Dinar Discussion AUGUST 2008

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Sara wrote:

Analysis: US now winning Iraq war that seemed lost
By ROBERT BURNS and ROBERT H. REID
07.26.08

BAGHDAD - The United States is now winning the war that two years ago seemed lost.

Limited, sometimes sharp fighting and periodic terrorist bombings in Iraq are likely to continue, possibly for years. But the Iraqi government and the U.S. now are able to shift focus from mainly combat to mainly building the fragile beginnings of peace - a transition that many found almost unthinkable as recently as one year ago.

Despite the occasional bursts of violence, Iraq has reached the point where the insurgents, who once controlled whole cities, no longer have the clout to threaten the viability of the central government.

That does not mean the war has ended or that U.S. troops have no role in Iraq. It means the combat phase finally is ending. The new phase focuses on training the Iraqi army and police, restraining the flow of illicit weaponry from Iran, supporting closer links between Baghdad and local governments, pushing the integration of former insurgents into legitimate government jobs and assisting in rebuilding the economy.

Scattered battles go on, especially against al-Qaida holdouts north of Baghdad. But organized resistance, with the steady drumbeat of bombings, kidnappings, assassinations and ambushes that once rocked the capital daily, has all but ceased.

This amounts to more than a lull in the violence. It reflects a fundamental shift in the outlook for the Sunni minority, which held power under Saddam Hussein. They launched the insurgency five years ago. They now are either sidelined or have switched sides to cooperate with the Americans in return for money and political support.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told The Associated Press this past week there are early indications that senior leaders of al-Qaida may be considering shifting their main focus from Iraq to the war in Afghanistan.

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, told the AP on Thursday that the insurgency as a whole has withered to the point where it is no longer a threat to Iraq's future.

"Very clearly, the insurgency is in no position to overthrow the government or, really, even to challenge it," Crocker said. "It's actually almost in no position to try to confront it. By and large, what's left of the insurgency is just trying to hang on."

Shiite militias, notably the Mahdi Army of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, have lost their power bases in Baghdad, Basra and other major cities. An important step was the routing of Shiite extremists in the Sadr City slums of eastern Baghdad this spring - now a quiet though not fully secure district.

Al-Sadr and top lieutenants are now in Iran. Still talking of a comeback, they are facing major obstacles, including a loss of support among a Shiite population weary of war and no longer as terrified of Sunni extremists as they were two years ago.

Despite the favorable signs, U.S. commanders are leery of proclaiming victory or promising that the calm will last.

The premature declaration by the Bush administration of "Mission Accomplished" in May 2003 convinced commanders that the best public relations strategy is to promise little, and couple all good news with the warning that "security is fragile" and that the improvements, while encouraging, are "not irreversible."

Iraq still faces a mountain of problems: sectarian rivalries, power struggles within the Sunni and Shiite communities, Kurdish-Arab tensions, corruption. Anyone could rekindle widespread fighting.

But the underlying dynamics in Iraqi society that blew up the U.S. military's hopes for an early exit, shortly after the fall of Baghdad in April 2003, have changed in important ways in recent months.

Systematic sectarian killings have all but ended in the capital, in large part because of tight security and a strategy of walling off neighborhoods purged of minorities in 2006.

That has helped establish a sense of normalcy in the streets of the capital. People are expressing a new confidence in their own security forces, which in turn are exhibiting a newfound assertiveness with the insurgency largely in retreat.

Statistics show violence at a four-year low. The monthly American death toll appears to be at its lowest of the war - four killed in action so far this month as of Friday, compared with 66 in July a year ago. From a daily average of 160 insurgent attacks in July 2007, the average has plummeted to about two dozen a day this month. On Wednesday the nationwide total was 13.

Beyond that, there is something in the air in Iraq this summer.

In Baghdad, parks are filled every weekend with families playing and picnicking with their children. That was unthinkable only a year ago, when the first, barely visible signs of a turnaround emerged.

Now a moment has arrived for the Iraqis to try to take those positive threads and weave them into a lasting stability.

The questions facing both Americans and Iraqis are: What kinds of help will the country need from the U.S. military, and for how long? The questions will take on greater importance as the U.S. presidential election nears, with one candidate pledging a troop withdrawal and the other insisting on staying.

Iraqi authorities have grown dependent on the U.S. military after more than five years of war. While they are aiming for full sovereignty with no foreign troops on their soil, they do not want to rush. In a similar sense, the Americans fear that after losing more than 4,100 troops, the sacrifice could be squandered.

U.S. commanders say a substantial American military presence will be needed beyond 2009. But judging from the security gains that have been sustained over the first half of this year - as the Pentagon withdrew five Army brigades sent as reinforcements in 2007 - the remaining troops could be used as peacekeepers more than combatants.

As a measure of the transitioning U.S. role, Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond says that when he took command of American forces in the Baghdad area about seven months ago he was spending 80 percent of his time working on combat-related matters and about 20 percent on what the military calls "nonkinetic" issues, such as supporting the development of Iraqi government institutions and humanitarian aid.

Now Hammond estimates those percentage have been almost reversed. For several hours one recent day, for example, Hammond consulted on water projects with a Sunni sheik in the Radwaniyah area of southwest Baghdad, then spent time with an Iraqi physician/entrepreneur in the Dora district of southern Baghdad - an area, now calm, that in early 2007 was one of the capital's most violent zones.

"We're getting close to something that looks like an end to mass violence in Iraq," says Stephen Biddle, an analyst at the Council of Foreign Relations who has advised Petraeus on war strategy. Biddle is not ready to say it's over, but he sees the U.S. mission shifting from fighting the insurgents to keeping the peace.

Although Sunni and Shiite extremists are still around, they have surrendered the initiative and have lost the support of many ordinary Iraqis. That can be traced to an altered U.S. approach to countering the insurgency - a Petraeus-driven move to take more U.S. troops off their big bases and put them in Baghdad neighborhoods where they mixed with ordinary Iraqis and built a new level of trust.

Army Col. Tom James, a brigade commander who is on his third combat tour in Iraq, explains the new calm this way:

"We've put out the forest fire. Now we're dealing with pop-up fires."

It's not the end of fighting. It looks like the beginning of a perilous peace.

Maj. Gen. Ali Hadi Hussein al-Yaseri, the chief of patrol police in the capital, sees the changes.

"Even eight months ago, Baghdad was not today's Baghdad," he says.

EDITOR'S NOTE - Robert Burns is AP's chief military reporter, and Robert Reid is AP's chief of bureau in Baghdad. Reid has covered the war from his post in Iraq since the U.S. invasion in March 2003. Burns, based in Washington, has made 21 reporting trips to Iraq; on his latest during July, Burns spent nearly three weeks in central and northern Iraq, observing military operations and interviewing both U.S. and Iraqi officers.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/07/26/ap5256890.html

-- August 1, 2008 7:31 AM


Sara wrote:

The Associated Press Admits that the US is winning the war!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lROml502U

-- August 1, 2008 7:32 AM


Sara wrote:

I greatly respect Michael Yon.
This missive of his, as others, rings true.

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As Iraqis stop living in fear, end of Iraq war is at hand
BY MICHAEL YON
Sunday, July 20th 2008

'The war in Iraq is over. We won. Which means the Iraqi people won."

When I wrote this on my Web site a few days ago, I set off a mini-firestorm. Perhaps because I have spent more time embedded with combat troops in Iraq than any journalist I know - and have interviewed countless Iraqis and members of the coalition military.

But I stand by my words, just as I stood by my assertion of February 2005 that Iraq was in a state of civil war, and later understood that Al Qaeda was its proximate cause. Those statements went against the vested interests of both Bush supporters who didn't want to admit how bad the situation was in Iraq, and war critics, who didn't want to admit that much of it was Al Qaeda's fault.

Back then, both sides brought out their dictionaries and muddied the water by arguing semantics: What exactly do you mean by a civil war? What exactly do you mean by Al Qaeda?

So I will be very clear what I mean when I say we have won the war. A counterinsurgency is won when the government's legitimacy is no longer threatened by the insurgents, the government is able to protect its own people and the people are participating in the government. In Iraq, all three conditions apply.

As early as July 2007, I was saying the surge was succeeding. Yes, the Sunni tribes were repulsed by Al Qaeda's cruelty and turned to fight against the terrorists. And Shiite leader Moqtada al-Sadr agreed to a ceasefire. Yet these developments came about as a direct result of the surge and the awakening in Al-Anbar Province.

The surge also made it possible for the government of Iraq and the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) to become effective. This year, offensives in Basra and Baghdad's Sadr City showed that the Shiite-majority government could take on Shiite militias. And while there were some defections and other problems in both campaigns, the ISF performed very capably. Sure, they had American support. But the fact that Iraqi troops liberated Iraqi neighborhoods went a long way to demonstrating the growing proficiency of the ISF and the legitimacy of the Iraqi government.

The sectarian violence is now mostly over. Al Qaeda has been pushed out of most of its urban enclaves and is now being chased into the hills. Even more important, Al Qaeda has been thoroughly discredited in Iraq. Similarly, now that the civil war no longer justifies their existence, the Shiite militias are largely seen as criminal groups rather than protectors or liberators.

The Iraqi government has reached 15 of the 18 benchmarks set by the U.S. Congress to measure security, political and economic progress. Ten of 18 provinces have been turned over to provincial Iraqi control, with the other eight provinces expected to be turned over by the end of the year. Violence is down to levels not seen since 2004.

There is still fighting in Iraq. But while there remain some terrorists at large, now we are truly fighting "the dead-enders."

The center of gravity in this war has always been the Iraqi people. And when you talk to them, as I have over the past three and a half years, you realize that victory is at hand. They no longer live in fear. Despite sectarian conflicts that are now political rather than military in nature, the feeling of Iraqi nationalism is palpable. Yes, they are Shiites and Sunnis and Kurds, but they are also Iraqis. Just like we are Floridians and New Yorkers, but also Americans.

Relations between Iraqis and Americans are very good and continue to improve. This does not mean that we will always agree on every issue. The Status of Forces Agreement, for instance, is particularly nettlesome, and the fact that the Iraqis are hanging tough in negotiations shows how confident the Maliki government is about its own sovereignty. Good for them.

We should keep some troop presence in Iraq to continue supporting the ISF in its peacekeeping mission. There will still be sporadic violence and even spectacular attacks. But I believe that by the end of the year, barring some unexpected setback, even the most ardent war critics will have to admit the obvious: The war is over. We won.

Yon, a former Green Beret, is author of the book "Moment of Truth in Iraq" and writes at www.michaelyon-online.com.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/07/20/2008-07-20_as_iraqis_stop_living_in_fear_end_of_ira.html

-- August 1, 2008 7:33 AM


Sara wrote:

The policy of "Return On Success" has allowed the last of the surge brigades to return home, after having succeeded.
The greater stability which has been won (in large part due to the surge) now allows for shorter Deployments to Iraq of 12 months instead of 15.

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Bush Says Stability in Iraq Allows for Shorter Deployments

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/07/31/VI2008073101246.html

Bush: Surge in Iraq Is Success
President Bush says there's encouraging news from Iraq, violence is down and that means tour lengths for U.S. troops can drop to 12 months from 15 months.

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By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 31, 2008

WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W. Va., July 31 -- President Bush declared Thursday that gains in Iraq had reached "a degree of durability," allowing the Pentagon to continue its plans for shorter military deployments and leading to the possibility of further U.S. troop reductions this fall.

"We are now in our third consecutive month with reduced violence levels holding steady," Bush said in Washington before leaving to deliver a speech at West Virginia's Greenbrier resort.

Bush's statement appeared to be aimed at highlighting significant movement toward a successful outcome in Iraq, while at the same time cautioning against the kind of firm withdrawal timeline championed by Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, and some senior Iraqi officials.

Bush's mostly upbeat assessment of developments in Iraq comes amid heated debate between presidential candidates John McCain (R-Ariz) and Obama over troop withdrawals, and comes ahead of recommendations expected from Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top American commander in Iraq, in September. Bush said Petraeus's recommendations will include "further reductions in our combat forces as conditions permit."

Bush noted that the Pentagon has shortened troop deployments to Iraq from 15 to 12 months "to relieve the burden on our forces and it will make life easier for our wonderful military families." The shortened deployment schedule does not apply to troops already in Iraq, but only those who are headed there, officials said.

The president's message Thursday morning underscored the unusual rhetorical balancing act that the White House has been attempting in recent weeks -- on the one hand praising lower levels of violence as vindication of its "surge" strategy, while also warning that conditions in Iraq could worsen dramatically if forces are drawn down too quickly.

Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki agreed earlier this month to set a "general time horizon" for U.S. combat troop withdrawals. But Maliki and other senior Iraqi leaders have indicated they favor such withdrawals by 2010, putting them at odds with Bush and McCain and in line with a 16-month phased withdrawal of combat troops advocated by Obama.

The president said Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker "report that there now appears to be a degree of durability to the gains that we have made," while also cautioning "that the progress is still reversible."

Bush also focused on what he described as significant strides in the capability of Iraqi security forces, pointing to Iraqi-led military operations earlier this year against Shiite extremist groups in Amarah, Basra and Sadr City.

The last of five Army brigades and three Marine units that were added to U.S. forces in Iraq last year in the surge returned home last month. Bush and other Republicans have credited the surge in troops for sharp reductions in violence in Iraq during the past year.

After his Washington statement on Iraq, Bush flew to White Sulphur Springs to address a meeting of the West Virginia Coal Association, using the venue to argue for increased use of "clean coal" technologies as a hedge against rising energy prices. The focus on coal follows a high-profile White House campaign in favor of opening up most of the outer continental shelf to offshore drilling, including a move by Bush to revoke an executive order first issued by his father that banned such exploration. Pointing to skyrocketing energy costs and encouraging poll results, Republicans believe a push for drilling is a political winner during an election year.

Bush said Thursday that coal is also a crucial part of the country's long-term energy strategy, and called on Congress to approve money for research into clean coal technology and development.

"There's not a single solution," Bush said. "We've got to work to have a comprehensive plan that takes advantage of our assets . . . There's no more source of reliable electricity than coal."

During the speech, Bush also hailed a new report showing that the economy grew 1.9 percent in the second quarter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/31/AR2008073100609.html?hpid=topnews

-- August 1, 2008 7:34 AM


Sara wrote:

Yea.. a new page! TY.
I was looking for it,
and posted some of the top news stories from the past little while on progress in Iraq on top.
Just a positive note to start the page. :)

Sara.

-- August 1, 2008 7:43 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Mr. Amar al-Hakim of the Al-Jazeera: There's openness to international Iraqi reality

Jazeera satellite channel hosted in Cairo Sayyid Ammar al-Hakim, who paid an official visit to Egypt last week in the programme (for today). Has been addressed many topics and issues that concern and interest to the Iraqi affair. The following are acquainted meeting ........

Reporter: There dialectic between the political situation in Iraq and the withdrawal of foreign forces, we saw how to reconcile these two trends?

Mr. Amar al-Hakim: As you know, the presence of foreign forces in Iraq is to fill any security vacuum, there is a need to provide security as the Iraqi security forces are unable at the present time, and today there are talks to determine the frameworks for ending the presence of these forces through the rescheduling of its withdrawal after the completion of The readiness of Iraqi security institution and fill the security vacuum in full and are being organized this relationship, including broad authority to determine the presence of foreign troops and end its presence in cities prelude to terminate its presence on Iraqi land and enhancing national sovereignty of Iraq and contributes to remove Iraq from Section VII of the United Nations, and we believe that Mr. Prime Minister, as Party authorized to negotiate on this subject to authorization from the political council of national security depends on these principles in determining what works and addresses the problems of sovereignty.

Reporter: But how can achieve sovereignty with the presence of foreign forces?

Mr. Amar al-Hakim: As is well known, the presence of foreign forces is a fait accompli, and today we must think how to get out of these forces from our territory, and it is natural that the process needs to develop a framework for this task and those steps that we have to come to strengthen Iraq's sovereignty and end the foreign presence .

Reporter: how to achieve national reconciliation existence of certain parties that require the withdrawal of foreign forces? Is there a role for the Baath party in Iraq's future political life?

Mr. Amar al-Hakim: All Iraqi parties assembled on the need to identify agreed to end presence of foreign troops in Iraq, and everyone in Iraq were unanimous on the need to fill the security vacuum by Iraqi security institution.

As for the construction of the second question, every citizen has not been proven against him of abuse of Iraqis is the ordinary citizen and part of this nation is entitled to attend and participate, banned the Baath Party as stipulated by the Constitution or the Baathists who were not implicated abuse and damage to the Iraqis they have complete freedom to participate in nation-building And constructing and indulging in constitutional institutions.

Reporter: Is Iraq now able to attract Arab investments for the reconstruction of Iraq?

Mr. Amar al-Hakim: The real problem is the impressions experienced by the public opinion in Arab countries over the security situation in Iraq, fears and obsessions existing as a result, and we must be serious to break the cordon and notice that the world's other regions of Iraq as Kurdistan is an acceptable level of security, The level of private sector there are offers from Arab companies within the past few months, at the State level there is an expression of the will to open up to the Iraqi reality, we seek a new stage of Arab relations include the opening of embassies of Arab officials and visits to Iraq and exchange of interests, and I am happy with these positive developments.http://www.burathanews.com/news_article_46711.html

Arabic..

-- August 1, 2008 11:56 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Election Law talks positive and talk of Sovereignty for first time since 1991.

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"President Jalal Talabani received in Baghdad US Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker and discussed with him the latest political developments in the Iraqi arena. During the meeting, which was attended by Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih, the two sides exchanged views over the Provincial Council Election Law, particularly the Kirkuk issue. Talabani stressed the need to exert all possible efforts to reach a just and acceptable agreement on this law. The president of the republic pointed out that the Kurdish political leadership is determined to protect the constitution and the principle of national accord and work towards advancing the political process and the democratic march in the country. He, at the same time, stressed his great desire to strengthen the bonds of brotherhood and civilized coexistence among all the components in Kirkuk and the need to ensure the participation of everybody in running the affairs of the city and its wealth."

- "Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki asserted today that the talks between the political blocs over the Provincial Council Election Law were held in a positive atmosphere. Following a meeting in Baghdad that brought together President Jalal Talabani, Vice President Adil Abd-al-Mahdi, Iraqi Kurdistan Region President Mas'ud Barzani, and a number of officials, the prime minister asserted that the talks over this issue will continue until the political blocs reach a formula to endorse the draft law in the Council of Representatives."

Al-Maliki is then shown saying: "The meetings are still going on in an atmosphere of understanding. There are issues that forced themselves on everybody; therefore, there should be a solution. Everybody realized all participants in the political process would lose if they failed to reach a solution. Based on this fact and in order to advance and protect the political process and continue to build the state, the meetings will continue with that in mind."

Barzani is then shown saying: "We came to Baghdad looking for a solution. There were very important talks yesterday and they are still going on. We hope to reach an acceptable solution."

Iraqi Council of Representatives Deputy Speaker Khalid al-Atiyah is shown saying: "Of course, this issue will be discussed on Sunday. The preparations are still under way to hold this session. There are contacts with all the blocs, with the mediation of the United Nations, which presented a compromise formula. We hope that the various blocs will agree on this formula, although there are still negotiations over the issue. God willing, we hope that this very important law will be endorsed through reaching an agreement on Article 24 of the law."

- "Vice President Adil Abd-al-Mahdi said that what Iraq wants from the agreement with the United States of America is to see a [time] horizon for the end of the Multinational Force's mission, Iraq restore its sovereignty, which it lost in 1991, the establishment of friendly relations with Washington, and the removal of Iraq from the Seventh Chapter without jeopardizing its security and money. Speaking to Al-Mada newspaper, the vice president denied that there was a rift in the strategic relations between the Kurdistan Alliance and the Unified Iraqi Coalition in the wake of the Council of Representatives' endorsement of the Provincial Counc il Election Law, which the Presidency Council vetoed immediately after its endorsement."
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-- August 1, 2008 11:58 AM


DinarAdmin wrote:

Sara -

I beat you to it and reposted a post of yours, using your name. I removed the double posts, as you requested. You are welcome.

DA.

-- August 1, 2008 1:29 PM


Sara wrote:

Though in California.. it is only a slim majority... as stated yesterday about the key states:

By margins of 27 to 30 percentage points, voters in each state say Congress should agree with President George W. Bush and allow offshore drilling for oil. Sen. McCain supports offshore drilling, while Sen. Obama opposes it.

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/07/iraq_dinar_disc.html#136238

And this article also mentions:

A new CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that 69 percent of Americans favor more offshore drilling,

So I guess we see why Congressional popularity is at all all time historic low.. when we look at Pelosi's efforts to "save the planet" by blocking drilling.

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Pelosi Blocks Vote On Offshore Drilling
From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Pelosi blocks offshore drilling vote GOP wants
Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau
Friday, August 1, 2008

(08-01) 04:00 PDT Washington — For weeks, pressure has been mounting in Congress to approve more domestic oil drilling, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has held the line, using her power to block a vote on offshore drilling.

President Bush has made almost daily calls for Democratic leaders to take action. House GOP leaders, citing a new poll showing that a slim majority of Californians now favor offshore drilling, issued a release Thursday saying “even (Pelosi’s) own California neighbors oppose her efforts to block new drilling far off American coasts.” GOP lawmakers are so disgruntled they’re urging Bush to deny Congress its August break by calling a special session on energy.

Even some Democrats are getting antsy, fearing the party’s stance could hurt them in the fall elections. But Pelosi, who has opposed offshore drilling throughout her two decades in Congress, insists opening new areas to drilling won’t lower gas prices in the short term. She believes a vote would only help the GOP blame Democrats for high gas prices.

“I will not … give the administration an excuse for its failure,” Pelosi said at an end-of-session roundtable interview Thursday…

Pelosi drew derision from her critics for telling the Web site Politico this week that she was blocking a vote on offshore drilling because “I’m trying to save the planet.” But she elaborated on that theme Thursday, saying she sees energy independence and fighting global warming as “my flagship issue.” She said she will use her power to resist a policy that could increase the country’s oil dependency.

“I’m not going to be diverted for a political tactic from a course of action that has a big-picture view - a vision about an energy-independent future that reduces our dependence on fossil fuels … and focuses on those renewables that are protective of the environment,” she said…

Some Democrats have already started to shift their views. Rep. Tim Holden, D-Pa., who voted two years ago against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and for a federal ban on offshore drilling, told a hometown paper last weekend he now wants to “drill everywhere.”

A new CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that 69 percent of Americans favor more offshore drilling, while 30 percent oppose it. But the poll found the public was split over whether more coastal drilling would lower gas prices, with 51 percent saying yes and 49 percent saying no.

But the poll’s more interesting finding was about who Americans blame for $4-a-gallon gas prices: About two-thirds said oil companies and foreign countries that produce energy were the major causes. Just over half blamed the Bush administration, the war in Iraq and the moratorium on offshore drilling. But only about 1 in 3 - 31 percent - blamed Democrats in Congress for high gas prices…

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When Ms. Pelosi ascended to the position of Speaker of the House we knew we were in for trouble.

But even we underestimated her hatred for this country and the unbelievable damage she has tried to wreak upon it.

She and Harry Reid are two of the most despicable public figures in the history of the country — and that is really saying something given the number of Democrats who have held office.

And just imagine what a triumvirate they would make with Mr. Obama as President.

Quote: "But only about 1 in 3 - 31 percent - blamed Democrats in Congress for high gas prices."

Gee, how could that be?

Well, have a nice (five week) vacation, Congress.

We’ll be thinking about you — every time we gas up.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 1st, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/pelosi-blocks-vote-on-offshore-drilling

-- August 1, 2008 1:49 PM


Sara wrote:

I was wondering about that, DA.
I thought it must have been you.
Appreciate it.

Sara.

-- August 1, 2008 1:52 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's Basra set for multibillion-dollar investment
Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:39am EDT

By Luke Baker

LONDON (Reuters) - Most headlines about Basra, the port city in southern Iraq that is home to the bulk of the country's vast oil wealth, tend to focus on death, destruction and wasted opportunity after five years of war.

Yet after seven months as co-chair of the Basra Development Commission, a British-Iraqi body responsible for kick-starting the area's economy and attracting foreign investment, Michael Wareing is a confirmed optimist.

Not only has security shown sustained improvement in recent months, but large multinational companies are actively looking to pour money into the country, not just into oil and gas industries, but secondary ones such as fertilizer and finance.

In fact, says Wareing, the international chief executive of tax and consulting giant KPMG, a turning point may have been reached that could see billions of dollars of international investment flow into the city in the next two to three years.

"There's significant interest, with active investor visits," Wareing told Reuters at KPMG's headquarters in London.

"We're talking about a dozen companies, most of them, but not all, significant multinationals, who are looking at quite significant opportunities," he said, referring broadly to Middle Eastern, European and U.S. firms but not wanting to be more specific because of the imminence of contract announcements.

"Providing there isn't a fallback in the security position, my sense is that security today would not need to improve further in order for us to see quite significant investment."

When quizzed about the size of flows, Wareing prefers to talk in hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, saying investment when it comes -- and he believes the breakthrough will occur before year-end -- will be large and sustained.

Iraq has the world's third-largest oil reserves at around 115 billion barrels but it needs heavy investment to modernize and diversify its oil industry.

As well as oil and gas, the major areas of interest are ports and shipping, construction, infrastructure -- including the airport and railways -- and in industries that range from fertilizer production to iron and steel and banking.

"Basra has got an awful lot of things going for it," said Wareing, listing its geographic position as a port on the Gulf, its natural resources, its university and ready labor supply.

"In terms of a number of other countries in the world that have perfectly successful, healthy economies with growth and inward investment, it's much closer to those today than it would have been a year ago."

BILLION DOLLAR FLOWS

Security remains a concern, with militia groups and criminal gangs threatening to strike at any time. But Iraq's armed forces have made progress since launching a security sweep in March, Wareing said, and Britain, which has 4,000 troops based outside Basra, is cautiously confident about the outlook.

The sort of companies looking to do business in the region are well aware of its risks. At three Basra investment meetings this year, more than 70 companies attended, said Wareing.

"If you're used to operating in Kazakhstan, Venezuela or the Niger Delta, then actually you look at Iraq in a very, very different way than someone would sitting in London," he said.

Corruption is an issue, but not dissimilar to other parts of the world, Wareing argues. "You have to balance it in terms of a world view of Iraq as opposed to matching Iraq to whatever countries in the world you would judge to be best in terms of governance," the 54-year-old said.

In recent months, Iraq has issued tenders for an array of big-ticket contracts. It is those Wareing expects to be awarded in the coming months. The more contracts awarded, the more confidence will grow and investment flow, he believes.

"There's no question that, even on a one-to-two year view, it's actually quite easy to see that investment could be measured in billions," Wareing said. "I would very, very much hope and expect that within this calendar year we would see some real movement on that. It's the next thing to happen."

While he's happy to identify himself as an optimist, he's quick to point out examples -- like Northern Ireland -- where the security tide has turned and investment followed.

If jobs can be created for the swathes of young men among Basra's 30 percent unemployed, not only will there be growth, but it will have a reinforcing impact on security.

"Iraq is a significant economic country, certainly within the region, but arguably within the world," he said.

"It has real, serious natural resources and in today's world, having real serious natural resources is a tremendous advantage wherever you are."
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 1, 2008 2:04 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq okays Dana Gas City project

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01 August 2008 (Business 24/7)
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The Kurdistan regional government in Iraq has approved a project by Dana Gas and its partner Crescent Petroleum to build a gas city on an area of more than seven square kilometres, Dana Gas said yesterday.

The gas city is a joint venture between the Sharjah-based Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum and will be spread over an area of 461 million sqft (over seven sqkm) in Kurdistan, Dana Gas said.

"The 461 million sqft site for the Kurdistan Gas City has been officially assigned by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), for development by Gas Cities LLC, following extensive surveys that have been completed on potential sites within the Kurdistan Region of Ira," the statement said.

Prime Minister of the Kurdistan regional government of Iraq Nechirvan Barzani will join other ministers, officials and diplomats in a ground breaking opening ceremony for the project on September 21.

The Kurdistan Gas City is a major new sustainable and synergistic gas-utilisation industrial complex to be built over an area of 461 million sqft, designed to promote private sector investment in a variety of gas-related industries to further benefit the country's citizens through mass training, job creation in the many tens of thousands, and the promotion of general economic activity.

It will include industrial, residential and commercial components in an integrated city, with an expected initial investment in the basic infrastructure estimated at $3bn, preparing the land for possession by prospective residents. This initial investment will in turn facilitate further Foreign Direct Investment exceeding $40 billion (Dh147bn) during the operations phase.

The gas city is being structured to hold more than 20 varieties of world scale petrochemical and heavy manufacturing plants, and hundreds of Small and Medium-sized Enterprises, served by state-of-the art civic facilities. "Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum have made a significant contribution to the Iraqi economy through their work in the Kurdistan region of Iraq thus far, and the new Kurdistan Gas City will be an extension of the considerable and commendable achievements to date," Barzani said.

"We highly appreciate their dedication towards our region and welcome their efforts to support the Iraqi people and the Iraqi economy. Through their professionalism and genuine concern for the community, we are making significant progress in spurring on economic growth and creating opportunity for our people."

Hamid Jafar, Executive Chairman of Dana Gas, said: "The gas city is an enormous step forward in Dana Gas' strategy across the Middle East, North Africa and South Asia (Menasa) region."

The gas city is the first in a series of gas cities that are being developed across Menasa region by gas cities, a joint venture company that has been established by and between Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum.

The gas city is projected to generate direct and indirect job opportunities for nearly 200,000 Iraqi citizens in infrastructure, industrial projects, support services and other business activities.

Meanwhile, pursuant to the service agreements signed in April 2007 with the Kurdistan regional government, construction is more than 80 per cent complete on 180km of natural gas pipeline and two LPG plants, carried out by Dana Gas and Crescent Petroleum in the Kurdistan to supply, process and transport natural gas to fuel urgently needed local electricity generation.

The project is employing Iraqi contractors, professionals, skilled technicians and labour in phases of construction stages to maximise local content and economic benefit. The entire project is on track for first gas supply of 150 million cubic feet per day in the coming weeks, rising to 300m cubic feet by 2009.

The gas supplied to the two new plants under construction in Erbil and Sulymaniya, will generate 1,250 MW of electricity, and benefit more than four million Iraqi citizens in the Kurdistan and the rest of Iraq. The project involves an investment of $650m – the largest single private sector investment in Iraq for decades.

"As a result of this investment, urgently needed gas will be supplied to plants cost-effectively and also result in savings to the government's budget of more than $2bn annually," Dana said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 1, 2008 2:06 PM


Sara wrote:

Security in Iraq is a very important topic..
leading, as it does, to stability.. and a stronger currency.

===

Only ABC Runs Full Iraq Status Story After Fewest U.S. Deaths Ever
By Brent Baker
August 1, 2008

Not surprisingly given the past pattern, of the broadcast networks evening newscasts on Thursday, only ABC's World News devoted a full story to the fewest Americans killed in Iraq in any month since the war began. CBS and NBC gave the great news a few seconds before pivoting to full stories on the rise of female suicide bombers and the sexual assault problem in the military. ABC anchor Charles Gibson hailed:

[A] statistic out of Iraq today that is remarkable: Six Americans were killed in combat in the entire month of July. That's the lowest number since the war began. That compares to the 66 combat deaths in July of last year.

From Iraq, reporter Terry McCarthy proceeded to convey how “U.S. troops on the ground don't follow statistics. They follow their gut. And these days, that tells them things are getting better.” McCarthy pointed to how an Army Sergeant, seven months into his second tour, “hasn't fired his weapon once on patrol” and then McCarthy credited the surge: “The turning point was the surge, which began 18 months ago. Three months in, U.S. fatalities peaked at 119. Since then, violence has declined steeply.”

CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric on Thursday didn't mention the low number of deaths, but she gave it just under ten seconds on Wednesday evening: “The U.S. death toll this month is nine, and that is the lowest since the invasion in 2003.” She quickly set up a full story on another Iraq topic, citing:

A new trend: Women strapping themselves with explosives, killing themselves and others in the process. Richard Roth tells us why female suicide bombers are on the rise.

Brian Williams gave the subject a few more seconds on Thursday night as he reported how “President Bush made an unusual early morning public appearance to talk about progress in Iraq” as “the number of U.S. combat deaths there was five” in July, “the lowest number since the start of the war.” Williams then jumped to a full report from Jim Miklaszeski on “new efforts to address sexual assault in the U.S. military.”

The news choices on Thursday matched the practice of ABC's World News always showing more willingness to highlight improvements in Iraq.

The MRC's July 21 Media Reality Check, “TV Keeps Pushing Bad News Agenda on Iraq; Study: ABC, CBS & NBC War Coverage Plummets; Reporters Emphasize Casualties Over Surge Success,” determined:

A new study by the Media Research Center finds that network evening news coverage of Iraq has fallen 65 percent in the past twelve months — a mere 429 stories so far this year, compared to 1,227 on the ABC, CBS and NBC evening news shows during the first six and a half months of 2007.
Rich Noyes, author of the study, pointed out:

To its credit, ABC’s World News with Charles Gibson provided the most even-handed coverage, with 34 stories focused on positive developments compared to 56 stories emphasizing bad news. On June 21, ABC reporter Miguel Marquez told viewers of big progress in Samarra, where the bombing of the Golden Dome mosque triggered major bloodshed two years ago: “Last year, U.S. forces here were attacked about 80 times a month. Since February, there have been a total of four attacks, a dramatic turnaround.” Two days earlier, ABC’s Terry McCarthy told a similar story of progress in the southern city of Basra, “a city reborn out of fear.”

My July 8 NewsBusters item, “ABC Sees 'Impressive Gains in Iraq' While CBS Finds Bad Hospitals,” recounted:

As was the pattern earlier this year and last, ABC's World News is much more willing -- than its CBS and NBC competitors -- to acknowledge good news in the Iraq war. On Tuesday night, ABC's Martha Raddatz cited "some really impressive gains" as she reported the plummeting number of attacks in Baghdad, falling from 1,278 in June of 2007 to 112 last month. The night before, only anchor Charlie Gibson highlighted the "upbeat assessment of security in Iraq today from Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen."

Neither the CBS Evening News nor NBC Nightly News mentioned Mullen on Monday night while NBC's Jim Miklaszewski only noted less violence in Iraq in contrast to a "record number of Americans killed in Afghanistan last month," so "if there's any bright side here...it's that the level of violence in Iraq has come down enough" to allow the military to move resources to Afghanistan...

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/08/01/only-abc-runs-full-iraq-status-story-after-fewest-u-s-deaths-ever

-- August 1, 2008 2:12 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The 'Sheriff' in Iraq's Far West
August 01, 2008
Agence France-Presse

The midday sun turns the dusty streets of the Iraqi frontier town of Al-Qaim into a furnace. It's a heat that keeps many people inside, but it fails to deter the man known as "the sheriff" on whom a fragile peace seems to depend.

Wearing a saffron-coloured shirt, a 16-shot Beretta strapped to his hip and his head shaved in the style of Yul Brynner, Abu Ahmed patrols Al-Qaim in a new Japanese all-terrain vehicle, surrounded by bodyguards toting assault rifles.

"The law here is the law of the tribes," he said. "The rule of the tribes is stronger than that of Baghdad."

Abu Ahmed belongs to the Bou Mahal, the most powerful clan in this isolated region of Iraq, some 400 kilometres (250 miles) northwest of the capital. Exclusively Sunni, the tribe controls the nearby porous frontier with Syria -- a kingdom for those who smuggle cigarettes, fuel and weapons.

"We are ready to respect the law of Baghdad, but the government has to represent the people," he said in a scarcely veiled criticism of the central power, dominated by Shiites.

This reticence to acknowledge the state as the legitimate centre of authority and power illustrates the fragility of a nation in which people prefer to put their trust in the hands of men like Abu Ahmed.

The 40-year-old is a hero to the 50,000 residents of Al-Qaim for having chased Al-Qaeda from the agricultural centre where houses line the green and blue waters of the Euphrates.

In the main street, with its fruit and vegetable stalls, its workshops and restaurants, men with pistols in their belts approach Abu Ahmed to kiss his cheek and right shoulder in a mark of respect.

It was not always this way.

He tells how one evening in May 2005 he decided that the disciples of Osama bin Laden went too far -- they killed his cousin Jamaa Mahal.

"I started shooting in the air and throughout the town bursts of gunfire echoed across the sky. My family understood that the time had come. And we started the war against Al-Qaeda."

It took three battles in the streets of Al-Qaim -- in June, in July and then in November 2005 -- to finish off the extremists who had come from Arab countries to fight the Americans.

Abu Ahmed, initially defeated by better equipped forces, had to flee to the desert region of Akashat, around 100 kilometres (60 miles) southwest of Al-Qaim. There he sought help from the US Marines.

"With their help we were able to liberate Al-Qaim," he said, sitting in his house with its maroon tiled facade.

This alliance between a Sunni tribe and American troops was to be the first, and it give birth to a strategy of other US-paid Sunni fighters ready to mobilise against Al-Qaeda.

It resulted in the Sunni province of Al-Anbar being pacified in two years.

The US military, which since it led the Spring 2003 invasion of Iraq had sought to control the frontier with Syria, found in the men of Abu Ahmed an auxiliary force completely au fait with all the routes used by the smugglers.

And while Abu Ahmed has been able to receive the homage and rewards which are seen as his right as a warlord, he is very aware that the current calm is a fragile one.

"I've drawn up my will several times," he said. "I expect to die."

His town had an unhealthy reputation for years, and no Westerners other than US troops risked going there.

In the era of Saddam Hussein, Al-Qaim's huge chemical factory treated uranium to feed Iraq's nuclear programme.

But American air strikes in 1991 and then United Nations inspections transformed the factory into a metallic skeleton. Its destruction buried the town's only source of income.

And Al-Qaeda killers are still never far away. Recently men disguised as American soldiers approached a post near the frontier with Syria. Police manning it trustingly handed over their weapons.

The disarmed men were then forced to their knees and 16 of them had their throats cut.

Just one survived to tell the tale of what had happened to his comrades in west Iraq where law and order does not always rule -- despite the presence of men like Abu Ahmed.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 1, 2008 2:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq: insurgents linked to US Marine deaths caught
Aug 1, 2008 19:00 /AP

BAGHDAD - The US military says that Iraqi soldiers have captured two suspected al-Qaida in Iraq insurgents linked to a May suicide bombing that killed four US Marines.

The military says the suspects have been linked to various wings of al-Qaida in Iraq and were seized during a raid on July 18 north of Baghdad.

Friday's statement says "intelligence reports connect the suspects to a May suicide vest attack that resulted in the deaths of four US Marines and several sheiks" during a meeting.

The military also says the two suspects are associated with an al-Qaida wing that "manipulates young boys to become suicide bombers" and that one of the suspects is believed to be a recruiter for that wing.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331168703&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

-- August 1, 2008 2:21 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

www.cbiraq.org now has pictures up on its site. These pictures are the only items on the page. Is there any guess when the new site is scheduled to be functioning?

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 1, 2008 4:26 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N;

Here:

http://www.cbiraq.org/en/index.htm

Click on the left EXCHANGE RATES, and you see:

Announcement No.(1216)

The 1218 daily currency auction was held in the Central Bank of Iraq day Sunday 2007/07/30 so the results were as follows :

Details Notes
Number of banks 6 -----
Auction price selling dinar / US $ 1191 -----
Auction price buying dinar / US $ -----
Amount sold at auction price (US $) 97.065.000 -----
Amount purchased at Auction price (US $)
Total offers for buying (US $) 97.065.000 -----
Total offers for selling (US $) -----

Though there are rumors of a soon RV,
this one did not pan out.

Sara.

-- August 1, 2008 4:45 PM


Sara wrote:

Iran: We have started nuclear fusion
August 1, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Internationally, the Iranians insist that they pursue nuclear technology as a means to produce energy, despite the fact that they sit on a sea of oil. They categorically deny attempts to build nuclear weapons and scoff at opposition to their efforts. Internally, though, they apparently have some other uses in mind, as this comment — reported by Iran’s official news agency — reveals:
QUOTE:

The official Iranian news agency (IRNA) quotes Expediency Council chief, Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani as saying, “We have started the first activities of nuclear fusion.”

Rafsanjani made the remarks today during a speech delivered to a gathering of students at Tehran’s Jamaran Hoseynieh.

===end quote==

Civilian nuclear power comes from fission, the splitting of atoms and the heat it releases. Fusion, on the other hand, has other uses as well. Hydrogen bombs rely on carefully constructed stages of both fission and fusion for their enormous release of power. In fact, thus far, hydrogen bombs have been the only successful and reliable fusion reactions produced by man.

It’s possible that the Iranians have decided to skip over fission reactors in their pursuit of electrical power, even though no one else has been able to create a practical fusion reactor after several decades of research. It seems more likely that bragging about progress on fusion has a lot more to do with the construct of a weapon rather than any peaceful use of nuclear energy. Maybe those who believe that a chat will resolve this issue with the Iranians would like to explain how a hydrogen bomb figures into those calculations.

Comments:

1) I don’t think Sean Penn knows the difference between “fission” and “fusion”. Senator Obama remarked that Rafsanjani’s comments were inartful. /sarc

Dr.Cwac.Cwac

2) That’s OK, I’m sure the Iranians will only use the bombs they build for peaceful means. - NoDonkey

3) Just a thought. If the statement was correct - fusion - then that would mean that an atomic device already existed, and that they are attempting to move on to a thermo-nuclear device. That’s not good! - OldEnglish

4) How long will Israel wait? I’ve read various opinions that speak of retaliation based on the timing of OUR elections. In reality, I feel that Israel removing the threat will be based on their own best interest and chances for survival. With Olmert stepping aside and the possibility of Netanyahu replacing him, will they wait until Olmert is gone or neutralize Iran sooner? - mimi1220

5) We must neutralize the inartful Iranian threat by engaging them in diplomatic nuance. - petefrt

6) If they don’t know the difference between fission and fusion, perhaps they shouldn’t be playing with it. - GarandFan

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/01/iran-we-have-started-nuclear-fusion/

Board - In your opinion..
Do they know the difference, and was this "inartful" words.. or intentional - expressing Iran's intent to obtain nuclear armaments?

Sara.

-- August 1, 2008 4:53 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama's lead is gone.
McCain and Obama are tied for the first time since June.

Gallup Daily: Race Tied at 44%
Registered voters evenly split in their support for Obama versus McCain
August 1, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- According to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 29-31, John McCain and Barack Obama are now tied at 44% in the preferences of national registered voters. It is a substantial turnaround from earlier this week when Obama held a statistically significant lead coming off his high-profile trip to Europe, Afghanistan, and the Middle East.

Obama and McCain were closely matched in each of the three nights of interviewing included in today's result, with neither candidate ahead by more than three percentage points. This suggests that the recent surge in voter support for Obama has truly subsided.

This is McCain's strongest showing in over a month. The last time Gallup found the race exactly tied was in late June. By contrast, in the weeks just prior to Obama's overseas trip, he had led the race by an average of four points. -- Lydia Saad

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109219/Gallup-Daily-Race-Tied-44.aspx

-- August 1, 2008 5:04 PM


Roger from Iraq wrote:

Hi all,

In Iraq now, walked into Panhandlers office, but he was on medic leave, hi Panhandler, get well.

The fighting have definitely been lowered to a very low level.

Hardly anything is lobbed over the wire into the bases, even when a dust storm is at hand, when helicopters can't fly, the normal opportunity to set up mortar attacks, but lately they have been far and few inbetween.

Blown up trucks, so common in the past, have dried up to reports of kids throwing a stone, and cracked windshield.

So I can confirm that this is not as much of a hot bed anymore, now, I have not been here in the past, but listening to people that have been here, running to the bunkers more often that not, in the past, you can for sure say that peace is at hand here.

We're still not losing our guard, but peace is more in the hands than it ever have been in the past.

Ok, to talk Dinars for a while, rumors, I love those.

Here is a good one for you, and it is all based on the ordinary, heard it from a guy that heard it from a guy.

15 of August is supposedly the big day for the Dinar according to this rumor.

Don't know where it comes from, but it involves persons that have seen shipping manifests, and higer ups, ( of course). According to the source, Jordan and Kuwait have stopped dealing with Dinars, and claims that Dinars have dried up more or less at Dealers in the US. (Is that true?)

Furthermore, it is suppose to go onto the Forex, and open up between 30 and 80 cents.

And of course the source swears by it.

At least we have nother date at hand now, always fun to get those, but the interesting thing is that the word Forex was mentioned, and I think the word Forex was mentioned in another rumor, so either someone is very productive in inserting the Forex factor, or if the runor comes from a different source, the Forex is a real possibility.

We will see, hey, I didn't come up with a lot of actual data this time but at least I gave you another BIG date to look forward to.

I will probably be transferred to another base after some time here in Anaconda, but I will be able to find pjuters, as I go, and keep in contact.

see ya all, Roger

-- August 1, 2008 6:06 PM


Sara wrote:

It looks like hope and change works..
so long as it is Obama listening to the position of John McCain and the people of America.
Another flip-flop.. for political expediency.

===

Obama shifts position on offshore oil drilling
By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer Sat Aug 2, 2008

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Friday he would be willing to support limited additional offshore oil drilling.

Shifting from his previous opposition to expanded offshore drilling, the Illinois senator told a Florida newspaper he could get behind a compromise with Republicans and oil companies to prevent gridlock over energy.

Republican rival John McCain has been criticizing Obama on the stump and in broadcast ads for clinging to his opposition as gasoline prices topped $4 a gallon. Polls indicate these attacks have helped McCain gain ground on Obama.

Asked about Obama's comment, McCain said, "We need oil drilling and we need it now offshore. He has consistently opposed it. He has opposed nuclear power. He has opposed reprocessing. He has opposed storage." The GOP candidate said Obama doesn't have a plan equal to the nation's energy challenges.

In Congress, both parties have fought bitterly over energy policy for weeks, with Republicans pressing for more domestic oil drilling and Democrats railing about oil company profits. Despite hundreds of hours of House and Senate floor debate, lawmakers will leave Washington for their five-week summer hiatus this week with an empty tank.

"The Republicans and the oil companies have been really beating the drums on drilling," Obama said in the Post interview. "And so we don't want gridlock. We want to get something done."

Later, Obama issued a written statement warmly welcoming a proposal sent to Senate leaders Friday by 10 senators — Drilling bans along the Pacific coast and the Northeast would remain in place under this compromise.

The plan also includes energy initiatives Obama has endorsed. "It would repeal tax breaks for oil companies so that we can invest billions in fuel-efficient cars, help our automakers re-tool, and make a genuine commitment to renewable sources of energy like wind power, solar power, and the next generation of clean, affordable biofuels," Obama noted.

"Like all compromises, it also includes steps that I haven't always supported," Obama conceded. Nevertheless, Obama said the plan, put forward by mostly moderates and conservatives led by Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., "represents a good faith effort at a new bipartisan beginning."

Earlier in the day, Obama pushed for a windfall profits tax to fund $1,000 emergency rebate checks for consumers besieged by high energy costs, a counter to McCain's call for more offshore drilling.

Obama primed the crowd by noting new government figures showing 51,000 jobs lost last month and citing 460,000 jobs lost over the last seven months. He tied other bad economic news from the Bush administration to McCain and offered his energy program as one route to relief.

"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said during a two-day campaign swing in Florida. "It will be enough to cover the entire increase in your heating bills. Or you could use the rebate for any of your other bills, or even to pay down your own debt."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_el_pr/obama;_ylt=A0WTUZu9OpRIgm4BywwDW7oF

Earlier in the day, Obama pushed for a windfall profits tax to fund $1,000 emergency rebate checks for consumers

Ah, yes, tax and spend... Obama is a modern day Robin Hood..
he will steal from the rich (the tax) and give $1,000 rebates to the "poor" voters to get them to vote for him.

And his plans ".. would repeal tax breaks for oil companies so that we can invest billions.."

No sense letting those rich people have their BILLIONS to do what they wish to do with it (like create jobs, open more businesses).
GOVERNMENT will be the solution to all our woes by how THEY spend those billions.. like they always are?
We all know how fiscally responsible the government is with those BILLIONS of dollars they rake in.
(Why are we in this difficulty in the first place.. ?? - Maybe because government..
didn't do what the people wanted them to until they were FORCED to - by political expediency?)

Too bad the "poor" or middle class outnumber the rich so they are a greater voting block.
Why is that?
(HINT: It might have something to do with the proposed 53% tax rate Obama plans, in order to SPEND it on his vision and priorities - instead of the money staying in the private sector and boosting its efforts to expand services and products.)

Sara.

-- August 2, 2008 7:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger!!
Good to hear from ya. :)
Thanks for the post.

GREAT news about the decreased danger in Iraq,
and the vast improvement in security.
AWESOME!!
- Thank You, Lord. :)

Good rumor.. I had heard it and this is another confimation that it may be so.
Hopefully, the Iraqis will move to a more open, market based currency this way.
A limited float, as Rob N is always saying. :)
It would be good for their economy to join the world at a reasonable value.

Take care and come back soon,

Sara.

-- August 2, 2008 7:50 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

It is good to hear from you, please be safe. I have a friend planning to do some contractor work in the near future in Iraq. I'll keep you posted. As far as the rumor we will have to wait and see.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 2, 2008 11:27 AM


Tsalagi wrote:

Roger....

Thanks for the update and good rumor from Anaconda. Most people are very surprised when they see the quality of food being served to our Military...hope you like it! When you get a chance, let us know what the Dinars are selling for inside the bases. Take care!

-- August 2, 2008 1:35 PM


cornishboy wrote:

nice to see you back roger.

-- August 2, 2008 2:14 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Roger, good to hear from you. You have a rare opportunity. Very few people get to do what you are doing. You get to go to Iraq, and see for yourself, talk to people, and make up your own mind, of what you believe.

The rest of us collect and analyze information from others, and make judgements on the reliability of people and information that is sometimes 3rd hand.
I believe that the best information comes from reading about something, and direct experience itself. There's no substitute for direct experience. I envy you. I look forward to any observations you have, from Iraq.+

-- August 2, 2008 3:58 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama Concedes Racial Dimension to 'Dollar Bill' Comments; Says McCain Campaign Not Racist, But Cynical
August 02, 2008

In Cape Canaveral, Fla., this morning, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., blasted off against the attacks coming from Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. But Obama also admitted that, despite what Obama senior adviser Robert Gibbs told reporters, there was a racial dimension to his Missouri remarks in which he said McCain and the Republicans would make an issue of the fact that he doesn't look like presidents who have been on the dollar bills.

"I don’t think it’s accurate to say that my comments have nothing to do with race," Obama said. "Here's what I was saying and I think this should be undisputed: That I don’t come out of central casting, when it comes to presidential races. For a whole range of reasons. I’m young, I’m new to the national scene, my name is Barack Obama, I am African American, I was born in Hawaii, I spent time in Indonesia. I do not have the typical biography of a presidential candidate. What that means is that I’m sort of unfamiliar and people are still trying to get a fix on who I am, where I come from, what my values are and so forth in a way that might not be true if I seemed more familiar."

"And so what I think has been an approach [of] the McCain campaign is to say, 'He’s risky,'" Obama continued. "Let me be clear: In no way do I think that John McCain’s campaign was being racist; I think they’re cynical. And I think they want to distract people from talking about the real issues."

John McCain’s camp responded to Obama’s remarks that the presumptive Republican nominee was running a "cynical" campaign for highlighting Barack Obama’s worldwide celebrity status.

"We're glad the Obama campaign retracted Barack Obama’s accusation because it was absolutely false, and we’re moving on," said Tucker Bounds, spokesman for John McCain 2008, in a statement. "The only 'cynical' candidate in this election is Barack Obama, who has opposed every element of John McCain's comprehensive energy plan that includes additional oil drilling, affordable nuclear energy and gas tax relief for hardworking families."

- jpt

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/obama-concedes.html

As for the highlighting of Obama's worldwide celebrity status - and whether that is qualification enough for the Whitehouse, a job which includes dealing with a nuclear armed Iran and troop levels in Iraq and Afghanistan during a time of war:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHXYsw_ZDXg

Sara.

-- August 2, 2008 7:11 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Roger,

It is nice to hear from you. I think, Tim Bitts is right; it is far better to see for yourself first hand than to have second and third hand knowledge from others.

I think you stated that Panhandler is on medical leave. Any possibility of finding out what is up? I know he has had heart problems in the past and I am hoping that his health is not real serious.

I am glad of your report that security in Iraq is settling down. Hopefully, this security gain will help you and other americans stay safe. Keep checking in and let us know how you are doing.

Laura Parker

-- August 2, 2008 7:17 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

I think that the Iranians know full well the difference between fission and fusion in dealing with nuclear power. That is why I believe the next months up through the swearing in of a new american President is going to be dangerous. I still believe that President Bush and the Israelis are going to attack Iran over their nuclear program. This will give Iran provocation to attack militarily in the open with a given reason to their people and rally their troops. As I believe Al-Qaida is working with the Iranians, this could set up the nuclear suite cases that Osama is reported to have received through his russian connections.

Laura Parker

-- August 2, 2008 7:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

I also am of the opinion that the Iranian report of the remarks was not a mistaken quote, but that Mr. Rafsanjani knew EXACTLY what he was saying when he used the term fusion instead of fission. He was explaining to the people that they are now well on the way to nuclear arms.. with the eventual targets being Israel and the US, as the Iranians have openly stated. It is a dangerous time and needs true leadership from someone qualified to lead and hold the highest office in the land, not based on popularity ratings or celebrity status, but experience and proven military leadership (the successful surge strategy was advocated strongly, even against his own party, by John McCain - showing his good military judgement) - so to me that means electing John McCain.

The suitcase nukes you speak of make this a very serious and dangerous time for the American people with very serious issues at stake for the next persons who will hold the offices of President and Congress. The country must be able to depend on them - even to the point of trusting them with their lives. There must be change.. (Congressional approval is at an all time low) but it must be change to that which is trustworthy, solid and true.. not flippy-floppy and based on political expedience.

There is room in politics for political flexibility.. but no room for reversals on practically every single issue - as Obama has done. He has been for unilateral negotiation with Iran without preconditions.. then against it. Against all forms of war to the point of radical leftist peaceniks hailing him as their messiah, then for the war in Afghanistan and increasing troop levels and escalation of war there. Which of his myriad positions can we trust.. and will it change again if it becomes politically inconvenient? How then can the country trust him with the helm of the country when he has proven his direction will change with the wind?

(See my next post - which will point out ANOTHER change of Obama's for political expedience.. )

Sara.

-- August 2, 2008 7:56 PM


carl wrote:

Roger...
I always knew you were a man of action.....

-- August 2, 2008 10:33 PM


Roger in Iraq wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks all for your concern, and I will try to post my observations as much as I can, the work schedule can sometimes take me out of the loop for long periods at a time.

So far, I have not been able to be on the outside of the wire, and observe, I have been busy in training maneuvering heavy trucks around obstacles (cones, Jersey barriers, and saw horses.) in day and night conditions.

I will however very soon be able to be outside the wire, and can then report a more accurate picture of the daily Iraqi life.

The exchange for the Iraqi Dinar on the base, I don't know, we're using Dollars, and it is illegal to bring Iraqi Dinars with you out of here, except in very small sums, so service personell, and contractors living the "camp" life, use Dollar.

The food here is superb, I can have King Crab every thursday, steak, in any fashion, any kind of meal I can dream up. The buffet, will easily rival those of better Casinos in Nevada. Desert is first class, icecreem, cheesecake, or whatever you wish.

On the base, there is several dining facilities, stores a bit smaller than WalMart, but not much. You can't buy tactical magasine pouches in WalMart.

I have been to one of the bases cinemas, a very big cinema, with balcony, marble, and all that, and saw Batman, a real bat was flying around in the theater at the time, probably not assiciated with the movie.

Movies shows here often before they are released in the US.

If you have a pretty girl sitting beside you in the theater, you have to watch up, she has an M-16 parked between her legs.

There are computer rooms, laundries, where you drop off and pick up, commuter busses that runns regular lines, Burger King, Popeye, and those other fast food chains here. Broidery shops, several work out places, with equipment that will put most gyms to shame, jevelerys, hair saloons, shoe shops , well anything that a town can offer.

The base is a town.

The heat is very intense, but it is the kind of dry heat you find in the southwestern states, suddenly you are very thirsty. Water is supplied in bottles per pallet loads, and you can grab it wherever you go. The place have it's own cement plant, and water plant, sewage treatment plant, airfield, and acres of acres of all kinds of equipment, construction, civilian and military.

I just want to show you all what involvement we have here, the military on this base alone is over 20.000 people , and when you add the logistics to it, you see that this adds up to a very big operation that will hardly even be possible to dismantle in a couple of months, I doubt that even a couple of years will do it, even if we did it full time from now on.

This is ONE base, and there are countless others in this country.

With all the faults of the Iraqi Gov, they still need us, and they need us pretty darn much.

If the enemy activity will subside and dissappear, the Iraqi Forces could probably hod their own by now, but the problem is that if any hotter action will happen, they ( the Iraqi Forces) are not really up to it just yet.

As for Panhandler, I have not any closer detail about him, other than he is on sick leave. I went up to his desk where he used to sit, but was told by the boss in the office that he had some convalesence time right now, that is all.

Have heard all kinds of fun and horrifying stories here.

Lets do a fun story.

This happened ( supposedly) in a convoy going to Kuwait.

A convoy went to Kuwait, and in the middle of the night one of the trucks hit a camel.

A convoy is always escorted by military, and they are ultimately responsibble for the convoy, they let the truck go, and started to deal with the camel herder, ( the camel owner).

Of course, all his camels were Studs, top of the line , award winning race camels and so on, and he demanded 10.000 Dollar for the camel.

The military with the US Gov checkbook in their hand, said that a camel was worth at most 800 bucks.

....uh what did you say, did you say 15.000 Dollar???

Anyhow, the military guy didnt care, he wrote out the 10.000 Dollar check.

The camel herder called all his friends and they gathered together probably the biggest camel heard in history in Kuwait.

Here came the next convoy, and the herders, all at once started.....Hiaaa, go your lazy camels...move em out....Hiaaa.

The truck convoy had to go zig zag between the camels, all a potential 10.000 Dollar bill.

-- August 2, 2008 11:05 PM


Sara wrote:

Awesome post, Roger.
Loved the funny story.
The bases sound great.
As much home away from home as they can be.
I had to reformat my puter.
Back up just now.
Hope you are well.
Write when you can. :)
Thanks for sharing.

Sara.
PS Thanks for the post, Carl.
Long time no hear from you.
All's well? Any thoughts to share?

-- August 3, 2008 1:53 AM


BritishKnite wrote:

I found this on the other site, and wondered what you guys thought.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/business/berko/1085001,4_3_JO01_BERKO_S1.article

Should we cut our losses and walk away now?

I don't think the author knows what he is talking about. I agree there may be shysters out there who may be forging notes, and the Saddam notes are worthless, but he thinks investing in the NID is a bad idea. Each to his own opinion I suppose. I also don't know whether or not he's a financial guru.

BritishKnite.

-- August 3, 2008 8:04 AM


Bob wrote:

I was at Camp Diamondback and Camp Anaconda, enjoy Anaconda while you can, it has all of the luxuries. Mosul does not have the luxuries but not bad though. I look at the article shared by BritishKnite and my opinion is everyone has one; if he elected not to purchase Dinar, then he missed the boat. I like to look at the half full philosophy; the Iraqis want their currency to have purchasing power as well as us. This country has too many resources to offer the world, I am not paying it any mind. Cross our fingers for August 15th.

-- August 3, 2008 4:07 PM


Sara wrote:

Britishnite;

I found it interesting that the couple asking about the dinar said, "My wife and I are very excited about this possibility. We prayed for this opportunity and earnestly seek your advice." Isn't that the way? Ask God for an opportunity.. but run to an earthly expert for "advice" about whether this is the opportunity He is providing for you? As a Christian.. I think they should have sought THE LORD in prayer for the answer, not this man. Nevertheless.. my critique:

His first words were, "My father once described a goldmine as a hole in the ground with a liar standing on top and a chump looking up from the bottom. Certainly, the bigger the lie the more likely its believability."

Is that the real definition of a gold mine? What about real people who deal in goldmines.. real ones. They tend not to be chumps but very wealthy men. It is a question of supply and demand. The only thing you need to know is.. is there really GOLD in the ground or not? Have they found a good vein of the real thing? In the case of Iraq.. I think we can say there is a lot of "black gold" under it. The idea that Iraq is not gold but a LIE is based on his view that there is no gold there. Ask yourself.. IS there gold in that goldmine? I think there is, yes. Perhaps the largest supply of black gold in the world. Certainly, the world does admit the Iraqis have an incredible amount of black gold under Iraq, the third largest oil reserves in the world (see article below for quote on that). Recently I read about someone who kept digging for water in Iraq.. and only found oil. Iraq is a nation with the real goods.. not a liar on top and a person in an empty hole in the ground.

Next, he attacks their faith and the fact they said they were praying to GOD about this when he says, "Turning a $1,900 purchase of Iraqi dinars into $1.7 million U.S. dollars would take a miracle from God. But there are gullible Americans who believe God will momentarily stop what he's doing, listen to their prayers, snap his fingers and temporarily alter the natural, immutable laws of the universe just for them."

Here he states that you are truly a gullible person if you ask God for help in your finances and actually expect to get it. Such "miracles" in his view never happen. This man oozes his heathen credentials here. I don't care what school of economics this man came from, he is obviously ridiculing these people for their faith and belief that maybe.. this is an answer to prayer. He says there are "natural, immutable laws of the universe" which would be altered by the Dinar going. Where are these laws found, exactly? For instance, where in the Bible does it say that God is never going to bless people financially? Does it specify in what ways He will and what ways He will not? Ever remember Jesus telling one of His disciples to go fishing to pay the tax money they owed? The disciple found a piece of gold in the mouth of the fish and paid the tax.. not exactly an ordinary way to pay the tax man. So.. does that same God have to work only in the way this man thinks He should.. according to what he views as "fixed laws"?

As for the Bible, I have looked a lot in there.. and all I see is promises of His good and favor and blessing, but not one verse says, "And don't expect any financial blessing from Iraqi Dinars." If these people feel that God led them to this.. maybe this man is playing the devil's advocate for discouraging them.. and based on what? On what he says are "natural, immutable laws of the universe".. (what are those, how do they work?).. so if they are so fixed and immutable.. what about those who made mega millions in the First Gulf War with the Kuwaiti currency? THAT was altering the "natural, IMMUTABLE laws of the universe"?? (Immutable means unchanging.. but that is an example of them changing.) What I am asking is.. if it happened within recent history.. how can he argue these laws are immutable (unchanging)? Will he say that was an exception but that it can never happen again? Exactly how big are these "immutable laws" and how unalterable.. if we can point to modern day exception to those very laws he believes in.. ?? To ridicule their wondering about the possibility based on their faith in God is not to deal with these "laws" nor how "unalterable" they are. It is just scoffing at their belief in God at all.

He scoffs that they must presumably believe that "God will momentarily stop what he's doing, listen to their prayers, snap his fingers and temporarily alter the natural, immutable laws of the universe just for them." So the God he believes in.. does not answer men's prayer. Certainly not by showing them an investment opportunity out of the ordinary. This line of reasoning I see as an attack on their faith, more than an appeal to reason and logic, and therefore dismissable on the basis of it being both unbelief and ridicule of their faith, rather than an economic argument. It isn't an argument against the possibility of the investment to ridicule faith in a personal God who answers prayers.. as those who have prayed and received answers well know God is able to provide in many ways, conventional and unconventional.

Next he cites logistics and costs.. (which you can minimize)... and those who have charged too much for Dinar or given false money. Buyer beware.. but what of those who obtain the real currency, and at a reasonable rate? These arguments against the Dinar in this case are not against the Dinar, but how it is obtained and if it is the real thing. They are therefore not arguments against the Iraqi Dinar investment and are distractions to his only real arguments, which come next. But let me note here.. so far all he has done is say there are false bills (that does not mean there is not real) poor dealers (that does not mean there are not good) and belief in God is silly (his opinion) especially if this couple believes that God may answer their prayers and lead them in an unconventional way concerning finances (again, his heathen opinion). As Bob said, maybe this guy just isn't supposed to have Dinar. So these arguments, along with a brief picture of an empty goldmine, which Iraq is not, is all that he has given so far. This is not such a strong argument against the Dinar, IMO. Now comes the only real reasons with any possible merit, where he says,

QUOTE: " don't bet on an Iraqi economic resurgence. Neither the United States nor Europe is going to Marshall Plan Iraq. We lack the resources and money to return Iraq to the Saddam Hussein era of peace and prosperity. The Middle East will always be dominated by Muslim extremists whose ruling guards would quickly deny interest in steel plants, high-rise office buildings or an auto factory. Iraq has lots of potential petro dollars. But those petro dollars won't become infrastructure dollars for years to come. Most of those dollars will become lost in Iraq, given as bribes to government officials, put in politicians' pockets, gifted to religious leaders, paid to army generals and what little remains will be spent internally on products produced in Iraqi factories by Iraqis."

What his main argument is.. is that you should not "bet" on Iraq's economic resurgence. That is his view in a nutshell. This is too risky an investment, in his opinion. However, those of us who are in it, think the benefit outweighs the risk and that Iraq will have an economic resurgence. He then moves on to say that the Iraqis cannot be trusted.. they are a bunch of Muslim extremists and hoodlums who won't do fair business and "we lack the resources and money to return Iraq to the Saddam Hussein era of peace and prosperity." Well, maybe a long time ago the idea of peace, stability and prosperity in Iraq was not seen as possible, but the near miraculous turnaround in the situation there, documented recently by Roger's post.. shows us that Iraq is moving toward lasting peace and stability and we are there to a large extent already. We know from recent articles (Michael Yon, above in the first few posts on this page) that the insurgents can no longer threaten the Iraqi government, so that governmental stability is now assured from this threat. As for prosperity.. the incredible investment going into Iraq, documented on the board by the huge investments going in there.. says different (see two quotes below).

And another thing.. calling the Iraqis all a bunch of Muslim extremists who are incapable of doing business is a slap in the face to the Iraqis. Are the Saudis also, in this man's racist mind, "Muslim extremists".. and the Kuwaitis, too? Does Iraq have a different set of realities to those countries so that they are incapable of being able to prosper as those countries do? Look at what the SURROUNDING countries have for economic values.. is Iraq any less in ability? Being a democracy, I expect Iraq to allow freedom to a greater degree and prosperity to happen to a greater degree in their country than the others as well. He sees no reason to do business in that sector of the world at all, because, quote, "The Middle East will always be dominated by Muslim extremists." So.. the REASON for the Dinar not going is not based on DATA.. but on his racist prejudice that the region is full of Muslims (which he characterizes as all EXTREME, which is false) and they are all totally unreasonable people you cannot do business with.. is this characterization true? I argue it is not.. and that this man's viewpoint is racist against all Muslims (and the region of the Middle East) because of the extremists. We do now have business with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.. and other nations of the Middle East. They are not "impossible" to get along with in a business frame. His argument that Iraq cannot have this same good business relationship with the world, or better, is therefore false. Iraq can prosper and have good relations as do the surrounding countries and the Iraqis have said and acted in keeping with a business ethic which shows them to be open for business and not radical Islamics bent on keeping out all investors who are not of their own religious view.

He also implicates the Iraqi government as being lawless and impossibly sectarian with sectarian interests ruling as strongmen over the Iraqi government when he says, "The Middle East will always be dominated by Muslim extremists whose ruling guards would quickly deny interest in steel plants, high-rise office buildings or an auto factory." This is proven false by several recent developments including the Iraqi government going after Sadr and his militia. The Iraqi government is dealing with the sectarian problems and are seeking to bring about peace, security and proper lawful rule for all the Iraqi people - for their stability, peace and prosperity. I do not believe the government of Iraq will deny business its fair share, even foreign investors, and they are dealing with sectarian "ruling guards" and bringing it all under their duly-elected authority for the good and peace of Iraq and her people. Have you seen the investments going into Iraq.. have you read the posts on this board.. BILLIONS of dollars worth of investment going in.. this will all be stopped?

This man does not keep up on what is actually transpiring in Iraq.. he is still, like the Democrats, living in a time at least a year or two back. Living in denial that the surge worked or that the reality has changed for Iraq and its prospects on the ground... and in the economic sphere.
QUOTES:

"Security has improved in 2008 by more than 90 percent, that is what encouraged us to call on investors to invest in Iraq," Ridha said.

===

Investors flood Iraq with project deals
by Mohammed Abbas
17 July 2008

Investors are flooding Iraq's new government investment agency with proposals worth tens of billions of dollars, the agency's head told newswire Reuters this week, as violence has dropped in recent months to a four-year low.

"If you come in the beginning, you're going to get cheap labour, support and many privileges, because we want investors. Later, the chances will be less," Ahmed Ridha said in an interview with Reuters and a Lebanese magazine.

Ridha said that the proposals lodged with the National Investment Commission included a mammoth housing and tourism project from Gulf investors in the holy Shi'ite city of Najaf.

"Security has improved in 2008 by more than 90 percent, that is what encouraged us to call on investors to invest in Iraq," Ridha said.

Politicians, religious clerics and even former insurgents are calling for investment projects to build on the security gains by providing jobs.

The Najaf project was proposed by Kuwaiti investment firm Al-Aqeelah. It includes the construction of 200,000 new homes as well as schools, medical facilities and an artificial island in Najaf lake, Ridha said.

A representative of Al-Aqeelah in Kuwait told Reuters a multi-billion dollar proposal had been lodged.

Shi'ite holy sites in the south - especially in the cities of Najaf and Kerbala - attract millions of visitors each year.

Ridha also said officials would lay the foundation stone for a new luxury hotel in the heavily fortified Green Zone government and diplomatic compound in Baghdad on Sunday.

Companies such as South Korea's Hyundai and Kia were considering building factories in the country, Ridha added.

Unlike many of its neighbours, Iraq has agricultural land, metal and mineral deposits, two rivers for fresh water, and crucially, it sits on the world's third-largest proven oil reserves, which could fund a building and construction boom.

Another concern is the legal and regulatory framework.

An investment law passed in 2006, "has given many privileges to investors, whether Iraqi or foreign," Ridha said.

"For 50 years Iraq's economy was socialist. The government bought, sold, imported and exported. We've now moved to a free economy."

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/525150-investors-flood-new-iraq-agency-with-project-deals

====

Iraq's rebuilding planned at nearly $120 billion
Last Updated(Beijing Time):2008-07-31 07:05

Stuart Bowen, special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction Wednesday is releasing his quarterly report to Congress on efforts to rebuild Iraq -- a program now expected to spend $117.79 billion.

Aided by money from a postwar record in oil production, Baghdad itself is now set to spend an amount almost equal to the US share, the report says. That is, as of the end of the quarter on June 30 the US has appropriated $50.46 billion, the Iraqis are contributing $50.33 billion and international donors have pledged $17 billion.

Bowen said that on a number of fronts, Iraq made progress in the last quarter toward standing on its own -- a key to bringing home US troops.

Amid improved security, the Iraq economy has continued to expand and essential services to residents have improved.

"But they remain uneven and are not adequate to meet current demand," the 270-page report said. "Improved security across the country has helped reduce attacks on oil pipelines, and the electricity sector's expanded operations and maintenance programs have helped increase production."

The government of Iraq still struggles to develop effective water and sewer services.

"They obviously have made enormous economic progress by virtue of improving their oil sector and they've made significant security progress," Bowen said in an interview.

One success story was a $34 million project that built a system of ditches, berms, fences and other security to protect pipelines from attacks.

"The success of the program is evident in the fact that there have been no successful attacks on northern oil lines this year," the report said, noting that contributed to the increased oil production.

Other details in the report said:

The quarter's oil production averaged 2.43 million barrels a day, the highest reported since the reconstruction program began five years ago, and close to prewar levels of 2.58 million.

http://en.ce.cn/World/Middleeast/200807/31/t20080731_16345291.shtml

Lastly, he says two more things, that "petro dollars won't become infrastructure dollars for years to come." But they are indeed working on these areas and making progress and in time, they will be used properly for the infrastructure and Iraq will prosper. His incredible negative viewpoint is again not based on current data. (See the recent report quoted, above.) Yes, they need more improvements.. but they are working on it and making progress.

And as for his argument that, quote, "Most of those dollars will become lost in Iraq, given as bribes to government officials, put in politicians' pockets, gifted to religious leaders, paid to army generals and what little remains will be spent internally on products produced in Iraqi factories by Iraqis." THIS is his opinion. I doubt it is all that dire. As proof, I refer you to my earlier article about the Saudi's in the documentary I watched about their culture where the Saudis said that yes, there was some corruption as they used the money from oil to modernize their nation.. but look at the progress. They went from being a bunch of nomads in the desert to a modernized, technically savvy country in a very short time.. with a high standard of living and good educational standards for their people. Iraq can easily do the same, and that, my friend, IS an economic resurgence. That scenerio wins Iraq her prosperity and the Dinarians some return on their investment in the Iraqi currency.

So, quite obviously, I don't believe any of his arguments stand. What do you think, Britishnite.. board?

Sara.
PS I will get to the other post I was going to make in a bit.. I lost it in the backup file when I reformatted.. :)
PPS I found the post I made on the subject of the Saudi "corruption" and believe it is relevant. I will post it next as a final refute to this argument.

-- August 3, 2008 5:34 PM


Sara wrote:

I was watching a documentary recently which I highly recommend called "Frontline: House of Saud" and it was nominated for an Emmy.

If you will bear with me, it relates to the corruption charges posted here.

The movie in brief is about, "The house of Saud has controlled every aspect of Saudi life and politics since the Kingdom was established in 1932. But little is known about Saudi Arabia's secretive royal family. Through interviews with members of the family, government officials, and other experts from Saudi Arabia and the U.S., the documentary also traces America's relations with the Saudi royal family from their first alliance in the 1930s through September 11 and today."

The movie gives a fascinating history which explains the history of Saudi Arabia from the time it was under a feudal lord system to today. Interesting and absorbing, with insights into the political and religious underpinnings of the country and how it now functions, I found the part about the allegations of CORRUPTION in it of note in this context of Iraq.

The minister of Oil from 1986 to 1995, Sheikh Hisham Nazer is interviewed. He states that the Saudis were getting in ONE BILLION dollars worth of revenue per WEEK.. or FOUR BILLION dollars per month through the years 1978 to 1980. (Obviously Iraq could have this degree of success and revenue, too.) He said that they were a bit errr.. 'backward' as a people.. undeveloped, and suddenly had these great gobs of cash. What did they do with it? They show a picture of the capital downtown which looks like modern Tokyo.. absolutely AMAZING from shepherders to this incredible modern city with skyscrapers in very little time. He said they were building 2 schools in 3 days, and the biggest concern was whether to import people who were foreigners to do the work which had to be done. They needed skilled workers and their own populace did not have those skills, but they feared "Western Corruption", but eventually said they would remain Muslim and keep them in separate compounds and keep them from contaminating them, etc. So they allowed in the foreign workers, many of which were expatriots (as would be the case with Iraqis going back to work in Iraq.) Bin Laden (YES, THAT BIN LADEN) and his family were the principle builders to the Royal family (and you thought of him as poor, right? He is a billionaire.) and yes, there were many allegations of CORRUPTION, as you have here with Iraq. Influence peddling, bribes and oversized commissions, Real Estate Fraud with unbelievable prices asked by the Saudi princes for pieces of land to build on...

Prince Ban Dar Bin Sultan Ambassador to the US from 1983 to now says "We have implemented a development program that was approximately close to 400 BILLION DOLLARS - Look at the whole country... where it was.. where it is now. I am confident you could not have done all that for.. say.. less than 350 BILLION. We had misused.. corrupt.. 50 Billion.. yes, but I'll take that anytime (when you see and contrast it with) so many countries in the third world that have oil and still are 50 years behind! More importantly, who are you to tell me this? So what?"

The documentary went on to say/imply from that comment that it was an internal country matter and considering everything, even WITH THE CORRUPTION, they have done commendably well in going from a backward undereducated country to a modern country with metropolis conditions rivaling the best cities in the world. And they are open to technological advancement and reasonable change (while holding to their own beliefs and values). They are an OPEN society and FRIENDLY to western influences.

The point is.. as far as this 18 billion in Iraq corruption.. SO WHAT? .. just as the Saudi Prince noted. It is crying over spilled milk.. let us move on and get an ally like we have in Saudi Arabia and stop bellyaching about the loss of revenue. We can't change the past and they will make up losses to the US in oil production. The politicians should stop going backward and looking back (the Democrats are perpetual backward looking.. if they were Lot's wife they would be pillars of salt by now) and look forward to getting for the Iraqis (and US!!) a prosperous future.

I get tired of the constant bickering and ridicule.. and looking back at what would have/could have/should have been done better.. let's see the laws pass.. the Dinar RV and the people of Iraq as prosperous, free, advanced and still be able to retain the best and most godly values they cherish, as the Saudis show it has some degree of success and the Iraqis can do one better than that, if they try. And they are fighting for that chance now.. we should let them have it and not stop their efforts with bemoaning this small glitch. And it IS SMALL compared to the revenue of 40 BILLION A MONTH which they will have.. (note the price of oil is 80.00 a Barrel!! will it be MORE?). Even using that statistic of 18 billion total loss and 40 billion a month.. that entire loss is less than half a month's revenue and they are acting like it is a HUGE sum.. well, not in context it isn't. So.... who cares? The fellow who says this "threatens Iraq's future" and those like him are "out to lunch".. it didn't threaten Saudi Arabia's future and they lost 50 BILLION not 18!! It didn't DESTROY their country, now, did it?

Sara.

-- October 5, 2007 2:09 PM ∞

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2007/08/this_is_the_new.html#132632

Note that the projected Iraqi revenue of 40 BILLION a month was based on 80.00 oil.. where is oil at today?

Sara.

-- August 3, 2008 5:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama’s oil flip-flop about place as well as issue
August 2, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama has proven himself slippery on oil for the second time in his campaign. In April, he accused his opponents of taking money from oil lobbies, when in fact Obama himself not only did the same thing but had oil executives as major bundlers to his campaign. Now he’s reversed himself on drilling, and he did it in a remarkable place — Florida:
Quote:

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said today he would be willing to open Florida’s coast for more oil drilling if it meant winning approval for broad energy changes.

“My interest is in making sure we’ve got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices,” Obama said in an interview with The Palm Beach Post.

“If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage - I don’t want to be so rigid that we can’t get something done,” Obama said.

==end quote==

Of course, this comes shortly after Obama called off-shore drilling “the latest scheme”, telling his supporters that drilling wouldn’t solve anything. How shortly? 48 hours! Here’s Obama in Springfield, Missouri, insisting that drilling wouldn’t work:
QUOTE:

Now the latest scheme is well, we’re going to drill offshore. Now, I want to be absolutely clear to everybody about this. If I thought that I could provide you some immediate relief on gas prices by drilling off the shores of California and New Jersey, I - I … I understand how desperate folks are. I met a guy who couldn’t go on a job search that lost his job, couldn’t go on a job search because of the high price of gas. Just couldn’t fill up his tank. I met a teacher in South Dakota who loved her job as a teacher on an Indian reservation, she had to quit because the drive was too far, it was taking up too much of her paycheck. I know how bad people are hurting. So If I thought that by drilling offshore, we could solve our problem, I’d do it.

===end quote===

So what happened in the following 48 hours to convince Obama to drill? He probably looked at the polls, especially in Florida. The Sunshine State had fiercely opposed off-shore drilling for decades, and would normally be a safe place to rail against Big Oil and talk about alternative energy sources. Not any longer, though; 60% of Floridians now support off-shore drilling, ten percent of whom acknowledge that their position has changed with the rise in gas prices.

The 48-hour flip-flop also arrives with a rebellion in the Senate Democratic caucus on drilling. The Gang of 10 threatens to undermine not only the leadership of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, but also the policy stand of Obama in the presidential election. Their compromise proposal to open certain areas of the Atlantic seaboard and the eastern Gulf of Mexico threatened to put Obama on the fringe of his own party on drilling. He had little choice but to eat his words from Springfield on the stage in St Petersburg.

Obama once again reveals himself as a traditional politician, one that will swing like a weathervane in order to get elected. The only quality remarkable about Obama is his shamelessness in policy reversals, expecting everyone to ignore his obvious change in stance as Obama pretends that he has always supported what he used to oppose. It’s more than vaguely Orwellian, and without any real track record, it should make voters across the spectrum wonder what Obama would do once in power.

Comments:

1) He precludes his changes with “as I’ve always said” and the media says, oh, okay. Not hard to figure out why he does what he does. If the media ever start doing their job, he’s toast. - Sue

2) Impressive flipflop, but still not the masterbaiter’s best.

I believe Barry said Iran was both no threat and then a grave threat over a 24 hour period. - Chuck Schick

3) Can one believe anything he says? No. Just the man we should trust with the presidency. /sarc - docdave

4) Isnt Obama the guy who said he wanted prices to be higher, but do so more gradually? - lorien1973

YEP: Obama: Higher Oil Prices Are Good? What???

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gehaf7_TBAs

Should have sunk his campaign, but, of course, like everything else, he gets a pass. Had McCain said this, his campaign would be over, as the Democrats and mass media would nail him on it, over and over. But, because it is Obama… nothing.

He can make blunder after blunder, flip flop after flip flop, gaffe after gaffe, racist remark after racist remark, lie after lie… and either no one knows, because they aren’t paying attention or the mass media isn’t reporting it (or is spinning or covering it up)… or they don’t care, because they just are suffering BDS and hate Republicans no matter what or they are Obama cultists and nothing matters. - Michael in MI

5) “As I’ve always said” is just a code phrase meaining “I’m making a 180° change to my stated position.” -rmgraha

6) The only thing amazing about anything he says or does is the minimal effect it has on his poll numbers. That he isn’t trailing by 10 points is a tribute to something, I’m just not sure what exactly — his ‘eloquence’, the inattention of the majority of voters, a larger percentage of clueless younger voters, the strong leftward movement of the electorate since 2000, or something else. - JDPerren

7) “As I have always said…” is Obama-speak for “Heads-up media, cue historical re-write…”.

8) Obama once again reveals himself as a traditional politician, one that will swing like a weathervane in order to get elected.

I honestly can NOT remember any politician, not anyone anywhere that so blatantly and obviously lies thru his (or her) teeth nearly daily to the extent that obama does.
Even his surrogates lie for him beyond belief. The obama campaign has never once said they were wrong, maybe they could change, or that bho has a fault. Conservatives, for the large part, are honest about McCain and what we like and don’t like about him and his policies.
.
Dems and Barry can not and will not admit the slightest of a problem or a chink in the armor…maybe they know the whole obama thing will crumble like a house of cards in a tornado. I am sickened and disgusted at the Dems, the left and Barry ( I’m not arrogant, prove it) SNOBama. - shooter

9) Just one more thing for the Under the Bus Executive Summary.

http://politicalinquirer.com/2008/06/28/the-obama-under-the-bus-executive-summary/

I saw one comment that if Obama becomes President, all we need is a weather vane on the White House to know the position of the day. - michaelo

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/02/obamas-oil-flip-flop-about-place-as-well-as-issue/

-- August 3, 2008 7:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq trumpets capture of Al Qaeda kingpins
By Middle East correspondent Ben Knight
Posted 2 hours 50 minutes ago Aug 3, 2008

The Iraqi army says it has captured four of the country's senior Al Qaeda members.

Iraq's defence ministry says the weekend operation to flush out insurgents and weapons in the troubled province of Diyala has been a huge success, with the arrest of four suspects linked to Al Qaeda and its allied group, the Islamic State of Iraq.

The suspects include an alleged judge, district governor, and military head of the breakaway group, as well as a woman believed to be behind the recruitment of female suicide bombers.

Meanwhile, Al Qaeda has confirmed the death of its chemical and biological weapons expert, Abu Khabab al Masri, in a United States air strike in Pakistan.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/04/2322776.htm

-- August 3, 2008 7:09 PM


Sara wrote:

Ahhh.. another day another Obama position.
It is hard to keep up on all the reversals all the time, you know.
Again.. he wants Florida's votes.. so he backs down on an issue dear to their hearts..
wooing them with.. wonder of wonders.. the promise of money, and continued jobs for Florida's NASA personnel.
Remember.. the last reversal was for Florida, too. about drilling for oil off Florida's shores, which they support.
Refer to the youtube video of the past position..
claiming the opposite again to today's.

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Shocker: Obama Reverses Self On NASA
From the Orlando Sentinel and YouTube:
Obama says he will protect NASA jobs, budget
Robert Block | Sentinel Staff Writer
August 3, 2008

TITUSVILLE - In a dramatic reversal of policy, Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Saturday told supporters on the Space Coast he no longer favors slashing NASA’s budget, declaring that the United States “cannot cede our leadership in space.”

Until Saturday, Obama had said he wanted to delay the Constellation man-on-the-moon program for five years to free up money for education programs. His change indicates he considers NASA’s future an important election issue, especially along the critical Interstate 4 corridor…

===

Of course he doesn’t mean one word he says.

He is just pandering for votes in Florida.

Once he is elected (or even out of earshot of Floridians) he will go back to singing his old tune.

This is what he means by “change.” That Mr. Obama can change his position on a dime, depending on which group of potential voters he is courting.

In case anyone has forgotten, here is Mr. Obama vowing to fund “No Child Left Behind” by cutting NASA and specifically its central “Constellation Program,” way back in November 20, 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzxKuXf-wWg

As the article notes, all mention of Mr. Obama’s plans to delay and thereby effectively kill the Constellation Program has just been carefully airbrushed from his campaign’s website.

It’s almost as if we can’t believe a word he says.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Sunday, August 3rd, 2008.

Comments:

1) 1sttofight - I am going to sue for Whiplash.

2) texaspsue - BO needs a nickname. How about “backtrack”? I’m with you 1st, I think I’m getting dizzy with all of BO’s spinning and “changing”. :-)

3) Diane - Things Obama says that you can bet on:

1) He will raise taxes. On everyone. Every chance he gets.
2) He will cut and run from Iraq.
3) He will work like the dickens to inaugurate government-controlled health care.
4) He has very little sympathy with or understanding of those of us who cling to our guns and our religion.
5) He really doesn’t like this country very much. (All right, he’s never said that last one explicitly, but he still says it quite often.)

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/shocker-obama-reverses-himself-on-nasa

-- August 3, 2008 9:13 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq invites energy contractors

Iraq is inviting bids from contractors to drill seven new oil wells and complete work on four natural gas wells.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:04 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

MP Dayni calls on KA for legal instead of political guarantees on Kirkuk 04/08/2008 12:57:00

Baghdad (NINA) - Member of Parliament Mohammad Al Dayni, from the Arab Bloc for National Dialogue, has called on the Kurdistan Alliance to "provide legal, instead of political, guarantees to solve the Kirkuk problem.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:07 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Blocs present political guarantees to solve Kirkuk's crisis, says MP 04/08/2008 12:34:00

Baghdad (NINA)- MP Omar Abdul Sattar al-Karbouli of the Iraqi Accord Front stated that some political blocs have submitted "political guarantees" in order to solve Kirkuk's issue. He told the National Iraqi News Agency Monday.
(www.ninanews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

More talk from Iran.
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Iran can close down "Hormuz" for an undetermined period - Iranian Commander

Military and Security 8/4/2008 4:31:00 PM

TEHRAN, Aug 4 (KUNA) -- Iranian Revolution Guard Commander Brigadier General Mohammad Ali Ja'fari, said on Monday that his "country can shut down easily the Strait of Hormuz given the nature of the Iranian coastal location." During a press conference marking the anniversary of Revolutionary Guard Day, Ja'fari said that his country's forces could shutdown the strait for an undetermined period.
"Iran would try to use all its missile and defensive capabilities to strike enemies' targets," the Iranian commander said.
"The length of Iran's coastline along the Strait of Hormuz, its unique geographical position and the coastal heights make it possible for Iran to close off the strait," the Iranian commander noted.
Meanwhile, Iran's military tested a new naval weapon with a range of more than 300 kilometers (185 miles), Ja'fari added.
The technology in the anti-ship weapon hasn't been used by other nations, Ja'fari said in comments carried by state-run news agencies including Press TV and the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).
Ja'fari claimed the technology used to build the missile has not been tried by any other country.
Although, enemies might prefer to shorten the time of their possible war on Iran, "We, from the outset of any war, will try to prolong it in order to use all our missile and non-missile capabilities against enemies," said the commander.(end) ht.mb KUNA 041631 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:22 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Well-connected Iraqi paper reports tentative deal on troop pullout from Iraq

Politics 8/4/2008 10:07:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Aug 4 (KUNA) -- The United States and Iraq have reached a tentative agreement to pull American forces out of the country by 2010-2011, according to a local official newspaper.
"Al-Sabah" said in its edition published on Monday that Iraqi and US officials who have been involved in negotiations over the aspired troops' pullout "set a timetable for the withdrawal of the forces that can be changed according to circumstances, that is by 2010-2011." The negotiators have submitted reports about the talks to their superiors. The negotiations may conclude very soon and the two sides will sign a memorandum of understanding in this regard, said the government-run daily.
They have also agreed that the American forces must notify the Iraqi authorities about arrests of suspected insurgents in advance and must respect human rights of the natives.
The American forces, according to the reported deal, will continue training the national military forces.
Some local political forces have campaigned for limiting powers of the allied forces in the country and speeding up their withdrawal.
The US, along with allied nations, carried out the war for the liberation of Iraq in 2003, ousting the regime of the dictator, Saddam Hussein, who was executed by gallows after the liberation. Since the launch of the operation, these forces have been aiding the national authorities to maintain security and order. (end) ah.rk KUNA 041007 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:26 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

$300 million loan to revamp Iraqi agricultural industries

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04 August 2008 (Azzaman)
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International donors have agreed to lend Iraq $300 million on condition that the money is spent on developing the country’s agricultural industries, Baghdad Chamber of Commerce said in a statement.

The chamber said the donors have entrusted United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO) whose experts will oversee the rehabilitation of the sector.

The interest-free loan has a 20-year service period and is expected to modernize the country’s agricultural industry.

Iraq used to have one of the world’s most developed date processing industries but the factories involved in date processing have aged and some of them are idle.

Iraq still has the largest number of date palm trees in the world but experts say date yields have receded and the country no longer tops the list of world producers.

The statement said new machinery is to be purchased and there will be new factories in some provinces.

Other agriculture-based industries to benefit from the loan include leather, dairy and vegetable ghee.

The statement said the loan is expected to revitalize the agricultural sector and even lead to a surplus in processed food.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:29 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

More than 11,000 displaced families return to Baghdad
By Basil Adas

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Baghdad, 04 August 2008 (Gulf News)
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Some 11,400 displaced families returned to Baghdad last month due to improved security in the city, Abdul Khaliq Zanqana, a deputy in the Iraqi parliament and chairman of the committee for the displaced told Gulf News.

He added the number of families displaced from Baghdad had reached nearly 130,000 with people either going to neighbouring countries or other parts of the world. The figure was 132,000 according to Baghdad government statistics and 92,000 according to figures provided by the Iraqi ministry of immigration.

The return of thousands of displaced families is considered one of the most positive signs of life returning to normal in Baghdad but this return is still modest compared to the total numbers of displaced people within Iraq and outside it.

"Returning is not easy, 3,000 houses belonging to the displaced in different regions of the Iraqi capital, are still occupied by strangers and they refuse to leave despite the incentives provided by the Government, including the payment of 300,000 dinars (Dh919) or $250 per month for six months to urge these outsiders who have seized the houses of displaced people to leave," Zanqana added.

The repatriation of the displaced is one of the main challenges and tests facing Nouri Al Maliki's government and this return will determine whether Al Qaida has been defeated or not, and if the return is in large numbers it will mean that the Government has succeeded in imposing its standing on the ground.

"The Iraqi government has embarked on a strategic policy for the return of the displaced to Baghdad. This policy includes ensuring the voluntary return of the displaced and providing effective mechanisms for reintegration into society and providing them with proper services and freedom from sectarian religion or denomination," Tahseen Al Shaikhly, civilian spokesman for the Baghdad security plan, told Gulf News.

The Iraqi government hopes to return nearly 60,000 displaced families by the end of 2008 but this goal seems unattainable for many reasons. For example individuals may feel unable to return due to painful memories, said Al Shaikhly.

"Painful memories and fears in the hearts of the displaced may prevent their return to their homes in large numbers," Al Shaikhly said
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:31 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq seeks buying $9 billion of US arms
Pentagon notifies Congress of proposed military sales to Iraq that include helicopters, tanks.

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Washington, 04 August 2008 (Middle East Online)
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The Pentagon said Friday it has notified Congress of proposed military sales to Iraq valued at more than nine billion dollars, including helicopters, tanks and armored vehicles.

The biggest proposed sale was for 392 Light Armored Vehicles, radios and anti-tank weapons at an estimated cost of three billion dollars, the Defense Security and Cooperation Agency said.

Congress also was notified of a possible sale of 140 upgraded M1A1 Abrams tanks as well as armored Humvees, tracked logistics vehicles, armored ambulances, vehicles to carry shelters and command posts, and trucks to transport heavy equipment.

It was valued at 2.16 billion dollars.

A separate 2.4 billion dollar helicopter deal would provide the Iraqi government with 24 Bell Armed 407 helicopters or 24 Boeing AH-6 helicopters, along with engines, missiles, mortars, machineguns, and rocket launchers.

Another proposed sale involved technical assistance in the construction of garrisons, training areas and operational facilities for the Iraqi security forces.

"The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as 1.6 billion dollars," the DSCA said.

On Monday, the DSCA announced a possible contract to sell Iraq six C-130J aircraft, with engines and other equipment, which it said was worth 1.5 billion dollars if all options were exercised.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Al-Qaida Admits Death of Top Commander
August 04, 2008
Associated Press

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida confirmed Aug. 3 the death of a top commander accused of training the suicide bombers who killed 17 American Sailors on the USS Cole eight years ago.

Abu Khabab al-Masri, who had a $5 million bounty on his head from the United States, is believed to have been killed in an airstrike apparently launched by the U.S. in Pakistan last week.

An al-Qaida statement posted on the Internet said al-Masri and three other top figures were killed and warned of vengeance for their deaths. It did not say when, where or how they died but said some of their children were killed along with them.

Pakistani authorities have said they believe al-Masri is one of six people killed in an airstrike on July 28 on a compound in South Waziristan, a lawless tribal region near the Afghan border.

The U.S. military has not confirmed it was behind the missile strike. But similar U.S. attacks are periodically launched on militant targets in the tribal border region.

Both Osama bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, are believed to be hiding in the rugged and lawless region along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

The U.S. Justice Department has accused al-Masri, an Egyptian militant whose real name is Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, of training terrorists to use poisons and explosives.

He is also believed to have helped run al-Qaida's Darunta training camp in eastern Afghanistan until the camp was abandoned amid the 2001 U.S. invasion of the country. There he is thought to have conducted experiments in chemical and biological weapons, testing materials on dogs.

The al-Qaida statement called al-Masri and the other three slain commanders "a group of heroes" and warned of retaliation.

"We tell the enemies of God that God has saved those who will be even more painful for you," it said. "As Abu Khabab has gone, he left behind, with God's grace, a generation of faithful students who will make you suffer the worst torture and avenge him and his brothers."

The statement, whose authenticity could not be independently confirmed, was dated July 30 and signed by al-Qaida's top Afghan leader, Mustafa Abu al-Yazeed. It was posted on an Islamic militant Web site where al-Qaida usually issues official statements and videos of its leaders.

Kamal Shah, a senior official in Pakistan's Interior Ministry, said the government had "no official confirmation as yet" that al-Masri was dead. The White House declined comment Sunday.

Two Pakistani intelligence officials and at least one pro-Taliban militant have said they believed al-Masri had died in the July 28 attack. An American official in Washington had expressed cautious optimism al-Masri, whose pseudonym means "father of the trotting horse, the Egyptian," was among the dead.

Terrorism experts downplayed the significance of al-Masri's death.

"A big name does not mean a big impact on the ground," said Mustafa Alani, director of national security and terrorism studies at the Gulf Research Center in Dubai. "The bottom line is that those people are replaceable. The organization has developed in such a way that it can survive and fill in any gap even if Osama bin Laden was to die."

Dia'a Rashwan, a Cairo-based expert on terrorism and Islamic movements, said al-Masri's death could hurt morale among al-Qaida's followers, but it wasn't a huge loss for the terror group, especially in Afghanistan.

"Al-Qaida might be facing setbacks in Iraq, but not in Afghanistan ... and any loss will appear (to its fighters) as a triumph against the enemy, not a defeat," Rashwan said.

Little is known about the other three slain commanders. They may also be Egyptian because their pseudonyms included the name "al-Masri," which means Egyptian in Arabic. The Web statement identified the three as Abu Mohammed Ibrahim bin Abi Farag al-Masri, Abdul-Wahab al-Masri and Abu Islam al-Masri.

It gave no details about them beyond calling Abu Mohammed "the holy warrior sheik and tutor." It said some of their children were killed along with them but did not give any further information about them.

CBS News reported Friday that al-Zawahri, al-Qaida's No. 2, was killed or critically injured in the July 28 airstrike. CBS said it had obtained a copy of an intercepted letter dated July 29 from unnamed sources in Pakistan in which a Taliban leader urgently requested a doctor to treat bin Laden's top lieutenant.

A Taliban spokesman, Maulvi Umar, denied the report. Pakistan army and intelligence officials said they had no information that al-Zawahri was hit.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 4, 2008 10:37 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Finance announces tariff revenue exceeded 120 billion dinars, and the introduction of smart card

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Finance announces tariff revenue exceeded 120 billion dinars, and the introduction of smart card
By HM By HM
Published 4.8.2008, 11:35 Published 4.8.2008, 11:35


نيوزماتيك/ بغداد Uzmatik / Baghdad

. Detect and Iraqi Finance Minister Baqer Jabr Al-Zubaidi said that the Ministry was able to achieve revenues of the Iraqi State by imposing tariffs on imported goods, estimated at more than one hundred billion dinars, announcing at the same time to start applying the credit card system for retirees and employees and a network of social protection.

جوالاستثمار. This came on the sidelines of the conference and Finance Minister Baqir Jabr Al-Zubaidi today, Monday, in Baghdad on customs tariffs as a source of wealth and investment.

". He explained in an interview with Al-Zubaidi "Uzmatik" that "has been since the day yesterday, Sunday, the application of smart card system in the Rafidain bank in collaboration with a foreign companies, pointing out that the first phase will include 20 branches of the bank in Baghdad, and then circulate to the rest of the governorates of Iraq" .
". The Minister of Finance that the "first phase will include the beneficiaries of the salaries of retirees and a network of social protection and some staff."

. The Minister of Labour and Social Affairs Sheikh Mahmoud Radi announced last Thursday on the application of smart card to pay beneficiaries of Social Welfare and from third Sunday in August.

قوله. Zubaidi stressed that "the application of smart card in Iraqi banks is a quantum leap in our banks and the trend towards global in their work" as he put it, adding that he "would reduce the burden of audit banks, and provides a tool for the efforts currently in retirement COMMENT transactions and reduction of corruption" as saying .

من ". Elsewhere Minister of Finance said that the "manipulation of the kind of imported products and duration of validity prompted Customs Authority to work on activating the customs tariffs which guarantee of charging and quality control in addition to combat smuggling."

". Zubaidi added that "the Customs Authority was able during the first half than in 2008 to maximize the state's resources through the revenue for the period from January through the end of the month of June amounted to 101.5 billion Iraqi dinars."

. He noted in his speech told Zubaidi "Uzmatik" to "make money via customs centres and regions during the month of June last imports of reconstructing Iraq and tax amounting to 5% or approximately 23.3 billion Iraqi dinars.

. It is noteworthy that the effects and remnants of the recent war on Iraq, and opposed by Iraqi officials, provides service and regulatory institutions in Iraq, which led to the breakdown of security and regulatory and clear on the border, in turn, has encouraged the entry of many goods and adulterated goods for local markets, and the recovery of the phenomenon of smuggling. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://iraqalaan.com/bm/Economy/-120--3.shtml

-- August 4, 2008 12:01 PM


cornishboy wrote:

CBI Drops Reserve Requirements


His adviser to the Iraqi Central Bank instructions to the new bank will be effective as from today, Sunday, the standardization of mandatory cash reserve ratio in government and private banks in the same ratio.

The appearance of Dr. Mohamed Saleh, told the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq), that there was a "new instructions issued by the Central Bank of Iraq apply to all banks, starting from today (Sunday), and provides for the Standardization of the compulsory reserve rate (25%) of all bank deposits , Whether governmental or civil deposits. "

He explained that the figure "will be distributed by (5%) will be kept in cash in the coffers of these banks, and the (20%) remaining deposited in their accounts with the Central Bank of Iraq, and are treated in accordance with the mechanisms and regulations currently in force in this regard."

Saleh pointed out that the compulsory reserve "the government by banks (75%), which was considered by those banks that affect the performance and limit the expansion in granting credit, has made the Central Bank of unifying with the compulsory reserve ratio for banks eligibility of the original (25% ) Only. "

The adviser added that the Central Bank of Iraq "new instructions not to be used surpluses bank deposits resulting from the government exclusively, to invest in the tools of monetary policy, investment in deposit accounts of existing facilities, or remittances CBE, or use for the purpose of financing the public debt through participation in Treasury auction remittances, as it prevents cross-loan lending between banks. " His "to allow it (banking surpluses) to go to invest about all forms of bank credit."

He d. Mazhar Saleh said this measure "designed to make the government deposits with banks geared towards the granting of loans and transaction banking, and went to other areas without returning good profits only to have a role in the economic process."

The instruction "allowed banks to invest all surpluses in the banking tools Central Bank of Iraq and remittances Treasury, and any other tools available, with the exception of surpluses arising from bank deposits, government, a rate not exceeding (35%) of the total surpluses resulting from public deposits exclusive."

-- August 4, 2008 12:06 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq is rehabilitating 225 oil wells within 9 months (Iraq Directory)

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An Iraqi official stated yesterday that his country was able to rehabilitate and repair 225 oil wells ,which their production rates ranging between 250- 300 thousand barrels per day in the context of plans to increase crude oil production.
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/34650

-- August 4, 2008 12:12 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

A little humor from the internet........

Californians

So as not to be outdone by all the redneck, hillbilly, and Texan jokes, somebody had to come up with this, you know you're from California if:

1. Your coworker has 8 body piercings’ and none are visible.

2. You make over $300,000 and still can't afford a house.

3. You take a bus and are shocked at two people carrying on a conversation in English.

4. Your child's 3rd-grade teacher has purple hair, a nose ring, and is named Flower.

5. You can't remember. Is pot illegal?

6. You've been to a baby shower that has two mothers and a sperm donor.

7. You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee beans are grown, and you can taste the difference between Sumatran and Ethiopian.

8. You can't remember . . is pot illegal?

9. A really great parking space can totally move you to tears.

10. Gas costs $1.00 per gallon more than anywhere else in the U.S.

11. Unlike back home, the guy at 8:30 am at Starbucks wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses who looks like George Clooney really IS George Clooney.

12. Your car insurance costs as much as your house payment.

13. You can't remember . . . is pot illegal?

14. Its barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news station: "STORM WATCH."

15. You pass an elementary school playground and the children are all busy with their cells or pagers.

16. it’s barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour early to avoid all the weather-related accidents.

17. HEY!!!! Is pot illegal????

18. Both you AND your dog have therapists, psychics, personal trainers and cosmetic surgeons.

19. The Terminator is your governor.

20. If you drive illegally, they take your driver's license. If you're here illegally, they want to give you one.

-- August 4, 2008 1:57 PM


Sara wrote:

Of Obama:
In July, he said he didn’t support tapping the reserve, saying it only should be used in a “genuine emergency.”
But now..

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Obama Calls for Opening of Strategic Oil Reserve, Windfall Profits Tax
by FOXNews.com
Monday, August 4, 2008

Barack Obama unveiled another shift in his energy policy Monday, reversing his opposition to tapping the nation’s strategic petroleum reserve as a means of lowering gasoline prices.

During a speech in Lansing, Mich., Obama said he’d like to release up to 10 percent of the 700 million barrels of oil kept in salt caverns in Texas and Louisiana. Obama also called for a revival of the windfall profits tax on oil companies.

Obama also called for more land to be leased in the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska, he said “we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves,” and called for collaboration with Canada to build an Alaska natural gas pipeline.

His long-term solutions included the windfall profits tax, investing in hybrid-electric technology, and renewable fuels.

The shift in Obama’s energy policy follows comments over the weekend that he would be open to limited proposals for new offshore drilling. The change drew a charge of flip-flopping from John McCain’s campaign.

Earlier this year, Obama supported capping new additions to the reserve as a way to ease pressure on gasoline prices, but not specifically tapping into the reserve. In July, he said he didn’t support tapping the reserve, saying it only should be used in a “genuine emergency.”

Obama campaign spokeswoman Heather Zichal said that while Obama didn’t initially support tapping the reserve, he has reconsidered. “He recognizes that Americans are suffering,” she said.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/04/obama-ad-windfall-tax/

Sooo.. he once took a rational approach.. saying to only use this oil in case of a true EMERGENCY..
but now.. since high prices are making things tough at the pump..
Obama proposes using the EMERGENCY oil stockpiled for a true crisis?
And JUST as Iran announces it will attack the Strait of Hormuz and make it a VERY long war "if attacked"..

Rob N's post today:

Iran can close down "Hormuz" for an undetermined period - Iranian Commander
Military and Security 8/4/2008

TEHRAN, Aug 4 (KUNA) -- Iranian Revolution Guard Commander Brigadier General Mohammad Ali Ja'fari, said on Monday that his "country can shut down easily the Strait of Hormuz given the nature of the Iranian coastal location." During a press conference marking the anniversary of Revolutionary Guard Day, Ja'fari said that his country's forces could shutdown the strait for an undetermined period.

"Iran would try to use all its missile and defensive capabilities to strike enemies' targets," the Iranian commander said.

"The length of Iran's coastline along the Strait of Hormuz, its unique geographical position and the coastal heights make it possible for Iran to close off the strait," the Iranian commander noted.

Meanwhile, Iran's military tested a new naval weapon with a range of more than 300 kilometers (185 miles), Ja'fari added.

The technology in the anti-ship weapon hasn't been used by other nations, Ja'fari said in comments carried by state-run news agencies including Press TV and the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

Ja'fari claimed the technology used to build the missile has not been tried by any other country.

Although, enemies might prefer to shorten the time of their possible war on Iran, "We, from the outset of any war, will try to prolong it in order to use all our missile and non-missile capabilities against enemies," said the commander. 041631 Aug 08NNNN (www.kuna.net.kw)

-- August 4, 2008 10:22 AM ∞
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/08/dinar_discussio_4.html#136290

Facing a PROLONGED war if Iran attacks Israel (or visa versa)...
with oil skyrocketing as they close off the Strait of Hormuz..
Obama wants to open up the emergency domestic supply?
Exactly who is he supposed to be helping in this policy?
The American people.. or Iran, in the case of a war?
At best, this man is militarily clueless..
and a babe whose policies can be a menace to Homeland security.

Sara.

-- August 4, 2008 2:19 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

So Obama is now all worried about high gas prices affecting American consumers?

Well, guess where 25% of the remaining cheap oil, in the world is?

Iraq.

And he wants to pull out, just as that country is starting to ramp up production? The guy is nuts.

Or, more likely, just another liar.

Leaving Iraq is like turning off the water hose, just as a fire gets started.

I think he's lying.

I think America will stay in Iraq, if he becomes President.

He's just lying, for political reasons.

I refuse to take him at his word.

He knows, if he is going to continue, throwing people under the bus, the bus has to be gassed up.

-- August 4, 2008 3:26 PM


Sara wrote:

timbitts;

It is a risk we should not be willing to take.

Why should we have to GUESS at what his real intent is?

Don't you think he should be as good as his word?

Sara.

-- August 4, 2008 4:38 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain pulls ahead of Obama in the Presidential Tracking Poll
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Monday, August 04, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows the race for the White House is tied with Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 44% of the vote. However, when "leaners" are included, it’s McCain 47% and Obama 46%.

This is the first time McCain has enjoyed a advantage of any sort since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination on June 3. A week ago today, Obama had a three-percentage point lead and the candidates were even among unaffiliated voters. Today, McCain leads 52% to 37% among unaffiliateds.

McCain is currently viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 51%. That is the lowest rating for Obama since he wrapped up the nomination. Obama is viewed favorably by 83% of Democrats, 22% of Republicans, and 47% of unaffiliated voters. For McCain, the numbers are 87% favorable among Republicans, 26% among Democrats, and 61% among unaffiliated voters.

Forty-six percent (46%) of voters trust McCain more than Obama on energy issues while Obama is trusted more by 42%. Two months ago, Obama had a four point edge on the energy issue.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

-- August 4, 2008 6:57 PM


Sara wrote:

A health post.. (no Dinar)

You know.. they only study trends.. but it is interesting that the charts are going up at such a huge rate.. this study predicts that:

"By 2048, all American adults would become overweight or obese."

Others say that though that might be too far off the mark.. the figure of 86% being overweight or obese by 2030.. is correct.
86%?? More than 8 out of 10 individuals?
WOW.

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Study Predicts Obesity Apocalypse by 2030
By DAN CHILDS
ABC News Medical Unit
Aug. 2, 2008

If new research released this week in the journal Obesity is correct, by the year 2048, nearly every American will be overweight or obese.

Currently, figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put the prevalence of obesity in adults at about 66 percent. But lead study author Dr. Youfa Wang of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore says that if current overweight and obesity trends continue, 86 percent of Americans could be overweight or obese by the year 2030.

Even more troubling, the authors note, "By 2048, all American adults would become overweight or obese."

"The results of the study show clearly how the future situation might become if current trends continue," Wang says.

Wang says that the increase in metabolic disease and other weight-related conditions could have a catastrophic toll on public health -- and on the public pocket. If these predictions come to bear, Wang and his colleagues estimate that the additional overweight and obesity burden could add up to an extra $860 billion to $956 billion per year in health expenditures to treat these conditions. All told, this would mean that $1 in every $6 spent on health care would be spent as a result of the overweight and obesity.

While some obesity experts are skeptical of the prediction that nearly all Americans will one day be obese, all agree that the problem is a growing one.

"It will never come to pass that all Americans are overweight, not even in 2048," says Keith-Thomas Ayoob, associate professor and pediatrics nutritionist at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in Bronx, N.Y. "That may be a statistical possibility, but not a real one. However, the other prediction of 86 percent by 2030 could very well happen. We're almost there."

And other experts say that an almost completely overweight population, however frightening, could indeed be in store for the decades to come.

Wang says this new data used in his study takes into account three decades of research.

Others cite individual responsibility for diet and lifestyle habits. Dr. Neal Barnard, founder and president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) and a staunch supporter of a vegetarian diet, says dietary modification could be a crucial step in solving the problem.

"U.S. eating habits are nowhere near where they should be," he says. "The average American eats 50 pounds more meat and 20 pounds more cheese per year, compared to the 1960s. ... I would strongly encourage Americans to adopt more vegetarian meals.

Fernstrom, on the other hand, says drastic approaches to weight control turn most people away.

But no matter the means, most agree that the research could serve as a needed alarm to help jump-start solutions to the nation's growing weight problem.

"Predictions should always be viewed as possibilities, not guarantees, but the information presented in this study should cause all Americans to focus on how they can change behaviors to promote health, their health," says Connie Diekman, director of university nutrition at Washington University in St. Louis and former president of the American Dietetic Association.

"If the projected numbers do or do not come to be, this study is a good wake-up to the fact that Americans aren't taking control of their own health."

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Fitness/story?id=5499878&page=1

-- August 4, 2008 7:39 PM


Sara wrote:

What Obama wants to abandon..

Iraq invites energy contractors to bid to drill new oil wells
AP / August 4, 2008

BAGHDAD -- Iraq is inviting bids from contractors to drill seven new oil wells and complete work on four natural gas wells.

The Oil Ministry says contractors have until September 15 to submit bids to drill in the East Baghdad oil field. Sunday's statement says bids to complete four gas wells in the Akkas gas field in western Iraq will be accepted until September 30.

Reserves in the East Baghdad oil field are estimated to be at least 5 billion barrels. Its prewar production was 50,000 barrels per day, but it has not been operational since 2003.

The Akkas gas field has estimated reserves of more than 2.15 trillion cubic feet. Iraq's Northern Oil Company says it will field questions from bidders at meetings in mid-August at its headquarters in the northern city of Kirkuk.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/middle%20east/2008/08/04/168578/Iraq%2Dinvites.htm

-- August 4, 2008 7:45 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara and the board:

In case you were not aware, the Central Bank of Iraq has a new website; www.cbi.iq. The dinar's exchange rate is down to 1189. The good news is that inflation inside the country is down and the CBI dropped their reserve requirements in order to loan more money. The Iraqi's are making positive steps but there is more work to be done.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 5, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Dohuk Free Trade Zone on track

Plans for a free trade zone in Dohuk governorate in Iraqi Kurdistan, on the border of Iraqi and Turkey, have taken a step forward with announcement that initial research and feasibility studies have been carried out on the project.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 5, 2008 9:44 AM


Sara wrote:

Gallup/USA Today Poll: McCain +4
Posted by TOM BEVAN

This one should set the tongues wagging:
Quote:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain moved from being behind by 6 points among "likely" voters a month ago to a 4-point lead over Democrat Barack Obama among that group in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll. McCain still trails slightly among the broader universe of "registered" voters. By both measures, the race is tight.

The Friday-Sunday poll, mostly conducted as Obama was returning from his much-publicized overseas trip and released just this hour, shows McCain now ahead 49%-45% among voters that Gallup believes are most likely to go to the polls in November. In late June, he was behind among likely voters, 50%-44%.

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/07/gallupusa_today_poll_mccain_4.html

-- August 5, 2008 10:45 AM


Sara wrote:

I found this today:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1BlDIA
CLICK on the photo a second time once it loads to view it clearly.

You can see that the areas Obama is losing.. are in the SOUTH.. so of course, the MSM says they are all racists.
Play the "white guilt" card.. in order to TRY and make them vote for Obama out of guilt.
But the truth is these voters are examining the issues, and not voting out of "racism."
That is a very low (base) charge.. ANY criticism of Obama.. the MSM allege to be racism.
It isn't stated by the people themselves, so the media insinuate it into the comments of people as "code" for racism.
We knew we were in for this kind of race, didn't we?

===

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?
By Lyndsi Thomas
August 4, 2008

Newsweek Paris bureau chief Christopher Dickey rendered any hesitations white Southerners may have with Obama as thinly-veiled racism:
Quote:

The South is part of the country that’s had to deal with race as an issue for a very long time and often very painfully so the idea that Obama is a black man that may be the next President of the United States has raised hopes among African-Americans tremendously, uh, but it’s also raised a lot of concerns among whites who may not talk about it as a race question but raise lots of other issues that may in some cases be "code" for race. (end quote)

In following up with that response, Brewer noted that Southerners often deal with the stereotype that they are all racists, yet proceeded to depict them as clinging -- I suppose bitterly along with guns and Bibles -- to racist traditions:
Quote:

There are probably a lot of families, too, who are wary of that stereotype, that racist stereotype that gets slapped on the South so frequently, but in your travels, you found merchants who are selling what clearly are hurtful symbols of the South's racist past. And so how does Barack Obama really stand a chance in places where so many people do cling to their Southern, sometimes racist traditions?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lyndsi-thomas/2008/08/04/msnbcs-brewer-does-obama-stand-chance-racist-south

-- August 5, 2008 11:01 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's next political test: Kirkuk and its oil wealth
Published: August 4, 2008

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Since the American invasion of Iraq in 2003, the oil-rich northern city of Kirkuk has been a political tinderbox-in-waiting that was largely ignored as war-fighting took precedence. Now that violence is way down, Iraqi leaders have no excuse not to peacefully decide the city's future. Their failure to do so has raised tensions and could further shred Iraq's fragile social fabric - and unleash more bloodshed.

Kurds who run the semi-autonomous region of Kurdistan should not be allowed to unilaterally annex Kirkuk, which they regard as their ancient capital but is also home to Turkmen and Arabs. They were promised a referendum in the Iraqi Constitution, but no durable solution can result without the participation of all groups.

Overconfident Kurds and their American supporters have not been looking seriously for compromise.

The problem came to a head two weeks ago when Iraq's Parliament passed a law again postponing a referendum on Kirkuk (it was supposed to be held by the end of 2007). The law contained a measure diluting Kurdish power in the area's provincial council.

The Kurds believe the referendum will endorse making Kirkuk and surrounding areas part of Kurdistan - giving them more oil revenue and furthering their goal of independence - while Turkmen and Arab leaders want the city to stay under the central government.

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Kurdish parliamentarians boycotted the session, resulting in the election law being declared unconstitutional. Another session on Sunday dissolved without reaching a quorum.

The problem is not just with the Kirkuk referendum. If the Kurds continue to hold the election law hostage, provincial elections now expected in early 2009 will also be stymied. These elections are crucial to Iraq's political stability and reconciliation efforts because they will give minority Sunni Arabs a chance to be in government for the first time since they boycotted the 2005 elections.

Sunnis who played a key role fighting with American forces against Iraqi insurgents are already embittered by the failure of Iraq's Shiite-dominated government to hire enough of them for promised security jobs.

Compromises on Kirkuk are theoretically possible, but only the UN seems to be seriously trying to find one. That's baffling, since no one, other than the Iraqis, has more vested in keeping the lid on violence and on tension with Turkey and Iran than the United States.

Iraqis proved their post-Saddam political wheeling-and-dealing skills when they adopted budget, amnesty and provincial powers laws earlier this year. It's worth testing whether horse-trading on the crucial but deadlocked oil law and other issues like minority rights and redistribution of powers could produce a Kirkuk deal all ethnic communities could live with.

If Iraqi leaders cannot settle the matter, they might consider putting Kirkuk and its environs under UN administration as was done with Brcko after the Balkan wars. The imperative is to ensure that Kirkuk's future is not drawn in blood.
(www.iht.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 5, 2008 12:25 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi political leaders prepared to compromise on Kirkuk impasse

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Iraqi political leaders reached a tentative compromise on Monday that could resolve a stalemate over the fate of city of Kirkuk and allow local elections to go ahead, the deputy speaker of parliament said.

Lawmakers rescheduled for today a vote on a provincial election law, which had been held up by wrangling over Kirkuk that has threatened to escalate into renewed ethnic strife.

Washington has been pressing hard on Iraqi leaders to resolve the stand-off before it jeopardises the elections, originally scheduled for October 1 and seen as vital to reconciling the country's factions and solidifying its fragile democracy.

"The new date has been set after fresh hope appeared of reaching an agreement," said Khalid Al Attiya, deputy parliament speaker and a member of Iraq's largest Shiite bloc.

A vote had been planned for Sunday but it was scrapped when lawmakers failed to agree on how the elections would affect Kirkuk, which minority Kurds want to make part of their semi-autonomous northern region.

Rift

Vice-President Adel Abdul Mahdi, a member of the Shiite majority, gathered rival politicians at his home to broker an end to the stand-off over the elections, which the US and United Nations are urging Iraq to hold this year.

Washington hopes the vote will ease sectarian strife by giving Sunni Arabs a greater political voice after they stayed away from the last local elections in 2005. But wrangling over the law has exposed a rift with another minority, the Kurds.

An initial vote to approve the bill last month was marred by a walk-out by Kurdish politicians, who oppose measures they see as robbing them of control of their ancestral capital.

The Bill passed without Kurdish support, but President Jalal Talabani, himself a Kurd, vetoed it and sent it back to parliament for a second vote.

If the vote on the Bill is delayed until after parliament's summer break, it could put the polls off until well into 2009.

"If this issue is not solved in the next two days and the rivals do not reach to a compromise, the vote on the bill will be delayed until after the summer break," said Hashim Al Taei, a member of the main Sunni Arab bloc.

One of the most divisive issues is whether or not the provincial election law will include a reference to a referendum on whether Kirkuk will be included in the Kurdish autonomous region. The referendum is called for in Iraq's constitution and Kurds believe it could tip the scales in their favour. But Arab and Turkmen residents oppose making Kirkuk part of Kurdistan.

Many Arabs moved to the city as part of Saddam Hussain's bid to "arabise" the area, and some now fear the Kurds want to drive them out. The Kurds' insistence on including the referendum article "brings the situation back to ground zero," Taei said.

Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish lawmaker, said yesterday's talks centred on a UN proposal designed to defuse tensions, which would set up a joint administration for Kirkuk as part of a temporary power-sharing solution.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 5, 2008 12:29 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Lets look at the legislative work left to accomplish by the Iraqis.
Status of Forces Agreement,
Hydro Carbon Law, Election Law, and address either the annexation of Kirkuk by the Kurds or leave it under the control of the GoI.

I am sure I am forgetting something, but my point is these are major hinderences to the progress of the Dinar. The Iraqi Parliment is set to break for summer recess and both Ramadan and Rosh Hashanah are in September.

Roger's rumor of a change in the exchange rate by August 15th is very unlikely. It looks as though it will be at leaset October (my fifth year in this investment)before any significant Dinar or Iraq related news.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 5, 2008 12:40 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara, yes we should be able to take Obama at his word. But I don't. The first time I saw him, I remember thinking he was very similar to a friend I had in high school, who was a very smooth talker, with a quick mind, and a lot of social smarts, but who turned out to be an unprincipled con man, once you got to know him.

In my opinion, Obama's primary political belief is expediency: what will work, what will make me look good.

As I have said previously, America is at the start of a very long energy crisis. I think it will last decades, as we transition off oil.

Leaving Iraq is long term economic suicide for America, because I don't believe there is a lot of cheap oil left, and America needs oil to survive, and transition it's economy. That's why America can't leave Iraq. In time, both presidential candidates will come around to this view.

I'm sure America will make the right choice.

-- August 5, 2008 3:23 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks for your post Rob N about the CBI, and also your thoughts on the Dinar RV.
And thanks, timbitts, for your thoughts on Obama.. trust is a key.
I, too, see him as a politically expedient person who says whatever gets him votes.
I guess that means we must trust the American people to be more principled than that,
so as to choose the right things for the country...
including a principled leader who won't flip-flop according to which way the weathervane points today.

As for polls today.. including polls about Iraq.
I went to Rasmussen.. and here is today's poll:

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Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll TIE today - with "leaners" included McCain leads the race by 1%
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Tuesday, August 05, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows the race for the White House is tied once again-- Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 44% of the vote. However, when "leaners" are included, it’s McCain 47% and Obama 46%.

McCain is currently viewed favorably by 55% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 53%. This is the second straight day showing McCain with an advantage nationally over Obama. Forty-six percent (46%) of voters trust McCain more than Obama on energy issues while Obama is trusted more by 42%. Two months ago, Obama had a four point edge on the energy issue

Other key stats of Election 2008 are updated daily at Obama-McCain: By the Numbers.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

AND:

Obama-McCain: By the Numbers

McCain leads Obama in trust on Iraq - 51% for McCain to Obama's 39%.

McCain leads Obama in trust on taxes - 47% McCain to Obama's 40%.

50% surveyed say the US is winning the war in Iraq.

http://rasmussenreports.com/scoreboards/by_the_numbers2/by_the_numbers

-- August 5, 2008 4:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Illustrative:

Critical of McCain, Obama quiet on his own energy vote
By TOM RAUM, AP / Aug 5 2008

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio - Democratic candidate Barack Obama criticized Republican John McCain on Tuesday for taking a page out of "the Cheney playbook" on energy, overlooking his own support of oil-friendly policies that the unpopular vice president helped to craft.

Vice President Dick Cheney, a former oilman, early in the Bush administration helped draft an energy policy that Obama asserted is biased in favor of tax breaks and favorable treatment for big oil. Obama's remarks were an attempt to capitalize on Cheney's unpopularity.

In stumping Tuesday in this key battleground state, Obama sought to link the troubled economy with Republican policies and offer his own energy plan in contrast. He has tried to cast McCain as more concerned about oil company profits and drilling than an overall energy strategy.

However, Obama himself voted for a 2005 energy bill backed by Bush that included billions in subsidies for oil and natural gas production, a measure Cheney played a major role in developing. McCain opposed the bill on grounds it included billions in unnecessary tax breaks for the oil industry.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds, said, "Barack Obama is opposed to offshore drilling and is also opposed to admitting that he voted for the same corporate giveaways for Big Oil that he's campaigning against today."

Increasingly, with his appearances this week and with a new ad, Obama has been seeking to tie McCain to the oil and gas industry, although McCain, unlike Bush and Cheney, did not previously work in the industry.

A new Obama ad says Big Oil filled McCain's campaign with $2 million in contributions and that he "wants to give them another $4 billion in tax breaks."

That $4 billion consists mainly of potential revenue from a McCain proposal to lower corporate taxes on all American businesses.

The McCain campaign pointed out that the ad doesn't mention Obama has taken some $400,000 from oil company executives.

Obama has had trouble connecting with white working-class voters, who are a major factor in Ohio.

In an Associated Press-Ipsos poll released Tuesday McCain leads among whites by 10 points.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080805/ap_on_el_pr/obama;_ylt=A0WTUcHCrJhIrDgB_gIDW7oF

-- August 5, 2008 4:37 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 5, 2008 8:14 PM


cornishboy wrote:

OPEC July Output Hits 2008 High on Saudi, Iraq http://rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=65054

-- August 5, 2008 8:18 PM


Carole wrote:

Hi All,
Home from vacation. Just browsing through last 14 days of posts.
Hi Roger,good to hear from you. Be safe and if you ever see PH, give him my best.

More later,

Carole

-- August 5, 2008 8:35 PM


mattuk wrote:

Iraq spends little oil cash on rebuilding: U.S
Tue Aug 5, 2008 8:04pm BST

By Susan Cornwell

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iraq has spent little of its growing oil revenues on rebuilding its war-ravaged infrastructure, while the United States has paid billions of dollars for reconstruction, a new U.S. report said on Tuesday.

Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, American taxpayers have paid about $48 billion for stabilization and reconstruction activities in Iraq, said the report from the Government Accountability Office, a congressional watchdog agency.

The report said despite oil revenues that will give Iraq an estimated budget surplus of $52.3 billion this year, its government ministries have made minimal outlays for reconstruction, including just $896 million last year.

Senior U.S. senators from both political parties who requested the report said it showed U.S. taxpayers should stop footing the bill for rebuilding things such as Iraqi sewage plants and electricity power lines.

"Despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue in the past five years, U.S. taxpayer money has been the overwhelming source of Iraq reconstruction funds," said Sen. John Warner, a Virginia Republican.

"We should not be paying for Iraqi projects, while Iraqi oil revenues continue to pile up in the bank, including outrageous profits from $4 a gallon gas prices in the U.S.," said Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat.

"We should require that U.S. taxpayers be reimbursed for the cost of large projects."

The war in Iraq, where the United States has about 144,000 troops, is a major issue in the campaign for U.S. presidential and congressional elections on November 4, along with the flagging economy, a housing crisis and the price of gas.
The Iraqi government generated an estimated $96 billion in revenues from 2005 to 2007, with 94 percent of that attributable to oil, the GAO report said.

For 2008, the GAO estimates Iraq will generate $73 billion to $86 billion in revenues, primarily driven by the high price of oil.

Iraq's government has been slow to spend on rebuilding and outlays have been only a fraction of what Baghdad planned in its capital investment budgets, the GAO said.

Earlier this year, Washington's ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, said the era of U.S.-funded major infrastructure projects was over.

Levin and Warner said they wrote to the Pentagon this week to complain about a notable example in which U.S. taxpayers are paying about $33 million for the development of an "economic zone" at Baghdad's airport, including funding for two hotels and improvements to a business center that the Iraqi government will own.

The most recent war funding bill passed by Congress requires that reconstruction aid from the U.S. State Department and the Agency for International Development be matched dollar-for-dollar by the Iraqi government.

-- August 6, 2008 6:45 AM


cornishboy wrote:

electoral law passed today after the approval of Kurds to give written guarantees for the Arabs and Turkmen

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Mahmoud Othman: electoral law passed today after the approval of Kurds to give written guarantees for the Arabs and Turkmen
By GA By GA
Published 6.8.2008, 13:01 Published 6.8.2008, 13:01


نيوزماتيك/بغداد Uzmatik / Baghdad

. Sign deputy Mahmoud Othman, the Kurdish alliance would be to pass the election law provincial assemblies in the parliamentary session today, Wednesday,.
. The Iraqi Parliament Speaker Mahmoud scene decided to lift the parliamentary session today, Wednesday, after unable to reach any agreement on the Law of the provincial council elections yesterday, Tuesday, a day.

". Othman said in an interview with "Uzmatik", today, Wednesday, that the Kurdistan Alliance "and agreed to give written guarantees for the Arabs and Turkmen included in the electoral law to be voted on at today's meeting."

وأضاف . Uthman added that "the written guarantees were added to the proposal submitted by the United Nations yesterday, and who was given the desirability of most parliamentary blocs" as he put it.
". The MP for the Coalition of Kurdistan, Abdul Bari, who is revealed in an interview with "Uzmatik" yesterday, Tuesday, on "the United Nations to provide a new proposal contains a postponement of elections in the city of Kirkuk for up to the end of next year, and the continuing discussions in the Iraqi parliament to formulate a law regulating elections in Kirkuk That does not exceed the end of this year 2008, as well as the continuation of the governorate of Kirkuk current performance of his duties in full, until the organization of elections in the city, and reviewing records to determine where the demographic abuses that occurred before and after in 2003, in addition to the emphasis on the need to respect all the material relating to constitutional The city of Kirkuk, including Article 140. "
". Mahmoud Othman explained that the guarantees were "the consent of the Kurdistan Alliance to add a paragraph to the United Nations proposals stipulates the obligation for the House to implement those proposals in the event of any party whatsoever obstruction."

. He called on the Kurdistan Alliance "MPs who voted for the law of provincial assemblies last time not to obstruct the adoption of the amended Act," which he "enjoys the consent of the majority of parliamentary blocs" as he put it.

. It is noteworthy that the Iraqi parliament had voted, in the twenty-second month of last July, the approval of the provincial council elections law, which reversed the presidency one day after the approval, at the meeting raised a lot of controversy between the parliamentary blocs to vote because of their dependence overt and covert some of the paragraphs of the law , Which led to the withdrawal of the Kurdistan Alliance bloc of the meeting in protest against the method of voting http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://iraqalaan.com/bm/Politics/4310.shtml

-- August 6, 2008 9:11 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Swiss dinar was NOT destroyed

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We all know that the old dinar (saddams and the swiss dinar) was replaced in 2004. We have been told that the money was destroyed. Marked Red and burned. We also know that the new dinar that they have now looks an awful lot like the old swiss dinar because they used the same printing plates. Some rumors have come through here saying that they may bring those back and that they are sitting around in banks.

Who knows. But according to this article, those notes were never destroyed. The only problem with that is that many of the dinar we hold now have the same pictures of the old swiss notes. Like the 1000 Note we have now is the same picture as the One Swiss Dinar note So how could they bring them back...couldn't have the same picture.. the old 5 Swiss dinar is the same as the New 5000 dinar note note...


Nezavisimaya - Novosti

It is well known that Iraqi banknotes bearing the image of Saddam Hussein has been reprinted in Iraq and China but not widely known that Saddam Hussein's government asked Switzerland to end in 2002 to print large amounts of new banknotes, which were Iraqis called "Swiss dinar" .

The new Iraqi government has stopped the circulation of banknotes by the Zen image of Saddam Hussein in 2004, and raised the circulation of new cash cards. However, this government did not call for some reason destroyed "Swiss dinar," which has been stored in Swiss banks.

Investigations showed the Italian security authorities have begun in 2005 in the gang busters were able to withdraw large sums of "Swiss dinar" from the banks of Switzerland to replace the lines of a new Iraqi money. The Italian police had arrested 19 people suspected of being members of this gang.

Had busters able to achieve Murad got an estimated 30 million euros.

Chief among the questions facing the team is now investigating how the gang wanted to transfer the old Iraqi banknotes to Iraq because the Iraqi dinar replaced the old dinar not only in the new Iraq. Then we can replace the dollar or the euro. This question is still awaiting an answer.

The investigation team succeeded in detecting people to open stores full of old Iraqi money in three banks in Switzerland and Austria which is named Amanuel, the official in the office of the ICRC in Geneva.http://www.elaph.com/Web/NewsPapers/2008/8/354472.htm

-- August 6, 2008 9:20 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Cornishboy:

I find it interesting this amount of the old Swiss Dinar kept from being destroyed. Currently the official currency is the new iraqi dinar; but there is nothing keeping the GoI of using the lower denominatiosn of the old swiss dinar instead of producing new currency.

The reasons why the old swiss dinar in these banks were not destroyed is open to all sorts of speculation; using them as the lower denominations is just one theory. Hopefully a GoI official will comment in order to clarrify but Its like everything else in Iraq, wait and see.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 6, 2008 9:48 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

It looks as though the Iraqi Parliment made me out to be wrong. In fact, I am glad they apparently have. Passing the supplemental budget and the election law (if passed) are good steps toward completing unfinished business.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 6, 2008 10:01 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

London meeting yields interest in Iraq’s industrial sector

Iraq’s Minister of Industry and Minerals headed a recent top level trade delegation to London to forge links with British to create investment opportunities in Iraq’s industrial sector.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 6, 2008 10:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Isolated Iran risks the same fate as Iraq: Gaddafi
Tue Aug 5, 2008

2007 TUNIS (Reuters) - Iran risks going the same way as Saddam Hussein's Iraq in its confrontation with the West and is too weak to meet the challenges it faces alone, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said on Tuesday.

"What Iran is doing is pure vanity," said Gaddafi. "If a decision is taken against Iran, it will suffer the same fate as Iraq... Iran is no stronger than Iraq and will be unable to resist."

Gaddafi was referring to the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, an attack Washington said was intended to rid Iraq of weapons of mass destruction.

Iran is refusing to back down in a row with major powers over its civilian nuclear activities which the West says is a cover for a secret program to build atomic warheads. Tehran says its only goal is to produce electricity.

Pressure has grown for deeper United Nations sanctions against Iran after an informal deadline for it to freeze expansion of nuclear work passed this weekend.

Gaddafi, whose relations with the West improved when Libya scrapped its weapons of mass destruction programs in 2003, said countries that chose isolation were doomed to fail.

"No country will survive on its own in the future -- it will disappear," Gaddafi said. "The challenges facing Iran are greater than its ability to overcome them alone."

The future was with regional groups of states such as the African Union and European Union, Gaddafi said during a visit to neighboring Tunisia.

Gaddafi took power in 1969 in a military coup in his oil producing North African state and was shunned for decades by the West, which accused him of supporting terrorism.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 6, 2008 10:14 AM


cornishboy wrote:

It look like our train is speeding up rob everyone still up for the pig roast in the florida keys.

-- August 6, 2008 10:24 AM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 6, 2008 10:29 AM


mattuk wrote:

well spotted cornishboy about the Zimbabwe dollar, who knows what might happen next over there, so it may be well wrote watching. If you check back on the currencies history, it could happen again...I wish i had and considered the possibilities, take care matt
P.S Good posts from you all lately...cheers

-- August 6, 2008 11:01 AM


mattuk wrote:

This could be interesting to watch regarding there currency, just a thought perhaps worth sharing....


EU condemns Mauritania coup
Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:32pm BST

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Commission condemned Wednesday's coup in Mauritania and demanded that President Sidi Mohamed Ould Cheikh Abdallahi be returned to power.

The EU executive, which had allocated some 156 million euros of aid for the West African country for 2008-2013, said the coup could put this cooperation into question.

"The European Commission is very concerned by the situation in Mauritania, which puts into question the remarkable democratic progress in this country," it said in a statement.

"This situation could put into question our policy of cooperation with Mauritania," EU Aid and Development Commissioner Louis Michel said, adding the president and prime minister should be freed and returned to power quickly.

Presidential guardsmen seized the Mauritanian President in a coup on Wednesday after he sacked several top army officers, and announced that he had been deposed.

The EU froze aid to Mauritania after a coup in 2005. It resumed it after the then military-led government pledged to organise elections and release political prisoners.

(Reporting by Ingrid Melander; Editing by David Brunnstrom)

-- August 6, 2008 11:24 AM


cornishboy wrote:

from a other sit.Originally Posted by po-cajun
Addy-- Not the right place to put this but--As you guys know I work in Afghanistan and don't post any more cause web is crazy here. But I called my wife today in the states as I do to ask her what the deposit was for my payroll. She told me when she got this info she ask about buying more dinar.
The man at the bank (Chase) said NO they were not selling and that something is going on in Iraq and could NOT tell her. We have been dealing with this bank for years. This is no BS just what the wife was told TODAY!!!
Its the same in the uk the banks have stoped selling dinar wonder why.!!!!

-- August 6, 2008 11:33 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Lawmakers pass provincial election law (Iraq parliament sets vote for Oct. 1) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970102/posts

-- August 6, 2008 12:02 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Cornishboy:

After some further research it seems the electoral law has been pushed back to September 9, 2008. I am assuming that the Iraqi Parliment resumes their sessions on this day.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 6, 2008 1:22 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara, thank you for your very insightful comments regarding the link to the article that I posted. I think the author does believe in God. I just think that he thinks that God would not grant money to anyone. You can read in the bible lots of references to people living prosperous lives. To live this way implies some sort of commerce, probably money (even if in the form of gold or silver). His article read more like a blog as he didn't seem to have too many references to facts to back up his opinion. Only his dad's quote about the definition of a gold mine! He should not be trying to discourage anyone from doing what they believe in, unless he knows for a fact that it is a bad idea. He didn't advise caution, or to reduce the amount to take a chance on, but flat out said the idea was ridiculous. To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if he speculated and was actually holding onto a few million dinars "just in case", because speculating is not investing, and investing advice is what he actually dishes out.

-- August 6, 2008 3:48 PM


mattuk wrote:


Iraq hoarding oil profits?

The soaring price of oil will leave the Iraqi government with a cumulative budget surplus of as much as $79 billion by year’s end an American federal oversight agency has concluded in an analysis released on Tuesday.

The unspent windfall, writes James Glanz for The New York Times, from oil sales from 2005 through 2008, appears likely to put an uncomfortable new focus on the approximately $48 billion in American taxpayer money devoted to rebuilding Iraq since the American-led invasion.

Iraq has spent little of its growing oil revenues on rebuilding its war-ravaged infrastructure, while the United States has paid billions of dollars for reconstruction.

Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, American taxpayers have paid about $48 billion for stabilization and reconstruction activities in Iraq, Susan Cornwell for Reuters says, citing the same GAO report.

Iraq resumed shipping oil through its northern pipeline to Turkey at a rate of 400,000 barrels per day (bpd), two high level officials from Turkey’s pipeline company Botas told Reuters.

The flow through the pipeline to Turkey stopped on Monday for an unknown reason.

The line is Iraq’s secondary export route, transporting crude from the northern fields around Kirkuk to the Turkish Mediterranean oil terminal at Ceyhan.

An Iraqi official stated that his country was able to rehabilitate and repair 225 oil wells ,which their production rates ranging between 250- 300 thousand barrels per day in the context of plans to increase crude oil production.

Jabbar Allaibi Director-General of the oil company clarified to al-Bayan Emirates paper “rehabilitation and repair of 225 oil wells during the past nine months will enhance the expected production from oil fields ranging between 250 and 300 thousand barrels of daily production rates, climb to 2 millions and 300 thousand barrels then the current rates that are about one million and 970 thousand barrels.”

Iraq’s Oil Ministry is inviting bids for drilling seven new oil wells and finishing work on four natural gas wells.

While the last date to submit bids for drilling in the East Baghdad oil field is September 15, for completing four gas wells in the Akkas gas field in western Iraq, its September 30, said Trade Arabia

Iraq’s Oil Ministry is reissuing an invitation to drill two deep exploration oil wells in a pair of major oilfields in southern Iraq.

The state-run Oil Exploration Co. says the new deadline to receive proposals for drilling in the South Rumaila and Luhais oilfields near Basra will be Aug. 20.

The expected depth of the two wells is about 21,325 feet, the AP said.

-- August 7, 2008 9:00 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Mattuk,

I also noticed that CNN yesterday highlighted a story on how Iraq was getting rich from oil revenue, without spending that oil revenue on rebuilding their own country, while America spent billions of American tax payer dollars rebuilding Iraq.

Good.

The media is starting to catch on: Iraq will be a very rich country soon, due to oil revenue.

We all knew that here a long time ago.

The mainstream media is usually the last to catch on to what is happening. So the fact that even CNN is catching on, is a good sign things are going well, and Iraq is progressing nicely, economically.

Which is good for people that own Dinars.

-- August 7, 2008 9:10 AM


Sara wrote:

Almaliki will draw back money to run the state and serve the public, if it becomes necessary due to the budget being delayed.
And a postive note about most political blocs agreeing on the UN proposal about the elections.

===

Almaliki intends to draw back budget from Parliament

Baghdad, 07 August 2008 (Al-Sabaah)

PM Noori Almaliki intends to draw back additional budget from Parliament if its approval delayed, a step aims to run state's duties and serving public.

Almaliki's decision came after the legislative linked approval the additional budget with solving local elections' law to provide legal cover of extending the council's term.

Most political blocs agreed on proposal of UN Secretary General's representative in Iraq, Stephan De Mistora, about the local elections that included delaying Kirkuk ballot until Sep. 2009 as maximum and respect all constitutional articles related to this issue and enacting a law about the city by the parliament by end next October, MP Hassan Senaid, said.

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/34821

-- August 7, 2008 11:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

411m oil barrels exported so far in 2008- ministry

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Thursday , 07 /08 /2008 Time 3:33:27




BAGHDAD, Aug. 7 (VOI) – Iraqi has exported 411 million barrels of oil throughout the past seven months, an official spokesman for the Iraqi Ministry of Oil said on Thursday.

"The total amount of oil that has been exported through Iraq's northern and southern ports throughout the first seven month of the year 2008 has reached 411 million barrels, an average of 58,714 million barrels per month," Asem Jihad said in a statement to Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
"The revenues from crude exports in this period reached $43 billion, at an average price of $104.62 a barrel," Jihad explained.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 12:22 PM


Sara wrote:

You are welcome, Britishknite - The article was more like a blog, and I am glad you could see that, "he didn't seem to have too many references to facts to back up his opinion." Advising caution (don't bet the farm on Iraqi Dinar) might have been expected, but mockery and complete skepticism of the Dinar investment as a whole is a disservice, as it is not a "pyramid scheme" or suchlike scam, but speculation in a COUNTRY'S currency. And, as timbitts noted this morning, even CNN and governmental representatives in Congress are starting to say that the country of Iraq has revenue and should stand on its own two feet and look after its own reconstruction with their own money. That will indeed take money.. and must in time be reflected in the value of the currency. As I have said, if Iraq has so much of the world's most valuable resource, its currency at a minimum, must be worth at least the same value as the surrounding countries, if not more. The fact it is valued so low at this point in time in history must, of course, make room for speculators such as ourselves, as it did for those who speculated on the Kuwaiti Dinar when it was grossly undervalued during the first Gulf War.

As far as investment advice, I think this person is a "bean counter" and likely wants them to put all their money in "safe" investments with a slow but steady rate of return. Most people have a little portion of their portfolio set aside for risk. The Dinar fits in there for those who are willing to do a portion of their porfolio in higher risk investments. Some people cannot take any risk, some can. While no one should sell their home and put it into Dinar, as part of a portfolio which allows for higher risk investments, this one is a good one to speculate on.

His attacking their faith was out of line and destructive. How people come to their financial views, whether through prayer and reading the Bible or doing due diligence on the facts of the investment itself (or both) his job is to explain the investment (helping them do the due diligence) and then let them make the decision based on their own rationality and capability for risk. This is not a scam that the government is going to investigate and then shut down the perpetrators (the Iraqi government and its currency).. and his advising them like it is was a disservice to them, and lacked professionality.

His only criticism which I felt was of any worth was his saying that there are hucksters who have gotten in the middle - trying to make money in the middle transaction between the country of Iraq (and its currency) and the Dinarian, and THEY could be a problem - overcharging them perhaps, or possibly selling them fake goods. Those are legitimate concerns which they should take care to assure against, but actually owning the REAL Dinar from the country of Iraq - speculating on the currency of that country - is not a scam investment and we here believe it will pay dividends, eventually (hopefully sooner rather than later).

Sara.

-- August 7, 2008 12:24 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US officials defend Iraqi budget surplus

Iraq is paying for more of its own reconstruction but is still struggling to spend its multibillion dollar surplus as it copes with a flood of oil revenue and a cumbersome approval process meant to curb corruption, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 12:24 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

UN regrets non passage of bill for provincial elections in Iraq

Politics 8/7/2008 4:58:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Aug 7 (KUNA) -- The UN expressed on Thursday its regret over the postponement of Iraqi provincial elections slated for October as MPs failed to come to a consensus on the necessary legislation in time for the holding of these elections.
Assistant representative of the UN secretary general in Iraq Andrew Kilmore told reporters at the Iraqi parliament house that the UN strived to get all Iraqi factions to reach some of kind of an agreement on passing a draft of the bill on provincial elections, to no avail.
"We at the UN mission to help Iraq are quite ready to assist in any way we can to bypass this hurdle over the issue of the elections," he said, hoping that Iraqi factional leaders would come to an agreement at the parliament leading to the holding of the elections some time soon.
If the draft bill for the provincial elections is not endorsed by the parliament, the elections could not take place this year, during the remainder of the parliament's regular term, he noted.
He expressed the view that the vast majority of the Iraqi people condoned holding the elections as speedily as possible and that they were waiting for the nation's leaders to agree on the draft bill for the elections law.
The Kurdistan coalition had earlier accused the parliament speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani of not facilitating a vote to take place regarding the draft bill and that he did not consult with the coalition on that at all.
MP Fuad Maasoum, who is a member of the Kurdistan coalition, said the parliament session today was supposed to discuss the UN proposals regarding the draft bill for provincial elections, but instead it opted to adjourn the session without any decision being taken on this vital issue.
The UN mission here and the independenst elections board announced that the provincial elections would not be held in October, in the light of the state of non-agreement among MPs as to the passing of the draft bill for these elections. (end) mhg.ajs KUNA 071658 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 12:31 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US military arrests 25 armed men in separate operations in Iraq

Military and Security 8/7/2008 5:14:00 PM



BAGHDAD, Aug 7 (KUNA) -- US forces arrested 25 armed men on Thursday during separate operations targeting Al-Qaeda in central and northern Iraq.
A statement from the US military said arrests operations were executed in Salman bak in the Iraqi capital and in Nainona governance in the northern part of the country.
A number of those arrested are leaders in Al-Qaeda organizations and dismantling car units, including foreign terrorist networks, the statement added.(end) ahh.mb KUNA 071714 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 12:33 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All: (Non-Dinar Post)

Israel Mulls Iran Military Option
August 07, 2008
Associated Press

JERUSALEM - Israel is building up its strike capabilities amid growing anxiety over Iran's nuclear ambitions and appears confident that a military attack would cripple Tehran's atomic program, even if it can't destroy it.

Such talk could be more threat than reality. However, Iran's refusal to accept Western conditions is worrying Israel as is the perception that Washington now prefers diplomacy over confrontation with Tehran.

The Jewish state has purchased 90 F-16I fighter planes that can carry enough fuel to reach Iran, and will receive 11 more by the end of next year. It has bought two new Dolphin submarines from Germany reportedly capable of firing nuclear-armed warheads - in addition to the three it already has.

And this summer it carried out air maneuvers in the Mediterranean that touched off an international debate over whether they were a "dress rehearsal" for an imminent attack, a stern warning to Iran or a just a way to get allies to step up the pressure on Tehran to stop building nukes.

According to foreign media reports, Israeli intelligence is active inside Iranian territory. Israel's military censor, who can impose a range of legal sanctions against journalists operating in the country, does not permit publication of details of such information in news reports written from Israel.

The issue of Iran's nuclear program took on new urgency this week after U.S. officials rejected Tehran's response to an incentives package aimed at getting it to stop sensitive nuclear activity - setting the stage for a fourth round of international sanctions against the country.

Israel, itself an undeclared nuclear power, sees an atomic bomb in Iranian hands as a direct threat to its existence.

Israel believes Tehran will have enriched enough uranium for a nuclear bomb by next year or 2010 at the latest. The United States has trimmed its estimate that Iran is several years or as much as a decade away from being able to field a bomb, but has not been precise about a timetable. In general U.S. officials think Iran isn't as close to a bomb as Israel claims, but are concerned that Iran is working faster than anticipated to add centrifuges, the workhorses of uranium enrichment.

"If Israeli, U.S., or European intelligence gets proof that Iran has succeeded in developing nuclear weapons technology, then Israel will respond in a manner reflecting the existential threat posed by such a weapon," said Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz, speaking at a policy forum in Washington last week.

"Israel takes (Iranian President) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statements regarding its destruction seriously. Israel cannot risk another Holocaust," Mofaz said.

The Iranian leader has in the past called for Israel's elimination, though his exact remarks have been disputed. Some translators say he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map," while others say a better translation would be "vanish from the pages of time" - implying Israel would disappear on its own rather than be destroyed.

Iran insists its uranium enrichment is meant only for electricity generation, not a bomb - an assertion that most Western nations see as disingenuous.

Israeli policymakers and experts have been debating for quite some time whether it would even be possible for Israel to take out Iran's nuclear program. The mission would be far more complicated than a 1981 Israeli raid that destroyed Iraq's partially built Osirak nuclear reactor, or an Israeli raid last year on what U.S. intelligence officials said was another unfinished nuclear facility in Syria.

In Iran, multiple atomic installations are scattered throughout the country, some underground or bored into mountains - unlike the Iraqi and Syrian installations, which were single aboveground complexes.

Still, the Syria action seemed to indicate that Israel would also be willing to use force preemptively against Iran.

"For Israel this is not a target that cannot be achieved," said Maj. Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash, former head of Israel's army intelligence.

However, it's unlikely Israel would carry out an attack without approval from the United States.

Recent signs that Washington may be moving away from a military option - including a proposal to open a low-level U.S. diplomatic office in Tehran and a recent decision to allow a senior U.S. diplomat to participate alongside Iran in international talks in Geneva - are not sitting very well with Israel.

That may help explain recent visits to Jerusalem by Mike McConnell, the U.S. director of national intelligence, and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each of whom delivered a message to Israel that it does not have a green light to attack Iran at this time.

Senior Israeli officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they do not wish to appear at odds with their most important ally, said they were concerned about a possible softening of the U.S. stance toward Iran.

Apparently to allay Israeli concerns, Bush administration officials last week assured visiting Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak that the U.S. has not ruled out the possibility of a military strike on Iran. And the U.S., aware of Israel's high anxiety over Iran's nukes, is also hooking Israel up to an advanced missile detection system known as X-Band to guard against any future attack by Iran, said a senior U.S. defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions over the issue have not been made public.

With sanctions and diplomacy still the international community's preferred method to get Iran to stop building the bomb, an Israeli strike does not appear imminent.

If it did attack, however, Israel would have to contend with upgraded Iranian defense capabilities, including 29 new Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile systems Iran purchased from Russia last year in a $700 million deal.

Russia has so far not gone through with a proposed sale to Iran of S-300 surface-to-air missiles, an even more powerful air defense system than the Tor-M1. An Israeli defense official said the deal is still on the table, however. This is a big source of consternation for Israel because the system could significantly complicate a pre-emptive Israeli assault on Iran.

Military experts say an Israeli strike would require manned aircraft to bombard multiple targets and heavy precision bombs that can blast through underground bunkers - something Israel failed to do in its 2006 war against Hezbollah. It's widely assumed that Israel is seeking to obtain bunker buster bombs, if it hasn't already done so.

Elite ground troops could also be necessary to penetrate the most difficult sites, though Israeli military planners say they see that option as perhaps too risky.

America's ability to take out Iran's nuclear facilities is far superior to Israel's.

Unlike Israel, the United States has cruise missiles that can deliver high-explosive bombs to precise locations and B-2 bombers capable of dropping 85 500-pound bombs in a single run.

Yet the cost of an attack - by the U.S., Israel or both - is likely to be enormous.

Iran could halt oil production and shut down tanker traffic in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, which could send the price of crude skyrocketing and wreck Western economies.

It could stir up trouble for the U.S. in Iraq by revving up Shiite militias there just as Washington is showing some important gains in reining in Iraqi chaos.

It could activate its militant proxies in both Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, from where Israel could come under heavy rocket attack. And it could strike Israel with its arsenal of Shahab-3 long-range missiles - something Israel is hoping to guard against through its Arrow missile defense system.

Perhaps most importantly, any strike on Iran - especially if it's done without having exhausted all diplomatic channels - could have the opposite of the desired effect, "actually increasing the nationalist fervor to build a nuclear weapon," said Meir Javedanfar, an Iranian-born Israeli and expert on Iranian affairs.

Whether an attack on Iran would be worth its cost would depend on how long the nuclear program could be delayed, said Chuck Freilich, a former Israeli deputy national security adviser and now a senior fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.

"A two, three-year delay is not worth it. For a five to 10-year delay I would say yes," he said.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 12:35 PM


Sara wrote:

Quote from Rob N's article:

"The UN mission here and the independenst elections board announced that the provincial elections would not be held in October, in the light of the state of non-agreement among MPs as to the passing of the draft bill for these elections."
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/08/dinar_discussio_4.html#136343

I had felt, myself, that having these Iraqi elections in the same year as is the United States was a disservice to the Iraqi people because it causes too much to be in question all at the same time. This is so because an election year makes the political situation different than a non-election year, no matter which country we are speaking about. Such political upheaval and change is hard enough for one country, but for both - remember that Iraq is a top issue (if not the top issue) to Americans in the polls, and of course the US elections as to who gets into the Whitehouse (someone who will leave them in the lurch, OB - or support them, McCain) is of high interest to the Iraqis and their households, too.

Therefore, it seemed wiser to me to have a postponement of the Iraqi elections to another year for stability's sake. Next year looks wiser, when things will be settled under John McCain's presidency and they can navigate their course with more certainty that there will be continuing US support for their country, and less fears over Iran taking over or a loss of their lives as a result of a precipitous pullout. Political positions tend to gloss over these realities here, but I am sure in Iraq the implications are all too crystal clear, immediate and real to the Iraqis - brought home to them in every bombing or death they are forced to endure. Escalation of such activity to unbearable levels would indeed be on the Iraqi voter's minds and Obama's position of abandonment of their country as a "distraction" to the "real" war on terror in Afghanistan must weigh heavy on their minds and concerns for their collective future.

I believe that too much uncertainty now about the future of Iraq would have affected exactly how people vote in Iraq - for whom they cast their ballot. I am sure that there will be many who will vote differently in an election next year than they would have voted in an election this year in October - which a time before the November US elections are completed and a time fraught with uncertainty over the US support issue. This delay is in the interests of one of the Iraqi parties seeking governmental representation in the Iraqi parliament over another.. and I am sure it was all factored in concerning how it turned out.. by the good Lord on High. If this is how it turned out, I believe it is how it should be, for whomever is supposed to run the country of Iraq in the future to be assured that they will win. Directions of countries are in HIS hands, and believing this, I do not see this as a setback, but an event under the rulership of God for the good of mankind.

Dan 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever He will..

God gives the rulership of a country to whomever He wills, and this is a part of that plan to assure them that power they seek.

Sara.

-- August 7, 2008 1:09 PM


Sara wrote:

The Central Bank Of Iraq started to unify the reserved monetary rate among the governmental and private banks
07 August 2008 (Iraq Directory)

The Iraqi Central Bank Consultant stated to Aswat Al Iraq about the new instructions will be effective from Sunday, the mandatory standardization of cash reserve ratio in government and private banks in the same ratio.

Dr. Modhir Mohamed Saleh, told the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq), that there was a "new instructions issued by the Central Bank of Iraq apply to all banks, starting from (Sunday), and provides for the Standardization of the compulsory reserve rate (25%) of all bank deposits , Whether governmental or civil deposits."

He explained that the figure "will be distributed by (5%) will be kept in cash in the coffers of these banks, and the (20%) remaining deposited in their accounts with the Central Bank of Iraq, and are treated in accordance with the mechanisms and regulations currently applied in this regard."

Saleh pointed out that the compulsory reserve "for the governmental banks (75%), which was considered by those banks that affect the performance and limit the expansion in granting credit, which made the Central Bank to unify the compulsory reserve ratio for the private banks of the original (25% ) Only. "

The Consultant of the Central Bank of Iraq added "the new instructions not to be used surpluses of bank deposits resulting from the government exclusively, investment in deposit accounts for facilitation, or remittances CBE, or use for the purpose of public financing debt through participation in Treasury auction remittances, as it prevents cross-loan lending between banks. "

He added " and to allow (banking surpluses) to go to invest about all forms of bank credit."

D. Madhar Saleh said this procedure "designed to make the government deposits with banks geared towards the granting of loans and bank transaction, and not proceed for returning good profits only without having a role in the economic process."

The instruction "allowed banks to invest all surpluses in the banking tools of Central Bank of Iraq and remittances Treasury, and any other tools available, with the exception of surpluses arising from bank deposits, government, a rate not exceeding (35%) of the total surpluses resulting from public deposits only."

Saleh said that these instructions "aimed to motivate banks to market orientation, and to assign monetary policy trends in the provision of credit and bank financing required by the local state, and address the unemployment and economic stagnation, and continuing to face the inflation and price signals adopted by Central Bank to target inflation and achieving a unified framework of stability and economic growth desired."

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/34831

-- August 7, 2008 1:18 PM


Sara wrote:

I thought the link to the pdf at this url worth noting to the board:

===

GAO: Iraq could have $79 billion budget surplus
Aug 6, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Iraqi government could end the year with as much as a $79 billion budget surplus as ever-increasing oil revenues pile on top of leftover income the Iraqis still haven't spent on their national rebuilding effort, congressional auditors say.

A report by the Government Accountability Office made public Tuesday prompted renewed calls from senators that Baghdad pay more of the bill for its own reconstruction, which has been heavily supported with U.S. funds.

The projected Iraq surplus, including unspent money from 2005 through 2008, has been building because of rising world oil prices, increasing Iraqi oil production, the government's inability to execute budgets for spending its money and persistent violence in the country, the GAO said.

GAO REPORT: Read full text (pdf) http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d081031.pdf

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-08-06-gao-iraq_N.htm?csp=34

-- August 7, 2008 1:28 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Iraq already has a 79 billion dollar surplus, and the oil hasn't really started to really flow yet.

Currently Iraq pumps, what is it, 2.1 million barrels per day? (from memory)

And the production goal in 5-10 years is 10 million barrels per day.

That means way more government revenue, in Iraq.

And most oil executives and economists say oil will only go up. It' won't go down.

So what will this mean, in 5-10 years, for the Iraqi government budget? Surpluses of $200 billion per annum?

I wouldn't be too surprised.

That 79 billion surplus is just a taste things to come.

It's already a ridiculously large sum of money for a country with a population of only 28 million people in Iraq.

What about when agriculture and other heavy industries kick in? The economic multiplier effect will go nuts.\

Iraq will be a very very rich country, very soon.

Even when the Iraqis get up to speed on budgeting and spending and overseeing large projects, I doubt they will be able to spend their enormous wealth.

All good news for Dinar investors, as I think the Iraqi currency will eventually hit par with the Saudi Riyal.

Many non-Dinar investors who are thinking about investing in the Dinar will look back in 5-10 years, with enormous regret that they didn't jump in, on the best investment opportunity, in a very long time.

-- August 7, 2008 3:31 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqis: Deal close on plan for US troops to leave By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA and ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD - Iraq and the U.S. are near an agreement on all American combat troops leaving Iraq by October 2010, with the last soldiers out three years after that, two Iraqi officials told The Associated Press on Thursday. U.S. officials, however, insisted no dates had been agreed.

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The proposed agreement calls for Americans to hand over parts of Baghdad's Green Zone — where the U.S. Embassy is located — to the Iraqis by the end of 2008. It would also remove U.S. forces from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, according to the two senior officials, both close to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and familiar with the negotiations.

The officials, who spoke separately on condition of anonymity because the talks are ongoing, said all U.S. combat troops would leave Iraq by October 2010, with the remaining support personnel gone "around 2013." The schedule could be amended if both sides agree — a face-saving escape clause that would extend the presence of U.S. forces if security conditions warrant it.

U.S. acceptance — even tentatively — of a specific timeline would represent a dramatic reversal of American policy in place since the war began in March 2003.

Both Iraqi and American officials agreed that the deal is not final and that a major unresolved issue is the U.S. demand for immunity for U.S. soldiers from prosecution under Iraqi law.

Throughout the conflict, President Bush steadfastly refused to accept any timetable for bringing U.S. troops home. Last month, however, Bush and al-Maliki agreed to set a "general time horizon" for ending the U.S. mission.

Bush's shift to a timeline was seen as a move to speed agreement on a security pact governing the U.S. military presence in Iraq after the U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

Iraq's Shiite-led government has been holding firm for some sort of withdrawal schedule — a move the Iraqis said was essential to win parliamentary approval.

The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad declined to comment on details of the talks. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nangtongo said the negotiations were taking place "in a constructive spirit" based on respect for Iraqi sovereignty.

In Washington, U.S. officials acknowledged that some progress has been made on the timelines for troop withdrawals but that the immunity issue remained a huge problem. One senior U.S. official close to the discussion said no dates have been agreed upon.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because the negotiations have not been finished.

But the Iraqis insisted the dates had been settled preliminarily between the two sides, although they acknowledged that nothing is final until the entire negotiations have been completed.

One Iraqi official said persuading the Americans to accept a timetable was a "key achievement" of the talks and that the government would seek parliamentary ratification as soon as the deal is signed.

But differences over immunity could scuttle the whole deal, the Iraqis said. One of the officials described immunity as a "minefield" and said each side was sticking by its position.

One official said U.S. negotiator David Satterfield told him that immunity for soldiers was a "red line" for the United States. The official said he replied that issue was "a red line for us too."

The official said the Iraqis were willing to grant immunity for actions committed on American bases and during combat operations — but not a blanket exemption from Iraqi law.

The Iraqis also want American forces hand over any Iraqi they detain. The U.S. insists that detainees must be "ready" for handover, which the Iraqi officials assume means the Americans want to interrogate them first.

As the talks drag on, American officials said the Bush administration is losing patience with the Iraqis over the negotiations, which both sides had hoped to wrap up by the end of July.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and al-Maliki had a long and "very difficult" phone conversation about the situation on Wednesday during which she pressed the Iraqi leader for more flexibility particularly on immunity, one U.S. senior official said.

"The sovereignty issue is very big for the Iraqis and we understand that. But we are losing patience," the official said. "The process needs to get moving and get moving quickly."

The official could not say how long the call lasted but said it was "not brief" and "tense at times."

In London, Britain's defense ministry said it is also in talks with Iraq's government over the role of British troops after the U.N. mandate runs out. Prime Minister Gordon Brown recently said that early next year Britain will reduce its troops in Iraq, now at about 4,100, and that Britain's role in the country will change fundamentally.

Iraq's position in the U.S. talks hardened after a series of Iraqi military successes against Shiite and Sunni extremists in Basra, Baghdad, Mosul and other major cities and after the rise in world oil prices flooded the country with petrodollars.

As the government's confidence rose, Iraqi officials believed they were in a strong negotiating position — especially with the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. Barack Obama, pledging to remove all combat forces within his first 16 months in office if security conditions allow.

Standing firm against the Americans also enhances al-Maliki's nationalist credentials, enabling him to appeal for support from Iraqis long opposed to the U.S. presence.

On Thursday, a spokesman for Muqtada al-Sadr said the Shiite cleric will call on his fighters to maintain a cease-fire against American troops — but may lift the order if the security agreement fails to contain a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal.

The statement by Sheik Salah al-Obeidi came as al-Sadr planned to spell out details of a formula to reorganize his Mahdi Army militia by separating it into an unarmed cultural organization and elite fighting cells.

The announcement is expected during weekly Islamic prayer services on Friday.

"This move is meant to offer an incentive for the foreign forces to withdraw," al-Obeidi said. "The special cells of fighters will not strike against foreign forces until the situation becomes clear vis-a-vis the Iraq-U.S. agreement on the presence of American forces here."

Several cease-fires by al-Sadr have been key to a sharp decline in violence over the past year. But American officials still consider his militiamen a threat and have backed the Iraqi military in operations to try to oust them from their power bases in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.
(www.yahoo.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 7, 2008 4:12 PM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts, I agree. The incredible amount of money to be made makes this "high risk" venture worth the risk.
Note this says that this year alone the revenue for Iraq will be 70 BILLION, with a realized revenue so far of 43 BILLION:

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Iraq oil exports total $43 billion in Jan-July
08.07.08

Iraq - BAGHDAD, Aug 7 (Rheuters) - Iraq exported 411 million barrels of oil in the first seven months of 2008, bringing in revenues of $43 billion, the country's oil ministry said on Thursday.

"We expect, if the situation stays the same, that our income will be more than $70 billion this year," ministry spokesman Asim Jihad said.

Iraq has built up oil production this year due to more stable flows from the north, where sabotage and technical problems previously kept supplies all but idle.

Exports in May of 1.99 million barrels per day (bpd) were the highest since before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. June and July figures were slightly lower.

Iraq has the world's third largest oil reserves. As soaring oil prices swell Iraqi revenues, the budget surplus is expected to grow to as much as $50 billion in 2008.

That may shrink if the Iraqi government spends an extra $22 billion added to the 2008 budget, a measure approved by parliament on Wednesday.

http://www.forbes.com/reuters/feeds/reuters/2008/08/07/2008-08-07T163849Z_01_L7138137_RTRIDST_0_IRAQ-OIL-EXPORTS.html

Note they expect an additional 50 BILLION budget surplus.
Impressive.
Imagine.. soon Iraq will be a nation with no national debt.. and revenues in the tens of billions a year.
(What could any country do with 50 BILLION extra revenue??)
And their currency will remain worth less than one US penny on the world market?
Not likely.

Sara.

-- August 7, 2008 5:03 PM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts and Board, NOTE:

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How General Petraeus Saved the U.S. Economy
August 05, 2008
James Pethokoukis

With oil prices continuing to plunge—and they may have a lot further to go—I've started wondering about this "what if" scenario: Where would oil prices be today had we abandoned Iraq to civil war and al Qaeda? What if President Bush had announced on Jan. 10, 2007, that instead of surging U.S. troops under the command of General Patraeus, he was ordering their withdrawal? Imagine if Iraq had descended in complete chaos and terror and genocide. Somalia or Rwanda on the Tigris and Euphrates, I guess.

Right now, Iraq is pumping out some 2.4 million barrels of petroleum a day. (That's about what the country was producing before the war and double the level of production at its post-liberation low point.) But given tight global oil markets, what would the price of oil be—and what would the state of the U.S. economy be—with perhaps all of those 2.4 million barrels off the market? Actually, we don't have to imagine very hard at all. Hurricane Katrina took about 2.4 million barrels off the market (because of refining shutdown and a halt to foreign oil deliveries), and oil prices spiked. And then layer on top of all that a possible regional war. Saudi Arabia and Iran might well have intervened on the side of the Sunni and Shiite. Wouldn't we all be screaming about $200-a-barrel oil—or maybe twice that?

Instead, to quote a recent and much-overlooked Associated Press analysis, terrorists and insurgents "no longer have the clout to threaten the viability of the central government." Perhaps now the energy-stressed global economy can look forward to more Iraq oil coming onto the market, perhaps six 6 million barrels a day or more in time as western capital pours in. And while we're at it, don't forget about the costs of not liberating Iraq to begin with. In today's Wall Street Journal, columnist Bret Stephens presents an interesting counterfactual that raises all sorts of interesting questions about opportunity costs,
QUOTE:

Had [Saddam] remained in power, we would likely still believe he had WMD. He would have been sitting on an oil bonanza priced at $140 a barrel. He would almost certainly have broken free from an already crumbling sanctions regime. The U.S. would be faced with not one, but two, major adversaries in the Persian Gulf. Iraqis would be living under a regime that, in an average year, was at least as murderous as the sectarian violence that followed its collapse. And the U.S. would have seemed powerless to shape events.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/8/5/how-general-petraeus-saved-the-us-economy.html

-- August 7, 2008 5:09 PM


Sara wrote:

Any thoughts.. Carole, board?

Remember Hillary's comment about "anything can happen"?
Well, I wondered your thoughts on today's open thread on NB which said,
QUOTE:

Possible talking point: She's baaaaaack!

Sen. Hillary Clinton told a gathering of supporters last week that she's looking for a "strategy" for her delegates to have their voices heard and "respected" at the Democratic National Convention -- and did not rule out the possibility of having her name placed into nomination at the convention alongside Sen. Barack Obama's. "I happen to believe that we will come out stronger if people feel that their voices were heard and their views were respected. I think that is a very big part of how we actually come out unified," Clinton, D-N.Y., said at a California fundraiser last Thursday, in a video clip captured by an attendee and posted on YouTube.

Is Hillary still in it to steal it?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/08/07/open-thread

-- August 7, 2008 5:43 PM


Sara wrote:

You just Gotta love Hillary's last line in this new McCain ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA

-- August 7, 2008 5:50 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Yes, hats off to General Petraeus for saving the American economy. The future economic benefit to America, of a successful outcome in Iraq, extends into the future, several decades.

Because Iraq will be a success, American oil companies will earn hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue, by helping Iraq develop it's resources, over the next few decades.

Because Iraq will be a success, the American government will be able to tax those oil revenues, which will add to the public treasury, lightening the burden of the American taxpayer, and help pay off the cost of the war.

Because Iraq will be a success, a lot more oil will be on the market, which will suppress it's price, compared to what it would be, with an unstable Iraq.

Because Iraq will be a success, America will have a dependable energy source, as the long transition, several decades long, to a non-oil based economy, takes place.

Because Iraq will be a success, the middle east will be a lot more stable, in the long run, which will stabilize oil prices into the future, which will be an incredible economic benefit to the American consumer.

You don't like $4 a gallon gas? Worried it will go higher, putting a crimp in your family's travel plans? Then thank General Petraeus for finishing his job in Iraq, which will ensure that a large future source of American gas and oil, will be stable.

This will stabilize gas prices, as much as supply and demand will allow.

Iraq has about 25% of all the cheap and easy to develop oil left in the world. Developing those resources in what will be a safe and secure country, will benefit the American consumer.

So, do you have a car? Do you like to drive? Thank General Petraeus for stabilizing oil prices.

So, yes, hats off to General Petraeus.

And Americans can also be thankful President Bush gave this great General the support he needed to finish the job.

-- August 7, 2008 8:24 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

Sara....

The Democratic convention should certainly be interesting. I believe Hillary will provide the fireworks!

Not only will she throw Obama under the bus....she will kneecap him before she does her planned deed!

-- August 8, 2008 12:42 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

I noted that you quoted the below to Rob N.'s article.

Dan 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever He will..
God gives the rulership of a country to whomever He wills, and this is a part of that plan to assure them that power they seek.

I found it interesting as I am currently reading a book entitled: The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of The United States by Benjamin F. Morris. It's a book about how the United States was founded by the founding fathers on the Christian Faith. Although, I have only received it today and I am only on the Prelogue written by Byron Sunderland Washington, D.C., April 14, 1863-- I am indebited to him for writing this book about our Christian Heritage. Sunderland is writing in this introduction, about the spirituality of a nation and sin is a reproach to any nation and adds to the decay of any nation wherein it is found. He also spoke of the blessings of america and God providence and guidance and how Christians should separate themselves from all connection with openly vicious and corrupt, and from all countenance and support of those whose life and example will not bear the scrutiny of common decency and morality. I will quote his next statement that I found to be profound--- due to such partianship we (as a country) are seeing Washington these days.

"And if in a representative government like ours there must be political divisions, and a conflict of the suffrages of the people, let there be a Christian party, --a party that will not sustain by their sympathy or their votes ment who are known to be in sentiment and life, by precept and example, unchristian and untrue to the great principles of the Christian faith; for the highest treason of which mankind are capable is treason against the authority and law of the Divine government itself; and the most deadly enemies to human government are they who, with a great pretense of Loyalty, are nevertheless daily insulting the majesty of Him who has power to destroy nations at his will."

The author of this introduction is speaking of a people who have an obligation to learn righteous and of how God takes a nation down due to sin. It is quite a reminder.

It is quite a reading for all to learn of how this nation is founded on Christian principles and institutions for our nation. I know, I am gratiful to them for this great land and for protecting our freedoms in our great constitution.


Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 12:45 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Tsalagi,

I agree with you, the Democratic Convention is going to be interesting. Hillary is going to be a factor-- I believe.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 12:51 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

I would listen to the Hillary quote except is appears the site has taken out the audio. My audio is on full and nothing comes out. It must be a democratic block to not allow us to listen.

My sister got on and she can listen to other sites---

So... the above is my conclusion. What Hillary said, must be a good one.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 1:09 AM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts, if these benefits you posted are ever to accrue to the American people.. the American people must vote to see this Iraqi project through to completion. That means not following Obama's plan based on an arbitrary and inflexible date to pull out, but one based only on conditions on the ground - allowing the Iraqi troops to stand up as the US and coalition forces stand down.

Tsalagi - it should indeed be interesting to see how the DNC convention will go. Perhaps they are seeking to stir up controversy just to have people tune in for the fight.. with all those entertainment people from Hollywood endorsing their party, someone has got to have advised them on how to get the greatest spectacle out of this fight.

Laura - Your quote, "they who, with a great pretense of Loyalty, are nevertheless daily insulting the majesty of Him who has power to destroy nations at his will." is the phrase that caught my eye from your excellent post. It is true that the founding fathers had a reverence for God and a recognition that the ability to establish or destroy a nation was in the hands of God alone. Certainly, few in the MSM believe this.

As for the youtube video.. do any of the other youtube videos work for you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA
That is the url, try again. Perhaps you need to reinstall flash player?

Here, try this video on youtube and see if it works:
Budweiser Tribute to the Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv8Ozt8BplI

If it doesn't work.. go here:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

Redownload the player and then try them both again.

Sara.

-- August 8, 2008 7:04 AM


Sara wrote:

U.S. Lawmakers Take Aim at Homegrown Terrorist Threat
Thursday, August 07, 2008
By Catherine Herridge

WASHINGTON — Many Americans believe that the threat of homegrown terrorism is gravest in Europe, but according to the U.S. government, in the last 18 months more than a half-dozen plots were thwarted right here at home.

Sen. Joe Lieberman says the threat is growing.

"Bottom line: There is a threat of homegrown terror in America," he said. "It is not as great as in European cities, but it is growing and we have to take it seriously."

Three young Ohioans were convicted in June on terrorism charges after officials gathered evidence against them that included suicide bomb belts filled with ball bearings.

Mohammed Amawi, Marwan el-Hindi and Wassim Mazloum were part of a terror cell in Toledo that wanted to launch attacks against U.S. troops overseas — made all the easier by their status as Americans.

"Being an American gives you a passport around the world," said Andrew Cochran, chairman of the Counterterrorism Foundation and editor of the Counterterrorism blog. "These again are instances of homegrowns who take it to the limit. ... These people wanted to go all the way to Iraq."

Other homegrown terrorists have planned attacks on the homefront. Derrick Shareef, then just 22, was inspired by a violent Islamist ideology to plan a grenade attack against a shopping mall in Rockford, Ill. He eventually pleaded guilty to terror charges.

According to experts, young, middle-class American Muslims are most at risk — men who don't know a lot about their religion and in an effort to educate themselves fall victim to an extreme ideology.

Yet American Muslim groups say that formula amounts to racial profiling.

"Giving parameters as far as race, religious views or age groups really misses the point. We should be much more sophisticated in the way we approach threats against our country," Shora said.

U.S. lawmakers also are looking at ways of addressing the root causes of homegrown terrorism.

"We also have to ... reach out and grab the hearts and minds, particularly of young Muslim-American males," Lieberman said "We've got to count on their family members and close friends if they see them heading in this direction."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399842,00.html

-- August 8, 2008 7:58 AM


Sara wrote:

I thought this commentary put it very well concerning the Presidential campaign..
This is a shortened form (worth reading the whole thing if you have time).

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POLITICS: Why Obama's Flip-Flops Matter
August 7, 2008

Let's compare the two:

John McCain was so loyal to the men he was imprisoned with he endured torture on their behalf.

Barack Obama associates with those who can help his career, and throws them right under the bus when they become inconvenient to his aspirations.

That single issue of character matters more than all the others combined. You can trust John McCain. You can trust Barack Obama to use you as a stepping stone.

Conclusion

John McCain has the strength and determination to be the Commander in Chief, in good times and bad; by long years of trial we have seen what he is made of, what he stands for, and when he is and isn't willing to change his position. His "maverick" nature may make it impossible to be 100% certain where he'll come out in particular domestic-policy debates, but on the whole, any reasonably astute observer of the political scene knows what we are getting with McCain.

None of that can be said with any confidence about Obama. He's a dot-com stock, a subprime loan, an email enticing you to help him transfer money if you send some now - no track record, no established management, no earnings, no visible means of support, just a lot of promises that keep changing every time you ask. He will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. Obama has staked his entire campaign on the value of "just words," and now even the words are changing. His appeal may prove durable to the young, seeing everything for the first time. But at the end of the day, how can we know what this man is made of? We can only hope. How can we know what he stands for? We can only hope. What can we do if we wake up early next year and discover he's not what we hoped for? We can only pray.

http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2008/08/politics_why_ob.php

-- August 8, 2008 8:17 AM


Sara wrote:

‘Two U.S. Aircraft Carriers Head for Gulf Region'
Written by Adam Gonn
Published Thursday, August 07, 2008

Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.

Kuwait began finalizing its “emergency war plan” on being told the vessels were bound for the region.

The U.S. Navy will neither confirm nor deny that carriers are currently en route. U.S. Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment because of what a spokesman termed “force-protection policy.”

Meanwhile, the Arabic news agency Moheet reported at the end of July that an unnamed American destroyer, accompanied by two Israeli naval vessels traveled through the Suez Canal from the Mediterranean. A week earlier, a U.S. nuclear submarine accompanied by a destroyer and a supply ship moved into the Mediterranean, according to Moheet.

The ship movements coincide with the latest downturn in relations between Washington and Tehran. The U.S. and Iran are at odds over Iran’s nuclear program, which the Bush administration claims is aimed at producing material for nuclear weapons; however, Tehran argues it is only for power generation.

Kuwait, like other Arab countries in the Gulf, fears it will be caught in the middle should the U.S. decide to launch an air strike against Iran if negotiations fail. The Kuwaitis are finalizing details of their security, humanitarian and vital services, the newspaper reported.

http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=22347

-- August 8, 2008 8:22 AM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts and Board;
A little sweetner to the Iraqi Dinar investment, quote:

Iraq has 115 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, the third largest in the world, but the government believes the country's actual oil reserves may be three times as high.

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Iraq to resume oil exploration after 20 year pause
Thu Aug 7, 2008
By Wisam Mohammed

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq will resume searching for oil on Friday for the first time in two decades, the oil ministry said on Thursday, in the hope of finding vast reserves that lay undiscovered because of sanctions and war.

Iraq has 115 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, the third largest in the world, but the government believes the country's actual oil reserves may be three times as high.

Asim Jihad, spokesman for Oil Ministry, said it had trained three teams of geophysicists, geologists and engineers and would kick off exploration in the Gharraf field in Nassiriya in southern Iraq on Friday.

"Tomorrow, the equipment will be turned on to start the first oil exploration for 20 years, at a ceremony which will be attended by the oil minister and senior officials," Jihad said on Thursday.

Jihad said Iraq had only used about a fifth of the country's 500 possible oil-producing sites and they needed to explore more to try and confirm potential reserves.

"These three teams are part of a group the oil ministry formed to renew exploration activity in order to change the unconfirmed reserves to confirmed ones," he said.

The first team will carry out seismic tests on the Gharraf field using up-to-date technology supplied by international companies, he said.

Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih told Reuters in April he had seen estimates from "reputable companies" that put Iraq's oil reserves at some 350 billion barrels, a massive figure which would put the country ahead of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is currently ranked first in the world with proven reserves of about 264 billion barrels, followed by Iran with some 137 billion and then Iraq on 115 billion.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKN0725356520080807

-- August 8, 2008 9:01 AM


Sara wrote:

POLL: Bring troops home from Iraq before winning the war falls below 50 percent
49% Say Bring Home the Troops, 42% Say Win the War First
Friday, August 08, 2008

The number of Americans who believe getting the troops home from Iraq is more important than winning the war there has fallen below 50% for the first time since Rasmussen Reports began polling on the question in May.

Forty-nine percent (49%) of voters still feel that way, while 42% place more importance on winning the war in Iraq. The latter shows a slight increase in that position.

By contrast, in mid-May, 52% said bringing the troops home was more important than winning the war, which only 39% rated as more important.

In recent weeks, Americans also have shown record confidence that the United States is winning the war on terror.

Voters continue to see the outcomes in Iraq as widely different depending on which of the presidential candidates is elected in November.

54% believe that the United States is likely to win the war in Iraq if McCain is elected, while only 25% think that is possible if Obama becomes the next president.

In the 2004 election cycle, 51% of voters said making sure Iraq becomes "a peaceful nation enjoying freedom and democracy" was more important than bringing U.S. soldiers home right away. Thirty-nine percent (39%) believed bringing the troops home was more important.

Americans also still trust McCain far more on national security issues than Obama. In the latest survey, the Republican leads 52% to 40%, up from the eight-point lead he held the week before.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/the_war_in_iraq/49_say_bring_home_the_troops_42_say_win_the_war_first

-- August 8, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Mosul International Aiport to reopen in August

Iraqi Minister of Transport, Amir Abdul-Jabbar, has announced that Mosul International Airport will reopen later this month once repair and upgrade works are completed that redevelopment work will soon start on Al-Maaqil port.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 8, 2008 9:56 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

U.N. Iraq mandate renewed; Baghdad wants more U.N. help
Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:03am EDT

By Megan Davies

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.N. Security Council voted on Thursday to keep the United Nations mission in Iraq for another year, as Baghdad urged the world body to do more to help it transform into a functioning democracy.

Amid stalled provincial elections, Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations said he would like the body to boost its presence and clout. Part of the organization's task in Iraq, he said, is to help sort out internal border disputes and aid dialogue with neighboring countries.

"There is a lot to do," Hamid al-Bayati told reporters.

The five-year-old U.N. mission in Iraq, known as UNAMI, is made up of more than 1,000 troops, civilian staff and security personnel. Its mandate was beefed up a year ago to give the body an expanded political role.

Extension of the mandate, due to expire August 10, was unanimously approved by the 15-nation Security Council.

"Today's unanimous support for the extension of mandate is a recognition that what happened in Iraq is important for the world," said U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Zalmay Khalilzad. "Everyone wants Iraq to succeed and for the U.N. to play its role in helping Iraqis."

The resolution says security for U.N. staff in Iraq, where insurgents continue to attack U.S.-led foreign troops, is "essential." The U.N. mandate for international troops, which currently provides security protection for the U.N. staff, is set to expire in December.

Washington is negotiating a bilateral security agreement with Iraq to cover the period once the mandate for foreign troops expires and Bayati said an agreement was close on this.

Still fresh in the minds of diplomats and staff is a truck-bomb attack which destroyed the U.N. office in Baghdad on August 19, 2003, killing 22 people. The blast led to a temporary withdrawal of U.N. staff from Iraq.

But security has improved dramatically since that day, Bayati said, adding that the government has also allocated a parcel of land in Baghdad to the U.N. for a new base there.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 8, 2008 10:03 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

If Hillary were to have a chance to steal the nomination, she'd have to have some pretty heavy dirt on Obama, released "just in time" for the convention, by a supposedly neutral third party. The Clinton's wouldn't be that dirty, would they? They wouldn't set off a stink bomb at the convention, would they? Probably not. Oh well....

If Iraq really DOES HAVE, as many of us suspect, the lartgest oil reserves in the world, and if geologists are now assessing that possibility, what with gas at $4 a gallon, with an election coming up, with the price of energy the number one economic concern of voters, and with the voters already saying John McCain was far more likely to win the war in Iraq, and thus help stabilize Iraq, and oil prices, then under these conditions, it's not likely that the new oil data would be made widely known to the public, on the major networks, in time to influence the November election, would it? That would seem too obvious....

-- August 8, 2008 10:36 AM


cornishboy wrote:

The Central Bank Of Iraq started to unify the reserved monetary rate among the governmental and private banks

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The Iraqi Central Bank Consultant stated to Aswat Al Iraq about the new instructions will be effective from Sunday, the mandatory standardization of cash reserve ratio in government and private banks in the same ratio.
Dr. Modhir Mohamed Saleh, told the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq), that there was a "new instructions issued by the Central Bank of Iraq apply to all banks, starting from (Sunday), and provides for the Standardization of the compulsory reserve rate (25%) of all bank deposits , Whether governmental or civil deposits. "
He explained that the figure "will be distributed by (5%) will be kept in cash in the coffers of these banks, and the (20%) remaining deposited in their accounts with the Central Bank of Iraq, and are treated in accordance with the mechanisms and regulations currently applied in this regard."
Saleh pointed out that the compulsory reserve "for the governmental banks (75%), which was considered by those banks that affect the performance and limit the expansion in granting credit, which made the Central Bank to unify the compulsory reserve ratio for the private banks of the original (25% ) Only. "
The Consultant of the Central Bank of Iraq added "the new instructions not to be used surpluses of bank deposits resulting from the government exclusively, investment in deposit accounts for facilitation, or remittances CBE, or use for the purpose of public financing debt through participation in Treasury auction remittances, as it prevents cross-loan lending between banks. "
He added " and to allow (banking surpluses) to go to invest about all forms of bank credit."
D. Madhar Saleh said this procedure "designed to make the government deposits with banks geared towards the granting of loans and bank transaction, and not proceed for returning good profits only without having a role in the economic process."
The instruction "allowed banks to invest all surpluses in the banking tools of Central Bank of Iraq and remittances Treasury, and any other tools available, with the exception of surpluses arising from bank deposits, government, a rate not exceeding (35%) of the total surpluses resulting from public deposits only."
Saleh said that these instructions "aimed to motivate banks to market orientation, and to assign monetary policy trends in the provision of credit and bank financing required by the local state, and address the unemployment and economic stagnation, and continuing to face the inflation and price signals adopted by Central Bank to target inflation and achieving a unified framework of stability and economic growth desired.
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/34831

-- August 8, 2008 11:39 AM


Carole wrote:

Tim,

Whatever, and whenever,(obviously before the DNC) the delegates THINK Obama has no chance of winning the General Election, they will throw him under the bus.

My suspicion is that if Mc Cain gets too far behind in the polls, there will be some benign security event to wake up America----again! And keep the Republicans in power.

Something quite significant happened that has not hit the news. Obama just spent 700k+ refurbishing his 727 plane, and had the American flag removed and replaced it with his own Obama Symbol.

I am trying to get this to the conservative talk people, but I have a glitch in my computer that won't let me do it.

Mc Cain needs to emphasize more on what has happened to American lives in the last 20 months since Congress was won over by Democrats.
Something like " Has your life changed drastically in the last 20 months....?"

It will stop the dems. dead with their question " are you better off now then you were 4 years sgo?"

4 years ago...milk and honey.
15 months ago and continuing, drastic decline in American lives as far as economic future and security. Average Americans are watching their dreams and savings and hard work go down the drain.

Carole

-- August 8, 2008 11:42 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

Been waiting and watching for those Aircraft carriers to make move....here we go. get ready....and Iranians hold on to your behinds!
And Americans war ready your own fortresses!

Carole

-- August 8, 2008 11:47 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

I was able to find the problem this am due to my sister. I had layed the book in front of the keyboard and I was also eating fries and chicken nuggets. I laid the plate on one side of the keyboard and I did not notice that the key board has a sound device on the very edge of the keyboard. One button turns off and one the sound and next to this is is up and down volume buttons. As I normally use the power strip, I did not even know I had this on the key board. I will have to be more careful about where I lay my paper plate from now on.

My family and I have been remodeling the kitchen, two bathrooms, dining and living rooms to each our bedrooms as we had tile layed professionally. New kitchen cabinets were installed but we have no counters and therefore no sinks installed at this time. Therefore, we have decided to use paper cups and plates until the professional granite guy can come and install counters. We are trying to our share to stimulate the economy!!! Ha! Ha!

Again, thank you for supplying the sites. I did listen to them. Barack only has a speech he gave in 2002. I thought that funny coming from Hillary! I had originally thought I was up against a Left Wing conspiracy!

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 11:56 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

I think the USA moving two aircraft carriers into the gulf maybe significant. However, I still think that President Bush will wait until the election is over. I maybe wrong--- but we will see. It could be that Bush will need more months to clean up the situation until he leaves office--- but I think even Bush is mindful of what impact an attack will have on the election.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 12:06 PM


Sara wrote:

OK, let's see.. for a long time there has been this undercurrent in the blogsphere about a possible scandal in the Obama camp. It just broke into the open. For those who don't know.. this was the scuttlebutt.. followed by what is now admitted to be true (damage control).
Part A:

===

John Edwards' Love Child Scandal Threatens Obama
Democrats are concerned the love child scandal may hurt their candidate Obama.
Friday, August 08, 2008

Once again it is the British media that leads the way on this HUGE Democratic scandal.
The corrupt and biased US midia still refuses to report on this story.
Ann Coulter said the media's reaction to the John Edwards' "love child" scandal has been reminiscent of the Soviet press. True.
Today The Daily Mail reported:

Barack Obama's supporters yesterday tried to distance him from a potentially damaging sex scandal.

His possible running mate John Edwards faced renewed suggestions that he had a love child.

Mr Edwards was ordered to come clean on rumours of an affair with a campaign aide or stay away from the party.

Party organisers are furious that Mr Edwards - a major Democrat figure - has refused to deny that he is the father of Rielle Hunter's daughter Frances.

Mr Edwards, 55, dropped his own bid for the presidency in January after coming a distant third behind Mr Obama and Hillary Clinton, but he had been expected to make a rousing speech at the Denver convention later this month.

Rumours that Mr Edwards, whose wife Elizabeth is battling breast cancer, fathered the child were ignored by the mainstream media until yesterday when the National Enquirer printed a grainy photograph allegedly showing Mr Edwards cradling the baby in a Los Angeles hotel room last month.

Mr Edwards dismissed earlier Enquirer stories about his affair with Miss Hunter, a 44-year-old campaign videographer, as 'tabloid trash'.

The magazine released the 'spy-cam' photo supposedly showing Mr Edwards inside the hotel room on July 21 as proof.

When reporters confronted him in the lobby he fled into the men’s toilets and refused to come out until he was rescued by security guards.

...By yesterday afternoon newspapers, television stations and websites across America were running the story – infuriating Democratic leaders who want the focus to remain on Mr Obama, the 47-year-old Illinois senator who will square off against Republican John McCain in the November 4 election.

The National Enquirer released a photo of Father of the Year award winner John Edwards with love child Frances Quinn Hunter born Feb. 27 to Rielle Hunter.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/democrats-were-lying-about-tire.html

THAT was the scuttlebutt.. but now, (next post) what John Edwards says is the truth..

-- August 8, 2008 3:43 PM


Carole wrote:

Laura,

Given the "war ready" situation in Israel, and the secret meetings between our Secretary of Defense and Israeli counterparts, as well as top generals, I do believe the moving of Air craft carriers is extremely significant.

Bush invaded Iraq pre-election season, because he needed to. I have questioned many issues concerning Bush ( father and son), but the one thing that leaves no question in my mind is his going forward in whatever direction he deems correct and necessary, is not motivated by political strategy.

Time will tell on this one, and probably sooner than later.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Carole

-- August 8, 2008 3:47 PM


Sara wrote:

So much for the accusations of "tabloid journalism"..

===

Edwards Admits To Lying About Affair
From the archives of the Edwards campaign and a despondent ABC News:

Edwards Admits Sexual Affair; Lied as Presidential Candidate
In ABC News Interview, Edwards Says He Cheated, but Did Not Father Child
By RHONDA SCHWARTZ and BRIAN ROSS

August 8, 2008 — John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extra-marital affair with a novice film-maker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.

In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 42-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.

Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter’s baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.

Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.

A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.

According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience.

Edwards said the affair began during the campaign after she was hired. Hunter traveled with Edwards around the country and to Africa.

Edwards said his wife, Elizabeth, and others in his family became aware of the affair in 2006.

Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter. Elizabeth Edwards has since been diagnosed with an incurable form of the disease.

When the National Enquirer first reported the alleged Edwards-Hunter affair last October 11, Edwards, his campaign staff and Hunter vociferously denounced the report.

“The story is false, it’s completely untrue, it’s ridiculous,” Edwards told reporters then.

He repeated his denials just two weeks ago.

Edwards today admitted the National Enquirer was correct when it reported he had visited Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.

The former Senator said his wife had not known about the meeting.

Since becoming pregnant, Hunter has lived under assumed names in a series of expensive homes in North Carolina and, more recently, in Santa Barbara, California.

Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him.

He said he would ask questions about any possible arrangement.

===end quote===

Oh, our sides.

How much you want to bet the outrage is far less than that expressed at Ann Coulter’s harmless “fag” joke?

In fact, it will probably soon be argued that she forced Mr. Edwards into this, to prove his manliness.

But do click on the YouTube click and suffer through its five plus minutes, if you want to see this outrageously smug hypocrite at his very best.

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVvll0n0epA
[From the Edwards campaign:] John Edwards - Q&A: Faith & Honesty

Meanwhile, here is a flashback to an article we posted back in October… Some comic relief from the Associated Press:

Edwards shifts focus to integrity
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Tue Oct 30

EXETER, N.H. - Democrat John Edwards is trying to turn the Democratic presidential race into a referendum on honesty and integrity, areas where polling has shown that voters are divided about Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The argument marks a shift in a race where Edwards and Clinton’s other Democratic opponents have criticized her stance on policy but usually have avoided taking on her character directly. In an interview Monday with The Associated Press, Edwards said Clinton is part of a corrupt Washington system.

“Good people are caught up in this system, and I’ve given some examples of the places that I think she’s caught up in it,” Edwards said. “And I also, secondly, think that she continues to defend it. And I don’t think you can bring up the change this country needs if you defend a corrupt system that doesn’t work.

“The closer we get to the election and the more people move past celebrity and to the issues such as honesty, integrity and who can actually bring about change, I think they are going to pay very close attention to those questions,” Edwards said while riding in a minivan between campaign stops.

Edwards is a former trial lawyer…

==end quote==

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 8th, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/shocker-edwards-admits-lying-about-affair

-- August 8, 2008 3:53 PM


Carole wrote:

I think the Democratic Party is self destructing.
But let's make certain distinctions here.
We must keep a watchful eye on perhaps the BIGGEST ISSUE!
Sorry to say it will come down to Black vs White.

To turn a blind eye to that is naive and irresponsible. I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE OBAMA IS THE WRONG BLACK CANDIDATE!
I would have loved nothing better than to lived through the generation that made that kind of history. But I guess I will have to wait a little longer.

Blacks are being recruited to register to vote beyond any statistics recorded in our history. Sorry to say, energy costs, the war, health care reform, social security reform, housing financing reform...all take a WAY BACK SEAT to "having a black president".


It is what it is guys!

Carole

-- August 8, 2008 4:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole and Laura;

On the issue of Iran.. I read a blog entry commenting on the article I quoted above and thought it worth repeating. The commentator said, QUOTE:

According to one website, the US currently has plans to surge six carriers in the late summer/September time frame.

It is my belief the plan is to back an ultimatum to Iran and, should it fail, war. Alternatively, Bush has decided that he will let Israel hit the first blow, if Iran does anything the US follows up.

The moment of truth is coming.

==end quote==

Sobering.
Those do appear the choices..

- Stand back and let Israel decide.
- If Iran attacks, follow up.
- If Iran won't stop making nukes, at some point.. there will have to be confrontation.
- All of the above.

Don't you think we need someone we can trust in the Whitehouse in case any part of such a scenerio plays out?
Someone who has done more than give a speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA

Sara.

-- August 8, 2008 4:14 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole, Sara and All,

Look to DEBKAfile.Com, the Israelis News source to see what is happening militarily. Our head general went to Lebanon due to the crisis. It appears that Iran, Syria took over two very high mountains with rockets to aim at Israel. The complete news letter would be worth reading. Apparently, these rockets can be aimed at American forces and most of Israel; as well as, give an early warning response to Iran of an inpending attack on their nuclear facilities. Apparently, the military is giving Iran something to think about with the carriers in their waters.

Then Syria and Iran took over the country politically. It's a question, who really is running Lebanon.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 6:09 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

In the DEBKfile.Com Israelis newspaper, another article is on Georgia and Russia is involved militarily with the takeover of their capital. The dispute is over the routing of oil pipelines and USA influence of oil companies. Russian wants the oil to go through their pipelines. Israel is involved in helping the Georgian's defend themselves. I think this has to do with Iraqi oil and the plan of Iraq to send oil thru Turkey and Israel pipeline networks with western oil companies.

Take a look. We will have to look at international news as our own news networks will not simply cover the news.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 6:31 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

After reading the article a little more carefully, it would appear that Georgia is trying to route its oil and gas lines through Israel and Turkey instead of through Russian lines. The president of Georgia is pro-western and Russia does not like this new stance.

I was thinking that since Iraq is running oil through Turkey that the oil pipeline maybe related. Apparently not.

However, I find the timing a little unsettling with Iran and Syria. Iran has very good ties with Russia. I had an atlas out recently and Iran's northern border is with their neighbor Russia.

I am betting that all this is tied together.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 6:48 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I stated that the atlas I was reading showed Russia to border Iran and this is true in 1976. The country is Turkistand now... a former satellite of Russia and it may still be.

On the situation in Georgia, Russia's other former satellite, it would appear that Georgia is trying to get oil and gas line to go through Turkey and Israel. Russia appears to be against this as Georgia is going pro-western and this would cut out Russian's oil and gas pipelines of the fees mother russia gets from Georgia.

I am thinking that western oil companies maybe thinking about the threat of Iran to cut off the strait to oil and it is reported this deal would take the oil/natural gas pipeline to the red sea. This maybe the factor of western oil companies.

However, Iraq is reporting that Kurdish separatist are bombing Turkey oil pipe lines. One wonders, how much Iran, Syria and Russia are behind all of this?.

There are news articles from the Israelis that Al-Qaida has set up terrorist cells in the West Bank and Gaza with support from Iran weaponry. With the two mountains in Lebanon and with Gaza, Israel can be hit on their entire country except the corner.

Sounds like a coordinated effort.

Laura Parker

-- August 8, 2008 9:00 PM


Carole wrote:

Laura, Sara,

It was told to me by an Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, that Aircraft Carriers will move in when an attack on Iran is eminent, to protect the strait that Iran has threatened to disable and block if attacked. He also said that even though Iran has missiles launched and ready to strike that area, they are absolutely no match for the power on those aircraft carriers.

By the way, have you ever read the detail of the UN Sanctions given to Iran? They are a joke! I just read them today. If I were a terrorist organization with an agenda like those in Iran and N. Korea, I would be laughing all the way to the bank. The UN was, is, and always will be an ineffective institution( at the very least ). AND MORE THAN LIKELY ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ENEMIES-GLOBALLY.

AND THEY TAKE UP ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE PIECES OF REALESTATE IN THE WORLD! AND WE, AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ,PAY THEIR RENT!

Carole

-- August 8, 2008 11:30 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole and Laura;

Certainly, the pressure Iran must feel now will assure the international community that if Iran harbors any peaceful intentions they will now find a way to express that in the diplomatic arena.. before it turns into a war theatre.

Hey, RVing the Dinar would be a good way to delay the inevitable confrontation for a while longer. :)
Maybe it would cool the tone and the military strategy as the economic leg took off?
If everyone busys themselves with RV.. they may lay down their weapons and stand down a little, for a while at least.
Just a suggestion.. RV beats imminent war.. choosing between the two, I would suggest RVing.
Who knows what a little breathing space might do for international relations?
There seems enough turmoil to deal with.. with Iran and now Georgia.
We don't need to add Iran to the war news.

Sara.

-- August 9, 2008 12:19 AM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

I like your suggestions. It would be my choice! But I don't have rockets shooting into my neighborhood and my children attacked and threatened with anniliation.

Your are right that the confrontation is inevitable! To put it off much longer only continues to empower Iran( yep! Syria and Russia) to advance their agenda, which threatens the world as we know it today.

On a different note..the John Edwards scandal.

I watched Hilary and Mc Cain give their responses to the issue. It was interesting to say the least.
Both were pale in color, and slumped in stature. Both had scars. Hilary as a victim, and Mc Cain as a perpetrator.

Hilary, a victim of infidelity, as the whole world knows.

Mc Cain, with a similar despicable history as Edwards. Cindy Mc Cain was John Mc Cains mistress as Mc Cain's first wife ( Carol Shoupe) struggled with recovery from her devastating car accident which left her seriously disabled.

Hilary and Mc Cains response was very appropriate..."NO COMMENT"

When personal character was redefined as a requirement for leadership and public office, the results is what the American people have to deal with now. A travesty!

Carole

-- August 9, 2008 8:37 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole, Sara and All,

I went to the Italian news service to see how they are reporting the news. Nothing is showing except a disturbing news item on a Pro-Iranian Shia Imam in Saudia Arabia by the name of Namer Baqer Al-Namer. He supposely is telling his followers to send money to Iran as he believes the USA thinks it is the only one entitled to nuclear power militarily. He believes if Iran is attacked, they have every right to close the straits of Hormuz.

Iman Namer Baqer Al-Namer preached this sermon at Imam Hussein Mosque in eastern village Al-Awamiya on Friday. Of course, the mosque is teaching Wahhabism.

I don't understand why Saudia Arabia doesn't get it. Iran is a threat to their way of life. Anyway, the article is an old one dated 7/15/2008.

Laura Parker

-- August 9, 2008 11:14 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

Fortunately, Saudi Arabia is not a dictatorship. They have quite a bit of freedom, really. And the government has extremist groups just as we have extremist groups over here. So I don't think it is government sanctioned to give their enemies money.. anymore than when the KKK and white supremists here hope that Obama gets in to kickstart their cause. If these white supremacists were to advocate to their membership to support Obama financially so their cause would be helped, it wouldn't be official policy of the government, either.

Sara.

===

Supremacists hope for boost from Obama win
Anticipate election of a black president would jar whites into action
Fri., Aug. 8, 2008,
Associated Press

PEARL, Miss. - Richard Barrett is a 65-year-old lawyer who traveled the country for 40 years advocating what he perceives as the white side in racial issues. Barrett is convinced Democrat Obama will defeat Republican John McCain in November.

And that could cause an upheaval, Barrett, a leader in the Nationalist Movement, told The Associated Press in an interview at his rural Mississippi home.

"Instead of this so-called civil rights bill, for example, that says you have to give preferences to minorities, I think the American people are going — once they see the 'Obamanation' — they're going to demand a tweaking of that and say, 'You have to put the majority into office,'" Barrett said.

Across the United States, some white supremacists are saying an Obama presidency could create a racial backlash that will give their groups a boost.

Barrett is evasive about his ideology and tries to keep reporters from using "buzz words" to describe him. He doesn't call himself a white supremacist, although the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center do.

The law center tracks the Nationalist Movement, the Klan and like-minded groups from its Montgomery, Ala., headquarters. The center's "Hatewatch" newsletter reported in June that some neo-Nazis, Klansmen and anti-Semites are saying an Obama presidency could prompt a race war, which many on the "radical right" believe whites would win.

Although not all white supremacists agree, "large numbers of these people really seem to think that an Obama election would benefit them hugely," Mark Potok, the center's intelligence director, said in an interview.

Duke, the former Klan leader, posted an essay on his Web site in June titled, "Obama Wins Demo Nomination: A Black Flag for White America."

Obama "will be a clear signal for millions of our people," Duke wrote. "Obama is a visual aid for White Americans who just don't get it yet that we have lost control of our country, and unless we get it back we are heading for complete annihilation as a people."

Although the South has had more racial violence than most of the country, Randy Blazak, a sociology professor at Oregon's Portland State University, says white supremacists live all over the United States. Blazak, who has studied skinheads for two decades, calls white supremacists a counterculture, not a movement, contending the latter term overstates their numbers.

Barrett, a New York City native who moved to Mississippi in 1966, said the Nationalist Movement has members in 36 states, but he won't say how many. He compares today's skinheads to the minutemen of the American Revolution.

"The Revolution, if you will, in 1776 brought the 13 colonies together against the king. And the same thing can happen now against Martin Luther King, with the 50 states," Barrett said, if Obama's elected.

Barrett says he is a Democrat but won't say whether he's voting for Obama. He'll only say he won't support McCain, Libertarian Bob Barr or independent Ralph Nader.

Kim Edwards of Matteson, Ill., a black woman who traveled to Mississippi with a racially mixed group so her son could play in a baseball tournament, is more skeptical. Edwards worries that extremists want Obama to be elected so they can assassinate him.

"I'm really concerned for his safety," said Edwards, who plans to vote for Obama. "I'm concerned that if he gets in office he won't be recognized as an American president."

However, former Mississippi Gov. William Winter, a white Democrat who served on President Clinton's commission on racial reconciliation, doesn't foresee widespread white backlash if Obama is elected.

"We are a diverse country," said Winter, who supports Obama. "We are made up of people of every conceivable racial background."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087413/

-- August 9, 2008 1:29 PM


Sara wrote:

Newsbusters also picked up on the Associated Press article and they note that this is a small percentage of the population.. perhaps the extremist in Saudi Arabia urging money to be sent to Iran is also not representative of their entire culture and country??

===

AP Knows Racists Secretly Want Obama to Win in Nov.
By Warner Todd Huston
August 9, 2008

Do you know who the Associated Press thinks is secretly hoping for a Barack Obama win? Why, it's "racist groups," dontcha know? See, as the AP reports it, a black man as president couldn't be a more perfect example of how the dark race is takin' over and ruining the white man's world, right? At least, that is according to the AP's favorite go-to racist guy, David Duke, anyway. And what better way for the AP to prove that only racists oppose Obama, eh?

AP decided to dredge up the aforementioned David Duke to let the country know that "the racists" are wringing their hands in a gleeful expectation that a president Barack will swell the ranks of the KKK and other racist groups. Sternly telling us that "They're not exactly rooting for him, but prominent white supremacists anticipate a boost to their cause if Barack Obama becomes the first black president," the AP lets the cat out of the bag for the hooded set.

Want proof? Well, the AP is happy to give it... such as it is, quote:

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, of Louisiana, said Democrat Obama would be a "visual aid" to the idea that whites have lost control of America.

...and...

Richard Barrett, a 65-year-old lawyer who traveled the country for 40 years advocating what he perceives as the white side in racial issues, is convinced Obama will defeat Republican John McCain in November.

==end quotes==

Run for the hills, folks, cuz "the racists" are coming to town.

But, where is the real news here? We have the claims of two racists prominent in their tiny little world that a black president will send white Americas streaming to the KKK, sure, but what other proof does the AP give us to make this assertion a truism. Well, nothing, really. All the AP has for us is the rants of these two goofy, unimportant, nutcases, is all.

In other words, this report is completely un-newsworthy based only on sensationalism and a salacious taking of the word of two members of society's fringe and making of it a "story." There has been no perceivable rise in racism in America because of Obama's candidacy. There is no corresponding data of swelling in the ranks in racist organizations. In fact, the AP itself notes that it's estimated that only 200,000 Americans belong to a racist organization. 200,000. We have THREE HUNDRED MILLION citizens in this country. Yet, only 200,000 thousand are estimated as belonging to racist organizations. You do the math.

This is not a story. But it is a nice, underhanded way to help Barack Obama prove that any criticism of him is solely based on "racism," just as he keeps trying to intimate with his campaign. The AP is as much as winking, nodding, and slyly saying to America with its hand to its mouth, "see, Obama's right. Only racists oppose him."

So, the whole country will suddenly join the KKK, right? Why, that's gotta be right. After all, the AP found two guys that say so!

Comments:

1) Which Racist will be happy? by richflanj

Which Racist will be happy? William Byrd?

Former Kleagle for the KKK and current DEMOCRAT Senator from West Virginia?

Why didn't the MSM go and get a quote from him? I have the perfect question:

"Senator Byrd, as a KKK recruiter and Kleagle, why would you support Barack Obama for president?"

(I know, I know, hell freezes over and all that....)

2) KKK okay by DontFeedTheTrolls

The democrats are the party of the KKK sooooo. . . the MSM accuses the other side of that, and doesn't report the heavily race based (hence racist) voting of 'African Americans'. Typical.

3) New political alliance by WingletDriver

Maybe the KKK can get together with BHO's church and form a new political alliance: Racists of All Colors for Obama. They could call themselves RACBO.

My question is why wasn't Jeremiah Wright branded a racist when he sounds like the KKK, but David Duke is?

The MSM will bend over backwards making excuses for liberal malfeasance while automatically assuming the absolute worst about conservatives. Jeremiah Wright is a flat out racist and there's no way to spin it, BHO drops the race card and it's McCain's fault, the clinton's play the race card and it's fine. However, Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bennett and George Allen were harangued for completely innocent comments, which could in no way be construed as racist. But the MSM assumes the best about liberals and invents the worst about conservatives.

4) Things that make you "hmmmm" by thebobbo

Wanting to cut Obama's n**s off, is Jessie Jackson planning to join the Klan if Obamarama is elected?

5) Not entirely correct by 10ksnooker

And then again it is correct -- The KKK was and is the terrorist enforcement wing of the Democrat party since the civil war. The purpose of the KKK was to keep the blacks and whites voting the right way, if they allowed them to vote at all -- The right way would be Democrat. This in turn worked to keep the Democrat machine in power so they could rule the world.

I see nothing today that changes that ... The fact that the Democrats took off their sheets, and attempt to hide their racism, makes no difference. Obamba is the ultimate get even with them candidate - Reparation-H for America if you will. Democrats never liked losing the civil war.

Just because some of the tasks and assignments have been taken over by the AP and other DNC front groups, that changes nothing. The plan is still the same. Conquer America, payback.

6) So... if you're rooting for by Jack Bauer

So... if you're rooting for Obama to lose, you're a racist. And if you're rooting for him to win... you're still a racist!

Isn't this the Manmade Global Warming logic (sic)?

When it's hot. That proves global warming. When it's cold, or wet, or windy, or dry, or not windy... that's also caused by global warming. These lefties, so nuanced!

George Orwell coined the correct term in 1948 in Nineteen Eight-Four...

DOUBLETHINK means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. pt 2. ch.9

7) A barack Presidency by MidAmerica

A barack Presidency would not be a black Presidency. It would be a white liberal Presidency. A person with as little life and executive experience as obama would have to be very dependent on his advisors and they are mostly old guard white liberal democrats.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/09/ap-knows-racists-secretly-want-obama-win-nov

I thought that last comment about Obama just being a front-man for others who are pulling the strings was interesting.. who would be calling the shots if he were to win?

I'm glad we'll never know.

Sara.

-- August 9, 2008 3:02 PM


Sara wrote:

Why is the Edwards scandal important, now that he is not running for President? Three very good reasons are given in the below article. However, even more important is that it shows the empowerment of the people over the special interest groups who control the media. A control which has strangled a lot of the positive Iraq coverage for quite some time - favoring continued negative coverage for their special interest masters:

Edwards' admission signals the end of the era in which traditional media set the limits of acceptable political journalism.

===

Old media dethroned
Edwards' admission signals the end of the era in which traditional media set the limits of acceptable political journalism.
Tim Rutten
August 9, 2008

When John Edwards admitted Friday that he lied about his affair with filmmaker Rielle Hunter, a former employee of his campaign, he may have ended his public life but he certainly ratified an end to the era in which traditional media set the agenda for national political journalism.

From the start, the Edwards scandal has belonged entirely to the alternative and new media. The tabloid National Enquirer has done all the significant reporting on it -- reporting that turns out to be largely correct -- and bloggers and online commentators have refused to let the story sputter into oblivion.

Slate's Mickey Kaus has been foremost among the latter, alternately analyzing and speculating on the Enquirer's reporting and ridiculing the mainstream media for a fastidiousness that has seemed, from the start, wholly absurd. Like other commentators, he repeatedly alleged that a double standard that favored Democrats applied to the story. Like the Enquirer's reporting, the special-treatment charge is largely true, as anyone who recalls the media frenzy over conservative commentator and former Cabinet secretary William Bennett's high-stakes gambling would agree.

Edwards, 55, now admits that he had an affair with Hunter, now 44,in 2006, but denies that he is the father of the child she had in February. Andrew Young, another former Edwards aide, has said he is the baby's father. In a statement released Friday, Edwards said he was willing to take a paternity test; doubtless we'll hear more on that issue.

So far, so sordid.

But what's really significant here is the cone of silence the nation's major newspapers -- including The Times -- and the cable and broadcast networks dropped over this story when it first appeared in the tabloid during the presidential primary campaign. Next, the Enquirer reported that the unmarried Hunter was pregnant. Still no mainstream media interest. Indeed, never in recent journalistic history have so many tough reporters so closely resembled sheep as those members of the campaign press corps who meekly accepted Edwards' categorical dismissal of the Enquirer's allegations. Late last month, Edwards came to Los Angeles, and Enquirer reporters trailed him to the Beverly Hilton hotel, where he met Hunter and her daughter in their room.

The Enquirer went with the story, and when no major newspaper or broadcast outlet even reported the existence of the tabloid story, bloggers and online commentators redoubled their demands that the mainstream media explain their silence. The tabloid followed with a story alleging payments of hush money to Hunter and, this week, with a photo of Edwards holding an infant in what appears to be a room at the Beverly Hilton. As pressure mounted on major newspapers to take some aspect of the unfolding scandal into account, editors and ombudsmen issued statements saying it would be unfair to publish anything until the Enquirer's stories had been "confirmed."

Well, there's confirming and then there's confirming. One sort occurs when an editor mutters, "Find somebody and have them make a few calls." Then there's the sort that comes when that editor summons an investigative reporter with a heart like ice and a mind like Torquemada's and says, "Follow this wherever it goes and peel this guy like an onion."

Suffice to say that the follow-up of the Enquirer's story fell into the former category in too many newsrooms, including that of The Times.

Some of this reticence may have reflected a regard for the feelings of Edwards' wife, Elizabeth, who has incurable cancer. There was, however, every reason to set that deference aside.

First, it was less than unlikely that Elizabeth Edwards was unaware of the allegations. (She says now she knew of the affair in 2006.) Second, Edwards' name has surfaced as a possible running mate for Barack Obama and as a possible attorney general or Supreme Court nominee -- posts in which character and candor matter. Finally, throughout his political career, Edwards has made his marriage a centerpiece of his campaigns.

It's interesting that what finally forced Edwards into telling the truth was a mainstream media organization. ABC News began investigating the Edwards affair in October, but really began to push after the Beverly Hilton allegations. When ABC confronted Edwards with its story (which confirmed "95% to 96%" of the tabloid's reporting, according to the network), he admitted his deception.

With that admission, the illusion that traditional print and broadcast news organizations can establish the limits of acceptable political journalism joined the passenger pigeon on the roster of extinct Americana.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-newrutten9-2008aug09,0,3175773.column

-- August 9, 2008 3:51 PM


Sara wrote:

A peek into how things would go under each Presidential candidate as Commander-in-chief, in this piece titled ‘Invasion of Georgia’ a ‘3 a.m. moment’
QUOTE:

The candidates’ stances reflect their broader goals in the region. Obama, Rhodes noted, has argued that the American interest... means that the country should maintain a constructive relationship with Russia, even when Russia mistreats its population and threatens its neighbors.

McCain, meanwhile,... suggested that Russia will respond primarily to American toughness and resolve.

==end quote==

Putting that onto the conflict with terrorists.. you end up with either a man who speaks appeasement, or toughness and resolve.
Which is the right strategy for continued national security during a time of war?
Sara.

===

‘Invasion of Georgia’ a ‘3 a.m. moment’
Ben Smith Sat Aug 9, 2008

When the North Caucasus slid into war Thursday night, it presented John McCain and Barack Obama with a true “3 a.m. moment,” and their responses to the crisis suggested dramatic differences in how each candidate, as president, would lead America in moments of international crisis.

The abrupt crisis in an obscure hotspot had the features of the real foreign policy situations presidents face — not the clean hypotheticals of candidates’ white papers and debating points.

Russia has long attempted to reclaim now-sovereign parts of the former Soviet Union, stoking conflicts in the enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which are universally recognized to be Georgian soil. Russia has also used the ensuing military tensions to set back Georgia’s bid to enter NATO.

Both American candidates back Georgia’s sovereignty and its turn toward the West. But their first statements on the crisis revealed differences of substance and style.

While Obama offered a response calling on both sides to negotiate, John McCain took a remarkably more aggressive stance, siding clearly with Georgia’s pro-Western leaders and placing the blame for the conflict entirely on Russia.

A McCain adviser suggested that Obama’s statement constituted appeasement, while Obama’s camp suggested that McCain was being needlessly belligerent and dangerously quick to judge a complicated situation.

“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict,” Obama said in a written statement. “Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint and to avoid an escalation to full-scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected.”

Obama added briefly that the international community should get involved. More than an hour later, as more details of Russia’s incursion into Georgia emerged, he cited Russia more directly: “What is clear is that Russia has invaded Georgia’s sovereign — has encroached on Georgia’s sovereignty,” he told reporters in Sacramento.

McCain’s statement:

"[T]he news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory.

“The government of Georgia has called for a ceasefire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course that it has chosen.”

"Sen. McCain is clearly willing to note who he thinks is the aggressor here,” John McCain’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann said, dismissing the notion that Georgia’s move into its renegade province had precipitated the crisis. "I don't think you can excuse, defend, explain or make allowance for Russian behavior because of what is going on in Georgia.”

He also criticized Obama for calling on both sides to show “restraint,” and suggested the Democrat was putting too much blame on the conflict’s clear victim.

“That's kind of like saying after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, that Kuwait and Iraq need to show restraint, or like saying in 1968 [when the Soviet Union invaded Czechoslovakia] ... that the Czechoslovaks should show restraint,” he said.

Critics of McCain’s stance said he’d imposed ideology on a complicated situation in which both sides bear some blame.

Mark Brzezinski, a former Clinton White House official and an informal adviser to Obama, said, “It’s both sides’ fault — both have been somewhat provocative with each other.”

A fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, Ariel Cohen, praised McCain’s statement as “robust and tough.”

The candidates’ stances also reflected their broader goals in the region. Obama, Rhodes noted, has argued that the American interest in controlling nuclear material in the former Soviet Union and in other national security concerns means that the country should maintain a constructive relationship with Russia, even when Russia mistreats its population and threatens its neighbors.

McCain, meanwhile, has offered more sticks than carrots, and suggested that Russia will respond primarily to American toughness and resolve. He’s also called for Russia to be expelled from the Group of Eight industrial nations, a move unlikely to be supported by its other members, but one that makes his disapproval of Russia’s conduct very clear. Friday, as the crisis unfolded, he reiterated that stance.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080809/pl_politico/12409;_ylt=Ar8r4AmPTOzy.hyZSoNA7ZsDW7oF

-- August 9, 2008 5:42 PM


Sara wrote:

Georgia fears 'annihilation' after Russian assault
Aug 9, 2008

TBILISI (AFP) - Russian warplanes staged bombing raids across Georgia on Saturday as the conflict over South Ossetia escalated and diplomatic efforts mounted to halt what Tbilisi called a policy of "annihilation."

"What they are doing is nothing to do with conflict, it is about annihilation of a democracy on their borders," Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said in an interview with the BBC.

He said Moscow's aim in entering the conflict over the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia was to show that "nobody ever will defy Russian rule in this part of the world."

France, which holds the current EU presidency, announced on Saturday that it would host a meeting of European foreign ministers early next week and possibly an EU summit later.

The French presidency said Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner would go to the region to present proposals for ending the crisis which include "an immediate cessation of hostilities; the full respect of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia; (and) the re-establishment of the situation that existed before."

The UN Security Council was also expected to meet again Saturday to agree on a call for an immediate ceasefire after talks failed a day earlier.

Saakashvili had earlier declared a 15-day state of war, a form of martial law, and the United States led international calls for Russia to halt its military assault.

But Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev said his country would "force the Georgian side into peace" and accused Georgia of causing thousands of "victims".

Russia backs the separatist government in South Ossetia and sent in tanks and troops on Friday in response to pro-Western Georgia's military campaign to take back the province which broke away in the early 1990s.

Georgia said a Russian air raid had "completely devastated" the Black Sea port of Poti in attacks that the country's UN ambassador likened to "a full-scale military invasion".

This was followed up with air raids on Gori, the main Georgian city closest to South Ossetia and another near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline -- the world's second longest.

Saakashvili also accused Russia of deliberately targeting Georgian civilians.

"This is a 100 percent unprovoked brutal Russian invasion and aggression into a sovereign country," he told the BBC.

But Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who arrived Saturday in the city of Vladikavkaz, close to Russia's border with Georgia, appeared combative.

"From a legal point of view our actions are absolutely well-founded and legitimate and moreover necessary," Putin said, blasting Georgia's "criminal" leadership.

South Ossetia was unlikely to reintegrate with the rest of Georgia after Tbilisi's current military action, Putin added, quoted by news agencies.

The current conflict with Russia has claimed 150 lives, including about 40 civilians, Georgian Foreign Minister Eka Tkeshelashvili said, while Russia's ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, claimed 1,500 civilians were killed in the burning of South Ossetia villages in the course of one day.

He accused Georgia of committing "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" because many residents in the breakaway Georgian region are of Russian origin.

The Georgian foreign minister late Saturday said Russia's military fleet was "heading towards the Georgian coast," saying the information came from a "confirmed Russian source."

In South Ossetia, Georgian and rebel forces made rival claims to control the main city of Tskhinvali but Russia said it had "liberated" South Ossetia's main city after airlifting paratroopers.

In the streets of Tskhinvali, home to an estimated 20,000 people before the conflict, tanks burned and women and children ran for cover.

An AFP reporter in South Ossetia saw women, children and elderly riding buses toward the Russian border as a flood of refugees began to escape the violence.

US President George W. Bush cut into his engagements during a visit to Beijing to call for an end to Russian bombing.

"We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops," Bush told reporters. "We call for an end to the Russian bombings."

South Ossetia broke from Georgia in the early 1990s. It has been a constant source of friction between Georgia and Russia, which opposes Tbilisi's aspirations of joining NATO and has supported the separatists without recognising their independence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/georgiasossetiarussiaunrest;_ylt=Arh1ZF_YPXgAVEMP78r8bfUDW7oF

-- August 9, 2008 8:22 PM


Sara wrote:

In the article above, called, "Georgia fears 'annihilation' after Russian assault" it says:

The Georgian foreign minister late Saturday said Russia's military fleet was "heading towards the Georgian coast," saying the information came from a "confirmed Russian source."

==end quote===

Look at the geography here:

First there is Iraq..
ABOVE Iraq is Turkey (remember the bombings and conflict between Iraq and the PKK?).
JUST above Turkey.. is Georgia.
And above Georgia.. is Russia.

Sooo.. when Iran was threatened recently by the US moving carriers into the Gulf.. they appealed to their ally RUSSIA for help. Russia made up an excuse to "invade" a sovereign nation nearby, (saying it is bringing "peace" to them) in order to bring in heavy weaponry and very strong firepower nearby to the Gulf to protect Iran from the US. This is all to do with Iraq, Iran and oil. Russia is defending Iran and helping Iran accomplish its goal to eliminate Israel. Iran is definitely thinking it will end up with the bomb, eliminating Israel and then targeting the US - all with Russian cover and help. Georgia is just a distraction to the real war whose plan is to let Iran get nuclear weapons to wipe rival countries off the map of the world. Russia can then say they didn't do it.. Iran did (but with their help) - a proxy. With this move, the world is taking a very large step toward the GWOT becoming a virtual (and nuclear-escalating) World War Three. Russia siding with Iran to help them in their aims to destroy Israel and the US should not be a suprise. Ultimately, the Cold War wasn't over.. only delayed to another day. Like now.

What are the ranges and capabilities of the Russian fleet? Can they sink or destroy US battlegroups from their navy positions near Georgia if the US is placed in a position of having to attack Iran? If Iran can hit Israel with its missiles, Russia can hit the US fleet in the Gulf with from their navy positions.. and they would be nuclear weapons.

Sara.

-- August 9, 2008 9:45 PM


NEIL wrote:

Hello All:

I continue to read all of your comments and posts and have the utmost respects for those of you who put your opinion on the line and stand behind it.

My opinion on Russia and Georgia is Russia is commited to bringing Georgia back into the fold and will do whatever is necessary to accomplish this. The U.S. needs to use diplomacy in dealing with this situation as Russia has had some setbacks but is still a super-power and still has nukes aimed at the U.S. so when we deal with Russia, it will not be a police action but a fight for survival.

On the presidential race, since 90% of the blacks are voting for Obama, it is reasonable to assume that they are voting for him for racial reasons thereby making them racists. Therefore since it is established that almost all blacks are racists, then why is it so wrong for a few whites to be racists.

I think that one of the first official acts when Obama is elected is to enact some form of reparation for blacks. Since almost all blacks are in the South, the reparation money will make the South the richest region in the country.

Our founding fathers noted that this Republic could be compromised if the voters ever realized that they could vote themselves a benefit. I think that we have reached that time in history and unless a real statesman like Mitt Romney takes the reins, I believe this country is in trouble.

Neil

-- August 9, 2008 10:50 PM


NEIL wrote:

Hello All:

I continue to read all of your comments and posts and have the utmost respects for those of you who put your opinion on the line and stand behind it.

My opinion on Russia and Georgia is Russia is commited to bringing Georgia back into the fold and will do whatever is necessary to accomplish this. The U.S. needs to use diplomacy in dealing with this situation as Russia has had some setbacks but is still a super-power and still has nukes aimed at the U.S. so when we deal with Russia, it will not be a police action but a fight for survival.

On the presidential race, since 90% of the blacks are voting for Obama, it is reasonable to assume that they are voting for him for racial reasons thereby making them racists. Therefore since it is established that almost all blacks are racists, then why is it so wrong for a few whites to be racists.

I think that one of the first official acts when Obama is elected is to enact some form of reparation for blacks. Since almost all blacks are in the South, the reparation money will make the South the richest region in the country.

Our founding fathers noted that this Republic could be compromised if the voters ever realized that they could vote themselves a benefit. I think that we have reached that time in history and unless a real statesman like Mitt Romney takes the reins, I believe this country is in trouble.

Neil

-- August 9, 2008 10:53 PM


NEIL wrote:

The screen said that my first post did not go through but it looks like it did. Neil

-- August 9, 2008 10:56 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara, Carole, and All,

See HAARETZ.COM an article entitled, "Contrary to Popular Belief, War with Iran is Not Imminent" by: Amir Oren. I was unable to copy it to scratch pad as it said the article was too long. I think you will find it interesting reading.

Neil,

The founding fathers would turn over in their graves to hear you say something like that!. I am currently reading on the founding fathers and they were devotely christian (Puritan) and believed in the equality of all men being equal under our creatator. That would be what is wrong with that. They would not have been racists and would not have voted out of the reasons you are citing.... but out of civic duty.

As I too am a christian, I would agree with our founding fathers. However, I understand your reasoning... if you truly believe blacks are voting for Obama just because he is black. I would hope american voters are more discerning than that!

Laura Parker

-- August 9, 2008 11:14 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,

I believe you are right on the money concerning the Russian invasion of Georgia. It answers the question of "why now"?

I seem to remember hearing and commenting about an article or editorial I read a while back, questioning why we were not more disturbed by the real threat Russia presented to the world, especially the US. Russia has missiles aimed at the US from every angle possible. Including our sovereign territories.
Could this be the MAGOG fulfilling prophesy?

Carole

-- August 9, 2008 11:22 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

On the MAGOG fulfilling prophesy, I do not think so. There are too many other items that need to be fulfulled first. Iraq has to become a nation of great wealth. Their commerce road to Egypt has to be built from Iraq to Egypt. Oil needs to be discovered in Israel. And these items have not happened as of yet.

Laura Parker

-- August 10, 2008 8:59 AM


Sara wrote:

Neil;

You are right.. they have taken polls which attest to the fact that 90% of blacks support Obama. This proves it is not based on party affiliation but only on his color. This blatant RACISM is not addressed in the media. Only those opposing Obama (for any reason, including his lack of experience) are labelled with the term racist. Obama has also tried to address the fact he will vote the treasury to the blacks if he gets in power.. but failed in this endeavor. Since he cannot choose DIRECTLY to vote the treasury to the black community, he will vote for "everyone" to have a handout and so disproportionately help blacks. As he says here:

"If we have a program, for example, of universal health care, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because they're disproportionately uninsured," Obama said. "If we've got an agenda that says every child in America should get — should be able to go to college, regardless of income, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because it's oftentimes our children who can't afford to go to college."

This is truly what is behind his "universal healthcare". Note the quote: "it's oftentimes our children who can't afford to go to college." Here, he speaks of OUR children.. in a special way which includes himself as part of the black group over the "other" (non-black) people. So it is Obama who sets up this "us versus them" dichotomy which is obvious in his speaking and agenda, not non-blacks.

As you can see, his planned solution is to vote the treasury to blacks under the guise of helping ALL.. knowing that the vastly disproportionate amount of benefit will end up going to the black community... who will vote for him at the rate of 90% because they know this is what he will do for them. His idea is that when he wants to benefit blacks he looks at how to do so but then says he is helping "in general" with say, health care.. but targets the aid to end up helping blacks. He could say, "we need more community based healthcare centers in urban centers".. meaning he wants more health facilities for blacks in inner city slums. His words sound like he is doing good for "the poor" and not just the black community.. when the real intent is to vote the treasury to his "fellow" blacks ("our" children). And he definitely knows how to smooth over what he is doing so that others don't get up in arms with his black agenda. He does this by denying the WORDS that mean special compensation to blacks.. while still supporting the AGENDA to disproportionately help the black community.. hence the title of the article, below.

===

Obama opposes reparations for slavery
By CHRISTOPHER WILLS, AP

Sat Aug 2, 2008

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opposes offering reparations to the descendants of slaves, putting him at odds with some black groups and leaders.

The man with a serious chance to become the nation's first black president argues that government should instead combat the legacy of slavery by improving schools, health care and the economy for all.

"I have said in the past — and I'll repeat again — that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed," the Illinois Democrat said recently.

Some two dozen members of Congress are co-sponsors of legislation to create a commission that would study reparations — that is, payments and programs to make up for the damage done by slavery.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People supports the legislation, too. Cities around the country, including Obama's home of Chicago, have endorsed the idea, and so has a major union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Obama has worked to be seen as someone who will bring people together, not divide them into various interest groups with checklists of demands. Supporting reparations could undermine that image and make him appear to be pandering to black voters.

"Let's not be naive. Sen. Obama is running for president of the United States, and so he is in a constant battle to save his political life," said Kibibi Tyehimba, co-chair of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America. "In light of the demographics of this country, I don't think it's realistic to expect him to do anything other than what he's done."

But this is not a position Obama adopted just for the presidential campaign. He voiced the same concerns about reparations during his successful run for the Senate in 2004.

There's enough flexibility in the term "reparations" that Obama can oppose them and still have plenty of common ground with supporters.

The NAACP says reparations could take the form of government programs to help struggling people of all races. Efforts to improve schools in the inner city could also aid students in the mountains of West Virginia, said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP's Washington bureau.

"The solution could be broad and sweeping," Shelton said.

The National Urban League — a group Obama addressed Saturday without mentioning the issue in his speech — avoids the word "reparations" as too vague and highly charged. But the group advocates government action to close the gaps between white America and black America.

Urban League President Marc Morial said he expects his members to press Obama on how he intends to close those gaps and what action he would take in the first 100 days of his presidency.

"What steps should we take as a nation to alleviate the effects of racial exclusion and racial discrimination?" Morial asked.

The House voted this week to apologize for slavery. The resolution, which was approved on a voice vote, does not mention reparations, but past opponents have argued that an apology would increase pressure for concrete action.

Obama says an apology would be appropriate but not particularly helpful in improving the lives of black Americans. Reparations could also be a distraction, he said.

In a 2004 questionnaire, Obama told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work."

"If we have a program, for example, of universal health care, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because they're disproportionately uninsured," Obama said. "If we've got an agenda that says every child in America should get — should be able to go to college, regardless of income, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because it's oftentimes our children who can't afford to go to college."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_el_pr/obama_slavery_reparations

-- August 10, 2008 1:36 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura, Neil is not being racist by saying black Americans are voting for Obama.
Here are the statistics.
One concrete example:

Exit Polls: Black Voters Catapult Obama To Big Win in North Carolina
by FOXNews.com
Tuesday, May 6, 2008

The two Democratic candidates may have kept a grip on their key constituencies in Tuesday’s primary contests, but record support from one of Barack Obama’s key stongholds — African-American voters — catapulted him to a big win in North Carolina, and a close second in Indiana.

According to FOX News exit polling, Obama won 91 percent of the black vote in North Carolina, which made up 33 percent of the electorate. He did equally well with black women and men, no less than 90 percent each.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton kept a firm grip among whites in both states, but the margins were not enough to overcome Obama’s surge.

While Obama began his campaign last year with the intent of not making race an issue, it has certainly become one.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/06/exit-polling-shows-wright-controversy-economy-matter-to-indiana-north-carolina-voters/

And nationally? This July 15th Quinnipiac University National Poll Found, QUOTE:

With commanding leads among women and young voters and near unanimous support from black voters, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama has a 50 - 41 percent lead over Arizona Sen. John McCain, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll of likely voters released today.

Black voters back Sen. Obama 94 - 1 percent.

"Sen. Barack Obama's national lead is solid - but it's not monolithic," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

"His support in the black community is about as close to unanimous as you can get. Politicians say that the only uncertainty will be turnout. Sen. John McCain leads among white voters.

"As is usually the case, the outcome probably will be decided in the middle, among the independent voters, who are evenly split at this point."

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1192

Therefore, with a near unanimous outcome in the black community.. we can only conclude that they are not voting according to party affiliation. Why do you think they are voting for him, then (and if you say because he is black, you are labelled a racist, just as you just did to Neil)?

Sara.

-- August 10, 2008 2:06 PM


Sara wrote:

You are welcome, Carole, on the bit about "why now?"

And Laura.. I was not meaning to be confrontational on that last post. I was just attempting to make you think about what Neil was saying and why (statistics not racism). The media always construes it as racism, but it is not - it is just judging from fact. How else do you account for virtually unanimous support for Obama among the black community?

I also appreciate your note on prophecy not yet being fulfilled, as it appears to me also that your assessment is accurate concerning other prophecies having to be fulfilled first before that one can be. Obviously, Russia remains a danger to be reckoned with, quite apart from any endtime scenerio.

Sara.

-- August 10, 2008 2:25 PM


Sara wrote:

Who will PAY for all this "entitlement" money going to the black community.. ??
(Look at the list of entitlements/programs in comment 3 from Obama's book and website.)
QUOTE: Obama's tax plan would add $3.4 trillion to the national debt

==

WaPo: 'Obama Tax Plan Would Balloon Deficit'
By Tim Graham
August 10, 2008

Sunday's Washington Post carried a story by reporter Lori Montgomery with a surprising headline: "Obama Tax Plan Would Balloon Deficit, Analysis Finds." The Post is highlighting research from the "nonpartisan" Tax Policy Center, a project of two liberal think tanks, the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute.
QUOTE:

Measured against current law and against the promises of his fellow Democrats, Obama would rack up huge deficits. According to a recent analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, Obama's tax plan would add $3.4 trillion to the national debt, including interest, by 2018.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

Comments:

1) Too much credit to the Post by nkviking75

Mr. Graham, I think you're giving the Post too much credit. It seems to me that the thesis of the article is that the Bush tax cuts ran up the deficit, and that Obama should allow them to expire in 2010, the second year of his 10 years in office ;-). They claim that the deficit will disappear as soon as the cuts go away. But they also claim that there will be money available for Obama's huge new programs.

The reality is, under an Obama Administration, taxpayers will suffer the double whammy of increased taxes plus even more unsustainable entitlement spending. Electing Obama will be an economic train wreck.

Check out the Heritage Foundation article "Ten Myths About The Bush Tax Cuts", then bookmark it. It'll be a very useful reference.

http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

2) Barack Hike-Tax Obama by Tim Graham

Thanks for the link. The Post clearly believes that the "responsible" tax policy is to cancel every tax cut and close every loophole. But don't miss the part of the article where Lori reports that McCain said he will balance the budget through "massive spending cuts." By contrast, massive spending increases are the automatic statist assumption of the liberal media in Washington.

3) The Obama Nation by Agnostic

The best way to deal with Senator Obama is to allow his ideas to reach the public without his "hope and change" verbage to camouflage the meaning of his words. Some of the plans listed below may be good if they were done without increasing the size of the government or the amount of governmental control but since that seems the totality of Obama's goals I see very little good.

(Please forgive excessive C&P)

From his own book via IBD (good editorial to read but you will be a racist if you believe any of it):

Doling out faith-based grants "targeting ex-offenders."

Subsidizing supermarket chains that relocate to the inner city to deliver "fresh produce" to blacks, helping wean them off unhealthy fast food.

Imposing "goals and timetables for minority hiring" on large corporations whose work forces are deemed too white.

Continuing to fund the Community Development Block Grant program, Head Start and HUD public housing subsidies.

Funding Small Business Administration loans for minority businesses who train ex-felons, including gangbangers, for the "green jobs" of the future, such as installing extra insulation in homes.

Doubling the funding for federal after-school programs such as midnight basketball.

Subsidizing job training, day care, transportation for inner-city poor, as well as doubling the funding of the federal Jobs Access and Reverse Commute program.

Expanding the eligibility of the earned income tax credit to include more poor, and indexing it to inflation.

Adopting entire inner-city neighborhoods as wards of the federal government.

• Spending billions on new inner-city employment programs, including prison-to-work programs.

From his own web-site: (Notice the use of action words and realize what they really mean and it becomes easy to see what Obama's plan means for our nation. For example: Protect or Reform means to increase or establish regulation)

Expand the Family and Medical Leave Act

Encourage States to Adopt Paid Leave

Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities

Expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit

Protect Against Caregiver Discrimination

Expand Flexible Work Arrangements

Create a Credit Card Rating System to Improve Disclosure

Establish a Credit Card Bill of Rights to Protect Consumers

Cap Outlandish Interest Rates on Payday Loans and Improve Disclosure

Encourage Responsible Lending Institutions to Make Small Consumer Loans

Reform Bankruptcy Laws to Protect Families Facing a Medical Crisis

Provide Additional Tax Rebates to American Workers

Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund

Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services

Extend and Expand Unemployment InsuranceProvide a Tax Cut for Working Families

Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less than $50,000

Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans

Fight for Fair Trade (use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world)

Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement

Improve Transition AssistanceInvest in our Next Generation Innovators and Job Creators: ( create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to identify and invest in the most compelling advanced manufacturing strategies)

Double Funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership

Invest In A Clean Energy Economy And Create 5 Million New Green Jobs: ( invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance…)

Create New Job Training Programs for Clean Technologies

Boost the Renewable Energy Sector and Create New Jobs

Create a National Infrastructure Reinvestment BankInvest in the Sciences: ( doubling federal funding for basic research)

Make the Research and Development Tax Credit Permanent

Deploy Next-Generation Broadband

Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies ($500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit to almost every worker in America)

Create a National Network of Public-Private Business Incubators (Obama will invest $250 million per year to increase the number and size of incubators in disadvantaged communities throughout the country)

Ensure Freedom to Unionize

Fight Attacks on Workers' Right to Organize

Protect Striking Workers

Raise the Minimum Wage

Create a New FHA Housing Security Program

Create a Universal Mortgage Credit

Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry

Mandate Accurate Loan DisclosureCreate Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid ForeclosuresClose Bankruptcy Loophole for Mortgage Companies

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/08/10/wapo-obama-tax-plan-would-balloon-deficit

-- August 10, 2008 3:04 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

If you read my post carefully, I did not call Neil a racist. I only said, the founding fathers would condemn voting on the basis of racism alone. The founding fathers would have voted on the basis of Civil obligation to do what is discernably the right thing to do for the total country. I am aware of the 90 percent voting record of blacks for Obama in Carolina. It would appear that blacks are voting for Obama because he is black. However, I can no more look into a black person and read their reasons for why they voted as they did, than anyone else for that matter.

I can only do what my own conscious tells me what is right according to scripture. What I am saying is, what is wrong... is to vote for someone based on race alone and not on the issues.

Neil,

I am hoping that you did not think I was calling you a racist. I was not calling you a racist. I was addressing the issue of voting on race alone as wrong.

I understood your reasoning and I emphasize with your feelings and thoughts on what appears to happening. And again, I have to say what appears to be happening...because I have not learned the skill of mind reading yet, into other people's motives. If as you say blacks are voting for this reason (and it does appear to be the case), than they need to answer for this evil to the one divine government above.

I think there are enough reasons to vote our conscious than to vote purely on race. I know, I have enough reasons. What about you?.

Laura Parker

-- August 10, 2008 4:36 PM


Rob N. wrote:



Iraq starts oil drilling in Nassiriya field

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Sunday , 10 /08 /2008 Time 7:26:43

BAGHDAD, Aug. 8 (VOI) – Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahrestani on Friday launched the exploratory drilling works in al-Gharaf field in Nassiriya after a 20-year pause, the official spokesman for the oil ministry said.

“The minister launched today the oil drilling works at al-Gharaf field in Nassiriya in southern Iraq after a two-decade pause,” Assem Jihad told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI) over the phone.
Last Wednesday, Jihad had said the Iraqi Ministry of Oil will continue its oil exploration in the coming few days, ending a two-decade pause.
“A celebration will be held in the coming few days and attended by the minister of oil, Hussein al-Shahrestani, on the occasion of the launch of the quake survey in al-Gharaf field in Thi Qar's capital city of Nassiriya," Assem Jihad added.
The survey will be conducted by one of three ministerial teams that have been recently set up to undertake exploration work, Jihad said, noting that the teams are comprised of engineers, geologists, geophysicists and technicians.
The spokesperson explained that Iraq's oil reserves is more than double the officially confirmed figure, which is 115 billion barrels, adding that the lack of exploration work throughout the past 20 years has played a role in the matter..
Thi-Qar, 380 km south of Baghdad, has an area of 12,900 square kilometers (4,980.7 sq mi). In 2003 the estimated population of the governorate was 1,454,200 people. Thi-Qar's capital is the city of al-Nassiriya. It also includes the ancient Sumerian ruins of Ur, Eridu, Lagash and Ngirsu. Before 1976 the province was known as al-Muntafiq.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.


-- August 10, 2008 6:04 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq and Iran sign free trade zone agreement

The Iraqi and Iranian customs officials signed an MOU for bilateral cooperation aimed at removing the outstanding problems between the neighbours and coordinating the creation of a joint free trade zone.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 10, 2008 6:09 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Turkish companies start implementing public works projects in Iraq-advisor

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Baghdad, 10 August 2008 (Voices of Iraq)

An Iraqi official on Sunday said his country and Turkey agreed to setting outlines for Turkish companies to implement projects in Iraq.

As well as oil and gas, the major areas of interest are ports and shipping, construction, infrastructure -- including the airport and railways -- and in industries that range from fertiliser production to iron and steel and banking.

"Iraq and Turkey agreed on a timetable for Turkish companies to start implementing work in Iraq," Jassim Mohamed Mulla, an advisor for the minister of public works, told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).

The Iraqi official noted "Minister of Public Works Riyadh Ghareeb received Turkish Trade Attache Mustafaoglo and discussed means of boosting ties in public works field with Turkey."

"Turkish companies are ready to work in Iraq especially in Najaf and Karbala" Iraqi official cited Mustafaoglo as saying.

The Turkish offical expressed readiness of Turkish investors to "enter the Iraqi markets bridges and highways fields."

Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki has on several occasions expressed his country's wish to open Iraq to international companies to contribute in reconstructing the violence-ravaged country after years of bloody conflicts and sanctions.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 10, 2008 6:20 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Isn't it true that 90% of American blacks have always voted for the Democratic Party nominee?

Even when the candidates were all white?

Doesn't that have more to do with Democrats supporting the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s?

And the Voting Rights Act?

Weren't the Republicans less enthusiastic than the Democrats, on the Civil Rights Movement?

Haven't Democrats been more consistently in favour of civil rights for blacks, than were the Republicans?

Didn't Democrats bring in affirmative action, which is prejudiced in favour of blacks?

Didn't Republican John McCain vote against making Martin Luther King's birthday an American national holiday?

Didn't a Democratic President, Harry Truman, integrate the American Army, giving talented blacks a chance to compete successfully with whites, before the rest of America was integrated?

Maybe all that is why almost all blacks vote Democrat, rather than skin colour?

Just asking.

-- August 10, 2008 7:43 PM



cornishboy wrote:

-- August 10, 2008 8:51 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Originally Posted by investindinar
It may be the most significant step towards internationalizing the Iraqi currency. I've always thought that any sort of significant 'one-off' revaluation of the currency would have to be preceded by internationalizing the currency. Then, by offering to sell their petroleum for a combination of USD and IQD, the GoI could reduce the M0 outside Iraq dramatically. This action would set the stage for a significant revaluation afterwards.

For example, if the total outstanding amount of IQD outside Iraq were somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.5 trillion dinars (3.5 x 10E12), then assuming that the price of petroleum could be estimated at $115 per barrel, and the IQD:USD exchange rate to be at 1189:1, it would only take a little over 10 days to get the external M0 dramatically to an amount that could be managed effectively.

Calculation: 3.5 trillion dinars / 1189 / $115 per barrel = 25.597 million barrels.

If Iraq sells and exports 2.5 million barrels per day, it would only take 10.24 days to bring the external M0 down to near 0 IQD, if they chose to sell petroleum for IQD 100%. They could then set whatever exchange rate they wanted to in cooperation with the IMF. My guess is that the external M0 would be backed initially by 100% of hard currency reserves, then gradually reduced as their GDP rose.

One of the biggest impediments to setting a fair exchange rate is going to be reducing the external M0 down to a managable level. Concurrent with that step, they have to determine just how much IQD is outside of Iraq. Internationalizing the currency would be the logical first step.

Just my 2 dinars worth of observation and speculation.

Sincerely,

investindinar

-- August 10, 2008 9:09 PM


NEIL wrote:

Sara: Thanks for understanding what I was trying to say.

Laura: I understand your response and if you were attempting to apologize, then I accept it; however, I must point out that your response is the exact reason that no dialog or constructive conversation can take place on the race issue. The first unlaudatory remark by a white brands them a racist and the conversation is over.

I really don't believe that our founding fathers would be too upset over my comments inasmuch as slavery was pretty much legal in this country when the constitution was written and George Washington had 900 slaves on his plantation.

Slaves and women did not enjoy very many rights in those days.

I do not understand racism and hating being synonymous terms. Why can't you be proud of your race with hating other races. We have reached the point where it is sinful and almost illegal to be proud of your race. Example is in my town many years ago there was an area of town where many newly immigrated Italions lived which was called "Little Italy" and many of the people spoke broken English but they were a proud people and great merchants but they wanted the
Italian nationality to remain pure so it was almost impossible to get a date with those beautiful Italian girls as they were reserved for the Italian boys. These people did not hate anyone but were proud of their heritage and did not want it tarnished. All those fine people have been assembled into the general population now and there is no such thing as "Little Italy".

Ask Hillary Clinton if there is any racism in the support that Obama has in the black community. She once had about 90% of the black vote.

-- August 10, 2008 11:24 PM


Carole wrote:

Tim,

I get your point, but I am not sure your stats are official.
First of all in comparison, proportionally, blacks do not take active role in the voting process. We are about to see a dramatic change in that. The motivation?????
Secondly, the segment of our society that are the greatest receivers of government entitlement programs do vote Democrat.
You can draw the obvious conclusions from that.
Democrats, in order to perform on their promises, increase the size of government....subsidized by the part of our society that receives less that 6% of those entitlements..,.,.,REPUBLICANS!

THE HAND THAT FEEDS GETS BIT! This has become the American way....until we wake up and put a stop to it all,.... which will not likely happen in my life time. If anything it is getting worse.

YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR MY DISSERTATION ON MARTIN LUTHER KING...I'M SURE OF IT!

Carole

-- August 10, 2008 11:25 PM


Carole wrote:

Neil,
Well presented.
I had to laugh....I was the first o our family to marry a non- Italian! You can imagine what I had to put up with. Looking back, I see that my family's concerns were justified. Many issues would have never been issues had I married had Italian. Three of my 5 daughters are married to Italians...they have very loud but happy households! :)
In the city where I grew up, everything was pretty divided: Polish town, Little Italy, Jew Town,Irish Town and German Town, Puerto Rican Town, etc....
There were no gangs or hostilities...we all enjoyed the rich cultures, but respected each others unique differences. AND EVERY BODY WORKED AND PAID THEIR OWN WAY.....PROVIDING EACH GROUP WITH WONDERFUL DIGNITY. AND MOST EVERYONE WAS DEMOCRAT.

What happened to change that, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
Do you have any thoughts on that?

Carole

-- August 10, 2008 11:40 PM


Carole wrote:

Laura,

FYI: In 2003 the Givot Olam Oil (LTD) drilled the Meged Field (20km N/E of Tel Aviv). 650 million barrels from this one site alone.

Reported by Kol Shofar TV

Carole

-- August 10, 2008 11:57 PM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts, I think you need to read "Wrong on Race" by Bruce Bartlett, review below.
The truth goes a long way..

Sara.

===

Digging Up Democratic Skeletons
by La Shawn Barber
Thursday, February 07, 2008

[V]irtually every significant racist in American political history was a Democrat. – Bruce Bartlett

Democrats, seen as the civil rights party, supported slavery, opposed civil rights legislation, instituted the "Black Codes," and created the Jim Crow system. The Republican Party, in contrast, was founded in opposition to slavery, and supported post-Civil War and Civil Rights Movement-era legislation.

"All of the racism that we associate with [the southern] region of the country originated with and was enforced by elected Democrats," writes Bruce Bartlett, a former domestic policy advisor to President Ronald Reagan and a Treasury official under President George H.W. Bush. In Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party's Buried Past, Bartlett goes deep into the history of the Democratic Party and attempts to set the record straight.

Bartlett discusses the motivations of Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson to maintain slavery and how Andrew Johnson ("a Democrat his whole life") tried to block post-Civil War legislation designed to protect newly freed slaves. He includes obscure figures like Senator Benjamin Tillman from South Carolina, whose "consistent theme…was that black men had some sort of compulsion to mate with white women," and Senator Theodore Bilbo from Mississippi, whose "permanent resolution of the race problem" in 1938 was to send blacks back to Africa and/or create a 49th state for them "somewhere in the West."

Woodrow Wilson, a liberal who implemented progressive reforms while in office, also instituted racial segregation throughout the federal government. And Bartlett notes that Wilson's attorney general "did far more to repress free speech and political freedom" than Senator Joe McCarthy, a Republican, ever attempted. But when was the last time Hollywood made a movie about A. Mitchell Palmer?

Franklin D. Roosevelt, who had a "reputation for being a progressive on the race issue," wasn't much better on civil rights. He appointed a Klan member to the Supreme Court and ordered the internment of Americans of Japanese descent during WWII. Republican Dwight Eisenhower, "conventionally portrayed as having done nothing for blacks during his eight years," passed civil rights bills in 1957 (the first since Reconstruction) and 1960. Eisenhower also sent federal troops to enforce school desegregation in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Bartlett praises Democrat Harry Truman for signing an executive order establishing a presidential committee on civil rights, an unpopular move in the party, but spares none for President John F. Kennedy, who receives far more credit on civil rights than he deserves. Kennedy did nothing substantive on civil rights, contends Bartlett, and what he did do was largely symbolic as he tried to avoid antagonizing Southern Democrats. He credits President Lyndon B. Johnson for "finally repudiating both his own segregationist past and the Democratic Party's" in the wake of Kennedy's assassination.

And what about the so-called Southern strategy? Bartlett calls it a myth. There was no strategy "to carry racist votes through coded messages about crime and welfare, as is often alleged." During his campaign in 1968, President Richard M. Nixon emphasized his support for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and picked Spiro Agnew as his vice president, a man reputed to be strong on civil rights.

The shift in Southern voting patterns from Democratic to Republican had to have been about race, right? According to Bartlett, economic changes in the South were the primary factor. During the Democrats' political reign, the South had been the poorest region. As the South's wealth increased, southerners became receptive to Republican messages of low taxes and small government.

People tend to forget that Nixon pushed to desegregate schools, denying federal aid to segregated school districts. "Just one month into his presidency," Bartlett writes, "any idea that Nixon was pursuing a Southern strategy had been thoroughly discredited."

Unfortunately, Nixon also implemented government race preferences.

Bartlett's meticulously researched Wrong on Race concludes with suggestions on how Republicans can reach out to black voters. Wrong on Race provides ammunition for Republicans fed up with being called racists.

http://townhall.com/Columnists/LaShawnBarber/2008/02/07/digging_up_democratic_skeletons?page=full&comments=true

-- August 11, 2008 12:55 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

The bible speaks of Israel hitting oil in the deep sea and that Israel will become so rich that her enemies will covet this wealth. At this point in time, I do not think 650 million barrels of oil will qualify for this defination.

Neil,

Yes, I was trying to apologize to you if you thought I was calling you a racist. This was not my intent. I have only started to read of our founding fathers and I had forgotten that many of the early founding fathers owned slaves. How they squared this with those loafty statements that "all men are created equal"... I do not know. I am reading "The Christian Life and Character Of The Civil Institutions Of The United States" by Benjamin F. Morris.
I will see if this item of slaves comes up or not in the text---but it is a very large book 1060 pages.

As to my being ashamed of being white, I do not think this is so. I simply think racism is wrong whether one is white, black, or purple (etc) and voting on race alone is wrong. Race does not look after the common good of our country, it divides our country. It is an issue that needs to be overlooked, to get to real issues worth voting on. Race is simply divisive. As a christian, I do not have to be concerned with the issue of race because I believe in God providence. This does not mean that nothing evil can occur to a christian but that God works together for good to them who believe and trust in him.

Let me put it another way. Slavery was common in the day of Jesus. Do you think he approved of it?. Not once in the bible is it ever recorded that Jesus condemned slavery. I found this rather curious.

Jesus spoke of his father having authority over servants. I guess this could be regarded as slaves but I always dismissed this point as God owns everything that he created and he can do with us as he wills. God never mistreats his servants...even when he has authority over his creation.

Slavery is addressed from the standpoint of a free man and a slave by the apostle Paul. But even Paul does not condemn having a slave. Maybe this is how our founding fathers thought about the issue in founding the Civil Institutions Of The United States. In Christ, all christians are slaves to Jesus (if one has received real christian teaching/faith) as Christ bought us at high price.

Paul dealt with slavery from the issue on the basis of God's providence. The slave being taught to do his best to serve his master (as the slave is a newly converted christian) and now a follower of Christ. I think the book is Philemon, if my memory serves me right.

Paul teaches this slave (Philemon) to serve his master as if he were serving Christ. Philemon's master is already a christian and Paul intreats the Philemon's master to receive Philemon as a fellow bondservant in Christ. There is no condemnation for Philemon's master for owning slaves from Paul.

Slavery is simply looked at as the master having greater authority over the slave because of a slave's economic indebitedness. Much like our jobs. The boss has authority over his employees (although we have no debt to our bosses except we want to be paid for the job);nothing wrong with that! President Washington probably saw it like that.

However, to me, racism (giving a person higher esteem due to their color) and for no other merit is wrong. Especially, when one is looking at voting for the next president of the United States.

Laura Parker

-- August 11, 2008 2:08 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Bank: new working mechanisms for the domestic market caused a decrease in the value ا ل د و ل ا ر

المواطن/إيبا Citizen / Iba
عزا. Expert bank attributed the reason for the devaluation of the dollar against the Iraqi dinar to the new working mechanisms for the domestic market and great instability witnessed in the foreign exchange. . He said Amer al-Qaysi specialist in banking is that a serial decline in the dollar exchange rate was still ongoing, as the local market has been active in recent times and recently launched a working group within the framework of an integrated supply and demand in addition to the sudden gap between the official and parallel markets. . He pointed out that the shortage of U.S. dollars, largely in the banking market was a key factor in the decline in price. Qaisi said Amer specialist in banking is that a serial decline in the dollar exchange rate was still ongoing, as the local market has been active in recent times and recently launched a working group within the framework of an integrated supply and demand In addition to the sudden gap between the official and parallel markets. . He pointed out that the shortage of U.S. dollars, largely in the banking market was a key factor in the decline in price.
. He added that the conditions of the U.S. economy has cast a shadow on the dollar in world markets despite the Declaration of the World Ohtaba Qaisi global transactions that witnessed a rise in the value of the euro against the dollar did not differ situation in the domestic market in the world markets and varied reasons, and still the main engine of the dollar in Iraq is the supply and demand, which resulted in abundant supply in the market. Expected to witness exchange market and currencies in the country more stability in the coming stage and increase in the strength of the dinar against the dollar and the rest of Arab and foreign currencies. He added that the conditions of the U.S. economy has cast a shadow on the dollar in Despite global markets of the Declaration of American Federal Bank from lifting interest rates on the value of the dollar did not rise to other global currencies unlike McCann expected. . It is worth noting that the exchange rate of U.S. dollar witnessed a decline clear about the Iraqi dinar in the last period. Qaysi noted that the increase reflects the success of the dinar march comprehensive economic reform currently experienced by Iraq, including banking reform and increasing oil exports and thus increase foreign currency reserves. And increased The balance of the growing foreign exchange reserves will give greater confidence among traders and dealers in the banking market, the dollar has become available in the market and any citizen can access it easily from both branches of banks and exchange companies.

-- August 11, 2008 2:41 AM



Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Thanks for that. Very interesting. That all may be true, but the bottom line is that Republicans need to build coalitions with black voters, based on common cultural values. Many black people are very moral Christians. The fact that so few blacks vote Republican tells me that Republicans haven't done a good job lately of articulating common values, and reaching out and building friendships. More needs to be done. Political parties should look like the countries they represent. IMHO, one of the things America needs are a lot more conservative black leaders who articulate values at odds with the debauched liberal values articulated by black leaders on the left, that are ruining America. That way, the fight becomes about values, not race.

-- August 11, 2008 3:49 AM


Valerio wrote:

Neil,
You opened a can of worms. The problem today is we don't know what being a racist really is. If a white person notices that Obama is a black man, he is a racist. And we can't call him by his full name either, because there is something supposedly wrong about that also.

Laura,
So what if I vote based on race, Why is that wrong? So what if blacks vote for Obama because he is black? Seems normal to me that people are generally more attracted to their own kinds. No it won't give you the smartest choice maybe, but wrong? Isn't it someones right to vote how they choose, for any reason they choose? Half the white people who are voting for Obama, are doing it only because they think they are proving how much their not racist, and thats no better a reason to vote for someone. Not smart, but not wrong either! (I don't really know how many)

If I need to rent one of my properties in an all white neighborhood, why is it wrong for me to not rent it to someone because their black? Is it not my property? Is it not I who is utimately effected? Why is it not my right to choose my renter? If my governments law says I must not refuse the man because of race, are they going to pay for the destruction of my property if the neighbors are angry?

If I need to hire someone to work at my store to unload trucks, why is it wrong that I don't hire the one applicant because is 70 yrs old? Is it not my money that I pay out? Is it not my store that I own? Who will recompence me if the old mans production is low? If the old man would have been more productive than the young man hired, Is it not I who pays for that mistake as well?
Twisting personal freedoms of choice into moral wrongs does more harm than good. Thats what keeps people in the same place, instead of them progressing.
Next they will say you can't refuse to date or marry because of age or race, or even worse, income level.
There will always be racism as long as there continues to be a recognizable differnce from one race to another, and thats not neccessarily wrong. What is wrong is sin, which is the transgression of Gods law. It is no more, or less wrong to offend your black neighbor, than it is your white neighbor. It is no more, or less wrong to mistreat a woman, than it is to mistreat a man. I think these doctrines of racism, sexism, are more of a distraction to the real issues of right and wrong.

Geaorge Washington had more like 280 slaves at one time. They included men, women, and children. He kept them even though the cost was more than the value of their productivity. He would not split up their families either. He didn't give them their freedom because he cared about what would happen to them, being a group who afterall couldn't produce enough to support themselves.

-- August 11, 2008 6:15 AM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts;

THAT is what Republicans and their "precious morals" have brought to the black community.. their freedom and civil rights. Meanwhile, the black community embraces the party of the KKK as their own with their far left ideologue Obama. While I agree that Republicans have not articulated their position very well, their scorned "precious morals" and "God and gun clinging" is actually what bought the black community their freedom and civil rights. You are right about the need of the black community to stand on shared Christian values. That they would throw over allegiance to Christian values in favor of far left ideology and black power hatred speaks more of the illness within the black church community and how they have lost their way.. that is to say, how far they have strayed from the truth of Jesus Christ.. than it does the question of partisan politics. Jesus brings together His people around a common value system.. in Christ there is no black or white.. which is why the Republican Party, quote, "was founded in opposition to slavery, and supported post-Civil War and Civil Rights Movement-era legislation."

I cannot speak for where the church went wrong in the past concerning the black community.. but it seems likely to me that it was in not continuing to carefully point out that the party of the KKK has always been the Democrats. Likely the Democrats did not enjoy being reminded of their racist roots and they told the Republicans to bury their grating "high sounding morals" and stop rubbing their noses in the manure of their own past actions (which speak far louder than words). And, to keep the peace and be bi-partisan and all that, Republicans stopped reminding them and the black community of the sordid history of the Democrat party.. and so it was lost and a new and false history was built upon... using only the positive history the Democrats have tried to build since "President Lyndon B. Johnson who "finally repudiated both his own segregationist past and the Democratic Party's" in the wake of Kennedy's assassination."

It is ironic that the black community now thinks of Democrats as their "friends" and helpful to them when they have been their staunch enemies in the past and all they stand for - including the ability to vote. It is eerie the silence from the black community concerning Christian values and truth - almost as eerie as the silence of the "moderate" Muslims in the face of the Muslim extremist threat to the nation. It may well take a jarring wakeup call to bring back the whole church - black and white - into touch with its true non-race based values, in Christ Jesus. While that article I quoted lays the blame at the feet of the Republican party for not "reaching out" enough, I think it more probable that the inner workings of the black community has the greater share of blame for allowing their community to stray so far from the truth that they could be taken by such lies.

Sara.

-- August 11, 2008 7:27 AM


Sara wrote:

Valerio wrote, "if I vote based on race, Why is that wrong?"

I would say it is wrong because the top job is based on who is the most qualified, not on who is your own color. Does this mean that a janitor running for office should get in because he is black? Obama's having been to school and even getting good marks and a vaunted editor job on the Harvard Review does not qualify him for the Presidency. It is a grave responsibility to be President of the United States. People live and die based on the decisions given by that office. Academia is not qualifications enough for the role of President. If it were, why weren't the Harvard PROFESSORS who taught Obama all Presidents? Surely the greater teach the lesser?

He also hasn't even finished ONE term in the Senate. He is so young and inexperienced, he is like a puppy... and running to be the Commander-in-Chief? It is ridiculous to qualify a man for the position of President of the United States based on race relations alone. As has been astutely observed by others more qualified to say so than I - If he were white, he would never have gotten this far. No white man with so little qualifications and experience (a mere novice!!) could possibly expect the votes he does. He expects it based on the black vote and white guilt. What a sorry state of affairs!

Personally, I see much which is wrong in voting based exclusively on color.

Sara.

-- August 11, 2008 7:52 AM


Carole wrote:

Valerio,

You made your points quite well. However, the Christian teaching that " while all may be legal, not all may be expedient", applies here.
Voting on other indicators than the issues and experience is what has kept this country free and distinguishable from all other nations.
Voting is much much more than an exercise of freedom. It is a grave responsibility, because of many factors, including, asking men and women to die for our country whole protecting it. I agree wholeheartedly with Sara.

I am going to share an e-mail a Cuban friend of mine sent me.

Found in the Richmond Times Dispatch-July 7, 2008

Dear Editor, Times Dispatch:
Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice.
On June 30, I celebrate MY independence day, and on July 4, I celebrate America's Independence Day.
This year is special because it marks he 40th anniversary of My independence
On June 30,1968, I escaped Communist Cuba. A Few months later I was in the United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.
I have thought alot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think alot about Cuba and what transpired there.
In the late 1950's, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So, when a young leader came along every Cuban was at least receptive.
When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press ell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were, or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor, and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed him. When he said he would bring equality and justice to all, everyone said " Praise the Lord". And when the young leader said " I will be for change, and I WILL BRING CHANGE", everyone yelled, " VIVA FIDEL"

But nobody asked about the change, so that by the time the executioner's guns went silent, the peoples guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education, it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late because they were now working for him. By the time the CHANGE was finally implemented, Cuba had been knocked down to a Third World Status. By the time the change was over, more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts and inner tubes. You can call those who made it to shore anywhere else in the world, the most fortunate Cubans. And now I am back to the beginning of my story.

Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised CHANGE without asking, " What Change? How would you carry it out? What will it cost America?" Would we?

Manuel Alvarez, Jr.

The friend that sent me this e-mail writes:
As a Cuban that came to this country in 1961, with a year old daughter and a husband that spoke no English with only a suitcase, mostly filled with baby clothes and not a cent to our name( we were lucky that we came by plane), I can tell you that this article brought back many memories of what a person is willing to do to find freedom. I have visited quite a Few countries,and I would not dream of trading any of them for America! In all of the years I have lived in this country,I have seen many changes, some good and some bad. I have never been afraid of the future of this country as I am now. I fear our beliefs and our principles are at stake, as well as our freedoms.
I hope that each one of you take very seriously the future of our country and make the right decision.
God Bless America!!!!!

Felipa Cardet


I suspect that foreign born Americans do not have the BLIND SPOT that many of us have, because we have taken freedom for granted, because we know no other way.

We winch and scream as government gets bigger and bigger, chipping away at our freedoms, socially, economically, and morally.........but if Obama has his win.....WE AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!

Carole

-- August 11, 2008 8:58 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:


Iraq to revive oil deal with China

Iraq and China are set to revive a US$1.2 billion oil deal that was canceled after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, the Iraq's oil ministry said Sunday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 11, 2008 9:42 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Fears of fresh civil war in Iraq as tensions over Kirkuk mount
By Ali al-Mansouri

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11 August 2008 (Azzaman)
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Tensions over the oil-rich Province of Kirkuk are mounting and rival factions are reportedly preparing themselves for a long and protracted armed conflict.

But the battle over Kirkuk, once ignited, will be almost impossible to extinguish.

Such a conflict will involve all the country’s disparate factions and ethnic groups, particularly the Kurds who have since the U.S. invasion of 2003 enjoyed relative quiet.

Arabs of the central and southern Iraq have been fighting each other through locally raised militias and clash of loyalties among the fledgling Iraqi troops as well as U.S. invasion troops.

With the coming of the Americans, Arab Shiites and Sunnis resorted to guns to solve their differences. In the ensuing infighting, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis are believed to have been killed or injured.

As the Arabs were fighting each other, the Kurds tried to rearm their military wing, the Peshmerga, or local militias.

The Kurds have access to 17 percent of all foreign cash Iraq gets from its oil exports which amounts to billions of dollars every year. Besides, their militiamen, numbering 180,000, are paid by the central government.

Analysts say the Kurds have used a substantial portion of their share of the oil money to arm their militias.

But their opponents, mainly Sunni Arabs, are not defenseless.

Thanks to U.S. occupation troops, Sunni tribes in central Iraq are now heavily armed as Washington has been using them as proxies to fight al-Qaeda.

But Arab Shiites cannot stay idle if hostilities break out. Most of Iraqi Turkmen who oppose Kurdish control of Kirkuk are Shiites and so are many Arab tribes in the province.

Signs of infighting are in the air with Arab tribal chieftains threatening to resort to arms in order not to let the Kurds control the oil-rich province.

Similar threats have come from Kurdish Peshmerga and political leaders. Kurdish militias are conspicuously deployed in Kirkuk, the provincial center, while Kurdish leaders object to the deployment of Iraqi troops in the city.

The U.S. has raised a fully equipped army of Sunni tribesmen, the militia known locally as Majalis al-Sahwa or Awakening Councils.

The leaders of these councils have warned of grave consequences if they moved ahead with their annexation plans.

Sheikh Hussein al-Jibouri, a high ranking Sunni tribal chieftain whose tribesmen the U.S. arms and finances, said Arabs will not stand by if the Kurds officially add the oil-rich territory to their autonomous region.

“The Arabs’ patience is wearing thin. If they (the Arabs) are forced for a confrontation they know how to do it … We are prepared and have the means and the capabilities,” Jibouri warned.

Another senior Sunni Arab tribal leader issued a similar warning.

Ali al-Sulaiman, a leader of the powerful Awakening Council of the once restive Province of Anbar, advised the Kurds not to ever think that they can have their sway over Kirkuk.

He said any Kurdish attempt to annex Kirkuk would lead to ‘catastrophic consequences.”

But the Kurds have said they will settle for no less than “full annexation” and for them Kirkuk is the ‘Jerusalem” that cannot be compromised.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 11, 2008 9:47 AM


Sara wrote:

Let me get this straight..

The enemy stands ready to attack the homeland of the United States with nuclear weapons and you want to do affirmative action for the post of President of the United States? Just put him in there because he is black and not because he qualifies? This man has no substance - which is why he will not allow a debate/townhall format with McCain. He just cannot stand up to scrutiny. He is a pipsqueak in an empty suit. This is not a moniker for ridicule.. he truly is an empty suit. And your lives.. AMERICAN lives, depend upon the outcome of these elections, whether you live or die. It isn't changing shoe size, for heaven's sake! He is a man with no war experience in a time of war! If we had followed his advice so far Iraq would be lost and we'd be in unconditional appeasement talks with Amadinejad. (Think about it.) This isn't scaremongering.. your lives are honestly in danger.. the US can become a war zone with the wrong man at the helm, in spite of those who say "oh, it will all be ok if Obama gets in". Do you really think appeasement is going to work with the terrorists? (Why don't you point to where it has so far in recent history? How would it have worked in Iraq?) Carole's friend from Cuba is right to be alarmed about the same conditions which brought Fidel Castro to power, including the rhetoric about "change" which preceeded him there, quote, "I will be for change, and I WILL BRING CHANGE", everyone yelled, " VIVA FIDEL"

You just don't hand over the world's largest nuclear arsenel to Bambi. It just.. isn't rational. Not only that.. it is suicidal. Do y'all WANT to die? We aren't playing tiddly winks here. This is your lives, your homes, your families, your loved ones. NO ONE with that little experience and such a far left agenda should ever be allowed to be President. Except God keep America from this incredible travesty, she would indeed have that fate. There is still mercy for America, but let's not squander what resources we have by allowing such an inexperienced and unwise choice. Sure, some old white men would actually be pulling the strings since he would be listening to their advice, but the Bible is replete with instances of those who attained power (such as Rehoboam) not listening when it was key to do so, but listening instead to their "peers". Rehoboam's peers called for more taxes and he listened to them.. and it ruined the country and divided the nation (1 Kings 12). One wrong move here.. and there will be a cost to pay. With war on the doorstep and the enemy clamoring for nuclear weapons, the price paid may be that you'll all be dead, not just divided. And that isn't war mongering.. the ENEMY says this and they want Obama in. Doesn't that say ANYTHING to you.. when Hamas endorses him.. and the Communist Party of the United States? (Think Russia here, people.. watch what they are doing in Georgia.)

Sara.

===

CPUSA (Communist Party) Backs Obama
An editorial from the CPUSA:
Eye on the Prize
7/15/2008

Barack Obama is not a left candidate. This fact has seemingly surprised a number of progressive people who are bemoaning Obama’s “shift to the center.” (Right-wingers are happy to join them, suggesting Obama is a “flip-flopper.”) It’s sad that some who seek progressive change are missing the forest for the trees. But they will not dampen the wide and deep enthusiasm for blocking a third Bush term represented by John McCain, or for bringing Obama by a landslide into the White House with a large Democratic congressional majority.

A broad multiclass, multiracial movement is converging around Obama’s “Hope, change and unity” campaign because they see in it the thrilling opportunity to end 30 years of ultra-right rule and move our nation forward with a broadly progressive agenda.

This diverse movement combines a variety of political currents and aims in a working coalition that is crucial to social progress at this point. At the core are America’s working families, of all hues and ethnicities, whose determination to move forward does not depend on, and will not be diverted by, the daily twists and turns of this watershed presidential campaign. They are taking the long view.

Notably, the labor movement has stepped up its independent mobilization for this election. It is leading an unprecedented campaign to educate and unify its ranks to elect the nation’s first African American president. Last week, AFL-CIO Secretary-Treasurer Richard Trumka told the Steelworkers convention that there is “no evil that’s inflicted more pain and more suffering than racism — and it’s something we in the labor movement have a special responsibility to challenge.”

If Obama’s candidacy represented nothing more than the spark for this profound initiative to unite the working class and defeat the pernicious influence of racism, it would be a transformative candidacy that would advance progressive politics for the long term.

The struggle to defeat the ultra-right and turn our country on a positive path will not end with Obama’s election. But that step will shift the ground for successful struggles going forward.

One thing is clear. None of the people’s struggles — from peace to universal health care to an economy that puts Main Street before Wall Street — will advance if McCain wins in November.

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize.

===end quote==

That’s right. The Communist Party Of The United States wants to elect Barack Hussein Obama as our President.

Why do you think that is?

And why has their endorsement been so studiously ignored by our watchdog media?

(Imagine if a similarly storied ultra-right lunatics had endorsed John McCain? Though, of course, there is no group like that on the right.)

Still, won’t it be pleasant finally to have a President that the same hard-line Communists who supported Joseph Stalin can support?

This is the kind of “unity” Mr. Obama will bring us.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Thursday, August 7th, 2008.

Comments:

1) -’It is leading an unprecedented campaign to educate and unify its ranks to elect the nation’s first African American president.’- This scares me more - exactly what does, is the purpose or agenda of labor unions to be involved in racism or eradication of such?!?

And show me - facts please where in America racism exists? The Secretary of State is a black woman, the richest woman in America is a black woman, and oh btw, the SoS was preceeded by a black man (oh also btw, this was an ‘ultra right wing Republican’ who has that record of non-racism).

Did you notice how they began with Obamanation is not a left candidate - but drivels into a bit later that he is progressive. Whatever Obamanation is a fiberal intent on destroying the American Way, the American Dream and the Constitution to make America ripe for falling for a dictator to ’save’ us from ourselves. . .

Communism has failed (and killed) in every single country it has been attempted - why screw up (what even Obamanation says) is the Greatest Country in the World with a failed government and risk millions of American lives?

I know - because it is more equal - or it is supposed to be.

This is Hope and Change that I don’t believe in nor want to even imagine! - wardmama4

2) IMO, Obama and his supporters will make Fidel Castro look like a happy go lucky guy who just wanted all his slaves to love him.

“Basically, what Obama is talking about is creating a Committee for the Defense of Liberal Ideology and Political correctness funded by a half trillion taxpayer dollars. National Security for this crowd is not about stopping terrorists from killing our children. National Security means to teach our children to understand the terrorists and their motivations so that our children can learn how to live their lives submissively so as not to offend the sensitivities of the very sensitive America haters.”

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/009042.html

The way to stop communists in America from gaining more power now is to stop Obama and his supporters at the voting booth. The Cubans never got that chance to stop Castro. - pagar

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/communist-party-backs-obama-for-prez

-- August 11, 2008 11:58 AM


Sara wrote:

We helped in Iraq - now help us, beg Georgians
As Russia forces its neighbour to retreat from South Ossetia, the people of Gori tell our correspondent of betrayal by the West
August 11, 2008
Tony Halpin

As a Russian jet bombed fields around his village, Djimali Avago, a Georgian farmer, asked me: “Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”

A similar sense of betrayal coursed through the conversations of many Georgians here yesterday as their troops retreated under shellfire and the Russian Army pressed forward to take full control of South Ossetia.

Smoke rose as Russian artillery fire exploded less than half a mile from the bridge marking South Ossetia’s border with Georgia. A group of Georgian soldiers hastily abandoned their lorry after its wheels were shot out and ran across the border.

Georgian troops looked disheartened as they regrouped around tank lines about 2km from the border. Many said that they had been fighting in Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, until the early hours when they were suddenly ordered to withdraw from the breakaway region.

President Saakashvili of Georgia has ordered a complete ceasefire and offered talks to the Russians. Despite this, the sound of gunfire and shelling could be clearly heard along the border zone last night.

Terrified civilians have fled in their thousands, convinced that Russia will not stop at the border but sweep into Georgia. Some fear that the Kremlin is intent on establishing a buffer zone to guard South Ossetia against future incursions.

Georgi, a 56-year-old resident of Tirdznisi, said. “We are afraid that the Russians will come here and kill us. People would not go if we had a strong army but they don’t believe in our army any more.”

Miriyan Gogolashvili, of Tkviav, said: “The Russians will be here tomorrow. They want to show us and the world how powerful they are. Tomorrow it will be Ukraine and nobody in the West is doing anything to stop them. Why were our soldiers in Kosovo and Iraq if we don’t get any help from the West now?” he asked.

The Georgian Government is recalling its 2,000 troops serving in Iraq to confront the threat at home. Many Georgians will be reluctant to send them back after this war ends. Their despair was in sharp contrast to the confidence on the other side. At a base near the border, Russian peacekeepers appeared sure they would soon be joined by comrades from the regular army. “We are operating normally; nobody has disturbed us at all,” said one.

In Tbilisi, the Georgian capital, refugees from the fighting told how Russian helicopters bombed homes in Tshkinvali and neighbouring villages. Some spent days in basements before emerging to discover that their communities had been obliterated. Mzia Sabashvili, who hid for three days, said: “I know that lots of my neighbours are dead. I have no idea who is left.”

The Russians paid little heed to those in their way. A vehicle carrying observers from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe was shot at by a sniper near Tskhinvali. The bullet cracked the toughened glass of the passenger window, where a British officer had been sitting.

In Gori, relatives scoured lists of the wounded put up outside the main hospital. Scores of soldiers milled around on the road outside. One said that they had all been in Tskhinvali but were now preparing to pull out of Gori. “The situation was very bad there but we were ready to stay. Russia is the enemy of the world,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4500362.ece

-- August 11, 2008 1:35 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain.. passing the Commander-in-chief test..

McCain warns Russians of "severe, long-term negative consequences"
Jonathan Martin
Mon Aug 11, 2008

John McCain appeared before cameras this morning to offer a lengthy primer on the crisis in the Caucasus, explain why it matters to America and outline steps that he thinks the U.S. and West should take to halt the violence.

"Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government’s actions will have for Russia’s relationship with the U.S. and Europe," McCain said.

And, describing the Russian assaults that have gone beyond the disputed territory and into sovereign Georgia as "Moscow's path of violent aggression," the GOP nominee suggested that Putin's aim may be to overthrow the pro-U.S. government in Georgia.

"This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression," McCain said.

The harder line toward the Kremlin comes as President Bush and, even more, Vice-President Cheney similarly ratchet up their criticism and as key neoconservative thinkers and McCain allies Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol take to the op-ed pages to urge action.

"Americans wishing to spend August vacationing with their families or watching the Olympics may wonder why their newspapers and television screens are filled with images of war in the small country of Georgia. Concerns about what occurs there might seem distant and unrelated to the many other interests America has around the world. And yet Russian aggression against Georgia is both a matter of urgent moral and strategic importance to the United States of America.

"Georgia is an ancient country, at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and one of the world’s first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion. After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises.

"Following fraudulent parliamentary elections in 2003, a peaceful, democratic revolution took place, led by the U.S.-educated lawyer Mikheil Saakashvili. The Rose Revolution changed things dramatically and, following his election, President Saakashvili embarked on a series of wide-ranging and successful reforms. I’ve met with President Saakashvili many times, including during several trips to Georgia.

"What the people of Georgia have accomplished – in terms of democratic governance, a Western orientation, and domestic reform – is nothing short of remarkable. That makes Russia’s recent actions against the Georgians all the more alarming. In the face of Russian aggression, the very existence of independent Georgia – and the survival of its democratically-elected government – are at stake.

"In recent days Moscow has sent its tanks and troops across the internationally recognized border into the Georgian region of South Ossetia. Statements by Moscow that it was merely aiding the Ossetians are belied by reports of Russian troops in the region of Abkhazia, repeated Russian bombing raids across Georgia, and reports of a de facto Russian naval blockade of the Georgian coast. Whatever tensions and hostilities might have existed between Georgians and Ossetians, they in no way justify Moscow’s path of violent aggression. Russian actions, in clear violation of international law, have no place in 21st century Europe.

"The implications of Russian actions go beyond their threat to the territorial integrity and independence of a democratic Georgia. Russia is using violence against Georgia, in part, to intimidate other neighbors – such as Ukraine – for choosing to associate with the West and adhering to Western political and economic values. As such, the fate of Georgia should be of grave concern to Americans and all people who welcomed the end of a divided of Europe, and the independence of former Soviet republics.

The international response to this crisis will determine how Russia manages its relationships with other neighbors. We have other important strategic interests at stake in Georgia, especially the continued flow of oil through the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which Russia attempted to bomb in recent days; the operation of a critical communication and trade route from Georgia through Azerbaijan and Central Asia; and the integrity and influence of NATO, whose members reaffirmed last April the territorial integrity, independence, and sovereignty of Georgia.

"Yesterday Georgia withdrew its troops from South Ossetia and offered a ceasefire. The Russians responded by bombing the civilian airport in Georgia’s capital, Tblisi, and by stepping up its offensive in Abkhazia. This pattern of attack appears aimed not at restoring any status quo ante in South Ossetia, but rather at toppling the democratically elected government of Georgia. This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression.

"Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government’s actions will have for Russia’s relationship with the U.S. and Europe. It is time we moved forward with a number of steps.

"The United States and our allies should continue efforts to bring a resolution before the UN Security Council condemning Russian aggression, noting the withdrawal of Georgian troops from South Ossetia, and calling for an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgian territory. We should move ahead with the resolution despite Russian veto threats, and submit Russia to the court of world public opinion.

"NATO’s North Atlantic Council should convene in emergency session to demand a ceasefire and begin discussions on both the deployment of an international peacekeeping force to South Ossetia and the implications for NATO’s future relationship with Russia, a Partnership for Peace nation. NATO’s decision to withhold a Membership Action Plan for Georgia might have been viewed as a green light by Russia for its attacks on Georgia, and I urge the NATO allies to revisit the decision.

"The Secretary of State should begin high-level diplomacy, including visiting Europe, to establish a common Euro-Atlantic position aimed at ending the war and supporting the independence of Georgia. With the same aim, the U.S. should coordinate with our partners in Germany, France, and Britain, to seek an emergency meeting of the G-7 foreign ministers to discuss the current crisis. The visit of French President Sarkozy to Moscow this week is a welcome expression of transatlantic activism.

"Working with allied partners, the U.S. should immediately consult with the Ukrainian government and other concerned countries on steps to secure their continued independence. This is particularly important as a number of Russian Black Sea fleet vessels currently in Georgian territorial waters are stationed at Russia’s base in the Ukrainian Crimea.

"The U.S. should work with Azerbaijan and Turkey, and other interested friends, to develop plans to strengthen the security of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline.

"The U.S. should send immediate economic and humanitarian assistance to help mitigate the impact the invasion has had on the people of Georgia.

Our united purpose should be to persuade the Russian government to cease its attacks, withdraw its troops, and enter into negotiations with Georgia. We must remind Russia’s leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require their respect for the values, stability and peace of that world. World history is often made in remote, obscure countries. It is being made in Georgia today. It is the responsibility of the leading nations of the world to ensure that history continues to be a record of humanity’s progress toward respecting the values and security of free people.

"Thank you."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080811/pl_politico/19061;_ylt=AkDyORk4CCJRa5ASFo0c7lIDW7oF

-- August 11, 2008 2:14 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Valerio,

You stated, "If I need to rent one of my properties in an all white neighborhood, why is it wrong for me to not rent it to someone because their black? Is it not my property? Is it not I who is utimately effected? Why is it not my right to choose my renter? If my governments law says I must not refuse the man because of race, are they going to pay for the destruction of my property if the neighbors are angry?

If I need to hire someone to work at my store to unload trucks, why is it wrong that I don't hire the one applicant because is 70 yrs old? Is it not my money that I pay out? Is it not my store that I own? Who will recompence me if the old mans production is low? If the old man would have been more productive than the young man hired, Is it not I who pays for that mistake as well?

Twisting personal freedoms of choice into moral wrongs does more harm than good. Thats what keeps people in the same place, instead of them progressing.
Next they will say you can't refuse to date or marry because of age or race, or even worse, income level.

There will always be racism as long as there continues to be a recognizable differnce from one race to another, and thats not neccessarily wrong. What is wrong is sin, which is the transgression of Gods law. It is no more, or less wrong to offend your black neighbor, than it is your white neighbor.

It is no more, or less wrong to mistreat a woman, than it is to mistreat a man. I think these doctrines of racism, sexism, are more of a distraction to the real issues of right and wrong."

First let me start off with agreeing with you that "sin is a transgression of God's law." As a christian I wholeheartedly agree with you. I also agree with you about the 70 year old man and the heavy lifting; it is very possible that a 70 year old man might be less productive and his strength could be failing. These are factors that an employer looks at when hiring.

I also agree with you about not trying to offend people. However, you would drive yourself crazy if you thought you could please everyone. The one that I want to please the most is Jesus. Therefore, I evaluate what would Jesus do?

In the Job situation of hiring a 70 year old man, I would look at do I have a job less taxing of a 70 year old's strength. If I did, then I would probably offer this other job and not the one on the truck unloading merchadise. If not, than I would evaluate the man's ability to do the job. If he were not qualified, than I would turn him back to the employment office. I would not want to leave the man without hope of finding another job. This is the way I believe Jesus would handle it.

On another point, the Bible teaches us that all we have belongs to God and that God is just loaning to us material possessions that God entrust to our care. Do you believe this?. If you do, than evaluate the following statements you made.

"If I need to rent one of my properties in an all white neighborhood, why is it wrong for me to not rent it to someone because their black?"

"Is it not my property? Is it not I who is utimately effected?"

"Why is it not my right to choose my renter?"

"If my governments law says I must not refuse the man because of race, are they going to pay for the destruction of my property if the neighbors are angry?"

It is easy for each of us to think of our property as truly owned by ourselves....but in actuality, all property is owned by God and he expects us to evaluate it's use using his laws. What would Jesus do?

Think about it, pray about these items and study God's Word for your answers, Valerio. And thank you for chiming in on your opinions.

Laura Parker

-- August 11, 2008 3:14 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Army Has Spent $2.8 Billion on Iraq Aid
August 11, 2008
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - A U.S. Army program in which soldiers pay cash to Iraqis to help with expenses, large and small, has spent $2.8 billion in five years, The Washington Post reported Monday.

The Post reviewed records of the Commander's Emergency Response Program, which was intended for short-term humanitarian relief and reconstruction. The field manual laying out the guidelines for the program is called "Money as a Weapon System," pointing up the effectiveness of cold hard cash in winning over the hearts and minds of Iraqi civilians.

The largest sum of CERP money, $596.8 million, was spent on water and sanitation projects, the Post reported. Three other categories each received more than $300 million: electricity, protective measures (such as fencing and guards), and transportation and roads.

But the Army also spent lesser sums on smaller acts of largesse, including $48,000 for children's shoes; $50,000 for 625 sheep; $100,000 for dolls; and $500,000 for action figures designed to look like Iraqi security forces, the Post reported.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 11, 2008 5:26 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Laura:

Though I agree that our possessions ultimately belong to God, being good stewards of what he has entrusted to us is very important.

Hiring a 70 year old man to load trucks is not being a good steward and in my view is unwise. A 70 year old man cannot be productive enough to be an asset to the company.

Regarding the property rental; frankly, it is my house. God gave it to me to be the steward over and unfortunately renting to a minority can carry with it some negative connotations.

On the hand, renting to a minority with a steller credit score in an all white to the physical property; but could cause me some risk when ready to sell.

Since I am a free moral agent I get to choose who I hire and who I rent to.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 11, 2008 5:43 PM


Sara wrote:

This segment is GREAT, truly.

Video: Why we need experience in the White House
August 10, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

On ABC’s This Week, Bobby Jindal was asked about a sharp retort from John McCain after Obama said that McCain was unduly influenced towards our ally because of Scheuneman’s prior work for the Republic of Georgia. Instead of taking that bait, Jindal pressed the experience advantage McCain has over Obama and why it mattered in this crisis:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHCYEPgHYA

Why attack Scheuneman for working on behalf of a democratic ally of the United States? It seems especially strange now, while the Russians drop bombs on civilian centers in Gori and Tbilisi, and most people understand Russian intent to keep Georgia from allying even closer with the West. Scheuneman certainly did nothing wrong in representing Georgia previous to his work for McCain, and Obama’s attack on McCain suggests that Obama doesn’t value Georgia’s friendship and doesn’t understand the strategic necessity of Georgian independence from Moscow.

Jindal uses that as subtext to explain everything wrong with Obama’s response over the last 48 hours. Instead of scolding Russians for attacking Georgia, he told Georgia to exercise restraint as Russian bombers attacked their civilians. Instead of supporting an ally, Obama attacked McCain’s adviser for his previous work for Georgia, an attack supported by current lobbyists for Russia.

Obama clearly has no idea of the issues or the consequences surrounding Putin’s South Ossetia adventure. He’s flailing for a policy, while McCain — who’s actually been to Georgia and studied the ongoing political conflict for a decade — understood immediately what the outbreak of war means, and what its motives are. Jindal does a good job here in driving that point home, while Obama continues to demonize lobbyists as his only response to every policy issue.

Politics of fear? That’s all Obama can sell.

Comments:

1) Both the McCain response and the Jindal comments are totally valid and highlight Obama’s (and his advisors) total lack of both experience and world knowledge. If Obama keeps highlighting his obvious shortcomings he may not even come out of the democratic convention with the nomination. - duff65

2) McCain nailed it instantly with a good policy, based on knowledge.

Obama looked for cheap political points and talking points, because that is all he knows and nobody on his team had anything better to offer. - Right_of_Attila

3) In the real world in ordinary times, this election would not be happening. There is no way Mr. Empty Rhetoric No Experience Friend of Ayers Twenty Year Racist Hate Cult Member would even be considered against someone with McCain’s resume. - Nosferightu

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/10/video-why-we-need-experience-in-the-white-house/

PS I have been looking for RV news, but apart from the mere rumor about Talibani's health not being as good as he'd wish.. There really isn't much new out there. And it isn't worth reporting that kind of gossip, as it hasn't any proven basis in fact. Hence, in my looking, I found this (above) and thought it worth a post..

Interesting speculation, Rob N, Laura and Valerio.. on hiring practices. I only took exception to handling the question of "Presidential hiring" as being equivalent. (No nitpicking at you personally, Valerio, I hope you understand.. it is the issue I took fault with - it is important and cannot be made equivalent to the same level as hiring someone for a mere job, IMO.) No matter who you hire (or rent to), it is highly unlikely that person will make a decision which may affect if you live or die. Inexperience in the Whitehouse will affect many lives, if they live or die, as seen from the above clip. Leadership on these issues is crucial to the WORLD.. and an inexperienced puppy should not win the Whitehouse, merely on color preference.

Sara.

-- August 11, 2008 6:56 PM


cornishboy wrote:

LED on the purchase of Iraqi dinar in Egypt amid expectations of price increase http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNewsAr.aspx%3Fid%3D6678

-- August 11, 2008 7:54 PM


cornishboy wrote:

20 thousand Egyptian pounds = £1,975.15279

-- August 11, 2008 7:58 PM


Sara wrote:

WOW Cornishboy!
What an excellent find! :)
Thank YOU.

Sara.

-- August 11, 2008 8:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Jordan's king visits Iraq, urges Arabs to support
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA / AP
Monday, August 11, 2008;

BAGHDAD -- Jordan's King Abdullah II held talks Monday with Iraq's prime minister after coming to Baghdad on an unannounced visit, the first by an Arab head of state since the U.S.-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Abdullah called on Arab governments to "extend their hand to Iraq" because a strong Iraq "is a source of strength for the Arab nation," according to a statement released by the royal palace in the Jordanian capital of Amman.

An Iraqi government statement said Abdullah had "frank and positive talks" with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on relations between the two countries. Al-Maliki told the king that Iraq wanted to improve relations with all Arab countries, the statement said.

In turn, Abdullah expressed Jordan's support for Iraqi "efforts to impose stability," the statement added.

Jordan has also named an ambassador to Iraq, joining other Arab countries that have agreed to upgrade their relations as the Iraqi government becomes more stable and security has improved _ despite sporadic attacks and ongoing military operations.

The Jordanians maintained an embassy in Baghdad _ but without an ambassador _ even though the compound was attacked in August 2003 in the first car-bombing of the Iraq war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/11/AR2008081100565.html?hpid=moreheadlines

-- August 11, 2008 8:29 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Rob N.,

If you read my post clearly, I did not say I condemned Valerio's point of view on his hiring practices of a 70 year old man. I probably wouldn't hire he man either to unload trucks in his business. As to rental house, I believe the issue is left between himself and God and I made no mention of what he should do. I myself have rented to whites and found the house torn apart and I had to ask the white tenant to evict. I know, others have had black tenants, who have done the same. My mother always taught me to look not at skin color but on character. I know that Valerio has concerns that white neigbors would cause his property some harm too. These are all factors that have to be weighed.

I hope there is no hard feelings on this discussion on race. It was not my intent to cause any, or, to have others feeling that they were being told what to do. You are all adults and each can answer for himself/herself to their creator and yes, Rob N., because of who God is, you are a free moral agent to make your own decisions.

Sara,

RT news (Russian news) have been reporting that Georgia's President moved militarily against South Ossetia. His motives are that he wanted to join NATO and his application was rejected due to his country being in unrest/divided. Russia is claiming the President tried to commit genicide/war crimes by burning people out of their cities and killed many citizens that had Russian passports. About 80 percent of South Ossetia has Russian passports.

Then, if one goes over to Jewish news, one finds that the Jewish state had military trainers in Georgia. Russia accused the Jews of involving themselves in this crisis by supplying military supplies. The Jews held up these supplies and responded that the only help given to Georgia is defensive.

The Jewish news reported that these shipments were stopped as to not enrage Moscow's displeasure in order to get their help with the nuclear issue. The fear being that Moscow would provide materialist support and object to foreign diplomacy help on this issue. Moscow is currently holding up bilistic missile shipments to Tehran.

I do not know if I believe the RT news reports. Supposely, Georgia provided ceber-attacks on their RT News Reports effectively shutting down the news report. Of course, Georgia is stating that the Russians for months have been doing things to spark a response from this small country and the Western powers have advised Georgia to ignore these provocations.

I think I then to believe the NATO account that Russia did not want to see any of it's former republics joining NATO--to enlarge the list of allies. The country could not join NATO until there was total peace inside their country according to guidelines.

Another reason,I believe Russia attacked the country of Georgia is due to the oil and natural gas pipeline. This would have not been under Russian control anymore. It's been reported that the pentagon is now talking about rerouting the oil pipes thru Israel and Turkey alone. The Russians have been reported to have taken Gori and if this is true than Russian occupation has effectively keep the country from the Caspian Sea for shipment of oil.

Meanwhile, in Lebanon, to very high mountains have been taken over by Iran and Syrian forces with missiles. These missiles along with missiles supplies to Gaza can now hit most of Israel. Our top military general visited Lebanon to check out this situation and I am sure he was not there for tea. It's reported these missiles can hit everything in Israel except Eliat, the sea port use to ship oil.

Now to Iraq and Iran. I am now of the opinion that USA will not attack Iran until the end of 2008 year. Jewish news reported that Condi Rice and Iran came to an agreement that USA would not attack Iran over their nuclear program in exchange for Iran's help in stabilizing Iraq.

All of this success that Iraq has been experiencing is due to Iran giving information on Al-Quida and also giving orders to their operatives to stand down.

Iran's interest in all of this is that this agreement gives them more time to become nuclear. Iran is also reportedly giving USA troops information on Al-Quida and the USA and Iraqi's are going after Al-Quida and taking them down. This agreement will effectively get President Bush and Condi Rice out of office to let the next president take over.

All of extra spin/news stores that "USA and Iran were going to war" was to cause disinformation to keep news people away from this story according to Jewish news. The benefit to the USA is to help McCain get elected president and to get George Bush out a tight spot on his watch. I think I tend to believe the Jewish news.

It was further reported by Jewish news that their military experts that nothing will happen in Lebanon/Gaza because Iran does not want a military confrontation to unravel the USA/Iranian agreement.

However, I think it is also interesting that looking to Egypt, the Egyptian Muslem Brotherhood is now interested in joing forces with Al-Quida, Gaza strip, Fatha, Syria for jihab. This looks like a muslem planning and coorination.

After all these event, it was perfectly logical for Russia to move in on Georgia. The european union is not going to do anything about the incusion. I doubt hearing what I have been hearing that the USA will either due to our large inclusion in Iraq.

In fact, Russia's big excuse to what they did in Georgia---is that they are taking lessions from George W. Bush and what he did in Iraq. Thought you would all like to know.

Laura Parker
Of course, as a result, the Iraqi's have gained time to work politically and we are seeing the next problem of the annexation of Kirkuk. This will be sectarian infighting between the tribes. This whole geopolitcal thing may unravel yet.

-- August 11, 2008 8:49 PM


Anonymous wrote:

Sara and all,

I may have spoken too soon. Those aircraft carriers are enrout to Persian Gulf. See story below.

Three major US naval strike forces due this week in Persian Gulf
August 11, 2008, 10:37 AM (GMT+02:00)

New America armada around Iran
DEBKAfile’s military sources note that the arrival of the three new American flotillas will raise to five the number of US strike forces in Middle East waters – an unprecedented build-up since the crisis erupted over Iran’s nuclear program.
This vast naval and air strength consists of more than 40 carriers, warships and submarines, some of the last nuclear-armed, opposite the Islamic Republic, a concentration last seen just before the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Our military sources postulate five objects of this show of American muscle:
1. The US, aided also by France, Britain and Canada, is finalizing preparations for a partial naval blockade to deny Iran imports of benzene and other refined oil products. This action would indicate that the Bush administration had thrown in the towel on stiff United Nations sanctions and decided to take matters in its own hands.
2. Iran, which imports 40 percent of its refined fuel products from Gulf neighbors, will retaliate for the embargo by shutting the Strait of Hormuz oil route chokepoint, in which case the US naval and air force stand ready to reopen the Strait and fight back any Iranian attempt to break through the blockade.
3. Washington is deploying forces as back-up for a possible Israeli military attack on Iran’s nuclear installations.
4. A potential rush of events in which a US-led blockade, Israeli attack and Iranian reprisals pile up in a very short time and precipitate a major military crisis.
5. While a massive deployment of this nature calls for long planning, its occurrence at this time cannot be divorced from the flare-up of the Caucasian war between Russia and Georgia. While Russia has strengthened its stake in Caspian oil resources by its overwhelming military intervention against Georgia, the Americans are investing might in defending the primary Persian Gulf oil sources of the West and the Far East.
DEBKAfile’s military sources name the three US strike forces en route to the Gulf as the USS Theodore Roosevelt , the USS Ronald Reagan and the USS Iwo Jima . Already in place are the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Arabian Sea opposite Iranian shores and the USS Peleliu which is cruising in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.
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**It's kind of interesting to note that the USA is setting up an Israeli possible strike on Iran. USA is using the proxie and they will claim we did not know about the attack. Of course, the Israelis will be able to use the aircraft carriers for refueling.

The Iranians will of course strike back and try and close the strait. The USA will say they are simply defending themselves and oil resources. The Iranians will probably feel that they have been lied to by the USA diplomacy.

Laura Parker

-- August 11, 2008 10:38 PM


Valerio wrote:

Sara & Carol,
You see, you all say it's "wrong" to vote soley based on race, I said it's not "wrong". I never knew there was a line beside the ballot to mark the reason for your vote, so the right people can toss the "wrong" votes out, because they're "wrong". I will agree that it is an ignorant, uninformed, and destructive way to base your vote, and if people get elected by people that ignorant we are definately going to be in trouble. Truely it is more important to consider positions, beliefs, issues, political doctrine, character, credentials, and experience above all.

Laura,
Of coarse I know everything belongs to God, that's elementary.
My points were not concerning hiring practices, or renting practices, but about racism, and discrimination. Our society teaches that it's wrong and illegal to discrinate based on race, age, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc. But we are discriminate in every aspect of our lives, or you could call it discerning. We have to be that way. I don't like others taking freedoms of choice from me at my expense to offer them as benefits to someone else.

-- August 12, 2008 3:42 AM


mr dinar wrote:

This is Really nice to see that you guys have wide Mind

-- August 12, 2008 6:41 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Valerio,

I understand what you are saying and I hope you intend to vote in this Presidential election and let God be the one to guide this nation and it's next president.

Laura Parker

-- August 12, 2008 9:53 AM


Sara wrote:

Valerio - I have to agree with you about the importance of having discernment or judgement in all things when you said to Laura, "we are to discriminate in every aspect of our lives, or you could call it discerning. We have to be that way." People who are Christians have been beat over the head with the Scripture about "Judge not that you be not judged" so much, they think having an opinion and judging ANYTHING is wrong. That is not what it means in context of the wider Bible, as seen by this balancing and seemingly opposing Scripture:

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Instead of "don't judge about anything".. the Bible here instructs that the spiritual man judges ALL THINGS, yet is not judged of any man. That does not mean you don't have someone totally disagreeing with your opinion.. just that their judgement will not stand eternally, the spiritual are "judged of no man" eternally - similar to how we take the statement that there is no condemnation for those who are in Jesus (Ro 8:1). (Example: If a terrorist "court" convicts a spiritual person of violating their manmade laws, and kills them, that condemnation does not stand eternally, for there is no eternal condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, by God's Divine fiat.)

So when it comes to forming an opinion, say, based on the data of how 94% of a demographic group votes.. and if you judge that this shows something beyond party affiliation.. that judgement is not wrong to make because we are to make judgements about ALL things around us. The context of "judge not that you be not judged" is speaking of making a HYPOCRITICAL judgement.. where you are judging another but have "a beam" in your own eye. It is not speaking about coming to a logical conclusion based on data. In context, that admonition about NOT judging another says to take out the beam out of your own eye first, then you CAN JUDGE proper judgement (because he that is spiritual does judge all things).

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why do you behold the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not consider the beam that is in your own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how will you say to your brother, Let me pull out the speck out of your eye; and, behold, a beam is in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then you shall see clearly to cast out the speck out of your brother's eye.

The person in this passage is a hypocrite and not a "spiritual man" (as spoken of in in the above passage in 1 Corinthians) - a person walking carnally. (John Edwards comes to mind because he was making a platform on honesty and integrity, while he was acting the opposite way in his own life.) That person needs to remove their own hypocrisy (including totally repenting of all evil) and THEN they can see clearly to cast out the "speck" out of the other person's eye. IN CONTEXT, the idea of NEVER judging is not spoken of here... it is expected we will judge, and eventually pull that speck out of our brother's eye... "and then you shall see clearly to cast out the speck out of your brother's eye." The only concern is that the discernment given to the brother must be right judgement.. of a spiritual person who is not living in hypocrisy. So, yes, I will judge "all things" - including why 94% of blacks vote the way they do - since I am not judging the case with hypocritical or incorrect motives, such as racism. I will not do what the world says to do and put my brain on a shelf and make no judgement at all - because that is not what the Sciptures teach. I agree that your view is correct, "we are to discriminate in every aspect of our lives, or you could call it discerning. We have to be that way."

Sara.

-- August 12, 2008 10:16 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

An EXCELLENT post, thank you. I appreciate the insights.

Your post of thoughts on the Georgia incursion were well reasoned and informative. Indeed, it seems rational to me that some of the motives were as you stated, quote, "Russia did not want to see any of it's former republics joining NATO--to enlarge the list of allies." - as well as - "Russia attacked the country of Georgia is due to the oil and natural gas pipeline."

I think your post offers clues about why things are escalating when you said, "Meanwhile, in Lebanon, to very high mountains have been taken over by Iran and Syrian forces with missiles." Even if there is "an agreement that USA would not attack Iran over their nuclear program in exchange for Iran's help in stabilizing Iraq", that would not stand if there is a direct and imminent threat against Israel from those mountains. Obviously, the US intelligence has been double checked before making this move as you said, "Our top military general visited Lebanon to check out this situation and I am sure he was not there for tea. It's reported these missiles can hit everything in Israel except Eliat, the sea port use to ship oil." So if it is to war now, it is with full understanding of the military aspect and what we are facing there.

As for your statement, "All of this success that Iraq has been experiencing is due to Iran giving information on Al-Quida and also giving orders to their operatives to stand down." I cringe to give ANY credit to Iran whose IEDs and arms have been the CAUSE of so many casualties. Indeed, I disagree with this statement. I think it more likely the Iranians played both sides of the fence, both instigating (through Sadr operatives) to advance their own agenda, while shutting down the Al-Qaeda operatives at the same time. They may have helped with defeating that rival group, the Al-Qaeda.. but it was only to strengthen their own terrorism. Using the US/Coalition to defeat one rival, so they only had to face off against the US forces and not the US and Al-Qaeda. Sadr's groups had HEAVY weaponry.. which they got from Iran. Iran was setting up for taking over by instigating insurrection against the Iraqi government. Maliki was wise to take out Iran's proxies (Sadr and company) as well as going after the Al-Qaeda forces (which may have been with Iran's help to take out their rivals). I wouldn't give Iran much credit for the success in Iraq.. they were fomenting a lot of the violence.. and still are. They work in their own interests, PERIOD. They are not Iraq or America's "friends" and we shouldn't get chummy or attribute ALL of our success to these forces who are definitely the enemy. Limited portions of the success may have been contributed to by the Iranians (for their own selfish reasons), but you can bet if they thought they could have driven the US forces from Iraq by teaming up with Al-Qaeda, they would have. They have no loyalty to the US, nor are they trying to help the US forces in their aims, as their public statements loudly attest.

"Iran's interest in all of this is that this agreement gives them more time to become nuclear." That may be another reason why this is escalating now. Though Huffpo and other leftists think that this is all a conspiracy by the enemies in cahoots with the Bush Administration to benefit McCain, we do live in a hostile world with people trying to position themselves to take over the world and kill millions of people with nukes. The US may have to go to war - may be forced to go to war - in spite of wishing not to.

Your last statements included your observation, "It's kind of interesting to note that the USA is setting up an Israeli possible strike on Iran. USA is using the proxie and they will claim we did not know about the attack." It is not so much the US not knowing but more their not wanting this attack to happen. I believe in offering a strong looking offense, hoping the Iranians see the "writing on the wall" and change course. But in light of the facts you gave, I can see the US is feeling forced into this war posture, and the end result is likely to be war.

I do not believe the US is eagerly wishing for this confrontation, (nor are they in collaborative efforts with the enemy to bring about this result to benefit McCain's election bid) but they have sought all measures possible not to go to war first. As observed in the article, with a great degree of exasperation evident in the item, "This action would indicate that the Bush administration had thrown in the towel on stiff United Nations sanctions and decided to take matters in its own hands." There comes a time when the US is FORCED to war, because nothing else will work and it is wrong to stand by idly and do nothing - allowing nuclear devastation upon Israel (remember those mountain positions). It was hoped it would be avoidable, but it looks increasingly like it is not.. because Iran won't back down, and is positioning for war. So the claim will not be that the US did not know about the potential for attack, but that they took a war posture, hoping to deter the threat, but were FORCED into war by the provocations of Iran and their refusal to back down from making good on their threat to "wipe Israel from the map."

Sara.

-- August 12, 2008 11:33 AM


Sara wrote:

Read between the lines...

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Russia 'ends Georgia operation'
12 August 2008

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, the Kremlin says.

He told officials he had decided to end the campaign after restoring security for Russian citizens and peacekeepers in South Ossetia.

The BBC's Gabriel Gatehouse, near Gori, reported seeing sporadic artillery fire around the town right up until shortly before the Russian announcement.

But our correspondent later said military action in the area appeared to have stopped.

In Georgia's other breakaway region, Abkhazia, separatist rebels continued an offensive against Georgian troops in the Kodori Gorge region - the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian military control.

And British oil firm BP closed a key pipeline that runs through Georgia in response to the crisis. A larger pipeline, which runs from Azerbaijan through southern Georgia into Turkey, had shut earlier.

According to a statement, Mr Medvedev told his defence minister and chief of staff that "the goal has been attained".

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev announced, "The aggressor has been punished, having sustained considerable losses. Its armed forces have been disorganised."

The BBC's James Rodgers, in Moscow, says there is no sign yet that Russia is willing to engage in talks with the government in Tbilisi.

Russia's Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, has insisted that Georgia must sign a legally binding document on the non-use of force.

And Mr Medvedev warned that Russia would not tolerate any further Georgian military activity in South Ossetia, saying: "Should centres of resistance or other aggressive attempts arise, you must take the decision to destroy them."

Georgia also remained sceptical, the country's prime minister telling Reuters that troops would remain "mobilised... ready for anything" until a binding agreement was signed between the two countries.

News of Mr Medvedev's decision emerged as French President Nicolas Sarkozy arrived in Moscow expecting to press Russia on the need for a ceasefire.

Mr Sarkozy said the Russian announcement was "good news" and called for an immediate implementation of the ceasefire.

The BBC's diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says the timing of the Russian president's announcement is important.

Mr Sarkozy is currently serving as president of the European Union, our correspondent notes, and arrived in Moscow to speak on behalf of the entire bloc.

The Russian move also followed strong comments from US President George W Bush, in which he spoke directly of concerns that Russia was planning to topple Georgia's pro-Western president.

"Russia has invaded a sovereign neighbouring state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people," he said. "Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st Century."

Our correspondent says Mr Medvedev's announcement must be seen in the light of the US president's words.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7555858.stm

-- August 12, 2008 11:59 AM


John McCain at Karaoke wrote:

Sung to the tune of the Beach Boys, Barbara Ann: "Bomb bomb Iran. Bomb bomb Iran. Bomb Ira-a-an""

John McCain on Putin: "I looked into his eyes, and I saw three letters: KGB"

-- August 12, 2008 12:03 PM


Carole wrote:

I am wondering if Roger remembers chastising me several months ago when I submitted a discussion about the Russians, and Putkin having a plan in his back pocket?

Roger basically refuted that Russia had no interest in international aggression and pre-occupied with just trying to feed their people.

OH well, that was the past!

reality is that Putkin is a former high ranking KGB, and has never accepted or gotten over the purported fall of the Soviet Union. I still hold to my opinion ( and very much accepted ) that Russia is the biggest threat to the world! Iran, Syria, Hamas, etc...are just their "front-men".

In my opinion we must continue with the precept established by Regan concerning Russia..."PEACE THRU STRENGTH". We must stand in full force up to them NOW! We have the international community on our side NOW. That will diminish tremendously if we do not aggressively respond NOW!

Hopefully Condi Rice is who we all think she is and that she is pulling the strings on this one! If she is not who we think she is, then she is just a very well educated person on Russia History and affairs who will give them an inch.....and they will take a million miles
and the Magog march across the face of the world may be formulating!

If I were President, I would hold Iraq accomplishments in place with ONLY the necessary military to do that and divert all ready and available troops, air power, naval power etc to confront Russia in Georgia and stop them dead...NOW! I would also seriously consider instituting the Draft, or at the very least start internationally verbalizing that consideration. And I would do whatever it takes to pull Georgia and the Ukraine into NATO today!

And ( close your ears Laura) I would instruct the CIA to do "their thing" with Obama! Sorry folks....but he is the second most threat to our national and international security ( Russia being the first).

This is the CLIMAX of the 60year cold war....and it is going to warm up real fast, with the threat of nuclear war at its highest point in history.

I wonder what we will be posting 60 days from now..?????

Carole

-- August 12, 2008 12:17 PM


Carole wrote:

Just heard about the Russian cease fire implementation. First of all, I don't believe it. Sara was right.. this got RUSSIA strategically placed close to Iran, where an attack from Israel is eminent. Secondly, this cease fire has robbed the US of demonstrating its commitment and power to stand firm against the attack of a sovereign democratic nation. The US must help restore Georgia to its previous state before the invasion and attack and must secure those pipelines.

It's not over till it's over.

Carole

-- August 12, 2008 12:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Carole;

I agree with you that Russia is a danger, but I have to say that I do not think they are the BIGGEST threat in the world, and certainly not the biggest threat to the US directly. The one the United States needs to worry about, which will be affecting the future of the nation, isn't even the jihadis. Although this current conflict with radical Islamic terrorists is important and we must be vigilant or suffer the consequences, the biggest threat to the Homeland of America.. is not from either the jihadis or the Russians. As I was reading this morning in an article titled, "Iran Worried over Georgian Conflict" - it says, quote:

"Tehran sees Georgia as an important part of U.S. plans to increase its influence in the region — and fears that such a plan may affect them directly. These concerns were reflected in an article published in Tabnak, owned by former Revolutionary Guards commander Mohsen Rezai. In an interview with Dr. Mehdi Senai, a politics lecturer at Tehran University, Senai said that Tehran’s nuclear program, and the international approach to resolve the dispute surrounding it, may become part of a wider agreement between the U.S. and Russia after the end of the conflict. What worries him is that “Russia’s capacity to confront the U.S. is limited.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-worried-over-georgian-conflict/

This may be part of why the Russians have called a ceasefire. But note that statement, “Russia’s capacity to confront the U.S. is limited.” THAT is true.. and though they are a concern, they are definitely NOT the BIGGEST threat to the United States in the future. The Lord has given me a heads up on this one, and I have been looking into it for some time.. This article reflects some of my ultimate concerns about the BIGGEST threat in the world to the US.. China.

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The 180lbs. "Guerilla": China's Military Aspirations
By Nancy Salvato
MichNews.com
Jul 25, 2008

As the mainstream media is dominated by its attention to the preparations for Beijing Olympics being held August 8-24 this year, an obvious truth is being ignored or going unaddressed. The more important story is that China is on a mission to dominate the United States and the rest of the world militarily by building nuclear weaponry meant to defeat the United States on the world stage. The actual Olympics pale in comparison to this upcoming event. And while our people continue to be distracted by a variety of “shiny things” meant to divert their attention, the Chinese continue their march to dominance in the military sphere. What serves to distract our nation from such an important subject?

First, there is the notion of Global Warming. Then, the upcoming election serves as a distraction -- in that the really important issues are not discussed and instead media attention is focused on Barak Obama’s associations, none of which enlightens the electorate on Obama’s strategic plan for the defense of our country, if he was to be elected to the highest office of the land. If Obama had plans to aggressively fight terror, secure our borders, and defend our sovereignty, I think it would be safe to say that most of the people who want to see this on his platform would ignore all the rest.

The “recession” is another shiny thing. In an article in the Wall Street Journal, J.P. Morgan’s chief economist Bruce Kasman is quoted, ‘While earlier this year it seemed like momentum was carrying the economy into a clear recession, there's only "a slightly better than even chance" of a recession now. "Even though there are meaningful drags from the credit crisis and energy costs, the economy is showing resiliency."’

Human Event’s Mac Johnson writes: “Highlighting economic (and other) bad news anytime it can be pinned on a Republican incumbent (or his successor) has been standard procedure in the left-leaning media for decades...Talking down” the economy to bolster a Democrat challenger is nothing new.

Finally, the headlines are dominated by Iraq, Iran, Israel, Syria, and Pakistan. No one would dispute that there is reason to fear the volatile nature of the Middle East and the exporting of Muslim extremists to the United States, the possible activation of terrorist cells with nuclear capability in our own country, and the political correctness which contradicts our rule of law and detracts from our ability to defend ourselves against foreign agents operating on our soil.

Getting back to China...China now has a new fleet of submarines which can launch Julang-2 (JL-2) ballistic missiles, “Five Type 094 missile submarines could account for over 180 warheads,” Richard Fisher, a military affairs specialist with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, is quoted as saying. Julang-2 missiles could be used to target Guam, Alaska and Hawaii. China acquired all the needed technology from the U.S. during the 1990s (during Clinton’s term in office). Particularly troublesome is the following contradiction in why China has embarked on their military buildup:

“China’s rise in international trade and commerce, plus its growing dependence on imported foreign oil, also has expanded Beijing’s maritime strategy from a mostly submarine force to one of building surface ships to “defend sea lines of communication” (SLOCs).” (IBID)

“Chinese Gen. Zhu Chenghu told reporters in 2005 that China would attack U.S. cities with nuclear weapons in response to any conventionally armed U.S. missile strikes against China during a conflict over Taiwan. Years earlier, Gen. Xiong Guangkai threatened to use nuclear weapons against Los Angeles if the U.S. helped Taiwan defend against a Chinese invasion of the island.” (IBID)

China’s advanced cyberwarfare capability has been implicated in, “a number of intrusions and attacks on military, government and corporate systems,” which are tied to the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). Stratfor China is also developing an anti-ship ballistic missile and electromagnetic pulse weapons (which are also a threat from Iran) which can be used to wipe out electronic systems over a very wide area. (IBID). All of this means that the United States must involve itself in an expensive arms race if it is to maintain superiority in weapons technology and defense capability. Certainly, this should be a topic of election concern.

The 2008 election is a great disappointment. Each candidate’s appeal to voters appears to be based on a level of examination of the issues reflective of an intellectual challenge more suited to the kind of popularity contests influencing junior high school class elections all over America. It’s frightening to think that one of the candidates for office has captivated the electorate because he is articulate and good looking even though he is completely devoid of experience on the foreign stage and does not have a coherent plan for running our country. Furthermore, his understanding and loyalty to this country’s rule of law can legitimately be considered questionable. And while the other candidate seems to have a much better understanding of the threat of radical Islam, he is too quick to pander to potential voters on non issues such as global warming and the economy, contributing to a massive misinformation campaign designed to detract from what is really important.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20784.shtml

BELIEVE me on this one.. the most devastating threat to the US Homeland we must be concerned about.. the one which will come and will affect the entire future of North America.. will not be from Russia or even the jihadis.. but from China. (Timeline: 150 years.) Yes, the IMMEDIATE threat is radical Islam (of which Iran may act as a proxy for Russia) .. but that will pale in comparison to what is going to happen after that.. with China. If the US had foresight.. it would radically change its posture and relationship toward China... considering what they will do to the US in the future. The above represents only a sliver of where they are heading..

Sara.

-- August 12, 2008 1:23 PM


Sara wrote:

One more post on China (no Dinar)
Know thy enemy..
and how he will act.
(Once they finish here.. where to next?)

==

How China's taking over Africa, and why the West should be VERY worried
By Andrew Malone
18th July 2008

On June 5, 1873, in a letter to The Times, Sir Francis Galton, the cousin of Charles Darwin and a distinguished African explorer in his own right, outlined a daring (if by today's standards utterly offensive) new method to 'tame' and colonise what was then known as the Dark Continent.

'My proposal is to make the encouragement of Chinese settlements of Africa a part of our national policy, in the belief that the Chinese immigrants would not only maintain their position, but that they would multiply and their descendants supplant the inferior Negro race,' wrote Galton.

'I should expect that the African seaboard, now sparsely occupied by lazy, palavering savages, might in a few years be tenanted by industrious, order-loving Chinese, living either as a semidetached dependency of China, or else in perfect freedom under their own law.'

Despite an outcry in Parliament and heated debate in the august salons of the Royal Geographic Society, Galton insisted that 'the history of the world tells the tale of the continual displacement of populations, each by a worthier successor, and humanity gains thereby'.

A controversial figure, Galton was also the pioneer of eugenics, the theory that was used by Hitler to try to fulfil his mad dreams of a German Master Race.

Yet Sir Francis Galton, it now appears, was ahead of his time. His vision is coming true - if not in the way he imagined. An astonishing invasion of Africa is now under way.

In the greatest movement of people the world has ever seen, China is secretly working to turn the entire continent into a new colony.

Reminiscent of the West's imperial push in the 18th and 19th centuries - but on a much more dramatic, determined scale - China's rulers believe Africa can become a 'satellite' state, solving its own problems of over-population and shortage of natural resources at a stroke.

With little fanfare, a staggering 750,000 Chinese have settled in Africa over the past decade. More are on the way.

The strategy has been carefully devised by officials in Beijing, where one expert has estimated that China will eventually need to send 300 million people to Africa to solve the problems of over-population and pollution.

The plans appear on track. Across Africa, the red flag of China is flying. Lucrative deals are being struck to buy its commodities - oil, platinum, gold and minerals. New embassies and air routes are opening up. The continent's new Chinese elite can be seen everywhere, shopping at their own expensive boutiques, driving Mercedes and BMW limousines, sending their children to exclusive private schools.

The pot-holed roads are cluttered with Chinese buses, taking people to markets filled with cheap Chinese goods. More than a thousand miles of new Chinese railroads are crisscrossing the continent, carrying billions of tons of illegally-logged timber, diamonds and gold.

The trains are linked to ports dotted around the coast, waiting to carry the goods back to Beijing after unloading cargoes of cheap toys made in China.

Confucius Institutes (state-funded Chinese 'cultural centres') have sprung up throughout Africa, as far afield as the tiny land-locked countries of Burundi and Rwanda, teaching baffled local people how to do business in Mandarin and Cantonese.

Massive dams are being built, flooding nature reserves. The land is scarred with giant Chinese mines, with 'slave' labourers paid less than £1 a day to extract ore and minerals.

Pristine forests are being destroyed, with China taking up to 70 per cent of all timber from Africa.

All over this great continent, the Chinese presence is swelling into a flood. Angola has its own 'Chinatown', as do great African cities such as Dar es Salaam and Nairobi.

Exclusive, gated compounds, serving only Chinese food, and where no blacks are allowed, are being built all over the continent. 'African cloths' sold in markets on the continent are now almost always imported, bearing the legend: 'Made in China'.

From Nigeria in the north, to Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and Angola in the west, across Chad and Sudan in the east, and south through Zambia, Zimbabwe and Mozambique, China has seized a vice-like grip on a continent which officials have decided is crucial to the superpower's long-term survival.

'The Chinese are all over the place,' says Trevor Ncube, a prominent African businessman with publishing interests around the continent. 'If the British were our masters yesterday, the Chinese have taken their place.'

Likened to one race deciding to adopt a new home on another planet, Beijing has launched its so-called 'One China In Africa' policy because of crippling pressure on its own natural resources in a country where the population has almost trebled from 500 million to 1.3 billion in 50 years.

China is hungry - for land, food and energy. While accounting for a fifth of the world's population, its oil consumption has risen 35-fold in the past decade and Africa is now providing a third of it; imports of steel, copper and aluminium have also shot up, with Beijing devouring 80 per cent of world supplies.

Fuelling its own boom at home, China is also desperate for new markets to sell goods. And Africa, with non-existent health and safety rules to protect against shoddy and dangerous goods, is the perfect destination.

The result of China's demand for raw materials and its sales of products to Africa is that turnover in trade between Africa and China has risen from £5million annually a decade ago to £6billion today.

However, there is a lethal price to pay. There is a sinister aspect to this invasion. Chinese-made war planes roar through the African sky, bombing opponents. Chinese-made assault rifles and grenades are being used to fuel countless murderous civil wars, often over the materials the Chinese are desperate to buy.

Take, for example, Zimbabwe. Recently, a giant container ship from China was due to deliver its cargo of three million rounds of AK-47 ammunition, 3,000 rocket-propelled grenades and 1,500 mortars to President Robert Mugabe's regime.

After an international outcry, the vessel, the An Yue Jiang, was forced to return to China, despite Beijing's insistence that the arms consignment was a 'normal commercial deal'.

Indeed, the 77-ton arms shipment would have been small beer - a fraction of China's help to Mugabe. He already has high-tech, Chinese-built helicopter gunships and fighter jets to use against his people.

Ever since the U.S. and Britain imposed sanctions in 2003, Mugabe has courted the Chinese, offering mining concessions for arms and currency.

While flying regularly to Beijing as a high-ranking guest, the 84-year-old dictator rants at 'small dots' such as Britain and America.

He can afford to. Mugabe is orchestrating his campaign of terror from a 25-bedroom, pagoda-style mansion built by the Chinese. Much of his estimated £1billion fortune is believed to have been siphoned off from Chinese 'loans'.

The imposing grey building of ZANU-PF, his ruling party, was paid for and built by the Chinese. Mugabe received £200 million last year alone from China, enabling him to buy loyalty from the army.

In another disturbing illustration of the warm relations between China and the ageing dictator, a platoon of the China People's Liberation Army has been out on the streets of Mutare, a city near the border with Mozambique, which voted against the president in the recent, disputed election.

Almost 30 years ago, Britain pulled out of Zimbabwe - as it had done already out of the rest of Africa, in the wake of Harold Macmillan's 'wind of change' speech. Today, Mugabe says: 'We have turned East, where the sun rises, and given our backs to the West, where the sun sets.'

Despite Britain's commendable colonial legacy of a network of roads, railways and schools, the British are now being shunned.

According to one veteran diplomat: 'China is easier to do business with because it doesn't care about human rights in Africa - just as it doesn't care about them in its own country. All the Chinese care about is money.'

Nowhere is that more true than Sudan. Branded 'Africa's Killing Fields', the massive oil-rich East African state is in the throes of the genocide and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of black, non-Arab peasants in southern Sudan.

In effect, through its supplies of arms and support, China has been accused of underwriting a humanitarian scandal. The atrocities in Sudan have been described by the U.S. as 'the worst human rights crisis in the world today'.

Mugabe has received hundreds of millions of pounds from Chinese sources

The government in Khartoum has helped the feared Janjaweed militia to rape, murder and burn to death more than 350,000 people.

The Chinese - who now buy half of all Sudan's oil - have happily provided armoured vehicles, aircraft and millions of bullets and grenades in return for lucrative deals. Indeed, an estimated £1billion of Chinese cash has been spent on weapons.

According to Human Rights First, a leading human rights advocacy organisation, Chinese-made AK-47 assault rifles, grenade launchers and ammunition for rifles and heavy machine guns are continuing to flow into Darfur, which is dotted with giant refugee camps, each containing hundreds of thousands of people.

Between 2003 and 2006, China sold Sudan $55 million worth of small arms, flouting a United Nations weapons embargo.

With new warnings that the cycle of killing is intensifying, an estimated two thirds of the non-Arab population has lost at least one member of their families in Darfur.

Although two million people have been uprooted from their homes in the conflict, China has repeatedly thwarted United Nations denunciations of the Sudanese regime.

While the Sudanese slaughter has attracted worldwide condemnation, prompting Hollywood film-maker Steven Spielberg to quit as artistic director of the Beijing Olympics, few parts of Africa are now untouched by China.

In Congo, more than £2billion has been 'loaned' to the government. In Angola, £3 billion has been paid in exchange for oil. In Nigeria, more than £5billion has been handed over.

In Equatorial Guinea, where the president publicly hung his predecessor from a cage suspended in a theatre before having him shot, Chinese firms are helping the dictator build an entirely new capital, full of gleaming skyscrapers and, of course, Chinese restaurants.

After battling for years against the white colonial powers of Britain, France, Belgium and Germany, post-independence African leaders are happy to do business with China for a straightforward reason: cash.

With western loans linked to an insistence on democratic reforms and the need for 'transparency' in using the money (diplomatic language for rules to ensure dictators do not pocket millions), the Chinese have proved much more relaxed about what their billions are used for.

Certainly, little of it reaches the continent's impoverished 800 million people. Much of it goes straight into the pockets of dictators. In Africa, corruption is a multi-billion pound industry and many experts believe that China is fuelling the cancer.

The Chinese are contemptuous of such criticism. To them, Africa is about pragmatism, not human rights. 'Business is business,' says Chinese Deputy Foreign Minister Zhou Wenzhong, adding that Beijing should not interfere in 'internal' affairs. 'We try to separate politics from business.'

While the bounty has, not surprisingly, been welcomed by African dictators, the people of Africa are less impressed. At a market in Zimbabwe recently, where Chinese goods were on sale at nearly every stall, one woman told me she would not waste her money on 'Zing-Zong' products.

'They go Zing when they work, and then they quickly go Zong and break,' she said. 'They are a waste of money. But there's nothing else. China is the only country that will do business with us.'

There have also been riots in Zambia, Angola and Congo over the flood of Chinese immigrant workers. The Chinese do not use African labour where possible, saying black Africans are lazy and unskilled.

In Angola, the government has agreed that 70 per cent of tendered public works must go to Chinese firms, most of which do not employ Angolans.

As well as enticing hundreds of thousands to settle in Africa, they have even shipped Chinese prisoners to produce the goods cheaply.

In Kenya, for example, only ten textile factories are still producing, compared with 200 factories five years ago, as China undercuts locals in the production of 'African' souvenirs.

Where will it all end? As far as Beijing is concerned, it will stop only when Africa no longer has any minerals or oil to be extracted from the continent.

A century after Sir Francis Galton outlined his vision for Africa, the Chinese are here to stay. More will come.

The people of this bewitching, beautiful continent, where humankind first emerged from the Great Rift Valley, desperately need progress. The Chinese are not here for that.

They are here for plunder. After centuries of pain and war, Africa deserves better.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1036105/How-Chinas-taking-Africa-West-VERY-worried.html

-- August 12, 2008 1:46 PM


Carole wrote:

Sara,
Thanks for all the data on China. They most certainly are to be concerned about. Russian/ China relations are a concern too.

It all spells disaster, and I agree a massive build up of our arms program is much needed. I also think a check and balance of trade with CHINA IS MUCH NEEDED. Since American consumers have made his nation an industrial super power.

One can only hope that Russian aggression has bee curtailed, but I truly don't think so. I think that soon sides will be drawn, internationally. And I wold agree with you that when it comes right down to it, the Chinese will stand against the US.

Oh Boy! time to take a blood pressure pill and get on my knees to the One who knows the beginning to the end and has it all under His control!

Carole

-- August 12, 2008 2:05 PM


Franko wrote:

And thanks as well Sara for all.....God Bless

Franko

-- August 12, 2008 3:50 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

NON-DINAR:

Carole,

Interesting views on Russia.

Let me play devil's advocate for a minute, just for fun. You say, if you were President, you'd consider bringing back the draft. My sister and I had such a discussion once. She's a liberal, a strong feminist, with an occassional hawkish streak. So she toyed with the idea that under the right set of circumstances, America might have to bring back the draft.

The conversation went like this:

Tim Bitts: Bring back the draft? Really?

Trina Bitts: Yes, it might be necessary if George Bush keeps starting more wars. (nasty scowl on face as she slowly says the words "George....Bush")

Tim Bitts: So you'd want women to die in combat? How cru-el.

Trina Bitts: (looking innocent) Who said anything about women dying in combat?

Tim Bitts: (innocently) But you told me last week men and women are equal.

Trina Bitts: (getting into feminist mode) They are, only women are better.

Tim Bitts: (pretends to be offended) Thanks for that sexist remark. How are women better?

Trina Bitts: Men start all the wars.

Tim Bitts: Oh I see, men are in favour of aggression, and women are shrinking violets. (Tim Bitts looking around the room at his other brothers and sisters...."I don't see any shrinking violet females in this room. I must be in the wrong room"....Big laugh)

Trina Bitts: (rolls eyes slightly) Anyway, men start wars. They have to do the dying.

Tim Bitts: (pretends to be reasonable and sincere) "I see, but you told me you thought Hillary should be President. And she voted for the Iraq War. So a woman can be President, and can send men to die in war, by the thousands, but you can't send a single woman to die in war? That's not fair...... Myself, I'm in favour of equality for women..... If there's a draft, it means everyone."

Trina Bitts: (annoyed) Forget that!

-- August 12, 2008 6:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Franko, and Carole.
Just a note on statistics of how people feel about this conflict and how it reflects on the race (which will affect our Dinar).

==

59% see Russian Invasion of Georgia as Threat
Tuesday, August 12, 2008

The majority of Americans (59%) regard Russia’s ongoing invasion of neighboring Georgia as a threat to U.S. national security, but less than a third (31%) believe the United States should take any diplomatic action against Russia.

Just over half (51%) also believe that John McCain is the best equipped of the two major presidential candidates to handle a similar crisis in the future, while 36% believe Barack Obama is the better of the two to deal with this kind of situation.

While some have suggested that the Georgia conflict signals a potential return to the tensions of the Cold War, Americans are fairly evenly divided over whether Russia is a growing national security problem. Thirty-nine percent (39%) say Russia is a growing problem, but 36% say it is not.

Women are more concerned than men over the Russia-Georgia situation. Sixty-three percent (63%) of women regard it as at least a somewhat serious threat to U.S. national security versus 54% of men who feel that way. Women also have more confidence in Obama to deal with a similar crisis than men do. Men prefer McCain to Obama in such a situation 56% to 30%, but 40% of women think Obama could handle it best. More women (46%), however, still think McCain is the man for the job.

Half of Republicans (50%) say Russia is a growing national security problem versus 33% of Democrats and 35% of unaffiliated voters. Twenty percent (20%) of both Republicans and Democrats agree Russia is a Very Serious threat to U.S. national security, a view shared by only 9% of unaffiliateds.

Although 85% of Republicans believe McCain is the better of the two presidential candidates to handle a similar crisis in the future, only 61% of Democrats feel that way about Obama. More than one-out-of-five Democrats (22%) think the Republican presidential candidate would handle it better than the prospective candidate of their own party. Only 8% of GOP voters favor Obama over McCain in such a situation. Among unaffiliated voters, 56% prefer McCain while 28% like Obama better.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/general_current_events/59_see_russian_invasion_of_georgia_as_threat

-- August 12, 2008 6:28 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Non-Dinar

Sara,

Very interesting stuff on China. I guess China can get away with unethical behaviour in China because it is a virtual dictatorship without a history of freedom of speech.... I once had a really good dinner in a Chinese restaurant in Nairobi 15 years ago, and I was surprised that the Chinese were there. (I was also surprised to find a nice synagogue)

China is playing it very smart, on Africa. Chinese rulers are no doubt away of the history of colonization and exploitation, in Africa, by Europeans, and have learned from that. No need to invade Africa with guns, and tanks, for now. Better to colonize the place with more and more Chinese, help the people out with cheap goods, conquer African leaders through bribery, and divide and conquer the African people, playing on natural rivalries.

I remember being in Africa and thinking, this is a beautiful and rich place, with amazing natural resources. I remember thinking, this SHOULD BE a very rich place, if it were managed properly. I guess the Chinese figured that out too.

And if things continue, China will have the rich resources of an entire continent, whose resources they can exploit, so China will make it's play to become the dominant culture and economic force, on Planet Earth.

Although Roger doesn't agree, I think the Chinese have a good chance of pulling it off. Surely, if China can continue to grow economically, and solve it's enviromental problems, and if the other cities in China eventually are as rich and educated as Hong Kong, then surely China will rule the world, probably by the end of this century.

One criticism I have always had of the press in general in the United States (as well as Canada) is that there is pitifully little coverage of African affairs. As an avid newspaper reader with an interest in Africa, I have always been frustrated by the lack of media attention on Africa. As a result, most people are basically completely ignorant of anything to do with Africa. So the Chinese can get away with all sorts of horrors and nonsense, and they will get very little criticism from Western newspaper, because people in North America are so poorly informed on Africa, the public generally doesn't care because they don't know what's going on, anyhow.

-- August 12, 2008 6:37 PM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts - (NO DINAR in this response) I know the feminist (and fantasy ideological) retort to that one. If you elect a woman as President they will never go to war.. the world will become peaceful because no woman would send her daughter (or sons) to war. If all countries elected women, the world would be at peace because women are not aggressive. Of course.. I always wondered how come women are worse at catfighting and nitpicking than men.. and realized once I came to know Jesus that the ideology of women being superior (and more peaceful) is predicated on the belief that women are somehow less sinful than men and capable of less violence. While on the surface it may appear to have some degree of reason to it on a physical level, since women commit less physical crimes than men statistically, the reality is that the statistic is so low only due to the fact that females are wired differently in their reactions under stress, not due to being less sinful in those reactions. As I noted, in normal relations where stress is absent, women can be far worse than men in their nitpicky and hurtful catfighty ways. I contend they are not less sinful than men, but merely manifest less aggressively under stress due to their biological makeup. The study:

Neuroscientists Find That Men And Women Respond Differently To Stress

April 1, 2008 — Functional magnetic resonance imaging of men and women under stress showed neuroscientists how their brains differed in response to stressful situations. In men, increased blood flow to the left orbitofrontal cortex suggested activation of the "fight or flight" response. In women, stress activated the limbic system, which is associated with emotional responses.

There are many books and movies that highlight the psychological differences between men and women -- Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus, for example; but now, neurologists say they have brain images that prove male and female brains do work differently -- at least under stress.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2008/0403-men_are_from_mars.htm

WAR is a stress situation, and the differing brain pathways make women's response to such stress emotional - it ACTIVATES the limbic system, associated with emotional response, above - and men's more physical (ACTIVATING the fight part of fight or flight response). These responses are done by the body without concious thought, a response of the body like blinking - done without thinking. While feminists believe that the female's more passive response physically makes a woman superior in how she would handle going to war.. aggressive males set on going to war are not likely to be deterred from their aims by reasoning and appeals to emotion. (Appeasement would never work with a Hitler.) There does come a time where the only response to aggression.. is the one men have instinctually.. to fight back. We are close to that point now in the conflict with Iran... the point where reasoning and emotional concerns must give way to the more aggressive tendencies of fight or flight.

As for battle, the reason your sister was not willing to fight is also here. A woman under intense stress in a war situation is more likely to break down in tears and be unable to control her emotions (say, if she were to see her companion die in front of her), whereas a man in the same situation would respond by taking care of the business using his natural fight or flight response, and dealing with the emotional issues later. On the frontline, faced with real war tragedy, I contend that the natural emotional female response would not be the wisest one and she would have to be trained to go against her natural inclination toward emotional response and discipline herself to do what a male does instinctually in battle.. use the fight or flight pathway. Going against nature is a gamble and I think this very unwise.

This study shows that this is the factual reason behind what your sister feels instinctually - females, by their magnetic resonance images, are proven to be less able to hold up emotionally and ACT appropriately to battle conditions under stress and therefore should not be put in the frontlines. This is why your sister's response is that she would not like to fight, "Forget that." Females can, by sheer determination, force themselves to act with more male responses.. but that would not be a natural response but one which is learned through much training and discipline (if entered into willingly and continually, as someone acting that professional capacity as a soldier). Or, it could be the response using sheer willpower for those who find themselves suddenly thrust under such duress, such as in Georgia, where, no doubt, flight responses were faster in civilian men than women under bombardment.

As the adrenaline rises in the person in a combat zone situation, women have to fight with their natural emotional responses to gain control and use fight or flight. Quite a few women do not have the.. mental fortitude.. to overcome by sheer determination their natural proclivities under duress.. and would fail to do what would preserve her own life and those of her companions, due to the failure within the female emotional makeup. (They lose their heads and would be complete failures under fire.) This reality is why women are not generally put into combat conditions, though it is glossed over as unPC to admit to it, because feminists would like to believe they can do anything a man can do. In my opinion, it is likely that a few very well trained and disciplined women could manage frontline soldiering.. but only with intense training to act against their own natural responses. And 99% of women don't even want the opportunity to face battle - not only with the enemy, but also against their own natural female makeup and response, just to prove their supposed equality. Hence the natural female response, "Forget that!"

Sara.

-- August 12, 2008 7:36 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

When I said, "All this success" in Iraq is due to Iranian help in Iraq due to Condi Rice and Iran's agreement.... I was not implying that USA did not do the work to stablize the country. You must admit... that recently... Iraq has had relative calm on the military side of things. There are elements in Iraq that the military views as Iranian agents like the BADR organization and Sadr's. If Iran is pulling the strings... What I am wondering is how peaceful things will be in Iraq when this truce (agreement between USA and Iran) is broken.

In addition, alot of the input I gave came from readings I had made and I wanted to give the blend of how our actions are going to be seen by Iran and possibility the rest of the world. We do not act in vacuum. Just like the Soviet Union does not act in a vacuum.

Do you know that the Soviet Union gave as a reason for stopping its attack on Georgia... that they were concerned about how americans were going to view their attack on Georgia?. I thought this interesting.

What I was attempting to do was to tie the geopolitical information I was seeing and reading about to keep everyone informed. Just like your China piece you just wrote about. Very informative. China is going to be a factor to recken with in the future...but for now, I am more concerned for our men and women in uniform in the Persian Gulf.

I do not believe the USA will be without warning about when Israel attacks Iran. I also do not believe that Iran will view our assistance to Israel as a non-attack... and therefore I gave a picture of what they will be saying about the situation.

The USA will be viewed a people who cannot keep our word... dispite the military situation Iran and Syria have created on those two mountains in Lebanon. They will look at us and say, the USA had early warning systems in other countries. Why can't we?.

Our country is being looked at as having double standards to maintain our stand of living. Russia's Putin stated that USA accounts for the majority of the use of oil (although, I think our use is 25 per cent). He stated when the USA talks of free trade, they mean trade that will benefit them more proportionately than the rest of the world. When the rest of the word talks about trade, we talk about fair trade.

While I do not agree with the above statement, I can see what Putin is talking about. America is viewed as the richest country in the world. And, we are the quote "super power"... that Georgian's were hoping on for their own security and now feel betrayed by lack of USA intervention. I really feel for these people and understand where they are coming from. Many of whom live in poverty or lower economic means in Georgia and elsewhere.

I know this is not how american's feel about our own western hemisphere experience--- we are going to say,... we are a nation of debtors. And, we are.

Carole, had written a piece of her concern about, 'How long we will stay a super-power and a nation due to our national debt and other factors?.' Among one of these items is our large debt to China.

Another concern, Carole stated was our nation's government inability to get anything done in Washington (girdlock) and our legislature's lack of listening to their constitents and not doing what the people wanted to get done. An example: Securing and building that fence on our nations border. Immigration reform and Security of our nation issues.

And as I recall, Carole also brought up our nation's deteriorating morale/spiritual condition...when she spoke of the marriage act in California. All these factors and probably some I have not mentioned in this writing can lead to this nation's demise. See Carole, I was listening!! Ha! Ha!

---So Sara and all, I am hoping that All the peace in Iraq recently isn't due to Iranian non-interference. This is how the Jewish paper was reporting it as "All".

Laura Parker

Economics is an effective weapon of our enemies to use against all countries not just Africa. China is using this weapon effectively in America too and unless we in america wake up, our dear, dear friend in Iran (Iran's president) may not be wrong about a world without america (I hope not, but this is the reality of our country.) It looks to me like the chinese have learned from Islam too. Islam uses immigration tacits on europe and China uses this same tool on Africa. Lack of media attention helps too.

-- August 12, 2008 9:08 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Thanks. Next time I'll have more "ammo" if my sister brings up the subject again.

-- August 12, 2008 9:34 PM


Will wrote:

Ok. I'm new to this.
I just read all post started in Aug.1 to now.
Roger. or anyone.
Are we still looking good for Aug 15?
As far as going to forex at 30 to 80 cents?
Any update?
Thanks

-- August 12, 2008 9:59 PM


Will wrote:

Ok. I'm new to this.
I just read all post started in Aug.1 to now.
Roger. or anyone.
Are we still looking good for Aug 15?
As far as going to forex at 30 to 80 cents?
Any update?
Thanks

-- August 12, 2008 10:00 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Will,

Roger is in Iraq. He made it clear he may not be able to get back to us in a timely manner as the military maybe moving him from one place to another.

The August 15th date is just a rumor. We do not know if there is any truth in it. We on the board have heard many rumors like this one before. Therefore, do not be disappointed if this rumor does not come about. There are no updates on this information.

Laura Parker

-- August 12, 2008 10:24 PM


Will wrote:

Thank you Laura.
Not worry if it doesn't pan out.
Been on this investment for 3+yrs.
And just found this site by accident going through looking for info on M2 figure.
I've been trying to find out exactly how much M2 has been printed.
But I guess nobody knows for sure how much is out there.

-- August 12, 2008 10:28 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Will,

I don't think this board does either if by M2, you mean how much dinar is in circulation.

Laura Parker

-- August 12, 2008 11:20 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Georgia and what Russia has to gain from this military action.

Russian invasion rumor panics Georgians before evaporating
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis

August 11, 2008, 11:47 AM (GMT+02:00)

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili, under heavy Russian siege, claimed Monday night, Aug. 11, that the Russians had invaded the country and “cut it in half”. A full-scale retreat of Georgian troops was ordered from the border town of Gori to defend the capital Tbilisi 60 km away. In the event, Moscow denied seizing the town – or any plans for advancing on the Georgian capital - and turned the panic around to ridicule the pro-Western president.

Our sources believe Saakashvili had hoped that word of a Russian invasion of Georgia proper would finally stir the US and Europe into action to save his regime from being trampled by Russian tanks. Moscow had made it obvious that it would only hold its fire after his regime was gone and replaced by a Moscow-friendly administration.

The Russians sustained their three-day aerial bombardment of Gori, even after the town emptied of inhabitants and troops. This kept the rumor of an imminent Russian invasion alive in the world media for as long as necessary.

DEBKAfile’s Moscow sources report that Russian strategists believed that, by pulling the invasion scare carpet from under the president’s feet a few hours later, they could turn his campaign of panic and despair into a boomerang which would topple him without outside aid.

If not, the Russian president, prime minister and military chiefs would put their heads together again as they did on Monday and decide on their next move.

In the meantime, Russian troops entered Georgia Monday unopposed from another direction and captured the town of Senaki, 40 km from the northwestern breakaway province of Abkhazia.

This netted Moscow three advantages:

1. The Georgian outpost in the Kodori Gorge in northern Abkhazia, estimated at 3,000 strong, was cut off from its supply lines.

2. The Russians were in a position to force the outpost’s surrender, inflicting a lethal blow to Georgian military morale. Later Monday, having achieved this objective, the Russian defense ministry announced the withdrawal of its troops from Senaki after “eliminating the threat to south Abkhazia.”

3. The loss of the strategic Kodori Gorge should prove painful enough to deter the Georgian government from persisting in laying claim to Abkhazian territory for many years to come.

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 12:21 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Georgia.

Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 8, 2008

Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers, captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province to a military climax.

Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin threatened a “military response.”

Former Soviet Georgia called up its military reserves after Russian warplanes bombed its new positions in the renegade province.

In Moscow’s first response to the fall of Tskhinvali, president Dimitry Medvedev ordered the Russian army to prepare for a national emergency after calling the UN Security Council into emergency session early Friday.

Reinforcements were rushed to the Russian “peacekeeping force” present in the region to support the separatists.

Georgian tanks entered the capital after heavy overnight heavy aerial strikes, in which dozens of people were killed.

Lado Gurgenidze, Georgia's prime minister, said on Friday that Georgia will continue its military operation in South Ossetia until a "durable peace" is reached. "As soon as a durable peace takes hold we need to move forward with dialogue and peaceful negotiations."

DEBKAfile’s geopolitical experts note that on the surface level, the Russians are backing the separatists of S. Ossetia and neighboring Abkhazia as payback for the strengthening of American influence in tiny Georgia and its 4.5 million inhabitants. However, more immediately, the conflict has been sparked by the race for control over the pipelines carrying oil and gas out of the Caspian region.

The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.

Saakashvili need only back away from this plan for Moscow to ditch the two provinces’ revolt against Tbilisi. As long as he sticks to his guns, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will wage separatist wars.

DEBKAfile discloses Israel’s interest in the conflict from its exclusive military sources:

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.


In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”

This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 12:27 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Political news on Lebanon.

New Beirut government restores Syrian sway over Lebanon
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

July 17, 2008, 12:05 PM (GMT+02:00)


Emblem of the new Beirut government party, the pro-Syrian SSNP
The majority bloc headed by the incumbent Fouad Siniora holds 16 portfolios in the new Lebanese government, the opposition led by Hizballah - 11. President Michel Sleiman exercised his prerogative to name three ministers.

This lineup represents the national accord reached in Qatar earlier this year to end Lebanon’s political crisis. But the numbers, DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources note, add up to the radicalization of the new administration and its domination by two terrorist groups.

The pro-Iranian Hizballah-led opposition has gained veto power and Damascus has solidified its grip on Lebanon’s center of power - both through the Shiite-led bloc and through a first-time cabinet member, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party – the SSNP, which is dedicated to a Greater Syria.

Tehran and Damascus have succeeded in thrusting aside American and French bids for influence.

According to DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources, the shadowy SSNP was Syrian intelligence’s favorite terrorist arm in Lebanon for assassinations, attempted coups and bombings. Its operatives often worked with Hizballah (especially its military chief Imad Mughniyeh) and were believed implicated in the US embassy bombings in Beirut of 1982 and 1984.

The first known female suicide bomber in terrorist history was a SSNP operative who detonated a truck bomb which killed two Israel soldiers in 1985. Another member was accused of assassinating Lebanese president Beshar Gemayel in 1982.

The SSNP leader at the time, appointed by Damascus, was Ali Qanso, who now takes a seat in the new Lebanese government as minister of state.

The same Lebanese party also holds one seat in the Syrian parliament, having been granted legal standing by President Bashar Assad in 2005. The SSNP is now Syria’s largest party after the ruling Baath, while also represented in the Beirut government. It is thus faithful to its Greater Syria tenet which names Lebanon “Western Syria” and the Mediterranean the "Syrian Sea."

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 12:38 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Lebanon and those two mountains that Syrian and Iran have placed missiles on.

Iranian Early Warning Station, Anti-Air Base on Lebanese Peak

Iranian Early Warning Station, Anti-Air Base on Lebanese Peak

July 12, 2008


Mt. Sannine, Central Lebanon
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In the past few weeks, Hizballah at the behest of Iran and Syria has commandeered the 7,800-foot Mt. Sannine, a strategic asset capable of determining the outcome of the next war, as DEBKA-Net-Weekly 356 revealed.

Radar-guided missile positions and an early warning station have since been deployed on its summit, which are capable of monitoring and threatening US Sixth Fleet movements in the eastern Mediterranean and Israel Air Force flights.

This development was serious enough for Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak to repeat three times in as many days that the IDF is keeping a close watch on events in the northern front, especially the deepening ties between Syria and the Lebanese Hizballah. Barak travels to Washington this week.

Mt. Sannine, which dominates the roads connecting Beirut and Damascus, is one of the most prized strategic assets in the region. It was fought over for years by Syria and Israel, both seeking to control this ideal vantage point for an early warning station to command the eastern Mediterranean, the northern half of Israel and the Damascus region.

Its takeover on behalf of Tehran places Israeli security at a grave disadvantage. This topic is expected to figure large in the talks French president Nicolas Sarkozy holds with visiting Syrian ruler Bashar Assad this week.

DEBKAfile’s military sources reveal that military movements carried out in the last two weeks by Hizballah in conjunction with Tehran and Damascus can only be interpreted as preparations for war. Lebanese sources have been saying openly that Syria, Iran and Hizballah are now in position for a new Middle East confrontation.

This development was kept under tight wraps by prime minister Ehud Olmert, the defense and foreign ministers and the chief of staff. Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi.

Senior IDF officers told DEBKAfile: If the new military facts on the ground in Lebanon are allowed to stay in place, the next war Hizballah launches with Syria and Iran will find Israel’s ground, sea and air forces at a grave strategic disadvantage.

Yet there are no signs of Israel’s policy-makers budging.

Olmert and Livni took off for Paris Saturday night July 12 to attend the French president’s Mediterranean conference.

Our Middle East sources report that Sarkozy promised US president George W. Bush and Olmert to take up the belligerent movements in Lebanon with Assad and the Lebanese president Michel Sleiman. But political sources stress that the Olmert government’s custom of referring Israel’s military problems to external addresses is no longer working, neither for the Iranian nuclear issue nor the mounting threats posed by the Shiite Hizballah and Palestinian Hamas.

Iran and Syria have meanwhile acted on the political front to establish a radical government in Beirut dominated by two terrorist groups under their control, as DEBKAfile reported Friday, July 11. To read the article, click HERE

Laura Parker
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-- August 13, 2008 12:45 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Israel, USA and Iran nuclear situation.

US sources hint that by rejecting Iran sanctions, Moscow opens door to Israeli attack
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 7, 2008, 12:30 PM (GMT+02:00)


Russian UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin: Nyet to Iran sanctions
Sources in Washington commented Wednesday night, Aug. 6, that, while it is unlikely that Israel would attack Iran without US approval, this might change if tough sanctions were taken off the table. They reported Israel was building up its strike capabilities for an attack, had purchased 90 F-16I planes that can carry enough fuel to reach Iran and would receive another 11 by the end of next year. The Jewish state had also bought two new Dolphin submarines from Germany capable of firing nuclear-armed warheads, in addition to the three already in service with its navy.

According to foreign media, Israel is active inside Iranian territory.

DEBKAfile reports that this information was leaked by Washington sources, apparently to warn Moscow that by closing the door to sanctions, it was opening the door to an Israeli attack.

A few hours earlier by Russian UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin: “There have been no firm agreements or understandings or any kind of concerted work” against Iran over its nuclear program.” He took exception to US and British statements that a fourth round of UN Security Council sanctions was on the cards against Iran for its ambiguous response to the six-power incentives.

The sources disclosed that Israel, believing Tehran will have enough enriched uranium for a nuclear bomb by next year or 2010 at the latest, is worried about Washington’s softening on Iran and intention to open a US office in Tehran.

Washington sources report that Israeli is building up its strike capabilities and appears confident that a military attack would cripple Tehran’s nuclear program even if its installations were too widely scattered to be completely wiped out.

US, British, Russian, Chinese, French, German and European officials spoke by conference earlier in the day. The US and Britain said they had agreed to consider a possible fourth round of UN Security Council sanctions for lack of a clear yes or no from Tehran on the suspension of uranium enrichment in return for incentives.

This the Russian ambassador denied. He also said Moscow had set no deadline for Iran to respond to the offer made on June 19. “The negotiating track is open, there are contacts between the parties,” he said. While Russian would have preferred a clear response, “It’s more complicated than that as we all know.”

He suggested that further talks among the six powers would take place in September on the sidelines of the next UN General Assembly.

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 1:03 AM


Carole wrote:

I think it is becoming increasingly obvious that Russia will be involved in ANY AND ALL attacks on Iran or any other Middle East confrontation. As well as, Russia will be behind any first strike attack against Israel or the US.
One thing to learn from Russia's long history of invasions, world wide, is that they utilize the tactic of "surprise". Diplomacy, in their belief system, is idiotic. They only insist on diplomacy, when it does not involve their interests, or when used to defer more aggressive actions on the countries they "are in bed with" or protect. Russia, also is never held to accountability their military empowerment to countries that are causing causalities to our American soldiers.

We have given Russia a free pass on many issues over the last several years, and now the world is paying the price. Russia has secured their informidable share of oil. AND are now in a position to yea or ney the distribution of oil to the rest of the world ( caspian oil lines). This, I believe them pushes them back into the lead super power.

The next worst thing for the world to face is a coalition between China and Russia. BTW both of these nations would sponsor and support the annihilation of Israel. ( Gosh did Nixon ever miscalculate his vision of US/China relations).

Carole

-- August 13, 2008 5:33 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

I have read recent articles on Russia and it's proxies Iran, Syria etc., and the conflict over Georgia, with interest. The underlying theme is a fight over resources: oil. Without oil, Russia would not be a resurgent military power, willing to test American resolve. Without oil, Tehran would be just another third world failed state, unable to annoy or challenge American military might, or our friend, Israel.

I hope America gets serious about getting off foreign oil, soon.

American and European geo-political vulnerability in all these situations, is happening because America and Western Europe are very, very WEAK, when it comes to energy.

We rely on our enemies, like Russia and Tehran, to produce oil, to keep our economies going. This has been going on for decades, with both Republicans and Democrats in the White House....Strategically, Very very stupid, and weak, America.

Foreign oil dependency is the Achilles Heel of America. Do you remember what happened to Achilles, in that Greek fable? His mother, Thetis, forgot to dip his heel in the river, Styx, which left him vulnerable, at the heel, to death. And Paris poisoned the arrow that shot Achilles, leading to his death. Achilles took an arrow in the heel, and died. (and with the French constantly backstabbing America, like failing to support tough sanctions on Tehran, "Paris" could produce the poison arrow again)

It's time to get off foreign oil.

-- August 13, 2008 7:13 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Tim:

You are exactly right America must free itself from all foreign oil. We possess enough reserves to power our own needs yet refuse to use it. The greenies and the liberal left have a strangle hold on our domestic oil production. The majority of Americans favor off shore oil drilling; yet a democratic congress leaves for summer recess without addressing leglistation allowing domestic oil drilling. This sounds a lot like the Iraqi Parliment.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 8:30 AM


Carole wrote:

Tim,
You are absolutely right about us getting off oil dependency. It will take awhile but in the meantime, I do believe that Americans united to REALLY conserve will ( and has ) started to send the message. Waking up the US "middle class", gets the job done!

You know I have been thinking about something concerning the Islamic Radical regime....how much of their devotion and motivation is really to allah....or might it just be the human spirit of greed that propels their efforts?
The super religious part may be a smoke screen and the dogma they need to attract their followers to become suicide bombers, etc....

But is it the oil ($$$$) that is the REAL story?

I read or heard somewhere that it takes 170 machines ( that need oil) to produce a meal on your dinner table. The point was being made against conservation being an impotent effort. But I don't agree. The less we use in our cars just lossens up supplies for other entities to function.

You know several years ago, the Palm Springs area ( Cochella Valley) faced a real energy crisis, when they were eliminated from recipients of the Feather River project. I sort of lost contact with the happenings of the law suits and legislature that was attached to the issue. ( I think they lost all efforts). Well, anyway, some ingenious person or company started putting up wind machines. It looked ridiculous for awhile with few of these contraptions here and there. Now, they are on every open field and space, and they have taken on an artistic value of their own. I believe the energy company was PG&E. Well, you hear no more of the Feather River project having the future of that region in their control. That area has exploded in population, and over the last 20 years, most homes have real yards and not sand and rock as landscape. The golf courses are greener than ever! In fact, the area that was known for "dry heat" has actually had a climate change due to all the greenery and the water it takes to maintain them. Palm Springs actually has a humidity factor they never had before.

So this just proves that there is More than one way to skin the cat...effectively and FAST!

Carole

-- August 13, 2008 9:13 AM


Sara wrote:

Carole - I agree with you that the threat of Russia and the events in the area of the Persian Gulf are pressing matters of immediate concern. I just felt I needed to contribute my two bitts worth about China because the media does such a poor job of showing us the priorites concerning our safety. It is of note that Russia is not gearing up for a nuclear confrontation and war with the US to take control of the world.. as China is.. and so it bears mentioning, and keeping in mind, as they will come suddenly onto the world stage and take up all our time and resources one day - in a fight to the death. In spite of their friendly rhetoric now, I mean... and the innoculous way they are portrayed as merely "doing business" with the West for capitalist gain. The iron fist behind their strategy will become painfully obvious and catch us unawares, if we are not looking for it. Did I mention the Chinese are hardcore Communists and believe in world domination by their Communist ideology? Jihadis will seem like annoying flies in comparison to the upcoming plans which are forming. Their suicide bombing can do damage, but they cannot take over America directly with ground troops. The jihadis would not invade to conquer.. China can. Why do you think they are gearing up with so many troops and such firepower? Just for exercise?

My nightmare scenerio is where the terrorists and the Chinese team up, the first to use nukes on US soil in suicide attacks, the second to invade and take over the nation once it is on its knees from the jihadi terrorist attacks - perhaps by first calling itself a helpful "peacekeeping" force, which turns into a permanent occupation once their troops take control on US soil, in the wake of the nuclear terrorist tragedy.
Just to remind of what plans they are capable of:

Pentagon: China building military might
By Robert Burns
AP Military Writer
May 25, 2007

WASHINGTON --China is modernizing its military in ways that give it options for launching surprise attacks, potentially far from its borders, the Pentagon said Friday.

In an annual report to Congress, the Pentagon said the Chinese are acquiring better missiles, submarines and aircraft and should more fully explain the purpose of a military buildup that has led some to view China as a threat.

In a measured tone, the report offered a detailed look at China's military modernization. And it outlined areas of perceived ambiguity in Chinese strategy, including its declared policy of never starting a nuclear war; it concluded that Beijing may be exploring "new options" provided by its force modernization.

The Chinese Embassy did not immediately return messages Friday seeking comment. China has reacted angrily to previous Pentagon reports and has insisted that its multibillion-dollar military buildup is defensive.

The Pentagon said China's short-term focus remains the Taiwan Straits, where it continues to position more short-range ballistic missiles. But more broadly, the People's Liberation Army is pursuing a strategy that appears designed to give China a capability to fight wars farther from its shores and to thwart any U.S. advances.

It asserted, for example, that last year the new DF-31 long-range nuclear missile became available for use in a military emergency, even though it apparently is not fully integrated into China's strategic nuclear force. It said the DF-31, which has enough range to reach Alaska but is not the main Chinese missile targeting the United States, is likely to become fully operational in the near future, if it has not already.

"The expanding military capabilities of China's armed forces are a major factor in changing East Asian military balances," the report said. "Improvements in China's strategic capabilities have ramifications far beyond the Asia Pacific region."

A prominent theme in the Pentagon report is a perceived lack of transparency in Chinese military activities and plans. As it has in the past, the Pentagon said China's true defense spending is two or three times the publicly announced defense budget, which this year was put at the equivalent of $45 billion. The Pentagon report said actual defense spending, including funds from sources other than the defense budget, is $85 billion to $125 billion.

In a section titled "Is China Developing a Preemptive Strategy?" the report cited the fact that the People's Liberation Army has been acquiring long-endurance submarines, unmanned combat aircraft, additional precision-guided air-to-ground missiles, and long-distance military communications systems.

Chinese military training that focuses on no-notice, long-range air strikes "could also indicate planning for preemptive military options in advance of regional crises," the report said.

Attempting to capture the essence of China's strategy, the report quoted former supreme leader Deng Xiaoping's guidance, known as the 24-character maxim, which says in part, "hide our capacities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile."

"It suggests both a short-term desire to play down China's capabilities and avoid confrontation, and a long-term strategy to build up China's power to maximize options for the future," the Pentagon report said.

Rodman said he believes there is reason for concern that China's long-range aim is to "revise the existing balance of power in the world, but they are patient and they are just doing this quietly; they think long term."

Rodman added that because U.S. officials are closely monitoring China's growing military strength and sophistication, "We can handle this, as part of our overall relationship, and we're not asleep at maintaining our own capability."

The Pentagon highlighted its concern about Beijing's anti-satellite test in which a missile was used to destroy one of China's old weather satellites in low-Earth polar orbit; the January test was China's first.

"The test put at risk the assets of all space-faring nations and posed dangers to human space flight due to the creation of an unprecedented amount of debris," the report said, adding that this is an important expansion of China's pursuit of weaponry and strategies that are designed to deny U.S. forces access to areas in Asia.

Rodman said the Bush administration knew in advance that China planned to conduct the January test but it chose not to address it with the Chinese because U.S. officials were convinced Beijing would go ahead with it regardless.

China has purchased UHF-band satellite communications jammers and is developing other technologies and concepts for weapons with anti-satellite missions, the report said. It also is improving its ability to identify and track satellites, "a prerequisite for effective, precise physical attacks," the report added.

The report was presented to Congress on Friday, just days before Defense Secretary Robert Gates travels to Singapore to address an international conference on Asian security issues, where China is likely to be a key topic.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/25/pentagon_worries_about_china_space_test/

-- August 13, 2008 9:46 AM


Sara wrote:

Hopefully the McCain campaign won't force them to take it down.

Obama Wins Gold at the Olympics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp7GK3bJHEA

-- August 13, 2008 11:22 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob N,

We agree America must get off foreign oil. I agree it starts with developing the offshore oil, and oil in Alaska.

I believe America must go must further than that, even. America must get off oil, period.

Oil, which is just a byproduct of processes in nature, is difficult to come by. Scientists are starting to seriously investigate ways to produce oil-like substances, using human ingenuity, rather than relying on nature.

There will be many solutions to the energy crisis. Wouldn't it be nice to have a car that relied on electricity, and ran for 500 miles between charges, and cost much less to run than a gas car? I believe that is coming, eventually.

I believe a great benefit to the current oil crisis will be that there will be an explosion of scientific creativity that will end the world's dependency on oil from nature.

This will strengthen America, and weaken her enemies.

-- August 13, 2008 11:23 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Tim:

You and I disagree at so many levels. The "oil crisis" you speak of is manufactured in order to drive up cost. Recently, Exxon/Mobile reported exponential profits. There is no shortage of oil.

Electric cars and natural gas cars are not in production because the populace has not demanded them. The Hybrids currently offered in the marketplace are twice as expensive as a car with an internal cumbustion engine.

I am beginng to build a 454 V8 for my pick up truck. The truck will not get good gas mileage but it will meet emission standards. I will use premimum gas with an octane booster in it. I plan to drive it on the street. I will take my internal cumbustion engine over a hybrid, electric, or hydrogen powered car any day.

Cheers,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 11:49 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Just to remind:

Because of China's 1-child policy, and an immoral Chinese habit of aborting unborn females, there will be tens-of-millions of extra males, in China, in the next few decades. Extra males are expendable. Extra males will mean fierce competition for available women. Extra males will look for ways to impress females.

Males are genetically wired for a fight or flight response, as you pointed out. That means they would be easy to manipulate by Chinese leaders, eager to extend their power, by invading another country.

And, as you point out, China is extremely ambitious for power, and is spending money on it's military, like it's going out of style. So, you are right to worry about China, IMHO.

If anyone can challenge America for world dominance, it's China.

-- August 13, 2008 11:51 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob,

Time will tell if I am right, or I am wrong, about an oil shortage. I don't think I'll convince you. But do this for me: Every 5 years, for the next 20 years, remember this conversation. Ask yourself what the price of oil is. If it continues to be outrageous, for the next 20 years, then I'd say Tim Bitts was right. If oil eventually goes down in price, then Tim Bitts was wrong. I'm happy to accept the judgement of time.

But you say that oil is high because the shortage is manufactured? Well, if it is manufactured, who is manufacturing it? American oil companies? I doubt it. Thirty years ago, private oil companies controlled 80% of the world's oil. Governments controlled 20%.

Now, the figures are reversed. Oil was nationalized by Russia, Venuzuela, Saudi Arabia, and all the big oil producers. This is fact, not opinion, and can be checked. Governments around the world, mostly hostile to America, now control about 80-90% of the world's oil. Private oil companies, like Exxon, now control only 10-20% of the world's oil. (depending on whose facts you listen to.)

So my point is, who is controlling the world's oil? Not America. Who is controlling the price of oil? Not America. Not American oil companies. I don't believe American oil companies are the bad guys here. I have yet to have anyone prove to me that American oil companies are the bad guys here.

So, who's the bad guy here, Rob? Who's rigging the game?

So who do I think is the bad guy? IMHO, Mostly countries hostile to America, like Russia and OPEC and Venuzuela, since they are the ones that control most of the world's oil.

So, in looking for a villain, I see OPEC. I see Putin. Who do you see?

And if anyone is rigging the game, like you say, then America has been played for, a sucker. Hundreds of billions of dollars are flowing, every year, to countries that often hate America.

That has to stop.

That's totally unacceptable.

And if the big oil companies, and private American investors are causing the price of oil to rise, by rigging the game somehow, then it means that American oil executives are traitors to their own countries, who are rigging the game against their own country, with the result of hundreds of billions flowing to America's enemies, due to the higher price of oil. All for the sake of their own petty greed. If American business leaders are really doing this to their own country, and doing this to millions of ordinary consumers, like you, they should be hanged by the neck until dead, IMHO.

And if there is another major terrorist attack on the United States, just remember where the countries that produce terrorists get their money from: your wallet.

So, if more oil is drilled, and if you are right, and there is lots of oil around, Rob, then great, I'd be very happy to be wrong. So lets start drilling. For now, OPEC and the Russians have the American consumer over the barrel. If you are right, and the price of oil is artificially high, remember that, every time someone takes your hard-earned money from you, when you fill up your truck, at the gas pump.

But if I am right, America is screwed in the long run, because the price will stay high, and America will continue to bleed money, to pay for oil.

Time will tell.

But whether you are right, or I am right, about how much oil is in the world, I think we can both agree, just to be safe, it is best to spend a lot of money, researching alternatives to oil, to give American consumers a choice.

As to hybrids and electric cars, you are right, Rob. They are not in production because the public has not demanded them. I agree with you. You are 100% right about that. For now.

But in the future: If you are right, and the price of oil drops in the future, you will continue to be right.

However, if I am right, and the price of oil, over the next 20 years stays high, and gets higher, then the public will demand, and get, more hybrids, and electric cars.

Right now, there is a 3 month waiting list for the Toyota Prius, with the high demand due to people realizing it gets outstanding gas mileage, and due to the high price of gas.

If you are right, and oil goes down in price, hybrids will prove to be just a fad. If I am right, and the price of gas stays high, then in 15 years, I would guess that half the cars on the road will be hybrids.

Again, time will tell, and if you don't see lots of hybrids on the road in 10 years, you will know, you were right, and I was wrong. If there are lots of hybrids on the road in ten years, then I was right, you were wrong.

Time will tell.

I bought my first sports car many years ago, in the early 1980s, a Corvette. Beautiful, beautiful lines on that car, and great performance. The first time I saw it, I just stared at it for 10 minutes, admiring the lines. A real American classic. And someday, I hope to own a Tesla Roadster. They are still being developed, getting the kinks out, but the prototype is 100% electric, goes 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, gets 256 mpg equivalent, and costs 2 cents a mile to run. I'd be happy to drag race this car against any gas car.

Again, with electric cars, if I am right, and they become economical, you will see lots of them on the road, replacing obsolete, stinky, noisy, costly gas motors, in 10-15 years.

When the original gas motors came in, it took decades to replace the horse and buggy, and to get where everyone had one. I don't think replacing gas motors will take that long.

I don't think any thing I will say will convince you. But most people reading this blog are interested in energy, and will remember my remarks. And in 10 years, will either say: Rob was right, or Tim was right.

Time will tell.

-- August 13, 2008 12:53 PM


Sara wrote:

This one is not Dinar, but I think it will interest the board, and when Roger gets to reading the blog, it should interest him, too. :)

Recently, there was a lot of buzz created by an article titled, "Warp Drive Engine Would Travel Faster Than Light", summarized below, but I want to draw your attention to the fact that it states that space has moved faster than light before, quote:

The fabric of space has moved faster than light before, says Cleaver, right after the Big Bang, when the universe expanded faster than the speed of light. "We're recreating the inflationary period of the universe behind the ship," said Cleaver. While the theory rests on relatively firm ground, the next question is how do you expand space behind the ship and contract it in front of the ship? (end quote)
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/07/28/warp-speed-engine.html

As I quoted before on this site from a NASA document, they admit that the "big bang" happened everywhere at the same time, not from one tiny dot of matter in one location. AND, this says that it moved faster than light during this "inflationary period." These are facts accepted by the science community. For those who believe in an Intelligent Designer, this explains a lot.

You see, if it took almost no time for the "big bang" to happen, and that light 50 billion light years away got there in the "inflationary period" when the universe "expanded faster than the speed of light" then that means.. it didn't take 50 BILLION years for that light to get from there to us. So the universe isn't that old. That is a measurement of DISTANCE but not time - to say that star is 50 billion light years away. It got put there, by the Big Bang, in an inflationary period which exceeded the time measurement of a light year. It got there FAST, in days, not billions of years, I contend. This puts it into the creation week perfectly and the truth can finally be shown to have known scientific validity.

When secular scientists say that the universe is BILLIONS of years old, they are using this measurement of light and distance as TIME. They measure from that star (which is 50 billion light years away) to earth. Here, they have finally admitted to those 85% of us on planet earth who believe in an Intelligent Designer, that their timescale is wrong, and that things did indeed "explode" everywhere at once and during an "inflationary period" it acted like a warp drive, moving the cosmos at astronomical speed. So this means the star is that far away, but that is not a measurement of TIME but distance. It got there in the "inflationary period" of time, not in 50 billion years of TIME. This proves that that star got that far from us very quickly and so it is not necessarily any older than our planet is, and it did not take 50 billion years for light to reach us from there due to the inflationary expansion "skidding" the light to us (and the entire cosmos) very evenly and very quickly. What other processes were speeded up during this time? The cooling and forming of stars and elements? The formation of planetary motion? How long did it really take?

While their models of what happened work fine, their TIME SCALE is wrong. They are inserting long periods of time into the cosmos which were not necessary for its formation or for the formation of the light coming from there to here. This puts it back into the court of those who believe in an Intelligent Designer or Creator. SCIENCE is finally catching up with the Truth.

Sara.

-- August 13, 2008 2:57 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Short term prediction:

Some people on this board are predicting America might soon be at war with Iran.

On the condition that the board's prediction turns out to be true, I will make 2 additional predictions:

1-the price of oil will reach $200 a barrel.

2-if the war lasts more than two years, the price of oil will stay over $180 dollars a barrel, and America will suffer a very serious recession, as a result of this.

-- August 13, 2008 4:36 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Joke of the day:

Micah was a poor, but devout Jewish man, who studied the Torah every day. (first 5 books of the Bible) He knew it well. He read one day, that to God, 1 million years was like 1 day. So, he prayed one day, and pleaded with God, for 1 dollar.

An angel of the Lord delivered God's reply:

"Sure, in 1 day!"

-- August 13, 2008 4:44 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Official urges national banks to engage in investment activities

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Wednesday , 13 /08 /2008 Time 9:08:30




BAGHDAD, Aug. 12 (VOI) – The executive director of the Union of Iraqi Banks on Tuesday called on national banks to carefully consider the new policies that they are supposed to adopt in dealing with their financial surplus.

"It is necessary to carefully consider the new challenges that force banks to develop more flexible programs in determining loan interests, in addition to initiatives to boost investment…," Abdelaziz Hassoun told Aswat al-Iraq- Voices of Iraq- (VOI).

Hassoun said that he expects the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) to give clear and detailed instructions "that will provide guidelines for private banks on how to adopt the new policies, which economists believe will help resume production and boost economy."
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:18 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Electoral registration offices receive million voters countrywide

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Baghdad, 13 August 2008 (Voices of Iraq)
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Electoral registration offices in Iraq have witnessed an increased turnout throughout the past few days, the Independent Commission for Elections said on Wednesday.

"More than one million voters have been to the offices to ensure that their names have been registered, to add new voters, delete those who have passed away or to register immigrants," according to a statement released by the commission and received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI), quoting Judge Qassem al-Abboudi, the head of the commission's electoral department.

"This reflects citizens' growing interest in the registration process, which guarantees their right to vote.

The number of those who have been registered in the first few weeks did not exceed 300,000, but 830,000 others have checked their names in the record books…," Abboudi explained.

In mid-July, the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) said that the commission had opened 563 centers to update voters' lists in all over the country.

The elections are scheduled to take place in October. In late May, the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, revealed his government's intention to change the date of the elections, citing reasons related to the protection of voters and the integrity of elections.

On July 22, the Iraqi Parliament, with the approval of 127 deputies out of 140 who attended the session, passed the law on provincial council elections, which includes an article postponing the elections in the city of Kirkuk.

Lawmakers from the KC had withdrawn from the session in protest against Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani's decision to have a secret balloting over article 24 of the law, pertaining to the status of Kirkuk. Balloting over all the other paragraphs of the law, however, was open.

The Presidential Board, with the unanimity of President Jalal Talabani and his two deputies Adel Abdelmahdi and Tareq al-Hashimi, rejected the law in a rapid reaction one day after the Iraqi Parliament passed it during a session that raised hue and cry over its constitutionality.

The law drew angry reactions from the Kurds, who considered the way the law was passed as a "twisting of the constitution," threatening to use the right of veto, granted by the Iraqi constitution for the Presidential Board, headed by President Talabani, a Kurd, to reject the law and return it to the Parliament for debate.

The law on provincial council elections, which is seen as supplementary to the law on regions and non-regional provinces, which was approved by the Parliament in February, has sparked heated controversy among political blocs.

The law specifies the system of government in Iraq, and if applied, a federal system may be established in the country with three separate regions, a call echoed by some Iraqi political parties.

The draft law on provincial council elections proposes an open slate system, which gives voters influence on the position of the candidates placed on the party list and allows an individual voting system.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:24 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Ends Talks With Anadarko Grp Over Oil Deals-Source

Iraq has terminated negotiations with an Anadarko Petroleum Corp. (APC)-led consortium for a short-term oil service contract, Iraqi oil industry sources said Tuesday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:29 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

FACTBOX: Regional ties with Iraq start to grow
Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:18pm EDT

(Reuters) - Jordan's King Abdullah on Monday became the first Arab leader to visit Iraq since Saddam Hussein's fall in 2003, meeting Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in Baghdad.

Violence in Iraq is at a four-year low and countries in the region, especially Sunni Arab states like Jordan, are starting to re-engage with the Shi'ite-led government in Baghdad.

Following is a factbox on the region's relations with Iraq:

BAHRAIN - In June, Bahrain said it would set up a new embassy in Baghdad and was selecting an ambassador.

EGYPT - Egypt plans to send a team to Iraq to assess the security situation "within months" with a view to possibly returning an ambassador. Egypt's last envoy was kidnapped and killed shortly after arriving in 2005.

IRAN - Non-Arab Shi'ite Iran has strong ties with Iraq at many levels. Iran has a fully functioning embassy in Baghdad and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made a high-profile trip to Baghdad in March. Iran has links to key Shi'ite parties and politicians in Iraq. Many prominent Iraqi Shi'ites lived in exile in Iran during Saddam Hussein's rule.

JORDAN - Jordan's King Abdullah visited Baghdad on Monday and met Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to discuss improving security conditions in Iraq. Jordan recently named an ambassador to Baghdad, though it is unclear when he will take up the post. A truck bomb killed 17 people outside Jordan's embassy in Baghdad in August 2003.

KUWAIT - Many Kuwaitis remain bitter about Saddam's 1990 invasion of their country. The state news agency last month named Ali al-Mumin as the new ambassador to Iraq without saying when he would take up his post. Kuwait hosted a regional meeting on stabilizing Iraq in April, a sign of improving ties.

SAUDI ARABIA - Oil powerhouse Saudi Arabia said last year it would open an embassy in Iraq but it has not yet upgraded ties or named an ambassador.

SYRIA - The governments of Iraq and Syria have a history of animosity since rival factions of the Baath Party took power in the two countries in the 1960s. Their embassies were shut and reopened only last year after Syria sent its foreign minister to Iraq. No ambassadors have been named and ties remain tense over accusations Syria does not do enough to stop militants crossing into Iraq.

TURKEY - Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan visited Iraq in July, which could signal Ankara will upgrade its political ties. Relations have often been dominated by the presence of PKK Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq who launch attacks on Turkey.

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - The UAE last month appointed Abdullah Ibrahim al-Shehhi, its envoy to India, as ambassador to Iraq. The UAE withdrew its top envoy in 2006 after a diplomat was kidnapped and held for nearly two weeks by militants.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:35 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

U.N. pledges to expand in Iraq, 5 years after blast
Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:03pm EDT

By Missy Ryan

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The United Nations pledged on Wednesday to hasten its cautious steps in helping Iraq rebuild, five years after a devastating bomb pushed it to pull foreign staff out of the country.

U.N. and Iraqi officials gathered at U.N. headquarters in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone for a somber ceremony commemorating the 22 people who died when a truck bomb struck U.N. offices in a Baghdad hotel on August 19, 2003.

It was a grim turning point in the first months after the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, prompting the U.N. to withdraw most foreign staff and foreshadowing the bloodshed that quickly took hold across Iraq.

"There are moments when we wonder whether all this was worth it or not," U.N. special representative Staffan de Mistura said.

"What we are doing at the moment is sending a signal that the U.N. is back. The U.N. is back to stay. The U.N. is back to have its footprint increasing, its activities increasing."

U.N. officials say there are about 350 international civilian and military staff members across the country, and that the number of civilian foreign staff members increased by 30 percent over the last year.

Iraqi Planning Minister Ali Baban and David Shearer, De Mistura's deputy, signed a two-year pact governing the U.N.'s humanitarian, reconstruction and development activities in Iraq.

The new U.N. strategy targets what it called a "worsening human rights situation and an overall deterioration of services, infrastructure and shelter", among other challenges.

The needs are great. Violence has driven some 4.5 million Iraqis to flee their homes to other parts of Iraq or to neighboring countries.

Within Iraq, unemployment is sky-high. About half of the rural population lacks proper access to drinking water. Sewage flows into the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. More than 3,000 primary schools and some 1.27 million new homes are needed.

CAUTIOUS STEPS

But officials said the new strategy does not foresee a quick ramping up of foreign staff levels in Iraq past current levels, due mainly to continuing security precautions, or in U.N. spending, which stands at about $350 million a year.

They say their focus has shifted from bricks-and-mortar projects, such as building schools, to training and advising Iraqi ministries and officials.

With violence at four-year lows across Iraq, the United Nations is also venturing further into the tempestuous world of Iraqi politics.

U.N. officials sought to broker a compromise this month to an impasse in parliament over plans for a provincial elections law needed to hold the anticipated polls this year.

The U.N. proposal ultimately failed to end the deadlock over the fate of the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, a feud which has stoked tensions with Iraq's minority Kurds.

The U.N. voice in Iraq may grow as that of the United States becomes less dominant.

U.S. and Iraqi officials are negotiating an agreement that will outline the U.S. presence in Iraq after its mandate expires in December, and Iraqi officials have said they want U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by 2010.

"In coming years, the political role of the United Nations in Iraq will grow," Minister Baban said.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:39 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

August 12th, 2008
Iraqi politics riven by suspicion and intrigue

Posted by: Waleed Ibrahim
Tags: Global News

“Kirkuk will never be part of Kurdistan, even if the blood
comes up to our knees!” a lawmaker hissed as he passed a group
of reporters outside parliament.

Welcome to Iraqi politics, where even the most basic issues
are debated in a climate of hot-headed suspicion and intrigue,
and threats of violence are never far from the surface.

Iraq is a much safer place than it was a year ago. But if the deep mistrust on display during four days of ultimately futile bargaining in parliament last week is anything to go by, my country’s fragile democracy has a long way to go.

Parliamentarians were trying to pass a new elections law paving the way for the first provincial voting in Iraq since 2005, a task that might be considered straightforward but in Iraq saw lawmakers openly brandish threats of a bloodbath.

The sticking point was how elections should be held in the northern oil-rich city of Kirkuk, where rival ethnic claims have threatened to explode since Saddam Hussein was toppled in 2003.

Each day lawmakers arrived, unsure about proceedings. What proposals would be on the table? Would there be a quorum for a vote? Would there be a volte face by one camp, suspicious their rivals might have stolen a march — but not quite knowing how?

Iraq’s Kurds regard Kirkuk as their ancestral capital and want it to be folded into their autonomous region of Kurdistan. This idea is completely rejected by Arabs and Turkmen who also live in a city whose oil provides a fifth of Iraq’s revenues.

On one side stood the Kurds, often getting a sympathetic hearing from two major Shi’ite parties, Dawa and SIIC. On the other were all the other blocs led by the Sunni Islamic Party along with followers of Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

The rifts start at the top. Parliament’s speaker is a Sunni, opposed to Kirkuk becoming part of Kurdistan. His two deputies, a Shi’ite and a Kurd, are firmly in the rival camp.

A Shi’ite lawmaker accused Sunnis of following a “foreign Arab agenda”. A Sunni accused the Shi’ites of pursuing a “foreign Iranian agenda”. Kurds branded their opponents “the remaining Baathists” — Saddam’s party that ruled through fear.

It was never clear when a parliamentary session would start. Often deputies only managed to keep them going for a few minutes before they broke down. Most of the time lawmakers could not even agree to enter the chamber, meaning no quorum.

If one camp accepted a proposal, the other would reject it. If the second camp shifted its stance in favour, the first would then perform a U-turn — suspicious their rivals had spotted something in it that would give them an edge.

Officials from the United Nations Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI), the U.S. embassy and the British ambassador — desperate to cajole the Iraqis into striking a deal — kept a vigil at parliament’s doors throughout.

“The labour is continuous … but all is in vain,” laughed Shi’ite deputy speaker Khalid al-Attiyah.

Diplomats laboured at behind-the-scenes talks from early in the morning until late at night. Even U.S. President George W. Bush worked the phones, pushing party leaders for a deal. All to no avail. Parliament wrapped up for a break last week with no proposals on the table, no consensus — and no vote — just a pledge to revisit the issue in September.

“You Iraqis are very difficult,” said a UNAMI spokesman.

As an Iraqi reporter covering my country for Reuters since April 2003, I’ve seen this drama play out countless times, as lawmakers fashioned a new Iraq even as an insurgency raged outside the fortified Green Zone where parliament sits.

But my sense is that there has been no progress at all in building trust between rival political groups, with parties trapped in a cycle of obstruction and recrimination.

No doubt Kirkuk will be the issue overshadowing Iraq’s political process for some time. The fear is that it may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, triggering yet another conflict, and bloodshed up to our knees.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 5:43 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Tim:

Frankly, the remarks made on this blog will mean nothing in 10 years and our association will be of no consequence. All markets are cyclical in the 1970's a claimed oil shortage occured and in the 1980's oil prices came down and virtually crashed I believe in 1987 (please do not hold me to the year, I am working off of my memory).

Our current oil cycle does bring a higher price for oil. That is it, we are on the high side of the cycle. I agree since we choose to buy foreign oil and not use our own we are somewhat held hostage by the Anti-American regimes accross the world. We are also held hostage by the oil majors.

In the 1909 the U.S. government intervened and broke up standard oil. Look at these figures: The total net earnings from 1882 to 1906 [for Standard Oil]amounted to $838,783,800,. My point is because America (at the influence of the greenies and liberal left)has failed to produce its own oil we now find ourselves on the high side of the cycle. Exxon Mobile and the other oil majors continue to profit while the American people suffer because of policies not in the best interest of our country.

Tim, I think America is being held hostage in one form or another by OPEC, the liberal left, and the direction towards Globalization. The country I live in and love is a far cry from what our founding fathers intended. Washington, Adams, and Hamilton would not recognize the country they fought and sacrificed for.

In the meantime, while I see the America of today a poor reflection of its history I must continue to listen to greenies and liberal left wing propaganda machines like you blowing hard to advance an agenda in order to destroy this country and its democratic principles.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 13, 2008 6:03 PM


Sara wrote:

The War in Iraq Is Over. What Next?
8-13-2008

The war I witnessed for more than five years in Iraq is over. In July, there were five American fatalities in Iraq, the lowest since the war began in March 2003. In Mosul recently, I chatted with shopkeepers on the same corner where last January a Humvee was blown apart in front of me. In the Baghdad district of Ghazilia -- where last January snipers controlled streets awash in human waste -- I saw clean streets and soccer games. In Basra, the local British colonel was dining at a restaurant in the center of the bustling city.

For the first time in 15 trips across the country, I didn't hear one shot or a single blast from a roadside bomb. In Anbar Province, scene of the fiercest fighting during the war, the tribal sheiks insisted to Barack Obama on his recent visit that the U.S. Marines had to stay because they were the most trusted force.

The war turned around in late 2006 because American troops partnered with Iraqi forces and tribal auxiliaries to protect the population. Feeling safe, the population informed on the militias and terrorists living among them. Then, in the spring of 2008, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki attacked the Mahdi militia of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr that controlled Basra and half of Baghdad. The militia crumbled under pressure from Iraqi soldiers backed by coalition intelligence and air assets.

The threat in Iraq has changed from a full-scale insurgency into an antiterror campaign. Al Qaeda in Iraq is entrenched in northern Mosul, where it may take 18 months to completely defeat them. By employing what he calls his "Anaconda Strategy," Gen. David Petraeus is squeezing the life out of al Qaeda in Iraq. The mafia-style militia of Sadr has been splintered.

The competition among Iraqi politicians has shifted from violence to politics, albeit yielding a track record as poor as that of our own Congress. After failing for two years to deliver basic services, both Shiite and Sunni politicians are stalling on legislation to hold provincial elections because many of them will be defeated. While irritating, these political games have not blocked U.S. gains.

Americans should praise rather than slight our military's achievements. Civil war has been averted. The Iraqi army has thrown the militia out of the port of Um Qasar, thus ensuring stable oil exports. Al Qaeda fought to make Iraq its base in the Arab Middle East. Instead, it is being hunted down.

Iran has emerged as the major threat to stability in Iraq. While its goal was to control a weak Iraq after the American army was driven out, Tehran overplayed its hand. Iran supplied the rockets to attack Iraqi politicians in Baghdad in April and supported Sadr's militia. But hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Shiites died fighting Iranians in the '80s, and those memories are still fresh. In southern Maysan Province, American and Iraqi units are waiting to hunt down terrorists returning from Iranian training camps. Iraq, backed by some American forces in remote desert bases, is poised to emerge as a regional counterweight to Iran.

Yet the progress in Iraq is most threatened by a political promise in the U.S. to remove all American combat brigades, against the advice of our military commanders. Iraqi volunteers working for a nonsectarian political party in Baghdad asked me, "Is America giving up its goals?" It's an unsettling question.

With victory in sight, why would we quit? The steady -- but not total -- withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq is freeing up forces to fight in Afghanistan. But Afghanistan is not the central front in the war on terror. Al Qaeda is hiding in Pakistan, a nation we are not going to invade.

The Iraqis aren't yet confident enough to stand entirely on their own; al Qaeda's savagery still imposes too much fear, while Iran is training terrorists next door. In counterinsurgency, the people must know they are protected. Gen. Petraeus has proven that intimidation can be defeated by placing American soldiers among the population. Wars are won by confidence, but also by procedures that take time to mature; and the Iraqi offensive against Sadr's militia in Basra last April revealed an atrocious Iraqi command and control system.

We are withdrawing as conditions permit. For instance, in the infamous Triangle of Death south of Baghdad, Col. Dominic Caraccilo has spread his rifle companies across 22 police precincts. Over the next year, he plans to pull out two of every three companies, leaving the population protected by Iraqi forces, backed by a thin screen of American soldiers.

If implemented on a countrywide scale, this model would reduce the American presence from 15 to five brigades over the next few years. They can be comprised of artillerymen, motor transport and civil affairs as well as infantrymen. By calling these residual forces "Transition Teams," we can remove the political argument in the U.S. about the exact number of combat brigades, and allow our commanders flexibility in adjusting force levels. This change of names rather than of missions is a way to save face and bring Americans closer together.

The problem is not American force levels in Iraq. It is divisiveness at home. While our military has adapted, our society has disconnected from its martial values. I was standing beside an Iraqi colonel one day in war-torn Fallujah when a tough Marine patrol walked by. "You Americans," he said, "are the strongest tribe."

But we cast aspersions on ourselves. The success of our military should not be begrudged to gain transitory political advantage.

In 1991, our nation held a parade after our military liberated Kuwait. Over the course of more than five hard years, our troops have brought stability and freedom to 25 million Iraqis, while crushing al Qaeda in Iraq. Regardless of disagreement about initiating the war back in 2003, Americans should unite to applaud the success of our troops in 2008.

A stable Iraq keeps faith with the million American soldiers who fought there, sets back Iran's aggression, and makes our enemies in Afghanistan and elsewhere fear us. It's time we stopped debating about yesterday and displayed national pride in our soldiers.

By Bing West
Wall Street Journal

Mr. West is a former assistant secretary of defense and combat Marine. His third book on the Iraq war, "The Strongest Tribe: War, Politics and the Endgame in Iraq," is out today from Random House.

http://www.aina.org/news/20080813123617.htm

-- August 13, 2008 6:21 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob,

I agree with you, in part, that what is said on this blog will mean nothing in 10 years. However, you have stuck with this investment for several years, and if memory serves me, a couple of years ago, you said you would stay at this investment for 10 years, if need be.

That tell me two things: You are very tenacious, which I respect.

And it tells me you are interested and curious about problems regarding oil, because that is one of the big things this blog is about.

You strike me as a bright fellow, Rob.

So, from all that, I'm guessing that you will remain interested in the problems regarding oil, you will remember this for a long time, and some day in the distant future, after the RV, after you are wealthy and retired in luxurious accommadation of your choice, you will look around at the world, and say either, "I was right" or you will say, "I guess that guy in the chat room was right."

I know I won't forget this conversation.

I will continue to bellow, for an energy policy that does not end up with hundreds of billions going to ultra-rich Saudi families like the Bin Ladens, and moves toward a world that doesn't stink, like Los Angeles, or Toronto, or even worse, Beijing, where you can cut the air with a knife. If that makes me a greenie, I'm happy to be one.

I'm happy that you don't agree with me, because diversity of opinion is the spice of life, and I like people with backbone, and well thought out opinions, whatever they are. People who believe different things should talk to each other more. That's a good thing. I don't agree with you, but I respect you, and your opinion.

In the mean time, I will continue to read your posts, and the information you bring to this site, which is invaluable. Thanks.

Cheers,
T. Bitts

-- August 13, 2008 6:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks for your posts and opinions, Rob N and timbitts. I appreciate your graciousness, timbitts... a worthy example to follow when someone disagrees with you, I will try to follow it, thank you. :)

I was thinking on Obama and read this and thought it good and worthwhile repeating:

==

Obama will lose
By Jack Ward
MichNews.com
Aug 5, 2008

This presidential election should be a slam dunk for the Democrat presidential candidate regardless of the candidate. The blame for mistakes in Iraq, the slumping economy, immigration chaos, and the rise of gasoline prices have been heaped on President Bush. Fair or not, these issues are always blamed on the sitting administration. The Democrats have tried to paint John McCain as a continuation of administration policies. White House insiders probably laugh at the suggestion that McCain has been a reliable ally of the administration. But I digress. Despite all the factors in favor of any Democrat candidate, I predict that Barack Obama will lose the presidential election. There are many reasons why I think Obama will lose but here are a few that I believe will tilt the election.

Obama has all the momentum that a fawning press and left leaning acolytes can provide. The public has suffered through the swooning groupies and pundits claiming to have chills running up their leg when Obama spoke. Now we are within the last 100 days and the voters will start to pay attention to the seriousness of the election. There won’t be any more swooning or claims of chills running up legs, and without that hype, the Obama campaign will be forced to depend on substance – which he has not shown.

The Democrats had a dozen or more candidates that began the nomination process. Without a doubt, the person with the least qualifications was Barack Obama. Pick any of the potential Democrat candidates and every one of them had more qualifications than Obama. Obama accomplished nothing in his short time in the Illinois Senate and nothing in the U.S. Senate in the 140 days before he started his presidential election bid. Hillary pointed to Obama’s lack of experience several times but the message never resonated. Obama’s claim to fame was his time as a ‘community organizer’. According to The Nation magazine, “Obama worked in the organizing tradition of (noted leftist) Saul Alinsky…”. If working as a ‘community organizer’ was a resume enhancer for president, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been elected president. But Obama was the better orator and mesmerized the Democrat primary voters. He made vacuous promises of change to the fawning masses, and he sounded good doing it. But without a teleprompter and a prepared speech he is less than impressive.

Obama has promised change. But his supporters never realized that he meant change in policy positions. His flip flops make a fish out of water look like a statue. Like John Kerry, Obama was against something before he was for it. For example: campaign financing, drilling offshore, troop withdrawal from Iraq, NAFTA, wiretaps, banning handguns, social security reform and campaign debates.

As the election draws near I believe that there will be ‘Candidate Remorse’ within the Democrat electorate. The electorate will recognize that Obama is a little more than a glib empty suit and that even Hillary would have been a better candidate to represent the Democrats. Hillary defeated Obama in the states that will be needed to become president. Obama won lesser states and amassed a delegate lead through the tainted caucus process. Now, Democratic Party insiders recognize the flaws in the caucus process. But the damage is done and Obama will be their candidate. ‘Candidate Remorse’ could materialize in low turnout for Obama or vote for a third party candidate.

You can’t blame someone for the actions of people they know or associate with, but you can question someone’s judgment for associating with them. Throughout his life Obama has sought out and associated with dubious characters. Like known terrorists, Weather Underground members (Ayres and Dohrn), crazy racist preachers (Wright and Pfleger), convicted criminals (Rezko), and known Socialists (Davis). Just imagine the field day the media would have if John McCain was buddies with the Unibomber, Timothy McVeigh, and Angela Davis. The media has given Obama a free ride for his associations, but I doubt if the people will.

In the long run the election is Obama’s to lose and I think he will lose.

- by Jack Ward

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_20883.shtml

-- August 13, 2008 8:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Followed closely by this one:

===

7 worrisome signs for Obama
Glenn Thrush Mon Aug 11, 2008

A few weeks back, Time magazine was musing that John McCain was in danger of sliding from “a long shot” to a “no-shot.” Around the same time, a hard-nosed former Hillary Clinton insider declared the race “effectively over” thanks to the McCain campaign’s ineptitude, the tanking U.S. economy and Obama’s advantages in cash, charisma and hope. And Obama, up by three to six points nationally, was about to leverage a much-anticipated trip to Iraq, Afghanistan and Europe into a pre-convention poll surge.

Instead, his supporters are now suffering a pre-Denver panic attack, watching as John McCain draws incrementally closer in state and national polls – with Rasmussen’s most recent daily national tracker showing a statistical dead heat. (And Pew Research reporting the same today - Sara.)

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has been privately enumerating her doubts about Obama to supporters, according to people who have spoken with her. Clinton’s pollster Mark Penn recently unveiled a PowerPoint presentation red-flagging Obama’s lukewarm leads among white female voters and Hispanics – while predicting a five-point swing could turn a presumed Obama win into a McCain landslide.

“It’s not that people think McCain will win – it’s that they are realizing that McCain could win,” says Quinnipiac University pollster Peter Brown, whose surveys show tight races in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. “This election is about Barack Obama — not John McCain — it's about whether Barack Obama passes muster. Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama.”

Obama’s aides point to the stability of his small national lead, say they aren’t worried about his summer stall and think his numbers will improve when voters begin tuning in to the conventions.

The campaign’s confidence may turn out to be justified, but two weeks prior to the national convention there are more than a few worrisome signs for Obama. Here are seven:

1. Race. “The idea that Obama was going to win in a blowout was always preposterous,” says former Nebraska senator and onetime presidential hopeful Bob Kerrey, an Obama backer. “A big piece of this, of course, is whether white people are going to support a black guy. ... If [Obama] is a tall, skinny white guy named Paul Jones, it's a different story.”

Obama is running nearly neck-and-neck with McCain among white voters in most polls, a major cause for optimism considering that John Kerry lost the white vote by 17 points and that Al Gore lost it by 12 points. Among whites, he does well with women, the affluent and college grads but fares poorly among low-income earners and Catholics — key swing groups that handed Hillary Rodham Clinton stunning blowouts in West Virginia and Kentucky.

How much does his race factor into tightening contests in Missouri, Wisconsin, Florida, Minnesota and Ohio? Nobody knows — and that’s the problem.

A huge challenge for Obama, insiders say, is simply determining how much skin color will matter in November. Race is nearly impossible to poll — no one ever says “I’m a racist” — and no campaign wants it revealed they are even asking questions on the issue.

“It’s the uncertainty that kills me — we know it’s going to be factor, but how big a factor?” asks a Democratic operative with ties to the Obama camp. “How do you even measure such a thing?

Adding to the jitters: GOP surrogates like New York Rep. Peter King have vowed to make Obama’s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright a centerpiece during the homestretch.

2. Obama’s strength in Virginia may be overhyped. His chances of ending the Democrats 44-year losing streak in the commonwealth are pretty good — thanks to the explosive growth of the liberal D.C. suburbs, and a 147,000 spike in voter registration sure to benefit Democrats. But Obama’s aides privately concede his odds in Virginia are probably no better than 50-50 and that the state is far from a lock-solid hedge if he loses Ohio and Florida.

3. Michigan’s in play for McCain. In the year of the downturn, the hard-hit upper Midwest should be prime Obama country. Instead it’s a potential minefield. Obama is still ahead by two to five points there — similar to margins of victory enjoyed by Gore and Kerry in the last two presidential contests — but McCain has quietly crept up over the past month and could vault ahead if he anoints ex-Gov. Mitt Romney as his running mate. Simmering tensions between predominantly black Detroit and its white suburbs could hurt Obama. And McCain’s surrogates were handed a gift in the jailing of Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, an Obama supporter.

“Watch Michigan — the Democrats think they've got it but they don't,” says Quinnipiac’s Peter Brown, a longtime Michigan observer. “Obama should be killing [McCain] there, but there's a lot more racial tension in Michigan than in other states.”

Obama also hasn’t pulled away in other Democrat-friendly neighboring states, watching leads in Wisconsin and Minnesota erode over the last month.

4. Bad times could be good for McCain. If anger helps Democrats, fear works to the advantage of Republicans. A growing number of Democratic strategists worry that some swing state voters may opt for McCain if the economy veers from merely awful to downright terrifying. The typical political calculus —that bad economic times will deliver the White House to Democrats — may not hold if people start viewing the downturn as, essentially, a national security crisis that can’t be entrusted to a novice. And that was McCain’s underlying message in his Paris Hilton ad: Bank failures, soaring gas prices and plummeting house values are forms of economic terrorism, and he’s an all-purpose anti-terror warrior.

“John McCain is a known quantity,” says Bob Kerrey, who thinks Obama will ultimately prevail. “You don't look at John and say, ‘Who the heck is he?’. He's a veteran, he's a guy who got pretty banged up in Vietnam. He can deal with crisis. There's some uncertainty about Senator Obama.”

The good news for Obama, of course, is that McCain is loathed by unions, was somnambulant at the dawn of the housing meltdown and still gropes for a coherent economic policy that doesn’t include the words “offshore drilling.” But he doesn’t have to win the argument, just reinforce doubts about Obama with wavering swing state voters. The Illinois senator still enjoys a major edge on the economic issues, but his 20-point June lead on the question of who can best fix the economy slipped to a 17-point edge in July, according to the Pew Research Center.

“Obama wins on the economy,” said Guy Cecil, Hillary Clinton’s field director during the primaries. “But it will be interesting to see if McCain’s able to close the economic gap.”

5. Where have you gone, Ross Perot? Bill Clinton, the lone two-term Democratic president since FDR, wouldn’t have been elected if independent Ross Perot hadn’t siphoned 19 percent of the vote in 1992. Former Georgia Rep. Bob Barr, staging an indie bid from McCain’s right, has little cash and doesn’t seem to be a factor in competitive states.

6. The Legacy of LBJ, Jimmy and Bubba. Barack Obama would have been a trailblazer no matter what —but the Democrats’ trail to the White House has been remarkably narrow since 1960, accommodating only Southern whites with border-state strength: Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. (Add Al Gore if you’re counting the popular vote.)

7. Americans may want divided government. Some Democratic operatives think a possible landslide for their party in congressional races could backfire on Obama.

“Fairly or not, folks think he’s pretty liberal and nobody wants a pair of Pelosis running things,” says a New York-based Democratic consultant.

Adds Bob Kerrey: “The country's still pretty divided … people may want a divided government. They want change, but I'm not sure that the Democratic agenda has the support of a majority of Americans.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080811/pl_politico/12433;_ylt=Aum45EsZpRoK7yOHc1zPD80DW7oF

-- August 13, 2008 9:01 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Lebanon and their mountains.

Jumblatt deserts Lebanon’s pro-Western camp, signs pact with pro-Iranian Hizballah
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
August 13, 2008, 6:28 PM (GMT+02:00)

Lebanese Druze leader Walid Jumblatt
The fervently pro-US, pro-Israeli Druze leader, Walid Jumblatt, has decided to hold out no longer. He has thrown in his lot with the most extreme pro-Syrian, pro-Iranian, anti-Israel force in Lebanon, the Shiite Hizballah, which has gained veto power over the government in Beirut unopposed.
DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources disclose that over last weekend, Jumblatt quietly signed a “defense cooperation pact” with Hassan Nasrallah, affording Hizballah a strong foothold in the Lebanese Druze bastion of Mt. Chouf.
Drawing the hostile noose around northern Israel ever tighter, Lebanese president Michel Sleiman was due in Damascus Wednesday, Aug. 13, to celebrate the thaw in relations between the two countries.
Neither Israeli ministers, sunk in an acrimonious contest over the succession to Ehud Olmert, nor the United States in the dying days of the Bush presidency, have lifted a finger to arrest Lebanon’s swift slide into the Iranian-Syrian orbit.
Jumblatt, after watching pro-Western strategic positions crumble in his country, decided to join forces with Hizballah to shield his ancestral mountain domain from Syrian domination.
The Druze and Hizballah militias agreed to set up a joint commission for coordinating military operations. Hizballah is represented by its security and intelligence commander, Wafiq Shafa (who was in change of the recent prisoner swap with Israel) and the Druzes by Akram Shahaib.
The joint security patrols for the Druze communities of the Chouf, will also give Hizballah a military presence on its third strategic Lebanese peak, after Mt. Sannine and Jebel Barukh

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 11:34 PM


Sara wrote:

Timbitts; (reply no dimar)

One last note on the male/female hardwiring being different from their magnetic resonance imaging scans taken while under stress - In general, for movies to make a hit, they have to be somewhat true to life. Audiences sense fakery and don't like it, punishing the makers by making such movies fail at the box office. So the film makers tend to try to stay true to what is real and natural. This got me to thinking..

In horror movies or disaster movies, when something really bad happens, the reaction of many women is often to stand there and scream. You never see men doing that. Women also often become hysterical and unreasonable in the same movies/situations, and they won't act in keeping with what the facts of the situation would dictate. This is likely based in fact according to this data. When the limbic system is overloaded, it causes many females to physically freeze, and they are just unable to deal with the situation so they become overemotional (and often uncooperative). They thus compound the situation by their overreaction (screaming, crying, being hysterical, freezing up so they don't move or cooperate, etc.) I view such reactions as unhelpful in battlezone conditions. Even holding all the firepower in the world in their hands, many women whose limbic systems are flooded in this way are simply ineffective in using force to defend or counterattack under such physical stress. Many even lack the ability to flee to shelter, but stand transfixed in horror or screaming. (I always felt that was not a wise use of time, standing there screaming, didn't you? - Have you ever found yourself saying to the TV screen, "Why are you standing there screaming, woman? He's dead. Get out of the way of the tank/gunship/other danger!!")

If a man does not perform a task correctly, his superiors may yell at him. If movies have any basis in truth as to reactions in the real world, the reaction of a man (since he cannot use fight or flight) is to stiffen and listen to the lecture in silence.. most women react by breaking down and crying, as their limbic system floods over with emotion due to the stress of being yelled at. It is unwise to go against nature, therefore combat stress is unlikely to result in troops ready and able to fight if the people in question are female. In other words, it is counterproductive to put women on the frontlines merely from a practical battlefield point of view due to how they are "hardwired" to react to stress.

I just thought I would add that for a little extra ammo.. :)

Sara.

-- August 13, 2008 11:42 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

No Caucasian Ceasefire until Russia Achieves its Aims
DEBKAfile Special Report and Analysis
August 11, 2008

Prime minister Vladimir Putin toys defiant Georgia
By Monday, Aug. 11, the fourth day of the Caucasian conflict, which first erupted over the breakaway province of South Ossetia, the pro-American Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili sounded hopeless in the face of overwhelming Russian might.
International condemnation of Russian behavior as “unacceptable and disproportionate” did not ease his country’s plight or stop the continuing violence.
Saakashvili’s third commitment to a ceasefire, signed in the presence of the French and Finnish foreign ministers, was brusquely rejected by the Kremlin before the would-be mediators had a chance to present it later that day. The Russian NATO ambassador said his government would not deal with the “war criminal” Georgian president, confirming Saakashvili’s charge that one of Moscow’s objects was to oust him as president.
DEBKAfile’s military analysts reported Sunday, Aug. 10:
Russian president Dimitry Medvedev said Sunday, Aug. 10, the war would go on until Tbilisi withdrew its forces unconditionally from South Ossetia and pledged never to attack the region again. This would mean Georgia’s acceptance of its truncation and its surrender to Russian hegemony.
The gap between the claims of both sides attested to the war of words accompanying the battles on the ground. While the Georgians claimed to have killed “several hundred” Russian troops and downed “80 planes,” Moscow admitted to the loss of 18 soldiers and four warplanes.
Civilians, especially in South Ossetia and at least three Georgian towns pummeled by Russian jets, are bearing the brunt of this conflict. Saturday and Sunday, they pounded Gori, the Black Sea naval, military and oil port of Poti, and Zugdidi on the Abkhazian border.
The Red Cross reports that the conflict has displaced at least 40,000 people from their homes. The South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, now a ghost town, is controlled by Russian forces.
That the Georgian town of Gori was pounded from the air for three days is attested to by witnesses. The numbers of the city’s dead and displaced certainly run into hundreds.
DEBKAfile reports that the Russians pulverized Gori to punish Georgia for invading the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali last Thursday, Aug. 7.
Sunday night, Russian planes dropped bombs near Tbilisi’s international airport and a nearby military air installation shortly after the US began flying hundreds of Georgian troops home from Iraq. The intention appeared to be to leave the Georgian reinforcements nowhere to land.
During the day, too, the Russian navy imposed a sea blockade on Georgian’s Black Sea ports and later claimed to have sunk a Georgian vessel during an attack.
In the face of President George W. Bush’s demand for an immediate withdrawal of Russian troops and support for international mediation, Moscow poured an additional 10,000 men and armor into South Ossetia Sunday as well.
DEBKAfile’s military analysts: By flouting US demands to accept mediation, Moscow highlighted America’s lack of leverage for helping its embattled Georgian ally.
The Bush administration finds itself trapped in its foreign policy commitment to dialogue and international diplomacy for solving world disputes, but short of willing opposite numbers.
Russia is following Iran’s example in exploiting Washington's inhibition to advance its goals by force. Therefore, the Caucasian standoff has profound ramifications for the Middle East and Persian Gulf. Moscow’s disdain for Washington’s lack of muscle will further encourage Tehran and its terrorist proxies to defy the international community and the United States in particular.
DEBKAfile’s military analysts reported Saturday, Aug. 9:
Tiny Georgia with an army of less than 18,000, having been roundly defeated in South Ossetia, cannot hope to withstand the mighty Russian army in Abkhazia.
Therefore, President Saakashvili, whose bid to join NATO and the European Union infuriated Moscow, will have to write off both breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as lost to Russia.
This is Moscow's payback for the US-NATO action to detach Kosovo from Serbia and launch it on the way to independence. It is also a warning to former Soviet bloc nations, Ukraine, the Caucasian and Central Asian peoples against opting to join up with the United States and the NATO bloc in areas which Moscow deems part of its strategic sphere of influence
After severing South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgia, four follow-up Russian steps may be postulated:
1. The two separatist provinces will proclaim their independence, just like Kosovo.
2. Russia will continue to exercise its overwhelming military and air might to reduce the pro-American Saakashvili to capitulation.
3. The Georgian president will not be able to face his own nation after losing two regions of his country and causing its humiliation. Moscow will then make Washington swallow a pro-Russian successor.
4. Moscow’s trampling of Georgia will serve as an object lesson for Russia’s own secessionist provinces, such as Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia, and a warning not to risk defying Russian armed might.
4. Western plans to develop more oil and gas pipelines to bypass the Russian network to the West, in addition to the Caspian line which carries one million barrels a day from Baku through Georgia to Turkey and out to the West, will be held in abeyance pending an accommodation with the rulers of the Kremlin

Laura Parker

-- August 13, 2008 11:49 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on terrorism as it affects former Russian satellites.


America Folds Its Tents in the Caucasian and Black Sea Republics Making Way for Moscow’s Return
A DEBKAfile Special Analysis
September 7, 2000
The carving up of the old Soviet Union goes on in line with fresh interests, new pressures and changing alliances. After maintaining a massive presence in the former Soviet republics of the oil-rich Caucasian and Black Sea regions – and sinking $20 billion in projects to remodel their regimes and nurture cooperation – the United States has begun pulling up stakes in Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia. This vital strategic decision is dictated by the Clinton administration’s policy redeployment in preparation for the changing of the guard in the White House. A critical factor in this redeployment is the beginning of a rapprochement between the United States and the ayatollahs in Tehran. The outgoing policy-makers in Washington believe that whoever takes over as president next January, be he Democrat or Republican, he will continue this healing process. Significantly. the Iranian delegation to the UN Millennium Summit this week, headed by President Khatami, won an extra-cordial welcome from its hosts. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright cancelled other appointments to attend the Iranian guest’s lecture at the Metropolitan Museum.
America’s traditional view of Iran as the leading regional power was never fundamentally altered by the passing “accident” of Khomeini’s rise to power in 1979. Even in the years that the Iranian regime displayed extreme anti-American animus, efforts to correct the relationship never abated. But more for now, the US administration is guided by four major considerations: 1. Notwithstanding domestic frictions in the country between reformists and religious conservatives, the regime in Tehran is substantially stable and the army is not called in to take a hand in the feuding. 2. By contrast, domestic and Islamic fundamentalist unrest, including terrorist violence, is spreading fast in the neighboring Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Caucasian. Iran as the dominant Shiite Moslem power keeps aloof from this largely Sunni Moslem thrust. The Iranians are in fact implacably opposed to the extremist Taleban regime Kabul and were poised more than once in the last two years to send troops across the frontier to topple it. 3. The US has long despaired of OPEC as a world price stabilizer (Thursday, Sept 7, crude oil shot up past $35 a barrel) and sought ballast elsewhere. Originally, the Caucasian seemed to fit the bill, but not since the upsurge of Islamic terrorism there. Now the Americans have come to believe that Iran, a major world producer, can be persuaded to quietly agree to expanding production in return for US economic and technological aid. 4. The advisory teams of presidential candidates George W. Bush and Al Gore both favor reconciliation with Iran. Gore is an enthusiast, while Dick Cheney, Bush’s running mate, has long urged lifting the US embargo against Iran as out of date and a boomerang against US interests.
America’s withdrawal from the Caucasian and Black Sea regions will rebound in a number of ways: A. America will no longer invest in laying giant Caucasian-Europe pipelines to avoid transversing either Russia and Iran. Now the oil can run to Europe through Russia. B. The Balkans losetheir importance. A major consideration behind the 1990 and 1998 Balkan wars was the need to provide a western bulwark for the Caucasian oilfields and secure American control of the oil routes to Europe. This consideration has receded. In other words, America’s military presence in Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania is no longer critical to its interests. In the next two or three years, therefore, we shall almost certainly see US military strength exiting the Balkans. C. The Americans will be leaving behind them a power vacuum in the Caucasian and the Balkans and the field clear for Russia’s return. They are more at ease with this scenario since the advent of Vladimir Putin who appears relatively stable, controlled and amenable to doing business with Washington, understanding that if he wants to stay in power, he will have to play ball with the Americans. D. A steady US-Russian-Iranian relationship ought to create a solid fence penning in the restive Caucasian, Afghanistan and Pakistan where the Americans expect more Islamic terrorist trouble and from which they prefer to distance themselves.
These developments provided some of the background for the meeting on August 20 between the Presidents of Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and their sharp joint statement: “We shall crush terrorist actions with the most decisive measures.”
The meeting was called by the Nursultan Nazerbayev of Uzbeksitan, who complained that while Islamic rebels were free to maraud in all their territories, their armies were restricted to their own and thus prevented from doing battle. Uzbek Islamic fighters based in Tajikistan have in recent weeks repeatedly penetrated the remote mountain regions between Kyrgistan and Uzbekistan. Unofficial sources said they suffered dozens of dead while government troops lost 30 men. Their goal is to take over the broad fertile Feranga Valley lying between Tajikistan and Afghanistan. If they gain this prize, the Moslems guerrillas could carry out their plan to establish a fundamentalist Islamic republic at the heart of the Caucasian and threaten all the countries in the region.
Western diplomats report that the Moslem insurgents are better trained and armed than every before, with anti-air weapons, night-vision equipment and new sniper rifles, as well new communications equipment. They do not appear to be short of money. All this indicates that they are receiving training and arms in Afghanistan, whether from the Taleban rulers or from Osama Bin Laden, the millionaire master terrorist, their guest.
There is another possible explanation for the recent upsurge in Islamic militant activity in this multi-frontiered crossroads: keeping the frontiers open for the unimpeded traffic of heroin out of Afghanistan, deliveries of which have also mounted.
The Caucasian presidents ended their meeting with a decision to establish a multi-national military force free for cross-frontier operation. DEBKAfile’s military analysts doubt whether these former Soviet republics are capable of getting together sufficiently to operate a joint military command that will effectively combat the Moslem rebels. They will run to Moscow for help – and this will happen very soon after the loss of their American umbrella.

Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 12:02 AM


Sara wrote:

Not to undermine what a serious thing it can be.. to be faced with an emotional woman with a gun.
Fortunately, she did not kill anyone, though she tried. Attempted murder and assault are the right charges.
Note the plans of the enemy to attack the Homeland, below. This is not tiddly winks.. but serious stuff.
We need a man at the helm who can call the shots and protect the Homeland from such persons.
Do you think appeasement and talking to her would have worked?

===

Pakistani Woman Allegedly Carried List of NYC Terror Targets
Wednesday, August 13, 2008 AP / Fox News

NEW YORK — An MIT-educated Pakistani woman charged with trying to kill U.S. agents and military officers in Afghanistan allegedly carried a list of New York City targets -- including the Statue of Liberty, Times Square and the subway system, NY1.com reported on Wednesday.

Aafia Siddiqui was stopped on July 17 outside a government building in central Afghanistan's Ghazni province, according to a criminal complaint. Police searched her handbag and discovered documents containing recipes for explosives and chemical weapons and describing "various landmarks in the United States, including New York City," according to the complaint.

Siddiqui, 36, once identified as a possible Al Qaeda associate, was extradited to New York last week to face charges she tried to kill U.S. agents and military officers during an Afghanistan interrogation, federal prosecutors said. During the confrontation she was shot in the torso.

Siddiqui also was carrying "chemical substances in gel and liquid form that were sealed in bottles and glass jars," the complaint said. It did not elaborate. Jahangir said she was carrying "liquid poison."

The next day, as a team of FBI agents and U.S. military officers prepared to question her, Siddiqui grabbed a rifle, pointed it at an Army captain and yelled that she wanted blood, prosecutors said. An interpreter pushed the rifle aside as she fired two shots, which missed, they said. One of two shots fired by a soldier in response hit her in the torso.

Even after being hit, Siddiqui struggled and shouted in English "that she wanted to kill Americans" before the officers subdued her, the complaint said.

U.S. authorities said that Siddiqui had received a biology degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and wrote a doctoral thesis on neurological sciences at Brandeis University, outside Boston, in 2001 before returning to Pakistan shortly after Sept. 11.

Though they never alleged she was a full-fledged member of Al Qaeda, authorities said they believed Siddiqui could be a "fixer," someone with knowledge of the United States who supported other operatives trying to slip into the country and plot attacks.

Siddiqui is charged with one count each of attempted murder and assault. If convicted, she could face up to 20 years in prison on each charge.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403221,00.html

-- August 14, 2008 12:11 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on terrorism.

Saddam Uses Palestinian Terror Proxies for Jordan
From DEBKAfile’s Exclusive Counter-Terror Sources
November 12, 2002

For Yasser Arafat, suicide attacks in Kibbutz Metzer, at the Karkur Junction or on Jerusalem’s Jaffa Street are not enough. In the last few hours, reports have reached DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources that the three thousands Jordanian special forces and police, after sealing off the southern towns of Ma’an and Kerak for three days and battling local Islamic zealots, are closing in on their quarry: the assassins who shot dead the senior American diplomat, Lawrence Foley, on his doorstep in Amman on October 28, and their dispatchers. The wanted men include Iraqi military intelligence agents and Palestinian members of the Arab Liberation Front, whose leader, Abul Abbas, has his headquarters in Baghdad.
The diplomat, a senior USAID administrator, was shot dead by a professional marksman who fired 8 bullets from a silenced weapon.
Jordanian intelligence and CIA officers in Amman have homed in on two likely paths of inquiry: One is al Qaeda, which maintains secret cells and operational rings among the Muslim fundamentalist Bedouin tribes of southern Jordan. Osama Bin Laden, his family and operational command found refuge there in 1996 when Sudan was compelled by Washington make him leave the country. He spent several months in the Ma’an region before relocating in Afghanistan.
There are still rumors that Bin Laden and some of his top lieutenants took Jordanian wives during their brief stay. Even if no such kinship ties were established, neighboring Saudi tribes who do not hide their enthusiasm for bin Laden and al Qaeda have a strong influence in the region and agitate continuously against the Hashemite throne, especially since American troops arrived in the kingdom.
The most wanted man in Jordan today is Muhammad Shalabi, also known as Abu Sayyaf, with his three top aides.
The second path, as DEBKAfile reported immediately after the murder, has led to Palestinian terror cells in Jordan controlled by Iraqi military intelligence agents. For Saddam, the Palestinian terrorists were convenient surrogates for a mission Iraqi intelligence could not afford to execute directly lest the American be presented with the very pretext they need to overcome international objections to military action. To keep their hands clear, the Iraqi agents swarming in Jordan operate through Palestinian cells set up in the large Palestinian population and controlled by the Baghdad-based Arab Liberation Front. This group performs a dual role; it is the Palestinian operational arm of Iraqi intelligence in Jordan and also the connecting link between Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein, that is Baghdad and the al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
As DEBKAfile has reported before, the al Aqsa commander, Tawfiq Tirawi, who has been holed up in Arafat’s Ramallah offices for months, and Abul Abbas were born in the same village of Tirah, north of Ramallah, and went to the same school. This friendship has deepened over the years as their operational ties intensified – Saddam benefiting by acquiring a conduit through which to plant his agents in Jordan and the West Bank, and Arafat, by gaining Iraqi military intelligence financial and logistical backing for his al Aqsa Brigades.
Arafat had his own reason for disposing of Foley. USAID was the instrument assigned by the Bush administration to midwife the Palestinian reform program. Arafat is dead set against any democratic reforms or measures for making Palestinian Authority finances transparent. He is determined not to let USAID set foot in his jurisdiction.
Last week, when King Abdullah II learned that Lawrence Foley’s killers were sheltering in the Ma’an district, he summoned local tribal leaders and made them an offer; turn over the wanted men voluntarily or else Jordanian security troops would go in and get them. They turned him down. On Saturday, November 9, therefore, royal army troops arrived and clamped a curfew down on Ma’an and Keraq, their 80,000 inhabitants and the 100,000 Bedouin nomads who roam the region – around five percent of Jordan’s total population. Fixed telephone and electricity wires were disconnected and the water supply switched on only part of the day. Jordanian troops and security men hunted for the fugitives in house to house, tent to tent, cave to cave, searches amid clashes.
Monday, November 11, the Jordanian authorities announced a number of foreigners had been taken in.
DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report the detained foreigners fall into three main groups:
Egyptians: Members of the extremist al Takfir Al Hijra, the roof organization of the Egyptian Jihad Islami whose leader, Ayman Zuwahri, is Osama bin Laden’s chief lieutenant and operations officer of al Qaeda;
Saudi Wahhabists from two tribes, the Rashid and the Uteibi, who are zealous followers of bin Laden;
Iraqi military intelligence agents, including Palestinian operatives, members of Abul Abbas’s group who were smuggled into Jordan from Baghdad.
In the early stage of the investigation it turned out that the Iraqis and Palestinians in custody were connected with the murder of Foley. Investigators also came to realize how deep were the collaborative relations binding the Arab Liberation Front, Arafat’s Al Aqsa Brigades and Iraqi military intelligence. The questioning also exposed the dense net of Iraqi and Palestinian agents thrown over the southern half of Jordan, from Aqaba port in the south, through the southern towns of Ma’an, Kerak and Madabah, up to the southern outskirts of Amman, where the assassin hid out.

It further transpired that all these agents had been given tasks for execution immediately upon the launch of the American offensive against Iraq. They were to sabotage Aqaba harbor installations to render the port unusable for taking delivery of reinforcements and supplies destined for the Americans and Jordanians fighting on the western front; to blow up key transport junctions, roads and bridges going north out of Aqaba and to stir up popular riots, if possible rebellion.

Most of all, the picture unfolding from data garnered from the men rounded up in Ma’an is one of deep mutual commitment and a steady flow of operational exchanges between Saddam’s palatial bunker in Tikrit and Arafat’s ravaged headquarters in Ramallah.

Laura Parker

Interesting history on Iraq's ties to terrorism.

-- August 14, 2008 12:24 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Christian persecution in Iran from Italian news service.

Religion
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Iran: Sixteen Christian converts arrested


Tehran, 29 July (AKI) - Sixteen Iranians who converted from Islam to Christianity were arrested on Tuesday in Malakshahr, on the outskirts of the central Iranian city of Isfahan.

The six women, eight men and two adolescents who were arrested were assisting in a conversion ceremony and baptism of three new members of the church at a private house that had been transformed into an evangelical church.

The owners of the home, an elderly couple, were allegedly beaten up before they were locked up in an unmarked lorry.

In April, 10 Christian converts were arrested in Shiraz.

The official evangelical churches in Isfahan received orders not to allow any Muslims to attend their ceremonies and not to facilitate in any way the conversions.

Iranian law does not stipulate any punishment for those who convert from Islam to other faiths, even if the converts are subject to repression.

A few months ago, the government presented a bill which is currently being discussed in parliament, to include in the penal code the crime of "Ertedad" which is the act of abandoning the Muslim faith.

If the parliament does approve the law, the punishment for abandoning Islam will be the death penalty.

Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 12:46 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article from Italian news on terrorism and Security.


Pakistan: Terror suspect should be tried at home, says govt

Washington, 13 August (AKI) - Pakistan has asked the United States to hand over a female terror suspect for repatriation so she can stand trial at home.

The Pakistani Embassy in Washington formally asked the State Department for the repatriation of Aafia Siddiqui.

Siddiqui, a 36-year-old nuclear scientist, has been charged in a New York district court with attempting to kill US troops sent to arrest her in Afghanistan last month.

"She should be given a fair trial in the US or handed over to Pakistan where she would be tried for any offence that she may have committed," an embassy official told Adnkronos International (AKI).

Siddiqui is also accused of links to al-Qaeda. She was reported to have been shot during her arrest and her lawyers say she has not received medical attention while in custody.

"It has become a very serious case in Pakistan. We have made an official request to the State Department."

The Pakistan Embassy has also asked for the repatriation of the three children of the Pakistani woman if media reports are confirmed that they are in US custody.

"There are reports that the three children are in US custody. We have requested that they be handed over and sent to their relatives."

The embassy said public sentiment was running high in Pakistan over the case because Siddiqui disappeared five years ago.

An embassy official visited Siddiqui in the Brooklyn detention centre where she is being held and expressed concern about her condition.

"She was very weak and traumatised and unable to speak," the embassy spokesman told AKI.

The embassy has also urged US authorities to ensure that Siddiqui does not have to go through any humiliation or degradation under the pretext of body searches before and after any visits by her attorneys.

Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani has assigned a diplomat in New York to stay in contact over the issue.

Siddiqui went missing in 2003 with her three children after leaving her Karachi home on the way to the airport.

Siddiqui appeared in court in New York on 5 August accused of assaulting and attempting to kill US personnel sent to take custody of her in Afghanistan last month.

But there has been no explanation of her whereabouts since March 2003.

Human rights activists including retired squadron leader Khalid Khawaja believe Siddiqui has been the victim of a conspiracy by intelligence agencies.

"Americans have done what is generally done in the rogue police states where people are detained under false charges," Khawaja told AKI last week.

The embassy official said he had no information about any involvement of Pakistani intelligence in Siddiqui's disappearance.

Siddiqui is expected to appear in court again to face a bond application hearing on 3 September.


Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 12:55 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I printed this last article, even though I knew Sara had printed a news article on same subject because Italian news claims this Pakistani woman is a nuclear scientist. I do not think the USA should send her back to Pakistan with this kind of background. It's too risky.

Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 12:58 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article from Italian news service on
Iran: Kurdish student sentenced to death

Tehran, 13 August (AKI) - An Iranian court has sentenced to death a Kurdish student, Habibollah Latifi, his lawyer Nemat Ahmadi announced late on Tuesday.

Latifi is the third Iranian Kurd to receive a death sentence in less than a month in hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's ongoing campaign against ethnic minorities.

In late July, two teachers, Anwar Hossein Panahi and Arsalan Oliaii were also handed death sentences.

Six Iranian Kurds are now on death row, including award-winning journalist Adnan Hassanpour.

All have been convicted of 'endangering state security' and 'relations with illegal political organisations'.

Prominent Arab journalist Yousef Bani Azizi on Monday was sentenced to five years in prison and last week a young Baloch journalist, Yaghoub Mehrnad was hanged.

Four female Kurdish activists are currently in prison.


Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 1:08 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's budget to hit $100bn in 2009

Iraq is expected to prepare a budget of up to $100bn for 2009, an increase of $30bn over 2008, if oil prices remain at their current level, head of the oil and gas committee at the Iraqi parliament said yesterday.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:03 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

US troops will pull out in three years under new deal -- Iraq minister

Politics 8/14/2008 12:16:00 PM



LONDON, Aug 14 (KUNA) -- American soldiers will withdraw from cities across Iraq next summer and all US combat troops will leave the country within three years, provided the violence remains low, under the terms of a draft agreement with the Iraqi government, it was reported here Thursday.
In one of the most detailed insights yet into the content of the deal, Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, told The Times newspaper that the US military would be barred from unilaterally mounting attacks inside Iraq from next year.
In addition, the power of arrest for US soldiers would be curbed by the need to hand over any detainee to a new, US-Iraq committee.
Troops would require the green light from their joint command before conducting any operation.
The Pentagon refused to comment on the proposals laid out in the draft agreement between Baghdad and Washington that covers the status of US forces beyond 2008.
Britain will strike its own deal with Iraq, but Prime Minister Gordon Brown hopes to withdraw most US troops from Iraq by next summer, reducing the number of soldiers from 4,100 to "a few hundred" by then, the paper added.
Zebari said in an interview, "Our negotiators and the Americans have almost brought it the accord to a close. It is not a closed deal but it is very close." After five months of sometimes heated debate, the technical part of the job, drawing up a legally sound document that contains various compromises and is written in the right language, is over.
Next, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, and other Iraqi leaders must give their approval, something that could happen this month, although Talabani is in the US recovering from a knee operation.
The so-called strategic framework, which includes a temporary status-of-forces agreement (sofa), would then be put before parliament, which returns from a summer break in early September.
Asked if the deal was acceptable to Iraq, Zebari replied, "I think we can defend it, yes. I would say that it is the most advanced version of a sofa ever that the United States has done with any other country . . . because of the areas of compromises, of concessions, of understanding.
"This is not a re-colonisation as some of our critics say, or another Anglo-Iraqi treaty of the 1930s that will bind Ira.
"The terms of the deal can be reviewed within one or two years, subject to the approval of both sides, which ensures that the next US Administration will not be bound by the conditions." Zebari said that the agreement also made no provision for permanent US military bases in the country, a point of contention for the Iraqi public.
The US has scores of sprawling military camps up and down Iraq.
Both sides "have managed to make some compromises on all the sticky issues or problematic areas of any sofa, which are universal, jurisdiction; detention; powers of authorisation to launch military operations; issues of sovereignty," the foreign minister, speaking in his office in Baghdad, said.
The "time horizon" for the exit of US troops would depend upon the ability of the Iraqi police and army to maintain security gains in Iraq after a surge of US forces in 2007 helped to push violence to its lowest levels in four-and-a-half years.
"We are talking about combat troops, maybe in 2010-11, there could be drawdowns," Zebari said, confirming that this was referred to in the draft accord.
The strategic framework provides a legal basis for US forces in Iraq after a UN mandate expires at the end of the year, another contentious notion for the many Iraqis who oppose the continuing presence of foreign troops.
US President George W Bush has long resisted setting a firm timetable to pull out the remaining 145,000 US servicemen and women in Iraq but the White House has begun referring to a general "time horizon" and "aspirational goals" in recent weeks, The Times concluded. (end) he.ema KUNA 141216 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:17 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi military expects tough going in Diyala provice

Military and Security 8/14/2008 12:13:00 AM



BAGHDAD, Aug 13 (KUNA) -- The Iraqi military expects tough going when the second stage of Bashaer al-Khair operation starts in earnest in Diyala province northeast of the capital city, a military source said on Wednesday.
The nature of the topography of the province, with its far-flung farm land, enables armed insurgents and roadside bombers to easily hide their explosive charges among trees or in bushes, posing thus great danger to law enforcement agents looking to clear the province of these insurgents and their bombs, said director of fighting insurgent bombings at the ministry of Interior, Major General Jihad Leaibi.
The military operation in Diyala, though ardous as it may be, will deliver a devastating blow to armed outlaws there as over fifty teams made up of experts on explosives have already begun sweeping some of the neighborhoods in Diyala looking for caches of arms, he said.
He added that the forces under his command have so far disabled some 730 explosive charges, and three vehicles booby-trapped-ready for explosion.
Knowing the enormity of the task ahead of the military in Diyala in coming days, he was realistic enough to admit that casualties among civilians and members of his force were bound to happen.
Chief of central command at the ministry of Interior Major General Abdulkarim Khalaf, while echoing Major General Leaibi's assessment of the rough going the military will have in Diyala when the second phase of operations starts there, underlined that bombers and terrorists in the province had until August 15 to turn themselves in to authorities or face dire consequences.
Already he said some of these gangs and bands of armed men had done that, their number topping so far 74, said General Khalaf.
It was prime minister Nouri al-Maliki who recently ordered suspension of Bashaer al-Khair operation to give time to armed gangs of terrorists to surrender. Diyala province is considered one of the last strongholds of al-Qaeda terrorists where until recently the terror group known as the State of Islamic Iraq posed as a front for al-Qaeda. (end) aha.ajs KUNA 140013 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Will the Kurds fit into Iraq?
By Francis Matthew

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14 August 2008 (Gulf News)
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The argument in Iraq over the status of Kirkuk - currently focused on how the planned provincial elections should be run - is only one element of the single biggest problem that the country now faces, which is how to merge the Kurdish regions back into a federal state, and even finding out if that is still possible.

Most of Iraq's political action in the past three years has focused on how the 45 per cent of Iraq's population who are Shiite will find a way to get along with the 30 per cent who are Sunni. The fighting and the political dialogue between the many elements of Shiites (some in favour of a more Iraqi national outcome, and some in favour of closer links to Iran) and various Sunni groups (some more tribal and some more national) have all been part of the struggle to build a new political identity in Iraq.

The Kurds have held aloof from all this. They achieved effective independence in 1992, when the Western forces enforced a no-fly zone on Saddam Hussain's forces after the liberation of Kuwait, and Saddam withdrew his government officials from what then became Kurdistan. Importantly for what is happening today, the no-fly zone ran a few miles north of Kirkuk, which allowed Saddam to 'Arabise' the city by encouraging Arabs to move in and settle, tipping the population towards an Arab majority. The Kurds have been vigorously reversing this trend since Saddam's fall, getting more and more Kurds to go and live in Kirkuk.

Bitter civil war

The Kurds achieved internal political stability after a bitter civil war in 1994 and 1995, which left Masoud Barzani's Kurdistan Democratic Party, (KDP) in control of Irbil and northwest Kurdistan; and Jalal Talabani (now President of Iraq) with his Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) in charge of Suleimaniyah. Successful government in the two areas gave the Kurdish population a calm and prosperous life, very different from the misery and chaos that the rest of Iraq had to endure under Saddam, and the chaos of the aftermath of his toppling.

Till today, both parties have solid support among the Kurds. Importantly, they have also maintained their militias, the peshmerga, which are some of the most effective armed forces in Iraq. Moreover, they owe nothing to the central government and everything to their Kurdish leaders. This all means that the Kurds have a lot to lose by joining in what is happening in the rest of Iraq, and nor do they see much to gain. This lack of interest is what the Iraqi central government will have to deal with in some way, or face a serious collapse of its national plans. Most of Iraq would benefit hugely from the planned elections in the 18 provinces. They would allow local regional government to operate more effectively through a popular mandate, and would also allow regional leaders to emerge and take their formal place in public life.

The proposed Provincial Election Law was proceeding on its way, but the Kurds saw it as an attack on their interests. Not so much as on what was happening in their home territories of Irbil and Suleimaniyah, but in their struggle to gain acknowledged control of Kirkuk, and its province of Tamim. The city of Kirkuk suffers from having twin identities as both the historic and spiritual capital of the Kurdish region, but also as the centre of Iraq's oil industry. It is impossible for the Kurds not to insist that Kirkuk is recognised as Kurdish, but it is also impossible for the Iraqi government to grant control over its oil reserves to the Kurds. The clumsy solution the government tried to achieve in Article 24 of the proposed Provincial Election Law, required that the membership of the Tamim assembly should be split three ways equally between Kurds, Turkmens and Arabs. This outraged the Kurds, who are certainly the largest group in today's Kirkuk, if not the majority.

The solution is for the Iraqi central government to tackle the stalled problem of the law governing control of the nation's oil reserves, which should reduce any provincial rights and have the strategy and control of the nation's oil revert to the central government. While the central government should assert its authority over the oil, it should also be prepared to implement provincial elections based on the demographics of the regions, and accept the result.

The issue of how to ensure representation of the minorities in the assemblies can be solved by using the list-based system of proportional representation voting that Iraq's national elections used in 2005. Minorities should not have to rely on very clumsy central government edicts, dictating that each group gets a third each, regardless of population.

Elections based on proportional representation also mean that any minority need not just be ethnic or religious groups. In time, and in a more hopeful future, minorities seeking support from the popular vote could include minority political parties or social action groups. Anything that Iraq builds at the moment, should allow for the introduction of less ethnically driven politics, and should let an active civil society emerge.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:25 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

'Kips Bay' Air Assault Brings Security
August 13, 2008
Army News Service

CAMP STRIKER, Iraq - Iraqi Army and Rakkasan Soldiers executed Operation Kips Bay, an air assault to establish a solid IA presence in Al Betra in the early morning hours Aug. 8.

Al Betra is approximately 30 kilometers southwest of Baghdad and has had only a small presence of Coalition and IA forces in the area.

The 4th Company, 1st Battalion, 23rd Brigade, 17th Iraqi Army Division and Company A, 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) conducted the combined mission.

Teams of Soldiers searched houses for any evidence of caches and insurgent activity and assessed the area for terrorist threats during the sweep.

"This mission was good for the Iraqi Army; it shows that we are concerned about the area and here for the people," said 2nd Lt. Thaw Al Fkar, 4/1/23/17th IA. "The area we went into has been known for terrorist activity, and going in showed that the terrorists cannot have this area."

"Prior to even coming into the area we spent five days (surveying), speaking with the local sheikhs and leaders, gaining information on what to expect," said 2nd Lt. Jerry Wolfe, from Headquarters Platoon, Co. A, 3-187th Inf. Regt.

"We are making sure the IA stays focused in the area. They (play) more of a dominant role in the region, and the people see them and interact with them," Wolfe said. "The main thing is to keep the IA in the lead."

Coalition forces are functioning in primarily a support role on missions like Kips Bay to prepare the IA for their transition to the lead security element in the area currently under 3rd BCT, 101st Abn. Div. (AASLT) control.

"(Kips Bay) helps with transition," Fkar said. "The Soldiers involved were well prepared, and there was good work between the Coalition and IA."
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:26 AM


Sara wrote:

Laura; The accounts differ very significantly between the one I posted which explains the US perspective - with explosive and chemical weapons plans, jars of chemical gels and liquids, maps of US targets, assault and attempted murder - to the account of the woman being a hapless "victim" of the intelligence services of the Great Satan. Certainly, the account you posted, apart from the helpful intelligence that she also is a nuclear scientist, plays well to Islamic terrorist sentiments.

I read yesterday that the real threat isn't from Afghanistan but a country we will not invade, Pakistan. This is the country which wishes to have her sent to them. Certainly, many, including this four star NATO commander (below) have made clear the governmental intelligence services of Pakistan are cooperating with and substantially aiding and abetting the terrorists. Indeed, it is much like Iran with Iraq.. almost a proxy war with Pakistan, according to the account below. Therefore, I agree, we should not give a terrorist back to a terrorist sponsoring nation, as their "justice" would be not to punish her for her crimes, but to reward her for serving their cause and proclaim her innocent.

===

Pakistan intelligence helping Taliban: NATO general
by Bronwen Roberts
Sun Aug 10, 2008

KABUL (AFP) - Pakistan's intelligence agency is helping the Taliban to pursue an insurgency in Afghanistan that has seen a 50 percent hike in attacks in some areas this year, the NATO commander here told AFP.

The number of foreign fighters, including Europeans, is also increasing here while NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) still lacks the soldiers it needs, US General David D. McKiernan said in a weekend interview.

"There certainly is a level of ISI complicity in the militant areas in Pakistan and organisations such as the Taliban," the four-star general said, echoing allegations by Afghan President Hamid Karzai and others.

"I can't say to what level of leadership that goes to but there are indications of complicity on the part of ISI... to the extent that they are facilitating these militant groups that come out of the tribal areas in Pakistan."

Karzai has directly accused the ISI of fuelling the unrest in Afghanistan, which sees near daily militant attacks, but Pakistan has rejected the claim.

If Afghanistan's borders were secured and it were up to the Afghan people, the insurgency could be dealt with "rather quickly," McKiernan said.

"But when you have a problem of porous borders and fighters and weapons and resources and command and control and logistics being brought in from outside of Afghanistan, that adds a complicating context to the insurgency," he said.

The length of the ISAF mission depends on when war-torn Afghanistan can take charge of its own security, the US general said.

"How fast we can get there, I don't know, but it is important that the international community remain committed to Afghanistan," he said.

There are, however, some provinces and districts where Afghan forces should be able to take over within the next few years with the international forces still available as back-up, McKiernan added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/afghanistanunrestnato;_ylt=Ap1pPt0zpQlCyvdQ4OWjwisDW7oF

NOTE that: If Afghanistan's borders were secured and it were up to the Afghan people, the insurgency could be dealt with "rather quickly,"
BUT, when you have a problem of porous borders and fighters and weapons and resources and command and control and logistics being brought in from outside of Afghanistan, that adds a complicating context to the insurgency."

In other words, if Pakistan were not aiding the Taliban, this war would be over.
This is exactly like Iran sponsoring terrorism in Iraq.
We wouldn't send her back to Iran if requested.. why should we Pakistan? (and for the same reasons)
I don't care if the government of the US is seeking to forge better relations there with Pakistan..
if they are sponsoring and aiding terrorism in Afghanistan so our guys are being killed..
we ought to call a spade a spade - and that means not handing her over to Pakistan.

Sara.

-- August 14, 2008 10:37 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Since the Iraqi Parliment is currently in recess and failed to pass the HCL, the elections law, and a failure to pass the budget supplemental. With September containing both Islamic holidays Ramadan and Rosh Hashanah it is unlikely any significant movement on the HCL, elections law, or the exchange rate. It expectation for a signficant change in the exchange rate of the dinar may not occur until sometime in 2009; but, the issue of kirkuk may dominate the entire year along with the other issues I have mentioned.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 10:48 AM


Sara wrote:

tim bitts wrote:

A Speech I'd like to hear Obama give:

"There has been a lot of rumours about my religious beliefs, and I am here to set the record straight.

I am not a Muslim.

My father was Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My stepfather was a Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My father came from the Kenyan coast of Africa, which is heavily Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My black grandmother was a Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My black grandfather was a Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My cousins in Africa are Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

My half-brother is a Muslim who hates America, is a Muslim, but I am not a Muslim.

Four of my formative years were spent, growing up, in the country with the largest Muslim population on earth, but I am not a Muslim.

In that country, Indonesia, I went to a Muslim school, a madrassa, but I am not a Muslim.

At the madrassa, I studied the Q'ran, the Muslim holy book, but I am not a Muslim.

I studied the Q'ran, in the original Arabic, as a child, but I am not a Muslim.

My last name, Obama, is a common Muslim name, but I am not a Muslim.

My middle name, Hussein, is a common Muslim name, but I am not a Muslim.

I once said that the Muslim call to prayer is the sweetest sound I have ever heard, but I am not a Muslim.

I was photographed, a couple of years ago, dressed in traditional Muslim garb, but I am not a Muslim.

So, I hope this sets the record straight.

I am not a Muslim.

Now where did all you people get the idea, I might be Muslim, in the first place?"

-- July 15, 2008 8:55 PM ∞

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/07/iraq_dinar_disc.html#135941

That was a very good question you posed, Timbitts...
Where do we get these false impressions from?
Maybe it was from the mistaken impression his FATHER had when he wrote it on this document??
Because NOW, today:

AP Photo Has Obama Listed As Muslim
An interesting photograph from Tatan Syuflana of the Associated Press:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV2c24K0

(Click to enlarge)

QUOTE:

This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)

(end quote)

It would seem that photos of Mr. Obama in Muslim garb are not the only thing the AP has been sitting on lately.

And please note the artful construction in the caption. You see, it was Barry’s “Muslim father” who said his son was a Muslim.

Obviously the AP are experts at forensics or reading the minds of dead people.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Thursday, August 14th, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-photo-shows-obama-listed-as-muslim

-- August 14, 2008 11:17 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

I noticed on CNN, which seems to be pushing Obama's candidacy, they mentioned that 9% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. After mentioning that, they went on to disparage those beliefs, and the belief in general, that Barack is a radical.

Which is an odd thing, in light of this new evidence.

It's also an odd thing, considering I was just in Portland, Oregon, a liberal hotbed, and I was going to listen to some jazz on Alberta Street, which is a very artsy area, with a good mix of blacks and whites. And what did I see on the walls of shops? Obama posters all over the place, right next to art celebrating Louis Farrakhan, the black Muslim radical.

As officer Barbary from South Park would say, "Move along, nothing to see here!"

The MSM is obviously trying to pull a con-job on the public.

-- August 14, 2008 11:46 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Non-Dinar

Follow-up to a conversation about the threat of China.

Sports and the future:

I think sports are used by governments to send a message to the world about power and dominance.

During the Cold War, the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. used to battle it out, at the Olympics, for dominance, and total numbers of medals.

Not anymore.

The heart of the old Soviet Union, Russia, isn't doing well, at all.

Russia's low medal count (Korea has more) is an indication of their loss of status, as a serious competitor.

America is doing pretty well, but is no longer a clear #1

Who is?

It's a very close race, between China and the Americans.

(Canada is a small country and we aren't doing well)

China is leading the Americans, in gold medals, by a large lead.

America has more 2nd and 3rd place finishes than America.

The Chinese government has backed China's Olympic bid with lots and lots of money.

It's a clear message to America: China is an up and coming country, on the move, and we are, right now, challenging America for supremancy.

I talked to a Chinese-Canadian friend of mine about this, and he says the Chinese back-home are overjoyed to be beating the Americans, he chuckled and said he thought the Americans are surprised to be beaten by such short people, and he's very proud of his home country, the venues look spectacular, and he thinks this Olympics shows China is now a serious power and rival to the Americans, and Chinese feel like they "are no longer under the boot of America". In other words, the Chinese have felt inferior to the Americans for a long time, and are glad they are now beating the Americans, in business, and sports.

It's sports and money today, and military supremancy tomorrow.

It'll be interesting to see if America, or China, at the end, wins the overall medal count.

Welcome to the 21st Century, America.

Meet your new rival: China.

-- August 14, 2008 2:19 PM


Carole wrote:

DAMN!!!

Always something to get stressed about! Now China! :)

I got a very interesting e-mail several weeks ago concerning how American consumers are playing the biggest part in helping China become a world Super Power on all fronts. The e-mail described their barbaric system of justice, including the abuse of women and children and the killing of thousands of Christians in recent years.

I didn't save the e-mail, and I am now sorry. But the solicitation and the gist of it was to "cripple" the industrialists AND take back our power. The commitment of millions of Americans ( which can be attained by passing on the message via everyone's internet address book) is to limit every house hold to 3 items or less "MADE IN CHINA".

While, the author states, we will be shocked at what a challenge this would be, it is attainable. Supposedly in 60-90 days, the impact on the Chinese economy would bring them to their knees. American business would flourish, and the most powerful unit on this planet, THE AMERICAN CONSUMER, will have made there indellible mark!

I am interested in comments. Think I might challenge myself to do just that.

Carole

-- August 14, 2008 2:56 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Continuing China Conversation:

Carole,

That's an interesting idea, of a boycott and people are free to try it. Just to see how hard that would be, if you ever shop at that great American institution, Wal-Mart, try doing a casual survey. Pick up 10 items at random, in different departments, to see how many are made in China.

My two cents worth of advice to America, is to get a better education for your kids, if you want tham to be able to compete with Asian kids, in the future. Because right now, compared to most industrialized couhtries, American academic performance is pitiful.

That will eventually show up as a diminished standard of living, if things don't improve, IMHO.

Even Canada is outcompeting the Americans, right now. Canadian kids do better than American kids, in school, on average, and Canadians are wealthier, 30%, on average, than Americans, we work shorter hours than Americans, we have less violent crime, fewer divorces, we take more holiday time than Americans, we live longer, have fewer diseases, we spend more time with friends and family, we have lower government and personal debt, and we have less of a gap between rich and poor, and different races, than America, and we even enjoy a beer, far more often, with friends. (Macleans Magazine, August 14/2008)

I really noticed the differences when I recently took a trip to the States.

America is a great country, but there's lots of room for improvement.

America is living on past laurels and accomplishments. America owned the last century. If America wants to be number 1, in the next century, they'll have to earn it. Right now, as far as leadership is concerned, your Congress has a 14% approval rating, by your own people, the American public, so I'd guess, if you polled Iraqis, their government would get a higher approval rating among the Iraqis, their public.

Anyhow, China wants to be number 1, and surpass the United States, this century, and they are working night and day to achieve that goal. Every city the Chinese show up at, they eventually do very well at in business, and academics, whether in Vancouver, Singapore, or San Fransisco. Hong Kong is a marvel, and the Chinese want the rest of China to look like Hong Kong, one of the most modern and wealthy cities in the world.

I was just reading the other day that Macau, the former Portugese colony, in China, and gambling mecca, just surpassed Las Vegas, as the biggest gambling centre in the world. I've been to Vegas 3 times. Surpassing Vegas, that's quite an impressive feat. And Macau is planning a large expansion.

Although Roger would disagree, my opinion is, right now, the future is being made, in Asia, in China and India. Unless something changes, that will continue.

America will continue to be a big power, but not the overwhelming super-power it once was. America will have lots of serious competition, very soon.

Anyhow, I hope this doesn't stress you out too much, Carole. Americans are used to being the big dog on the block, and, it seems to me, from my experience, often think of themselves as always number 1. They now have a serious rival, for number 1 spot. I don't imagine most Americans hear this sort of thing, too often.

-- August 14, 2008 3:52 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura (no dinar)
How many training camps?

==

Cross-border strike targets one of the Taliban's 157 training camps in Pakistan's northwest
By Bill Roggio
August 13, 2008

Ten Taliban fighters, including a commander, were killed in a strike on a training camp and headquarters in South Waziristan. The compound was one of 157 Taliban and al Qaeda camps established in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province.

Taliban commander Abdul Rehman, along with Islam Wazir, three Turkmen, and "several Arab fighters" were reported to be among those killed in today's strike. Some reports indicate up to 25 terrorists were killed in the attack.

The compound is thought to have been run by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, a radical faction with close links to al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. A Taliban training camp and a headquarters building were hit in the strike.

The attack on the Taliban camp in South Waziristan comes one day after a senior US intelligence analyst said al Qaeda has metastasized in Pakistan's tribal regions, and is poised to strike at the US and the West.

"[Pakistan's tribal areas] is a stronger, more comfortable safe haven than it was for them a year ago," said Ted Gistaro, a senior intelligence analyst at the National Intelligence Council said in a speech at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

The Taliban and al Qaeda have expanded their network of training camps and support networks throughout northwestern Pakistan, beyond the lawless tribal agencies, senior intelligence officials tell The Long War Journal on the condition they remain anonymous.

There are currently 157 training camps and "more than 400 support locations" spread throughout the tribal areas and the settled districts of the Northwest Frontier Province, senior intelligence officials speaking on the condition of anonymity told The Long War Journal. This number does not include Taliban camps and support locations in Baluchistan province.

Other officials refused to give an exact number, only saying there are "well over 100 camps in northwestern Pakistan." Earlier this year, US intelligence sources told The Long War Journal that there were more than 100 camps inside northwestern Pakistan.

The camps vary in size and specialty, and some are temporary. An estimated 25 to 50 camps are considered "permanent," meaning they are at a fixed location, with buildings, and sometimes a barracks and a headquarters.

Some camps are devoted to training the Taliban's military arm, some train suicide bombers for attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, some focus on training the various Kashmiri terror groups, some train al Qaeda operatives for attacks in the West, and one serves as a training ground the Black Guard, the elite bodyguard for Osama bin Laden.

Today’s strike in South Waziristan is the latest in a series of cross-border attacks into Pakistan by the US military. There have been six confirmed cross-border attacks against Taliban and al Qaeda safe houses inside Pakistan this year. Three senior al Qaeda leaders were killed in the strikes, while several camps run by the dangerous Haqqani Network were hit as well.

These strikes have done little to disrupt the growth of al Qaeda and the Taliban in northwestern Pakistan. The Taliban and al Qaeda are consolidating their control over the tribal areas and several settled districts in the Northwest Frontier Province. The Pakistani government has signed multiple peace agreements with the Taliban in an effort to stem the violence, but this has only facilitated the rise of the extremists in northwestern Pakistan.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/08/crossborder_strike_t.php

-- August 14, 2008 4:06 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Please share your thoughts on the following:
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Shahrastani told (light): Council of Ministers approved the plan places to develop oil sector

شؤون سياسية - 14/08/2008 - 10:40 am Political affairs - 14/08/2008 - 10:40 am


بغداد/ النور BAGHDAD / Noor

قال د. D said. حسين الشهرستاني وزير النفط ان مجلس الوزراء وافق على خطة عشرية لتطوير القطاع النفطي، بعد ان تأخر اقرار وتشريع قانون النفط الذي صادقت عليه الحكومة العراقية في شباط 2007 . Hussein Shahrastani oil minister said the Cabinet approved the plan places to develop the oil sector, after having delayed adoption of legislation and petroleum law which it has ratified the Iraqi government in February 2007.

وقال في حوار موسع مع صحيفة النور، ت نشره الاسبوع القادم، ان مجلس الوزراء وافق الاسبوع الماضي على الخطة العشرية لوزارة النفط، لتتمكن من المضي بتنفيذ خطط تطوير الحقول والمشاريع النفطية ورفع سقف الانتاج وبناء مصاف جديدة وابرام العقود وتنفيذها بهمة ونشاط وبوتائر متصاعدة، وبما يسهم في تطوير جميع حلقات القطاع النفطي. He said in a broad dialogue with the newspaper Noor, T. bulletin next week, the Cabinet approved the plan last week decimal to the Ministry of Oil, to be able to proceed with the implementation of development plans and projects of oil fields and raise the ceiling on production and build a new rank and conclude contracts and implemented vigorously and rapidly rising, so as to contribute All workshops in the development of the oil sector.

واشار د. , He said. الشهرستاني الى ان وزارة النفط لا تعاني من فراغ تشريعي على الاطلاق، كي تمضي قدماً في تنفيذ خططها التطويرية، موضحاً ان لدى وزارة النفط القوانين النافذة والصلاحيات الكافية لكي تقوم بمهامها على الوجه الاكمل، من اجل تطوير ثروة العراقيين، والحفاظ عليها في ان معاً. Shahrastani added that the Ministry of Oil does not suffer from a legislative vacuum at all, in order to move forward in implementing development plans, explaining that the Oil Ministry and the laws in force with adequate powers to carry out its tasks fully, to develop a wealth of Iraqis, and maintain that together. ولفت الى ان الحكومة العراقية اتخذت قراراً في شباط 2008 باستثمار القوانين النافذة والصلاحيات المخولة بموجبها لتطوير القطاع النفطي. He pointed out that the Iraqi government made a decision in February 2008 to invest existing laws and powers conferred upon which to develop the oil sector. يشار الى ان مجلس الوزراء كان قد صادق بالاجماع في شباط من العام الماضي على قانون النفط وملاحقه الاربعة، وبحضور وزراء التيار الصدري والقائمة العراقية والاكراد، والائتلاف العراقي الموحد. It should be noted that the Cabinet had endorsed unanimously in February of last year, the petroleum law and to prosecute the four, the presence of ministers trend Sadr and the Iraqi List and the Kurds, the United Iraqi Alliance.
(http://translate.google.co.uk)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 14, 2008 5:47 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Yes Sara,

A 157 training camps. That is unbelievable that Pakistan cannot deal with this situation. Or the issue is probably, will not.

Laura Parker

-- August 14, 2008 5:51 PM


Carole wrote:

Tim,
Sorry to say, I believe your perceptions of wht has and is happening in America is right on. There are sooooo many social, econoical and moral and even spiritual woes, that it we need a revolutionary MAKEOVER.

However, there are soooo many entities in this country whom claim to be Americans who really want to see the demise of America. Starting with our judicial system, followed by our immigrations default followed by our destructive let leaned educational system, followed by our enormously unfair entitlement programs that reward the lazy and punish the hard worker.

I love America, and I am sure that it is one of the finest places in the world to live....especially to those who live a parasitic existence..this is the place to live!

We are fast losing our pride and dignity. Two essential ingredients for integrity and leadership.

Carole

-- August 14, 2008 11:44 PM


Tsalagi wrote:


I’ve lived and worked in several parts of this ole planet and I still consider the US to be the “el primo” place to live. The main reason I enjoy being here is because, believe it or not, we’re still the land of the free and home of the brave. The truth is, if the US opened our borders, you would hear a loud vacuum noise as people from all over the planet tried to get to our shores and enter to start a new life.
The following article gives just a few reasons why we’ll be around for awhile. I would like to add that our right to keep and bear arms is another reason we’ll be free for a long time.

http://futurist.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/05/why_the_us_will.html

-- August 15, 2008 1:36 AM


Carole wrote:

Tsalgi

Great reference post......I think over and above all of the points made, the one most critical is that conservatives(right wingers)must NOT let socialism,take hold in our country. I wished the author would have addressed the social mores and the pitfalls that bring down a nation or Empire, respective to Super powerdom.

Thanks again,
Carole

-- August 15, 2008 7:01 AM


Carole wrote:

Tim,

Don't get too haughty.........we still WAAAYYYYYYY out number Canada in Gold Medals! :)

To ALL:

I know I post very little, actually next to nothing on the Dinar. I am sorry for that. There are essentially 2 reasons.
1. everything that Rob and others post are the most current and essentially the only news out there concerning the Dinar.
2. it is next to impossible FOR ME ANYWAY, to iniate or take part in an innovative discussion in a subject that has lost all sense of purpose and objectivity due to THE NATURE OF THE BEAST, which translates to....none of it makes sense and the subject of and surrounding the Dinar has lost integrity and credibility. To discuss the BEAST would be like shooting at a moving target moving vertically, horizontally, zigzaggidly, reversidly, etc....
Nothing fits, nothing equates to proposed or past indicators,and everything defies global economics and international standards.
Just aoput the time the Dinar and all of the appendages associated with it SEEM to be lining up, giving some hope of predictability, it spins OFF THE PLANET, becoming the crazy moving target again.

Maybe, I'm just not bright enough to follow!
Anyway, my apology to the Board.

Carole

-- August 15, 2008 7:19 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Visiting Iraqi seeks to reassure Iran over U.S. pact
Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:08pm EDT By Khalid al-Ansary

TEHRAN (Reuters) - A deal allowing U.S. forces to stay in Iraq beyond the end of this year is not aimed at keeping military pressure on Iran, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih said on Thursday during a visit to Tehran.

The reassurance came at a time when relations between the two neighbors have been more strained than usual over accusations that Iran supported renegade Shi'ite militias in Iraq during battles with government forces earlier this year.

Iran's parliament speaker Ali Larijani denounced the prospective U.S-Iraqi security pact, saying the idea of a continued U.S. presence was ringing alarm bells in the region.

"The aim of the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq is to serve the security and stability of Iraq, not to use Iraq as a base to target the interests of our neighbors," Salih told reporters.

"It is in our interest to consult with our neighbors, Iran and other states, so as not to be misunderstood."

Salih met President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other officials during the trip, which he said was focused more on economic and trade issues than politics and security.

An aide said Salih had also discussed an Iraqi proposal for a regional security network which would include Iran, Turkey and Arab states.

Iran, which fought an eight-year war with Iraq in the 1980s but has influential ties with Iraq's current Shi'ite-led government, has long opposed the presence of U.S. forces, which number about 144,000 in Iraq.

"The issue of a security pact between Iraq and the U.S. irritates the sensitivities of everybody -- the leaders and the states that are friends of Iraq," Iranian parliament speaker Larijani told Reuters.

AMERICAN INTERFERENCE "HARMFUL"

"The interference in determining the destiny of Iraq will be harmful, especially for the Americans (themselves). They must not demand from Iraq more than is required. Let the Iraqi people choose how to live and what government they want."

Salih acknowledged that Iran had expressed concern.

"There is an Iranian stance regarding this issue. I confirmed this is an Iraqi issue that is based on the Iraqi national interest ... which aims to protect the sovereignty of Iraq," he said.

The security deal under negotiation would provide a legal basis for U.S. forces to remain in Iraq after a U.N. Security Council mandate expires at the end of this year. The U.N. mandate was passed after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, and has authorized the presence of U.S. forces ever since.

Iraqi authorities say the deal is nearly complete and should be presented to parliament in September. They are seeking a "time horizon" which will commit the United States to an eventual withdrawal.

Washington has long accused mainly Shi'ite Iran of meddling in the affairs of Iraq, which has a Shi'ite Muslim majority and a Shi'ite-led government since the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Sunni Arab dictator Saddam Hussein.

President George W. Bush has named Iran a member of an "axis of evil" and accuses it of unlawfully seeking nuclear weapons.

Iraq's relations with Iran were tested earlier this year when Iraqi officials joined Washington in accusing Iran of providing funding and weapons for Shi'ite militias, which the Iraqi government was targeting in a crackdown.

Iran denies it supports the militias, and says the U.S. presence is responsible for fomenting violence in Iraq.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 15, 2008 9:36 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Peshmarga not withdrawing from Diala
There may be an eventual replacement, but not a "withdrawal," of Peshmarga forces.

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An announcement from the Iraqi Defense Ministry says that Peshmarga forces will be leaving Diala, but Kurdish and Iraqi army officials assure the opposite.

A high-ranking Iraqi army commander announced that both the army and Peshmarga forces are cooperating against insurgents.

"We came to Jalewla district and are now deployed in Qaratapa; we don't have any operation against the Peshmarga in our plans as [some] media report," confirmed Gen. Tariq Abdul-Wahab Jassim, commander of the Iraqi army's 1st division, during a visit to Jalewla district, northeast of Diala province.

Gen. Jassim ensured that there was tight cooperation between Kurdistan Peshmarga's 34th brigade and the Iraqi army 1st division's 4th brigade, both of which are currently deployed in the Qaratapa area. "Our cooperation is very good and there is no tension between us."

Gen. Nazim Kirkuki, commander of the Peshmarga's 34th brigade, met with an Iraqi army delegation to organize cooperation against gunmen in Jalewla, Sadiya, and Qaratapa.

"A few days ago, they [the Iraqi army] asked us to withdraw from the area. We replied that this is a political issue in the hands of the Kurdish leaders," said Gen. Kirkuki, who assured that Peshmarga forces will stay in the area and the Iraqi army will leave in a few days after their mission is complete.

Some local media outlets reported this week that there were simmering tensions between Peshmarga forces and the Iraqi army after Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammad Al-Askari said Peshmarga forces would be leaving.

"The Peshmarga forces that control areas in Diala province have shown acceptance today [Monday] to leave Khanaqin as the first step to be followed by withdrawals from other parts of Diala according to an agreement already held between the central government and the region," Al-Askari said.

Al-Askari then explained that the Iraqi army 4th brigade will ultimately replace the Peshmarga's 34th brigade in Khanaqin. "The constitution says that the Peshmarga forces should not exist outside Kurdistan Region?and Diala province is located under the control of the central government."

He said that the 34th brigade has completely cooperated with the Iraqi army in that area. "They withdraw because their national duty is over now," said Al-Askari, adding that they will call for the return of Peshmarga forces when they are in need.

However, Al-Askari's statements caused worry among Kurdish military and political officials.

Gen. Jabar Yawar, Peshmarga forces spokesperson, told the Kurdish daily Rozhnama that the withdrawal of the Peshmarga from those places will lead to deteriorating security and an increase in insurgent activities.

"Once they leave, the Peshmarga will not be allowed to return to those areas," said Ibrahim Bajalan, Diala provincial council head, "because Baghdad wants to recruit 5,000 elements into the army and police in the disputed areas of Diala province."

Meanwhile, nearly 52 heads of Kurdish, Arab, and Turkmen tribes in Jalewla and Qaratapa declined a decree of the Iraqi Interior to establish a new police directorate in Jalewla and to separate the district's security administration from Khanaqin town. The tribes demanded that the Peshmarga stay to protect them.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 15, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Demand increases on Iraqi dinars in Egypt with expectations of price rising
Demand increases on Iraqi dinars in Egypt with expectations of price rising
Translated by IRAQdirectory.com - [8/12/2008]


Egyptian banking market is currently in a state of struggle to buy the Iraqi dinar by some individuals in the hope of achieving profits by increasing expectations of an official price within two years at most in the repetition of the scenario occurred with the beginning of the Iraqi political and security crisis , and the issuance of new Iraqi dinars following the execution of former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, followed by the efforts of some people to buy Iraqi dinars to achieve substantial profits.

In this context, the parliamentarians addressed early warnings to the Egyptian government against what they branded the Iraqi dinar chaos in the market calling for the government, Dr. Mahmoud Mohieddin, the Minister of Investment and politically responsible for the banking market, the disclosure of the government's plan to cope with the expected chaos, which would cause heavy losses For individuals and exchange companies.

Especially since it was more likely, according to experts bankers, the Iraqi currency continues to deteriorate in light of indicators showing that the U.S. occupation will continue for yeas after Washington ruled out to withdraw its troops at the present time. The thousands of individuals have sought to collect the greatest possible of new Iraqi currency reached a price of 20 thousand Egyptian pounds for each one million Iraqi dinars, pending to the coming period if the price would rise in the banking market again.
(www.iraqdirectory.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 15, 2008 9:50 AM


cornishboy wrote:

The official British view of Basra: It's absolutely booming!

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Basra is transformed, say British commanders, but locals paint a different picture. Photograph: Essam al-Sudani/AFP/Getty Images
House prices have doubled in a matter of months. Restaurants are opening alongside the waterside corniche. Oil-rich Kuwaitis are beginning to move in, and trade at the port is booming.
Welcome to Basra.
This is the remarkably rosy picture of life in Iraq's second city outlined by a senior British military figure today.
Major General Barney White-Spunner, just returned from commanding British forces in southern Iraq, claims Basra has been transformed. Less than a year ago, British soldiers were being attacked day and night. A week ago, White-Spunner says, he was having supper in a restaurant on Basra's corniche by the Shatt al-Arab waterway.
"Property prices have more than doubled since March. One house is going for £90,000, a threefold increase," he says, referring to the now desirable stretch of the city's riverbank walkway. He talks of the "return of the diaspora", with Christians and Sunnis coming back to their Shia-dominated city. Soldiers from the new Iraqi national army had recently built a number of Sunni mosques. And it is not only Basrawis buying property - Kuwaitis and others are helping to push up prices.
"The UK is getting close to what we set out to achieve," White-Spunner says, referring to British forces training the Iraqi army's local 14th division and to the Iraqi navy which he describes as "doing a fantastic job".
Basra's port of Umm Qasr is "booming", he says. A total of 30 civilian flights a week now come in to Basra's international airport and 20 major international oil companies are planning to invest in the region.
The optimistic message is reflected in plans now being drawn up in the Ministry of Defence to cut the number of British troops in Basra from 4,000 to just a few hundred in the first half of next year.
The reason, British military officials say, is greater security. Security is now the main concern for just 7% of Basrawis, according to a recent poll conducted for the MoD. White-Spunner points to a recent statement by the radical shia cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, that his Mahdi army militia was no longer a military organisation.
"There is a view the militia is going to come back. It's not going to happen. We are not going to see parts of Basra going back to militia control," the British general says.
Attacks are still likely by special groups - a euphemism for Shia militia rebels - and by extremists and criminal gangs, he adds. But Iraqi security forces say there are no more than 1,500 of them and that they can cope with them without the help of foreign forces.
White-Spunner is also sanguine about Iran. Some elements there, he says referring to the Revolutionary Guards, are still smuggling weapons over the border to the "special groups", a practice he describes as despicable.
However, he adds: "In the long term, Iran wants a stable democracy in Iraq - a stable neighbour with a Shia majority. In the short term, it is totally legitimate that there is Iranian influence in southern Iraq, culturally and religious."
The message he wants to convey is that by next year, the Iraqi army and security forces will be able to maintain law and order in Basra and greater security will lead to economic development. Britain will maintain a military presence there after next year but it will be a group of a few hundred simply training Iraqi forces in such skills as command and control, and intelligence gathering.
It is an optimistic reading of life in Basra, but local Iraqis tell a different story. "The assassinations are back, especially in the last two weeks, just like before," journalist Abu Hend told the Guardian yesterday.
"Two men on a motorbike have been shooting people and five barbers have been killed in the last week alone. The militiamen and some of the commanders of the Mahdi army are still there. They don't carry weapons in public but they are still there. A few months ago if you wanted to import anything through the port you had to bribe the Mahdi army officials who controlled the port. Now the Iraqi army and the government are in control so you only bribe one official now. There is no work apart from collecting garbage. It doesn't matter if you are an engineer or a college graduate. And you have to bribe someone in the municipality to get work as a street sweeper."
For high school teacher Abu Mustafa, the main difference now is that Iraqi soldiers fill the streets instead of armed militiamen.
"The Mahdi army doesn't exist publicly but the killers and assassins are still there and people are still getting killed - though less than before. The militiamen are wearing government uniforms.
"The army raids remind us of what the Ba'athists and Saddam's mukhabarat [secret police] used to do. We thought that after Saddam we would be living in a new Iraq but the same system is back. For example, now the directorate of education is controlled by a new militia they've started replacing headteachers with their own men."
But for labourer Ali Khadem the situation has improved since the Iraqi army entered Basra. "There is less kidnapping and killing but the militiamen are still there though they are not armed in the streets. There are so many of them they can't arrest them. If they did they'd have to arrest half of Basra. If you are a state employee then life is good, but if you don't have a fixed salary then things are very hard."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/15/iraq.military

-- August 15, 2008 10:51 AM


Sara wrote:

Sorting through fact and opinion.
Don't judge the case by the messenger!
Just the facts, please.. plenty of which speak for themselves and attest to the truth..
Remember Rev. (Damn America) Wright? And Obama's voting record being the most left of any? These are FACTS.
It is valid to say he has associated with questionable radicals and voted radically.. in spite of this messenger plagarist.
We should look at substance, facts.. about a candidate, not the past lives and beliefs of other people like Jerome R. Corsi..
whose anti-Obama book was preceeded by his belief in impeaching President Bush/Cheney and 911 truthism.
Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.. as the Democrats are trying to make the public do.
The research is valid (and mostly plagarized from credible sources), in spite of what this man has believed.

Quote:

‘Truther’ Corsi: Impeach Bush/Cheney
From YouTube and our friend Jake Tapper at ABC News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJRYzuLehT8

Jerome R. Corsi Impeach Bush
Jerome R. Corsi speaking to a conference in Tulsa OK on stopping the NAFTA Super Hwy said President Bush and many others need to be impeached.

Democrats Seek to Undermine Anti-Obama Author With His Own Words
August 14, 2008

Today a full-blown Democratic campaign emerged to undermine one of the authors who helped destroy Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., in 2004.

The New York Times referred this week to author Jerome Corsi – author of a screed against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, “The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality,” which will debut on the New York Times best-seller list for nonfiction hard cover books this Sunday at No. 1 — as a “conservative gadfly.”

Based on some of Corsi’s previous writings, that’s probably one of the nicer terms for him.

And officials from the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee – aided by the Democratic activists at Media Matters – are doing everything they can to make the public aware of those words.

Beyond the questionable and disputed claims in Corsi’s anti-Obama book and the one Corsi co-authored in 2004, “Unfit for Command,” which sought to discredit Kerry’s Vietnam war service, Corsi has, as a poster on the conservative site freerepublic.com, made a number of comments that are pretty out there.

Writing as “jrlc,” Corsi wrote that maybe the Pope “can tell the UN what he’s going to do about the sexual crimes committed by ‘priests’ in his ‘Church’ during his tenure. Or, maybe that’s the connection — boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn’t reported by the liberal press.”

He also wrote that “this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the lawyers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that’s probably about it.”

He wrote of the Democratic Party that it’s “the official SODOMIZER PROTECTION ASSOCIATION of AMERICA” and of Arabs he wrote “RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters — it all goes together.” At another time he wrote “why it isn’t the case that Islam is a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion? Where’s the proof to the contrary?”

And of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, Corsi asked “Anybody ask why HELLary couldn’t keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?”

(We’ll see how many anti-Obama angry Clinton supporters embrace Corsi’s book regardless.)

As Politico noted this morning, Corsi “has left a trail of wild theories, vitriol and dogma that have called into question his credibility.”

Corsi told Politico, “I wrote those to be provocative and I said I would not use that kind of politically incorrect language again, and I don’t believe I have.”

Democrats seeking to discredit Corsi have pointed out that he’s made other interesting comments, such as in a January 29, 2008, interview with a conspiracy-minded radio host (listen here) when Corsi said the US government wasn’t telling the whole truth about what happened at the World Trade Center during 9/11. Corsi gives much credence to the claim by physicist Steven Jones who claims the towers exploded because of explosives inside the building.

“World Trade Center dust forms the iron sphere that can only be formed at extremely high temperatures,” Corsi said, “jet fuel doesn’t…The government’s explanation of the jet fuel fire is not a sufficient explanation to explain the evidence of these spheres – these microscopic spheres – that Steven Jones has proved existed within the WTC dust.” …

The DNC calls Corsi “too crazy even for Swiftboat liars,” noting that the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in September 2004 that “Jerome Corsi has dropped from the marketing” – of “Unfit for Command” – “because he has been revealed as the author of religiously bigoted remarks published on a Web site. Corsi not only considers Muslims to be pederasts, but he took the trouble to slam Catholic priests and refers to the pope as senile. Rather than wonder whether a book written by such a man can be trusted, the marketing tactic has shifted to pretend Corsi doesn’t exist.” …

===end quote==

Needless to say we hold no brief for Mr. Obama. We also detest the paid stooges at Media Matters.

And little or nothing in “Unfit For Duty” has been successfully challenged. But, as John O’Neil says, Mr. Corsi was not so much the co-author of that book as he was an editor.

(Though he probably did add a lot of the material in the book’s second half. Much of it lifted from researchers like yours truly.)

And it is likely that much of what appears in his latest tome is true, if not original to Mr. Corsi.

However, it is undeniable that Jerome Corsi is an opportunistic crackpot. He is also a plagiarist. (As I and others know from personal experience.)

As the article notes, Mr. Corsi has called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. He is also a “truther.”

Moreover, he has made a science out of scraping together other people’s work and marketing it as his own.

Corsi is the last person on earth who should be leading the charge against Obama.

It’s almost enough to make one suspect a conspiracy.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 15th.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/truther-corsi-impeach-bush-and-cheney

-- August 15, 2008 12:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Corsi's previous writings are not what is being scrutinized here.. Obama's record and life is.

The public should not get caught up in this straw man argument of destroying the messenger.. and ignore what the message about Obama is. He is a radical leftist by his voting record and does indeed associate with the most unsavory characters - and has the endorsement of terrorists such as the group Hamas. The facts in the book should not be discounted because of the previous writings of a person who cobbled together many of the facts and put them in a book.

Remember that personal attacks on the messenger is a straw man argument - attacking the messenger because they cannot attack the message. Listen to the message and facts.. the proof is there, in the words and deeds of Barack Hussein Obama. The person running for the Whitehouse is not Corsi.. but Obama. What has he done, how has he acted, who has he associated with, how has he voted? Facts please..

Again.. don't throw the baby facts out with the messenger bathwater.

Sara.

-- August 15, 2008 1:07 PM


Sara wrote:

I think we predicted on this board that it would come to this.. where absolutely ANYTHING you say against Obama means you are a racist and where they would say it must have been spoken only with a racist motive. This is definitely one very big reason he will not fly as President. The American people won't submit to being called racists when they know they are not. Americans who legitimately question his ability to be President, say, based on his incredible inexperience for the job.. (his job qualifications include only being a "community organizer" and not even completing one term in the Senate - lest you forget) such people know they are not questioning his qualifications for the job based on race. And such a slap in the face and insult to them will not go unnoticed when it comes time to vote. Hence the references given below include comments for illustration.

I will be suprised if they can get the American people to vote for him out of the sheer guilt that they are attempting to foist upon them, when they know they are not being racist in their remarks and critiques.

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Everything Said About Obama Is Racist
From Reuters:

RPT-When it comes to race, US politicians talk in code
Thu Aug 14, 2008
By Matthew Bigg

ATLANTA, Aug 14 (Reuters Life!) - The issue of race in U.S. politics is so sensitive and explosive that it has a language all its own. For outsiders, the code can be hard to break.

Indirect words, phrases and euphemisms have long been used to discuss race in the United States, and the subject has drawn more attention this election cycle because Democratic candidate Barack Obama is black.

Obama has been accused of making subtle references to race in to bid to manipulate sentiment, most recently by saying he would look different than other U.S. presidents.

At the same time, references to his alleged “inexperience” as a one-term U.S. senator and perceived “arrogance” on a trip to Europe and the Middle East last month could also be seen as subtle racial digs, political commentators say.

Inexperience might be a substitute for an idea with roots in the era of U.S. slavery that African Americans couldn’t be trusted, while arrogance can be a way of suggesting that black people are “uppity” or above their station, they said.

“The issue (of race) is there in political campaigns and not just this one. People talk in code. It is the 800-pound gorilla in the room that is ignored by mutual agreement so it never gets dealt with head on,” said Andrew Taylor, professor of political science at North Carolina State University.

Understanding that code can be difficult, but Taylor said it was common because discussions about race in public forums in America were fraught with pitfalls.

“It is very difficult to have a frank conversation about race. Even when you tiptoe around the periphery it … (can) degenerate into a shouting match,” he said…

An advertisement run by McCain’s campaign this month, which portrayed Obama as a celebrity who was not ready to lead, sent a subtle racial message by flashing images of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, according to Ronald Walters, professor of politics at the University of Maryland.

Walters said the ad played on deep cultural fears about inter-racial dating and marriage, which was illegal until the 1960s in some U.S. states.

“The code is used to remind people that the opponent is black. One of the reasons why people talk about it in muted terms is because it’s an old racial taboo particularly … in the South,” he said.

At the same time, many people object to language which can be construed as playing on white guilt.

When Obama told an audience last month he would look different as president to his predecessors, some of whom are on U.S. currency, McCain’s campaign said he had “played the race card and he played it from the bottom of the deck.”

Both sides denied they were attempting to exploit race and neither explained exactly how the other side’s words were racially loaded. Instead, they left the media — and voters — to decipher what they meant.

==end quote==

Well, that settles it then.

Let’s not talk about him at all.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 15th.

Comments:

1) studmuffin

Wow, there are so many things wrong with this article.

“Alleged inexperience?” How about “actual, obvious inexperience?”

I’ve forgotten who said it, but some democrat in Congress said that white people used to use words like “spic” or “nigger,” but now the new epithets were “tax cuts.” With analysis like that, he could be a journalist!

2) U NO HOO

Yeah, “some democrat in Congress.” I think it was Charlee Rangel. Words like “business suit” imply white superiority. WE ALL DON’T WEAR “HOODS” NO MO’.

3) sheehanjihad

What is a “professor of politics?”.

someone who hasnt got a snowball’s chance in hell of becoming a professor in a legitimate and recognized discipline of higher education.

Someone who believes that global warming is real.

Someone who believes B. Hussein Obama is qualified to be president.

Someone who discovered quite early that people will believe anything as long as you say it often enough.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/everything-said-about-obama-is-racist

-- August 15, 2008 4:42 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

So.... has the reval happened today??? I read a few posts that stated that it was expected to happen on this very day.

BritishKnite.

-- August 15, 2008 5:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Gallup Daily: McCain, Obama Tied at 44%
Obama’s support down slightly
August 15, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- If the election were held today, registered voters would be equally likely to vote for John McCain (44%) or Barack Obama (44%), according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update.

The Aug. 12-14 polling shows a slight dip in Obama's support, thus, the closer margin seen in today's results is due more to movement away from Obama than toward McCain. Twelve percent of registered voters now say they are undecided or supporting another candidate, which is on the high end of what Gallup has measured this year.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109564/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Obama-Tied-44.aspx

-- August 15, 2008 5:23 PM


Sara wrote:

BritishKnite;

I would be pleased to see the RV anytime. :)
I am watching for it.. nothing in the news yet.
I heard those rumors, too. Pretty late for it to happen now.

It reminds me of Carole's post about the Dinar where she spoke about "the nature of the beast" and said its, "like shooting at a moving target moving vertically, horizontally, zigzaggidly, reversidly, etc.... Just about the time the Dinar and all of the appendages associated with it SEEM to be lining up, giving some hope of predictability, it spins OFF THE PLANET, becoming the crazy moving target again."

Hence I am keeping an eye on the more long term expectation, and that means Obama and McCain figure into whether our Dinar will eventually have greater worth.. by what actions they take after the elections are over. Stabilizing Iraq will cause a return on our investment, removing from Iraq precipitously will not. As you know, Obama ONCE said Iraq is a "distraction" to the real war on terror and said that he will pull out without talking to commanders on the ground and in such a rush that the heavy equipment would be left strewn across the battlefield.. but he reverses his stands so much, I am not sure where he is on these questions now. Who knows what he would do if he got in.. the first thing he said, the second.. or a new thing which seemed good to him at that point in time. As I once posted, I think we shouldn't put into the Whitehouse someone with "shoulder angels" in the first place.

McCain's newest ad about Obama and taxes is worth a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tZQRXTrRKs

Related to this, Ed Morrissey posted, "How worried has Obama become on this front? Worried enough to flip-flop on taxes, or at least serve a healthy dish of waffles. James Pethokoukis noted this yesterday at US News"
QUOTE:

This is a pretty big change for Obamanomics. Economic advisers Austan Goolsbee and Jason Furman, in today’s Wall Street Journal, now say that Barack Obama’s tax plan will do the following:

1) It will increase capital gains and dividend tax rates, to 20 percent, only for families making over $250,000. Before, Obama was hinting at rates as high as 28 percent for everyone.

2) On the issue of the Social Security income cap, he’s now considering a plan that would make folks earning over $250,000 pay in the range of 2 to 4 percentage points more in total (combined employer and employee) payroll taxes. Previously, there were hints at increases of from 6 percent to 12 percentage points.

(end quote)

Pethokoukis thinks this change is both smart and dumb, the latter for opening Obama to charges of flip-flopping again. It looks more like a waffle, but the real effect is to undermine any certainty at all about Obama’s intentions on tax policy. Will he stick to his word now, or go back to his original plans once in office? I don’t know, and neither does anyone else now.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/15/new-mccain-ad-taxman/

The stance with Iraq is the same.. Obama has said so many opposing things about Iraq.. which one can we believe? What would he actually DO about Iraq? And our investment is on the line here.. but what of the Iraqi people.. this is a bit more to them than a financial investment. Their LIVES are at stake. Crazy, actually.

Sara.

-- August 15, 2008 5:56 PM


Sara wrote:

NYT: McCain demonstrates leadership while Obama vacations
August 15, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The New York Times notices that a completely predictable reversal has taken place between Barack Obama, John McCain, and media coverage. Two weeks ago, the national media followed Obama devotedly as he toured Europe, straining to capture every word on what they considered a historic event. Now, though, the media has awakened to truly historical events in the Caucasus, and McCain has commanded their attention with his leadership — while Obama hides in Hawaii:
QUOTE:

For the last several days, Senator Barack Obama has seemed to fade from the scene while on his secluded vacation here, as his opponent, Senator John McCain, has seized nearly every opportunity to display his foreign policy credentials on the dominant issue of the week: the conflict between Russia and Georgia.

Only once, at the beginning of the week, did Mr. Obama discuss the fighting in public, when he emerged from his beachfront rental home to condemn Russia’s escalation, in a way that seemed timed for the evening television news. He took no questions whose answers might demonstrate command of the issue.

Mr. McCain and his surrogates, however, have discussed the situation nearly every day on the campaign trail, often taking a hard line against Russia to the point of his declaring the other day, “We are all Georgians.”

It is as if the candidates’ images have been reversed within a matter of a few weeks. When Mr. Obama was overseas last month, Mr. McCain’s foreign policy bona fides seemed diminished, if only because he could not attract the news media attention received by Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. Now, Mr. Obama’s voice seems muted at a time when much of the world has been worriedly watching the conflict.

==end quote==

Team Obama tries to spin this as a quiet engagement on Obama’s part. They claim that he has been in constant contact with his team of foreign-policy advisers while vacationing on the islands. Those advisers, though, can’t agree among themselves, as Susan Rice and Richard Holbrooke demonstrated when they alternately criticized McCain’s approach and then bragged of having the same policy.

McCain spent the week leading the American response in a real way, forcing the White House to catch up. Obama spent the week … body surfing and golfing. For a candidate who already has a confidence deficit on national security and foreign policy among voters, Obama seems strangely disengaged on what is the most critical and emergent foreign-policy issue of the campaign. He has taken a strangely passive path, and the contradictory statements by his surrogates have made Obama seem even more vacillating than usual.

Most interestingly, the media has finally started to notice. Michael Falcone’s article acknowledges McCain’s superior performance, an acknowledgment that finds its basis in McCain’s experiential advantage. The media has flocked to McCain for answers on a genuine foreign-policy issue, and more or less abandoned Obama and his team. He has become almost irrelevant in the Georgian crisis, made so by his own abandonment of the field.

It’s an interesting and revealing parallel to the kind of media frenzy Obama attracted in Europe but did nothing to earn. McCain has earned the attention for being prescient and informed on the crisis in Georgia and the nature of Russia. The former is the attraction of celebrity, and the latter the attraction of leadership, and American just got an object lesson in the differences between the two.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/15/nyt-mccain-demonstrates-leadership-while-obama-vacations/

-- August 15, 2008 6:09 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I wanted to throw open a question about the situation in Georgia. I have now heard this story from two sources of whom both are american's who were or currently in Georgia at the time of the Russian advance. One source was an american living in Georgia at the time of the military action. This individual stated that the fault of the conflict belongs to the Georgia government and the american's for backing the Georgia president. He stated that Georgia troops attacked and burned people in their homes in the location of South Ossetia. Georgia started the war and the Russians simply came and defended the people from being killed.

Another american visitor was from California and appeared on (either CNN or Fox News). This 12 year old girl was visiting family in Georgia and she stated the Georgia government attacked the citizens in South Ossetia. She escaped through the Russian lines with her relatives. She stated that Georgia attacked with bombs from their military and her relatives took her to a cellar until they thought it was safe enough to escape through the Russian troops defending the city from the Georgia government.

I am wondering if the USA is on the right side in this situation with Russia. I know we (the USA have a bunch of economic interests with this oil pipeline and all) but, I am wondering if we maybe dealing with a situation simpliar to when Israel responded to provocations from Lebanon. If you remember right, the USA let Israel attack and attack beyond proportion for their border breaches. Our country did not interfer in that military situation (or at least it was a deliberate delayed response). My point is that Russia may have militarily responded the same way to Georgia because of real grievances of the South Ossetia citizens as the claim.

In any case, how did Russia turn out to be a peace keeping force for the South Ossetian's an Abkhazian's country? Anyone know?

I know that Russia has cut off oil pipeline supply lanes and I am sure this is deliberate. One wonders if anyone will be able to get the Russians out with the use of military force or if a political solution can be worked out to get the Russians to withdraw.

Any thoughts the above american eye witness reports and what should we do about these items.

Laura Parker

-- August 15, 2008 10:48 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Georgia. It seems to confirm that Georgia started this fight.

The vulnerabilities that lie behind Putin’s belligerence
by Philip Stephens
Published: August 14 2008 19:19 | Last updated: August 14 2008 19:19

Some time ago when the Kremlin distributed photographs of a shirtless Vladimir Putin brandishing a hunting rifle the temptation was to snigger. Another middle-aged man; another mid-life crisis. Alas, this week’s invasion of Georgia has confirmed that the Russian prime minister’s swagger was indeed a metaphor for his government’s foreign policy.
The argument about who started the latest war in the Caucasus will doubtless continue for some time. The Russian-backed separatists of the breakaway province of South Ossetia were engaged in a continuous strategy of provocation; and Georgia’s Mikheil Saakashvili badly miscalculated in thinking he could reclaim the province by force. The hot-headed Mr Saakashvili is no innocent in this grim affair.
Yet the precise casus belli has been rendered irrelevant by the manner and scale of Moscow’s response. If there were ever any doubts about Mr Putin’s plan to re-establish hegemony over the former Soviet space, they were dispelled by the ferocity of Russia’s assault.
Mr Putin and his colleagues go through the motions of denying it but the self-evident aim is to annex Georgia to Russia’s sphere of influence. Mr Saakashvili has never accorded Mr Putin the respect the Russian leader assumes is his due. A government in Tbilisi paying homage to Moscow would assure it monopoly control of Caspian oil and gas.
The message for Mr Putin’s apologists in Europe – why does Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi always spring so readily to mind? – could not be clearer. Mr Putin’s worldview has no place for the post-modern approach to international relations of his western neighbours. Europe stands for a global order based on co-operative norms and rules. Moscow prefers the use of force. Appeasement invites only further contempt.
Much has been said during the past few days of the striking parallels with the behaviour of the great powers during the 19th century. But there are plenty of unappealing echoes too of some of the more dismal moments of the 20th century.
Mr Putin cites a duty to protect Russian citizens (Moscow has been handing out passports in South Ossetia and the other breakaway province of Abkhazia for some time). Hitler used a similar pretext. Likewise the talk from the Kremlin of saving Georgians from a misguided leadership comes straight from the script written by Brezhnev. Did not the Soviets march into Prague in 1968 in order to liberate Czechoslovakia?
One intended implication, of course, is that Russia reserves the right to intervene on behalf of its citizens in Ukraine, in the Baltic states and in former Soviet republics in central Asia. Force, or the threat of it, sits alongside dominance of Europe’s oil and gas market as a supposedly legitimate instrument of Russia’s regional hegemony.
We should not be surprised. Mr Putin’s bare-chested vanity has scarcely been the only clue to his intentions. Not so long ago Mr Putin threatened to target Russia’s nuclear arsenal on Ukraine if that country persisted, alongside Georgia, with its effort to join the Nato alliance. Moscow has waged cyber-war against the Baltic states. Gazprom routinely disrupts gas supplies to former communist states that earn the Kremlin’s disfavour.
There were some hopes that Dmitry Medvedev’s elevation to the presidency would temper Mr Putin’s belligerence. Instead we have seen the hapless Mr Medvedev in the role of a finger-puppet tucked into the prime minister’s breast pocket – taken out from time to time only to affirm the reasonableness of his master.
Many in the west seem to think there is nothing to be done. Authoritarianism is back in fashion and Russia’s return as a great power is one of the ineluctable geopolitical trends of the 21st century. The west must adjust to the reality, ceding the ground that Mr Putin seeks.
This analysis misses one of the paradoxes of Russia’s power. The riches and political leverage provided by gas and oil have restored Russia’s economic and geopolitical standing. Yet, for the medium and long term, almost all the other indicators point to a future of relative decline.
Low fertility and high mortality rates hold the prospect of a fast-shrinking population in a country where vast tracts of territory are already empty. Demographers estimate that the present Russian population of about 140m will fall by about 10m within a decade or so. By 2020 Moscow will struggle to find sufficient recruits to maintain its conscript army.
Demographic decline is mirrored by crumbling health and education systems and by decaying civil infrastructure. Corruption is rife. The present political leadership is better described as a kleptocracy than an autocracy. Vast amounts of Russia’s wealth are being siphoned off in bank accounts abroad rather than reinvested at home.
The price of Mr Putin’s aggressive nationalism has been to starve the oil and gas industry of foreign technology and investment. In spite of the emergence of a Russian middle class, there are few signs that the petro windfall is being used to broaden and deepen Russian prosperity.
The second paradox concerns Mr Putin’s deep sense of grievance against the west. For all the talk that the US and Europe conspired in Russia’s humiliation after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the strategic threats facing Moscow lie elsewhere: in unresolved border disputes with a resurgent China in the depopulated far east and in Russia’s own separatist movements in the south.
They may share an authoritarian political instinct, but all logic says that Moscow and Beijing are more naturally strategic rivals than partners. Mr Putin’s support for separatism in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, meanwhile, sends a curious message to those in Chechnya and elsewhere on Russia’s southern border who want to be free of Moscow’s rule.
None of this, many will say, is of much help in resolving the crisis. If Europe’s impotence has been long apparent, the invasion of Georgia has also humiliated the US. Washington’s protestations have been brushed aside by Mr Putin almost as flea bites.
It will not always be so. Longer term, the west’s strategic response should be guided by a clear-sighted appreciation of Russia’s weaknesses as well as its strengths. There will come a time when Moscow itself badly needs the shelter of the international order Mr Putin now so visibly disdains. The US and Europe should not seek confrontation with Russia; but nor should they retreat when Mr Putin brandishes his gun.

Laura Parker

-- August 15, 2008 11:20 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article on Georgia.

From The TimesAugust 15, 2008

Georgia: Europe wins a gold medal for defeatism
Sarkozy's ‘peace in our time' deal is a reminder of what could happen if the EU wins more cloutGerard Baker
To some, China's muscular domination of the Olympic medal table is a powerful allegory of the shifting balance of global power. A far better and more literal testimony to the collapse of the West may be seen in the distinctly weak-kneed response to Russian aggression in Georgia by what is still amusingly called the transatlantic alliance.

Once again, the Europeans, and their friends in the pusillanimous wing of the US Left, have demonstrated that, when it come to those postmodern Olympian sports of synchronized self-loathing, team hand-wringing and lightweight posturing, they know how to sweep gold, silver and bronze.

There's a routine now whenever some unspeakable act of aggression is visited upon us or our allies by murderous fanatics or authoritarian regimes. While the enemy takes a victory lap, we compete in a shameful medley relay of apologetics, defeatism and surrender.

The initial reaction is almost always self-blame and an expression of sympathetic explanation for the aggressor's actions. In the Russian case this week, the conventional wisdom is that Moscow was provoked by the hot-headed President Saakashvili of Georgia. It was really all his fault, we are told.


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What's more, the argument goes, the US and Europe had already laid the moral framework for Russia's invasion by our own acts of aggression in the past decade. Vladimir Putin was simply following the example of illegal intervention by the US and its allies in Kosovo and Iraq.

It ought not to be necessary to point out the differences between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Mr Saakashvili's Georgia, but for those blinded by moral relativism, here goes - Georgia did not invade its neighbours or use chemical weapons on their people. Georgia did not torture and murder hundreds of thousands of its own citizens. Georgia did not defy international demands for a decade and ignore 18 UN Security Council resolutions to come clean about its weapons programmes.

And unlike Iraq under Saddam, Georgia is led by a democratically elected president who has pushed this once dank backwater of the Soviet Union, birthplace of Stalin and Beria, towards liberal democracy and international engagement.

The Kosovo analogy has a more resonant ring of plausibility to it and has been heavily exploited by the Russians in defence of their actions. But it too is specious. It is true that South Ossetia and Abkhazia, like Kosovo within Serbia, are ethnic-minority-majority regions within a state that they dislike. But that's where the parallel ends.

Unlike Serbia, Georgia has not been conducting a campaign of “ethnic cleansing” against the people of these provinces. In the 1990s Serbia had firmly established its aggressive intentions towards its minorities with ugly genocidal wars against Croatia and Bosnia. And in any case the two Georgian enclaves have been patrolled by Russian “peacekeepers” for the past 15 years.

We need to be morally clear about what is going on in Georgia. Perhaps Mr Saakashvili was a little reckless in seeking to stamp out the separatist guerrillas. But to suggest that he somehow got what he deserved is tantamount to saying that a woman who dresses in a miniskirt and high heels and gets drunk in a bar one night is asking to be raped.

If shifting moral blame won't relieve us of our responsibilities then surely defeatism will. Whoever is right or wrong, the critics say, we can't do anything about it. In the past week, the familiar parade of clichés has been rolled out to explain why it is all hopeless. The Russian bear, pumped up by all that oil wealth, is reasserting power in its own backyard. The US and Europe, their energy sapped by endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, can only stand by and watch.

There's something odd about listening to European governments speak about the futility of diplomacy. They are the ones who usually insist that military force alone can achieve little and who say that diplomacy must be given a chance. But now they seem to say that, since we can't stop Russia militarily, there is nothing else we can do.

But we can make life very uncomfortable for Mr Putin. Russia is not the Soviet Union. Its recent (relative) prosperity depends on its continuing integration into the global economy. It sets great store by the recognition that it gains from a seat at the high table with the great powers in the G8. It wants to elevate that status farther by joining the World Trade Organisation and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Punitive measures will hurt us too, of course: Russia could cause trouble over Iran and holds an alarmingly large quantity of US official debt. It could play havoc with the West's energy supplies.

The Europeans don't much like the idea of any of this. So this week they demonstrated the same sort of resolve that they showed in the Balkans in the early 1990s, when they stood by as genocide unfolded on their own continent.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, in his capacity as head pro tempore of the EU, came back from a trip to Moscow and Tbilisi, waving a piece of paper and acclaiming peace in our time.

But the one-sided ceasefire that he negotiated was more or less dictated to him by Mr Putin. It not only left the Russian military in place in the disputed enclaves. It allowed them free rein to continue operations inside the rest of Georgia.

That disastrous piece of European diplomacy finally seems to have stirred the US into tougher action. Goaded by John McCain, who has been brilliantly resolute in his measure of Russian intentions over the past few years, the Bush Administration at last dropped its credulous embrace of Mr Putin and upped the ante with direct military assistance to Georgia and threats of tougher diplomatic action.

But we should never forget what Mr Sarkozy and his EU officials got up to this week. There can be no clearer indication of the perils that threaten the West if the EU gets its way and wins more clout in the world.

This, remember, is the same EU that wants to take over foreign and security policy from member states, an institution that is always eager to pump itself up at the expense of democratic institutions in those member states, but which crumbles into puny submission when faced with authoritarian bullying overseas.

It was a great Frenchman, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, who founded the modern Olympic movement on the famous principle that “the important thing is not winning but taking part”.

The EU today seems to have adapted that slogan to fit its own desired global role - the important thing is taking part and not winning.

Laura Parker

-- August 15, 2008 11:50 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

From Prospect Magazine:

That George W Bush's foreign policy has been a total failure is now taken for granted by so many people that one usually hears it stated as a simple truth that need not be argued at all.

It has happened before. When President Harry S Truman said in March 1952 that he would not seek re-election, most Americans could agree on one thing: that his foreign policy had been a catastrophic failure. In Korea his indecision had invited aggression, and then his incompetence had cost the lives of some 54,000 Americans and millions of Korean civilians in just two years of fighting—on both counts more than ten times the number of casualties in Iraq. Right-wingers reviled Truman for having lost China to communism and for his dismissal of the great General Douglas MacArthur, who had wanted to win it back, with nukes if necessary. Liberals despised Truman because he was the failed shopkeeper who had usurped the patrician Franklin Roosevelt's White House—liberals always were the snobs of US politics.

Abroad, Truman was widely hated too. The communist accusation that he had waged "bacteriological warfare" to kill Korean children and destroy Chinese crops was believed by many, and was fully endorsed by a 669-page report issued by a commission chaired by the eminent British biochemist Joseph Needham. Even more people believed that Truman was guilty of having started the cold war by trying to intimidate our brave Soviet ally, or at least that he and Stalin were equally to blame.

How did this same Harry Truman come to be universally viewed as a great president, especially for his foreign policy? It is all a question of time perspectives: the Korean war is half forgotten, while everyone now knows that Truman's strategy of containment was successful and finally ended with the almost peaceful disintegration of the Soviet empire.

For Bush to be recognised as a great president in the Truman mould, the Iraq war too must become half forgotten. The swift removal of the murderous Saddam Hussein was followed by years of expensive violence instead of the instant democracy that had been promised. To confuse the imam-ridden Iraqis with Danes or Norwegians under German occupation, ready to return to democracy as soon as they were liberated, was not a forgivable error: before invading a country, a US president is supposed to know if it is in the middle east or Scandinavia.

Yet the costly Iraq war must also be recognised as a sideshow in the Bush global counteroffensive against Islamist militancy, just as the far more costly Korean war was a sideshow to global cold war containment. For the Bush response to 9/11 was precisely that—a global attack against the ideology of Islamic militancy. While anti-terrorist operations have been successful here and there in a patchy way, and the fate of Afghanistan remains in doubt, the far more important ideological war has ended with a spectacular global victory for President Bush.

Of course, the analogy with Truman is far from perfect: the Soviet Union was a state, not a state of mind. But even so, once Bush's victory is recognised, the errors of Iraq will be forgiven, just as nobody now blames Truman for having sent mixed signals on whether Korea would be defended. Of course, the Bush victory has not yet been recognised, which is very odd indeed because it has all happened in full view.

Until 9/11, Islamic militants, including violent jihadists of every sort, from al Qaeda to purely local outfits, enjoyed much public support—either overt or tacit—across most of the Muslim world. From Morocco to Indonesia, governments appeased militants at home while encouraging them to focus their violent activities abroad. Some, like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) funded both militant preachers and armed jihadists. The Saudis financed extremist schools in many countries, including the US and Britain, and had thousands of militant preachers on the payroll in addition to writing cheques for jihadists in the Caucasus, Pakistan and a dozen other places (although not to Osama bin Laden himself, their declared enemy). The UAE rulers who now talk only of their airlines and banks are reliably reported to have handed over sackfuls of cash to Osama in person, meeting him at Kandahar's airfield when flying in to hunt endangered species. Saudi Arabia and the UAE were also the only countries that joined Pakistan in recognising the Taliban as the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan. Other Muslim governments, notably Sudan, Syria and Yemen, helped jihadists by giving them passports and safe havens, while others still, including Indonesia, simply turned a blind eye to Islamist indoctrination and jihadist recruitment.

Other than the Algerian and Egyptian governments, every Muslim state preferred at least to coexist with militant preachers and jihadis in some way. Pakistan did much more than that; its Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, funded, armed and trained both the Taliban in Afghanistan and thousands of jihadists dedicated to killing Indian civilians, policemen and soldiers in Kashmir and beyond.

All this came to an abrupt end after 9/11. Sophisticates everywhere ridiculed the uncompromising Bush stance, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists," as a cowboy stunt, but it was swiftly successful. Governments across the Muslim world quickly changed their conduct. Some moved energetically to close down local jihadist groups they had long tolerated, to silence extremist preachers and to keep out foreign jihadis they had previously welcomed. Others were initially in denial. The Saudis, in the person of interior minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, started off by denying that the 9/11 terrorists were Arabs, let alone Saudis, while the UAE princes accused of giving cash to Bin Laden pretended they had never heard of him.

Denial did not last. As they saw American special forces and long-range bombers smashing the Taliban, the Saudis began to admit responsibility for having spread extremism through the thousands of schools and academies they financed at home and abroad. An agonising reappraisal of their own Wahhabi form of Islam continues. The Saudi king has convened an inter-faith conference of Muslims, Christians and Jews—a huge step given the Wahhabi prohibitions of any form of amity with non-Muslims. Inside the kingdom, only less extreme preachers now receive public support. Bin Laden had been the Saudis' enemy for years, but it was only after 9/11 that they began actively to hunt down his supporters and made their first moves to discourage rich Saudis from sending money to jihadists abroad. More than a thousand Saudis have been arrested, dozens have been killed while resisting arrest, and Saudi banks must now check if wire transfers are being sent to Muslim organisations on the terrorist list.

In different ways, other governments in Muslim countries all the way to Indonesia also took their stand with Bush and the US against the jihadists, even though jihad against the infidel is widely regarded as an Islamic duty. Suddenly, active Islamists and violent jihadists suffered a catastrophic loss of status. Instead of being admired, respected or at least tolerated, they had to hide, flee or give it up. Numbers started to shrink. The number of terrorist incidents outside the war zones of Afghanistan and Iraq keeps going down, while madrassas almost everywhere have preferred toning down their teachings to being shut down. In Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, the dominant association of imams condemns all forms of violence without exception.

But it was in Pakistan that Bush forced the most dramatic reversal of policy. He had said that it was with us or against us, and he meant it. President Musharraf was given a stark choice: stand with the US to destroy the Taliban that Pakistan itself had created, or be destroyed. Musharraf made the right choice, shutting down the flow of arms to the Taliban, opening the Shahbaz airfield to US aircraft and giving blanket permission for US military overflights across Pakistan. Nothing will stop the North-West Frontier Province from being as violent as it has been since the days of Alexander the Great. Nothing can dissuade the Pashtuns from their twin passions for boys and guns. And naturally they approve of the Taliban on both counts. But at least the Pakistani state is no longer funding these pederasts. Musharraf also started to remove the bearded extremists who once practically ran Pakistan's ISI, starting with the chief, Mahmood Ahmed, who was replaced within a month of 11th September by the moderate Ehsanul Halqas. It has been less easy for Musharraf and his acolytes to identify and remove the more subtle smooth-shaven extremists in the ISI, who still support the renascent Taliban, but they tried hard enough to trigger at least one of the assassination attempts against Musharraf himself.

What happened in Pakistan within 24 hours of 9/11 was something the world had never seen before: the overnight transformation of the very core of a country's policy—the support of jihad—which derived from the national myth of Pakistan as the Muslim state par excellence. It was as if President Bush had sent an envoy to Italy to demand the outlawing of spaghetti al pomodoro—and succeeded.

Yet one hears well-informed people casually remark that Bush's war on terror has been a total failure. This is not just political prejudice; after all, the dog that does not bark is not heard. But one need not be Sherlock Holmes to recall that 11th September was meant to be the beginning of a global jihad, with a 12th September, 13th September, 14th September and so on.

Not that al Qaeda itself could do it—its one shot had been fired. But the destruction of the twin towers inspired thousands of young Muslims to go down to the local Islamist prayer hall to offer their services to jihadists. The Koran, after all, explicitly promises victory in all things to the believers, making Muslim weakness the source of agonising, if unspoken, doubts about the credibility of the faith itself. That is the true source of the resentment that no policy accommodations in the middle east could possibly assuage. And it was those doubts that induced not only the hapless Palestinians but even westernised, affluent, wine-drinking Tunisians to celebrate the television images of 9/11 with tears of joy, and that of course made Bin Laden the first pan-Islamic hero since Saladin.

The destruction of the twin towers was therefore the most powerful possible call to action. It was quite enough to trigger not just a Madrid, a London or a Glasgow attack, but many more in Europe alone. The main target, however, was bound to be the US itself, as well as American tourists, expatriates, business residents and, naturally, any troops anywhere.

Instead, the global jihadi mobilisation, triggered by post-9/11 enthusiasm for Osama bin Laden, was stopped before it could gain any momentum by all that Bush set in motion: the destruction of al Qaeda training bases in Afghanistan, the killing or capture of most of its operatives, and, most importantly, the conversion of Muslim governments from the support of jihad to its repression.

Jihadism has been largely confined to Iraq and the border zones of Pakistan, where guns are fashion statements and jihad the latest excuse for millennial violence. By contrast, since 9/11, attacks against western ("Christian") targets have been few, with not a single attack in the US and just a handful in Europe. It would not have been so if a less determined, less self-confident president had been in the White House. "You are with us or with the terrorists" was the right slogan and the right policy. The post-victory shambles in Iraq is a sideshow by comparison.

Bush's detractors must also contend with another great success: denuclearisation. It started with Libya, which in 2003, in fear of what Bush might do, surrendered all the equipment it had bought to make nuclear weapons. Then there is Syria, which lost its secret proto-nuclear reactor to a strike by the Israeli air force last September—a move made with Bush's approval. The demolition of North Korea's nuclear programme has finally started. It may continue to full denuclearisation if Bush's successor keeps up the pressure. And most recently, the direct engagement of the US with Iran's nuclear programme has started. As usual, European diplomacy failed completely. While the E-3—Britain, France, Germany—continued to talk, the Iranians continued to build, and later publicly boasted that they had tricked the Europeans. Now matters are coming to a close. Bush has sent his own trusted envoy to offer generous incentives to the Iranians to stop enriching uranium and demolish a few installations. That is exactly what the E-3 offered. The difference is that there was no Bush involved, hence no credibility to the implied "or else."

Bush may yet decide that it is unfair to leave the problem to his successor, or to the Israelis, who would have to fly 1,000 nautical miles to Iran instead of less than 200 from carriers in the Persian Gulf. After all, Bush has been the great denucleariser, not least in Iraq, in spite of the misleading postwar controversy. Saddam's plan was to revive his nuclear programme in 2004 after the end of the UN embargo. Without the war there might now be an Iraqi nuclear programme to deal with, not just an Iranian one.

-- August 16, 2008 12:07 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura, I'm guessing that besides making America look bad, Russia is looking for something from America, some sort of guarantee, behind the scene, and then they will withdraw....Maybe a cut of the deal in Iraq, of limits to NATO expansion. I don't believe all this new Cold War stuff on the news. Russia is a loser country, except for energy, like oil and gas.

-- August 16, 2008 9:46 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Georgia.

Back-door US-Russian contacts to de-escalate war of words - after Moscow threatens to nuke Poland
DEBKAfile Special Report and Analysis
August 16, 2008, 5:34 PM (GMT+02:00)

Russia's Dep. Chief of Staff Anatoly Nogovitsyn raises the tone of threats
DEBKAfile reports that both powers have begun acting to cool the rhetoric and review relations, after spokesmen in Washington - and especially Moscow - raised the threat level of their oratory to its highest pitch since the Cold War’s end.
Friday night, Aug. 15, Russia’s deputy chief of staff Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned Poland it was “exposing itself to a strike 100 percent.”
He said any new US assets in Europe could come under Russian nuclear attack. Russian forces would target “the allies of countries having nuclear weapons” to destroy them “as a first priority,” said Gen. Nogovitsyn.
At the Black Sea resort of Sochi, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev dismissed the claim that the US missile interceptors in Poland were a deterrent against rogue states like Iran as “a fairy tale,” insisting they were aimed against Russia. Warsaw, which will receive 10 batteries in return for American aid to boost its air defenses, later invited Russia to visit the site and see for itself.
President George W. Bush said "The Cold War is over… Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century."
He said Russia’s invasion of Georgia had damaged its credibility and the US stands with the people of Georgia and called for the withdrawal of “invading forces from all Georgian territory.”
Russian and Georgian presidents have both signed the ceasefire brokered by France. But Russian troops and tanks and marauding irregulars in the areas under their control had still not left Georgia by Saturday Saturday. Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said extra security arrangements needed to be put in place before a withdrawal could begin, in defiance of US demand that Russian troops leave immediately.
After meeting German chancellor Angela Merkel, Medvedev said he could not see South Ossetia and Abkhazia living with Georgia in one state.”
US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice persuaded Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili to sign on the dotted line Friday night. DEBKAfile’s political sources report that, as in most cases when international tensions and violence reach dangerous levels, the big powers have instituted secret diplomacy to cool the situation before it gets out of hand in order to formulate new modes of conduct and relations.
This process began with Rice’s visit to France and Tbilsi.
In five hours of arm-twisting, she persuaded Saakashvili to accept clarifications to the ceasefire accord which contradict Washington’s spirited assurances for Georgia’s “territorial integrity.”
Russian troops allowed to remain in Georgia would be “very limited to a light patrolling ability, such as a few kilometers outside of South Ossetia, not the right to maintain a presence inside Georgia.”
Furthermore, “Russian peacekeepers” would be allowed to “implement additional security measures” until international security can be put in place.
This clause authorizes on behalf of the US and Europe the narrow security strips, which DEBKAfile’s military sources revealed two days ago the Russians are establishing 300-500 meters deep outside the South Ossetian and Abkhazian borders with Georgia.
This American concession was designed as initial impetus for quiet diplomacy with Russia on a settlement in Georgia.
The other concession, which will unfold in time, is the removal of the Georgian president, another of Moscow’s conditions for ending the crisis. It is hard to see Saakasvhili surviving the outcry at home when the extent of his military and diplomatic failures is revealed to his people.
Furthermore, his highly charged speech Friday was watched with pursed lips by Condoleezza Rice and clearly embarrassed his sponsors in Washington. While Bush declared the Cold War is over, Saakashvili heaped verbal coals on the standoff with Russia to keep it ablaze.

Laura Parker

-- August 16, 2008 7:26 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

An article from Voices of Iraq was printed in Iraq's Updates. I wanted to know why they say "Iraq lacks flexible rules for open market economy...?" last statement in article. Anyone know?.


Baghdad, 14 August 2008 (Voices of Iraq)

Iraq’s Ministry of Trade (MOT) on Thursday said that 374 different Iraqi companies were registered as violence has seen its lowest ebb in the conflict-racketed country.
"The department of companies registration at the MOT recorded 374 different Iraqi companies," said the National media Centre’s statement received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The announcement "220 Iraqi companies were referred to the public notary, for violating the companies' law,".
"287.091 million Iraqi dinars have been collected from companies that violated the law as fines," it added.
Iraq lacks flexible rules for open-market economy and many companies called for more transparent legislations to regulate business activities in the country.

Laura Parker

-- August 16, 2008 8:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

About Georgia.. keep in mind that this is an ONGOING conflict in Georgia, not one which just started. For the 12 year old girl who witnessed the Georgians going into her town, it would seem unprovoked, just as interviewing a 12 year old in Iran would say the same thing.. if the US went in, "without any provocation", and ruined her town. However, you and I both know that this Iranian ONGOING conflict has a lot of things going on in it.. including the fact Iran won't back down from its nuclear ambitions and says it will wipe Israel from the map and has taken those mountains in Lebanon. If the US strikes first before they nuke Israel.. and the 12 year old in Iran does not see why and thinks the US is the aggressor.. does that make it so?

The fact of the matter is that the Russians have instigated and helped these breakaways for some time. Much has been made of the US arming the Georgians, but little of the help and support the Russians have given these two breakaways. When the threat of insurrection becomes too high, the government has to take action. I believe they did so by "attacking" these Russian backed breakaways. Note the QUICK Russian response. They were obviously one hundred percent involved in what was going on. It did not take them by suprise.. because they were working quietly and with deadly intent already. They are not the innocent parties. They were taking Georgia away from the Georgians one insidious step by step. When they were confronted, they came out of the woodwork like cockroaches marching in army lines to make good on what they were already working on.. only slowly. This only brought it to a head. To even postulate Georgia was the aggressor is to forget that you are dealing with what used to be the second superpower.. and may not be quite dead yet.. "Cold War" force. The Russians are not our friends, nor are they for democracy and freedom simply because they were dealt a blow financially which caused a huge setback in their goal of world domination (the fall of the Berlin wall, etc). They are also not innoculous in the world and its politics.

It is naieve to believe we are dealing with Georgian aggression when you see daily the Georgians retreating and the Russians fully taking over the country. Pretty obviously, the Georgians saw the threat to their country and how the Russians had designs on their provinces (and a great deal of ongoing support there), and were trying to contain the Soviets before they took over the entire country. What appears to be a preemptive move does not make Georgia the aggressors, nor in the wrong.. any more than the US and Israel being forced to a war stance with Iran means they are the aggressors and in the wrong. They, like Georgia, are just "taking care of business" before they end up with a very, very bad situation. They cannot afford to wait and react after the first nukes explode. They must act beforehand... as Georgia just did in this ONGOING conflict.

Sara.

-- August 17, 2008 8:06 AM


Sara wrote:

The article you posted (subsequent to the one with the bewildered 12 year old) said it well, "The Russian-backed separatists of the breakaway province of South Ossetia were engaged in a continuous strategy of provocation..."

The fact is.. these "separatists" were none other than Russian TOOLS to try and force South Ossetia under Russia again.. is that really the will of the people of Ossetia? To be part of Russia again.. under the Kremlin? Somehow, I rather doubt it, don't you? What is to gain in such a move for the Georgians? But you can see what is to gain for the Russians..

Note the article went on to state, "If there were ever any doubts about Mr Putin’s plan to re-establish hegemony over the former Soviet space, they were dispelled by the ferocity of Russia’s assault." As I said, the Russians were ready and had been working in the situation to take these provinces by force.. covertly. They just moved from covert to overt when confronted. And I highly doubt it is the will of the people. "Mr Putin and his colleagues go through the motions of denying it but the self-evident aim is to annex Georgia to Russia’s sphere of influence." That is pretty much the summary report of what is going on.. they are trying to take over. The fact Georgia tried to head them off at the pass by making a preemptive move.. does not make Georgia the aggressor... 12 year olds notwithstanding.

And WHY? "A government in Tbilisi paying homage to Moscow would assure it monopoly control of Caspian oil and gas." Somewhat the same problems to do with Iran, Iraq.. and oil. It is a very serious problem for the world - oil supplies. And people trying to help secure that for the people of Georgia.. or Iraq.. are not wrong to help them. The concern with Iraq is that the insidious threat from Iran could cause them to knuckle under and do the will of Iran due to fear. Certainly the recent reports of death squads being sent from Iran to kill Iraqi politicians reinforces this fear. (Will post it next, back to Georgia.)

Quote: "Mr Putin cites a duty to protect Russian citizens. Hitler used a similar pretext. Likewise the talk from the Kremlin of saving Georgians from a misguided leadership comes straight from the script written by Brezhnev. Did not the Soviets march into Prague in 1968 in order to liberate Czechoslovakia?"

Can you tell that to the 12 year old whose peaceful life was interrupted? - Tell her that the real aggressors are not the Georgians.. but the Russians. It remains the truth.. no matter those who wish to brush it under the mat and forget those who are fighting for OUR way of life in a foreign land - for peace and democracy and freedom - and the right to direct their pipeline of oil and gas.. against the Russian brute force. And maybe someone ought to inform the media.. as some of it appears to be leaning quite far out toward handing the Russians their right hand of fellowship. But I suppose that is not anything new to the traitors from within.. the foes of democracy and freedom are not only foreign, but domestic.

Sara.

-- August 17, 2008 8:33 AM


Sara wrote:

Similar to Russia in Georgia.. Iran has provocation in place toward Iraq, and aims to step it up.

Iran’s Quds force has Iraqi Shiite assassination squads in training in four or more locations. Their mission? To kill Iraqi government officials

Iran training Iraqi hit squads
August 15, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

The Associated Press reports that Iran’s Quds force has Iraqi Shiite assassination squads in training in four or more locations. Their mission? To kill Iraqi government officials, Iraqi and American troops, and in general wreak havoc to ensure the collapse of the democratically-elected government:
Quote:

The officer on Wednesday provided Iraq’s national security adviser with several lists of the assassination teams’ expected targets. He said the targets include many judges but would not otherwise identify them. Iraq’s intelligence service is preparing operations to determine where and when the special group fighters will enter the country and is to provide an assessment to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The U.S. official acknowledged disclosing the information in an attempt to pressure Iran to suspend the training and prevent the militia fighters from returning to Iraq. The U.S. military also wants the Iraqi government to take steps to protect the targets. “Wanted” posters picturing men believed to be heading the special groups are being posted around Baghdad, the military officer said. …

The fighters are expected to return to Iraq between now and October, but the officer said there’s no intelligence suggesting they are actually in Iraq yet. The information came from militia fighters captured in Iraq and other sources in the country that the officer would not describe.

--end quote--

The sourcing here is somewhat interesting. The AP learned this from a “senior US military intelligence officer” in the Iraqi capital, a group which doesn’t chat with journalists without a specific purpose. Their source says the best way Iraq can defend itself is to speed up rebuilding and to complete political reconciliation, the pace of which has frustrated the US. It sounds like the US has been pressing Nouri al-Maliki for action on these issues, and has not gotten the response it wants, and that releasing the information about Iranian-led assassination squads intends on lighting a fire.

Iran wants to create a Hezbollah for Iraq, in form if not in name. They want control over a radical Shi’ite militia that will dictate policy to a weak central government, just as they have in Lebanon. If Iran can accomplish this, they will have created a linkage from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean of radical Islamist nations, all under the direction of Teheran. It will establish a firm conduit for terrorist movement throughout Southwest Asia and threaten the world’s oil supplies.

Remember when Obama wanted to talk to Iran to see if there were “areas of potential common interest”? What would those be — assassinating elected leaders in a country allied to ours?

Obama: Talk to Iran speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5qP2oPdtQ

Talking isn’t the problem here. We’d talk with Iran once it stops acting like a gangster state. The problem is the notion that we’re going to find common interest with a government bent on conquest through terrorism, and that credulity which seeps through Obama’s naive sense of foreign policy.

Iran represents a grave threat to the region on several levels. Most of us understand that threat; Obama doesn’t have a clue.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/15/iran-training-iraqi-hit-squads/

-- August 17, 2008 8:42 AM


Sara wrote:

More than 90 insurgents killed in Afghanistan
Sat Aug 16, 2008

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghan and U.S.-led coalition forces have killed more than 90 militants during several days of fighting in the south of the country this week, the U.S. military and the Afghan Interior Ministry said on Saturday.

Clashes erupted on Wednesday when several militants attacked a joint Afghan and coalition patrol with machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades, the U.S. military said in a statement.

"ANSF (Afghan National Security Forces) and coalition forces returned fire with small arms and close air support. Multiple vehicles and enemy fighting positions were destroyed," it said.

More than three dozen insurgents were killed, it added.

No soldiers from the Afghan and U.S. forces or any civilians were killed in the fighting, which was continuing on Saturday, a spokesman for the U.S. military said.

In another incident, militants attacked U.S.-led coalition forces in Kapisa province to the northeast of the capital, Kabul, on Friday, the U.S. military said.

"Coalition forces responded with air strikes and small-arms fire, killing the militants," it said, without specifying how many insurgents were killed in that incident.

Afghan district officials said their forces were pushing the Taliban back out of the districts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080816/ts_nm/afghan_violence_dc

-- August 17, 2008 8:55 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Watched the faith forum last night from Saddleback Church on MSNBC. I must say John McCain came prepared. His answers were crisp and clear. On the other hand Husseing seemed pensive in some of his answers. From my observation the audience in attendance found John McCain the more favorable candidate. If McCain holds true to his word and Justice Ginsburg and Justice John Paul Stevens both retire as suspected the Supreme Court of these United States will be distinctly different for the forseeable future. While I disagree with many of Senator McCain's political positions (McCain/Finegold and immigration to name two)he is obviously the best choice for President.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 17, 2008 10:12 AM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara, I sort of thought that the RV might not happen *ha ha ha*. I also think that the timing of it depends on the outcome of the US presidential election. Based on what I've seen and read on news channels, I think Obama will win. Whoever wins will have a tough battle to make the world economy stronger.

BritishKnite.

-- August 17, 2008 2:54 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob, I agree with your assessment. McCain is the best candidate.

I particularly liked it when he said, talking about energy, (paraphrasing him) "We are sending $700 billion a year, mostly to countries that hate us. It is the largest transfer of wealth in human history"

I have said the same thing several times in this forum.

I also liked that he said America must become independent of foreign energy by developing all sorts of alternative "green" energy, such as wind, bio-fuels, nuclear, solar, etc.

That's my position as well, and I hold stocks in these green industries.

He would also favour more offshore and Alaskan drilling, all of which is my position as well.

Cheers

-- August 17, 2008 2:56 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Britishknite:

I disagree with your assessment that Barack Hussein Obama will will the U.S. Presidential Election. According to the latest polls (McCain only relying on public funding while Hussein has raised a substantial amount through private donations) McCain and Obama are in a statitical dead heat; each taking 44% of likely voters. In my opinion, Obama supports should be concerned; logic would deduce that the Black Messiah should be eclipsing McCain instead it is McCain with much less money making his case against the Black Messiah. John McCain will be the next President of the United States. He is the best qualified between he and Hussein.


Tim:

I agree John McCain will explore all options concerning our energy needs. In his list last night he did not mention clean burning coal plants. In North America, there is a vast supply of coal. Technology has advanced in order to capture their emmissions and recirculate those emmissions making them clean burning. Hopefully the stocks you hold will increase in value during a McCain Presidency.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 17, 2008 3:29 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

Iran now says “dummy satellite” into orbit. Israel concerned by missile capability
DEBKAfile Special Report
August 17, 2008, 9:48 PM (GMT+02:00)

Iran puts satellite carrier in space
The head of Iran’s aerospace program qualified Tehran’s earlier announcement that its first home-made communications was launched Sunday, Aug. 17. Reza Taghizadeh said: “The Safir satellite carrier was launched today and for the first time we successfully launched a dummy satellite into orbit.”
Earlier, the Iranian news network IRNN showed footage of what it called a domestically-manufactured communications satellite named Safir-e Omid being launched in darkness, accompanied by patriotic hymns.
DEBKAfile reports form one Iranian source that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad personally recited the countdown.
Our military sources stress that confirmation of Iran’s successful launch would represent a strategic breakthrough, testifying to Tehran’s long-range missile delivery capability, possibly armed with nuclear warheads, to distances of thousands of kilometers, against Israel and beyond; Europe and parts of Asia would also be in range. The missile program has been advancing in parallel to Iran’s drive for a nuclear weapon.
Iran would also have paved the way for spy satellites. If verified, Iran’s space achievement would offset one of Israel’s prime military assets, its superiority in space technology.
According to our sources, Tehran caught Israel, the United States and both their undercover agencies by surprise. They knew Iran was working on a space program but not how close the Iranians were to placing a satellite in orbit.
Our sources believe that the capsule was boosted by the Shehab-5 missile, whose range the Iranians boast is up to 5,000 km and, according to some military experts, reaches 7,000 km.
The Islamic Republic’s reported feat comes at a bad time for Moscow internationally. The Russians emphatically dismiss America’s argument for installing missile interceptors in Poland as a shield against Iranian ballistic missile attack, claiming they were aimed at Russia. The Kremlin accuses the Bush administration using this false claim as a pretext, because Iran had not so far developed a ballistic threat. Now, that proof may have been provided Sunday, Moscow will have to reconsider its position.

Sara, Tim Bitts,

Thank you both for your inpute on the Georgia situation. I had a conversation with someone who stated the the populations in this section and the province on the Caspian sea is Islamic. Given Russia's relationship with Tehran, Is it possible that this was all planned with them as a divide and conquer situation on the military side. Look at the strategic situation of where these two providences are...on the northern border of Iran, very close to Turkey and not far from Iraq. The Russians are moving closer to the oil pipelines and could play a big hand in destablizing Iraq on the military end. I think the Russians are acting as another proxie of Iran. We (the USA) would be fighting with Syria on the other side of Turkey and next to Iraq; Iran on the other side of Iraq (and possibly inside of Iraq); and Russia in the northern part of the country if they decided to go through Turkey or through joint cooperation with Iran.

We would have a three, possibly four sided war with Lebanon included. The Persians known for the chess games have thought this one out well. They are moving for war in this area of the world, it would appear to me.

Pray!

Laura Parker

-- August 17, 2008 10:38 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on the Georgia situation. This sort of fits my own speculation of Islam Iran, Syria and Russia's plans. I was unable to get the rest of the article to come up at the end. Maybe, someone else could try and retrieve it. Thanks! Laura Parker

Russia considers nuclear missiles for Syria, Mediterranean, Baltic
DEBKAfile Special Report
August 17, 2008, 9:25 AM (GMT+02:00)

Russia's nuclear-capable Iskandar missile
DEBKAfile's military sources report Moscow's planned retaliation for America's missile interceptors in Poland and US-Israeli military aid to Georgia may come in the form of installing Iskandar surface missiles in Syria and its Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad.
Russian Baltic and Middle East warships, submarines and long-range bombers may be armed with nuclear warheads, according to Sunday newspapers in Europe.
In Georgia, Russian troops and tanks advanced to within 30 km of Tbilisi Saturday, Aug. 15. A Russian general said Sunday they had started pulling out after president Dimitry Medvedev signed the ceasefire agreement with Georgia and president George W. Bush called again for an immediate withdrawal.
More...

-- August 17, 2008 11:16 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev (AFP Photo / Jim Watson)August 15, 2008, 17:31
Merkel and Medvedev split over European peacekeepers
The leaders of Russia and Germany have clashed over the role of European peacekeepers in South Ossetia. Speaking after their meeting in Sochi, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel said their presence was vital to maintain stability in the conflict zone. But Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, while not objecting to the principle, argued that the South Ossetians would not allow it.

(WATCH the media conference of the Russian President and the German Chancellor)

Medvedev said: “Peace in the region should be re-established and guaranteed so that no idiotic ideas ever come to anyone’s head – that is the main task for the Russian Federation at the present moment.”

He added that the South Ossetian and Abkhazian sides had stated they would only trust Russian forces to secure peace in the region.

Merkel told the media she did not want to apportion blame, but explained she was not happy with Moscow’s actions.

“The reaction of Russia was disproportionate,” she said. “The presence of military forces on the Georgian territory was wrong. I believe we have to realise the plan of the six principles as soon as possible so that Russian troops can leave the territory of Georgia.”

Though Merkel reiterated the stance that Georgia's territorial integrity must be respected, Medvedev reminded her that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are not planning to rejoin Georgia.

"Russia as a guarantor of security in the Cacausion region will accept the solution which will reflect in unambiguous terms the will of these two Caucasasian peoples," he said.

"We are not against having international peacekeepers there, it's not a matter of our stance. We are also performing our part of the duty of providing security in that complicated region.

“But the problem is that the South Ossetians and Abkhazians do not believe in any peacekeepers except for the Russians. That’s because over the last 15 years, the only troops that have been capable of upholding their interests, and, unfortunately sometimes also having to protect their lives, have been the Russian army."

Georgia’s military assault in South Ossetia has raised the question over whether Georgia will still be welcomed by NATO. In April this year the country'e entrance to the alliance was postponed. But the German Chancellor made no mention of any obstacles for Georgia's membership in the organisation.

"As we've said before Georgia and Ukraine will become members of NATO,” she said. “We talked about the preparations for their membership being the next step, and they will be members of NATO when they want to, that remains effective."


Laura Parker

Makes me wonder if Merkel is wondering the same things that I am wondering about Russia's motives in moving in on the oil pipelines and their intentions on Iraq and possible alliance with Iran, Syria.

-- August 17, 2008 11:54 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq: the private sector's take on the investment law

18 August 2008

Arab countries have witnessed important economic changes and most have begun serious work on providing an attractive investment climate as a means to comprehensive economic development. In Iraq, the Parliament approved a new investment law in October 2006, which was published in the Official Gazette of Iraq in January 2007. The law aims to facilitate investment by Iraqi and foreign private investors, for example by protecting their rights and property. The law, however, has not yet been enacted nor has the investment commission been selected. Consequently, one must wonder whether the law is mere ink on paper, despite the urgency with which it was passed. Moreover, there was no substantial discussion of the law in the private sector, which was marginalized.

With this in mind, the Center for Market Research and Consumer Protection, in cooperation with other private sector organizations, conducted a sample of economic organizations and business associations in Iraq from June through September of 2007 to get a detailed picture of the private sector's views on the law. The study sample included the presidents, vice-presidents, and board members of 40 economic organizations and business associations encompassing all of Iraq. The goal was to uncover concerns about the law and to pass them on to executive authorities before it is enacted.

More than three-quarters of the business people surveyed supported the law and considered it implementable in its current form. They thought it would be better, however, with some revisions. Among the most important suggestions was to increase the number of private-sector representatives in the National Commission for Investment, as well as the regional and provincial commissions, so it would equal, or be larger than, that of public-sector representatives. Business people are concerned that the commissions, whether at the national or lower levels, will fall under political influence. In fact, it is believed that one of the reasons for the failure to enact the law so far is that it includes the unpopular sectarian quota system.

Other suggestions for improvement include clarifying and strengthening the respective roles of national, regional, and provincial commissions. In addition, respondents believed that the National Commission must formulate its investment strategies by means of a scientific program that includes providing a vision, formulating goals, and preparing yearly plans. These strategies should be subject to periodic evaluation, a process that can begin once the mechanisms of the Commission, as well as its relationship to investors and investment projects, are clearly defined.

It is the nature of capital to favor markets in which a single, clear, comprehensive law is applied regarding investment, and where a single authority is responsible for this law. Therefore, stability, clear principles and rules that govern investment operations, and modernizing laws to simplify regulations are considered the main means for providing a suitable investment climate. When there is no comprehensive investment law, and rules governing investment are spread across multiple laws, the result is confusion. A law should stipulate the limits of a foreign investor's involvement in order to prevent foreign investors from controlling and monopolizing the market, as well as accord investors protection from exploitation and corruption. In order to attract the greatest possible number of investors, the period of tax exemption provided to new investments should be lengthened.

Proper application of the current law will also depend upon a culture of good corporate governance, protection of intellectual property rights, and greater knowledge about laws concerning investment, the economy, and financial administration. Training is the surest way to overcome these shortcomings. The government should also study ways to decrease the paperwork required of an investor to obtain the necessary authorizations, and provide mechanisms to allow the Commission to interface with government agencies on the investor's behalf.

Finally, there is an ongoing need for special courts to resolve investment disputes. Such disputes should be resolved by legal means only, as long as Iraqi courts possess the requisite material, human, and intellectual resources to render quick judgments. Disputes with the government should be handled by a committee specialized in investment law and headed by a judge.

Taking these suggestions from business people into account would greatly enhance the effectiveness of the investment law once it is implemented, helping it achieve the goals of improving Iraq's investment climate and strengthening the private sector.

Mona Turki Musa is the director of the Center for Market Research and Consumer Protection at the University of Baghdad. This commentary, translated from the Arabic by Kevin Burnham, is reprinted with permission from the Arab Reform Bulletin, Vol. 6, issue 6 (July 2008) www.CarnegieEndowment.org/ArabReform (c) 2008, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Thanks,

Rob N.



-- August 18, 2008 10:27 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

DNO says no output from Iraq oilfield in August

Norwegian oil firm DNO said on Monday it would get no oil from its Tawke field in north Iraq as the Kurdistan regional authorities have put production on hold during a review of licensing and other procedures.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 18, 2008 10:28 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

China begins work on $900 million power plant and agrees to develop oil field in southern Iraq
By Salah al-Rubaai

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The Chinese firm, Shanghai, has started constructing a major thermal power plant in the southern Province of Wasit, the Ministry of electricity said.

Electricity Minister Kareem Waheed attended the laying down of the foundation stone for the plant, the largest ever project a foreign firm begins constructing in Iraq since the 2003 U.S. invasion.

Kareem said on completion the plant will generate 1320 megawatts of electricity.

He said under the $924 million contract the Chinese were to have the plant constructed in 48 months.

“It is a good initiative from a foreign firm to start implementing such a project in the country following the improvement in security.

“Hopefully this will encourage other firms to follow suit,” Waheed said.

The Chinese have a much bigger stake in the province as they have also agreed to develop the al-Ahdab oil field there.

China National Petroleum Corporation is to develop the field with proven reserves estimated at more than 1 billion barrels.

Kareem said the Chinese will be producing nearly 90,000 barrels a day from al-Ahdab by the time the thermal plant is completed.

“The plant will rely for its operation on the crude which al-Ahdab will be producing,” he said.

The Oil Ministry is building small-scale refineries in Wasit, with the capacity of producing 10,000 barrels a day each.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 18, 2008 10:44 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq seen abandoning most short-term oil contracts
Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:19pm EDT

By Missy Ryan

BAGHDAD, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Iraq is likely to abandon plans to sign up to $3 billion in short-term oil contracts, a U.S. diplomat said, putting in doubt deals that would give foreign oil firms their first major foothold in the country for decades.

"It appears that on present form (the Iraqi government) probably won't proceed with most of these or all of them," Charles Ries, coordinator for Iraq's economic transition at the U.S. embassy, told reporters in Baghdad on Sunday.

"But I think that some of the companies are open to continued discussions even on relationship grounds, and some of the companies ... don't think it's worth their time."

Iraq has been negotiating six no-bid, short-term technical support contracts with international oil firms, worth about $500 million each, which are aimed at quickly boosting production by a combined 500,000 barrels a day.

Like most oil-rich countries in the region, Iraq nationalised its oil industry in the 1970s. War and political instability have so far prevented international oil companies from returning since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003.

The government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is hoping to sign a host of new oil deals by next year that would provide global oil companies their first major commercial access to the OPEC member's fields in nearly four decades.

The first phase would have been the short-term deals, which should have been signed earlier this year but have been delayed in part due to disagreement over payment terms.

The deals involve Royal Dutch Shell (RDSa.L: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz); Shell in partnership with BHP Billiton (BHP.AX: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz); BP (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz); Exxon Mobil (XOM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz); Chevron (CVX.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) with Total (TOTF.PA: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz); and a consortium of smaller firms Anadarko (APC.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), Vitol and Dome.

Ries said Anadarko and some of its partners had already walked away from talks over their deal, the first to apparently fall through.

He said the foreign firms were at best lukewarm to the idea of the short-term contracts which "were never going to be hugely lucrative," but some had been pursuing them in the hope of building a long-term relationship with Iraq's Oil Ministry.

The deals had also been criticised at home and abroad because they lacked competitive tenders, Ries said.

Oil Ministry officials, who have voiced frustration over the delays, were not immediately available for comment.

The short-term contracts were to be followed by far more valuable longer-term development contracts, for which dozens of foreign energy firms are expected to bid.

As the June 2009 deadline for finalizing those long-term contracts approaches, it has appeared more likely that the short-term bridge contracts could be discarded.

Iraqi officials have insisted they would not give preferential treatment in bids for long-term contracts to companies that participated in the short term deals.

YEARS OF DECAY

Iraq has proven reserves of 115 billion barrels, the world's third largest, but its production has been hurt by decades of sanctions and war. Maliki's U.S.-backed government is now looking to quickly boost its output with new investment.

Iraq now exports about 2 million barrels of oil per day, roughly the same amount as before the fall of Saddam Hussein.

Oil is not just the lifeblood of Iraq's economy -- providing 70 percent of GDP and over 90 percent of export earnings -- it will also be the engine for rebuilding its shattered infrastructure and providing desperately needed basic services.

Yet political feuding has hindered passage of an oil law needed to divvy up Iraq's vast oil wealth and allow bigger investment from foreign firms.

A draft version of the law was passed by the cabinet in early 2007, but since then the measure has been mired in disputes, such as a debate between Baghdad and the northern autonomous Kurdish region over who will control reserves there.

Ries declined to speculate when the law, which he described as a "a major political challenge, not a technocratic question", might finally be passed.

"The process of moving from a state-controlled sector to a sector that is a mixed one, allowing for participation for foreign investors in some form or fashion, has been slower and more halting than we would have liked," he said.

Yet Ries painted a brighter picture overall of the Iraqi economy's lumbering steps toward stability.

He said core inflation, which is still a relatively high around 12 to 15 percent, had been reduced substantially, and that the economy was on track for "solid growth" in 2008.

But he said the government must improve its ability to spend budgeted money on capital projects and other necessities and needs to do more to diversify the economy and reduce corruption.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 18, 2008 10:57 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura, when I was reading your stuff about Russia and Iran etc, I was thinking about Obama's answer the other night to the question, Does Evil Exist, posed by Rick Warren, on CNN the other night. Did you see that? I thought Obama's answer on evil was pretty lame and vague.

Rick asked him about evil. Obama went on to first cite Darfur. That makes sense to me. I don't like to see ethnic cleansing and violence. I also not that the world is full of problems and evil like this, but Obama chose to first quote a situation that has become the fashionable choice of the Hollywood left, as far as what it considered to be an important world problem.

Then Obama mentioned, as his second case of evil, "streets of our cities". He didn't fill out what he meant, so I'll have to speculated he meant crime, and violence on American street. I was unhappy with this example because he didn't really say what he meant. Are the young thugs who are criminals evil? Are they doing evil? Should they be confronted? Or is society, in other words, all of us collectively evil, because we are responsible for the supposed racism that leads to large amount of crime perpetuated by certain populations, like young black males, in particular, who are over-represented in crime statistics? He doesnt' say.

Then Obama cites, as his third example of evil, "parents who visciously abused their children". Now I agree with Obama's example. Abusing children is horrid, and should be condemned. But as horrible as this is, especially to those particular individuals involved, who deserve our compassion and protection, I doubt very much if, in the big picture of all the ills confronting America, I doubt very much if compared to all the other moral problems and problems regarding evil, I doubt this is one of the big problems that cause any major challenges to America.

So I find it interesting that he would cite this example, and leave out so many other obvious answers. He could have cited Naziism and the WWII and the ethnic cleansing of the Jews. But he didn't. He could have talked about the dangers of Islamo-fascism, and how a group of religious fanatics within Islam, still intend on destroying America. But he didn't.

Instead of confronting these grown-up problems, his view was that of a small child. Abusive parents were seen as one of the 3 major evils in the world. And it's rough on the street, that's evil. That's the point of view of a 12 year old boy who has to walk to school in a rough neighborhood, but is it the view of an adult? Don't think so.

John McCain, on the other hand, was pretty clear, where he stood. He looked straight in the camera and said that Islamofascism was the transcendent challenge of the 21st century. No ifs and buts. This is a man who spent time in a Vietnam prisoner of war camp. He needs no lessons in evil from anyone, least of all young naive pup Obama.

And the young pup Obama, after citing his 3 weak examples of evil, goes on immediately to dilute, nuance and qualify his beliefs. Right after he gave his examples, he says "we are not going to, as individuals, be able to erase evil from the world. That's God's task". Well, thank you, Reverend Obama. First of all, a nuanced moral discussion of evil belongs in a 2nd year philosophy course at university. In the short time alloted in a presidential interview, people are wondering a simple thing: Does this guy believe in evil? It's a simple question. You either do, or you don't. If you start giving nuanced and qualified answers, people will start doubting your sincerity and conviction. A president is supposed to be a strong moral leader, not a public philosopher-in-chief.

And if you immediately say, it's God's task, you are weakening your position on morals, by qualifying and quibbling, philosophically....If it's God's task, why should I bother? Isn't that saying it's God's responsibility, not mine? Doesn't that give me a moral out, so I don't have to try to be moral, or get rid of evil, because God, not me, is ultimately responsible for the existence of evil?

And if this sort of evivocation was not enough, Obama immediately states that he thinks that a lot of evil has been perpetuated, in the past, based on the claim that we are trying to confront evil. Well, thank you, Reverend Obama Moral Relativism. If you want a wishy-washy, philosopher-in-chief, instead of commander-in-chief, definitely vote for this guy. If you want a man without clear beliefs, and gripped by intellectual self-doubt, vote for this guy. Obama's your man.

And again, the biggest current evil in the world: Islamo-fascism, Obama, he failed to mention. How can someone be commander in chief, and protector of America, if he doesnt' even have enough moral sense to see the largest danger in the world? In other words, the biggest evil? The man is not completely morally blind, IMHO, just severely morally near-sighted. He needs moral glasses, just to be able to see evil beyond his nose.....John McCain needs no such glasses.

And in a real world, Laura, where Iran and Russia are playing nuclear chess and roulette with the world, this wishy-washey, morally near-sited fellow wants to be president?

-- August 18, 2008 11:17 AM


Sara wrote:

This is non-dinar..
It is a reply to Phantom's post when he wrote on the board earlier,
(sorry, it took a while to formulate the answer you, Phantom) QUOTE:

Phantom wrote:

What do you folks think of this? Could it cause the heavens to be "rolled up like a scroll"?

Scientists: Nothing to fear from atom-smasher

By DOUGLAS BIRCH, Associated Press Writer Sat Jun 28, 3:08 PM ET

MEYRIN, Switzerland - The most powerful atom-smasher ever built could make some bizarre discoveries, such as invisible matter or extra dimensions in space, after it is switched on in August.

But some critics fear the Large Hadron Collider could exceed physicists' wildest conjectures: Will it spawn a black hole that could swallow Earth? Or spit out particles that could turn the planet into a hot dead clump?

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/06/dinar_discussio_3.html#135655

To understand my view on this question I must explain a little background information:

When looking at the age of the universe, as I explained before, the "light year" is a measurement of distance, not a measurement of time. Scientists understand that the "Big Bang" happened everywhere at once, and that the speed of light was exceeded in the time of the "expansion" phase of the universe. During that time, processes that would appear to take billions of years took a very short period of time to happen. The BANG part happened very, very quickly, not slowly over eons of time.

It is like measuring the distance from one part of a firecracker to another part as it lies on the ground after the explosion. The distance can be measured in meters you walk per second between the two pieces, but the time it took to get there was very quick, not the time it takes you to walk from one piece over to the next piece. If you were to walk from one piece of the firecracker to another, it might take you one minute. It does not mean it took one minute for them to get there, as you know the firecracker exploded and they flew apart and landed there at accelerated speed.

Therefore, the measurement of meters per second that you walk between the firecracker pieces is not a measurement of the time it took the pieces to get there, but a measurement of the distance from one part of the explosion to another part of it. It is the same when taking the distance from here to a star - the light-year is a measurement of space or distance, but not a measurement of the amount of time it took for that star to get that far away from us. The laws of physics which were exceeded at the time of the expansion are not currently being exceeded and so things today are quite uniform and that measurement (the light year) is exactly like the measurement of the meter-seconds you walk between the firecracker fragments - it cannot be used for calculating time of the expansion phase of the universe when the measurement we use (the light year) was exceeded. This is what they admit when they say the speed of light was exceeded during the time of the "expansion" phase. Taking today's distance techniques for figuring out how far away (in light-years) a star is and applying them to the universe by thinking the light-year is a measurement of time makes the universe much older than it actually is.

Using the "expansion phase" as an accelerator of time works well for BOTH models of the universe (old or young), because scientists are stumped as to how come the universe's age is so much younger than its size.

That is, the universe is about 13.73 billion years old,[1] with an uncertainty of 120 million years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe

Various methods have been used. The first really useful one was the Hubble constant, a number you can plug into the Big Bang theory to help describe the expansion of the universe, and thus how old it is. The problem was that no one could agree on what the Hubble constant actually was. It could have been anything from 50 to 100, which meant the universe could have been anything from about 8 billion to 15 billion years old.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2006/1718422.htm

The universe's age is calculated based on the speed of the universe's expansion," Teske said. "Determining how fast it expands depends not only on measuring how fast the galaxy clusters recede from us, which is fairly easy to do, but also upon measuring their distances as exactly as possible, which is still hard to do. Estimates of the age have ranged from 8 billion years to 14 billion years, owing to the uncertainty of distances. The expected improvement of distance estimates by Hubble is going to sharpen up knowledge of the universe's speed of expansion and hence provide a reliable estimate of its age."
http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=1183

Note that the CURRENT rate of expansion is what is used to determine the age of the universe and set the time at 14 billion years old. This does not take into account the accelerated phase of the expansion of the universe, which deposited the galaxy clusters rapidly at vast distances. This is obvious because the 14 billion year figure does not fit with the known SIZE of the universe, QUOTE:

Pamela: So, most people ask, “How far away do you think we can see?” They reply, if they’ve been listening to the show long enough, well the universe is 13.7 billions years old and so that means we can probably see things that are 13.7 billion light years away.

Fraser: In all directions?

Pamela: In all directions. And its sort of valid logic, but the problem is that the Universe is expanding. We can see objects with light that has traveled a path that is 13.7 billion light years long, but the problem is the starting point of that photon that traveled that 13.7 billion years isn’t 13.7 billion light years away.

Fraser: You’re right. If you had asked me, that would have been my answer. But now that I think about it, it’s all red chipped; it’s all spread out. So, it’s actually been traveling further than that. Okay, someone must have done the math.

Pamela: Someone has done the math. In fact, it’s more like 78 billion light years away is where that starting point for that furthest photon that we’re able to see started.

Fraser: Seventy billion light years?

Pamela: Seventy-eight billion light years away is the starting point of that photon.

Fraser: So we can see a sphere around us 78 billion light years radius, so 156 billion light years - a bubble, I guess across.

Pamela: And that’s all because the universe is expanding. The light travels one distance but the objects are moving away from us so what we’re actually able to see represents a larger sphere than the sphere the light traveled on. It’s really weird.

http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/ep-79-how-big-is-the-universe/

So here the scientists say the universe is about 14 billion years old, but we can see 78 billion years across and since the universe is spherical (we think) the actual size must be at least 156 billion light years across. The timescale is off by TEN TIMES at least. The inflationary period fits here, as you can see. If matter was spun across into those 156 billion light years faster than the speed of light, the timescale can finally fit with the 14 billion year age of the universe. It can also be postulated that it went faster than that, and the time it took to strew it across the universe was shorter than they imagine and the universe is actually less than 14 billion years old. Not only that, this statistic of the OBSERVABLE universe being necessarily at least 156 billion light years across is also not the whole story.

QUOTE (from same url above):

Fraser: We said that the observable universe is about 156 billion light years across. That begs the next question: “What percentage of the real universe are we actually able to see?”

Pamela: We don’t know.

Fraser: Okay, well then I guess that depends. When I see a percentage I guess that depends on whether a universe is finite or infinite. So why don’t we talk about that and then we can come back around.

Pamela: This is where all cosmologists just sort of hang their heads and say, “We’re working on it. We have limits. We have ideas and we may never know the exact answer.”

http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/ep-79-how-big-is-the-universe/

Frankly, what we see is HUGE. It doesn't fit with our tiny 14 billion year timescale of the age of the known universe (how can the age of the universe be 14 billion years old when it is 156 billion light years across?), and we don't know what percentage of the universe we are seeing. This PROBLEM with the age of the universe is not just limited to those who believe in a Creator. Those who are working from atheist assumptions, based only on the data, also have a problem reconciling the supposed age of the universe (14 billion years) with the SIZE of the universe (156 billion light years visible, and possibly a lot more that we do not see, up to infinity). Quite obviously, the timescales simply do not match.

We have used the light-year to define TIME when we know it has been exceeded during the expanding phase of the universe. We know the "big bang" happened everywhere at once, and so our light-year scale measuring tool is a measurement of distance, not time. The vast ages of the cosmos are inserted into the data based on presumptions about how fast that expansion phase happened. If a lot of the expansion and cooling, etc.. happened very quickly (much like an explosion happens quickly and quickly cools) then everything could have been formed very quickly into the current state it is now. This can fit into either model, depending on your degree of acceleration (fast - 14 billion years old, faster - 14 thousand years old, etc).

OK, on to the question Phantom posed. One way to prove this expansion phase happened very quickly (and thus that the cosmos age is much younger than thought) would be if we could use the same physics behind the theory to create a similar reaction today. Many say that cannot be done, based on their belief that it would take a HUGE amount of energy to create the force necessary for the expansion. But that is like looking at a house and calculating in BTU how much fire would be necessary to burn it to the ground. We all know it only takes a match, not something which needs hundreds of thousands of BTUs to be generated instantaneously. Understanding what the reaction is which caused the expansion of the universe gives a clue as to how to recreate it. I believe it can be recreated and then used to power our exploration of the stars, based on an understanding of what that reaction actually IS. Based on my understanding of that reaction, we are about to see them light a match with this accelerator.

If I am right, when they start up the particle accelerator and begin to smash atoms, we may have a disaster happen, because if they force the particles into the other dimensional space I believe must be there, they will find it so volatile, it will explode, creating a "nuclear" decimation coming back from that dimension into this one. (It should be limited enough in scope that it will not consume the continent or world since they are just smashing a few particles together and making them "nuclear", but it should spectacularly decimate the area around the accelerator, if they create the desired reaction I think they will. Therefore, to answer your question, this is not the "rolling up like a scroll" prophecied in Scripture, but it won't be minor, either.) Unfortunately, a disaster would prove that my theory about how the space-time continuum is powered is essentially correct. It would have wide ranging possibilities for future advancement, since that means we can create a spacecraft powered by such a reaction, but the mistake we would learn from would be costly. I do hope that they won't be able to generate sufficient energy to cause the extra dimensional reaction by the atom smashing they are hoping to do. But unfortunately, I think they will. I think they will generate sufficient force to finally move the particles into another dimensional space which I postulate must exist for the universe to exist in the form it now takes, and that will cause a reaction similar to our nuclear reactions which will come back into our dimension with volcanic force. In a way, their view of it being only a brane and trying to "push off" the brane has such a degree of error in understanding of the extra dimensions necessary for certain reactions to occur, their lack of understanding will be a spectacular proof of "biting off more than they can chew." (The brane idea has merit, they just miss another dimension which must necessarily exist for our world to occur in the form it is now in, IMO. They don't understand what that dimension IS.)

If there is no disaster, then their postulation that it takes an enormous amount of initial energy (the size of the "big bang") to create the reaction will be true. In other words, it takes a God-sized degree of energy and it is therefore inaccessible to man. If, however, they blow themselves to kingdom come, it proves to me that the reactions which are huge can be mimiced at a tiny level (the match) and used as a source of propelling mankind to the stars. It also may allow time travel which is why I will not be specific about how I believe that realm works. A time machine is obviously the ultimate weapon militarily, since you can go back and change things to affect the outcome of wars, etc. I am certain that if what I believe is true, it will be classified information for this reason, and I won't give that to any who may wish evil upon our cause and people.

Sara.

-- August 18, 2008 12:12 PM


cornishboy wrote:


ATM machines spread out in the streets of Baghdad


Took automated teller machines ATM gradually appearing in the streets of the Iraqi capital, where scores of Iraqis accept a day to withdraw cash from bank accounts via credit cards.

The French Press Agency that among the most active in the use of automated teller machines are Square Guilan central Baghdad where the movement of commercial diligent, and accepts many Baghdadis to use these machines that have been developed within the market.

The agency showed a picture of an Iraqi citizen is used one of these machines to withdraw cash payment from his bank account.

It is noteworthy that some Iraqi banks started providing credit card customers, while other banks announced they would adopt credit cards to customers soon.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1666539

-- August 18, 2008 1:38 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's decision to abandon the TSA's is really no surprise to me. With the cancellation of the TSAs and no movement on the Hydro Carbon Law it appears to me the Iraqi's are planning to develop these fields themselves and with partners (like China and Russia) not concerned with a structured oil sector governed by laws. The oil majors have stayed out of Iraq because of this lack of structure.

If the Iraqi's are able to develop these fields themselves or with partners like China and Russia the HCL will be delayed indefinately. The Iraqi's intent is to control their own destiny. A destiny that benefits Iraq and a destiny determined by Iraq for Iraq.

Concerning the Dinar, without the Western Oil Majors investment our hopes of significant return on our investment may be delayed. Especially if the GoI decides to internally develop those oil fields.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 18, 2008 4:27 PM


Sara wrote:

As John McCain spoke to his fellow veterans today, he spoke of people like me.. those who he says are, quote, "still trying to square Sen. Obama's varying positions on the surge in Iraq." Because I still don't know what he truly intends to do on it.. except that I gather he would like us to lose (by pulling out precipitously from this "distraction" in Iraq in order to go to what he terms the "real" war in Afghanistan).

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McCain: Win war in Iraq first, then bring troops home
Aug 18 2008
By David Jackson
USA TODAY

ORLANDO — John McCain told the nation's largest veterans group Monday that both he and Barack Obama want to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq, but "the great difference is that I intend to win it first."

McCain assailed Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, for saying he still would have opposed the 2007 U.S. troop build-up in Iraq.

"Even in retrospect, he would choose the path of retreat and failure for America over the path of success and victory," McCain said.

VIDEO: McCain credits troop surge with Iraq success
POLITICS BLOG: Text of McCain's speech
MORE BLOG: McCain says Obama has ambition, not judgment

In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the Republican candidate also questioned Obama's ability to handle foreign policy challenges such as Russia's invasion of Georgia.

While the U.S. is now winning the Iraq war, McCain warned that "the lasting advantage of a peaceful and democratic ally in the heart of the Middle East could still be squandered by hasty withdrawal and arbitrary timelines."

As the presidential election approaches, the Arizona senator said, a lot of people "are still trying to square Sen. Obama's varying positions on the surge in Iraq."

In an effort to stemming widespread violence, President Bush ordered an additional 30,000 combat troops into Iraq in early 2007.

"First, he (Obama) opposed the surge and confidently predicted that it would fail," McCain said. "Then he tried to prevent funding for the troops who carried out the surge."

"Not content to merely predict failure in Iraq, my opponent tried to legislate failure," he said.

"In matters of national security," McCain said, "good judgment will be at a premium in the term of the next president, as we were all reminded ten days ago by events in the nation of Georgia."

Russia's invasion threatens the nation's energy security because of the pipeline that runs through Georgia, McCain said. He also said the United States has a vested interested in protecting Georgia and the other democracies that emerged from the collapse of the Soviet Union.

McCain also told the convention he would improve veterans' health care.

"Veterans should never be deprived of quality medical care and mental health care coverage for illness or injury incurred as a result of their service to our country," he said. "I will make sure that Congress funds the VA health care budget in a sufficient, timely, and predictable manner. But I will say that every increase in funding must be matched by increases in accountability, both at the VA and in Congress."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-18-mccain-veterans_N.htm?csp=34

-- August 18, 2008 4:33 PM


cornishboy wrote:

(This came from a nother forum.) The Islamic countries want to use the ‘gold dinar.’ If that happens, several hundred billion dollars held in other countries will flood our country and ...

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An interesting read. While it does cover a bigger picture than the dinar itself, I suspect it is another piece of the puzzle we all eagerly await to be revealed http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1219039500.php

-- August 18, 2008 7:19 PM


cornishboy wrote:

This is looking like it is heading towards the amero!

-- August 18, 2008 7:36 PM


cornishboy wrote:

This is looking like it is heading towards the amero!http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amero&search_type=&aq=f

-- August 18, 2008 7:36 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

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Arab world fears an Iran war may be impending
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 18, 2008, 1:05 PM (GMT+02:00)


USS Ronald Reagan
DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources report that the Iranian satellite carrier space launch Sunday, Aug. 17, was prompted by a joint caution to Tehran from Saudi King Abdullah and Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.

After their meeting Saturday, the spokesman of the presidential palace in Cairo, Suleiman Awwad, said: Iran should not present on a silver platter the “justifications and pretexts for those [US and Israel] who want to drag the region down a dangerous slope.”

This warning was interpreted by the London Arabic daily Al Quds as a warning to Tehran that an attack is impending by the US, some European nations and Israel.

The article recalled the fate of Saddam Hussein “who didn't adequately refute claims over Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction.”

Tehran immediately responded to the warning by launching the Safir satellite carrier into orbit, thereby exhibiting a ballistic missile capable of reaching outside the Middle East, as far as Britain and France, should they decide to join an American attack on Iran, as well as US military installations on that continent.

Our military sources report that the war scare in Cairo and Riyadh also infected Kuwait.

Last week, the small oil emirate placed its military on “war alert,” to avoid being caught off-guard by a possible conflict in the region. On Saturday, Kuwait boosted its naval force in the Persian Gulf to ward off a possible Iranian reprisal against its oil installations if attacked.

The scare was fed by the impending arrival of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, the USS Ronald Reagan, and the USS Iwo Jima in the Persian Gulf to reinforce the US strike forces in the region, as first revealed by DEBKAfile on August 11.

They are to join the USS Abraham Lincoln, which is patrolling the Arabian Sea opposite Iran, and the USS Peleliu, on beat in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden. This deployment would be the largest naval task force the US and its allies had massed in the region since the 1991 Gulf War.

A US Pentagon spokesman last week denied that these forces were gathering to impose a partial naval blockade on Iran, but declined to disclose their mission. The denial apparently failed to convince the rulers of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait

-- August 18, 2008 10:05 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara, thanks for the info, on the differences between males and females. I believe it is basically true for most people. However, nature plays tricks on people. There is a very small percentage of women who make good combat soldiers, while the vast majority of women don't. The Canadian Army has tried aggressively recruiting female frontline soldiers for 20 years, under the guise of feminism and so-called equal opportunity for women, and they have met with only very very limited success. Most girls just don't want to be soldiers.

An exception was a 20 year old Calgary girl who was a Canadian soldier killed in the line of duty in Afghanistan 1 year ago.

When I was a boy, my brothers and I played soldier for thousands of hours. No one had to tell us to do it. It was just something we felt compelled to do, and enjoyed, and none of our sisters were interested.

-- August 18, 2008 10:16 PM


Carole wrote:

In the 70's, I read a book named. "How to Survive the Money Crash". It changed my entire way of thinking and living.
Very much like the Dinar, as prepared as I continued to be, the elements of a money crash and one world currency, just never took roots.

In the late 80's ( or maybe early 90's ) I read New World Order, by Pat Robertson. That book had a similar effect on me and my way of thinking and living. The difference with New World Order, is that it has never lost its relevancy or accuracy concerning the on-goings of this world. Perhaps, had this book been written post 9/11, there would have been more information on the detail of the Radical Islamic movement.

After spending today reading all of the recent posts and references linked(ie.Cornishboy's article by Bradshaw), the reality of the introspections of both of those books is inevitable.

While the dialog here has been incredibly rich in content and thought,the most profound, insightful and relevant comment posted, was written by Laura, which was "PRAY"

Carole

-- August 19, 2008 1:16 AM


Paul wrote:

Done deal... lop announced.
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZW...D00D0B74A0D7C/

The Central Bank of Iraq Central Bank of Iraq Central Bank of IraqCBI Iraq | Financial Services News | Profile | Officers » Research
has taken steps to rebase the Iraqi dinar and issue new banknotes, a senior official at the bank said Tuesday.
"We have reached a conclusion that we should take off three zeroes from the current Iraqi dinar banknotes," Mudher Qasim, the bank's senior advisor, told Dow Jones Newswires in an exclusive interview.
"The process is progressing and we have taken some steps," Qasim said. "We will issue a decision in due time."
Qasim didn't give a timeframe when that decision would be taken, but said printing new banknotes and fully replacing old notes would take two years from the time the decision is taken.
Iraqi Finance Minister Bayan Jabor said his ministry had suggested to the central bank to take off three zeroes from the current Iraqi dinar banknotes. "The Central Bank Governor (Sinan Al-Shabibi) has informed me that the bank is in the process of taking that decision," Jabor told the state-run al-Iraqia Satellite Channel Monday.
"The Central Bank of Iraq Central Bank of Iraq Central Bank of IraqCBI Iraq | Financial Services News | Profile | Officers » Research
supports what the finance minister was saying," Qasim said.
If the rebase decision is taken, it means a current 25,000 Iraqi dinar banknote will become IQD25, for example.
Tuesday, the Iraqi dinar traded at IQD1,200 against the dollar, according to a trader in Baghdad. When three zeroes are knocked off the Iraqi dinar, a dollar will equal only 1.20 dinars.
Currency rebasings are usually monetarily neutral and are introduced to make commercial calculations and cash dealing easier and cheaper. Turkey knocked six zeroes off its lira currency Jan 1, 2005, for example. Russia did the same for its currency.
"In a country like Iraq where cash consists 80% of money dealing, we need smaller bank notes," Qasim said, adding that current Iraqi banknotes were difficult to store and need strict security measures when moving money from one place to another.
There are now some 20 trillion Iraqi dinar banknotes in use in the market, which is a very big amount and if Iraq knocked 3 zeroes it would become IQD20 billion which is a reasonable amount, he said.
Qasim also said one of the reasons for rebasing the Iraqi dinar is because the bank has managed to reduce the country's high rates of inflation. The inflation rate fell to 14.7% in May this year from a record high of 60% in late 2006.
In July 2004, the now dissolved U.S. civilian authority in Iraq decided to print the current Iraqi banknotes replacing those used to bear the picture of the former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Iraqis then had three months to swap their old dinars with the new ones.
"This time we aren't in hurry, if it takes two years to swap the new currency with the old one, then let it so," Qasim said.
The current banknotes were printed by Britain's De La Rue Plc (DLAR.L), the world's biggest commercial printer of bank notes.
Jabor said in November last year that the central bank would rebase the dinar in early 2008.
-By Hassan Hafidh; Dow Jones Newswires; + 962 799 831 831; hassan.hafidh@dowjones.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
19-08-08 0720GMT

-- August 19, 2008 10:19 AM


Bob wrote:

Wow, this is a surprise. Any thoughts?

-- August 19, 2008 11:03 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Paul:

I would not sell off just yet. I am not sure as to the validity of this article. I will wait for an official announcment from Al-Shabibbi himself.

I do not believe the CBI will alert the public to either a lop or revaluation or reversion. I suspect the CBI governor will make a similar statement as he did in November 2007 denying Jabor's comments. He will probably deny these to. If not, all we can do is wait and see. I am in until the end.

Thanks,

-- August 19, 2008 11:08 AM


Sara wrote:

I have a Canadian friend who told a joke which is relevant to this "lop announced" post
(apologies to those from this Island, no offense, but it was his joke):

There was a family from Cape Breton Island who wrote a letter to their son:
Son, we moved. We took the numbers off the house and put them on our new house so you can find us. Your aunt sent you a coat and we heard that the buttons were heavy so we cut them off and put them in the pocket to save on postage. Three of your friends died when their pickup truck fell into the ocean. They were unable to get the tailgate to open.

What do these three jokes have in common (other than knocking a group of people, which I must admit I never really like in jokes, still..)
THEY ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY STUPID.

Same as this story Paul posted today, WHY do they need to do this? The article he posted says, QUOTE:

"we need smaller bank notes," Qasim said, adding that current Iraqi banknotes were difficult to store and need strict security measures when moving money from one place to another. There are now some 20 trillion Iraqi dinar banknotes in use in the market, which is a very big amount and if Iraq knocked 3 zeroes it would become IQD20 billion which is a reasonable amount, he said."

I think Mr. Qusim is also a Cape Breton Islander.

Why will another SIX 747s full of these NEW Iraqi Dinar notes be "easier to store" or need any LESS strict security measures?
(Read that over again slowly and let it sink in.)

The change is only cosmetic, not actual to the worth of the currency or the number of notes in circulation. The currency of Iraq does not change value in this scenerio.. it is STILL worth less than a penny to the USD. Who cares what the face value says.. 25,000 or 25 IQD. It is still worth the same amount of money. You still plunk down the same amount of money to buy the Dinar.. the value did not change, just the face value written on the notes you receive in return....

And do you expect that the Iraqi Dinar value will remain with a worth (compared to the surrounding countries) of LESS THAN ONE US PENNY? That you will forever be able to plunk down a few hundred USD and buy large amounts of it, relative to picking up, say, the Saudi or Kuwaiti currency? I don't think so. They are still sitting on the third largest oil reserve in the world! If they change to another printing of their currency with a different face value.. so what? The article states it is CURRENCY NEUTRAL.. it will not lose us a penny. QUOTE:

Currency rebasings are usually monetarily neutral and are introduced to make commercial calculations and cash dealing easier..

This is not the RV, which must come eventually. The money stays neutral.. it does not change value. Will the Iraqi money stay at the same value it is now? (Think hard on that question.) If you think the currency value of the Iraqi Dinar is true and that is all the currency is worth or will be worth in the future.. sell (and why are you in the Dinar at all?) If, like me, you are certain Iraq must eventually join the real world and have a currency VALUE worth more than a US penny, then, like me, just change your current notes for the new ones. Then store them again.. as they will have to do.

The change in face value will not change how many notes they need in circulation, nor will it make it easier to store and it won't need less strict security measures.. and since it is NEUTRAL in effect, you will not lose anything in value. And the Iraqis STILL don't have a real market value to their currency, no matter the shell games they want to play with issuing new notes with different numbers on the face of them. This is currency NEUTRAL, it does not change the worth or value of the IQD on the world market.. and it is not the RV.

This is nothing but a scare tactic before they RV to shake out those who they can. If you believe in the intrinsic worth of the Iraqi Dinar (which is why you got into this investment in the first place, believing it must go up), don't be fooled by their face value number shuffling into thinking this MONETARILY NEUTRAL transaction which will help them make "commercial calculations and cash dealing easier" has anything to do with the currency's WORTH, which Dinarians believe must go up as THAT is what this investment is about.

Sara.

-- August 19, 2008 1:28 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

The below article is significant because it discusses the first mentioning of a structure for the Dinars liquidity. This structure will provide those holding Dinars in the U.S. an avenue to purchase and exchange dinars as freely as we now can redeem dollars. Your thoughts.
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Iraqi banks by allowing them to claim the opening set-off with U.S. banks

The financial adviser told «Bank North» Iraqi Yes Ghanem Jaleel, private Iraqi banks that need the support of the state aimed at promoting its functions.
He added: «decision to lift the amounts of funds for private banks to two million dollars encouraging step and good for activating the role».

He pointed out that the private Iraqi banks demanding the Iraqi Central Bank to allow open channels off with U.S. banks.

The «procedures for the granting of bank credits for insurance at 10 percent was merely a paper-based transactions, and can not be development work».

He explained that the method «Central Bank of Iraq» in feeding Iraqi assets in banks abroad, impeding commercial transactions and cause some losses due to the fluctuation of exchange rates, global, suggesting reduced from 4 - 5 days to two days maximum.

And the return of the Iraqi capital migrating from neighboring countries into the country, he said that the encouragement possible through the support of Iraqi banks to enable them to give facilities to Iraqi businessmen. He pointed out that banks in neighboring countries benefit from allowing them to open house with American banks, what encourages them to attract those funds.
(http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNewsAr.aspx%3Fid%3D6715)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 19, 2008 4:14 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

That joke was probably originally a "Newfie" joke. People from Newfoundland are often portrayed as dim-witted, in jokes in Canada. (sometimes told by Newfies themselves) In fact they are the most sociable and down to earth people you'd ever want to meet. Cape Bretoners are very musical. I've been there a few times. One of the best places to visit in Canada, especially in the fall, on the Cabot Trail, if you like music and fall colors.

Rob,

Doesn't Zero Lopping usually happen in countries where inflation is out of control? And the country's future doesn't look to good? That sure wouldn't apply to Iraq.

-- August 19, 2008 5:07 PM


Sara wrote:

timbitts - you are welcome for the male/female article.

Rob N - That sounds good. If they go for a newly printed currency, I will definitely exchange mine and wait for the Revalue upward to about where the other currencies in the region are at. I read on another site that "many times" Mr. Shabbibi has said they would put thier rate on par with neighboring countries . . . and I must agree that I also do not think they will settle for less than that - say the rate of Kuwait or Jordan.

I won't be getting out until I see a rate at least on par with the surrounding currencies, as that is AT LEAST what the Dinar is worth (and many say much more due to the third largest oil reserves in the world).

Sara.

-- August 19, 2008 5:08 PM


Sara wrote:

Veterans Solidly Back McCain
Prefer McCain to Obama by 56% to 34%
by Jeffrey M. Jones
August 19, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- With both presidential candidates addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention this week (John McCain on Monday and Barack Obama on Tuesday), Gallup finds that registered voters who have served in the U.S. military solidly back McCain over Obama, 56% to 34%.

This is based on aggregated data from Aug. 5-17 Gallup Poll Daily tracking, involving interviews with more than 11,000 registered voters, including 2,238 military veterans. Veterans are defined as those who are or have been members of the U.S. military. Among Republicans and Republican leaners, McCain is the choice of 89% of veterans compared with 83% of non-veterans, a difference of 6 percentage points, but Obama is the overwhelming choice of Democratic supporters regardless of military service.

McCain clearly holds an advantage over Obama among veterans, but that is probably due more to the fact that veterans tend to be Republicans. Veterans showed similarly strong support for Bush in the 2004 presidential election. The data suggest there still is an effect of military service on candidate preference, but it is rather small and is overwhelmed by the effects of party affiliation.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109654/Veterans-Solidly-Back-McCain.aspx

-- August 19, 2008 5:17 PM


Sara wrote:

Barack Obama's credentials are becoming scrutinized and better known.
As people learn what he is really is.. and his varied positions on the issues..
his propped up "image" is failing him.

==

Barack Obama's image suffers under John McCain attacks, poll finds
By Michael Finnegan, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 19, 2008

Barack Obama's public image has eroded this summer, leaving the race for the White House statistically tied, according to a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll released today.

Far more voters say McCain has the right experience to be president, the poll found. More than a third have questions about Obama's patriotism.

More striking than the head-to-head matchup, however, is the drop in Obama's favorable rating in the run-up to his selection of a running mate and the Democratic National Convention next week in Denver.

Obama's favorable rating has sunk to 48% from 59% since the last Times/Bloomberg poll in June. At the same time, his negative rating has risen to 35% from 27%.

By comparison, McCain's ratings have hardly budged during the same period: 46% of voters have a positive feeling about him; 38% give him negative ratings.

The survey found that 63% of voters have confidence in Obama's ability to deal wisely with an international crisis, while 77% feel that way about McCain.

McCain and his allies have portrayed Obama in recent weeks as a naive celebrity who is unprepared to lead the nation in dangerous times. McCain, a Navy aviator who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, has also suggested that Obama would put personal ambition ahead of America's best interests.

With that backdrop, the poll found that 35% of voters have questions about how patriotic Obama is; only 9% wondered how patriotic McCain is. Nearly half of voters say Obama lacks the right experience to be president, while 14% feel that way about McCain.

The poll found that McCain, long an unpopular figure among conservatives, has had more success than Obama in rallying his party's base. Nine out of 10 Republicans favor McCain, while just under 8 in 10 Democrats support Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll20-2008aug20,0,5506138.story?track=rss

-- August 19, 2008 5:36 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Tim:

As I said in a previous post today I am not sure of the validity of the article posted by Paul. After some further examination it appears to be something similar finance minister Jabor announced in November 2007. As few days later the Central Bank Governor denied the idea of a removing three zeros from the Dinar.

We may see some response from the Central Bank Governor to the contrary. If a change of currency is in the works I think Sara's post addresses that concern. I do not see Iraq needing to reprint its currency. Instead, I forsee them introducing the lower denominations and phasing out over time the 5,000 10,000 and 25,000 notes.

The article mentions a two year time frame in order to exchange the larger notes for the new notes. Two years is a long time. How will we exchange the notes? Perhaps the answer lies in the Iraqi's opening up for business in America. Like I have said before, in Iraq we will have to wait and see.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 19, 2008 6:09 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Here we go! Israel was right, Russia is going to sell nuclear missiles to Syria and possibly to Iran. I think they all planned this together.--Laura

Moscow accuses Israel of arming Georgia - day before Assad arrives for big arms purchases
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 19, 2008, 10:49 PM (GMT+02:00)


A reunion to punish Israel for arming Georgia
The timing was precise. Tuesday, Aug. 19, the Russian Deputy Chief of General Staff Col.-Gen. Anatoly Nagovitsyn accused Israel at a Moscow news conference of arming and training the Georgian military.

Wednesday, Syrian president Bashar Assad arrives in the Russian capital for a two-day visit during which the Kremlin fully expects him to exploit the storm clouds blowing in from Georgia over Russian relations with the West to press for sophisticated weapons systems not so far released by Moscow.

On Aug. 17, DEBKAfile military sources reported Moscow's planned retaliation for America's missile interceptors in Poland and US-Israeli military aid to Georgia may come in the form of Iskandar surface missiles installed in Syria and its Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad.

Russian Baltic and Middle East warships, submarines and long-range bombers may be armed with nuclear warheads.

One plan on the table in Moscow to punish Israel, DEBKAfile's sources report, is the establishment of big Russian military, naval and air bases in Syria and the release of advanced weapons systems withheld until now from Iran (the S-300 air-missile defense system) and Syria (the nuclear-capable 200 km-range Iskandar surface missile).

T prepare the ground, Gen. Nagovitsyn charged Israel with arming the Georgian military with mines, explosive charges, special explosives for clearing minefields and “eight kinds of unmanned aerial vehicles.”

He added: “In 2007, Israeli experts trained Georgian commandos in Georgia and planned to supply Tbilisi heavy weaponry, electronic weapons, tanks and other arms at a later date, but the deal didn’t work out,” he said without explaining why.

Nagovitsyn also said that Russian soldiers had detained 20 mercenaries near the Georgian city of Poti, including three Arabs, all wearing Georgian army uniforms.

Laura Parker

-- August 19, 2008 7:08 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article. This one on Lebanon.

May 4. At that point, Israel’s government military heads decided not to interfere, after judging those moves to be unthreatening.

The Americans similarly criticizes Israel for letting Hamas get away with its daily rocket and missile attacks on Israel civilians year after year. A blow to Hizballah would have deterred Hamas from exercising blackmail tactics for a ceasefire. In Sharm el-Sheikh Sunday, May 18, President Bush called on Middle East countries to confront Hamas and isolate terror-sponsors Iran and Syria.

Israel’s Missed Boat in Lebanon

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

June 7, 2008


Hizballah special forces in Beirut
Sunday night, May 11, the Israeli army was poised to strike Hizballah. The Shiite militia was winding up its takeover of West Beirut and battling pro-government forces in the North. When he opened the regular cabinet meeting Sunday, May 11, prime minister Ehud Olmert had already received the go-ahead from Washington for a military strike to halt the Hizballah advance. The message said that President George W. Bush would not call off his visit to Israel to attend its 60th anniversary celebrations and would arrive as planned Wednesday, May 14 - even if the Israeli army was still fighting in Lebanon and Hizballah struck back against Tel Aviv and Ben-Gurion airport.

American intelligence estimated that Hizballah was capable of retaliating against northern Israel at the rate of 600 missiles a day.

Olmert, defense minister Ehud Barak and foreign minister Tzipi Lvini, the only ministers in the picture, decided not to intervene in Lebanon’s civil conflict. Iran’s surrogate army consequently waltzed unchecked to its second victory in two years over the United States and Israel.

DEBKAfile’s US and military sources disclose the arguments Washington marshaled to persuade Israel to go ahead: Hizballah, after its electronic trackers had learned from the Israel army’s communication and telephone networks that not a single troop or tank was on the move, took the calculated risk of transferring more than 5,000 armed men from the South to secure the capture of West Beirut.

This presented a rare moment to take Hizballah by surprise, Washington maintained. The plan outlined in Washington was for the Israeli Air force to bombard Hizballah’s positions in the South, the West and southern Beirut. This would give the pro-government Christian, Sunni and Druze forces the opening for a counter-attack. Israeli tanks would simultaneously drive into the South and head towards Beirut in two columns.

1. The western column would take the Tyre-Sidon-Damour-Beirut coastal highway.

2. The eastern column would press north through Nabatiya, Jezzine, Ain Zchalta and Alei.

Sunday night, Olmert called Lebanese prime minister Fouad Siniora and his allies, the Sunni majority leader Saad Hariri, head of the mainline Druze party Walid Jumblatt and Christian Phalanges chief Samir Geagea and informed them there would be no Israeli strike against Hizballah. Jerusalem would not come to their aid.

According to American sources, the pro-Western front in Beirut collapsed then and there, leaving Hizballah a free path to victory. The recriminations from Washington sharpened day by day and peaked with President Bush’s arrival in Israel.

Our sources report that, behind the protestations of undying American friendship and camaraderie shown in public by the US president, prime minister and Shimon Peres, Bush and his senior aides bitterly reprimanded Israel for its passivity in taking up the military challenge and crushing an avowed enemy in Lebanon.

While the president was busy with ceremonies and speeches, secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and national security adviser Stephen Hadley took Israeli officials to task. Hadley in particular bluntly blamed Israel for the downfall of the pro-Western government bloc in Beirut and its surrender to the pro-Iranian, Pro-Syrian Hizballah. If Israeli forces had struck Hizballah gunmen wile on the move, he said, Hassan Nasrallah would not have seized Beirut and brought the pro-government militias to their knees.

One US official said straight out to Olmert and Barak: For two years, you didn’t raise a finger when Hizballah took delivery of quantities of weapons, including missiles, from Iran and Syria. You did not interfere with Hizballah’s military buildup in southern Lebanon then or its capture of Beirut now.

IDF generals who were present at these conversations reported they have never seen American officials so angry or outspoken. Israel’s original blunder, they said, was its intelligence misreading of Hizballah’s first belligerent moves on

-- August 19, 2008 7:32 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article. I am a little confused though as the date says 7/23/2002 and it was attacked to today's Jewish news. I am not sure if the base was built recently (as the article I was reading was a Taliban attack on a parade with Afghanistan's president in attendance similiar to Eqypt Sadat's president being killed. But in any case, it does give a good glimps at what assets USA has in the area for a middle east confrontation. -Laura

New US Air Base Nears Completion at Shiite Herat, E. Afghanistan


July 23, 2002

Notwithstanding its avowed reluctance to boost its presence in Afghanistan, the United States has launched two critical military steps:

First, A 45-man American unit, including special forces, will move into the presidential palace in Kabul and assume responsibility for Hamid Karzai’s safety. It will replace a contingent of Afghan commandos who will be sent back to base. Concern for the safety of Karzai, a linchpin of US regional interests, is acute since the recent assassination of the vice president.

Second, as DEBKA-Net-Weekly reported exclusively in its last issue on July 19, a spanking new American underground air base is nearing completion south of the Shiite city of Herat in western Afghanistan. To be the largest facility of its kind in that part of the world, it is scheduled to go operational in September as the new home of US aerial forces scattered around the Persian Gulf, Central Asia and other locations in Afghanistan. The base will also house elements of the advanced control and command center dismantled at the Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia and temporarily stored in new US bases in Qatar and Oman, as well as a US special forces position.

The big new installations will stretch the US Air force’s operational scope across Afghanistan and the Caspian Sea region - with its vital oil reserves and natural resources; Central Asia, all of Iran, the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz and the northern Arabian Sea up to Yemen’s Socotra Islands. It will also provide the US air force with a commanding position in relation to Pakistan, India and the western fringes of China. It has not been lost on Iranian strategists that the Herat base is a link in a formidable chain of new facilities the United States is in the process of drawing around their country. Other links, as DEBKA-Net-Weekly reported in Issue 67, are the new air and naval facilities at Assab and Dahlak in the Eritrean archipelago and in Tiblisi, Georgia, as well as those located on Yemen’s SocotraIslands and in the Red Sea port town of Hodeidah.

Not surprisingly. the new base is causing sleepless nights in Tehran. As one source said: “It should be understood that when Iranian leaders see the map of American bases tightening around us like a noose, they are absolutely sure that Washington’s primary goal is first to strangle us, then kills us off.”

Iran’s leaders had counted on the local Afghan Shiite leader, Ismail Khan, drawing the line against US military advances in his turf. But the speed with which he changed his spots reflects the increasing feebleness of the ayatollahs’ regime in Tehran.

-- August 19, 2008 7:58 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

In the news, in the last couple of days, Obama and McCain are getting closer to picking a VP running mate.

I said on this blog a while back that I thought Obama would pick Joe Biden. Looks like Biden's name is on Obama's shortlist. Biden came out with a plan, a while back, to break up Iraq, into 3 separate countries, if things got too rough in Iraq, and the country couldn't stay together. If Obama picks Biden, he will pick someone who has a lot of foreign policy experience, which is Obama's big weakness. (Which is why I thought Obama would pick him in the first place.) Biden's views on Iraq, of splitting it up, would dovetail with Obama's views. It would send a signal to the Iraqis, if Obama wins the election: America is going to pull out, because the new president doesn't want American troops in Iraq, so you better get your act together. And if your country falls apart, tough luck, because we are prepared to let your country fall apart. Since the Sunnis are a small minority, and their land contains little oil, and they stand to lose big-time if Iraq split up, this would effectively be a gun to the head of the Sunnis, pressuring them to reconcile with the Shiites. And I think this has been Obama's Iraq strategy, right from the start. He is not a war leader, but he is a political games-player. He's not interested in leading a war, and rebuilding Iraq, and finishing the job. His Iraq strategy revolves around coersion. He knows perfectly well America is winning the war there. He knows that if America leaves too soon, the whole thing could blow up in his face.....And he could care less.

As far as Obama is concerned, the only war strategy he is interested in is coercing the Iraqis into reconciling, and if that doesn't work, letting Iraq fall apart. It's the velvet glove holding a gun approach.

That wouldn't be good for our investments.

So while Joe Biden will look good, on paper, because Joe has foreign policy experience, and has a presidential look about him, I think in reality, Joe's ideas about letting Iraq fall apart into 3 separate countries might, or might not, turn out to be an absolute disaster. It depends on what happens politically, in Iraq, but it is a very dangerous plan, IMHO.

It'll be interesting to see if I guessed right about Obama's pick.

I also pushed Mitt Romney, on this blog, for President, a while back, because I think he is one of the most intelligent men in politics. He's pro-choice, which would appeal to conservative Christians, which is John McCain's achilles heal. The other thing is, whatever you think about Mitt or Mormons, no one can deny Mitt has an absolutely brilliant mind for business, and economics, which is another big weakness of John McCain. So we'll see if John McCain picks Romney.

And while Mitt Romney brings no foreign policy experience to the ticket, the truth is, John McCain needs more foreign policy experience like Ronald McDonald needs more hamburgers!!

-- August 19, 2008 11:28 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on the Georgia crisis.

NATO freezes contacts with Moscow amid conflicting reports from Georgia
August 19, 2008, 10:56 PM (GMT+02:00)

NATO Secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer - no hurry to admit Georgia
According to some reporters, a small column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles left Gori, Tuesday, Aug. 19, but there was no other visible sign of a Russian withdrawal as demanded by the West. Moscow has agreed to the first 20 international ceasefire monitors being sent out to Georgia “very quickly” as US secretary of state Condoleezza reported Tuesday, after a NATO crisis meeting, but no moves to speed up Georgia’s admission to the Atlantic Alliance were announced.
Speaking later, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said the Russian pull-out to pre-conflict positions should be completed within three or four days, provided Georgia complied with its ceasefire obligations. He said Georgian troops had not returned to their barracks. Lavrov accused NATO of “trying to make a victim of the aggressor to absolve of guilt a criminal regime.”
Earlier, Russia and Georgia exchanged prisoners, handing over 15 Georgians and six Russians, two of them pilots. In the Black Sea port of Poti in western Georgia, Russian soldiers were seen capturing 20 Georgians and commandeering four American Humvees used in US-Georgian military exercises. The White House later issued a statement that any equipment Russia has taken in Georgia “needs to be returned immediately.”
Correspondents reported Monday that the Russians had “stripped down” NATO-standard equipment at a Georgian military installation outside Poti, seizing some hardware and destroying other pieces, including a Georgian coast guard vessel.
Stepping up the pressure on Tbilisi, Moscow closed its land border with Georgia and neighboring Azerbaijan to citizens who are not from the CIS, a grouping of former Soviet states. Air, sea and rails links have been cut, placing Georgia under a virtual blockade.
Russian troops are building a security zone on the Georgian side of the South Ossetian border and Russian checkpoints block the main east-west highway which links Tbiisi with the Black Sea ports.

-- August 19, 2008 11:34 PM


Roger In Iraq wrote:

Hi All,

I have been in Iraq for a while now, and got into the grove of things here, I am relocated from Anaconda and are serving in a nearby base.

There is a lot of things needed in Iraq, a lot of things.

First, competency. The infrastructure is abysmal, the roads are neglected. The maindrag that goes through Iraq, is a freeway that is so full of potholes that you have to keep a slow speed, bridges are mostly blown, with a temporary steel bridge covering the hole. They have not invented the painted road lines here yet.

The Iraqi Army manning check points, can be seen with the Iraqi personell sleeping, playing cards, or just "being on the clock", with no other presence other than they have to be there, for the shift.

It is one of the riches countries in the world, but have not reached it's potential, and is far far from it.

I am stationed in the bulls eye of one of the few remaining "hot spots".

Ramadan is coming up, and traditionally even though the bombs and the fighting have been drastically reduced, it seems to follow the same pattern pretty much as the years goes by.

Before Ramadan the intensity increases, then during the Ramadan, the Iraqis will become spiritual and holy or whatever, and the intensity goes down, then after the Ramadan they pick up where they left it before the Ramadan, and the intensity starts to peter out until the rain season where everything stops.

I have seen one district in where we have a hard time, Sadr city, it is a slum city filled with Shiite , neglected during Saddams regime, and today is one of the sadest places on earth.

The streets are completely filled with garbage, junk, and what ever is left of any pavement is strewn around, pack of dogs roam around, eating what they can, the side of the streets are filled with junk, old car parts, cracked cement fixtures, old fridges, ..you name it. Manholes in the streets are mostly just gone, and a tire is marking the place.

Businesses are mainly temporary stands, where people are selling fruits, or other eatables, or a "hole in the wall" shop, where you can get cigs or sodas.

US army is cleaning up the streets, with an army of trucks, and are setting up cement walls all around the city, to make enclaves where insurgents can be trapped in.

The place seems like a constructionsite, where everything is covered in grey dust. The air here is very dusty, and so far I have not seen one day with crisp clean air, you see the sun go up or down as a red ball trying to penetrate the dust. Sometimes dust storms kick in, and it can get so dark you can't see in front of you, because the sust is effectively stopping the sun from shining through, it is actually dark, not just like a couple of thick rain clouds overhead, it is dark.

The rules in traffic is, Biggest Vehicle wins.

I have seen on a rare occasion or so, newer cars, but the norm is mostly a car from the 70's or 80's that are banged up beyond belief.

I have seen some very bizzare things also, in the slum of Sadr city, in the middle of the night, there was a bus parked, on the side, it looked faily new, but was packed in together with all the other junk, so it could not go anywhere, trapped by junk. It was a bus with the markings of a Greyhound bus, totally mis placed.

Women are dressed with a black bag over their heads, and most men run around with a kind of a pyamas.

Granted I am at a hot spot, and a slum city, and there could very well be other places in Iraq that are more up scale, but so far, I have seen mostly people that are in need of a well paid job.

I am driving an up armored vehicle, mostly at night time, and in convoy, as of writing time I have been driving for a little more than a week, and my convoy have taken gunfire and IED's. The one I witnessed, targeted a gun truck, and all survived, but the gunship burned up. It looked like a big firework where you get a million shooting stars from the explosion, the concussion a second later shaked me severely.

The team I am driving in, the run before that, the day before I started, an IED got another guntruck, and they were not that fortunate, we lost one military guy, and another lost his legs.

I was participating in the killed soldiers memorial, we had it on the base.

It was a touching event, they had a last roll call, a couple of soldiers answered when their name came up, and then they called the dead soldiers name, and no reply, 400 of us stood up in silence waiting for his reply that never came.

The only thing we heard after a minutes silence was a gun salute, and taps, that confirmed that he will never answer a roll call again.

This particular soldier had been home a couple of months ago, and just seen his first newborn baby.

Even if we know that the widow will get support in one form or the other, we all, at the company I work for, passed the hat, and in a very small group of people we menaged to get together about 4000 bucks for the widow. No substitute for the death of her husband, but hope it helps.

Before we all go out, we have always a Pow Wow, the drivers and the military, and go through the particulars of each run, and we are a tight knit group.

We are one group when we go out.

We can not carry weapons, but I feel fully confident in having the military sitting on top of those armoured carriers.

After all, an 18 year old having been brought up in front of a screen shooting mosters and blobs, and defeating evil forces all his life, have the perfect education for this.

Give a trigger happy 18 year old, on a sugar kick, a 50 caliber, and I would say that, that combination alone is devastation.

You just can't go wrong with that.

What we are seing right now, is very much the infiltration of Iranian made high tech explosive devices, that are penetrating armor.

Iraq and Afghanistan have two very similar conditions.

Both countries have a proximity country that is doing everything it can to overthrow the democracy movement.

Iraq, have Iran, and Afghanistan have the uncontrolled provinces of northern Pakistan.

As long as the enemy are controlling those two pieces of real estate, we can not completely win this war on terror.

Those two areas have to get under control, for Irans part, I think the clock is ticking, but have no idea about the Pakistani situation, it is getting a bit unstable there right now, Musharrif, the Pakistani president seems to be on the way out, and exactly what that means in Pakistan, is at this moment a bit unclear.

However, for Iran, there is no way around it, the clock is ticking.

About the Dinar, you seem to have more information on this blog than I have, where I am located right now, I have very little info. I have not even run into a good rumor here.

Even though it can be argued that I am a war pimp, making good money, I still feel that I am supporting the cause, against terrorism, support our troops, and support our way of life as free beings on this earth.

(Of course I can not deny, that I have bagged another experience to my life also, and despite how much money we are talking about, this trip over here have enriched me in ways no money can buy)

I will end this letter with a greeting to you all, and hope that you are well and are keeping on being the happy campers that you are.

I can not guarantee frequent vistis here, but I will try as much as I can, you feel a bit like my family now.

I love you all.

Roger

-- August 19, 2008 11:54 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I have run across a two year old article that outlines some of USA, Canada ships in the Persian/Indian Ocean area. Thought you all might want to view this article for that reason. Also, what countries joined USA in the sea exercise is also interesting.


US-Led Military Thrust Focuses Heavily on Broad Naval Deployment

DEBKAfile Exclusive Military Report

October 30, 2006

Hundreds of US and allied war ships foregathered in the strategic seas of the Middle East and India in the last days of October 2006 for two primary missions: To prepare for a US-led military strike against Iran which has stepped up its uranium enrichment program with a second centrifuge project - undeterred by the prospect of UN sanctions; and measures to fend off palpable al Qaeda threats to oil targets.

DEBKAfile’s military sources provide details of the massive deployments:

1. A large-scale US-Indian sea exercise called Malabar 06 is in progress off the Indian coast of Goa, ending Nov. 5. The American vessels taking part are the USS Boxer carrier, the USS Bunker Hill guided missile battle cruiser, the guided missile destroyer USS Howard and the USS Benfold , as well as the Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine Providence and the Canadian guided missile frigate HMCS Ottawa .

Indian maritime might is displayed with its warships like INS Beas , INS Mysore , INS Shakti , INS Ganga , tanking ship INS Gharial , submarine INS Shankush and Coast Guard ship CGS Samar

Malabar also involves the landing of large number of soldiers ashore, ahead of the Indian acquisition of the massive amphibious USS Trenton transport dock which can carry six helicopters and about a 1000 soldiers.

Our Tehran sources report that last Thursday, Oct. 26, Iranian officials were seriously rattled by a rumor that an Iranian spy plane had located the USS Boxer heading for the Persian Gulf. It prompted fears of an imminent American military assault to lift Republican prospects in the coming US midterm elections of Nov. 7. In any case, the Iranians suspect that at the end of the joint US-Indian exercise in the Arabian Sea, Boxer will veer west and head into the Persian Gulf. There would then be four US air carriers with task forces parked opposite Iranian shores, including the USS Enterprise Strike Group, the USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group and the USS Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, which are already in place.

According to the intelligence reaching Iran, the Boxer and its escorts carry 850 Marines who have just spent months in special training for operations on offshore oil rigs and platforms.

2. American, Italy, France, Britain, Australia, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait are taking part in an exercise practicing the interception of ships carrying nuclear materials or components for use in advanced weapons. The exercise opposite Bahrain is the first to be held in the Persian Gulf under the three-year old proliferation security initiative. It applications could be translated equally into the enforcement of sanctions against North Korea, which conducted its first nuclear test on Oct. 9, or Iran.

On Oct. 27, Robert Joseph, the US undersecretary of state for arms control remarked: “From Iranian news reports we know the exercise got the attention of Iran.” But rather than climbing down, Tehran referred two days later to the war games as “adventurous” and placed its armed forces on a high alert which encompassed the joint naval units of the military and Revolutionary Guards in the Persian Gulf, while the Revolutionary Guards, the Iranian army, navy and air force were placed on “yellow” alert, one level short of full war.

Also Oct. 29, , supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei replaced Iran’s air force chief, Karim Qavami with Brig Gen Capt Ahmad Miqani, on the recommendation of the Revolutionary Guards commander.

DEBKAfile’s Iran sources report that Khamenei did not approve of Qavami’s admiration for America’s military capabilities – especially the US air force’s advanced aircraft and equipment. Qavami was wont to speak out at general staff meetings in favor of procuring a new air fleet the better to stand up to a possible US attack. His successor follows the supreme ruler unquestioningly and has complete faith in the ability

3. Saudi Arabia did not join the multinational Bahrain exercise, but instead mustered its entire navy and all its special forces for deployment in dense defensive array around the biggest oil terminal in the world, at Ras Tanura. Riyadh acted in response to tangible intelligence that al Qaeda is preparing to attack its oil installations.

Warnings have intensified in recent days of impending al Qaeda attacks on the oil fields, oil ports, oil tankers and oil fields of Saudi Arabia and the Arabian oil emirates. One threat specifically targets the Bahraini offices and staff of the Benin Republic’s Societe Togolaise de Gaz and Societe Bengaz S.A.

It is not clear exactly why al Qaeda is targeting this African-owned oil company in particular. In addition, the US embassy in Riyadh has warned Americans operating in the Gulf region to stay clear of all oil installations, especially in Saudi Arabia. Another pointed alert covers Western residential compounds in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries, specifying American expatriates as al Qaeda targets. Saudi security forces are standing guard at these compounds which were fatally attacked in November exactly three years ago.

4. The fourth major naval concentration is deployed in the Red Sea along Saudi Arabia’s west coast. The oil kingdom has placed its military and fleet at their highest level of preparedness for Al Qaeda-instigated terrorist attacks along this coast, particularly at the ports of Jeddah and Yanbu.

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report: That the Saudis have by and large switched their defenses against al Qaeda to coastal targets indicates the receipt of intelligence input of a new local sea base established by al Qaeda, which enables the jihadist group to stretch its capabilities for assaulting oil and Western shore targets from the sea. This base might be located on the shore of a Gulf nation, somewhere in the Arabian Sea or in the Horn of Africa.

Roger,

Thank you for dropping into the blog and letting us know how you are. I was hoping that those caravans were settling down without the IED's and gunfire but it looks like I was wrong. Please, be careful.

Your description of overall conditions in Iraq does not sound that great. This may explain some of the issues of non-rv and political unrest.

I hope you had a chance to read the blog. You will note that USA has aircraft activity in the general vicinity. The report from Jewish news stated 40 ships with the support of 4 or 5 air carriers. We are not sure what their mission is at this time.

I hope you get some news of some type and have heard about Russia's invasion of Georgia. This is important as it has to do with oil and natural gas pipelines. Russia has occupied the land to cut off access to the pipelines of the american gas companies like shell, chevron and others to the Baltic sea. Of course, the pretence is that Russia is protecting South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Mikhail Saakashvili, President of Georgia. Iran has politically and militarily taken over in Lebanon having set themselves and Syria upon three mountains over looking Israel. I read somewhere that Israel is going to start attacking these sites soon.

It sounds like you have had a couple of very bad days in the trucks with IED's. Be careful and I will pray for your safety. I know, I also speak for the rest of the board on your being careful and staying safe.


Laura Parker

-- August 20, 2008 12:24 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another old article but I believe an interesting on on Irans capabilities on the Persian Gulf. I am sure the USA military is aware of this cruise missile.

Iran Builds Cruise Missile

From DEBKA-Net-Weekly 143 Jan 30, 2003

February 6, 2004


Iran's threat to Gulf shipping
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary regime last month marked the 25th anniversary of its victory over the Shah by launching a sophisticated missile dubbed Raad and its accompanying advanced radar system designated DM-3b. Minister of defense Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani led the ceremony in full naval dress uniform.

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The official handout described the radar system as navigating and guiding the combatant missile in its final stage. The medium-range Raad missile is equipped with a self-guidance device. Shamkhani enthused: the two systems manufactured in Iran’s state aviation industry further enhance the capabilities of Iranian armed forces.

What the handout did not reveal was that Raad is no ordinary coastal or shipboard projectile but a cruise missile, capable of halting Personal Gulf shipping by blockading the Hormuz Strait. It can also choke off incoming and outgoing sea traffic via the Shatt al-Arb, Iraq’s only exit point for its oil exports and entrance for its vital imports.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly ’s Gulf sources report launching bases for the new missiles are going up at four places on Iran’s Gulf coast: the northern end at Bandar a-Khomeini opposite the mouth of the Shatt al Arb and facing Kuwait and Bahrain, at Bushehr, site of its nuclear reactor, at the big Bandar Abbas naval base and Revolutionary Guards headquarters, and at Bandar e-Lengeh west of Qeshm Island.

From these installations, Iranian missiles will cover the tanker and merchant ship lanes leading into the Persian Gulf from the Indian Ocean through the Gulf of Aden.

A fifth launching base will be located on the small highly-strategic island of Great Tumb situated just north of the Hormuz Strait at the mouth of the Gulf.

According to our military experts, the locations of the new Raad missile bases betray both aggressive intent and determination to defend Iran’s Gulf shore from assault by warships or hostile marine landings. Iran’s military command appears to be preparing the country’s national defenses for an anticipated American attack in the course of 2004 or early 2005.


Laura Parker

-- August 20, 2008 12:55 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Roger,

Good to hear from you. Stay safe. Enjoy your opportunity.

Roger, you say that Iraq has a big shortage of competancy. No doubt you are right. And then there are tremendous security challenges, that you see, every day, first hand.

This reminds me of a study done by a couple of economists who tried to figure our the role of different factors, in creating wealth. The biggest part of wealth creation, about 60%, if I remember right, was "intellectual capital". In other words, competancy, or what is in people's heads. If you have a lot of competent people, eventually you will have wealth. And security concerns were about 20% of the equation.

And this is why Barack Obama's idea to leave Iraq is so stupid and unworkable. Iraqis need security, to develop. They do not need the insecurity that comes from giving up on fighting insurgents. And the plan, to this point, on developing Iraq, is to steer Iraq toward a free market economy.

If a free market economy happens, and Iraq is secure, then competent people can come to Iraq. The model for economic development in the Persian Gulf seems to be to bring in a lot of foreign workers, like engineers, professionals etc. Iraq needs this badly because, as you said, competance is in a shortage.

If John McCain is elected, America will stay in Iraq as long as it takes to establish security, and get a market based economy rolling, which, when coupled with Iraq's tremendous oil wealth, is the magic combination, for producing tremendous wealth, for Iraqis and investors like the people on this site.

On their own, if America leaves, Iraq would take 40 years to economically progress as much as they could do in 5 years, if they let in lots and lots of competent foreign workers, like yourself, and professionals.

Collect oil revenue, I say, and pay Iraqis to sit around and be mostly security guards, just like in Dubai, where most work is done by foreigners.

And let the engineers and competent non-Iraqi oil people do their jobs, and make the place work.

That would be a plan that would work.

Anyhow,

Stay safe, Roger, we'll all be thinking of you.

-- August 20, 2008 1:09 AM


Sara wrote:

I do admit relief at reading this:

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Iran satellite launch a failure: U.S. official
Tue Aug 19, 2008
Reporting by Randall Mikkelsen; Editing by Kristin Roberts

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iran's attempt to launch a dummy satellite into orbit was a "dramatic failure" that fell far short of the country's assertions of success, a U.S. official said on Tuesday.

"The attempted launch failed," the official said.

"The vehicle failed shortly after liftoff and in no way reached its intended position," the official said. "It could be characterized as a dramatic failure."

Iran, embroiled in a standoff with the West over its nuclear ambitions, said on Sunday it has put a dummy satellite into orbit on a home-grown rocket for the first time, using a technology that could also be used for launching weapons. Iran says it has no nuclear-weapons plans and that it seeks nuclear technology to generate electricity.

Iranian television showed the rocket on its launch pad, but did not show the actual lift-off.

"The failed launch shows that the purported Iranian space program is in its nascent stages at best -- they have a long way to go," the U.S. official said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1935578420080819

-- August 20, 2008 2:29 AM


Sara wrote:

Roger - HUGGGgggggg!
Glad to hear from you.. you are definitely in my prayers daily. :)

So very sorry to hear of the losses sustained just before you started work there..
In spite of such tragic losses, the work they all.. and you, are doing.. is of great value.
Without it, there could be no progress toward the goals Iraq and the US have - including greater US security.
As someone once said.. it is better to fight them over there, than here.
It is appreciated. Thank you. And thanks to those who serve with you...
and the sacrifices they and their families make every day to accomplish a worthwhile mission.

As for the slum you are near or in.. when you say, "Granted I am at a hot spot, and a slum city, and there could very well be other places in Iraq that are more up scale, but so far, I have seen mostly people that are in need of a well paid job."

I think the Dinar RV will HELP this situation of job creation and helping the Iraqi people monetarily in a tremendous way. Iraq needs the RV to compete and attract people from abroad, creating new jobs - as well as to make it possible to buy goods from outside the country more cheaply. This addresses this key concern in a very tangible and concrete way which will help their country to prosper and the people to become better off.

When you say, "What we are seing right now, is very much the infiltration of Iranian made high tech explosive devices, that are penetrating armor." That makes it so very obvious that the Iraqis would have a greatly diminished problem (if they had one at all) if they only did not have IRAN supplying the fighting with their weaponry and training. It is truly a proxy war between the US and Iran, with the unfortunate Iraqis in the middle of the two. But the US winning will bring the Iraqis peace, security, stability AND FREEDOM, whereas Iran would not give them freedom, if they were to win. And the Iraqis did not start out with an ideal situation which was ruined, but they started out under a very cruel despot and dictator, so that what they are going through now, though unpleasant, at least has hope in it. Whereas, under Saddam, they had only his despotic rule to look forward to, or the continuation of it under one of his own. At least their suffering now, unlike under Saddam, has a reason and direction.. which will bring them to a better place for them and their families, in freedom.. Obama not getting in and abandoning them (as timbitts discussed with his post on Biden as Obama's possible VP) being taken as a given.

You take care there, as you are like family and we appreciate you. :)
We also miss your often input and insight and hope you will return from time to time to post more to us.

timbitts and Rob N and Laura.. great posts.. appreciate all the insights. Bit late, more later, Nite all.

Sara.

-- August 20, 2008 2:55 AM


Carl wrote:

Roger...
Good detail from my eyes to yours report...I almost could taste the dust in my mouth.....

-- August 20, 2008 8:09 AM


Carl wrote:

Sara...
You ask about my opinion regarding Iraq...

Nothing has changed....corruption still exist but on a more selective scale...Iran is still goating the West and its allies to attack....which is what they have always wanted....the arab leaque appears to continue to sit on its butt and let Iran beat the drum.....
When the candle is lit for Iran, I don't know but I would say someone has already taken the match from their pocket...When it happens this old world is going to get quite spirited indeed...

-- August 20, 2008 8:14 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's Central Bank maintains accredited interest rates

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Wednesday , 20 /08 /2008 Time 4:20:55




BAGHDAD, Aug. 19 (VOI) – The Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) on Tuesday announced that it will keep its accredited interest rates without changes, with a bank source saying that the bank gives an interest on deposits of 16 percent.

"The bank will use monetary policy tools to absorb the consequences of the external price shock in a manner that achieves the required stability in the national economy," according to a statement released by the bank and received by Aswat al-Iraq ­- Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
The statement did not reveal the interest rate paid by the bank on deposit accounts.
"The announcement was made following a slight increase had been reported in the annual inflation index for the month of July 2008, compared to the same month last year," the statement added.
Meanwhile, another bank source said that the interest rate paid by the bank on deposits is 16 percent, in comparison to 12 percent given by national banks to depositors.
Yesterday, a bank source told VOI that the annual inflation index reached 13.6 percent in July 2008 compared to 12.4 percent in June of the same year.
"The inflation started to affect the local prices," he underlined.
Meanwhile, the National Information Center said in a statement that the CBI will keep the interest rate unchanged after the increase in the inflation index during July.
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 20, 2008 9:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kurdish Control of Kirkuk Creates a Powder Keg in Iraq
By Richard A. Oppel Jr.

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Kirkuk, 20 August 2008 (New York Times)
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The phone rang, and it was answered by a Kurdish security commander, Hallo Najat, sitting in his office in this deeply divided city. On the line, he said, was a United Nations official wanting to know whether it was true that the Kurdish militia, the pesh merga, had left its bases in northern Iraq and was occupying Kirkuk.

No, Mr. Najat told the caller. But after hanging up, he wryly revealed the deeper truth about Kirkuk, combustible for its mix of ethnicities floating together on a sea of oil: the Kurds already control it.

“It’s true,” Mr. Najat said. “What is the need for the troops?”

Of all the political problems facing Iraq today, perhaps none is so intractable as the fate of Kirkuk, a city of 900,000 that Kurds, Arabs and Turkmens all claim as their own. The explosive quarrel over the city is one major barrier to creating stable political structures in the rest of Iraq.

Beyond that, it demonstrates that despite a recent decline in violence, Iraq’s unsettled ethnic and regional discord could still upend directives emanating from Baghdad and destabilize large swaths of the country — or even set off a civil war.

This month, legislation in the national Parliament to set the groundwork for crucial provincial elections collapsed in a bitter dispute over Kirkuk, as Arabs and Turkmens demanded that the Kurds be forced to cede some of their power here. But with the Kurds having already consolidated their authority in Kirkuk, there seemed little chance — short of a military intervention — of that happening.

Kurdish authority is visible everywhere in the city. In addition to the provincial government and command of the police, the Kurds control the Asaish, the feared undercover security service that works with the American military and, according to Asaish commanders, United States intelligence agencies.

Asaish officers are often the first to the scene of an attack and, other Kurdish officials concede, seem always to have the best intelligence. The leaders of the Asaish report only to the dominant Kurdish political parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

“He’s my boss,” said Mr. Najat, the commander of the K.D.P. Asaish force in Kirkuk, glancing at a picture of Masrur Barzani, the head of intelligence for the K.D.P. and the son of the party’s leader, Massoud Barzani.

The Kurds’ control over the security forces — and their ability to use it for political purposes — was evident three weeks ago, rival groups say, after a suicide bomber attacked Kurdish demonstrators, igniting a riot that left dozens dead and hundreds wounded.

After the attack, a mob of Kurds set upon a Turkmen political headquarters, eventually firebombing the building. At some point, the Turkmen guards inside fired at the crowd. All in all, American officials say they believe, far more people were killed and wounded in the riot than in the bombing that touched it off.

Yet, while the police quickly arrested 13 Turkmens at the headquarters, charging them with firing on the crowd, they did not apprehend any of the Kurds who burned the building. One of the Turkmen guards wounded in the fighting was quickly interrogated at the hospital by the Asaish and the police. A video, in which the guard says he was ordered to fire on the crowd, soon appeared on Kurdish television.

Kurdish police commanders promise an impartial investigation of the bombing and its aftermath, overseen by officers from all of the city’s ethnic groups. But the senior Turkmen on the force, Maj. Gen. Turhan Abdul-Rahman Youssef, fears a whitewash.

“I don’t think we will have a result,” he said, describing the broadcast showing the wounded Turkmen guard as “illegal.”

The Kurds’ accumulation of power has stoked tensions with Arabs and Turkmens. “There is much fear,” said Mohammed Khalil, the leader of the Arab bloc on the provincial council. “The Asaish are saying they will annex Kirkuk by force, and that is terrifying people.” Arabs also say the Asaish carry out kidnappings, a charge Asaish officers deny.

But rival ethnic leaders also warn that the Kurds’ control of the security forces will not prevent chaos in the event of an outbreak of ethnic fighting. The city’s Arabs, Mr. Khalil said, “will not stay handcuffed by Kurdish actions.”

Under Saddam Hussein, tens of thousands of Kurdish families were ousted from Kirkuk, replaced by Arabs as part of his drive to obtain a firmer political grip on the enormous oil reserves here. But after the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, Kurdish militiamen reversed the process, driving out Arabs and bringing in Kurds. Arabs and Turkmens now make up about 40 percent of Kirkuk’s population, according to American military estimates.

The Kurds want to fold Kirkuk into the neighboring Kurdistan region. They also warn that any plan stripping them of power will be harshly contested.

“Its fate will be failure,” said Nejad Hassan, the senior Kurdistan Democratic Party official in Kirkuk.

After the suicide bombing, that conflict was evident in a dispute about whether to bring a substantial number of Iraqi troops into the city, in a direct challenge to Kurdish supremacy.

In a series of sweeps conducted with the Americans, the Iraqi Army has helped establish stability this year in other volatile parts of Iraq. But Iraqi troops have largely stayed out of Kirkuk.

After the July 28 attacks, however, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki ordered in a battalion from a nearby base. The troops took up positions in the city.

Aware that part of the proposal being debated in Baghdad was to send a far larger force from central and southern Iraq to administer security — which would mean a mostly Arab force, loyal to the Baghdad government, set against Kurdish-controlled forces — the Kurds objected strenuously.

Kurds were not the only ones opposing the deployment of a major Arab security force after the violence. The American military commander here, Col. David Paschal, said he feared that if Baghdad sent in additional troops, Kurdish leaders would retaliate by sending in their own militia from northern Iraq, creating a potentially disastrous confrontation.

“I just saw this continued escalation of force happening,” he said. Baghdad is expected to withdraw the troops, according to American commanders.

Colonel Paschal blames all the political parties for inflaming tensions to serve their interests. But he said it was difficult to comprehend the level of mistrust.

“Negotiations here are, ‘You give me everything I want, and I will walk away happy,’ ” he said. “It is hard for us to appreciate the level of ethnic hatred.”

The severity of those tensions became indisputably clear three weeks ago when thousands of Kurds poured into central Kirkuk to protest the power-sharing proposal in Baghdad.

In a video that American commanders say they believe to be authentic, a young man who the Americans say appears to be the bomber, not a woman as Kurdish officials initially said, can be seen standing in a sea of demonstrators. He ritualistically raises his hands, palms up, toward his face, then lowers them to his side. An instant later the explosion engulfs him and everyone around him.

It took only a few moments for the demonstrators to turn their fury on the Turkmens, whom they instantly blamed. One mistook a well-known Kurdish journalist, Yahya Barzanji, for a Turkmen correspondent, shouting, “He’s working for the Turkmens,” Mr. Barzanji recalled. A video captured the crowd furiously beating Mr. Barzanji, chanting: “Kill him! Kill him!”

Within minutes the mob was in front of the Turkmen party headquarters. While American and Kurdish officials agree that the Turkmen guards fired into the crowd, Colonel Paschal — who watched the skirmish unfold in a video feed from a remotely piloted aerial drone — said that the Turkmens did not appear to fire wantonly, and that they instead gradually escalated until they were firing directly into a large and growing mob that posed a threat.

All told, at least 28 people died and 213 were wounded in the suicide attack and the ensuing riot, according to the Asaish commander at the main hospital. Kurdish authorities have sought to play down the intensity of the fight between the Kurds and the Turkmens, but Colonel Paschal said most of the casualties were sustained during the riot.

Despite this outbreak, Colonel Paschal said attacks in Kirkuk had dropped by two-thirds since last summer. Kurds attribute some of that improvement to the Asaish.

“They are in direct contact with the people,” said Hemin Shafiq, a 24-year-old policeman. “They are more rapid. That is why they are much more active than the police.”

Rifat Abdullah, the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan here, said: “The Asaish have lots of sources, and that’s why the Americans depend on them and the police depend on them. That might explain why they have more power.”

General Turhan admitted that the Asaish officers were, at times, more powerful than the police, and he said there were thousands of Asaish in the city, though Kurdish officials say there are no more than 1,000. “They have a major role combating terrorism, but the problem is they are loyal to the political parties,” he said.

In an interview, the provincial police chief, Maj. Gen. Jamal Taher, a Kurd, did not answer a question about whether he had the power to control the activities of the Asaish. But he praised their ability to ferret out information.

“Maybe they have better sources than me,” he said.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 20, 2008 9:41 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq in Final Stages of Talks on Gas Project

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20 August 2008 (AFX News Limited)
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Iraq is in the final stages of negotiations with a large global oil company on a joint venture to produce and export natural gas, Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani was quoted as saying on Tuesday.

"Now we are in the final stages of talks with one of the biggest global companies to establish a joint venture, in which Iraq will hold the largest stake, to collect and produce the gas, to supply electric power and liquify the surplus and export it," Shahristani said in an interview with the an-Noor newspaper.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 20, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Al Saniora stresses on the necessity to strengthen economic relations between Lebanon and Iraq

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20 August 2008 (Iraq Directory)
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The Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Al Saniora stressed on the eve of his next official visit to Baghdad the need to strengthen bilateral relations between his country and Iraq at all levels, especially the economic level.

Al Saniora clarified that Iraq is a big country and a traditional trading partner to his country and hoped that communication will reach the interests of both countries.

The Lebanese prime minister added in a speech:

"Over the past decades Iraq was the most important trading partner of Lebanon, but the circumstances led Iraq to the present conditions. Iraq is a big and brotherly country, and needs many goods and services that can be provided by Lebanon. Iraq is a country with vast resources, particularly Oil resources, and we suffer from a fundamental problem with regard to oil, and then this is an opportunity for us to establish communication milestones between Lebanon and Iraq, and the preparations for mutual beneficial relationship between the two countries.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 20, 2008 9:45 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

As always it is good to hear from you. It sounds as though you are smack dab in the middle of the action. The picture you painted of where you are stationed hastens the need for the GoI and parliment to get off of their collective haunches and begin to implement that 79 Billion in revenue in budgeted spending.

In my view, it is difficult to move forward on provincial elections and the much awaited HCL if basic services and country's infastructure is still in disarray. On the other hand, I read where Iraq needs approximately 400 billion to fix their infastructure. Without the Hydro Carbon Law or the enactment of the Foregin Investment Law (FDI)the necessary money needed will not flow into the country.

It is unfortunate for Iraq that the country has leadership both in Parliment and the Executive branch with little or no experience with these issues. Al-Malaki instead of relying on U.S. expertise wants a time horizion to withdraw. Obama and Biden are incorrect in their assessment of this country. We cannot quit in the middle of what has begun. The U.S. must see this through to its logical conclusion.

I cannot see how the Central Bank govenor can continue with a managed rate of the currency worth less than one U.S. penny. A shattered currency fosters continued poverty, anger, and alligence to the islamic extremists we are battling. On the other hand with a shattered infrastructure and an non-existant economy a radical increase in the exchange rate could foster an uncontrollable inflation rate with food prices appreciating at a faster pace.

It seems to me before a change in the exchange rate occurs basic services and infastructure must be established or repaired. Next, to attract more foregin investment the HCL still needs to be passed. The oil majors will supply the necessary funding to help the Iraqi oil sector. Once the oil begins to flow it will be necessary for Iraq to monetize its oil (petro dinar). Iraq will want to adjust the exchange rate at this point to establish the "real rate" of the Iraqi Dinar. In my view, the real rate can only be established by a limited free float.

With the influx of revenue of continued oil sales Iraq can begin to invest in its own agriculture and manufacturing sectors. Establishing a functioning economy with a trackable GDP.

Iraq is like any other governmental agency, it is slow to react to the needs of the people of their country.


Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 20, 2008 10:14 AM


Sara wrote:

Thanks for the reply, Carl. :)

It does seem an inevitable direction whose momentum we are unable to stop.. no matter our desires for peace. When one party (Iran) chooses war, the other parties involved cannot have peace, no matter how many resolutions they draw up and plead for Iran to sign.

Sara.

-- August 20, 2008 10:56 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Bill Mahr is an Idiot

I watched comedian Bill Mahr on TV last night, on the Larry King Show. Bill Mahr is a rare comedian. He likes to think, and challenge and question people, on politics and religion. A lot of relgious people think he is an immoral pig, (which he often is) so they won't watch him.

But if you don't watch him, you can't think about what he says, and challenge it. And so much of what Bill says is nonsense, and I wish conservative Christians would challenge Bill, and what he says, because Bill sure lays the lumber on the Christian community, and treats them with complete disrespect, in his act.

Bill Mahr is a typical liberal, and comes across as a supremely self-confident know-it-all, even about things he's clueless about.

Take Iraq, for example. He's against anything America does in Iraq. He said last night that "the biggest problem in Iraq was the presence of American troops there". Wow, the historical ignorance of that statement is staggering. So, Bill's solution to the situation in Iraq, is simply to leave. In other words, the Obama I- don't-give-a-dam I'm just leaving approach.

And where would this childish approach leave the world? Well, if America leaves, and Iran gets ahold of the country, which they'd like to, it would leave the world and the middle east in a very terrible spot. At a time when oil prices are high, if Iran ever controlled Iraqi oil, probably a quarter of the remaining cheap oil on the planet, then terrorist organizations would have a field day. And Iran could challenge other middle eastern countries militarily to establish a Shiite Persian empire.

Is this what Bill wants? The problem is, if you live in Hollywood, as Bill does, and attend lavish parties all the time, surround yourself with only liberals, party at the Playboy Mansion with Hugh Hefner and his bunnies, then you are living in a super-insulated bubble, cut off from most human reality. I call him The Bubble Boy. If he ever left his bubble, and entered reality, I don't know if a single bacteria would kill him, he's been so isolated for so long.

That's why Bill Mahr has turned into such a pompous, know-it-all ass. He thinks he knows better than anyone, without realizing how completely clueless he is. And the problem is, Bill is a talented and very funny guy, and he has a certain hipness about him, which influences a lot of people, in a bad way. It's like fashion. A lot of people don't like to think about much. They buy into things because they are fashionable, and other people are doing it. It helps if people they like, who are considered hip are doing it. That's how a lot, if not most, people think. Most people are followers, and can easily be led astray by social leaders, like Bill.

Bill's style of comedy revolves around current events, like Iraq. Because he's funny and verbally fluent and thinks more about a lot of issues than the average person, when he spouts off, a lot of naive young liberals buy into his b.s. and assume this guy knows what he's talking about. And when millions of people watch you on Larry King, and watch your act, it gives Bill some respectibility, as a serious debater of issues, that he really doesn't deserve. Bill is a lightweight thinker, with a large megaphone.

He's the Brittainy Spears of thinkers.

And my hope, for America, is that the grown ups will remain in charge. The Democrats haven't quite grown up yet, which is why they shouldn't be the ones in charge. Right through the time I was watching Obama with Pastor Rick Warren on CNN the other night, I couldn't help but picturing in my mind, Obama as Peter Pan. The boy who never grew up. Living in Hawaii must have been sweet, growing up. I know, I've been there, lots. It's a real paradise. And while Bubble Boy Bill spouts off on Larry King, and Russian tanks invade Georgia, and real people are dying and the future of countries and empires decided, I saw on the news that Peter Obama Pan is off surfing somewhere.

America is considering electing a surfer-dude who used to be a "community organizer", whatever that means, as President. Lord, help us all.

-- August 20, 2008 11:34 AM


Sara wrote:

McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama
Poll: Republican seen as a stronger manager of the economy
Wed., Aug. 20, 2008

WASHINGTON - In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.

The reversal follows a month of attacks by McCain, who has questioned Obama's experience and criticized his opposition to most new offshore oil drilling.

McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy -- an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election.

That margin reversed Obama's 4-point edge last month on the economy over McCain.

McCain has been on the offensive against Obama during the last month over energy concerns, with polls showing strong majorities supporting his call for an expansion of offshore oil drilling as gasoline prices hover near $4 a gallon.

Obama had opposed new offshore drilling, but said recently he would support a limited expansion as part of a comprehensive energy program.

That was one of several recent policy shifts for Obama, as he positions himself for the general election battle. But Zogby said the changes could be taking a toll on Obama's support, particularly among Democrats and self-described liberals.

Obama's support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.

"Conservatives were supposed to be the bigger problem for McCain," Zogby said. "Obama still has work to do on his base. At this point McCain seems to be doing a better job with his."

The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.

"There were no wild swings, there isn't one group that is radically different than last month or even two months ago. It was just a steady decline for Obama across the board," Zogby said.

Obama's support among voters between the ages of 18 and 29, which had been one of his strengths, slipped 12 percentage points to 52 percent. McCain, who will turn 72 next week, was winning 40 percent of younger voters.

"Those are not the numbers Obama needs to win," Zogby said.

It made little difference when independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, who are both trying to add their names to state ballots.

McCain still held a 5-point edge over Obama, 44 percent to 39 percent, when all four names were included. Barr earned 3 percent and Nader 2 percent.

The telephone poll of 1,089 likely voters had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The poll was taken as both candidates head into their nominating conventions and the announcements of their choices of vice presidential picks. The Democratic convention begins on Monday in Denver, with the Republican convention opening the next Monday, September 1, in St. Paul, Minnesota.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26308429/

It was just a steady decline for Obama across the board," Zogby said.

So maybe this establishes that we are not all racists "across the board"??
And maybe people don't like being told they are, when they know they are not,
and are voting with what they feel is the best candidate and credentials for the job.
Interesting that 90% of the black vote remains behind Obama.. yet no one questions that as "racist."
Why is that, do you think?

Sara.

-- August 20, 2008 1:07 PM


Sara wrote:

This is a summary (3 paragraphs) of my past posts on physics and the cosmos age question for those interested on the board - so you can gnaw on them and maybe give me an answer as to your thoughts on it. (And hopefully it is short enough that Roger can read it with his limited time he has online from Iraq and contribute, too. :) )

As you know, calculating the age of our cosmos is based on the CURRENT rate of expansion which we are able to measure - and, utilizing that, we extrapolate backward to estimate the age of our universe. But that this calcuation is wrong is obvious because science knows that the "big bang" happened "everywhere all at once" and that during the "expansion phase" of the universe the speed of light was exceeded, which drastically affects that calculation. Using TODAY'S expansion rate as a steady state and extrapolating the amount of time it would take based on that - when we KNOW there was an expansion phase which was faster than the speed of light (how much faster??) and the "explosion" happened everywhere all at once (how does that work?) means that the calculation is off. Understanding that reaction and how it works and being able to recreate it as proof on a small scale, would validate the fact that the Universe could have happened a lot faster than is thought, and so is a lot younger than the CURRENT rate of expansion would make it appear. This means that it can be not only scientifically plausible but provable that the cosmos is younger than it now appears by using this data rather than the current steady state data calculation.

Knowing what that "everywhere all at once" reaction actually IS, and being able to recreate on a small scale the "expansion phase" utilizing that knowledge.. (the match) will have far reaching effects on our abilities concerning the frontiers of space and science - including our ability to travel huge distances (to the stars) in relatively short periods of time (within our lifetimes) to study them. This should be able to happen, at least remotely, as I am not sure the human body can take an "expansion phase" reaction/propulsion, but it is very likely that a spacecraft could be designed which would be able to take such forces and we do have robots which could be programmed to run a series of tests and video and return with that data to earth (ie the Mars Rover).

Certainly, being able to scientifically measure an "expansion reaction" accurately would enable us to get a scientific calculation we could use to plug into an equation and make the time calculation of the initial expansion phase more accurate, based on what would then be observable data. We could send a robot-piloted spacecraft into space for 5-10 seconds using the expansion reaction, then have the robot triangulate its position and return, giving us positive observable data about how fast the universe was likely to have expanded during the expansion phase. This calculation would allow us to calculate more accurately how fast the universe could have moved during the expansion, which will allow for a much younger calculation of the age of the universe - one which is true and scientific, based on proven data. This would then enable us to have a scientific basis to allow for the younger ages postulated by Intelligent Design or Creation theorists as the explanation for all we now see, based only on this visible, observable, repeatable scientific experiment and calculation. At least 80% of the earth's inhabitants would be pleased with that result finally scientifically validating their theistic belief systems with their inherent shorter timelines due to the direct causality of an Intelligent Designer. It would also allow us to explore the stars using this same reaction which once powered the expansion phase of the universe.

Sara.

PS Understanding this reaction I am speaking of which created the big bang's "everywhere-all-at-once expansion phase which exceeds the current speed of light" I believe to be understanding the next or fifth dimension.

-- August 20, 2008 2:51 PM


Sara wrote:

It looks like it may work soon..

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U.S., Iraq Reach Tentative Deal to Withdraw American Troops
Wednesday, August 20, 2008

BAGHDAD — Iraqi and U.S. negotiators have completed a draft security agreement...

In Washington, a senior military official said the deal is acceptable to the U.S. side, subject to formal approval by President George W. Bush. It also requires final acceptance by Iraqi leaders, and some members of Iraq's Cabinet oppose some provisions.

Also completed is a companion draft document, known as a strategic framework agreement, spelling out in broad terms the political, security and economic relationships between Iraq and the United States, the senior military official said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407424,00.html

-- August 20, 2008 11:35 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq Invites LUKoil to Bid for West Qurna
21 August 2008
An Iraqi Cabinet minister invited Russia's LUKoil on Wednesday to renew its bid on the lucrative West Qurna-2 oil field and urged Russian companies to seek roles rebuilding dilapidated power plants as Iraq searches for foreign investment to revive its oil industry and infrastructure.

"I hope Russia companies will take part in the bidding," Iraqi Electricity Minister Karim Wahid told a news conference in Moscow. "LUKoil is welcome to bid for the service contract at the second or third stage of the tender in March or September."

LUKoil signed a contract for West Qurna-2, one of the largest oil fields in the world, in 1997. Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein declared the deal void shortly before the 2003 U.S. invasion. West Qurna-2 is believed to hold 6 billion barrels in proven reserves.

LUKoil's officials have repeatedly said they continue to consider the contract valid, as it was not revoked within the international legal framework. But in a recent interview with the an-Noor newspaper, Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani referred to the contract as no longer valid.

Wahid and Energy Minister Sergei Shmatko had earlier agreed to set up two working groups to develop power industry cooperation. Wahid also called on Russian companies to bid in tenders to revive the country's power plants and build new ones.

He said Iraq was eager to renew deals signed in the 1990s and early 2000s. "We are currently reviewing their technical and economic terms, but not their political component," he said.

The Iraqis are anxious to find foreign investors to help modernize their vast oil industry, which suffered from years of neglect under Saddam's rule and during the 13 years of UN sanctions following the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

Iraq is also anxious to reach out to partners in Russia, China and other countries to avoid relying too heavily on American and British companies. That could feed criticism that the 2003 invasion was aimed at seizing control of Iraq's oil.
(www.moscowtimes.ru)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 21, 2008 9:40 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq: Talks with oil giants continue

A senior Iraqi oil official disputed reports that talks had broken down between Iraq and major international oil companies over deals to boost output, saying Wednesday that negotiations were ongoing.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 21, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

This is a non-dinar post. This shows how the left in this country seeks to destory any public reference to Judeo-Christian spirituality in this country.
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Petraeus Book 'Endorsement' Draws Fire
August 20, 2008
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

Gen. David Petraeus is used to controversy surrounding the war in Iraq, but his publicized thoughts on an Army chaplain's book for Soldiers put him squarely in the middle of the ongoing conflict over religious proselytizing in the U.S. military.

The book is "Under Orders: A Spiritual Handbook for Military Personnel," by Army Chaplain (Lt. Col.) William McCoy, and according to Petraeus' published endorsement of the work, "it should be in every rucksack for those times when soldiers need spiritual energy."

But the endorsement - which has spurred a demand by a watchdog group for Petraeus' dismissal and court martial on the grounds of establishing a religious requirement on troops - was a personal view never intended for publication, the book's author now says.

"In the process of securing … comments for recommending the book I believe there was a basic misunderstanding on my part that the comments were publishable," McCoy said in an Aug. 19 email to Military.com. "This was my mistake."

In addition to Petraeus, Maj. Gen. Mark Hertling also is quoted plugging the book in press releases and advertisements and on the jacket.

McCoy, writing in response to Military.com's Aug. 18 inquiry to Petraeus' office for comment, said the two generals' endorsements "were intended for me personally rather than for the general public."

In response to follow-up questions from Military.com, McCoy said he has asked that all distribution of the book be halted until a new "graphic overlay" for the back cover is produced "so there is no further public misunderstanding."


McCoy did not respond to questions on the timing of the endorsements, and why it took so long before the officials learned their endorsement has been used in print. Petraeus' endorsement has been on the book since its 2007 publication, while Hertling's plug first appeared on the 2005 edition. Both also are quoted in newspaper ads for the book and on the book's Amazon.com Web page.

Patraeus spokesman Col. Steven Boylan said the general has been Iraq since the beginning of February 2007, "and unless someone [like Military.com] notes it, we would not be aware of it," he said in an Aug. 19 email. "We don't get the stateside papers in Baghdad and I doubt very much that Gen. Petraeus goes to Amazon.com much, if at all."


Mikey Weinstein, head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, believes McCoy is taking the fall for Petraeus and Hertling's improper endorsements. Weinstein said it "strains credulity" that Petraeus never knew that his private written endorsement of the book was in the public domain since last year.


Weinstein is a former Air Force judge advocate general and White House counsel during the Reagan administration. His group has been fighting in the courts to keep improper proselytizing out of the military. Now, he said, he intends to incorprate the Petraeus and Hertling endorsements into an ongoing lawsuit against the Pentagon for an alleged pervasive and permicious "pattern and practice" of religious liberties violations in the military.

"MRFF is now officially putting both Army chaplain Lt. Col. Bill McCoy and General Petraeus on notice not to destroy any of the written or electronic records of their communications about this [issue]," Weinstein said.


The chapters in McCoy's book are offered up as "Orders," he said, and one of them is titled "Believe in God."

With his plug for "Under Orders," Weinstein said in a statement to Military.com, Petraeus - one of the most widely recognized officers in the American military - is endorsing religion as something all Soldiers should have and, specifically, the Christian religion.

"General Petraeus has, by his own hand, become a quintessential poster child of this fundamentalist Christian religious predation, via his unadulterated and shocking public endorsement of a book touting both Christian supremacy and exceptionalism," Weinstein told Military.com Aug. 16.

And by endorsing a book that argues only those who believe in God can fully contribute to the military mission or unit, Weinstein contends that Petraeus insults ""the integrity, character and veracity of approximately 21 percent of our armed forces members who choose not to follow any particular religious faith."

He said that even if Petraeus offered his comments personally, that's a distinction without a difference. "Privately he's denigrating 21 percent of troops," Weinstein said. Suppose he privately denigrated women, African-Americans or Jews? Weinstein asked.

"He should still be relieved of duty and court martialed," he said.

Rev. Billy Baugham, a retired Army chaplain and executive director of the International Conference of Evangelical Christian Endorsers, backs Petraeus' right to plug the book. Past generals, among them George C. Marshall and George Patton, made the case for religion in the ranks.

Marshall claimed that the Soldier's spiritual life was critical to his morale, even more than equipment, while Patton, said Baugham, had a chaplain pray for good weather for an coming battle and then submitted him for an Army Commendation Medal afterwards, when the weather turned out clear.

"So the ICECE would support what General Patreaus has done," Baugham said.

Chris Rodda, a freelance writer and researcher for the MRFF, noted in an Aug. 16 column on the Daily Kos Web site that she found much in "Under Orders" that was "pretty good." It offered sound advice and promoted a brand of Christianity that it would be good to see more often both in the military and civilian worlds, she said, and even warned against the practices used by some "para-church groups" within the military that Weinstein's group considers dangerous and unconstitutional.

But in the end, she claims, the book paints those who don't believe in God as "somehow deficient," in that they may - in McCoy's words - view their own "agenda [to be] more important than [the] unit's agenda and thus lead to unit failure."

Author McCoy, writing Aug. 11 in his blog on Amazon.com, acknowledges that the book does promote Christianity.

"No one [else] has written a book which allows for varying world views and perspectives while suggesting the Gospel might have an idea worth considering. Under Orders does just that," he wrote.

McCoy is endorsed by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, according to a recent press release for his book. Now the chaplain for U.S. Army Garrison Kaiserslautern, Germany, McCoy previously served as chaplain for the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth and, before then, the 10th Mountain Division, according to the release.
(www.military.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 21, 2008 9:49 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Is everyone alright? It seems that rebase article has shaken everyone's outlook on this investment. Nothing official has been announced from the Central Bank of Iraq's governor.

I keeping asking myself why a representitive from the CBI would make such a statement almost echoing word for word the statement by finance minister Jabor. I also keep asking myself why a country with an inflation rate at 12% would need to rebase its currency by lopping three zeros off of the physical currency. Unless I am so bias my perspective is skewed none of this makes sense to me.

If the CBI governor makes an official announcement that the lopping of the three zeros off of the currency is the policy being persued, I think Mr. I and Al-Warka better get ready to see a lot of Dinar coming back into the country with the establishment of new Warka bank accounts.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 21, 2008 10:05 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Facilitate the movement of capital abroad

عبد الحسين الياسري: الآن فيما يتعلق بموضوع انتقال رؤوس الأموال فكما تعلم أن العراق انتقل من النظام الشمولي من النظام اللي يمنع التحويل وألغيت حتى المديرية العامة لرقابة التحويل للخارج، ويستطيع أي مواطن أن يحول أمواله إلى أي منطقة بالعالم وإلى أي بلد، والآن أكو تحويلات تتم عن طريق مصرفي الرافدين والرشيد والبنك المركزي بملايين الدولارات والعملات الأجنبية. Abdul-Hussein Yasiri: Now on the subject of capital movements as we know that Iraq has moved from the totalitarian system of rules that prevent the conversion and even cancelled the Directorate General of the conversion of outside control, and any citizen can divert funds to any region of the world and to any country, and now there are transfers Through the Rafidain Bank and Rasheed Bank and the Central millions of dollars and foreign currencies. فلم تكن هنالك أي مشكلة في الوقت الحاضر. There was not any problem at the moment. إحنا عندنا نظام آخر سوف يطل قريباً إن شاء الله اسمه النظام الشامل. We have another system, we will emerge soon, God called Global System. هذا النظام الشامل سوف تنتهي المرحلة الأولى في يوم 15/9 ويربط العراق بالعالم أجمع. This comprehensive system will expire in the first phase on 15 / 9 linking Iraq and the whole world. إننا مقبلون على عمل يرفع من وضع الاقتصاد العراقي ويرفع من وضع المصارف العراقية ويجعلها الآن العمل في المصارف العراقية يكاد يكون بمستوى عمل المصارف الأجنبية. We are heading to the work of bringing the Iraqi economy and a lift from Iraqi banks and put them now work in Iraqi banks is almost the level of work foreign banks.

http://translate.google.com/translat...D%26as_qdr%3Dd
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-- August 21, 2008 11:04 AM


cornishboy wrote:

old news but good news 03/04/2008 | IRAQ
Iraqi Finance Minister Bayan Jabor in his interview with Dow Jones Newswires stated that the Central Bank of Iraq came to a decision to rebase the Iraqi dinar and issue new banknotes in 2008.
Before the US troops invaded Iraq in 2003 the dinar traded at 2500 against dollar. In comparison, in the 1980 state banks traded the dinar at 3 dollars. Currently the dinar is trading at 1230 against dollar (see “Iran and Iraq: Who Will Be the First to Remove Three Zeroes from National Currency Banknotes?” BoW #1, 2008). The Central Bank of Iraq is consistently working on improving the situation of dinar. In particular, the bank is holding daily auctions selling US dollars to private and state banks. The Central Bank officials say that the bank sells from $35 to $50 million US dollars in each auction.
After the fall of Saddam’s regime the temporary Iraqi government decided to issue new banknotes. The Iraqi citizens were given three months to exchange the old notes for the new ones. According to the Central Bank officials, almost 10.000 tons of the old notes were collected and burned during the exchange.
The banknotes currently in circulation were printed by Britain’s “De La Rue”, the world’s largest printer of bank-notes.

-- August 21, 2008 12:11 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Al-Maliki to Rice: Iraq witnessing an economic revival and upswing

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Said Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, on Thursday, that Iraq is witnessing "renaissance" The economic upswing in a clear reflection of what he described as successes and political security in the country.
و. The Cabinet statement, received the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq) a copy of it, that came during his meeting with American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, adding that "officials who have visited Iraq recently crossed us expressed satisfaction with the security and political developments and the resolve of the government move toward construction, reconstruction and expanding horizons Cooperation with Arab and international environment. "
كبر". He added: "We (in the Iraqi government) meet the openness Arab, regional and international levels in Iraq more comfortable."
وس". The statement quoted the American Secretary of State she called "happy with the progress evident in the security aspects, political, economic, which reveals the considerable efforts made by the Iraqi government and its success in achieving security, stability and reconstruction projects to move the country." http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.sotaliraq.com/iraqnews.php%3Fid%3D24742

-- August 21, 2008 12:37 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Iraq witnesses economic, constructional development, says al-Maliki
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Here's the VOI version. -Dash

BAGHDAD, Aug. 21 (VOI) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said on Thursday that Iraq is witnessing an economic and constructional development as a reflex of what he described as security and political successes in the country.

"This came during his meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice," the cabinet said in a statement received by Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI).
"Officials who visited Iraq recently expressed their comfort about the security and political developments and the government's intention to concentrate in reconstructing the country," he added.
The statement quoted Rice as expressing happiness with the significant progress in Iraq, which is evident of the efforts exerted by the Iraqi government and its success in realizing security and stability.
"She reiterated her country's support of the Iraqi government and its hope to develop the bilateral ties in various domains," the statement added.
"The two also discussed the points of agreement and disagreement on the Iraqi-U.S. security pact," it noted.
The agreement governs the presence of U.S. forces in the country after 2008 and will not come into force without the approval of the Iraqi Parliament, which has 275 members from five blocs, in addition to the Sadrist movement and al-Fadhila party. U.S. troops' presence currently relies on a mandate by the United Nations and is annually renewed at the request of the Iraqi government.
A declaration of principles was signed between U.S. President George W. Bush and the Iraqi premier in December 2007. The declaration was scheduled to be ratified on July 31, 2008 and to come into force as of January 1, 2009.
Negotiations over the security agreement have turned into an increasingly acrimonious public debate, with some Iraqi lawmakers denouncing what they say are U.S. demands to maintain permanent bases in their country.
Rice arrived in Baghdad on Thursday on a visit which was announced earlier.
The state-run al-Iraqia satellite television made breaking news on the arrival of Rice.
Rice's last visit to Iraq was on April 20 2008.
The visit came after the one-day visit made by Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad al-Siniora, who met with al-Maliki and Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi and senior Iraqi officials.
Iraq witnesses economic, constructional development, says al-Maliki

http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=90234&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1

-- August 21, 2008 12:40 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

The Russians are on the move. See article.


Big Russian flotilla led by Admiral Kuznetsov carrier heads for Syrian port
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 21, 2008, 9:17 AM (GMT+02:00)


Russia's Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier heads for Mediterranean
As the West awaits Moscow’s threatened reprisal for the treaty installing American missile interceptors at Redzikowo, on Poland’s Baltic coast – signed in Warsaw Wednesday - the Kremlin is striking back in the Middle East – hence Russian president Dimitry Medvedev’s honeyed words of reassurance to Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert in a call he made to Jerusalem Wednesday, Aug. 20.

DEBKAfile’s military sources disclose that a powerful Russian naval contingent, led by the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov , left Murmansk on the Barents Sea Aug. 18 to dock at the Syrian Mediterranean port of Tartus Saturday, Aug. 23. It includes the Russian Navy’s biggest missile cruiser Moskva and at least four nuclear missile submarines.

At the Black Sea resort of Sochi, Syrian president Bashar Assad told reporters Thursday, Aug. 21, that he is considering a Russian request to deploy missiles in his country in view of Russian-Western tensions over the Georgian conflict, which he said had polarized East and West anew.

Assad signaled he would also be representing Tehran’s interests in his talks with Russian leaders. Jordan’s King Abdullah is on his way to join them later in the day.

Before the Russian flotilla departed Murmansk, Assad is reported by our sources as having given the nod for Tartus port’s conversion into a permanent Middle East base for Russia’s nuclear-armed warships.

Assad’s arrival coincided with a visit by a large Syrian military delegation Thursday at the Russian weapons manufacturing giant, the Kalinin Machines Plant, east of Moscow. DEBKAfile’s military sources report that this plant makes sophisticated anti-air missile systems, including the S-300 and the BUK M, for which Damascus is bidding.

The Syrian ruler has said he is seeking closer military cooperation with Russia. The deal emerging from his visit is expected to cover the Russian Navy’s use of Tartus in return for a mutual defense accord providing Syria with a Russian nuclear umbrella and generous terms for his arms purchases.

Aug. 17, DEBKAfile first revealed Russia’s planned nuclear military deployments in the Middle East and Baltic to punish America for its missile deal with Poland and Georgia's attack in South Ossetia. They would included the installation of Iskandar surface missiles in Syria and Kaliningrad.

-- August 21, 2008 2:28 PM


Sara wrote:

You probably have seen the youtube videos of Obama floundering his way through unscripted moments when the teleprompter didn't work. Now, below, this is according to Obama's political consultants.. I found it interesting and thought you may, too. This is from the more charitable about his reliance on the teleprompter (there are some a lot less charitable about what being reliant on the teleprompter may mean for a candidate for President):

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Obama Being Weaned From Teleprompter
From the great “Prowler” at The American Spectator:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13742

Teleprompting Obama
By The Prowler
Published 8/21/2008

According to several Democrat political consultants presumptive Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama spent part of his Hawaiian vacation working on weaning himself from a heavy dependence on teleprompters. Even in what are staged as “town hall” events for Obama, remarks are scripted or formatted into bullet points that scroll on teleprompter screens. Obama has had several embarrassing events where the teleprompter either malfunctioned or the screens were not fully visible.

“He just locks down and can’t get the words out,” says one political consultant. “For such a fine speaker, it’s really quite remarkable that he’s had issues.”

Obama’s troubles with unscripted moments contributed to his campaign’s refusal to participate in town hall format debates or discussions with Sen. John McCain, who feels much more comfortable in the unscripted moments…

===end quote==

This explains a lot.

Though, if the Anointed One is so brilliant at debates, why is he only allowing three of them? During the Democrat primaries they had three a week.

It’s almost as if Mr. Obama is afraid of anyone finding out what he really thinks.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Thursday, August 21st, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-being-weaned-from-teleprompter

-- August 21, 2008 2:31 PM


Pablo wrote:

Hey guys, I've been keeping up with this site since I was over in the sand box back in 2003. Maybe I am misunderstanding this rebasing thing. It sounds like from earlier entries that the Iraqi banks are going to lop off some zero's off of the bank notes. I googled "rebasing currency" and found where Iraq was talking about doing this back in November of 2007 and it goes on to explain that the currency would go from 1,230 per US dollar to 1.23 per US dollar. Isn't this what we want? I've pasted just a brief clip of the article below. The link is here: http://www.fxstreet.com/news/forex-news/article.aspx?StoryId=fce85a1a-81d2-4920-a13d-0d6ab052864c

"AMMAN (Dow Jones)-The Central Bank of Iraq is contemplating rebasing the Iraqi dinar and issuing new banknotes early next year, the country's Finance Minister said Thursday.

"The Central Bank will take a decision in three months time from now, taking off three zeros from the current Iraqi dinar value," Bayan Jabor said in an exclusive interview with Dow Jones Newswires in Amman.

On Thursday, the dinar traded 1,230 dinars against the dollar, according to a trader in Baghdad. If the rebase decision is taken, it means that a dollar will equal only 1.23 dinars at current prices, the minister said.

Currency rebasings usually are monetarily neutral and are introduced to make commercial calculations easier. Turkey knocked six zeroes off its lira currency on Jan 1 2005, for example."

-- August 21, 2008 2:33 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

More on Georgia and Russia's plans. I was unable to get the more on the article to come up. Maybe someone can get it to come up on Dekafiles.com

Moscow plans 18 long-term checkpoints inside Georgia
August 20, 2008, 11:24 PM (GMT+02:00)
Deputy chief of the Russian army general staff Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn told reporters Aug. 20: “The president ordered us to stop where we were. We are not pulling out or pulling back troops behind this administrative border into South Ossetia,” he said.
He pointed out the proposed Russian positions on a map, one just outside the Georgian city of Gori. Moscow planned to establish 18 long-term checkpoints including at least eight in undisputed Georgian territory.
More...

-- August 21, 2008 2:40 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, the article came up with the additional comments. Here it is.


Moscow plans 18 long-term checkpoints inside Georgia

August 20, 2008, 11:24 PM (GMT+02:00)

Deputy chief of the Russian army general staff Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn told reporters Aug. 20: “The president ordered us to stop where we were. We are not pulling out or pulling back troops behind this administrative border into South Ossetia,” he said.

He pointed out the proposed Russian positions on a map, one just outside the Georgian city of Gori. Moscow planned to establish 18 long-term checkpoints including at least eight in undisputed Georgian territory outside the pro-Russian enclave of South Ossetia, said the general. They will be staffed by hundreds of Russian troops.

The plan appears to flout the terms of the French-brokered ceasefire deal signed last week by the presidents of Russia and Georgia. Moscow says its peacekeeping mandate and the ceasefire terms give it access to a “security zone” along the Georgian-South Ossetian border.

Nogovitsyn said at least 64 Russian soldiers were killed and 323 injured in the fighting sparked by an “unprovoked surprise attack” by Georgia on the South Ossetian capital.

-- August 21, 2008 2:48 PM


Laura Parke wrote:

All,

Another article. This article apparently is a partial one as this site wants anyone to subscribe and pay to receive the rest of the article. However, it apparently is saying that the Russians and Americans are each on alert.

The US and Russia revive Cold War tactics at sea
DEBKA-Net-Weekly Exclusive
August 21, 2008, 9:21 PM (GMT+02:00)
The new DEBKA-Net-Weekly homes in on the post-Georgia contests building up on the Black Sea and the eastern Mediterranean – the first controlled by the Russian Navy, the second dominated by the US Sixth Fleet.
These loaded maneuvers are examined in detail in the coming issue out Friday.
To subscribe to DEBKA-Net-Weekly click HERE .


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-- August 21, 2008 3:04 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Pablo,

Thanks for your post. However, I can't see that this is what we want. From what I have read, it is the notes that could be rebased. That means that a 25,000 NID note will be exchanged for a 25 NID one. No change, since the monetary position remains unchanged. The value would not have increased, so we are none the richer. From what you wrote, US$1 would equal 1.23 NIDs. Yes, it's higher than the Saudi Riyal (US$1 = 3.75 Saudi Riyal), and not too far behind the Jordan Dinar (US$1 = 0.75 Jordanian dinar).

BritishKnite.

-- August 21, 2008 3:33 PM


Sara wrote:

timbitts and Board;
I found your post on Maher very good, and thought you would find his comments that Americans are all a bunch of dummies interesting. How people can listen to someone who deprecates them if their opinion differs from his own, I don't know. But I suppose that is the Liberal Media's talking points.. try and shame people into believing what the media wants them to by calling them names and deprecating their opinions as "dumb". Yep, not only are folks racists if they don't vote for Obama, but if they don't toe the leftist/Obama party line and thinking, then even the majority of Americans are all a bunch of dummies.. how endearing.

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CNN’s King Plays Along With Maher’s Americans ‘Are Too Dumb’ Scenario
By Kerry Picket
August 20, 2008

During an interview with Larry King, Bill Maher went on a diatribe about the stupidity of the American people, because he is dumbfounded by 2/3 of Americans who believe that offshore drilling will bring gas prices down. King, not realizing he was about to insult the average caller who phones into his show each evening along with the millions who watch him in his own audience, simply asked Maher if he agreed with essayist H.L. Menken who said, “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.”

Comments:

1) Two peas in a pod by bigtimer

Two peas in a pod here...dumb...and dumber.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

2) Why do liberals persist in by Chris Norman

Why do liberals persist in denying common sense and the laws of economics and calling it "intelligence"? I guess they have to make every answer complicated so only government bureaucrats can pretend to understand what they're doing.

McNotObama '08

3) because they live Thru The Looking Glass by UndercoverConservative

Because they live Thru The Looking Glass by making decisions based on flash, emotions, or knee jerk reaction is called "intelligence" to liberals. Look at their idols-movie stars, fancy advertised products..they think of themselves as "intelligent" and "worldly" because they automatically reject any thought, methodology or ideology that's customary. If it's an old way of doing things, get rid of it. Think about the children! ban anything scary...

Which means the opposite for them is true. Planning, research, truth, consideration before reacting, using your brain, logic...these things therefore must be the opposite of "intelligence".

So yeah, not being a knee jerk reacting, madison avenue controlled, tree worshipping, america hating, drug using, no brain thinking twit means you're "stupid". And common sense is a "bad" thing. Also, having any long term memory or a set of consistent morals, also not a "good liberal" trait.

Look to the social experiments of subsidizing poverty, and promoting slave-class illegal immigration, and giving criminals more rights than law abiding folks-decades these attitudes were tried in good faith, but they've been proven failed, but that doesn't keep the same stupid attitudes from growing and becoming even deeper seated policy at all levels of government.

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"

4) Does Maher still support John Edwards? by Captain Kirock

Wow, I wish we all could be as smart as Bill Maher thinks he is. I'm surpised Maher even lets us vote. He and his sleazy Hollywood cronies should just rule the country as an oligarachy.

Just think, if all Democrats were only as smart as Maher, John Edwards would be the Democratic candidate now. What a keen, intellectual insight Maher has. Perfect for leading us all to ruin.

5) Maher by AndyR

Funny thing here is at one time Bill Maher was a Republican. It was only when a Liberal TV station tossed his show off the air that he probably internalized that he will never work in this town again unless he changes his ideological affiliations.

In other words, the dumb putz drank the koolaid.

6) Ironic by Anastas

I find it Ironic because Almost everyone in the world has profited because of the American People. The Germans, the Soviet Union and many other Communist countries have also gone broke underestimating the American People. But I guess he spoke too soon because his quote was before the World Wars. He should have knocked on wood as he said it.

7) I beg to differ by the struggler

It seems America was smart enough not to vote for John Kerry.And I believe they'll be smart enough to throw Obama out on his ear.

Don't misunderestimate us.

8) Clear thinker by Rush Fan

Rush Limbaugh provided one reason for Obama’s popularity on his show today: “The Democrats live in a world of fakery, fraudulent phoniness. We live in a world of reality. For example, liberals will fall, did fall hook, line, and sinker for the John Edwards story. Those of us on the other side in politics saw a fraud from the get-go. At the same time, the Drive-Bys and the libs and the Democrats have fallen for the Obama story. And then a genuine story of war heroism in a prisoner of war camp in Vietnam is said by the libs to be a fake one. They support fakes, they nominate fakes, they promote and market fakes, and they look at real stories and condemn them as fakes.”

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"How difficult must it be for her to find somebody less qualified than Obama?" ~ Rush Limbaugh on Caroline Kennedy vetting Obama's veep choices

9) LMAO I usually use the by dmntd1

LMAO I usually use the analogy of taking the Kitchen manager from Red Lobster and making him the VP in charge of operations. Sure, he's got a little experience, at a low level, but he's got nowhere NEAR enough experience at the higher level.

It used to be, in private business anyway, that people were promoted to their first level of incompetence. In government these days, they hit that first level of incompetence, and we try to promote them out of it.

"He's been programmed to believe what he believes, and he's going to be loyal to those who have put him where he is." ~ Rush Limbaugh on Barack Obama

10) the americans the MSM talk to aren't that smart by UndercoverConservative

The MSM loves the image of the Stupid American. They interview only the dumbest, most short sighted people they can find. They make shows to elevate the mediocre.

But don't make the misake that the "stupid Americans" that you see promoted by the MSM is any more accurate or true representation of the whole of America, than any other presentation of any other issue. Global Warming, leftist politics, losing the war in Iraq...all of these BS spin issues are known by NB members to be a crock of shite at the very least. You can count on it that the Stupid American myth is just the same. This is all part of the attempt to legitimize the revocation of Democracy and personal choice/responsibility. Media tells us we're all to stupid to handle our retirement, our money, our health, our environment. And conveniently, the Liberals are right there offering to "help" while treating themselves as elite and talking to us with condescending tones. A Coincidence? "Don't You Believe It!"

The problem is, the minority of stupid people are in charge. In charge of Politics, the Media, and Entertainment. Even Business.They can't handle the idea that there are people much smarter than themselves, so they do everything they can to make their "subjects" appear even more clueless than themselves-helps their egos as well as their agendas. Because even smart people can fall victim to a consistent, overwhelming and long term propaganda assault.

We're not quite to "Idiocracy" yet. Until you get to the State and Federal capitals, anyways.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kerry-picket/2008/08/20/cnn-s-king-plays-along-maher-s-americans-are-too-dumb-scenario

-- August 21, 2008 4:19 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Russia's missiles in Syria. This article comes from Russia News.

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AFP Photo / Vladimir RodionovAugust 21, 2008, 22:28
We’ll host Russian missile system - Syria
Syria says it’s ready to put a Russian missile system on its soil as a counterweight to U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic. The offer was made during a meeting between Syrian leader Bashar Asad and President Dmitry Medvedev in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.
Meanwhile, Moscow is considering a request from Syria for more Russian-made weapons.

It was the first meeting between the two leaders, and President Al-Asad was keen to show Syria’s support for Russia.

"We understand what is behind Russia's position ... We believe this is a response to Georgian provocation. We support Moscow in this and are against any attempts to blacken Russia," Al-Assad said.

Many expected a tit-for-tat response after the US sealed a deal to deploy interceptors in Poland as a part of their missile defence system.

Ahead of the visit, there were reports that Russia might deploy a missile system in Syria - in particular, the Iskander system. It’s something Syria has been requesting for a long time. After Friday’s meeting, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Russia is ready “to consider the offers of the Syrian government in connection of the delivery of new weapons, only for defence purposes”.

Moscow has temporarily suspended cooperation with NATO. It follows NATO’s criticism of Russia’s actions in South Ossetia and threats to shut down the NATO-Russia Council. Lavrov was clear on Russia’s course: “We are not going to slam the door on NATO. NATO could slam this door, though. Everything depends on NATO's priorities: if the priorities are absolutely supportive of Saakashvili's bankrupt regime to the detriment of partnership with Russia, then it is not our fault,” he said.

Meanwhile, the withdrawal of Russian troops from the conflict zone is well under way. There will be at least 500 peacekeepers deployed in the so-called security zone near the border. The rest of the peacekeepers will remain within the de facto borders of South Ossetia. The rest of the troops in the area will return to Russia.

Russia says it’s fully committed to the six principles of the cease-fire, but, according to Lavrov, some countries are resorting to diplomatic tricks.

Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Georgia’s two separatist regions, have again asked Moscow to recognise their independence.

-- August 21, 2008 4:20 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,
the reasona I put up with bill mahr is he is funny, and I actually like the guy, despite philosophical differences, and I find it is useful to try to figure out how other people, who disagree with me, think. For instance, your observation that Bill demeans his audience and calls conservatives idiots is true, and useful. It's useful becaue once conservatives figure out they are being demeaned and humiliated, they can fight back. Frankly I think the reason Bill Mahr gets away with his nonsense is that not enough conservatives listen to him, analyze liberal nonsense, and fight back. A lot of conservatives are oblivious to the insults of liberals, and ignore them. People like you don't, which is good.

American politics, in my opinion, is incredibly divisive and slandersous and usually takes the low road. If people are ever to elevate political discourse, it means starting with some ground rules, as far as civility is concerned. Once conservatives start calling a spade a spade, and object to being insulted by liberals, they can follow that up by demanding that they be talked to in a respectful, and not a demeaning way.

This process of calling liberal lies and abuse for what it is, is a great psychological boost to conservatives, for it puts them in a superior ethical position, of identifying liberals as the demeaners they are, and gives conservatives a reason to fight back.

Because, I think the truth is, liberals like Bill Mahr are so self-righteous and arrogant, that I don't think they even realize a)that they are insulting their audience and b)that their audience is smart enough to know they are being insulted.

As Obama found out when he insulted small town people, these people understand when they are being talked down to.

So, in short, in the art of war, it is useful to understand your enemy.

-- August 21, 2008 5:01 PM


Sara wrote:

US, Iraq reach deal to pull US troops out by June
By MATTHEW LEE and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA,
Aug 21, 2008 21 minutes ago

BAGHDAD - Iraq and the U.S. have reached preliminary agreement to withdraw American forces from Iraqi cities by next June Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Thursday after meeting with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

The draft agreement with Iraq would link troop reductions to achievement of certain security milestones, although the details have not been made public.

Time has become ever more important in discussions between U.S. and Iraqi officials with Bush heading into its final months and the presidential candidates tussling daily over how and when they would move to end the war.

Democrat Barack Obama has said he would begin pulling troops out immediately upon taking office and have all combat forces out within 16 months. Republican John McCain has said the situation in Iraq will dictate any pullout schedule, not a timetable set up without consideration of how the war is going.

Rice and Zebari, appearing together at a news conference, asserted that the proposed deal reflects growing confidence in the ability of Iraqi forces to secure the country. A final agreement would require endorsement of the proposed deal by top Iraqi leaders and the Iraqi parliament.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq

-- August 21, 2008 5:38 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

A third article on that terror suspect from Pakistan that Pakistan wants back in their country. Look at the difference in this information.

Parliament seeks return of 'terror suspect'
Reuters
Published: August 21, 2008, 23:42

Islamabad: The National Assembly yesterday sent a strong message to the United States demanding the repatriation of a woman suspected of links to the Al Qaida and facing charges of attempting to kill US soldiers in Afghanistan.

Aafia Siddiqui, 36, a US-trained neuroscientist, was flown to the United States from Afghanistan early this month and was formally charged before a New York court.

"We call upon the federal government to take up the matter with US authorities," said Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, while reading out a resolution adopted unanimously by parliament's lower house.

Qureshi also called on US authorities to provide necessary medical assistance to Siddiqui, who is nursing a gunshot wound to the abdomen US officials say she suffered while firing on a group of American soldiers who wanted to question her in Afghanistan's Ghazni province.

Afghan police arrested Siddiqui after becoming suspicious of her behaviour outside the provincial governor's compound in Ghazni on July 17, according to the US Department of Justice.

Siddiqui had resurfaced after being declared missing for five years by human rights groups.

Her lawyers say they believed she had been secretly detained since March 2003, when she was last seen leaving her parents' home in Karachi. They argue she was held at the Bagram air base in Afghanistan by US authorities.

In 2004, Siddiqui was identified by the FBI as an "Al Qaida operative and facilitator who posed a clear and present danger to America."

Siddiqui was married to a nephew of Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, the accused mastermind of the September 11 terror attacks in New York. Her husband was captured in 2003 and is now held at the US military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.





-- August 21, 2008 8:33 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I thought it might be interesting to share this article with you as it notes the head cleric in Saudia Arabia.


Saudi Arabia


Top cleric quashes colleague's opinion on celebrations
Reuters
Published: August 21, 2008, 23:42
Riyadh: Celebrating anniversaries, birthdays or mother's day is against Muslim 'righteousness', Saudi Arabia's top cleric has said, quashing suggestions by a colleague that Islam permits personal celebrations.
Media savvy cleric Salman Al Awdah told viewers during a television show last week that celebrating birthdays and wedding anniversaries was not against Islam, sparking a debate in the kingdom and prompting the Mufti to weigh in.
Doctrine
Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz Al Shaikh said celebrating such events would make Muslims like followers of other faiths including Jews and Christians, Al Madinah newspaper reported.
Al Shaikh embodies Wahhabism, the Islamic doctrine that has ruled hand in hand with the Saud family since the kingdom was founded some eight decades ago.

Women are banned from driving and mixing with unrelated men in Saudi Arabia. Clerics issue edicts ordering Saudis not to buy red roses on Valentine's Day on an annual basis. "A Muslim should thank almighty Allah if his children are healthy and if his married life is stable as the years pass by," the paper quoted Al Shaikh as saying.
Al Shaikh said that two occasions call for celebration in the Muslim world and those are Eid Al Fitr, which marks the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, and Eid Al Adha, which marks the end of the annual Haj pilgrimage.
Awdah, who follows a relatively softer line, is widely believed to be favoured by circles close to King Abdullah.
The monarch has repeatedly said that Saudi Arabia needs reforms.


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It would be interesting to see how the lack of celebrations in a marriage stack up for healthy marriages in Saudia Arabia according to this doctrine.

-- August 21, 2008 9:18 PM


NEIL wrote:

Tim Bitts:

I like everything that you write and especially you analogy of how conservatives are brow beaten to the point that they will put up with almost anything to avoid being called a racists.

I find myself in that situation, if someone cuts me off in traffic I am enraged but when I see that it is a black person, I cool down as I don't want a confrontation which will label me a racist.

Why are conservatives bad people because of slavery which was 150 years ago. Most black people now have never experienced any real discrimination (only perceived). The people that I know feel guilty because the MSM has heaped so much guilt upon them that they will back down from any type situation and apologize to the black person to avoid a scene.

If you are a liberal, please do not feel sorry for a black person in the South anymore as they have the best of both worlds down here, they automatically get preference when applying for a job and white people are bending over backward to avoid being called a racists.

The only areas where I see a disadvantage to blacks now is in the upper echelon where rich people have passed on riches and power to their children. Black people do not have many rich people who can pass down riches and power.

What I have just said is taboo these days and anyone making these comments is automatically a racists. Now in my defense, let me say that I really like most black people. It is the few thieves, thugs and violent blacks that make white people afraid of them and wnat to avoid them.

-- August 21, 2008 11:53 PM


Sara wrote:

I appreciate that, Laura.. certainly the US viewpoint is not pointed out in the media.. here or in Pakistan. If the US outlets are biased against even stating the US view.. where do you turn to get the news which gives coverage of the US viewpoint?

Thanks, timbitts.. that is a good piece of insight. About not being talked to in a demeaning way.. what really bothers me is when they not only demean, but do so as they distort the truth.

Case in point..

I found this article today, "Democrat Mantra of More Deaths By Terror Under Bush DISPROVEN" excellent. I wish it had more play in the media so people would know the truth and not be taken in by this false Liberal talking point. The only reason the American people think going into Iraq was a wrong move.. is because their views are based on media distortions of the truth like this one.

Sara.

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Dem Mantra of More Deaths By Terror Under Bush Disproven
By Warner Todd Huston
August 21, 2008

A new independent study shows that deaths from terrorism have actually declined by more than 40 percent since 2001. This flies in the face of the constant Democrat mantra that states the opposite, that terrorism has increased since Bush initiated the War on Terror. It is a mantra that the media have helpfully spread for their friends at the DNC.

We've heard it again and again from the left in this country; deaths by terror have increased under George W. Bush and his War on Terror has failed. Along with so many on the left side of the aisle in the U.S., Barack Obama has said this several times in the past, too. At the Democratic debate at Saint Anselm College on Jun 3, 2007, for instance, Obama said that Bush's war has failed. "We live in a more dangerous world," Obama said on that stage, "partly as a consequence of Bush's actions..."

The Democrats have been fond of using a study by Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank, research fellows at the Center on Law and Security at the NYU School of Law, to prove that terrorism is worse under Bush. In fact, this study appears right on Obama's own website in an entry by one of his bloggers, Deb Henry.
Bergen and Cruickshank claimed to have found a 607 percent increase in terrorism since 2003. They defined terrorism as an act of violence, or the threat of violence, calculated to create an atmosphere of fear and alarm. They didn't just count actual deaths and attacks, but added threats to their statistics. Who cannot see that such a method would wildly inflate the numbers?

But the new study by Simon Fraser University in Canada tells a far different tale than the favorite lefty study.

Other polls also support the claim that the world is not "more dangerous" since the war on terror began.

QUOTE:

A 2002 Pew Research Center poll of Muslim countries found alarming levels of support for al-Qaida and its tactics. In Lebanon, for instance, 74 percent of the respondents said they believed suicide bombing was justified.

Four years later, Pew polled again in Muslim nations and discovered very different attitudes. The percentage of people in Lebanon who said they thought suicide bombing was justified had fallen to 34 percent. In Jordan, support for suicide bombing plummeted 20 points between 2002 and 2007.

==end quote==

Such polls show a sharp decline for support of terrorism in the Muslim world since the invasion of Iraq. "Obviously, the war didn't fuel extremist views in Muslim countries," as the Press-Register notes.

Even more amazingly, this new study finds a 65 percent decline in terrorist attacks since 2004.

Also... quote:

There has been an “extraordinary, but largely unnoticed, positive change” in the sub-Saharan African security landscape, with the number of conflicts being waged reduced by more than half between 1999 and 2006, and the combat toll dropping by 98 per cent.

A decline in the total number of armed conflicts and combat deaths around the world also continues.

==end quote==

All this seems to explode that old the-world-is-more-dangerous myth that the Democrats have promulgated for the last six or seven years. Chances are the media will not talk much about this study, the Democrats will continue on as if it never happened, and Bush Derangement Syndrome will continue unabated.

Comments:

1) The KEY Irrefutable statistic by KC Mulville

The KEY Irrefutable statistic.. How many successful foreign terrorist attacks have there been in this country since 9/11?

Back on 9/12/01, how many would you have guessed there would have been over the next seven years?

2) Come now...real facts don't by bigtimer

Come now...real facts don't matter when it comes to the enemy within...they have real hatred and an agenda to feed.

Looks like starvation may be coming to all leftist near and far in the days to come though.

Repeating a lie often enough isn't working...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

3) Bush ought to go on national by mattm

Bush ought to go on national T.V. and demand an apology from all the "Bush Lied - People Died" liars.

4) "We live in a more by general company

"We live in a more dangerous world," Obama said on that stage, "partly as a consequence of Bush's actions..."

Of course Obama would end terrorism all together by capitulating and simply letting the radicals have their way. Or did he have another idea?

"Television is a freak show" - Bernie Goldberg

5) He will meet with them by motherbelt

He will meet with them without preconditions.

We already know their side of the argument: we convert to Islam and live under Sharia law.

What's Obama's counter-offer?

6) Yes... by Warner Todd Huston

Yes, Obama will meet with dictators, murders and oppressors without precondition... but he won't meet McCain in a debate!

7) This is great and it also supports my theory by Dee Bunk

This is great and it also supports my theory that success is what recruits people. Al Queda had more support after 9/11 because they were seen as powerful and able to take on the U.S. the reason it's down now is they are losing. Dems don't get it.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/21/dem-mantra-more-deaths-terror-under-bush-disproven

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timbitts - It is much like the fact that Saddam would have had the bomb in a year (a fact published by newspapers in Nov 2006, including the New York Times), and we know he was discussing bombing Washington with WMD but not tracing it back to Iraq in those tapes ABC aired.. this man was a threat to the US. Again for those who haven't read on it (with references):

Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away." [61] Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity. In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?" [62] http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom#Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction

Not only that, but it is demonstrated here that going into Iraq has indeed lowered the risk of terrorism on US soil and worldwide. If these FACTS - along with the FACT we have won in Iraq - were only known and accepted by the majority of people in the US, their view that the War in Iraq was a waste of time and a wrong move would be changed. As I said before, I believe if President Bush and the Congress had not acted to deal with Saddam that the United States would have already had nuclear and WMD terrorist attacks (sponsored by Saddam Hussein) on US soil by now. The MILLIONS of lives who were saved by this course of action, and the LESSENING of the threat of terrorism are not appreciated by the US public because the "watchdog" media are in the tank for the leftists and want to make the Republican Administration look bad so they can seize power. I am grateful God is in control and won't let them, as they are not deserving and do not have the best interests of the country at heart.

Sara.

-- August 22, 2008 1:02 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Very interesting points, Sara.

However, the truth is, by the time people get jobs in America's media, their minds are already made up, with a liberal worldview. Several studies over the last few decades confirm that a large percentage of people who work in journalism describe themselves as liberals. The reason so many university educated people end up as liberals, is that a large percentage of professors at universities are liberals, and influence young students. The professors in American universities are the radical flower children of the 1960s, and are heavily liberal.

And reasonably smart jerks like Bill Mahr pick up on this, and turn liberal, in deference to the elites, which allow Bill to be pompous, look down his nose at Christians, and conservatives, and call them idiots.

To take back the media, conservatives need to take back the universities. My profs, when I got a degree, centuries ago, were mostly left wing liberals and communists. Now, Christians are starting to take back America, with Christian based universities like Liberty University, turning out graduates, who can run America, including the media.

And this is needed, right up to the highest levels. Most people who attend Ivy League Universities, which produce most of the elites that run America, are liberals. The majority of the profs are liberal. That's why the media ends up very liberal. Conservatives have lost control of America, and to some degree, have lost control over which ideas dominate. While Republicans have dominated politically for a while, a majority of the intellectual elite in America are liberal.

This can change, slowly, but only if Christian leaders make a long term commitment to steering America back toward being a nation founded on Judeo Christian principles. I know this is happening already, and the culture war down there has been going on a long time, all I have to add is an awful lot more needs to be done, for a long time.

And that, realistically is how liberal media bias will change. I agree with your assessment that news is incredibly biased. That's because people will always filter and select reality, including what news to publish, and what it means, based on their over-arching worldview, which right now is overwhelmingly liberal, in the media. To change that, American culture itself needs to change. Biased news coverage is a symptom of a country that is dominated by liberal opinionmakers with bad ideas.

With this in mind, when President Bush does great things, and leads the world to a more secure world, as he is doing, I fully expect, not the truth to come out, but instead, the lies in the media, which you brought out. And that is exactly what happens. My cynical expectations are not disappointed.

Neil,

Thanks. Race is a very tricky issue. I always have a big heart for people who have had a hard time, and part of what liberals believe, is a strong emphasis on fairness, irregardless of skin color. I support that notion myself, so as a young man, I would have considered myself to be a natural liberal.

But Winston Churchill once said, "If a man is not a liberal by the time he's 20, he has no heart. If he's not a conservative by the time he's 40, he has no brain". Well, I was a liberal by 20, and a conservative well before 40. I have worked with, and had friends with, and continue to have friend of all kinds of races and religions. I grew up, absorbing the cultural idea, in the air, in the 1960s, that any non-white person always had a hard time, always was discriminated against, etc. I think that was the general idea in the air at the time. Being a fair minded person, I didn't like that, and I still don't like any sort of discrimination. But my views evolved when confronted with reality.

As I say, I worked with a wide variety of people. I have known a lot of Sikhs, Hindus and Orientals who had fine families, with a lot more wealth than I, as a poor white had, growing up. My experience in Canada was a bit different than the States, Canada tended to pick better educated non white immigrants, not poor blacks, and most of the people I hung around with were pretty well educated non whites. I came to see a wide variety of personality types, and I came to see people for what they are. And I came to see the bad side to many cultures, up front, which really surprised my, growing up and absorbing the liberal fairy tale that all non whites cultures are nice. And I came to see that society was changing, and that the liberal mindset I grew up with, the underlying liberal assumptions of the 1960s: that white people were evil, non-whites were always good and noble, whites were always the oppressors etc., that all of that was simple minded garbage having little to do with the complex reality all around me.

I remember one time, I applied for a job. An Asian guy got the job. He came from a great family, his family brought over lots of money from Hong Kong, and as I say, I've done pretty well in life, but I started out poor white, with few advantages, from the wrong end, of the wrong side of the tracks, but because of a Canadian government policy favouring non-whites over whites, put in by liberal elites to end "racism", I didn't get the job. I know I was the better candidate, but it was me who was discriminated against. That really ticked me off.

And I've seen minority racism against whites up close, and am a careful observer of behavior, and I know I have been the victum of racism myself. And it took a lot of guts, but I pointed this out to some non whites at the time, that they were being racist. They laughed and said no one would take that seriously, that a minority couldn't be accused of racism, because white people supposedly ran the world. Most whites don't think it possible to be a white victum of racism by non whites, but that's just another liberal myth. Racism is definintely not a one way street. It's a two way street. I would never harbour ugly attitudes toward anyone, because it's just wrong, but I know perfectly well from experience that anti-white racism and hostility is subtle, but alive and well in some minority communities.

So what does that all make me? Just a common sense human being. I don't like labels too much, but if I had to pin one on myself, I'm generally conservative. While I agree with liberals on some issues, their overall belief systems I just don't buy.

-- August 22, 2008 3:26 AM


Carole wrote:

Hi Roger!

Gosh, I must have missed the whole story of why you were going to Iraq!
I thought it was some sort of tourist trip....but I guess much more serious than that.
anyway, glad to hear from you and please stay safe.

Your account of what you are seeing their, makes the "successful surge" hard to believe.Where do you think all those billions of reconstruction monies are going?

Anyway, whatever you are doing you are to commended for bravery. But don't forget my advice....."duck when necessary and zip the lip"
:) :) :)

I want you home safe...remember you promised a piggy back ride at the "ROAST".

GOD bless and keep you safe.

Carole

-- August 22, 2008 4:10 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I think our time in this investment is winding down. With a tentative withdraw date of 2012 we are a about 3 years from its conclusion.

For your consideration I ask the following: will the Iraqi's between now and the withdraw date find the unity amongst themselves to pass the Hydro Carbon Law and election law? Will they also find the intestinal fortitude to reach a national consensus of reconcilation and continue the the work started by the United States; or, will they fall into the diabolical hands of the Iranians? Will shoulder some of the expense of reconstruction by monetizing their oil and raise the value of the New Iraqi Dinar?

I guess we have until 2012 and the withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces to see if these questions can be answered within the stated time frame.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 22, 2008 10:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi Figures Back U.S. View on Low Spending for Reconstruction

Internal budget figures provided for the first time by the Iraqi government suggest that it has spent as little as 18 percent of the money it has devoted to rebuilding the country this year, roughly in line with previous estimates by American oversight agencies, but far below the amount cited by the Iraqi government itself.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 22, 2008 10:35 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

KRG hosts conference to bolster coordination between northern provinces and federal government

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Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani, along with Iraq’s Deputy Prime Minister Rafi’ Al-Isawi and US Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker, yesterday opened a conference that focused on improving coordination between the federal government and the seven northern provinces.

The one-day economic conference, held at Shahid Saad Abdullah Conference Centre in Erbil, was attended by representatives from the governorates or provinces of Ninawa, Kirkuk, Diyala, Salahaddin, Sulemaniya, Erbil and Dohuk, as well as several ministers from both the Iraqi federal and the Kurdistan regional governments, and General Mark Hertling of the Multinational Forces.

Prime Minister Barzani, in his speech, emphasised the value of empowering regional, provincial, and local authorities. He explained that the devolution of power is practiced in advanced countries across the globe because it is more effective. “Modern governing systems have demonstrated that local and regional authorities are more responsible to their people, more efficient, more active in their work, and less burdened by bureaucracy and administrative complications,” the Prime Minister said. He added that the KRG has devolved authority to governorates and local levels when possible. “We believe that the closer authorities are to people, the more familiar they will be with the people’s needs.”

The discussions at the conference focused on the tools by which such empowerment can be best implemented. Ambassador Crocker said that although the challenges facing Iraq would not be solved in one day, having a dialogue among federal, regional, and provincial authorities is very positive.

Iraq’s Deputy Prime Minister Al-Isawi initiated discussions and urged participants to focus on possible solutions.

The principle concern to most governors was the federal disbursement of funds needed to implement projects and sustain development. All sides agreed that more communication between the federal government and the governorates would be beneficial. Mr Al-Isawi directed the federal planning and finance ministries to form a committee to study this further.

Another topic of discussion was the distribution of imported goods. The federal trade ministry and the governors’ offices agreed to form a committee to ensure there are improvements in the flow of imports to the northern governorates.

The governors raised concerns regarding the federal allocation of lands that are zoned for specific purposes, such as hospitals or schools. Mr Al-Isawi directed the relevant ministries and governors to cooperate and streamline the process of presenting and reviewing proposals for the use of such lands.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 22, 2008 10:37 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on military agreement on troop deal to pull back from cities of Iraq to remote military bases away from population of Iraq.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/08/ap_iraq_082008/
news/2008/08/ap_iraq_082008
Iraq deal calls for June pullout from cities
By Matthew Lee and Qassim Abdul-Zahra - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Aug 22, 2008 7:17:36 EDT
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BAGHDAD — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Iraq’s foreign minister said Thursday that American and Iraqi officials agree that timetables should be set for a U.S. troop withdrawal but conceded that nailing down a broader pact on future relations is difficult.
Appearing together at a news conference, Rice and Hoshyar Zebari also mutually asserted that a final agreement between Washington and Baghdad on a broad document spelling out the nature of any future U.S. troop presence and Washington-Baghdad relations is close to fruition but not yet complete.
“We have agreed that some goals, some aspirational timetables for how that might unfold, are well worth having in such an agreement,” Rice told reporters after meeting with Iraqi officials, including Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. The two sides had come together on a draft agreement earlier this week, and Rice made an unannounced visit to Baghdad to press officials there to complete the accord.
Zebari, asked about fears expressed by neighboring countries over such a pact, said in Arabic: “This [agreement] is a sovereign one and Iran and other neighboring countries have the right to ask for clarifications. ... There are clear articles [that] say that Iraq will not be used as a launching pad for any aggressive acts against neighboring countries and we already did clarify this.”
A key part of the U.S.-Iraqi draft agreement envisions the withdrawal of American forces from Iraq’s cities by next June 30.
Zebari said, “This agreement determines the principal provisions, requirements, to regulate the temporary presence and the time horizon, the mission of the U.S. forces.”
On the plane to Baghdad, Rice had told reporters, “The negotiators have taken this very, very far. But there is no reason to believe that there is an agreement yet. There are still issues concerning exactly how our forces operate.”
Her comments dampened speculation that agreement might be reached while she is in Baghdad, her first visit to Iraq since March. U.S. and Iraqi officials had said Wednesday that a draft document was done and awaiting approval from political leaders.
Rice displayed similar caution in the news conference with Zebari.
“Obviously, the American forces are here, coalition forces are here at the invitation of the Iraqi government,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is put together an agreement that protects our people, respects Iraq’s sovereignty.
“But the goal is to have Iraqi forces responsible for the security of Iraq,” Rice added. “That is the goal and that has been the goal from the beginning.”
She said the military surge has worked and “we are making progress together in the defeat of Iraq’s enemies of all stripes.”
“We’re not sitting here talking about an agreement to try to get out of a bad situation,” Rice said, calling the agreement one that “builds on the success we have had in the last year. This agreement is based on success.”
Zebari conceded that officials had hoped to conclude the pact earlier but said that “it has taken us more time,” citing internal political factors.
“Really, we are very, very close to closing this agreement,” he said, “and as we said from the beginning, there is no hidden agenda here.”
The foreign minister said the pact that U.S. and Iraqi officials are trying to finish will be presented to Iraq’s Executive Council for review.
“Time is of the essence,” he said, “but, really, we are redoubling our efforts to bring this to a successful conclusion.”
Iraqi and American officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday that negotiators had completed a draft agreement that extends the legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in Iraq beyond the end of this year, while calling for them to move out of Iraqi cities as soon as June 30.
A senior U.S. military official in Washington said the deal is acceptable to the U.S. side, subject to formal approval by President Bush. It also requires approval by Iraqi leaders, and some members of Iraq’s Cabinet oppose some provisions.
Also completed is a companion draft document, known as a strategic framework agreement, spelling out in broad terms the political, security and economic relationships between Iraq and the U.S., the senior military official said. The official discussed the draft accords on condition that he not be identified by name because the deals have not been publicly announced and are not final.
In addition to spelling out that U.S. troops would move out of Iraqi cities by next summer, the Iraqi government has pushed for a specific date — most likely the end of 2011 — by which all U.S. forces would depart the country. In the meantime, the U.S. troops would be positioned on bases in other parts of the country to make them less visible while still being able to assist Iraqi forces as needed.
There are now about 140,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.
U.S. officials have resisted committing firmly to a specific date for a final pullout, insisting that it would be wiser to set a target linked to the attainment of certain agreed-upon goals. These goals would reflect not only security improvements but also progress on the political and economic fronts

-- August 22, 2008 10:55 AM


Laura Parke wrote:

Digg http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/08/gns_iraq_propaganda_082108/
news/2008/08/gns_iraq_propaganda_082108
Terrorists’ propaganda takes hit in Iraq

By Jim Michaels - USA Today
Posted : Thursday Aug 21, 2008 18:49:14 EDT

WASHINGTON — Military successes in Iraq have nearly crippled al-Qaida’s ability to produce battlefield propaganda, hampering for now its ability to recruit fighters and raise money, the U.S. military and analysts say.

The amount of Web statements and videos attributed to the main al-Qaida group in Iraq fell to 12 in May from more than 200 in May 2007, according to SITE Intelligence Group, an independent organization that tracks terrorist Web activity.

Air Force Col. Scott Maw, a U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, described al-Qaida’s propaganda operations in Iraq as “severely degraded.”

Terrorist organizations such as al-Qaida have proved resourceful in the past and have quickly adapted to setbacks, however.

While publicity material linked to Iraq has been declining, the Taliban in Afghanistan have been increasing their presence on the Web in recent months.

There were more than 100 Taliban statements on terrorist-affiliated forums in May, up from about 24 in May 2007, according to SITE. The Taliban’s propaganda is not as professional as the material produced by al-Qaida in Iraq, which is “more polished and has superior production values,” said Rita Katz, director of SITE.

Insurgents have been careful to film most of their attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces over the years, ensuring they get wide distribution on the Internet. The videos had become a staple on terrorist-affiliated Web sites.

The publicity helps prove to financial contributors that the groups are effective and also aids recruiting.

The decline in al-Qaida publicity in Iraq is largely a reflection of broad successes in disrupting the organization.

The U.S. military also has been able to specifically target al-Qaida’s propaganda cells — in addition to other networks — as U.S. intelligence has improved in recent years.

The cells are responsible for producing videos, statements and training films.

Last month, operations directed against propaganda cells in Iraq resulted in the killing or capture of 11 cell members and the seizure of more than 800 gigabytes of data, Maw said. The data include videos, propaganda fliers, speeches and instruction manuals.

The decline in violence and reduction in publicity material has also moderated the way Iraq is covered on Arab news stations, such as Al-Jazeera, which had been criticized by the Bush administration for its coverage early in the war.

Arab satellite news channels have shifted their coverage away from violence toward more stories on Iraqi politics and other subjects, said Ramez Maluf, a professor at Lebanese American University in Beirut and an expert on Arab news channels.

Iraq’s government is now viewed with more legitimacy in the Arab news media, which has helped broaden the coverage, Maluf said.

“The one thing that is visible is the increasing treatment of Iraq and the Iraqi government as a reality,” Maluf said.

-- August 22, 2008 11:21 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article of interest on the fight against terrorism.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/08/ap_afghanistan_081908/
news/2008/08/ap_afghanistan_081908
Bombers fail in attempt to storm Afghan base
By Jason Straziuso and Amir Shah - The Associated Press
Posted : Thursday Aug 21, 2008 8:53:17 EDT

SUROBI, Afghanistan — Insurgents mounted two of the biggest attacks in years on Western forces in Afghanistan, killing 10 French soldiers in a mountain ambush and sending a squad of suicide bombers in a failed assault on a U.S. base near the Pakistan border.
The audacious strikes Monday and Tuesday suggested a bolder insurgency is now willing to launch frontal assaults on U.S. and NATO troops.
Only months ago, militants shied away from large-scale attacks because of the heavy losses they could incur when jet fighters appeared overhead, NATO and U.S. officials said.
But the Taliban and other militant groups appear increasingly willing to commit large numbers of foot soldiers to onslaughts that attempt to overwhelm small groups of U.S. and NATO troops. Just last month, some 200 militants attacked a small U.S. outpost in Afghanistan’s eastern mountains, penetrating its perimeter and killing nine American soldiers.
The suicide attack Tuesday on Camp Salerno, the U.S. base that serves as the logistics hub for the war’s eastern front, began just after midnight when a team of attackers dressed in military fatigues was spotted on the horizon.
Afghan and U.S. forces confronted the militants some 1,000 yards from the base entrance, while fighter aircraft attacked from the air. Once surrounded, three suicide bombers blew themselves up, and three more were shot to death, NATO said in a statement. It said a seventh militant was also killed and two NATO soldiers were wounded.
The French soldiers were on a reconnaissance mission when they were ambushed Monday afternoon by a force of about 100 militants in the mountains of Surobi, an insurgent redoubt 30 miles east of the Afghan capital of Kabul.
France’s top military official, Gen. Jean-Louis Georgelin, said most of the French casualties came in the minutes after the soldiers ascended a mountain pass. Battles ensued and 21 French soldiers were wounded.
French Defense Minister Herve Morin said about 30 militants were killed and 30 wounded, while Afghan officials said at least 13 militants were killed. Taliban fighters and militants allied to renegade warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar operate in Surobi.
It was the deadliest attack on international troops in Afghanistan since June 2005, when 16 American soldiers were killed when their helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade.
The high casualties prompted French President Nicolas Sarkozy to immediately board a plane for Afghanistan. France is sending 700 more soldiers to Afghanistan this month, and the deaths could heighten domestic opposition to the plan.
“In its fight against terrorism, France has just been struck severely,” Sarkozy said in a statement, adding: “My determination remains intact.”
Seth Jones, an analyst at the Washington-based RAND Corp., said the latest attacks “targeting U.S. and other NATO forces, and Afghan forces, have become larger and bolder, and they include direct, almost conventional-style attacks.”
“In late 2006 and into 2007, there was a much greater reluctance among the Taliban and other groups to carry out these conventional-style attacks,” said Jones, who travels frequently to Afghanistan. The new operations indicate “they clearly believe they are winning now, and it’s caused them to be a bit more audacious.”
Nearly seven years after a U.S.-led offensive toppled a Taliban regime, the surge in violence is a blow for the Afghan government of President Hamid Karzai, who has struggled to exert control and draw away support from the insurgents.
Karzai told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he plans to seek re-election next year, saying he needs to do more to pursue his goal of rebuilding Afghanistan into “peaceful prosperous country” able to stand on its own.
He conceded during the interview that the country still doesn’t have a functioning government, corruption remains rampant and the Afghan people “suffer massively” from the fighting.
This year will likely be the deadliest for international troops since the 2001 invasion. Some 178 international soldiers, including about 96 Americans, have died in Afghanistan this year, according to an Associated Press count. That pace should far surpass the record 222 international troop deaths in 2007.
The attack on Camp Salerno came a day after a suicide car bombing outside the U.S. base killed 10 Afghan civilians and wounded 13 others.
President Bush, briefed at his Texas ranch about the French deaths, offered a “heartfelt thanks for the sacrifice that they are making and the commitment that the French are making to help secure Afghanistan,” said White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe.
Jones, the RAND analyst, said insurgents are benefiting from a learning process that comes with years of fighting. They are exploiting vulnerable spots more effectively and increasingly using intelligence to their advantage. Safe havens in Pakistan also aid their effectiveness, he said.
More than 3,400 people — mostly militants — have been killed in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press count based on figures from Western and Afghan officials.


-- August 22, 2008 11:30 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Rob,

I agree with your assessment of the timeline of this investment. Unless something completely unforseen happens, it will play out as you say. Of course, if there is a war with Iran, it could change the timeline. And if there is a major terrorist strike against the U.S., it could change the timeline. If extremists are successful in re-igniting ethnic conflict, it could change the timeline.

The situation in Iraq continues to evolve. The old saying, "out of sight, out of mind" applies here. As you posted, American troops will likely remove themselves from Iraqi cities, by next June. How will that change the mood of Iraqis? I don't know. People always feel less threatened, when they don't see foreign troops around. Iraq is a big place. It's about the size of California, and most of it is empty space. Iraqis are concentrated in big cities. Very few Iraqis, even if they wanted to, have cars, to be able to drive around Iraq, and explore their home country. Most of them have seen a very limited amount of their own country, because travel has always been difficult and dangerous.

Once the American Army pulls out of big cities in Iraq, ordinary Iraqis will feel a whole lot less like they are being occupied. And most Iraqis remember that only a couple of decades ago, Iran and Iraq fought a bitter war that cost Iraqis 1 million lives. That war affected every family within Iraq. Most Iraqis either lost a family member, or know someone who did. It's a very personal and searing memory for them. They know Iran will remain far more of a threat to them than America. They just might consider inviting America to stay a bit longer, as an insurance policy against Iran, and other ethnic factions within Iraq, that have turned on each other, in the past.

Will the Iraqis still want the Americans to pull out of their country? I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. My guess is, after the pullout from the cities, American forces will be invited to stay, by the Iraqis, on the basis of short, two year agreements, under strict sets of conditions, that respect Iraqi sovereignty, and limit American troop numbers, and set up clear rules under which American troops can do anything within Iraq.

Alberta, my home province, and Iraq, are very roughly comparable in size. America has a military base for it's airforce, in Alberta. They are stationed in the middle of nowhere, as part of a NORAD agreement, in northern Alberta, far away from large cities, where most Albertans live. And British and various NATO troops train in an isolated area of Alberta, by mutual agreement. I'd guess most Albertans don't even know there are foreign troops in Alberta. My home province of Alberta, like Iraq, is a pretty big place, of mostly empty space, and most people concentrated in a couple of large cities. Out of site, out of mind.

And, I'm pretty sure, American troops and permanent military bases would be welcomed, with open arms, in the northern one third of Iraq. Kurds really like Americans. As you know, because of the history of Iraq, the Kurds, up north, don't trust the Sunnis or the Shiite Arabs. The central government of Iraq, under Saddam, allowed the slaughter of 50,000 Kurdish women and children. Kurds like Americans an awful lot, and feel threated by Turkey as well, and would love to have permanent American bases, if they could get away with it, from the central Iraqi government.

I'm not saying this will happen, but it's a possibility.

Overall, my guess is, the Iraqi government will get it's act together, in time, and this investment will turn out incredibly well. Overall, I'm very optimistic about the long term prospects for Iraq, and this investment. I plan to buy more Dinar.

Cheers

-- August 22, 2008 11:56 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on USA and Russian diplomatic relations.

US concedes Kremlin’s first military response in Georgia was “legitimate”
DEBKAfile Special Report
August 22, 2008, 5:15 PM (GMT+02:00)

US Ambassador John Beyrle in Moscow
The US ambassador to Moscow, endorsing Russia's initial moves in Georgia, described the Kremlin's first military response as legitimate after Russian troops came under attack.
This was the first positive statement by an American official about Moscow’s first response to the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia, after a string of condemnations from the heads of the Bush administration. It came from US ambassador John Beyrle, who arrived in Moscow last month, in an interview published by the Russian daily Kommersant Friday, Aug. 22.
DEBKA-Net-Weekly disclosed Friday in its lead article that Washington and Moscow are working quietly and intensively to set up a summit between President George W. Bush and Russian prime minister Vladimir Put to bring crisis-ridden US-Russian relations back on an even keel. (Both Powers Push for a Bush-Putin Summit.)
Ambassador Beyrle’s words were the first public departure by a US official from the critical remarks of Moscow’s conduct heard uniformly from Bush, Condoleezza Rice and Robert Gates.
The ambassador said Washington had not sanctioned Georgia’s initial actions when on Aug. 8, after a succession of tense skirmishes, Georgian forces attacked South Ossetia, triggering a massive Russian reaction when its peacekeepers came under fire.
“We did not want to see a recourse to violence and force and we made that very, very clear,” said Beyrle. “The fact that we were trying to convince the Georgian side not to take this step is clear evidence that we did not want all this to happen,” he said.
DEBKAfile: This was the first US admission that Georgia was the aggressor in South Ossetia and showed cracks in their hitherto solid support for president Mikhail Saakashvili.
Beyrle said Washington still supports Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization – an official departure from implied American threats to punish Moscow by international isolation.
The US ambassador’s interview was run in the same Russian paper which quoted Syrian president Bashar Assad on Wednesday, as announcing he was willing to accept Russian missile bases in his country. Beyrle’s words look like a bid to halt the deterioration in Russo-American relations before they veer out of control in a second global arena.
In another telling remark, the US ambassador said: “We have seen the destruction of civilian infrastructure, as well as calls by some Russian politicians to change the democratically-elected government of Georgia. That is why we believe that Russia has gone too far.”
The subtext here, say DEBKAfile’s sources, is that if Moscow continues to pull troops out of Georgia and does not threaten the country’s integrity and regime, Russian and US leaders can do business.
DEBKAfile reported Wednesday, Aug. 20: Back-door US-Russian contacts to de-escalate war of words - after Moscow threatens to nuke Poland
Both powers have begun acting to cool the rhetoric and review relations, after spokesmen in Washington - and especially Moscow - raised the threat level of their oratory to its highest pitch since the Cold War’s end.
To read that article, click HERE

-- August 22, 2008 12:06 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

It would seem that Syria and Iran have a mutual defense pack. See article.

Iran Achieves a Four-Front Missile Command, Breakthrough on Nuclear Missile Warheads
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
August 11, 2008

Gen. Mohammed Ali Jafari, chief of Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps
DEBKAfile’s military sources disclose that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps have created a separate missile command, in which Syria’s missile force is to be integrated. The joint command was formalized in a new mutual defense treaty signed by the Syrian defense minister, Gen. Hassan Turkmani in Tehran last week.
Israeli military sources judge the operational merger of Iranian and Syrian missile corps to be a major strategic hazard to the Jewish state.
Western and Israeli military experts connect it with other indications that Iran’s program for developing missiles capable of delivering nuclear payloads has gone into high gear and reached an advanced stage. They believe the Iranians have beaten most of the technical difficulties holding it up.
On May 26, the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, which often goes easy on Iran, released a harsh report confirming Iran’s progress in “missile warhead design.”
The new missile command was cautiously announced last week by the IRGC commander, Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari. He said: “An independent command might be created in Sepah (IRGC) in order to fortify the structure and activities of the missile section.”
DEBKAfile’s Iranians sources explain Jafar’s cautious language on three grounds:
1. He was preparing Iran’s population and the Arab world for a pretty portentous development.
2. He was at pains not to put off figures in the West who argue strongly in favor of unconditional talks with Tehran over its nuclear misdeeds. He counted on those advocates shouting down the Western strategists who would appreciate the startling significance of the separate command.
3. Tehran also views Syria’s co-option and the new mutual defense treaty as a sort of guarantee that Assad’s “peace talks” with Israel will in no way detract from his military and other commitments to Iran.
DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources disclose that the details of the combined command were worked out ahead of the Syrian defense minister’s talks in Tehran: It was agreed that Syria’s missile units would come under the new independent Iranian missile section and their operations would be fully coordinated with Tehran. Iranian officers are to be attached to Syrian units and Syrian officers posted to the Iranian command.
In the interim, Hizballah’s rise to power in Beirut has brought Lebanon into the shared Syrian-Iranian orbit. This development has enabled Tehran to line up a row of missiles deployments of varying strengths from Iran, Syria and Lebanon and up to the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip – a missile array never before seen in the Middle East and a strategic menace most of Israel’s security leaders rate unacceptable.
Military experts comment that Tehran’s centralized control of four hostile missile fronts will virtually neutralize the American and Israeli anti-missile defense systems in the region; the Arrow and the Patriot missile interceptors could handle incoming missiles from one or maybe two directions – but not four.
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Israel’s armed forces have been working overtime, against repeated holdups, to get the third Arrow battery installed. It is to be deployed in northern Israel as a shield against Syrian ballistic missiles and Iranian missiles stationed in Syria.
The formation of the joint Iranian-Syrian missile command has slowed the project down. It calls for modifications in the Arrow’s deployment to meet the fresh challenge and a time-consuming study by US and Israeli intelligence specialists of how the new command structure functions. Western military sources doubt the Arrow system will be up and running by this summer, a period considered critical by military observers.
They discount as over-optimistic recent claims by Israeli officials that the new Iron Dome will be ready for operational testing against short-range missiles in the next year or two.
In a related development, DEBKAfile’s Gulf sources report that next week, Iran’s supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Syrian president Bashar Assad launch a major campaign to further isolate American influence and bludgeon moderate Arab governments into alignment with their extreme anti-US, anti-Israel line.
Assad sets out Sunday, June 1, for the United Arab Emirates for talks with Sheikh KHalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan in Abu Dhabi. Tuesday, he spends two days in Kuwait. The visits were set up by the Qatar ruler Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who spent Friday, May 30, in Assad’s palace, gathering compliments for the Doha accord he mediated which solved Lebanon’s political crisis by installing a national unity government in Beirut dominated by Hizballah.
The Qatari ruler, Assad and Khamenei have joined forces to use the Lebanon accord as an object lesson to teach Arab governments that they do not need the United States or Saudi Arabia to help them manage their problems.
This message was relayed in Iran foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki’s arrogant statement in Stockholm Friday. He said: “The United States of America needs a serious review of its foreign policy towards the Middle East. These policies in… Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine and generally speaking in the Middle East are mistaken policies.”
DEBKAfile’s political sources point out that these reverses are piling up against the United States and Israel at the worst time possible: both governments are hobbled - Washington in the dying days of the Bush administration, and Israel, by the grave corruption allegations against prime minister Ehud Olmert which have placed him and the other two senior policy-makers, the defense and foreign ministers, at loggerheads.

-- August 22, 2008 12:18 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I found a very old article that I believe provides some military insight into the conflict of Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Israel. Thought you all might want to see.

Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

June 9, 2007


Syria and Iran march together
DEBKAfile’s intelligence and Middle East sources take a look at the actions behind the words issuing from Damascus officials affirming Syria’s willingness to go into peace talks with Israel.

During most of last week, two high-ranking Iranian delegations spent time in Damascus. One was composed of generals who held talks with Syrian leaders on coordinated preparations for a Middle East war in the coming months.

At the Iranian end, a similar high-ranking Syrian military delegation called in at Iranian army and Revolutionary Guards headquarters to tighten operational coordination between them at the command level, as well as inspecting the Iranian arsenal. The Syrian general staff will draw up a list of items it is short of for a possible military confrontation with Israel this summer.

Our sources report that last week, Tehran sent Moscow a check for $327 m to pay for assorted missiles consigned to Damascus. A further $438 m has been pledged by the end of June for more hardware to Syria.

Iranian foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki’s three days of talks in Damascus at the end of May further consolidated the strategic partnership between the two governments under the mutual defense pact they signed a year ago.

Their deliberations produced concurrence on the following issues:

1. Expanded economic cooperation, i.e. an enlarged Iranian aid package for Syria including monetary assistance and an extra 5 million tons of oil gratis per annum on top of the one million already guaranteed.

Syrian president Bashar Assad drove a hard bargain: He demanded a larger slice of economic aid as the price for entering into strategic cooperation with Iran for the coming war.

2. The Assad government agreed not to take any military - or other steps with military connotations - without prior notice to Tehran and its assent. This clause applies equally to activating the Lebanese Hizballah and the Palestinian Hamas’ Damascus headquarters.

3. Reciprocal visits by Syrian and Iranian generals and political officials will be stepped up.

4. In Iraq, Iran and Syria agreed to jointly intensify their terrorist operations against US and British troops.

The regime heads in Tehran are basing their common front with Damascus on intelligence reports whereby the US and Israel have drawn up plans for coordinated military action against Iran, Syria and Hizballah in the summer.

According to this hypothesis, Iranian leaders foresee the next UN Security Council in New York at the end of June or early July ending with an American announcement that the sanctions against Tehran are inadequate because Russia and China has toned them down. Therefore, the military option is the only one left on the table. The ayatollahs have concluded that US president George W. Bush is determined to bow out of office on the high note of a glittering military success against Iran to eclipse his failures in Iraq.

They believe he will not risk the lives of more Americans by mounting a ground operation, but rather unleash a broad missile assault that will wipe out Iran’s nuclear facilities and seriously cripple its economic infrastructure.

According to the Iranian scenario, the timeline for hostilities has already been fixed between Washington and Jerusalem - and so has the plan of action. The US will strike Iran first, after which Israel will use the opportunity to go for Syria, targeting its air force, missile bases and deployments, as well as Hizballah’s missile and weapons stocks which Iran replenished this year.

Officials in Tehran and Damascus find confirmation of their intelligence evaluations in the visit Israel’s transport minister Shaul Mofaz paid to Washington last week at the head of a large military delegation. They are certain Mofaz, a former defense minister and chief of staff, used the strategic talks to tie the last ends of the planned offensive. They were perturbed in particular by the Israel minister’s reported advice to secretary of state Condoleezza Rice of the importance of setting a deadline, beyond which the US will abandon sanctions as ineffective and turn to its remaining options for dealing with Iran’s advance towards a nuclear weapons capability.

Considering the climate in Damascus and Tehran and their active pursuit of preparations for imminent attack, it is not surprising that Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert received no reply to the note he sent to Assad proposing peace talks and offering the Golan as an incentive. Assad was not inclined to take the Israeli prime minister seriously. According to DEBKAfile’s sources in Jerusalem, Olmert did not really expect him to. The offer was more in the nature of clearing the decks ahead of Olmert’s White House visit later this month.

-- August 22, 2008 12:32 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I thought this old article to be interesting about how Iran intends to influence Syrian military. I thought you might also.


Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
June 9, 2007

Syria and Iran march together
DEBKAfile’s intelligence and Middle East sources take a look at the actions behind the words issuing from Damascus officials affirming Syria’s willingness to go into peace talks with Israel.
During most of last week, two high-ranking Iranian delegations spent time in Damascus. One was composed of generals who held talks with Syrian leaders on coordinated preparations for a Middle East war in the coming months.
At the Iranian end, a similar high-ranking Syrian military delegation called in at Iranian army and Revolutionary Guards headquarters to tighten operational coordination between them at the command level, as well as inspecting the Iranian arsenal. The Syrian general staff will draw up a list of items it is short of for a possible military confrontation with Israel this summer.
Our sources report that last week, Tehran sent Moscow a check for $327 m to pay for assorted missiles consigned to Damascus. A further $438 m has been pledged by the end of June for more hardware to Syria.
Iranian foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki’s three days of talks in Damascus at the end of May further consolidated the strategic partnership between the two governments under the mutual defense pact they signed a year ago.
Their deliberations produced concurrence on the following issues:
1. Expanded economic cooperation, i.e. an enlarged Iranian aid package for Syria including monetary assistance and an extra 5 million tons of oil gratis per annum on top of the one million already guaranteed.
Syrian president Bashar Assad drove a hard bargain: He demanded a larger slice of economic aid as the price for entering into strategic cooperation with Iran for the coming war.
2. The Assad government agreed not to take any military - or other steps with military connotations - without prior notice to Tehran and its assent. This clause applies equally to activating the Lebanese Hizballah and the Palestinian Hamas’ Damascus headquarters.
3. Reciprocal visits by Syrian and Iranian generals and political officials will be stepped up.
4. In Iraq, Iran and Syria agreed to jointly intensify their terrorist operations against US and British troops.
The regime heads in Tehran are basing their common front with Damascus on intelligence reports whereby the US and Israel have drawn up plans for coordinated military action against Iran, Syria and Hizballah in the summer.
According to this hypothesis, Iranian leaders foresee the next UN Security Council in New York at the end of June or early July ending with an American announcement that the sanctions against Tehran are inadequate because Russia and China has toned them down. Therefore, the military option is the only one left on the table. The ayatollahs have concluded that US president George W. Bush is determined to bow out of office on the high note of a glittering military success against Iran to eclipse his failures in Iraq.
They believe he will not risk the lives of more Americans by mounting a ground operation, but rather unleash a broad missile assault that will wipe out Iran’s nuclear facilities and seriously cripple its economic infrastructure.
According to the Iranian scenario, the timeline for hostilities has already been fixed between Washington and Jerusalem - and so has the plan of action. The US will strike Iran first, after which Israel will use the opportunity to go for Syria, targeting its air force, missile bases and deployments, as well as Hizballah’s missile and weapons stocks which Iran replenished this year.
Officials in Tehran and Damascus find confirmation of their intelligence evaluations in the visit Israel’s transport minister Shaul Mofaz paid to Washington last week at the head of a large military delegation. They are certain Mofaz, a former defense minister and chief of staff, used the strategic talks to tie the last ends of the planned offensive. They were perturbed in particular by the Israel minister’s reported advice to secretary of state Condoleezza Rice of the importance of setting a deadline, beyond which the US will abandon sanctions as ineffective and turn to its remaining options for dealing with Iran’s advance towards a nuclear weapons capability.
Considering the climate in Damascus and Tehran and their active pursuit of preparations for imminent attack, it is not surprising that Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert received no reply to the note he sent to Assad proposing peace talks and offering the Golan as an incentive. Assad was not inclined to take the Israeli prime minister seriously. According to DEBKAfile’s sources in Jerusalem, Olmert did not really expect him to. The offer was more in the nature of clearing the decks ahead of Olmert’s White House visit later this month.


-- August 22, 2008 12:54 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Questions I'd like to hear the media ask Obama:

Question: "Is it true your father was an alcoholic, a polygamist, and a Marxist?"

Answer: true.

Question: "Is it true that your father was a Muslim?"

Answer: true.

Questin: "Your wife said that before this race, she has never been proud of America. Do you agree with her?"

Answer: who knows?

Question: "Do you speak or read any Arabic?"

Answer: probably true. he studied in a Muslim shool, as a child, where the Qu'ran was taught, in Arabic, he was registered as a Muslim in that school, and he is very gifted and quick, with language.

Question: "You said, in regards to race relations, and reparations for past injustices, that it was time to put actions into words. How much money do you want white people to pay to black people? Is it fair to call this a racial tax?"

Answer: who knows, and yes.

Anybody else have any other questions for Obama?

-- August 22, 2008 12:56 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

More military news of Iran's influence with Gaza.

DEBKAfile: Hamas averages 8.2 missiles a day in 2007, steps up Iran-Syrian-backed preparations for full-scale war. Israel improves terror-preventive performance
January 7, 2008, 6:25 PM (GMT+02:00)

The annual report of Israel’s domestic intelligence service, Shin Bet, paints a troubling picture of a Hamas-ruled government in Gaza expanding its efforts to build a war machine capable of taking on Israel in full-scale military combat, with active input from Iran and Syria.
In the outgoing year, Hamas and its allies fired more than 1.300 Qassam missiles and 1,700 mortar shells from Gaza, subjecting Israeli communities in an expanding radius to a daily average of 8.2 projectiles. At the same time, the Shin Bet and IDF were strikingly successful in their preventive campaign. They thwarted 29 major attacks inside Israel originating in Gaza, and the number of Israelis killed by terrorists declined from 50 in 2005 and 24 in 2006 to 13 in 2007.
Nonetheless, the Palestinians mounted a total of 2,946 Palestinian terrorist attacks, 9 less than 2006, including a single suicide bombing in Eilat and another three that were intercepted in time.
No let-up is expected next year. In 2007, Hamas smuggled into Gaza more than 80 tons of explosives for use in the fabrication of missiles and bombs, including roadside devices laid down against an Israeli military incursion. Al Qaeda and its Palestinian affiliates recently stepped up their participation in attacks, more conspicuously since Fatah al Islam set up operations in Gaza after being thrown out of its northern haven in Lebanon four months ago. Israeli officials said that Osama bin Laden’s threat to “liberate every inch of Palestine” is being taken seriously.
The Shin Bet reports that hundreds of Hamas operatives were smuggled through the Sinai tunnels out to Iran and Syria and back for special 2-6 month courses at facilities near Tehran and Damascus in commando combat and the manufacture and launching of missiles. Among them were officers and naval commandos.
The Shin Bet report notes that Hamas’ smuggling projects spread out from Gaza to the West Bank, where a new terror machine is taking shape. Local terrorist elements are being taught to manufacture and use Qassam missiles and high-trajectory weapons, thereby bringing Israel’s central coastal cities, including Tel Aviv, within range. Scores of West Bank Hamas activitists were also sent to Iran and Syria to study missile manufacture.
During most of 2007, Iran’s Lebanese surrogate, Hizballah, funded the West Bank project at the rate of the equivalent of $10 million per month. The transfers slowed in recent months. The Shin Bet reports that Hizballah is diverting more funds to building its own substantial new infrastructures in South Lebanon and north of the Litani River.

-- August 22, 2008 1:02 PM


Anonymous wrote:

All,

I found this old article interesting in how the USA/CIA are using the same tactics that Iran has been using against our militaries.

Ethnic Arab Intifada Targets Richest Iranian Oil Resource

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report from Iran

June 14, 2005

On the march against the Tehran regime since April, the ethnic Arab rebels of Iran’s southwest province of Khuzestan have for the first time struck an Iranian oil target. This attack, revealed here by DEBKAfile’s Exclusive Iranian sources, took place Wednesday, June 8. The guerrillas struck the new petrochemical installations of the Karoun Oil and Gas Production’s drilling and well services, east of the provincial capital of Ahwaz.

Saturday night, June 11, President Mohammed Khatami flew in to the restive region which supplies 80% of Iran’s oil output to assess the damage.

Four hours after he returned to Tehran, Arab guerrillas detonated four bombs in Ahwaz – one at least by a suicide bomber - against the Iranian planning ministry near the governor’s seat, the central post office, the housing ministry and the home of the Tehran-appointed director of the local television station. At least eight people were killed, up to 35 injured

Later Sunday, June 12, a busy Tehran square was the scene of another bombing attack, the first the Iranian capital had experienced in a decade. One person was killed, according to the Iranian interior ministry.

The Khuzestan Arab guerrillas, calling their movement Nahda (Renaissance), hit the two Iranians cities five days before the June 17 presidential election. They brought to a climax bombing attacks for weeks against trains, banks and government buildings - and most recently nightly shooting attacks on the Ahwaz campaign offices of presidential candidates Hashemi Rafshanjani and former Revolutionary Guards commander Mohsein Rezai. Nahda appears to represent a coalition of Khuzestan’s at least eight anti-government groups.

About two weeks ago, Iranian security arrested thousands of Arab community leaders in Khuzestan, releasing them later against bonds running into hundreds of thousands of dollars against their abstinence from anti-government activities. A second round of mass arrests took place Sunday. Khuzestani Internet links were also cut.

The ethnic Arabs of Khuzestan, some 3% of Iran’s 67 million inhabitants, are now threatening to boycott next Thursday’s election. This organized protest by the 2 million Shiite Arab inhabitants of Iran’s most abundant oil center would be a severe blow for the Islamic regime.

Teheran has accused US and British intelligence of engineering Arab unrest in Khuzestan from across the border in Iraq. Iraq Kurds are also believed to be assisting the rebels. The Iranians countered two weeks ago by halting all Iranian pilgrimage to Iraqi Shiite shrines, virtually shutting their borders with Iraq. Iranian Arabs, mostly Shiites, had been making regular pilgrimages to Najef and Karbala in the last two years. Officials in Tehran accused US and Iraqi intelligence of recruiting these pilgrims and sending them back home trained for anti-government guerrilla action.

On April 22, DEBKA-Net-Weekly 203 lead article explored the Khuzestan Arab Spring offensive. On May 6, DNW 204 revealed that April 23, the Khuzestan Front’s No. 2 leader Said Taher Naamahad paid a secret visit to the White House.

-- August 22, 2008 1:13 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another interesting article that is old. I thought it might be of interest to you too.

US and France Vie for Iraq`s Shiites
From DEBKAfile War Diary - Day 28 of Iraq War, April 16, 2003
April 17, 2003

In the heat of war, General Tommy Franks played out his thesis that speed kills the enemy. A more nuanced formula may govern America’s international strategy beyond Iraq. This formula was revealed by Jim Hoagland, Washington Post columnist, on April 13, as having been proposed by Condoleezza Rice, national security adviser to President George W. Bush:
Punish France, ignore Germany, forgive Russia.
Anxious to avoid punishment, French president Jacques Chirac urged his Russian and German colleagues at their St. Petersburg summit this week to start dismantling their anti-American front. If this was meant seriously, Hoagland advised the French president “to pick up the phone at the Elysee and call Bush now.”
The Washington Post’s readers at the Elysee waited three days to take this advice. On Tuesday, April 15, Chirac initiated his first phone conversation in two months with President Bush.
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer cautiously described the conversation as positive. He said the two presidents had agreed that Syria must not grant asylum to Iraqi leaders. This was a direct reaction to the exclusive report run by DEBKAfile six hour prior to their conversation, revealing the French president’s approval for transferring a group of Iraqi officials and military leaders from Syria to France.
Fleischer did not quote the two presidents as agreeing that France would not “grant asylum to Iraqi leaders”. Indeed, Chirac turned out to be saying one thing and doing another. According to DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources in the Persian Gulf, the telephone call notwithstanding, the French pressed ahead with their anti-American front, building it across the Arab world, through Iran and inside Iraq. As they spoke, Saddam’s foreign minister Naji Ali Sabri was on a plane bound for Paris - and he was not alone.
DEBKAfile’s sources have learned that the Iraqi nuclear scientist Jafer Jafer told his US captors that he too had been bound for Paris for the promised political asylum. But he made the mistake of picking the wrong escape route. To avoid the gridlock set up in Damascus by the teeming high-ranking fugitives from Baghdad, he headed out through Jordan, was recognized in Amman and handed over to the Americans.
France’s anti-American program had several more tentacles. As American officials addressed the first meeting of Iraqi opposition and factional leaders at Abraham’s reputed birthplace of Ur near Nasiriyah, French diplomats and intelligence officers landed in Tehran for a day of meetings with Mohamad Bakr Al Hakim, head of the Iran-backed Supreme Assembly for Islamic Revolution in Iraq – SAIRI, who for that reason boycotted the US-sponsored parley. The French visitors were there to persuade the cleric to instruct his followers in Baghdad, Najef, Karbala and Basra to join in founding an anti-American coalition of forces in Iraq.
Aware of what the French were up to, Washington arranged for the Kurdish PUK leader Jalal Talabani, a close friend of the Shiite cleric and Iranian leaders, to reach Teheran at the same time as the French contingent. His task was to make sure Al Hakim was not caught up in French toils. They are still talking.
Wooed at every hand, 20,000 Iraqi Shiites staged a vocal protest rally in Nasiriyah to shake their fists against the American-sponsored Iraqi opposition leaders and shout “America will not decide for us but the Hawza!” (religious medressa).
This surge of activity on Tuesday, April 15 was Act One of the confrontational contest being fought among the United States, Iran, Syria, Iraqi faction leaders and the Lebanese Hizballah for control over Iraq’s largest group, 12 million Shiites.
None of the contestants can afford to lose.
For America , defeat would mean losing post-Saddam Iraq, meaning that after winning the war against the Saddam regime, the US would lose the country.
For France , defeat would mean bankruptcy for its anti-war campaign against Washington, carrying the punishment advised by Rice: the push from valuable and lucrative positions in the Muslim and Arab world. “
It is worth recalling that Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini charted his 1979 Islamic Revolution against the pro-American Shah of Iran from a place of asylum near Paris, after fleeing from Najef, his first place of exile from Iran. Then as now, French leaders placed friendship for the Shiites ahead of ties with the United States.
For Iran , being done down over Iraq would bear the heaviest price of all. It may lose its religious, political and military primacy of the world Shiite movement. If the large Iraqi Shiite community turns to America, then the holy city of Najef, the sect’s Jerusalem or Mecca, will usurp the Iranian holy city of Qom as the Shiite’s spiritual capital and challenge Khomeini’s Islamic revolution.
For Syria , forfeiting influence in the Iraqi Shiite leadership would loosen the grip it maintains on Lebanon through the powerful Shiite terrorist group, the Hizballah. The loss of Lebanon could precipitate the fall of Beshar Assad’s presidency of Syria, which has been seriously shaken already by the crash of his foremost ally Saddam Hussein. Assad had hoped that harboring hundreds of high-ranking Iraqi fugitives would give him an ace to play with in the contest for a foothold in post-war Iraq. This ace is rapidly becoming a grave liability.
Assad’s blunder was not lost on Lebanese prime minister, Rafiq Hariri, who hurried over to the presidential palace in Beirut on Tuesday, April 15, and laid his resignation before president Emil Lahoud. Sensing the fur was about to fly in Syria or Lebanon, Hariri took care to move out of harm’s war in good time.
These aggressively vying interests have transformed the contest for the hearts of Iraqi Shiites into the key to the domination of Iraq as a whole. Until now, the contest has been fought largely under cover, but the war’s tactics promise to become increasingly overt and belligerent.
The Americans still have the military option of striking targets in Syria or the Lebanese Hizballah, thereby eliminating Syria and the Hizballah from the Iraqi Shiite equation. Destroying the Hizballah would also inflict a blow to the Islamic suicide terror movement. On the cards too is a clash of wills among Iraqi Shiite clerical leaders. Washington would then watch to see which candidate exhibited the most effective survival skills.
Chief of Saddam’s Palestinian Terror Arm Caught

Mahmoud al Abbas, who embodies a hidden chapter in Yasser Arafat’s career as terror mastermind, was captured in Iraq by American troops in a hideout near Baghdad.
He was turned back from the Syrian border after the Damascus authorities had let most of the Iraqi leadership through.
Abu al Abbas became internationally notorious after he hijacked the Italian Achille Lauro cruise-ship in 1985 on Arafat’s orders, shooting a disabled American Jewish passenger, Leon Klinghoffer, and throwing him overboard. A life sentence is outstanding against him in Italy. The Palestinian Liberation Front, the PLF, which he heads, is officially designated by Washington a terrorist organization. In Israel, he is best known for a thirty-year old terrorist atrocity in Nahariya, when he personally murdered members of a family, of which only the mother, Yael Haran, survived.
DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources add: Abul Abbas’s PLF operated out of Baghdad as Iraqi military intelligence’s operational arm for anti-Israel terror in close liaison with Yasser Arafat’s right hand Tawfiq Tirawi, the commander of the Fatah’s al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades. A PFL Palestinian cell trained in Iraq kidnapped and murdered 16-year old Yuri Goshchin in Jerusalem in July 2001.
Counter-terror experts say interrogation of Abbas will for the first time provide solid evidence of Arafat’s hand in terrorist activities in the past and the direct link between his terror campaign and the Saddam regime. An American spokesman said the capture of Abbas is a message to all terrorists that they have nowhere to hide.
Abu al Abbas was captured by US special operations forces together with other suspects, weapons including rocket-propelled grenades, Yemeni and Lebanese passports and other documents.

-- August 22, 2008 1:39 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

The article before this one is from me. It is not anonymous. The article is on USA tactics related to Iran.

-- August 22, 2008 1:42 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

The below article was taken from Russia Today. I think it is of some interest as it concerns ship movements of USA in Black Sea area and Ukraine.


AFP Photo / Yuri KadobnovAugust 19, 2008, 10:18
Russia needs no instructions on Black Sea Fleet - Medvedev
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has stated Russia’s Black Sea Fleet will be under special state control and that Russia needs no instructions from Ukraine or any other country on how to behave in the area. The statement comes following Ukrainian efforts to regain control over the movements of Russian warships in the Black Sea.
"The Black Sea will be in the zone of our special control. We do not need instructions on how to behave," Medvedev said in Vladikavkaz on Monday.

As far as the situation around the Black Sea is concerned, it will "strictly comply with the international agreements and the decrees signed by myself as the supreme commander-in-chief," he said.

"Unqualified interference will not result in anything good," he said.

On August 13 the Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko expressed his intention of implementing two recommendations made by the National Security and Defence Council regarding the movement of the Russian Black Sea Fleet outside its base in the Crimea.

According to the decisions, warships or planes may only cross Ukraine's state border after at least a 72-hour prior notice to the Ukrainian General Staff. Such a notice should also contain information about arms, ammunition and explosives and military equipment.

Yushchenko had earlier described the use of Russian Black Sea Fleet ships in military operations in the Black Sea area as a dangerous precedent.

On August 10 Ukraine warned Russia against the possible participation of the Black Sea Fleet in the conflict in South Ossetia. The Russian Foreign Ministry in response expressed surprise over the tone and content of the statement. It said in its comments that the measures which Ukraine had threatened to take would not be consistent with Russian-Ukrainian agreements and would be unfriendly towards Russia.

Meanwhile, acting chairman of the Ukrainian National Security and Defence Council Valentin Nalivaichenko has called for the creation of an international commission for assessing the Black Sea Fleet's actions in Georgia and help work out a mechanism of control over its operations.

He also called for hiring international experts to work in the sub-commission on the Black Sea Fleet within the international Ukraine-Russia commission.

He believes it's necessary to investigate all cases when the Black Sea Fleet puts to sea to find out if this is consistent with Ukrainian legislation and international agreements.

Meanwhile, Anatoly Nogovitsyn of Russian General Staff says the United States, Canada and Poland are planning to introduce their warships into the Black Sea by the end of August.

"As far as we know, U.S., Canadian and Polish naval forces are planning to introduce their warships into the Black Sea by the end of August," Nogovitsyn told a news conference on Tuesday.

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I hope Russia does not decide to go after Ukraine militarily.

-- August 22, 2008 2:10 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

An article from Italian News.


Afghanistan: Italian soldiers injured north of Kabul

Kabul, 22 August (AKI) - Three Italian soldiers were injured in an explosion that struck their military patrol about 20 kilometres north of the capital, Kabul, on Friday.

The soldiers - all from the north of Italy - were not seriously injured in the attack which occurred while there were clearing mines in the rural region.

There are 2,350 Italian soldiers in Afghanistan as part of the NATO multinational force and are divided between Kabul and the western province of Herat.

Meanwhile, US-led troops attacked a compound where Taliban leaders were meeting in western Afghanistan, killing 30 militants, US and Afghan officials said on Friday.

The attack took place in the Shindand district of western Herat province and NATO troops found large caches of weapons and ammunition.

It has been a bloody week for the foreign troops - 10 French soldiers were killed in a battle with Taliban militants this week and three Polish and three Canadian soldiers were killed in separate bomb blasts on Thursday.

There are almost 53,000 troops in Afghanisan as part of NATO's International Security Assistance Force.

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Notice, this activity by the terrorist is near the USA air base of Herat.

-- August 22, 2008 2:25 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Pakistan. Maybe Pakistan will finally allow the USA to go in and clean up these terrorists in the north east mountain areas that Pakistan has prevented the USA from entering. One would hope so!!

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Security

Pakistan: Nationwide security alert after new Taliban threats

Islamabad, 22 August(AKI) - Pakistan was on high alert on Friday after the Taliban threatened to carry out more terrorist attacks across the country.

The Interior Ministry has ordered tighter security measures in the country's four provinces following an ominous statement from the leader of Tehrik-i-Taliban, Baitullah Mehsud, that the group was planning more suicide attacks.

Two suicide bombers killed 70 people and injured at least 80 others when they blew themselves up on Thursday outside the Pakistan Ordinance Factory in the high security town of Wah, near Islamabad.

It was described as the deadliest attack on a military installation in the country's history.

Interior Ministry sources said on Friday that six suicide bombers from Baitullah Mehsud's group had entered different parts of the country to carry out more terrorist acts in protest against military action in the Bajaur Agency in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas bordering Afghanistan.

"We carried out this attack and soon similar blasts will happen all across the world if the military operations do not stop in the Swat Valley and Bajaur,” spokesperson for Pakistan's Tehrik-i-Taliban, Moulvi Omar, said in a statement issued to the national media on Thursday.

Pakistani Taliban leaders had threatened earlier this month to carry out suicide attacks in major cities, including Karachi and Islamabad, unless the military stopped its offensive against militants.

Tehreek's spokesman, Maulvi Umer told Geo News from an undisclosed location that suicide attackers have been sent in different cities including Islamabad, Multan, Lahore and Karachi to target military installations there.

He said the Wah suicide blasts were carried out in reaction to the actions against Taliban in Bajaur Agency, the Swat Valley in the North West Frontier Province and other areas.

The ministry has directed all four provincial governments and police to strengthen their security and monitoring arrangements.

Meanwhile, at least 11 people were killed and 15 others were injured when security forces attacked suspected militant hideouts in Bajaur Agency on Thursday. More than 250,000 people have been displaced by the ongoing conflict.

-- August 22, 2008 2:33 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Two economically: the deletion of zeroes from the dinar does not affect the Iraqi economy

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 22 / 08 / 2008 at 13:23:53

Two experts on the economics revealed that the deletion of zeroes from the Iraqi dinar did not have a major impact on economic transactions in Iraq, an economic researcher with the view that such a measure if it was really, would not "be crucial variable in monetary or financial mechanism" in the country.

The economic expert Smism peace of the Jordanian capital Amman for the Independent News Agency (Voices of Iraq) that "delete zeroes from the Iraqi dinar is not a purely operational process greatly affects the Iraqi economy, a phenomenon that simulates the illusion cash and do not constitute a real phenomenon."

Smism She added that "the real value of the monetary unit in general and in particular the dinar is the quantity of goods and services that can be obtained at the time did not reflect the monetary value reflected the number before any signs of the true value of the monetary unit."

She explained, "From that standpoint, the process of lifting the zeroes kept or not a thing or pursuant to the extent economically influential psychological impact on the language of economic circulation of the currency."

Smism adds that "the process of improving the value of a currency is not abstract, but are measures economic performance, which improves the economic base of the country and reflected its impact on external balances it (the trade balance, current account balance of payments)."

Winding academic researcher and peace Smism the best alternatives for the project to delete zeroes, indicating that "based on many international experience, it should improve economic performance through the establishment of a comprehensive renaissance in the sectors of the Iraqi national income to develop a positive performance in the real value of income and no monetary value."

She adds, "as it should be noted that it is necessary to diversify sources of income and not to submit to the adoption of a single source of oil and a major financier of the economy to become Iraq's economy and the policy of wind blown oil market and Captiousness dollar and oil and then the final onus is on the Iraqi dinar."

However, "in Khmsenja last century, agriculture was the intervention in financing and supplementing the Iraqi economy and oil revenues were doing this in addition to a modest contribution to the industry, but now the situation with great regret, deteriorating economy and Reclining entirely on the economics of oil, you can see what happens from floundering and chaos Economic. "

The economic expert Kazem Habib spoke to (Voices of Iraq) from Berlin, saying that "the process of deleting zeroes from the Iraqi dinar did not change much of a difference, with the exception of reducing the large quantities of banknotes in circulation in the market, which is supposed to carry rights in the process of exchange" .

Habib added that "the problem does not lie in the zeroes, but lies in the relationship between fiscal and monetary policy to economic policy of Iraq and the disruption of the Iraqi economy and the fragility of the economic, security and political concern felt by people on the Iraqi dinar, especially after long suffering undergone by Iraq and the deterioration of the currency Iraqi and very high rates of inflation. "

He explained that "a strategy for economic development and human resources effectively allow the use of financial resources from the economy of crude oil and capital accumulation, who sings the national wealth is the guarantor of factors to promote the Iraqi dinar."

He continued: "The policy of manufacturing effective and harmonious with the possibilities and needs of the country and modernizing agriculture will contribute to strengthening national force Iraqi dinar."

The economic researcher Munther Ahmed, had a different point of view of two economists and Smism Habib, and he told (Voices of Iraq) that "the process of deleting zeroes from the Iraqi dinar since what was really would not be fundamentally changing the mechanism of monetary, financial," noting that it would be a factor Psychologically, can lead a positive role in promoting the status of Iraqi dinar and, consequently, economic transactions, combined with sound policies and concerted action among the financial, monetary and addressing other general in charge of economic development.

However, he warned of "consequences of falling pitfalls of betting on things utopian and mechanisms of propaganda miserable, speculators exploited the game and the results are not only disappointing but played a sabotage of the entire economic performance."

He continued, Ahmed said "we should proceed package procedures, reasonable process that is the deletion of one of its manifestations zeroes; However, it must adopt a plan to re-motivate the productive process and economic whole, in various agricultural sectors, industrial and service issues and deliberative, banking and investment, thereby promoting each other in an awakening Each building reservoirs and canals players. "

Arabic..
Two economically: the deletion of zeroes from the dinar does not affect the Iraqi economy

BAGHDAD - Iraq votes 22 / 08 / 2008 at 13:23:53

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=www.aswataliraq.info&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

-- August 22, 2008 4:03 PM


Sara wrote:

Rob N, you posted:
All:

Iraqi Figures Back U.S. View on Low Spending for Reconstruction

Internal budget figures provided for the first time by the Iraqi government suggest that it has spent as little as 18 percent of the money it has devoted to rebuilding the country this year, roughly in line with previous estimates by American oversight agencies, but far below the amount cited by the Iraqi government itself.

==end quote===

I believe a BIG reason they are not spending that money.. only 18%.. is because their money is not revalued. They would have to spend a LOT of it to buy ANYTHING outside of the country. And, I think they also are thinking they must RV sometime. If you have a Dinar worth less than a penny.. then buying goods from outside of the country with that Dinar is going to buy you very, very little. BUT, if you RV the currency at over that one cent mark.. even up to the 1:1 with the USD many on other Dinar sites speak of.. then you have a LOT of buying power for getting in imported goods to reconstruct or whatever else you wish to do.

I believe it is not so much corruption that makes them spend only 18% of their available funds. I believe they are cheap! LOL They want the best buy for their Dinars and this is why they are waiting to see the RV happen before they actually use their own Dinar money to buy things from outside the country. The 18% they have spent is the barest minimum they could get away with which they HAD to spend to keep the wheels of progress moving.. until the RV happens.

I doubt heartily that the Iraqis are unaware of the necessity to RV their currency in order to join the world and have a normal currency. Once it does RV, they can spend on par with the world economy and not literally POUR their worthless Dinars out of the country to buy goods to reconstruct. Remember, Iraq hasn't got a lot of resources itself to do the reconstruction.. almost everything must be bought from outside the country.

So how would you deal with using a Dinar whose worth is less than a penny and buying goods worth in the hundreds of thousands of dollars? (Like buying planes for your airport, for instance?) The amount of Dinars necessary would be astronomical! And if you just hang on and wait.. and everyone gets their acts together.. then you can buy thousands of times more things with the same Dinar note (whether the new Dinar notes they are talking about or the ones we now have). It is just common sense to hold off spending until their currency is worth more money. Why throw gobs and gobs of Dinar money out the window now for imported goods, when later it will cost you comparatively only a few Dinar for the same things?

The reason I think they are waiting to RV the currency is that they wish to be masters of their own destinies first. It is like working for someone else's company or working for your own. You don't work as hard at it if it is not your own.. and the Iraqis think they are working for the US as long as the US is in Iraq. They sensibly and logically reason that once the US guarantees they will leave and puts it in writing, they have their OWN country and then when they do work, it is truly for themselves and not to benefit the US. That is why they asked for a timetable with a tentative withdrawl date which they can be certain will be honored (so long as the conditions on the ground remain stable.. which is likely). So now they have the guarantee of being the masters of their own destinies.. they really should RV.. because otherwise, more and more people will get on the Dinar RV bandwagon as conditions improve and improve and improve.

The article cornishboy posted (thanks for it, cornishboy) was instructive. It says the new Dinar money is just Psychological.. not real in monetary value change. It is not the RV. This is spoken of TWICE in the article.. one of which I will now.
QUOTE:

The economic researcher Munther Ahmed, had a different point of view of two economists and Smism Habib, and he told (Voices of Iraq) that "the process of deleting zeroes from the Iraqi dinar since what was really would not be fundamentally changing the mechanism of monetary, financial," noting that it would be a factor Psychologically, can lead a positive role in promoting the status of Iraqi dinar and, consequently, economic transactions, combined with sound policies and concerted action among the financial, monetary and addressing other general in charge of economic development. However, he warned of "consequences of falling pitfalls of betting on things utopian and mechanisms of propaganda miserable, speculators exploited the game and the results are not only disappointing but played a sabotage of the entire economic performance."

==end quote==

Here you see that Iraq admits it is a phychological ploy, and nothing else. It will not fundamentally alter the mechanism of the money's worth or value on the international exchange scene at all. They wring their hands in the last sentence saying that the "speculators exploited the game" and that concerns them. But the longer they wait, the MORE speculators they will have. They need to cut their losses and RV now before everyone and their dog figure out the "game" and move to "exploit" the Dinar value. We all KNOW they must RV, they have no choice. They now are masters of their own destiny, but if they don't RV soon, the more and more and MORE speculators who buy up the incredibly cheap Dinar will have to be paid out.

The Iraqis making scare tactics that are aimed to shake out the few quaking Dinar holders who are not able to see their idea of a Dinar exchange is a mere psychological fake will not enable them to move on and improve the value of their economy and the value of the Dinar. If they do not RV, they will bleed more and more Dinar.. until when they finally do RV they have no benefit in it. For now, they do have benefit in it because most people don't even see this investment. If the Iraqis make the intelligent move, they will cut their losses and RV soon. It will make them on par with the world in value and make it easier to buy (with their megamillions of Dinars) megamillions of dollars worth of goods. This can only help the Iraqis. The longer they wait.. the more money they lose and the more they impoverish their country's future fortune.

So, Rob N.. in reply to your post about it taking years.. that is only if the Iraqis sit around wringing their hands and don't get into the "game" - thereby letting the speculators increase exponentially and take more and more of Iraq's currency in speculation. My advice to the Iraqis? - The wiser thing now is to RV right away to cut their losses and move on. Any business figures out very quickly when they have a liability which will cause them a loss and they move to cut their losses and move on to greater profits in the future. Recently we saw the Egyptians dealing with the speculation around the Iraqi currency and Iraq here is just lamenting its economic fortune (which it had to do in order to stay afloat while fighting the terrorists and insurgents) and the fact they have to RV and others will profit by it. If the Iraqis continue to delay, the situation will only get worse, not better. They don't have a choice unless they want their country to stagnate, which is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. They will lose far worse if the entire Iraqi enterprise folds because their stubborn pride would not allow any Dinar investors to profit from the RV of the Dinar. All a Dinar investor would lose is a profit taking.. the Iraqis will lose their shirts as their economy goes down the drain from stagnation and inability to move forward or command any strength on the international market. There really is no choice.. to RV is the only logical and reasonable thing to do.

However, if they delay.. we all can buy more for the day they finally realize their backs are against the wall and they must have this economic leg in their country's future plans or go belly up. At that point, however, the losses will be tripled.. or greater. There is no logic or wisdom in delaying and so taking a greater and greater loss. So unless they wish to hand the country to Iran and make their money worthless that way.. (another way to cut off their collective nose or country to spite their face) their only logical way out is to RV and use the economic strength they will gain in the RV to fortify their country's economic progress. They should quit wringing their hands about the "speculators (who) exploited the game".. such speculators have been around since time began, and Iraq, as an extremely old nation, should acknowledge that grown-up historical fact and move on before they have to take a greater loss. Remember, we are nickel and dime speculators, and tiny.. there are "big boys" out there (countries) who will move in to take up the Dinar once they figure this out. And their resources to buy up more Dinar in speculation will be tremendous.. and devastating to the Iraqi economy and future. The longer the Iraqis wait.. the more food, clothing and shelter.. - the more prosperity, they take out of their future children's lives and homes.

Sara.

-- August 22, 2008 5:42 PM


Rob N. wrote:

Sara:

I do not believe in this idea of a "lop". I know it has been discussed here and on other forums at length. Instead, I agree the Iraqi's must address the exchange rate issue.

Whether it is now or later the longer they wait the more detrimental it will be. I am still convinced these articles referring to the removal of three zeros from the currency is nothing more than a psychological ploy to shake out some small time investors.

A limited free float based upon currency reserves, oil and gold I see as the logical method to achieving the "real rate." This change in the rate will begin an Iraqi renaissance that is good for the country and good for investors.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 22, 2008 6:15 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and Rob N.,

I agree with you both about this zero loop thing being a ploy. However, I do not believe that the Iraqi's lack of spending on construction has anything to do with the value of the dinar.

All oil money is spent in USA dollars. Why would the Iraqi's than change their USA dollars to dinars?; and even if they did, the dinars would still be worth the same. The Iraqi's could use the USA dollars (from the oil sales) to buy what they needed for import purposes.

However, in past entries I have made on this blog, why would the Iraqi's need to import anything due to the USA already having the items on their bases?. Remember the base at Balad, where panhandler is located. He states that the military has everything there to reconstruct the country.

Probably, the Iraqi government will need skilled labors and this will need to be paid in real dollars (or currency up with the value of the world trading elites).

That's my two cents worth. What do you all think?.

Laura Parker

The USA taxpayer has already paid for many of the items needed to bring the country up on it's construction. What is needed is skilled laborers, to do the jobs needed in their country. Remember that the system in place was who belonged to the Baath Party and people were paid based on tribal relationship and not necessarily on who is the most qualified to do the job. The issue as I see it is corruption and qualifications. It is not the currency. Iraq has been taking in a great deal of money as gasoline has been at a peak at over $4.00 a gallon for a time. The Iraqi government has the money to spend on reconstruction.

-- August 22, 2008 8:27 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama Sued In Philadelphia Federal Court On Grounds He Is Constitutionally Ineligible For The Presidency
August 22nd, 2008
by Jeff Schreiber - (America’s Right.com)

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit–just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver–for the health of the Democratic Party.

“I filed this action at this time,” Berg stated, “to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.”.

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls “dual loyalties” due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of “multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries” remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, “apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight.” As Sen. Obama’s own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham–Obama’s mother–gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama’s birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals–Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital–in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple “registry of birth” records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a “natural born” citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.

“Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama’s lies and obfuscations,” Berg stated. “If the DNC officers … had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws.”

“It is unfair to the country,” he continued, “for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected.”

UPDATE on Berg v. Obama Lawsuit

11:45pm

I just learned that a hearing has been scheduled on the matter for 2:00pm today. I have no further details at this time, though I know that the hearing is not open to the public.

It should be noted, though, that the judge assigned to the case–the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick–was appointed to the federal bench by President William Jefferson Clinton.

Eligibility Goes Beyond Citizenship

by Jeff Schreiber - (America’s Right.com)

I don’t know if the allegations found in Phillip Berg’s civil action are true. I did not sever Barack Obama’s umbilical cord, I do not know anyone who did, and therefore I cannot know for sure absent more than circumstantial evidence whether or not Stanley Ann Dunham opened wide and gave birth to the Illinois liberal in Kenya, in Hawaii, or elsewhere.

Perhaps we can look into the destination for mass shipments of gold, frankincense and myrrh in early August of 1961. Or perhaps we could just ask Keith Olbermann — I’m sure he has a framed photograph of the blessed event.

What I do know is that, when the United States Constitution was penned mere steps from where Berg’s lawsuit was filed yesterday afternoon, those imperfect but brilliant gentlemen who wrote the fifth clause of Article II, Section 1 established the trio of specific eligibility requirements–citizenship, age and residency–in hopes of increasing the probability that the elected officials who were to assume the presidency in years to come would be of sound mind, of good judgment, and in possession of a soul rooted in an undying love for America.

It was important to those courageous men that the future leaders of their fledgling nation understand what it means to be an American. Every clause in that document is there for a reason, each a lesson learned from fresh wounds of tyranny gone but not forgotten, and the framers made a point to require that, at the very least, a potential president must have been a citizen of the United States “at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution.” Unfettered, undivided devotion and loyalty to America was of the utmost concern; simply put, only those who fought and bled for Her independence, or at the very least understood the meaning behind, need for and potential of this great experiment could be trusted with its charge.

Regardless of whether Barack Obama was born in a hospital in Honolulu or a hut in Kenya, the real question brought forth by Phillip Berg’s civil action, to me, is not one of constitutional eligibility but rather of moral and intellectual and even ideological qualification.

Barack Obama’s actions show a penchant for blaming America first and placing Her needs second. His associations show that no unimaginably awful deed goes unrewarded, that the want for friendship, appeasement and superficial detente overshadows the need for a firm grasp on reality and unapologetic employment of common sense. His aspirations make us believe that we can live our lives blameless for societal and economic ills, and that centuries-old blood feuds can be solved with a handshake and conversation over coffee and a chilled plate of arugula.

John McCain, wrong on so many issues, was 100 percent right on Wednesday when he stated that he never questioned Obama’s patriotism, only his judgment. At a time when the United States faces unprecedented threats from every angle, within and without, at a time when Congressional malfeasance–or, in the case of Pelosi’s House and the energy crisis, nonfeasance–could have disastrous effects for decades to come, sound judgment is of the utmost importance.

For our founding fathers, unflinching patriotism, unassailable public virtue and unflappable judgment were inherent among those who helped to establish the United States of America, whether on the battlefield in Trenton or in Congress in Philadelphia, as those who were citizens “at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” knew why they were there, what America was about, and why She was so desperately needed.

Regardless of whether he was born in Kenya or in Hawaii, regardless of whether his birth certificate is his half-sister’s or his own, or whether he went by the name of Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro, this self-proclaimed “Citizen of the World” has much to learn about what it truly means to be an American.

http://patdollard.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal-court-on-grounds-he-is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-the-presidency/

-- August 22, 2008 8:28 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara and Rob N.,

That last comment was suppose to be in with my comments in writing the item; except I forgot I moved it downward. I was remembering old blogging we did on the Baath Party and corruption in the country. And of course, tribal relations as being more important than qualifications of persons for jobs. Remember?. So the comment is a little out of place-- me thinks. It was meant to be in the flow of the article.

Thanks for understanding.

Laura Parker

-- August 22, 2008 8:34 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Wow Sara,

That was quite a find on that lawsuit challeging Obama's citizenship qualifications to be President of the United States of America. I think it will be interesting to find out the outcome on that lawsuit. Nice going for finding it. Let us know if you find anything else on it.

Thank you for all your entries and information finds.

Laura Parker

-- August 22, 2008 8:54 PM


Sara wrote:

Thank you, Laura.. I found it very interesting though the MSM is studiously ignoring this story, just as they did the Edwards scandal. It begs the question.. is America truly a country of laws, and is the supreme law of the land the Constitution? We will see. Note that the person filing the lawsuit is quote:

... a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA

Here is more:

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Philip J. Berg, Esq. Files Federal Lawsuit Requesting Obama Be Removed as a Candidate as he does not meet the Qualifications for President
Thursday, 21 August 2008 22:09 administrator

For Immediate Release: - 08/21/08

Suit filed 08/21/08, No. 08-cv-4083
Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

1. Is not a naturalized citizen; and/or

2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or

3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg stated: “I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.

There have been numerous questions raised about Obama’s background with no satisfactory answers. The questions that I have addressed include, but are not limited to:

1. Where was Obama born? Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada; or ?

2. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

3. What was the early childhood of Obama in Hawaii; in Kenya; in Indonesia when he was adopted; and later, back to Hawaii?

4. An explanation as to the various names utilized by Obama that include: Barack Hussein Obama; Barry Soetoro; Barry Obama; Barack Dunham; and Barry Dunham.

5. Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

If Obama can prove U.S. citizenship, we still have the issue of muti-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegance to other countries.

Berg continued:

“Eighteen million Democratic Primary voters donated money, volunteered their time and energy, worked very hard and then not only supported Senator Clinton, but voted for her and often recruited other supporters as well. All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because this man lied and cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process and the supporters of their citizen choice for the nomination.

Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Senator Obama's lies and obfuscations. He clearly shows a conscience of guilt by his actions in using the forged birth certificate and the lies he's told to cover his loss of citizenship. We believe he does know, supported this belief by his actions in hiding his secret, in that he failed to regain his citizenship and used documents to further his position as a natural born citizen. We would also show he proclaims himself a Constitutional scholar and lecturer, but did not learn he had no eligibility to become President except by means of lying, obfuscations and deceptions. His very acts proves he knew he was no longer a natural born citizen. We believe he knew he was defrauding the country or else why use the forged birth certificate of his half sister?

Americans lost money, goods and services donated in their support of a candidate who supposedly was a natural born citizen simply because the DNC officers and party leaders looked the other way and did not demand credentials to answer the questions and prove whether or not Senator Obama was a legitimately natural born citizen, even in light of recent information that has surfaced on websites on the Internet suggesting Senator Obama may not be eligible to become President and questioning his status of multiple citizenships and questionable loyalties! If the DNC officers and.or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship through an oath of allegiance at age eighteen [18] as prescribed by Constitutional laws!

The injunctrive relief must be granted because failing to do so, this inaction defrauds everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary for a nominee that is a fair representation of the voters. Failure to grant injunctive relief would allow a corrupted, fraudulent nomination process to continue. It not only allows, but promotes an overwhelming degree of disrespect and creates such a lack of confidence in voters of the primary process itself, so that it would cement a prevailing belief that no potential candidate has to obey the laws of this country, respect our election process, follow the Constitution, or even suffer any consequence for lying and defrauding voters to get onto the ballot when they have no chance of serving if they fraudulently manage to get elected! It is unfair to the country for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of their ability to serve if elected.

All judges are lawyers and held to a higher standard of practice than a regular lawyer. It is this Judicial standard that demands injunctive relief prayed for here. This relief is predicated upon one of the most basic premises of practicing law which states no lawyer can allow themselves to be used in furthering a criminal enterprise. And by that gauge alone, failing to give injunctive relief to the 18 million supporters of the other candidate, a true natural born citizen eligible to serve if elected, this court must not allow itself to be used to further the criminal and fraudulent acts to continue and be rewarded by becoming the Democratic Nominee. Failure to give the injunctive relief prayed for will insure that a corrupted Presidential election process will only guarantee a show of unfair preference of one group of people over another group by not demanding the same rules be applied to all groups equally and fairly, especially in light of the fact that both candidates are each considered a minority.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire
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http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-philip-j-berg-esq-files-federal-lawsuit-requesting-obama-be-removed-as-a-candidate-as-he-does-not-meet-the-qualifications-for-president

-- August 23, 2008 2:43 AM


Sara wrote:

Rob N - good post, thanks, and I agree.

Laura - Thoughtful answer.. thank you. Hmm.. my thoughts.

In answer to your question, "why would the Iraqi's need to import anything due to the USA already having the items on their bases?"

Although there is a lot on the bases for reconstruction, such as the one in Balad, that is not the same as oil field equipment and expertise to get their primary industry up and running. I presume the US military does not need to have the expertise to do seizmic, interpret the results and drill for oil with oil field equipment - that generally isn't their job. Though they could get into that business.. isn't it better to hire the fellows who do this kind of thing all the time, successfully? And the problem with the Russians and Chinese is that they are woefully inadequate at the art of interpreting the data and drilling in a way which preserves the oil formations. Also, finding those who know how to run or deal with any of the myriad of technological advancements in this field which are specialized to the oil industry takes time and expertise. It isn't just hiring grunts to move a heavy piece of metal or two. And that means hiring OUTSIDE expertise with cold, hard currency. It isn't cheap if the Iraqis want a good job done of their key industry - an industry which they rely on for almost all their revenue. Indeed, it will take a lot of money.. USD or Dinar, and this simply is not already addressed by the US bases or their areas of expertise and items on their bases.

You also said, "All oil money is spent in USA dollars. Why would the Iraqi's than change their USA dollars to dinars? and even if they did, the dinars would still be worth the same. The Iraqi's could use the USA dollars (from the oil sales) to buy what they needed for import purposes."

It may be that the Iraqis are paid in US funds, but their budget is not denoted in USD, nor is USD the currency of Iraq. I presume then that they wish to continue to use the Dinar as their currency and not become a satellite state of the US using only USD? As such.. since their budget is given in Dinar and not in USD, I think they are trying to use their own currency, the Dinar, for buying these services and goods. Perhaps you are correct that they are using USD for everything, concerning every oil transaction, as you say. But if that is the case, I would think they wish independence and to have that independence they want, they need to Revalue.. or forever be using USD for every transaction, like a state within the United States does. I know that Saudi Arabia tends to have its revenues held in Saudi currency, not in USD, as does Kuwait in its currency - though both countries likely sell their oil based on USD. I cannot but think that Iraq is the same - and wishes to use its own currency. Kind of hard to do when it is worth less than a US penny, however.. at least until they Revalue it. So perhaps this will resolve their need to be independent and use their own money supply, by revaluing.

Sooo.. what do you think is the reason they have spent only 18% of their budget as we head into the final third of the year? Two-thirds of the year is over.. and they haven't yet spent a quarter of their budget.. why do you think that is?

Sara.

-- August 23, 2008 3:09 AM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara et al,

I have followed with interest, your debate on RV versus zero lopping. In my previous post, I made a response to Pablo's post where he thought that it was in our interest to have a zero lop. If a lop does occur, it does not change the underlying value (in USD, Euros or whatever your fav currency is) of our holding. I am wondering if this is the more likely move. I don't mean to scare monger, but based on the fact that Turkey did it a couple of years ago, and Zimbabwe recently mentioned dropping 6 zeros from their currency. Like you, my preference is for a value whether brought about by a free float or government policy move. I really hope that an RV happens, otherwise all this speculation would have been for nothing.

BritishKnite.

-- August 23, 2008 5:51 AM


Sara wrote:

Perhaps Obama didn't want anyone catching on to the lawsuit and having it grab top billing in the headlines.. so he decided NOW was the time to distract the public/media from that nasty lawsuit and what it may mean?? There is a certain desperation in the timing of it..

==

In the dead of night, Obama announces VP choice
August 23, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

I’m not sure a political campaign could possibly screw up a running-mate announcement as badly as Team Obama. The e-mail message that the world awaited for days finally came — at 4:50 am ET. As widely known late the evening before, Barack Obama picked Joe Biden to be his VP nominee, but apparently he didn’t want too many people to know it.
QUOTE:

Ed –

I have some important news that I want to make official.

I’ve chosen Joe Biden to be my running mate.

Joe and I will appear for the first time as running mates this afternoon in Springfield, Illinois — the same place this campaign began more than 19 months ago.

==end quote==

Let’s emphasize the timing of this announcement. Supposedly, Team Obama planned to release this when all the hip kids would have their cell phones at the ready and Blackberries in operation. At least, that was the excuse we heard when Wednesday, Thursday, and then Friday slipped away and Obama hadn’t made his announcement.

So when did the Magic Text Message come? After last call in every time zone in the lower 48.

The people in Hawaii were awake, though.

Of course, picking Joe Biden would be a fairly good reason to bury the news. Biden has a long history of really foolish statements, and managed to set a record for kneecapping a campaign through a verbal fumble. On the day Biden launched his own presidential campaign, he made this reference to his new partner:

“I mean, you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a story-book, man,” Biden said.

Joe Biden also pushed the surge a little after John McCain publicly called for it, which conflicts with Barack Obama’s obstinate refusal to acknowledge it worked. However, Biden also called for the US to impose an ethnic partition in Iraq over the objections of the Iraqis themselves — a position he maintained during the entirety of his presidential campaign. The Biden Plan would have meant a real civil war in Iraq, and probably a genocide, as anyone who has studied the history of partitions would know.

Democrats want Biden because they want an attack dog, since Obama supposedly is too nice to fight back — despite spending the summer smearing John McCain as a racist. As I noted earlier this week, Biden told serial lies on the campaign trail in 1987 about his background and education, rudely dismissed a voter by telling him that he (Biden) had a “bigger IQ”, and most notoriously plagiarized a speech from British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock. All of this will come out in this election.

But in the end, one has to wonder how Hope and Change and “cleaning up Washington” fits with selecting a running mate who’s been there longer than John McCain. More than half of Biden’s 66 years have been spent in the Senate; he took office during the Nixon Administration. All of those ads about how John McCain was responsible for the state of the nation because he’d been in office for over 25 years now apply equally to Barack Obama’s running mate. Why not pick a governor like Bill Richardson, who had plenty of foreign-policy experience, or even Kathleen Sebelius, who may have bridged the gap between himself and most of the women angry with Hillary Clinton’s defeat?

If Obama needs Biden as a sherpa, then maybe he shouldn’t have been running for President in the first place. That kind of admission maybe suits the timing of this announcement, too.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/in-the-dead-of-night-obama-announces-vp-choice/

-- August 23, 2008 11:25 AM


Sara wrote:

You really MUST watch this new Ad.
It's perfect.

==

New McCain Ad: “Biden”
August 23, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

While most of the country was asleep, one man was ready to take that 3 am text message … John McCain. At 6:06 am ET this morning, Team McCain sent out its newest television spot, welcoming Joe Biden to the race — and reminding voters what Biden thought about Barack Obama just a few months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8

==

ANNCR: What does Barack Obama’s running mate say about Barack Obama?

ABC’S GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You were asked, “Is he ready?” You said, “I think he can be ready but right now, I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”

JOE BIDEN: I think that I stand by the statement.

ANNCR: And what does he say about John McCain?

BIDEN: I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off.

The latter quote comes from The Daily Show and answers a Jon Stewart question in 2005. Stewart pressed Biden, who confirmed that he would have felt comfortable as McCain’s running mate.

The McCain campaign probably can’t believe their luck in Obama’s selection. It’s a target-rich environment full of gaffes and bad policies.

I wonder what their “Hillary” ad looked like. Maybe we’ll find out after the inauguration.

Update: Andrew Malcolm wonders about Biden’s “attack dog” credentials, too:

The McCain ad (no doubt they had ones prepared for several candidates) is called simply “Biden.” Why?

Because it features Biden himself talking about Obama (you might guess Biden once thought the freshman Illinois senator was not yet ready for primetime) standing right next to Obama, who was looking down his nose wordlessly during a Democratic debate last winter.

And the ad also features Biden talking about McCain; Biden says he’d be honored to run with or against a John McCain. Is it possible the two of them could have an elevated, respectful civil debate over the future of our foreign policy? Can a presidential candidate do that with an opposing vice presidential candidate, who’s supposed to be the attack dog?

Think we’ll be seeing a good deal more of this kind of contrast in the coming weeks?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/new-mccain-ad-biden/

-- August 23, 2008 11:32 AM


Sara wrote:

Britishknite;

You said, correctly, that, "If a lop does occur, it does not change the underlying value of our holding."

So even if they wish to do this, it does not address the crying need to revalue the currency to be worth something over a cent US. It is interesting, though, to note that Iraq has moved recently to cut down on currency speculators,
QUOTE:

In Iraq - the country currently has a closed policy on their currency and only allows 60,000 dinar (about $50 USD) in or out of the country. Iraq also recently stopped foreign banks from buying dinar with dollars directly from the Central Bank of Iraq.

The whole of that article is also worthwhile reading:

==

BBM International Corporation Shares New Advice for Investing in HighRisk Currency

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BB&M International Corporation (www.bbmone.com/index.htm) -- a foreign-licensing (www.bbmone.com/index.htm), consulting company -- recently developed advice for investors regarding the many obstacles in place to effectively make an informed decision on investing in currencies in emerging regions such as Iraq, South America and Africa.

"Our company's main objective is to let the buyer beware that the easiest way is not always the best," said William Burbank, of BB&M International Corporation. "Complying with laws in the country you are investing in is of primary importance in the investment process."

Burbank says that investing in exotic foreign currency is risky business. However, if it is done correctly, the payoff is more like winning a lottery than a securities investment.

"The track record of winners to losers is not that impressive," Burbank said. "Many unstable countries change their currency every few years to help control runaway inflation and often to curb corruption. The African country Ghana just looped off three zeros in their currency. This was done more to help control the rampant illegal diamond business in that country than to help inflation. There was an estimated 25 percent of the currency in criminal hands outside the country's banking system. The turn-in period was short -- only 60 days -- and the customer turning in old currency had to have an existing bank account."

He said there have been three very notable winners in the past few decades.

One is the Russian ruble, said Burbank. The ruble was not on the international market until the late 1980s. There were many speculators in neighboring areas like the Baltic States, Finland and Northern Europe. These people could buy a ruble for less than a penny -- usually about 10 rubles to the penny -- but the market was totally outside the banking system and it was not legal under Russian law to move rubles in or out of the country. To invest legally in the currency was very difficult, but was successfully done by one private Forex investment company called Saxo Forex in their Midas Forex fund. The difference between a private and public Forex fund is that a public one must be registered and regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and can publicly advertise. The private Forex is just like most hedge funds and is self-regulated. The Saxo Corporation had to move their company to Estonia where it was legal to open a Russian bank account. At that time, it was illegal for a U.S. or European citizen to open a Russian bank account.

"When the ruble became an international currency, the first thing the Russian government did was print new currency and give only 90 days to turn in old currency to convert to new currency," Burbank said. "They also put a temporary freeze on new bank accounts being opened during the turn-in period. This left all the tens of millions of rubles outside Russia as worthless. A successful investor made several thousand percent in just the first year."

The next case was the Kuwaiti currency, Burbank said. It had a fourth and fifth printing after the first Gulf War and skyrocketed several thousand percentage points from a few pennies to more than $3 per dinar. This proved very difficult due to the fact a bank account in Kuwaiti dinar was needed to benefit from the currency's rise. Very few U.S. citizens actually made money on this investment. Those who did realize success had to have bank accounts United Arab Emirates (UAE) where banks offered CDs in the Kuwaiti dinar, or with other Arab nations that offered the same service.

The third winner is the Mexican peso, he said. Most people do not know that the peso went out of U.S. banks when they first printed the new peso -- minus three extra zeros -- in the late 80s. This is the only case where the currency was not reprinted and went up in value over the next five years, and was eventually allowed to be traded internationally in the same form.

"Today investors are interested in the Chinese yuan, the Vietnamese dong and the Iraqi dinar to name a few," Burbank said. "The lesson learned is to make sure you comply with the issuing countries' laws on their currency and business."

For example, in Iraq - where BB&M International Corporation is the only licensing/Forex company currently in operation - the country currently has a closed policy on their currency and only allows 60,000 dinar (about $50 USD) in or out of the country. Iraq also recently stopped foreign banks from buying dinar with dollars directly from the Central Bank of Iraq.

"To safely invest in any of these countries, you need a state-approved business license," Burbank said. "Because we do licensing in Iraq, we do make it easier to do business there, where licensing has gone up dramatically for foreign companies. Often times it is better to wait until the currency actually makes it to the international market before investing or doing business."

For more information, please visit www.bbmone.com/index.htm.

http://www.prnewsnow.com/PR%20News%20Releases/BBM%20International%20Corporation%20Shares%20New%20Advice%20for%20Investing%20in%20HighRisk%20Currency

-- August 23, 2008 11:44 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Experts say removal of zeros from currency doesn't boost economy


PNA -BAGHDAD – A recent proposal to drop three inflation-generated zeros from Iraqi banknotes has sparked heated controversy in Iraqi economic circles, with some experts arguing that the process will not boost the economy or the country's monetary mechanism.
Salam Samisam, an economic expert, told Aswat al-Iraq - Voices of Iraq - (VOI) from the Jordanian capital Amman that dropping zeros from inflated currency is a purely administrative process that will have no influence over the Iraqi economy.
Describing the process as a "monetary illusion," Samisam said that the real value of the currency is determined by the amount of goods and services that can be purchased with a unit of that currency.
"The figures printed on the banknote do not reflect in any way its real value," she explained.
Samisam called on the government to rather adopt effective economic measures, which she said will positively affect the country's balance of trade, the current account and the balance of payment.
Suggesting what she described as better alternatives to the proposal, Samisam said a comprehensive economic renaissance is necessary to improve the real value of income.
A diversification of the sources of income is necessary, Samisam explained, noting that it is important to depend on various sources other than oil to finance the Iraqi economy.
"In the 1950s, agriculture was a main source of finance for the Iraqi economy. Oil also played a role then, with a modest contribution from industry. Now, unfortunately, industry depends mainly on oil economies…," she added.
Kadhem Habib, another economic expert who is currently in Berlin, told VOI that lopping zeros and issuing new Iraqi banknotes will not change much.
"It will just reduce the money in circulation in Iraqi markets," the expert noted.
"The problem is not with the zeros, but with the relationship between the financial and monetary policy, and the Iraqi economic policy," Habib noted, citing the country's economic disequilibrium, the poor economic, security and political conditions as main reasons that added to the problem.
According to Habib, it is important to draw a strategy for an economic and human resources development that makes the best use of oil revenues.
Expressing a different view on the issue, Munthir Ahmed, an economist, said that the removal of three zeros from the right side of the figure on Iraqi banknotes may have a positive psychological effect on money holders, which he said may boost the position of the Iraqi dinar if accompanied by sound policies and coordinated measures.
http://www.peyamner.com/details.aspx?l=4&id=78114

-- August 23, 2008 12:27 PM


cornishboy wrote:

The new silver - made with paper

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Aug 22, 2008
All the bad news in the world about inflation and conflict and a collapsing US financial system might make you wonder why gold and silver prices are not going through the roof. But then there's the paper trail ... (Aug 21, '08)
The new silver - made with paper

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Aug 22, 2008
All the bad news in the world about inflation and conflict and a collapsing US financial system might make you wonder why gold and silver prices are not going through the roof. But then there's the paper trail ... (Aug 21, '08)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_.../JH22Dj01.html

-- August 23, 2008 12:40 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 23, 2008 12:43 PM


Sara wrote:

Cornishboy post says, QUOTE:

Kadhem Habib, another economic expert who is currently in Berlin, told VOI that lopping zeros and issuing new Iraqi banknotes will not change much. "It will just reduce the money in circulation in Iraqi markets," the expert noted."The problem is not with the zeros, but..."

Let's admit it.. Iraq has a problem with their economy. It is not booming like it should be. There are all kinds of people who say how it should be taken care of.. but really, having a worthless currency is not helping matters very much. They also need to put the mechanisms in place to have a thriving economy - like the HCL law and other political deals which have to be made. The POLITICIANS and BANKERS (partners in the RV) are holding up the economy. The revalue would go a long way to addressing the "problem" within the economy.. as buying goods with almost worthless currency does not do much good for the average Iraqi or the Iraqi economy. Even if the government has oil income coming in, it is not getting to the people and the people do not have good jobs. To create those jobs, Iraq needs investment in their economy and that means looking for partners.. and the Iraqi currency should be worth something so it is lucrative for the average Iraqi to do business outside the country and at least be able to equitably import goods to sell from abroad. Otherwise Iraq will remain an isolated island dependent on government handouts (ie - Communism).

Sara.

-- August 23, 2008 12:44 PM


cornishboy wrote:

British Tax Avoidance after RV

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If you are a British tax payer perhaps you might consider the following:

The Inland Revenue will certainly rule that all Capital Gains from the RV are taxable, even if such a ruling is retrospective because this Labour Govt is too short of cash to consider anything else. If you own more than 1m Dinar you might consider cashing in only a small amount this financial year following the RV and then relocate to the Channel Isles or Isle of Man, since there are no Capital Gains taxes in either of these two jurisdictions. Then after April 5th 2009 you can then cash in the balance of your Dinar with no tax liability.

You can also become non-UK domiciled if you have lived abroad for an extended period within the last 7 years or can ligitimately claim strong ties to another country.

These two actions are quite legal, though I do suggest you use one of your 10,000IQD notes to obtain good tax advice from a specialist first.

-- August 23, 2008 12:49 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama's VP pick has not translated into any additional favorable ratings among the public.
Indeed, some seem truly disenchanted (see comments).
QUOTE:

Behind the Numbers
New Data: Impact of Biden

Barack Obama's choice of Joe Biden as his running mate is unlikely to shake-up the presidential horse race. In a new Washington Post-ABC News poll completed last night, three-quarters of voters said picking Biden would not sway their votes one way or the other. And about as many said they would be more apt to support Obama with Biden on the ticket as said the choice would make them less likely to vote Democratic on Election Day (13 to 10 percent).
Those numbers would reflect prior Post-ABC polls showing at most limited topline changes following vice presidential announcements.

More from the new poll will be available Sunday morning.

By Jon Cohen | August 23, 2008

Comments:

1) I'm deeply disappointed at this choice. The candidate for change has chosen the consumate Washington insider as a running mate.....not just any insider, but an old school "do nothing" Democrat, the type who talk a great game but ultimately do very little........This is a sad day for those of us who truly hoped for change...... - Posted by: Shaun

2) Joe, lose cannon, Biden is at best neutral in helping Obama. He is an ultimate insider and about “change” the only change Obama has shown since talking a good game in the primaries is that he can "change" and become a old school very quickly – what a disgrace. - Posted by: Was a Democrat

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2008/08/new_data_impact_of_biden.html?hpid=topnews

-- August 23, 2008 1:02 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

Thank you for responding to my entry concerning the currency and the zero lopping issue. I still find that I do not believe the currency is the issue although doing the three zero lopping would decrease the amount of paper currency in circulation. The Iraqi would not have to take suit cases of cash to buy basic items.

In my former entry, I stated the problems are corruption and finding people who are qualified to do the jobs needed in reconstruction. As Roger noted in his recent entry, he agreed that Iraq needs qualified (skilled) people to do the jobs that are needed in reconstruction. This will require Iraq to look outside it's country to acquire the personnel and finding ways to train it's own people to gain these qualifications.

In the past, the oil minister and the government of Iraq made deals with outside oil companies to pay for their skilled labor in kind with oil. The Iraq government did not need to come up with cash to pay for their services and equipment as we noted in past entries on this blog. So no, Sara, Iraq does not need cash for this venture on the oil industry.

However, I am a bit concerned with Iraq's turning to Soviet Russia with giving them influence over some oil fields and going to their country for consultations. Iraq does need to spend money on defense; i.e., airforce planes, navy ships, equipment, etc. These items will need to paid in cash and Russia could be one of Iraq's military suppliers. This has implications. I have not heard anything on this train of thought, but I have been seeing some trends (what Iraqi people are saying in the news) that have me wondering.

On the corruption issue, one of our recent posts cites Maliki as stating that the problem with funding reconstruction projects is finding people who are trustworthy to use Iraqi funds properly and skilled laborers inside of Iraq. And, I do believe Maliki due to the country's history. Jobs were awarded not on qualifications but on bribes and tribal relationships. It could be awhile before this country is up and running with this lack of competency problem and the corruption issues facing this nation.

Well, these are my thought for now. Anyone else have anything to add?.

Laura Parker

I am wondering what Russia's influence over Iraq is (due to the country's history of socialism politically, relationally, and economically)?. Recent statements from Iraqi politicians (that have concerned me) that have made statements that Iraq does not want to be overly dependent on the USA to compromise its sovereignty.

Consequently, this leaves one to wonder, how much influence with states like Russia, Iran and Syria have in Iraq?. Normally, what people have been use to in the past, they return too(Iraq's history of socialism)- (as this is all they know). Learning a new system is difficult (like capitalism). I am hoping our military intervention in Iraq is not all for not internally.

-- August 23, 2008 2:16 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I found an article on security issues related to Pakistan. Thought you all might to see.

Security
Pakistan: Tribal clashes expose country's leadership vacuum

Karachi, 20 August (AKI) - By Syed Saleem Shahzad - With Pakistan's tribal areas plagued by ongoing conflict, there is growing concern about who will replace former President Pervez Musharraf and contain the country's emerging sectarian strife.

Leaders of Pakistan's ruling coalition have so far failed to reach agreement on a candidate to succeed the former general or the reinstatement of judges sacked under emergency rule in November 2007.

The leadership issue has been overshadowed by clashes in the Bajaur Agency and the Kurram Agency in the tumultuous tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.

But the sectarian strife which first erupted between Sunni and Shia extremists in Pakistan six years ago spread from Kurram to Tuesday's devastating suicide attack in the more settled district of Dera Ismail Khan in the North West Frontier Province.

More than 800 people have been killed in the past three weeks in Kurram and Bajaur and another 250,000 have been displaced by military operations in Bajaur.

As the media flashed images of the homeless amid reports that no Pakistani official had visited the region or offered any assistance, the United States announced a 50,000 dollar emergency aid package.

"We are working alongside the Pakistani and provincial governments to get emergency aid to those in need,” said US Ambassador Anne W. Patterson.

“This assistance from the American people will provide essential items that will help these vulnerable people displaced by the fighting survive until it is safe for them to return to their homes.”

Many have expressed concern that government ministers and senior officials have been focused on who replaces Musharraf.

"This government is failing. Previously they had the excuse of Pervez Musharraf but now they don’t have any reason," Chaudhary Pervaiz Illahi, leader of Pakistan Muslim League- Q, told Adnkronos International (AKI).

"The fact of the matter is that the present coalition is the collection of misfits and incompetents which is unable to address any issue and as a result, foreign countries are coming to the rescue."

Meanwhile, the bomb attack which killed at least 25 people outside at a Shia gathering outside a hospital in Dera Ismail Khan on Tuesday highlighted ongoing tensions between Sunni and Shia Muslims in the area.

The Kurram Agency which borders the Afghan province of Paktia was nearly 50 percent Shia before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979.

After local resistance, thousands of Afghans, who happened to be Sunni, migrated from Paktia province to Kurram.

This migration not only disturbed the balance of population but also brought a hard-line version of Sunni Islam to Pakistan.

After the emergence of the Taliban in Afghanistan, tension between Shia and Sunnis increased and Pakistan's Tehrik-i-Taliban and other groups including the Haqqani network sent militants from different areas and pushed the Shia of Kurram Agency inside Afghanistan.

With the coalition partners due to hold further talks later this week, a Pakistani intelligence agency has formed a delegation including various religious scholars to go to Kurram Agency to try and resolve the conflict this weekend.

-- August 23, 2008 2:31 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara,

If $1 currently equal 1180 NIDs (assumption as not sure what current rate is), then a 3 zero lop on the bank notes means $1 = 1.18 NIDs, or 1 NID = $0.85. That is real money.

cornishboy,

I like the way you assume that an RV will happen during this tax year! ha ha ha! I would love it if it did.

BritishKnite.

-- August 23, 2008 3:02 PM


Sara wrote:

Laura;

As I said in a post before.. your point that, "Iraq does not need cash for this venture on the oil industry" because they, "pay for their skilled labor in kind with oil" does not mean they do not need their Dinar, but can trade in oil exclusively. Even if the Iraqis are getting money from trading in oil and are in that case not using Dinar, that does not mean they are going to set aside the Dinar or that they do not need to use it. Because, as you further noted, "Iraq does need to spend money on defense; i.e., airforce planes, navy ships, equipment, etc. These items will need to paid in cash." So they cannot get along JUST with the oil transactions and not using the Dinar.

I think we can agree that they need a strong currency to buy just such goods from abroad, and services also may have to be paid in cash. Also, trading only in USD (which the commodity oil is denoted in) also is not going to strengthen their country economically or their Dinar currency. They need a Dinar which is worth something on the international market in order to make these trades. I do not believe their long term plan is to trade in barrels of oil and in USD primarily, do you? So they need a valuable currency to do these trades and I think we can agree their currency is not denoted as being very strong or valuable right now, since their money on the currency exchange is worth so little.

However, we all believe that the INTRINSIC worth of the Dinar is more than the nominal amount it trades for at this time - which would be proven by a free float. The Dinar VALUE could be a LOT higher than it is, and we all believe that the currency is artificially low right now. Indeed, acknowledging that the Iraqis are sitting on AT LEAST the third largest oil reserve in the world (if not the first), and that their government is no longer in danger of being overthrown (though there remains some unrest in the country, admittedly) - allows us to verify (at least to our own faculties of reason) that their currency is able to revalue upwards at least in line with the surrounding countries value - due to the improved security conditions and underlying value of their country's assets. That they eventually will have to join the real world in order to trade internationally on a normal scale as any other country does is the "game" currency speculators are engaged in. We Dinarians still see it as a pretty sure "bet."

I also agree with you and am likewise concerned about your statement, quote, "Recent statements from Iraqi politicians (that have concerned me) that have made statements that Iraq does not want to be overly dependent on the USA to compromise its sovereignty."

How deeply they wish to get "in bed" with terrorist/Communist countries such as Russia and Iran in their hellbent fevor to "not be dependent" on a free and sovereign nation (the US) does make you wonder. You become like what you support. As they support dictatorships (Islamic Caliphates) and those suppressive of their own people (Communists), they will move more into their sphere of influence and become more like them. I doubt this curtailing of freedom is truly what the Iraqi people want, so let us hope that they are just flexing their muscles a bit for the crowds to help influence their election and nothing more. And, that the Iraqi people are intelligent enough to throw out of office those who wish to suppress them from positions of authority and elect instead people who value freedom for all Iraqis. For now, the Iraqi people have the ability to choose their own destiny by whom they elect. If they choose radical Islamics or Communist sympathizers at their polls for politicians, they will not retain their freedoms very long. It takes eternal vigilance to retain any true measure of freedom, as the US knows. Being "dependent" on a country who has attained the goal of freedom (though with blemishes and imperfections), is far better than being in bed with dictatorships and suppressive military regimes (Communists like China/Russia, etc).

Sara.

-- August 23, 2008 3:41 PM


Sara wrote:

BritishKnite;

Your calculation that, QUOTE:

1 NID = $0.85

This calculation amount is NOT currency NEUTRAL.
Instead, this is a Revalue, isn't it?
However.. ALL the articles posted say the currency change would be NEUTRAL as concerning the VALUE of the Dinar,
so this calculation is not based on what they are saying, now, is it?

Check my previous post which quotes them saying:
Currency rebasings are monetarily neutral and are introduced to make commercial calculations and cash dealing easier..
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/08/dinar_discussio_4.html#136590

And check out Cornishboy's post which states:
Kadhem Habib, another economic expert who is currently in Berlin, told VOI that lopping zeros and issuing new Iraqi banknotes will not change much. "It will just reduce the money in circulation in Iraqi markets,"
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/08/dinar_discussio_4.html#136681

IF it were to be causing a REVALUE of the currency, this economic expert would not say that issuing new Iraqi banknotes "will not change much" - because making a NID equal to $0.85 cents USD is changing it MUCH!! So the currency rebasing they are discussing is not the RV and will not result in this kind of upward valuation of the Dinar.

This does not mean they do not need to revalue the Dinar, just that this rebasing is not it - instead, they admit it is a "psychological" tactic - likely to cause Dinarians/speculators to throw in the towel thinking that the rebasing IS the revalue and that the RV never happened. THEN, once those people cash out, they think they can RV and not have to pay those investors out, of course. But there will always be speculators in the currency market and they are unlikely to make them ALL cash in with this fake psychological ploy.

Actually, as Iraq improves, I believe that even more and more people will come into the Dinar investment as a viable speculation, which is why they have moved to limit direct buying of the Dinar, as I noted to you today. Quote, "Iraq also recently stopped foreign banks from buying dinar with dollars directly from the Central Bank of Iraq." THAT limits foreign banks - the BIG players - from doing what us little players have been doing. But playing shakeout won't help the fact that someday they do have to address the economic concerns of their country and revalue their currency to meet their own nation's needs - or they will continue to have a crippled economy which stifles capitalism from within the country and prosperity which should be made by the Iraqi people. It will also greatly hamper their ability to buy overseas goods and services, and likely the people will toss them out on their ears for not making the changes necessary to allow them to have their piece of the pie. The Iraqi Communist sympathizers and Caliphate lovers can only oppress their people for so long in a democracy before the people will force a change more favorable to themselves at the voting booth - which is why the Iraqi politicians are trying to delay the election so they can hold onto power as long as they can.

Sara.

-- August 23, 2008 4:16 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I sometimes take in columns that have political commentary to stay informed on issues. I receive this one with a link to a Pat Buchanan commentary. I thought I would share it with you all and see what you all thought of it. Chew it up and spite it out for your comments. I am not sure what to think about this. I think a little research would be in order on some of these claims. Sara, sounds like right up your alley!---Laura

And None Dare Call It Treason.
8/22/08 By: Pat Buchanan

Who is Randy Scheunemann?
He is the principal foreign policy adviser to John McCain and potential successor to Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski as national security adviser to the president of the United States.

But Randy Scheunemann has another identity, another role.

He’s a dual loyalist, a foreign agent whose assignment is to get America committed to spilling the blood of her sons for client regimes who have made this moral mercenary a rich man.

From January 2007 to March 2008, the McCain campaign paid Scheunemann $70,000 -- pocket change compared to the $290,000 his Orion Strategies banked in those same 15 months from the Georgian regime of Mikheil Saakashvili.

What were Mikheil's marching orders to Tbilisi's man in Washington? Get Georgia a NATO war guarantee. Get America committed to fight Russia, if necessary, on behalf of Georgia.

Scheunemann came close to succeeding.

Had he done so, U.S. soldiers and Marines from Idaho and West Virginia would be killing Russians in the Caucasus, and dying to protect Scheunemann's client, who launched this idiotic war the night of Aug. 7. That people like Scheunemann hire themselves out to put American lives on the line for their clients is a classic corruption of American democracy.

U.S. backing for his campaign to retrieve his lost provinces is what Saakashvili paid Scheunemann to produce. But why should Americans fight Russians to force 70,000 South Ossetians back into the custody of a regime they detest? Why not let the South Ossetians decide their own future in free elections?

Not only is the folly of the Bush interventionist policy on display in the Caucasus, so, too, is its manifest incoherence.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates says we have sought for 45 years to stay out of a shooting war with Russia and we are not going to get into one now. President Bush assured us there will be no U.S. military response to the Russian move into Georgia.

That is a recognition of, and a bowing to, reality -- namely, that Russia's control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and occupation of a strip of Georgia cannot be a casus belli for the United States. We may deplore it, but it cannot justify war with Russia.

If that be true, and it transparently is, what are McCain, Barack Obama, Bush, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel doing committing the United States and Germany to bringing Georgia into NATO? For that would commit us to war for a cause we have already conceded, by our paralysis, does not justify a war.

Not only did Scheunemann's two-man lobbying firm receive $730,000 since 2001 to get Georgia a NATO war guarantee, he was paid by Romania and Latvia to do the same. And he succeeded.

Latvia, a tiny Baltic republic annexed by Joseph Stalin in June 1940 during his pact with Adolf Hitler, was set free at the end of the Cold War. Yet hundreds of thousands of Russians had been moved into Latvia by Stalin, and as Riga served as a base of the Baltic Sea fleet, many Russian naval officers retired there.

The children and grandchildren of these Russians are Latvian citizens. They are a cause of constant tension with ethnic Letts and of strife with Moscow, which has assumed the role of protector of Russians left behind in the "near abroad" when the Soviet Union broke apart.

Thanks to the lobbying of Scheunemann and friends, Latvia has been brought into NATO and given a U.S. war guarantee. If Russia intervenes to halt some nasty ethnic violence in Riga, the United States is committed to come in and drive the Russians out.

This is the situation in which the interventionists have placed our country: committed to go to war for countries and causes that do not justify war, against a Russia that is re-emerging as a great power only to find NATO squatting on her doorstep.

Scheunemann's resume as a War Party apparatchik is lengthy. He signed the PNAC (Project for the New American Century) letter to President Clinton urging war on Iraq, four years before 9-11. He signed the PNAC ultimatum to Bush, nine days after 9-11, threatening him with political reprisal if he did not go to war against Iraq. He was executive director of the "Committee for the Liberation of Iraq," a propaganda front for Ahmad Chalabi and his pack of liars who deceived us into war.

Now Scheunemann is the neocon agent in place in McCain's camp.

The neocons got their war with Iraq. They are pushing for war on Iran. And they are now baiting the Russian Bear.

Is this what McCain has on offer? Endless war?

Why would McCain seek foreign policy counsel from the same discredited crowd that has all but destroyed the presidency of George Bush?

"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence ... a free people ought to be constantly awake," Washington warned in his Farewell Address. Our Founding Father was warning against the Randy Scheunemanns among us, agents hired by foreign powers to deceive Americans into fighting their wars. And none dare call it treason.

-- August 23, 2008 4:27 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara,

I read your posts as well as those from cornishboy and others and understood them. The calculation that I mentioned is currency exchange neutral and expands on them. All that it takes into account is a change of denominations. Currently, if a note of 1000 NID = $0.85, and 3 zeros are dropped from the current denominations by exchanging for newer issued smaller notes, then the new 1 NID note = $0.85. No reval. The (proposed new)1 NID note would be equal to the current 1000 NID note, not to be confused with the current 1 NID in circulation.

All this is hypothetical, as this has not occurred, but look at Turkey and Zimbabwe. Their aim was not to increase their currency's value against other foreign currencies, but to make it more manageable at home.

BritishKnite.

-- August 23, 2008 4:41 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another Commentary entitled, McCain's Saddleback Grand Slam written by: Jed Babbin, Editor of Human Events
8/18/08


Barack Obama bumped into something hard on Saturday night. The nuanced naif of Illinois preceded -- in Paris Hilton’s wonderful snark -- the “wrinkly white-haired dude” in Pastor Rick Warren’s civility summit and came up very short.

You can judge how well McCain did by the minimalist coverage in the media. The highlights reported here were virtually ignored in the Sunday papers.

McCain has never been better. His self deprecation, his humor, and his life story turned the back-to-back interviews into a conclusive demonstration that he is ready for the presidency and Obama isn’t.

McCain was energized, comfortable and quietly eloquent in explaining why his life proves the most important of qualities in a president: character and core beliefs. Obama -- consistently charming and shallow -- demonstrated neither of those qualities.

John McCain was a prisoner of the North Vietnamese for more than five years. Researching an article four years ago on John Kerry’s antiwar activities during many of those same years, I interviewed more than a half-dozen of McCain’s fellow POWs. Each of them, in much the same words, said “I wouldn’t be alive today but for the personal courage of John McCain.”

That courage was explained, calmly, by McCain when Warren asked him to describe the most difficult “gut-wrenching” decision in his life.

McCain answered, “It was long ago and far away in a prison camp in North Vietnam. My father was a high ranking admiral. The Vietnamese came and said that I could leave prison early. And we had a code of conduct that said you only leave by order of capture. I also had a dear and beloved friend who was from California by the name of Ed Alvarez who had been shot down and captured a couple years before me. But I wasn't in good physical shape. In fact I was in rather bad physical shape.”

“So I said no. Now, in interest of full disclosure, I'm very happy I didn't know the war was going to last for another three years or so. But I said no. And I'll never forget. The high-ranking officer who offered it slammed the door and the interrogator said go back to your cell, it's going to be very tough on you now. And it was. But [it was] not only the toughest decision I ever made but I'm most happy about that decision than any decision I've ever made in my life. It took a lot of prayer. It took a lot of prayer.”

In answer to the same question, the best Obama could do was to claim his decision to oppose the war in Iraq was his toughest. How that was a gut-wrenching decision he didn’t explain. Given the fact that his campaign for the Democratic nomination succeeded because that “decision” gave Obama a huge advantage among the anti-war liberals who control the Democratic Party, Obama’s answer revealed political calculation, not moral courage.

McCain was presidential; Obama was a policy wonk. Warren, in the context of taxation, asked each candidate to define who is rich. Obama wandered around to conclude that a family whose income is $150,000 or less is “middle class.” McCain defined “rich” not in terms of dollar income, but in security, opportunity and freedom to choose the future of the family’s children. McCain sounded Reaganesque: “I think that rich is -- should be defined -- by a home, a good job and education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.”

McCain took a full swing on question after question. Obama bunted.

Answering Warren’s question of when a baby is entitled to human rights, Obama said, “Well, I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.”

Obama said he was pro-choice. When pressed to say whether he’d ever voted to limit abortions, Obama slipped and slid around the question, claiming he was in favor of limits on late-term abortions, but cited no example of ever voting for legislation to create such limits. McCain said plainly that he believed that life beings at conception and that, “I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro life policies. That's my commitment, that's my commitment to you.”

Obama defined marriage as between a man and a woman but then launched into an academic disquisition on why he wouldn’t support a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He said, “I think my faith is strong enough and my marriage is strong enough that I can afford those civil rights to others even if I have a different perspective
or a different view.” Obama apparently believes gay marriage is a “civil right.” McCain doesn’t.

McCain -- an attack pilot, not a lawyer -- apparently has a deeper understanding of Constitutional law than the former chief of the Harvard Law Review. He said he’d support a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, “…If a Federal court decided that my state of Arizona had to observe what the state of Massachusetts decided, then I would favor a Constitutional amendment.” The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution compels that result. Without an amendment, any gay marriage from any state must be given legitimacy by every other state.

Saturday night, Obama’s charm failed to mask his humorlessness. McCain’s comparative charm deficit (“You know, by a strange coincidence I was not elected ‘Miss Congeniality’ in the United States Senate this year. I don't know why”) didn’t mask his sense of humor.

Asked to name a changed position, McCain gently mocked California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger by saying his new-found support for offshore drilling wouldn’t be popular with many people “here in Caleefornia.” Talking about how America needs to build more nuclear power plants, McCain said that America likes to imitate the French. Most endearingly to those of us who cannot resist poking fun at the genetically disagreeable French, McCain said, “…and by the way if you hadn't noticed we now have a pro-American president of France which proves if you live long enough anything can happen in America.”

McCain scored a lot of points with conservatives in the Saturday night forum. His performance was so strong, and if he chooses to capitalize on it, this could be a tipping point for McCain.

His next opportunity to take a big step along that path will be the choice of his running mate. Choosing a strong conservative (Fred Thompson? Mike Pence?) to run with him, McCain could energize and unite Republicans for the remainder of this campaign. 2008 need not be a disaster for Republicans. The decisions that could prove the doomsayers wrong are not above John McCain’s pay grade.

Mr. Babbin is the editor of Human Events. He served as a deputy undersecretary of defense in President George H.W. Bush's administration. He is the author of "In the Words of our Enemies"(Regnery,2007) and (with Edward Timperlake) of "Showdown: Why China Wants War with the United States" (Regnery, 2006) and "Inside the Asylum: Why the UN and Old Europe are Worse than You Think" (Regnery, 2004). E-mail him at jbabbin@eaglepub.com.

-- August 23, 2008 4:56 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another commentary call "Fear the Government That Fears Your Gun" by AW Hawkings.
8/18/08


In West Texas, it was not uncommon to see the bumper sticker “fear the government that fears your gun” on a lot of pick-up trucks during both terms of the Clinton administration. Like the rest of the South and much of the Midwest, we were hypersensitive to the thought of having our right to keep and bear arms infringed upon in any way. Moreover, common sense and annual FBI crime statistics taught us that 99.9% of the population only used their guns for defensive reasons, thus we were particularly leery of an administration that sought to take away our instruments of self-defense. Yet as bad as Clinton was, his push to disarm the American people would pale in comparison to what we’d see from a President Barack Obama, a man who not only wants to disarm the American people, but America’s allies as well.

In the 1990s, my fellow West Texans and I were especially bothered by the way Clinton turned every crime -- from Columbine to gang activity -- into an opportunity to pass incremental legislation which made it harder for law-abiding citizens to purchase and carry guns, and therefore harder to be free. And if Obama’s past is any indication, this is the same course he would take in his attempt to get guns out of our hands.

As an Illinois State Senator in 1999, Obama’s solution to gun crime in Chicago was not to push for stricter enforcement of laws already on the books but to support legislation limiting gun purchases to one a month. In other words, his “solution” to gang-related home invasions was to limit the homeowner’s access to firearms.

But that’s only the tip of the iceberg with this guy. During the 109th U.S. Congress, he voted against Senate bill 397, which outlawed frivolous lawsuits against gun companies. And while campaigning for the presidency in Pennsylvania earlier this year, he voiced his support for reinstating the assault weapons ban and spoke openly about his opposition to laws which allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns on or about their persons.

I always wondered what plans Clinton had for us if he could ever take away our guns, and now I wonder why Obama has been such a vocal critic of private gun ownership in the years leading up to his run for the presidency. What type of “change” does he have in store for the American people if he can succeed in disarming us?

Obama’s reasoning -- and what his election would portend for the Second Amendment -- are a part of a larger “unilateral disarmament” ideology that is one of his core values.
Obama wants to disarm America nationally by defunding the missile defense initiatives of which Ronald Reagan dreamed and which President George W. Bush has begun implementing. In a video message to his supporters in 2007, Obama promised that, if elected, he would not “weaponize space” and that he would cut investments in the “unproven” missile defense systems Bush already has in place (add to this his additional promises to “slow our development of future combat systems” and pursue a “world without nuclear weapons” by reducing our own supply first, of course -- it’s almost as if you can hear John Lennon asking us to “imagine there’s no heaven”).

Obama’s opposition to self-defense through missile defense equates to the disarmament of our allies around the globe (if there is no missile defense shield to deploy at home, there will be no shield to deploy abroad). This belief will not be lost on former Soviet satellites, which can see what Russia has done to Georgia in the past weeks and ascertain the kind of “change” Obama has in mind for them if he succeeds in denying them their best means of self-defense.

Even before Russia invaded Georgia, Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski indicated that he feared for Poland’s ability to defend herself should Obama win the presidency. In an interview with Desmond Butler, which ran in the Boston Globe on July 8, 2008, Sikorski said John McCain assured him that he would go forward with Bush’s plans to provide Poland with a missile defense system if elected president, but that Obama had provided “no such assurance.”

As the article continued, Butler summed up Sikorski’s sentiments on an Obama Presidency succinctly: “The Polish government is nervous that any deal it reaches with the Bush administration to allow the United States to install interceptors on Polish soil could be abandoned by the next administration.”

Yet on August 14, 2008, Poland did accept Bush’s plan to provide them with a missile defense shield, and Moscow immediately went on record citing this as an offensive move which will require military retaliation against Poland. Maybe I missed something -- is this why Russia recently attacked Georgia? Does Georgia have a missile defense shield too?

No. Georgia doesn’t have such a shield but Vladimir Putin’s Russia has ambitions, lofty ambitions like those of Josef Stalin and Vladimir Lenin. All Putin needs to accomplish these ambitions is an enabler -- someone who will deny Poles the instruments they need for self-defense and thereby open the door for an armed aggressor to do as he wishes. Obama promises to be Putin’s Johnny on the spot.

On the other hand, McCain supports the 2nd Amendment and the right to self-defense on both the individual and national level. He knows that refusing to provide Poland access to the tools she needs to defend herself is wrong and would expose her to attack in the same way that denying law-abiding U.S. citizens the right to possess firearms would expose them to attack by gangs of armed thugs and shameless perpetrators.

When McCain talks, gun owners and freedom-loving nations like Poland hear a man they can trust, while rogue nations and communist regimes hear a man they cannot control. But when Obama talks, even his friends hear weakness, while rogue nations and communist regimes hear a man they can manipulate. As for me, every time Obama talks, a little voice inside my head reminds me to “fear the government that fears your gun.”
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HUMAN EVENTS columnist AWR Hawkins is a Ph.D. candidate at Texas Tech University. His doctoral studies are focused on the U.S. Military and his dissertation on the Civil War era. He has been published on topics including the U.S. Navy, Civil War battles, Vietnam War ideology, the Reagan Presidency, and the Rebirth of Conservatism, 1968-1988. More of his articles can be found at www.awrhawkins.com.

-- August 23, 2008 5:31 PM


Laura Parker wrote:


All,

Another commentary entitled: FALN, Holder, and Obama: The Price Paid by One 'Ordinary American' By: Joseph F. Connor
08/20/2008


As an “ordinary American,” I sincerely question whether Barack Obama has the judgment to be president. His lack of judgment in choosing Eric Holder as a top adviser on his campaign -- the man partly responsible for pardoning terrorists who proudly claimed responsibility for my father’s murder -- serves as primary evidence supporting that judgment.

Holder now leads Obama’s team selecting his running mate for vice president, perhaps Obama’s most important decision during the campaign. Mr. Holder, formerly the No. 2 official in former President Bill Clinton’s Justice Department, often is mentioned as a potential attorney general in an Obama administration. This is the same man who was a driving force behind President Clinton’s pardons of members of the notorious Puerto Rican terrorist group, the Armed Forces for National Liberation (FALN).

The FALN was one of the most prolific terrorist organizations ever to wage war against the American people. They proudly claimed responsibility for over 130 bombings and incendiary attacks in the U.S. and Puerto Rico between 1974 and 1983, killing six and wounding scores.

Among these vicious, cold-blooded attacks was the Jan. 24, 1975, lunchtime bombing at New York City’s historic Fraunces Tavern. Four innocent men were murdered that day, and one of them was my 33-year-old father, Frank Connor. My father had been very excited to get home from work that night to celebrate my brother’s and my recent 11th and 9th birthdays with his young family. Instead, after my father’s funeral, mourners shared a dinner in our home that was meant for our birthday celebration.

After members of the FALN were arrested, they threatened Judge Thomas McMillen’s life during their Chicago trial. Carmen Valentine told the judge, “You are lucky that we cannot take you right now,” and called the judge a terrorist. Dylcia Pagan warned the courtroom: “All of you, I would advise you to watch your backs.” And Ida Rodriguez told the judge, “You say we have no remorse. You’re right. … Your jails and your long sentences will not frighten us.” These terrorists convinced McMillen that they would continue being terrorists “as long as you live. If there was a death penalty, I’d impose the penalty on you without hesitation.”

Eight of these FALN terrorists later would receive pardons from President Clinton, even though they remained unrepentant. Indeed, after 18 years in prison, Ricardo Jimenez explained to Tim Russert on Meet the Press, just days after his release, that people died at Fraunces Tavern because “measures were not taken that were necessary by the people who owned those establishments.” As I watched this surreal interview I thought, “My father was eating lunch in a crowded restaurant in New York City. What precautions should the owners have taken?”

Former assistant U.S. Attorney and FALN prosecutor Deborah Devaney wrote in The Wall Street Journal on Sept. 7, 1999: “I know the chilling evidence that convicted the petitioners… . [T]he White House spun the tale that Mr. Clinton was freeing only those who had harmed no one…I would like the Connor family to know that the American justice system did not fail them, the President did.”

How does this outrageous and tragic story reflect on Barack Obama’s judgment?

Holder played a central role in freeing these terrorists. As the deputy attorney general, he was responsible for signing off on all clemency matters forwarded to the President, and in this case he recommended that clemency be granted -- despite vehement opposition from the FBI, the Bureau of Prisons, and his own Justice Department.

In a September 1999 letter to House Judiciary Chairman Henry Hyde, FBI Director Louis Freeh explained that “the FBI has consistently advised the DOJ in writing that the FBI was opposed to any such pardon and or commutation of sentences for any of these individuals.” Freeh said clemency “would likely return committed, experienced, sophisticated and hardened terrorists to the clandestine movement.” Mr. Freeh emphasized “the FBI was unequivocally opposed to the release of these terrorists under any circumstances and had so advised the DOJ.” Moreover, in a letter to me dated Jan. 6, 1998, (more than a year before the pardons) a senior official from Holder’s own Justice Department expressly referred to the FALN members as “terrorists.”

Yet, according to Edward Lewine of the New York Daily News, despite this opposition, “Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, the Justice Department official most involved with this issue, reportedly supported clemency.” Indeed, rather than consult with attack victims and their families, Mr. Holder instead met privately with members of Congress and recommended what the FALN members should do to facilitate a grant of presidential clemency.

Was Holder the obedient DAG providing the Clintons’ with justification for politically craven pardons? Or did Holder actually believe in unleashing unrepentant, communist terrorists on the public? Either way, should this man influence a potential VP selection or one day be the nation’s top law enforcement officer? Absolutely not.

The Connor family was shattered on Jan. 24, 1975. Eventually, some healing began. While not a day goes by without us thinking of him, my mom got remarried to a good man. My brother and I graduated college and established families of our own. Regrettably, Frank Connor would never get to hug his four beautiful grandchildren.

But in August 1999, the Clinton administration’s politically motivated pardons revived the terrible pain of our father’s murder. I realize that sociopath terrorists like the FALN lack remorse for their use of murder for political gain; but now our own government was disregarding my father’s life and death for some perceived political advantage.

Worse, releasing the terrorists placed the American people in danger. When I helped introduce the Pardon Attorney Reform and Integrity Act in February 2000, I warned about “the encouragement would-be terrorists must have received by the” FALN clemency grants. Unfortunately, that warning proved prophetic, and Sept. 11, 2001, took the life of my father’s 41-year-old godson, Steve Schlag, and 3,000 other innocent lives as my brother and I watched in horror from our downtown offices.

As Obama declares America needs his presidency because “ordinary Americans are hurting,” I recall the pain that one of his top advisers and a potential attorney general was an accomplice to inflicting on at least one “ordinary American” family. And then I am reminded how Holder’s actions also helped place America in harm’s way.

When he elevated Holder to such a senior campaign position, did Obama reflect the kind of judgment we need in a president? Absolutely not.

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Mr. Joseph F. Connor, son of Frank Connor, has testified before the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations in 1999 and introduced The Pardon Attorney Reform and Integrity Act to Congress in 2000. His articles have been published in the New York Post, Newsmax, and The Wall Street Journal. Mr. Connor has also appeared on several news shows including Nightline, The NBC Nightly News, Hardball as well as various local and nationally syndicated radio programs.

-- August 23, 2008 6:06 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

An article that I believe you need to see. It is kind of long but I think worth reading about Nafta (free trade). It is written by Patrick Buchanan.

August 11, 2003 Issue

Death of American Manufacturing

The rise of free trade has eroded America’s industrial base and with it our sovereignty.

By Patrick J. Buchanan

After Mass at St. Mary’s, a retired FBI agent who had worked as a boy in the great steel plant in Weirton, W.Va., whose father had died in an accident at the mill, handed me the Weirton Daily Times. “Where Do We Go From Here?” read the May 20 banner. The front page was devoted to the bankruptcy filing of Weirton Steel, which had once employed 14,000 workers in a town of 23,000. Mark Glyptis, president of the Independent Steelworkers Union, said it didn’t have to happen. It was a poignant story. When I began my campaign of 2000 at the Weirton mill, Mark and his ISU endorsed me.

That same week, a friend e-mailed me. Timco, a lumber mill where we spent the last day of the New Hampshire campaign of 1996, had shut down. As Weirton Steel had been hammered by subsidized steel dumped in the U.S. market, Timco had to compete with subsidized lumber from Canada.

Across America the story is the same: steel and lumber mills going into bankruptcy; textile plants moving to the Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, and the Far East; auto plants closing and opening overseas; American mines being sealed and farms vanishing. Seven hundred thousand textile workers�quot;many of them minorities and single women�quot;have lost their jobs since NAFTA passed in 1993.

Thirty years have elapsed since our free-trade era began and 30 months since George W. Bush became president. It’s time to measure the promise of global free trade against the performance.

Undeniably, free trade has delivered for consumers. A trip to the mall, where the variety of suits, shoes, shirts, toys, gadgets, games, TVs, and appliances abounds, makes the case. But what has it cost our country?

Every month George Bush has been in office, America has lost manufacturing jobs. One in seven has vanished since his inauguration. In 1950, a third of our labor force was in manufacturing. Now, it is 12.5 percent. U.S. manufacturing is in a death spiral, and it is not a natural death. This is a homicide. Open-borders free trade is killing American manufacturing.

In 2002, we ran a trade deficit in goods of $484 billion. This May, it reached the level of $562 billion, nearly 6 percent of GDP. Evangelists of free trade tell us trade deficits do not matter. Michael Boskin, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under Bush I, declared, “It does not make any difference whether a country makes computer chips or potato chips.”

History teaches otherwise. In 1860, Britain abandoned its Britain First trade policy for the free-trade faith of David Ricardo, John Stuart Mill, and Richard Cobden. By World War I, Britain, which produced twice what America did in 1860, produced less than half and had been surpassed by a Germany that did not even exist in 1860.

Free trade does to a nation what alcohol does to a man: saps him first of his vitality, then his energy, then his independence, then his life.

America today exhibits the symptoms of a nation passing into late middle age. We spend more than we earn. We consume more than we produce.

Why does it matter where our goods are produced? Because, as I wrote in The Great Betrayal:

Manufacturing is the key to national power. Not only does it pay more than service industries, the rates of productivity growth are higher and the potential of new industries arising is far greater. From radio came television, VCRs, and flat-panel screens. From adding machines came calculators and computers. From the electric typewriter came the word processors. Research and development follow manufacturing.

Alexander Hamilton, the architect of the U.S. economy, knew this. He had served in the Revolution as aide to Washington and lived through the British blockades. He had led the bayonet charge at Yorktown. And he had resolved that never again would his country’s survival depend upon French muskets or French ships.

As first Treasury Secretary, he delivered in 1791 the “Report on Manufactures,” one of America’s great state papers. Reflecting on how close his country had come to losing its liberty, Hamilton wrote,

Not only the wealth, but the independence and security of a country, appear to be materially connected with the prosperity of manufactures. Every nation … ought to endeavor to possess within itself all the essentials of a national supply. These comprise the means of subsistence, habitation, clothing and defense.

Under the Constitution he helped write, a national free-trade zone was created. Hamilton’s idea was to use tariffs to end our dependence on Europe and force British merchants to finance our government and the roads, harbors, and canals that would tie America together with commerce.

Tariffs would give our national government the revenue to operate, while providing our people both privileged access to the fastest growing market on earth and incentives to go into manufacturing. With American manufacturing thus encouraged, we would soon produce ourselves the guns and ships to defend the republic and the necessities of our national life so we could stand alone against the world.

For 12 decades, America followed Hamilton’s vision. On the eve of World War I, the 13 agricultural colonies on the eastern seaboard had become the richest nation on earth with the highest standard of living, a republic that produced 96 percent of all it consumed while exporting 8 percent of its GNP, an industrial colossus that manufactured more than Britain, France, and Germany combined.

The self-sufficiency and industrial power Hamiltonian policies created enabled us to rearm in security, crush the Axis in four years, rebuild Europe and Japan, and outlast the Soviet empire in a Cold War, while meeting all the needs of our people.

But in the Clinton-Bush free-trade era, Alexander Hamilton is derided as a “protectionist.” Woodrow Wilson’s free-trade dogma is gospel. Result: our trade surpluses have vanished, our deficits have exploded, our self-sufficiency has been lost, our sovereignty has been diminished, and an industrial base that was the envy of mankind has been gutted.

And for what? All that junk down at the mall? What do we have now that we did not have before we submitted to this cult of free trade?

The Loss of Independence

Consider the depths of our new dependency. Imports, 4 percent of GDP for the first 70 years of the 20th century, are near 15 percent now, and 30 percent of the manufactures we consume. Pat Choate, author of Agents of Influence, gives the following levels of U.S. dependency on foreign suppliers for critical goods:

Medicines and pharmaceuticals: 72 percent

Metalworking machinery: 51 percent

Engines and power equipment: 56 percent

Computer equipment: 70 percent

Communications equipment: 67 percent

Semiconductors and electronics: 64 percent

In July, the U.S. Business and Industrial Council reported that the Pentagon officials responsible for procuring U.S. weapons had joined with defense industries to oppose legislation requiring 65 percent U.S. content. U.S. missile defense and the Joint Strike Fighter would be imperiled if 65 percent of the components had to be made in the USA.

As Choate writes, Dell Computers of Austin has 4,500 suppliers. Its just-in-time supply line, which stretches across the Atlantic and Pacific, has an inventory of four days. A dock strike on either coast, and Dell begins to close down after 96 hours.

The Loss of Sovereignty

In the lame-duck session of Congress after the GOP triumph of 1994, Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich colluded with Clinton to bring us into a World Trade Organization where we are outvoted 15-1 by the European Union. In its most important ruling, the WTO has held that the foreign sales corporations of U.S. exporters like Microsoft and Boeing, set up to receive tax benefits voted by Congress, violate the rules of free trade.

Europe is now authorized to impose $4 billion in tariff penalties on U.S. exports if Congress fails to rewrite our tax laws to conform to WTO commands.

When America bailed out the world in the Asian crisis of 1997-98, Indonesia, South Korea, Russia, and Brazil devalued their currencies, slashing the dollar price of their exports. To enable them to earn the hard currency to pay back Western banks and the IMF, America agreed to keep her markets open. Soon, steel from Indonesia, South Korea, Japan, Russia, and Brazil was being dumped in the United States, and American mills were reeling.

The recent steel decision is instructive. By 2002, 25 steel companies had gone bankrupt, and the International Trade Commission had identified dumping as the industry killer. Invoking U.S. trade law, President Bush imposed tariffs. The dumpers howled and ran to the WTO, which declared the U.S. tariffs unjustified. Either the Congress removes them or the EU is empowered to impose $2 billion in tariff penalties on U.S. exports.

Consider what submission to the WTO has meant. Our Congress is ordered by foreign bureaucrats to alter U.S. law or our companies face penalties. Presidential decisions to protect vital American industries are declared invalid by Eurocrats. The terms of access to the U.S. market are now to be decided in Geneva by Lilliputians of the New World Order.

Why are we letting this happen?
Libertarians teach that free trade provides a check on government power. By enabling citizens to buy outside their borders, free trade forces governments to reduce regulations and taxes to stay competitive.A fine theory. Has it worked out? Hardly. History shows that the opposite is true. Bismarck’s Zollverein, or customs union, went hand-in-hand with the rise of the Second Reich. The EU evolved from a free-trade common market into the socialist superstate of today that is the model for the world government under which all nations surrender sovereignty and how we live will be decided by Platonic guardians.

In the protectionist era from 1789 to 1933, U.S. taxes rarely took more than 3 percent of GNP, except in wartime. Government relied on tariffs. Before 1913, except for the Civil-War era and briefly under Cleveland, we had no income tax. But in the free-trade era, U.S. tax rates on incomes, currently 35 percent, have risen as high as 70 percent, and spending has exceeded 20 percent of GDP in peacetime. The free-trade era is the era of Big Government.

As a former Friedmanite free trader, let me say it: free trade is a bright shining lie. Free trade is the Trojan Horse of world government. Free trade is the murderer of manufacturing and the primrose path to the loss of national sovereignty and the end of our independence.

NAFTA: The Big StingIn 1993, the NAFTA debate gripped the country. Clinton had the backing of the political establishment, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, Brookings, National Review, New Republic, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable. Perot, Buchanan, Nader, and the AFL-CIO were opposed, as were the people. But that did not matter. Before the vote, the bazaar opened, and Congressmen began selling votes to Clinton for whatever they could get. NAFTA won.

Ten years later, returns are in. We were told our trade surplus with Mexico would grow, that NAFTA would create jobs here, that the rising wages in Mexico would end the invasion of illegal aliens.

But, the year after NAFTA passed, Mexico devalued the peso, and the United States began to run a string of trade deficits that has reached $40 billion a year. Drug cartels in South America shifted operations to Mexico. U.S. exports to Mexico are up, but it is not finished goods we send south but parts to be assembled�quot;and factories and jobs as owners shutter plants north of the Rio Grande in search of wages that are 10 to 20 percent of what they have to pay in the United States.By 2000, a million Mexicans were working in maquiladora plants south of the border at jobs once held by Americans. But now, the creative destruction of globalization has come to Mexico. Factories there are being shut down and moved to America’s new enterprise zone, China.

And the Mexican people? Half of the 100 million are still mired in poverty. Tens of millions are unemployed or underemployed. Real wages are below what they were in 1993. And the migration north continues as 1.5 million are caught each year breaking into the United States. Of those who make it, one-third head for California where their claims on welfare, Medicaid, schools, and prisons have tipped the state toward bankruptcy as the taxpayers have begun a great exodus to Nevada, Idaho, and Colorado.

NAFTA has helped to convert California into Mexifornia and the Golden State into a Third-World country. Ten years after its passage, Mexico’s leading export continues to be Mexicans.

Factory Floor to the World

While Americans are sacrificing the future for the present, China is sacrificing the present for the future.

Beijing’s boom began after it devalued its currency in 1994. While a blow to Chinese consumers, devaluation gave Beijing a competitive edge over the other “Asian tigers.” Beijing then invited Western companies to locate new factories there to tap its pool of low-wage labor. As the price of access, Beijing demanded that Western companies transfer technology to Chinese partners. What the companies do not transfer, the Chinese extort or steal.

By offering excellent workers at $2 a day, guaranteeing no union trouble, allowing levels of pollution we would not tolerate, and ignoring health and safety standards, China has become the factory floor of the Global Economy and surpassed the United States as the world’s first choice for foreign investment.

What analyst Charles McMillion calls “the world’s most unequal trading relationship,” can be seen in the trade statistics. In 2002, the U.S. trade deficit with China was $103 billion. In May, it was running at $120 billion, the largest deficit between two trading nations in history.

It is thus a myth to say President Bush is presiding over a “jobless recovery.” The Bush tax cuts and Bush deficits are creating millions of manufacturing jobs �quot;in China. America buys 14 percent of China’s production and delivers Beijing a trade surplus of 12 percent of its entire GDP. American purchases probably account today for 100 percent of China’s economic growth.

The U.S.-China relationship cannot truly be described as trade. It is rather the looting of America by China and its corporate collaborators in the United States. Beijing understands what economic nationalist Friedrich List wrote long ago: “The power of producing wealth is infinitely more important than the wealth itself.”

China has now amassed $360 billion in reserves from her trade surpluses since 1990. Much of that is invested in U.S. bonds and T-bills, earning Beijing billions in interest from the U.S. Treasury. America may be the most advanced nation on earth, and China a developing country, but you could not tell that from studying the trade statistics.

In 2002, China ran up its largest trade surpluses with us in electrical machinery, computers, toys, games, footwear, furniture, clothing, plastics, articles of iron and steel, vehicles, optical and photographic equipment, and other manufactures. Among the 23 items where we had a surplus with China were soybeans, corn, wheat, animal feeds, meat, cotton, metal ores, scrap, hides and skins, pulp and waste paper, cigarettes, gold, coal, mineral fuels, rice, tobacco, fertilizers, glass. Beijing uses us as George III used his Jamestown colony.

One who has studied how China deals with craven capitalists who come courting is columnist Terry Jeffrey. On inspecting the Web site of Motorola, Jeffrey found this description of how it sees its future:

Motorola is moving toward … taking China as its home and development base. Motorola Chinese Electronics … has increased its investment several times in China without taking away a single dollar. The company reinvested all the profits in China. … Since the very beginning Motorola has brought forward the idea of trying to be a good citizen of China, taking China as its home and thriving with the Chinese people. … The development goal is to become a true Chinese company.

The hilarity of Motorola’s kowtow to the mandarins of the Middle Kingdom aside, this passage reveals a hidden cost of globalization. When U.S. companies go global, they shed their loyalty to America.

Consider Boeing, last surviving U.S. manufacturer of commercial aircraft. Apparently, Boeing has gone beyond building plants in China to make horizontal stabilizers and vertical fins for its fleet. On Jan. 1, this story ran in the New York Times:


The State Department has accused two leading American companies of 123 violations of export laws in connection with the transfer of rocket and satellite data to China during the 1990s. The Boeing company and Hughes Electronics Corporation, a unit of General Motors, were notified of the accusations last week.

Hamilton, Clay, Lincoln, and T.R. would recognize China’s policy for what it is and counter it. But this generation of free traders does not have a clue as to what is going on, or does not care. Either way, the consequences will be the same: de-industrialization of America, decline of the dollar, a deepening dependency on foreign countries for the necessities of our national life, diminished sovereignty, and eventual loss of our independence. If you disbelieve this, look at the once sovereign and independent nations of Europe.

Implosion of the Global Economy

One need not have a Nobel Prize in economics to understand that U.S. trade deficits cannot continue rising indefinitely. As Choate reports,

In the 1970s, [the United States] mounted a decades-long deficit of $75 billion. … In the 1980s, the deficit soared to $843 billion as Japan began to take away our industries. … In the 1990s, that trade deficit doubled to $1.7 trillion. … At this pace, we’re probably going to have a $6 trillion cumulative deficit in this decade�quot;and that’s probably an understated number given the pace we are losing our manufacturing base.

But the world is not going to continue lending Americans $500 or $600 billion a year to indulge our appetite for foreign goods. The U.S. dollar has already lost 25 percent of its value against the Euro, and foreigners have begun to buy up America, purchasing our land, stocks, bonds, and T-bills. Foreigners now claim a lion’s share of the $300 billion we pay in annual interest on the U.S. debt and have liens against all future profits of our Fortune 500 companies.

Consider the altered situation we face today compared with five years ago. When the Asian crisis broke, our economy was booming. We could see budget surpluses out to the horizon. With the IMF, we poured over $200 billion in fresh loans into Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, South Korea, Russia, Argentina, and Brazil. To enable them to earn the cash to pay back the sums they owed private creditors and international banks, we pledged to keep America’s markets open to their exports.

These, then, are the three pillars of the Global Economy: first, the willingness of America to bail out nations about to default. Second, the willingness and capacity of America to run enormous trade deficits indefinitely. Third, continued wealth transfers to the Third World.

And this is why the Global Economy is in peril. When Argentina declared it could not service its debt, America and the IMF refused to lend new money. Argentina defaulted. A tottering Brazil was bailed out, but the message was clear. The days of automatic bailouts of bankrupt regimes are over.

And with the dollar sinking, the U.S. budget deficit soaring, our merchandise trade deficit at $562 billion and rising, and manufacturing jobs vanishing at the rate of 80,000 a month, America’s willingness and ability to continue sacrificing for the Global Economy are coming to an end.Perhaps the most inexplicable free traders are the neoconservatives who champion “unilateralism,” talk of a Pax Americana, and cheer the coming American empire of pith helmets and jodhpurs. Do they not understand that trade is not an end in itself but a means to an end: national power? Can they not see that our growing dependence on foreign oil and nations like China for the necessities of national defense imperils our security? Can they not see that these mammoth trade deficits must sink the dollar and that no nation with a falling currency can maintain the troops and subsidies to sustain an empire?

In 1962, Prescott Bush stood with Barry Goldwater and Strom Thurmond to vote no on JFK’s Trade Expansion Act. President Bush rejects the economic patriotism of his grandfather and embraces the Wilsonian faith that free trade will lead to global democracy and world peace. Like his father, he also embraces Wilson’s faith in open borders and moral interventionism. Wilsonism may cost him his presidency.

-- August 23, 2008 6:47 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I received an e-mail from Orrin Hatch, Republican Senator of Utah to inform me about the following aims of Obama. He directed me to this article from the Wall Street Journal. Thought you might want to see.

POTOMAC WATCH
By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

Democrats Aim for a 60-Vote Senate
August 22, 2008; Page A13
Here's an intriguing thought: The John McCain-Barack Obama fight isn't this season's biggest political story. That honor should be reserved for the intense Democratic push to win a filibuster-proof Senate majority.

Democrats know this is a huge prize, and they are throwing at least as much money and sweat into that effort as they are into electing Mr. Obama. What isn't clear is that voters are as aware of the stakes. An unstoppable Democratic Senate has the potential to alter the balance of power in Washington in ways not yet seen.


Martin Kozlowski
A quick recap of the numbers: Republicans must defend 23 seats, compared to 12 for the Democrats. Of those GOP slots, 10 are at potential risk: Virginia, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Oregon, Colorado, Alaska, Mississippi, Maine and North Carolina. The Democrats claim only one vulnerable senator this year, Louisiana's Mary Landrieu. Depending on how big a day the party has in November, it is at least conceivable Democrats could get the nine seats they need to hit the magic 60.

The nation has had prior almighty Senates, of course, and it hasn't been pretty. Free of the filibuster check, the world's greatest deliberative body tends to go on benders. It was a filibuster-proof Democratic majority (or near to it, in his first years) that allowed FDR to pass his New Deal. It was a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate that allowed Lyndon Johnson to pass his Great Society.

Note, however, that it could have been worse. These were days with more varied political parties. Rebellious Democrats teamed up with Republicans to tangle with Roosevelt. Johnson ran the risk that the GOP would ally with Southern Democrats. There was some check.

As Karl Rove pointed out to me recently, the real risk of a 2009 filibuster-proof Senate is that the dissidents are gone. According to Congressional Quarterly, in 1994 Senate Democrats voted with their party 84% of the time. By 1998, that number was 86%. CQ's most recent analysis, of votes during the George W. Bush presidency, showed Democratic senators remained united 91% of the time. Should he get his 60 seats, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will be arguably more influential than the president.

Sure, 60 votes isn't enough to override a presidential veto. But a filibuster-proof majority would put Mr. Reid in almost complete control of the agenda. That holds equally true whether we have a President McCain or a President Obama.

A lot of voters are drawn to Mr. Obama's promises of bipartisanship. But with a filibuster-proof Senate, what Mr. Obama promised will be of secondary concern. Even if the presidential hopeful is sincere about working across the aisle (and that's a big if), Ted Kennedy, Pat Leahy, Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold will prefer to do things their way. They'll be looking for opportunities to let their former rookie Senate colleague know who is in charge.

Mr. Reid won't necessarily need 60 votes to hold Washington's whip hand. With a contingent of blue-state Republicans (think Maine's Olympia Snowe), Mr. Reid could peel off votes and have an "effective" filibuster with just 57 or 58 seats. That may not be enough to accomplish every last item on his wish list, but close.

That wish list? Take a look at what House Democrats (who aren't burdened with a filibuster) unilaterally passed last year: The biggest tax increase in history; card check, which eliminates secret ballots in union organizing elections; an "energy" bill that lacks drilling; vastly expanded government health insurance; new powers to restrict pharmaceutical prices. Add to this a global warming program, new trade restrictions (certainly no new trade deals) and fewer private options in Medicare.

This explains why Congressional Democrats currently aren't moving spending bills, or energy bills, or anything. They are waiting for next year, when they hope to no longer have to deal with pesky Republicans. This also explains the Senate's paltry judicial confirmations this Congress. They want more vacancies. With a filibuster-proof majority, Democrats could reshape the judiciary under a President Obama, or refuse to confirm any Antonin Scalia-type appointments made by a President McCain.

Party leaders feel the Senate GOP can remain an effective opposition if it holds Democrats to 55 seats. If Republicans can continue to ride the energy debate, that just might be possible. As it is, they are feeling more confident about even tough fights in states like Colorado, Oregon or Minnesota.

Then again, it's a long way to November. Anything can happen. And if Congressional Democrats have their way, that "anything" will be undiluted power in Washington.

Write to kim@wsj.com

-- August 23, 2008 7:23 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on news from Gaza.

Cutting out US role, new Egyptian-Saudi plan proposes inter-Arab force for Gaza
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 23, 2008, 6:31 PM (GMT+02:00)


Putting together a new scheme for Gaza
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that a new 11-point scheme, just developed by Saudi King Abdullah and Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, provides for the bulk of the 3,000-strong force to be Egyptian. The plan would effectively restore Egypt’s pre-1967 domination of the Gaza Strip.

It will be presented to Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak when he visits Mubarak’s summer palace in Alexandria, Tuesday, Aug. 26.

Hamas is offered a political comeback on the West Bank and a seat on the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO)’s ruling institutions.

When Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s arrives in Jerusalem and Ramallah, Sunday, Aug. 24, she will find this plan already on the table for Egypt (speaking also for Saudi Arabia), Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

If Israel accepted the Egyptian-Saudi blueprint, its 1979 peace treaty with Cairo would have to be revised, especially the demilitarization provisions. A parallel proposal would appoint Jordan as overseer of Palestinian government institutions and security forces on the West Bank.

According to DEBKAfile’s sources, Saudi King Abdullah this week discussed the plan with the Jordanian king and the Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

They note that this is the most far-reaching Arab regional plan since the Saudi peace initiative was put forward in 2000. If carried by all the parties involved, it would restore certain key elements of their pre-1967 War status to the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

DEBKAfile’s sources reveal here the 11 points of the new plan:

1. The rival Palestinian Hamas and Fatah must end their vendetta.

2. They will both release prisoners.

3. Fatah fugitives from the Gaza Strip will be allowed to return home.

4. The tit-for-tat bans on Fatah and Hamas institutions in the Gaza Strip and West Bank must be lifted.

5. Hamas must hand Gaza’s ruling institutions back seized two years ago to the Palestinian Authority.

The last six clauses present the toughest challenges.

6. Hamas must suspend the operations of its militia and police forces.

7. Inter-Arab monitors, headed by Egyptian officers, will supervise the Gaza police force.

8. Another panel headed by Egyptian officers will compile a reform program for the Palestinian security bodies in Gaza, effectively removing them from Hamas’ hands.

9. In the interim, until the reform program is implemented, an inter-Arab force of 3,000, commanded by Egyptian security officers, will be in charge of security matters.

10. A provisional Palestinian government will be installed in Ramallah in place of the Salam Fayad administration. It will consist of nonpartisan technocrats acceptable to Fatah and Hamas alike.

11. The PLO’s governing institutions will be overhauled to make room for Hamas representation for the first time.

-- August 23, 2008 7:48 PM


Sara wrote:

Thanks, Britishknite..

I didn't understand your viewpoint was, quote, "1 NID note = $0.85. No reval."

It looked like you were saying it was more money because your original post said, quote:

If $1 currently equal 1180 NIDs (assumption as not sure what current rate is), then a 3 zero lop on the bank notes means $1 = 1.18 NIDs, or 1 NID = $0.85. That is real money.

I mistook your meaning on the idea of this being real money to your saying it was a REAL INCREASE in value of the Dinar money.

Thanks for the correction. Sorry I misunderstood. My apologies.

Sara.

-- August 23, 2008 8:34 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Pakistan: Key party chooses Zardari for president


Islamabad, 22 August (AKI) - The party of slain former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, has chosen her widower, Asif Ali Zardari, as its presidential candidate to succeed former President Pervez Musharraf.

The Central Executive Committee of Pakistan People’s Party nominated the PPP Co-chairman, Asif Ali Zardari for the post of president of Pakistan.

Musharraf, the former general who ruled Pakistan since he deposed former prime minister Nawaz Sharif in a coup in 1999, resigned on Monday to avoid impeachment proceedings.

The Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting, Sherry Rehman announced the news of Zardari's candidacy to reporters after the PPP committee meeting on Friday .

She said added that a committee has been set up for restoration of the deposed judges who were sacked by Musharraf during emergency rule last November.

-- August 24, 2008 12:07 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article on Pakistan.

Pakistan: Coalition agrees on framework to restore judges

Islamabad, 22 August (AKI) - Syed Saleem Shahzad - Pakistan's former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Friday agreed to allow the Parliament to determine the future reinstatement of the judges sacked by former President Pervez Musharraf.

While he backed down from an earlier threat to withdraw from the coalition, the Pakistan People's Party decision to nominate Asif Ali Zardari for president is expected to create renewed tension among the coalition partners.

Sharif has repeatedly demanded that any presidential nomination should be done with the consensus of all parties.

Without his main coalition ally Asif Zardari, and flanked by two other coalition partners Asfandyar Wali Khan and Maulana Fazlur Rahman, Nawaz Sharif proposed at a media conference that a resolution should be presented to the national assembly on Monday.

After a parliamentary debate that would enable the proposal to be accepted by Wednesday and the judges would be restored. This is the third time that deadline for the restoration of judges were extended.

However, he warned that without the restoration of deposed Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhary, the whole process of restoration would be unacceptable.

But the PPP's leaders fear if Chaudhry and other judges are reinstated they could overturn a controversial amnesty that Musharraf granted Zardari and his wife, the slain former premier, Benazir Bhutto, that enabled them to return to the country.

“We have summoned all our colleagues to decide our future course and let me tell you that yesterday we were behind the political parties, but tomorrow we have to decide our own course independently,” retired justice Tariq Mehmood told Adnkronos International (AKI).

He said he could not elaborate about the next policy until a meeting of lawyers to be held to discuss the issue at a meeting on Saturday.

As the restoration of judges placed the future of the coalition in doubt, the Pakistan Peoples Party organised another controversial move on Friday when the provincial Sindh assembly passed a resolution in favour of Asif Zardari’s nomination as president.

Nawaz Sharif’s PML-N leaders already proposed the names of former Chief Justice of Pakistan Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui who refused to take the oath under Musharraf after the 1999 coup, and Justice Fakruddin Ibrahim, another respected former judge and advocate, as potential presidential candidates.

“The alliance seems to be in hot water again. The restoration of the judiciary is still looking difficult especially while Asif Zardari is fully focused to become the president and is not ready to compromise on that,” Sheikh Rasheed the former federal minister and chief of his own Awami Muslim League told AKI.

“What a dilemma. Nawaz Sharif is scared of the sitting judiciary because his case of qualification to contest the election is pending and another leader Asif Zardari is scared of the deposed Chief Justice because he might revoke the national conciliation ordinance which would open up the pandora box of his corruption,” said Sheikh Rasheed.

Pakistan Muslim League-N leader Nawaz Sharif said that his party does not want to see the collapse the ruling coalition and that Musharraf resigned because of the strength of ruling coalition.

There was a written deal with Asif Zardari that judges would be restored within 24 hours after Musharraf’s resignation but it did not take place.

In a meeting with Asfandyar Wali and Maulana Fazlur Rehman, it was decided that a resolution would be drafted for the restoration of judges and to declare the 3 November measures void.

The resolution would be presented in the National Assembly on Monday and expected to be approved on Wednesday after debate.

The Election Commission has announced the schedule for presidential election on 6 September 6 and called for nominations.

-- August 24, 2008 12:10 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Iraq: Rice makes surprise visit to Baghdad

Baghdad, 21 August (AKI) - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Iraq on Thursday in a surprise visit to Baghdad.

The leaders were believed to be discussing the future of American forces deployed in Iraq.

It comes after 10 months of difficult negotiations between Washington and Baghdad about the status of US troops on Iraqi soil.

Reports have suggested a compromise draft agreement is being considered by both governments.

Rice was also expected to meet Iraqi Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.

Her visit came a day after a visit by Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora who had talks with al-Maliki on boosting oil exports and boosting bilateral ties.

-- August 24, 2008 12:29 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

Roger and all,

An indication of where Pakistan is heading on the political scene against terrorism.
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Pakistan: PM says terrorists are greatest threat

Islamabad, 21 August (AKI) - Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gillani said on Thursday that Pakistan was not facing any threat of external attack but said terrorists were the biggest enemies of the country.

Gillani and co-chairman of the Pakistan People’s Party, Asif Ali Zardari, both condemned the twin suicide blasts that killed more than 50 people and injured scores of others at an arms factory outside Islamabad.

He was speaking at an anti-terrorism programme organised by the US State Department in Islamabad.

According to the Pakistani channel Geo-TV, Gillani said that the war on terrorism should be pursued in the larger interest of nation and added it should be fought aggressively.

Speaking at the same event, Interior Adviser Rehman Malik said a secure Pakistan and Afghanistan were necessary for safe world.

United States Ambassador to Pakistan, Anne W. Patterson, paid tribute to security forces and police officials killed during war on terror.

She said the US would continue to train Pakistani security agencies under its terrorism programme.

-- August 24, 2008 12:35 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Italy is having problems economically---possibly a recession.

Business
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Italy: Grim outlook raises fears of Euro currency switch


Rome, 30 July (AKI) - Despite signs of a serious economic downturn, Italy is unlikely to withdraw from Europe's monetary union, according to some economists.

A report released by the UK-based research group, Capital Economics, says that Italy's economy is deteriorating "at an alarming pace" and will continue to lag behind its neighbours.

Capital Economics said the outlook is grim in the short and medium-term unless Italy undertakes urgent reform.

"Unless the new government can quickly implement much needed structural economic reforms to boost the sustainable growth rate, actual growth is likely to disappoint the markets over the medium-term as well as the short-term," said the report, released in London.

Ben May, European economist and author of the report, told Adnkronos International (AKI) on Wednesday that Italy will "stagnate" in 2008, expanding by only 0.5 percent in 2009.

"We think not only will the growth rate be a bit weaker than consensus expects over the next year or so, (but) that could well stretch on for a longer period," May told AKI.

"We see little prospect of Italy catching up with the rest of the Eurozone in the medium-term."

The report provoked specualation that Italy may leave the European currency. May said this was a "theoretical possibility".

May said that returning to the old Italian currency, the 'Lira' , would restore competitiveness by reverting to a previous strategy of depreciating the currency. But he warned that there were risks for Italian banks and such a move could cause a dumping of government bonds by investors.

"I wouldn't rule out renewed calls for Italy to leave the Euro at some point in the future," May told AKI.

May was also asked about whether Italy may be facing a recession and economic stagnation.

"Certainly. We have produced some potentially grave estimates for Italy for the next few years, and they seem to be a little bit weaker than the consensus expectations seem to imply," he said.

The report said that Italy was on the verge of its fourth technical recession in a decade and that the country's economic fundamentals were in poor shape.

"Weak domestic demand and slowing export growth should mean that the economy stagnates in 2008 and expands by a mere 0.5 percent in 2009," it said.

The report cited Italy's over-regulated product and labour markets, complex business law, slow judiciary system and the underdevelopment of financial markets among its major issues.

According to Capital Economics, these factors have stifled competition, innovation, and the efficient use of resources.

However, Giuseppe Burgio, economics professor at Rome's La Sapienza University, told AKI that Italy would not leave the European monetary union.

"Italy is one of the best partners of the European Union," he said. "I do not believe Italy risks to leave the Eurozone."

Burgio acknowledged that the Italian government was dealing with the country's massive debt and taking steps to address the mounting cost of social services.

"Italy is already engaged in the very difficult job of preparing the budget for the next three years instead of one year," Burgio told AKI.

"We already have a budget until 2012. This will seriously reduce our budget deficit that we have accumulated in the last 10 years."

He conceded there was a small chance that Italy might not be able to absorb recent and future economic shocks, in particular due to rising energy costs.

-- August 24, 2008 12:45 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Economic news on Iran.
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Iran: Up to 14 million living in poverty, says central bank

Tehran, 4 August (AKI) - As many as 14 million Iranians are living under the poverty line, according to Iran's central bank.

While the figure was anticipated by several independent economists, the information has been confirmed by the Bank Markazi.

In the bank's latest quarterly, Amar Eghtesadi, says "there are at least 14 million, people who are living under the poverty line".

Two years ago the figure was less than half. According to the experts from the Bank Markazi, the dramatic increase in inflation has been the major reason for the increased number of poor who consume less than the 2300 calories a day, the daily recommendation of the World Health Organization.

Meanwhile, official figures say that Iranian imports for the first four months of the current year, which began on 21 March, totalled 18.3 billion dollars, while non-oil exports totalled less than 6 billion dollars.

Figures released by Iran's Customs Office, show that the balance of payments for 103 of the 185 countries that trade with Tehran is unfavourable for Iran.

This year Iran will be forced to spend another eight billion dollars to import refined petroleum.

-- August 24, 2008 12:50 AM


Sara wrote:

As I said.. the Iraqis will vote out those who do not give them the prosperity they need..
and the RV would make for them a way to have that prosperity and development.
One laments how EXPENSIVE everything is.. well, it is because their money is worth so little.
He cannot buy seed or fertilizer (likely from out of the country) to provide for his children..
because the Iraqis are more worried about speculators than providing for their own families by RVing.
May God help them to vote into power those who will RV for them and kickstart their prosperity,
and help them also to vote OUT of power those who will not do this move which will help them.

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Iraq's bombed mosque city pins hopes on vote
by Jay Deshmukh Sat Aug 23, 2008

SAMARRA, Iraq (AFP) - For some Iraqis voting is a way to avenge the killing of their loved ones, others hope the ballot will enact change, bring justice and maybe even reverse their fortunes.

Nearly 100,000 voters in central Iraq's Samarra -- a city with a violent past and links to Al-Qaeda insurgents -- are flocking to register to vote ahead of the delayed ballot, which was originally scheduled for October 1.

"This time we will vote. There is no doubt. We have to assert our rights," said Ahmed Hakim al-Samarraie, a 28-year-old biology lecturer in the Samarra College of Science.

It's a dramatic turnaround in attitudes from four years ago when Samarra residents who had pledged to vote were cowed by Al-Qaeda bullying, threats and wholesale murder.

Samarra, north of Baghdad, holds the dubious distinction of having sparked the violent sectarianism which swept through Iraq after Al-Qaeda insurgents bombed a revered Shiite shrine in the city of 600,000 people.

When the Al-Qaeda in Iraq chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- later killed in a US air strike -- spearheaded the insurgency, he threatened a "merciless war" if Samarra citizens voted in January 2005 parliamentary and provincial elections.

Locals hid in fear as Zarqawi's men attacked schools converted to voting centres, derailing the election that many believe could have given Samarra eight seats in Salaheddin's 38-member provincial council.

"The situation was different then. People were scared," said Samarraie.

"But not voting has caused more suffering as we are dying for basic needs. We want to change this situation. Everybody will vote this time."

Eligible men and women are queuing up daily throughout Samarra to register to vote, even if the polls for Iraq's 18 provinces that Washington sees as key to stability are unlikely to take place in 2008 due to political wrangling.

The United Nations says that 1.8 million new voters have already registered in the provinces of Salaheddin, Nineveh, Anbar and Muthanna.

Sattar Hamid, 45, a local farmer who came to the main election centre downtown to register his name, waved his yellow ballot card as a sign of hope that life will change for him.

"These days it is difficult to survive. Everything is so expensive... the seeds, the fertilisers. I have 19 children to feed. The situation got difficult because we did not vote last time. But this time we will express our rights." Samarra's absence from the provincial parliament has made it difficult for the city's political demands to be heard.

A walk through the city's main streets makes it clear that Samarra has lost out on national and provincial funding, on the services and reconstruction which it desperately needs.

Garbage piles up on street corners, bombed houses and schools go unrepaired, and roads, many of them bomb-cratered, are unpaved. Electricity is patchy as are water and well-supplied hospitals.

But the streets still bustle with activity, markets are open and shops and restaurants are filled with patrons -- a clear sign that security has improved in the past six months.

"Last year I could hardly keep my shop open for two hours," said hardware store-owner Saleh Abu Barat.

"Now the shop is open the entire day. All this is due to the drastic improvement in the security and the key is the cooperation between security forces and the Sahwas."

Sahwas, nearly 3,000 of whom are deployed day and night to guard the city, are the armed Sunni Arab groups formed in the city to fight al-Qaeda militants.

Better security means that residents can rebuild their lives, and perhaps even seek justice for the string of assassinations of the city's professional class.

"For me voting is revenge," said Umm Ahmed, whose 45-year-old husband was shot dead by masked gunmen 100 metres (yards) from the technical college he headed.

"I have six children to raise and I have no money as my husband's salary has stopped. I hope elections bring justice so that people like those who killed my husband are punished," she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080823/wl_mideast_afp/iraqunrestsamaravote

-- August 24, 2008 2:51 AM


Sara wrote:

VP choice Biden unpopular in Iraq for autonomy plan
By Peter Graff and Khalid al-Ansary
Sat Aug 23, 2008

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Senator Joe Biden may be one of the only U.S. politicians that can get Iraq's feuding Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish politicians to agree. But not in a good way.

Across racial and religious boundaries, Iraqi politicians on Saturday bemoaned Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama's choice of running mate, known in Iraq as the author of a 2006 plan to divide the country into ethnic and sectarian enclaves.

"This choice of Biden is disappointing, because he is the creator of the idea of dividing Iraq," Salih al-Mutlaq, head of National Dialogue, one of the main Sunni Arab blocs in parliament, told Reuters.

"We rejected his proposal when he announced it, and we still reject it. Dividing the communities and land in such a way would only lead to new fighting between people over resources and borders. Iraq cannot survive unless it is unified, and dividing it would keep the problems alive for a long time."

"The original 'Biden plan' seems less relevant in Iraq today than at any point," said Reidar Visser, a Norwegian academic and editor of the Iraq-focused website historiae.org. "The trend in parliament is clearly in a more national direction, with political parties coming together across sectarian divides.

"In other words, there is a very strong Iraqi mobilization against precisely the core elements of the Biden plan, and it would be extremely unwise of the Democratic Party to make Biden's ideas the centerpiece of their Iraq strategy," he added.

Today, even Kurds who already have their own autonomous enclave in northern Iraq say they oppose the "Biden plan."

"We don't support establishing federal regions on a sectarian basis. For example our region is not ethnic, it contains Kurds and non-Kurds. The regions should be established on a geographic basis," said Kurdish lawmaker Mahmoud Othman.

Ezzet al-Shabender, a member of parliament from the secularist Iraqi List of former prime minister Ayad Allawi, actually credited the broad-based disgust triggered by Biden's proposal for helping Iraqi politicians bury their differences.

"His project was the reason behind the unity of many political blocs that once differed in viewpoints," he said, comparing it to the Balfour Declaration, a 1917 British note that backed the creation of Israel and is regarded across the Arab world as the ultimate colonial injustice.

"Such a person, if he would assume the vice-presidency post, would not serve to improve Iraq-USA relations."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080823/pl_nm/iraq_biden_dc

-- August 24, 2008 3:02 AM


Roger in Iraq wrote:

Hi all,

Tried to go through all the recent postings, but I have such a short time to do my things now, so I had to skip a lot, I am sorry if I am not updated too well nowadays on all the particulars about the Dinars.

I was again over in Sad'r city last night, and continued with the project we are working on.

The "Russian infuence" that some are fearing here on this blog, is only visible on the base I am stationed at, in the form of acres and acres of old Russian tanks, brought to this base as a "tank grave yard".

We have spread all over this base all kind of Russian military hard ware. As road barriers, there are old Russian tank cannon barrels, as road bumps, we use old Russian tank tracks, and arillery pieces and anti aricraft guns are littered all over the fields on this base.

Most of them have graffitti on them, probably sice some grunt took a photo and send it home, you see along the barrels, the tank turrents, and on any place you can spray paint a message, things like, "I will be home soon", "Sue I love you" and such stuff.

(One piece of graffitti was pretty cool, a tank that had direct hit, totally blown out, with a big hole in it, actually such a big hole that I would say that the whole side of the tank was missing..sprayed on it......"we can fix that".)

Everywhere I go on the roads, I see US presence, trucks, tanks, convoys, and so on, the air is pretty full of noise from military aircrafts, helicopters, drones (UAV's), fighters, and whatnots.

The US military IS the backbone of the infrastucture right now, and until the Iraqis are strong enough, it IS the precence here that dictates law and order.

In the Baghdad area (where I am) I can dial in hardrock stations, country and western stations and all kind of radio that is geared towards the entertainment of the troops, and I bet you the Iraqis are also checking out those stations.

Russian presence is nil, and it's remains are found in the scrap heap of war.

The group of people doing the job we are doing have a fun tendency to call each other by the handle, and I know people as "Easy" "Hollywood" "Bigfoot" , Hazbeen" and "Smallpox".

I am "Jolly Roger"

From our military briefing we get a pretty good update on the enemy situation.

The main upheaval, or insurgency is over, and that counts for the population in itself, they are sick and tired of fighting with each other, and have formed all kind of alliances with us ( and the Iraqi Gov) to stop fighting.

There might be some very small hard core goups left, but they are generally chased down. The intelligence is very good nowadays, the population is ratting out anyone that they know of, that will start a new war.

Some enclaves are still a bit hard to work with, like Sad'r City, but the clean up is well underway.

Sad'r city was a place that in the past was a place no one dared to go into, that was running thair own little armies, and had their own people with their own checkpoints, and completely not under control, now we are in there big time, and are cleaning up the city pretty thoroughly, and it shows, the population is out on the streets, now, and are sitting in their make shift cafes ( and probably are bitching about the US precence). In the past when the fighting was hard, there was even a food chrisis there, people was unable to go outside for fear of getting a bullet in the head.

Latest info is that Iranians have renewed their efforts to let this war go on, and a group of terrorists have been trained and equiped by the Iranians, and are using the pilgrimage that surrounds Ramadan, to move from Iran to Iraq.

So what we are looking at here nowadays,is a 3rd party war, not an insurgency.

Some smaller remains of AlQuaeda is still active, but even if they are a small number, they kill (as usually ) indiscriminitely.

Last action they did was to blow up a party outside of Baghdad, and kill over 20 people, that happened today.

The violence comes and goes in waves, the period just before I came here was very calm, and truck drivers that was doing convoy had reported nothing but a cracked windshield from a stone tossing youngster for as long period as 9 months.

I did in my last report describe quite a bit of colorful events I had experienced here during my first week, but as reports goes, this is absolutely nothing compared to what have been in the past.

"old timers, " that have been here more than 3 years, almost all of them have had a truck blown apart underneath them at one time or the other.

Today when we had the military briefing, and was discussing how to act if we get hit by an IED, the military commander asked the group of (about 25 drivers) how many had been blown up in the past, and there was only 5 or 6 that raised their hands.(all old timers)

I see shops all over, well not exactly Sears, Walmart or Nordstrom, but the business is going.

I can see earth moving equipment that are hauled around on civilian trucks, civilian trucks also are lining the streets, with goods filled to the brim ( they dont have DOT scales here, and when junk yards are moving their junk cars, they put them squarely on the bed of the truck and stack them that way, and you have flattened cars sticking out on the side of the truck, in such a fashion that it uses two lanes just to be able to move forward)

It was so bad in the past during the height of the insurgency, that bigger bases was cut off, and the personell on the bases was eating MRE's, (pre made "Meals Ready to Eat", ...they suck), nowadays the freeways ( if we can call those pothole tracks that) are filled with traffic, and goods are flowing freely.

The main resistance are in small enclaves like Sadr City , but the main body of AlSadrs army have given up on the fighting. They still talk about this fat boy, ..AlSadr, like he is a God, but have found all kinds of reasons why they are not willing to no more go out and fight.

Baghdad Intl Airport, looks kind of abandoned, an international airport is a buzzling place, but in Baghdad intl airport, you can hear the birds sing.

Contractors chartered flights and a few more are doing it's number there, but still the air traffic needs to get going a bit better, and that is straight dependent on the security situation.

Tourism in Baghdad have perhaps a bit more development to do, before that will become a reality.

The country is pretty much a wreck, after all these wars, and very long neglect from 25 years prior to that.

You can really see that the whole country have been trapped in a time bubble, for a long time.

I was in Dubai for two days before I flew over to Iraq, Dubai have all the modern stuff you can think of. I had an observation that if you would take out all the arabic text, on the signs, and put in European or English language, any one would do, you would be smack dead center of any moder western city.

You can go to amusement parks, have your mini golf, go to restaurants, nightclubs, or rent go-carts, you can even rent a race car and drive on race tracks there.

They had all modern cars ( a big portions of Bughatis, Mercedes, and Rolls Royce), all modern busses, well maintained streets, and electronics that covered all the worlds main stations.

From that scenario, coming from one Arabic country to another, straight into Iraq, it was like a time warp took me to medieval times.

Filth and dirt, garbage, and junk, shows that there is no pride in being an Iraqi at this moment of time.

Once the garbage truck starts to roll, and the electric grid is fixed, the water is running, they have got the very bare essentials in life.

As of now, all those very important issues have been hampered by war.

Most Iraqis have found out by this time that a continous war will not solve anything, but will only deprive them of a life, but as it has been such a long thing going, the way of war is almost a "natural" state of existence, and if some smaller groups of extreemists, or Iranian sponsored terrorists are continouing the war, the world may very easy condem this to ...see, this will go on forever, ...they have been fighting for thousands of years, they will never stop....

No it is over, and the reports I have sent in the past, must be read in the context of what it is, I am stationed in the "HotSpot" , and we are dealing with Iranian efforts. Not an Iraqi popular uprising.

There are millions of small generators that are providing the electricity, they are usually small units, that are runned by a diesel engine, and stationed on the street, they have then built a little concrete house around it, and one guy ( or his brother, sister or niece) are always sitting there, monitoring the generator. That generator is his income, and customers then buy his electricity.

Each customer is responsible of getting his cord over to the generator, and you can see from each generator a thick thick bundle of smaller wires that are hanging willy nilly across the streets.

Once ther electic grid is restored, and the electric generating capacity is up to par with the countrys needs, you will see an improvement.

Once the garbage truck is running you will see an improvement, once the water to the residences is established you will see an improvement.Once the road system is built, you will see an improvement.

However, the biggest and most significant improvement you will ever see, is when the Iraqi man get a well paid job, and when his money can actually buy something.

The Iraqi man needs an RV, not a zero lop. A zero lop for him would be a joke, it is the same as a slap in his face, and he dont need another insult in this moment of time.

Competence is lacking in most any field, and most labor is menial, put a brick on top of another brick, but those kind of jobs will in a boom economy be plentiful.

As competence is lacking, may simple business ideas, or concepts are just not real to the Iraqi man right now.

What is real for the common man, is simpler business concepts, but that is as good as anything because it is better to have a little shop in s slum district selling soda, or grilled chickens, than having nothing .

I have seen the Iraqi kids running around on the streets, and have hope that this country will have a future where they can grow up.

The kids don't have anything, but are very happy, and love to wave at military trucks, and I can assure you that a kid here will jump in joy when the military throws out a light stick (chemlight, that is used frequently to mark routes for convoys in the dark) to a little boy on a street corner in a slumcity.

I bet ya, he is happier with that light stick than a spoiled teenager in the US when he gets another version of an IPod.

Gotta go, have another mission tomorrow, and I need my zzzz's.

I love you all.

Roger

-- August 25, 2008 1:09 AM


Rob N. wrote:

Roger:

Thank you for your on the scene reports it is appreciated very much.

All:

I think Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama made a grave error in choosing his VP running mate. Why did he choose Joe Biden? Hiliary Clinton received just as many votes as Barry did but instead of picking Hiliary Clinton he chooses Joe Biden.

Obama has sealed his fate, we must be ready for a McCain and possibly Patreus ticket. A McCain presidency will have a great affect on the Supreme Court; especially if Ruth Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens retire.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 25, 2008 9:25 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Jordan examines possibility of developing Iraqi gas fields

Minister of Energy and Mineral Resources Khaldoun Qteishat said Jordan was searching for alternative sources for natural gas other than Egypt.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 25, 2008 9:27 AM


cornishboy wrote:

take care Roger and keep your head down ;-)

-- August 25, 2008 11:58 AM


cornishboy wrote:

Agreement on the legislation four laws concerning oil wealth

. A member of the Committee on the oil and gas in the House of Representatives Noureddine toward an agreement on the legislation four laws at once.
). He explained in an interview with a journalist about the publication of today, Sunday, that laws are to be approved (oil, gas, Oil Ministry and the National Oil Company oil revenues distribution law for all regions and governorates irregular Province). . He pointed toward that until now has not only received the Parliament a draft law of oil and gas, which reached four without supplements that were installed in the draft law on February 15 and approved by the Minister of Oil.
. Referred to the President of the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq Mosques Barzani Following talks with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki recently announced the formation of a higher committee between the central Government and the Government of the Territory, to reach a consensus on the law of oil and gas before sending the final draft to the House of Representatives.

-- August 25, 2008 12:04 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger!! Thanks for the update. :)
Hugggg!!
Take care and stay safe.
You are in my prayers daily.
I found your statement so very true when you said, quote:

"Latest info is that Iranians have renewed their efforts to let this war go on, and a group of terrorists have been trained and equiped by the Iranians, and are using the pilgrimage that surrounds Ramadan, to move from Iran to Iraq. So what we are looking at here nowadays is a 3rd party war, not an insurgency." (end quote)

I think that the majority of people over here think of Iraq and insurgents.. not of Iraq fighting IRAN. That is due to the MSM coverage of the events with their fawning over the Iranian President and cowtowing and sucking up to the Iranians, along with their dispising President Bush and his stand against terror and terrorist sponsoring nations. They just love anyone with no backbone.. like "Barry-O" - but the average American, if they can see through this smokescreen, is not gutless and lacking moral insight like the media are. They tend to call a spade.. a spade, and not whitewash the enemy (ie Iran, Castro, etc, etc.).

Speaking of Castro - did you see the pictures (much circulated) of Castro's pic hanging prominently on the wall of TWO offices of Barry-O's HQ? Of Course, some patriotic Americans took exception to the HQ of Obama hanging up a portrait of a Communist terrorist and murderer and they forced them to take it down in time, but it was an interesting and noteworthy story for the fact of how Barry-O mollycoddled terrorist sympathizers within the ranks as no Republican would ever have been allowed to do by the MSM press. (So much for the watchdog media.) Even if the controversy remained only in the blogosphere - as with the beginning of the Edwards story - (but it didn't catch on as "newsworthy" by the MSM) it had much to teach us about a potential "Obama" Presidency. In the end, the blogosphere finally shamed Obama into removing the hateful flags from HIS offices:

SEE BOTH PICS:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqdvfWS
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxfoSd9

Here is that story:

MSM Remains Incurious About Obama Volunteer With Che Guevara Flag
By P.J. Gladnick
February 14, 2008

PIC ONE:
www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqdvfWS

Imagine the uproar in the mainstream media if it had been discovered that a supporter of a Republican presidential candidate had a picture of Augusto Pinochet in his campaign office. Chris Matthews would feel a bolt of outrage running up his leg as he called upon the candidate to denounce his supporter. So what happens when a Barack Obama supporter hangs a Cuban flag with the image of Che Guevara superimposed upon it? A collective yawn from the MSM. However, this video showing a clip from a Fox News 26 report of the opening on an Obama campaign office in the Houston area has stirred up quite a bit of controversy because of that Che Guevara flag hanging on the wall.

The woman in the red pants and in the photo above is Maria Isabel who was later questioned about that Che Guevara flag. Here is the transcript of the interview but to fully appreciate her incredible squirming under pressure you need to see the video:

REPORTER: ...flag or aware of that...

ISABEL: I don't listen to the internet. I don't watch the news. I'm sorry. I'm just on the news. I just don't watch the news.

REPORTER: Do you think it is something that has been blown out of proportion?

ISABEL: Uh, what is it?

REPORTER: The Cuban flag. Having a Cuban flag out of the office.

ISABEL: It's a distraction. I don't have time to talk about the Cuban flag. There is so much going on. This whole town is just bursting at the seams. My phone won't stop ringing. America wants a change and they really trust Obama and everyone seems to think, that I'm talking to, that Obama can bring that change and it's just awesome. It's just...I am so proud of the people of ...um, everywhere. That people are voting for...

REPORTER: In order to give yourself a chance to respond because there has been a lot of criticism out there...

ISABEL (interrupting): I don't have time to talk about the flag...

REPORTER: What is your connection to Cuba?

ISABEL: I am Cuban. I was born there. Cuban-American.

REPORTER: So do you see a problem with...

ISABEL (interrupting): I don't to talk about...I am so busy really. You want to talk about the Cuban flag? Uh...(nervous laughter)...and I am really busy. I have an appointment in about a half an hour. And I got to talk to these people here. My posse.

REPORTER: But do you realize that there are over 2000 blogs angry at you right now?

ISABEL: Uh, I don't have time to talk about that right now. And I don't pay any attention to that. I'm sorry. You know what? You need to call my publicist. There is someone in charge at cammes (?) that can talk to you about that. Okay? Got to go!

REPORTER: Do you want to apologize though?

ISABEL: Apologize about what?

REPORTER: Do you think it was a poor judgement?

ISABEL: I think this is a waste of time. That this is a...

At this point Isabel took off her mike and walked off the interview. A bit of investigation online of Maria Isabel shows her to be no mere obscure Obama volunteer who made an "error" in hanging that Che Guevara flag on the office wall. In fact, Isabel has been flying (at least until this controversy) a larger version of that Che Guevara flag from the balcony of her apartment according to the Houston-based Rice Crispy Blog.

One wonders if Maria Isabel ever considered just how much property rights she would have had she remained in the Cuba of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.

Although the MSM continues to ignore the controversy stirred up by Maria Isabel, you can find in-depth coverage of this issue at the Babalu Blog. Once again, the blogosphere leads where the MSM fears to tread.

Comments:

1) Is there more than one office with the Flag? by Dee Bunk

This picture looks different than the other one I saw. Isabel is an idiot just like many of Obama's blind followers. They cling to charismatic figures like Che Guevara and Obama with no real understanding of them.

2) Che' by Mr. Terry

Che' was a revolutionary, guilty of killing many of his own people with Fidel. What he did was criminal. The left cannot even conceive that a flag like that is out of the ordinary. I would really, really like to hear B. Hussein Obama specifically address this flag issue. He never says anything, have you noticed?

3) Che Guevarra left Cuba by futbolisgreat1

Che Guevarra left Cuba because of a power struggle that started happening between him and Castro. (Before that), Castro sent Che Guevarra to the Soviet Union to make a trade deal and arms deal with the USSR.

While Castro came to the United States after his coup of Cuba and claimed that he was going to be friends with the USA, he had sent Che Guevarra to the USSR to broker a deal with them.

El Che, this monster, was a truly an evil man, if he had the money and man power that Usama Bin Laden had during 9/11, the USA would have seen a lot of terrorist attacks carried out by Ernesto Guevarra and his terrorist friends back during the 60s.

He was full of hate, rage, anger and he murdered hundreds if not thousands of innocent men, women and children because he believed that the ends justified the means. His end was to destroy capitalism in the world, bring down the USA and brind down any government/nation that was not Communist.

His death was poetic justice.

4) This is really sad, the day by DCC1

This is really sad, the day that the American flag is disgraced and flown next to and with equal stature to a communist cuban flag with a picture of a murdering terrorist on it, IN THE CAMPAIN OFFICE OF THE FRONTRUNNER TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

What ever happened to treason?

Terrorists want change too

5) Moron or bufoon? by landshark

Her adoration of Che is even more obscene when you consider that she's Cuban-born.

Um... why, exactly, did your family leave Cuba?

6) Che was as hard-core or even worse by Don Miguel

Che was as hard-core or even worse than Castro. He was Castro's chief executioner and liked to sign some orders as "Stalin II." You can read in Che's own words that he was a communist even before they took over. Look up what he said at the UN when he and Castro went to NYC right after they took over with their dictatorship.

7) Hatred as an element of by rbosque

"Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become ..." - Che

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/02/14/msm-remains-incurious-about-obama-volunteer-che-guevara-flag

I found that last quote interesting.. in light of how the left peacenik (peace-at-all-costs, appeasement) camp supports Obama.. AND the terrorist/revolutionary Communist supporters who adore such people as Che who advocated turning people into cold-blooded killing machines (IRAN fits here, too, with their "death to the infidel" beliefs and suicide bombers, yet the left and MSM fawn over them). These who fly their Communist flags in Obama's offices - are also given a place in Obama's camp. Quite a motley crew follow his empty promises of "change" - since he cannot bring bloody revolution and appeasement all at once.. or can he?

Sara.

-- August 25, 2008 12:45 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Great to hear from you, Jolly Roger. For the people on this site, you are the "eyes and ears on the ground".

You say the insurgency is dying down. I guess Iraqis would rather be rich, than die. Good choice. I guess they would rather live like their rich cousins in Dubai, down the road. My wife's brother lives in Doha, Qatr, and he says they are very modern as well. I guess thoughts of owning modern sports cars and nice apartments and having fat bank accounts will win the war, as much as guns. It's hard for Al Sadr to compete with that, for attention.

What you described, the devastation, and neglect for 25 years, is of course, coupled with Iraqi oil wealth, the biggest business opportunity in the world. I read that the cost of rebuilding Iraq will be $300 billion. You are seeing that three hundred billion up close.

Great to hear from you.

-- August 25, 2008 12:50 PM


Sara wrote:

And part two:

The Obama Flag Flap
By Bob Owens
February 12, 2008

The blogosphere began buzzing yesterday afternoon because of a Cuban flag superimposed with a picture of Che Guevara that was flown in an volunteer, unofficial office for Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama in Houston, Texas, captured by a local Fox News affiliate.

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxfoSd9

Allahpundit likened it yesterday to be the equivalent of flying a Timothy McVeigh flag in a John McCain office, and noted that if that had occurred, media outlets would have more than likely made more of an issue of it than they have in this instance.

I think James Joyner's take on the issue is even-handed, in that:

...Che is a terrorist who shouldn't be honored by decent people. Che worship (or, alternatively, the wearing of Che t-shirts as a statement without the slightest clue of who he was) seems to be a phase that certain left-leaning activists go through in their youth; it generally passes. Driscoll's characterization of it as "juvenilia" is spot on.

For reasons I'll certainly never understand, a contingent on the fringe left does and has long had a special affinity for this particular terrorist, but what the flag may come far closer to representing is the historical cluelessness of some potential voters, and the sad flocking to cults of personality by those who feel politically marginalized.

There are many people who feel politically lost who will flock to those voices that offer seemingly easy "change," whether that voice offers workable solutions or empty platitudes.

Considering that this story is largely confined to the blogosphere at this moment, there is probably very little desire in the official Barack Obama campaign to issue a statement against the displaying of this terrorist-hyping flag in a volunteer office. It is rather sad that the Obama campaign is in a position where it had to decide whether denouncing a terrorist is a smart move, but when a candidate runs on a platform offering so little substance or experience, being quiet and vague is perhaps precisely what they are counting on.

Comments:

1) OBH is offering Chenge. by jm1656

OBH is offering Chenge.

2) DNC = KKK? by ArchConservative

Is it a surprise the (d)ems support terrorists? Not really. Look at everything that they are doing against our troops here (Mayor of Toledo, Pelosi, Berkeley, Reid....) and abroad (trying to end the war before it's won).

This is the same party that allows a certified, dyed-in-the-wool, Grand Kleagle (sp?) of the Klu Klux Klan to be a senior and honored member. It's just one more thing that makes us bang our head against the walls. And they think that we are racists?

You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.

3) Liberals demanded by futbolisgreat1

Democrats, Liberals demanded an apology from VP Cheney for visiting a home which had a small Confederate flag on a garage window. The media went crazy and so did the Liberals.

With stuff like this, it is not lowering ourselves to demand the same apology from Obama that he and other Liberals demanded from Cheney.

4) 2 different offices in houston by connorin

Please Note...

The flag was shown in two separate Obama offices in the Houston TX area.

5) I can't disagree more with by futbolisgreat1

I can't disagree more with the author of this piece because it is impossible!

1) Che Guevarra was a terrorist, his whole purpose in life was to destroy the United States of America, Capitalism and anyone who got on his way.

2) Have you read any of his papers, letters, etc? the man was as bad or worst than Usama Bin Laden!

3) Obama does need to apologize for this, why? Does he not want to be President of the United States? As far as I know, haven't Liberals been telling us that the buck stops with President Bush? That he should know everything and anything that is going on in his administration and he doesn't know he is incompetent? So, why be any different with Obama? This is his campaign workers, they represent him, thus it falls on him to come out and apologize.

He wants to be President, he needs to prove it beyond the pretty speeches, the empty promises and his whole ridiculous populist message.

4) Wasn't the media, the Liberal blogs, etc going crazy just a few weeks/month back because VP Cheney visited a home which had a tiney Confederate flag on its garage window? Did they not demand an apology from VP Cheney?

Until we Republicans and Conservatives learn to fight fire with fire, the Democratic party will always have a better marketing, PR, media campaign.

Barack Obama needs to take responsability for his campaign actions, apologize and demand that that flag be taken down immediately. And those campaign workers/volunteers need to go.

Ignorance and stupidity are not accepted as a defense in a court of law.

5) If it's his campaign by motherbelt

I wasn't Cheney's flag either, but Sharpton insisted he should have left the premises immediately upon knowing it was there.

If it's Obama's campaign headquarters, even unofficial, he is "connected" to it. Comeon, you know darn well that if it were a Republican office anywhere, there would be hell to pay, whether or not it was his flag, his office, or anything else.

Re the two offices, didn't it say this one was an "unofficial" volunteer office? That means his campaign might not be paying for it. But even at that, if there were even that tenuous connection to a Republican, Sharpton would be down there parading outside.

Well, maybe not; liberals don't seem to have a problem with Che.

Half these idiots don't even know who Che Guevara was...all they know is that he was "cool" because he was a long-haired hippie "revolutionary"....He stuck it to the MAN.......

6) I think you are pulling a by Roger the Shrubber

I think you are pulling a Stretch Armstrong comparing the two. Should the Vice-President's limo swerve off the road to avoid a pick-up with a Confederate Flag license plate on it, and then apologize to being on the same road as that evil flag? You are being silly.

Obama has control of HIS campaign offices. Cheney does not have exclusive control every environment he is in (but I think Karl Rove is working on a machine to remedy that).

Sure, this is partisan. But the Hopeful Changer keeps looking like a rookie when he does stupid stuff like this. Symbolism is muy importante when it comes to the president. Overt displays of Communism/Socialism does not fly well in the USA. At least beetween the coasts.

7) I would imagine there are by Roger the Shrubber

I would imagine there are some sort of guidelines that should be followed when campaign offices are opened. I would assume posters of naked chicks or dead babies might be considered distasteful.

Like I posted yesterday, The Hopeful Changer is making quite a few rookie mistakes

Rookie mistakes are magnified, and the negative results magnified when you are the president. Like it or not, this makes Obama look "un-American".

8) Apologize? by iveseenitall

B.O. apologize? Not a chance. "Liberals" do not apologize. Moreover, this clown wants to CHANGE America. He says it a thousand times a day. He's quite up front about it. He wants to change the America that let him into Harvard, the America in which he has become rich and powerful beyond his expectations, the America that is well on its way to achieving all his hero MLK dreamed of. All Americans should take stock of their lives, appreciate this nation and everything it has to offer them. Do they really want to change it? They better be careful what they are wishing for. I remember watching t.v. as a little boy. A guy named Castro was preaching to the masses in the same way B.O. is doing today. B.O. is a revolutionary, you betcha!--a Castro-like "leader" who'll take away your freedoms. And just as in the 50's in Cuba, millions of lambs again are going to slaughter. Watch out, America.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

9) Viva Leftistas! by Santino Corleone

Wasn't there a big flap last year when Dick Cheney's country club had a confederate flag hung somewhere? If I'm not mistaken this story was carried by all of the MSM and commented on by many civil rights leaders. In an age where the mere picture of a noose gets people fired and halloween decorations forcibly removed due to the painful, racially charged imagery it conjures, how can a flag of a mass murdering communist slip by as a "no big whoop"?

I'll tell you why...because we have been continuously bombarded with guilt over any blemishes in American history (real or contrived) by our education system, the MSM and Hollywood. Conversely, "freedom fighters" like Guevara, Castro and now Chavez are patronized and glorified.

10) Liberals will never be by rbosque

Liberals will never be apologetic about Che. He was a murdering sociopath and an avowed enemy of the U.S. He's a darling of the left.

He was put in charge of the execution squads in early 1959. He stayed in charge of the prison where most of the executions took place in Havana. And in the months he was in charge there, about four months until July 1959, the estimates run from 500 to 1,182 men and boys sent to the firing squad without due process.

And the left howls about GITMO???

11) This Just In by deerjerkydave

This just in, Joe Klein just called Che Guevara a moderate*. Controversey averted. Whew!

12) The point is.... by LCT688

The point is not whether or not BO had knowledge of the flags, it's that this is the dangerous mindset of the kind of people he would bring into his administration. And an open invitation for the Cuban-American population to go berzerk on his sorry a**.

"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one." - Alexander Hamilton

13) that's the kind of people who like Obama's ideas by szamp

Obama will say that the flag has nothing to do with him but his actions and ideas atract the anti-american crowd. That's the kind of people who will be in power if he wins anything. They will make sure that all our history and the accomplishments that we are proud of are erased from the records.

14) Well you have to admit..... by motherbelt

Well you have to admit.....

Che did advocate "change"......

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/bob-owens/2008/02/12/obama-flag-flap

-- August 25, 2008 1:10 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Merrill Lynch sees revaluationPublished: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 01:26 AM Doha Time

MERRILL LYNCH says it remains bullish about medium-term GCC currency revaluations against the US dollar given high inflationary pressures in the region.
“We remain of the view that the dollar peg is not sustainable over the medium term,” Merrill Lynch says in a note.
“We expect Kuwait to let the Kuwaiti dinar appreciate further, while the UAE is a clear near-term candidate for revaluation and move to a basket similar to Kuwait,” it adds. – Zawya Dow Jones
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=237723&version=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56

-- August 25, 2008 2:00 PM


cornishboy wrote:

Opening Statement of Chairman Bill Delahunt
At a Joint Hearing of the
Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight
And the Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia

“Can Iraq Pay for its Own Reconstruction?”
March 27, 2007
This joint hearing of the Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight, and the Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia, will come to order.

Before the invasion of Iraq, Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki predicted that hundreds of thousands of troops would be needed to pacify the country. Then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz dismissed Shinseki’s estimate as “wildly off the mark.” Well, we now know that General Shinseki was right. And it was Wolfowitz who was wildly off the mark.

That’s not the only time Wolfowitz was “wildly off the mark.” Exactly four years ago today, Wolfowitz told Congress that – regarding the cost of rebuilding Iraq after the American invasion – “There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money…We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.”

To the contrary, the US has spent almost 20 billion dollars of the American people’s money in reconstructing Iraq. Not to mention hundreds of billions fighting an insurgency that the Administration was unprepared for. Furthermore, it forgave an additional 4 billion dollars in Iraqi debt to the US that the Reagan and Bush Administrations loaned to Saddam Hussein during his war of aggression against Iran.

Now we hear the President requesting the Congress to appropriate almost another 4 billion dollars for Iraqi reconstruction. I think it’s important to note that most other countries that have given assistance to Iraq have insisted that their aid be provided in the form of loans, not grants. But not the US. All of our assistance is being given as grants. In fact, when Congress voted in 2003 to require that this assistance be provided as a loan -- and I would note that both Mr. Rohrabacher and Mr. Pence agreed with that proposal -- President Bush threatened to veto the bill. So the then-Republican-Congressional leadership stripped it out

And now we are being asked to give – not loan – an additional 4 billion. While our national debt is in excess of 8.8 trillion dollars. And we’re running enormous budget and trade deficits. And the White House is proposing 66 billion dollars in cuts to Medicare.

I am unable to comprehend the rationale for why the Administration insists on providing this assistance in the form of grants instead of loans. Particularly when I hear that the Iraqi government has almost 12 billion dollars on hand.

Now, I recognize that we have a moral obligation to the Iraqi people to help repair the damage resulting from our invasion and occupation of their country. And the President said in January that the Iraqis will commit 10 billion dollars of their own money for reconstruction. But if the Iraqis have the resources to finally fulfill Wolfowitz’s prediction and pay for their own reconstruction, why aren’t they using all of their available money? And why is the Administration committing more American taxpayer dollars as grants to pay for what the Iraqis could pay for? Americans need help too.

That is what we hope to begin to address with this hearing today. And with that, I will turn to my friend and colleague from California, the Ranking Member of my Subcommittee, for any opening comments that he wishes to make. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/congress/2007_hr/070327-delahunt.htm


-- August 25, 2008 2:10 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 25, 2008 3:25 PM


Sara wrote:

This is a really cute new AD released today and featuring a Hillary delegate.

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=597YG23mAWs

New McCain ad targets Hillary voters: “Debra”
August 25, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

If anyone doubted that John McCain would target disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters, his new ad should convince the holdouts. The new spokesperson for McCain has some experience campaigning — she campaigned for Hillary and was an elected delegate for her in Wisconsin until she got a little too vocal about her dislike for Barack Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=597YG23mAWs

QUOTE:

I’m a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President.

Now, in a first for me, I’m supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he’s the one with the experience and judgment.

A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!

==end quote==

Debra Bartoshevich made national headlines when she publicly announced her support for John McCain after Obama won the primaries. The Wisconsin Democratic Party kicked her out of the state delegation for her apostasy, which led to her offended appearance on a local TV station.

Comments:

1) I’m a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President.
Now, in a first for me, I’m supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he’s the one with the experience and judgment.
A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!

Change you can BELIEVE in…. - sven10077

2) The ads will change after the convention.

In the meantime, McCain is having a little fun (look at his smile in this ad at the end) with it.

Which only seems fair since Obama tried to tar him as a racist, which personally pissed me off. Do a little research Obama, McCain has a black daughter. - ArmyAunt

3) Good News: My wife (a Democrat) and I (a Republican) filled out our change of residence voter registration cards over the weekend. We are both planning on voting for McCain.

Bad News: We live in South Carolina, which isn’t exactly a battleground state. - BohicaTwentyTwo

4) Maverick’s last few ads have been outstanding. As far as targeting a demographic goes, this one is pure gold. It isn’t negative at all, and Debra is cute, playful, charming and…she’s right. - Pablo

5) Fully half of the Dem electorate, or approximately 25% of the total electorate, are Hillary supporters. This ad is a great way to invite them to vote McCain, and it’s going to be effective, especially against a candidate who is mostly a cipher and who the more people get to know about him, the less they like him. - Pablo

6) I like the ad. I live in Northeastern New Jersey. I know a lot of Hillary people that said they will vote for McCain in November. They really hate the way the Clintons were treated during the primaries by the DNC and the MSM. They even started watching Fox News!

This is serious business for the election. McCain is going to get a lot of Hillary votes and may come out winning blue states. McCain just opened an election office around here. This is the first time a republican has done so since Reagan. - jencab

7) The primary reason Rodham’s supporters will have no reservations voting for McCain is that there voting records aren’t dissimilar. Ann Coulter has established that fact in spades without rebuttal. Nobama has been revealed to be so far left that many voters, many who voted for him in the early primaries before the truth starting coming out (e.g. Black Liberation Theology; William Ayres; etc.) will easily switch to McCain. That’s why you see no bounce in the polls no matter what Nobama does now including tour Europe or nominate Sloe Joe Biden. There are no undecideds left. Only converts, and the more Debra is out in front, the more shall see the light. - sbynyc

8) McCain hardly needs “most Hillary supporters.” Indeed, he only needs a small fraction. More specifically, a small fraction in three states where all the people have accents remarkably similar to Debra here.

And these people are hardly typical liberals and they have about zero in common with Barry The Divine.

This was a great ad. Debra’s got a fun and playful presence about her and it strikes just the right tone.

So far, McCain’s beating Barry in the ad wars. - Typhoon

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/new-mccain-ad-targets-hillary-voters-debra/

-- August 25, 2008 3:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Roger and Board;

I am still mulling your on-the-ground statement and viewpoint, Roger.. that a "homegrown" insurgency is not the concern in Iraq, but IRAN is. I mentioned in my last post to you that this information of yours is not forthcoming from the media in their coverage of Iraq.. Nor do they seem to be acting or honoring American interests in their coverage, but instead they are helpful and sympathetic toward Communists and terrorists. They defer in their coverage (or lack of it) to unrepentant terrorists such as Cuba's Che, Iran's Ahminejad, or the domestic terrorist Ayers who helped launch Obama's campaign:

Maybe this recent Ad says it all:

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY

And this comment from below is probably why the US would be attacked from WITHIN if he were to be President, whereas the US faces an EXTERNAL threat during a McCain Administration:

I think it’s a great ad. If Obama is willing to associate with a domestic terrorist, he’s not going to be exactly hell-bent on going after foreign ones (or foreign ones that have set up domestically). Does he consider Jerry Ayers a terrorist or a freedom fighter?

Picture of Obama's friend Ayers stomping on the American flag:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVheNVi

==
Brutal: New ad hammers Obama over Ayers
August 21, 2008
by Allahpundit

Ben Smith has background on the group that produced this and helpfully starts the lefty talking point rolling on why this is a "smear", as all conservative criticism of Obama must and can only be, notwithstanding the facts that (a) Ayers is indeed an unrepentant terrorist and (b) he and the Democratic nominee for president are “friends.” The group’s spokesman, Christian Pinkston, said, “The idea here was to talk about the fact that his friends hate America, and that’s who he’s aligning himself with.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY

Update: I wonder if Obama will roll out his VP announcement sooner than expected to push all the new attacks into the back pages.

Update: I’ve made these same points in other posts about Ayers but it’s worth repeating them now. From Ace:

Does Obama support domestic terrorism? Oh, I doubt that. But let’s also get it on the record, too, that his friendship with Bill Ayers surely must indicate he’s not exactly repulsed by it, either.

That’s an awful lot to get past.

How many unrepentant rapists have you personally befriended in your adult life, Michael? How many convicted but proud murderers? How many such repellent creatures have you found so charming that you could easily put aside qualms about their past crimes to become fast friends with them?

All of this punctuated, of course, but a reminder of how decidedly un-despicable the left would an ad along these lines targeting a conservative who was palsy walsy with an abortion bomber.

Comments:

1) The Islamic connection thing is a desperate attempt to deflect from the core message… great ad…
none of these will convert any of the One’s followers, but i’ve no doubt they will raise questions in the minds of the undecideds…
HOO-RAH! - max1

2) I don’t regret setting bombs… …I feel we didn’t do enough

Just words, Senator Obama?

Something about laying down with dogs and getting up with fleas comes to mind here.

Great ad! -Citizen Duck

3) There’s the great unwashed of this country (such as a few of the secretaries at the office) you know, people who aren’t really that into politics who support Obama now. If they watch this, then maybe the would think twice about voting for Obama. You know - ‘The company you keep,’ and all. - wise_man

4) That’s not the unrepentant terrorist that I knew. -marklmail

5) Riddle me this: If the point is to Islamicize Obama for the ignorant wingnut masses, why include any photos of Ayers?

The enemy of my enemy is my un-repentant terrorist friend. - Catseye

6) Did Ayers bomb the Capitol? I thought he bombed the Pentagon??

The Capitol was bombed in March 1971. The Pentagon and other buildings were bombed by the group as well, later in the year.

Here is wikipedia entry showing all the bombings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)

Think_b4_speaking

7) The Swift Boat Vets’ ad and this from American Issues Project.

Kinda funny how stating the facts about dem candidates pulls them down every time. - BowHuntingTexas

8) I think it’s a great ad. If Obama is willing to associate with a domestic terrorist, he’s not going to be exactly hell-bent on going after foreign ones (or foreign ones that have set up domestically).

Does he consider Jerry Ayers a terrorist or a freedom fighter? - Connie

9) They should have included that pic of him standing on the flag. - Brat

I agree. Those pictures of Ayers standing (and also the one of him jumping) on the American flag show him as he is today — still an arrogant, self-righteous, thug who has nothing but contempt for this country. The commercial was good, but it would be better if they had included those pictures. (That’s assuming they were able to get permission to use the pictures).

I hope they’ll also do a commercial about Obama’s and Ayers’ work on the Annenberg Challenge (based on the little information that they’ve allowed out about it). What we do know is devastating enough: they squandered ten of millions of Walter Annenberg’s money (which he generously donated to help improve education), and at the end they had absolutely nothing to show for it. It’s typical of how liberals behave — they take huge amounts of other people’s money, piss it away (with no accountability), and then come back for more. - AZCoyote

10) There are plenty of other petards for Osama Obama to be hoisted by.

Think: no published work available from his law-school days; no public copy of application to Illinois Bar; no list of his clients while “practicing” as a lawyer; no list of real “accomplishments” as a Senator or “community organizer;” no explanation of his ties to Rezko; His long association with Wright; possible association with “Minister” Farrakhan; defense of indefensible position on abortion; “membership” on House Banking Committee; promise to help Kenyan school; favors done for criminals/associates while holding elected office….

And, oh yeah, no official birth certificate released.

I know these are all racist distractions, but what the heck. They must mean something to someone, somewhere. - MrScribbler

11) You’d think it would have occurred to someone with a “funny name” who wanted to be President one day that he should not associate with terrorists. But the ideological love was just too strong to deny. - econavenger

12) Obama has denounced the detestable crimes that Bill Ayers committed forty years ago.

Right . . . and with the same degree of sincerity with which Obama “denounced” his spiritual guide and mentor of 20 years, Reverend “G-Damn Amerikkka” Wright — only after Wright became a political liability for Obama, and only after Obama said he could no more disown Wright than he could disown his own typical white racist granny.

Barry Obama chose to spend years working with Ayers because he and Ayers share the same far-left political views. That’s the truth Obama’s trying to hide from now, and that’s what really despicable. - AZCoyote

13) Over at Politico, a lot of the (lefty) commenters are pooh-poohing this because Obama was only a child when Ayers committed his crimes. But a so-called Constitutional Law professor trying to launch a political career should be more careful in choosing his mentors…unless he actually believed in what his mentors (Ayers, Rezko, Wright) were preaching. Which would make him very dangerous if he tried to inflict these radical views on the whole country!

If Obama had a long record of public service in Congress or as a Governor and had held “mainstream” views while in office, voters might be willing to forgive a “youthful indiscretion” with Ayers. But Obama was a confused, half-abandoned boy who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, who spent most of his adult life in Chicago. He suddenly bursts out of nowhere and wants to be President, spouting vague platitudes about hope and change. It is Chicago which made Barack Obama who he is, and voters need to know where he came from, because how else will they know him? - Steve Z

14) Coincidence?

Socialist Mentors,

Marxists Mentor,

20yrs at a Radical Racist Church, with a Radical/anti-american, racist pastor,

Wife’s never been proud of America,

Unrepentant bomber/terrorist friends,

Crooked real estate deal with felon,

Radical abortionist ties,

How long can the Left keep their heads in the sand? - marklmail

15) I see the same pattern here as with the Kerry “swift boat” ads: The candidate, his campaign staff, and his fawning followers viciously attack the messenger, or even McCain, but never ever deny the facts as presented in the ad. I don’t recall a denial of the Kerry swift boat ad facts, nor do I see a denial of the facts presented in this ad.

If the information presented in this ad is a blatant falsehood, then why do they not deny it? (Ah, but we know why there is no denial…)

The audacity of the truth (about Obama)! - electric-rascal

16) I don’t think it Islamicizes him at all. It would be weird to talk about bombings in the past without linking them to the present bombings. I think it shows a thread that unites them all–hatred of America, and a willingness to hurt a lot of innocent people.

Not over the top at all. In fact, very good. And I’m a former Democrat! - PattyJ

17) Wake me up! Ayers is an obscure sixties radical? I thought he was a distinguished mainstream professor who’s a respected member of the intelligentisia with solid academic credentials and a passion for social justice. -Buy Danish

18) Not to defend the abortion bombers, but most, if not all of them targeted the clinics at night when there should have been nobody around.

The jihadists time their bombings for maximum casualties. - MarkTheGreat

19) There is so much ammo on Barack that they need to start using it. Please let them start hammering Rev. (I feel dirty calling him that) Wright.
Talk about you double standards. If there was a white pol who had a clan member as a mentor, he would not still be in the race or even in the Senate. They would have crucified him the first week. How Barack gets away with this stuff is beyond me. - Geronimo

20) I’m actually quite surprised that no one picked up on this characterization of Ayers as an obscure sixties radical. It’s probably a good idea to parse the rest of response from Barry’s B.S. machine:

He knows that Barack Obama has denounced the detestable crimes that Bill Ayers committed forty years ago.

For the record, this is the sum total of Barry’s denunciation:

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.

Note the emphasis on the Weathermen group, and not on Ayers specifically. By citing the Weathermen Group he attempts to dilute the specific working relationship he has with the unrepentant Ayers.

For those who may be unfamiliar with it, here is the link to the “fact Check” at Barry’s own website, which quotes those who heap praise on Ayers. -Buy Danish

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/21/brutal-new-ad-hammers-obama-over-ayers/

-- August 25, 2008 5:23 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Mark of a Con Man

I said a while back that my first impression of Barack Obama was that he reminded me of a friend in high school, that was very charming, but when you got to know him, you found out he was a con man.

After I said that, it came out that Barack has had many alias. That right there is one of the marks of a con man. He's a shape-shifter. Nothing solid about him. Is he Muslim? Christian? Does he love America? Hate it? He's a politician in the sense that he wants to find a parade, see which way the parade is heading, and get to the front, and pretend he started the parade.

What might get Barack in trouble, IMHO, is a lack of core values. Con men don't have them. They have ruthless self-interest, but that's another matter.

I read a psychological study many years ago that looked at the topic of what sort of person is the easiest to con. Surprisingly, the younger the person, the more easier they were to fool. (Obama's core group) Men were slightly more susceptible to be fooled. And the hardest group to fool were older women. (more life experience and women tend to think about and analyse people more than men do)

That's the group I'd watch, to see how he's doing.

-- August 25, 2008 5:24 PM


Sara wrote:

You know that AD linking Obama to Ayers?
You ought to see it before Obama gets it yanked.. not because it is factually wrong, of course..
because he doesn't want to be "swift boated"... or exposed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY

In a CLOSE race, of course almost half the population could call in to a station advocating for "their" candidate on an issue..
- in this case, with Obama supporters trying to force these ads off the air, and silence any criticism based on fact.
Are we living in Russia under Stalin now?
I agree with this:

"It seems they protest a bit too much," American Issues Project spokesman Christian Pinkston said. "They're going all of these routes — through threats, intimation — to try to thwart the First Amendment here because they don't have an argument on merit."

And this:

"The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.

Sara.

===

Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer Aug 25 2008

DENVER - Barack Obama is striking back fiercely and swiftly to stamp out an ad that links him to a 1960s radical.

Obama not only aired a response ad to the spot linking him to William Ayers, but he sought to block stations the commercial by warning station managers and asking the Justice Department to intervene. The campaign also planned to compel advertisers to pressure stations that continue to air the anti-Obama commercial.

Obama's target is an ad by the conservative American Issues Project, a nonprofit group that questions Obama's ties to Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground organization that took credit for a series of bombings, including explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

Fox News and CNN have declined to air the anti-Obama ad. But by Monday afternoon, the ad had run about 150 times in local markets in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and Michigan, according to Evan Tracey, head of TNS Media Intelligence/Campaign Media Analysis Group, an ad tracking firm.

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama supporters have inundated stations that are airing the ad, many of them owned by Sinclair Communications, with 93,000 e-mails.

"Other stations that follow Sinclair's lead should expect a similar response," Vietor said.

"It seems they protest a bit too much," American Issues Project spokesman Christian Pinkston said. "They're going all of these routes — through threats, intimation — to try to thwart the First Amendment here because they don't have an argument on merit."

Ayers is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002.

Obama also was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a school reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s.

Obama has denounced Ayers' past activities.

"Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as, quote, 'Respectable' and 'Mainstream,'" the group's ad states. "Obama's political career was launched in Ayers' home. And the two served together on a left-wing board. Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it? Do you know enough to elect Barack Obama?"

The campaign's aggressive tactics could draw more attention to a subject the campaign wants to go away. On Tuesday, the University of Illinois at Chicago will make available records of Obama's service on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The group was set up to improve the city's schools. The documents could shed further light on whether Obama and Ayers had a relationship.

The American Issues Project is a 501(c)4 nonprofit corporation. It is permitted by law to air a political ad provided that the majority of its spending is nonpolitical. It cannot accept money from corporations and it must identify the donors that finance its ads in reports to the Federal Election Commission. Pinkston said the group has set aside money to carry out non-election related work to meet the legal requirements. It filed a report identifying Simmons as its sole donor for the ad last week.

In the Obama campaign's own response ad, an announcer states: "With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the 60s, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers. McCain knows Obama denounced Ayers' crimes, committed when Obama was just 8 years old."

The McCain campaign cannot coordinate efforts with outside groups. But the campaign took advantage of being the target of the response ad.

"The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080826/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_obama_ayers_ad;_ylt=A0WTUfCSX7NIUNMALAQDW7oF

Obama wasn't 8 years old when he launched his career at the home of the unrepentant terrorist Ayer's home.. that appears to be why they are linking the two together as having some significance. The article also mentions new information about Obama serving with Ayers on the board of the Woods Fund and also living in the same neighborhood.. AND they mention Obama was the FIRST chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge - a school reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Sounds to me like Obama is pretty cozy with this unrepentant terrorist.. does it matter to you? Should it matter to the campaign for President if he freely associates with unrepentant terrorists and launches his campaign from the home of an unrepentant domestic terrorist who stomps on the US flag? Is it any wonder he would meet with the terrorist country Iran's President without preconditions.. since he does that in his own life all the time? Maybe he will sit on Ahmadinejad's board as chairman after they get better aquainted. What do you think? Is his character revealed here in stark contrast to the American character of McCain the Vietnam Vet who was tortured rather than surrender his principles to terrorists?

Sara.

-- August 25, 2008 10:21 PM


Sara wrote:

Well said, timbitts!
Yes, precisely like a con man.. you have that right.
It is a close race, tied actually, which makes you wonder how far a con man can go in America before someone calls his bluff.

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Gallup Daily: Race Tied as Democratic Convention Starts
Candidates deadlocked at 45%
August 25, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- The last Gallup Poll Daily tracking polling conducted before the beginning of the Democratic National Convention shows Barack Obama and John McCain tied at 45%.

The latest update includes two days of interviewing following Obama's selection of Sen. Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate, and neither day showed an improved performance for Obama. Thus, Obama does not appear to have gotten the same type of immediate "vice presidential bounce" as have presidential candidates in recent years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109792/Gallup-Daily-Race-Tied-Democratic-Convention-Starts.aspx

-- August 25, 2008 10:40 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I listened to Michelle Obama tonight and I must say I am convinced that Barack more now than I ever have that Barack is the token black. After the election, the liberal democrat can claim we have fulfilled Martin Luther Kings dream we allowed a black man to run for President. Senator Obama is no more than fluf with no substance; this election seeks to allieviate the liberal consceince and lift Obama up as supreme example of affirmative action.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 25, 2008 11:20 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Rob N., Sara and all,

I too listened to Michelle Obama. I thought she delivered a really good speech. She has been coached to help her develop a softer side in her image to the american people. She spoke in very broad terms and she stayed away from issues except those dealing with family, community and friends. She worked really hard on her image that she really loves america. I think this speech did what the democrats wanted it to do. The speech was all about image.

The one downside to the speech is that it did not address the issues that affect americans. This democratic convention first night dealt with the feels good emotion very broadly with hope for the future etc. This they did really well... as they took a trip down memory lane.

Sara, I am wondering whatever happened to that lawsuit that that lawyer filed against Obama?. It seems to have gotten buried in all the news.

Laura Parker

-- August 26, 2008 12:45 AM


Sara wrote:

timbitts - a kind of group penance for being supporters of the KKK and the pro-slavery party in the past, I suppose?

Laura - Obviously, this is larger than a lawsuit.. and politics won out over reason. We can't have FACTS being brought to light now, obviously. /sarc

All - Although I don't think lobbying is a sin and necessarily intrinsically evil.. Obama DID make a big deal about it, saying, quote:

"We will not take another dime from Washington lobbyists," Obama said in a speech June 5, repeating a theme he has made a key to his campaign. "They will not fund my party."

So I find it strange he has not made good on those promises.. no matter his excuses now.
Sighh.. just another flip-flop no one will pay attention to, I suppose -
though it was a KEY in his campaign, this says.
Yet another case of "Let's not let the facts get in the way"??
IMAGE is the thing, not facts, reason, reality.. I suppose?
Wonderful speeches at the convention, like the quote above and all those which preceded them -
empty of truth or meaning.. like cotton candy for children.
Perhaps the sweetness is needed, to sugarcoat the ugly tasting and awful truth.

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Money Trail: Lobbyists Gone Wild as Obama Remains Silent
Campaign Reform Groups Criticize Obama's Failure to Speak Up on Convention Excess
By BRIAN ROSS, RHONDA SCHWARTZ, and AVNI PATEL
Aug. 25, 2008

Despite a campaign that attacked corporate and special interest lobbyists as evil and banned their money and participation, Sen. Barack Obama has done little, if anything, about their pervasive, free-spending presence at the Democratic convention in Denver, ethics watchdog groups say.

A spokesman for the Obama campaign, Ben LaBolt, said the Senator could not "make changes to this year's convention" because of the "very late end to the primary season."

As a result, lobbyists are once again spending millions of dollars here on gourmet food, top-shelf liquor and private lavish parties for Democratic elected officials who seem more than happy to play the role of world-class freeloaders.

According to Denver's top chefs and caterers, no expense is being spared.

Kevin Taylor, of the Denver restaurant Palette, who says he is the only four-star chef in Denver, says he is booked to prepare delicacies for more than 100 "high end, hush-hush events."

"The demand is over the top, you've never seen anything like this," said chef Taylor, especially for his signature King Crab terrine appetizer with white champagne caviar.

At the Ritz Carlton Hotel, where rooms for Democratic VIP's are now going for $2,000 a night, the executive chef, Andre Jimenez, says even the room welcome gifts need to be elaborate for the 35 top donors and celebrities, including "the rarest peaches in America."

"It's only for the best of the best that we host here," the chef told ABC News.

"We're seeing lobbyists gone wild," said Craig Holman of Public Citizen, a non-profit group that lobbied for the new ethics law enacted last year, aimed at curbing lobbying abuses.

"Many of the new rules also apply to the national nominating conventions, though the public would not know this by looking at the roster of parties being planned by lobbyists and lobbying organizations," Holman wrote in a letter to both Democratic and Republican members of the House of Representatives.

In fact, one of the country's leading lobbyists, Steve Farber, was chosen by the Democratic party chairman Howard Dean in 2006 to serve as co-chair and chief fundraiser of the Denver host committee that puts on the convention.

Farber, a Denver lawyer, is the founding partner of Brownstein, Farber and Hyatt, one the most prominent and active lobbying operations in Washington.

Farber and his team have persuaded some 141 corporations to contribute more than $50 million to pay the costs of putting on the Democrats' convention.

Watchdog groups insist Farber's presence is a contradiction of Obama's stated position.

"We will not take another dime from Washington lobbyists," Obama said in a speech June 5, repeating a theme he has main a key to his campaign. "They will not fund my party."

"So Barack Obama, who says that he doesn't want to have any lobbyist money in his campaign, is having a lobbyist bundle money from large corporations, many of which are clients, for the convention that's going to nominate Obama," said Steve Weisman of the Campaign Finance Institute, affiliated with George Washington University.

The corporate contributions to finance the conventions are a huge legal loophole in federal election laws that otherwise prohibit corporations from giving money to political campaigns.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5648474&page=1

What happened to "Change" ??
It is just a word.
Do words matter?

-- August 26, 2008 3:16 AM


Sara wrote:

Three senior al Qaeda in Iraq leaders captured in Baghdad
By Bill Roggio
August 24, 2008

Coalition and Iraq forces captured three senior al Qaeda in Iraq leaders behind some of the deadliest violence over the past several years. Two of the men were detained during the past two weeks in raids by Task Force 88, the hunter-killer special operations teams assigned to dismantle al Qaeda's networks in Iraq.

The special operations teams captured Salim 'Abdallah Ashur al Shujayri during an operation on Aug. 11. Six days later, Ali Rash Nasir Jiyad al Shammari was captured. The locations of the raids were not disclosed by Multinational Forces-Iraq. Today, Iraqi forces announced the capture of Mahdi Mosleh al Djeheishi.

Shujayri and Shammari are senior al Qaeda in Iraq leaders and have been "assessed to be longtime members" of the group.

Iraqi troops from the 9th Division captured Djeheishi, who is said to be one of Baghdadi's senior aides, during a raid in Madain in Baghdad province. Six other al Qaeda operatives were captured during the operation.

The US military believes much of al Qaeda's senior leaders have fled the country as the Iraqi security forces, backed by the US, have pressed offensives in al Qaeda's last safe havens in Ninewa and Diyala provinces.

Al Masri and other senior al Qaeda leaders are believed to have left Iraq for al Qaeda's more secure sanctuaries in Pakistan's tribal areas and the Northwest Frontier Province. Al Masri is an Egyptian. By leaving, al Qaeda's foreign leadership has abandoned the Iraqis who signed on to wage jihad against the West.

Shujayri and Shammari, both Iraqis, stayed behind to continue the fight. Rear Admiral Patrick Driscoll, the US military spokesman in Iraq, said Shujayri and Shammari are "two of the few remaining experienced leaders" in al Qaeda's network.

The relentless targeting of al Qaeda’s senior and regional leaders, cell leaders, financiers, propaganda cells, and network of car and suicide bomb cells has degraded al Qaeda’s capacity to pull off major attacks in Baghdad. The terror group is “still able to conduct sporadic attacks,” Multinational Forces-Iraq stated, noting that in 2007 an estimated 300 bombings in Baghdad killed more than 1,500 civilians. During the first half of this year, al Qaeda has been able to conduct 28 attacks resulting in 125 Iraqi civilians killed.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/08/two_senior_al_qaeda.php

-- August 26, 2008 3:29 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Deputy premier, World Bank representative meet on ICI

Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Tuesday , 26 /08 /2008 Time 3:08:43




BAGHDAD, Aug. 25 (VOI) – The Iraqi deputy prime minister, Rafe' al-Issawi, on Monday met with the representative of the World Bank in Iraq, Simon Stolp, and discussed with him the International Compact with Iraq (ICI) and several issues of mutual interest.


Issawi received Stolp in his Baghdad-based office, according to a statement released by Issawi's office and received by Aswat al-Iraq- Voices of Iraq- (VOI).
Stolp spoke about the role that the World Bank plays to support the International Compact with Iraq (ICI) and the Iraqi people in a manner that activates the private sector in the country, the statement noted.

The International Compact with Iraq is an initiative of the Government of Iraq for a new partnership with the international community. Its purpose is to achieve a national vision for Iraq, which aims to consolidate peace and pursue political, economic and social development over the next five years.
The primary focus is to build a framework for Iraq's economic transformation and integration into the regional and global economy.
Issued on May 3, 2007, the compact covers political, human rights, social, economic, and development issues. It also includes a spectrum of approaches in relation with state institutions, human development, financial resources, wise administration, civil services, economic integration and others
(www.aswataliraq.info)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 9:30 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Agreement reached with US on 2011 pullout , says Al Maliki
Agencies
Last updated: August 25, 2008, 18:24

Baghdad: The United States on Monday denied that a final deal with Baghdad had been reached in negotiations on a security pact to end foreign military presence in Iraq.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki earlier said that an agreement to end all foreign military presence in the region by 2011 had been drafted.

"There is an agreement actually reached, reached between the two parties on a fixed date which is the end of 2011 to end any foreign presence on Iraqi soil," Al Maliki said in a speech to tribal leaders in the Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

But, Washington said the deal was still a draft agreement and was not final.

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"What the negotiators agreed on was a draft agreement," said State Department spokesman Robert Wood. "It still has to go through a number of levers in the Iraqi political system before we actually have an agreement from the Iraqi side," and President Bush had to sign off on it, Wood said.

"Until we have a deal, we don't have a deal," he said. He declined to comment on 2011, which Maliki said was the agreed date to end any foreign military presence in Iraq.

On a visit to Baghdad last week US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reiterated that no final agreement had been reached.
(www.gulfnews.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 9:32 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq power generation finally hits pre-invasion levels

Iraq is now producing as much power as it did on the eve of the US-led invasion of 2003 but is still meeting barely 50 percent of peak demand, a senior electricity ministry official said.
(www.noozz.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 9:33 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Kurds warn of "violent reaction" if Iraqi army enters their areas

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A senior Kurdish leader says Kurdish militia or peshmerga will confront Iraqi army units attempting to enter Kurdish areas.

Mahmoud Sinkawi said if Iraqi troops moved into Kurdish towns and villages in order to evacuate government buildings occupied by Kurdish factions and peshmerga they will be met with a “violent reaction.”

The threats signal a growing row between the Kurds who control three provinces in northern Iraq and the central government.

While the government acknowledges full Kurdish autonomy over the provinces of Arbil, Sulaimaniya and Dahouk it is demanding that Kurdish peshmerga evacuate areas falling outside the administrative borders of the three provinces.

The Kurds have exploited the weakness of the central government by sending their militias to control larges swathes of territory particularly in the restive provinces of Diyala, Nineveh and Kirkuk.

The government has demanded the militias leave towns and villages mainly inhabited by Kurds within the administrative borders of Diyala.

The Kurds were issued two ultimatums but both were not adhered to, forcing the army to barge into the region of Qara tappa on the border of Iran.

The troops forced the militias out of the government buildings they occupied. They also controlled government buildings which Kurdish political factions had confiscated and used as offices.

In his warning Sinkawi, the Kurdish militia leader, also alluded to the armed conflict between the Mahdi army, the militia group of the Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and Iraqi troops.

The Shiite militias were forced to surrender their offices to the Iraqi army.

Sinkawi said Kurdish militias will not accept what happened to the “outlawed” Mahdi Army.

A Mahdi Army representative rebuked Sinkawi, saying the Shiite militia responded positively to a government order to surrender all state buildings they were using.

“The Mahdi Army is not the outlaw. The outlaws are those who are refusing to give the government buildings they have occupied,” said Abdulsattar al-Battat.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 9:43 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq signs MoU with UNCTAD

Science & Tech 8/26/2008 6:36:00 PM



GENEVA, Aug 26 (KUNA) -- Iraqi Minister of Science and Technology Raed Fahmi will sign next Monday a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the United Nations Conference for Trade and Development (UNCTAD).
UN spokesperson Marie Heuze told KUNA that the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon will attend the signing ceremony.
She added that the MoU between Iraq and UNCTAD on Science and Technology will open venues for Iraq to best use its potentialities in those fields to serve development plans.
The MoU, she added, will also widen the scope of opportunities by which Iraq can move forward to establish peace and security for its people. (end) hn.hb KUNA 261836 Aug 08NNNN
(www.kuna.net.kw)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 12:13 PM


cornishboy wrote:

found this on a nother forum well worth a look.Originally Posted by dollarsign
I've been connecting dots for a while and the following tells me we are going to be ok. I will list the source followed by the info. , you can check this for yourselves
1/19/2006 BBC News - Debt swap marks clean break for Iraq.
In a dealing room in London, bond traders are getting excited. It's not every day that bonds or debt as exotic as Iraq's come onto the market. Indeed, it's been more than 15 years since that happened.
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MY take - I stopped reading this article immediately and subtracted 15 years from the article date and got 1991, the last time a small oil rich nation had it's currency pulled from the market.

5/28/06 Reuters - Oil could top $105 dollars in a major supply outage.
Goldman Sachs projection that oil prices could top $100 a barrel could be conservative in the current tight market, said a senior executive with the investment bank.
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Three days later on 5/31/06, Henry Paulson, former Chief Executive of Goldman Sachs became U.S. Treasury Secretary. By mid June Robert Zoellick, number Two at the Department of State resigned, and took a position at Goldman Sachs. Exactly one year later, He was nominated to replace Paul Wolfowitz as head of the World Bank. Additionally, look up the bio of the president of Michigan State Univ. During a leave of absence in 2003, he worked with the Iraqi Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, worked on the creation of the NID, and opened the banking system.
Exactly four years later, he went back to Iraq and is there now. Wonder what he's working on?

1/9/07 Wall Street Journal - General Electric confirmed it is expanding its presence in the market for oil and natrual gas services, acquiring Vetco International Ltd's Vetco Gray unit for $1.9 Billion from a group of private equity owners.
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Hmmm, a company that has spent at least half a centruy making lightbulbs, locomotives, airplane engines, and MRI machines suddenly wants to get into oil?

4/21/07 Iraq Business Directory - New findings peg Iraq's oil reserves at 200 Billion barrels. The consulting firm IHS reported that the western desert may have 100 billion barrels of oil.
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My action - who is IHS? At this point I check out their Executive Leadership just to see if any of them went to Yale, Wyoming, or had ties to Mich. State, just for grins.

Stephen Green, Senior VP, General Counsel & Secretary Yale (Bush's alma mater)
Jeffery Sission, Senior VP, Global Human Resources Michigan State (did you check out the Bio of their President earlier)
Scott Key, Senior VP, Corporate Marketing Univ. of Wyoming
you'd think a Sr. VP of Corp Marketing would have a degree in that field?NO, he has a Masters in Geophysics! (Cheney is from there isn't he?)
YOU GOTTA BE LAUGHING BY NOW!
NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, see the pace of events and movement of corporate entities pick up!

5/13/2007 Middle East Oil and Gas Review - Halliburton moves its world HQ to Dubai this week. The offices will be on two floors of Al Moosa Tower on Sheikh Zayed road.

6/11/2007 Middle East Financial News - Goldman Sachs has inaugurated its new office at the Dubai International Financial Center.

6/19/2007 The Wall Street Journal - The IMF announced new rules yesterday to give clear guidance to our members on how they should run their exchange rate policies. The revised decision sends a strong message that the IMF will put exchange rate surveillance back at the core of its duties and rigorously implement rules on exchange rate surveillance going forward, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said.

6/25/2007 President Bush's comment on the approval of Robert B. Zoellick as President of the World Bank.
"I welcome the action by the Executive Board of the World Bank to unanimously approve Robert Zoellick as President of the World Bank."

EXACTLY 1 MONTH LATER!

7/25/2007 Reuters - Iraq's Parliment has approved a draft law that would allow foreign companies to build and operate oil refineries in the country. The law is SEPARATE from the controversial draft Hydrocarbon law.

8/12/2007 Middle East Financial News - Ernst and Young has formed Ernst and Young Corporate Finance, following the issuance of a Category four licence to the firm by Dubai Financial Services Authority.
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Hmmmm, don't they provide the final Audits for the CBI?

Finally folks (whew!) On the CBI site, I clicked on Announcements, then Examined Tender Numbers 13,14,15.
In Tender 13 they need to purchase machines that count bank notes
In Tender 14 they need machines that wrap bank notes, and
In Tender 15 they need machines that examine and detect counterfeited dollar bills. (guess they don't care about fake Euros, Yen, Yuan, Pounds...
Each of these were offered for bid THIS year. Why do you need these unless you are expecting an inflow of dollars?
What would cause such an inflow?

I feel

i feel that you are Iraq, Angola oil output to soar in 2 yrs.

The oil output of Iraq and Angola, two members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), which are outside the OPEC-10, is set to rise over the next two years, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA).

The Paris-based IEA, said the Iraqi export and refining infrastructure can accommodate some 2.4 million barrels per day of production. In Angola, the IEA said crude capacity is seen reaching 1.79 million bpd in the fourth quarter of 2007 and 2.1 million bpd by the end of 2008.

-- August 26, 2008 12:38 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Very interesting stuff cornishboy. thanks.

-- August 26, 2008 1:09 PM


Sara wrote:

Now THIS is AWESOME!!
SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yYlzX2ZOLM

It speaks for itself.. but these comments were excellent also, hence the post:

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McCain ad: “3 AM”
August 26, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

We knew this was coming, didn’t we? With John McCain essentially recycling Hillary Clinton’s questions about Barack Obama’s experience, the 3 AM question runs as the subtext of all of these ads. Why not make it explicit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yYlzX2ZOLM

CLINTON AD: It’s 3 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep. Who do you want answering the phone?

ANNCR: Uncertainty. Dangerous aggression. Rogue nations. Radicalism.

HILLARY CLINTON: I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And, Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.

ANNCR: Hillary’s right. John McCain for President.

Presidential candidates have plenty of material on opponents from primary challengers questioning their policies and previous votes, at least when they aren’t running against an incumbent President (who rarely get serious primary challenges). People point out that Obama can make similar ads if McCain picks Mitt Romney as his running mate. However, the difference is that Hillary didn’t attack Obama on policy, primarily because there wasn’t much difference between them in that sense. She attacked his readiness for the office and his experience — even though there wasn’t really all that much difference between them in those areas, either.

Whether Hillary wants to see herself starring in these ads or not, her statements speak on the record to the unreadiness of Obama to assume this office. McCain can make these statements directly with some impact, but undoubtedly Hillary’s statements will have more, because it’s a statement now against interests. Even when made against Obama as an opponent, it resonated sharply enough with Democrats that Obama only won a handful of the final 20 or so contests in the primary and barely made it to the convention with a lead.

If Hillary used this strategy from the beginning, she would have won the nomination handily over Obama. Instead, she didn’t start attacking Obama until it was too late. McCain isn’t making that same mistake, and he’s not only using the most effective attack, he’s using its most effective spokesperson.

Comments:

1) Great ad and it hits the nail on the head. Obama and his minions will probably issue threats to pull it off the air. We can’t be critial of the Obamessiah. - guitarplayer

2) This is going to leave a mark. LMAO marines for mccain semper fi - Marines for Mccain

3) racists… i’m callig the justice department on you. wah- billypaintbrush

4) I blew cheerios all over my screen when I heard the words “Hillary’s Right.” Effective ad? Yes,

and I’m surprised at the speed by which the McCain campaign is pumping out these ads. -smfoushee

5) It is a great ad that targets Obama’s waffa thin resume without attacking an entire party’s supporters.

Message to all Hillary supporters: Come to our side; we won’t taunt you the way the obnoxious kids… OOPS, I mean Obamanuts do. Grownups welcome. - Laura

6) I think Mac wins this one going away. Obama isn’t getting a bounce at all in over-nights.

No one is watching the party conventions because they are nothing more than 3 hour long pre-paid ads.

Great ad. Certainly a better version of the 3 AM ad. -jencab

7) HILLARY CLINTON: I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And, Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.

Not, “that he can bring” but “that he will bring”

Love the Freudian slip. She knew, deep in her heart, much as she wanted it to be otherwise, that of those three, McCain is most suited to take the White House. - inviolet

8) Beeeeeautiful!

This ad works on so many levels. Keeps those Hillaryites pissed off that she lost out to the empty suit, and reminds them that Hillary really likes John McCain. Reminds undecided voters that of the three major candidates in this race at the beginning of the year, the Democrats picked the least qualified one. Keeps the unrest in the world at the front of the campaign while Democrats are trying to get back to talking about the economy. - rockmom

9) Going after Hillary voters is a good strategy. If McCain can pick up about 20% of them, he wins the election.

Obama’s biggest weakness is his inexperience, and letting a Democrat (Hillary) point it out is devastating. - Steve Z

10) Excellent ad. The McCain team has been very impressive lately.

First “Debra” telling Hillary supporters it’s OK to vote for McCain and now McCain saying “Hillary’s right.”

Message: Welcome, PUMAs. We’re glad to have you. - MarkTheGreat

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/26/mccain-ad-3-am/

-- August 26, 2008 1:32 PM


Sara wrote:

A couple of years ago.. there were not these kinds of tenders.
See how far we have come on Iraqi security?

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Baghdad's honeymoon island, Jazirat AI A'ras, will be developed, privately into a recreational and tourist venture
26 August 2008

Iraq's Tourism Board is seeking investors for the Development of Jazirat AI A'ras, also known as Jazirat Janain, a romantic island in the heart of historic Baghdad, on the Tigris River. The Island is wholly owned by the Tourism Board and is ready for immediate development into a multi-use resort and recreational tourist attraction. The developer will master plan, design, construct, operate, and maintain the Island as a private "for-profit" venture, leasing the land from the Tourism Board.

Each competing Master Developer will submit general arrangement concept drawings as part of their proposal package. At a minimum, the general arrangement concept drawings will include: one six-star hotel; one five star spa/resort; one four star club/resort; one four star resort and conference center; an 18 hole golf course with country club; helicopter landing zone; riverfront park; recreational boating docks; children's water park; cross-island expressway; thematic shopping bazaar; a site for highly exclusive "build-to-suit" executive residences capable of supporting eight luxury estates and ten executive mini-estates; designated space for infrastructure support; sewage treatment facility; water treatment facility; and power plant, power sub-stations, and power distribution.

Complete development of the Island is expected to take from four to six years, with an estimated cost range between $2.5 billion and $4.5 billion USD. Master Developers with the financial capability and capacity, architectural ability, and construction mastery are invited to compete for this unique opportunity.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080826062635

-- August 26, 2008 1:50 PM


Sara wrote:

This is important though unrelated to Dinar.
BritishKnite and others from Europe should take special note.

If you or one of your loved ones have booked into one of Best Western's 1312 continental hotels since 2007, your information was just stolen by the Russian mafia. How they could be exploiting your information is listed below.

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Indian hacker alleged brain behind biggest cyber-heist
25 Aug, 2008, 1205 hrs IST, IANS

LONDON: An unknown Indian hacker is being charged with the greatest cyber-heist in history for allegedly helping a criminal gang steal identities of an estimated eight million people in a hacking raid that could ultimately net more than 2.8 billion pounds in illegal funds.

An investigation by Scotland's Sunday Herald newspaper has discovered that late on Thursday night a previously unknown Indian hacker successfully breached the IT defences of UK's Best Western Hotel group's online booking system and sold details of how to access it through an underground network operated by the Russian mafia.

There are no details yet on how the hacker was identified to be an Indian and if a probe is on to identify the person. It is also not known if the hotel chain has alerted the police about the heist.

The attack scooped up the personal details of every single customer that has booked into one of Best Western's 1312 continental hotels since 2007. Amounting to a complete identity-theft kit, the stolen data includes a range of private information including home addresses, telephone numbers, credit card details and place of employment.

"They've pulled off a masterstroke here," said security expert Jacques Erasmus, an ex-hacker who now works for the computer security firm Prevx.

"There are plenty of hacked company databases for sale online but the sheer volume and quality of the information that's been stolen in the Best Western raid makes this particularly rare. The Russian gangs who specialise in this kind of work will have been exploiting the information from the moment it became available late on Thursday night. In the wrong hands, there's enough data there to spark a major European crime wave."

Although the security breach was closed on Friday after Best Western was alerted by the Sunday Herald, experts fear that information seized in the raid is already being used to pursue a range of criminal strategies.

These include:

• Armed with the numbers and expiry dates of customers' credit cards, fraudsters are equipped to make multiple high-value purchases in their victims' names before selling on the goods.
• Bundled together with home addresses and other personal details, the stolen data can be used by professional organised criminal gangs which specialise in identity theft to apply for loans, cards and credit agreements in the victims' names.
• Because the compromised information included future bookings, the gang now has the capacity to sift through the data and sell "burglary packs", giving the home addresses of local victims and the dates on which they are expected to be away from their home.

Best Western Hotels closed the breach at around 2 pm on Friday afternoon. Stressing that staff are fully aware of the potential seriousness of the attack, the company reassured customers that it is now taking appropriate action, Sunday Herald said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Indian_hacker_steals_data_worth_3_billion_pounds/articleshow/3400493.cms

-- August 26, 2008 2:02 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 26, 2008 2:04 PM


Sara wrote:

Unity like you can’t believe: Hillary advisers skipping The One’s speech
August 25, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Want to know how well the Unity Fest has worked? So far, the first achievement of Democratic Brotherhood Week is that some siblings have decided they have better events to attend. Senior advisers to Hillary Clinton will not attend Barack Obama’s splashy acceptance speech at Invesco Field on Thursday, choosing to leave the convention when Hillary does:
QUOTE:

A number of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s top advisers will not be staying in Denver long enough to hear Barack Obama accept the nomination for president, according to sources familiar with their schedules.

Clinton will deliver her speech Tuesday night. She will hold a private meeting with her top financial supporters Wednesday at noon, and will thank her delegates at an event that afternoon. Former president Bill Clinton will speak that night. Several of Hillary Clinton’s supporters are then planning to leave town. Among them, Terry McAuliffe, Clinton’s campaign chairman, and longtime supporters Steve Rattner and Maureen White. Another of Clinton’s top New York fundraisers, Alan Patricof, did not make the trip to Denver.

===end quote===

Earlier today, Hillary and Obama put out a joint press release accusing reporters of not knowing the facts when they wrote about continuing and deepening tensions between the Obama and Clinton camps. Perhaps, but their show of unity doesn’t quite mesh with advisers — and fundraisers — bailing out of the historic lovefest at Invesco. What other event could possibly take precedence over Obama’s acceptance speech? Washing their hair?

Their words say, “Unity”, but their actions say “split”.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/unity-like-you-cant-believe-hillary-advisers-skipping-the-ones-speech/

-- August 26, 2008 2:10 PM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

I would like to revisit the rebase article that appeared on the various forums in the last couple of days. The old adage when investing is to follow the money.

We have seen the U.S. government spend 3 trillion dollars in Iraq. Currently we are receiving nothing from this investment. The oil pumping out of the ground in Iraq is not headed for the United States. Iraq may end its fiscal year 79 billion dollars richer.

I site the above maxim to make the point that the United States of America must recoup its 3 trillion dollar investment. I just do not believe that a zero lop of the currency is the method used to for the U.S. to pay for this war. Or, is it the method to bring prosperity to the Iraqi citizen on the street.

I still think we will see the Central Bank Governor deny these claims of a rebase. A zero lop does nothing to benefit the country. Instead, a reversion or limited free float are the mechanisms that can bring the country back to prosperity.

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 26, 2008 3:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Note in this article below, that Obama accidentally introduced his VP as "the next president of the United States."
Freudian slip?

===

Obama flubs the 'presidential' test
His choice of Biden for the ticket reveals that his campaign rhetoric is just empty words.
Jonah Goldberg
August 26, 2008

With Sen. Joe Biden slated to give Wednesday's keynote address at the Democratic National Convention, Barack Obama's vice presidential pick will stay in the national limelight awhile longer. Who among us can contain their excitement?

Not me. I can't wait to hear more from the man for whom brevity is a Rubicon he will not cross. Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you something about Joe Biden, as Joe Biden himself might say: Joe is the guy who will tell the hard truths, say the unsaid things -- literally, not just figuratively -- in order to ensure that he has gone the extra oratory mile. One can only hope that the perpetual motion machine that is Biden's mouth will, like a million monkeys banging on typewriters, eventually stumble on a plausible explanation for why Obama picked Biden, of all people.

It's a leaden cliche to note that the choice of a running mate is the first "presidential" decision a candidate makes. What, then, does it say that Obama's first such decision contradicts the alleged promise of his presidency?

In his career-making speech at the 2004 Democratic convention, Obama ridiculed "the pundits" who "like to slice-and-dice our country into red states and blue states; red states for Republicans, blue states for Democrats." But when it came time to act "presidential," Obama passed on several short-list VP candidates from red states -- the governors of Virginia, Kansas and Iowa -- in favor of the senator from deep blue Delaware.

Over the last two years, Obama's campaign has gone further, investing a great deal in this idea of Obama as a post-partisan candidate who transcends all of these silly categories. Quoting the candidate, the official Republicans for Obama website proclaims: "For the first time in a long time, we have the chance to build a new majority of not just Democrats, but Independents and Republicans who've lost faith in their Washington leaders but want to believe again -- who desperately want something new."

And to feed that searing appetite for the new, the bottomless yearning for the fresh, Obama picked a Democrat who was first elected to the U.S. Senate when Obama was 12 years old and Richard Nixon was still popular. When Biden -- already a seasoned pol -- first ran for president, Duran Duran was still thought of as the cutting edge of music. What happened? Was Robert Byrd too trendy?

And what about all that jibber-jabber about post-partisanship? When Obama, the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate, according to the 2007 vote scoring done by National Journal, picks the third-most-liberal senator, does that count as reaching across the aisle?

Even more flummoxing is Biden's actual record. Put aside the fact that Biden's biggest backers are trial lawyers and credit card company lobbyists (so much for attacking business-as-usual), there's the signature issue of Obama's campaign: the Illinois senator's superior judgment on the war in Iraq. In his months-long battle against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama insisted that his early opposition to the war represented singular proof of his qualifications to be president. But Biden, with his "unparalleled foreign policy experience" in the words of an Obama senior advisor, supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq on the exact same grounds that Clinton did.

So Obama asks voters to value judgment over experience or expertise; but when Obama himself chose someone best qualified to be president in his stead -- "above all, I searched for a leader who is ready to step in and be president" he proclaimed in Springfield, Ill., on Saturday -- he went the opposite way.

Perhaps that explains why Obama accidentally introduced his VP as "the next president of the United States."

Now, of course, we know why Obama really made this choice. He thinks Biden will help with Pennsylvanians, Catholics, men and the working class. And Biden is ready to serve as the kind of partisan attack dog that Obama, until recently, decried as an unhealthy feature of our politics.

That's fine. Except it suggests that so much of Obama's new politics has been just words after all. And with Biden onboard, we know words are one thing the Democratic ticket will never run out of.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-goldberg26-2008aug26,0,754417.column?track=rss

Note that Obama is THE MOST LIBERAL member of the Senate and he picked as his running mate the THIRD most liberal. And this is "moderate"? The media spin about "moderation" is completely false.. they are both extreme and far, far left. Biden is not only beholden to the "old interests" decried by Obama, such as trial lawyers and hated "lobbyists," but Obama has chosen Biden because he would be ready to be President due to his EXPERIENCE, proving that his own asking for votes based on his supposed "judgement" without experience is sheer folly.

As I said before, because Obama has so little experience, the truth is that electing him would actually be electing the old seasoned politicians BEHIND him who give him advice. The Freudian Slip he made proves he knows this - Obama himself introduced Biden as "the next President of the United States" - which he would be if the nation were to vote for Obama. Every time there was a crisis, Obama would turn to Biden for advice and wisdom and experience. Biden would be President with Obama as his proxy. How about the man who the Iraqis loathe because he wanted to split up their country up instead of unifying it as the next President? That is the choice placed before the American voters.

Obama's empty rhetoric about "change" is only words, as his ACTIONS in picking Biden loudly declare. He just wants to be the pretty face which wins, but it is an empty suit without substance, and the VP choice is the substance.. so why isn't Biden the nominee running for President instead? At least he would have the scrutiny of the one who leads, instead of missing it and focusing on "The One".. but perhaps they know that people would reject him because he is all that "OLD" stuff Obama says he is not. People want "change" so they give them Obama as the frontman.. with the OLD politician behind him, pulling the strings. - What a farce.

Sara.

-- August 26, 2008 3:44 PM


Sara wrote:

So how would the US act toward IRAN under Obama?
I think for that we must now look the experienced one, the one pulling Obama's strings - the one Obama introduced as the "next President of the United States" - Biden.
Is this what we want - part of the "change we need?"

===

Biden “Tehran’s favorite Senator”
August 26, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Michael Rubin warns that the foreign-policy “experience” of Joe Biden consists mainly of getting the big questions wrong, especially on Iran. Biden has pressed for more than ten years to open relations between Iran’s hardliner regime and the West, especially in trade. His efforts failed to acknowledge the purposes of the ruling mullahs in Tehran, and Biden helped give them exactly what they needed to pursue nuclear weapons — hard currency:
QUOTE:

Eleven years ago, on Aug. 4, 1997, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami proposed a dialogue of civilizations. The world applauded. Biden spearheaded efforts to seize the mantle of engagement. In September 1998, for example, Biden told the Czech foreign minister that cutting radio broadcasts into Iran might better encourage dialogue. Not long after President Bush declared Iran part of an “axis of evil,” Biden headlined a March 13, 2002, dinner at the American Iranian Council, an organization underwritten at the time by a dozen oil companies and dedicated to ending sanctions on Iran. At the gala (at which Biden also endorsed regime change in Iraq), he spoke of the dichotomy between hard-liners and the reformers led by Khatami. In order to encourage reform, he invited “the elected representatives in Iran, to meet with . . . members of the United States Congress.” Biden indicated that it would not be his first meeting with Iranian parliamentarians.

Fast forward a few years. Khatami left office in 2005 without implementing substantial reform. Between 2000 and 2005, in an effort to engage Iran, European Union trade with that country nearly tripled. Yet far from assuming a moderate posture, “the elected representatives in Iran” allocated nearly 70 percent of the hard currency windfall into military and nuclear programs. The November 2007 National Intelligence Estimate affirmed the fruits of such investment when it found that Iran had pursued a nuclear weapons program until 2003. Although Biden’s embrace of engagement coincided with Iran’s nuclear warhead work, he acknowledged no error. He told reporters on Dec. 4 that Bush had “misrepresented” the intelligence in a drive to war and declared the same day, “You cannot trust this president.”

Such poor judgment was not lost on Iranian leaders. Indeed, one of Khatami’s top aides suggested that they came to count on it. At a June 14 panel with Iranian journalists and political advisers, former Khatami spokesman Abdollah Ramezanzadeh explained, “We had one overt policy, which was one of negotiation and confidence building, and a covert policy, which was continuation of activities.” He advised President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to soften his defiance, noting that: “During our negotiations and so long as we were not subjected to sanctions, we could import technology. We should have negotiated for so long, and benefited from the atmosphere of negotiations to the extent we could import all the technology needed.”

==end quote===

Barack Obama said early in the race that judgment means more than experience. He then proved he had neither by promising to meet with leaders of terror-sponsoring states with no preconditions, a position Obama has tried to retract ever since with little success. Unfortunately, his choice of Joe Biden as running mate proves Obama’s original point that experience without judgment has no value at all, and Biden’s experience hasn’t kept him from the same naïveté that Obama broached in that YouTube debate.

Even the Europeans have dismissed the “engagement” strategy as worse than useless. It was the EU that objected most strongly to the idea of presidential-level contacts without preconditions, as it undermines the approach they have taken for the last three years. Ramezanzadeh’s boasting did not fall on deaf ears, and the Europeans do not want to give Iran the means or the technology to speed their nuclear-weapons program to success.

Unfortunately, Biden still hasn’t learned from his own failures on appeasement. How could he tell the Czechs to stop providing information to the Iranian people? We have often asked why the US does not have a robust Voice of America operation focused on Iran as we did on eastern Europe during the Cold War, broadcasting warts-and-all truth to people who are oppressed by liars and madmen. After the fall of the Iron Curtain, the people of the nations oppressed by the Soviet Union — the Czechs among them — told us how effective VOA was in informing and inspiring them to freedom. Biden’s request of the Czechs is offensive on several levels, and certainly unconstructive in pursuing freedom and democracy as a strategy to deal with the danger of a nuclear Iran.

The foreign-policy experience of Joe Biden looks more and more like self-promotion.

Comments:

1) When will these idiots learn that you can’t negotiate with extremeists whose only goal is to kill you?

Note to Barack HUSSEIN Obama and Joe Biden, in fact, to all looney liberals:

One can’t reason with unreasonable people! - tre

2) Once a liberal decides what the right answer is, he won’t let anything as trivial as reality get in the way of acheiving his goal. - MarkTheGreat

3) Biden was supposed to help Obama reassure Jewish voters about Israel, especially the Jewish voters in south Florida. This won’t help. - Wethal

4) Not just Tehran.

Libya must be rolling in laughter.

The entire world is laughing at the chosen American dunce selection running for election to become “the most powerful man in the world”–no longer so if Obama is CHOSEN to face down Putin or Ossama or a myriad of other destroyers from China, Korea, South America, and within the USA as Obama and Pelosi represent.

Eerie CHOICE, reminiscent of the temporal doom forced upon ancient Christians. Choose from which gate your death fate emerges.

At least give us a decent warrior, wise by the experience of age all the better in the Oval Office.

If McCain has the brains to choose his finest opponent as his running mate, all the better. Seeing the final hour dawning, everyone get in gear.

Do not allow the democrats to bite off our Constitutional existence as we YET have to preserve. It is FOR your existence at home, AND for your children and their children.

Show up and vote the democrats into the minority. Decapitate Marx in the USA. Feed Marx to the guillotine, his black widow mother.

WE WANT CHANGE–DEFROCK NANCY & HARRY! - maverick muse

5) I guess in a political party that awards ‘”foreign policy experience” points simply for visiting a foreign country and holding a political rally there, that SloJoe Biden’s “experience” must seem truly precious indeed. - GeneSmith

6) …(Bush Administration) haven’t achieved anything with Iran

That’s a statement that can neither be proven nor disproven: who knows what would have happened under any other administration or set of policies. Anybody can claim that something is “not working”, but it’s folly to just change to another approach, at random, without any compelling rationale as to why the new policy would work any better. Direct negotiations, without precondition, have been presented as a solution, but so far I’ve seen no argument as to why that might work, other than the weak and highly illogical “what we’re doing now isn’t working”. In fact, the direct-negotiation approach has some wildly (in)famous historical counter-examples (e.g. WWII). I don’t think we can afford to just “try stuff” willy-nilly; the stakes are simply too high, and it’s enormously difficult to undo mistakes. - mr.blacksheep

7) Germany loves Obama.

Hamas hearts OBama

Iran loves Biden.

Perfect.

- drjohn

8) Not long after President Bush declared Iran part of an “axis of evil,” Biden headlined a March 13, 2002, dinner at the American Iranian Council, an organization underwritten at the time by a dozen oil companies and dedicated to ending sanctions on Iran.

I’m so confused. I thought big oil ran the Bush White House and the Republican Party, and only the brave Obama Democrats resisted a total petrocracy. Why, it’s almost as if that’s completely wrong! - calbear

9) Are you claiming the current approach is working? - mycowardice

My apologies; I think I may not have made my point sufficiently clear. And I’m not sure where you get the impression I’m “scared of direct negoctiations.” Please allow me to try again.

A rational person will not experiment at random (”try” things) without some reason to believe that the new approach is going to produce a measurably better outcome than the old (conducting an argument in the comments section of a blog notwithstanding); especially when the stakes are high and blunders cannot be undone. Even people who are so irrational as to stand at a slot machine feeding in dollars will offer some rationale (however illogical it may be) as to why the next pull of the lever is going to differ from the hundreds of others that preceded.

You will not hear me take issue with the proposition that our President should not agree to a deal that is counter to America’s interests. But I’m afraid I just can’t get to the blind faith part. I want to know precisely why Obama thinks his approach would produce a better outcome, particularly considering a well-known precedent that produced a spectacular failure.

If the strength and charisma of Obama’s personality is such that he can work some magic in the minds of our enemies, why does he not work the same magic in the minds of the 50% (or so) of the electorate (and even his own party!) who doubt his credentials to be President? Is it because those people are obtuse and ill-willed? Well, if you want an example of obtuse and ill-willed, you need only look at Ahmadinejad. Is it because they don’t have America’s best interest at heart? Does Putin? Sorry, without seeing this magic in action, I find it hard to believe that Obama’s saving it up for exclusive use on our enemies.

You can probably see where I’m a little confused. So do you think you might be able to explain, in terms simple enough for me to understand, why I should believe that Obama should negotiate directly on our behalf with despotic dictators? - mr.blacksheep

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/26/biden-tehrans-favorite-senator/

-- August 26, 2008 4:21 PM


Sara wrote:

McCain Edges ahead in Gallup Poll Daily Tracking
Aug 26, 2008

For the first time this summer, JohnMcCain (46%) has an advantage over Barack Obama (44%) in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

To see this for yourself:
Go to Gallup.com and click on the link on the main page, "McCain Edges Ahead in Daily Tracking."
It is a video link and those are the words below the video as you are watching.

Sara.

-- August 26, 2008 5:48 PM


Sara wrote:

I tried to shorten the comments on this one.. It is truly excellent. :)
There is a point agrees with you timbitts (#21 on con men).
Worth reading.. it says a lot:

==

New Obama ad: Why is McCain trying to distract us with that unrepentant terrorist I’m friends with?
August 25, 2008
by Allahpundit

Conventional political wisdom demands a forceful response to a forceful attack, but even so, I can’t quite believe Obama would throw fuel on the Ayers thing by running a reply ad. His argument is so weak that it doesn’t really qualify as an argument: Yes, we’re friendly, but it’s ancient history and I denounced what he did, so what’s the big deal about socializing with, um, an unrepentant terrorist? As for the submoronic point about Ayers’s crimes having been committed when Obama was eight — a staple of the left’s feeble defense of him on this subject — imagine what the reaction would be if Bobby Jindal, say, had struck up a chummy pen pal correspondence with Charles Manson while in his late 20s. Think the left might find that relevant to his character? Think the fact that Jindal wasn’t even born when Manson’s crimes were committed would get him off the hook? Of course not, because as even an eight-year-old can understand, the salient point isn’t how old Obama was when the crimes were committed, it’s how old he was when he formed the moral judgment that led him to associate with Ayers in the first place. The response from McCain HQ:

“The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama’s judgment than any TV ad ever could. And the fact that he’s launching his own Convention by defending his long association with a man who says he didn’t bomb enough U.S. targets tells us more about Barack Obama than any of tonight’s speeches will.” –McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

Comments:

1) How is McCain talking about the sixties? Wasn’t the Ayers ad done by an independent group? And the point of that ad is that as of 2001, Ayers still promotes terrorism, and Obama is still friends with him. - El_Terrible

2) McCain wants to talk about it because Obama is running on his superior judgement. How is befriending a terrorist - unrepentant terrorist - exhibiting superior judgement? And his judgement told him to oppose the Iraq war - when he didn’t even have a vote - but he selects a VP who supported the war? More superior judgement from Obama? I don’t get it. - ctmom

3) “Hey, this ‘Karl Marx’ dude you say I like so much, I wasn’t even born when he was around , so what’s your beef?”
Barack slingblade Obama - bbz123

4) McCain: You started your career with and are still friends with an unrepentant terrorist.

Obama: My unrepentant terrorist friend is ancient history. Like you, you uh, er, old guy, you. Old.

Obama should have just gone with “Ayers is not the unrepentant terrorist I thought I knew. I have always said that. This does not help Michelle’s kids. Additionally, it is above my pay grade.” - BKennedy

5) So Ayers tried to kill US citizens when Obama was 8 years old. How old was Obama when he went to Ayers house to launch his political career?

Was Obama older than 8 years old at the time? - wise_man

6) Ayers never demonstrated any remorse except for the remorse that he didn’t commit more terrorist acts.

Ayers was never punished but escaped on a technicality. - Blake

7) Lest we not forget, with the unrepentant ways and wishes to have done even more bombings upon reflection notwithstanding, William Ayers is still stomping the American flag into the mud to this day.

What’s the Obamessiah’s excuse for still associating with that America hating vile filth again? - FlatFoot

8) This ad is a huge mistake for Obama. It reiterates the idea that he was only a casual acquaintance of Ayers and that he really didn’t have contact with him after he was 8 years old. The public knows better than that and with all the info coming out about their work on the Annenberg Challenge it will only make Obama look like a liar. I think that Axelrod is proving that he can’t handle the big time. It’s one thing to get a mayor or governor elected, but a President is a whole other ball game. - Deanna

9) …it’s ancient history…

Hey, Obambi,

WWII ended about 15 years before you were born, but they’re still tracking down Nazis like Albert Heim. Sometimes, people have long memories. - Kafir

10) I put it this way to some libs:

If someone killed or even attempted to kill your Mom, never was tried, never apologized, and in fact said they wished they’d killed your Dad, too…What would you think of me if I befriended the perpetrator even if I didn’t know him at the time he did such a horrible thing? - tdau1997

11) It probably COULD have been “ancient history” if Ayers had made pretty and begged forgiveness. Almost enough time has gone by to have pulled that off…if he’d ever done it. But, since he STILL chooses to be a happy, bomb making/throwing/planting professor of higher learning, it’s STILL relevant. - tree hugging sister

12) Obama keeps saying “McCain is trying to link me to Ayers.”

Earth to Obama - YOU linked YOURSELF to Ayers and did so willingly! Duh! - BostonBeatnik

13) Crimes committed when you are 8 is one thing.

Launching your political career in his living room is another.

Obama doesn’t think it’s a big deal that he’s friends with this unrepentant terrorist and he thinks the rest of the country doesn’t think it’s a big deal either.

It is a big deal. What if McCain was friends with someone who blew up abortion clinics when McCain was a teenager???? - CanadianGuy

14) Next Ad:

Q: What does Osama bin Laden have in common with Barack Obama?

A: They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon and wish they’d done more. - El_Terrible

15) If Senator McCain’s track record of who he was married to when is a legitimate subject (and the MSM seems to think it is), I’d say that Senator Obama’s track record of who he was in bed with and when is, as well.

Especially if said someone believes that high explosives are a legitimate tool of political discourse. And regrets not having used enough of same to make people dance to his tune.

After all, no one in Senator McCain’s circles has ever tried to blow up the Pentagon. That dubious distinction belongs solely to al-Qaeda, the Weather Underground- and Senator Obama’s great good friend and political mentor, William Ayers.

If Senator Obama’s judgment in matters of personal behavior is this flawed, what does it say about his judgment otherwise?

Nothing good, IMHO.

And the fact that he (at least publicly) considers this matter “a distraction”- along with the rest of his previous record- speaks volumes about his arrogance, his narcissism, and his complete lack of judgment.

Three things you generally do not want in whoever sits in the Oval Office. (Two words; Richard Nixon. Two more; Jimmy Carter.)

If the Democratic Party is not experiencing “buyer’s remorse” at this point, it can only be due to excessive use of pharmaceuticals.

My guess is, they’ll need even more before this is over.

clear ether - eon

16) Oh yeah, this was a long time ago…but the past defines us all. Just ask Reverend Jeremiah Wright when he starts ranting and raving about Hiroshima and slavery and God knows what else.

That way back machine only works one way for these guys. - Terrye

17) Another thing I notice from Obama’s ad. The photo of Obama at the age of 8.

I think that McCain should use that image of Obama whenever he can. Because this little kid in the striped shirt is a good metaphor of Obama’s experience. His resume. His political experience and the way Obama sees the world and makes suggestions as to how to deal with things.

Russia invades Georgia and as their tanks roll through the streets, this little 8 year old (mentality) Barack Obama tells them to just get along.

Little 8 year old Obama wants to rid the world of nuclear weapons. And how is he going to do that? Will we get rid of ours first, and hope that if we are nice to foreign powers, they’ll be nice to us and get rid of their nukes? Or will they use them against us, or other people in the world after ours are scrapped.

More bad people in the world threaten their own people and their neighbors? Little Barack Obama thinks that we should talk to them without any preconditions.

This could go on. - wise_man

18) very important point:

Obama was also NOT 8 when Ayers had his picture taken stomping on the American FLAG. - Elizabetty

When little Osama Obama was still playing with his Stalin-Lenin action figures in the backyard, John McCain was defending America from people who wanted to stomp the American flag. - MrScribbler

“The picture that is emerging is that Obama’s anti-American associates would disqualify him for a low-level security clearance—much less election to the office of commander in chief.” - R. Trancinski

19) Hey when Obama was 8 years old he was Praying at an Islamic Madrasah in Indonesia he couldn’t know ANYTHING about that unrepentant terrorist! >:D - Chakra Hammer

20) After her divorce, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro’s home country of Indonesia in 1967, where Obama attended local schools in Jakarta until he was ten years old.

Barack Hussein Obama II born August 4, 1961

so for about 4 years from about 6 to 10 years old Obama played Muslim. - Chakra Hammer

21) Obama and Ayers …. burned through a huge amount of money… with absolutely nothing to show for it. No doubt a preview of coming attractions if Obama is elected and gets to implement all his big-government “social justice” programs. - AZCoyote

This fleece and skim is Obama’s stock and trade.
He has never produced one positive from all his years of promising to do so.
But he sure has cashed in. - Tony Soprano

22) My two cents: The Obama-Ayers ad ran here in SW Ohio all afternoon yesterday. I think it is very effective. The line about Obama kicking off his political career at Ayers’s home is a crusher.

The Donks are the only human beings who think that’s irrelevant. If you know about Ayers already, you just shake your head and wonder why Obama is even in the race. If you know nothing about Ayers (yet), you can’t possibly consider voting for Obama–we don’t elect candidates who associate with the Ayerses of the world to the office of president.

Good luck to Michelle Obama trying to portray Obama as a plain old regular family man. What a joke. - BuckeyeSam

23) You should hear some of the trash being run on the radio in Philadelphia against McCain by some of the unions. So far I haven’t seen McCain’s campaign calling them and pressuring them not to run the ads or threatening litigation.

They still can’t BELIEVE Republicans are not using any racial attacks against Obama. - rockmom

24) Obama’s campaign has written the Department of Justice demanding a criminal investigation of the “American Issues Project,” the vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is financing the advertisements.

Putting aside the usual taunts about HRH “The One” and “ObaMessiah” for a moment, by what authority does the Obammy campaign “demand a criminal investigation” of free speech? - Jaibones

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/new-obama-ad-why-is-mccain-trying-to-distract-us-with-that-unrepentant-terrorist-im-friends-with/

-- August 26, 2008 6:55 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Sara,

Sara, I think you are right. I believe John McCain is going to get elected the next President of the USA.

Hillary did an excellent job on her speech tonight at the DNC tonight. In fact, there was a point that I was thinking "This lady is sounding presidential" by the way in which she handled herself during this speech.

Hillary did herself huge favors politically-- by talking about herself and her values. She called for democrats to vote democrat--- because they are democrats and democrats all share the same values. To vote on the issues was here emphasis.

Hillary's statements had nothing to do with Obama's character or qualifications.... a fact, that was not lost on commentators. The McCain camp was right on target on this point in thier press conference after the DNC.

In addition, a news story broke on the Ayer's story that was unfavorable. A man claiming to want to read the minutes of board that Obama and Ayer's served on together. This man states that Obama was not truthful about his relationship to Ayer's and that they were much closer than Obama wants to admit.

In fact, the gentleman stated that there are indications that Ayer's ran the board and that money spent went into Ayer's and Obama's pocket as "You scratch my back and I will scratch yours" kind of arrangement. Greta Van Suteran stated that she wanted the man to come back to her show after he has read all the information just released to him from the library. The library tried to block his reading of the material until the public got involved and a public outcry came about for the release of the material.

I do not think Obama's campaign is going to be able to stop the material from airing.

Well, in any case, I think Hillary did a great job politically. She looks like she is back him publically; while not really liking him that well.

Laura Parker

This man was a guest on Greta's show and he stated that he had trouble getting to read these minutes because the University of Chicago library would not make these minutes available to him for reading. In order for this researcher to get the minutes, he had to have the public put pressure on the University to get to read the minutes. He states, what he has read is not good. It looks like a "You scratch my back and I will scratch yours" kind of relationship with Ayer's.

Sara, I think this story on Ayer's is going to come out. The media is going to have a hard time getting rid of this as long as McCain keeps running ads on this issue.

Obama has been his own worst enemy.

-- August 27, 2008 1:59 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq says U.S. sought troop presence to 2015
Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:37am EDT

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The United States asked Iraq for permission to maintain a troop presence there to 2015, but U.S. and Iraqi negotiators agreed to limit their authorization to 2011, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said.

"It was a U.S. proposal for the date which is 2015, and an Iraqi one which is 2010, then we agreed to make it 2011. Iraq has the right, if necessary, to extend the presence of these troops," Talabani said in an interview with al-Hurra television, a transcript of which was posted on his party's website on Wednesday.

U.S. officials in Baghdad were not immediately available for comment.

Details have been slowly emerging about negotiations for the bilateral security pact, which U.S. and Iraqi officials say are close to conclusion.

The agreement will provide a legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires at the end of this year.

Earlier this week, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said that, while overall negotiations continued, the two sides had accepted the end of 2011 as an end date for the presence of the approximately 145,000 U.S. troops stationed in Iraq.

The emerging points of agreement reflect the increasing assertiveness of the Maliki government as it seeks to define the future of the U.S. presence in Iraq.

They also reflect the political pressures that Maliki faces at home more than five years after the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein.

U.S. officials stress that no final agreement has been made. A final deal will need to be approved by the Iraqi parliament.
(www.reuters.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 27, 2008 9:51 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq urges talks with Kuwait to solve pending problems
By Mayada Al Askari

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Dubai, 27 August 2008 (Gulf News)
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The Iraqi government has called for negotiations with Kuwait to solve pending problems between the two countries left behind by the former Iraqi regime.

Dr. Ali Al Dabbagh, the Iraqi government's spokes-man told Gulf News that a ministers' council discussed at its regular meeting yesterday the issues to be settled with Kuwait, according to a press release.

Al Dabbagh did not elaborate about these issues, adding that the Iraqi government is keen on maintaining good relations with its Kuwaiti neighbour.

Al Dabbagh called for serious negotiations based on mutual respect.

The Iraqi Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Al Mashhadani announced late last year that he would be travelling to Kuwait to conduct direct negotiations with the Kuwaitis concerning issues between the two countries.

The visit did not take place, although 100 Iraqi parliament members signed a formal request for the negotiations between the two countries to start.

The stickiest issue is the alleged Kuwaiti debt of over $12.5 billion (about Dh45.6 billion) left as a heavy burden on Iraq's shoulders by the former Baathist regime.

It is worthy to note here that the UN cuts 5 per cent of the Iraqi annual oil revenues to go to the Kuwaiti Compensation Fund which was established as a result of the Saddam Hussain's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 27, 2008 9:53 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraqi businessman calling to review the paragraphs of investment law

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27 August 2008 (Iraq Directory)
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The Iraqi businessman and board chairman of Ashur International Bank for Investment ,Engineer Wadee Handal stressed that : promoting the economic situation is possible in case of the economic policy adopted has successful steps towards activating the stock market and to reconsider the investment law paragraphs.

He added: that the Iraq market for securities invited to nominate a neutral assessment of the stock market and thus encouraging investors to rush to the Iraqi market.

Referring to the experiences of neighboring States in this regard, pointing out that markets of Emirates, Jordan and other Gulf States took the range in evaluating the shares so as to ensure the achievement of full transparency by helping investors who want access to the real value of the shares. He reiterated: The capital markets in the region and the world follow this Method to reassure costumers and dealers in the circulation market and expressed his hope for the establishment of Iraq's adoption of market mechanism for the development of performance and encourage foreign investments which have no full idea of stock. And about the use of online trading Handal said: I'm very optimistic in such a sophisticated service if properly used, calling to speed market introduction indicating that the circulation manual method is backward and do not encourage investors to participate in Iraqi market.

Evaluating the benefits of the investment law, Handal said that there was a lack of vision in some paragraphs and that the legislature had to pay attention to the importance of advantages in attracting investors, pointing out that the law on investment in Kurdistan province more sophisticated and attractive to investors. He called the National Authority for Investment to review the subject of its importance in attracting global investments, pointing to the need for large global banks to fund projects and specialized insurance companies to provide right warranty for the investor.

Handal indicated to UAE which attracts 6 million tourists annually and it is expected to rise the number up to 15 million in the year 2010 asserting that there is the Capital calling for safety measures to provide security for companies coming from abroad, wondering where tourism investments in Iraq?.
(www.iraqupdates.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 27, 2008 9:55 AM


Sara wrote:

Thanks for the articles, Rob N.

Laura - Yes, McCain will be the next President. But again.. he is a Democrat, really. Hillary said the base needs to support a Democrat.. and McCain really IS one. He almost ran on the ticket with Kerry for VP.. as a Democrat. He is doing a good job pacifying the GOP base and he has TONS more qualifications in character and experience, so he is the one to pick for President. However, if the only qualification Hillary gave was to vote for a Dem.. her base can vote for McCain with no problems. He can pass off as one of them and is a pretty "moderate" or middle of the road candidate.. the farthest left of any GOPer, a person who would have had "no fundamental disagreements on major policies".. on John Kerry's ticket (see below). If unity of the country and bipartisanship can be attained.. this is the man who will do it. The far right may not think him conservative enough.. the far left may think him too conservative, but most people are in the middle, and I think they will be moved to vote for him, knowing he is middle of the road and will meet everyone half way and work out compromises.. and that he is qualified to defend the country in this time of war (Iraq/Afghanistan) and other grave threats to national security - from within (terrorism) and without (world scene - ie Georgia). Proof of the degree of his bipartisanship.. and qualifications to gain the votes of Democrats? Biden wanted him on Kerry's ticket as VP:

==

Guess who Biden wanted on Dem presidential ticket?- McCain
August 24, 2008

Presumed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has chosen for his running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., a man who once proposed the bottom half of the Democratic presidential ticket would best be filled with an unusual selection: Republican John McCain.

In two separate television interviews in the spring of 2004, Biden suggested the best way to bring unity to a divided nation was for the then-Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, to select McCain as his running mate.

"I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president. I mean it. I know John doesn't like me saying it, but the truth of the matter is, it is," Biden told Tim Russert of NBC's "Meet the Press."

Only a few months earlier, Chris Matthews of MSNBC TV's "Hardball" asked Biden if he thought McCain would consider joining Kerry on a "fusion ticket."

"I think that this is time for unity in this country, and maybe it is time to have a guy like John McCain – a Republican – on the ticket with a guy he does like. They do get along," answered Biden, "and they don't have fundamental disagreements on major policies."

Leading up to the interview with Matthews, McCain expressed on ABC's "Good Morning America" that he might show interest in joining a Democrat on the ticket.

"John Kerry is a close friend of mine. We have been friends for years," McCain told the ABC morning show. "Obviously I would entertain it."

Biden expressed both skepticism that McCain would accept and support for him if he did.

"Do I think it's going to happen? No," Biden told Russert. "But I think it is a reflection of the desire of this country and the desire of people in both parties to want to see this God-awful, vicious rift that exists in the nation healed, and John and John could go a long way to heal that rift."

When Matthews asked Biden if he would support John McCain as VP candidate on a Kerry ticket, Biden said, "I would. Yeah, if John Kerry said that's who he wanted, and McCain – I'd encourage McCain to say yes."

In the latter of the two interviews, Biden even praised McCain's readiness to serve as president. Tim Russert suggested Biden eliminate McCain from consideration and recommend another VP choice, but Biden refused, citing the importance of the vice president being qualified to fill the president's shoes, if necessary.

"I'm sticking with McCain," Biden said. "I think the single most important thing that John Kerry has to do is … to say that makes sense, that guy could be president, or that woman could be president. I think that's the single most important thing for people, when he or she is announced, say that person could be president."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73322

I think the next McCain ad should have Biden's soundbyte from this saying that McCain is qualified in his view to be the President.. along with that statement by Hillary saying he has the experience and Obama doesn't.

Sara.

-- August 27, 2008 11:18 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

I agree that McCain is a Democrat on many issues, like global warming. And you're right: he's very middle-of-the-road, but maybe that's what America needs. America has a lot of VERY big problems to solve, like Social Security, the Energy Crisis. I don't think one person on either extreme, either too liberal or too conservative, could bring people together to solve the tough challenges ahead. McCain should be president.

I find it interesting that Brian Schweitzer, the governor of Montana, a state just below Alberta, was addressing the Democratic Convention yesterday, on solving America's energy crisis. He was dressed like a cowboy, with a plaid shirt and cowboy bola tie, which I found amusing.... I think I was right in the past in saying energy will be the number one issue this election. The governor really got the crowd worked up, cheering for energy independence for America, as a goal.

At $4 a gallon, and people hurting, having to pay high gas prices, it would be hard for energy NOT to be a big issue. It's one of the things people feel immediately every day.

So the Democrats have bought into energy independence as a goal. And John McCain has been basically saying the same thing as the Democrats: America needs to develop all sorts of alternative sources of energy.

So whoever America elects will obviously move America strongly toward a green economy. It will be sold to liberals and enviromentalists as a green approach, which it is, since alterative energy tends to be far lower in CO2 emmissions than oil. It will be sold to right wingers as a way of stopping sending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to countries that hate America and want to destroy it.

So when it comes to energy policy, I don't think it makes much difference, if Democrats or Republicans are elected. Even on offshore drilling, Obama, who started out firmly against it, now says, "limited drilling", which means the same thing the Republicans want.

And on Iraq, Obama was interviewed the other day by Fareek Zakaria, and Obama said their would be a residual force left in Iraq, under his administration. Obama refused to specify the size of the force. And I think this means Obama's policy on Iraq won't be much different from McCain's: both will allow the Iraqis to govern their own countries, but will maintain long-term military presence there. Now, both McCain and Obama have said no to long term military bases in Iraq, but that means no to forcing the Iraqis to accept them. My guess is the Americans will be invited to stay on, in Iraq, to help stabilize the country. American soldiers will just generally keep to their bases.

It's going to take a couple of years for the Iraqi government to fully trust American intentions. As you know, probably by next summer, the Iraqi government will be given complete control of their country. At that time, they can start to trust America, which will have it's forces withdrawn to bases. And by the time 2011 rolls around, and the agreement ending America's legal presence in Iraq is set to expire, enough trust can be built up so that American troops are invited to stay, by the Iraqis.

And by then, a lot more money will be rolling into Iraq, a huge economic boom will be taking place, and the Iraqi government wouldn't want to do anything to rock the boat.

And by then, the Dinar will be RV'd, and I'll be living on the Big Island of Hawaii.

-- August 27, 2008 12:12 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Laura,

I agree that Hillary gave a great speech, even though I don't find her all that appealing, as a politician. She showed a generosity about her that I've never seen before.

On all the Ayers stuff and the rest of the stuff in Obama's closet, I think the Republicans are best off slowly bringing this stuff out to the public. If it's brought out nearer the election date, it would be harder for Obama to respond, rebuild trust. Timing is key. I expect a lot of junk on Obama to start coming out early October, a month before the election.

Maybe by then, Democrats can start having "buyers remorse" over Obama.

-- August 27, 2008 12:22 PM


Sara wrote:

Florida: McCain up 7
August 27, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama would dearly love to flip Florida, and his selection of Joe Biden may have had some designs on seniors in the Sunshine State. If so, the latest polling from Strategic Vision can’t make Obama very happy. In a survey of 1200 likely voters, John McCain leads Florida by seven points in a three-way race with Bob Barr, his largest lead in the state thus far, 49%-42%, with Barr getting one point and eight percent undecided.

Real Clear Politics shows that the race had been tightening in Florida until three weeks ago. In July, McCain and Obama had been tied for two weeks and Obama had gained significant momentum. Now all of that has disappeared, and Obama has slid all the way back to where he was after Hillary’s withdrawal from the race in June. This tracks closely to national polling, where Obama has slid catastrophically since clinching the nomination.

The survey has other interesting results. Floridians used to have strong opposition to off-shore drilling, but no longer. They now strongly support it, 62%-27%. Democrat Bill Nelson gets better job approval ratings for his Senate work than Republican Mel Martinez, 55% to 48% respectively. Charlie Crist remains popular as governor, but not as a potential McCain running mate. He has a 59% approval rating as governor, but only 34% favor McCain adding him to the ticket, with 52% opposed.

Florida can come out of the toss-up category and go back into the red-state column. If Obama hoped that Barr would impact McCain in the south, he’s going to be disappointed. Given that this survey took place during and after the Biden selection, it looks like that was a bust as well.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/27/florida-mccain-up-7/

-- August 27, 2008 12:39 PM


Sara wrote:

timbitts - Didn't you say to watch the Ladies vote? :)

Also.. Gallup notes here that McCain is up two points over Obama 46% to 44%l.

Sara.

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Conservative Democrats Peeling Away From Obama
Moderate/Liberal Republicans also shifting more to McCain
August 27, 2008
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama has been struggling to maintain his Democratic base thus far in August, and according to weekly averages of Gallup Poll Daily tracking, the problem seems to be with conservative Democrats.

The 63% of conservative Democrats supporting Obama over McCain in Aug. 18-24 polling is the lowest Obama has earned since he clinched the Democratic nomination in June. (This means 37% of conservative Democrats support McCain.) Support for Obama among all Democratic registered voters fell from 81% in early August (Aug. 4-10) to 78% last week (Aug. 18-24). Obama's support from Republicans over this period also dipped from 9% to 7%, while 42% to 43% of independents have consistently supported him.

Among Republicans, Obama has mainly seen his support eroding among moderate and liberal Republicans, from 19% to 13% during August. Already at 4% to 6% in July and early August, Obama's support from conservative Republicans could not go much lower.

Gallup Poll Daily tracking show the race from Aug. 18-24 was exactly tied at 45%. The large sample sizes included in each weekly aggregate (more than 6,000 registered voters) mean there is greater reliability that these changes are real than if they were seen on only a day-to-day basis.

The presidential contest has remained close in subsequent days, and McCain took a slight lead this week in Monday's tracking report, 46% to 44%.

Lady Trouble

Obama's troubles are also evident among married women. Between Aug. 4-10 and Aug. 18-24, the percentage of married women backing Obama fell from 46% to 39%, while support from unmarried women fell from 58% to 55%. At the same time, there has been no decrease in the percentage of married or unmarried men supporting Obama.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109846/Conservative-Democrats-Peeling-Away-From-Obama.aspx

-- August 27, 2008 1:18 PM


Sara wrote:

Video: Obama and Ayers, the “Hype” trailer
August 27, 2008
by Allahpundit

SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNkclbvuc9w

It’s not a trailer, actually. It’s a snippet from the film itself, premiering next week in Minneapolis during the convention and produced by Citizens United. Nothing here you don’t already know but plenty here that the average voter doesn’t, so expect it to draw the usual hysterical denunciations-without-arguments from the left eager to kill the meme but without any effective rebuttal to the charge.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/27/video-obama-and-ayers-the-hype-trailer/

-- August 27, 2008 2:46 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara,

Women usually have a lower tolerance for risk, than men do. Whether they are conservative, or liberal women, lower risk tolerance among women, compared to men, is consistent among ideological lines. And married women generally have less tolerance for risk, than single women. I believe, to get women's votes, McCain has to show he understands their concerns, and that he's not a risky candidate. Seems like he's doing that, so far.

Conservatives say, and I agree, that Barack is not ready to lead, he lacks judgement, that he doesn't have enough experience, to be President. Even Hillary Clinton agrees, if you look at what she said in her race with Barack.

"Not ready to lead" or "lack of experience" "he lacks judgement" are different ways of saying "Barack is a risk".

I think John McCain will have a simple and consistent line about Barack, that revolves around Barack as a risky candidate, while he is the steady one.

I'm pretty cautious about making people afraid, in a political race, because it's easy to manipulate people's emotions, and it can be done in a unethical way, if there is no substance to an allegation of riskiness.

However, in Barack's case, I'll make an exception since it's obvious from his past that he's not the sort of person who should be president.

-- August 27, 2008 3:04 PM


BritishKnite wrote:

Sara, thanks for the warning. At the moment, I'm far too poor to thinking about holidays *ha ha ha*. Waiting for the RV. I hadn't heard of that hotel chain before you mentioned them.

BritishKnite.

-- August 27, 2008 6:03 PM


Carole wrote:

Okay Guys
Been watching this Democratic Convention Charade long enough! Quite disgusting. Bill is a great speech deliverer, but has a severe case of amnesia! Giving direction to Obama to follow what he started proves it!

Bush inherited the mess that Clinton left. One area of massive destruction is what he did to our military as well as left this nation vulnerable to the 911. Wew will never know what Bush would have accomplished had there been no 9/11.

Perhaps I am hallucinating, but IF the Democratic party continues to decay....AND Hilary's supporters do not convert to Obama....I think it a great possibility that she will come forward as in INDEPENDENT, TAKE LIBERMAN AS VP.....AND WIN THE ELECTION!

Now, this is assuming that she really wants to be president. Remember, HER LIFELONG DESIRE IS TO BE A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

So, the next few weeks will be anything but boring.

Carole

-- August 27, 2008 9:51 PM


Fred wrote:

China starting the road to re-value. One nations start making deals with Iraq the two lane economic highway will start to flow. Just getting impatient with this dinar. Just wish it would move to say a penny and hold out there for awhile. Would really fell better there than this .007 area we are hovering at.

Check this article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080828/bs_afp/chinairaqoil_080828094225

BEIJING (AFP) - China hailed Thursday a three-billion-dollar oil agreement with Iraq as a win for both nations, as it sought to reassure the rest of the world that it should not be concerned by the deal.
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Becoming the first foreign firm to enter such an agreement since the end of Saddam Hussein's regime, state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) this week won the right to develop the Al-Ahdab oil field south of Baghdad.

"The cooperation between the relevant oil companies from China and Iraq is mutually beneficial," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters after the Iraqi embassy in Beijing said the deal had been reached.

"It will be conducive to the economic development of Iraq, and will meet China's demands in the oil field as well, and is also conducted according to market rules and will not harm any interests of any third parties."

The agreement, reached during a visit to China by Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani, revives a 1997 contract that granted China exploration rights to the Al-Ahdab oil field in the province of Wassit.

After China won the rights to the al-Ahdab field in a deal then valued at 700 million dollars over 23 years, activities were suspended due to UN sanctions and security issues following the US-led war in 2003 that toppled Saddam Hussein.

Planned oil production was then 90,000 barrels per day (bpd), and CNPC had been expected to win the new exploration rights.

The Iraqi embassy statement said the new deal would be worth three billion dollars, but other details were sketchy.

For China, the deal is another potential success in its sometimes controversial global quest for oil that has seen it sign a flurry of contracts in Africa and the Middle East in recent years.

China's demand for oil has grown markedly in recent years, as its economy has grown at double-digit pace and its population of more than 1.3 billion people has grown richer.

"This is certainly a breakthrough," said Liu Youcheng, a Beijing-based analyst with Hongyuan Securities.

"With oil prices surging, the global contest for oil resources is becoming ever fiercer. Many governments have realised this and have become unwilling to sell their oil resources cheaply to the multinationals."

The Al-Ahdab oil field deal is a service contract, which gives oil companies a flat fee for their efforts rather than a share of the profits from the exploitation of oil resources.

In this light, the deal may not be as attractive to China as it could have been.

However China, a net importer of oil since the 1990s, is so desperate for energy that it is prepared to make significant concessions to secure oil supplies, according to Hongyan Securities' Liu.

"Since it has become more and more difficult to obtain equity and exploit rights in oil fields, it's good for China to participate in the development through a service contract. It diversifies our oil sources and helps guarantee China's oil supplies," he said.

At the end of June, Iraq's oil ministry threw open six oilfields and two gas fields for international bidding by 41 companies.

The deals, which are service contracts only, pave the way for energy firms based abroad to return to Iraq 36 years after Saddam Hussein threw them out.

Iraq wants to ramp up output by 500,000 barrels per day from the current average production of 2.5 million bpd, about equal to the amount being pumped before the US-led invasion of March 2003.

CNPC declined comment Thursday on the revived deal.

Fred

-- August 28, 2008 7:46 AM


mattuk wrote:

Kuwait to ask MPs to forgive Iraq debt
Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:46pm BST

KUWAIT (Reuters) - Kuwait's government will present a request to parliament in its next session in October to forgive Iraq's multi-billion debt, a local newspaper reported on Thursday, citing a senior source.

The Gulf Arab state has said that it would not allow the repayment of the estimated $15 billion (8.2 billion pounds) to $16 billion debt to become a burden on Iraq, but only parliament can cancel it.

The Kuwaiti government move came after the United Arab Emirates waived Iraq's debts and Saudi Arabia pledged to do so, daily newspaper Seyassah reported the senior source as saying.

The debt represents loans Kuwait made to Baghdad in the Saddam Hussein era, mostly during the 1980-1988 Iraq-Iran war.

Local media on Thursday also carried statements from an Iraqi politician stating that Kuwait could cancel the debt.

"Our brothers in Kuwait told us that they are not demanding any debt and that there is no need to discuss this issue," the head of the Iraqi parliamentary foreign relations committee Humam Hamoudi was quoted as saying by al-Qabas newspaper.

"But the officials in the Iraqi government want to settle all the debt."

Several Kuwaiti deputies oppose debt forgiveness as many in Kuwait are still bitter about Saddam's 1990 invasion of their country.

The United States has, since invading Iraq in 2003 and toppling Saddam, been pressing its Arab allies to forgive Iraq's debts and restore top-level diplomatic ties.
The United Arab Emirates waived all of Iraq's almost $7 billion debt to the UAE last month.

Saudi Arabia pledged last year to cancel 80 percent of more than $15 billion in Iraqi debt but has yet to do so. A senior Saudi official said in May the kingdom may rescind the entire debt.

(Reporting by Rania El Gamal; Editing by Simon Webb)

-- August 28, 2008 8:52 AM


mattuk wrote:

Corruption seen as grave threat to Iraqi democracy
Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:14am BST

By Missy Ryan

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Corruption is a grave and gathering threat to Iraq's fragile democracy and its strides in curtailing bloodshed, a senior U.S. official in Baghdad said.

Unchecked, corruption "threatens the stability of the democracy, because people won't support a government that is widely viewed as corrupt through and through," Ambassador Lawrence Benedict, anti-corruption coordinator at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, said in an interview this week.

"Senior officials in the Iraqi government have characterized corruption as the second insurgency -- that's pretty strong language in a place like this," Benedict said. "Iraqis view it a serious problem, and we certainly share that view."

Widespread graft is drawing scrutiny as Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Shi'ite-led government seeks to match success on the battlefield with government reforms and political progress.

After more than five years of war, violence across Iraq has dropped to levels not seen since 2004.

But Iraq scored only above Myanmar and Somalia in 2007 in Transparency International's ranking of perceptions about corruption in 180 countries and territories.

Radhi Hamza al-Radhi, former head of Iraq's integrity board, told the U.S. Congress last year the cost of corruption across Iraqi ministries was believed to be at least $18 billion.

Iraq, blessed with the world's third largest oil reserves but scarred by years of authoritarian rule, crippling sanctions and war, is a country primed for such pitfalls, Benedict said.
He ticked off a list of problem areas like oil smuggling, abuse of state contracts, misuse of antiquated laws handing officials vast powers and a thriving black market for everything from state-subsidized gasoline to cooking gas.

Benedict, whose team of American officials seeks to quietly prod the Iraqi government, stopped short of naming specific officials or ministries believed to be most corrupt.

PART OF THE PROCESS

He described the spectacular surge this year in the price of oil, which provides Iraq with about 90 percent of its government revenues, as both a boon and curse. "There's more money around for people to try to get their hands on," Benedict said.

A report by a U.S. watchdog agency in 2007 found that inadequate metering, reinjection, corruption, theft and sabotage robbed Iraq of 100,000-300,000 barrels of oil per day.

Maliki's government has been taking steps to combat the problem, enacting earlier this year a United Nations convention on corruption and empowering an independent integrity commission that oversees ombudsman positions across the government.

The parliament passed a law cracking down on oil smugglers.

But a special Iraq ombudsman in Washington has found that Iraqi anti-corruption efforts are hindered by security, lack of proper resources, and sometimes by the Iraqi government itself.

Benedict acknowledged there is a tension between the desire to accelerate slow steps to rebuild infrastructure and the need to ensure funding in major projects doesn't go astray.
Corruption is also a threat to Iraqi security, Benedict said, describing the diversion or black market sale of basic goods as a possible conduit for "activities of terrorists."

(Editing by Dominic Evans)

-- August 28, 2008 9:30 AM


Bob wrote:

Did we lose the page? The last input that I read is from the 24th of August, what happened?

-- August 28, 2008 10:34 AM


Rob N. wrote:

All:

Iraq's Oil Exports Rise to 58.8MM Barrels in July
AFX News Limited Wednesday, August 27, 2008


The Iraqi Oil Ministry says that oil exports in July inched up to 58.8 million barrels -- a 0.7% increase from the previous month.

Wednesday's ministry statement says the barrel was sold at an average price of $113.8 and yielded $6.692 billion. June's price stood at $123 a barrel.

The statement adds that 46.9 million barrels were exported through the country's south and 11.9 million barrels from the north, from Turkey's port of Ceyhan. The oil was uploaded by 19 international oil companies.

In May, Iraq saw its highest oil exports since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, with 62.4 million barrels.

Iraq sits on the world's third-largest oil reserves with about 115 billion barrels.
(www.ringzone.com)

Thanks,

Rob N.

-- August 28, 2008 11:24 AM


Valerio wrote:

The demo-show is over now, and it was impressive to say the least. Michelle Obama said Barack will be an awesome president if elected (any wife would say the same), Hillary made her best speach to show herself that she should have been choosen, and Bill managed to regretfully say that democrats should unite to elect Obama. And tonight Obamessiah was anointed as their king in front of 84,000 giddy Obamanites, fortyfive years to the day of MLK's "I have a dream" speach. Not once did he mention King by name, or the issue of race, or even the historical significance of His nomination as the democratic candidate for president. Taking advantage of the current pinch on the middle class white America, his promises were ointment for their wounds, and medicine for their pain. His promises reached magnificantly high, and they were ready to believe him that they can fly. He has convinced them that as president, he will take away all their trouble. He promised to cut the tax burden for 95% of the working people, and give them all the same health plan as those in congress. He promised to invest 150 billion in alternative renewable energy, and end the need for foreign oil in ten years. He will provide a world class education for every child in America, and pay teachers higher salaries while making their jobs easier, and he will make sure everyone can afford a college education. He promised high paying jobs for everyone, and to keep the wants of the middle class above all. He will pay for all this with closing tax loopholes for corporates, and the wealthiest Americans, and by combing the budget to cut spending. Will his promises prove to be more than can be believed by middle class white America? Thats who he is speaking to, thats who he needs to be elected. Or will his promises put them in a state of Obamallucination? Will McCain be able pour reality over Obamas cup of hope? Will he be afforded the platform to do it? We will be watching.

-- August 29, 2008 4:16 AM


Sara wrote:

ROBIN HOOD OBAMA

Valerio wrote of Obama, quote:

He has convinced them that as president, he will take away all their trouble. He promised...
to cut the tax burden for 95% of the working people,
and give them all the same health plan as those in congress.
He promised to invest 150 billion in alternative renewable energy,
and end the need for foreign oil in ten years.
He will provide a world class education for every child in America,
and pay teachers higher salaries while making their jobs easier,
and he will make sure everyone can afford a college education.
He promised high paying jobs for everyone,
and to keep the wants of the middle class above all.

LASTLY, Valero wrote:

He will pay for all this with closing tax loopholes for corporates, and the wealthiest Americans, and by combing the budget to cut spending.

Basically, what you see is ROBIN HOOD.. who will ROB the RICH (the wealthiest Americans - including RV Dinarian holders once it happens) and GIVE to the perceived "POOR" - those wanting a free college education, free tax cuts, and MORE government mandated services.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN TRIED BY A PRESIDENT BEFORE - JIMMY CARTER - and, quote, "The Congressional Research Service analyzed the Carter-era WPT and called it a complete failure:"

===

Obama as Robin Hood
August 1, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama has released his “Emergency Economic Plan,” a clever mechanism that owes much more to Robin Hood than Milton Friedman. Obama plans to impose windfall-profits taxes on oil companies, and then redistribute the funds to taxpayers in the form of one-time rebates of $1000 per family. Obama also plans on spending an additional $50 billion, half of which will go to state governments:
QUOTE:

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Friday announced an “Emergency Economic Plan” that would give families a stimulus check of $1,000 each, funded in part by what his presidential campaign calls “windfall profits from Big Oil.”

Details are in this six-page policy paper.

The first part of Obama’s plan is an emergency energy rebate ($500 to individual workers, $1,000 to families) as soon as this fall.

“This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months,” Obama said. “Or, if you live in a state where it gets very cold in the winter, it will be enough to cover the entire increase in your heating bills. Or you could use the rebate for any of your other bills or even to pay down debt[."]

===end quote===

The Obama campaign simply can’t keep its credentials as a Carter retread hidden. The windfall-profits tax got tried by Jimmy Carter in the last desperate months of his presidency as he tried to demonize oil companies for fuel price increases and shortages. The tax hit decreased domestic production and forced us to import more oil, and it did nothing to relieve weary consumers. Only when Reagan took office and eventually got the tax rescinded, along with other arbitratry tax disincentives towards domestic production, did fuel prices and supply stabilize.

The Congressional Research Service analyzed the Carter-era WPT and called it a complete failure:
QUOTE:

[T]he windfall profits tax was forecasted to raise more than $320 billion between 1980 and 1989. However, according to the CRS, the government collected only $80 billion in gross tax revenue ($146 billion in 2004 dollars). The net amount was actually less than this—roughly $40 billion—because the tax was deductible against corporate income.

CRS also found the windfall profits tax had the effect of decreasing domestic production by 3 percent to 6 percent, thereby increasing American dependence on foreign oil sources by 8 percent to 16 percent. A side effect was declining, not increasing, tax collections. Figure 1 clearly shows that while the tax raised considerable revenue in the initial years following its enactment, those revenues declined to almost nothing as the domestic industry collapsed.

The 1980 windfall profits tax was also found to be highly burdensome for the industry to comply with and for the Internal Revenue Service to administer, especially in years when no revenue was raised. It seems unlikely that a new tax could be designed in a less burdensome fashion. Tax Foundation economists estimate that U.S. companies currently spend nearly $150 billion annually to comply with the federal income tax alone. Enacting a new windfall profits tax would add an additional layer of complexity to the federal tax system.

==end quote===

And the most obvious point of all is that the rebates will only give us a one-time relief for the high gas prices, while the new tax will raise the cost of production and delivery for years. Does Obama believe that consumers don’t pay the price for taxation at the pump? And even if that didn’t happen, the 10% margin for the oil industry supports the shareholder price for these companies — in which millions of Americans have money invested through retirement accounts and other investments. Draining the worth of the stock will cost retirement accounts much more than a thousand dollars over the length of the investment, meaning that Obama is stealing from the rich and the middle- and working-class alike just to play Robin Hood now.

Note the use of the word “Emergency” carefully. Democrats in Congress don’t consider fuel prices an emergency; they just skedaddled for the summer without bothering to debate drilling. However, it makes for a nice title for those who want to take drastic action, such as nationalizing industries or slapping on huge new regulatory and tax burdens on the private sector. The desired result: making us a dependent class on the government and undermining investors.

We don’t need Robin Hood redistributionism. We certainly don’t need a return to Jimmy Carter’s disastrous energy policies. We need common sense policies that remove government as a roadblock to responsible energy production. Obviously, Democrats can’t deliver that.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/01/obama-as-robin-hood/

-- August 29, 2008 11:04 AM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Obamanation?

Obama: Wow, what a cult of personality the Dems are building up around the guy. Now, I like Obama, on a personal level. But some of the comments being made about Obama on the tube are bizarre. Several Demos talked about people "falling in love with Obama". Chris Matthews said, when he heard Obama, "a chill ran up my leg". And the crowd of 80,000 in Denver last night sure seemed in love with the guy.

Now, maybe I'm out of touch, but as an average guy, I've never fallen in love with a middle aged black man.

I like George Bush as well, but I'm not going to send the guy flowers and a card.

Whenever I tune in to an Obama rally, I keep hearing Scott McKenzie's song from the 1960s, "If you're going to,....San...Fran...Sisco.. Be sure to wear,.....flowers, in your hair.......You're going to find,......some gentle people there"

It's all a bit too much for me, this Obamania fever.

-- August 29, 2008 11:26 AM


Sara wrote:

Well.. if naming Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain's VP isn't a proof to the Dems he is one of them.. I don't know what will.

Sara.

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Alaska Gov. Palin to be Named as McCain Running Mate
by FOXNews.com
Friday, August 29, 2008

DAYTON, Ohio — John McCain will introduce Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate at an event here at noon Friday, senior campaign sources confirmed to FOX News.

Palin is considered a rising star in the Republican Party. She is the state’s first female governor, the mother of five — and at 44 is its youngest chief executive.

Palin will be the second female vice presidential candidate from a major political party. The first was New York Rep. Geraldine Ferrarro, who was Walter Mondale’s Democratic running mate in 1984.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who like Romney was a rival to McCain in the primaries, sent an e-mail to supporters on Thursday evening saying he would not be at the rally. Sources later told FOX News that Huckabee was not in the running.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/29/mccain-to-name-running-mate-on-friday/

-- August 29, 2008 11:54 AM


Sara wrote:

U.S. jury clears Marine in Iraq slay
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, August 28th 2008, 9:30 PM

RIVERSIDE, Calif. - A former Marine accused of killing unarmed Iraqi detainees was acquitted of voluntary manslaughter Thursday in a first-of-its-kind federal trial.

The jury took six hours to find Jose Luis Nazario not guilty of charges that he killed or caused others to kill four unarmed detainees on Nov. 9, 2004, in Fallujah, Iraq, during some of the fiercest fighting of the war.

The verdict left the 28-year-old defendant in tears. His mother, family and friends cried so loud the judge smacked his gavel in a call for order.

"It's been a long, hard year for my family," Nazario said. "I need a moment to catch my breath."

The verdict marks the first time a civilian jury has determined whether the alleged actions of a former military service member in combat violated the law of war.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/08/28/2008-08-28_us_jury_clears_marine_in_iraq_slay-2.html

-- August 29, 2008 12:37 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Obamanation?

Obama: Wow, what a cult of personality the Dems are building up around the guy. Now, I like Obama, on a personal level. But some of the comments being made about Obama on the tube are bizarre. Several Demos talked about people "falling in love with Obama". Chris Matthews said, when he heard Obama, "a chill ran up my leg". And the crowd of 80,000 in Denver last night sure seemed in love with the guy.

Now, maybe I'm out of touch, but as an average guy, I've never fallen in love with a middle aged black man.

I like George Bush as well, but I'm not going to send the guy flowers and a card.

Obama said recently, "I'm the Kobe Bryant of politics. I've got game." I like Kobe. But I see Kobe for what he is: a very likable average guy, in most ways, who happens to play a childhood game very well, and gets paid extravagantly well for doing so.

And basketball players are athletes and celebrities, who are put on artificial pedastals by the American media. There is an other-wordly, fantasy, Peter-Pan quality to sports celebrities. They become adored media celebrities, playing a game for boys. Interesting that Obama sees himself as a Kobe.

So the choice is clear for America: Do you want a war hero as president? Or celebrity?

Now, a lot of Americans seem to love and adore celebrities. It's one of the things that define America, if every news stand at any grocery store in America is any indication.

Myself, I never bought into the cult of celebrities, so I have to say I really don't get it. I don't feel whatever those enthusiastic zombies in Denver were feeling last night. It just isn't in me to feel. And if I do admire someone, it's usually someone with more substance, like Winston Churchill, Lady Thatcher, or Ronald Reagan.

The rally at Denver last night reminded me of the 1960s, only without the drugs.

Whenever I tune in to an Obama rally, I keep hearing Scott McKenzie's song from the 1960s, "If you're going to,....San...Fran...Sisco.. Be sure to wear,.....flowers, in your hair.......You're going to find,......some gentle people there"

It's all too naive, too idealistic, for my tastes.
And without the use of hallucegenics, I don't think I could feel as they feel.

It's all a bit too much for me, this Obama-mania fever.

-- August 29, 2008 12:54 PM


Sara wrote:

One uping the Dems.

===

Talk talk talk. Guess which party has a woman on the ticket?
Friday, August 29, 2008

HILLARY CLINTON, JOHN MCCAIN

'They brushed off the women base like dirt. and the GOP pick them up.'

Holy smokes! At this Hillary Clinton forum, called... HillaryClintonForum.net, the frustrated Hillary supporters are thrilled - almost as joyous as the glee coming from my readers. Comments include:
Quote:

HOPE ITS PALIN, I WOULD VOTE TWICE JUST TO STICK IT TO OBAMA

Leave it to the GOP to pick a woman for the ticket. Obama snubbed the most viable and experienced woman who received 18 million votes, for another MALE. I have a feeling, somewhere somehow, Hillary is snickering!

If this is true, this moves me from staying at home to voting McCain.

GAME CHANGER

==end quote==

They may not be a representative sample of Hillary's 18 million supporters, but obviously, a certain number of those folks are elated to see a woman on a major party ticket, and are talking about donating and volunteering for the McCain-Palin ticket.

I get the feeling that this was expected, as one of my McCain guys just told me, "I think Obama will find that she's more than just a 'sweetie.'"

And now, about a week later... the Biden pick looks pretty crappy, huh? Is Obama sure he doesn't want Hillary on the ticket?

UPDATE: A reader notes, "The Democratic National Convention was a woman-palooza. Hillary's speech celebrated women's progress. Michelle's speech celebrated Hillary shattering the glass ceiling. Talk talk talk. Guess which party has a woman on the ticket."

08/29 11:29 AM

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTQ4NDIzY2Q5Mzc5N2Q3NGU2YTRjNjlhNjY0YzM1NjM=

-- August 29, 2008 1:44 PM


Tsalagi wrote:

I believe if Maliki doesn't get back in line with the US, and drop his pro Iran stance, he may end up on a long vacation in Iran with his buddy Sadr.
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Politics

Maliki picks a date with destiny
By Sami Moubayed

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Damascus, 29 August 2008 (Asian Tribune)

Generations of Iraqi leaders have succumbed to the "Iraqi curse" - dying violent deaths while in office or soon after leaving it. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's date with destiny could well be determined by his present fixation on another date - when United States troops should permanently leave his country.

This week, Maliki reiterated that he had agreed with the United States that all 145,000 American troops would withdraw from Iraq by the end of 2010. The negotiations are for a Status of Forces Agreement to govern relations between American troops and the Iraqis after the United Nations mandate expires this December.

Maliki said there would be no security agreement with the US without an unconditional timetable for withdrawal, "No pact or agreement should be set without being based on full sovereignty, national common interests, and no foreign soldier should remain on Iraqi land. There should be a specific deadline and it should not be open."

And that deadline is 2010, Maliki said. The US denies that such a date has been reached, and talks of a 2015 timetable.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visited Baghdad last week to get Maliki to change his position, with no luck. President George W Bush talked to him via satellite conference, but Maliki was adamant, echoing words heard at every end of the political spectrum in Iran.

The US then told him - in a polite way - that he was lying over the date. White House spokesman Tony Fratto fired, "Any decisions on troops will be based on conditions in Iraq. That has always been our position and it continues to be our position. An agreement has not been signed. There is no agreement until there is an agreement signed." US officials have confirmed there is a draft agreement but said it needed to be put to both governments and the Iraqi parliament for approval or amendment.

But Maliki sticks to the 2010 date. He has also heavily criticized the military pact in its current form, because it gives US personnel immunity from Iraqi law on Iraqi soil, noting, "We can't neglect our sons by giving an open immunity for anyone whether he is Iraqi or a foreigner."

Iraqis realize their prime minister is either being dishonest with them, to appease rising disgust with the US, or has been fooled by the United States, or pressured into saying something by the Iranians. One thing is clear - Maliki has strained relations with the United States. They were never fond of the premier, but worked with him reluctantly despite his relationship with militias like the Mahdi Army of Muqtada al-Sadr, to try and bring security to Iraq.

That failed and under Maliki, the militias - mainly Shi'ite - have grown all the more stronger. He has walked a tightrope between Washington and Tehran, but with the Bush administration reaching the final months of its tenure at the White House he seems to have chosen sides. There is no longer any sense in obeying the Americans, Maliki reckons, especially as they were asking him to do things he cannot deliver, like rapprochement with Sunnis and the signing of the controversial pact with the Americans - which Iraqis call the "Treaty of Dishonor".

As a result, he has cuddled up further to the Iranians and relaxed security in Baghdad, to reset the situation ablaze. The last thing the Americans want in the last months of the Bush administration is a civil war in Iraq. He is telling the Americans, "It's either me or violence." Many believe this strategy was drawn up in Tehran, including Wafiq Samarrai, a former security advisor to President Jalal Talabani, who in turn is an ally to Maliki. Samarrai resigned from his job this week to speak freely about Iranian interference in Iraqi affairs. "I have found it suitable to play my role writing books or in newspapers, to shed light on what I believe to be the threat by Iranian influence."

Maliki and the Iraqi curse

Maliki is unable to strike a balance between national and sectarian affiliations, nor can he please the international community, the US or the Arab world. Only the Iranians still seem firmly supportive of the premier. He too, however, is being damned by the Iraqi curse.

Domestically, his approval ratings are down - not for security - but for basic services that he cannot provide for ordinary Iraqis, such as clean drinking water, sewage disposal, medical care and electricity, which now gets cut 18-20 hours per day in Baghdad. That reality becomes all the more difficult for ordinary Iraqis when they realize that Maliki has allocated $15 billion of the state budget in 2008 for grand infrastructure projects throughout Iraq.

Stories of internal fighting in Iraq - which used to be front-page news - are now covered on inside pages of major Arab dailies. That was not the case in 2003. This is partly due to a feeling that goes, "We cannot help you if you do not want to help yourselves."

The repeated brutality of attacks - not against US forces but against fellow Iraqis - has contributed heavily to the disenchantment with Iraq by ordinary Arabs.

This week, 25 young cadets were killed in a suicide bombing in Diyali, 150 kilometers northeast of Baghdad, while 40 were wounded. A car bomb went off in Tikrit, badly wounding 13 civilians. Earlier, nine had been killed and 27 wounded in a bombing in Baquba.

The greatest tourism achievement this summer in Baghdad has been the reopening of a pool (established in 2002 and named after Saddam Hussein) that used to welcome swimmers and picnickers prior to the war of 2003, at a rate of 250,000 on weekends. It prompted a Tourism Ministry official to say at the event, "I tell the Iraqis, Baghdad is now safe."

This was followed by festivities, staged by the government, welcoming 250 families who returned to Baghdad, a signal that Maliki's Iraq is indeed "safe".

Meanwhile, Iraqi dailies mocked both events, citing a report from neighboring Syria that revenue from tourism this summer had reached US$2 billion, with 511,000 tourists. Iraqi journalists angrily asked, "Why not Iraq? Has the 'Iraqi curse' befallen the citizens as well as leaders of Iraq?"

Ordinary Iraqis hauntingly speak of an "Iraqi curse" that befalls on all those who assume senior government office in Baghdad. Of all the leaders of Iraq, only one lived a decent life after leaving office. His name was Abdulrahman Aref, who ruled from 1966 until being toppled by the Ba'ath coup of 1968.

This week, the Iraqi government even authorized a pension for his wife (5 million dinars - US$4,228 - per year), one year after he died in Amman, Jordan, at the age of 91, and was given a state funeral in Baghdad.

King Faisal I, the founder of modern Iraq, also died a normal death in 1933. His son King Ghazi was killed in a car accident (believed to doctored by the British) in 1939, at the age of 27. His son King Faisal II was murdered, at the age of 23, along with the entire royal family by Iraqi revolutionaries, on July 14, 1958. The crown prince was crucified by the mob, while veteran prime minister Nuri al-Said was shot, then dragged through the streets of Baghdad until his body disintegrated.

Abdul-Karim Qasim, architect of the revolution of 1958, was himself shot by his comrade Abdulsalam Aref in 1963 (at the relatively young age of 49). Aref himself died in an airplane crash (also believed to be doctored) in 1965. He was 45. The Ba'athist Ahmad Hasan Bakr, who assumed power in 1968, was toppled and humiliated by Saddam Hussein. Saddam himself came down with thunder and was then executed in 2006, having led Iraq for 24 bloody years.

His two sons received horrific deaths in 2003. More recently, the "Iraqi curse" has been less severe. Over the past year, Jalal Talabani has been hospitalized to the United States for heart problems while Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki was rushed to London - twice - for medical treatment.

Parliament speaker Mahmud Mashadani was hospitalized to Amman, while vice President Tarek Hashemi received treatment in Istanbul. Abdul Aziz Hakim, the powerful head of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council is being treated for cancer in hospitals in the US and Tehran, while National Security Advisor Muwafak al-Rabei has been taken to London, and is reportedly in bad health.

The Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani called in several prominent journalists as rumors circulated that he was on his deathbed, to show the world that he is not in poor health. All of that has been headline news in Iraqi newspapers over the past few days; all of the nation's "leaders" are out of the country and/or in hospital beds - a perfect time for a coup.

A quick read through Iraqi history shows that if Maliki continues in present behavior he will either be asked to step down, abruptly, by the Americans, or will suffer the fate of Ghazi I, Faisal II, Qasim, Aref, Bakr and Saddam, this being the Iraqi curse.

Sami Moubayed is a Syrian political analyst.


http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php?refid=DH-S-29-08-2008&article=35804

-- August 29, 2008 2:07 PM


Sara wrote:

timbitts - I, too, find the "cult of personality" around Obama sickening.. but that is because I am looking for something more than a pretty face to fill the highest office in the land. Leadership qualities, solid values, the ability to deal with a crisis and past choices which show a person makes good tough choices themselves are among the things I look for in a candidate. This struck me this morning:

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Contrast Obama with Sarah Palin
David Freddoso
Friday, August 29, 2008

She is everything Obama is not. A real reformer who took on her own party's corrupt establishment and won, defeating an incumbent governor, 80-20. Don't forget that she's also a mother who chose life for her Down Syndrome baby — we can probably guess where she'd fall on the Born-Alive act. If this is the future of the GOP, they're in good shape.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjNkMTM3MTc4YjY3NmU3ZjQ2MjhmNjZjMTg3YjljMWI=

As you know, Obama voted to allow babies accidentally born alive after an abortion to be left to die. That was the basis of the "Born-Alive" act, to prevent their suffering and slowly dying, abandoned. Obama showed a complete lack of the most basic degree of human compassion in stark contrast to this lady who chose life for her own Down's Syndrome baby. That quality of true humanity in a tangible way (a vote), more than star quality and the ability to be adulated by a crowd, is one of the key qualities which I look for when checking the credentials of a candidate. I feel such a lack of compassion would turn up in other ways.. in other government measures - such as euthenasia issues or pallitive care, etc. And with the challenges of future technology making our choices greater and greater.. there can be the "thin edge of the wedge" coming along soon, where one wrong inhumane compromise could lead to many, many grisly effects which will one day affect our lives and those of our loved ones. Someone who compromises on human compassion as Obama has proven he does, therefore, he is not qualified in my view. McCain having adopted a black daugher is likewise a choice showing human compassion and unselfish love toward others. I cannot fault either GOP candidates on these issues of humanity.. but Obama has far to go to even come close to addressing my concerns on these issues. When they call him an empty suit.. I believe that his voting record and actions reveal that his is also an empty heart.

Case in point:

Obama’s ‘Lost’ Brother Found In Kenya
From the UK Telegraph:

Barack Obama’s ‘lost’ brother found in Kenya
Senator Barack Obama’s long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed.
By Nick Pisa in Rome
20 Aug 2008

The Italian edition of Vanity Fair said that it had found George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

Mr Obama, 26, the youngest of the presidential candidate’s half-brothers, spoke for the first time about his life, which could not be more different than that of the Democratic contender.

“No-one knows who I am,” he told the magazine, before claiming: “I live here on less than a dollar a month.”

According to Italy’s Vanity Fair his two metre by three metre shack is decorated with football posters of the Italian football giants AC Milan and Inter, as well as a calendar showing exotic beaches of the world.

Vanity Fair also noted that he had a front page newspaper picture of his famous brother - born of the same father as him, Barack Hussein Obama, but to a different mother, named only as Jael.

He told the magazine: “I live like a recluse, no-one knows I exist.”

Embarrassed by his penury, he said that he does not does not mention his famous half-brother in conversation.

“If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed,” he said.

For ten years George Obama lived rough. However he now hopes to try to sort his life out by starting a course at a local technical college.

He has only met his famous older brother twice - once when he was just five and the last time in 2006 when Senator Obama was on a tour of East Africa and visited Nairobi.

The Illinois senator mentions his brother in his autobiography, describing him in just one passing paragraph as a “beautiful boy with a rounded head”.

Of their second meeting, George Obama said: “It was very brief, we spoke for just a few minutes. It was like meeting a complete stranger.”

George added he was no longer in contact with his mother and said:”I have had to learn to live and take what I need.

“Huruma is a tough place, last January during the elections there was rioting and six people were hacked to death. The police don’t even arrest you they just shoot you.

“I have seen two of my friends killed. I have scars from defending myself with my fists. I am good with my fists.”

==end of quote===

What is Barack Husseins Obama’s favorite Biblical passage again, the words he says that guide his life?

Oh, yeah. From Mattews 25: “I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.”

What has Mr. Obama done for his brother or any of his brothers? Ever?

But live like a millionaire while they live on less than one dollar a month?

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, August 20th, 2008.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-lost-brother-found-in-kenya

-- August 29, 2008 2:12 PM


Carole wrote:

WATCH HILIARY.......

MORE MOTIVATION THAN EVER TO HANG ONTO THOSE 18 MILLION VOTES!

IF IT HAS CROSSED HER MIND TO LEAVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND JOIN THE INDEPENDENT PARTY....SHE WILL DO IT!

AT ANY RATE UNLESS SHE IS VERY SURE SHE WILL GET THE NEXT SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENT.....SHE WILL DO THIS! LIBERMAN AT HER SIDE WILL GET HER TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

Carole

-- August 29, 2008 2:13 PM


Carole wrote:

As her explanation to do this she will have as her cause, to show loyalty to her base. Sure she will have to eat crow for supporting Obama, BUT SHE'S A CLINTON...THEY WILL FORGIVE HER!

REMEMBER THE RED DRESS!

Carole

-- August 29, 2008 2:19 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Sara, we agree about cults of personality.

The fact that Obama is the Democratic nominee tells me a lot of Americans are having trouble distinguishing between media hype and reality. America is, to some degree, a celebrity driven culture. Obama knows that, and knows how to use the incredible power of the media to command attention. He's a performer. That's why he pursued the role of keynote speaker at the Democratic convention a few years ago. He wanted media exposure, to launch himself into the political stratoshpere.

It worked, so far.

America runs, to some degree, in a tiny media universe. America is a big country of 300 million people. Most people's perceptions of the candidates are shaped by the media. So politicians who know how to be a performer do well. Ronald Reagan knew this. Being a public speaker for many years for GE and also Hollywood actor were invaluable in preparing him for the presidency.

The difference of Reagan and Obama is Reagan had meat on that experience bone. A lot of it. He wrote newspaper columns for many years. This gave him a chance to think throught many issues for many years, before becoming president. And he had union experience as the head of the Screen Actors Guild, and executive experience as two terms as governor. This made Reagan an incredibly well-rounded human being. Obama's resume, as a human being, is much lighter.

Obama said he only met his biological father once, when he was ten years old, when dad and mom got together for a month. Obama's dad was a radical Marxist Muslim. It's interesting that Obama spent several decades in the company and friendship of an older, radical black man, Reverend Wright. It's almost like Obama was looking for a father figure, isn't it? And he picked someone to idolize, who was very much like his dad: a charasmatic radical. And it's interesting that when Obama listed the dangers ahead for America, in one speech, he completely neglected to mention Islamic extremism. That's like living at the beginning of an ICE AGE and forgetting to mention cold. It's obvious Obama's heart is not into the fight against radical Islam. After all, these are his father's people, and I guess it's hard for young Obama Skywalker to admit that dad is a villain.

Obama doesn't understand evil. If he didn't see it, staring him in the face every Sunday morning for twenty years, with the hate-filled, racist, anti-American vulgar sermons coming out of Reverend Wright's mouth, he sure won't see it in the world. John McCain has no such illusions.

-- August 29, 2008 3:41 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole and All,

I would have thought so too that Clinton would have gone independent. However, I do not think so now. She has told her fellow democrats that she, Bill and her daughter are going to vote for the democratic ticket. I know at the time she said this, she did not know what McCain was going to do. I am sure she is sizing up this match at this time.

I think, if the democratic ticket loses, Clinton will run against this Republican ticket. She will try to woo back the women who went over to the Republicans. If the democrates win, then she will have to wait 8 years.

However, McCain's choice of a running mate was inspirational. The Christian Right will support this ticket. And, it sounds like this Vice Presidental pick is a fighter and she will try and convince women to vote for her and I predict, many women will.

She does have an 80 per cent favorable impression in Alaska; and one can at least say, it's better than congress favorable impression of 9 per cent. I think, McCain is going to do well with this lady.

Laura Parker

-- August 29, 2008 4:01 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Just checked Israeli news souce and found some more articles. This is first.

Cheney to visit Georgia, Iwo Jima sails for Middle East
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 25, 2008, 1:06 PM (GMT+02:00)


US Vice President Dick Cheney to visit Tbilisi and Kiev
The Georgian conflict over South Ossetia is spiraling into a contest between the US and Russia over control of the Black Sea region and the eastern Mediterranean.

The US Vice President Dick Cheney will stop over in Georgia, the Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Italy during a trip starting Sept. 2. President Bush “felt it was important to have the vice president consult with allies in the region on our common security interests,” said the White House spokesman Monday, Aug. 25.

These steps were Washington’s response to a rapid volley of decisions in Moscow: one was taken by the Russian Navy chief, Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky - as disclosed earlier by DEBKAfile - to place its warships bound for Syria’s Mediterranean port of Tartus under the command of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet headquarters in Sevastopol.

At the same time, the American aircraft carrier, the Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group, heading a six-vessel contingent, sets sail Tuesday for the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf, with 6,000 sailors and marines aboard.

Also on Monday, the Russian general staff took the further step of announcing regular searches of all cargoes transiting the Georgian port of Poti, tightening its grip on the Black Sea shore.

In Sochi, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev said he was considering halting Moscow’s ties with NATO. The Russian upper house unanimously urged him to recognize the two breakaway Georgian provinces as independent republics. This step would defy international recognition of the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as breakaway provinces of Georgia for the first time.

Medvedev said a decision to break off ties with NATO would be difficult but relations had “worsened sharply as a result of the conflict with Georgia over South Ossetia.”

Tehran reported the Russian and Iranian presidents would meet at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization’s summit taking place in Dushanbe, Tajikistan Thursday and Friday, Aug. 28-29.

Last week, at the height of the Georgian crisis, the Russian president received Syrian president Bashar Assad at Sochi to discuss sophisticated Russian arms shipments and the establishment of a Russian naval base Syria.

-- August 29, 2008 4:13 PM


cornishboy wrote:

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Profits of $ 11 million Bank of Baghdad ... Iraqi inflation declining to 4.7 percent

BAGHDAD - Adel Mahdi life - 29/08/08

The Chairman of the Central Agency for Statistics in the Ministry of Planning and Development Cooperation Mehdi Iraqi relations, the annual rates of inflation declined from 66.4 percent at the beginning in 2007 to 4.7 percent in the script, because monetary policy adopted by the central bank and the other responsible, since the end In 2006, representing an increase of the value of the dinar against the dollar, as well as raising interest rates .

He attributed the causes of this decline also to the stability of commodity prices component of the consumer basket, especially fuel, transport and communications.

The inflation index rose in July (July) last 1.9 percent of its level in June (June).

The source said the Central Agency for Statistics report that inflation last month, showed a rise in prices of foodstuffs, beverages and tobacco, fuel and transport (consisting of the food basket), pointing out that expenditure on these goods is 78.8 percent.

Bank of Baghdad

Bank achieved Baghdad (Ahli Bank) profit amounted to 12.6 billion Iraqi dinars in the first half of this year, or about $ 11 million, compared with 10.2 billion dinars in the first half of 2007.

The source at the bank in an interview to life, that this increase in profits reflect the increasing activity of the bank in attracting new customers, which led to a rise in its financial position (total public budget) at the end of the second quarter of this year to hit 411.8 billion Iraqi dinars, Any higher than it was the end of 2007, amounting to 363.7 billion dinars, up 13.7 percent . He attributed this to high volume amounts deposited with the bank in the first half of this year.
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-- August 29, 2008 4:33 PM


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Medvedev not afraid of Cold War after approving Georgian regions’ independence
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 26, 2008, 8:48 PM (GMT+02:00)


Russian president Dimitry Medvedev
The move sparked a sharp exchange between Washington and Moscow. President George W. Bush said it exacerbates tensions and complicates negotiations. The Russian president warned of “military responses” to the US missile shield in Europe.

Signing the decrees confirming South Ossetian and Abkhazian independence, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev said Tuesday, Aug. 26, Russia is prepared to go to any lengths to defend the enclaves. “We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a Cold War,” he said, after conferring with prime minister Vladimir Putin. “Of course we don’t need that. Everything depends on the stance of our partners and the world community and our partners in the West.”

Recognition of the two region’s independence was unanimously urged Monday by the Russian upper house.

DEBKAfile's Moscow sources report that the Kremlin is planning further sanctions against Georgia and its US-NATO backers, possibly in Eastern Europe.

The US state department has said recognition of the two provinces' independence would be "a violation of Georgian territorial integrity" and "inconsistent with international law". UK foreign secretary David Miliband called for the “widest possible” international coalition against Russian aggression in Georgia.

Russia has cancelled a visit by NATO's secretary general, after Medvedev said he was weighing halting cooperation with the military alliance, “until relations were clarified.” Its NATO ambassador said a "new understanding" needed to be reached between Russia and the alliance.

-- August 29, 2008 4:48 PM


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Russia successfully tests ICBM designed to beat anti-missile systems
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 28, 2008, 6:18 PM (GMT+02:00)


Russia's Topol RS-12M (SS-25 Sickle)
Reporting this Thurs. Aug. 28, Alexander Vovk, spokesman for Russia’s strategic nuclear forces said the Topol RS-12M was tested to “develop equipment for potential combat and use against ground-based missiles.”

Earlier this week, amid the crisis over Georgia, Russian president Dmitry Medvedev warned of a military response to the US missile shield to be installed in Europe.

DEBKAfile’s military sources report the Topol RS-12M ballistic missile (NATO codenamed SS-25 Sickle) is a new piece of equipment which Russian generals have said Moscow is working on to pierce any missile shield the US could make.

The ICBM test follows Russia’s warning to NATO against sending more ships to the Black Sea and caution to Moldava to watch its step.

Wednesday, DEBKAfile reported:

America’s decision to redirect its Georgia aid warship from Russian-controlled Poti port to Georgian-controlled Batumi Wednesday, August 27 – on direct orders from the Pentagon - did not cool the escalating tension between the two powers. As soon as the US Coast Guard cutter Dallas docked with 34 tons of humanitarian aid, three Russian missile boats, led by the Moskva missile cruiser, anchored at the Black Sea port of Sukhumi, capital of breakaway Abkhazia, to the north for what the Russians called “peacekeeping operations.”

In Moscow, Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn said NATO had exhausted the number of forces it can deploy in the Black Sea under international agreements. He warned Western nations against sending more ships. “NATO – which is not a state located in the Black Sea” cannot continuously increase its forces and systems there, he said.

According to DEBKAfile’s military sources, ten NATO warships are present in the Black Sea – American, Turkish, German, Spanish and Polish. Alliance sources have said more vessels would soon be deployed raising the number to eighteen.

Moldova, another former Soviet Black Sea nation, is the latest target of Russian threats and a factor in the Russian-US contest over the region.

Tuesday, Russian president Dmitry Medvedev warned Moldovan leaders against repeating Georgia’s mistake of trying to use force to regain control of its breakaway region of Transdniestria. Russian peacekeepers have been posted there since 1990, when provincial separatists fought to break away from Moldova. This dispute mirrors the predicament of Georgia and other former Soviet nations which have large Russian populations.

Wednesday, Russian ambassador Valeri Kuzmin advised Moldova’s leaders to avoid a “bloody and catastrophic trend of events.” He said Moscow had recognized South Ossetian and Abkhazian independence the day before, because of “Georgian’s aggression.”

Ukraine stepped in Wednesday with a demand to renegotiate the Russian Black Sea fleet’s lease for the use of the Sevastopol base and raise the rent.

-- August 29, 2008 4:53 PM


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Moscow denies rumored Kremlin plan to use oil weapon

August 29, 2008, 11:30 PM (GMT+02:00)

Russian energy minister Sergei Shmatko and LUKOIL denied Friday, Aug. 29, rumors circulating in Moscow that Russian oil companies were told to stand ready to cut off supplies to Europe Monday, Sept. 1 in retaliation for any sanctions passed at an emergency European Union summit in Brussels and NATO’s actions in the Black Sea. “We are doing everything we can to keep European consumers with enough oil,” said the minister in Dushanbe, capital of Tajikistan. LUKOIL is delivering the same amount of oil and oil products to Western Europe as before the Georgian crisis flared.

Any such step by Russia, the world's second-largest oil exporter, over Georgia, a key oil and gas transit zone, would further escalate inter-power tensions and cause mayhem in global energy and financial markets. Fuel prices would shoot up. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov called this talk the product of a “sick imagination.”

-- August 29, 2008 4:56 PM


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Russian admiral: Our Black Sea fleet can destroy NATO’s group in 20 minutes
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 29, 2008, 7:56 PM (GMT+02:00)


Russian Navy missile practice in Black Sea
Former Russian Black Sea Fleet commander, Adm. Eduard Baltin was quoted by Moscow media as saying Friday, Aug. 29: “Despite the apparent strength of the NATO naval group in the Black Sea… a single salvo from the Moskva missile cruiser and two or three missile boats would be enough to annihilate the entire group. Within 20 minutes, the waters would be clear.”

Adm. Baltin added: "We will not strike first, and they do not look like people with suicidal tendencies."

The Russian Fleet deploys 16 warships in the Black Sea compared with 10 NATO vessels – three American, Polish, German and Spanish frigates, and four Turkish warships, soon to be augmented by another six, including the USS Mount Whitney, which is considered one of the most advanced warships in the world.

In Washington, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino rejected Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin’s assertion that US personnel were in the combat zone during the war in Georgia and “someone in the United States” provoked the conflict to help one of the candidates in the American presidential race.

In his first major remark since the Georgian crisis erupted, Putin quoted information provided by the Russian military but offered no evidence. Perino called his allegations “patently false and “not rational.”

-- August 29, 2008 5:20 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Russian News
August 29, 2008, 2:29
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.

Deputy Chief of Russia's General Staff Anatoly Nagovitsyn showed photocopies of the passport to media in a press briefing on Thursday.

“There is a building in Zemonekozi - a settlement to the south of Tskhinval that was fiercely defended by a Georgian special operations squad. Upon clearing the building, Russian peacekeepers recovered, among other documents, an American passport in the name of Michael Lee White of Texas," said Nagovitsyn.

Neither the owner of the passport nor his remains were found at the scene, despite a thorough search.

"I do not know why he was there, but it is a fact that he was in the building, among Georgian special forces troops,” Nagovitsyn said.

The briefing was delivered on the same day Prime Minister Vladimir Putin told CNN, "We have serious reasons to believe that American citizens were right at the heart of the military action". Putin said the conflict in South Ossetian may have been planned to benefit one of the U.S. presidential candidates.

-- August 29, 2008 5:34 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article from Russian News-August 28, 2008, 20:40 reporting that Ukraine is having problems with fires/explosions -- I wonder why?

More blasts hit Ukrainian arms depot
Blasts are continuing at a major arms depot on fire in the North-East of Ukraine. In the town of Losovaya, a massive blaze has been raging at the facility which is packed with hundreds of tonnes of weapons.

On Thursday morning the fire had been contained but hot weather sparked more explosions. Several thousand residents have been evacuated and two servicemen were injured. Ukraine has declared a state of emergency.

The fire broke out on Wednesday afternoon in a nearby forest before spreading to the storage facility, which contains around ninety-five thousand tons of weapons. It set off a series of explosions of artillery shells and other weapons.

It is the latest in a series of similar incidents at military ammunition depots in Ukraine.

On August 19, 2006 and May 18, 2007 fires broke out at military base А2985 in Novobogdanovka, leaving four injured.

On April 11, 2008 a blast occurred at rocket base 275 injuring three pyrotechnists.

However the last major fire – that led to population evacuated – occurred in Zaporozhskaya region on May 6, 2004

-- August 29, 2008 5:41 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,
Another article from Russian News August 27, 2008, 14:41


Georgia sending spy planes to South Ossetia - Russia
A Georgian spy plane was detected in South Ossetian airspace on Tuesday, according to the Russian military. Colonel General Anatoly Nogovitsyn told a media briefing on Wednesday that the drone was acting in violation of existing agreements and believes Georgia is acting aggressively.

"A Georgian reconnaissance drone was detected at 3.15pm Moscow time (11.15am GMT) on Tuesday,” he said. “It was flying from the south to the north over South Ossetia and spying on places of deployment and movement routes of Russian military units."

Nogovitsyn added that NATO has no right to endlessly enlarge the group of warships in the Black Sea.

The Deputy Chief of the Russian General Staff said that, under the 1936 Montreux Convention on the status of the Black Sea straights, the maximum total tonnage of the fleet for non-coastal states is 45,000 tonnes.

There are currently ten NATO warships in the Black Sea, with eight more expected shortly.

-- August 29, 2008 5:52 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Another article from Russia Today News by: Mikhail KlimentyevAugust 28, 2008, 15:51

Asian alliance summit to be held in Russia next year
The leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation have signed several deals forging closer links in banking and the fight against terrorism and drugs. The announcements were made as it emerged that the next SCO will be chaired by Russia in Yekaterinburg next June.

As expected, some major steps towards the further development of a partnership cooperation within the framework of the SCO were taken.

Next on the agenda for Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev are bilateral meetings with his counterparts from Tajikistan, Iran and Afghanistan.

Ahead of the summit, being held in the Tajik capital of Dushanbe, the Russian president met with his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao.

Russia will assume the chairmanship of the SCO after the end of the Dushanbe summit. It will hold the title till the end of the next session of the SCO in Yekaterinburg next year.

-- August 29, 2008 5:56 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Unless I specifically say so--please consider all articles submitted to blog as from Russia Today News.
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AFP photo/ Aleksey Druzhinin August 28, 2008, 20:13
U.S. may have staged Georgian conflict - Putin
In an interview with CNN Russia’s Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict may have been staged to secure a victory for one of the presidential candidates in the U.S. He says preliminary reports show that U.S. citizens may have been present in the combat zone.

“We have serious reasons to believe that American citizens were right at the heart of the military action. This would have implications for American domestic policy. If this is confirmed, we will have grounds to suspect that somebody in the U.S. has created this conflict to aggravate the situation and create a competitive advantage for one of the presidential candidates”.

Russia’s Prime Minister also commented on the media coverage of the recent events.

“As far as the perception of these events by the general public goes, it depends not only on politicians, but also on how artful they are in controlling the mass media. And our American colleagues do this much better than we do and there's a lot we can learn from them”.

Putin stressed that Russia did not attack and cannot be portrayed as an aggressor.

“We didn’t attack anyone, we were attacked and therefore we need guarantees that we won’t be attacked again, and that our citizens won't be killed. They are trying to present us as aggressors”.

The Prime Minister has given a detailed chronology of the events between August 7 and 10.

“On 7 August, at 14:42, the Georgian peacekeepers left the headquarters of the peacekeeping forces under the pretext that they'd received orders from their commanders to leave their posts, and they never returned.

One hour later, heavy artillery shelling began.

At 22:35 a massive bombardment of Tsklhinval started. At 22:50 the transfer of Georgian ground troops started to the combat area. At the same time Georgian field hospitals were set up.

And at 23:30 the Brigadeer General commanding the Georgian peacekeeping forces announced that Georgia has declared a war against South Ossetia. They announced this publicly, looking straight into the TV cameras.

At that point we tried to contact the Georgian leadership, but everyone refused to talk to us.

At 12:45 AM on the 8th of August the Georgian commander repeated his statement. So who attacked whom?”

The former Russian president reiterated that the country has ‘no intention of attacking anyone, or of fighting a war with anyone’.

“For eight years while I was President I often heard one and the same question – what place does Russia think it should occupy in the world? We are a peace-loving state and want to co-operate with all our neighbours and other states. But if someone thinks they can just come in and kill us, and that our place is in the cemetery, these people should think of the consequences of such policies”.


-- August 29, 2008 6:01 PM


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August 28, 2008, 11:27
EU snubs Georgia for Ossetia crisis summit
There will be no Georgian presence at an emergency session of the EU called to discuss the situation in South Ossetia. The September 1 meeting has seen France, which currently holds EU presidency, vote against inviting Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili.
Saakashvili has said he would not travel anyway because he feared Russia could prevent him from returning to Georgia.

The meeting was called by the French President Nicolas Sarkozy at the request of Poland and other East European countries.

The one-day summit will only last three hours, but will feature addresses from 27 leaders.

Meanwhile, Russia's president has spoken by telephone with Sarkozy. Dmitry Medvedev gave Moscow's views on the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, stressing that, in line with the six point plan, Georgian troops have to be moved back to their barracks.

-- August 29, 2008 6:07 PM


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'Topol-M' missile (AFP Photo / Maxim Shipenkov)August 28, 2008, 18:22
Russia tests intercontinental missile in Kamchatka
Russia has successfully tested an intercontinental ballistic missile. The country's Defence Ministry has reported that it hit the target on the testing ground in the far eastern region of Kamchatka.

The Ministry claims the weapon is capable of bypassing the most advanced missile defence systems.

Although it has been on stand-by for 21 years, the Ministry said the weapon has shown it can effectively hit high-security facilities.

-- August 29, 2008 6:10 PM


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Now Obama wants experience?
August 29, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Since when did Barack Obama value experience so highly?
QUOTE:

Barack Obama’s campaign is blasting John McCain for putting “the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.”

The scathing description of Sarah Palin, from Obama spokesman Bill Burton, comes as Democrats scramble to gather a response to a selection that nobody in the political world expected.

“Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same,” added Burton.

==end quote==

What a desperate statement! Here’s Barack Obama on his massive foreign-policy credentials:
QUOTE:

To counter opponents’ accusations that he lacks experience in foreign policy, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois often cites his ties to relatives in poor villages in Kenya and the years he spent growing up in Indonesia. Now he has added a new personal detail to that résumé: a trip to Pakistan while a college student.

==end quote==

Wow. So his mother took him to live in Indonesia when he was eight, and he took a trip in college. Meanwhile, Palin has governed a state surrounded by foreign nations. Which has the practical experience in foreign policy and diplomacy?

During the entire primary campaign, Obama kept telling voters that his judgment overruled his lack of experience. Now, suddenly, it doesn’t — but that puts Barack Obama at the same level as Sarah Palin, or even below, as Palin has the executive experience that Obama lacks. Moreover, Palin has spent her time in politics actually accomplishing reform and challenging the political machine in her own party. Did Obama do that?

And let’s not forget that Palin is running for the Vice Presidency. Obama, with his complete lack of the experience his campaign now suddenly believes is crucial for the job, wants to be President.

This is a foolish, bitter, and tone-deaf message. As one source close to the McCain campaign put it, “We already know what Barack Obama thinks about small town America. But the bitterness of the Obama campaign’s knee jerk attack says more about them than anything else.”

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-- August 29, 2008 6:11 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

AFP Photo / Bertrand GuayAugust 28, 2008, 20:37
EU considers sanctions against Russia
Russia's decision to recognise the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has prompted a strong reaction from the European Union, with French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner saying that sanctions and other measures are being considered.

However France, which currently holds EU's rotating presidency, gave no further details on what the sanctions would entail.

Meanwhile, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says the Russian authorities have heard nothing about any EU sanctions against the country.

Moscow insists it is acting in full compliance with the six-point peace deal hammered out in mid-August between Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy.

-- August 29, 2008 6:13 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

Russia’s Ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin (AFP Photo / Mario Tama)August 29, 2008, 11:44
Russia: UN hypocritical over Abkhazia and South Ossetia independence
The UN Security Council has double standards over Abkhazia and South Ossetia’s independence, according to Russia’s Ambassador to the UN. Vitaly Churkin said members of the Council don’t understand the essence of the conflicts in the Caucasus.

The comments were made when the UN Security Council convened on Thursday to discuss Russia’s recognition of statehood for Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

The meeting, called at the request of Georgia, saw a barrage of criticism over Moscow's actions.

“Russia violated the security zone patrolled by UN peacekeeping forces deployed by the UN Security Council,” said Alejandro Daniel Wolff, U.S. Representative to the UN. “In Abkhazia, Russia is violating not only the territorial integrity of Georgia, but also the integrity of this Council."

Russia's support for the independence of the two republics was officially put on record at the UN as Vitaly Churkin read out President Medvedev's decrees. He also said the discussions could not be complete without listening to representatives of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

In response, Georgia’s Ambassador, Irakli Alasania, called for action.

"We believe the Russian side should be delivered a very strong message,” he said. “Otherwise it would mean that the foreign-sponsored groups around the world can use violence and ethnic cleansing and be rewarded with independence."

But Churkin said the international community had failed to act when Georgia launched an invasion into South Ossetia, even accusing some members of fueling the conflict.

“The U.S. and some European states promised Mr Saakashvili NATO's protection and have started supplying him with new weapons. It obviously invites fresh provocations,” Churkin said.

He also said that Moscow had called for a ceasefire in the early hours of the conflict but got no support.

When the U.S. argued that Russian troops should never have entered a sovereign state, Moscow’s Ambassador referred back to the Iraq war, attacking America’s precarious position on the moral high ground.

“I would like to ask the distinguished representative of the United States....Weapons of Mass Destruction. Have you found them in Iraq yet or are you still looking for them?” Churkin said.

So, the meeting ended with the Security Council no closer to finding a way forward in the dispute.


-- August 29, 2008 6:16 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

August 29, 2008, 21:22
Death toll in South Ossetia still unknown - European watchdog
A leading European watchdog says the death toll from the conflict in South Ossetia is probably more than estimates suggest.

On a visit to Moscow, Thomas Hammarberg, the Council of Europe's Human Rights Commissioner, met Russian officials to discuss what's being done to restore peace in South Ossetia.

While Hammarberg refused to confirm the estimates of over one and a half thousand dead provided by Russia, he said the number was likely to be significantly higher than the dozens mentioned by Human Rights Watch, as many of the dead were likely to be buried privately or remain missing.

“The figures given by such organisations as America’s Human Rights Watch are based on the number of identified bodies. Now the exact death toll is not known,” he said.

The Russian side estimates the human losses at about 2,000 people while the Georgian side claims the figure is much lower.

“But the whereabouts of many people is currently not known and it’s not clear whether they are dead or not. Many may be still hiding,” he said. “Moreover, not all burial places have been detected.”

He added he didn’t want to politicise the issue, as solving humanitarian problems is what will help stabilise the situation in the South Ossetian conflict zone.

In his opinion for the countries involved, the military and political crisis has overshadowed a humanitarian catastrophe.

Hammarberg also said it is very important to have an unofficial Georgian-Ossetian mechanism for exchanging information about missing and captive people on both sides, while the international community must take part in collecting evidence of the cases of genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Georgia-Ossetia conflict zone.

100,000 displaced

International organisations say nearly 100,000 have been displaced by the conflict. Some were forced out. Others fled, fearing war or reprisals.

Both Ossetians and Georgians remain in refugee camps outside the republic. Continuing international disagreements around the future status of South Ossetia, and its Georgian minority, have left some Georgians saying they are unsure they will ever return.

Hammarberg also spoke of a "policing vacuum" which meant citizens were still not be safe from looting, robbery and violence.

“The return is a right, but the right will not be real until they get assurances,” Hammarberg said.

Hammerberg helped orchestrate a final prisoner exchange between Tbilisi and Tskhinval on Wednesday. But the European official claims some prisoners may still be held by private citizens or militias.

-- August 29, 2008 6:19 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

August 29, 2008, 16:20
Russia urges objective stance from EU on South Ossetia
Moscow says it hopes that the European Union will change its stance on events in South Ossetia. Andrey Nesterenko, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister, said on Friday that the EU should seek to avoid a possible standoff with Russia.

"We hope that common sense will prevail over emotions and that EU leaders will find strength to renounce unilateral assessment of the conflict and will give an independent, objective description of the situation and its causes," he said.

Moscow also expressed hopes that the UN Security Council will hear Abkhazia and South Ossetia's opinions when the settlement of the Georgian-Abkhaz and Georgian-Ossetian conflicts is discussed.

"In the future, the discussion of this issue can't go without Abkhaz and South Ossetian representatives participating," said Nesterenko.

Meanwhile, Nesterenko has announced that the Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) will discuss Russia's recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia at an upcoming session of its council in Moscow on September 5.

-- August 29, 2008 6:22 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, another article.

August 29, 2008, 18:45
Diplomatic solution vital in the Caucasus - Tajik president
Tajik president Emomali Rahmon has said that diplomacy must be pursued in the Caucasus after talks with Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev. The bilateral meeting came the day after leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation backed Russia’s peacekeeping role in South Ossetia in a joint declaration.
“Diplomatic solutions are my preference for solving disputes," Rahmon told a news conference in Dushanbe.

Russia's decision to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia will also be considered by the Collective Security Treaty Organisation at a Moscow summit on Monday.

First visit

This is the Russian President’s first visit to Tajikistan and the talks focused on bilateral cooperation and trade.

Medvedev recognised the successful advancement of joint hydro energy projects and announced new plans for expanding industrial and scientific cooperation.

He also said that besides the construction of the Sangtuda and Ragun hydro-power plants, Russia will take part in the construction of three generating facilities on Tajikistan's internal rivers.

"Cooperation in uranium and gas extraction will be broadened. If we work successfully, Tajikistan will have gas of its own in about three years," Medvedev said.

-- August 29, 2008 6:25 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

August 29, 2008, 20:07
No Russian bases in South Ossetia
The Russian Foreign Ministry has denied suggestions that Russian military bases will be located in South Ossetia. It says Russia is currently working on a cooperation deal with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but that it’s too early to assess where this might lead.

The cooperation agreement is expected to be signed on September 2.

The authorities of the disputed republic had previously claimed that deploying two bases would be part of a future cooperation agreement with Moscow.

Russia's foreign ministry says that this statement might have been premature.

-- August 29, 2008 6:28 PM


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AFP Photo / Alexey DruzhininAugust 30, 2008, 0:37
Putin: Russia won’t be isolated
Russia will not be isolated because it protected its citizens and upheld its peacekeeping mission, the Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said. In an interview on German TV, Putin suggested that if Russia had not responded to Georgian aggression, there could have been a tragedy along the scale of what happened in the former Yugoslavia.

“I think a country like Russia, that protected its citizens, and fulfilled its peacekeeping duties, won't be held in isolation, no matter what our partners think within the limits of their bloc. Europe and the U.S. are not the whole world,” he said.

He recalled the Srebrenica massacre, when thousands were killed when Dutch peacekeepers didn't intervene in the Balkan war.

The Prime Minister insisted that the Georgian government should be held responsible for its action.

“Speaking about the Georgian leadership, people who wreck the territorial integrity and national identity of their country with their actions shouldn't be ruling that country, be it big or small. They should resign straight away,” he said.

”Of course, it's up to them, but we all remember the precedents that we have in history. Let's remember how U.S. troops entered Iraq, and what they did with Saddam Hussein for destroying several Shiite villages. Here, ten Ossetian villages were destroyed right out,” Putin told ARD TV.

"Aren’t you aware of what’s been going on in Georgia in the last few years? The mysterious death of Prime Mnister Zhvania, fighting with the opposition, the violent dispersal of protest demonstrations, holding a national election during a practical state of emergency, and now this criminal action in South Ossetia with many casualties. You call it a democratic country, negotiating with it, and thinking it should be admitted to NATO and the EU?"

Putin said the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict should be dealt within the frame of international law.

“We don’t have any special rules of our own by which we are going to play. We want everybody to play by the same rules. These are called international law. But we don’t want anyone manipulating them - playing it one way in one region, and another way in another region, to suit their own interests. We want to have the same rules for everyone, which would take into account the interests of all members of the international community”.

Putin underlined that Russia wants neighbourly relations with other countries.

"Russia isn't out to aggravate the situation, or to put pressure on anyone. We want good neighbourly relations and partnerships with everyone," he said.

-- August 29, 2008 6:30 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

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Georgia's ParliamentAugust 29, 2008, 23:18
Georgia pulls all diplomats from Russia
Tbilisi has announced it will sever all diplomatic ties with Moscow within the next 24 hours. All Georgian diplomats will be recalled from Russia on Saturday, according to the country’s Deputy Foreign Minister Grigol Vashadze. Earlier, its parliament declared that all Russian troops in the conflict zone were ‘occupiers’.

Russia has expressed deep regret at the decision. Andrey Nesterenko, a spokesperson for the country’s Foreign Ministry, said: “It’s not the choice of Russia. And the responsibility will rest with Georgia.”

The Foreign Ministry said if such a move were taken, Moscow would have no choice but to close its Embassy in Tbilisi. But Moscow insists this doesn't signal the end to all Georgia-Russia relations.

“If such a decision is taken by the Georgian authorities, it is going to be a serious, if not dramatic blow,” said Nesterenko.

“First of all, to the Georgians, all Georgians living in the Russian Federation. At the same time, we are going to lose direct, official link of communication,” he added.

Russia's Ambassador to Georgia, Vyacheslav Kovalenko, said the news of Georgia's planned recall of diplomats took him totally by surprise. And he, like everyone else, will have to wait and see if this latest twist in the ongoing war of words comes to fruition.

The Russian Foreign Ministry has not yet received an official confirmation of the Georgian decision to break off diplomatic relations.

The Georgian Consulate, however, will continue operating in Russia, the Georgian Foreign Ministry said.

"This decision does not mean that, for instance, contacts between the two countries’ foreign ministries will be severed completely,” said Vashadze. “Such meetings are possible on territories of third countries."

Russia’s State Duma’s Foreign Affairs Committee has also said consular ties will remain, as Russia remains committed to building ties with the Georgian people.

The resolution issued by the Georgian parliament said all military units, except those allowed by the Georgian constitution, are illegal. Thursday’s sitting of parliament instructed the country’s government to sever diplomatic relations with Russia.

Earlier this week, Tbilisi recalled most of its embassy staff from Moscow.

The parliament has also called on the government to cancel all agreements which allow Russian peacekeepers to remain in the disputed republics. These include the UN-backed ceasefire deals of the 1990s.

The Georgian military launched an attack against South Ossetia on August 8, 2008.

Shortly afterwards, Russia called an emergency session of the UN Security Council in an attempt to end the Georgian aggression, but it didn’t bring any results.

Taking into consideration that many in South Ossetia had Russian passports, President Dmitry Medvedev ordered elements of Russia’s 58th Army to enter the conflict zone – the move Georgia called an invasion.

On Tuesday Russia recognised the independence of the republics of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Moscow says the decision to break off ties will not have a negative impact on Russia.

Konstantin Kosachev, Head of the Russian State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee, said: “Of course it will be a regrettable step. Even though we may have different views on the conflict, Russia and Georgia are still neighbours. I’m sure both are equally interested in developing partnership and co-operation. Our relationship is not built around this conflict only. I’m deeply convinced that even now the relationship between the two nations still remains normal.”

-- August 29, 2008 6:35 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

This seems to be last article posted to Russia Today. It maybe nothing, but then again---what to make of the entitled, "Alledged Terrorist Attack."
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August 30, 2008, 1:06
One killed, ten injured in alleged terrorist attack
There are reports a serviceman has been killed and another ten wounded in a terrorist attack in Russia's southern Republic of Chechnya. The incident took place in the town of Vedeno, where Russian Interior Ministry troops have been stationed.

Russain RIA Novosti news agency quotes the commander of a batalion in the area as saying two suicide bombers entered the territory in a car stuffed with explosives.

Investigators are now looking into the case.

-- August 29, 2008 6:39 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

Back to Israeli News.
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Hizballah high-up falls to his death at rocket pad on Israeli border
DEBKAfile Special Report

August 27, 2008, 12:47 PM (GMT+02:00)


A Hizballah bunker close to Israeli border
The geography of the accident Tuesday, Aug. 26, belied the reiterated claims of Israeli ministers and UN officials that Hizballah’s rockets had been pushed back from the Lebanese-Israeli border, under the terms of the Resolution 1701 ceasefire which ended the 2006 Lebanon War.

Jamal Amin Salah, 51, a Hizballah operations executive, stood on the rooftop of a building at the Lebanese Yaroun village, less than half a kilometer from the Israeli border. He was discussing with his men how far inside Israeli territory the rockets installed at the launch pads in the village could reach, when he fell to his death.

DEBKAfile’s military sources confirm that, not only has Hizballah returned to its old positions on the Israeli border - contradicting statements by prime minister Ehud Olmert and defense minister Ehud Barak - but the Iran-backed Shiite terrorists are working feverishly on the construction of a new line of fortified military positions, including rocket-launching pads, right on top of the Israeli border fence.

Neither Israeli Defense Forces nor UN peacekeepers have interfered with this barefaced violation of international agreements.

Wednesday, Aug. 27, Israel’s security cabinet convened to discuss homeland defenses in an emergency.

Dep. defense minister, Matan Vilnai, told an interviewer that every corner of Israel was now within range of enemy missiles. He reaffirmed that Syrian and Hizballah arsenals hold tens of thousands of rockets and missiles, which he described as an even greater danger than Iranian missiles. He said the new National Homeland Defense Authority which he heads would soon present proposals for improving security on the home front. They would be “primarily legislative,” he said.

That is the root of the problem, say DEBKAfile’s military sources.

New laws will not keep the civilian population safe from missile attack; nor will any purely defensive measures. The Israeli army’s passivity, enforced by the government, has left Syria and Hizballah free to amass tens of thousands of missiles and constantly augment their fortified launching sites in places like Yaroun.

The 40,000 missiles now in Hizballah’s hands were delivered by ships and trucks across routes starting in Syria and ending in Lebanon. Senior military sources ask: Why were Israeli forces not instructed to destroy these convoys and blow up the missile dumps? Surely not because of the farcical indirect Israel-Syrian “peace talks.”

Israeli ministers talked Wednesday about protecting the population by “legislation,” while admitting that every part of the country is now vulnerable to missile attack.

-- August 29, 2008 6:47 PM


Tim Bitts wrote:

Tsalagi,

the weakness of the American position is that the world does not know yet who will be the next American president. So the leader of Iraq has to triangulate power. He knows the Iranians are weaker than America, but they will still live next door in 5 years. But will American troops still be in Iraq in 5 years? No one really know, we're all just guessing.

But with John McCain elected, America will deal more from power. Taking a measure of the man, he ia man to be feared and respected by foreign leaders. Not so much for Obama. Obama doesn't want any involvement in war, and probably thinks the war on terror, and the war in Iraq, is just a cooked up bogus scam, by the Republicans. Obama will be looked at as weak, by foreign governments, who generally only respect strength.

I think Obama is full of it, and if he gets in, will be forced to respond to ugly situations, whether he likes it or not, and to order American troops to do things he'd rather not do.

So I think the leader of Iraq thinks he's free to get close to Iran. But if things change, and there is a war with Iran, everything changes, including the leader of Iraq.

-- August 29, 2008 6:50 PM


cornishboy wrote:

-- August 29, 2008 10:42 PM


cornishboy wrote:

General sees an economic boom for Iraq
'Great potential in the months ahead' http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1195697.html#MI_Comments_Link

-- August 29, 2008 10:45 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

I ran across a piece of information that USA and Israeli satellites have seen in the port of Tarsus, Syria that the Syrians are widening the port to take in Russian Warships as a permanent port. I know that the USA 7th Fleet controls the Mediterrean Sea---and USA war ships on their way from the Indian Ocean.

I am not sure what the USA? Nato? and Israel? are intending to do about this situation. It is reported that Nato, USA and Israel view this situation as Russia's bid to move it's forces further south. Remember my writing about the Russian's wanting to conquer the land all the way to the Indian Ocean. Apparently, Washington/Israel and possibly Nato may believe this is Russia bid to start the Cold War all over again in being aggressive militarily. What are Russia's motives?.

Then of course, there are the other factors that are happening with Lebanon, Gaza, Hamas, Iran, Syria and Egypt. They seem to be tied together. All of these items happening at the same time cannot be by chance.

It appears that Russia is working with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Hamas and possibly Egypt and Saudia Arabia. Egypt has not come up with a peace plan until this percise moment on Gaza. Why now? Egypt wants Israel to give up land conquered during the 1967 war.

Much prayer is needed for our leaders, especially President Bush, Condi Rice, and our military personnel.

I am also wondering, what you all are thinking about these military movements and our part (United States of America) in it. Again, (because I am not privy to what is happening in the background)--- I am hoping that America has the high moral ground in this conflict; and that we did not start this situation with the Georgia government by having military personnel (CIA,NSA) fighting with the Georgians in their attack on South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Well, if anyone else has read anything else on situation, speak up.

Thanks,

Laura Parker

I know that the United States has denied involvment in Georgia's attacking South Ossetia and Abkhazia. However, I am wondering about that USA passport that the Russians stated they found in the name of Terry Lee White of Texas. Who is this person?. It seems too specific for there not to be something to it.

Any thoughts on this situation?.


-- August 30, 2008 12:22 AM


Laura Parker wrote:

All,

An article from Italian news.
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Security
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Iran: Tensions between US and Russia behind nuclear push, says expert


Tehran, 29 August (AKI) - Iran's decision to step up its nuclear programme was a bid to exploit the current tensions between the US and Russia, a leading Middle East expert said on Friday.

Sami Al-Faraj, director of the Kuwait Center for Strategic Studies, expressed concern in an interview with Adnkronos International (AKI), after an announcement by Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister, Ali-Reza Sheikh Attar.

"Iran is certainly taking advantage of the crisis in relations between Moscow and Washington in order to develop its nuclear technology," he told AKI.

Ali-Reza Sheikh Attar said Friday that Iran has nearly 4,000 working centrifuges at its nuclear facility at Natanz and another 3,000 were being installed.

Attar's comments were made on Iranian state television and reported by the official Iranian news agency, IRNA.

The 4,000 figure is in line with United Nations estimates but lower than the 5,000 cited last month by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Faraj said the Russians and the Iranians may have reached a political accord during the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization held in Tashkent in Uzbekistan on Thursday.

"Russia has sought the political support of countries in the organisation, among them China, but received a cool response. Iran could work to convince countries that are members of the SCO, like Kazakhstan and Kirghizistan, to support the Russian position in Georgia.

"In exchange, Tehran would have strong political support for its nuclear programme."

At the same time however, he warned that a possible intensification of Iran's nuclear programme could become "a big problem for the international community" because it comes at a time of great tension in the Middle East.

Referring to the UN Security Council's anti-Iran resolutions, Attar said that the sanctions were futile and ineffective.

"Had westerners become certain that the resolutions would bring us down to our knees, they would have definitely intensified them (the sanctions)," he said.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said last month Iran had more than 5,000 centrifuges.

But a diplomat close to the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, which routinely checks Iranian nuclear sites, said Ahmadinejad appeared to have overstated the number by at least 1,000.


-- August 30, 2008 1:26 AM


Sara wrote:

Dem Boykin: Palin 'Affirmative Action' Pick
By Mark Finkelstein
August 29, 2008

Of all the criticisms an apparently panicky Dem party has heaped on Sarah Palin in the hours since her selection was announced, Keith Boykin has come up with perhaps the unseemliest. The former aide to President Clinton has accused Palin of being an "affirmative action" pick.

Boykin, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard Law, was debating the selection with Republican Joe Watkins at the end of MSNBC's 4 PM EDT hour. After some preliminary jousting, Boykin dropped his bomb.
QUOTE:

KEITH BOYKIN Let me just say something about this choice. The reason why she doesn't help, quite frankly, is because it's an insult. It's an insult to women. I spoke to several women today at the Democratic National Convention who said it's insulting John McCain would pick somebody—an affirmative-action candidate basically—who is not qualified.

==end quote==

I reject the notion that the very impressive Palin is an affirmative-action pick. The wave of enthusiasm she has unleashed among Republicans, and the sinking feeling apparent among Dems, is testament to that.

But in any case, is Boykin signalling that Obama has flip-flopped on yet another issue? When will the Dem candidate be holding his press conference announcing his new-found opposition to affirmative action?

Comments:

1) The Incredibly Irony... by ReaganConservative86

Do the Dems seriously want to contest the "experience" issue? Gov. Palin, an accomplished reformer governor, former mayor, and all-around genuine person, has dramatically more experience than Barack Obama. Obama started running for president even before he had assumed his Senate seat. This is a ridiculous charge by the Democrats, and it will come back to hurt them 100 fold.

2) Uh no Keith, the affirmative by winston smith

Uh no Keith, the affirmative action pick was made in the Democrat party this year with the presidential nomination of a Senator who hasen't even served one full year of his first term.

I heard Obama has never even held a real job.

3) The dems are just afraid by ksennish

The dems are just afraid because they thought they had the election with their minority appointment and were hoping to guilt trip and pull the racist card. Now, the GOP has matched them with an actually experienced candidate and the Dems are left with their feet in their mouths.

4) Can you say CHAOS? by NorthCoaster

Can you say CHAOS?

The Dem apologists had such great plans for throwing stones at the Republican V.P. pick, because they thought they knew it would be a male politician with baggage.

Now they're in a tizzie and don't know of anything better to do than call Sarah names? I guess it's the same thing that was done to Condie Rice, Colin Powell and anyone else of character and ability chosen by the Republicans.

5) I spoke to several women by MidAmerica

I spoke to several women today at the Democratic National Convention who said it's insulting John McCain would pick somebody—an affirmative-action candidate basically—who is not qualified.

Hey!... did he just say that affirmative action puts people in positions they are not qualified for?

6) SickofLibs, it makes me wonder... by goldenthroat

If this moron would have used the term "affirmative action" had Sarah Palin been black?

Oops - now I am a racist, right?

7) OMG you are right! I was by USA4freedom

Hey Genius: Palin is an insult to women? HA HA HA HA! Check out the Hillary forums, you friggin' idiot. - SickofLibs

OMG you are right!

I was just reading some of the forums..

They are jumping ship like it was the Titanic..

Pull up some of the blogs, these women are PISSED.

I cant wait to see the polls..

All the Obama campaign has managed to do is showcase how even the bottom of the McCain/Palin ticket has more experience than the top of the Obama/Biden ticket. Too funny!

8) If Gov. Palin were on the by motherbelt

If Gov. Palin were on the Democratic ticket, Keith Olbermann would be out there right now, extolling how her small-town roots and inexperience were a PLUS (you know, like Joe Biden's big mouth).

This whole thing has got me ROFL.

Especially Boykin coming right out and admitting that affirmative action picks are "unqualified."

A liberal just admitted that affirmative action is an injustice?

Panic does awful things to liberals.

9) Desperation Time by tbbaxter

Democrats are understandably upset; they just witnessed their chances for the White House go up in funny-smelling smoke once again, as if the speech their presidental nominee gave last night didn't do it first. Democrats need to face the fact that the majority of Americans, the ones Obama describes as bitter people who cling to their guns and religion, the ones that Barack says he has visited in all 57 states, are more conservative and cherish the true family values, the very values that their party rejects. However, I am sure that if Obama can get Rev. Jeremiah "g-damn America" Wright and Rev. Michael "you mean I'm going to stay this color" Fleger, or his good friend, upstanding citizen and homegrown terrorist William Ayers together and go on tour with him and Biden, the heartland of America will certainly embrace them wholeheartedly and reject a true agent of change, veteran John McCain and Sarah Palin, a true conservative who exposed and fought corruption in her own party and won, and has an 80% approval rating as Governor. By the way, she also has more business and executive experience than both Barack Obama and Joseph Biden, who is in the pockets of credit card companies in Delaware.
Boy, tough choice for America, huh?

10) Hard to tell who the Dems are criticizing by krendler

Funny watching the Obama surrogates chasing their tails on this experience/qualification thing - Just as McCain and Co intended, I'm sure.

Any utterance about Palin by them can easily and logically be countered with "Now, just to be clear, are you talking about Gov. Palin or Senator Obama - a guy who served 12 months in the US senate before announcing he was running for president?"

The fear and anger in the voice of some Obama surrogate David Gregory just interviewed was off the charts. She concluded her rambling shriek-fest by declaring Palin's choice as an "insult to women".

LOVE IT. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

11) On FoxNews "Special Report" by Chris Norman

On FoxNews "Special Report" today, Mort Kondrake had the audacity to compare Palin's experience unfavorably to Obama's, suggesting that because Obama has been running for president "a long time" and has "thought about the big issues" he was more qualified. Bill Kristol just withered him with mockery, saying that was typical "inside the beltway" thought and confirmed the brilliance of McCain's choice. He cited one reporter's criticism of Palin as "never before having appeared on Meet the Press". These people are so twisted up in knots, they can't even come up with anything other than sheer silliness.

12) Affirmative Action pick? by GregE

Affirmative Action pick? Funny he says that. So if confronted and questioned about his thoughts on Affirmative Action, he'd probably be for it, even though what it does (according to what he just said) is help unqualified people get into places and positions. Ohhhhhh the hypocrisy is too thick to breathe.

13) Palin by donsaliman

It is playing out all over again.

Democrats do something, its great, when Republicans do it, its bad.

Example, unemployment 5.7 under Clinton, great unemployment under Bush 5.7 bad.

It was OK that Clinton ran off to escape the draft, it should not stop him for running for President, Bush did National Guard and missed out on a few training missions, he is not fit to be President.

Obama running for President is an African American, he did it on his own, Rice and Powell both African Americans but they are " Uncle Toms"

Hillery as women, the same as Obama, Palin is a "affirmative action" pick.

Does something sound familiar?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/08/29/dem-boykin-palin-affirmative-action-pick

-- August 30, 2008 12:45 PM


cornishboy wrote:


Suffering traders and staff with the new policy of deposit in banks and clouds of Babel

New suffering began to emerge in the province of Babylon on the decision of banks not to receipt of currencies from the category of 250 dinars and a thousand dinars pretext that a central decision, with traders and owners complain about the assignee of the inability to deposit funds with small currency On the other hand, when they wish to withdraw the balance of the grant only surprise of a group of currencies Small. This suffering has not only the traders but also included staff. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iraqhurr.org%2F&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

-- August 30, 2008 1:33 PM


cornishboy wrote:


Economists call for a plan to reduce the prices of commodities and consumer goods

Economists stressed the necessity of moving government agencies to develop a comprehensive plan aimed at reducing the prices of commodities and consumer goods in local markets, which rose despite the sudden decline in inflation indices for the last two months as the devaluation of the dinar over the dollar ..

They unanimously told the chatter in the independent press (Iba) today, Friday, that the wave of high commodity prices witnessed by the markets now add further pressure on the financial situation of private citizens with limited income. He said Dr. Nabil al-Saidi, economy professor at the Faculty of Administration and Economy that despite the decisions taken by the government recently increased salaries and improved living and reduce ramifications of the devaluation of the dollar, but the purchasing power is not required level and low, which means a gradual erosion of the value of actual savings.

He added that the increase in the salaries of employees, retirees and beneficiaries of the legal care and security commensurate with the substantial increase in prices, but raise the prices of materials by traders pretext of the existence of substantial funds to the citizen requires an effort to stop acts of self-massage for only greed and greed.

He went on to Saidi no justification for raising prices especially since inflation indices fell by continuing policies of the Central Bank to raise the value of local currency, if Maalmna that merchants buy the dollar, which dropped its value during the last year till now. He called for the enactment of laws limiting individual deal by businessman with prices to impact on the citizens.

For her part, Dr. Inas unitary Professor at the same college that there is no immediate solution to this problem only developed a comprehensive plan to reduce the prices of commodities and consumer goods markets in coordination with local businessmen. She says that the government used the compromise in the balance with consumer prices, which lifted salaries and working out the devaluation of the dollar to control inflation and its effects.

And follows the dollar decline is due to the head which caused slow economic growth rate in the United States, and the effect of economic sectors including the banking sector an important addition to the real estate sector which reduced the value of the U.S. equity markets globally and valuable raw materials, therefore, Iraq is part of the world affected by what is happening economically , And rising consumer prices and food and commodity requires government stance and follow-up to restore balance to the market.

They pointed out that the unitary Iraqi people rather than the entire staff so that it can resist "M'zajiat traders" in raising prices, she wondered how the government can achieve economic prosperity and living if not follow price movements?.

For his part, called Said Fayyad from the Centre for Economic Studies and Research government to work apparatus Central prices, which cancelled its work in the eighties. His body abolished by Labour in that period was a political decision to establish the economic security that have proved a failure as the employees who were recruited by corrupt administrative and paved the way to a loss of control over prices. He added that restructuring of this body will lead to controls to curb rising prices or failure to provide products protected by patent in the market or put up unfair conditions, and therefore the State has dominated the high prices.
Fayyad explained that the high prices of foodstuffs in Iraq is linked to several elements such as relations of supply and demand in the market and oil prices and climate changes and the development of bioenergy.

However, only saying that the devaluation of the dollar globally imposes an important point and a realistic price reduction, pointing out that it was unfair that the dealer sells twice the price of the original article twice or three.

He stressed the need to move the government to develop a plan to reduce the prices of commodities and consumer goods in the domestic markets.

It is noteworthy that the wave of price rises which swept the recent local markets for several reasons, observers unjustified accused merchants of greed linked to the lifting of staff salaries.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.hewarat.dk/cat200.php%3Fsid%3D9832

-- August 30, 2008 2:00 PM


Sara wrote:

Political one: to refer the file of Iraq's debt to the Arab League Council

Transmitted by the Economic and Social Council at the Arab League to cancel the debt of the file on Iraq to the Arab League Council, while a Kuwaiti source disclosed that a high-level Kuwaiti government will apply to the National Council to extinguish the debt of Iraq.

This came in the final statement of the Council's work in its collection 82, in which Minister of Economy, Trade and Finance Arab members of the Council following a request by the head of the delegation and Iraqi Trade Minister Dr. Abdullah Sudanese farmer who is interested and figured prominently in the agenda of the session.

The Council's agenda at Arab League headquarters in Cairo and concluded Thursday, many of the issues and topics related to the Arab affairs, in addition to discussing preparations for the meetings of the Arab Economic Summit being held in Kuwait in January next year.

He said Assistant Secretary-General of the Arab League for Economic Affairs Ambassador Mohammed Bin Ibrahim Tuwaijri: The agenda of the session as well as to ensure the item on Iraq's request to consider the implications of debt cancellation in favour of Arab States, the issue of amending the Statute of the Court of Arab investment and the Statute of the Council of Arab tourism ministers, and two The first concerns the essential preparations for the Arab summit, economic and social development and to be held in Kuwait and the second deals with the Arab free trade zone which is the centre of a permanent work of the Economic and Social Council, pointing out that there is a special focus in this session to address non-tariff items, including items and quantity of cash, technical and administrative Imposed on the product imported from the Arab-Arab and Arab-origin and enjoys the framework of following up the implementation of decisions of Arab summits in this regard.

For his part, Kuwaiti source said high-ranking Kuwaiti government will submit a request to drop the loans and debts owed to Kuwait on Iraq to the National Assembly session convened to come, pointing out that this step comes in the wake of what was done by Saudi Arabia, UAE and several countries in the region rout of Iraqi debt. The source told press that the Iraqi debt forgiveness may be in accordance with constitutional procedures followed and after returning to the nation's estimated debts of Kuwait to Iraq, according to sources around 16 billion dollars in grants had been paid to the first.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.alsabaah.com/&sa=X&oi=translate%20&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwww.alsabaah.com%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dmozilla%26rls%3Dorg.moz%20illa:en-US:unofficial

-- August 30, 2008 2:31 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq election law must pass mid-Sept for 2008 vote
By Khalid al-Ansary
August 30, 2008

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's parliament must pass a contentious elections law by mid-September in order to allow anticipated provincial polls to be held this year, the Electoral Commission said on Saturday.

"If the law is passed by September 9 or 10, we can hold the elections on December 22. If it's later than that, we will try for December 31," Commission head Faraj al-Haidari told Reuters.

If the elections law has not been passed by then, the polls will slip into next year.

The vote is seen as important in helping the government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki translate the sharp drop in violence over the last year into progress in rebuilding Iraq's economy and infrastructure, reforming and modernizing government, and fending off renewed bloodshed.

Yet it will not be easy for lawmakers, who are due to resume work around September 9, to quickly resolve their differences over an explosive issue such as Kirkuk.

Haidari said that, following previous elections, around 17 million Iraqis were registered. Some 2 million have come to election centers to double-check their registration, he said.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2008/08/30/iraq_election_law_must_pass_mid_sept_for_2008_vote/

-- August 30, 2008 2:56 PM


Sara wrote:

Taliban commander believed dead in airstrike
Sat August 30, 2008

(CNN) -- An airstrike by Pakistani fighter jets killed more than 30 Taliban fighters, including an alleged high-ranking Taliban commander, a government spokesman said Saturday.

It happened Friday in Kapisa province, when coalition forces tried to search a compound for a Taliban commander suspected of smuggling weapons into Afghanistan and of conducting attacks on coalition and NATO forces with improvised explosive devices, the coalition said.

Coalition forces came under heavy fire from AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades and told the militants to come out peacefully.

"Several women and children exited the compound and were moved to a safe area at which time coalition forces again came under AK-47 and RPG fire," a coalition statement said. "Coalition forces responded with precision airstrikes, killing several militants."

The U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan also said Saturday that coalition airstrikes had killed several militants in an Afghan province north of the capital, Kabul.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/08/30/taliban.raids/index.html

-- August 30, 2008 3:38 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq's Sadr extends suspension of Mahdi Army activities indefinitely
8/29/2008
SourceXinhuanet

Iraqi Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said Thursday that the suspension of his militia activities would continue indefinitely.

"The suspension of Mahdi Army will continue indefinitely, and anyone breaches this order will not be considered a member of this group," Sadr said in a statement obtained by Xinhua.

"We have a cultural program named the al-Mumahdoon, and everyone should abide by it and whoever disagree would be out of the Army," the statement said.

In last August, Sadr ordered six months freezing of armed activities for his militia and then he extended it in February fora further six months.

However, the statement did not say whether the suspension would include special group that Sadr earlier planned to form in order to fight U.S. troops in Iraq.

In a ceremony in Friday prayers in June in holy Shiite town of Kufa, Sadr said in his statement which was read to his followers that "The resistance of the occupiers will be carried out exclusively by a special group which I will declare later."

http://english.eviewweek.com/Iraq-Sadr-extends-suspension-of-Mahdi-Army-activities-indefinitely.shtml

-- August 30, 2008 4:15 PM


Sara wrote:

Obama speech bounce: nil
August 30, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll today shows the same four-point lead Barack Obama held yesterday over John McCain. This poll, the first to show reaction from Obama’s speech, indicates that Obama didn’t get any more bounce out of his Invesco Field appearance than he received from the Democratic convention as a whole:
QUOTE:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday is the first to include reaction to both Barack Obama’s acceptance speech and John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin to be his running mate. The numbers are little changed since yesterday and show Barack Obama attracting 47% of the vote nationwide while John McCain earns 43%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 49% and McCain 45%.

==end quote==

In other words, except for the fundraising activities associated with it, the Obama speech was essentially a bust. Obama had stumbled into the convention trailing McCain among likely voters and losing momentum all summer long. His team badly fumbled the announcement of Joe Biden as his running mate, and he needed a significant bounce coming out of Denver to put space between him and McCain. Instead, so far Obama has not yet escaped the margin of error — and McCain has his own convention coming this week to steal oxygen from his campaign.

I warned yesterday that the speech was nothing more than the stump speech he gives to the faithful and would find little resonance outside of his own supporters. The Rasmussen poll bears this out.

Sarah Palin has already received a better reception than Joe Biden from voters. Biden initially only received a 39% favorability rating when announced a week ago, and still hasn’t climbed above 50%. In contrast, Palin has a 53% favorability on Day One:
QUOTE:

Sarah Palin made a good first impression. She was unknown nationally before being introduced as the GOP Vice-Presidential pick but is now viewed favorably by 53% of voters nationwide. Her counterpart, Joe Biden, is viewed favorably by 48%. While Palin has made a good first impression, the more significant numbers will come a week from now after the nation has a chance to learn more about her.

==end quote==

In the coming days, we’ll see more of Palin’s impact. Given the media deluge on Palin yesterday and the way Obama’s speech disappeared from the commentariat in the wake of her selection, Obama has probably seen all the mileage he will from it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/30/obama-speech-bounce-nil/

-- August 30, 2008 4:22 PM


Sara wrote:

Video: Huckabee on Palin’s readiness
August 30, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

I have always liked Mike Huckabee, even though in the end I didn’t support him in the run for the Presidency. He has a disarming manner that belies real steel underneath, and last night he proved his value to the GOP in a debate with Alan Colmes. Colmes asked Huckabee whether he really thought Sarah Palin was ready to be President on Day 1, and Huckabee gave the answer of the day:
QUOTE:

AC: Do you believe that Sarah Palin is ready, Day One, if God forbid something happens to John McCain?

MH: I think she’s far more ready to be President if something happens to McCain than Barack Obama would be if something doesn’t happen to McCain.

==end quote==

Colmes tried to make the argument that McCain didn’t show leadership by making this “reactive” pick of Palin. Huckabee laughed this off, saying that Colmes must have been invited inside McCain’s head. However, it’s worthwhile to ask, as I did in my previous post, who really had the reactive pick. Obama picked Joe Biden after the Caucasus blew up and he floundered in his response, while McCain looked prepared, informed, and ready to lead. Suddenly, Biden went from “I’m not the guy” to the running mate within 96 hours.

Would McCain have picked Palin if Obama had selected Hillary Clinton? It may have played against the choice, only because McCain would not have wanted to appear reactive. In this case, he has plenty of reasons for selecting Palin, mostly because of her record on reform and her executive experience, which both Democrats lack entirely. He wanted to “shake up” the race, as ABC reported, but that’s not a reactive impulse, either.

And I find it exceedingly strange that Colmes would accuse the first Republican to name a woman as running mate of not showing “leadership”.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/30/video-huckabee-on-palins-readiness/

Huckabee would have made a great VP in his own right.
His point is well taken and worth repeating.

Sarah Palin is more experienced and ready to assume the Presidency than Barack Hussein Obama is.
Sarah Palin is more experienced and ready to assume the Presidency than Barack Hussein Obama is.
Sarah Palin is more experienced and ready to assume the Presidency than Barack Hussein Obama is.

If the choice were between Palin or Obama for President.. just going by EXPERIENCE, she is more qualified than he is!!

Sara.

-- August 30, 2008 4:31 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

All, an article from Reuters on Turkey.
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Turkey in tight spot between Russia and NATO
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ISTANBUL (Reuters) - NATO-member Turkey is treading a fine line between its loyalty to the alliance and its economic interests in its Black Sea neighbor Russia, with some fearing Ankara could find itself at the frontline of a new Cold War.

Evidence of Turkey's dilemma in the standoff between the West and Russia over its action against Georgia was on display last week, when two U.S. ships sailed through the Istanbul Strait on their way to the Black Sea.

Russia has accused the West of stirring tensions with a NATO naval build-up in the Black Sea following a brief war between Russia and Georgia. A close U.S. ally which aspires to join the European Union, Turkey is the passage way to the sea.

During the Cold War, Turkey was NATO's southern flank, an isolated bulwark on Soviet frontiers. But since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has become Turkey's top trade partner, supplying the majority of Turkey's energy needs.

"(Current tensions) put Turkey in a very tight spot because it is under pressure from Russia and its Western allies," said Wolfango Piccoli, an analyst at the political risk consultancy Eurasia Group.

"Turkey is again a frontline state like in the Cold War, but the difference now is that its dependency on Russia is much bigger," he said.

Turkey fears it is already feeling signs of a possible fallout with Moscow affecting their $38 billion trade.

Ankara has protested to Russia over trade restrictions as 10,000 Turkish trucks are being held at various Russian border crossings. Russia says inspections on Turkish trucks are due to a new customs law, but Turkish officials see darker motives. Continued 1 of 3 parts.

-- August 30, 2008 5:58 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Turkey in tight spot between Russia and NATO
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Learn to Trade with a FREE Guide.Turkish businesses are concerned Turkey could lose $3 billion in the short term if the delays continue, and Turkey's Foreign Trade Minister responded to the move in harsh terms.

"If you harass us, we will you," Turkish newspapers reported Foreign Trade Minister Kursad Tuzmen as telling Russian officials.

ENERGY CARD

Turkey, which neighbors Georgia, has kept a low profile since the outbreak of a brief war between Moscow and Tbilisi earlier this month.

Unlike its Western allies, it has refrained from condemning Russian actions. But NATO members may want a more strident supporter on its eastern frontline.

"(Turkey) must act like a NATO member ... if it wants its place in Trans-Atlantic relations. It became a member years ago, and that means Turkey has to support the steps that NATO takes," a high-level U.S. official was quoted by Sabah daily as saying.

Analysts have also said the United States may want Turkey to change the terms of the Montreux Convention, which regulates shipping traffic through the Bosphorus Strait in Istanbul.

Turkey's dependence on Russian gas and coal, however, may make it difficult for Ankara to take those steps.

Last year Russia provided more than 60 percent of Turkey's imported natural gas through two pipelines as well as 56.4 percent of Turkey's thermal coal, used in the country's power and booming construction sectors. Continued...2 0f 3 parts

-- August 30, 2008 6:01 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Turkey in tight spot between Russia and NATO
Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:58am EDT

Turkey asked Russian state-owned gas company Gazprom to increase its supplies to Turkey after Iran turned off its gas to Turkey to meet its own domestic needs last year.

Potential problems with Russian gas or coal supplies would create large problems for Turkey in the winter.

"On the pipeline there may arise 'technical problems' which means we have real problems ... that means for industry, for consumers, your economy will be harmed," said energy analyst Necdet Pamir.

Turkey has worked hard since the fall of the Soviet Union to become an energy hub delivering Caspian gas and oil to European markets, and the country often boasts of its important geostrategic position.

But if tensions continue to build in the Caucasus, Turkey may not find its position so appealing.

"Turkey's geostrategic importance can sometimes be a liability and this case is an example," said Piccolli.

(Additional reporting by Zerin Elci and Ibon Villelabeitia in Ankara; Editing by Caroline Drees) part 3 of 3.

-- August 30, 2008 6:04 PM


Carole wrote:

Laura,

You can't possibly believe Russian propaganda? Putin stating that America prompted the war in Georgia to enhance Republican chances for the election is prosperous. Putin can say this cause he would and has done the same thing in his own career.

Sara,

Wonderful post from all the contributors. Is that from the "other" site.
You know Sara, for some reason when I think of Sarah Palin coming on the scene, I can't help but th8ik of Ester, in the old testament.
You were soooo right...God is in control and He will answer sooo many prayers. Sarah has sparked the right wing again. I think we have all just been plugging along, just to be faithful to our party,AND to do all possible to avoid Obama. Personally, that big check I usually write to the Republican Party, I just mailed out today because I am now convicted to. Before today I just didn't feel justified to do so. I have been praying about it for weeks.

As excited as we are about this wonderful VP pick, we must remember that people really vote "against" A CANDIDATE. I hope that Mc Cain and Palin relentlessly attack the dark side of the Democratic ticket.

Thanks again for your post.

Carole

-- August 31, 2008 3:56 AM


Sara wrote:

Zogby Poll: Equilibrium in the POTUS Race!
McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
Brash McCain pick of AK Gov. Palin neutralizes historic Obama speech, stunts the Dems' convention bounce
8/30/2008

UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows.

The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.

In other words, the race is a dead heat.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews1547.html

-- August 31, 2008 12:38 PM


Sara wrote:

EU: Maybe we’ll kick Russia out of the G-8
August 31, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Europe has begun discussing tough sanctions on Russia for their imperial invasion of Georgia, and it has Vladimir Putin worried. Normally mild-mannered Germany has broached the idea of freezing Moscow out of the G-7, and Britain has implored its fellow EU partners not to let Russia bully them through energy deliveries. The mood on the Continent has taken a distinct turn away from Russia, and may get worse:
QUOTE:

European heavyweights Germany and Britain questioned Russia’s ties with global institutions on Sunday, a day before EU leaders meet to decide what action to take over the Kremlin’s intervention in Georgia. …

French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who holds the rotating EU presidency, called the summit so the bloc can respond to Russia’s intervention in Georgia and its recognition of independence for two breakaway regions.

“In the light of Russian actions, the EU should review — root and branch — our relationship with Russia,” Brown wrote in a comment published in Britain’s Observer newspaper. He made no mention of possible EU sanctions against Russia.

Referring to Russia’s role as a supplier of more than a quarter of Europe’s gas — which some analysts say has tempered European condemnation — Brown said: “No nation can be allowed to exert an energy stranglehold over Europe.”

Eckart von Klaeden, who holds the foreign policy brief for Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) in parliament, said leading industrial nations should meet as the G7, without Russia, until Russia complies with international demands.

==end quote==

Putin noted that he expects some kind of action, and worries about the potential fracture from the West:
QUOTE:

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has urged EU leaders to show “common sense” and ignore calls for sanctions, while acknowledging Russia was nervous about what’s in store.

“If I were to say that we don’t care, that we were indifferent, I would be lying,” Putin said in an interview to Germany’s ARD television.

The powerful former Kremlin leader offered assurances, saying Russians troops “of course will leave these positions where we are now… We will not remain there forever” and declaring that Russia recognises Ukraine’s borders.

==end quote==

This could get ugly, and quickly. Putin has already threatened the lines of communication recently opened into Afghanistan, which makes the NATO mission more difficult. Russia can also cut off, restrict, or increase the price on oil and gas flowing into Europe. More than a quarter of Europe’s energy comes from Russia, and they can do considerable damage to the EU economy.

However, they do that at the risk to their own. Russia relies on free trade with the West for its own needs. Putin and Medvedev want entry into the WTO, but now may get excluded from the G-8, a major step backwards in integrating themselves into the global markets.

Georgia struck a note of moderation into this debate. They want sanctions on Russia, but do not see any point in isolating Moscow. The Georgians want sanctions targeted to the Russian government — diplomatic sanctions, travel restrictions, and the freezing of assets abroad. That may be a good first step, and a way to pressure the two leaders in Moscow into re-thinking their plans to create version 3 of the Russian Empire.

In any case, Europe and the US must continue pressuring Moscow into retreating from Georgia. The pressure thus far has produced a counterproposal for international peacekeepers through the OCSE to replace Russian troops in Georgia proper. This could be a face-saving way for Putin out of this crisis, but until the last Russian soldier leaves Georgia, one has to consider any of these offers for what it allows Russia, and not how it supposedly restricts Russia. France made that mistake earlier this month, and the West and Georgia cannot afford to make it again.

Comments:

1) To he77 with Putin and Russia. It’s past time to shove back, hard. No G-8, no NATO, no WTO, no joint exercises. - Zorro

2) If Russia pulls out of NATO they should also be required to give up their seat on the UN Security Council. - MSGTAS

3) They’ve got the easy part done, the talking. Now let’s see some action. - TooTall

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/eu-maybe-well-kick-russia-out-of-the-g-8/

-- August 31, 2008 1:01 PM


Sara wrote:

Palin no panic pick: WaPo
August 31, 2008
by Ed Morrissey

Democrats offered a little projection over the weekend and claimed that John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate exposed his panic during their convention, a claim that only made sense if one hadn’t endured it on television. Unfortunately for them, the meme of panic doesn’t apply, nor did it make sense any, given McCain’s position in the polls. The Washington Post reports that McCain favored Palin for months, and that it reflects a deliberate focus on reform and change:
QUOTE:

Their first encounter was last February at the National Governors Association meeting in Washington. Sarah Palin was one of several governors who met privately with Sen. John McCain, by then well on his way to capturing the Republican presidential nomination, and her directness and knowledge were impressive.

Later that day, at a largely social gathering organized by his campaign, McCain spent 15 minutes in private conversation with the first-term Alaska governor. “I remember him talking about her when he came back,” a McCain adviser said. “He said she was an impressive woman. He liked her.” …

Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain’s thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain’s advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.

===end quote==

The media saw the dispatch of Tim Pawlenty and Mitt Romney as an audition for the role of running mate, but that turned out to be hogwash. As one McCain aide told Dan Balz and Robert Barnes, that speculation filled air time but was completely inaccurate. Pawlenty and Romney went to Denver because they’re good and experienced surrogates. In the end, they had Pawlenty leave Denver because of the wild speculation that he was auditioning for VP.

By the time the Democrats began gathering in Denver, McCain had focused on Palin. Last Sunday, he invited her to Arizona for another meeting, and she traveled to Sedona through Flagstaff on Wednesday. After an hour-long meeting and consulting with Cindy McCain privately, he offered Palin the spot, which she accepted. Palin did not fly from Alaska to Dayton on Thursday afternoon; she came straight from Arizona. The private plane on the Anchorage-to-Dayton flight delivered Palin’s family, which found out at the last minute of the decision.

What of Lieberman, Ridge, and Romney? The first two did get serious consideration as options, McCain’s aides say. Romney got vetted but never considered himself a serious candidate, and apparently neither did McCain. Their relationship has improved considerably since the primaries, but in the end, Romney didn’t fit the reform message. Neither did Ridge, and Lieberman may have sent the wrong kind of reform message to the Republican base.

Far from being some sort of panic attack, McCain’s selection of Palin was a deliberate effort to craft a specific message for the general election and for his Presidency, should he win. He wants to challenge his party to recall their reform roots from the Reagan Revolution and the Contract with America. He cannot expect to have that taken seriously or effectively without having a real reformer, and not just a talker, on the ticket with him. He needs the conservative base energized and enthusiastic to make that message effective, and Palin provides both a track record of real reform and energy for the GOP base.

As the Times said on Friday, this shouldn’t surprise anyone. The panic seen from the Left shouldn’t surprise anyone, either. After their so-called reformer picked a 35-year Washington insider as his running mate, the ticket of true reform is obvious to even them.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/palin-no-panic-pick-wapo/

I loved that last quote about the Obama camp: After their so-called reformer picked a 35-year Washington insider as his running mate, the ticket of true reform is obvious to even them.

Sara.

-- August 31, 2008 1:16 PM


Sara wrote:

Anti-war protest may be hampered by arrests
Aug 31, 2008
By AMY FORLITI

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - The largest anti-war protest planned for the Republican National Convention could be hampered by arrests over the weekend.

Six people arrested in a series of police raids two days before the convention is slated to begin could remain in jail until after the main protest is over, police and an attorney working with protesters said.

Attorney Bruce Nestor said those arrested aren't required to appear before a judge until noon on Wednesday. The biggest protest, which is expected to draw up to 50,000 people, is set for Monday.

Some of those arrested in the police sweep - which started Friday night and included raids on a meeting space and four homes in Minneapolis and St. Paul - were organizers for the RNC Welcoming Committee, Nestor said. The group is a self-described anarchist and anti-authoritarian organization that has worked to help other protest groups with food and housing, but has also strategized to map roadways, bridges and access points to aid in disruptive protests.

Police confiscated a variety of materials they said were intended for use in criminal acts, including knives, axes and bomb-making materials.

Assistant St. Paul Police Chief Matt Bostrom said Sunday those arrested had plans to disrupt transportation in the area, damage property and injure others.

http://story.news.ask.com/article/20080831/D92TCQM00.html

Police confiscated a variety of materials they said were intended for use in criminal acts, including knives, axes and bomb-making materials... those arrested had plans to disrupt transportation in the area, damage property and injure others.

Such law-abiding and peaceful people those anti-war peaceniks.. aren't they?

Sara.

-- August 31, 2008 2:22 PM


Sara wrote:

Iraq bonds safer than US banks
August 31, 2008

Iraq's bonds are delivering the biggest returns in emerging markets as oil export revenue bolsters government finances and violence declines.

The country's $2.7bn of 5.8% bonds due in 2028 gained 45% since August 2007, according to Merrill Lynch. Investors demand 4.84 percentage points more in yield to own the debt instead of Treasuries, down from 7.26 percentage points a year ago. This spread is narrower than for notes of some US banks.

Oil exports will climb as high as $86bn this year, more than double the $30bn annual average from 2005 to 2007, helping the country post a $52.3bn budget surplus, according to the US Government Accounting Office.

"The main driver" of the rally is oil revenue, said Gunter Heiland, who manages $12bn in emerging-market debt at JPMorgan Asset Management in New York. "The other is implied US support. It's half a commodity story, half a political story.''

http://www.tribune.ie/business/international/article/2008/aug/31/iraq-bonds-safer-than-us-banks/

-- August 31, 2008 2:28 PM


Sara wrote:

I watched this because I read on a thread about it:

Quote:

I don’t know if yall have seen this yet, but I fell in love all over again this morning. Sarah not only hunts and fishes, She rides a Harley. - 1sttofight

SEE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0

===

Thread quote taken from here:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-hive-still-savoring-the-palin-vp-choice#comment-116801

-- August 31, 2008 3:36 PM


Sara wrote:

The Fighter Pilot and the Moose Hunter
McCain’s V.P. pick has electrified the base—for good reason.
31 August 2008
Lisa Schiffren

By putting the relatively unknown governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, on his presidential ticket, John McCain has demonstrated that rarest of all political qualities: willingness to take a real risk on a serious new venture with great potential. It’s a sign of confidence, not desperation.

If the response from the conservative base is any indication, McCain has hit a home run with the Palin selection. A sullen GOP, set to vote reluctantly, if at all, for the “maverick” (some say unprincipled) senator from Arizona, has suddenly become electrified. In the first 36 hours after McCain announced his pick, $7 million in new contributions poured in online. This isn’t because Palin is making history as the first woman on a GOP ticket. It’s because of the type of woman and politician that she is. She’s a normal person, a mother and wife, who entered politics in 1992 by running for city council in Wasilla, Alaska to oppose tax hikes. She became mayor and swept a bunch of cronies out of the bureaucracy. She ran for, and lost, a race for lieutenant governor. She served on the state’s Oil and Gas Commission, where she went after the corrupt state GOP chairman, who had taken money from oil companies. In 2006, she ran for governor and won, after first beating the Republican incumbent for the nomination.

Throughout, she hewed to a few clear principles. She championed fiscal responsibility, cutting pork in the form of capital projects as well as larger symbols of waste, such as the infamous “bridge to nowhere” sponsored by Republican senator Ted Stevens. In a state that has been awash in oil money and political corruption, she also demanded real ethical standards and sent people who didn’t meet them to jail, never hesitating to challenge Republicans who were corrupt or ineffective. And she was pro-development, supporting drilling in ANWR; for that matter, she has dealt extensively with the tricky energy issues that have become central to this year’s election, and she understands them better than anyone else on either ticket.

In summary, Palin worked her way up the political ladder, rising on talent (she’s likable and a good speaker) and incremental achievement. She didn’t marry into power, and no one handed her anything. This is what conservatives say they want in female and minority candidates for high office. Further, she’s a reformer and a Washington outsider in a year when, as Republicans know, their own party is part of the problem. She represents real “change,” to adopt a word of the moment, and for Reaganites who have been waiting for the first post-Reagan conservative generation to rise to power, Palin represents “hope” as well.

Now about that woman thing: some commentators object that Palin was chosen primarily as a sop to female voters, especially disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters. Well, of course the McCain campaign wants to entice those women to vote for the Republican ticket. Putting together coalitions is how elections are won. Women happen to be 52 percent of the electorate. Ignoring them, let alone insulting them as Barack Obama is perceived to have done, is politically foolish. Some worried that McCain would pick a token woman, such as Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas—she of the long Washington tenure, liberal Republican views, and few accomplishments (though she does look the part). Instead, he surprised many by picking Palin.

Is it irresponsible to put a half-term governor in the vice presidential slot? It depends on her record. But surely for a Washington novice, the vice presidency is more appropriate than the presidency. A half-term governor has more claim to leadership and experience than does a one-third-term U.S. senator who has risen through a big-city political machine. Palin is a woman of action, moreover, who has used her political capital at every stage to fight corruption and bad policy. It’s hard to find anyone in politics who does that; pols “save” their capital instead, as Obama has done by voting “present” on numerous occasions, lest spending it cost them something somewhere down the road. Her personal profile—raising five children, hunting, fishing, and being a real NRA member—make an appealing contrast with the overly cerebral, political calculations of those who merely hold positions and whose lives have been led in the service of their résumés.

Add to all this that Palin was a brilliant choice compared with everyone else McCain was considering. Mitt Romney, who has much impressive experience, was another rich white guy, and he bombed in the primaries. Joe Lieberman is a liberal Democrat who is sound on Iraq but on little else, from a Republican perspective. Tom Ridge is terminally boring and didn’t really succeed at the Department of Homeland Security. True, Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty is another young Reaganite conservative who should have a big future, with impressive “Sam’s Club” working-class credibility, but he lacks dazzle. Making the ticket attractive enough to pique interest is a reasonable political choice, considering that McCain can’t govern if he doesn’t get elected first.

On the Democratic side, Palin’s counterpart Joe Biden has a hard-core liberal voting record in 36 years in the Senate, during which he has helped radicalize the judiciary. True, he knows more than Palin does about foreign policy; but much of what Biden knows is wrong—he argued, for instance, that Iraq should be partitioned. As for his sounder impulses to send more troops to Iraq and to resist the temptation to withdraw prematurely, it’s important to note that the man at the top of the Democratic ticket, Obama, disagreed with both.

No vice-presidential pick is ever perfect. Presidential candidates perforce make tradeoffs among competing considerations of appeal to key constituencies, particular expertise, ability to muster electoral votes, and compensation for perceived weaknesses at the top. But Sarah Palin brings real reform credentials, authentic Reaganite conservatism, small-government values, and the pragmatic ethos of a middle-class mother of five. And she is a natural talent. It couldn’t get much better than that—not even if she were a man.

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0831ls.html

-- August 31, 2008 9:26 PM


NEIL wrote:

Sara: Great article on Palin.

As you know, I am a staunch supporter of Romney and when he was not selected and Palin was announced, my first thoughts were that is the most stupid thing McCain could have done was to add an unknown female as his running mate.

After following Palin a little and reviewing her history, I am convinced that he made a great choice. This woman is every bit as impressive as Obama with her articulate and impressive delivery of words. She is tough, honest and has a candid understanding of the problems facing this country and the actions that are necessary to deal with them.

She says that she has everything going in Alaska to cope with the energy crisis such as wind power, solar power and oil which she is eager to drill for. This is a woman who sounds a lot like you Sara and has my 100% support from this point forward.

-- August 31, 2008 10:58 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Carole,

Thanks for responding to my thoughts. Yes, I am wondering if the Russians have something in their claims...on that passport that they found. It is pretty specific. I am wondering if the USA's hand got caught in the cookie jar (like CIA; NSA or possibly marines). Or more to the point, were the USA and Israel involved in more than training the Georgians?. I am hoping not. And, in any case, the Russians having a USA passport does not prove anything. We do know that there were about 1500 USA citizens that were evaluated.

On the issue of Russia's military provocations of keeping troops inside of Georgia (even after they agreed with the French to withdraw back to where they were before the war) is not justified. So yes, I question Russian motives of being imperialist.

I had questioned who started this war essentially--due to american citizens stating that the Georgians started this war; and it turned out that our own USA ambassador to Russia did confess that the Georgians did start this war. I am in no way saying that the Georgian's may or may not have been provoked by the past actions of the separatist...with Russia behind the scenes.

However, it does look to be a well thought out plan on the part of the Georgians and Israel did have military people in advising the Georgians. Generally, the USA is not far behind. Let's face it, the USA and Israel have oil interests in this region and I do not believe, we did not have our military in Georgia.

Did the USA and Israel advise Georgia to do this???? Now, that is the million dollar question. Were the separatist a threat to the Georgian oil pipelines?. Probably---is my answer....but then again, the Russians may have wanted the separatist to make it so--- so the Russians could claim a provocation to enter the Georgia Country militarily.

I want to believe that USA acted honorably; but after the CIA actions in Iraq of beatings of Iraqi prisoners and the other stories that came out in some of these prison stories, i.e., like the removal of clothing (simply to embarrass
humiliate) prisoners--- I have to keep an open mind. I would have not have thought americans capable of doing many of these acts to people simply because they had been arrested. We (americans) did not know if these people were terrorists. The truth Carole, is that all of us are capable of good and evil acts. Whatever the truth, God knows.

I know (and God forgive me for saying this) I would have taken the guy who did 9/11 and water boarded him too... to protect innocent people from his acts of terrorism. If the USA really knew a prisoner is a terrorist, I as an american would have water boarded the lot of them. Would I have beaten them --probably not--- unclothed them -not. But, I would have questioned them heavily to get intelligence from them to save innocents.

I did not know what water boarding was back then when the media first reported it--(my picture was a USA marine taking a terrorist and putting his face in a barrel of water and keeping him there.) I was wrong about the method used to waterboard prisoners.

However, I do think that our USA soldiers needed methods/techniques to get information quicky; and they also needed military courts to trial suspected terrorists and not our criminal court system in USA with maximum security jails.

A terrorist commits crimes yes, but on a military scale and with the equipment and training of a military person. Our civilian court systems is not adequate to combat these sorts of crimes and these terrorists would have probably gotten away with their crimes and walked...if it had not been for President George Bush. For President Bush and Vice President Cheney-- I am grateful.

However, John McCain did make a point, "Torture ruins ameria's reputation." Even now, I wonder-- did we or did we not, do such and such?. The CIA has been known to do alot of pretty bad things that is not above board in the name of government security.

Laura Parker

-- August 31, 2008 11:36 PM


Laura Parker wrote:

Oh, Carole,

I forgot to answer your question about Putin's charges --that the USA started the war in Georgia to help John McCain get elected. No, I do not believe this. If anything, I think President Bush is trying to keep foreign policy out of the election---until the election is decided.

So... do I believe the Russians. Until proven otherwise, I am sticking up for the american side on this conflict and I am hoping the CIA is not crossing the line in getting the Georgians to attack their own people---simply purely because of american interest on those oil pipelines. Which is what Putin is implying.

Laura Parker

-- August 31, 2008 11:53 PM


DinarAdmin wrote:

-- September 1, 2008 3:13 AM