For those of you in the U.S. wishing to use the services of the Arab American Chamber of Commerce (Annapolis, MD) in order to expedite Iraqi Embassy certification of documents necessary for ISX trading, note that their address has changed.
Current address, as of 10/28/09:
Arab American Chamber of Commerce
Certification Department
1615 Bayhead Rd.
Annapolis, MD 21409
Attn: Ahmad Miski
Tel: (410) 757-5544 or 1-888-999-5991
No specific updates regarding a revaluation but there are a couple of items you might be interested in. On the Iraq Investors Forum one of its members (Seaview)posted an article concerning the approval of all the amendments in the investment law by Parliment; the link, http://www.radiodijla.com/cgi-bin/ne...?id=2009-11-01
On the same site Kevlad posted an article concerning the comments of a Senior Economist calls for new exchange rate for the Dinar against the US Dollar; the link, http://translate.googleusercontent.c...KFlYUFBhpaGoAg
We are still in a holding patterns but with the CNBC coverage and these articles things may be moving from a no movement to a slow crawl. Now, I would like to the stale mate over election law settled.
This stupid spam filter is stupid; this is why I do not post anymore. Don't bother posting my last one becuase it will be last until that spam filter is removed and if it is not removed I will never post here again. Grow up man and take that stupid spam filter off.
In light of the latest info, that all newbies to Warka has to do the passport thingie, you were right, that is the new procedure.
That means your detention is lifted, (but your still on probation)
As for my own wrongful assumption in the matter. I've got Teflon coating, and will hereby use one of my many "Get Out Of Jail" cards.
Rob N.
Ol pal hang in there, and face it, you have to write it with your own hand. (and worst of all....you have to create it with your own mind)
I have had a lot of benefit from the articles you posted, but I remeber when I first came onto this blog, that one of my first mentions, was that I am fully able and capable to read articles myself on my own time, all that is needed is a link.
I guess the administrator finally put spamfilters there. My guess is that the intention is to revitalise this blog to be what it was intended to be in the firt place.
Live people talking with live people on the subject of Dinars.
All,
Iraq are doing a reach across the borders, and are doing the first steps in getting in on GCC.
If they will get in there or not is uncertain, and if they are getting in, it will not be a month and a half from now.
It will however put the Dinar, and the possiblity of an RV in another light.
Eventually, the GCC will have a common currency, but even inbetween themselves they are far apart in any closer agreement on that point. So far each gulf state are more interested in the welfare of their own currency over any possible alignement of currency.
Heck Kuwait revalued not too long ago a couple of percent, and in fact rumors are that they need to do it again.
The parity of currencies are not leveled out in any shape or form inbetween those states.
Either way, that is another debate, but as far as Iraq is concerned, it will press Iraq to have a strong look at it's own currency before it even will start to look attractive to the rest of the world.
The gulf states have pretty good weight to their currency, and you have to fork up quite a hefty bunch of Dollars to get the vaues for their curency.
Iraq is the opposite. You fork up a buck and get thousand and more Iraqi Dinars in your hand.
If Iraq is serious and are actually heading towards a future membership of the GCC states, this will help our investment in the Dinars, as the Iraqi currency, compared with the GCC members currancy , is so far off the chart that it is obvious that it needs an overhaul
This is one more pressure on the CBI to RV.
BP and a Chineese company are right now completing the Iraqis first real contract for Iraqs biggest "megafield".
THAT is Iraqis key to sucess. December will reportedly see more contracts on other fields.
This negotiation round seem to be behind closed doors , much better than the TV spectacle the Iraqis tried to pull off in the first round.
My fair guess is that the oil companies was laughing their lips off when the Iraqis pulled that one off.
Enemy activity has risen slightly, that is in my opinion an effect of the up and coming Afghan deployments. The enemy figures, that if they can stirr the shitstick in Iraq a little bit more, the troops that are suppose to be transfered from Iraq to Afhanistan, will have to stay in Iraq.
I think they're grasping for straws, that will not happen.
We're already out of major cities, are closing base after base, and troops are more in garrison now than they have ever been in the past while being in Iraq.
(I know,the lines in the messhall is getting ridicilously long)
They will be put to good use in Afghanistan, and the latest tactics from the enemy will not do anything strategically at all.
Some innocent people will get killed or hurt, (as usually) thats all it will accomplish.
Were on track, we just have to deal with the all so common Iraqi, -"it will not happen right now" syndrome.
Man...those people in that country are so annoying.
Loud, screaming, waiving hands and in the face, but never DO .....culture I guess.
I am sure you guys and gals have already ready; but, I thought I would post it anyway that the Iraqi Election Law has passed. Elections will not occur on the 16th but before the 31st as the Iraqi Constitution requires. This is good news. There are several news outlets confirming the news.
I've just off the phone with Fedex UK, and they informed me that shipments to Iraq had been stopped for a few days, but have since been resumed. Maybe it may be different still in the US. If it's back on, I guess you can send your dinar.
I Fedexed my Embassy Certification documents to Warka last Saturday from Bainbridge Island and they said no problem regarding delivery at that time. I just want to buy stocks! I mean, what a pain. O'well, someone on here, maybe you, said "patience" which was darn good advice.
Maybe this week I'll get the go ahead from Warka.
Good news on the election law, no doubt, now on to the HCL i hope.
I Fedexed my Embassy Certification documents to Warka last Saturday from Bainbridge Island and at that time they said no problem with regard to delivery.
I just want to buy stocks!...what a pain. Anyway like you said, Rod, "patience."
Thanks for the update. I have confirmed that Fed Ex is delivering to Baghdad. I am having issues with Al-Warka accepting my documents for my account. I have to either use a scanner or purchase one. A little delay but no big deal.
I thought you were trying to send some physical dinars? Are you scanning the notes now?? Does that work? I'm just kidding. I need to get my physical notes across to Al Warka somehow. What have/are you done/doing about yours?
No, I need to scan my identification and contact information into a file and send it to Al-Warka. Concerning my physical notes right now there are three possibilities. I may send them via FedEx to Al-Warka, keep the notes I have and begin funding my account at Al-Warka, or sell the notes via ebay and wire the funds to Iraq. Not sure which route I will take yet.
Rob N,
Thanks for busting my bubble. It had me dreaming for a minute. Couldn't you have just let me sleep a little while longer? Dreaming is so much fun!
Reported by clerk working on base:...Money exchanger on military base was told to stop exchanging dinar because of rate change within a week.........GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!Dinar!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SORRY ROBN UNLESS YOU GOT PROOF YOU ARE NOT THE AUTHORITY ON IF IT GOES DOWN OR NOT AND IF YOU HAVE PROOF THEN YOU NEED TO BRING IT TO THE TABLE ..COME TO WWW.DINARVETS.COM AND SPEAK YOUR MIND I AM SURE 200 PLUS PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR YOU SPEAK TIME TO GET OFF THE SIDE LINES BUDDY....
I will pass on visiting the site you suggested. I find it unappealing to discuss rumors with no proof. As sargent Friday used to say on Drag Net; "just the facts ma'am".
Back in the sandbox again. There are some people here that are into the Iraqi Dinar, most of them have a couple of mils at home, and keep only a casual observance on the development.
I am in daily contact with both civilian workers, and military on a military base here in Iraq, and accordig to some earier blogs, this place is suppose to be a buzz of rumors regarding a Dinar RV.
Really??? well I am lucky to read those blogs, to keep up with what I am missing in this place. It's a fort, and the only way to get out of here is by helicopter, or armed escort.
We are living in a small isolated bubble here on base and news travel fast.
This is a rehearsal of an earlier rumor, where the military had an idea to have us(Both contractors, and military personell) buy with Dinars on the PX. ( The military general store)
The idea was pretty dumb in the first pace as this is an American business,and the Iraqi businesses taking place here, said that they will continue to accept the Dollar.
So the program didnt get any traction,and was canned.
The idea was to have us all exchange the greenbacks to Dinars, and as the silly program was cancelled, this have now migrated into a " They have stopped giving out Dinars on the bases because of an imminent RV"
Bull, you can go and get Dinars at any bank here,but on base there are little or no use for them.
Plus the origin of this rumor is now a couple of months old, and is only a regurgitation of food already eaten and dumped.
On the Forex....well..this is getting funnier and funnier.
Forex is short for Foreign Exchange.
You can HAVE an exchange of currencies between the Dollar and another currency, controlled currency or not, and that is in itself a foreign exchange, but that is not to be confused with the commonly known FX or the Forex market where free floating currencies are traded daily.
You can of course find the Iraqi Dinar on any foreign exchange chart, but that is only a chart, and it shows a straght line, no ups and down, beacuse it is not a traded currency.
It is a controlled currency.
Foreign Exchange market is not an institution, it is only description of international trade with currencies. There are no clearing house, there are no ground floor, and a bell at the end of the day.
Forex market is the playground between big banks, investors, institutions and speculators.It is not under any coutrys law, and the trade is completely unregulated.
You can not find the Forex at ny address on this earth, but is stateless, and borderless.
In order to get in on Forex and see what is happening, you basically have to pug in a feed from that trade that describes the ups and down, if you want to trade, you can go to a broker, but again what you get plugged into is an international houseless, non reguated internatonal trade of currencies, that is all.
You can trade the Iraqi Dinar as much as you want,but you will not make any profit, or have any lossrisk, as the graph over the Dinar is a straight line, controlled by CBI.
It's not that the Dinar has to be "admitted" to anything, any secret society or have some kind of entrance ticket with a long list of criteria in order to get on the Forex market.
If people are trading with it, start buying or selling it, then it IS automatically traded on the Forex, ( or FX)
The exact thing that decides that is the CBI.
At such a time when CBI decides that the currency will be free floatinig THEN it will be traded, and then it will be on the Forex.
So a quick look at Forex Dinar, shows a straight line, and a quick look at CBI exchange rate shows that the Dinar to Dollar ratio is exactly the same as it have been for a long long time.
So here is this Yahoo claiming with shout...-"Hey check it out,The Dinar is now on Forex"
Soo????
When you go to a Dinar Dealer, and buy some, you are in fact on the Foreign Exchange market.
All it is , is eactly what it says, it is an exchange with foreign currency.
....and sorry, the Dinar is stuck.
You dont trade a flat line.
Changes will come and is sure to come sooner or later, ( hopefully sooner) but not on the grounds these last bloggers are saying.
Thanks, yes it was very nice to be home, and see straight lines, clean streets, and an orderly society.
It really means so much to be in a society where stuff WORKS.
US for sure have it's faults, but the US and most of the Western civilization have an efficiency over it that you really are missing if you'r not there.
(who would think of bringing a roll of toilet paper with you if you are going to Baghdad Intl airport, you just expect any Intl airport to have toilet paper, if you are a Westerner,....we have a reality of efficiency, promptmness and things getting done in a timely manner.....not here)
Today I have only a short time to dabble on the pjuter, gotta go and chain down some Humvees for transport.
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and I know this is a Dinar board but I am interested in varying traditions with the holiday; for example, I met a gentleman who has pork -n- bean salad at Thanksgiving. I have not heard of pork -n- bean salad. If you have something to share please do and thanks for not bashing me for opening this up to discussion outside the Dinar. If you do not wish to participate just skip it.
Hi, the Iraqi Government is using You Tube to make official announcements, and has started using this method as the official source of news about Iraq. Dinarian, keep informed by looking up You Tube. thx....revaluation will be announced on You Tube, is my guess. thx
I do not believe a significant revaluation will be announced at all. Any public acknowledgements to a change in the Dinar will be done so only through the CBI website. Those invested in the ISX or have accounts at Al-Warka will receive information on a change in the exchange rate and a change would affect their bank accounts and trading accounts. For the Iraqi populous it will business as usual.
Take a nice big fillet of king salmon (whole half side) and remove the pin bones. Lay the fillet skin-side down on a cutting board.
Using a sharp knife, slice through the fillet crossways from side to side (perpendicular to its length) about every 3 inches or so - being careful not to cut through the skin.
Now take sections of king crab leg and place inside the cross cuts. If necessary, trim any leg portion protruding from the sides of the fillet to regain the fillets smooth edge. Alternatively you can use dungeness crab meat and "stuff" the cross cuts.
Season as you wish. I use smoked chipotle salt, pepper, and the usual light sprinkling of fresh chopped herbs.
Bake until nearly done (still slightly wet pink in the middle), then remove from oven (or barbecue) and add some fresh shaved parmesan on top. Broil in oven for a'couple minutes and serve.
Enjoy with a light cold wine of exceptional quality and dream that dinar was not a big mistake.
Stop it. You are making me hungry. If I am ever in Seattle may I impose and have dinner with you the night you are having this for dinner. I will bring the wine.
Sadly, the dinar remains a dream and I afraid it will be such for an unspecified period of time. Iraq continues to be plagued by sectarian strife; which bears out in the recent veto of the Election Law. Until these factions move from a ethnic loyality to a nationalist loyality the Dinar will continue to be undervalued.
Though the U.S. has spent trillions of dollars on this war and increased our national deficit I am not sure the Iraqi's want to play on the global stage. I think their divided alliegence to Iran and the U.S. has caused a stagnation in their movement toward a functioning international nation state.
March is being mentioned as the date for elections; this delay will have a domino effect on Hydro Carobon Legislation, Investment Law, and the lifting of UN Sanctions. These delays also mean a delay in advancing both monetary and fiscal policy. I am slowly realizing regarding the Dinar 2010 will be like 2005 to 2009.
So the Iraqi Dinar isnt going to be worth very much. Even if it does happen to go up to 3.25? Just curious i have 250,000 dinar and wouldnt mind having some extra cash.
You would be most welcome at our home on Bainbridge Island for dinner. Consider yourself invited. Some goes for Roger. It would be fun and I'd look forward to it.
Thank you very much for the invitation; it is much appreciated. I have mulled an Al-Warka account for over 2 years (Roger knows this well). Frankly, I like the idea of having my cash in an Iraqi Bank; the sticking point for me is that Al-Warka is a private bank that could confiscate foregin deposits at its discretion with no legal recourse. I realize this is a risky investment no matter which mode of investment we choose.
I have decided to send my information to Al-Warka and at least get the USD/Dinar account opened. I will continue to do my due dilligence in the meantime. Count me in for dinner Earl. I would like to meet Roger too so maybe the three of us can have a little dinner and some good wine.
The invite stands and I hope you do come to visit.
Roger must be off-grid, but I think he would agree that, while with some risk, as you have pointed out, at least with your money in Al-Warka you are earning comparatively good interest - even if you do not go the ISX or bank CD route. I think the basic IQD savings account earns about 7% annually. Annual CD is at 10% currently.
Another reasons that I went with Al-Warka is that they also broker for the ISX which, as you know, is a separate opportunity for voluntary risk with your USD if you are so inclined.
With on-line Al-Warka you can move your IQD holdings/stock funds around fairly easily from your laptop. And, theoretically, you can more quickly move funds out of Iraq (bank to bank). My experience, however, is limited to moving funds into Al-Warka, not out. I can tell you that it takes a day or so to make such a transfer once set up.
I'm sounding smarter than I am. I'd listen to Roger when he chimes in. I'm a lot more confident with dinner than dinar.
Thanks for the link to that article. That's a great find! Very informative. Do you know if they have followed through this year with the branch openings in the countries listed in the article?
Rob N,
I don't quite understand your concerns about the bank being privately owned. Is it not just privately majority owned since some of its stock is available on the ISX? Could you not argue that that is similar to how most western banks operate? That is, they are not government owned unless they're in trouble, but governed by legal legislation.
A great find, I was going through all the old info I have on this PC and fell over that one
The guy who owns Warka Bank is Al-Bunnia he and his fameily are very wealthy and have been for many years, a famiely of old money, he has many companies, here is his site
Sorry, sometimes there can be long periods where I will be disconnectd with the world, we live in our own reality bubble here and it's a treat to connect back.
I promise to be back at a later time, with a more involved message ( massage...whatever)
In the meanwhie I am happy to report that the ISX portfolio is doing good, have got some free capital shares from companies I have invested into.
More on the Dinar, ISX, Life, and the Universe Later.
Anyone go to the dinarvets web site. Holy crap. It is a new "rumor" everyday. Its sad to me that so many people believe that kind of stuff, they are auctally trying to decipher crap that people are saying. The three or four people "medic" know this and feed off of it. Last week it was. "RV conifirmed at 2.47" a call from a call from a call from a bank guy. Headache!!!
Sorry just venting.
Well, it shows that the push for Dinar sales are up and running in high gear.
The phenomenon is a side effect,dealers push sales, that in itself only will enhance dealers profit.
Profit in itself is not a sin, but the RV rumors, are infecting the Dinar investment picture, because the push for selling more Iraqi currency, will do nothing for fellows that are already invested and set.
Rumors in itself have a flair to them, and in itself I don't mind them, ...we have had many many as time goes by, and they are more a source of amusement , as the basis for the rumor are most often posed as something hillarious.
-"We will not have any Social Seciurity payments next month, because Obama have to pay for transport of the troops over to Afghanistan".
-"The Chinese have a secret army waiting to invade the US, it's sitting in secrecy just outside our border in the Mexican desert"
-"The CO2 the US is releasing, will chooke everyone in the year 2012"
The rumors in the Dinar game is pretty much on that level.
What I am against , in the rumor mill, is that some may actually give credit to information like this, and perhaps risk, savings, that a person can ill afford.
The main actors on the financial market is business and banks, and also as a heavy actor is the different countries Central Banks.
Central banks have the ability to hold a currency fixed, like in most Arab states, including Iraq.
If a Central bank will let their currency into the Forex, that is, just letting lose it's currency, and let the market determine the exchange price, the market can be more dominant in determining the exchange price.
The only tool the Central Banks have then, is basically to adjust the countrys base interest rate.
New Zeeland had for some years back an instance, where their Central Bank tried to manipuate the exchange rate, and failed.
Mostly the Central Banks can control their exchange rate once on the Forex, but not necessarily.
Question is, will Iraq ever let their currency lose on the Forex????that is questionable, but for Iraq not necessarily a bad thing.
Countries that have a high interest rate, is most commonly bought into on the Forex, that is considered being strong currencies, because, many big hedge funds goes where the interest is high.
Basically a currency is bought from a country in, where the interesst rate is very low, and that money is then deposited in a country where the interest is high.
Pretty simple.
Iraq with a very high interest rate, would be bought into quite a bit, and....here comes the nice part, in order to buy into a high yelding countrys currency, you...of course....need to buy that countrys currency.
In general, arabian oil producing countries are tied to the Dollar in a controlled currency, in one form or the other, Kuwait, ( now have a basket currency system, but the Dollar is in there) , Saui Arabia, Emirtes, Dubai, and so on.
Change are coming, how where and when????I don't know, but the Arbian countries, are too dependent on Dollar, and with their currency fixed to the Dollar, will follow the long and solid slide down with the decreasig dollar value.
It's the Arab countries curse that their biggest export, oil is bought and sold in Dollars.
They just can't continue to slide, unless they will be willing to live with very high inflation.
Their own money, tied with the Dollar, will continue to lose buying power in parity with the Dollar as it is going down.
So this is directly applicable to the Iraqi scene, as they are pegged directly to the Dollar.
All in all, it is ony the Central Bank of Iraq, that can say yeah or nay.
The Central Bank is a political independent entity, (as all Central Banks are suppose to be) but in reality, regional politics are often expressed in a Central Banks behaviour.
While the free flowing money in the world, are driven in big part by specultive motivations, by some reason or the other, Central Banks in general, is looking at speculation as a negative, and you often see expressions like :
-"In order to avoid speculation we have decided to do following measures...."
Sometimes in the future (hopefully sooner than later) there will be change in Iraqis, monetary policy, but you can rest assured that , as this is in the hands of CBI, that it will be a very secret affair, and it will be known only after the fact.
Medics on a military base is so removed from this scene that it is almost hillarious funny. Great source of information.
Any possibility that a rumor can have credit to it, would be if anyone at CBI would say something that he/she shoudn't say.
Exact time/date, and exchange rate.....good luck.
Any information in advance of a Central Banks move is considered seculative, ( and therefore negative) , so in case piece of real information would actually slip through and be known, the Cantral Bank would immediately withdraw, and make a new plan.
Whatever will happen, in Iraq, and the Dinar, the entity to watch is the CBI, no one else.
The only thing we can get is hints, from talking politicians, but they have als been proven wrong again and again.
The only pressure CBI have is from it's own countrys Government, and their signed international agreements.
My perception is that regional culture, going back to Mesopotamia, has tolerated/experienced corruption among its ranks from high to low...and that corruption has permeated especially governmental affairs.
Functional separation between the CBI and Iraqi politics seems, well, vulnerable. I say this considering that the CBI, left to the pressures of culture, may fail independence and, in fact, undermine itself (its sovereignty) in doing so.
In other words, and not in conflict with yours, practically no governmental ethics behavior would surprise me coming out of Iraq. And certainly I do not mean that as an insult to Iraq because it is, of course, more complicated than that.
I think I hope that the "postwar" CBI is as much international as it is national for the time being, albeit there are obviously evils in that scenario too.
That said, it is why the ISX is more directly appealing to me with regard to investment than dinar RV speculation.
Not many dinar posts of late so lets talk about another pressing matter. Have we passed the point of no return? I believe the United States as a nation is following a course that will lead to a collapse of the economy and will destroy the will of the people to continue as a free country.
I have been in this world for 74 years and I have seen enormous changes. I remember when most everyone was poor by todays standards but were proud and would sooner die than accept welfare or have their honor tarnished. Medical care was primitive but a Doctor would come to your house whether you had money or not and there was a Mercy Hospital in every larger town for poor people. Most people had dentures or decayed teeth (before flouride) and necesssities were about all that anyone had who was doing well. People then were poor but proud and were extremely patriotic and willing to lay down their live for things that they believed in. Life expectancy in the forties was 47 years for a male.
Khrushchev (Russia) stated in 19061 that he would destroy the USA in forty years without firing a shot.I thought at the time that was the most insame comment I had ever heard as the American people were to strong willed to let anything bad happen to our Country from within.
I have seen a slow deterioration of our morals and our will and stamina as a people. We have now reached the point where I am afraid of our Government. I do not believe that the Government has the best interest of the American people at heart. I believe that they have a hidden agenda to redistribute the wealth and to make the Govt so powerful that it can become a dictatorship. slowly but surely the plan is being staged such as the take-over of banks and industries, the czars being placed in strategic positions, the plan to create an internal army, the brow beating of people who disagree with administration, the bribes and coerison of Senators and Representatives to pass legislation and the insane run-away spending. The time to spring the take-over plan is when the economy collapses and everyone has their hand out and are willing to compromis what few principles that they have left.
You are probably thinking at this point that we will just vote the culprits out of office. Well, I believe that they are working on that too. Democrats have the undying support of the ultraliberal left, the black community and everyone else who is looking for a hand-out. kAs evidenced by the last election, there are organizations who are intimidating voters who would vote agains them and bringing everyone to the polling place that they can find to vote for them. There is a plan to legalize the illegal aliens and get their vote so when that happens the democrats will need only the vote of a few hard-working uninformed Americans. I remember when there was a poll-tax and an interview required in order to register to vote. Everyone today thinks that is ridiculous but while I try to stay informed, my vote will be cancelled out by some former illegal who can't speak English and his vot is for sale.
I will continue this line of thought soon. I know we have a few on this Blog who only want to talk about the Dinar but I am not seeing much talk so hopefully I am not offending anyone with this non-dinar post.
Hi Bobby Floyd
Thank you for the few words that have hit home for me anyway,I to am woried about our uncontrolable goverment.
JESUS CHRIST is realy our only true hope.
GOD BLESS ALL.
Thank you for providing a site that is level headed and honest. I have been to all of the "other sites" and find them both amusing and disgusting. Sadly, many in my wife's office are entrenched in these pump sites and it really angers me to see them get so excited because one of the "informants" has just announced a "done deal" only to find out that the date passes with no change at all.
I have sent a link to this site for them to use for future reference.
BTW, I think I will have baked King Salmon with some nice Jumbo Gulf Shrimp for dinner tonight! (I am too far from Seattle!)
I have been taking a year's sabbatical from the Dinar and posting in general. The year is just about up and I have also thought long and hard on what is happening, both with the Dinar and also with the situation in the US and where the US is heading. Concerning the US which you posted upon, I see the concerns you speak of and have taken it to the Lord in prayer and sought His wisdom and understanding of the situation.. not a political level solution, but higher.. as to what GOD is doing through this situation and what His will is to be. For it is THAT will which will prevail and which we and future generations will live in, not the will of politicians, as Copenhagan has recently proven, when nothing concrete was able to be accomplished for God would not will it to be. It is as the Scripture says, that those who look only on the political level for solutions and not any higher are unable to see what will happen and the future looks dim to them because they are unable to see. It is like this situation in the Scripture was toward Pharoah, so it is toward the politicians of this day:
Isa 19:11 Surely the princes of Zoan are fools, the counsel of the wise counsellors of Pharaoh is become brutish: how is it that you say to Pharaoh, I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings?
Isa 19:12 Where are they? where are your wise men? and let them tell you now, and let them know what the LORD of hosts has purposed upon Egypt.
Isa 19:13 The princes of Zoan are become fools, the princes of Noph are deceived; they have also seduced Egypt, even they that are the stay of the tribes thereof.
Isa 19:14 The LORD hash mingled a perverse spirit in the midst of it: and they have caused Egypt to err in every one of its works, as a drunken man staggers in his vomit.
So it is now.. the "wise men" politicians of today are not able to see where the country will go or what God has purposed for the US. There is a "perverse spirit" mixed within the politics of this day which causes error in "every one of its works" so that it is shaking the US and good people are truly concerned and worried. The politicians truly have their politics, but they do not see what WILL be by the decree of God. It is THAT will, that immutable will, which I have been seeking to know and not just the political intents of the parties involved.
You, Bobby, have been seeing the socialists, the Communists, the radical leftists, and their agenda which is manifesting and you worry, quote, "the United States as a nation is following a course that will lead to a collapse of the economy and will destroy the will of the people to continue as a free country".. this is true. IF the only level were the mind and will of the people of the United States and her politicians, I, too might be of a truly disturbed countenance, for her enemies are rising up and she seems almost ready to slip. But I look HIGHER and see an eternal purpose beyond this one. I have been seeking to know how God views the situation, as He always has it well in hand, even when things seem most dire.. and His purposes are eternal.
You said, "Khrushchev (Russia) stated in 19061 that he would destroy the USA in forty years without firing a shot..." and that you thought, "the American people were to strong willed to let anything bad happen to our Country from within." The problem is, we cannot look only at the level of people, but must see higher to understand why we are in such dire times. You correctly diagnosed the problem, "I have seen a slow deterioration of our morals and our will and stamina as a people." But you must understand the solution is a correction of that cause alone. It will not come from voting out the current set of politicians and putting in some others, though that would, of course, be a good thing if good men and women can be found to take their places. Look carefully about you.. do you see those who would be elected who would work to reverse that "deterioration of morals and will and stamina?" Would an election cause that to be corrected? That is the crux of the matter before God. America has become weak because it has become corrupt. For instances.. Would the new set of people voted in truly turn around the country and make it a godly nation again? Would they outlaw the killing of the unborn? Would infanticide be prohibited? Would Obama's executive order which began partial birth abortions be overturned? Would stem cell research be outlawed? Would the exalting of a manmade view of what marriage should be (same sex marriage) be seen to be against the Holy and Sacred institution God ordained and not be allowed by those voted in? Would laws be made in line with the vows Congress takes before God to uphold the Constitution of America and not according to their own whims and desires and special interest groups? etc, etc, etc.. Or would those voted in "compromise" as the Republican party has done and give America more of the same? Would the new set of politicians be only more of the leftist politics "lite"?
The key is the will of the American people.. will the American people stand up for the truth without compromising? Are the MORALS of the American people truly right.. or are they going to give way and allow more and more corruption and murder.. from young to old (death panels)? Will they stand for the Constitution that has made the nation great, or will they vote for those who betray it daily in their voting records as those who just voted in this unconstitutional Obamacare have just done? The innate moving of moral values into this corrupt and ungodly (compromised) system is systemic and its roots are deep. Mere political cosmetic changes will not heal the nation of such evil, I believe. I do not believe that America has the backbone right now to make the hard decisions. She is too "compassionate" and compromising with the leftist wrong thinking. Therefore, God has a stronger medicine for America yet to drink. A medicine which, like the strong medicines of old, tastes very bitter, but which will do very much to cleanse and heal her. God has shown America what she is and is not by allowing Obama to be in power. She is understanding more about what America has been and is.. learning where her freedom lies. There is more yet to happen as God is not finished with America.. she is still filled with filthy rags and will not tolerate the truth in the public square as she must to remain blessed and prosperous. It is GOD who gave America her wealth and position.. it is God who can take it away if she will not heed Him. It is the view I have been given to look to what God is trying to accomplish and must do to return America to her roots and greatness. You have seen in your lifetime what GOOD and godly people were in America. You see her now. You know it is no longer the same. To retain blessing and freedom, she must return to her old roots.. away from the "progressive" (progressively degenerate) agenda of the left. The medicine may be very hard to take.. but God will bring her to it, if she is to remain at all before God as a nation. God chastises His own, not the other guy's kids down the street. America is in for a very, very deep lesson which will be written in her history books for all time.
Remember, after the time of ancient Rome with its corruptions.. there came the Pilgrims with their desire for purity. If we live now in Rome.. we can still believe that God is able within the course of human events and history to turn the hearts of people to Himself and bring about a kind of heart-reformation which can change the inward feelings and thoughts of men from their own aims to those more honorable before God Himself. Only then will you see people as you witnessed in your youth.. good, and GODLY.. a nation worthy of God's blessings and worthy of keeping her freedom. To say more may give it all away.. so I will not speak unless He says to. Sometimes God wishes to work quietly and slowly.. revealing things one step at a time. When I spoke on this forum before and warned what Obama would mean to the US.. it was ridiculed. I was in the minority as he came to power about a year ago amidst euphoria and shouts of "messiah" who would bring peace to the world. That has now changed and America has caught up. I believe I stand now with an understanding of the future which no politician now holds, but which will become manifest on earth for all to know. I may be ahead of my time, but I can wait for America to catch up and understand the times she is living in and what her calling truly is. May God protect her through this very sad, dark and troubled time (for there is more to come).. until the dawn that I assure you He intends.
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you the expected end.
I am glad that all God's stories always have "expected" endings.. good ones, and not bad. Though, like all good stories, the middle can look rather dark and troubled at times.. until the change toward true goodness and godliness is effected... only then will there be a truly good ending.
Good that your back. I was hoping that you just took some time off and nothing else. I have missed you and sure I speak for many. Yes like a lot of us we are watching this great nation deterate from what it used to be. I am approaching my mid 50’s and am glad that I grew up in a time that faith,family, morals and a strong government were what our great country was about. I did not realize it at the time but like anything else you do not miss it until it’s gone. I struggle now with raising my family in this difficult time and try to keep these principals alive but our children will never fully understand the way it used to be. We must all stay strong and fight for what’s right so this light will not be smothered out in this dark era that is upon us……always darkest before dawn they say....again glad that your back.
Thanks, Franko.. and Earl, for your well wishes and response. It is darkest before the dawn.. yet even now I am pleased to see so many GOOD changes in perspective among the American people since I last posted. Here is one concerning Iraq I thought worthy of sharing and encouraging the board with - for where there is victory, success and liberty for the people, God's blessings and prosperity cannot be far behind:
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Despite Democrat’s Best Efforts… 57% of Americans See Iraq As a Success
Friday, December 18, 2009, 10:52 PM
Jim Hoft
BUSH WAS RIGHT
Barack Obama was wrong.
Nancy Pelosi was wrong.
Harry Reid was wrong.
After years of undermining the troops in Iraq the US succeeded anyway.
Today 57% of Americans see Iraq as a success.
MSNBC reported:
Here’s a final set of numbers from our new NBC/WSJ poll that we find fascinating: 57% say the Iraq war has been successful, versus 40% who say it has been unsuccessful.
It’s a reversal from July 2008, when 43% said Iraq was successful, and 53% said it was unsuccessful.
Comments:
1) December 18th, 2009 | 11:01 pm
The American people are moving away from the Lame Stream Media, Leftist propaganda and Team Obama propaganda and finding actual truth through alternative news sources. Of course it was the Lame Stream Media’s relentless attacks that sabatoged GW Bush and paved the way for The Messiah.
2) December 18th, 2009 | 11:04 pm
It is a success because of the sacrifices of our brave troops.
WELCOME HOME!
3) December 18th, 2009 | 11:18 pm
Barack Obama was just not wrong on Iraq.
He was the General Custer of wrong. If he got his way, Iraq would be smoldering in a civil war all just because it benefited Democrats. The Middle East is on it’s own.
Obama has shown our allies around the world that America is closed for renovation and that the 3 AM call will just go to voicemail.
4) December 19th, 2009 | 9:23 am
This cements Bushs legacy as one of the greatest presidents in US history. Amazing how the country could go from a man like that to (someone) like Ogabe in a single election.
And this is a worthy postnote concerning the victory in Iraq:
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Saddam's Nukes
Posted 07/08/2008 08:52 PM ET
WMD: Hear about the 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium found in Iraq? No? Why should you? It doesn't fit the media's neat story line that Saddam Hussein's Iraq posed no nuclear threat when we invaded in 2003.
It's a little known fact that, after invading Iraq in 2003, the U.S. found massive amounts of uranium yellowcake, the stuff that can be refined into nuclear weapons or nuclear fuel, at a facility in Tuwaitha outside of Baghdad.
In recent weeks, the U.S. secretly has helped the Iraqi government ship it all to Canada, where it was bought by a Canadian company for further processing into nuclear fuel — thus keeping it from potential use by terrorists or unsavory regimes in the region.
This has been virtually ignored by the mainstream media. Yet, as the AP reported, this marks a "significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy."
Seems to us this should be big news.
After all, much of the early opposition to the war in Iraq involved claims that President Bush "lied" about weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam posed little if any nuclear threat to the U.S.
This more or less proves Saddam in 2003 had a program on hold for building WMD and that he planned to boot it up again soon.
This is clear, since Saddam acquired most of his uranium before 1991, but still had it in 2003, when invading U.S. troops found the stuff.
(The International Atomic Energy Agency seems to have known about the yellowcake in the 1990s, but did nothing to force Saddam to get rid of it. It's duplicating its error today with Iran and North Korea).
That means Saddam held onto it for more than a decade. Why? He hoped to wait out U.N. sanctions on Iraq and start his WMD program anew.
This would seem to vindicate Bush's decision to invade.
The American Thinker Web site reported four years ago on the scary math behind Saddam's uranium hoard: 500 tons of yellowcake, once refined, could make 142 nuclear weapons.
But yellowcake wasn't all they found at Tuwaitha. According to the AP, the military also discovered "four devices for controlled radiation exposure ... that could potentially be used in a weapon."
By the way, this should put to rest the canard peddled by the American left and by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson that "Bush lied" about Iraq seeking yellowcake from the African country of Niger.
142 NUKES.. !!!
How soon could they be deployed?
WHERE WERE THEY GOING TO BE USED? Against WHOM?
Again, it bears repeating this quote.
QUOTE:
As The New York Times confirmed in their issue November 3, 2006, Saddam had complete plans for a nuclear weapon and was in the process of procuring parts when the US removed him. Quote: "nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away." [62]
Additionally, tapes with Saddam speaking on them also surfaced and certain sinister remarks Saddam made on the tapes were translated which showed that he threatened to use WMD on Washington, DC. In the article , "Saddam Translator: ABC Reinterpreted Tapes" dated Feb. 17th 2006, the FBI translator who supplied the 12 hours of Saddam Hussein audiotapes excerpted by ABC's "Nightline" says the network discarded his translations and went with a less threatening version of the Iraqi dictator's comments. In the "Nightline" version of the 1996 recording, Saddam predicts that Washington, D.C., would be hit by terrorists. But he adds that Iraq would have nothing to do with the attack. Tierney says, however, that what Saddam actually said was much more sinister. "He was discussing his intent to use chemical weapons against the United States and use proxies so it could not be traced back to Iraq," he told Hannity. In a passage not used by "Nightline," Tierney says Saddam declares: "Terrorism is coming. ... In the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction. What if we consider this technique, with smuggling?" [63]
I put it to you.. if Saddam openly said he would immediately use the chemical weapons he possessed at the time against the US.. if in a year he had fully developed nuclear weapons, would he have hesitated to use them against Washington, DC or other locations in the US?
These are thoughts for counting our blessings during this season of thankfulness for all we have been blessed with, and our hearts are filled with thanksgiving and appreciation to those who sacrificed so much (some gave all) to keep us all safe from such madmen.
Good to see you posting. I hope you have a very merry Christmas.
Earl,
Thanks for your comments.
All,
I have decided to divest myself of my dinar holdings and move on. I will check in from time-to-time to see how things are progressing. I hope each of you have a great Christmas season.
I am assuming that this question is addressed to me. I have come to believe that a revaluation of the New Iraqi Dinar is highly unlikely. I now believe it to be nothing but war script. In 2010 I think you will see a nationalist movement arise inside the country; parliamentary elections will serve as its catalyst. Once nationalism engulfs Iraq the oil contracts signed by the ministry will be scrutinized and I anticipate parliament will want changes made to these contracts or to future contracts. If this occurs the oil majors and the GoI are back at square one. Do not expect passage of Hydro Carbon legislation in 2010.
In a nationalist environment I think the Bremer Dinar and the Bremer Constitution are also subject to scrutinization by parliament. I believe the currency and Constitution will also be changed. As I said, the current Dinar in use by the Iraqis is war script. The change in currency could be the the introduction of smaller denominations or Iraq may wait and join the GCC. My point, the GoI and the people of Iraq will wipe out as much American influence as possible from their culture.
One other point about the Dinar; Iraq currently has 32 trillion notes in circulation. An exhorbitant amount that far exceeds their GDP. Next, the currency itself is not backed by anything. Iraq is learning from their western counterparts to print and monetize debt. In my view, if the New Iraqi Dinar were a legitimate currency it would be backed by either gold or oil (petro-dinar). Their failure to pass the HCL is a signal that this New Iraqi Dinar is a transitory currency; nothing more than war script. When I first invested in the Dinar my stance was very bullish and four years later it is now very bearish boarding on pessimism. The latest CNBC hype about the Dinar is to create excitement and anticipation in the currency. Their motiviation for doing so is not known to me. I do not mean to be negative but I think that holding the currency at this point is probably not the best position to be in.
I too feel as though this is one of those "too good to be true" investments. I believe that Iraq will do something different with their money and avoid all of the billions of NEW DINARS and save themselves a lot of money as well. When you look at Saudi, Qutar, Baharain and the others around that area, Iraq still has a long, long way to go before ever matching the economy and trade that these areas have. Most of these places also have an exchange rate that = .26 US. Surely Iraq would not be able to support and fund an exchange rate of $1+ as stated in many of these rumor mills.
Thanks again for a realistic site to discuss the dinar.
Why not at least keep your IQD in Warka earning interest?
At 7 to 10% (cd) annual return from the bank, why not - rather than divesture - develop instead a preparatory real-event exit strategy for your money and collect the interest in the meantime?
I know you to be considerate and that you think deeper than the sea, and so I'd like to hear more from you...maybe even that which you have chosen not to say so far.
If you've already said as much as you're comfortable with regarding your IQD decision then, well, I'd like to know what you're thinking about next - when you're ready.
Barack Obama’s approval index number dropped to a new low today.
Rasmussen reported:
Quote:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-six percent (46%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21 That’s the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President (see trends).
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At the end of his second term President George W. Bush had a 43% disapproval rating.
In less than one year Barack Obama managed to pi$$ off more people than George W. Bush.
Nice work, Barack.
We know. It must be Bush’s fault.
Hat Tip Doug Edelman
Comments:
1) He’s thrown all caution to the wind; ticking off the far left by sending more troops to Afghanistan, rather than bring them all home. The withdrawal from Iraq is running, more or less, on George W. Bush’s timetable, much to the chagrin of the far left. And the Black Caucus is – almost unbelievably – scolding him for not doing more specifically for Blacks. They somehow think a black president should do more for “his own” folks, at the expense of all others. Even Obama knows that’s not realistic. (So much for the woman in Florida who said on election night, “Obama is going to pay my mortgage!”).
He’ll continue to get high approval numbers from Illinois; especially Chicago – along with the movie star crowd in Californicate.
When the cost and inefficiency of his so-called health care legislation is realized, even that support will dwindle.
Assuming he succeeds in giving amnesty to about 12 million illegal aliens, he’ll pick up a few points there.
When all is said and done, he’ll be VERY fortunate to pull in any approval number above 25, which puts him on just about the exact same level as the Democratic controlled Congress.
His Hope and Change stardom rocketed upward a year ago and it’s coming back down at almost the same rate of speed. 2010 will certainly be a year to remember for Democrats.
2) A huge difference between Rasmussen and the other polls is that Rasmussen is virtually the only pollster that includes only likely voters (the LV next to their number on RCP), rather than all adults (most of the rest) or registered voters.
Rasmussen claims to be the closest poll to the actual results in the last couple of national elections due to this.
So, it appears that the best group for the polling is LVs, and that’s the “outlier”. Outlier, maybe, but more reliable. These are the ones who will vote, and their ratios matter.
3) The problem with “thinking strategically” is that it really helps to win a few battles along the way. What Obambi’s done so far doesn’t count as a “win”: Copenhagen was a disaster, the health care reform bill somehow morphed into the Insurance Industry Protection Act, and last time I checked we were still in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There’s no sense of useful involvement or engagement on his part in any issue he’s come out for: Obama makes a speech, Reid and Pelosi follow along behind with a shovel and broom. All he seems to do is read the words scrolling across the teleprompter screen and then go play a few rounds of golf. And they aren’t even his words: He has a speech writing staff. Off-teleprompter he’s a worse speaker than GW Bush was ever smeared as.
Bill Clinton was going down this same path after 1993 and was only saved by that nutjob blowing up the Federal Building in OK City. Unless something similar happens and Obama can seize the moment like Bubba did he’ll be a lame duck after the 2010 elections.
4) So, we can start using the phrase “The failed policies of the 0bama administration…”?
I suppose I have had a paradigm shift concerning Iraq and its Dinar. With 32 trillion notes in circulation I now equate the currency with war script issued to troops during the Korean War. The economic fundamentals do not support revaluation or reversion to a previous rate; there is to much currency in circulation.
Next, the currency is pegged to the USD and not backed by any tangible assets like gold or oil. Iraq has little to no gold reserves and without the Hydro Carbon Law a petro dinar cannot be created. Have you ever asked yourself why the oil law is stuck in Parliament since 2007. Iraq never plans to revalue the Dinar; instead it will either create a new currency or wait until it joins the GCC. In either case it is to be a long wait.
Al-Warka remains a possibility and I may in the future choose to open an account and fund it strictly through wire transfers. In this down market where can I put my money and make 7% to 10%? ISX with a limited number of companies and too many shares issued by said companies it has been over-hyped. Iraq is not a free market economy and consumer spending does not drive the market as it does here in the U.S.
Earl, am I still invited to dinner? There are other investments I wish to pursue. The three years dedicated to the Dinar has not been a waste; instead I have learned a lot. I hope you and your family have a great Christmas. Talk to you later.
Sorry to hear about your reversal of heart on the Dinar.
Certainly, there is speculation both ways - for and against it.
There always has been.
IMO, it comes down to what God is doing in the country.
I hear the doom and gloom about Iran taking over the country.
I hear the Iraqis are ungrateful louts and stingy toward their people.
But I also hear about (as you posted) a great fervor of patriotism in Iraqis.
And how they will choose their own leaders based on what is good for the country.
Which view do you listen to?
You also spoke of fiat money in the US and in Iraq.
Yet, we all know the Iraqi currency can be stronger than it currently is.
It is only a question of will and moving that way.
For now, the Iraqis have communicated their desire to remain under the Chapter 7 provisions.
This seems due to uncertainties about how the economies of the world and US are fairing during this time.
Bold moves when they are only emerging from under a tinpot dictatorship are unadvisable, they believe.
But I still think the longer term view for Iraq is good.
So I am not bearish on the Dinar and will wait and see how it plays out.
All my best to you, do check back from time to time - you are welcome.
Sara.
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UNSC extends arrangements for deposit of Iraqi oil revenues until Dec. 2010
Politics 12/21/2009
UNITED NATIONS, Dec 21 (KUNA) -- Noting Iraq's progress in the security, political and economic fields, while recognizing that the country still needed regional and international support in order to advance further, the Security Council on Monday decided to extend until 31 December 2010 arrangements for depositing the revenues from its oil and gas sales into the Development Fund for Iraq (DFI).
Acting unanimously under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, the council also extended the task of the International Advisory and Monitoring Board (IAMB) in overseeing the Fund for the same period.
The Council also decided that those decisions would be reviewed upon request by the Government of Iraq or no later than 15 June 2010.
The council requested the Secretary-General to provide written reports to the council on a quarterly basis, with the first report no later than April 1st, on the progress made in strengthening financial and administrative oversight of the current DFI, as well as the legal issues and options to be considered to implement successor arrangements and an assessment of Iraq's progress in preparing for the successor arrangements for the Fund.
The council also called on the Iraqi Government to put in place the necessary action plan and timeline by April 2010 and to ensure the timely and effective transition to a post-Development Fund mechanism by next December, which takes into account IMF stand-by arrangement requirements and includes external auditing arrangements and enables Iraq to meet its obligations.
It further requested Iraq through the head of the Committee of Financial Experts (COFE) to report to the council on a quarterly basis, with the first report no later that next April to provide an action plan and timeline for the transition from the DFI and details on the progress made in strengthening financial and administrative oversight of the Fund, with subsequent quarterly reports to provide an assessment of progress against the action plan and oversight improvements.
Annexed to the resolution was a letter by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki addressed to the council president last week, in which he urged the members to extend the arrangements for both the DFI and IAMB until the end of next December.
In his letter Al-Maliki vowed that the government will in 2010 make "appropriate arrangement" for the Fund and the Board with a view to "ensuring that oil revenue continues to be used fairly and in the interest of the Iraqi people," in conformity with the Constitution and with the international "best practices with respect to transparency, accountability and integrity".
That, he argued, "cannot be achieved without the continued assistance of the international community by means of the adoption of a Security Council resolution whereby the arrangements are extended under Chapter VII." Iraq wants to keep the DFI under Chapter VII in order to protect it from any claimants.
I am delighted to see you back posting. I consider your knowledge and wisdom to be exceptional.
Rob N:
Sorry to hear that you are giving up on the dinar. We will miss the valuable information that you supplies to this Blog.
Before you go, please give us a little insight into what the future holds for those of us who choose to stay-the-course. Do you think the dinar will slowly increase in value and that we will be able to cash in at some future time with a little profit or do you envision Iraq nationalizing the dinar and issuing a replacement currency and leaving us high and dry. I know you can only speculate but I value your opinion.
Rob, you mantioned to Earl that the Dinar has far too many bills in circulation, 32 trillion. You also stated that you believe that the economic fundamentals do not support revaluation or reversion to a previous rate because of this. I have also heard (before) speculation that the Dinar will RV at somewhere around the three dollar mark and I believe that is the figure you (and many others) are citing there as "the previous rate." So, even if there is ten times the amount of bills in circulation than should be, perhaps that drops the value to one tenth of that value, or somewhere around thirty cents. Not the "gravy" of the three dollar crowd, but also not a terrible value for Iraq or speculators. Also, if Iraq has intrinsic value due to the oil it holds, and it does join the GCC, it will bring in a solid value which may help raise the overall strength of that currency so that the Dinar will be exchanged at a decent value going via that scenerio as well.
You mention that the Dinar currency is pegged to the USD and not backed by any tangible assets like gold or oil. Well, the entire world has taken strong drinks from this fiat fountain and that is the status quo. The USD is not backed by tangible assets like gold, either. It is not on a gold standard. But the current fiscal crisis looming over the US is one which even concerns those backing the currency, the Chinese. If the Dinar is pegged to the USD and the USD is devalued.. where does that leave Iraq? This must concern Iraq and hence, that is part of why they chose to remain under Chapter 7 provisions, as I stated before. It is a cautious plan, seeking to protect the Iraqi people from further upheaval and worldwide economic events. They have been through enough in the last while and are seeking a more careful road back to its rightful place in the world after being stuck under a dictatorship for so long.
You say that "Iraq never plans to revalue the Dinar; instead it will either create a new currency or wait until it joins the GCC." I believe that is true of Mr. Maliki.. that HE does not ever plan to revalue the Dinar. However, I think it wrong to say that is true of all the Iraqis, and there are those who would see the wisdom of a robust Iraqi Dinar and also of private enterprise/capitalism over state control of the oil fields. The Kurds are a properous people who would do well without any training wheels or government interference. The fact that Mr. Maliki is more socialist like Obama in his viewpoints does not mean all Iraqis are, anymore than saying that because Obama is a socialist all Americans are.. but it can look that way when a person has that much power within the structure of government and holds to those socialist values. Mr. Maliki is NOT a free market person, and is for more and more state (really, Maliki) control. He and Obama hold a lot in common, I believe. I hope the Iraqi people do not re-elect him but put in someone else with more free values and for less state control of their lives and assets (oil). This could work toward a RV, certainly. I liked Mr. Mahdi that way and I have been thinking that he would be better for the country's economic prospects and ability for the average Iraqi to live a freer life and better standard of living for the common people, out from under so much central control.
As for creating a new currency, I think there are those Iraqis who would like to join the GCC. That is a viable option in their minds. I am not sure it is the BEST option, but it is one I think their conservative people may be more comfortable with. To go from complete dictatorship to capitalism is such a difficult reversal or course correction that it is deemed quite radical, I believe. The GCC is a "safer" option to many, and could be seen by them as viable if they are strong enough not to be mown over but receive assurances they will play a strategic role which does not diminish their value and worth but enhances it. It is still playing with the "big boys" and those people are sharks. Not an easy choice, but certainly not the deep waters of capitalism, which seem a bit chilly after so long in the corrupt bathouses and sauna rooms of a corrupt tinpot dictatorship such as Saddam's. Many are just not so ambitious as the Kurds whose economic fortunes could easily take off if given the chance.. either on their own or under a more open and free federal government in Iraq.
Those were my recent thoughts on it.. any comments on anything I stated? Rob.. NEIL.. or board? Thanks for the positive comment, too, Neil.. hope these thoughts are of some use to you. I am open to discussion and/or correction by you or any reading the board.. let me know if you have any opinions on my views,
America has spent $1 trillion on Iraq. In the news: All the oil contracts are going to Europeans and Chinese. WTF? Only 2/10 of contracts are going to America. Now China, our rival, can develop their economy with lots of Iraqi oil....thanks George Bush (sarcastic).... Bush screwed up. He is a failure. A loser. Biggest loser anytime for President. Spend a trillion conquer a country floating on oil, then leave the country to other countries to gain the benefits? What a moron....Bush was a fool, a failure, an idiot.....now you people are going to get ZERO dollars for your investment, like Rob said.....you are Bush's idiots....serves you right for supporting that prick.
Anonymous: You were a little harsh in your comments but I believe that you are spot-on with your analogy.
To continue my thoughts about the condition of the USA, I consider Iraq to be highly instrumental in the problems that we are having in the Country today. As some of you may remember, I have been opposed to our involvement in Iraq all along. The price we have paid is too high. In addition to the lives lost, we have spent hundreds of billions of dollars which we had to borrow. The Iraqi war has cost Republicans the House, the Senate and the Presidency and has given us a President who is chipping away at the honesty, pride and will of the American people.
I would like for someone to tell me a single benefit that we have reaped or are going to reap from our efforts in that Country. Please don't tell me that we had to invade the Country because of "weapons of mass destruction" because there were none to be found when we got there otherwise Mr. Bush would have never admitted that there were none. Iraq was never much of a threat to us even if they had WMDs as the Country was too small, primitive and far away. Iran is more of a threat than Iraq was. Russia had a financial meltdown because of the exorbitant expenditures in fighting with Afghanistan for several years. We seem destined to the same fate.
I do see something good coming from all of this. When the people of the U.S. turned against the war in Iraq Mr. Bush ignored the peoples desires. The results were devastating and I see Mr. Obama doing the same thing in ignoring the will of the people that he slow down spending and back off from his health reform program but he refuses to listen to the people so I predict that next November 4th, there will be a huge increase in Republican Senators and Representatives elected.
This Global Government idea doesn't appeal to me and neither does our involvement and expenditures in all these other Countries while our Country deteriorates. I think we should pull in our horns a bit and get this Country back functioning like an industrial nation and on a sound financial footing before borrowing more money to help other Countries who care very little about us except for our money.
Right, the ISX is right now trading sideways, my goal is long term, and no need to watch it everyday, and I guess you have come to the same conclution.
Some days, I am happier turning a wrench, fishing, raking the yard, or just do something that is completely disconnected.
I arrived yesterday with military convoy, to the airbase Talil. Southern Iraq.
If and when Iraq will get their tourism industry going, they for sure have some stuff to show.
Yesterday when arriving in a long convoy, the daylight broke just when arriving to the base, a red sun rose slowly, and I saw a big stone building, on top of a hill.
In the sun the way it came in it was beautiful, I only learned later that I was looking at Abrahams tomb.
I am told that his old home is preserved.
Close to here is also the old cities of Babylon, and Ur.
Unfortunately, the tourism bussiness is not exactly booming here right now, and there are only two tours a months going to the Abrahams vistas.
Occasionally the Chaplain on base can arrange separate tours, but it was not in the cards for me this time, so I had to be happy with looking at all this stuff from a distance.
With hotels busses and regular tours, this specific area could very well be one of the hotspots to visit.
As I saw it yesterday though when I came in, they need to work on a lot of things before that could happen.
The desert is full of plastic bags, plastic bottles, plastic trash car wrecks, tankwrecks, old industrial wrecks, airplane wrecks, war and peace trash of all kinds, and inbetween filled with disposal trash, untendered to.
It is just not too nice of a sight to look out in the desert, now. It's like a big trash bag.
I saw containers, huts, and tents and a lot of camels, in this area you see a lot of Beduins, a people that losely can be said to be the Arabs Gypsies. Along the road side, very dirty children begging for food. they look like they have not had to eat for a month, and a bath for a year.
For any project like a desert cleanup, better housing for the Iraqi people, and getting children into schools, so they don't have to stand and beg for a living, a lot of transformation has to take place.
First the money, the flow have to start increasing, and with the oil, now apparently in the development, this will ensure a fatter society.
Second, an administration that has for thousand of years used bribes, under the table money, and payouts, as part of the standard operating procedure, this will be a very hard nut to crack.
Eventually, even in the most corrupt societies, like in the old European Monarchies, where the wealth was distributed according to social (the inbreeds) rank, when there was good years, even the bottomdwellers got a better share.
As a pure financial observance, an RV would kickstart almost everything in Iraq. With an elevated buying power even the bottomfeeders will rise.
For an RV to actually happen....hopefully, but if it actually will.....well, the only way is to keep pushing for it, but it is not known if our opinion is even heard in the ranks of the CBI's inner circle.
Southern part of Iraq, the roads are not as pottmarked by IED's like in the nothern Iraq, and many stretches are actually really nice. The roadsystem in need of repair is mostly in the war ravaged provinces up north.
We're suppose to be out of Iraq completely in a couple of years from now, but I have heard so may variations of it by now, that I dont really think that the masters in charge really know themselves.
One is sayng that we WILL keep five bases, another one that we have a 99 years defense agreement with the Iraqis, another sayng that the withdrawal will be complete, and so on.
We are in a withdrawal moode, at least I can say that. I was at a base, a couple of days ago ( TQ, close to Falluja) and the whole base is more or less in crates and containers now, I had a flat tire, and the place was in such a dissaray that one of the guys at the service station had to go back to his own hootch to geet one of his private tools, just to get the job done.
Half of that base is already cordoned off, with barbed wire, and the Iraqis are back in that half.
We definitely are on the way out, but to what degree, I don't know.
Other bases are building up, as people from other bases are coming over. We are consolidating and are getting more and more concentrated it seems.
I used to run watermissions with a tankertruck to small outlying forts, drinking and shower water, but no more. They are turned over more and more to the Iraqis.
This consolidation will probably continue as time goes by, until we either are out completely or are set in a few big bases.
It is of my opinion that very little of the material we have hauled in over the years will actually be removed and transported back.
All the barracks, those are not really a high cost item, big and space demanding in transport, all the electrical wiring, you really cant start cutting wires, and roll it up, plumbing, water containers, road improvements, asphalt layed, and so on over the years, you really can't hack it up and ship it back.
Military hardware goes back, but some of the lesser wanted vehicles, will probably stay.
All in all, the big move I had anticipated, convoy after convoy with stuff, going to Turkey, Jordan or Kuwait, have not really happened, it seems more like it is business as usual.
From what I understand, each base commander have a budget number that he needs to fulfill, for returning items value, rather than an item list.
The government waist is tremedeous, I have seen fields of boxes, full of stuff that is fully useable, just sitting and rotting away. Boxes with fire extingushers, electrical conduit, toilet paper, odd things like PVC glue, stainless steel food heaters, including boxes of cleaning powder for it. Looooot's of odd stuff. Boxes after boxes.
Another complete waist is the way Dep of Defense is hiring workers.
The idea with a Dep of Defense contractor is that they will hire a man from the civilian sector that is a proffessional in his area, and thus the military will not have to recruit a man for that particular activity, and instead the military can concentrate on doing pure war activities with the men or women they recruit.
Well, the big defense contractors, then charge the Government pretty hefty charges for each man, they can bring to the scene of operation to do the service the military need for their support.
Then the big military contractors turn around and create a big conglomerate of sub companies based in Asia, Africa or Middle East, and hire people from those countries and fill in the DOD, required work spots. The people from the other countries dont get anywhere close to what we get, so DOD, the DOD contractor, and the DOD subcontractor are all happy, they get a bargin price for services.
So on bases, we have a very very big population of third world countries people doing anything from laundry, food handling, fueling, service repairs, and on and on.
Hardly anyone speaks any English at all. Very broken English.
Their contracts are very hard, they can not go home for two years, and may get maybe between 400 to 800 Dollars a month. mostly in the 4-500 Dollar range.
This is creating massive security problems, as these paople have to be living under special conditions, in their own compound, guarded and shuffled around with busses, to and from where they need to be.
Lot of restrictions are set on them what, where and when they can or can not do anything.
They are mostly used in modain jobs, as garbage handlers, food handlers, fuelers, and such, but some are used in critical areas as well.
At ANY base in Iraq, a securityfirm from Nebraska is hiring Ugandans exclusively to do the perimeter guard job, you will see them outside most any place in the base, such as the PX, ( General store) or DFAC ( dinner falility...the messhall) , checking you for ID.
A Ugandan national is checking any US citizen on a US base for most any entry, to most any point of interest. They also hold the perimeter, and do security searches when vehicles are arriving at bases.
Phillipinos, Pakistanis or Indians are mostly doing billeting and service jobs.
With this, a big underground black market has developet.
When fueling at my base, you will get a long list of things presented to you, it's like a WalMart.
-"Do you need a knife Sir"?....uh no thanks
-"Do you have batteries to your flashlight"?...Uh, well I think I am fine.
-"Need a flashlight Sir"?...uh no mine is fine...thanks.
-"What is your shoe size Sir"?
You know it is all stolen, you get 200 Dollar items for 20-30 Bucks.Brand new in it's original wrapper for the most part.
In my own hootch I have been lifted from a nice Smith and Wesson pocket knife, in my truck I have been lifted from a camera. (Whe we are arriving at a base, most of the time, you are taken out of your truck, while the Ugandans, are doing a "Security check", they open up everything you have.....and help themselves to a couple of Cameras and Ipods at the same time.)
The Idea that a civilian man will take a military mans job, as a contractor, have spilled over into a military contractors heaven, where instead of money going back into the US economy, by employing US citizens, we are instead doing the local economies of Pakistan, India, Nepal Uganda and Phillipines, a favor, and at the same time increasing the security risks, and on base crimes over the roof, by hiring 3rd world people to do the US militarys job.
We dont "owe" any other country any favours when it comes to our militarys, job openings.
My comment to that is, hire only a person from the US that can show a valid SS number, and you will get well needed money back into the US economy, at the same time as you will get a big handle on the security problem.
United States real estate mogul Donald J. Trump has been diversifying and moving East with his properties and it now appears he is in the Far East buying Dinars, $30 Million U. S. Dollars.
Donald J. Trump “It’s time for all of us to diversify our assets and take back the American dream” . the Donald trump list of investments grows as we speak; Trump Casino, Trump International Hotel, Trump Marina Hotel and Casino, Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort and Trump Tower, TV Shows, properties in New York, Las Vegas; Chicago; Miami; Los Angeles; the Caribbean; Hawaii; New Jersey; Scotland; Dubai; Dominican east region, Reality Dating the Trump University, vitamin and health products and now the New Iraqi Dinar.
“It’s time for all of us to diversify our assets and take back the American dream”. Donald J. Trump
It appears now Trump Big Buy into Dinar is confirmed. There has been a rumor about this for a while but it has remained unconfirmed for the most part until very recently. In the past week the source of the sale a dealer involved and a person in the hi-raise industry have confirmed the Big Buy.
Donald Trump - synonymous with luxury high-rises, his TV show and a distinctive hair style - is now putting his money into the Dinar investment / speculation arena. It is not for resale but as a hedge and as with many in anticipation of the revalue of the New Iraqi Dinar.
Many believe that the Dinar will return to its historic value of $3.20 as opposed to it value today of less then one cent.
The source lives in Bagdad and has been involved in the Dinar business for the past 5 years and sells to 21 dealers in North and South America and has confirmed a stepped delivery schedule of $30 million dollars US. They have all been delivered at this point.
The dealer lives in the mid west United States and stated that he was contacted by an agent who was looking for a source to obtain the 30 million dollars of Dinars about a year ago. He was unable to put the deal together by himself and set up the original teleconference between the source and the agent for a finders fee. The agent never revealed who he was representing but the source did the day the deal was put together.
Final confirmation was made last week in a unrelated interview. The interview was about the New Trump Network that just launched with a person who has been close to the Trump Empire, and the Trump / Dinar rumor came up.
We now confirm is the Trump Big Buy Into Dinar rumor, and true to his statement It’s time for all of us to diversify our assets and take back the American dream” Donald may well obtain another American Dream of turning 30 million into 30 billion!
The article you posted about Trump buying Dinar originated in 2006 and has not been independently confirmed. I highly suspect the authenticity of what you posted. I also suspect you posted this article because you are a Dinar dealer and you see sales slipping.
Not all nations are following the path of the U.S. or Iraq in monetizing its debt with the creation of worthless paper notes. Both China and India are buying gold in order to shore up their respective currencies. Since China has recently bought 2 metric tons of gold. China's desires the Yuan to be the world reserve currency. In fact, China is aggressively encouraging its own citzenry to purchase gold. In contrast, our government seeks to artifically manipulate the price of gold and silver to discourage its citizens from owning any.
Concerning the Dinar, the New Iraqi Dinar like all other fiat currencies is too prevalent. As I said, the $32 trillion Iraqi Dinars currenly in circulation exceeds the country's GDP; which in 2008, was estimated at $84.7 billion. Do you honestly believe there is value in a currency where its over-supply exceeds GDP? Iraq has chosen to venture down the road of monetizing instead of anchoring its Dinar to hard assets like gold or oil. Iraq has not any measurable gold. In its current form the Dinar is not a petro currency and without the HCL and an increae in oil production a petro-dinar will not exist. In fact, Iraq does not produce enough oil (2.5 million barrels a day) to jusify passage of the HCL or tie its fiat Dinar to oil. I believe this is why the legislation has been in parliament for over 2 years. Having an over abudance of paper money creates an imbalance and does not make for a robust currency.
This Bremer Dinar is nothing more than war scrip created by the United States. What is the definition of war scrip? U.S. paper currency issued for temporary emergency use, e.g. by an occupying force. Our industrial military complex in Iraq is an occupying force the current Iraqi Dinar is meant to be a transitory currency. I think it is imperative for us to face the hard honest truth about the Iraqi Dinar; it is not honest money.
The Iraqi Dinar in its current form is not its final form. Once the occupiers leave and Iraq is left to govern itself a currency change will occur. Iraq's current monetary notes (25000, 10000, 5000, and 1000) are inflationary only and Iraq will either lop its currency introducing homogenius denominations matching those of the other gulf nations or they may keep the occupiers currency and transition to the unified currency of the GCC. Iran's desire to lop its own 10000 rial may be an omen of what is to come inside Iraq.
I have moved from Bull to Bear concerning the Iraqi Dinar; the reality of this ivestment is it is the dealers that have handsomely profited not those of us who bought the currency. In my view holding this currency is a lossing proposition and I recommend getting out while there is still a market to do so.
What have we got here, Rob N, loosing patience and a heckler is dooing one liners.
The Dinr is long term, and aas most hve hoped that it would go quicker than it is going, the long term is still long term
An RV would be nice, and a deiverance to some, but all in all, everything depends on a turnaround in Iraq.
with long teerm I am looking t it this way. whatever time schedule this is on, it will not stay the same forever, and the potential prospects are very very good.
My approach too this is basically that I have set my trap, have the Dinar in the accounts I like and have my stock portfolio all set.
At this point I dont need to check the charts or CBI website everyday for an exchange rate difference.
I don't need to check my account everyday, I know I am getting my 7% , and I dont need to check the ISX for stock changes everyday.
The trap is set, if it goes well and the trap snaps,, I will bevery happy, and if it doesn't catch anything one day or the other, I m not worried one bit.
I have a long term bullish attitude, but are not deciding everyday if I will be bullish or bearish on the Dinar.
The old saying is to not invest more than you can lose.
With that in mind, I invested the amount that will make absolutely no differene in my life. I would ofcourse hte to lose it, if things go bad, but it will not make any differene at all, because I invested this money about three years ago now, and in that sense, it is already gone. I have not seen them since then and my life is still happy.
I have read some bloggers in the past that have a completely different way to look at things, some seems almost desperate.
True or not, but some seem to be sitting on a couple of millio Dinars in a drawer somewhere, and the rest of their life is in complete shambles, and this is their only way out.
That is desperate.
Pulling out a stack of Dinars, put it under the table lamp, eyeing each one of them, fondlig them, ...c'mon.
Any investment, at least in my eyes contains a certain element of risk.
If that is known...then so what?
If it is not that serious, attention spans will be left for other things in life, it will be possible to laugh, and actually hear the birds sing come spring.
Thanks Roger.
All the best to you in this New Year.
Rob N.. have you sold your Dinar yet?
If not I may take the time to post or email you why I think you should keep them.
I do think I have a different view and perspective than most.
But if you sold them already.. there is not much point.
Dinar Dealer, why do you torture me? Leave me alone. My whole life is in worthless war scrip. I can't hear the birds sing. I have a couple millio over by my lamp. I fondlig them daily. I'm desperate. My life is a shambles. Let's face the truth: we are fools. I'm done. I think I'll go read Sarah Palins biography.
I have sought the Lord about sharing with you some of what the Lord has taught me concerning the Dinar and what He is doing in the world - and thus the underpinnings from a theological perspective of why the Dinar will revalue, even though those who hold the current purse strings in Iraq are unwilling to do so, as you have seen. And, you know, I could quote and show you from articles in the news what fits with this now, and explain why the arguments you bring out are irrelevant to what will actually happen.. and why. But He says to be quiet and not to speak of it... that He has given me understanding and that we must realize that the wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted (Ps 12:8). And, He says, "If a man walking in the spirit and falsehood lies and says, "I will prophecy to you of wine and of strong drink" - he shall even be the prophet of this people." (Micah 2:11)
This is not a good time historically, as I am sure you have discerned. I can only say to you that there is a plan higher than those of men, and that plan, as always, can encompass the entire spectrum of human life and experience, including war, and still not be thwarted.
Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Pro 9:12 If you are wise, you shall be wise for yourself: but if you scorn, you alone shalt bear it.
If you sell your Dinar, that is your choice.. but I do believe you can see which voice you are listening to by doing so. Mr. Anonymous is hardly the voice of reason you should listen to. Remember all the good President Bush has done.. and for this good - in keeping the Homeland safe and setting the oppressed in Iraq free from a horrible despotic dictator, etc, etc.. he is reviled by such as this poster/heckler (as are you, see the lastest post before this one he made mocking you while pretending to be you).
Pro 17:13 Whoso rewards evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.
Pro 4:14 Do not enter into the path of the wicked, and do not go in the way of evil men.
I believe that the one who would rejoice at your being out of the Dinar is Anonymous, who has mocked and laughed and ridiculed.. not us who have been your friends and fellow travellers along this road. Is Anonymous really the voice you wish to hear and heed? Think about it.
Still optimistic about the longterm future.. of the Dinar, the USA, Israel and the world - in spite of all the wicked now are empowered to throw at them,
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take to yourself the whole armour of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Stand.. we are very close, you would not have such opposition trying to drive you to dispair otherwise.
Numbers 22:28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Sara, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
While I respect you and appreciate your deliberate and thoughtful comments concerning the Dinar my current plans are to divest. Concerning George W. Bush has not done good. He radically expanded the powers of the excutive branch and he authored the Patriot Act. I believe the Patriot Act to be unconstitutional and restricts the bill of rights.
Saddam Hussein like the Shaw of Iran was the puppet of the United States; in short, Saddam Hussein stepped out of line Geroge W. Bush in concert with the Bilderberg group and the Council on Foreign Relations invaded and looted Iraq. Saddam paid with his life. 9-11 was carried out by CIA opperatives in order to justify the invasion of Iraq. Iraq did not have not weapons of mass destruction. The weapons they had were provided by the United States of America.
I have stated my opinion about the Dinar; there are too many in circulation and this amount exceeds the nations GDP. It is War Scrip. Printed and distributed by the Rothschilds. I am out. I think you should consider getting out to while there is still a market.
Rob, now you are making sense! It was all the Jews, right? The Rothschilds are Jews right? The Jews were behind 9-11 right? Thanks. Well, I'll let you go back to your KKK meeting.
My comments are not designed to be taken in racially; it is a fact, the Bildeberg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations dictated to President George W. Bush the date of the Iraqi invasion. Furthermore, the "crafty Paul Wolfowitz and the Rothchild banking empire [took] over the Iraqi monetary system". The article I am quoting from is by R.D. Bradshaw Understanding Money and War-Part VI. There are a total of 15 parts to this article; I have enclosed a link for you and the rest of the board to read.
You must learn that silence is golden. Enjoy reading this series of articles; my hope is that it is enlighting.
No WMD have you been living under a large rock for the last few years
The CIA, time for you to put your shrink on overtime rate sunshine
Look around are there bars on the windows and is the door locked from the outside, it seems you have checked into the funny farm moon beam, bit of a give away is the plastic eating irons with no knife
France and Germany delayed the coalition forses from starting the war,they are both up on charges of selling resticted items to Iraq for years before the war, why the delay well it gave Saddams Russian experts time to shift all the gear out of the country, do you remember there was a cargo ship loaded up and just doing long slow lazy circules in the gulf for weeks when the war started, then it just disapeared, where to pucked if I know but it must have had gear ect on board, the rest was flown out in striped out civie planes and the rest into next door counties, then bury the rest, oh and a few of the trops must have come into Iraq with their pockets full of yellow cake to leave it laying around so they could say it was Saddams
Or you may have had a very good holliday season loaded up with shed loads of drugs and booze and you are comeing back down to the real world with a bump
Saddam Hussein like the Shaw of Iran was a puppet of the United States (i.e. Bildeberg Group and the Council on Foreign Relations); once the puppet failed to continue the program his country was invaded, looted, and he was murdered.
There is not any justification for the invasion and looting of Iraq. Iraq did not carry out 9-11 and Saddam did not have WMDs. I call your attention to a CNN report dated October 7, 2004; I quote, "Saddam Hussein did not possess stockpiles of illicit weapons at the time of the U.S. invasion in March 2003 and had not begun any program to produce them, a CIA report concludes." George W. Bush used Saddam Hussein as a scapegoat for 9-11. 9-11 was carried out by CIA operatives in order to invade and loot Iraq. George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and his entire staff should be charged with War Crimes against humanity. George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown are themselves terrorists; Barack Hussein Obama is carrying out Bush's folly in Afghanistan widening to Yemen and it will eventually encapsulate Iran.
Concerning Iran it is my hope their Theocracy can quell the covert attempts by the U.S. Government at destablization. Our purpose in destablizing the country is regime change. Neo-Con Bill Crystal over joyed with glee hoped 2010 would bring a regime change in Iran. The U.S. wants to install another puppet in country; this is an attempt to institute global governance and the U.S. military is being used to carry out such a plan. If Iran survives these covert attempts at internal destablization it will signal a resolve in the Iranian people to withstand the wiles of the Great Satan.
Steve, call me a drug addict or an alcoholic but I see the world as it is and not according to political ideology. The U.S. is an evil country gripped by abhorrant people who wish to institute global governance. They want to enslave you to them by enticing you to go into debt and they wish to rape you of every shilling, farthing, or dime you make. The events we are witnessing have a greater significance than just political ideology. These events are threatening our very existence and freedom. Question everything because there is always a hidden agenda.
I wrote a lot of stuff back to you, in reply to your post(s),
but I had no peace to post or email you with it.
Perhaps you are right in your advice to Anonymous and silence is golden.
I planned 9-11. I did it. I admit it....I have said so on tape.......No wait.....I changed my mind.....Rob is right. I had nothing to do with 9-11. The CIA did it. They murdered their own people, the infidels. We Muslim radicals LOVE America. Listen to Rob N. He is my brother in truth. Death to America!
I was just makeing it light about you, did you not get plasterd and high over the vacation, everyone I know did, I couldent drive for two weeks had to take cabs everywhere as I was to smashed and crashed to drive, mine you it was my birthday on the 5th Jan so it extends the vacation for me, LOL LOL
Have a read on, http.www.jihadwatch.org/
On the right put in a search for, WMD Iraq
About the third article down headed
Report: Saddam transferred WMD to Syria
Then the next article as well and any more there on WMD
I will be glad to read those articles; regardless of Saddam Hussein's behavior America and the coalition did not have a right to invade and loot Iraq. Any regime change should have been organic initiated by the people of Iraq.
Saddam's treatment of the Kurds is not the reason we invaded and looted that country. George W. Bush made the outlandish claim of Saddam's ties to Al-Qaeda. On January 23, 2008 Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith with The Center for Public Integrity published an article, Iraq The War Card Orchestrated Deception on the Path to War.
In this article these gentlemen make the following statement; "Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq." One other excerpt should suffice: "On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war." You can read the entirety of the article at http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/.
The U.S. industrial military complex is in the midst of a push for global governance. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Iran is not about terrorism; it is about subduing an independent people who repel at the thought of being under the control of the Great Satan (U.S.)and his whore (England). The abhorrent people behind Bush and Obama wish to reduce the worlds population from 7,000,000,000 to a mere 500,000,000. These people wish to enslave you and make you a debtor to off-shore banking titans. Perpetual War creates perpetual debt. Global Warming and Obama Care are the vehicles to create perpetual taxation that will never pay for the perpetual debt. Eventually these Eugenists will experiment on you and kill you like Dr. Joseph Mangele. Oh! wait! These are the same people that funded Hitler and Stalin.
The New Iraqi Dinar is a fallacy. It is a Rothchild created financial instrument to coincide with the puppet government currently in Iraq. The 25000, 10000, 5000, and 1000 notes are inflationary. The amount of currency in circulation exceeds the country's GDP. I do not believe these inflationary notes that exceed GDP has value. In fact, the dinars value is an artifical value. Currently, Iraq is forced by the IMF and World Bank to use this worthless war scrip. As I have said on numerous occasions; get out of the Dinar and get out now.
"The U.S. is an evil country...They want to enslave you...George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and his entire staff should be charged with War Crimes against humanity. George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown are themselves terrorists"
He speaks the truth about The Great Satan. Death to America! Allah Akbar!
I am writing a book about proper parenting of young people. I thought my friend Rob N might enjoy this article about me:
The Associated Press, Updated: January 5, 2010 6:00 PM
Bin Laden's parenting style: Cruel, unusual
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - With a book written by one of Osama bin Laden's sons, and with news of a daughter sheltering in the Saudi Embassy in Iran, some of the blanks are being filled in on the life of the 9/11 mastermind's large family, including lurid details of his parenting style.
Two weeks ago, the son, Omar bin Laden, revealed that many of the children who had been with their father in Afghanistan escaped to Iran following the 2001 U.S.-led invasion, and were still together in a walled compound under Iranian guard.
Confirmation came with the news that a daughter, Eman bin Laden, had taken refuge in the Saudi Embassy in Tehran. Saudi officials are negotiating with the Iranians to allow Eman to return to Saudi Arabia, where she was born. On Tuesday Omar bin Laden told The Associated Press that he, as well as his wife and mother, had applied for visas to go to Tehran and help speed Eman's case.
Omar and his wife, Zaina Alsabah, later e-mailed the AP to report that another bin Laden son, 16-year-old Bakr, had been allowed to leave on Dec. 25. It said, "He arrived with great joy at the destination of his choice" and was with relatives. The e-mail did not disclose where Bakr was, but said he was not in Saudi Arabia.
Bin Laden's family was already under the spotlight in "Growing Up Bin Laden," written by Omar and his mother, Najwa bin Laden, and published in late October.
The book describes a brood of children — up to 20 from different wives — who were raised from an early age by an authoritarian father who shunned the luxury his inherited wealth could buy.
No laughter, or toys The mother and son write that the kids grew up in Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Afghanistan without laughter or toys, were routinely beaten, and lost their pets to painful death from poison gas experiments by their father's fighters.
When they became young adults, their father asked them to volunteer for suicide missions. When Omar protested, bin Laden was quoted as replying: "You hold no more a place in my heart than any man or boy in the entire country. This is true for all my sons."
It was then, Omar recounted, that he "finally knew exactly where I stood. My father hated his enemies more than he loved his sons."
Speaking to AP, Omar recalled visiting his father's training camps in Afghanistan and being sent to the front lines of the civil war that tore Afghanistan in the 1990s.
"I nearly lost my life so many times," he said. "People may ask why I left my father. I left because I did not want anyone to choose my destiny. ... And I believe I chose correctly, for I chose life. I chose peace."
Osama bin Laden was 17 when he married his Syrian first cousin, Najwa, then 15. The couple lived in the western port city of Jiddah, where bin Laden took three more wives.
In Jiddah's suffocating heat, the family was denied the use of refrigerators and air conditioners. When Omar's asthma got bad, his father ordered him to treat it with honeycombs and onions.
In the early 1990s, bin Laden fell out with the Saudi royal family over the presence of U.S.-led troops on Saudi soil and moved his wives and children to Sudan. There he owned farms, grew sunflowers and set up several businesses.
'Challenging trials' On a nighttime camping trip outside Khartoum, the Sudanese capital, bin Laden told his oldest sons to dig ditches in the desert and then ordered his wives and children to each lie in one of them, according to the book. When someone complained of the desert cold, bin Laden said they should cover themselves with dirt or grass.
"Do not think about foxes or snakes," the book quoted him as saying. "Challenging trials are coming to us."
In 1994, the Saudi government stripped bin Laden of his citizenship.
The next year five Americans were killed by a car bomb outside a U.S. military training center in Riyadh. It was the first attack on Saudi soil that the government blamed on bin Laden followers.
Bin Laden was forced to leave Sudan in 1996. He moved his family — minus his second wife and her children, who had left him — to stone huts without electricity or running water high on a mountain in Tora Bora in Afghanistan.
There he took a fifth wife, believed to be a Yemeni. He sent his children to the front lines of the Afghan civil war and made them attend hours of jihadist indoctrination.
In the book, Omar described how one day, while sitting with his father on the mountain, bin Laden told him about his plan is to destroy the U.S. from within.
"I sat mute, feeling not one jolt of passion for my father's life," Omar wrote. "I only wanted him to be like other fathers, concerned with his work and his family."
On Sept. 9, 2001, Najwa left her husband and returned to her native Syria, taking with her a son and her two youngest daughters. Eman, Omar's sister, was left behind with her father and siblings. Omar, who by then was 20, had left the family and Afghanistan earlier that year.
Fled to Iran In a Dec. 23 interview with Asharq al-Awsat newspaper, Omar said the bin Laden children were told to flee after the U.S.-led offensive in Afghanistan began, and they ended up in neighboring Iran.
He told the paper that the family had been unsure of their fate until Eman's escape.
It has long been believed that Iran has in custody a number of bin Laden's children who fled Afghanistan, most notably Saad and Hamza, who are thought to have held positions in al-Qaida.
But Iran never confirmed it and claimed to have been surprised to discover Eman was in the Saudi embassy.
Besides 17-year-old Eman, the siblings in Iran include Othman, 25, Fatima, 22, Hamza, 20, and Bakr, 15 along with 25 other relatives, among them bin Laden's daughters-in-law and 11 grandchildren, according to Omar.
Five other children are in Saudi Arabia and three in Syria, he said.
Son Saad left the compound less than a year ago and his whereabouts are unknown, Omar told the AP in an e-mail last month. This year, U.S. officials said Saad, who would have been 30, may have died in a U.S. drone airstrike in Pakistan.
Refuge in Saudi Embassy Omar told the paper that after eluding her Iranian guards, Eman managed to contact her brother Abdullah, bin Laden's first-born. He had left the bin Laden household in the 1990s when they all lived in Sudan, and is now in Saudi Arabia.
He advised her to seek immediate refuge in the Saudi Embassy, the paper said.
Omar and his wife, Alsabah, both spoke to the AP. Alsabah said the compound occupied by bin Laden's family is on the outskirts of Tehran and has several houses, gardens and a swimming pool.
"They are well-treated," she said.
Saudi Arabia and Iran are strategic rivals in the Middle East, and the sensitivities surrounding the bin Laden family's case are such that she asked that her and her husband's present whereabouts not be revealed.
Omar said getting his sister out of Tehran was "a family issue" and "It has nothing to do with politics."
Infidels: Of course, don't take my comments seriously, in the last story, about me telling my children of my plan to "destroy the U.S. from within". That story was planted by the CIA, who master-minded 9-11, as my friend Rob N. will tell you.
Well, I have to get back to beating my wives and children.
O.B. L. - My concern isn't with your parenting as much as the concern about your relatives and the potential threat to America they pose, which is going unheeded:
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OSAMA BIN LADEN'S RELATIVES FLY PLANES ACROSS USA SKIES
By J. Grant Swank, Jr.
Saturday, December 12, 2009
Federal Aviation Administration officialdom says it’s okay. The pilots have been vetted.
Like unto Barack Hussein Obama? Not good.
Bottom line: “’The many different spellings of bin Laden in the data make it impossible to determine exactly who has a license,’ said Mark Schiffer of Safe Banking systems, a computer security firm that analyzed the FAA records.
“’The information is so thoroughly compromised that any vetting system built on it is unreliable,’ said Schiffer per ABC News.
There are a dozen of bin Laden’s family who fly the skies, maybe more than that. So we are not sure as to exactly the number. Maybe a dozen. Could be additionals. Not good.
They are sanctioned as licensed pilots via the FAA. That opens the unlimited air spheres anywhere in these United States.
Three of these pilots just got their licenses in June 2009.
All sorts of “reasons” have been offered by the government as to why all this is stable for safety. We know how much we can depend on present
government.
Question: Why does America take any chances whatsoever with bin Laden’s relatives—close and distant? Does democracy have no logical limits or do we just open wide for Islam World Rule to reign?
According to the FAA records, the bin Laden family members who currently hold FAA licenses include:
Yeslam bin Laden, the half brother of Osama who lives in Geneva and runs the investment arm of the family business, the Saudi Binladin Group, SBG. His FAA license was issued just this year in June 2009, making it possible for him to fly his own Lear jet.
Omar bin Laden, a half-brother of Osama who is on the board of directors of SBG. He has held his FAA private pilot license since 1977.
Tarek bin Laden, a half-brother of Osama who is also on the board of the SBG firm. He was licensed in June 1985.
Carmen bin Laden, an ex-wife of Yeslam bin Laden, who lives in Switzerland. Her license was issued in July 1976.
Abdul Aziz bin Laden, a half-brother of bin Laden who has held a commercial pilot's license since October, 1978.
Abdullah bin Laden, an Osama half-brother who received a commercial pilot's license in June, 2009.
Randa bin Laden, a half-sister of Osama who received her private pilot's license in October 1978.
Ghalib bin Laden, a half-brother of Osama who has held a FAA commercial pilot's license since March 1991.
Nawaf bin Laden, a nephew of Osama, who received a commercial pilot's license from the FAA in September 1994. He is the son of Bakr bin Laden, whose FAA license was revoked for "security concerns."
Najiah bin Laden, a half-sister of Osama who formerly lived in Los Angeles. She holds a private pilot's license, first issued in August, 1993.
Shafig bin Laden, a half-brother of Osama who received a student pilot's license in 1995.
Khalil bin Laden, a half brother of Osama who lives in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and who received his student pilot's license this June.
A note concerning O.B.L.'s associates.
No, not the ones with flying licenses in the USA.
You know, the ones the authorities are not noting or "profiling."
(Isn't Political Correctness wonderful?)
But, some other ones:
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Bin Laden Guards Planned CIA Bombing
From the UK’s Times:
Suicide attack on CIA agents ‘was planned by bin Laden inner circle’
Tim Reid in Washington and Zahid Hussain in Islamabad
January 7, 2010
US intelligence officials believe that the suicide bomb attack that killed seven CIA officers in Afghanistan last month was planned with the help of Osama bin Laden’s close allies, raising fears that the al-Qaeda leader is enjoying a lethal resurgence.
They think that the attack could not have taken place without the prior knowledge and assistance of the Haqqanis, the powerful Taleban group thought to be shielding bin Laden.
The attack was carried out by a Jordanian doctor whom the CIA believed was about to divulge the whereabouts of bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al- Zawahiri. It is one of the deadliest blows against the CIA and has increased tensions between the US and Pakistan because of Islamabad’s repeated failure to target the Haqqanis.
The Haqqanis control a large block of territory on both sides of the Afghan-Pakistan border near the Afghan town of Khost, a Taleban hotbed near where the CIA officials were killed on December 30. It is also where the US believes bin Laden is hiding…
Pakistan has ignored US demands to target the strongholds of the Haqqanis’ leader, Sirajuddin Haqqani, whose father, Jalaluddin, founded the network and was a Mujahidin commander and ally of the US during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s. The network is said to be behind several audacious attacks, including the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul in July 2008…
What has alarmed the US is the fact that al-Qaeda and the Taleban managed, despite an intense US bombing campaign, to mount an operation that wiped out the top CIA experts involved in the hunt for bin Laden. “It’s a huge blow,” a former CIA officer said. “If you are Osama bin Laden, your biggest enemy is the CIA. This is a big hit.”
The attack was carried out by Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi, who came to the CIA via Jordanian intelligence. He had already provided accurate information on the whereabouts of lower-level al-Qaeda and Taleban operatives but he was allowed on to the CIA’s Forward Operating Base Chapman without undergoing a security check and then permitted access to more than ten CIA employees, an extraordinarily high number to congregate around an Islamist informant. He detonated his bomb soon after entering the base, killing four CIA field agents, three CIA security guards and a Jordanian intelligence officer. One of the dead was the CIA’s chief at the base, a woman in her mid-thirties…
Former CIA officials told The Times that the high number of CIA officers travelling from Kabul to meet al-Balawi reflected how desperate the agency was for information on bin Laden…
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It is probably safe to say that Mr. Obama’s campaign rhetoric about Bush’s failure in finding him was a factor in the death of these CIA personnel.
This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Thursday, January 7th, 2010.
It may be hard to believe but Osama Bin Laden is dead; he is now used by our President and Industrial Military Complex to continue these illegal and ungodly wars where our soldiers have died in Iraq for oil and are dying in Afghanistan to control and distribution of the opium trade. The war on terror is an excuse to introduce tyranny accross the world through global governance.
Uncle Sam: Like, man, leave my drugs alone, like Robby in the Sky with Diamonds said. Or else you just another Prick in the Wall. Stay the hell out of Drugistan, and Osamastan, like Robby said. Hey, Osama's dead, man. He was killed, while driving cab in Boston. The media is lying to you, man. The American Military is a drug running outfit, like Rob N was getting at. Like Jefferson Airplane said, the truth has come, to be lies. And can't you guys grow opium in Napa Valley like I used to do? The weather is great there, as any hippie will tell you. And hey: Tell your head dealer drug Obama to lay off. Since you guys invaded Afghanistan, the price of opium and doobies and hash pipes and roach clips has gone up higher than a biker chick on the weekend. I can barely afford to get stoned half the time. Sometimes, I'm so not-stoned that Rob makes sense. Peace, man.
The stated threat by O.B.L - and/or his associates and family (whether he is dead or not).. is that they hate the USA and wish "The Great Satan" destroyed. Regardless of the view on the Rich elite bankers, etc, which you mention.. this threat by these (OBL associated) people is real and not posed by the USA itself. You speak of "our soldiers" dying and take the view it is for a wrong cause, however, it is far more likely that by standing down from a war posture, America will encourage these terrorist elements to strike rather than discourage them from their war posture and make them into friends - because the enemy does not respect weakness. Therefore, in spite of your view from the "bankers" perspective, war is the right thing for America to do to defend her Homeland and it is not a "wrong cause" to defend herself. Perhaps there are those who wish to manipulate that defense of Homeland to their own will and benefit. However, you cannot taint the motives of those who are fighting this war on terror simply because there exists those who piggyback seeking their own profit onto the back of their defense work. (Ever seen the movie, "Lord of War?" - the rich elite you are concerned about are not the only ones seeking their own profit through war.)
If you wish to say those fighting nobly as best they can for the safety of their Homeland are fools because others in positions of wealth and power can move the entire structure to use them to weild their wicked wills.. I say that God is over all things and will work it to the good for those who are His in spite of the devil Himself having his aims in any military conflict.
If any schemes come to pass in the megapolitical arena.. it will also be because of God allowing it.. and I pray for His will all the time, whether the rich elite or the American military are the instruments of it, or He wills another will other than theirs to prevail. Pray it, my friend, "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be Done.. on earth as it is in heaven. Amen." And if He uses good or evil men to accomplish His will it does not matter.. so long as it is His will. And what has happened to Iraq has been His will, I am sure of that... as is the revaluation of the Dinar. Since you obviously don't think it is God's will, perhaps it is as well you are getting out of it.
I think it's fair to say, from his comments, Rob N distrusts America, his own country, and thinks those in America with money and power, are more of a threat to the world, than are terrorists who have publicly stated they wish to destroy America. Nothing wrong with that opinion, long as he knows it's an opinion, not a fact. It is valuable to have many perspectives on reality, even if many of them turn out to be wrong. Everyone has their opinion, but only God knows what will actually happen in the future. Humans don't. Any reasonable person can have an opinion. But any person who states categorically that they know all the relevant facts, including all motives of the supposed hidden, ultra-powerful elite, and knows 100%, for certain, exactly how things will turn out in the future, is a fool.
The rich elite have been with us for a long time.
King David wrote:
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly who prosper in the world, they increase in riches.
Psa 73:8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
Psa 73:17 I went into the sanctuary of God; then I understood their end.
Psa 73:27 For, lo, they that are far from You shall perish:
Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.
He then laments his own ignorance that he was looking at THEM and not from God's perspective:
Psa 73:21 Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
Psa 73:22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before You.
It is well not to be dismayed and to look to the Righteous Lord:
Psa 11:1 In the LORD put I my trust: how is it that you say to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
Psa 11:2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may secretly shoot at the upright in heart.
Psa 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
Psa 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
Psa 11:5 The LORD tries the righteous: but the wicked and him that loves violence his soul hates.
Psa 11:6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
Psa 11:7 For the righteous LORD loves righteousness; his countenance beholds the upright.
In the end, we are not to run away, but look to God.
They may indeed have plans.. but God's will is what will prevail.
And He is righteous and good, even through the dark times.. seeking peace and not evil for His people.
I have found on the actual Warka Bank website that the Al-Warkaa Bank is not affiliated with the actual bank.
Here is the website to look at this http://www.warka-bank.com/inner.php?type=3&id=31. I think I would read alot before I sent my money to them. After reading this I went to the Al-warkaa Bank website and it is real interesting but I am still skeptical about it. On there they try to sell you on different ways that you can become rich. I would do more research before I sent any information to these people. Good luck.
The elite including our very own industrial military complex is using our soldiers in a campaign to usher in global governance; the war on terror is the cover. Since GWB with CIA opperatives orchestrated 9-11 we have seen an attack on our civil liberties. The Patriot Act is an attack upon our freedoms guaranteed by our constitution. Another breech of our freedom is embodied by the TSA. Forcing members of the flying public to remove shoes, belts, and patted down is a form of unreasonable search and seizure. This is an overt violation of the 4th amendment.
I do trust this wicked and evil government comprised of eugenicists who in a worse manner than Saddam Hussein. Saddam may have used a noxious gas to poison his people but this government through the American Medical Association and the Food adn Drug Administration poisons its own pople slowly with hormones in our dairy products, cloned meat, and with medically corrupt vaccines. I think the example of the Tuskegee Airman warrants a distrust of this government.
Nouri Al-Malki like the Shaw of Iran is a corrupted U.S. puppet. I saw today an article about the potential overthrow of Al-Malaki. In order to stop global governance the people of Iraq, Iran, Yemen, and other middle eastern nations must decide their own destiny. Iran decided its destiny by installing a theocracy to rule it people.
A spirit of militant nationalism will rise in Iraq and its people may decide to elect new leaders or like Iran install a theocracy to rule its people. The Iraqi's must take a hold of their destiny and expell the U.S. immediately and decide for themselves what form of government to install. This attempt by the U.S. to covertly topple the Iranian government through internal destablization will fail. Just as Iraq has a right to determine its own destiny so does Iran.
The G.I. Joe currently in Iraq and Afghanistan are pawns of our own industrial military complex. Just like the average American the kids we send off to war have been lied to about this war on terror. Our national treasure has died in Iraq because of oil and they continue to die in Afghanistan is for control and the distribution of opium.
I guess the reverened Wright was correct in his diatribe damning America. I too join the chorus and damn America because of its overt destruction of our freedoms. I damn America because our government chose to kill 12,000 people on 9-11 in a staged attack to justify a war that does not exist. I damn America because it allows war criminals like George W. Bush and Barack Hussien Obama to invade and loot sovereign nations. I damn America because our soldiers invade Iraq at the behest of our industrial military complex and our soldiers rape that nations indegious women. I damn America because freedom of the press is dead in America. All that is offered to its citizens is propaganda. I damn America because freedom of speech is dead. Harry Ried will be forced to resign once Obamacare passes because of comments made about Obama.
Sara, you speak about God's will and perhaps God has had enough of the evil that exist in this country. Perhaps God will damn America and plunge this nation into the abyss through a total collapse of our monetary and fiscal policies. Perhaps he will damn America through plague, famine, and disease. All I know is this is not the America of Washington, Adams, and Jefferson; instead, it has morphed into an Amerika that looks like Hitler, Lennin, and Stalin.
I don't know much about your life, but I know you have been on this pages for a long time.
You're an icon here, and suddenly you are acting out exactly the same stuff that we all used to laugh our lips off, when some space walker comes along and describe how things "really" works, on these pages.
Rob N. take a chill pill, take a breather, I don't know what or whom's been feeding you crap, but whatever came out of it, you ended up a miserable being after accepting that shit.
Whatever or whoever is feeding you, you ended up hating people and things.
It's not whatever or whoever is feeding you, it is you, that accepted the feed.
You are the only one that can reverse it, don't accept crap that will bring you down to a miserable hateful being.
Go back to your sources and give them bumperstickers, that shows them you are not hateful, but full of game.
They should say: -"JOIN THE DARK SIDE...we have cookies".
Rob N has been a steady source of sanity the 2 years I have followed this site. He changed the last 2 weeks. Maybe Rob N has been pulling off a massive bullshit job on this site? Maybe he was bored and needed entertainment. Maybe he conned everyone into believing some BS he doesn't even believe......if he did, well done.....Or maybe he really does believe what he wrote the last 2 weeks....Which is it, Rob?
Al K
I am not a BS'er. I assure you my shift in paradigm is real. In my view, the Dinar is a scam, rouse, and hoax in the sense that I buy Dinar for $1,000.00 and it will revalue 1,000%. According to the CBI website there are 42 trillion Dinar in circulation; Iraq has recently taken a 7 trillion Dinar loan from the IMF. The amount of currency and debt far exceeds the countries GDP. These imbalances can only lead to a devaluation of the currency since the Dinar is not tied to assets of intrinsic value.
The current notes in circulation are merely inflationary notes. Iraq has repeated its stance that it will lop its currency. This is one method to reduce its current money supply. Another method is to wait to join the GCC. Since the country does not produce enough oil to tie its currency to the passage of the HCL will continue to sit in Parliament. Rationally speaking with 42 trillion Dinars in circulation Iraq can never produce enough oil to warrant the mythological revaluation.
I believe the current managed rate of 1170/1 will be the rate for the forseeable future. I am not ruling out an upswing to 1000/1. Iraq cannot and will not move the rate further than 1000/1 because it is not economically feaseable for them to do so.
I have to respond to you publicly as you posted so.
I was going back thru the posts and saw one which must have been caught in the filter and so posted later in which you vehemently damn America over and over again. You wrote, in part:
I guess the reverened Wright was correct in his diatribe damning America. I too join the chorus and damn America because of its overt destruction of our freedoms. I damn America because our government chose to kill 12,000 people on 9-11 in a staged attack to justify a war that does not exist. I damn America because it allows war criminals like George W. Bush and Barack Hussien Obama to invade and loot sovereign nations. I damn America because our soldiers invade Iraq at the behest of our industrial military complex and our soldiers rape that nations indegious women. I damn America because freedom of the press is dead in America. All that is offered to its citizens is propaganda. I damn America because freedom of speech is dead. Harry Ried will be forced to resign once Obamacare passes because of comments made about Obama.
Sara, you speak about God's will and perhaps God has had enough of the evil that exist in this country. Perhaps God will damn America and plunge this nation into the abyss through a total collapse of our monetary and fiscal policies. Perhaps he will damn America through plague, famine, and disease. All I know is this is not the America of Washington, Adams, and Jefferson; instead, it has morphed into an Amerika that looks like Hitler, Lennin, and Stalin.
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I believe that from an experiential point of view, God's JUDGEMENT or chastisement and God's damning can appear to be the same. What we are seeing happen is God's Judgement.. his chastisement on His people and Judgement on those who are wicked. We are seeing God take His hand off of America and allow evil upon her as we have not seen before. For my part, I have NOT desired this day:
Jer 17:16 As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow You: neither have I desired the woeful day; You know it: that which came out of my lips was right before You.
I do not desire this woeful day, and I have often cried tears before the Lord concerning it. I wish only good and favor (ultimately) for the USA. God has assured me that He is not finished with the US.. that this is not toward Her destruction, but improvement. While you may be angry about the few things you see wicked people doing based from the US and using worldly power, God sees so much more.. and I see only God's hand and will over it all.
Pro 16:7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
Obviously, America's ways do NOT please the Lord. And He has allowed enemies to rise up... these people you speak of who are attacking America's liberties are enemies.. and if the ways of the USA pleased the Lord, He would not allow their schemes to prosper, but He would thwart them. That He is not stopping them but allowing them to do what they are doing is not because they are so powerful, but because it suits His will for the USA. Why is that will not for good? Because the people's ways do not please Him and He wills to chastise them for allowing such wickedness.. using these people. These wicked people are like an AXE in the hand of the Lord, but who is it who weilds that axe? Who is it who lifts it up to chop? They have no power within themselves to do this.. it is the hand of God:
Isa 10:15 Shall the axe boast itself against Him that hews with it? Or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shakes it? As if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.
No men can do this. Nor can mere men of themselves be prospered to do that which I have seen is coming. What I saw in the vision will come to pass. It cannot be thwarted because it is God's will. When it does happen, many, perhaps including you, will say it is God "damning" America as she deserves. Millions will die. I do not desire this. But I do see God's righteousness in bringing it.. as I am sure you do. I cry.. those who damn may rejoice. But all must agree.. God is just in judging so and allowing such evil, isn't He? Yet, the ultimate aim of God in such calamity is not the utter destruction of the USA, but I assure you it will feel like it is to those going through such horror and pain. And there will be many brave people needed to set things right in the aftermath when the enemies rise up from within and try to seize the country. They plot from outside and inside.. planning to attack from within, awaiting for when they get their orders. A sample:
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'Chilling' new video: How to slit throats Jihad maneuvers taught at New York compound
Posted: December 15, 2009
By Bob Unruh
Jihad training video
A new video released by the Christian Action Network shows Muslim women at a compound in New York state practicing throat-slitting techniques and assault weapons attacks.
The video was distributed by the makers of the movie "Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.," which documents how a jihadist group has developed dozens of training camps across the nation.
WND reported at the time how Jamaat ul-Fuqra has built 35 compounds – mostly in the northeastern corridor of the U.S.
Now the organization has posted on YouTube a "chilling" training video provided to CAN by an unnamed law enforcement source about the Muslims of America headquarters in Hancock, New York.
Muslims of America reportedly is the name Jamaat ul-Fuqra, believed to have been involved in the beheading of reporter Daniel Pearl, uses in the U.S.
The video includes segments of training exercises in which one person appears to practice a maneuver that would slit the throat of a victim. There are episodes of what appears to be automatic weapons fire at a target and incidents in which a handgun is held point-blank at a "victim's" head:
The video shows women marching in military formation, scaling walls, engaging in hand-to-hand combat and also reveals a Muslim confirming that the organization's own census revealed that Muslims are a majority in the United States and they are claiming it as their own.
The speaker states, "We are 100 percent sure that Muslims are the majority in America."
He continues, "Our Islamic political party has based its manifesto on this fact. We want to declare once and for all that America is our country."
According to CAN, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2005 warned about Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani-based organization that "had the capacity to attack" America.
The U.S. State Department's 1998 "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report notes the organization "seeks to purify Islam through violence."
The report continued, "Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practice their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam."
CAN, led by Martin Mawyer, has researched Muslims of America for years and has provided its video to the FBI, State Department and Homeland Security.
To date, there has been no response from the government, the group said.
Mawyer told WND the political correctness America has adopted ultimately will be costly.
The hands of law enforcement and investigators are tied at this point, he said, because members of the organization are part of "a minority religion," "they are African-American" "and in this particular case, are women."
"Gilani has stated he is preparing his members to the Soldiers of Allah, and he's set up the most advanced guerrilla warfare training camps," he said. "He's being true to his word.
"If the evidence is right in front of our face and we have the words from the leader," Mawyer said. "I don't know how we continue to close our eyes and be blinded by such obvious affront to American values, the Constitution and our way of life."
The organization's "Homegrown Jihad" video includes a chilling scene of Jamaat ul-Fuqra's leader Sheikh Mubarak Gilani telling followers to "act like you're his friend. Then kill him."
According to the Religion of Peace website, there have been more than 250 jihad attacks by Muslims around the globe – including two inside the U.S. – in just the last two months.
The death toll from the attacks has surpassed 1,400, the report says.
You may remember the porous borders that are being ignored, as well:
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Texas Homeland Security Chief: 'Terrorists Crossed Border' -- MSM Ignores News
By Warner Todd Huston
September 19, 2007
On Sept. 13th, Texas Homeland Security Director Steve McCraw announced in a speech to the North Texas Crime Commission that Texas authorities had apprehended terrorist suspects who were sneaking across the Mexico/U.S. border. Shouldn't such a report be running through the MSM like wildfire? Yet, the MSM seems to be ignoring this explosive report with only local Texas news sources, a few Jihad watchers and bloggers having picked up the Director's statements.
The AP did have a report, shockingly enough, but few other MSM services seem to have found it as of yet... even though the story is about a week old.
DALLAS - Texas' top homeland security official said Wednesday that terrorists with ties to Hezbollah, Hamas and al-Qaida have been arrested crossing the Texas border with Mexico in recent years.
"Has there ever been anyone linked to terrorism arrested?" Texas Homeland Security Director Steve McCraw said in a speech to the North Texas Crime Commission. "Yes, there was."
The Director went on to name at least one name and make the clam that some 300 people possibly linked to terror or from countries where terrorism is endemic have been apprehended at the Texas border.
Here is the meat of the Director's comments:
McCraw identified the most notable figure captured as Farida Goolam Mahomed Ahmed, who was arrested in July 2004 at the McAllen airport. She carried $7,300 in various currencies and a South African passport with pages missing. Federal officials later learned she waded across the Rio Grande.
(O)n Wednesday, McCraw described Ahmed as having ties to an insurgent group in Pakistan and whose specialty was smuggling Afghanis and other foreign nationals across the border.
McCraw also said that since March 2006, 347 people from what he called "terrorism-related countries" have been arrested crossing the border in Texas. The number of Iraqis captured at the border has tripled since last year, he said.
"A porous border without question is a national security threat," he said.
Have the MSM simply decided that Director McCraw is just employing bombast to justify his government job? Have they decided his words are unimportant, without a national debate of his comments? Have the MSM collectively decided that the country doesn't need to hear this news?
Since most in the media are against the border fence, are they ignoring this story because it might strengthen public support for the fence being built?
It sure might seem so. A Google search of Director McCraw reveals quite a few Texas papers and TV stations reporting this week old news, but few national sources.
How will Obama rate on his national security agenda?
Will it be similar to that of his economic agenda?
As an indication, you may recall the recent views taken concerning the undie bomber and this revealed threat to the Homeland:
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Hundreds of Militants Planning Attacks From Yemen, Foreign Minister Says
Tuesday, December 29, 2009
Hundreds of Al Qaeda militants are planning terror attacks from Yemen, the country's foreign minister said Tuesday.
Abu Bakr al-Qirbi appealed for more help from the international community to help train and equip counter-terrorist forces.
His plea came after an Al Qaeda group based in Yemen claimed responsibility for the failed Christmas Day airliner bomb plot.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, alleged to be behind the attempt to blow up an American-bound aircraft, spent time in Yemen with Al Qaeda and was in the country only days before the failed attack.
Al-Qirbi said: "Of course there are a number of Al Qaeda operatives in Yemen and some of their leaders. We realize this danger.
"They may actually plan attacks like the one we have just had in Detroit. There are maybe hundreds of them — 200, 300."
Al-Qirbi said it was the "responsibility" of countries with strong intelligence capabilities to warn states such as Yemen about the movements of terror suspects.
The rightwing is not the enemy, they are those who will stand against all enemies foreign and domestic.. and there are a growing number of both of these. Those who stand God will bless and give them the victory. But as I said, between now and that victory, millions will die. It will seem like your wish will come true. It will seem like God damns America... but He is not. He is using the evil to chastise the just, as He always does through history. Darkness comes because men fall asleep. It is dark now.. but it is about to become a lot darker before we see light.
I pray for those on the stage of this drama.. those called to defend America. Those who have been called to victory must first turn to the Lord for wisdom.. so they may act as He would will them to. We cannot afford mistakes when the stakes are so high. We are gambling everything. And in the end.. the right will win, the evil will be put down and the country will be at rest. I have seen this. God has shown me this. But that is not for 140 years from now. The eventual return to what we had before is not for a long time, and with much struggle. But the US will remain and be at peace, not war.. and prosper, again.. eventually.
Those who die will not do so in vain. The cause they fight (and some will die for) will prevail. America is not over.. it will rise up and those who wish her demise now will be thwarted in all their plans. Because America WILL look to God.. but what it takes to make Her look.. is devastating. The humility necessary cannot come but at a great cost.
I have wept many tears for what I saw.. and wished to be on the frontlines helping America. But the Lord told me to stand back. Do you honestly think mere human opponents could silence me? No, He told me to take a Sabbatical for this last year because He had other plans. He gave me to understand that it is like Aslan in "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe".. where the wolf was about to devour Peter's sisters and Aslan and the Narnians wished to move in to help finish off the wolf, but Aslan said, "No, stay your weapons, this is Peter's battle." And the wolf taunted Peter saying he was not a king, but that he would die.. and Peter slew the wolf. Then, after cleaning his sword of the blood, he was named by Aslan as Sir Peter Wolfsbane. This is what is happening. Americans are being called to stand and fight.. to win the honor and place which is ordained to be theirs as kings before the Lord Almighty. And I have a place, like the Narnians who wished to help, but for a year I was told to stand and watch, not comment. Others would rise up to win their places in time and eternity, and so many have. Those who are called are as Peter was before he slew the wolf, somewhat fearful and skittish still, but they have seen it needs slaying now and are not going to be timid or fear they will die, drawing back and letting the enemy win their Homeland away from them. They will fight and they will win. God will prosper them. It is a fight, but the cause is just and God will be with them as they look to Him.
It must be noted that when people ask "Where is God?".. in the illustration above, Aslan was standing right there watching the fight between Peter and the wolf. God is there, but when men are supposed to fight, He does not intervene. It was ordained of Him for Peter to fight. It was Peter's battle.. and this one is the US's battle. Also, note yesterday's interview between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, which was instructive.
Only a year ago, he comments, he would not have believed what he has now been led to believe. And God, they agree, must be allowed to have His place in the lives of those who stand up in America to bring her back to where she is supposed to be, and where the (God- fearing) founders meant her to be.
It is not over.. it has just begun. Do not become so discouraged. America is not an evil country, founded upon Communism or an Islamic caliphate, with all that means for man's inalienable rights which have been given by God. God is not only in her documents, but in many, many hearts.. and He does not lose, nor do His people.. ultimately. Have a little more faith in the good will of God for America, and expect God to remove and cleanse the evil, not abandon His own. Be to her what God Himself ultimately is.. a friend and not an enemy. God will Judge and then Bless.. do not go against His will by damning America when God Himself has not willed to do so.
Report: Al-Qaida eyes Iraq ties for U.S. attack
Top U.S. security agencies highlight ‘persistent and evolving threat’
WASHINGTON - The terrorist network Al-Qaida will likely leverage its contacts and capabilities in Iraq to mount an attack on U.S. soil, according to a new National Intelligence Estimate on threats to the United States.
The declassified key findings, to be released publicly on Tuesday, were obtained in advance by The Associated Press…
The report makes clear that al-Qaida in Iraq, which has not yet posed a direct threat to U.S. soil, could become a problem here.
“Of note,” the analysts said, “we assess that al-Qaida will probably seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI), its most visible and capable affiliate and the only one known to have expressed a desire to attack the homeland.”
The analysts also found that al-Qaida’s association with its Iraqi affiliate helps the group to energize the broader Sunni Muslim extremist community, raise resources and recruit and indoctrinate operatives — “including for homeland attacks.”
National Intelligence Estimates are the most authoritative written judgments of the 16 spy agencies across the breadth of the U.S. government. These agencies reflect the consensus long-term thinking of top intelligence analysts. Portions of the documents are occasionally declassified for public release…
The new report echoed statements made by senior intelligence officials over the last year…
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Statements that apparently were never reported by our "watchdog media."
Instead we were treated to the thoughtful analysis of made up/anonymous “intelligence officials” such as these from the Washington Post:
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Al-Qaeda in Iraq May Not Be Threat Here
Intelligence Experts Say Group Is Busy On Its Home Front
By Karen DeYoung and Walter Pincus
Sunday, March 18, 2007; A20
Al-Qaeda in Iraq is the United States’ most formidable enemy in that country. But unlike Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda organization in Pakistan, U.S. intelligence officials and outside experts believe, the Iraqi branch poses little danger to the security of the U.S. homeland.
As the Democratic Congress continues to push for a military withdrawal, President Bush and Vice President Cheney have repeatedly warned that bin Laden plans to turn Iraq into the capital of an Islamic caliphate and a staging ground for attacks on the United States. “If we fail there,” Bush said in a February news conference, “the enemy will follow us here.”
Attacking the United States clearly remains on bin Laden’s agenda. But the likelihood that such an attack would be launched from Iraq, many experts contend, has sharply diminished over the past year as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) has undergone dramatic changes. Once believed to include thousands of “foreign fighters,” it is now an overwhelmingly Iraqi organization whose aims are likely to remain focused on the struggle against the Shiite majority in Iraq, U.S. intelligence officials said…
AQI’s new membership and the allied insurgents care far more about what happens within Iraq than they do about bin Laden’s plans for an Islamic empire, government and outside experts said. That is likely to remain the case whether U.S. forces stay or leave, they added…
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Is it possible the Washington Post (and numerous other media outlets) lied to us in order to make Mr. Bush’s statements sound false?
Would they do that?
Previous articles:
AP: It’s Harder/Easier For Al Qaeda To Attack US
Anonymous Sources: Al-Qaeda Is As Strong As Ever
Key Judgments From The National Intelligence Estimate
This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Tuesday, July 17th, 2007.
Comment:
doingwhatican
July 17th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
“The terrorist network Al-Qaida will likely leverage its contacts and capabilities in Iraq to mount an attack on U.S. soil, according to a new National Intelligence Estimate on threats to the United States. ”
Well, damn, how much did the AP pay for this “intel”?
“The declassified key findings, to be released publicly on Tuesday, were obtained in advance by The Associated Press…”
The AP may as well write for the DNC. The point of their story is that Bush is either lying or incompetent, or both, neither of which are true. This is based on a leaked NIE report that has not even been finished and from which the AP is gaining highlights second-hand.
This is just sorry-ass journalism.
“National Intelligence Estimates are the most authoritative written judgments of the 16 spy agencies across the breadth of the U.S. government. These agencies reflect the consensus long-term thinking of top intelligence analysts.”
“National Intelligence Estimates are the most authoritative written judgments of the 16 spy agencies across the breadth of the U.S. government. These agencies reflect the consensus long-term thinking of top intelligence analysts.”
Do not underestimate the American People.. many can see and are waking up.
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Looming Disaster… Obama Approval Rating Slides to 45%
Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 5:23 AM
Jim Hoft
It’s not just Scott Rasmussen, today Quinnipiac reported that Barack Obama’s approval rating has slid to 45% among registered voters dead and alive.
Via HotAir:
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American voters are split 45 – 45 percent on whether Barack Obama’s first year in office is a success or failure and split 35 – 37 percent on whether the U.S. would be better off if John McCain had won the 2008 election, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released today. As he marks the first anniversary of his inauguration, President Obama’s approval has slipped slightly into an even 45 – 45 percent split for the first time. …
By a 47 – 40 percent margin, independent voters rate Obama’s first year in office as mainly a failure; 81 percent of Democrats say it’s a success and 75 percent of Republicans say it’s a failure. Men say failure 50 – 40 percent, while women say success 49 – 40 percent. White voters say failure 54 – 37 percent, while black voters say success 82 – 7 percent.
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Obama already had the lowest approval of any president at this point in their administration. Now this. It looks like the blind hopey-changers are in for a bumpy ride in the months ahead.
In related news, the White House said their policies strengthened America this past year.
How, by tripling the deficit?
Comments:
1) Bill Mitchell
And WHY is the MSM taking their thumb off the scales and actually reporting Obama’s true Approval Rating?
Couple possibilities:
1) When Congress passes Obamacare, they can overweight their samples again with Democrats and show a “fake” surge in support.
2) Same story with the SOTU address.
3) No one likes being bulls**tted and maybe even the MSM is tired of the pooh Obama is shoveling.
2) 6Kings
Wow, the education system is really failing as evidenced by the 45% that still approve of this disaster. Seriously?!!!
3) RedBeard
6Kings hits one out of the park.
If we assume that only 20% or so of voters are actual leftists, how do we account for the additional support for Obama? Mass insanity? Willful ignorance? Sheer stupidity?
The support can’t come from people who are not deeply committed to the leftist agenda of trashing this republic, unless they are impaired in some manner.
4) Jamest155
I can’t believe obamas approval ratings are even this high. At this time in President George W. Bush’s presidency, President Bush’s approval rating was at 92 percent.
After Tripling Deficit in 2009 Obama On Track to Nearly Quadruple Bush Deficit in 2010
Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 11:04 PM
Jim Hoft
Although we didn’t see this reported in the state-run media… China View News reported today that the The U.S. federal budget deficit totaled 91.85 billion U.S. dollars in December. The deficit was slightly less than the 92 billion dollars that analysts had expected. But the red ink of the first three months of fiscal year 2010 beginning from October 2009 is 16.8 percent higher than the same period of the fiscal year 2009 when it hit a record 1.42 trillion dollars.
Considering these numbers it is likely that after tripling the US national deficit from the previous year in 2009, Barack Obama is on track to nearly quadruple the national deficit from 2008 when George W. Bush left office.
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