Iraq -- foreign Undersecretary

Politics 10/27/2008 1:04:00 PM


Foreign Undersecretary Khalid Al-Jarallah
By Khalid Al-Enizi

KUWAIT, Oct 27 (KUNA) -- Foreign Undersecretary Khalid Al-Jarallah stressed Monday that his country is keen on strengthening its relations with Iraq.
Al-Jarallah told KUNA that the submission of the credentials of Kuwaiti Ambassador Ali Al-Mo'min to the Iraqi authorities is evidence that Kuwait is keen on that development.
He said Kuwait was keen on opening its embassy in Iraq for a long time, but the security situation there was not encouraging. He added that when the situation improved, Kuwait immediately sent its ambassador to Iraq.
He also expressed his hope to see an Iraqi ambassador in Kuwait soon, wishing Baghdad stability and prosperity.
Al-Jarallah said the timing for the visit of His Highness the Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser Al-Mohammad Al-Sabah to Iraq is yet to be decided.
However, he stressed that Kuwait is contacting Iraq regarding the preparations.
On the reports that Kuwaiti citizen Hussein Al-Fethala was arrested in Iraq, Al-Jarallah said that Kuwait contacted concerned authorities in Iran, Iraq, US, Saudi Arabia, and all neighboring countries on the issue.
He added that no reply was received yet from the Iraqi authorities, whether confirming or denying the national's presence in Iraq.
Meanwhile, the Foreign Undersecretary said that the shuffle of Kuwaiti diplomats abroad is "routine" and that ambassadors will be shuffled next December.
He said the Civil Service Commission is studying increasing the salaries and bonuses of diplomatic staff and is expected to be done with it soon.(end) ka.aa.ris KUNA 271304 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 27, 2008 10:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kuwait-Iraq diplomacy blooms again, 17 years after war
10/23/2008


Ambassador Ali Mumin remembers the invasion and Persian Gulf War well, but he blames Saddam Hussein, not the Iraqi people.
By Ned Parker and Saif Rasheed
October 23, 2008
Reporting from Baghdad -- Ambassador Ali Mumin dug into his Iraqi-style meat kebab in a small restaurant at the Rashid Hotel in Baghdad's high-security Green Zone. He let out a laugh, nonchalant about his task: reopening Kuwait's embassy in Iraq, 18 years after Saddam Hussein's army invaded his oil-rich emirate.

The retired general, who served with Kuwaiti forces alongside the Americans in the 1991 Persian Gulf War that followed the invasion, was ensconced Wednesday at the hotel, once used by the elite of Hussein's regime. And he is glad to be here.


Partway through his first day as Kuwaiti ambassador, Mumin had already presented his credentials to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. Then he settled in at the Rashid, dressed in traditional white robes with a brown overcoat and a starchy tribal headdress, a gold bracelet jangling on his wrist.

Mumin, accompanied by bodyguards, joked with friends and celebrated this milestone in the two nations' sometimes bitter history.

The diplomat was tapped for this job more than two years ago, but the time wasn't right, he said.


"Now that the Iraq government has succeeded in the political and security areas, there is enough justification for Kuwait to be represented in Baghdad instead of waiting any longer," he said between sips of tea. "We can't abandon our brothers. We aim to reach them and we aim to establish a long-lasting relationship."

Kuwait isn't the only Arab country to upgrade its ties with Iraq. Since 2003, the primarily Sunni Muslim Arab world has viewed Iraq with suspicion, both for the country's occupation by U.S. forces and for its new Shiite power brokers, many of whom have close ties to regional rival Iran. An Egyptian diplomat posted to Baghdad was kidnapped and slain by a militant Sunni group in 2005.

Now, motivated by a wish for better ties and an unwillingness to cede ground to Iran, Arab states have started to return. This month, Bahrain, Jordan and Syria posted ambassadors to Baghdad; the United Arab Emirates did the same last month.

"The Iraqi government has made a good effort to reach the Arabs and prove to them they really consider themselves members of the Arab League and Arab nation," Mumin said.

The retired general has bad memories of Hussein. He doesn't even like to say the name. He remembers watching the 1990 invasion of Kuwait unfold on television from the North African city of Tunis, where he was posted. There he saw then-Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz denounce the government of Kuwait, which Hussein considered a renegade province of Iraq.

Then there were the days in Saudi Arabia, where the Kuwaiti military gathered and hoped the U.S. troop buildup on the desert peninsula would lead to a ground offensive to liberate his country. He smiled Wednesday as he remembered the American special forces informing them they needed men for urban fighting -- a sure sign the U.S. would enter Kuwait.

American troops did so on Feb. 24, 1991, driving out the Iraqis in four days.

Long ago, Mumin made his peace with the past. He emphasizes that he blames Hussein and not the Iraqi people for the invasion. He calls the Iraqis his brothers and tells a story he heard of an Iraqi soldier who stopped a Kuwaiti at a checkpoint during the occupation of Kuwait and found guns in his trunk. The Iraqi soldier let the man go, Mumin said, telling him he was brave and fighting for his country.

Mumin hasn't forgotten war, but he knows the Iraqis have suffered. "There was something imposed on our two nations, and thank God this is behind us now."

Since 2003, Mumin has visited Iraq as Kuwait's point man for humanitarian issues concerning his neighbor.

He has great hopes and knows there are tough matters to tackle, including Iraq's wish for Kuwait to forgive billions of dollars of debt owed from the Hussein era, and the reparations Iraq still pays over the 1990 invasion.

Mindful of Iraq's dangers, Mumin has no immediate plans to travel beyond the fortified Green Zone. He is not sure what the emirate plans to do with its old embassy, which has been abandoned since 1990. "We'll creep, then walk, then run," he joked, marveling at his presence in a Baghdad hotel.
(www.safedinar.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 27, 2008 10:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Iraq oil law goes to parliament
News wires

Iraq's long-delayed oil and gas law has finally been sent by the Cabinet to parliament for discussion, a lawmaker said.

The move sets the stage for a new public debate over how to manage the country's vast oil wealth, which Iraq needs to finance the reconstruction of the country, even as world oil prices have been falling.

Abdul-Hadi al-Hassani, the deputy chairman of the parliamentary committee on oil, gas and natural resources, told the Associated Press the panel is reviewing the bill to prepare it for the full legislature.

"We started working on it today," al-Hassani told AP in a phone interview Sunday. He did not say when it will be put to the floor.

Iraq's Cabinet endorsed the bill in February 2007 but disputes later emerged between the Kurds and central government, mainly over who has the final say in managing oil and gas fields.

Since then, the measure has gone through four versions.

Al-Hassani said the Cabinet has agreed to work with the first version since the later ones sparked even more differences.

Among other things, the law would set the rules for foreign investment in Iraq's oil industry and determine how oil revenues will be shared among Shi'ites, Sunnis and Kurds.

It would also call for establishing a federal council for oil and gas to study plans to develop the oil industry infrastructure and review the contracts.

The law has four appendixes that would divide Iraq's oil fields into four categories according to their level of development and who will manage them.

The first appendix lists 27 fields mainly in s Basra and Maysan, in the south, which are already producing oil but need further development. The second category covers the 25 fields that are near to producing.

The Iraq National Oil Company, which had been suspended under Saddam Hussein and would be revived by the law, would manage these two categories and negotiate development deals for them with foreign companies.

Twenty-six fields in the provinces of Muthanna, Anbar, Sulaimaniyah, Tamim, Najaf and others fall into the third category of difficult and expensive development and are not close to producing.

The oil ministry will negotiate and sign preliminary contracts with foreign companies over these fields - except those that are in the northern semi-autonomous Kurdish area and will be controlled by the Kurds, AP said.

The fourth appendix names 65 blocks yet to be explored, including 40 in Sunni Anbar province, west of Baghdad. The Kurdish regional government will control blocks within its territories while Baghdad will control the rest.

Finally, all contracts of the third and fourth categories need to be discussed and approved by the federal oil and gas council, a matter that Kurds oppose.

Since the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, the Kurds have signed more than 20 production-sharing contracts with handful of international companies.

Those contracts are considered illegal by the Iraqi Oil Ministry, which has threatened to exclude and blacklist companies that sign deals with the Kurds.

The Kurds maintain they are legal.

"These contracts must be reviewed and then amended, if needed, to bring them in line with the proposed law," said al-Hassani, adding that discussions between the Kurds and central government will continue despite sending the bill to parliament.

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article165446.ece

-- October 27, 2008 12:09 PM


Sara wrote:

IRAN appears to believe that no matter who takes office next, they will be attacked militarily by the US. I wonder what Obama's peacenik base would say to that viewpoint - Play up the fact of their choice being a strong military leader who would lead the country into war and open up a new front on the GWOT? Or admit he is too weak-kneed and ineffective a dove as a Commander-in-Chief to possibly be coerced into doing the bidding of the hawk President Bush?

===

Iranian official calls for attack on UK
By JONNY PAUL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT IN LONDON
Oct 25, 2008

Fearing a US strike on Iran during President George W. Bush's last months in office, a senior Iranian official has suggested the Islamic regime should target London to deter such an attack.

In an article on the Iranian Web site Aftab last week - translated by the Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute - the head of the Europe and US Department in the Iranian Foreign Ministry, Wahid Karimi, said that an attack on London would deter the US from attacking Teheran.

"The most appropriate means of deterrence that Iran has, in addition to a retaliatory operation in the [Gulf] region, is to take action against London," Karimi said.

In the article, the Iranian official said that an attack might also stem from the fact that presidents in their second terms are "usually adventuresome."

Citing some examples he said: "US presidents are usually adventuresome in their second terms... [Richard] Nixon, disgraced by the Watergate scandal; [Ronald] Reagan, with the 'Irangate' adventure; [and Bill] Clinton, with Monica Lewinsky - and perhaps George Bush, the sitting president, will create a scandal connected to Iran's legitimate nuclear activity so as not to be left behind."

He speculated that a US attack on Iran could come between next month's presidential election and when the new president enters office in January 2009.

"In the worst-case scenario, George Bush may perhaps persuade the president-elect to carry out an ill-conceived operation against Iran, prior to January 20, 2009 - that is, before the regime is handed over and he ends his presence in the White House. The next president of the US will have to deal with the consequences," he warned.

Admitting that previous Iranian warnings to paralyze "the Jerusalem-occupying regime" to deter "American adventurism" has not worked, Karimi said that "the most appropriate means of deterrence" for Iran would be to attack London.

"If we agree that such a scenario - with America, England and Israel at its center - is conceivable, then it would seem that the most appropriate means of deterrence that Iran has, in addition to a retaliatory operation in the [Gulf] region, is to take action against London. Experience proves that the [part played] by politicians in Tel Aviv and in London, in the [fanning of the] flames against Iran and in the urging of America to strike Iran, is no less than [the part played] by Bush," he said.

During a visit to Bahrain last Wednesday, the chairman of the Iranian parliament, Ali Larijani, regarded by some as a moderate, rejected claims that his country's support of militants fighting US forces in Iraq could be considered support for terrorism.

"They are freedom fighters fighting to defend their country and independence, that is not terrorism," he said.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017624184&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

-- October 27, 2008 12:23 PM


cornishboy wrote:

hi all just been looking at the Currency Conversion noiced the numbers up the side have changed on the one day movement conpered to the five day movement any ideas.? http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?from=IQD&to=GBP&amt=1&t=1d

-- October 27, 2008 12:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Interesting, worth watching, short:

VIDEO: Bill Ayers' Weathermen planned re-education, genocide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJn5b8_weUY

-- October 27, 2008 3:56 PM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Official: Syrian Strike Killed Al Qaeda Target
Monday, October 27, 2008

A U.S. strike on a network of foreign fighters in Syria killed its main target — an Al Qaeda coordinator who was wanted for sending foreign fighters, weapons and cash into Iraq, a U.S. official told FOX News.

Killed in Sunday's attack by Special Operations Forces was Abu Ghadiyain, Al Qaeda's senior coordinator operating in Syria who was closely associated with the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

The assault, which took place about 4-5 miles inside Syria, came just days after the commander of U.S. forces in western Iraq said American troops were redoubling efforts to secure the border, which he called an "uncontrolled" gateway for fighters entering Iraq.

Ninety percent of foreign fighters enter Iraq through Syria, according to U.S. intelligence estimates, bringing cash to Al Qaeda in Iraq's chief. They also are deadly — trained in bomb-making and willing to sacrifice themselves in suicide attacks.

A senior U.S. military intelligence official said that in July only about 20 foreign fighters were entering the country each month, down 50 percent from six months earlier, and just a fifth of the estimated 100 foreign fighters who were infiltrating Iraq a year ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444199,00.html

-- October 27, 2008 4:46 PM


Sara wrote:

What on earth are people afraid of with an Obama Presidency?

Obama as President:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bVTE0qEf0o&NR=1

-- October 27, 2008 5:04 PM


Sara wrote:

Now, this one is likely to get a lot of MSM coverage...
And I bet you, unlike the articles in the media on terrorist plots..
they won't say it was just a rifle, a shotgun, and three pistols, and minimize it like those threats are tiny (and laughable).
They also won't say the INTENT to rob a gun store is not proof they could have done it.
They will play it like.. it was a done deal and these people were dying in the streets, I bet.
But again, the Lord said Obama won't be assassinated (before the election), as I mentioned before, so this just confirms what I heard all along.
He also won't be elected.

===

ATF busts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama, murder blacks
October 27, 2008
by Allahpundit

Just a few details so far, but it sounds like some sort of Nazi Columbine fantasy with assassination as the capper. Not the first time white supremacists have had their guns out for Obama, although the immediate concern here was obviously the school:
QUOTE:

In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

“They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama,” Cavanaugh said. “They didn’t believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying.”

==end quote==

They had a rifle, a shotgun, and three pistols and were planning to break into a gun store to grab more. Stand by for updates as local media jumps on the story.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/27/atf-busts-skinhead-plot-to-assassinate-obama-murder-blacks/

I said, above: "But again, the Lord said Obama won't be assassinated (before the election), as I mentioned before, so this just confirms what I heard all along." So this is no suprise, that they foiled this. As I stated here,
QUOTE:

timbitts (and board);

...

I have been encouraged somewhat to speak by the times I have been told things in the past which have/are coming to pass, like when the Lord told me that President Bush would never be impeached and that there would be no repeat of 911 on US soil while President Bush holds the Presidency. And that God will not allow Obama to be assassinated in his run up to the election. These will be, not because I said it, of course, but because I am relying on the word of God to me which cannot be wrong. I have been very careful only to say those things I feel God wished me to say and only those I was certain were from Him. I am an imperfect human, relying on a gift over which I have no control. Sometimes God will tell me one thing, and not elaborate. Such as when He said He would put a democrat in the Presidency, but not Hillary or Obama. He leaves me to puzzle things out, often.

As for the Dinar.. God led me into this and assures me that it IS His will this currency Revalue. So that is what I hold to when others think the Dinar will not be worth more. But I did appreciate your dissertation here on probability and the odds being in our favor now. They are now visibly in our favor toward a stable Iraq and RV, as God has moved the circumstances to be what He wills. It didn't look like it there for a while, but God is over the Big Picture and it always works out the way of His will.

-- June 12, 2008 11:15 PM ∞
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/06/dinar_discussio_3.html#135387

-- October 27, 2008 6:14 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain guarantees victory
– McCain says don't count him out
Lisa Lerer, Mike Allen
Oct 26, 2008

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he can “guarantee” a win on Nov. 4 in a squeaker victory that won’t be clear until late that night.

McCain spoke amid signs of a tightening race, and reports of renewed determination among his staff, which is badly outgunned in both money and manpower.

“I guarantee you that two weeks from now, you will see this has been a very close race, and I believe that I'm going to win it,” McCain told interim "Meet" moderator Tom Brokaw. “We're going to do well in this campaign, my friend. We're going to win it, and it's going to be tight, and we're going to be up late.”

McCain was down just 5 points in the Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released Sunday, with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) leading by 49 percent to 44 percent among likely voters in the daily tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points.

Reuters reported that Obama's lead has dropped over the last three days after hitting a high of 12 points on Thursday. Pollster John Zogby said: "Things are trending back for McCain. His numbers are rising and Obama's are dropping on a daily basis. There seems to be a direct correlation between this and McCain talking about the economy."

The Washington Post reported Sunday: "Inside the McCain campaign the mood remains one of gritty resolve. Top aides know they are behind, but they hold out hope and, like their candidate, stubbornly refuse to give up."

McCain told Brokaw in Waterloo, Iowa, that he feels "like Knute Rockne ... go out there and get one for the Gipper."

“We are very competitive in battleground states," McCain said. "Obviously, I choose to trust my senses as well as polls. The enthusiasm at almost all of our [events] is at a higher level than I've ever seen, and I've been in a lot of presidential campaigns, usually as the warm-up act. ... And I see intensity out there, and I see passion. So we're very competitive.”

McCain added: “We're going to have to just get out our vote, work hard over the next nine days, and make sure that people know that there'll be a better future. People are very worried now — very, very worried, and have every reason to be. I think it's all about who can assure a better future.”

On the endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) by former Secretary of State Colin Powell, McCain said: "I'm disappointed in Gen. Powell, but I'm very, very happy to know that [I'm endorsed by] five former secretaries of states who I admire enormously.”

McCain defended Republican National Committee clothing purchases on behalf of his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Politico revealed during the past week that the RNC spent $150,000 on designer outfits at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue for the vice presidential nominee and members of her family.

"She lives a frugal life,” he said. “She and her family are not wealthy. She and her family were thrust into this and there was some — and some third of that money is given back. The rest will be donated to charity. ... She is a role model to millions and millions and millions of Americans."

McCain appeared in a gracious mood, saying to Brokaw at the end: "I appreciate your many years of informing the American people. You've come a long way from South Dakota, but you have never forgotten where you come from.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081026/pl_politico/14951

-- October 27, 2008 8:36 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N, you posted asking about Roger.
He wrote me today and said he will be back in the States next month,
and he will have time to post then.

Sara.

-- October 28, 2008 1:42 AM


Carole wrote:

Hi
From the campaign trail!

I can't figure this Mc Cain guy out! He has most people in his campaign trail frustrated. Because he demands constraint from his followers.

It is hard as we are confronted by scores o Obama Freaks that have no restraint. Many of Mc Cain workers ignore the rules and in some ways, I think if he does win, it will be because of soooo many that are " doing their own thing" to combat the threat of an Obama win.

The only other assumptions that can be made is tha this McCain guy is the most decent honorable MAN KNOWN TO RECENT POLITICS.
I woud like to believe that, but I find that hard to believe, since he has spent so many yrears at the side of some of Washington's not- so- decent people.
One assupmtion that could be made regarding his intense bent on NOT construing anything negative...is that he might be afraid of what someone might have on him, if provoked.

At any rate it is almost over...at least the election.

You can plan on riots.....whether Obama wins or loses. It is the Black man's symbol of Victory ..as well as Defeat.
AND THAT IS NOT RACIST.....IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED FACT!

There are some very reliable sources that say that no matter what the outcome, Obama will spend several months in seclusion in Hawaii. BTW,,,,, ailing grandma....not been in hospital in years!

Sources say if he wins, he wants to stay away from the riots. If he loses, he can best orchestrate "trouble" from being off of "the mainland.

Strong advice to white folks....stay out of black communities for a long time. I happen to live in an integrated community...so I have no idea what to expect. The black families on my street find Obama deplorable.

I truly have alot of compassion for them. This canpaign has put them back 50 years. THEY DESERVED TO HAVE A DECENT BLACK CANDIDATE, and were cheated out of that...in my opinion.

Well, seek God's sovereign will, which could mean giving us an evil leader, as He did to Israel, during the days of the prophet Jeremiah's.

Love to all,

carole

-- October 28, 2008 5:27 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara,
I'm alittle "rummy" and on brain melt....but the only way I can see your message from God concerning demo winning, but not OBAMA is this:

Obama wins election, but is assassinated before the inauguration, then Biden pops his brain aneurysm....and WALLA!
NANCY PELOSI.....PRESIDENT!

:)

Carole

-- October 28, 2008 5:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq, Kuwait may sign free trade agreement

Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Burham Saleh and the new Kuwaiti Ambassador in Baghdad Ali Al-Momen yesterday discussed the possibility of setting up a joint free trade zone.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 10:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq denounces U.S. raid on Syria
Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:58am EDT

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's government denounced on Tuesday a U.S. air strike on a Syrian border village in an unexpected rebuke of Washington.

"The Iraqi government rejects U.S. aircraft bombarding posts inside Syria. The constitution does not allow Iraq to be used as a staging ground to attack neighboring countries," spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said.

Dabbagh said Iraq had opened an investigation into the incident and urged U.S. forces not to repeat it. But he also called for a halt to what he described as insurgent activity inside Syria.

Dabbagh's comments came a day after Syria's Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem angrily denounced Iraq's initial description of the raid as targeting insurgents across the border. He said the attack killed eight civilians.

The criticism of the United States was announced after a cabinet meeting to discuss a security pact to allow U.S. forces to stay in Iraq.

The pact has so far been blocked mainly by Shi'ite political parties, and one of their main complaints has been that the accord might allow U.S. troops to use Iraq as a base to attack neighboring countries.

Syria said U.S. helicopters struck a border village on Sunday night. Iraq had said the raid targeted staging grounds used by militants, and a U.S. military official said the raid was believed to have killed a major smuggler of foreign fighters into Iraq.

Iraq "reiterates its demand to halt all activities of organizations that are using Syria as a staging ground to arm and train terrorists that are targeting Iraq," Dabbagh said.

The cabinet agreed on Tuesday to amendments which it will now propose to Washington. Dabbagh said those amendments cover the content as well as the wording of the accord, although he gave no further details.

Washington has indicated it is reluctant to make substantial changes to the pact which already included a number of important concessions to Baghdad, such as a 2011 withdrawal date and a mechanism for Iraqi courts to try U.S. troops for crimes.

Iraq's powerful Shi'ite political parties have historical ties to Iran, which has long claimed that the pact would allow Washington to use Iraq as a base for attacks on its neighbors.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 11:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Warzone where oil prospects outweigh risks
Half way up a barren mountain in northern Iraq the earth begins to shake.
By Robin Pagnamenta

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28 October 2008 (The Times)
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Starting slowly, a deep rumble is heard, stopping suddenly with a thin hydraulic hiss. But this is no earthquake. It is part of a seismic test to search for oil in a region where crude is so prolific that it oozes from the rocks.

Andy Grosse, exploration director of Sterling Energy, the British company funding the programme, says: "There is nowhere else left like this on earth - where there is so much potential but so little exploration has been done. For an oil company, it's like being a kid in a sweet shop."

In Baghdad, officials continue to hammer out details of a new oil law while Western oil giants bang on the door for access to vast, established fields further south. But here in Kurdistan, the scramble for Iraq's immense reserves is well under way.

Since the regional government, acting independently, awarded exploration licences to 24 smaller foreign companies last year, the remote Zagros mountains have swarmed with an international army of seismic crews, drillers, their support staff and security teams.

On Sterling's concession near the village of Sangaw, four huge vibrating trucks with 6ft wheels, each weighing 27 tons, are shooting shockwaves deep into the earth. Behind them, strung in a line for miles along the surface, thousands of small microphones pick up the response, identifying reservoirs of oil that could lie 3 or 4km underground.

Garmyan Arif, a Kurdish employee of Sterling, is one of 250 workers on the seismic programme, of which 150 are armed guards. He says with a smile: "It's amazing - we have never seen this kind of thing in Kurdistan before."

Nobody knows how much oil is here but the potential for big discoveries is obvious, judging by an arid riverbed a few kilometres away where viscous black crude trickles from a gash in the earth.

"This is fairly high quality crude," says Mr Grosse, a geophysicist, sniffing at it. "It's very encouraging. We know there is oil here, it's just a question of finding the trap in the subsurface where the oil is seeping out."

Iraq has 115 billion barrels of proven reserves, behind only Saudi Arabia and Iran. Far more might lie undiscovered, much of it in Kurdistan.

"In the early days, they found so much oil further south around Basra where it could easily be exported by tanker that they didn't really bother looking up here," said Mr Grosse. "It was remote, mountainous. There was no way to export it. Then politics came into play in the 1970s and this became a no-go zone."

Kurdistan, a region half the size of Ireland, could easily contain 30 billion barrels - putting it on a par with the United States with 29 billion.

Back in Erbil, the capital, where hotel lobbies buzz with oil executives from Paris, London, Houston and Seoul, the sense of excitement is palpable.

There have already been big discoveries. Last year, DNO of Norway found 1.3 billion barrels near the Turkish border. Another find has been made by a Turkish company with Addax of Canada. With so much exploration going on in such a prospective area, more discoveries seem certain. In some blocks "it's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel", Mr Grosse quips.

As with everything in Iraq, prospecting for oil is not without complications. It is not just the need for new pipelines and infrastructure, the risk that seismic testing using dynamite can detonate unexploded mines, or the need to take tortuous detours along mountain roads to avoid troublespots.

More importantly, political questions continue to hang over the legality of Erbil's decision to allocate oil blocks independently of Baghdad. Oil export licences can be granted only by the central Government, which is still horsetrading with the Kurds over a framework for distributing oil revenues. As no such licences have been granted, it would be illegal for any company to start exporting. It is the political risks that have put off bigger oil companies such as BP and Shell, which are chasing contracts with Baghdad for access to the vast fields of southern Iraq. The small fry believe this leaves them free to find and develop new fields on their own. "This is virgin land," said Awat al-Barzenji, project director of Kar Group, an engineering company involved in several oil projects. "Some people may be hesitant to jump in but for those that do, the rewards will be great."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 11:12 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq minister says scrapping U.S. pact would be 'mistake'

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28 October 2008 (Irish Times)
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Source: Tehran Times

Scrapping a pact that would allow U.S. forces to stay in Iraq for three years would be a strategic mistake that could jeopardize security gains in the country, Iraq's interior minister said.

The support of interior minister Jawad al-Bolani for the pact could help rescue a deal which hit a snag last week when Iraq's government refused to back it without changes.

After months of talks, Washington and Baghdad hammered out a deal this month that gave Iraq important concessions, including a firm withdrawal date of 1102 and the power to try US troops in its courts under some circumstances.

But days after reaching the agreement, the Iraqi cabinet announced that it intended to demand amendments, a move that exasperated Washington.

Iraqi officials say they will decide what amendments to seek after the interior, defense, finance and other ministers make presentations to the cabinet this week. Bolani made clear his advice will be to support the pact.

Asked in an interview on Sharqiya television if he thought it would be a strategic mistake not to sign it, Bolani said: ""Yes I believe so.""

""Professionally, the interior and defense (ministries) must support (the pact),"" he said. ""I am talking about the achievements in security ... The achievements must be maintained by the Iraqi people.""

Violence in Iraq is at four-year lows, and most of the country's security is now in the hands of Iraqi forces. But

Washington says its roughly 051,000 troops are still needed to fight militants and prevent renewed outbreaks of violence.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 11:14 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

Thank you for the update on Roger. I look forward to reading his assessment of his time in Iraq. Hope all is well with you.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 11:18 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Rejection of Oil Law and Move to Create Tribal Councils Add to Tensions With Kurds
PUKmedia 28-10-2008 16:40:25

Tensions between Kurdistan and the central government of Iraq continued to bubble Monday. A parliamentary committee rejected a new draft of an oil law, and Kurdish politicians denounced the government’s effort to create semi-tribal councils as a counterweight to Kurdish political power in Kirkuk.

At least two international organizations are working on reports on the troubles between Iraq’s Kurds and Arabs. The United Nations is expected to release its report in the next month or two.

The International Crisis Group, a nongovernmental organization based in Brussels that seeks to prevent and resolve deadly conflicts, will issue its report on Tuesday. Both try to set out a strategy to resolve a web of interlinked disputes that threaten to set Kurds and Arabs against each other along the border of Iraq’s Kurdistan region.

At issue are fundamental questions of territorial rights: redrawing the borders of the Kurdish region, the rights of that region versus those of the central government and, not least, the region’s right to develop its own oil resources.

“Kurds are very frustrated and are taking revenge by holding up other legislation in Baghdad,” said Joost Hiltermann, a senior analyst of the Middle East for the International Crisis Group.

In the past year relations between the Kurds and the central government have deteriorated. A December 2007 deadline passed without the enactment of an article of the Iraqi Constitution meant to redress the Kurds’ sense of betrayal by the government of Saddam Hussein. In addition to persecuting the Kurds, Mr. Hussein’s government forced them to flee Kirkuk, the center of an oil-rich area, and moved in Arabs to take their place.

The measure, Article 140, proposes a three-part remedy: enabling Kurds to return to Kirkuk, conducting a census, and then holding a referendum in which people who live in Kirkuk will vote on whether the city should become part of Iraqi Kurdistan. Many Kurds have returned, but there has been no census or referendum.

A delay of the referendum was brokered by the United Nations, but Kurds have been frustrated by the lack of any effort to set a new deadline.

It has become an article of faith for Kurdish political leaders that the Kurds have a right to fold Kirkuk into Kurdistan. The Kurds are also seeking to maintain influence over a number of other disputed areas along their border with the rest of Iraq.

The central government has long opposed Kurdistan’s claims to Kirkuk because it wants access to the region’s oil wealth, and also because historically many other peoples have lived there: Turkmens, Arabs and Christians, many of them Assyrians.

The Kurds’ most recent tactic to push the central government to work with them has been to block needed legislation, slowing down passage of a provincial powers law, the election law and the oil law, according to the International Crisis Group report.

The group recommends that the Iraqi central government allow the Kurds to develop and sell their oil through a pipeline to Turkey, giving them some economic independence from Baghdad. In exchange, the Kurds would defer their claim to Kirkuk and accept a power-sharing agreement in which the top provincial slots and the provincial council seats would be equally divided among Kurds, Arabs and Turkmens and a small number of seats would go to Christians. Such an arrangement is acceptable to Arabs, Turkmens and Christians.

“This proposal is a grand bargain,” said Mr. Hiltermann, the crisis group analyst. “This is what the Iraqi government has to give, and they would be giving relatively little, and this is what the Kurds have to give.” It would also ask that Turkey allow the Kurds to export their oil through its territory.

On Monday, the Kurds announced that they had rejected efforts by the government to form tribal support councils in places that include Kirkuk and Khanaqin, a predominantly Kurdish city, and neighboring Jalawla. The councils are similar to the Awakening groups formed by the American military to fight Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the homegrown Sunni insurgent group that American intelligence says is led by foreigners. The armed Awakening groups, whose stated goal is protection of their local areas, have also become a political force in some places.

One reason the Kurds reject them is that they fear that the councils may restrict Kurdish influence. “The areas where Mr. Maliki is forming these support councils are disputed areas,” said Jabbar Yawer, the leader of the ministry governing the Kurdish pesh merga, a regional force partly absorbed into the Iraqi Army. The term “disputed area” describes areas that Kurdistan claims, but that the central government says are part of the rest of Iraq.

“There is no security vacuum in these areas,” Mr. Yawer said. “The police and army are there and they can preserve security.”
(www.pukmedia.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 28, 2008 11:27 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

Have faith. :)
What are you looking at for your pessimism.. the degree of enthusiasm?
The few radicals you encounter (where else would they be, at home?)
AND...
Do you realize that "polls cannot reliably predict races that are less than 10 points apart?"

===

Polls, Predictions and Why You Shouldn't Believe Them
Posted by Matthew Sheffield on November 6, 2006

How accurate are polls at predicting a winner? Not too. So long as a candidate is within 10 points, most polls shouldn't be readily relied on as predictors for who will win. Charles Franklin, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin has an interesting post today about just how important the "margin of error" really is.

On a graph, Franklin compares poll results with actual election results, resulting in several observations, one of which is the importance of realizing that polls cannot reliably predict races that are less than 10 points apart.

The parties themselves are also the biggest indicator of which seats are competitive. If you look at it as detailed as Jay Cost does here, a picture emerges, not of a Democratic sweep but of uncertainty:

http://newsbusters.org/node/8877
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2006/09/iraqi_dinar_dis_5.html#126068

Remembering quote, "the importance of realizing that polls cannot reliably predict races that are less than 10 points apart."
Now to today's polling numbers, which are, quite obviously LESS than ten points apart - less than FIVE actually.

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Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama Under 50%, as McCain Holds Steady
Obama 49.0%, McCain 44.7%
Released: October 28, 2008

UTICA, New York – The race for President of the United States continued to tighten, as both Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain lost ground in a contest that is now a four–point game, the latest Reuters/C–SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows.

Obama lost 0.9 points and now stands at 49.0% in the tracking poll, while McCain lost 0.4 points and now stands at 44.7% support in a head–to–head match–up. Another 6.3% said they were undecided, up from 4.9% the day before.

McCain wins 87% of the Republican support, and Obama 84% of the Democratic support, and each candidate wins 11% of the opposing party’s support. Obama continues to lead among independent voters – his advantage now stands at 16 points, 51% to 35%.

McCain leads among men, 48% to 45%, while Obama leads among women by a larger 53% to 42% margin. Among white voters, McCain leads by a 53% to 41% margin. Among Hispanics, Obama leads, 66% to 28%, and among African Americans, Obama wins 88% to McCain’s 9%.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1614

So when McCain says it is going down to the wire and you won't know until the late hours on election day.. he is only being realistic. And his saying he will win, well.. I believe that is ORDAINED to be.

Sara.

-- October 28, 2008 12:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Thanks for the informative posts. I see the rejection of the oil law and stalling on the SOFA as nothing more than waiting out the US elections. The US must be in place for Iraq to win, and uncertainty about if Obama might get in and decide to pullout precipitously (as he once promised he would), still has bearing in their thoughts. Only once McCain wins will things settle down and the Iraqis get back to business. The "status quo" continuing will also make the markets stabilize, as the volatility adding to the uncertainty in the markets is due to worry over a sharp turn to the Left and socialism engulfing the United States. Once that fear is set to rest, the markets will rebound and begin their recovering ground given way to fear. As Warren Buffet said, "Be greedy when others are fearful" - these rock bottom bargains won't last a long time after McCain gets in. He will be good for the markets stabilizing and for continued prosperity and price increases for those who have bought during this time of Obama-created fear.

Sara.

-- October 28, 2008 12:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraqi cabinet ratifies amendments on US forces agreement
Posted : Tue, 28 Oct 2008
Author : DPA
Category : Middle East (World)

Baghdad- The United States will be asked to consider a series of amendments to an agreement on the status of its forces in Iraq, Iraqi officials announced Tuesday. The list of proposed amendments were ratified by the federal cabinet, which also authorized the Iraqi prime minister to discuss the issue with Washington.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said in a statement that the changes were made in accordance with proposals of ministers from various political parties, the Voices of Iraq news agency reported. He described the changes as "essential and substantial."

After Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki discusses the changes with US officials, it will return to the cabinet for further discussion.

According to broadcaster al-Arabiya, the changes proposed by the cabinet would clarify under what circumstances US troops would be answerable to Iraqi law.

The cabinet also wants clarity on differences between the English and Arabic texts of the agreement. One version calls for US troops to "respect" Iraqi law while the other calls for them to adhere to Iraqi law.

The Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) would extend the mandate of US forces in Iraq beyond the end of this year, when the previous UN authorization runs out.

Washington and Baghdad reached agreement on a final text of the pact earlier this month and hope it will be approved by lawmakers in both countries.

However a number of Iraqi politicians and lawmakers are against the mandate, saying it will violate their country's sovereignty. They have called for amendments before ratifying the draft.

US officials, who hope to complete work on the agreement before the end of the year, have warned of dire consequences to internal security if the Iraqi government does not sign the agreement.

Initial statements from US officials rejected any amendments. But later statements indicated that minor wording changes - but no content changes - would be considered.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari said last week that the agreement is unlikely to win approval in Iraq's parliament before the US presidential election on November 4.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/238987,iraqi-cabinet-ratifies-amendments-on-us-forces-agreement.html#

I don't think the US delegation should be worried about major changes in the agreement.. I believe the Iraqis are just stalling until after the election. The agreement is basically agreed to.. they are just waiting to make sure the person they are dealing with is McCain and will honor the agreement they are now setting up. Remember Obama said to wait until the elections or he would make things hard for them if he was the winner. It was played down, but that was the message.. negotiate with ME and not with them.. or else. And the Iraqis have long memories, remember? They are unlikely to forget those words he made, or their intent, even if the MSM news covers it up for him (Obama). So they wish to make sure who they are dealing with before doing any agreements.

I think the Iraqis saying it will violate their country's sovereignty and other resistance is talk to stall.. I do not believe they are wanting to hand over the control of their country to IRAN instead of forging and honoring an agreement from retreating US forces who are handing them back their country one province at a time. They are not strong enough to stand on their own, so they must pick one of these two larger military powers to align with and gain protection and help from them. I do not believe Iran (again, remember the war the Iraqis fought a bitter war with them where over a million died in recent memory) is their likely choice. They won't freeze out Iran, but it isn't in their own sovereign best interests to give Iran the place the US has now by scuttling the SOFA deal. The US will give them more and more control of their affairs.. as the Iraqis stand up, America stands down. Would IRAN do the same? Iran would never give them independence, they would be cannibalized and absorbed - their oil riches taken to benefit the Iranian people and leaders. The Iraqis are not unreasonable men.. remember they invented the game of chess, which takes all moves into account, including changes of kings on the board.

Sara.

-- October 28, 2008 12:59 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama would be the wrong direction on Iraq.. making the Iraqis nervous so they are stalling..
and Obama would be the wrong direction on Iran, too.
Real change there, hey? -
TO immaturity, an empty suit and "on the job training" for a wet-behind-the-ears senator who has not even served ONE term.
Do Americans sounding this path sound rational to you?
ARE they rational, or deluded?
QUOTE:

The economic sanctions on Iran finally have a chance to bite the mullahs hard. Obama’s stated policy would undo everything just at the moment that it has a chance of producing real change.

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Sarkozy: Obama an empty suit on foreign policy
October 28, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

According to Ha’aretz, the Israeli government has information that Nicolas Sarkozy has derided Barack Obama as an empty suit on foreign policy. The French president, who has worked hard to bring his country closer to the center-right policies of strength especially on Iran and Israel, considers Obama “utterly immature” in this arena:
QUOTE:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama’s positions on Iran, according to reports that have reached Israel’s government.

Sarkozy has made his criticisms only in closed forums in France. But according to a senior Israeli government source, the reports reaching Israel indicate that Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate’s stance on Iran as “utterly immature” and comprised of “formulations empty of all content.”

Obama visited Paris in July, and the Iranian issue was at the heart of his meeting with Sarkozy. At a joint press conference afterward, Obama urged Iran to accept the West’s proposal on its nuclear program, saying that Iran was creating a serious situation that endangered both Israel and the West. According to the reports reaching Israel, Sarkozy told Obama at that meeting that if the new American president elected in November changed his country’s policy toward Iran, that would be “very problematic.”

==end quote==

Can anyone blame him? Europe does not want direct presidential-level negotiations with Iran — they want the mullahcracy isolated. They need American strength behind that position in order to wring concessions from the ruling Guardian Council. With the price of oil plummeting over the past two months, the economic sanctions on Iran finally have a chance to bite the mullahs hard. Obama’s stated policy would undo everything just at the moment that it has a chance of producing real change.

In fact, Sarkozy believes that Obama would wind up being more unilateral than George Bush in his foreign policy. When a French politician uses the word “arrogant” as an accusation, that means something. Apparently, their brief meeting during the Obama World Tour did not set Sarkozy’s mind at ease. He saw something that makes him extremely uneasy with Obama in charge of American diplomacy.

Formulations empty of all content. Sounds familiar, no? It has the ring of Hope and Change.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/sarkozy-obama-an-empty-suit-on-foreign-policy/

-- October 28, 2008 3:05 PM


Sara wrote:

In the radio interview (below), QUOTE:

"Obama delved into whether the civil rights movement should have gone further than it did, so that when "dispossessed peoples" appealed to the high court on the right to sit at the lunch counter, they should have also appealed for the right to have someone else pay for the meal."

In a radio interview in 2001, Barack Obama said the civil rights movement failed when it became so dependent on the Supreme Court that it never got around to working toward redistributing income.

Looks like Obama's goal all along has been that he wants a NEW civil rights movement which will do what the Supreme Court SHOULD have done.. redistribute income. That IS Socialism, aka Karl Marx.

Sara.

===

Obama Camp Lashes Out at FOX News Over Coverage of 2001 Radio Interview
In a radio interview in 2001, Barack Obama said the civil rights movement failed when it became so dependent on the Supreme Court that it never got around to working toward redistributing income.
FOXNews.com
Monday, October 27, 2008

Barack Obama's campaign is firing back against criticism over a seven-year-old radio interview in which Obama discussed wealth redistribution, specifically blaming FOX News for drawing attention to the issue.

In the interview, conducted by Chicago Public Radio in 2001 while Obama was an Illinois state senator and a law professor at the University of Chicago, Obama discusses the failure of the Supreme Court to rule on redistributing wealth in its civil rights decisions. The unearthed conversations gave fresh ammunition to critics who say the Democratic presidential candidate has a socialist agenda.

SEE the audio on youtube here, (Note - close to two million hits on it so far): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

But Obama spokesman Bill Burton on Monday accused FOX News of pushing a "fake news controversy" to further an agenda. Though FOX News played the audio tape for its viewers and did not just recap Republican criticism, Burton suggested FOX News was conspiring with the McCain campaign and the Drudge Report, which posted the material on its Web site.

"This is a fake news controversy drummed up by the all too common alliance of FOX News, the Drudge Report and John McCain, who apparently decided to close out his campaign with the same false, desperate attacks that have failed for months," Burton said in a written statement Monday. "In this seven-year-old interview, Senator Obama did not say that the courts should get into the business of redistributing wealth at all."

In a heated interview later on FOX News, Burton accused the channel of giving McCain advertising "for free every single day," and trying to "continually trump up these fake controversies and have folks on to talk about things that don't have anything to do with the issues that are important to the American people."

"This was indeed an issue that has been driven by the FOX News Channel," Burton said. "And so this notion that somehow FOX News has been fair on these points, it just does not hold up to the reality of sort of the coverage that it's been getting. And I think ... it is rarely so crystal clear when FOX News in and of itself is driving its own specific agenda helping John McCain frankly more than John McCain sometimes helps himself."

SEE the explosive interview with Burton HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9gXD0wSRo

However, the 2001 interview evoked recent questioning by Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher, the Ohio man who asked Obama about his proposal to raise taxes on people making more than $250,000. Obama told Wurzelbacher he wants to hike taxes on the wealthy so that the government can spread the wealth.

In the radio interview, Obama delved into whether the civil rights movement should have gone further than it did, so that when "dispossessed peoples" appealed to the high court on the right to sit at the lunch counter, they should have also appealed for the right to have someone else pay for the meal.

Obama said the civil rights movement was victorious in some regards, but failed to create a "redistributive change" in its appeals to the Supreme Court, led at the time by Chief Justice Earl Warren. He suggested that such change should occur at the state legislature level, since the courts did not interpret the U.S. Constitution to permit such change.

"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical," Obama said in the interview, a recording of which surfaced on the Internet over the weekend.

"It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted.

"And the Warren court interpreted it generally in the same way -- that the Constitution is a document of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf, and that hasn't shifted.

"And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that," Obama said.

John McCain's campaign said the tape proves that Obama is too liberal for the White House.

"Now we know that the slogans 'change you can believe in' and 'change we need' are code words for Barack Obama's ultimate goal: 'redistributive change,'" said McCain-Palin senior policy adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin.

"Barack Obama expressed his regret that the Supreme Court hadn't been more 'radical' and described as a 'tragedy' the court's refusal to take up 'the issues of redistribution of wealth.' No wonder he wants to appoint judges that legislate from the bench," Holtz-Eakin continued.

National Review reporter Byron York, a FOX News contributor, said the U.S. government already has a progressive tax system and that gives money earned by one group to another group, but it's a matter of degree. He added that Obama's outlook on that system hasn't changed.

"It seems clear from listening to this that the Obama of 2001 and probably the Obama of today feels that the government doesn't do that enough, and I think that's probably the big point in this tape," York said.

"You've got to take him at his word," York added. "It seems to me that the tape shows that this is simply a goal he has had for a long time."

In a speech in Cleveland on Monday, McCain said the Obama interview is just another indication that the Democrat wants to increase sharply the amount of government spending.

"Today, he claims he will only tax the rich. But we've seen in the past that he's willing to support taxes that hit people squarely in the middle class, and with a trillion dollars in new spending, the most likely outcome is that everyone who pays taxes will be paying for his spending," McCain said.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/27/radio-interview-obama-laments-lack-supreme-court-ruling-redistributing-wealth/

-- October 28, 2008 4:03 PM


Sara wrote:

Grab today’s Mark Levin show.

The Democrat party is now officially the socialist party in nominating Obama

October 27, 2008

On Monday’s Mark Levin Show: The Democrat party is now officially the socialist party in nominating Obama. Mark explains why and how Obama has the Constitution wrong, and how he speaks of redistributive change.

Furthermore, Obama wants to impose socialism from the bench and the ramifications of this will be disastrous. Why would we want to go away from the Constitution when it is precisely the Constitution that has allowed America to allow the maximum for human / societal development and growth?

Also, why is Obama not doing any more press conferences or taking questions from the news media? Instead, he’d rather use his hundreds of millions of dollars in smear campaign ads.

In the 2nd hour, Mark speaks with Teresa Ghilarducci, Professor of Economics at New School for Social Research in New York about redistribution of wealth and social security funds.

HEAR AUDIO HERE: http://citadelcc.vo.llnwd.net/o29/network/Levin/MP3/levin10272008.mp3

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/27/smells-like-socialist-spirit/comment-page-8/#comment-1569935

-- October 28, 2008 4:29 PM


Sara wrote:

Video: New McCain ad hits Obama on redistribution tape
October 28, 2008
by Allahpundit

Double-barreled action here on the meta-argument that The One’s policies, whether foreign or domestic, are simply too risky to gamble on. The Iran ad, curiously, makes no mention of Sarkozy’s comments even though the McCain camp’s e-mail does. The fact that France is worried about Obama going soft on Iranian nukes might be worth flagging for rural undecideds, n’est-ce pas?

SEE:

On Obama's redistributing the wealth, "Keep the Change": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiB4EobS_ZM

On Obama saying IRAN is "tiny" and no threat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVWBl4A-7WI

Alternately, you could just cut video of Joe the Plumber on the stump for McCain today, agreeing with a questioner who asked whether a vote for Obama isn’t a vote for the death of Israel. Wow.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/video-new-mccain-ad-hits-obama-on-redistribution-tape/

-- October 28, 2008 5:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Joe the Plumber says Obama would make US socialist
PHILIP ELLIOTT
October 28, 2008

COLUMBUS, OHIO (AP) - "Joe the Plumber" endorsed John McCain's presidential campaign Tuesday and said Barack Obama would make America a socialist nation.

The Ohio plumber also agreed with a McCain supporter who asked him if he believed "a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel."

"I'll go ahead and agree with you on that," Wurzelbacher told the man, retired Florida lawyer Stan Chapman who was visiting Ohio.

Wurzelbacher was joined at the rally by Rob Portman, a former Ohio congressman and budget director under President Bush, who said he disagreed with Chapman's assessment of Obama's foreign policy.

Portman said an Obama administration would mean increased taxes on Social Security, dividends and small businesses.

"In the tough economic times that we're in, we shouldn't be raising taxes on anybody," said Portmana McCain adviser.

Wurzelbacher's first trip to the podium was without notes.

"I'm honestly scared for America," Wurzelbacher said.

He later said Obama would end the democracy that the U.S. military had defended during wars.

"I love America. I hope it remains a democracy, not a socialist society. ... If you look at spreading the wealth, that's honestly right out of Karl Marx's mouth," Wurzelbacher said.

"No one can debate that. That's not my opinion. That's fact."

Wurzelbacher also said he had spoken with a lawyer about news reports that his state records had been accessed, perhaps illegally. The Ohio inspector general is investigating who or why accounts assigned to Attorney General Nancy Rogers' office, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department were used.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/28/joe-the-plumber-says-obama-would-make-us-social-1/

-- October 28, 2008 5:32 PM


Sara wrote:

Gallup Poll shows only a two point gap between McCain and Obama.

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Gallup Daily: Presidential Race Narrows Slightly
Obama leads by two points among likely voters
October 28, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- The gap between Barack Obama and John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Saturday through Monday has narrowed slightly, and Obama is now at 49% of the vote to 47% for McCain among likely voters using Gallup's traditional model.

The two percentage point margin for Obama over McCain in today's traditional likely voters result, based on Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Oct. 25-27, is not the first time the race has been this close; it matches the two-point Obama margin that held for three straight reporting periods spanning Oct. 13 -17, a week and a half ago. The traditional model assumes that turnout will follow the patterns of past elections, in which both current interest in the election and past voting behavior are predictors of actual voting.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111568/Gallup-Daily-Presidential-Race-Narrows-Slightly.aspx

-- October 28, 2008 5:45 PM


Sara wrote:

Remember the 845 BILLION Obama wants to give away to foreign governments?
That was in the news in February.. but in case you forgot.. a really keen 2 minute youtube to remind you.

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Video: Obama for Beginners
October 27, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

A new group named It’s My Money has a two-minute web ad against Barack Obama specifically aimed at younger voters. It’s clever:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uERU8oYRIZ4

It breaks down some of the economic arguments into easier bite-sized chunks. The animation is easy to underestimate; watch the expression on the Obama supporters when Obama’s plan gets explained to them. The global-poverty initiative may come a surprise even for people who have paid attention to the race. Accuracy in Media covered it in February, when Democrats tried to move it out of committee:
QUOTE:

A nice-sounding bill called the “Global Poverty Act,” sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.

Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama’s “Global Poverty Act” (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.

The bill, which is item number four on the committee’s business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn’t realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body.

==end quote==

That’s the origin of the $845 billion figure. We spend about $3 trillion a year already on the entire federal budget, and that will add another $70 billion of funding for other governments on our already-bloated government. Most Americans figure we spend too much as it is — and that’s on ourselves.

Perhaps this will explain Obama’s redistributionist tendencies even better than his WBEZ interview. And it’s a lot quicker to the point, too.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/27/video-obama-for-beginners/

-- October 28, 2008 6:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama QUOTE:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

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Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days
Barack Obama shrugs off charges of socialism, but noted in his own memoir that he carefully chose Marxist professors as friends in college.
By Bill Sammon FOXNews.com
Tuesday, October 28, 2008

German philosopher Karl Marx, author of "The Communist Manifesto," advocated redistributing wealth in order to achieve a classless society.

Barack Obama laughs off charges of socialism. Joe Biden scoffs at references to Marxism. Both men shrug off accusations of liberalism.

But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

Obama's affinity for Marxists began when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

Obama's interest in leftist politics continued after he transferred to Columbia University in New York. He lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called "the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union."

After graduating from Columbia in 1983, Obama spent a year working for a consulting firm and then went to work for what he described as "a Ralph Nader offshoot" in Harlem.

"In search of some inspiration, I went to hear Kwame Toure, formerly Stokely Carmichael of Black Panther fame, speak at Columbia," Obama wrote in "Dreams," which he published in 1995. "At the entrance to the auditorium, two women, one black, one Asian, were selling Marxist literature."

Obama supporters point out that plenty of Americans flirt with radical ideologies in college, only to join the political mainstream later in life. But Obama, who made a point of noting how "carefully" he chose his friends in college, also chose to launch his political career in the Chicago living room of Ayers, a domestic terrorist who in 2002 proclaimed: "I am a Marxist."

Also present at that meeting was Ayers' wife, fellow terrorist Bernardine Dohrn, who once gave a speech extolling socialism, communism and "Marxism-Leninism."

Obama has been widely criticized for choosing the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, an anti-American firebrand, as his pastor. Wright is a purveyor of black liberation theology, which analysts say is based in part on Marxist ideas.

Few political observers go so far as to accuse Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, of being a Marxist. But Republican John McCain has been accusing Obama of espousing socialism ever since the Democrat told an Ohio plumber named Joe earlier this month that he wanted to "spread the wealth around."

Obama's running mate, Biden, recently contradicted his boss, saying: "He is not spreading the wealth around." The remark came as Biden was answering a question from a TV anchor who asked: "How is Senator Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?"

"Are you joking? Is this a joke? Or is that a real question?" an incredulous Biden shot back. "It's a ridiculous comparison."

But the debate intensified Monday with the surfacing of a 2001 radio interview in which Obama lamented the Supreme Court's inability to enact "redistribution of wealth" -- a key tenet of socialism.

On Tuesday, McCain said Obama aspires to become "Redistributionist-in-Chief."

Obama has managed to cultivate the image of a political moderate in spite of his consistently liberal voting record. In 2006, he published a second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope," that leaves little doubt about his adherence to the left.

"The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact," Obama wrote in "Audacity." "Much of what I absorbed from the sixties was filtered through my mother, who to the end of her life would proudly proclaim herself an unreconstructed liberal."

National Journal magazine ranked Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. The publication is far from conservative, employing such journalists as Linda Douglass, who resigned in May to become Obama's traveling press secretary.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-marxists-dates-college-days/

-- October 28, 2008 6:35 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

Shhhhhh...
Don't tell anyone.
We are trying to keep this quiet.
We are winning, and the MSM is suppressing it.
Shhhhh...
But just so you can have a little more in the visible realm to go with your faith in the Good Lord:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/6828
Shhhh...

Sara.

-- October 28, 2008 7:49 PM




Sara wrote:

That last joke is only funny if you understand what this video makes plain:

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Video: CBS follows Obama’s money
October 28, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Katie Couric fronts this CBS News look at Barack Obama’s fundraising activities in the general election, and points out a few uncomfortable truths. First CBS reports on the issues surrounding the small donors and the lack of accountability, and then they move onto some revealing special interests:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86RAp_iuhOQ

CBS missed the story on credit-card fraud at Team Obama, and they had an opening for this in the otherwise good reporting on the differences in transparency between Obama and McCain on small donors. However, they did a good job in reporting the fact that Obama likes to rail about Wall Street greed but uses bundlers right out of Goldman Sachs. The disparity in fundraising between McCain and Obama with these well-connected Wall Street firms is eye-opening.

It’s not bad, and the CBS report puts a dent in the mythology of Obama’s transparency.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/28/video-cbs-follows-obamas-money/

-- October 28, 2008 9:00 PM


NEIL wrote:

We are about to witness one of the saddest days in the history of this country when we elect a man of questionable patriotism, proponent of reparation and redistribution of wealth whose primary goal is to enhance the lives of black people.

I am convinced that this race is over and while I find John McCain hard to take, he will at least maintain a semblence of what life in America has been like. I hope and pray that McCain somehow pulls out a victory but it looks impossible.

One of the first acts of Mr. Obama will be to grant amnisty to the 20 million Mexicans, thereby putting most of them on the welfare rolls, i.e. food stamps, section 8 housing, medicade, unemployment benefits, disability benefits and many other govt programs available to people who do not work. Then we will see a concerted effort by 20 million more Mexicans to cross the border and get in on these benefits.

We have borrowed over 5 trillian dollars during the past 8 years and it is now going to accelerate regardless of who is elected.
We are now borrowing money to give away to solve whatever problem comes up. Whoever is lending us this money expects it back with interest at some point in the future and if they ever demand repayment and we cannot accomodate them, then we become a third world country almost immediately.

Whoever is elected has a gaigantic set of problems to solve and I break out in a cold sweat everytime I think of Obama trying to deal with them.

-- October 28, 2008 11:08 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It seems the Iraqi's are taking the initial step to dedollarize their ecnonmy. This can only bode well for the value of the Dinar. Remember the government will not lop the Dinar instead it will free float based upon monetized oil (petro dinars), cash reserves (79 Billion), and gold. These things will help achieve its real rate.
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Iraqi Central Bank bans selling dollars in daily auction

Economics 10/29/2008 5:35:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Oct 29 (KUNA) -- The Iraqi Central Bank ceased suddenly on Wednesday selling dollars in its daily auction to both public and privately-owned banks.
The ban on selling dollars will be in effect until further notice, said a source at the Central Bank.
Prior to this decision, the central bank had registered low demand for dollars reaching only USD 74 million, compared to USD 121 million the bank sold at an earlier auction recently.
Money changers in Baghdad noted that the dollar exchange rate spiked from 1118 Iraqi dinars to the dollar to 1120 dinars and expected a further rise later, though many of them could not link that to the financial crisis that is gripping the world currently.
The exchange rate is sensitive to external factors that affect prices of commodities which in turn raise the rate of inflation, a situation that can only be corrected by strengthening the value of the Iraqi dinar and that is an aspiration that is very much desirable, said an official at the Central Bank The Central Bank runs five auction sessions a week where foreign currency is bought and sold. (end) mhg.ajs KUNA 291735 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 29, 2008 12:55 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The following is from the CBI site regarding the cancellation of the currency auctions.
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Auction of CBI Bills


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Notice

CBI decided to cancel the auction No.11 held on 28-9-2008 for period (364) days because the participant of auctioneers are very few

Counsellor

Hassan - AL Haidary

(www.cbi.iq)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 29, 2008 2:20 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Rob N, for that great article.. it would be good to see a RV.. and this is a step in the right direction.

Neil - I agree with you. Everything I read only makes the prospect of Obama in office look worse. Here.. removal of 401ks. I still believe wholeheartedly that God wills to make McCain President and will move to make it happen.

Note that this article below says, quote, “People are afraid because their accounts are seeing some volatility, so Democrats will seize on the opportunity to attack a program where investors control their own destiny,”

If we move from fear and not faith.. the Democrats win. Trust in God even through this crisis. We also have good reason to trust these conservative-based foundation stones (including 401ks) are sound policy and not be frightened away from what is good and solid by shifting sands in the marketplace (created, if you remember, by Democratic involvement.) This was the BEST documentary I have seen proving that view to date, and so worthy of linking to:

Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Don't be discouraged - fight by getting out and voting and encouraging other Republicans to do so. And of course, pray for God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven. No real Christian who knows the Lord can believe that God would wish in the Whitehouse a man who would expand killing of the unborn and redefine God's definition of marriage which says marriage is between a man and woman, etc, etc..
(see my post above, http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/10/iraq_dinar_disc_1.html#138057 )

For those who disagree with that sentiment, I would love to be there to see them explain to God face to face exactly how they can condone and support such teachings and actions by their vote when they are called into account for their votes (and any ramifications thereof) on Judgement Day. (Matthew 12:36, Heb 2:2, Mark 4:22, etc, etc.)

Sara.

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House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
October 16, 2008

House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks

Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.

At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag, testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.

Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.

The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.

“I want to stop the federal subsidy of 401(k)s,” Ghilarducci said in an interview. “401(k)s can continue to exist, but they won’t have the benefit of the subsidy of the tax break.”

Under the current 401(k) system, investors are charged relatively high retail fees, Ghilarducci said.

“I want to spend our nation’s dollar for retirement security better. Everybody would now be covered” if the plan were adopted, Ghilarducci said.

She has been in contact with Miller and McDermott about her plan, and they are interested in pursuing it, she said.

“This [plan] certainly is intriguing,” said Mike DeCesare, press secretary for McDermott.

“That is part of the discussion,” he said.

While Miller stopped short of calling for Ghilarducci’s plan at the hearing last week, he was clearly against continuing tax breaks as they currently exist.

Savings rate

“The savings rate isn’t going up for the investment of $80 billion,” he said. “We have to start to think about ... whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that’s not generating what we now say it should.”

“From where I sit that’s just crazy,” said John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. in Tarrytown, New York. “A lot of people contribute to their 401(k)s because of the match of the employer,” he said. Belluardo’s firm does not manage assets directly.

Higher-income employers provide matching funds to employee plans so that they can qualify for tax benefits for their own defined-contribution plans, he said.

“If the tax deferral goes away, the employers have no reason to do the matches, which primarily help people in the lower income brackets,” Belluardo said.

“This is a battle between liberalism and conservatism,” said Christopher Van Slyke, a partner in the La Jolla, California, advisory firm Trovena, which manages $400 million. “People are afraid because their accounts are seeing some volatility, so Democrats will seize on the opportunity to attack a program where investors control their own destiny,” he said.

The Profit Sharing/401(k) Council of America in Chicago, which represents employers that sponsor defined-contribution plans, is “staunchly committed to keeping the employee benefit system in America voluntary,” said Ed Ferrigno, vice president in the Washington office.

“Some of the tenor [of the hearing last week] that the entire system should be based on the activities of the markets in the last 90 days is not the way to judge the system,” he said.

No legislative proposals have been introduced and Congress is out of session until next year.

However, most political observers believe that Democrats are poised to gain seats in both the House and the Senate, so comments made by the mostly Democratic members who attended the hearing could be a harbinger of things to come.

Advice at issue

In addition to tax breaks for 401(k)s, the issue of allowing investment advisors to provide advice for 401(k) plans was also addressed at the hearing. Rep. Robert Andrews, D-New Jersey, was critical of Department of Labor proposals made in August that would allow advisors to give individual advice if the advice was generated using a computer model.

Andrews characterized the proposals as “loopholes” and said that investment advice should not be given by advisors who have a direct interest in the sale of financial products.

The Pension Protection Act of 2006 contains provisions making it easier for investment advisors to give individualized counseling to 401(k) holders.

“In retrospect that doesn’t seem like such a good idea to me,” Andrews said. “This is an issue I think we have to revisit. I frankly think that the compromise we struck in 2006 is not terribly workable or wise,” he said.

On Thursday, October 9, the Department of Labor hastily scheduled a public hearing on the issue in Washington for Tuesday, October 21.

The agency does not frequently hold public hearings on its proposals.

Filed by Sara Hansard of Investment News, a sister publication of Workforce Management.

Workforce Management’s online news feed is now available via Twitter.

http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/25/83/58.php

Andrews characterized the proposals as “loopholes” and said that investment advice should not be given by advisors who have a direct interest in the sale of financial products.

Would that outlaw online brokerage services?

Sara.

-- October 29, 2008 2:52 PM


Sara wrote:

The Obama campaign disregards the polls showing Obama ahead..
as they are not a good indicator, they say.
So why should Republicans listen to them?

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Obama Memo: Race is Tightening in Battleground States
October 29th, 2008
by Major Garrett

In a phone interview with FOX News, Barack Obama’s deputy campaign manager, Steve Hildebrand said: “John McCain is right. Things are tightening in the battleground states.”

FOX News obtained a copy of a memo Hildebrand sent to long-standing Democratic operatives on Tuesday.

The memo, shown below, reveals the extensive get-out-the-vote efforts Obama’s team has underway and “urgent” needs that have yet to be met.

Hildebrand told FOX News he sent the memo out to boost efforts in Florida but that similar memos were also sent out seeking help in North Carolina, Georgia and Ohio. He said needs were less acute in Pennsylvania.

Hildebrand said the campaign disregards current state polls showing Obama ahead.

“They were not always a good indicator in the primaries so we’re working hard now. We feel good but we always need more help in the field. On the ground in these states, things feel like they are tightening.”

http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/obama-memo-race-is-tightening-in-battleground-states/

-- October 29, 2008 3:41 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama reasserts his PREVIOUS position of a SUDDEN and precipitous ENDING of the war in Iraq, appeasing his peacenik base. He says he will make the Iraqis "step up" - throwing everything on them and leaving them in the lurch, not conditions based withdrawl, or a continuation of the current policy of waiting for the Iraqis to be ready (they step up, we step down.) Do you see why the Iraqis have reasoned they should delay any progress or agreements with the US? Why commit to an agreement with the current Administration if the possibility exists that the next one will leave you in the lurch? Perhaps giving their word in an agreement means more to the Iraqis than that... ? I think they are acting very flexible no matter who gets into office next.. as Iranian wolves sit haunched to leap on the threshold of their country to take up the "slack" they worry an Obama-America could give them. Remember those old pesky worries Obama dismissed of an Iraqi GENOCIDE.. he said it wouldn't be America's problem if they died from a precipitious withdrawl. If you were Iraqi.. how would you be feeling now?

Sara.

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Obama again pledges to end war in Iraq, says will ask Iraqi gov''t to "step up"
Politics 10/29/2008

WASHINGTON, Oct 29 (KUNA) -- When it comes to keeping the United States safe, Americans do not have to choose between retreating from the world and fighting a war without end in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said on Wednesday at a campaign rally in Raleigh, North Carolina.

"It is time to stop spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq while the Iraqi government sits on a huge surplus," Obama said with six days before Election Day. "As President, I will end this war by asking the Iraqi government to step up, and finally finish the fight against (Osama) bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda terrorists who attacked us on 9/11."

The Illinois senator said he would never hesitate to defend the United States, "but I will only send our troops into harm's way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle, and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home." Most of the speech focused on the U.S. economy, the top issue in the election, as well as related issues, such as health care.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1948696&Language=en

-- October 29, 2008 4:02 PM


Sara wrote:

-- October 29, 2008 7:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Great New Ads.

Obama and Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1azQcs-8iI

Beyond the TV special.. the truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E08opP-qnQM

-- October 29, 2008 7:55 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq takes back control of Wasit province from US
Oct 29 2008
Karim Talbi

Iraq on Wednesday took over control from US forces of Wasit province bordering Iran that American commanders charge is used by Iranian groups to smuggle in weapons to launch attacks.

The Shiite province became the 13th of Iraq's 18 provinces to be handed over by US-led forces to Baghdad amid an overall improvement in security across the country.

Following the handover, US forces are to retreat to their bases and participate in security operations only at the request of the provincial governor.

National security advisor Mowaffak al-Rubaie announced that "within weeks" Baghdad would go on to take control of the northern oil-rich but ethnically volatile region of Kirkuk and of Salaheddin, the Sunni home province of executed dictator Saddam Hussein.

Lieutenant General Lloyd Austin, the number two commander of US forces in Iraq, said Wasit was once a route for "enemies to move weapons ... to attack Iraqi and coalition forces."

"Till seven months back, Wasit saw 16 to 18 attacks each week. Now the province frequently has reached zero attacks largely due to high level of cooperation between all security units."

Rubaie called for neighbouring countries to "control the borders."

"Iraq has drawn a new prosperous future for itself after achieving victory over Al-Qaeda," he said.

"Al-Qaeda is returning to regions from where it came. We have alerted the neighbouring countries and the group has already started to act in these countries. So it is not only Iraq's responsibility to fight the group."

The swift transfer of some provinces has been facilitated by the fall in violence across the country.

A US military surge launched in February 2007, tens of thousands of Sunni men turning against Al-Qaeda, and a suspension of militia activities by anti-US cleric Moqtada al-Sadr have all contributed to the drop in bloodshed.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20081029/twl-iraq-takes-back-control-of-wasit-pro-2802f3e.html

-- October 29, 2008 8:07 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

Things are certainly heating up in Syria! Syria still doesn't realize that when you export people to kill Americans your name goes on a special list at the pentagon.
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Security fears prompt US to close embassy in Damascus
By Anna Fifield in Beirut

Published: October 30 2008 02:00 | Last updated: October 30 2008 02:00

The US said it would close its embassy in Syria today, amid increased tensions between Washington and Damascus following a US military attack that killed a Syrian who was allegedly sending foreign fighters into Iraq.

An anti-US demonstration was to be held in Damascus today to protest against the raid on Sunday night on Bou Kamal, the Syrian village that is a main transit point into Iraq.

Eight people were killed in the attack, including Abu Ghadiyah, who was alleged to have been supporting the insurgency in Iraq. Damascus has denied he was involved in terrorism.

"Due to increased security concerns, the US embassy will be closed on Thursday," the embassy said in a statement last night. It had previously advised Americans in Syria of an increased threat of terrorist attacks, demonstrations and other violent actions against them.

The US recalled its ambassador to Syria following the assassination in 2005 of Rafiq Hariri, the former Lebanese prime minister, in which Syria was accused of involvement.

Sunday's military action - the first such raid inside Syrian territory and one that echoes recent US attacks on Taliban fighters inside Pakistan - sparked an angry response from Damascus.

The Syrian government ordered an American school and cultural centre in Damascus to close and asked the United Nations Security Council to act to prevent another such attack.

Bashar Ja'afari, the Syrian ambassador to the United Nations, described the raid as a "flagrant act of aggression".

Analysts said Sunday's attack was a reminder that relations between Washington and Damascus remained strained.

"Syria's indirect talks with Israel and its diplomatic developments with Lebanon had eclipsed the whole reason why the US had problems with Syria," said Andrew Tabler, a US expert on Syria. "It goes back to the whole issue of foreign fighters in Iraq. This issue is the major bone of contention between the two countries and this raid shows it will continue to be."

The US has repeatedly accused Syria of failing to do enough to stop militants, including al-Qaeda insurgents, from crossing into Iraq and has been sceptical of claims by Damascus that Syria has been more closely policing the border.

Syria is on Washington's list of countries that support terrorism and has been under US sanctions since 2004 because of its alleged support for militant groups such as Lebanon's Hizbollah.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d9d7943a-a622-11dd-9d26-000077b07658.html

-- October 29, 2008 11:18 PM


Sara wrote:

I didn't watch the Obama infomercial, but the AP did.
Here is their assessment of it.
(One question of mine in the article with my name on it, one note after.)

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Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities
Oct 29, 9:48 PM (ET)
By CALVIN WOODWARD

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are - beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years - and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

(Question: Why don't they put in what John McCain's proposal would cost? Is it because it is so very much LESS than Obama's? - Sara.)

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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

THE FACTS: His proposals - the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more - cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged - although not in his commercial - that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

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THE SPIN: "We are currently spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, when they have a $79 billion surplus. It seems to me that if we're going to be strong at home as well as strong abroad that we've got to look at bringing that war to a close." These lines in the ad were taken from a debate with McCain.

THE FACTS: Obama was once and very often definitive about getting combat troops out in 16 months (At times during the primaries, he promised to do so within a year). More recently, without backing away explicitly from the 16-month withdrawal pledge, he has talked of the need for flexibility. In the primaries, it would have been a jarring departure for him to have said merely that "we've got to look at" ending the war. As for Iraq's surplus, it's true that Iraq could end up with a surplus that large, but that hasn't happened yet.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081030/D944H6R80.html

Note: The last one about Iraq - note today the post which speaks of Obama taking up these original pledges and saying he will "end the war in Iraq" and throw it on the Iraqis by making them "step up." What is this, "step up" he speaks of - like the Iraqis are doing what now, playing tiddly winks? Did you note the 13th province Wasit got handed over to them today? They were what.. twiddling their thumbs all this time, and not "stepping up" to take over security in Wasit and the other 12 provinces? What planet does Obama come from? Certainly not the one which deals with Iraqi realities or their struggles to do just that - to "step up" as fast as is realistically possible - taking up the responsibility for the security of their own country. Since he doesn't mean what is going on now - the GRADUAL handover to Iraqi authority as they are able to step up and take over, it must be presumed he is returning to his precipitous withdrawl mantra, while hoping people think he is "flexible".. in the true tradition of the slimy snakeoil salesman, with lots of words, no substance. And you should trust him just as much as you would the slimy snakeoil salesman. What he peddles here is not good for Iraq or for the Homeland (taxes, economy). Which is probably why McCain now leads Obama on both taxes AND the economy.

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McCain Trusted More on Taxes and Economy
Wednesday, October 29, 2008

After several weeks of John McCain’s campaign attacks on Barack Obama’s tax plan and idea of “spreading the wealth around”, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds voters trust McCain more than Obama on taxes, 47% to 45%.

McCain also has gained ground as the candidate to trust on economic issues. Forty-eight percent (48%) now trust the Republican hopeful more than the Democrat while 47% hold the opposite view. This is the first time McCain has led on the issue that has hurt his campaign since September 17. One month ago, Obama held a nine-point advantage when it came to economic issues.

The candidates are now tied on the issue of the War in Iraq, with each man trusted more than the other by 47% of voters. Earlier in the year, McCain held solid leads on the issue. However, two-weeks ago, Obama had a one-point edge.

McCain also passed Obama on Social Security for the first time since early August. Voters now trust the GOP candidate more by a 45% to 44% margin.

McCain holds the advantage on abortion for the second straight poll. Voters trust the Republican more, 46% to 40%. Men favor McCain more by 11 percentage points, while women are fairly evenly divided, favoring McCain by a 44% to 43% margin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/mccain_trusted_more_on_taxes_and_economy

-- October 30, 2008 2:08 AM


Sara wrote:

30 seconds of reasons why people would trust McCain over Obama:

Surgeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ARQi59v51c

-- October 30, 2008 2:13 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Bush confident of Iraq troop deal

The issue of immunity for US military personnel is said to be a sticking point
US President George W Bush has said he is confident a deal on the future of US troops in Iraq will be approved despite amendments which Baghdad has requested.

After talks with the president of Iraq's Kurdish region, Mr Bush said officials were analysing the proposed changes to the agreement on US forces.

"We obviously want to be helpful and constructive without undermining basic principles," he told Massoud Barzani.

Washington had previously said the pact was "final" and could not be amended.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the proposed changes would ban US forces in Iraq from attacking any neighbouring countries - three days after a raid on Syria that Damascus says killed eight civilians.

Iraq also wants greater clarity of what jurisdiction Iraqi law has over major crimes committed by US troops when they are off duty and off base, Mr Dabbagh said.

'Thoughtful review'

On Tuesday, the Iraqi cabinet authorised Prime Minister Nouri Maliki to re-open talks with the US on the pact, which would allow US forces to stay in Iraq after their UN mandate expires on 31 December.

Speaking to reporters after meeting Mr Barzani at the White House, President Bush confirmed the US had received the Iraqi government's proposed amendments to the Status of Forces Agreement (Sofa).

The bar to any revisions is very high

Sean McCormack
US state department spokesman


Iraqi forces prepare to take control

"I informed the president we received amendments today from the government, we're analysing those amendments, we obviously want to be helpful and constructive without undermining basic principles," he said.

"And I remain very hopeful and confident that the Sofa will get passed."

State department spokesman Sean McCormack said that although the US would consider Baghdad's proposed changes, "the bar to any revisions is very high".

"All of that said, this is a serious negotiation process on a serious issue and we will take seriously any comments from the Iraqis. We will do a thoughtful, thorough review of them and then provide them a response," he added.

Correspondents say the issue of immunity for US military personnel and contractors was a key sticking point in negotiating the pact in the first place.

The draft is said to grant Iraqi judicial authorities limited ability to try US troops and contractors for major crimes committed off-duty or off-base - and only then if a joint US-Iraqi committee agrees.

The Iraqis have reportedly also raised concerns about the provisional date of 2009 set for US withdrawals from Iraqi towns and cities, and the date of 2011 for withdrawing from Iraq as a whole.

About 144,000 of the 152,000 foreign troops deployed in Iraq are US military personnel.

US warnings

In an interview with the BBC, Iraq's Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said some of the amendments the government had agreed to seek were substantive.

He said they included Iraq's demand to have the right to inspect US military bases and the mailbags going to and from them.


Mr Zebari said the suspension of US operations would be very bad for Iraq

"The Americans have accepted to look seriously into this amendment. Some of them, actually, are language-related formulations, not substantive, but some other amendments are substantive changes, which I personally doubt will go down well with the American side," he said.

If the agreement was not signed before the end of the year, Mr Zebari said there would be very serious military and economic consequences.

"We've been told by the American side very clearly that they will freeze all their operations, military operations, against terrorists. They will freeze all the assistance and aid and training for the Iraqi security forces," he said.

"They will suspend all economic and reconstruction projects that the US military is doing... if they are not involved. This would really be very bad news for the stability of Iraq and of the region."

The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says that although Washington has agreed to examine the Iraqi proposals, there is clearly little appetite for making substantive changes.

The elements which the Iraqis want to introduce may well be beyond the limits of the US negotiators, which means that when the draft is returned to Baghdad, the cabinet will have to take it or leave it, our correspondent says.

Even if it approves the draft, which is by no means certain, it is bound to have a very rough ride in the Iraqi parliament, where Shia and Sunni factions have been either highly critical or rejected it outright, he adds.
(www.news.bbc.co.uk)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:11 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Transparency and Surpluses in Iraq's Oil-Dependent Budget
Interviewee: Joseph A. Christoff, Director of International Affairs and Trade, U.S. Government Accountability Office
Interviewer: Greg Bruno, Staff Writer, CFR.org

October 28, 2008

Joseph A. Christoff, director of the international affairs and trade division for the U.S. Government Accountability Office, which has audited Iraq's finances, says Iraq has weathered low oil prices in the past and and is likely to do the same now. "Oil prices back in the 2005 were $43 a barrel and Iraq still ended up with a surplus at the end of that year," Christoff says. "Now you have oil prices that have declined to about $65 per barrel, but Iraq generated a heck of a lot of money in the first eight months of the year; it's still going to have a chunk of change at the end of this year to hopefully begin investing in its own infrastructure."
In a previous interview with CFR.org, Iraq's Minister of Finance Bayan Jabr Solagh said Iraq has no surplus of funds. But Christoff says the GAO's August 2008 analysis found the opposite. "Iraq has a lot of money available for its day-to-day operations that exclude the foreign exchange reserves." The GAO says Iraq spent just 14 percent of the money it allocated from 2005 to 2007 on roads, bridges, vehicles, and other critical infrastructure. Christoff says a lack of skilled workers and a reluctance to spend their own capital while U.S. dollars circulate have contributed to the budgetary inertia.
Can you give a bit of an overview of Iraq's budget, how the bulk of it is generated, and what's happened to Iraqi revenues in the last two to three years?
One of the unique qualities of Iraq's budget is over 90 percent of Iraq's revenues that it generates each year come from the oil sector, so it's heavily dependent on the oil sector as the means by which it has money to spend. And when we were asked by Senators [Carl] Levin and [John] Warner to look at Iraq's budget over the last three years, and do some projections for 2008, we worked closely with the Iraqi Ministry of Finance, the Treasury Department, the IMF, to first determine how much money Iraq had in the bank, and then secondly to try to determine how much revenue they had generated in the past. And then secondly, to do some projections for 2008.
Here's basically what we found: In a nutshell, we found in the prior three years, I mean 2005 to 2007, Iraq generated about $96 billion in revenues. Most of that, again, comes from oil revenues. They spent $67 billion and that left them with a $29 billion surplus as of December 2007. So then we had actual data on revenues and expenditures for the first six months of 2008, and then we made some projections using a variety of scenarios for the last six months of 2008, to come up with some estimates of how much money Iraq could generate, how much it would spend, and how much it would have remaining in the form of a surplus. And for that, we found that in 2008, Iraq would generate between $73 billion to $86 billion in revenues, would spend about $35 billion, and end up with a surplus of between $38 billion to $50 billion. And if you add the $29 billion that they already had in the bank at the end of 2007, we were projecting that Iraq would have a surplus that's anywhere between $67 billion and $79 billion.
Your estimates for Iraqi revenues for the second half of 2008 assumed oil prices were going to be around $100 per barrel, if not more. But oil prices are dropping [they were around $64 per barrel at this time of this interview]. How then do falling oil prices affect the projection for Iraq's revenues for 2008?
We developed six scenarios [for the first] six months of 2008. And we looked at historical data and used a price range of between $97 and $125 per barrel. I think you have a very legitimate question about prices of oil going down significantly in the past three or four weeks. How does that affect our projections? The reason why we provided a range, first of all, was to take into consideration increases or decreases in the price of oil, from the highs that Iraq was receiving in July of 2008. And I think when we look at the scenarios that we put together, and I think the scenarios are in our report, right now we believe that [Iraqi revenues] would be close to the low-end of our scenarios in terms of the amount of oil revenues that Iraq would generate and subsequent surpluses as well.

"Starting in December of 2008, a lot of oversight mechanisms are going to go by the wayside. There is at least concern on our part that [Iraq's finances] may not be as transparent."
But it seems like your projections are even lower than the low end.
You have to look at how much money Iraq generated when there were such high prices to begin with. When we look at the data through the end of August, for example, because of the high price of oil, even to the end of August, Iraq had $47 billion in revenue, oil revenue, that they generated. And even by the end of August, Iraq's price per barrel was averaging $112. So we're talking about just in the past three or four weeks that the prices of oil has gone down quite a bit. So if you have $47 billion already in the bank by the end of August, the State Department estimates that in September, Iraq generated $6 billion, they're going to generate $4.5 billion in October. So by the end of October, you have about $57 billion. Two more months remaining, you're pretty close to the low end of our scenario, which is $67 billion in generated oil revenues.
The Iraqi finance minister told me recently that Iraq does not have a surplus of cash. He broke down some of the numbers; pointing to $30 billion, give or take, held in the Central Bank of Iraq, which he said is used to support the Iraqi currency. Help me understand the discrepancy.
Let's talk about that $30 billion that Minister Jabr referred to. That $30 billion is money that Iraq's Central Bank sets aside to try to support its currency. Most countries do that. They have a foreign exchange reserve account that can be used should inflation go up or down so they can adjust the monetary system, put more money in or take money out of the economic system. That also is to control inflation. So that $30 billion is not, and was not, included in GAO's estimates. We took that into consideration, and we made a very important point in our report saying that we did not include that $30 billion because it would result in double counting.
Here's what sometimes the differences come down to--that is, what do you call an expenditure? When we look at an expenditure, we look at the data that is generated by the ministry of finance, and in a cash-based economy, which Iraq has, an expenditure is when the other ministries actually provide receipts to the ministry of finance to prove that they've spent money. I believe that the minister of finance and the minister of planning also have, and try to take in account, what are called commitments, or their plans to spend money. And we are not including these commitments, or intentions to spend, when we document how much money Iraq has actually spent. And I think that's where there is a difference in defining what an expenditure is, because the Iraqi government is including commitments or intentions to spend. We are not.
The suggestion from some U.S. politicians has been that Iraq has this windfall of cash that it isn't spending, while the U.S. is spending upwards of $10 billion a month in Iraq. Are these criticisms fair or accurate?
First of all, the United States does spend a lot of money in Iraq on military operations. But the United States has invested a sizable amount of money, $48 billion [since fiscal year 2003] to try to reconstruct Iraq and try to build up Iraq's security forces. When we looked at how much Iraq was contributing to security and some other critical sectors, like oil, water, and electricity, we found that the United States was spending a considerable amount of money on those critical sectors. Iraq, while it was committing money to those sectors, wasn't actually spending a lot on security, on the oil sector, the water sector, and the electricity sector.
I think you reported that between 2005 and April of 2008, Iraq spent just 14 percent of its allocations for oil, water, electricity and security? Why are they allocating money but not spending it?
I want to make a very important distinction: Iraq can spend its operating budget. An operating budget is going to salaries, wages, and goods and services that you spend in less than one year. It's the investment side of the budget that Iraq has not been spending its money on. And by investment, I mean building critical and important things that the Iraqi people want: schools, housing, medical facilities, generating more electricity, repairing the dilapidated oil infrastructure. So that part of the budget is where Iraq has not been spending a lot of its money in the past. Now, the question is why. Some of the reasons that have been cited, by Iraqi officials and U.S. officials, are that number one, there are just inherent bureaucratic problems. And Iraq does not have the kind of expertise it needs in good procurement, budgeting, and contracting issues. Secondly, there's been brain-drain in the technocrats that were once part of the Iraqi government, that are now, many of them, refugees in neighboring countries. And finally, I think some would contend that because the United States has spent $48 billion to contribute to Iraq's reconstruction and stabilization, there has been less of an incentive on the part of the Iraqi government to spend its own capital money to try to rebuild its infrastructure.

"Because the United States has spent $48 billion to contribute to Iraq's reconstruction and stabilization, there has been less of an incentive on the part of the Iraqi government to spend its own capital money."
Most U.S.-based observers are focusing on troop withdrawals and the December 2008 expiration of a UN resolution authorizing the presence of foreign forces in Iraq. But the end of 2008 could also bring financial changes to Baghdad, including the end of immunity from debt repayment. What is this immunity, and what happens if it's lifted?
When the UN Security Council first passed resolutions in 2003 that established the Development Fund for Iraq, it stated that Iraq oil revenues would be protected and would remain unencumbered by any future debt that the Iraqi government would have to pay. That Security Council resolution expires in December. And so it is conceivable that after December of 2008, Iraq would have to begin [repaying] a lot of its external debt. Now, the good news is that since 2003, Iraq has received quite a bit of debt relief from the so-called Paris Club [an informal group of nineteen of the world's richest countries that assist indebted countries and creditors]. Iraq still owes money to some of its neighboring countries such as Saudi Arabia."
One thing I would like to stress is that the revenue and expenditure data that we use to base our conclusions on was data that had been audited by external sources. So, we're very comfortable and confident that the oil revenue data that we project in our report, and that we provide in our report, is data that was audited by the International Advisory and Monitoring Board, who keeps track of Iraq oil revenues. However, starting in December of 2008, a lot of oversight mechanisms are going to go by the wayside because the UN Security Council resolution that established these oversight mechanisms will no longer be in effect. For example, the Development Fund for Iraq that was established by the United Nations in 2003, the resolution expires in December of 2008. Those monies will be transferred back to the Iraqi government, and it's not clear if any kinds of audit will continue by the International Advisory and Monitoring Board. I think there is at least concern on our part that transparency that was pretty apparent in the work that we did may not be as transparent starting in January of 2009 as these external auditors from the International Advisory and Monitoring Board and the IMF no longer have the access that they currently have.
(www.cfr.org)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:15 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Barzani meets with Bush, Rice in Washington
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30 October 2008 ( Kurdish Globe )
The U.S. president welcomes Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani.
By SuzanneDeRouen
Iraq-U.S. security pact dominates Barzani's talks with Rice, while the Kurdistan president touched upon several topics with Bush.

President Massoud Barzani met with U.S. President George W. Bush on Wednesday in the Oval Office in Washington, D.C., with Bush giving Barzani a resounding welcome.

"It's been a while since we have seen each other, but we have talked on the phone quite frequently--and the reason why is because you've played a very instrumental part in the development of a free Iraq. And I thank you for your leadership and I thank you for your personal friendship," Bush told Kurdistan Region's president.

In an immediate release filed by the U.S. President's Office of the Press Secretary, Bush stated that he and Barzani spoke on topics including progress on the election law and on the hydrocarbon law, as well as the status of forces agreement (SOFA). "President Barzani has been a very strong advocate of the Iraqi government passing the SOFA, and I appreciate that," Bush stated.

Bush praised Barzani for his "courage and leadership." In turn, Barzani thanked the U.S. president.

It's good that there has been another opportunity for us to visit with you again. I am here to convey the gratitude of the Iraqi people in general and the people of Kurdistan, in particular, for the brave decision that you've made to rid us of this dictatorship," said Barzani.

Concerning SOFA, Barzani told the U.S. president: "...We do believe that it is in the interest of the Iraqi government; it's in the interest of this country, and we have been and we will continue to support it and support its ratification."

President Barzani also met with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Tuesday, where talks also focused on SOFA.

According to an AFP report, Barzani and Rica also engaged in discussions about the situation involving Iraq, the Kurds, and Turkey. "We discussed the positive developments that we see in the interests of both sides," Barzani said without elaborating.

According to AFP, State Department spokesman Robert Wood said Barzani and Rice also discussed how "oil-producing regions in Iraq, such as Kurdistan, could share Iraq's oil revenue, a move that has been blocked by Iraqi lawmakers for almost a year."

There is a need for Barzani "to work with the government of Iraq, within the constitutional framework, to end the stalemate in Parliament on proposed hydrocarbon legislation," Wood said. The pair also talked about the Kurdish government's support for representation for minorities in upcoming provincial elections.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Security deal best option for Iraqi autonomy: VP

30 October 2008 ( Reuters )
By Mariam Karouny
Approval of a contentious security pact with the United States which is dividing Iraq's political class is the best path to restoring Iraqi sovereignty, the country's Shi'ite vice president said on Wednesday.

"I think the pact is the best option on the table for Iraq. It's better than extending (the U.N. mandate) or any other idea," Adel Abdul Mahdi told Reuters in an interview.

Abdul Mahdi, a senior member of Iraq's ruling Shi'ite alliance, urged the Iraqi government and the United States to find a swift end to their impasse over the hard-fought security agreement, which will provide legal basis for the 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq after a current U.N. mandate expires on December 31.

Finalization of the pact, which will allow U.S. troops to stay through 2011, was months behind schedule even before the Iraqi government announced this week that it had requested several amendments now being reviewed by U.S. officials.

In the amendments, Baghdad is seeking to ban the United States from launching attacks from Iraqi soil into other countries and also wants to more tightly restrict legal protections for U.S. soldiers who commit crimes in Iraq.

If no deal is finalized before December 31, Iraq has said it may seek an extension of the U.N. mandate or try to find some sort of bridge agreement between the two countries.

The United States has warned that without a legal basis for its soldiers in Iraq, it would confine them to bases from January 1 and would also halt reconstruction work, border security, air traffic control and other activities.

MOMENT OF TRUTH

Abdul Mahdi said the moment of truth for the pact, which still must be approved by parliament, had arrived.

"There is not much time. Either the negotiations succeed or they fail," he said.

"In a very short time, the Iraqi people and its constitutional institutions must be told whether we have a pact or not."

Embracing the agreement is fraught with difficulties for Iraqi politicians, especially Shi'ites, many of whom have close ties to neighboring Iran, which strongly opposes the pact.

The negotiations are further complicated by a U.S. raid earlier this week into Syria, which Damascus has condemned as "terrorist aggression" by the United States. The raid has stiffened political opposition in Baghdad.

Yet Abdul Mahdi said it remained the best option available.

"If we look at Iraq's circumstances, we see that Iraq does not have free will... It is still under international guardianship," he said.

"Iraq is in a complicated security, economic and political situation, as well as in its regional and international affairs ... This pact is one of the correct ways to get out of this."

Abdul Mahdi said he, along with President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, and fellow Vice President Tareq al-Hashimi, a Sunni Arab, would support Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's decision regarding the pact.

"If he wants to go ahead with the pact we will support him. If he decides to go to other options, we will support him."
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kuwait not apprehensive of Iraq-US security pact -- Ambassador Al-Mo''min

Politics 10/30/2008 11:53:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 30 (KUNA) -- Kuwait does not have any apprehensions regarding the security pact to be signed by Iraq and the United States, Kuwait's Ambassador to Iraq Ali Al-Mo'min said.
Speaking to Al-Sabah Iraqi governmental paper, Al-Mo'min said that Kuwait has confidence in Iraqi negotiators and respects Iraqi decisions.
He said that the issue of Iraqi debt was discussed on the political, not diplomatic, level, stressing that the Kuwaiti leadership is searching for the best solutions and ideas in this regard.
On another point, he stressed that the issue of Kuwaiti prisoners of war and missing is very "painful and sensitive", emphasizing that it would be among his top priorities as he served in Iraq.
On his meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, the Ambassador said that Al-Maliki talked of forgetting the past, starting a new phase of optimism and hope, and building strong relations between Iraq and Kuwait in a way that benefits both countries.
Kuwait on its part is also keen on strengthening its ties with the Iraqi government, he highlighted.
The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) shares a lot with Iraq like the geographic location, common interests, and common political and social issues, he said. However, Iraq's joining the GCC is an issue that must be discussed on the political level, he added.(end) ahh.zab.ris KUNA 301153 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

General Says Mosul Needs Cops, Not Army
October 30, 2008
Associated Press

MOSUL, Iraq - A senior U.S. commander, acknowledging that Iraq's now most violent city has been neglected for too long, says that only well-trained police rather than military forces could ensure Mosul's long-term security.

Maj. Gen. Mark P. Hertling, who heads U.S. troops in northern Iraq, told senior Iraqi police officers Wednesday that when American and Iraqi army units inevitably pull out of the city, its security will be in the hands of a now undermanned and inadequately trained police.

Shortly before Hertling's arrival, a car bomb targeting police at a traffic circle killed two people and injured six others, according to a U.S. Military Police report.

In another incident, a grenade was tossed at U.S. troops by a passing motorist who was quickly apprehended. There were no reports of casualties in that attack.

But despite the almost daily violence, the U.S. military says attacks are down by almost half since May, when a major operation was launched to clear al-Qaida and other insurgent groups who fled Baghdad and other areas to Mosul in wake of the U.S. surge.

A second operation began Oct. 15, and the U.S. military says 23,000 Iraqi army and paramilitary police, along with U.S. army units, have now moved into the city, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad.

The sprawling northern hub is bristling with Iraqi checkpoints and U.S. combat outposts.

"We have not supported you enough. We have focused too much on Baghdad," Hertling told a class at Mosul's police training school. "We have been very successful with our army operations but we have not done as well in getting enough policemen on the streets."

He said 49,000 policemen patrolled Baghdad while there were only 25,000 in all of Nineveh province. Mosul, a city of some 1.8 million, is the provincial capital.

The police training school, known as the Mosul Public Safety Academy, is set to double its intake to 1,000 next month for its basic, four-week course. Hertling toured the building site of an adjacent academy for police officers scheduled to open in early 2009.

Iraqi police, who have a widespread reputation for corruption and are often thrown into their jobs untrained, are being sent to the school for courses.

At Haddba district, one of the city's most violence-ridden, the police executive officer said he was short of men, a number of whom have been killed or wounded in recent months.

"Sometimes when we lose our martyrs, or they are wounded, we don't get replacements for them," Lt. Col. Adel Abdul Kader told Hertling.

But he said the recent security lock-down has slashed terrorist acts by about 75 percent in his densely populated district, although crime levels remained the same. The people, feeling more secure, are now coming forward with more tips, he said.

"There are certainly some problems with the Iraqi police but there is also some movement," said Lt. Col. Brian R. Bisacre, whose 728th Military Police Battalion was moved up to Mosul a month ago to work hand-in-hand with the Mosul force, improving training and supplying everything from boots to bunkbeds.

"With all the extra security forces in place, the police have a breathing space. They have to take advantage of the next three to four months," said Bisacre, of Wakefield, Massachusetts. If nothing goes awry, he anticipates "a solid police force" by the spring or summer of 2009.

Maj. Gen. Ahmed Hassan Atia, dean of the police school, seemed less optimistic.

"The key to success is local cooperation with the security forces. This is a street war with gangsters who can choose their time of attack," he said. "We need intelligence more than force, and a bridge of trust between us and the people. That will take years."
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 30, 2008 10:41 AM


Sara wrote:

Iran threatens suicide attacks against the US
October 30, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Iran stepped up its rhetoric against the US today by threatening to use suicide-bomber attacks against America. Ari Larijani, the former nuclear negotiator, referred to the 13-year-old boy sent by the mullahs to disable an Iraqi tank in the 1980s as a model for the fight against the Americans. Larijani promised an “unexpected response”:
QUOTE:

Referring to the US army’s attacks in Pakistan and Syria, Larijani said they would not be answered with diplomatic protests.

“The US method and conduct, expressed by this aggression, will only be stopped by a clear-cut and unexpected response, whose grounds were set by the martyr Hussein Fahmida,” Larijani said during a parliamentary session on Wednesday.

Fahmida was 13 when he detonated an explosive device he carried on him, destroying an Iraqi tank during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s.

“America should be aware not to put its huge body on top of the suicide bombers’ explosive devices,” Larijani said.

===end quote==

Larijani was not alone yesterday in Iranian verbal volleys against the US. Supreme leader Ali Khamanai spoke less literally when he warned nations who didn’t respect Iran’s independence that they would “have their hands cut off”. Khamanai said that reconciliation between Iran and the US would not be possible because Iranians hate America too much, presumably because of our opposition to the ruling mullahcracy and our support of the Shah — although the latter occurred before most Iranians were alive.

The threat to use suicide bombers marks a cassus belli, if the US wanted one as a pretext for strikes. Openly threatening attack on a non-belligerent nation gives that country a right to defend itself. Israel didn’t take the bait with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s genocidal lunacy over the last two years, and it would be madness to attack Iran now anyway.

However, that doesn’t diminish the seriousness of an Iranian leader standing in its parliament and endorsing terrorism as a state policy. That’s exactly what Larijani did in this statement today, and the US should respond by placing Iran’s Revolutionary Guard on the list of terrorist organizations in order to freeze its funds. The Kyl-Lieberman bill would have done that last year, but it was opposed by Barack Obama and most of the other Democrats in the Senate. Larijani’s threat is an open declaration of Iran as a terrorist state, and a lack of response would encourage others to follow suit.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/30/iran-threatens-suicide-attacks-against-the-us/

Apart from this confirming my suspicion it was Iranian nuclear-armed suicide bombers which I saw detonating themselves in multiple US cities in the vision I was given pre-911 and shared with the board previously, I wanted to bring to the attention of the board that Obama opposed the bill to take action against Iran and place the Revolutionary Guards on the list of terrorist organizations. QUOTE:

The Kyl-Lieberman bill would have done that last year, but it was opposed by Barack Obama and most of the other Democrats in the Senate.

This is yet another reason this man's shortsightedness would make the job the Iranians are seeking to do against the US a lot easier if he were to attain to the Whitehouse. Obama would give them more leeway and maneuvering room to accomplish their stated goals. (I know, for now most think of this as a threat against US interests over THERE in the Middle East.. but what about the porous borders here, and the possibility of attack on US soil? Haven't there been reports of sleeper cells of terrorists here? Of plots? Yes, there have.)

I believe America can read the signs.. here, that the Iranians threaten suicide attacks. Coupled with the fact of their seeking nuclear arms and the possibility in the future that the detonations could be nuclear and not conventional on US soil.. and you have the very scenerio which once seemed very, very unlikely when it was thrust upon my consciousness before 911 ever took place.

As the pieces fall into place.. will the US act in its own best interests? Negotiation with Iran is not likely to be the best path to peace when the intent is to create nuclear weapons and detonate them in suicide attacks on US soil. If America scoffs at such a possibility now, in years to come she will see herself proven to have made a very deadly mistake. Forewarned is forearmed. At least McCain would treat Iran as the enemy and not as a potential working partner in a business venture. That degree of proper caution toward terrorist nations alone would make the US far safer than Obama's neophyte and naive youthful optimism.

Sara.

-- October 30, 2008 1:26 PM


Sara wrote:

This is well worth reading - comprehensive, truthful and honest - from a McCain critic.

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McCain's Best Argument
By Quin Hillyer
10.30.08

This is an intellectual exercise, not an endorsement.

If it were an endorsement that also met the "full honesty" standards of good journalism, it would need to be nuanced enough to explain why I would be voting for John McCain even though I dislike the man. After all, I have written many criticisms.

To be fully honest, it would go to some lengths to explain that the best reason to vote for John McCain is probably that it would keep Barack Obama from being president -- because Obama is a radical with very few real achievements, incredibly thin experience, and no record of having been tested in a crisis. Starting from when he was 12 years old and was mentored by an openly Communist poet, continuing through his days at Columbia (the same time terrorist William Ayers was there), his long and extensive associations with Ayers and with PLO apologist whatshisame Khalidi and with hate-spewing clergymen Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger and with the corrupt organization ACORN and apparently with thuggish Marxist Kenyan leader Raila Odinga and with convicted political fixer/felon Tony Rezko, Obama has deliberately and repeatedly associated with people who express contempt for America or for the mainstream of American thought. And Obama's outrageous opposition to the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act shows him not just to be "pro-choice," but to be the most radically and indeed brutally pro-abortion presidential nominee in history. And don't even think about his view on how judges should be more concerned with "empathy" and with helping the "outcast" than with actually applying the words of the laws or the Constitution….

No, this isn't an endorsement. Instead, it is an exercise in putting together the most convincing and comprehensive sales pitch for John McCain that I possibly could do, without bothering with the drawbacks -- but also with the one proviso that every single word of it be true.

In that spirit, here is why John McCain should be the next president of the United States:

There is something special about this country. The United States is exceptional. We are blessed by the good Lord, and in turn we have done more, far more, than any other people to spread freedom across the globe, and prosperity across the globe, and human rights across this great good Earth. We are a particularly good people -- and John McCain understands all this and believes it with every fiber of his being, down to his very marrow, in a way that is deeply spiritual in nature. There is nothing fake about McCain's belief in American Exceptionalism. His belief in this is as genuine, and as deeply felt, as is a son's love for his father. He will defend this country, fight for this country, with every last breath in his body.

And McCain has a record of making the right calls, again and again, when it comes to securing the American national interest around the world. He was right to back Ronald Reagan to the hilt in the greatest foreign challenge of the past 60 years, namely the victorious effort to win the Cold War despite the strenuous and at times vicious opposition of the American Left. But he was right to oppose Reagan when Reagan, with all good intentions, decided to station Marines in Lebanon. McCain broke with his entire party, and warned that the Marines would be sitting ducks, and voted against the deployment. Tragically, McCain was right: More than 200 Americans died in Lebanon in a suicide truck bombing about a month after McCain's warning.

McCain was right to support -- and Joe Biden was wrong to oppose -- the first Gulf War against Saddam Hussein in 1991. McCain was right to support intervention in Kosovo later that decade: It worked. He was right to support a stronger military and greater numbers of personnel when Bill Clinton was cutting it. He was right to fight against wasteful weapons systems, and against corruption in military contracting. He was right to fight a specific boondoggle involving an Air Force tanker; he brought corruption to light (the perpetrators both in the Air Force and at the contractor went to jail) and saved the public $6 billion.

McCain was right to say that Saddam Hussein could be overthrown fairly quickly, with little loss of American life. He was right to say that Hussein was a terrible threat. But he was right, very early on, well before anybody else in the Senate, to say that it would take more troops and a different strategy to secure the peace after we had won the war. He broke with President Bush to say so, way back in 2003, and he was right.

John McCain has suffered for his country in a way only a tiny slice of the population ever has. The story is well known -- not just that he suffered in Vietcong captivity, but that he turned down early release in a profound expression of solidarity with his fellow prisoners. Yet McCain had the grace, when the time was right, to hold out an olive branch to the Vietnamese a couple of decades later when they showed a movement toward greater economic freedom.

John McCain is committed to reaching beyond party labels. Whether always right or wrong to do so, he really cares about doing what he thinks is right no matter whose political ox is gored. Barack Obama may talk a bipartisan game, but he never has actually played on that field. The reality, meanwhile, is that sometimes it helps conservative ends to work with people from the other party. Ronald Reagan knew this. Ronald Reagan knew how to bring Democratic congressmen his way -- for tax cuts and for defense improvements and for spending discipline. McCain, because of his long record of bipartisanship, can do likewise -- especially when it comes to spending. McCain has promised to veto any bill, any bill at all, that contains purely local-interest earmarks -- and with a veto, he can make it stick, even against a Democratic Congress. Eventually, once he makes it stick a few times, he can start bringing Democratic "Blue Dogs" his way on spending. Just watch it happen: Yes, it will.

This bears repeating: No candidate for president since Barry Goldwater has been as committed to spending discipline across the board as John McCain is. His entire record for 25 years gives evidence of that reality. Reagan came close to the Goldwater/McCain level of commitment, but McCain has kept up that fight, a lonely fight, for a quarter century. For limited-government conservatives -- actually, that's a redundancy -- this McCainite stubbornness should be cause for far deeper appreciation than it has received.

McCain also has the right instincts on the key issue of the judiciary. It may not be at the top of his list of importance, but he does, unambiguously, favor the appointment of judges who carefully construe the actual text of the Constitution and laws and are willing to be bound by those texts no matter what their own policy preferences. McCain's judicial nominees would be far more likely, by light years, than would be Obama's nominees, to maintain the Constitution's balance between national and state governments, and its restrictions on Congress's powers. His judges would be less likely to make decisions based on their preferred policy results -- but, because the Constitution is written as it is, a close adherence to the text would result in less hostility to religion, less hostility to honest police action, less hostility to private property, and less hostility to local community standards than would the radically liberal judges of the sort Obama favors.

Also, John McCain is an individualist. He believes in private action. He believes that individuals can live their lives responsibly without government acting as nanny and overseer and ultimate decision-maker on virtually every aspect of daily life. McCain trusts people with their own hard-earned money. McCain has never voted for a tax hike. McCain has supported almost every important tax-cut proposal for 25 years. Even on the two cuts he opposed, he stringently has supported keeping the lower level once it was set: It is a point of honor to him that American taxpayers should be able to count on lower tax rates once they are established and once they have begun to make plans based on those rates. McCain particularly understands that investors -- pensioners, 401(k) holders, homeowners -- are the engine of the economy, and that American investors right now are at a huge disadvantage to the entire rest of the developed world because our investment taxes are higher. McCain will cut investment taxes, and that's a very good thing for everybody.

Finally, there can be no doubt, none whatsoever, that John McCain will brook no corruption in his administration. Woe be to the appointee who would risk sullying McCain's vaunted honor by crooked deals and self-serving actions. It is likely that no administration in history will be so concerned with maintaining high ethical standards as a McCain administration would. And it will be blessed relief to have an administration where not even a hint of scandal will be even whispered by honest observers.

So there you have it: John McCain as a patriot firmly rooted in the American traditions of free enterprise, limited government, strong defense, personal accountability, and a decent respect for the cultural standards of the broad middle of the American public. Those are the constituent elements of American exceptionalism -- and to his great credit, John McCain is an American exceptionalist, and an exceptional American.

http://www.americanprowler.com/archives/2008/10/30/mccains-best-argument

-- October 30, 2008 2:15 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq plans railroad link with neighboring countries

Communications 10/31/2008 11:20:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Oct 31 (KUNA) -- Iraq's Transportation Ministry announced Friday a plan to link the country with neighboring states through a system of railroads.
The blueprint for the project conducted by the Italian Ministry of Transportation has been done, stated the Ministry, adding that a proposed railroad with Turkey was under study at the current moment and the plan was referred to a Czech company.
The Ministry also revealed there are plans to used electric powered locomotives to replace old trains in accordance to the 2009 integration plan.
The draft plan was sent to the Iraqi Ministry of Planning to include it in the country's investment plan. (end) ahh.mha.gta KUNA 311120 Oct 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 31, 2008 10:00 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kurdish president says deal with U.S. unlikely to pass - paper
October 31, 2008 - 09:46:03

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Kurdish President Massoud Barzani said he is “doubtful” that a bilateral agreement authorizing U.S. forces to remain in Iraq after the end of the year would be approved by the Iraqi cabinet and parliament, the Washington Post newspaper said on Thursday.

Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan Regional Government, said most political factions in Iraq want the accord to go through. But he said the country is “in a situation of intellectual terrorism, where people are not able to state their real positions” for fear of appearing too close to the United States and of undercutting their standing in provincial elections scheduled for January.

“Personally, I’m doubtful it will pass,” Barzani said, speaking through a translator, during a meeting with Washington Post reporters and editors.

The assessment came amid growing signs of trouble in negotiations over a status-of-forces agreement, or SOFA, that would govern the U.S. military presence in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires Dec. 31. The process stalled again this week when the Iraqi cabinet decided to reopen negotiations and propose a series of amendments to the pact.

U.S. President Bush, who met with Barzani yesterday in the Oval Office, said he was “analyzing” the proposals and is optimistic that an agreement can be reached. “We obviously want to be helpful and constructive without undermining basic principles,” Bush said. “And I remain very hopeful and confident that the SOFA will get passed.”

But the mild encouragement from Bush came as other administration officials strongly suggested that a compromise is unlikely, increasing the possibility that the issue will become one of the first major challenges facing the next U.S. president.

The Iraqis have made several key demands, including granting Iraq more legal authority over U.S. troops accused of crimes; hardening a tentative 2011 departure date for American troops; and allowing Iraqi inspection of U.S. military shipments.

After a controversial raid by U.S. forces into Syrian territory last weekend, the Iraqis also want an explicit ban on the United States staging attacks from Iraq into neighboring countries.

The Bush administration has repeatedly said that the current draft of the agreement is the furthest that the United States is willing to go. “The bar to any revisions is very high,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

In Iraq, Kurdish politicians have long been the most supportive of the U.S. presence, and the two main Kurdish parties are the only ones in the government to have publicly backed the agreement. “We believe it is in the interest of all Iraqis, especially Kurdistan,” Barzani said yesterday.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 31, 2008 10:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Political powers, Baathists threat of coup on US forces withdrawal, says MP 30/10/2008 13:05:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP Wa'il Abdul-Lateef has warned of the possibility of a coup d'etat in Iraq that "some political and Baathist parties" that he did not name, were threatening to conduct in case the US forces withdrew from Iraq.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- October 31, 2008 10:10 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N, you posted, quote, "Political powers, Baathists threat of coup on US forces withdrawal, says MP"

So the Baathists are agreed.. if Obama wins they will do a bloody coup. I am sure the Iranians are also thinking the same way.. take advantage of his inexperience and "test" him, as Biden said. Considering that the US has achieved the FIRST month of no combat deaths this month.. that is not a very promising development for Iraq IF Obama were to win. (Another reason to vote McCain.)

"the first month since the war in Iraq began in which no U.S. service personnel died in combat in Baghdad"

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No Combat Deaths Reported In Iraq In October
Militant groups are moving their base to Afghanistan.
Friday, October 31, 2008

(UPI) – October could mark the first month since the war in Iraq began in which no U.S. service personnel died in combat in Baghdad, officials said.

Militant groups are moving their base to Afghanistan where U.S. fatalities in October were higher than those in Iraq for the second straight month, the Pentagon said. As of Thursday, 15 U.S. troops died in Afghanistan in October.

"What you're seeing is a migration of the extremists from one area to the other," said Navy Capt. Jack Hanzlik, a spokesman for the military's Central Command, which oversees both Iraq and Afghanistan. "They're not having the success that they had in Iraq and they're looking for other places to go."

http://k102.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=4505991

-- October 31, 2008 3:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Speaking of reasons to vote McCain.. I liked this article.
I found myself going.. "Really? I didn't know that about John McCain."
Maybe they should have informed the public more..

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The Reasons to Vote for McCain
By R. Emmett Tyrrell
30 October 2008

WASHINGTON -- Though I cannot recall ever endorsing a presidential candidate I am going to do so in this column. In this, I am following the lead of the dean of conservative columnists, the excellent Charles Krauthammer. Last week he endorsed Sen. John McCain. Count me for McCain, too.

Our country is at war with terrorists. It faces a grave financial crisis. On both issues McCain is infinitely more experienced than his opponent, Sen. Barack Obama. Perhaps it is because McCain is a retired naval officer and a gentleman, but he remains disappointingly reticent about his personal achievements. Sure, he modestly declares that throughout his adult life he has never flinched from answering his country's call, but there is much more to his life's accomplishment than that. I wish he had allowed his campaign to air more of the videos showing him in that cruel North Vietnamese prison. And there is also footage of his leaping out of a burning fighter on the deck of an aircraft carrier, the back of his flight suit aflame. People who have seen these videos have understood that McCain's commitment to duty is more substantial than the inflated claims of the average campaigning pol.

McCain might have made more of the fact that he rebuilt his broken body after being tortured in prison, defied the pessimistic medical prognostications, and flew combat aircraft again. Then he took command of the Navy's largest air squadron, which he revived to flight readiness. That is an act of executive prowess no one else in this presidential race can claim. Next, he became naval liaison to the Senate and helped rebuild the American military by working with senators on both sides of the aisle. As a congressman and a senator, he has continued this sort of bipartisan reform. Some of the reforms I have opposed, but no other candidate in this race has his record of constructive legislation and leadership.

In the area of national security, he has demonstrated that he knows things that Obama, a novice with but four years on the national stage, can only imagine. McCain knew the surge in Iraq would work, and he had the grit to support it when few would. Once again he was putting his country before his own political ambitions. Nonetheless, McCain is no soft touch for the military. Over the years he has demanded efficiency and economy at the Pentagon and throughout the federal budget. Now in a time of financial crisis he has opted for a proven strategy for economic recovery: low taxes, free trade, and budgetary prudence. Obama's alternatives are the proven recipe for protracted recession. On health care McCain's policies promise expanded coverage with costs under control. Obama's alternative promises the efficiencies of the Post Office, with the citizenry standing in long lines and costs spiraling ever upwards.

McCain then is a true American hero, probably the most heroic to come this close to the presidency. He is a seasoned political leader. He is the model for good citizenship.

Alternatively, there is Obama's record. People who have worked with him tell me he is a decent man. Yet, all he has ever done is run for office, though he has only held two: a seat in the Illinois senate and the U.S. Senate seat he won in 2004. Though he is new to politics, his policies are not as new as he boasts. They are a rerun of the failed Great Society with some latter-day left-wing extravagances thrown in.

That he has not been honest about this is disturbing, and he has established a pattern of deceit in this election that is still more disturbing. His claim that he offers a tax cut for “95 percent” of the citizenry is an obvious deceit. So far as I can ascertain it means sending government checks to some 40 percent of the citizenry who pay no taxes and raising taxes on the rest of us -- yes, tax increases in the midst of recession! More disturbing is that Obama has not been honest about the radical figures he has associated with. William Ayers is an unrepentant left-wing radical who actually bombed government facilities and caused the injury and death of fellow Americans. That is a cold fact. Obama's association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger put him in company with angry anti-American fringe figures, who, were they on the far right, would have ended Obama's political career long ago. Again, he has not been honest about these associations, and McCain -- officer and gentleman that he is -- has not held Obama to account.

Now we hear that there is at least audio of a 2003 dinner held for Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi (a spokesman for the Palestinian Liberation Organization when it was recognized by Washington as a terrorist organization) with Obama in attendance. Reportedly the Illinois state senator was praising Khalidi. Though the audio is being withheld by the Los Angeles Times, Americans ought to hear it before the election. At this dinner speakers allegedly denounced the United States and Israel. By 2003, Khalidi was a neighbor and friend of Obama at the University of Chicago. Again Obama has been deceptive about this dinner and his relationship with this former spokesman for Yasir Arafat.

I actually know a good bit about people such as Ayers, Pfleger, Wright, and now Khalidi. They are the kind of anti-Americans who thrive on the outer fringes of the left. Whether they really hate America as they boast or are just attitudinizing, I do not know. But the consequence of their behavior has endangered this country. By 2003, Obama, green as he is, should have known this. More to the point, he should have been forthright when these friendships were revealed.

At best an Obama presidency would be a return to the Carter years. At worst it would place this country in a condition of peril that we have never experienced in modern times. McCain will protect the country and put it on the road to recovery. He has protected America all his adult life and deserves another tour of service.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/entry.asp?entry_id=49776

-- October 31, 2008 3:20 PM


Sara wrote:

RNC ad: Slippery Slope
October 30, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

While John McCain shifts from economics to national security, the RNC stays on the suddenly slippery numbers coming from Team Obama. Over the last two weeks, the definition of rich has begun morphing, much as Joe Wurzelbacher predicted:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3zHBXg18nc

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QUOTE:

OBAMA: If you make $250,000 dollars a year or less, we will not raise your taxes. We will cut your taxes. If you make less than $200,000 dollars a year, you’ll get a tax cut.

BIDEN: It should go to middle-class people… People making under $150,000 dollars a year.

VO: As time winds down to November 4th, so does Barack Obama’s definition of “rich.” In July, Obama said if you make less than $250,000 dollars per year you get a tax cut. Ten days before Election Day, he changes it to $200,000. And now, Joe Biden changes the threshold to $150,000.

If you’re wondering where you fit in, the answer is … Who knows?

WURZELBACHER: You know, $250,000 dollars now – what if he decides well, you know, $150,000 dollars, you’re pretty rich too, let’s go ahead and lower it again? You know, it’s a slippery slope… When’s it going to stop?

VO: Yesterday, he promised you a tax cut. Today, he promises he’ll change again. And tomorrow, he’ll “spread the wealth” to those that don’t even pay taxes at all.

Change. Change. Change.

Yeah, that’s Barack.

==end quote===

Part of this is due to a mix-up of terms, but I’m not going to exude much sympathy for a campaign that practically made its summer accusing John McCain of wanting a “100-year war” in Iraq. The cutoff for tax increases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut. That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

What’s clear in this clip is that neither Democrat candidate really seems sure what’s in their own policy. They casually toss out figures that seem contradictory without explaining what they mean. That’s either incompetence, or it’s a deliberate attempt to plow the ground for some slippery-slope changes of the kind Joe the Plumber predicted.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/30/rnc-ad-slippery-slope/

I pick incompetence.. which is what the Baathists and Iranians think of him, too.
And that is why they are thinking it would be a heyday for them to take over if he got in.

Sara.

-- October 31, 2008 3:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Zogby: McCain up 1
November 1, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Right now, it’s only on Drudge, and … well, it’s Zogby. Still, it’s going in the direction we all believed the race was heading:

ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error… McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…

This may get pretty interesting. We’ll watch the other tracking polls, which have bounced all over the place the last few days. By Monday, we’ll get a better sense …

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/01/zogby-mccain-up-1/

-- November 1, 2008 3:13 AM


Sara wrote:

Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’

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Obama on low taxes: “Selfishness"
October 31, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama gave John McCain another pre-Election Day gift this morning in remarks made to a Sarasota, Florida audience. After telling Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he wants government to “spread the wealth,” Obama told Floridians that opposition to such policies amounted to “selfishness”:
QUOTE:

“The point is, though, that — and it’s not just charity, it’s not just that I want to help the middle class and working people who are trying to get in the middle class — it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month – then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child. They can buy the products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is better off. All boats rise. That’s what happened in the 1990s, that’s what we need to restore. And that’s what I’m gonna do as president of the United States of America.

“John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic,” Obama continued. “You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.”

==end quote==

Jake Tapper thinks this is a nod to Ayn Rand’s book, The Virtue of Selfishness. He’s unimpressed:
QUOTE:

It would seem to be, given the themes of Rand’s work, what happens when independent achievers are demonized.

Which would fit with this description of those who want to keep their hard-earned tax dollars as “selfish.”

Atlas may not be shrugging, but Obama is.

==end quote==

This reveals the basic underlying philosophy of the Left - that one cannot possibly be charitable unless they use the government to redirect their funds. Obama assumes that people who don’t want to pay higher taxes are somehow “selfish”, but that’s only true if one assumes that the so-called rich won’t do anything else with their money except sit around like Scrooge McDuck, counting it constantly. Most people today invest it, which creates jobs, or spend it, which creates even more jobs, or donate it to charity — which works much more effectively and with much less overhead than filtering it through government bureaucracy.

Those who earn the money want to direct it in the manner they see fit, in the most efficient manner possible. That’s not selfish, it’s just common sense. Only someone in love with government power could see it as anything else.

Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V3FNh3mAuY

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/31/obama-on-low-taxes-selfishness/

Does anyone have a problem with the comparison Obama makes in the video (above) of his sharing his lunch in school with his schoolmates.. with his taking YOUR lunch (in taxes) and giving it to the poor in his Global Poverty Act? And that would be to the tune of 845 BILLION dollars in new "spending" he raises from YOUR TAXES!! Since when is HIS sharing HIS possessions (his lunch, etc) the exact same as his sharing American taxpayer funds which were HARD EARNED by the sweat of someone else's brow? (YOURS) I think he thinks of himself as Robin Hood, but Robin Hood stole from the rich and corrupt and gave to the poor. Does that fit the description of those paying these taxes, as the bracket for taxation level descends from 250,000 to 200,000.. to 150,000 (to 120,000, below). Where will it stop?

Instead of Robin Hood, he is like The Sheriff of Nottingham who raised huge taxes for the King (State). Eventually the Sheriff of Nottingham took every penny from the poor church mice for "good ol' King John" and threw anyone who couldn't pay into debtor's prision. This sounds like Obama who wants to tax to the last penny for his treasury, then acts like the money is his "free lunch" to give in reparations to the poor and disenfranchised in foreign countries.. and to give with his universal health care and "free" college tuitions for everyone - and he wants to pay for that out of the taxpayer pocket too (YOUR POCKET). Does anyone see anything slightly "off" about this?

Now, as I noted above, it is lowered to 120,000.

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaI

Sara.

-- November 1, 2008 3:41 AM


Sara wrote:

No magic bullet.. but policies can make a difference...
and redistributionist tendencies aren't such a good idea, Murdoch says.

===

Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis: report
Nov 1 12:12 AM US/Eastern

Global media tycoon Rupert Murdoch has warned that a win by Democratic hopeful Barack Obama in next week's US election could worsen the world financial crisis, a report said Saturday.

In an interview with The Weekend Australian, owned by Murdoch's News Corporation, the newsman said if the Democrats implemented protectionist policies it would be "a real setback for globalisation".

He warned that an increase in protectionism in the US as suggested by some Democrats in Congress, would risk retaliation from China and could threaten world trade.

"For the past three or four years, some Democrats have been threatening to do things like put on extra tariffs (against Chinese imports) if they don't change their currency," Murdoch said.

"If it happened, it could set off retaliatory action which would certainly damage the world economy seriously."

The Australian-born mogul, who controls media interests around the world, also criticised Obama's proposed tax policies which include granting rebates to most US workers.

"Forty percent (of the US population) don't pay taxes, so how can he give them a tax cut?" he said.

"But you can give them a welfare cheque which he has promised -- a grant of 500 dollars -- which will disappear very fast. It's not going to turn the economy around at all."

Murdoch, who is in Australia to deliver a series of lectures, rejected the suggestion that the ousting of a Republican administration in the US would be a circuit breaker which automatically boosted financial markets.

"To some extent it is beyond the power of politicians," he said of the current crisis.

"You are going to find that the politicians are very limited in what they can do: they can make it worse but they can't stop it."

Murdoch said Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd had been "sure-footed" in handling the crisis, deflecting criticism that the centre-left Labor leader had been too quick to offer a blanket guarantee on bank deposits.

But Murdoch said all politicians should be careful not to worsen the situation by "alarming people more than they should be alarmed".

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081101041202.azy6f08j&show_article=1

-- November 1, 2008 3:47 AM


Sara wrote:

Obama's Aunt Found Living in Rundown Boston Neighborhood
The Democratic candidate's Kenyan aunt is found living in a rundown public housing neighborhood in South Boston
By James Bone, Rob Crilly and Ben Macintyre, The Times of London
October 30, 2008

Barack Obama has lived one version of the American dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story.

Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Obama's best-selling memoir "Dreams From My Father," lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston.

A second relative believed to be the long-lost "Uncle Omar" described in the book was beaten by armed robbers with a "sawed-off rifle" while working in a corner shop in the Dorchester area of the city. He was later evicted from his one-bedroom apartment for failing to pay $2,324.20 in bills, according to the Boston Housing Court.

Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the "Auntie Zeituni" in Obama's memoir.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/30/obamas-aunt-living-rundown-boston-neighborhood/

And an interesting twist..

===

AP: Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally
Nov 1 12:08 AM US/Eastern
By EILEEN SULLIVAN and ELLIOT SPAGAT / AP

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcment official. Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system.

Onyango's case—coming to light just days before the presidential election—led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring any deportations prior to Tuesday's election to be approved at least at the level of ICE regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

The disclosure about Onyango came just one day after Obama's presidential campaign confirmed to the Times of London that Onyango, who has lived quietly in public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his father's side.

It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D945TEE01&show_article=1

-- November 1, 2008 4:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara and board:

Can I get your opinion on this one? I got this one off of IIF. In my view it seems we are close to a resolution to this investment. I am still holding off on a free float of the dinar. The closer we get the more of these lop articles are appearing.
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Shahristani demand for the Americans agree to the deletion of three zeros on the value of their ill-fated Iraqi dinar

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Ready for some arablish???

The name of God the Merciful
His Excellency, the luxury Masood Trzan declare disobedience in Kurdistan
Republic of Kaka and sincere milk Orbeli

Network Basra
A. D. Abdulkazem Aboudi

Without warning Massoud Barzani announced separate "unconstitutional" of the body structure and organization of the Iraqi state, founded by his Almstr Paul Bremer. And Massoud Trzan considers itself the sole governor of Iraq as long as it governs all citizens of Kurdistan, including His Majesty Kaka Jalal, even if the latter is assigned the same for the presidency of the herd and Almstarab Almstagam.

After replacing the Iraqi flag and the Stars insistence on the indivisibility of Iraq under U.S. protection and its constitution at the level of accounts and the way that Znserdha Kurdish shepherds in another article. Here's turn to declare itself independent Kurdistan, protected only for himself and the granting of autonomy to the rest of the poor Iraqis. We do not know where the fate of the remnants of outdated violations of securities and pages that Sodoha seizing They call it "Iraqi Constitution", which has drum Anfsaliwa Shiites and Kurds and Alaaajm together, and has ruled the necks of Iraqis today. Here's his first Alkaka Masood constitutional coup a "khaki" distinct, the Iznha some of the jokes just a joke "Alkakat" forgotten.

He said today is the greatness of his tongue in the presence of the Office of Governor Bush ordered the Pentagon master. Declares this "Alkaka" Kurdistan Democratic Party in Washington that he would be dismissed and wearing constitutions at the level of his brain, Nolh. Yesterday was just happy with a divorce for women and her husband Ka own infallibility; although he still carries a personal definition Kurdish name, "Mullah Mustafa Barzani, Massoud," and also known as Mullah our brothers the Kurds had affiliation to the "Tekke Qadiriya" and the title by virtue of his father, "Mullah" is held Marriages and women called the request of their husbands and Zlam think one day that woman will her husband.

The request "Mullah small" is outside marriage and constitutional Acharaiat together. This time, announced alone, without consulting parliament in Arbil, the announcement of the decision as the "Kurdish parliament democratic" Ka divorce without the return of bond Masmoh "Iraqi Federal Republic" which is the second capital of Baghdad, Irbil be given the frequent administration of the President and followed by days in the north Deteriorating security situation in the "Dar es Salaam" Baghdad.

Bmwtmrh happy news announced yesterday in Washington will make a decision and signed it without debate or a vote by parliament "Olkakoat Democrats of" evil "and they were happy to agree a collective show of hands and feet to the records and sign security agreement with the Americans without reading the translation of the Kurdish language to them. This "Alkaka" democratic forgotten tons speeches delivered over three decades on the "dictatorship of Saddam" and uniqueness in the resolution?.

S "Alkaka" unilaterally announced an agreement to accept a Kurdish security U.S., allowing the Americans to establish bases in Kurdistan, whether the federal parliament approved in the Green Zone, or did not agree to sign a security agreement which cleaved in our heads "Kakoat" with Oaajm Mstarabiy and the Green Zone.

I said, "Alkaka" Masood its dictator, including a unique masters want. But this decision provided an opportunity for Iraqis eternal rebel authorities Kaka Jalal, constitution and parliament and Mhassath and its political Alkchristp. Thus, the "little dictator" the death of its constitution and parliament and with it the myth of "the Federal Constitution" and build a "federal democratic state." He also announced his decision nostalgic return, "the leader of the insurgents" to the old habit of obedience stick construction of a place in Baghdad, the Kurdish rebellion in good years due to the Kurds, both leaders dissidence "democratic" or "armed" the centrality of the Iraqi state-owned Iranian and U.S. and Cardstania.

Must remember to His Excellency Saeed Masood qualities to exempt his "government" not taking the trouble of the ongoing negotiations in Washington with the International Monetary Fund announced by the delegations and services Almstr Solagh Dr. Shahristani demand for the Americans agree to the deletion of three zeros on the value of their ill-fated Iraqi dinar Close to a digital master of the value of the dollar oil. To declare Treasury Secretary gangs "Badr" and the Peshmerga, "The U.S. dollar is also now the official currency in circulation in Iraq, particularly in the north.

The evidence is found when all Iraqis at home and abroad have been translated ministerial instruction effectively deployed and protected his uncle and security agreement Kaka Minister Zebari, who spent is decided without consulting the other Sulagaip or financial obligation of all citizens of the State "Iraqi Federal Qracoc" the payment of Iraqi embassies, the U.S. dollar Only without all the known world currencies.

Has refused to accept Alqaracocip officials in foreign countries dealing in currencies which they are present. And embassies "Alqaracocip" become Mkateba for tourism and recreation for Kakoat and Aghwath who fled to Kurdistan and the media themselves in their offices Pederstan consulates in Iraq without ashamed of themselves to the denunciation of the Iraqi communities around them.

We have denounced many of these countries Tstziv the representatives of "the Republic of Dblomasyua Bulwark protective" for such a strange and amazing resolution required its citizens and Iraqi nationals, where residents pay in U.S. dollars only, without other currencies when their checks to the offices of embassies "Iraqi" for the ratification documents. When prompted some who Atnoa review Almstr Zebari consuls abroad were forced to pay fees at double the price of the value of the dollar Almnaht Alkakoat refusal to accept the consuls and accountants dealing in other currencies, including the euro or local currency of the country.

When he tried to persuade one of our "Alkaka" The euro is an international recognition of the value and a rising value for the dollar, Kaka replied, "Forgiving" This is an embassy consul "Iraq" as follows: [I'm the Pope What understanding euros, dinars What What What Real shekels What yen ... ]. I Arrest dollar salaries of foreign These appointments were green and green linking neck and temperamental green, thank God, Riek and green, not only accept the deal the green dollar its official currency approved by the State to facilitate ratification of transactions with the auditors].

Many did not understand the unfortunate fellow like me to treat those of us in this Aljlavp and Mnfem Why do this "Alkaka" and his ilk Alaatlav the dollar and push the green only to facilitate ratification papers for the treatment of ordinary Iraqi embassy said in the "Iraqi" to believe an Iraqi citizen was free and sent by regular mail and Museibth today Hundreds of kilometers and it carries with it an Iraqi passport in his pocket to prove his identity and with a few stacks of Iraqi dinars remains universally accompanied by a payment in the event of loss of the dollar and wants Iraqi Bdnanerh paid as opposed to facilitate its ratification as long as he is not carrying with him dollars.

When we know the reason champion surprising. Having trouble delayed the cries of protest and we knew that the representative of "the Covenant democratic" This Consul "Alkakoi" thought himself as a consul at the embassy Kurdistan Federal Arab country refused to accept the list of candidates for ambassadorial representation in that country. This "Alkaka" Consul Ambassador Tafran without opening himself to a small kiosk banking and financial transfers within the embassy. Yes, opening himself to the conduct of the Office of the coin to operate the self-employed and set itself the slogan "Long live only in the dollar and breathing Iraqis" after "liberation" of Kurdistan.

Because he does not want to understand that the dollar price and the value determined by the daily speculation and stock exchanges, announced by the daily press and television in each country, which does not want to understand also that the financial crisis hit the dollar and Bush held U.S. green circles on the "dollar Taih luck," but "Kaka Forgiving "Insisted at the expense of profit, corresponding to the value of the dollar in his own way, which was proficient at the expense of sheep and goats when he was the co-sponsors have easy days in Irbil.

Because he wants to show Ctarth sports and calculation with us as he did before the change in the calculation of Aldemqraki herd. We said when asked how he calculated Alkaka capital herd of sheep and goats before the consul??? Response without embarrassment or hesitation: [By God, I think I was number Alkrain "any legs," all sheep and group them together and then I swear to the total output of four would account for the gross capital herd census.

This is Iraq today, in addition to the cycle of accounts where the Kurdish determination Kara you filled the eyes of the mullahs Alkakoat you, Mr. President Massoud.?. Is Sthamik all of America when the ground shake and mountains, and a new Izarmen Kaop the son of Iraq or mourning to spend like you to sponsors

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-- November 2, 2008 12:01 AM


Sara wrote:

Improving the image of the US?

I have noted in the MSM press that there is a concerted effort to say that an Obama Administration would "improve" the image of the US internationally. I thought it noteworthy to point out that Obama has also said that he would hit any terrorists within nations harboring them without first obtaining the permission of the governments involved (ie Bin Laden, if his position was found on the Pakistan border). Recently, the Bush Administration took that same tactic of Obama's and bombed terrorists within Syria in a strike not authorized by the Syrian government. This was a departure from the policies of the Bush Administration throughout the years leading up to this time. I believe the Bush Administration feels it can do this since the LameStream Media press cannot attack the current Administration for doing this without highlighting the fact that an Obama Administration would be a great expansion on this policy, according to Obama's own statements.

The MSM press has been very silent about it, but I feel it should be pointed out that an Obama Administration would hardly be a step toward improving the image of the US if this policy became routine. Already, Syria is making angry moves against the US and Iraq because of it and strenuously objecting. An expansion of this policy worldwide by Obama would not improve the image of the US abroad, contrary to any such claims still held by Obama followers. It may be winning military strategy (regardless of political consequences), but President Bush had not embarked upon this course up until now because it was not diplomatically correct.

I think the President feels he is immune to ridicule on this issue presently since to highlight it in the media at this time would necessarily reflect on the fact that this policy would be expanded by an Obama Administration (according to his statements) - and undercut the Obama followers' guarantee of his "improving" the image of the US in many quarters of the globe. And, of course, the MSM press would not highlight something which could "damage" the possibility of Obama being elected, since they are in the tank for him and are pulling for him to succeed in all their coverage, as is acknowledged by pollsters of public opinion nationwide.

Would this "dove" Obama end up acting even more hawkish and far less diplomatically than the Bush Administration, were he to be elected? Would he be afraid to implement such policies, or bold and determined - creating many such situations globewide? Would such incursions into the space of sovereign nations without prior permission become routine under an Obama Administration? His stated positions point to that as being very likely.

Obama's lack of foreign policy expertise, coupled with the tendency to bomb without permission.. is a recipe for disaster on the international scene. I could see "international crisis" becoming a permanent fixture in the future of US politics under such policies. Such ill-advised tactics under and Obama Administration would be undertaken without the proper and due consideration of a mature and developed foreign policy expertise. Obama's being wet-behind-the-ears and his utter lack of wisdom and discernment concerning foreign policy issues (as illustrated with Georgia recently), coupled with this stated willingness to bomb within sovereign borders of nations without permission...

Again, this would not "improve" the image of the US, contrary to assertions given by the Obama campaign and their helpers in the MSM press.

I just thought it worth noting,

Sara.

-- November 2, 2008 6:41 AM


Carl wrote:

THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN HANDLERS
have run a Presidential Campaign like it was a local Mayor's race...I have never seen such lack of ability in communicating the important issues with the voters..McCain has missed so many opportunities to knock it out of the park, that when he gets one right, I am amazed...If he loses, its because of the Keystone Cop level of campaigning.....
Need Proof....You have a seasoned senator, decorated war veteran running behind someone who has never held a executive management position in any organization....
Need I say anything else....


-- November 2, 2008 7:38 AM


Sara wrote:

That is one unhappy customer, Rob N.

The author is very upset that Maliki has the power to authorize the SOFA agreement in law, apparently. But if the power exists within Maliki's office, this person may be upset about it, but the law stands. It is there because sometimes, if there cannot be agreement made in parliament, in order for the country to move ahead and make agreements, there has to be someone who can make a decision.

We cannot wait until the SOFA expires and leave Iraqis vulnerable to the attacks we know would come with Baathists and Iranians (among others) sitting crouched at the door and US forces unable to defend them. So SOMEONE has to actually make the legislation stick. The FIRST hope is the democratically elected body in Iraq, but if they will not do their duty and come to a compromise agreement they can all live with, then I believe Maliki has the authority and power to implement an acceptable agreement without them, just as the American President has power to make or break national pacts with nations as he sees fit. It is a must for any Commander-in-Chief to do so and act in a somewhat unilateral way, if the good of the country hangs in the balance. In this case, it does and Maliki may be forced to act in that capacity by the deadlock in the parliament over this very important, strategic agreement.

This man (author of the article) is howling about it being an overthrow of democracy or something, but really, he just wants his own way.. as does everyone else in parliament. That is the problem. Maliki's only solution appears to be unilateral action, if they continue on this course of not acting in agreement on issues. It is not dictatorship.. it is a function of checks and balances within the democratic structure, and I am certain Maliki would not be ABLE to do this without the law behind him. So this is sour grapes from someone whose ideas and opinions won't prevail.. but hardly an overthrow of the governmental structure or democracy. This person is a very passionate person and committed to their view of things.. a strength to be sure, but a liability if compromise cannot be worked out in a parliamentary system - necessitating a tie breaker to move the political agenda forward.

As for his comments on the Dinar, on one hand I agree with him. He states that it is "such a strange and amazing resolution required its citizens and Iraqi nationals, where residents pay in U.S. dollars only, without other currencies" and that lack of ACCEPTANCE of the Dinar currency is due to the fact it is not truly valued in the marketplace due to not being free floated and the Iraqis not allowing the marketplace to dictate the Dinar's true worth. If people do not know the real value of the currency, but it is held at an arbitrary amount, they do not trust the currency and move to other more certain currencies to hold their money in.

But this is not to disparage the Dinar currency as this person does. It does not mean the Dinar is useless or "failed." At no time in the past has the prospects for a strong Dinar been so good. The acceptance of the Dinar and its value in a free marketplace is likely in view of the increasing stability and security in the country - once thought to be the ONLY obstacles to a higher valuation of the Dinar. They have the OIL (intrinsic value) to back the Dinar valuation and that will make it one of the strongest currencies in the WORLD.

However, as it sits now, the Dinar is held in a backwater - spinning its wheels at a set price which no one knows whether it is a true valuation of its worth or not. How can they trust it as a worthwhile currency if the value is set by the government like a Communist government sets its currency prices? There is no marketplace to decide what the Dinar is worth.. it is an arbitrary value set by someone behind a desk in a bank. Who trusts that for real monetary value?

He speaks of, "the payment of Iraqi embassies, the U.S. dollar Only" but to have a proud and independent Iraqi currency would require REVALUATION and allowing the Dinar to be subject to the volatility of the marketplace to find its real value.. and this is not allowed. So people go to the more stable and certain currency of the USD and I am sure the Iraqis taking those payments in USD could convert their money to Dinar if they wished to and felt it worth doing. But why do it when the Dinar valuation is so uncertain? It is not accepted worldwide and virtually worthless outside of the country. What is the point of using it except to buy Iraqi groceries locally? This is the problem the government of Iraq has created for its people by not revaluing the Dinar or allowing a free float which would give it a REAL world valuation. Chances are the grocer would prefer USD as well, since HE doesn't know what the Dinar is worth, either.. nor does he trust the arbitrarily set valuation the bankers/government has set for it. This undermines the currency of the Dinar as a means of monetary exchange.

As for his saying, "Almstr Solagh Dr. Shahristani demand for the Americans agree to the deletion of three zeros.." - This is a request, not a statement of policy. It is yet another voice of dissent crying for a voice to be heard and one this discontent author champions as part of his own cry against the government. And the "demand" comes as tempers flare and competing interests clash over issues dear to the Iraqi people. Maliki's having to step in and use his "veto" power due to a lack of ability to come to agreement, shows us that these "demands" all compete for attention, but no compromises are being made on these issues.. the SOFA.. or here the valuation of the Dinar.

These intense flares of temper and anger, as evidenced in the article - along with ridiculing the government - shows a temperamental volatility which I think causes the movement forward of political progress to stall. It is not a constructive criticism or offered with due respect to those involved. Nor is there much room for compromise with such persons who show no brooking of their position, or ability to find common ground.

For the Dinar, the proper course would be to revalue the Dinar so that it has a real world value, rather than using the internationally recognised and accepted US currency. Who wants to hold Iraqi Dinar as a currency of value when no one knows the REAL value of the currency itself and it is worthless in comparison to any outside currency? He is right that the currency is not held in esteem or used in transactions like others which are REAL currencies on the market are. But the fault is the lack of true valuation of the Dinar, not the currency itself. He is wrong to attack the currency and think it should be discarded as a worthless (American made) project. They are talking about their OWN currency, the currency of Iraq, here. If they tear down their own foundations, it would harm their own economic situation. He wants to kick out their legs from underneath them because they are not running on them yet. Foolish. What is left? Only the American currency. Brilliant. (sarcasm)

There is nothing wrong with the currency or its potential underlying value. The fault is in those who are holding up the Dinar Revaluation alone. They are precipitating this crisis of confidence in their own currency and turning the US currency into the only trusted currency for holding Iraqi money. They choose this by not revaluaing. It is their choice. And it is bad for the country. I can see why Iraqis such as this author end up with having their tempers flare. They have the answer before them.. but those in power will not do it because Iraq is pressured by Iran not to. That is because it would strengthen the Iraqi economic situation greatly, and Iran does not want an emerging superpower on its doorstep. Keeping the Iraqis poor and dependent on US currency is in Iran's best interests. It enhances Iraqi sovereignty to have their own currency at a real world and decent value.. those who suppress it are doing so in their own (country's) interests (of Iran), not in the best interests of Iraq as a nation or the prosperity of its people.

The Dinar lop idea is a dumb one, as we have discussed many times on this board before. It does not change the value of the Dinar, it only removes zeros from the currency face, necessitating newly printed currency. It is "value neutral" so why do it? It solves nothing. The frustration with the value of the Dinar is real, but this is not the way to solve it.. revaluation of the Dinar and a free float, as you have always advocated, Rob N, would solve these problems given in this article you posted. The frustration we share with the Iraqis is that those who CAN make this change are unwilling to.. and for this, I believe we have the Iranians to thank (and perhaps others with their own interests first instead of Iraq's), along with a lack of backbone and belief in Iraqi sovereignty.

The Iraqis would not become dependent on America by revaluing.. they would become strong and independent financially. Their own people would trust the currency and use it. THAT would be a bad thing? No, it isn't. But I doubt they hear that from the Iranians who say it would disproportionately help the American cause (and they don't want that, do they?) to revalue. The Iranians will disparage anything which undermines their strengthening Iranian interests in Iraq.. and this one is a key issue. The truth is.. revaluaing the Iraqi Dinar to a real world value would help the Iraqis as nothing else can. People would have confidence in the currency and it could appreciate as the marketplace gained confidence in it, improving the fortunes of those within Iraq. We await the day the Iraqis choose their own sovereign interests over the whispers of the Iranians about not helping the Great Satan.. and choose a destiny which THEY benefit from for their own country's good. And when that happens, the Dinar stops being worthless, and the country gets on track financially.

Oh, and we speculators will see a return on our investment where we gave our hard earned labors (in real world money) for nearly worthless paper, believing the Iraqis would one day be pursuaded to step up and do what is in the best interests of their people and country. For now, they have used our hard-earned cash to prop up their economy when no other way of infusing cash into their economy was feasible. Now they are stabilizing and developing their resources, the time has come for them to take on their destiny and stand with a real world valuation of their currency. Let's continue to hope and pray they will step up to the plate and learn to play ball in the real ballpark.

Sara.

-- November 2, 2008 8:15 AM


Sara wrote:

-- November 2, 2008 8:42 AM


Sara wrote:

HALF the power used by the United States comes from COAL.
Obama QUOTE:

"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

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Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry
By P.J. Gladnick
November 2, 2008

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

(Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting to mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at bottom of this blog.)

Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public...until now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting the coal industry (emphasis mine):
QUOTE:

Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.

==end quote===

Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal industry has been kept under wraps until this time.

UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words" section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.

Comments:

1) Well, there goes by motherbelt

Well, there goes Pennsylvania if this gets out.

I think the thing that's really frightening here is the fact that the people who agree with him are looking forward to him doing it, and those opposed will tell themselves that he's just saying that to appeal to those who want it, but won't really do it when push comes to shove.

This is the problem with a candidate who has no history of accomplishments. There is nothing to formulate an expectation on, and everyone, (as has been pointed out by those without starts in their eyes) gets to paint their own expectations on him and create the character they want. Thus he is all things to all people.

Fooling most of the people most of the time may be just enough.

2) "Well, there goes by HeavyChevy

"Well, there goes Pennsylvania if this gets out."

Huge if MB, and the sad part is who besides us will still care.

Never in my life have I ever been afraid of a candidate up until now. This man will surely bankrupt our whole nation if given the chance.

Change does not always mean for the better.

3) I DON'T THINK SO... by danybhoy

There are waaaay too many old-time Dems, the blue collar labor union types who hve voted Dem for decades, & they do NOT realize that the Demacratic Party has been overrun & is now controlled by the greens. They are zero growth eco marxists who despise capitalism & heavy industry. These idiots will run ALL of our major industry out of the country if they can. The mine worker, the auto workers, & most of the people who work in smokestack industries follow blindly the path laid out by the Dems. They don't see what's coming, & it's their fault.

It does not matter if this gets out, big labor votes the party line every time. Only when the gun is at their head will they MAYBE realize what's up.

"...it's still We The People, Right?" Megadeth

4) I agree 100%, Heavy. Mazzi

I agree 100%, Heavy. I am terrified of Obama. At this point I would almost say "give me Hillary and Bill for 8 years". No matter how bad they are, they are at least, a known quantity.

The things that Obama says, the people he has ties to, the way he can change his story without blinking an eye, and with the full confidence that even millions of viewers seeing it will not impact him - it's all scary.

As someone pointed out a few weeks ago, don't ask what Obama saw in his radical connections, ask this: "what did all those radicals see in Obama?"

"Fool me once - shame on you... fool me twice - shame on me." ~ my Father

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

5) Another reason I think this by motherbelt

Another reason I think this is that the MSM kept saying "people don't care about this, people want to hear about the issues"

But this WAS the issue....Obama's plans. Who cares WHO shaped his view? The issue is his view! People say they want to know about the future. Well this is the future, under Obama. Socialism. Class warfare. Obama would increase the capital gains tax, even if it means less revenue to the government, for the sake of "fairness." Obama thinks everyone should have the same; even if some work a lot harder than others. No one should be denied anything just because they can't pay for it! (The other day I mentioned a college coed whining that it wasn't "fair" that she should be saddled with student loans!)

THIS is what McCain should have been harping on; not the radicalism of Ayers or Wright.

6) THIS is what McCain should by Seashell

THIS is what McCain should have been harping on; not the radicalism of Ayers or Wright.

I think over the last few months this is exactly what he should have been doing, but I still believe that when all these names surfaced(a long time ago) if McCain had done ads, explaining who these guys were, Obama's true relationship with them, how these relationships affected his thinking and his positions i.e. socialism, class warfare,etc., it would have portrayed the pattern of reckless associations in his past which would help to prove what McCain should be hammering home today (the issues you talk about above).

Instead people like Ayers got defined as old 60's radical that "just lived in the neighborhood" and therefore irrelevant.

7) BooHoo by DontFeedTheTrolls

Well, there goes Pennsylvania if this gets out.

I wish, I hope, I pray.

I live in Pennsylvania, in a community with the highest per capita income in the state. All I see in my neighborhood travels are Obama signs. Lawyers, doctors, professors, upper management, writers, real estate millionaires all have the signs. I keep asking myself, "Am I the fool here?", but think I am not. After all, people praised Mussolini and Hitler at some point, and voted for them too. I could just weep.

8) The sad part to me this by USA4freedom

The sad part to me this whole election cycle. We, the conservatives get stuck with someone that we dislike, but compared to Obama, he is a angel (heaven forbid..)

Then we get the press utterly and completely in the tank for Obama. We have McCain that decides to fight with Marques of Queensberry rules when it comes to the good Reverend.

These Marxist will completely destroy this country; this coal story is the perfect example. It does not matter what is good for the country! Its what’s good for the left wing nut jobs, that’s all that’s important.

All of these politically correct people tell us “are you questioning our patriotism?” HELL YES! I am questioning you damn sanity!

You morons on the left will take away ½ of our energy to produce electricity?

Yet the damn press (I hope all of you go bankrupt after this) will cover and lie and point their fingers at us like we.. are the propagandists!!

With all of this some where around half of the citizens of this great country, will vote for this Marxist (with the help of ACORN, it will be more then half).

I wish some how, all of us working stiffs would just say, ok, we will just sit back and let you A..Holes take care of us! We want free health care, free tuition, extra time on unemployment, maybe a nice house that we cant afford, paid with a mortgage that is lower in payments then every one else (if I decide to pay it at all). Ect..Ect..Ect..

Lets see who pays for all of these Freebies, because for damn sure they aren’t free!!!!!!!

Sorry everyone, I think I need someone to send over a case of duct tape, I think my head will explode!!!!!

I am going to take the boat out for a sail today, (my wife thinks I spend too much time yelling at the TV..)

9) Huh? by Franksam

This is a prime example of BHO's logic. As he often has said, "We can have 'both'. This time we can have a bankrupt industry that will pay billions of dollars in taxes. Or am I just missing something?

There are a lot of union by ricklail

There are a lot of union workers mining the coal, shipping it by rail and then working in power plants to generate the electricity. What about the folks in West Va? They produce just as much as Penn. Too bad that time is so short. They'll never hear about this anyway.

"To disbelieve is easy; to scoff is simple; to have faith is harder." Louis L'Amour

10) Slight problem with the by Dave D

Slight problem with the idea. What alot of people in DC don't get is about half of all the electricity comes from coal. (Yes, really just go on wikipedia and search for Electricity generation) So basically if he gets rid of coal we'd have half the electric power and I really doubt renewables would basically increase 10 times over which is what would be needed to cover that.

11) Imagine That by JoelCT

Imagine if John McCain had an audio where he said he was going to put such a huge tax on the wind turbine industry this it would drive them out of business.

"So if somebody wants to build a bunch of wind turbines, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them..."

He would be... well, I don't need to describe it; we all know what would happen to him.

12) Barack Lenin by Minutemen

Under Obama, coal won't be the only industry that will be going bankrupt. - dbo

Destroying our coal production is just one of the multi-axis attacks Obama would use to bring us down. He and his politburo Congress would be psychotically insatiable on our blood.

Obama is a communist revolutionary trying to destroy our nation (because that‘s what communists do; they‘re whack jobs). On October 29, 2008, he told us how he intends to kill us: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31747_Obamas_Civilian_National_Security_Force#rss

Why do we need another military? Obama hates the military so his idea of national security objectives would never include the military he hates, but it would include a “security force” to fight the military that stands between him and total dictatorial power. Obama’s proposed Civilian National Security Force (CNSF) would be a clone of the communist Soviet Red Army that was used in the Russian civil war to destroy the existing non-communist Russian White Army, and over eight million civilians. The Red Army was led by the communist psychopath Trotsky, who opened the doors for the communists‘ dictatorships and their extermination camps for hundreds of millions around the world.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUScivilwar.htm

Imagine someone like the communist terrorist Ayers, or members of the communist Wade Rathke’s ACORN or SEIU, or Barney Frank, or Rahm Emanuel, or Keith Olbermann, or Raila Odinga, or your local ACLU attorney, in charge of a nearby CNSF regiment. How long would you be safe?

The CNSF would likely be used to fight our existing military, after Obama had ordered them to disarm and disband -- which they would never do. Or Obama would try to unilaterally disarm us of nukes, as he has promised, and use Russian, Chinese, Cuban, Venezuelan, or Kenyan troops as his Red Army “peacekeepers.”.

Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must first be overcome. - Samuel Johnson.

Fortune favors the brave. - Publius Terence

13) yall are missing the point by candance

Obama's plan really isn't focused on causing people to lose their jobs. His primary goal is for America to make less energy thereby causing brownouts, sky high light bills, and eventual rationing. If you thought about riding a bike to work when gas hit 4 bucks a gallon, just wait until costs you 500 a month to heat your home.

If people end up losing jobs in the meantime, that's just an added bonus. When they're on government welfare they won't be able to act out against the government.

Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

-- November 2, 2008 1:20 PM


Sara wrote:

Carl and board;

I read an article today which begins:
QUOTE:

As Election Day rapidly approaches, many Americans are wondering why so many of their countrymen reject a genuine war hero with decades of experience, one whose pro-life, limited-government values pretty much reflect those of Middle America. Instead, these same countrymen are enthralled with a man who not only has no experience or qualifications for the job, but who is, in fact, the most radically left-wing major-party presidential candidate of our lifetime, having been mentored and supported for decades by terrorists (Ayers), communists (Davis), America-hating racists (Wright) and criminals (Rezko).

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

===end quote===

Sooo.. I thought you may like to hear his reasoning. It is indeed based in fact. For Christians, do note that QUOTE:

Dr. James Dobson's influential Focus on the Family organization analyzed issue after issue and predicts – are you ready for this? – "hardship," "persecution" and "suffering" as the fate of Christians if Obama becomes president.

Here is the article:

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Yes, Barack Obama really is a Manchurian candidate
Posted: October 29, 2008
By David Kupelian

"If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." – Abraham Lincoln

As Election Day rapidly approaches, many Americans are wondering why so many of their countrymen reject a genuine war hero with decades of experience, one whose pro-life, limited-government values pretty much reflect those of Middle America. Instead, these same countrymen are enthralled with a man who not only has no experience or qualifications for the job, but who is, in fact, the most radically left-wing major-party presidential candidate of our lifetime, having been mentored and supported for decades by terrorists (Ayers), communists (Davis), America-hating racists (Wright) and criminals (Rezko).

Doesn't make much sense, does it?

After all, in past presidential contests, Americans have flatly rejected ultraliberal candidates like McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis – and those guys weren't nearly as radicalized as Obama, who the nonpartisan National Journal rates as having the most left-wing voting record in the entire U.S. Senate – even more so than socialist Bernie Sanders! Moreover, recently it's been proven, despite his campaign's denials, that Obama was indeed a member of the socialist "New Party." And Obama himself confesses that during his college days he intentionally sought out Marxists as friends.

So, how do we explain all this? Why are so many of us eager to turn our nation, the greatest and noblest on earth, over to an angry-at-America, hardcore left-wing "change agent" who will – with the help of a like-minded, Democrat-dominated Congress and a liberal-activist federal judiciary – bring about radical "change" to every area of our lives? Just consider:

- Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate in history, having announced publicly: "The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act." This would remove all restrictions on abortion, including partial-birth abortion and parental notification laws, making America the abortion capital of the world. Of course, you know what kind of Supreme Court justices he would nominate, which as I have pointed out previously would end all hope of overturning Roe v. Wade in our lifetimes.

- He's hands-down the most pro-homosexual candidate in history, promising to back virtually the entire radical "gay rights" agenda, including the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, essentially throwing open the door to gay marriage in all 50 states. And, as he proclaims in his "open letter to the LGBT community": "I have also called for us to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell." That will allow and encourage overt homosexuality throughout the armed forces, something military experts have long maintained will destroy the very fabric of America's armed services.

- Sounds bad for Judeo-Christian values, you say? Dr. James Dobson's influential Focus on the Family organization analyzed issue after issue and predicts – are you ready for this? – "hardship," "persecution" and "suffering" as the fate of Christians if Obama becomes president.

- Obama "would be the most anti-gun president in American history," warns the National Rifle Association, which points out that he has supported a complete ban on handguns, voted to ban most rifle ammunition, and supported increasing the tax on guns by 500 percent.

- Obama would devastate an already deeply troubled U.S. economy. Jacking up taxes, as he promises to do, during the worst financial crisis and credit meltdown since the Great Depression is breathtakingly foolish. No wonder three out of four CEOs of American companies say Obama would be a disaster. Apparently Obama, who constantly badmouths "CEOs" and "corporations," doesn't realize it is these very companies that create over 120 million of America's 140 million jobs (the rest being created by government).

- In order to throttle the troublesome talk radio truth-tellers who caused him so much trouble during the election season, and to reward his cheerleaders in the elite press, Obama will attempt to muzzle conservative talk radio by resurrecting the horrendous "Fairness Doctrine."

- Obama alone will be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory in Iraq. He is so weak, inexperienced and narcissistic, he will reflexively appease our nation's enemies and thereby encourage the growth of evil the world over. Millions will suffer as a direct result.

Then there's the issue of Obama's truly disturbing past. It seems that no matter how stunning the revelations – some of which are finally emerging, no thanks to a shockingly irresponsible and infantile "mainstream press" – they don't penetrate the public mind. Regardless of the evidence against him, people remain entranced by Obama:

- Amidst ever-growing evidence of vote fraud in multiple states perpetrated by ACORN – the notorious left-wing group with which Obama, despite his public statements, has long and deep ties – the Obama campaign's lawyers are now arguing that the Justice Department should not investigate any vote fraud claims until after the election. Instead, say Obama's attorneys, Justice should investigate those citizens who have brought to light the evidence of voter fraud, for supposedly trying to intimidate poor people into not voting. And no wonder: Thirteen of Obama's own campaign workers in Ohio have confessed to have fraudulently voted in that crucial swing state.

- Despite repeated indignant denials by the candidate and his campaign, Barack Obama was once a Muslim. If you question that fact as just a nasty "Internet rumor," examine for yourself Obama's registration papers to the Catholic school he attended in Indonesia, reproduced here by the Associated Press, which clearly indicate his religion at the time as "Islam." Much more troubling are the radical Islamist ties he maintains today, as respected Islam expert Daniel Pipes documents. Even rabid anti-Semite and leader of the radical Nation of Islam group, Louis Farrakhan, says "the Messiah is absolutely speaking" through Obama.

- Which brings us to his most troubling association of all: Obama sat in the church pews for 20 years listening to and absorbing the anti-American, racist, hate-filled sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who claims, among his other lunatic rants, that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks and deliberately created AIDS in order to commit genocide against black people. Wright's rage-filled preaching of "black liberation theology" – an anti-American, anti-White, Marxist philosophy disguised as Christianity – filled Obama's mind and soul for two decades, and they have unquestionably influenced his worldview.

Sitting at the feet of Jeremiah Wright for two decades and being filled each week with such venom against America and white people can fairly be called a form of brainwashing. If you doubt this statement, try spending 30-60 minutes on YouTube and just listen to random video clips of Wright's "sermons." Then, imagine swallowing this poisonous concoction, in person, every week for 20 years. It would be transformative.

- One can go on and on, it's dizzying: Obama worked closely – for years – with William Ayers, a criminal and domestic terrorist who once bombed the Pentagon and other government buildings; there's absolutely compelling evidence – including independent scientific forensic analysis – showing that Ayers wrote all or part of Obama's best selling book "Dreams from My Father"; Obama received crucial funding and other financial benefits from notorious convicted Chicago criminal Tony Rezko; the Obama campaign refuses to produce a simple birth certificate to dispel persistent claims in multiple lawsuits that question the candidate's constitutional qualifications to be U.S. president – it goes on and on, and yet inexplicably, none of it seems to penetrate the minds of those entranced with Obama.

So again, the question: Why, despite a mountain of evidence utterly proving his profound unworthiness to be president, do so many millions of Americans worship Barack Obama? Let's take a closer look.

The magic of envy

In recent decades, more and more Americans have been conditioned by politicians to depend on government to solve their problems. This is how demagogues have long operated. They demonize "the rich," implying they obtained their wealth by exploiting the downtrodden; they stir up racial hatreds at every opportunity; they endlessly bash business and CEOs as evil exploiters; they promise "social justice" and universal happiness if only we will elevate them to power over us.

They do all this by appealing to anger and envy. They know instinctively that if they can stir up and ignite these dark, addictive passions in all of us, they will create a large voting bloc of people dependent on them, and thus be rewarded with great power. In its purest form, this phenomenon is called Marxism, communism, socialism – the spiritual core of which is raw envy. This philosophy of cradle-to-grave security and "wealth redistribution" exerts a powerfully seductive grip on people who have not discovered true inner "government." As William Penn famously said, "Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants."

Communism, of course, is atheistic – where the government is the only true god, the giver of blessings, the solver of problems, the dispenser of justice and mercy. This envy-based, class-warfare-fueled revolutionary system talks always of justice, fairness, progress – but the only progress it delivers is from freedom to slavery.

This is the appeal more and more Americans have been conditioned over the years to respond to, as we have progressively fallen away from the Judeo-Christian values that once animated our culture and institutions. The envy-based system Marx unleashed on the world is alive and well, and in different forms it still dominates large parts of the world. In America, it has taken root in the Democrat Party. Ronald Reagan may have destroyed the "evil empire" of the Soviet Union, but you cannot destroy evil itself. Evil remains, and continues to do its job of tempting and, if possible, corrupting the souls of men.

Even the encouragement of immorality – free sex, abortion, homosexuality, easy divorce and so on – is all part and parcel of the socialist modus operandi, because immoral, dysfunctional people who have crossed the moral line and thus become estranged from God now need the "god" of socialist government.

All of this, my friends, is what we're poised to elect as president in the person of Barack Obama.

This has been coming for quite awhile. Americans, many of us anyway, have become increasingly corrupted over the years. We've been conditioned by our leaders into voting for lying, unprincipled, seductive candidates. We almost elected certified wacko Al Gore as president – someone who seriously wants to outlaw the internal combustion engine. Then we almost elected John Kerry – a super-ambitious, unprincipled and thoroughly unlikable man who first achieved notoriety by betraying his Vietnam soldier colleagues, scandalously maligning them as baby-killers before Congress and the nation.

Now, we're very close to electing an even worse candidate – and the reasons for this tell us much about ourselves.

The power of guilt

If you've ever studied disasters like the explosion of the Challenger Space Shuttle or the sinking of the Titanic, you'll find there was not just one reason, but a whole series of factors that seemingly conspired to cause the catastrophe.

One of the "aiding and abetting" factors in the current election is the fact that Obama is black. Let's talk about race.

Americans – even though slavery and segregation are long gone from the national scene – still have a large and understandable reservoir of collective guilt over its past exploitation and mistreatment of blacks.

Guilt is a fantastically powerful factor in all of our lives. It is a very uncomfortable, nagging pain in our conscience, this thing we call guilt. When we're guilty we try to relieve this inner conflict, and this is often a good thing. If we're guilty toward God, for instance, then we naturally want to make up for that guilt by finding reconciliation and obedience to Him. If we've wronged our neighbor and our conscience bothers us, that guilt is the valuable, redeeming factor that prods us to apologize and make restitution if appropriate. Without being able to experience a guilty conscience, we'd all be amoral psychopaths – literally oblivious to whether or not we had done anything wrong.

However, there's another side to guilt. Manipulative and unprincipled humans soon discover how to use our guilt to get their way. They can even make us feel guilty when we haven't done anything wrong – for instance, by way of false accusation, a tactic the left has perfected.

Now, Barack Obama obviously is not to blame for being black – or more to the point, for how people feel about him because of his race. But the fact is, his being black pushes the guilt button in most of us and we simply see him differently than we would if he were white. (Imagine voting for a white guy with such flimsy credentials and ominous associations.) With white voters in particular, there is a strong urge to finally move beyond our collective guilt over slavery and to prove, once and for all, that we're not a nation beset by racism – by electing a black president.

It's not an exaggeration to call this guilt-induced way of looking at Obama, this conditioned attitude, a type of trance. We hold him to a different standard, we see and feel differently about him, than we would if he were white. We have a kindliness, a desire for his success, a form of love and admiration and well-wishing toward Obama, all based on guilt. But love based on guilt is not real love. It's just an unconscious attempt to rid ourselves of guilt. Shelby Steele, author of "White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era," puts it this way: "[Americans] struggle, above all else, to dissociate themselves from the past sins they are stigmatized with."

Yet this guilt phenomenon is also why craven race-baiters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton still command media respect as "black leaders." We see them through the "white guilt trance," part of which means we're really afraid of being regarded as racists, so we don't criticize these men for their blatant serial demagoguery. Likewise with Obama, there is a great deal of hesitancy to criticize him out of fear of being thought a racist.

You might respond to this by saying: But I don't have any guilt over slavery or segregation. Fine, but it gets much subtler than that.

Did you ever get angry at your kids – and then find yourself "being nice" to them to make up for the guilt of having been impatient? With that in mind, consider just one of many ways guilt (in this case, racial guilt) can find its way into you: Let's say you're walking down the street and a group of black men are walking toward you, and you become fearful (very similar to the story Obama famously told about his white grandmother). That fear has a little resentment attached to it, for that's the nature of fear. But when you become resentful for any reason at all, you automatically incur guilt, because resentment is a wrong, failing way for mature human beings to respond to the stresses of life. Now, saddled with this new guilt associated with black people, a compulsion rises up from within you to make up for that guilt – which you do by discovering a mysterious affinity for black people that wasn't there before. But that "love" isn't real love – it's all rooted in guilt and resentment (just like when you got impatient with your kids, then suddenly became "nice" to them to compensate for your anger). Although my example here centers on race, this guilt principle is universal. Indeed, guilt-based false love is the basis of the ubiquitous "love-hate relationship" that so vexes the human race; hate easily turns into false love, to make up for the guilt of hating. Do you get it?

It's subtle, but this is exactly the kind of dynamic that leads to self-destructive relationships – from personal relationships to electing tyrants.

The Obama News Network

A third factor, shaped powerfully by both the secular love of government and the white guilt factor just discussed, is the incomprehensibly unprofessional way the news media have behaved during the 2008 election.

In my estimation, we basically don't have a free press in America any more, other than the "New Media" – that is, talk radio, the Internet and some cable TV. Most of the rest of the establishment media have pretty much committed suicide this year.

Just imagine that radical activist groups like the ACLU or the strident abortion outfit NARAL decided to start up their own "news organizations," complete with broadcast "anchor people," "reporters" and "correspondents," as well as newspapers and news websites and so on – and with a straight face they called their output "news." Everybody would laugh. Why? Because, while it would have the familiar form of news, it would of course just have the substance of their radical propaganda. No one would take it seriously.

This is exactly what we have in the so-called "mainstream press" today. The New York Times and NBC News, for example, are not true news organizations any more. They've become political and cultural activist organizations pretending to do news. And after having dropped all pretense at fairness this year, everyone knows it. This is why they're more concerned about Joe the plumber's tax bill than about the election being stolen by ACORN – because the elite media have become nothing more nor less than the propaganda ministry and attack dogs for Barack Obama.

Obama, the Manchurian candidate

In the classic 1962 movie thriller "The Manchurian Candidate," a man was programmed by communist handlers, and then emerged into the public arena as a hero, with a largely manufactured history, large parts of which were either obscured or changed. Then he was planted into a position of great influence, having been programmed to usher in tremendous change at the appointed time.

Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father, by the communist sex pervert Frank Marshall Davis, by con man Tony Rezko, by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and others – most of all by black liberation theology screamer Jeremiah Wright. Obama's resume is largely manufactured. There is a total blackout on his college years. His campaign obscures what he did as a "community organizer." All his radical associations are denied or minimized. His miserable legislative record (voting "present" over 100 times to avoid taking a stand), his lack of achievement, his radical views and so on – all have been laundered through the magic of public relations into the near-sacred saga of "The One" who has been sent to serve, and to save, America.

Yet, as I have documented previously, John McCain rendered more genuine service to his country each and every day of those five-and-a-half years he endured in a North Vietnamese prison than Barack Obama has in his entire life.

In "The Manchurian Candidate," several war heroes came back to America from abroad. But one of them harbored a dark agenda, lying in wait, secretly, until it could emerge and transform America.

America has a choice Tuesday between a genuine war hero and a genuine Manchurian candidate.

Choose well.

David Kupelian

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=79411

Click on this url (above) for hyperlinks to most of the points discussed above.

Sara.

-- November 2, 2008 3:24 PM


Sara wrote:

About that 'civilian national security force'
September 08, 2008
Joseph Farah

The pieces are coming together.

We're getting a more complete picture of Barack Obama's draconian plans to create a domestic army of radical extremists promoting bigger and more intrusive government.

The plan is to create a boot camp for community agitators – paid for by you, the U.S. taxpayer.

Investor's Business Daily deserves credit for putting together the elaborate jigsaw puzzle. I merely saw the smoke. IBD discovered the fire. But for reference, you will want to read about what I found previously regarding Obama's calls for a "civilian national security force."

It seems Obama was a founding member of a group called Public Allies in 1992. In 1993, he resigned before his wife, Michelle, took over as executive director of the Chicago chapter.

This little-known, but well-funded, band of taxpayer-supported social misfits will, according to IBD, serve as the centerpiece of his "Universal Voluntary Public Service" program.

"Universal voluntary?" Isn't that an oxymoron? Yes, but just consider the moron who is advocating it.

"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas," write the editorialists for IBD. "They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of 'social change.'"

The "Obama Youth" will get a monthly stipend of $1,800, plus paid health and child care, plus a $4,725 grant after their "service" for future education or school loan payoffs.

But this isn't just a make-work program.

IBD says the "real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about 'social change' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation – the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul 'The Red' Alinsky."

The group boasts that graduates of the program are more than twice as likely as other young people to "engage in protest activities." Isn't that wonderful? That's the real purpose – using your tax dollars to foment extremist political clashes, furthering the reach of Big Government into the lives of all of us.

The government already pays about half the bill for Public Allies through Bill Clinton's AmeriCorps program. Obama seeks to fund it at levels equal to the U.S. Defense Department – close to $500 billion annually.

This is what he meant when he said: "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military."

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

IBD concludes: "The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military – and stick American taxpayers with the bill."

What else is there to say?

Such a program would fundamentally change the character of America – possibly forever.

Someone should ask Obama, who claims to be a legal scholar, where he finds such a program authorized among the enumerated powers of the Constitution.

Now that would be an entertaining question and answer for some intrepid member of the press.

Personally, I won't hold my breath waiting for anyone with access to be so bold.

Remember what programs like this are about. They are about empowering government to take more control over your life. They are about limiting your freedom. They are about picking your pocket. They are about changing the way you think by coercion. They are about making you uncomfortable being an American. They are about total power – and never letting go.

We've seen programs like this before – in Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China.

Never again.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74643

-- November 2, 2008 3:37 PM


Sara wrote:

'Twas the night before elections and all through the town
Tempers were flaring; emotions up and down!

I, in my bathrobe with a cat on my lap
Had cut off the TV--tired of the crap.

When all of a sudden there arose such a noise
I peered out of my window; 'twas Obama and his boys

They had come for my wallet; they wanted my pay
To give to the others who had not worked a day!

He snatched up my money and quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon as I gagged from the stink.

He then rallied his henchmen who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out to tear my country apart!

'On Fannie, on Freddie, on Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi!', he screamed at the pairs!

They took off for his cause and then flew out of sight
I heard him laugh ; we wouldn't stand up and fight!

So I leave you to think on this one final note--

IF YOU DON'T WANT SOCIALISM

GET OUT AND VOTE!!

-- November 2, 2008 3:42 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Analysis: Al-Maliki stressing US departure
Sunday, November 2, 2008 2:16 AM EST
The Associated Press
By ROBERT H. REID Associated Press Writer


BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's prime minister is pushing the idea that the U.S. departure is in sight in a bid to sell the security deal with Washington to Iran.

To reinforce the message, the Iraqis are asking for changes to the deal that would effectively rule out extending the U.S. military presence beyond 2011.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his allies are also describing the agreement not as a formula for long-term U.S.-Iraqi security cooperation — the original goal when the talks began earlier this year — but as a way to manage the U.S. withdrawal.

It's unclear whether this will be enough to win over the Iranians and Iraqi critics — or whether the U.S. will go along with the demands submitted by the Iraqi Cabinet this week.

The Iraqis want expanded Iraqi jurisdiction over U.S. troops and elimination of a clause that could allow the soldiers to stay past a tentative Dec. 31, 2011 deadline.

Iran strongly opposes the agreement, fearing it could lead to U.S. troops remaining in a neighboring country indefinitely.

With Iranian sensitivities in mind, the Iraqis also want an explicit ban on the U.S. using Iraqi territory to attack its neighbors — a demand that was reinforced by last Sunday's U.S. raid against a suspected al-Qaida hideout in Syria.

If Washington won't bend, key Iraqi politicians believe the deal will never win parliament's approval. U.S. diplomats are studying the proposals, and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said a response is expected by Wednesday.

But some U.S. officials in Washington have privately expressed doubts about chances to reach an agreement before the U.N. mandate authorizing the U.S. mission expires at the end of next month.

Without an agreement or a new U.N. mandate, the U.S. military would have to suspend all security and assistance operations in Iraq.

Privately, many Iraqi lawmakers believe they still need the 145,000 U.S. troops because Iraq's own army and police aren't be ready to replace them. Some U.S. commanders privately doubt they would even be ready by 2012.

But many of the sectarian and ethnically based parties are reluctant to take a stand, fearing a backlash among Iraqis who are anxious to see an end to the U.S. presence.

The biggest Shiite party must also factor in the strong opposition of Shiite-dominated Iran, its patron even before the U.S.-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime in 2003.

For years the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which controls 30 of the 275 parliament seats, has carefully nurtured close ties not only with Iran but with the United States.

The party was founded in Iran by Iraqi Shiite exiles during Saddam's rule. After the 2003 invasion, the Supreme Council cooperated with the U.S. to solidify Shiite political dominance here.

Al-Maliki's own Shiite party, Dawa, the major Sunni bloc and many Shiite independent legislators have all been waiting for the Supreme Council to take a stand on the agreement before announcing their positions.

In the last three days, al-Maliki and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker have met separately with the head of the Supreme Council, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, presumably to lobby for the deal.

After meeting Thursday with al-Hakim, the prime minister told government television that "we don't call it a security pact but an agreement to withdraw the troops and organize their activities during the period of their presence in Iraq."

Some leading members of the Supreme Council have said privately they believe Iraq needs the agreement to shore up the security gains of the past 18 months.

But they also find themselves in a bind: supporting the agreement could brand them "traitors" and rejecting it would make them look like Iranian puppets.

The Supreme Council faces a strong challenge in southern Iraq by supporters of anti-U.S. Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who rejects the deal. Council members fear the Sadrists could use support for the deal against them in next year's provincial elections, threatening their main power base.

Council members believe they would fare better if the U.S. accepts the amendments.

"We support the amendments that the Iraqi Cabinet has approved for the proposed security agreement," Shiite cleric and council member Sadralddin al-Qubanji sad Friday.

If the Americans agree to the changes, then the draft "will be referred to the Iraqi parliament to approve it," he said.

Some U.S. officials say there is a chance that some of the Iraqi proposals could be accommodated. But demands for more control over American troops are a "red line" for the Bush administration and Congress.

Failure to win agreement would be a huge embarrassment for President Bush in the waning days of his administration that was largely defined by the war.
www.hughesnetnews)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 2, 2008 10:36 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

U.S. investments in Iraq in closed conf. session
November 1, 2008 - 11:19:59

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: A number of U.S. and Iraqi officials on Saturday held a closed session to discuss the participation of U.S. investors in the Iraqi market.

The session was held on the sidelines of a U.S.-Iraqi economic conference that opened earlier today and was attended by Aswat al-Iraq.

Earlier this morning, a U.S.-Iraqi economic conference opened in the capital Baghdad with the participation of high-ranking officials from both sides.

The conference, held at al-Rasheed Hotel in Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone, was attended by the deputy prime minister, Rafie al-Issawi, and the minister of finance, Baqir Jabr al-Zubeidi.

On Friday, the U.S. embassy in Baghdad announced that Deputy U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert M. Kimmitt, Deputy U.S. Commerce Secretary John J. Sullivan, Ambassador Ryan Crocker, and other U.S. officials would attend the conference.

The governor of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI), Sinan al-Shibibi, and the head of the National Authority for Investment, Ahmed Ridha, were among the participants.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 2, 2008 10:41 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US 'can have bases in north Iraq'
Agencies
Published: November 02, 2008, 21:02

Arbil: A top Iraqi Kurdish leader has said the US military could have bases in northern Iraq if Washington and Baghdad fail to sign the controversial security deal, a local newspaper reported on Sunday.

Massud Barzani, the president of northern Iraq's regional Kurdish administration, said that his government would "welcome" such a move, the Khabat, the newspaper run by Barzani's Kurdistan Democratic Party, quoted him as saying.

Meanwhile, Iraq has dispatched extra police to boost security along its border with Syria a week after a US military raid into the neighbouring country, an interior ministry spokesman said yesterday.

The additional forces, from western Anbar province, were sent to secure areas where foreign fighters are known to infiltrate Iraq, said Major General Abdul Karim Khalaf.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 2, 2008 11:09 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US agrees to Iraqi changes on security deal -- state press

Politics 11/3/2008 10:30:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Nov 3 (KUNA) -- A governmental Iraqi paper revealed that the United States agreed to most of the Iraqi changes on the security deal to be signed by the two countries.
Al-Sabah paper said Washington agreed to three out of five changes Baghdad demanded, but refused to change the article on immunity.
The article on withdrawal, however, will be changed to state that withdrawal of US forces from Iraq should be within 36 months from start of implementation of the security agreement, it added.
The security agreement will also be called the "agreement on withdrawal of US forces", the paper noted.
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani had expressed his optimism Sunday over the ability to seal the Baghdad-Washington security deal.
He told Al-Iraqiya television channel that if the United States agrees to the changes, the agreement will be "honorable".
Meanwhile, Member of Parliament Sami Al-Askari said that if the Iraqi government's changes are approved by the US, all parliamentary blocs will agree to it.
Spokesman of the Iraqi government Ali Al-Dabbagh said, Sunday, the US response concerning the agreement is expected after Tuesday's US Presidency elections.(end) ahh.ris KUNA 031030 Nov 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 3, 2008 11:01 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I found this morning on the IIF forum. It was posted there by Bambaboo. We must be getting close to movement on the Dinar because these articles are now coming out in rapid succession.
__________________________________________________________
11/02/08

Minister of Finance: the high prices caused by the misuse of the citizen of fiscal surpluses


Attributed the Iraqi Finance Minister Bayan Jabr on Sunday, to increase prices in the market recently to the misuse of the financial surplus to the citizens, noting that increased the number of zeros of the Iraqi dinar psychological issue has nothing to do with inflation at all.


Zubaidi said in an interview with "Uzmatik" that "increases the staff member received recently, which was delivered at once for a period of six months led to increased prices in the market," adding that "this is the misuse of the financial surplus to the citizen, who is Need to culture high and precise calculations in this regard. "


Zubaidi said "we are talking about two million, 500 thousand, a million and 800 thousand retired, and can imagine the amount of funds pumped into the market that will bring inflation."


The Iraqi parliament approved at the tenth month of April, peace starts with the salaries of 140 new dinars to those who do not have any certificate to ensure that the salaries of bachelor's degrees to more than 500 thousand dinars, in addition to the allocation of marital and transport and other benefits, with retroactive effect from the first The month of January.


The Finance Minister also pointed out that "in the light of the high price the Government has taken a decision in agreement with the International Monetary Fund to rein in inflation, requires a halt to increases in salaries for three months as of November last month, that the conduct of these increases again in January of the year Next 2009. "


Demanded Zubeidi citizens "by increasing their cultural awareness and to learn whether the savings in gold or through savings banks rather than the exchange of no justification", pointing out that "the presence of Shopping citizens is a serious slogan, may contribute to sabotage the economy", as described.


Meanwhile Minister of Finance said that " increased (?????) the number of zeros on the Iraqi dinar had nothing to do with the reduction in inflation increase or decrease the rate of exchange at all," adding that "the lifting of the zeros just a psychological, in addition to the lifting of zeros is at the heart of The work of the Central Bank's policy completely independent of any party. "


Zubeidi revealed that "the proposal was made by the Ministry of Finance to the Central Bank to lift three zeros from the Iraqi dinar, has been approved by the Central Bank," but he noted that "the implementation of such a proposal needed more study, discussion and printed a new currency."


The central bank issued a statement last week spoke of the long-term strategy aimed at improving the situation of the Iraqi currency through the deletion of three zeros, and the strengthening of regulations in line with payments made economic development in the country.
(http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 3, 2008 11:26 AM


Sara wrote:

President-to-be John McCain writes this morning on the issues,
and touches on Iraq among his points:

===

What We're Fighting For
Protectionism and tax hikes are wrong for the economy.
By JOHN MCCAIN
NOVEMBER 3, 2008

The presidential election occurs at a pivotal moment. Our nation is fighting two wars abroad, suffers from the greatest global financial crisis since the Great Depression, and is facing a painful recession. I believe in the greatness of America. I believe in our capacity to prosper, and to be safer and remain a beacon of light on the global stage. But we cannot spend the next four years as we have spent much of the last eight: waiting for our luck to change. We have to act immediately. We have to fight for it.

The institutions that we counted on -- Wall Street banks, our elected leaders in Washington -- failed us. We must reverse the corruption and arrogance that have overtaken these institutions, and we must place our trust in the hands of those who have never let us down, especially the American family and small businesses.

We need to grow our small businesses, not tax them. I will fight the Democrats' plans to redistribute the fruit of America's labor and turn our economy into a full-fledged disaster. I will cut taxes on families, seniors, savers and businesses. We need to double the child deduction, cut the capital gains tax, and keep jobs in America with a lower business tax.

I will make government finally live on a budget and enforce that discipline by the power of veto. I won't spend nearly a trillion dollars more of your money. I will impose a short-term spending freeze and rid the government of waste, duplication and fraud. And I will chart a different course than the administration and Barack Obama and not spend your money just to bail out Wall Street bankers and brokers. I have a plan to protect the value of homes and get them rising again by refinancing mortgages so your neighbor won't default and further drag down the value of your house.

I will end three decades of failed energy policies; stop sending $700 billion to countries that oppose American values and finance our enemies; and drill for oil and natural gas. We must strengthen incentives for all energy alternatives -- nuclear, clean coal, wind, solar and tide. We will encourage the manufacture of hybrid, flex fuel and electric automobiles. We will lower the cost of energy, and create millions of new jobs.

I will not impose "one size fits all" health care on families and small businesses through expensive mandates and fines. I will bring down the skyrocketing cost of health care with competition and choice, reform the insurance market to be fair, and allow you to keep the same health plan if you change jobs or choose to stay home.

One in five jobs in the U.S. depends on trade and I will fight the threat to those jobs from Democrat plans for isolationism. I won't make it harder to sell our goods overseas and kill more jobs. I will open new markets to goods made in America and make sure our trade is free and fair. And I'll make sure we help workers who've lost a job that won't come back find a new one that won't go away.

Senator Obama wants to raise taxes and restrict trade. The last time America did that in a bad economy it led to the Great Depression.

While most Americans are rightly concerned with the economic crisis, a world of pressing national security challenges also awaits the next president.

The gains our troops have made in the past 18 months in Iraq could be lost if we pull our troops out prematurely and regardless of the conditions on the ground. We have also dealt devastating blows to al Qaeda, especially in Iraq, but terrorists have found sanctuary on the Pakistan frontier among those trying to topple governments in both Kabul and Islamabad.

Afghanistan is reaching a crisis point, just as Iraq did in 2006. As an early supporter of the surge strategy in Iraq, I know that turning around this situation will require more than just increased troop levels. We also need a new, comprehensive strategy, one that integrates civil and military efforts and engages with various Afghan tribes.

Other major threats loom on the horizon: the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs; aggressive Russian behavior toward its neighbors; Venezuelan adventurism; genocide in Darfur; and global warming. And those are only the dangers that we know of. Just as few expected the Russians to invade Georgia, we remain unaware of precisely where our next crisis will erupt, or when. The only certainty is that, as Joe Biden guaranteed, the tests facing the next president will be more severe if he is seen as weak in national security leadership.

I have devoted my life to safeguarding America. Former Secretary of State George Shultz compares diplomacy to tending a garden -- if you want to see relationships flourish, you have to tend them. I have done that, by traveling the world and establishing ties with everyone from dissidents to heads of state. There is great need for American leadership in the world, and I understand that only by exercising that leadership with grace and wisdom can we be successful in safeguarding our interests.

When I am president, I will not offer up unconditional summit meetings with dangerous dictators, nor will I foreclose diplomatic tools that serve our interests. I will respect our trade agreements with our allies, not unilaterally renounce them. I will close the Guantanamo Bay prison and ban torture. I will expand our armed forces and transform our civil and military agencies to win the struggle against violent Islamic extremism.

I believe that America is an exceptional country, one that demands exceptional leadership. After the difficulties of the last eight years, Americans are hungry for change and they deserve it. My career has been dedicated to the security and prosperity of America and that of every nation that seeks to live in freedom. It's time to get our country, and our world, back on track.

Mr. McCain is the Republican nominee for president.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122567508079392051.html?mod=todays_us_opinion

-- November 3, 2008 11:34 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Does anyone know where I can find the U-Tube video of the interview that Obama was giving I think to abc news-- where Obama is asked about whether McCain attacked his christian faith and Obama's response was that McCain has not attacked "his muslim faith." I have a friend who doesn't believe the interview exists.

Hoping you can help me out.

Laura Parker

-- November 3, 2008 2:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Arab Paper: ‘Obama’s Historic Intifada’ Allows Islam to ‘Impose its Point of View on World’
By Warner Todd Huston
November 3, 2008

From Beirut, Chawki Freiha reports* on a provocative editorial that appeared in the Al Quds Al Arabi newspaper on November 3 written by Abdelbari Atwan, the first journalist to have met with Osama bin Laden. Titled “Obama’s Historic Intifada,” Atwan praises the probable election of Barack Obama to the White House and claims that with Obama installed in Washington, Islam will be able to “impose its point of view” on the world.

As to be expected, Atwan’s editorial decries the Bush administration because it is “controlled by Zionists… whose objective is to destroy the Arab world and Islam.” Displaying true Muslim conspiratorial thinking, Atwan further claims that all Middle Eastern countries have been under the control Israel, even though the Arabs have the “largest wealth” in the world in petrodollars.

The most alarming part of Atwan’s editorial, however, is that he imagines that with a President Obama in office, Islam will be able to use its oil wealth to control the world.
Quote:

We have the largest wealth and could save the world from the crisis. If these resources are properly harnessed, we could impose our point of view and serve our cause… The conditions are now fulfilled for the Arabs use their wealth to obtain a U.S. promise favorable and correct historical mistakes committed in Palestine.

==end quote==

Atwan is merely echoing the feeling in the Mid East that a Barack Obama will look upon them with favor or will be so weak that he will not be able to stop Islam from “imposing” its “point of view” upon the world.

If Joe Biden is right that a new president Obama will be “tested in the first 60 days” of his term, it seems as if certain forces in the Mid East are poised to do just that. But, it is obvious that many in the Mid East imagine Obama stands in agreement with their goals in the first place.

A president Obama is no friend to Israel or the west, at least as far as Abdelbari Atwan and many of his comrades are concerned.

The most pressing question that Americans have is: should we support a man for President of the United States that our enemies imagine to be on their side?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/11/03/arab-paper-obama-s-historic-intifada-allows-islam-impose-its-poi

-- November 3, 2008 2:57 PM


Sara wrote:

-- November 3, 2008 3:04 PM


Sara wrote:

Al-Qaida calls for a "crushing strike" in Iraq if Obama wins.
QUOTE:

The Oct. 23 post also called for launching a "crushing strike" after the election.

===

Al-Qaida sites show support for Obama
Monitor says terrorists wants Democrat to pull troops so they can 'claim victory'
Posted: November 01, 2008
By Ryan Mauro

The call this week by an al-Qaida leader for Allah to "humiliate" President Bush and the Republican Party in Tuesday's election was not the first tacit endorsement of Democrat Barack Obama by the terrorist network.

A contributor to a major al-Qaida website last week said the terrorist group will "let the Democrats win the presidential elections, and Obama will take it," according to Joseph Shahda, an Arabic translator who monitors radical Islamic websites.

Obama's "goal is to withdraw from Iraq" over a period of time, but "he will be forced to withdraw his forces from Iraq at a much earlier time," said the Oct. 23 post, written under the name "Wissam" on the Al-Hesbah website. Shahda first posted his translation on the popular forum FreeRepublic.com.

Shahada told WND the Al-Hesbah website is one of four main al-Qaida-related forums.

"Overall there are many more posters on these forums who want McCain defeated, because they want Obama to withdraw the U.S. troops from Iraq so the terrorists will claim victory," Shahda said.

The Oct. 23 post also called for launching a "crushing strike" after the election.

Shahda explained that all al-Qaida press releases, videos, audios and speeches are first posted on the terrorist forums.

He noted that a Q&A session in January with al-Qaida's No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was based on questions posed by contributors to the four major websites.

In the video released Thursday, an al-Qaida leader believed to be living in Afghanistan or Pakistan, Abu Yahya al-Libi, declared, "O Allah, humiliate Bush and his party, O Lord of the Worlds, degrade and defy him."

Libi also called for the wrath of Allah to be brought against Bush, equating him with past tyrants, according to Reuters.

The title of a Washington Post story Oct. 22 suggested the forums indicated significant al-Qaida support for John McCain.

But the story, "On Al-Qaeda Web Sites, Joy Over U.S. Crisis, Support for McCain," cited only one posting declaring a Republican victory would benefit the terrorist network.

"Al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming election," the Post quoted from the website posting, which also stated an attack around the time of the election could help McCain win.

"It will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida. Al-Qaida will then succeed in exhausting America," it said.

But Shahda said many postings on the Al-Hesbah website mocked the Washington Post article.

"Members were making fun of the Washington Post for not distinguishing between a member's opinion and an al-Qaida official statement," he said.

Shahda said that in addition to the Oct. 23 post stating al-Qaida will let Democrats win, there have been previous comments on al-Qaida-linked Internet forums speaking in favor of Obama that the media has not covered.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79660

-- November 3, 2008 3:11 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama:

He wants to heavily fine coal operators in order to get “billions” for R&D on alternatives, which will send the coal industry reeling and energy prices skyrocketing...

Energy prices skyrocketing??
(The bankrupting statement is at about 2:17 in the video, taxing coal operators "billions" at 2:30.)

===

Video of Obama, coal bankruptcy
November 3, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, we featured the audio, and today, we have the 4-minute video clip of Barack Obama talking about bankrupting new coal plants in the US. Obama complained yesterday that his comments got taken out of context. Here we have the entire answer on coal, and the full context really doesn’t help Obama:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwBbl6RoIs

This still consists of Obama sending “price signals” that discourage the use of coal. He does say that getting rid of coal altogether is an illusion, but he’s obviously opposed to expanding its use or even keeping it at current levels. He wants to heavily fine coal operators in order to get “billions” for R&D on alternatives, which will send the coal industry reeling and energy prices skyrocketing, as Obama himself pledges later in the same interview.

Yesterday, Sarah Palin demanded to know why the San Francisco Chronicle sat on this story for so long. The Chronicle responded by noting that the video has been available on their website since January 17th of this year. However, the Chronicle never reported on these quotes from Obama, and these statements certainly seem noteworthy enough to include in any look at Obama’s policies on energy.

Even more oddly, they never provided a transcript of the interview, an almost automatic step for any meeting between national political candidates and the editors of a newspaper. Why didn’t the Chronicle transcribe their meeting in the nine months between then and now? Did they realize how damaging this could be to Obama’s hopes in the middle of the primaries and chose to quietly shelve the interview?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/03/video-of-obama-coal-bankruptcy/

-- November 3, 2008 3:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Fox/Rasmussen battleground polls: Tightening
November 3, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Allahpundit covered the national polling from Fox and Rasmussen in his earlier post, and now a somewhat contradictory set of numbers have come out of the battleground states. The state polls show some hope for McCain yet in the states he needs to win tomorrow. Fox has yet to write its story, so let’s just peruse the toplines ourselves from the data.

- Colorado - Obama leads 51/47, after last week’s 50/46. Within the MOE, but not much movement.
- Florida - McCain lead 50/49, after trailing 51/47 last week. Definitely moving towards McCain.
- Missouri - Dead heat at 49 all, after Obama led 48/47 last week. Movement to McCain.
- North Carolina - McCain 50/49, after being up 49/48 last week.
- Ohio - Tied at 49, after Obama led 49/45 last week. Movement to McCain.
- Virginia - Obama leads 51/47, same as last week.

Interestingly, Fox didn’t poll in Pennsylvania, or the results are not yet ready. In any case, those states with movement show it going to McCain, and he’s no longer trailing anywhere except Colorado and Virginia. Undecideds are going to McCain, and the battlegrounds appear to be firming up red. Of course, these are all states Bush carried in 2004, and to balance possible losses in Colorado and Virginia — still too close to call — McCain will need Pennsylvania.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/03/foxrasmussen-battleground-polls-tightening/

-- November 3, 2008 10:21 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and all,

The story on Obama being against coal plants for energy will get West Virginia, Pennsyvlania, parts of Ohio and possibly Virginia votes to McCain. These states deal in coal mining and there are coal plants on the Ohio River. My husband used to work in the coal plant for Cincinnati Gas and Electric in the 70's. The utility is now called Cinenergy now. I just don't see coal mining people voting their livelyhood to Obama after this story broke.

The question is how much this story will help McCain. Lord only knows!

Laura Parker

-- November 4, 2008 1:04 AM


Carole wrote:

Laura,

Maybe if u look up the interview as with Stefanopleus you might be able to find it. Tell your friend, it was a classic moment she needs to witness.

Just home from Nevada campaign efforts. EXHAUSTED! This was much easier a few years ago.

I do have some interesting things to share later.

God Bless,
Carole

-- November 4, 2008 3:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Since today is election day I thought I would share the following. If someone reading is thinking about voting for Obama please read this first.
__________________________________________________________
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 5:37 AM
Subject: A Clear and "Present" Danger, by Capt. Allen Clark!


Dear Family and friends:

Please read the following Urgent Message from my Friend:
The Honorable Capt. Allen Clark, U. S. Army (Ret.)

It is almost over, finally! Wasn't sure I would still be alive and kicking by the time this presidential campaigning would be concluded. I have already voted so what I am going to write about is my opining about the person for whom I did not vote, Senator Obama.

Who am I and why do I think my opinion matters? Trained at West Point, arguably the best leadership training institute in the world, and commissioned as a regular army officer, it was my privilege to serve the cause of freedom in far off Vietnam. In fulfilling my duty to my country I paid a heavy price in that I lost both my legs below the knees when I was occupying a piece of terrain that a mortar shell decided to land on.

Survive I did and have gone on to a modicum of success(and failure) in government, politics, civic service, and business in which I have observed and witnessed many different "leaders" in a variety of situations. I daresay I consider myself at my ripe old age of 66 to be a pretty good judgment of the qualities necessary in a variety of arenas for successful "leadership". Until one month ago I was fairly well detached from politics, knew my choice, Senator McCain, but was not too emotionally involved. However beginning about one month ago I had had all I could take for the so-called media favorite to be our next leader of the free world.

I literally spent twelve hours on Halloween doing some very intense research on Senator Obama and people, he is scarier than all the costumes I saw last night put together. I will tell you exactly why if you have not voted yet and care to hear my analysis. The rhetoric is all about home mortgages, tax policies, and stock prices but my fellow citizens we face significantly more important long-term challenges in the arena of national security which is my most important issue.

Let us start with the threats we are facing in the world today. Admiral McConnell, our top intelligence officer said in a speech just two days ago "The next U.S. president will govern in an era of increasing international instability, including a heightened risk of terrorist attacks in the near future, long-term prospects of regional conflicts and diminished U.S. dominance across the globe". I trust his analysis and I want the best of our two candidates running to be in the Oval Office as these threats raise their ugly heads. For the past fifteen months I have studied four to six hours each day the threat coming from our ideological enemies motivated by "political" Islam. It is not just a "War on Terror"(a violent overt jihad) but in the countries of the free world it is a "civilizational jihad" to install Islamic Republics. Senator McCain has publicly called it "Radical Islamic Terrorism". Senator Obama has been silent on identifying the ideology. Come along with me as we pursue perhaps why he doesn't. Either he does not understand the nature of this threat which is possible since he seems to have been clueless as to the backgrounds and true beliefs of his "neighbors" or he is such a careful "politically correct" politician that he is careful not to offend. I assert that under either scenario he is not qualified at this point in our history to assume the mantle of our presidency because either he has not done his homework to learn about the threat or he is a typical "politician" who will not really be a change agent in this arena but will be appeaser of the jihadists(covert and overt). McCain calls it a "war" but to Obama we are to blame. Give me a break! The jihadists are not jobless, oppressed masses. The 9/11 hijackers mainly came from privileged Arabic backgrounds. They were motivated by ideology. Where one develops their ideology is important in analyzing Obama and I will develop this also.

This is a cold cruel world out here. How many of you have seen the videos of the beheadings perpetrated by the jihadists? These are not choirboys. Putin, Ahmadinejad, Assad, and the leaders of Hezbollah and Hamas are not easy people to deal with. I want a tough guy to face up to them.

A retired psychiatrist friend of mine(just a guy I know in my neighborhood) sent me an analysis of Senator Obama. He was basically abandoned three times, first by his biological father, then by his adopted father, then by his mother. He has made a successful psychological adaptation to this wounding by being a successful appeaser, who gains acceptance through suppression of anger and confrontation in order not to risk rejection. He is distinctly incapable of rejecting those who have accepted and nurtured him such as his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and William Ayers, et al. The risk to our country is that as our leader he would seek to appease other world leaders to the point of capitulation.

I know a bit about qualities and characteristics of good and poor leaders. He is always hesitant in taking a stand as if he is the typical politician waiting for the polls and watching which way public opinion is going rather than taking a stand and leading public opinion. True leaders lead from the front. They do not follow the tide. Initially he would not take a stand on the Russian incursion into Georgia nor on the bailout. If he cannot make up his mind on these issues, can we depend upon him to be the strong forceful leader we need when we are confronted by our enemies or international events as his own vice presidential running mate, Senator Biden, said would happen in the first six months of his presidency?

I had waffles for breakfast this morning and I thought about the constant "waffling" Obama accomplishes all the time. He makes a speech and his advisors straighten him out and he corrects it the next day or completely changes his positions. He is a master at 'parsing" his words. Lawyers are trained to do that so we expect that from them but not from leaders. They need to be clear and constant. He has had as many opinions about the war in Iraq as Liz Taylor has had husbands. We need a leader who is not afraid to be decisive. Are we prepared for our leader to be a man who voted "present" 129 times in his Illinois Senate votes? Either he is afraid to make a decision or he was not interested in leaving a "paper trail" on votes because he had this "Potomac Fever" long long ago or he is a typical politician not a leader. We elect our leaders to represent us and vote. Apparently he did not take that responsibility very seriously. If he were our leader, he cannot sit back and vote "present" as President. As Harry Truman said, "The buck stops here". Is Obama ready as a leader for Prime Time slot in our country. Senator Biden said on the primary trail he was not. Of course he has had immense leadership experience since then. Excuse my sarcasm.

It was stated by former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton that Obama is seen by world leaders as "...soft, untested, weak, and very naive". Good start? Our competitors and adversaries worldwide are not interested in our interests, only theirs. I have the idea Obama is looking to be "The One" for the entire world rather than my "land of the free because of our brave".

He is obtaining some wonderful endorsements and not just from the majority of our newspapers. He is being endorsed by some interesting characters, unfortunately for what I believe in, they are people like the Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, an Adviser to the Syrian president, and the number 2 Hezbollah party chief. Does this not bother us? Foreign terrorists and enemies of free world virtues endorsing in OUR race for president. Maybe after Obama becomes President there can be some wonderful group hug pictures with these guys. Maybe they can all can learn the words to Kumbaya. Excuse my sarcasm again. I guess my emotions sometimes add to my logic and analysis.

On to national defense. I believe he would seriously damage our ability to protect ourselves. Study yourself what he wants to do about missile defense and the military. THIS ELECTION IS AT ITS BASE A DECISION ON WHO CAN BEST LEAD US IN A TIME OF EXTRAORDINARY INTERNATIONAL CHALLENGES. Obama scares me with his lack of any leadership positions ever in his background. Community organizer was always about prepping his political landing zones. He has never "led" anything!

I just read this week an interview by Buck Revell, who had been a high level leader in the FBI until his retirement. The bottom line by Revell was this, "I find it very troublesome that he showed the lack of judgment to disassociate himself from the radical fringe, whether it be the Islamists or the social activists such as the Weather Undergrounfd element....Guilt by association may be unfair but then when one is campaigning to become the leader of the free world, a bit of judgment is critical-and we are judged by the company we keep....certainly we would not have hired during my tenure a person that had the background, associates, and relationships tha tObama has had over his adult life". Can you believe this? We are about possibly to hire a man to be our president that probably could not receive the security clearance that many of the military people must receive to protect our freedoms and that he might send off to fight and die for the policies he will adopt and oversee!

Allen Clark
Author, Wounded Soldier, Healing Warrior
Published February 2007 by Zenith Press
Bookstores and Amazon now
www.woundedsoldierhealingwarrior.com

Founder
Combat Faith Lay Ministry
Especially for Veterans/Military
www.combatfaith.com
http://combatfaithministry.blogspot.com/

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 4, 2008 9:03 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

“Political reasons” prevent cancellation of Iraq’s debts to Gulf states
November 4, 2008 - 12:32:16

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: An Iraqi Ministry of Finance source on Tuesday said that Iraq’s debts to the Gulf countries have not been written off thus far as a result of “political reasons.”

“Efforts that have been made by the Iraqi Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) throughout the past four years have resulted in the conditional cancellation of Iraqi debts owed to the Paris Club, totaling $140 million,” the source told Aswat al-Iraq.

“Debts owed to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait remain though,” the source added.

The source did not reveal the amount of debts Iraq owes to the Gulf countries, adding that the debts have not been wiped off thus far due to “political reasons
(www.en.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 4, 2008 9:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Central Bank’s Top Manager Urges to Strengthen Role of International Financial Institutions
Iraq Central Bank’s Top Manager Urges to Strengthen Role of International Financial Institutions
Trend Capital News Agency - [11/4/2008]


The efforts to strengthen the international financial institutions must be consolidated so that to improve the global financial system, said Warren Coats, Senior Monetary Policy Advisor to the Central Bank of Iraq and Director of the Cayman Islands Monetary Authority, IMF retired.

“A useful outcome of this gathering would be support for consolidating responsibilities for global coordination in strengthened International Financial Institutions that are more broadly representative—the IMF, World Bank, Financial Stability Forum (FSF), and the international standard setters—and away from the Gs (3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 20, 24),” Coats said to TrendCapital via e-mail on 3 November.

On 15 November, Washington will host an anti-crisis summit to involve the G20 countries. The cause of the crisis and the estimate to the measures taken to overpass the crisis will be the key topic of discussion. G20 seek an agreement on the principles of the reforms which are required to prevent a repeated crisis.

According to Coats, regulation of globalized financial markets needs careful refinement, not radical change and this cannot be achieved quickly by a political gathering in the midst of a panic.

“These ongoing efforts are more likely to improve the system than ad hoc proposals of the G- 20,” he said.

Coats believes the FSF should add China, India, Brazil and Russia to its membership.
(www.iraqdirectory.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 4, 2008 9:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


US agrees to three changes in security pact with Iraq

The United States has agreed to three out of the five amendments that Iraq made to a long-term security pact between the two countries, the semi-official Iraqi al-Sabah newspaper reported on Monday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 4, 2008 9:30 AM


Sara wrote:

The Scripture the Lord gave me last night concerning the vote today:

Jos 3:5 And Joshua said to the people, Sanctify yourselves: for to morrow the LORD will do wonders among you.

Sara.

-- November 4, 2008 10:38 AM


Sara wrote:

"Because many counties in Virginia failed to mail absentee ballots in time to our men and women in uniform stationed overseas, service members are being disenfranchised because they are unable to return their ballots before the November 4 deadline"

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McCain campaign sues over overseas military ballots
Published on HamptonRoads.com
RICHMOND

John McCain's presidential campaign filed a federal suit Monday against Virginia seeking to extend by 10 days the deadline for the state's acceptance of military members' federal absentee ballots.

The McCain suit seeks an injunction to extend the date by which federal write-in absentee ballots must be received to be counted. The current deadline is today, but the suit seeks to have the date changed to Nov. 14.

"Because many counties in Virginia failed to mail absentee ballots in time to our men and women in uniform stationed overseas, service members are being disenfranchised because they are unable to return their ballots before the November 4 deadline," campaign spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said in a written statement about the suit, which is scheduled to be heard in Williams' courtroom at 1:30 p.m. today.

Chesapeake, Suffolk and Virginia Beach are among the localities cited in the lawsuit as those that mailed absentee ballots overseas in late September. The suit argues that service members didn't have enough time to cast their votes and return them stateside.

Estimates range between federal agencies, but systemic impediments to overseas voting are seen as a hindrance that keeps service members stationed abroad from voting with the same success rate as the domestic population.

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/11/mccain-campaign-sues-over-overseas-military-ballots

http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648

-- November 4, 2008 11:48 AM


Sara wrote:

Reasons Christians Should Vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwLY_HRt-AM

-- November 4, 2008 12:13 PM


Sara wrote:

Voting Intimidation By Black Panthers In Philadelphia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeD1RcJjAg

QUOTE:

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As I walked up to the door, two gentlemen in black Panther garb - one of em brandishing a night stick (!) - standing immeditely in front of the door....
I went inside and found the poll watchers. They said they'd been here for about an hour and they told us not to come outside because a black man is gonna win this election no matter what..

-- November 4, 2008 1:32 PM


Sara wrote:

The Latest From Inside McCain HQ
November 04, 2008 11:30 AM ET | James Pethokoukis | Permanent Link | Print

I just talked to one of my best Team McCain sources who told me that heading into today all the key battleground polls were moving hard and fast in their direction. The source, hardly a perma-optimist, thinks it will be a long night, but that McCain is going to win. So add this with the new Battleground poll (Obama +1.9 only) and the rising stock market...

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/11/4/the-latest-from-inside-mccain-hq.html

-- November 4, 2008 2:48 PM


Sara wrote:

A Philly man tells a CNN reporter that he voted a couple of times today.
The CNN reporter says, "I think that's against the law but that's OK."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZwng4omanI

-- November 4, 2008 5:06 PM


Sara wrote:

UPDATED: McCain’s Final Internal Polls - The Thug Loses Big
November 4th, 2008

These purport to be the final internal polls from the McCain camp. I don’t know if they are accurate, I suspect they are. These numbers portend a blowout for McCain.

PA: MCCAIN 52%, Obama 40%, Undecided 6%

NJ: Obama 47%, McCain 45%, Undecided 7%

MI: McCain 45%, Obama 44%, Undecided 7%

VA: McCain 53%, Obama 42%, Undecided 3%

CO: McCain 50%, Obama 44%, Undecided 4%

MO: McCain 49%, Obama 42%, Undecided 7%

FL: McCain 52%, Obama 44%, Undecided 3%

Today the media will be in BIG LIE mode. Nothing will be true or accurate. They have worked for eight years for this day, and they will harness all of their power to dispirit McCain supporters and pump the Obamabots. There will be a very stiff headwind, but push on, ignore everything else and go vote.

Thanks to Doc for the tip.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=3852

-- November 4, 2008 7:38 PM


Anonymous wrote:

now what do you have to say SARA

-- November 4, 2008 9:42 PM


Anonymous wrote:

this wasn't even close. get well armed because now we have prez obuma

-- November 4, 2008 11:10 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Anonymous and Board;

It is unfortunate that the most liberal democrat in the U.S. Senate is now President elect; it will not be long until controversy and scandal will rock his Presidency. There are still questions about his citizenship lingering as well as a needed investigation as to the origins of his campaign contributions. I look forward to the hope of impeachment during the next four years. It saddens me the American people are so stupid and so easily beguiled to vote for this liar.

During his Presidency we shall see another terror attack on this country. Obama will be caught unaware and confused in how to respond since at heart he is an appeaser. The Republican party must take this time to reorganize and reclaim a message of smaller government, less taxes, and traditional values.

Enjoy your temporary victory for it will not last long. Many of his disciples will be disappointed. Moreover, I think we as investors in the Iraqi Dinar will be disappointed. This is not good for our investment.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- November 4, 2008 11:20 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Congratulations America! Hopefully, (good) change is now in the air.

BritishKnite.

-- November 5, 2008 12:47 AM


DinarAdmin wrote:

-- November 5, 2008 1:35 AM